From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 27 03:41:26 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31E311381DC for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 03:41:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 068947FEA8 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 03:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 79682 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2018 03:41:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=13740.5bfcbce5.k1811; bh=bnBTOAMBP+nlJGkhVV0F76RFVtEYgugwYzH/ZLa5nmg=; b=r1mBfqXpglSYHhGvacYCywlOcLdBd2w+/uF0Igs2UlxUomjKt6m99ts3/U6p1OeZsZxftmahtPjbnn5H5zqdJDTwUkB8cY5fp0Qg5fSLhZIWgpvEcIQ4+uxN2jvYBkLYYhTiEFf+ydyG3XZHqwuxHUlfsJDtvgDaVEhyT6U2iHd1KNIKhQddbAQ1ucDs42Ko01D51cCVgSzWjRMw82I3Jm58AQtseMiDNXMP12L2//WVOoJSc3U3y5cmAbfFxLnD Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.2/X.509/AEAD) via TCP6; 27 Nov 2018 03:41:25 -0000 Date: 26 Nov 2018 22:41:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Victor Sudakov" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, rwmaillists@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Invalid DKIM signatures in this list In-Reply-To: <20181127033118.GA86646@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20181126185830.18005da3@gumby.homeunix.com> <20181126232835.4593A2008E8EE1@ary.qy> <20181127023143.GD79319@admin.sibptus.ru> <20181127033118.GA86646@admin.sibptus.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (OSX 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 068947FEA8 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.52 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[iecc.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:1f07:1126::/64]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx.iecc.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[iecc.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[iecc.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.89)[-0.889,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.62)[ipnet: 2001:470::/32(-4.50), asn: 6939(-3.49), country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 03:41:26 -0000 > Do you mean nobody cares? RFC6377 is dated September 2011, for all these > years nobody has tried to do something about FreeBSD's MLM breaking > signatures? Hey, the freebsd lists don't even limit posts to subscribers, which is about the most basic list anti-spam technique there is. >> Indeed, but I wouldn't take everything it says too seriously. > > But a fix to the MLM should be pretty trivial too? Hahahahaha. The anti-DMARC hacks invented for various mailing lists range from bad to truly horrible. There's plenty of info about them if you look. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly