From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Sep 9 9:16:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF0C37B400 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from directvinternet.com (dsl-65-185-140-165.telocity.com [65.185.140.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4264F43E75 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:16:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from Tolstoy.home.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by directvinternet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89GG1Gd009340; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:16:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from localhost (nwestfal@localhost) by Tolstoy.home.lan (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g89GG1Id009337; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:16:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Tolstoy.home.lan: nwestfal owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:16:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" X-X-Sender: nwestfal@Tolstoy.home.lan To: Terry Lambert Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? In-Reply-To: <3D7A35A5.1A849D24@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20020909090839.J9219-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > "Neal E. Westfall" wrote: > > > IMO, they had practical purpose. You can always trace taboos > > > back to community experiential knowledge. I rather think the > > > pork taboo was rooted in disease avoidance, since there are a > > > lot of diseases that cross species boundaries with pork, if it > > > is not prepared properly. Lacking sufficient foundation to > > > discover what "properly" was, the taboo was established (there > > > are alternate theories; that oneis merely the simplest). > > > > Here's mine: The people of Israel were set aside by God as His > > chosen people. As such they were to be distinguished from the > > gentiles through ceremonial practices, one of which included not > > eating pork. When the Messiah came, God expanded His promises > > to the whole world, there was no longer to be any distinction > > between jew and gentile, for all are one in Christ, thus to > > retain the ceremonial laws would be to not admit that Christ > > now joined the two peoples together in reconciliation with God. > > > > What do you think? 8-) > > I think it fails the simplicity test, and it fails the predictive > test. > > Your theory requires additional axioms that are not required by > the previous theory, Yes, but *your* theory requires that one set aside the law of non-contradiction. Self-creation is a logical impossibility. > and your theory failed to predict accurately > the newly created taboo against the eating of non-fully-cooked beef > in Britain and elsewhere as a result of the discovery of the prion > source of BSE (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, otherwise known > as "mad cow disease"), or the ability of the disease to cross > species boundaries into humans, and exhibit as nvCJD (new variant > Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease). It was never intended to predict such things, only the reason for the prohibition of certain taboos within the context of OT Israel at a particular point in redemptive history. Your attempt to give another reason is a subtle begging of the question and rationalization to support your rejection of God. Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message