Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:44:40 -0500 From: Charles Swiger <cswiger@mac.com> To: Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: fquestions Message-ID: <7088318B-3141-44E6-9F50-CB51F6CAE501@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <20051214192109.GD41870@thought.org> References: <20051214171014.GB37495@thought.org> <BCAD87F3-844D-46F4-82B0-478518608D27@mac.com> <20051214192109.GD41870@thought.org>
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On Dec 14, 2005, at 2:21 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >> You forgot to tell us which VIA chipset or MB-- there are lots and >> lots of VIA-based motherboards around, with a wide variety of >> hardware. > > Here's the URL on the board. It looks okay, but then it was > written by salesmen:). I'm flying blind here. > > http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx? > DetailID=358&MenuID=22&LanID=2 The onboard graphics is "embedded UniChromeII 3D Graphics, 64M share memory", which I do not believe is supported well under X11, you're better off getting a real video card unless you're going to be working remotely or headless. The embedded AC97 audio controller probably will work, though, as should the onboard VT6103 NIC. >> I wouldn't get a Celeron + VIA combo; I'd rather use an Intel MB with >> an Intel CPU, and I'd much rather get a Pentium-3/-M CPU then a >> Celeron. Otherwise, go with an VIA socket-A motherboard and a >> Athlon- >> XP/Barton/Sempron CPU, those should be quite inexpensive and yet >> perform quite well. >> > > My hardware days date from the Vax 11/70, and it's hard to > keep track. But here's another question: What's wrong with > the Celeron? The "better" Intel would be another $100. The Celeron's have about half to 1/4th as much L2 cache as the better CPU. For some specific tasks, like pure routing, it won't matter, but for almost anything else a P3 is a much better performer. > Re the Athlon, yes, it is a bit less, but doesn't it run > hotter than the Intel? Half of my platforms are Celeron > and I push them hard, but if AMD is just as good, then that's > the way to go. It depends on the AMD model, the Semprons are going to run around 40W, whereas the older Althons and the Barton cores are in the mid-60W range. I've got a 80mm fan on my AMD3200+ Barton, but it runs cooler than a similar 2.4GHz P4 box. Most P4's want 70W or more, but on the other hand, the Celerons and P3's are around 35W. -- -Chuck
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