From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 00:05:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBCA16A420 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rob_27_preston@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from web25007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13EE113C491 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rob_27_preston@yahoo.co.uk) Received: (qmail 38816 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Sep 2007 23:39:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=YClRT/fnfPpeXeuscm8Ye5T/75veRz4kEKyM05S9YFjAB3jbndSnJVAG9xJ27KppBCmvLyQ1y1M7ISJ/4DqsaenTplAA8Z3Yhvunvxbm50j0kGD34Bq5Ig2myNQ5EUULnW6gxEiibLhn3emSdHjizbtZEnsU/x9HSr9nTimRQIQ=; X-YMail-OSG: yATrikIVM1lcnjU_ubtC5WKf1di9BW7AkVPkR17YcSMkYSac1Hb.E0qYwC3D0l2a2MWoZzDZBWAV5kNBXfsLTtuaQpZC.d.SFKF.PfRokNq4ksURja.ECeRPUPQ- Received: from [83.67.67.52] by web25007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:39:15 BST Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:39:15 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Davison To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <311478.36031.qm@web25007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: x11 drivers - conflicts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:05:57 -0000 I was this evening doing a portupgrade on some of my outdated packages one of which was x11-drivers I did a portupgrade -arR and got the blue config screen for the x11-drivers. I stupidly chose and intel driver which when i run the portupgrade ends with the following error "you cant choose both i810 and intel drivers as they are conflicting" Where do I find the config that I change to stop the build process including the intel driver. I've looked in the x11-driver makefile and cant see anything out of the ordinary. Or how do I make the build process bring the blue config screen up again so I can deselect the intel driver. Any help would be much appreciated. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 00:16:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A243416A418 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAE813C45D for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:16:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Sep 2007 20:16:40 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id JBE42901; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-26-179.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.26.179]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Sep 2007 20:16:38 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18138.245.251977.289206@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:16:53 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1d50aecb97dbfc0d53c65c6cc2185ed3@gmail.com> References: <1d50aecb97dbfc0d53c65c6cc2185ed3@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Backup the basics of the system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:16:41 -0000 Joshua Isom writes: > I'm about to downgrade from -CURRENT to 6-STABLE, and since I > can't seem do it in place without screwing around with a lot of > stuff, I might need to reinstall completely. But which > configuration files are the ones I need to backup the most? My gut reaction would be to copy (recursively) /etc. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 00:20:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5CD16A417 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: from web34602.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34602.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B47A13C458 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 93332 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Sep 2007 00:20:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=B0RZ5uB/Y+ekM9U4sysbTI1JMTPPEx8wFfTymjimZBZr/3SNhYlPzzEDLnnHTgmT73AehtLo4mQESG+5ww78fnXW45YG5YuqidNYype65/PHC5nHEvSRdg9v1Jde7I3hdrE7IJQqJRZ+SoOfxdL92Vzym8GZUG9UxBE77HNnF+s=; X-YMail-OSG: h3S68_cVM1mwBOEy88IBt5YGOzER1crBrqHIPgI9lQVwtezET_alQVodst.IDSVyLk_rUsi3aD7XZb9uJKwKWuK0bcP8gXYNgkitsTquhZOuOpY_9O99tLWVUWdC8ASwzTifzzGMKTnbefBtysVFz3cWuYdZVtYnmZa2em8P92WEMFuCOl0bOZQ- Received: from [67.101.218.14] by web34602.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:20:01 PDT Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:20:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe To: Peter Boosten In-Reply-To: <46D9D9F3.3090306@boosten.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <782178.92804.qm@web34602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questioins Subject: Re: how to change isc-dhcp3-server replies? (was: isc-dhcp3-server issues with windows 2000 client) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:20:02 -0000 I'd say thanks for the help, but telling someone that 'it works for me' is not helpful. I upgraded to 6.2p7 from 6.2p6 and this problem started happening, but only with dhcpd. In fact I can run the old dhcpd fine, but the new binary deos not run fine. The old binary does a dhcp reply from [dhcpd ip address] to 255.255.255.255. The new binary does a dhcp reply from [dhcpd ip address] to 192.168.0.255. Windows is not getting the reply from the new binary. This is not the correct behavior. In fact there is a bug in OLD 2.2 linux kernels that says that the kernel routing is messed up (see isc-dhcp3 web site docs). Joe Peter Boosten wrote: Joe wrote: > Hello, after running tcpdump for a while I discoverd what is going on with my dhcpd server and why some clients are not able to get an IP address from it, in particular windows clients. It turns out it is not just win2k but any windows. > > It seems that the dhcpd server is replying to the subnet and not the broadcast net. So the reply that should be sent to 255.255.255.255:68 is sent to 192.168.0.255:68. Then, because the client has no IP address or has defaulted it to a 169.x.x.x(MS defaults) it does not seem to be getting the reply and thus never gets an address assigned. I have no problems running dhcp3 with windows clients at all... As far as I can tell the broadcast address of a subnet *never* is 255.255.255.255. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 00:39:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD36E16A418 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xrayv19@yahoo.com) Received: from web58105.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web58105.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CD1213C46A for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xrayv19@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 74541 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Sep 2007 00:39:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=vGjts6D5jb0coTJNBmDH7LiBSuKde5bw64OwJ+0lSdnby1gxsVyjlufqGlfLgoiaBt487JUJ4zcKMNrCqxTH8SeNj3RMJ7Znddtc661BB3d+5FUrNJGiKbtm5+TAllhnf9dhONH92TiDnU2FAXgL54fY+FVumLn6FafSmjFfMzU=; X-YMail-OSG: dixu8e8VM1mriI.sAsxdMYouA.K4KbcrQwsLDAUOm1B2ijOptELuETj_mLm2nkdJu5yTZ7m2R5V3h0gAEzEUUNRgt_YVVU9_97Q- Received: from [131.191.82.223] by web58105.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:39:34 PDT Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:39:34 -0700 (PDT) From: L Goodwin To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20070901232009.GA52775@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <588773.74384.qm@web58105.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem mounting I-Stick2 USB flash drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:39:35 -0000 --- Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Sep 01), L Goodwin said: > > --- Dan Nelson wrote: > > > In the last episode (Aug 31), L Goodwin said: > > > > Under FreeBDS 6.2, the following command works > for a 256MBMemorex > > > > Mini TravelDrive, but not for a 256MB > Intelligent Stick > > > > (I-Stick): > > > > > > > > mount_msdosfs /dev/da3s1 /mnt > > > > > > > > It fails with "mount_msdosfs: /dev/da3s1: No > such file or > > > > directory". > > > > > > What does "ls -l /dev/da3*" print? Maybe the > filesystem is on a > > > different slice. Or, if there's no slices, try > mounting /dev/da3 > > > directly. > > > > Mounting /dev/da3 directly worked (thought I had > tried that last > > night, but must not have). Thanks! > > > > I don't understand why there is a difference > between the two flash > > drives (both are FAT). Is there a way to > accurately predict what the > > mount point should be on these? > > Not really. An external drive could have > filesystems on one or more > slices if there's an fdisk partition table, or if > it's unpartitioned > (like a floppy disk), there will be a single > filesystem on the raw disk > device itself. One thing you can do is load the > glabel module, which > will scan new devices and create device nodes based > on the filesystem's > label. Then you can just mount whatever label > appears in /dev/msdosfs/. Cool! Thanks! > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 01:13:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A5816A417 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: from web34607.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34607.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7C7A13C457 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:13:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 80206 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Sep 2007 01:13:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20070902011321.80204.qmail@web34607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: recipient list not shown: ; DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=OOkvOOUM3zSZRP8+4mWZAMexZAhA4Tb2wXLg43Xc+7etBw878acCsUySUtD7++w3k0S21IDz6Wfxzf9850qt+2uTfDVrwxbWP/rbNuzhZuH4YGjL2/J+rbYKrxVV/J4W0+Djbd5Y5AmapgR82cJfvnXvXgGjT/uspsfXw0yvUK0=; X-YMail-OSG: HXsIAOkVM1nPvFD9c.cNGgMKoGGzpuSUQ2V1eSnbsGi0oRj9XaXDhQrfOwxX62mkx66hQmsCHdiOhZCCSvteTf37FrOzKqbWRjSJVVO6EnBvlLQm.WwHvw3JZpgHhzeZGqYFn22uQ9lLSxyqZayrjsL6wT3vlu7xyDXpDRIH2WL1MueBQPgDsJxDYeo_K7YG0oUb5EeKL6Lt7L9V Received: from [67.101.218.14] by web34607.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 18:13:21 PDT Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:13:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 01:48:54 +0000 Subject: Re: how to change isc-dhcp3-server replies? (was: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 01:13:52 -0000 isc-dhcp3-server issues with windows 2000 client) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070902000628.BD4AC16A4D5@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1649509927-1188695601=:80192" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <513147.80192.qm@web34607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1649509927-1188695601=:80192 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ok, no so true. I am watching tcpdump output from the two binaries. The old binary sends its reply to 255.255.255.255, while the new one sends its reply to 192.168.0.15. Same config file and I tried the always-broadcast flag, and it only sets the bit for the client, but the server still broadcasts its reply to the client on the subnet mask. Old client reply (ml.. is server af is client): 1188694380.961642 ml:ml:ml:ml:ml:ml > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 342: (tos 0x10, ttl 16, id 0, offset 0, flags [none], proto: UDP (17), length: 328) 192.168.0.15.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: BOOTP/DHCP, Reply, length: 300, xid:0x77915dc3, flags: [Broadcast] (0x8000) Your IP: 192.168.0.13 Client Ethernet Address: af:af:af:af:af:af [|bootp] new client does not do this and clients do not get their ip address. I read somewhere that linux had a problem doing this in 2.2 kernels and it has something to do with the routing table in linux. Not sure what is going on here, but the routing table looks fine. Joe freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > > It seems that the dhcpd server is replying to the subnet and not the > > broadcast net. So the reply that should be sent to 255.255.255.255:68 is > > sent to 192.168.0.255:68. Then, because the client has no IP address or > > has defaulted it to a 169.x.x.x(MS defaults) it does not seem to be > > getting the reply and thus never gets an address assigned. > It is for DHCPDISCOVER, since there is no subnet yet: # dhclient -d fxp0 DHCPDISCOVER on fxp0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 As for the option you're looking for, man dhcpd.conf showed me this: always-broadcast flag; --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. --0-1649509927-1188695601=:80192 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ok, no so true.  I am watching tcpdump output from the two binaries. The old binary sends its reply to 255.255.255.255, while the new one sends its reply to 192.168.0.15.  Same config file and I tried the always-broadcast flag, and it only sets the bit for the client, but the server still broadcasts its reply to the client on the subnet mask. 

Old client reply (ml.. is server af is client): 

1188694380.961642 ml:ml:ml:ml:ml:ml > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 342: (tos 0x10, ttl  16, id 0, offset 0, flags [none], proto: UDP (17), length: 328) 192.168.0.15.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: BOOTP/DHCP, Reply, length: 300, xid:0x77915dc3, flags: [Broadcast] (0x8000)
          Your IP: 192.168.0.13
          Client Ethernet Address: af:af:af:af:af:af [|bootp]

new client does not do this and clients do not get their ip address. I read somewhere that linux had a problem doing this in 2.2 kernels and it has something to do with the routing table in linux.  Not sure what is going on here, but the routing table looks fine. 

Joe

freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote:
> > It seems that the dhcpd server is replying to the subnet and not the
> > broadcast net. So the reply that should be sent to 255.255.255.255:68 is
> > sent to 192.168.0.255:68. Then, because the client has no IP address or
> > has defaulted it to a 169.x.x.x(MS defaults) it does not seem to be
> > getting the reply and thus never gets an address assigned.
>
It is for DHCPDISCOVER, since there is no subnet yet:
# dhclient -d fxp0
DHCPDISCOVER on fxp0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4

As for the option you're looking for, man dhcpd.conf showed me this:
always-broadcast flag;

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Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. --0-1649509927-1188695601=:80192-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 02:05:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B479116A418 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (ns.umpquanet.com [204.119.0.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFE013C45A for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l821Ok1I017186 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l821OkBt017185 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:24:46 -0700 From: James Long To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070902012446.GA17048@ns.umpquanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: Recent update to RELENG_6 creates lots of calcru warnings X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:05:01 -0000 I'm running FreeBSD RELENG_6 on a Compaq DL380 G2 dual PIII-1.4GHz with an SMP kernel. dmesg below. Prior to about August 12, the system had been quite stable. Since that time, I am finding lots of calcru warnings, which often cause system services to fail when they see unorthodox time shifts. Section 5.19 of the handbook appears not to be current any longer, suggesting setting kern.timecounter.method=1. kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254 also does not improve things. Other suggestions? Thanks, Jim Sep 1 18:00:30 ns sudo: james : TTY=ttyp0 ; PWD=/usr/local/www/sites/com.umpquanet/support ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/sysctl -w kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254 Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1343309 usec to 1178478 usec for pid 3663 (hpasmd) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1274607 usec for pid 3660 (hpasmd) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 6470361 usec to 5811413 usec for pid 995 (postgres) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1099076 usec for pid 36 (pagedaemon) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -5928105 usec for pid 35 (fdc0) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1526937 usec for pid 32 (acpi_cooling0) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 8015143 usec to 1437770 usec for pid 15 (yarrow) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -12360933 usec for pid 2 (g_event) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -2106022786 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 295074296 usec to 292484248 usec for pid 1 (init) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1343309 usec to 1178478 usec for pid 3663 (hpasmd) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1274607 usec for pid 3660 (hpasmd) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 6470361 usec to 5811413 usec for pid 995 (postgres) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1099076 usec for pid 36 (pagedaemon) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -5928105 usec for pid 35 (fdc0) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1526937 usec for pid 32 (acpi_cooling0) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 8015143 usec to 1437770 usec for pid 15 (yarrow) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -12360933 usec for pid 2 (g_event) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -2106022734 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 295074296 usec to 292484248 usec for pid 1 (init) dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. 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FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 27 17:24:37 PDT 2007 root@ns.umpquanet.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP-UMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU family 1400MHz (1390.66-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6b1 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 1073725440 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1037357056 (989 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 3 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 0 MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic1 irqs 16-31 on motherboard ioapic0 irqs 0-15 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x240-0x243 on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 pcib0: on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 ciss0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xf5ec0000-0xf5efffff,0xf3ef0000-0xf3ef3fff irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 ciss0: [GIANT-LOCKED] fxp0: port 0x2400-0x243f mem 0xf5eb0000-0xf5eb0fff,0xf5d00000-0xf5dfffff irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci0 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:02:a5:ad:82:d5 fxp1: port 0x2440-0x247f mem 0xf5cf0000-0xf5cf0fff,0xf5b00000-0xf5bfffff irq 20 at device 4.0 on pci0 miibus1: on fxp1 inphy1: on miibus1 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: Ethernet address: 00:02:a5:ad:82:d4 pci0: at device 6.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x2c00-0x2c0f at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xf3fd0000-0xf3fd0fff irq 22 at device 15.2 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib1: on acpi0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 3.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 pci2: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 3.1 (no driver attached) pcib3: on acpi0 pci7: on pcib3 pci7: at device 7.0 (no driver attached) acpi_tz0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sio0: port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A fdc0: port 0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xcc000-0xcd7ff,0xee000-0xeffff on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata0-master PIO4 sa0 at ciss0 bus 32 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 135.168MB/s transfers da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 135.168MB/s transfers da0: 34727MB (71122560 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 8716C) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a calcru: negative runtime of -1298258 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) calcru: negative runtime of -1298243 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) calcru: negative runtime of -1298218 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) calcru: negative runtime of -1298218 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) calcru: negative runtime of -1298201 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) calcru: negative runtime of -1298201 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) calcru: negative runtime of -1298201 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) calcru: negative runtime of -1298201 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) calcru: negative runtime of -1297853 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) calcru: negative runtime of -1297853 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) ... etc. calcru: negative runtime of -1273295 usec for pid 3660 (hpasmd) calcru: runtime went backwards from 6470361 usec to 5829070 usec for pid 995 (postgres) calcru: negative runtime of -1098784 usec for pid 36 (pagedaemon) calcru: negative runtime of -5926871 usec for pid 35 (fdc0) calcru: negative runtime of -1526724 usec for pid 32 (acpi_cooling0) calcru: runtime went backwards from 8015143 usec to 1450174 usec for pid 15 (yarrow) calcru: negative runtime of -12349712 usec for pid 2 (g_event) calcru: negative runtime of -2105724281 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) calcru: runtime went backwards from 295074296 usec to 292484248 usec for pid 1 (init) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 03:14:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB4416A419 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBCE13C45A for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so639113rvb for ; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:14:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=X5tu/JeY3IRYyP03yMQ0aFKyyAQ+nnedI+xxi/ktfCXHxA1YMI2VkipPUPS0I48lEjRrjS5JUzigAa/Q20JabcWH5O5yoCKmlZYia4c1luWtekUIK8PmBPvGAUIn15WndOJXizW5Wj7laGegBbn7DndPCBOvqdKX+S+/6yT0TVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=QiILyybkc7HYjHn9/w7O1lke7Ubw2GgCvGeisR2xNa2SjRzCL3K/pjmBhrMl/rwPACTBb25HAVSClsAfRtOVYmLlgk8zlAhhvdybbloF5WCkbGE/Ihq/8NAcR2NHyUGqBA5F4NReFqw1Cablq/2wjOPyqYR0nDyY4dgGQbWRLHA= Received: by 10.141.203.12 with SMTP id f12mr1396623rvq.1188702846459; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.170.12 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64c038660709012014s2ce2751bl3c2618538411d220@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:14:05 -0600 From: Modulok To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: root on gmirror and disk failure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 03:14:07 -0000 BACKGROUND I'm experimenting with gmirror on the root partition on a test system running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. I have two physical disks on the same IDE header (master and slave). This was setup following the tutorial in the handbook. The system boots and mounts root from /dev/mirror/gm0s1a as expected. The reported status of the mirror was active, complete, up and running with both disks synced. Everything is as it should be. PROBLEM When I simulate a disk failure on the slave drive (the first consumer in the mirror), by disconnecting the power input and booting the system, the following occurs: 1. The BIOS complains of a disk error, but otherwise continues to boot. 2. The master boot record is found and boot is executed. 3. boot complains, letting me know the default disk it boots from is gone and prompts for manual specification. This is fine and I specify the alternate disk to boot from. 4. loader(8) is found and presents its menu, it starts the automatic boot sequence with the default kernel. 5. It successfully finds the kernel and executes it. 6. The kernel output "Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a", fails and I am prompted for the location of a root partition. I digress just a moment here as the system appears to hang, as keyboard input is not detected and at this point on the boot phase I have no other metric from which to judge whether it is actually hanged or not. The keyboard was detected prior to this failure, as reported in the kernel's output and the keyboard is known to work on this system. So that's weird, but it even if I could type in something, it wouldn't matter because it's looking in the correct location for root, it's just that location doesn't exist...moving right along. The provider, /dev/mirror/gm0, is not being created. This is significant for obvious reasons: no mirror means no provider which means no root. The module /boot/kernel/geom_mirror.ko is loaded, as I have manually loaded it via the loader(8) prompt and attempted the simulated failure again with identical results. It's the provider that isn't being created, for whatever reason. Suggestions? (Other than purchasing a hardware RAID card). -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 03:17:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D4416A417 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:17:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B1413C465 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so1248728fka for ; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:17:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=at2cq3ysSHquw0IK8qB8+VBCAcw6cfTsODY3zd2tdcxzP7zI4odJ62rOVYIMx7xvEpgUVkeiJ0SBOYfvIpi0Bv3e8lX9Z3k0p5ekwIRrlaBtSCuRQLGuC2/I9o7CXQCxfC8jILIjMXzybcJsNn92G7fJ3/oed+6hvCyBMw7LmtQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Gikr2XKMCOtBfBxorzny0VmZfMYtD+glF/jRildVKNnjrK7urn64uO72k3/jn7b8wPS4vVzRk9YYSww4pC4BF5blJOYpU4tAQuyBX6D+kDn0h9reg/QbFlX/cWPaPddlNECI+mpeoI+vpsV5AUD5Qs2jRMq9oc7lps7L+IxBmhQ= Received: by 10.82.177.3 with SMTP id z3mr351806bue.1188703028654; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.191.14 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:17:08 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: problems with a rc.d script I'm creating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 03:17:21 -0000 I'm trying to create an rc.d script to start akpop3d (it doesn't seem to come with one). According to the documentation on run_rc_command in /etc/rc.subr, I thought this should work. However I get no response when I run '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/akpop3d start', and ps -A doesn't show an akpop3d process. When I run it manually (akpop3d -d -s -L .akpop3d), it starts just fine. Could anyone suggest what I am missing here? Thanks, -Jim Stapleton The script: #!/bin/sh # # $FreeBSD: N/A # # PROVIDE: akpop3d # REQUIRE: DAEMON # # Add the following line to /etc/rc.conf to enable akpop3d: # # akpop3d_enable="YES" # akpop3d_enable=${akpop3d_enable-"NO"} akpop3d_pidfile=${akpop3d_pidfile-"/var/run/akpop3d.pid"} akpop3d_flags=${akpop3d_flags-"-d -s -L .akpop3d"} akpop3d_conffile=${akpop3d_conffile-""} akpop3d_flush_cache=${akpop3d_flush_cache-"NO"} . /etc/rc.subr if [ ! -z $(check_pidfile $akpop3d_pidfile akpop3d) ] then else fi name=akpop3d rcvar=`set_rcvar` command=/usr/local/bin/${name} pidfile=${akpop3d_pidfile} #start_precmd=akpop3d_precmd load_rc_config ${name} run_rc_command "$1" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 04:10:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FD016A418 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E243F13C428 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:10:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF6550895 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:10:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rZw5gUyckPUM for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BB1FA5087F; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:10:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070902041002.BB1FA5087F@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:10:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2007-08-12 - 2007-09-01 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:10:45 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 04:18:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F077016A420 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:18:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153A313C4E5 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id OAA17023; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:00:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:00:05 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <20070902000629.3FE7016A4C1@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:18:19 -0000 On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:34:41 +0200 Kris Kennaway wrote: > Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >>> Kris Kennaway wrote: > >>>> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >>>>> I use a memory file system for some tmp files and last night I saw > >>>>> this, followed by a reboot. Bad memory? 6-STABLE from April.. > >>>>> > >>>>> foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259244032, > >>>>> length=131072)]error = 28 > >>>>> foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259375104, > >>>>> length=131072)]error = 28 > >>>>> [ten more lines...] > >>>>> [reboot] > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> #define ENOSPC 28 /* No space left on device */ > >>>> > >>>> You are probably (incorrectly) using a malloc backed disk. Use swap > >>>> backing and you won't panic when memory is low. > >>> > >>> Yes, sounds likely, thanks. One more question then, where is the md > >>> information stored through a reboot? I did not edit rc.conf or fstab > >>> or kernel config but still /dev/md0 came back up. Hmmm. > >> > >> It's not, unless something is explicitly creating it each time you > >> boot. Perhaps you are using a rc.conf setting that creates a md /tmp. > > > > Indeed, here it was: > > > > amavisd_enable="YES" > > amavisd_ram="512m" > > > > and the line in rc.d/amavisd > > mdmfs -M -s ${amavisd_ram} -w vscan:vscan md /var/amavis/tmp || true > > for some reason creates a malloc based mfs > > > > Perhaps I should check this with the maintainer... > > > > > > Yes, malloc backing for md should be used in almost no situations. Am I right in thinking such situations would then be limited to diskless / flashdisk / embedded systems having no swap? Seems obvious, but .. Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 04:30:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D9216A418 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B578413C45A for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l824UfVu027709 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:30:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:30:41 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709012330.41331.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: a quick jails question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:30:54 -0000 will a NFS server run in a jail? im guessing no, that it falls into the "funny services" category (like snmp) that wont run right in a jail. thanks, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 07:43:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F2C16A419 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B56F13C46A for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l827gsFi024380; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:42:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l827grtk024377; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:42:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:42:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jonathan Horne In-Reply-To: <200709012330.41331.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Message-ID: <20070902094243.Q24376@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200709012330.41331.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a quick jails question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 07:43:15 -0000 > will a NFS server run in a jail? > > im guessing no, that it falls into the "funny services" category (like snmp) > that wont run right in a jail. look in ports for user space nfsd > > thanks, > -- > Jonathan Horne > http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org > freebsd@dfwlp.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 08:05:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0916716A417 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C8113C45A for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8285KxI067133; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:05:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1188720322; bh=ni57yVSgnR1+S9 ZJTbuGywlzxZIJa7e4LlS5a0aBl+A=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Organization: User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc: Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version: References:To; b=OdcqvJ1ftHOKFO+pCD9LEa6MwwDP4H8WfvHPIhpZ6w1JLsJyp xXubVy337OalCiG+2hMpjVtMm4ZdiPix9zrL4vRIl9hQ/xPlmddmYEpB3eiGWkxs8ZG 8ra5FfMrUzuIYKvMnfjtZacYUyn7QgALC1WJduWDVqC1JfqWwgxR3Gs= Message-ID: <46DA6EC0.7050705@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:05:20 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070803) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Modulok References: <64c038660709012014s2ce2751bl3c2618538411d220@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660709012014s2ce2751bl3c2618538411d220@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:05:22 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/4129/Sun Sep 2 08:41:17 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root on gmirror and disk failure... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 08:05:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Modulok wrote: > The provider, /dev/mirror/gm0, is not being created. This is > significant for obvious reasons: no mirror means no provider which > means no root. The module /boot/kernel/geom_mirror.ko is loaded, as I > have manually loaded it via the loader(8) prompt and attempted the > simulated failure again with identical results. It's the provider that > isn't being created, for whatever reason. > > Suggestions? (Other than purchasing a hardware RAID card). I've seen these symptoms before. It appears to be a "feature" of certain Motherboards. If you're lucky there will be some BIOS options you can toggle to make it behave better -- usually to do will telling the motherboard *not* to do any sort of RAID stuff itself. Otherwise, look for BIOS updates, or switch to a different Motherboard. Systems supplied with hot swap drives (meaning SATA rather than IDE) tend to work better. Or install a hardware RAID controller. I've also a feeling that there's a behavioural difference between 'only one drive present' and 'one working drive and a blank disk' but haven't really tested that theory out, as we solved the original problem by other means. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG2m6/8Mjk52CukIwRCM/SAJ9paSYYdKjY4USerNYDCSKKPtjHUACfRNID nDHwMgpGUrWa5q2h2y+rASw= =9AW5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 08:09:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E61416A50D for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mchauber@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F98513C45A for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mchauber@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Sep 2007 06:22:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [192.168.1.102]) [204.116.241.146] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 02 Sep 2007 08:22:29 +0200 X-Authenticated: #15034054 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+VybcfiJaV5SFBQ0T/OJi9nOPZ9IpyIhF5dEgDfO EtmqCcIEC3VCzv From: Michael Hauber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:22:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 X-Copyright-Notice: 2007 Michael C. Hauber X-Copyright-Info: This transmission is copyrighted and may not be stored, printed, forwarded, or distributed by any means without the author's hand-written consent. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5810379.5qpkH8Nznp"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mchauber@gmx.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 08:09:47 -0000 --nextPart5810379.5qpkH8Nznp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hey, all... I've been a user of FreeBSD and OpenBSD for quite a while now. Unfortunatl= y,=20 I haven't had much time to tinker lately, and that's unlikely to change in= =20 the near future. Sadly, I need to get an OS that my wife would be more=20 comfortable using and that wouldn't be as time-comsuming to make it more=20 comfortable for her. =20 I downloaded the uberyl live CD and found that ubuntu seems to pick up on=20 everything I have on the laptop (as well as all the attachments), so I'm=20 downloading it now. Because I've put so much time into getting this FreeBSD install where it is= =20 now (and because I favor the BSDs), I'm still a bit hesitant... Has anyone= =20 here had much experience with ubunu as a desktop? Negatives/positives? Kind of OT, I guess... I'd just rather hear it from someone in this group= =20 rather than the inevitable, "Oh yeah. You won't be sorry." from the ubuntu= =20 folk (salespitches =3D=3D fingernails on a chalkboard :) ). =20 Thanks, Mike PS. Yes, I've played with PC-BSD. Unfortunately, that's still more work t= han=20 I have time for. --nextPart5810379.5qpkH8Nznp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBG2laQ+uHcSBTNvT0RAulCAJ9oNQ3bQDl+vxvqmFzsQsBIJwqehgCgjqCk 48Hj4m3VZv6o/Ob3ZweAd6g= =hBsX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5810379.5qpkH8Nznp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 10:22:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC6B16A417 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:22:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E726513C459 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329711CC38 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:21:56 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:21:53 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709021221.54268.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: problems with a rc.d script I'm creating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:22:32 -0000 On Sunday 02 September 2007 05:17:08 Jim Stapleton wrote: > I'm trying to create an rc.d script to start akpop3d (it doesn't seem > to come with one). > > According to the documentation on run_rc_command in /etc/rc.subr, I > thought this should work. However I get no response when I run > '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/akpop3d start', and ps -A doesn't show an akpop3d > process. When I run it manually (akpop3d -d -s -L .akpop3d), it starts > just fine. > > Could anyone suggest what I am missing here? > > Thanks, > -Jim Stapleton > > The script: > > #!/bin/sh > # > # $FreeBSD: N/A > # > # PROVIDE: akpop3d > # REQUIRE: DAEMON > # > # Add the following line to /etc/rc.conf to enable akpop3d: > # > # akpop3d_enable="YES" > # > > > akpop3d_enable=${akpop3d_enable-"NO"} > akpop3d_pidfile=${akpop3d_pidfile-"/var/run/akpop3d.pid"} > akpop3d_flags=${akpop3d_flags-"-d -s -L .akpop3d"} > akpop3d_conffile=${akpop3d_conffile-""} > akpop3d_flush_cache=${akpop3d_flush_cache-"NO"} > > . /etc/rc.subr > > > if [ ! -z $(check_pidfile $akpop3d_pidfile akpop3d) ] > then > > else > > fi > > name=akpop3d > rcvar=`set_rcvar` > > command=/usr/local/bin/${name} > pidfile=${akpop3d_pidfile} > #start_precmd=akpop3d_precmd > > load_rc_config ${name} > > > > run_rc_command "$1" I haven't figured out the proper way myself, but the problem is that the defaults you set at top, override the rc.conf variables, because they don't exist yet. What I do is move load_rc_config before setting defaults. General order becomes: name=foo rcvar=`set_rcvar` load_rc_config ${name} foo_default=${foo_default:-"default value"} run_rc_command "$1" Seems to work, maybe I'll figure out the proper way once I finish reading: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/rc-scripting/index.html -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 10:52:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13B216A41A for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE6813C46C for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136371CC38 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:52:16 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:52:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20070902011321.80204.qmail@web34607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20070902011321.80204.qmail@web34607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709021252.14680.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: how to change isc-dhcp3-server replies? (was: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:52:49 -0000 On Sunday 02 September 2007 03:13:21 Joe wrote: Gosh, I suddenly remember why I dropped yahoo webmail.... > Ok, no so true. I am watching tcpdump output from the two binaries. The > old binary sends its reply to 255.255.255.255, while the new one sends its > reply to 192.168.0.15. Same config file and I tried the always-broadcast > flag, and it only sets the bit for the client, but the server still > broadcasts its reply to the client on the subnet mask. > > Old client reply (ml.. is server af is client): > > 1188694380.961642 ml:ml:ml:ml:ml:ml > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype IPv4 > (0x0800), length 342: (tos 0x10, ttl 16, id 0, offset 0, flags [none], > proto: UDP (17), length: 328) 192.168.0.15.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: > BOOTP/DHCP, Reply, length: 300, xid:0x77915dc3, flags: [Broadcast] (0x8000) > Your IP: 192.168.0.13 > Client Ethernet Address: af:af:af:af:af:af [|bootp] > > new client does not do this and clients do not get their ip address. I read > somewhere that linux had a problem doing this in 2.2 kernels and it has > something to do with the routing table in linux. Not sure what is going on > here, but the routing table looks fine. So what does the tcpdump exchange look like with the new binary and the always-broadcast flag? And we're talking server binaries, right? -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 10:53:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D9B16A419 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takhoos@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s36.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s36.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041B413C458 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takhoos@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY124-W5 ([207.46.11.168]) by bay0-omc1-s36.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:40:00 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [66.166.97.35] From: To: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 06:40:00 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200709021221.54268.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> <200709021221.54268.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2007 10:40:00.0865 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D2DFD10:01C7ED4D] Subject: FreeBSD time servers and Windows clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:53:24 -0000 Hi all, I have one FreeBSD NTP server which syncs all my server clocks. Gettin= g the NTP server running was a piece of cake following the instructions in = the online handbook. Recently I was asked to sync a bunch of windows machi= nes (10 of them) to my NTP server. Now I'm not a windows person, so I ask= ed one of the windows people to figure out his side since my side was up an= d running. He wrote this little .bat file to run on the windows boxes to = be sync'd. Its pretty straight forward....just save it as a .bat file (ti= me.bat) and run it from your XP box. Make sure to enter your NTP IP addre= ss where the x's are below. It seems to work fine for us. Your mileag= e may vary. There may be better/easier ways of doing this, but this is wha= t works ok for us.... =20 Here's the .bat file....use it at your own risk.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------ @echo Updating Time Service.... @echo. @echo. @echo off w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx,0x8 /syncfromflags:manual w32tm /config /update @echo Restarting Time Service=20 @echo. @echo. net stop w32time net start w32time pause cls @echo Verify your Time Server's IP Address and SNTP Flag of "0x8" @echo. net time /querysntp @echo. @echo Exiting configuration=20 pause ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------- -- Joe _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 11:00:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857F816A419 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5BB13C469 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE061CC38 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:00:14 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:00:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <311478.36031.qm@web25007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <311478.36031.qm@web25007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709021300.12980.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: x11 drivers - conflicts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:00:30 -0000 On Sunday 02 September 2007 01:39:15 Robert Davison wrote: > Or how do I make the build process bring the blue config screen up again > so I can deselect the intel driver. cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers make rmconfig and take it from there. Or you could edit /var/db/ports/xorg-drivers/options. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 11:05:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1321416A421 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:05:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79C713C48D for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:05:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (c-71-60-127-199.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.127.199]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA0CEBC78; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:05:14 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Message-Id: <20070902070514.0294b074.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> <200709021221.54268.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD time servers and Windows clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:05:30 -0000 wrote: > > > Hi all, > I have one FreeBSD NTP server which syncs all my server clocks. Getting the NTP server running was a piece of cake following the instructions in the online handbook. Recently I was asked to sync a bunch of windows machines (10 of them) to my NTP server. Now I'm not a windows person, so I asked one of the windows people to figure out his side since my side was up and running. He wrote this little .bat file to run on the windows boxes to be sync'd. Its pretty straight forward....just save it as a .bat file (time.bat) and run it from your XP box. Make sure to enter your NTP IP address where the x's are below. It seems to work fine for us. Your mileage may vary. There may be better/easier ways of doing this, but this is what works ok for us.... This sounds like a bad idea to me. I seem to remember there's a registry setting where you can specify explicit NTP servers for Windows. Any reason why he went this route? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 11:12:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D506916A420 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6184813C45B for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-306718.home.otenet.gr [85.73.245.188]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l82BCcXv021286; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:12:39 +0300 Message-ID: <46DA9AA5.8030904@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:12:37 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (X11/20070719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mchauber@gmx.net References: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:12:43 -0000 Michael Hauber wrote: > Hey, all... > > I've been a user of FreeBSD and OpenBSD for quite a while now. Unfortunatly, > I haven't had much time to tinker lately, and that's unlikely to change in > the near future. Sadly, I need to get an OS that my wife would be more > comfortable using and that wouldn't be as time-comsuming to make it more > comfortable for her. > > I downloaded the uberyl live CD and found that ubuntu seems to pick up on > everything I have on the laptop (as well as all the attachments), so I'm > downloading it now. > > Because I've put so much time into getting this FreeBSD install where it is > now (and because I favor the BSDs), I'm still a bit hesitant... Has anyone > here had much experience with ubunu as a desktop? Negatives/positives? > > Kind of OT, I guess... I'd just rather hear it from someone in this group > rather than the inevitable, "Oh yeah. You won't be sorry." from the ubuntu > folk (salespitches == fingernails on a chalkboard :) ). > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > PS. Yes, I've played with PC-BSD. Unfortunately, that's still more work than > I have time for. > I am working (and tinkering as you put it) with many kinds of systems: Fedora / Ubuntu as desktops, Debian as servers, FreeBSD both desktops and servers, Windows 2003 servers, XP desktops, even Vista :) To put it simply, every system has its strong points, ups and downs. For example, Windows has drivers for everything - many are crap, but they still exist - and a few applications you just can't replace with anything else. Ubuntu, the one you are considering, is based on Debian, which I consider excellent, especially for servers. But if you are coming from a FreeBSD background, Ubuntu will seem rather "restrictive" and "easy". It is an easy desktop for *NIX beginners, and it is now marketed as the Linux you will never have to touch the command line. As I recall, the default install will not even setup gcc, although the package (build-essential) is on CD. There are obviously a lot of helper apps, like automatic installation of codecs etc. but it is still Linux. If you are a power user you will need to tinker it, and there will be things missing you will need to install. Example: First time I tried to mount some NFS shares, they were taking ages. I found out it was missing the nfs-common package. Maybe a beginner does not care about it, but I consider this basic functionality and expect it to be there (or that I will be informed it is not, beforehand). I also need the compiler, kernel headers and stuff to compile kernel modules. Ubuntu seems to have a lot of ready made things, good for beginners but quite limiting for me, I have to actually rip things out to install my stuff (e.g. disable their versions of some restricted drivers to install mine). That being said, it is making an alternate, non-Windows desktop accessible to a lot of people, which I consider a good thing. Though I suggest Ubuntu to enthusiastic Linux beginners, I find it difficult to give an argument for anyone with an average FreeBSD knowledge. At home I mostly use Fedora as a Linux desktop. The part of your post I don't really understand, is what is really bothering you with your FreeBSD install. Are you missing programs / features you just can't live without? Is it something to do with the ports / packages? Installing, customizing and becoming familiar with your FreeBSD system does take some time, but this is followed by a very long effortless stable operation. Assuming a typical installation where users' needs don't constantly change, you can easily maintain a FreeBSD install with minimum hassle. And how is Ubuntu going to be any easier for your wife? Assuming you are administering the machine, a FreeBSD with a Gnome desktop will be more or less the same from the user standpoint to Ubuntu (or any other distro) with Gnome. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 11:12:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28CC16A417 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from mail.sucked-in.com (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C588A13C46B for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from localhost (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753871CCB7; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:14:32 +1000 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sucked-in.com Received: from mail.sucked-in.com ([64.251.22.156]) by localhost (mail.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2yrxv2qeVMbu; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:14:32 +1000 (EST) Received: from TerryPC (220-253-148-94.VIC.netspace.net.au [220.253.148.94]) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB9B1CC30; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:14:30 +1000 (EST) From: "Terry Sposato" To: , References: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> <200709021221.54268.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:12:44 +1000 Message-ID: <001901c7ed52$35a363b0$a0ea2b10$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcftT9EeycCON1LFS2OiN8O+onJu5wAAg0jw Content-language: en-au Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD time servers and Windows clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:12:45 -0000 Hi Joe, It is quite simple to do on all variants of Windows really, you can use group policy mainly, XP, Vista etc. Have an option of specifying a time server by using the time / date settings when you are logged in as Administrator. The .bat file you posted also does the same thing via the cmd line. Regards, Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of takhoos@hotmail.com Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2007 8:40 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD time servers and Windows clients Hi all, I have one FreeBSD NTP server which syncs all my server clocks. Getting the NTP server running was a piece of cake following the instructions in the online handbook. Recently I was asked to sync a bunch of windows machines (10 of them) to my NTP server. Now I'm not a windows person, so I asked one of the windows people to figure out his side since my side was up and running. He wrote this little .bat file to run on the windows boxes to be sync'd. Its pretty straight forward....just save it as a .bat file (time.bat) and run it from your XP box. Make sure to enter your NTP IP address where the x's are below. It seems to work fine for us. Your mileage may vary. There may be better/easier ways of doing this, but this is what works ok for us.... Here's the .bat file....use it at your own risk.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------- @echo Updating Time Service.... @echo. @echo. @echo off w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx,0x8 /syncfromflags:manual w32tm /config /update @echo Restarting Time Service @echo. @echo. net stop w32time net start w32time pause cls @echo Verify your Time Server's IP Address and SNTP Flag of "0x8" @echo. net time /querysntp @echo. @echo Exiting configuration pause ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- -- Joe _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx_________________________________________ ______ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 11:13:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7812F16A41A for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE01213C46E; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <46DA9AC9.9090804@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:13:13 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:13:15 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:34:41 +0200 Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > >>> Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >>>> Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > >>>>> I use a memory file system for some tmp files and last night I saw > > >>>>> this, followed by a reboot. Bad memory? 6-STABLE from April.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259244032, > > >>>>> length=131072)]error = 28 > > >>>>> foo-bar kernel: g_vfs_done():md0[WRITE(offset=259375104, > > >>>>> length=131072)]error = 28 > > >>>>> [ten more lines...] > > >>>>> [reboot] > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks, > > >>>> > > >>>> #define ENOSPC 28 /* No space left on device */ > > >>>> > > >>>> You are probably (incorrectly) using a malloc backed disk. Use swap > > >>>> backing and you won't panic when memory is low. > > >>> > > >>> Yes, sounds likely, thanks. One more question then, where is the md > > >>> information stored through a reboot? I did not edit rc.conf or fstab > > >>> or kernel config but still /dev/md0 came back up. Hmmm. > > >> > > >> It's not, unless something is explicitly creating it each time you > > >> boot. Perhaps you are using a rc.conf setting that creates a md /tmp. > > > > > > Indeed, here it was: > > > > > > amavisd_enable="YES" > > > amavisd_ram="512m" > > > > > > and the line in rc.d/amavisd > > > mdmfs -M -s ${amavisd_ram} -w vscan:vscan md /var/amavis/tmp || true > > > for some reason creates a malloc based mfs > > > > > > Perhaps I should check this with the maintainer... > > > > > > > > > > Yes, malloc backing for md should be used in almost no situations. > > Am I right in thinking such situations would then be limited to diskless > / flashdisk / embedded systems having no swap? Seems obvious, but .. Sort of. Swap backing will still work when you have no swap, and it's still faster than malloc backing. The problem is that I think backing store reservation ("-o reserve") doesn't work unless you have actual swap to back everything, whereas with malloc backing it reserves in memory. This means that it is easy to overcommit memory and the system will probably panic when it suddenly finds no free memory for the md (as in the original email). Ideally if no swap was configured, swap backing would also reserve the space in memory, and then I am not aware of any other reasons to continue using malloc backing. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 11:14:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8EC16A419 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from mail.sucked-in.com (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AFB13C494 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from localhost (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906871CE11; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:16:06 +1000 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sucked-in.com Received: from mail.sucked-in.com ([64.251.22.156]) by localhost (mail.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lk92I29vSyAZ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:16:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from TerryPC (220-253-148-94.VIC.netspace.net.au [220.253.148.94]) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEE71CC30; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:16:04 +1000 (EST) From: "Terry Sposato" To: "'Bill Moran'" , References: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> <200709021221.54268.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20070902070514.0294b074.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20070902070514.0294b074.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:14:24 +1000 Message-ID: <001a01c7ed52$6dc50c80$494f2580$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcftUYOj45k9YB89ThOCiBKIFRqYagAALhHQ Content-language: en-au Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD time servers and Windows clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:14:35 -0000 Bill, The registry setting is to allow you to sync time to an internet source and also offer the ability of the Windows Time Service to sync other machines which aren't actively part of a domain relationship. If you want to do this then the registry fix is the way. If you want to simply sync with a non-domain time source then group policy is the best way on Windows Server operating systems. Regards, Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Bill Moran Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2007 9:05 PM To: takhoos@hotmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD time servers and Windows clients wrote: > > > Hi all, > I have one FreeBSD NTP server which syncs all my server clocks. Getting the NTP server running was a piece of cake following the instructions in the online handbook. Recently I was asked to sync a bunch of windows machines (10 of them) to my NTP server. Now I'm not a windows person, so I asked one of the windows people to figure out his side since my side was up and running. He wrote this little .bat file to run on the windows boxes to be sync'd. Its pretty straight forward....just save it as a .bat file (time.bat) and run it from your XP box. Make sure to enter your NTP IP address where the x's are below. It seems to work fine for us. Your mileage may vary. There may be better/easier ways of doing this, but this is what works ok for us.... This sounds like a bad idea to me. I seem to remember there's a registry setting where you can specify explicit NTP servers for Windows. Any reason why he went this route? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 11:18:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A615C16A418 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC2713C459; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <46DA9BED.20804@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:18:05 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Long References: <20070902012446.GA17048@ns.umpquanet.com> In-Reply-To: <20070902012446.GA17048@ns.umpquanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recent update to RELENG_6 creates lots of calcru warnings X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:18:07 -0000 James Long wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD RELENG_6 on a Compaq DL380 G2 dual PIII-1.4GHz with > an SMP kernel. dmesg below. > > Prior to about August 12, the system had been quite stable. > > Since that time, I am finding lots of calcru warnings, which often > cause system services to fail when they see unorthodox time shifts. > > Section 5.19 of the handbook appears not to be current any longer, > suggesting setting kern.timecounter.method=1. > kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254 also does not improve things. > > Other suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Jim > > > Sep 1 18:00:30 ns sudo: james : TTY=ttyp0 ; PWD=/usr/local/www/sites/com.umpquanet/support ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/sysctl -w kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254 > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1343309 usec to 1178478 usec for pid 3663 (hpasmd) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1274607 usec for pid 3660 (hpasmd) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 6470361 usec to 5811413 usec for pid 995 (postgres) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1099076 usec for pid 36 (pagedaemon) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -5928105 usec for pid 35 (fdc0) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1526937 usec for pid 32 (acpi_cooling0) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 8015143 usec to 1437770 usec for pid 15 (yarrow) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -12360933 usec for pid 2 (g_event) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -2106022786 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 295074296 usec to 292484248 usec for pid 1 (init) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1343309 usec to 1178478 usec for pid 3663 (hpasmd) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1274607 usec for pid 3660 (hpasmd) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 6470361 usec to 5811413 usec for pid 995 (postgres) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1099076 usec for pid 36 (pagedaemon) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -5928105 usec for pid 35 (fdc0) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1526937 usec for pid 32 (acpi_cooling0) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 8015143 usec to 1437770 usec for pid 15 (yarrow) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -12360933 usec for pid 2 (g_event) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -2106022734 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 295074296 usec to 292484248 usec for pid 1 (init) > > dmesg output: > > Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 27 17:24:37 PDT 2007 > root@ns.umpquanet.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP-UMP > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU family 1400MHz (1390.66-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6b1 Stepping = 1 > Features=0x383fbff > real memory = 1073725440 (1023 MB) > avail memory = 1037357056 (989 MB) > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 3 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 0 > MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI > ioapic1 irqs 16-31 on motherboard > ioapic0 irqs 0-15 on motherboard > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x240-0x243 on acpi0 > cpu0: on acpi0 > cpu1: on acpi0 > pcib0: on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > ciss0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xf5ec0000-0xf5efffff,0xf3ef0000-0xf3ef3fff irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 > ciss0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > fxp0: port 0x2400-0x243f mem 0xf5eb0000-0xf5eb0fff,0xf5d00000-0xf5dfffff irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci0 > miibus0: on fxp0 > inphy0: on miibus0 > inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:02:a5:ad:82:d5 > fxp1: port 0x2440-0x247f mem 0xf5cf0000-0xf5cf0fff,0xf5b00000-0xf5bfffff irq 20 at device 4.0 on pci0 > miibus1: on fxp1 > inphy1: on miibus1 > inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > fxp1: Ethernet address: 00:02:a5:ad:82:d4 > pci0: at device 6.0 (no driver attached) > isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x2c00-0x2c0f at device 15.1 on pci0 > ata0: on atapci0 > ata1: on atapci0 > ohci0: mem 0xf3fd0000-0xf3fd0fff irq 22 at device 15.2 on pci0 > ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting > usb0: on ohci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > pcib1: on acpi0 > pci1: on pcib1 > pcib2: at device 3.0 on pci1 > pci2: on pcib2 > pci2: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) > pci1: at device 3.1 (no driver attached) > pcib3: on acpi0 > pci7: on pcib3 > pci7: at device 7.0 (no driver attached) > acpi_tz0: on acpi0 > atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > sio0: port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 > sio0: type 16550A > fdc0: port 0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 > fdc0: [FAST] > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 > pmtimer0 on isa0 > orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xcc000-0xcd7ff,0xee000-0xeffff on isa0 > ppc0: parallel port not found. > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > acd0: CDROM at ata0-master PIO4 > sa0 at ciss0 bus 32 target 6 lun 0 > sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device > sa0: 135.168MB/s transfers > da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device > da0: 135.168MB/s transfers > da0: 34727MB (71122560 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 8716C) > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a > calcru: negative runtime of -1298258 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > calcru: negative runtime of -1298243 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > calcru: negative runtime of -1298218 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > calcru: negative runtime of -1298218 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > calcru: negative runtime of -1298201 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > calcru: negative runtime of -1298201 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > calcru: negative runtime of -1298201 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > calcru: negative runtime of -1298201 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > calcru: negative runtime of -1297853 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > calcru: negative runtime of -1297853 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > ... etc. > calcru: negative runtime of -1273295 usec for pid 3660 (hpasmd) > calcru: runtime went backwards from 6470361 usec to 5829070 usec for pid 995 (postgres) > calcru: negative runtime of -1098784 usec for pid 36 (pagedaemon) > calcru: negative runtime of -5926871 usec for pid 35 (fdc0) > calcru: negative runtime of -1526724 usec for pid 32 (acpi_cooling0) > calcru: runtime went backwards from 8015143 usec to 1450174 usec for pid 15 (yarrow) > calcru: negative runtime of -12349712 usec for pid 2 (g_event) > calcru: negative runtime of -2105724281 usec for pid 13 (swi4: clock sio) > calcru: runtime went backwards from 295074296 usec to 292484248 usec for pid 1 (init) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Does reverting to the older kernel work? If so, can you isolate which commit caused the problem by doing a binary search of date ranges? This should be easy to do since the rate of changes to RELENG_6 is low. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 11:25:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1956616A41B for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E4D13C45E for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:25:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF1D1CC38 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:25:39 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:25:34 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1d50aecb97dbfc0d53c65c6cc2185ed3@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1d50aecb97dbfc0d53c65c6cc2185ed3@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709021325.36735.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: Backup the basics of the system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:25:56 -0000 On Saturday 01 September 2007 21:36:50 Joshua Isom wrote: > I'm about to downgrade from -CURRENT to 6-STABLE, and since I can't > seem do it in place without screwing around with a lot of stuff, I > might need to reinstall completely. The proper way to downgrade is to restore the level 0 backups you made before upgrading, as outlined in /usr/src/UPDATING. Downgrades are especially hard. > But which configuration files are > the ones I need to backup the most? I know rc.conf and loader.conf, > but what else would be needed to easily restore the setup of the > system? Would I just somehow be able to use mergemaster to get a diff > and manually apply everything? /etc/periodic.conf, /etc/master.passwd aside from the ones you mentioned. Also, any dir in /etc/ that's not from the base system (/etc/X11* comes to mind). To save yourself a headache, I'd rm -rf /etc/rc.d before doing installworld and run mergemaster as mergemaster -i. I *think* mergemaster just checks if a CVSId is different, not older. Same for make delete-old whether a file is in the base system and not in the source tree. Let's hope for your sake it is :) -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 11:55:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B3A16A41B for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:55:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C398013C45B for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:55:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1618761waf for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:54:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=tRiItsYnQ/izDJSQ7qLG0uBLIVHBhjkUOYu4UnSIVVlMaW+YeYogmaR5HvEinxGBRzANlZiEal9UcvurjamWO+hslZG2Ua9jFQYAZaYQZlExkzbs8EaoiEStdumOMf/qrP+1G/c9H0L2M2I4ZTbnB3a+rZbRaV/SIVty8kS+2ew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=miX/4i3PAdonIDPssJxXgAepA41uDJwIb8AiXU+BJc3JMyyAKNm8sIlJrPQxVxMaPvdFGgmX25gMtWJA3FG9I3zQ0lNYjnRlJemNGcsvS+EkDoqrHmWh9pdu32yVMEu1/MJv8Vnm9ytOstL9bU2bxiYGDaCnmTbLuQ8DGBVWnas= Received: by 10.115.88.1 with SMTP id q1mr2916200wal.1188733684175; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.210.7 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28283d910709020448q77a9e18cu52d147f821debad6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:48:04 -0400 From: "matt donovan" Sender: kitchetech@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ef073a6b46591e6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: x11 drivers - conflicts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:55:06 -0000 You have to do make config in xorg-drivers again to reconfigure the port > > > Message: 33 > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:39:15 +0100 (BST) > From: Robert Davison > Subject: x11 drivers - conflicts > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <311478.36031.qm@web25007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I was this evening doing a portupgrade on some of my outdated packages one > of which was x11-drivers > > I did a portupgrade -arR and got the blue config screen for the > x11-drivers. I stupidly chose and intel driver which when i run the > portupgrade ends with the following error > > "you cant choose both i810 and intel drivers as they are conflicting" > > Where do I find the config that I change to stop the build process > including the intel driver. I've looked in the x11-driver makefile and cant > see anything out of the ordinary. > > Or how do I make the build process bring the blue config screen up again > so I can deselect the intel driver. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > End of freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 192, Issue 20 > ************************************************** > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 11:58:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09CB16A418 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE2113C46B for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:58:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 508 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2007 06:57:34 -0500 Received: from 124-170-76-14.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.76.14) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 2 Sep 2007 06:57:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:57:29 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070902215729.49ab4a2a@localhost> In-Reply-To: <200708312209.43216.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <20070831202729.7e4c0f7a@localhost> <200708311740.07360.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20070901022726.1e629b2c@localhost> <200708312209.43216.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pf rdr + netsed : reinject loop... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:58:07 -0000 On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:09:42 +0200 Mel wrote: > On Friday 31 August 2007 18:27:26 Norberto Meijome wrote: > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:40:06 +0200 > > > > Mel wrote: > > > > netsed's output is (part ) : > > > > --- > > > > Script started on Fri Aug 31 07:52:12 2007 > > > > [root@localhost /usr/home/luser]# netsed tcp 10101 0 0 s/FOO/BAR > > > > netsed 0.01b by Michal Zalewski > > > > [*] Parsing rule s/FOO/BAR ... > > > > [+] Loaded 1 rules... > > > > [+] Listening on port 10101/tcp. > > > > [+] Using dynamic (transparent proxy) forwarding. > > > > > > > > [+] Got incoming connection from 172.16.82.81:1178 to 127.0.0.1:10101 > > > > [*] Forwarding connection to 127.0.0.1:10101 > > > > [+] Got incoming connection from 127.0.0.1:51337 to 127.0.0.1:10101 > > > > [*] Forwarding connection to 127.0.0.1:10101 > > > > [+] Caught client -> server packet. > > > > > > I think you need to figure out what this 'transparent proxy mode' of > > > netsed does, cause it should under no circumstances forward to itself... > > > > it simply forwards the packet to the dst_ip:dst_port it originally had. > > But, as Daniel H pointed out, those packets had been rewritten by pf's rdr > > to go TO netsed's ip:port .... hence netsed wont change anything. It works > > fine in non-proxy mode, but as I said in my first msg, that is not an > > option for me. > > > > So the obvious question is how to get the packets to netsed's IP:PORT > > without having the packet's original destination IP/PORT changed....maybe > > incorporating the netsed code into a socks5-compatible server (in my case, > > the app that generates the packets understands SOCKS). Alas, I am drawing a > > blank here atm. > > > > Otherwise, i can only think that a new netgraph node would perform better > > than my current pf + netsed approach.... > > Figured I'd take a shot at it and it works: > # ./netsed tcp 10101 0 0 s/boo/GET/ > netsed 0.01b by Michal Zalewski > [*] Parsing rule s/boo/GET/... > [+] Loaded 1 rules... > [+] Listening on port 10101/tcp. > [+] Using dynamic (transparent proxy) forwarding. > [+] Got incoming connection from 11.22.33.44:27712 to 127.0.0.1:10101 > [*] Forwarding connection to 55.66.77.88:80 > [+] Caught client -> server packet. > > Renamed the ip's to protect the innocent, but that's all. I typed boo / > HTTP/1.0 and got back a solid page of html. > Patch inlined below sig. I'm surprised no one ever caught up on this, seeing > the makefile is last modified in 2005 :) > Mel, Thanks so very much for putting this together. It works a charm. I may put together some BSD specific documentation for this port, and possible add some build-time options to the port. Also, if memory serves me right, ipfw's divert may not be modifying the packets : i have used ipfw diver with the tcpmss daemon and there were no issues - of course, it may be that tcpmss checked with ipfw's table to see what change had been done, in which case netsed should support it too. Humbled again, grateful and proud of OSS, B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "I've dirtied my hands writing poetry, for the sake of seduction; that is, for the sake of a useful cause." Dostoevsky I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 11:59:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA2F16A417 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (38-5.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch [85.1.5.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0387313C47E for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: from saturn.pcs.ms (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l82BxOLM039273; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:59:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin@saturn.pcs.ms) Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.pcs.ms (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l82BxOx8039272; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:59:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from martin) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:59:24 +0200 From: Martin Schweizer To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20070902115924.GA38350@saturn.pcs.ms> Mail-Followup-To: Kris Kennaway , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070822042246.GA3497@saturn.pcs.ms> <20070822043725.GA2869@rot26.obsecurity.org> <20070822045118.GB3497@saturn.pcs.ms> <20070822063102.GA4141@rot26.obsecurity.org> <20070822064430.GB3852@saturn.pcs.ms> <20070822132050.GA9055@rot26.obsecurity.org> <20070826153546.GA637@saturn.pcs.ms> <20070827153454.GB70070@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070827153454.GB70070@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH, CH-8608 Bubikon, Switzerland X-PGP-Key: http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc X-Fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: ldconfig problem after upgrade 4.11 to 5.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Schweizer List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:59:42 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Kris Am Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 03:34:54PM +0000 Kris Kennaway schrieb: > > > > > > > > After I updated my 4.11 to an 5.5 system (following /usr/sr= c/UPDATING), I get=20 > > > > > > > > around 63 error messages while the system boot up: > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > ldconfig: /var/run/ld.so.hints: No such file or directory > > > > > > > > search: trailing characters ignored > > > > > > > > No such file or directory > > > > > > > > 0: - lmalloc.1.1: trailing characters ignored. No s= uch file or=20 > > > > > > > > directory > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Looks like it might be a broken symlink. > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Why are you updating to 5.5 though? You should be using 6.2. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > If I'm understanding /usr/src/UPDATING correct I should first u= pdate to 5.5=20 > > > > > > and then to 6.2? > > > > >=20 > > > > > OK. It may have been easier (and still could be) to just do a bi= nary > > > > > upgrade instead. > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Any ideas where I can check this symlink? > > > > >=20 > > > > > Use find(1) to look for libmalloc.so.1.1 > > > >=20 > > > > The files are all located in /usr/lib/compat/aout. The path is defi= ned in=20 > > > > /etc/defaults/rc.conf > > > > [snip] > > > > ldconfig_paths_aout=3D"/usr/lib/compat/aout /usr/X11R6/lib/aout /us= r/local/lib/aout" > > > > [snip] > > > >=20 > > > > Any ideas? > > >=20 > > > Are you missing aout support from your kernel? I think it's COMPAT_A= OUT. > >=20 > > After reading about ldconfig and playing with the parameters (see man p= age) I=20 > > find out that the processing of the pathes in /etc/defaults/rc.conf isn= 't=20 > > correct. > > /etc/defaults/rc.conf: > > [snip] > > ldconfig_insecure=3D"NO" # Set to YES to disable ldconfig security chec= ks > > ldconfig_paths=3D"/usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib" > > ldconfig_paths_aout=3D"/usr/lib/compat/aout /usr/X11R6/lib/aout /usr/lo= cal/lib/aout" > > ldconfig_local_dirs=3D"/usr/local/libdata/ldconfig /usr/X11R6/libdata/l= dconfig" > > # Local directories with ldconfig configuration files. > > ldconfig_local32_dirs=3D"/usr/local/libdata/ldconfig32 /usr/X11R6/libda= ta/ldconfig32" > > # Local directories with 32-bit compatibility ldconfig > > [snip] > >=20 > > Following this I set in /etc/rc.conf > >=20 > > [snip] > > ldconfig_paths_aout=3D"/usr/lib/compat/aout" > > [snip] > >=20 > > Any ideas why the kernel do not process the pathes correct? > >=20 > > Now it works. Thank you for your help. > >=20 >=20 > You need a.out support *IN YOUR KERNEL*. i.e. you need to enable it > in your kernel configuration and recompile your kernel. Only for clarification. This option I've in my kernel: [snip] options COMPAT_AOUT [snip] After the above change in /etc/rc.conf no messages occurs while FreeBSD is= =20 starting. --=20 Regards, Martin Schweizer PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;=20 fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7 10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239; --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG2qWbwa4WkdMP0jkRAkn8AJ0SoWTauS0xf8sWC54nWCs6K4eb5gCg+f3w nOCtzrsG9zuOjacVt09MWnA= =BKZJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 12:18:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4A216A419 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8AA13C45E for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:18:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so1358292fka for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 05:18:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FoLj6fmGEJnl/3hxSBfEP9TQsaJMoHGkmd8Q6HIhBspfhRqC18teuBVIS76xOqFpRQnwiVEpCciYMLV+ixLTk0XCuQ8PDXMTMwUjYeBfIvWS1HRt+frrSXvbH7j1bncZVf0WvBXAGnZX8qra5C8sWoHqEANi5zBmlD927PIFolo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bGmcSCB3vyOYcew8miGchtKJzaCDEavy1GytzyvmdEHqCO/lqK+9TkTed8uDDK1Oxm4kjTjVB8/AzOKrCSKLdkhz0q4wXVzPYDXnKmV8kd2k8nBB3a8fO1NbwWQqc9TEj/wstQebq5b/CU5nSBi21kkpZ0wi84kEuUvL2LotKlk= Received: by 10.82.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr8346770bue.1188735497129; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 05:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.191.14 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 05:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20709020518i22151b56x6a77c2f35eb6b2b0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:18:17 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: problems with a rc.d script I'm creating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:18:39 -0000 > I haven't figured out the proper way myself, but the problem is that the > defaults you set at top, override the rc.conf variables, because they don't > exist yet. What I do is move load_rc_config before setting defaults. General > order becomes: > name=foo > rcvar=`set_rcvar` > load_rc_config ${name} > foo_default=${foo_default:-"default value"} > run_rc_command "$1" > > Seems to work, maybe I'll figure out the proper way once I finish reading: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/rc-scripting/index.html Thanks. Putting this before anything else butt he #!/bin/sh and the intro comments "worked" but spat out some errors. ======================================== name=akpop3d rcvar=`set_rcvar` load_rc_config ${name} ======================================== [root@legolas /usr/local/etc/rc.d]# ./akpop3d start set_rcvar: not found load_rc_config: not found Starting akpop3d. ======================================== So, I tried putting the `. /etc/rc.subr` before that, but it didn't even start the server (processed with no errors, and a ps -A showed no server) At least I have something that *works* now, even if it spews errors. Thank you. Also, if you reply, could you please reply-all? Sorry, I have this list in digest mode due to volume, and I can't do a proper reply that keeps thread information without having a normal copy. Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 12:58:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C09016A418 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E2B613C459 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 22777 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2007 12:31:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=KO9Pl32Fh9O9pAeknxS/dZDsksHsXCMuquJrBWjhKuDeyEpyKNHLM8Oh6toVo42WdQCT2Syykk2x7xfZ1Jq/BMlbkBhY2y7lwChGDqlYRJEkgvu64dTnDxK03Iti1F1Ci5W28vuR0P5gqg0CdN0DvA2LHd547UW2+otAnkrAwNw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.100?) (mike.jeays@rogers.com@74.104.218.93 with login) by smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2007 12:31:42 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: YJbzykEVM1lbq07_wFEhVuWYW7wDvGbtMMFc0G8f1WhdB7XiJx8Lwt8tMsJfzpQZQA-- From: Mike Jeays To: mchauber@gmx.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:31:41 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709020831.41628.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:58:47 -0000 On Sunday 02 September 2007 02:22, Michael Hauber wrote: > Hey, all... > > I've been a user of FreeBSD and OpenBSD for quite a while now. > Unfortunatly, I haven't had much time to tinker lately, and that's unlikely > to change in the near future. Sadly, I need to get an OS that my wife > would be more comfortable using and that wouldn't be as time-comsuming to > make it more comfortable for her. > > I downloaded the uberyl live CD and found that ubuntu seems to pick up on > everything I have on the laptop (as well as all the attachments), so I'm > downloading it now. > > Because I've put so much time into getting this FreeBSD install where it is > now (and because I favor the BSDs), I'm still a bit hesitant... Has anyone > here had much experience with ubunu as a desktop? Negatives/positives? > > Kind of OT, I guess... I'd just rather hear it from someone in this group > rather than the inevitable, "Oh yeah. You won't be sorry." from the ubuntu > folk (salespitches == fingernails on a chalkboard :) ). > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > PS. Yes, I've played with PC-BSD. Unfortunately, that's still more work > than I have time for. I am one of those sad cases who used FreeBSD for many years as my primary desktop at home, and then switched to Ubuntu about 6 months ago. I still run FreeBSD on an older server, that runs round the clock and is 100% reliable. I was only slightly frustrated by FreeBSD, mainly because of my inability to get a Hauuppage TV card to work, even after a few queries on this list. I also found that other multimedia software seemed more available and easier to set up - I not saying they were impossible, just that I seemed to be spending more time trying to get them to work than I wanted. Ubuntu works very well 'out of the box', and their Synaptic tool for finding and installing software is excellent. I am now running VirtualBox under Ubuntu, and it works extremely well; I can run W2K and XP for occasional use as guests, and what seems like full speed. (Much faster than QEMU, which I used before.) Both KDE and GNOME work fine, and for basic work with Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice and Postgresql, there is nothing much to choose between FreeBSD and Ubuntu from an office user's point of view. Both work great. Both seem rock solid, and recover well from the occasional power outages I get at my new home. (Ought to get a battery backup before disaster hits one day, I suppose). All the development tools are a few mouse-clicks away. I may switch back one day, as I like FreeBSD very much for its sound design and underlying philosophy. I feel 'guilty' about having changed! -- Mike Jeays http://www.jeays.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 13:12:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE2516A418 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C9B13C465 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l82DCjBP037762 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:12:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:12:44 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> <200709020831.41628.mike.jeays@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <200709020831.41628.mike.jeays@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709020812.44759.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:12:49 -0000 On Sunday 02 September 2007 07:31:41 Mike Jeays wrote: > On Sunday 02 September 2007 02:22, Michael Hauber wrote: > > Hey, all... > > > > I've been a user of FreeBSD and OpenBSD for quite a while now. > > Unfortunatly, I haven't had much time to tinker lately, and that's > > unlikely to change in the near future. Sadly, I need to get an OS that > > my wife would be more comfortable using and that wouldn't be as > > time-comsuming to make it more comfortable for her. > > > > I downloaded the uberyl live CD and found that ubuntu seems to pick up on > > everything I have on the laptop (as well as all the attachments), so I'm > > downloading it now. > > > > Because I've put so much time into getting this FreeBSD install where it > > is now (and because I favor the BSDs), I'm still a bit hesitant... Has > > anyone here had much experience with ubunu as a desktop? > > Negatives/positives? > > > > Kind of OT, I guess... I'd just rather hear it from someone in this > > group rather than the inevitable, "Oh yeah. You won't be sorry." from > > the ubuntu folk (salespitches == fingernails on a chalkboard :) ). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > > > > > PS. Yes, I've played with PC-BSD. Unfortunately, that's still more work > > than I have time for. > > I am one of those sad cases who used FreeBSD for many years as my primary > desktop at home, and then switched to Ubuntu about 6 months ago. I still > run FreeBSD on an older server, that runs round the clock and is 100% > reliable. > > I was only slightly frustrated by FreeBSD, mainly because of my inability > to get a Hauuppage TV card to work, even after a few queries on this list. > I also found that other multimedia software seemed more available and > easier to set up - I not saying they were impossible, just that I seemed to > be spending more time trying to get them to work than I wanted. > > Ubuntu works very well 'out of the box', and their Synaptic tool for > finding and installing software is excellent. I am now running VirtualBox > under Ubuntu, and it works extremely well; I can run W2K and XP for > occasional use as guests, and what seems like full speed. (Much faster than > QEMU, which I used before.) Both KDE and GNOME work fine, and for basic > work with Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice and Postgresql, there is nothing > much to choose between FreeBSD and Ubuntu from an office user's point of > view. Both work great. Both seem rock solid, and recover well from the > occasional power outages I get at my new home. (Ought to get a battery > backup before disaster hits one day, I suppose). All the development tools > are a few mouse-clicks away. > > I may switch back one day, as I like FreeBSD very much for its sound design > and underlying philosophy. I feel 'guilty' about having changed! from my experience as an admin over at openaddict.com, ubuntu really seems to have ascended quickly thru the ranks of the quality distributions. if you take a look at distrowatch.com, ubuntu is also the most highest clicked on distro. based on behavior from what i see from the linux community, it looks like: > "Oh yeah. You won't be sorry." cheers, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 13:13:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0406016A47C for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCC213C461 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610921CC38; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 05:13:05 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:13:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20709020518i22151b56x6a77c2f35eb6b2b0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709020518i22151b56x6a77c2f35eb6b2b0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709021513.03398.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Jim Stapleton Subject: Re: problems with a rc.d script I'm creating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:13:08 -0000 On Sunday 02 September 2007 14:18:17 Jim Stapleton wrote: > > I haven't figured out the proper way myself, but the problem is that the > > defaults you set at top, override the rc.conf variables, because they > > don't exist yet. What I do is move load_rc_config before setting > > defaults. General order becomes: > > name=foo > > rcvar=`set_rcvar` > > load_rc_config ${name} > > foo_default=${foo_default:-"default value"} > > run_rc_command "$1" > > > > Seems to work, maybe I'll figure out the proper way once I finish > > reading: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/rc-scripting/index.ht > >ml > > Thanks. > > Putting this before anything else butt he #!/bin/sh and the intro > comments "worked" but spat out some errors. > ======================================== > name=akpop3d > rcvar=`set_rcvar` > load_rc_config ${name} > ======================================== > [root@legolas /usr/local/etc/rc.d]# ./akpop3d start > set_rcvar: not found > load_rc_config: not found > Starting akpop3d. > ======================================== > > > So, I tried putting the `. /etc/rc.subr` before that, but it didn't > even start the server (processed with no errors, and a ps -A showed no > server) That's weird. Here's my qpopper one, that works. Maybe you can find what's causing the errors for you: #!/bin/sh # PROVIDE: qpopper # REQUIRE: DAEMON . /etc/rc.subr name="qpopper" rcvar=`set_rcvar` load_rc_config $name qpopper_config=${qpopper_config:-"/usr/local/etc/qpopper.config"} qpopper_host=${qpopper_host:-"127.0.0.1"} qpopper_port=${qpopper_port:-"110"} command="/usr/local/libexec/${name}" command_args="-f ${qpopper_config} ${qpopper_host}:${qpopper_port}" required_files=${qpopper_config} run_rc_command "$1" > Also, if you reply, could you please reply-all? Sorry, I have this > list in digest mode due to volume, and I can't do a proper reply that > keeps thread information without having a normal copy. Ah. Done. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 13:45:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADC716A41A for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689A813C469 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so1288477mue for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 06:44:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kdT1mQsNb9d2HwoX+SYeLXwV2aJ9URRvfFbmqP+edYykJc6eIBhm0/CZ48rsjYylM40g/CIe+F5gSJdgXFoKxpsmjJpJLgBaldCNXbSo4HOW2Udm9USqpbb8YnyYaMLwZfC3ou3/uO3x8Ger01trwrkHCuam02/DaePjEBU5+Ac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=V0IpQQL65wJ44FUraE2YmYLzJN5hY7i46+Sk7jTFudgJRMpta2h3YMSSS5uz6nQNN4jBN7vuCLg4zEsBACcjInWpQZhfWAMhq/2ahHBycPuuQMcUWPCQuLL1p/aHnLo+3XhkncH7tgYhigjAN55MRwmkZdqizJbqVNHqP6Ayubk= Received: by 10.82.186.5 with SMTP id j5mr5433041buf.1188740673019; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 06:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.191.14 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 06:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20709020644l4fc4a4b0u176936c721a24b08@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:44:32 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200709021513.03398.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20709020518i22151b56x6a77c2f35eb6b2b0@mail.gmail.com> <200709021513.03398.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: problems with a rc.d script I'm creating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:45:01 -0000 Thanks, I'll play with that a bit more. -Jim Stapleton On 9/2/07, Mel wrote: > On Sunday 02 September 2007 14:18:17 Jim Stapleton wrote: > > > I haven't figured out the proper way myself, but the problem is that the > > > defaults you set at top, override the rc.conf variables, because they > > > don't exist yet. What I do is move load_rc_config before setting > > > defaults. General order becomes: > > > name=foo > > > rcvar=`set_rcvar` > > > load_rc_config ${name} > > > foo_default=${foo_default:-"default value"} > > > run_rc_command "$1" > > > > > > Seems to work, maybe I'll figure out the proper way once I finish > > > reading: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/rc-scripting/index.ht > > >ml > > > > Thanks. > > > > Putting this before anything else butt he #!/bin/sh and the intro > > comments "worked" but spat out some errors. > > ======================================== > > name=akpop3d > > rcvar=`set_rcvar` > > load_rc_config ${name} > > ======================================== > > [root@legolas /usr/local/etc/rc.d]# ./akpop3d start > > set_rcvar: not found > > load_rc_config: not found > > Starting akpop3d. > > ======================================== > > > > > > So, I tried putting the `. /etc/rc.subr` before that, but it didn't > > even start the server (processed with no errors, and a ps -A showed no > > server) > > That's weird. Here's my qpopper one, that works. Maybe you can find what's > causing the errors for you: > #!/bin/sh > # PROVIDE: qpopper > # REQUIRE: DAEMON > > . /etc/rc.subr > > name="qpopper" > rcvar=`set_rcvar` > load_rc_config $name > > qpopper_config=${qpopper_config:-"/usr/local/etc/qpopper.config"} > qpopper_host=${qpopper_host:-"127.0.0.1"} > qpopper_port=${qpopper_port:-"110"} > > command="/usr/local/libexec/${name}" > command_args="-f ${qpopper_config} ${qpopper_host}:${qpopper_port}" > required_files=${qpopper_config} > > run_rc_command "$1" > > > Also, if you reply, could you please reply-all? Sorry, I have this > > list in digest mode due to volume, and I can't do a proper reply that > > keeps thread information without having a normal copy. > > Ah. Done. > > > -- > Mel > > People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 14:36:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A6A16A41B; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3A713C46A; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <46DACA87.8080709@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:36:55 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070822042246.GA3497@saturn.pcs.ms> <20070822043725.GA2869@rot26.obsecurity.org> <20070822045118.GB3497@saturn.pcs.ms> <20070822063102.GA4141@rot26.obsecurity.org> <20070822064430.GB3852@saturn.pcs.ms> <20070822132050.GA9055@rot26.obsecurity.org> <20070826153546.GA637@saturn.pcs.ms> <20070827153454.GB70070@hub.freebsd.org> <20070902115924.GA38350@saturn.pcs.ms> In-Reply-To: <20070902115924.GA38350@saturn.pcs.ms> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: ldconfig problem after upgrade 4.11 to 5.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:36:57 -0000 Martin Schweizer wrote: > Hello Kris > > Am Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 03:34:54PM +0000 Kris Kennaway schrieb: >>>>>>>>> After I updated my 4.11 to an 5.5 system (following /usr/src/UPDATING), I get >>>>>>>>> around 63 error messages while the system boot up: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ldconfig: /var/run/ld.so.hints: No such file or directory >>>>>>>>> search: trailing characters ignored >>>>>>>>> No such file or directory >>>>>>>>> 0: - lmalloc.1.1: trailing characters ignored. No such file or >>>>>>>>> directory >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks like it might be a broken symlink. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why are you updating to 5.5 though? You should be using 6.2. >>>>>>> If I'm understanding /usr/src/UPDATING correct I should first update to 5.5 >>>>>>> and then to 6.2? >>>>>> OK. It may have been easier (and still could be) to just do a binary >>>>>> upgrade instead. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Any ideas where I can check this symlink? >>>>>> Use find(1) to look for libmalloc.so.1.1 >>>>> The files are all located in /usr/lib/compat/aout. The path is defined in >>>>> /etc/defaults/rc.conf >>>>> [snip] >>>>> ldconfig_paths_aout="/usr/lib/compat/aout /usr/X11R6/lib/aout /usr/local/lib/aout" >>>>> [snip] >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas? >>>> Are you missing aout support from your kernel? I think it's COMPAT_AOUT. >>> After reading about ldconfig and playing with the parameters (see man page) I >>> find out that the processing of the pathes in /etc/defaults/rc.conf isn't >>> correct. >>> /etc/defaults/rc.conf: >>> [snip] >>> ldconfig_insecure="NO" # Set to YES to disable ldconfig security checks >>> ldconfig_paths="/usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib" >>> ldconfig_paths_aout="/usr/lib/compat/aout /usr/X11R6/lib/aout /usr/local/lib/aout" >>> ldconfig_local_dirs="/usr/local/libdata/ldconfig /usr/X11R6/libdata/ldconfig" >>> # Local directories with ldconfig configuration files. >>> ldconfig_local32_dirs="/usr/local/libdata/ldconfig32 /usr/X11R6/libdata/ldconfig32" >>> # Local directories with 32-bit compatibility ldconfig >>> [snip] >>> >>> Following this I set in /etc/rc.conf >>> >>> [snip] >>> ldconfig_paths_aout="/usr/lib/compat/aout" >>> [snip] >>> >>> Any ideas why the kernel do not process the pathes correct? >>> >>> Now it works. Thank you for your help. >>> >> You need a.out support *IN YOUR KERNEL*. i.e. you need to enable it >> in your kernel configuration and recompile your kernel. > > Only for clarification. This option I've in my kernel: > [snip] > options COMPAT_AOUT > [snip] > > After the above change in /etc/rc.conf no messages occurs while FreeBSD is > starting. OK great, thanks for confirming. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 15:25:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836BE16A417 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8FD13C461 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1171485wxd for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 08:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.129.6 with SMTP id b6mr6346434wxd.1188746710982; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h14sm2119332wxd.2007.09.02.08.25.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 Sep 2007 08:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:25:15 -0400 To: User Questions Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> References: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20070902112339.8616.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.31 [en] From: Gerard Subject: Re: problems with a rc.d script I'm creating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:25:30 -0000 On September 01, 2007 at 11:17PM Jim Stapleton wrote: > akpop3d_enable=${akpop3d_enable-"NO"} > akpop3d_pidfile=${akpop3d_pidfile-"/var/run/akpop3d.pid"} > akpop3d_flags=${akpop3d_flags-"-d -s -L .akpop3d"} > akpop3d_conffile=${akpop3d_conffile-""} > akpop3d_flush_cache=${akpop3d_flush_cache-"NO"} I believe you have to precede these with a colon and space; i.e. ": " for it to work correctly. -- Gerard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 15:57:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4688816A417 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:57:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cdubfx@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E926413C45B for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cdubfx@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k4so995206nfd for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 08:57:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=hZeOfXHox1PRHZblcs/9UBJdHr4psjbxv0RDFzge5D4QvVy3dfOZga1t64aYf258I1xgA6ez4WE1YWhzdfjL6b1g1ToINchZ5l5NkJzKtMe9VZy9Z22BSqm8MIaYnF1v/HJQh1UpaopXG49p7lYfN0LEBawvicaEjLvHupEkbtQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qAKHD0pD7wvkfukSVjazZj/53HUhsjDc08SM6dlUJjwn+ZmC/AWrJq+NXIvnIbCTyR5MdD5ezaHM1t78EradL+XOecIw4fbMG8lp80Xuk1EBQFNL2xtnzHbvrAxruz5+MsbZRWvxSM80tqzA5SAFB0hZocWS8C2lYODTY0F/1Q4= Received: by 10.86.58.3 with SMTP id g3mr2620243fga.1188747108911; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 08:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.99.18 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <72d64df10709020831q7a4276c0l68f61027d2afbba0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:31:48 -0400 From: Charlie To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: xfce4 and 6.2: dbus-daemon is using 100% cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:57:19 -0000 Hi everyone, I'm running 6.2-RELEASE on two systems (a Pentium 4 and a dual Athlon), and whenever I log into Xfce4, I notice that a process called "dbus-daemon" is invoked and eats up 100% of the CPU when no other processes are running. If another process is running, dbus-daemon only hogs about 50% of the CPU, but this is still frustrating. If, for example, I am compiling a port, dbus-daemon takes about 50% of my CPU time, leaving only half the processor's time for compiling. I am fairly new to xfce, and googling the issue hasn't helped me out. Any ideas? How can I fix dbus so it doesn't use so much CPU, or how can I disable it completely? I know it is used for inter-application communication, but I'm not entirely sure I need it (I don't see any adverse effects when I kill it manually). I don't see anything unusual in /var/log/messages, nor any errors in ~/.xsession-errors. Thanks for the help, Charlie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 16:14:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C144716A41A for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE2A13C4A5 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k4so997287nfd for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:13:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IIJj65U9dPlHJugeGS2fZ4ZwEkhEAHd5TPeja2J08RDzvsbNCf35HZStkirwZYZI1a6IrkoSxPO43L6Sy/BD2ETQiR+M2+82KLpOwJJWNg2iYqD4AbNNxwZGJ4VtiJ0MnxDhNXmXA/ekVjFL/IK8Z7xkDx6v7aU7/Yt0/1lJxMU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=njmOXGTYwnE4ynaPlMf0NAe37Z9hHGNoRnNRKZyjZS3JxV3tNvnYCfYxHSCbr0/IVgMrS3crEBXkvHLnXqV/xlMXyaCBT3lUDBe+vFfjAXcRWKoFEKaBqMdcqMJnB0YlxzJH4CHEWQUdt3zGMYIRHRt+r18kL7vrXIc+fwTOcMg= Received: by 10.86.65.11 with SMTP id n11mr2669817fga.1188749626629; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.9.7 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:13:46 -0500 From: "Andrew Gould" To: "Mike Jeays" In-Reply-To: <200709020831.41628.mike.jeays@rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> <200709020831.41628.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: mchauber@gmx.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:14:07 -0000 On 9/2/07, Mike Jeays wrote: > > On Sunday 02 September 2007 02:22, Michael Hauber wrote: > > Hey, all... > > > > I've been a user of FreeBSD and OpenBSD for quite a while now. > > Unfortunatly, I haven't had much time to tinker lately, and that's > unlikely > > to change in the near future. Sadly, I need to get an OS that my wife > > would be more comfortable using and that wouldn't be as time-comsuming > to > > make it more comfortable for her. > > > > I downloaded the uberyl live CD and found that ubuntu seems to pick up > on > > everything I have on the laptop (as well as all the attachments), so I'm > > downloading it now. > > > > Because I've put so much time into getting this FreeBSD install where it > is > > now (and because I favor the BSDs), I'm still a bit hesitant... Has > anyone > > here had much experience with ubunu as a desktop? Negatives/positives? > > > > Kind of OT, I guess... I'd just rather hear it from someone in this > group > > rather than the inevitable, "Oh yeah. You won't be sorry." from the > ubuntu > > folk (salespitches == fingernails on a chalkboard :) ). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > > > > > PS. Yes, I've played with PC-BSD. Unfortunately, that's still more > work > > than I have time for. > > I am one of those sad cases who used FreeBSD for many years as my primary > desktop at home, and then switched to Ubuntu about 6 months ago. I still > run > FreeBSD on an older server, that runs round the clock and is 100% > reliable. > > I was only slightly frustrated by FreeBSD, mainly because of my inability > to > get a Hauuppage TV card to work, even after a few queries on this list. I > also found that other multimedia software seemed more available and easier > to > set up - I not saying they were impossible, just that I seemed to be > spending > more time trying to get them to work than I wanted. > > Ubuntu works very well 'out of the box', and their Synaptic tool for > finding > and installing software is excellent. I am now running VirtualBox under > Ubuntu, and it works extremely well; I can run W2K and XP for occasional > use > as guests, and what seems like full speed. (Much faster than QEMU, which I > used before.) Both KDE and GNOME work fine, and for basic work with > Firefox, > Thunderbird, OpenOffice and Postgresql, there is nothing much to choose > between FreeBSD and Ubuntu from an office user's point of view. Both work > great. Both seem rock solid, and recover well from the occasional power > outages I get at my new home. (Ought to get a battery backup before > disaster > hits one day, I suppose). All the development tools are a few > mouse-clicks > away. > > I may switch back one day, as I like FreeBSD very much for its sound > design > and underlying philosophy. I feel 'guilty' about having changed! > > -- > Mike Jeays > http://www.jeays.ca > _______________________________________________ > I moved from Linux to FreeBSD in 2000. Two years ago, at the request of my IT department, I started looking to move a database server back to Linux. Unfortunately(?), I found that each Linux distribution came with either problems or limitations. Several distros worked well out of the box; but I still had problems getting the applications I wanted working either because of bugs or license politics. I never made the move. Don't kid yourself, even open source applications and operating systems go through occasional periods where technical know-how is needed, even *Ubuntu. If you don't believe me, browse through the email lists of any *BSD or Linux operating system. This month's edition of Linux Format has an article documenting an experiment where 3 newbies are asked to perform various tasks in Linux. You may find this article useful. If the original poster is leaving FreeBSD to save time and make his wife's computing experience a pleasant one, I recommend Mac OS X. It comes with all of the advantages of Apple's understanding of users and user interfaces. Also, you can install your favorite unix apps via macports. In my home, I use Mac OS X for photo editing and creating slideshow DVDs. I use FreeBSD as my desktop and a database server. Good luck, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 17:45:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4898F16A41A; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:45:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arved@knut.arved.priv.at) Received: from knut.arved.priv.at (knut.arved.priv.at [213.9.70.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C6713C45D; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arved@knut.arved.priv.at) Received: from knut.arved.priv.at (knut.arved.priv.at [213.9.70.77]) by knut.arved.priv.at (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l82HRUA6005232; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:27:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arved@knut.arved.priv.at) Received: (from arved@localhost) by knut.arved.priv.at (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l82HRUiB005231; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:27:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arved) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:27:30 +0200 From: "arved@freebsd.org" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070902172729.GD59826@arved.priv.at> References: <200709021440.l82Ee9Cb001675@freefall.freebsd.org> <70f41ba20709020946k7e5d3c55xba93f379bc8723a3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <70f41ba20709020946k7e5d3c55xba93f379bc8723a3@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: snowcrash+freebsd , perl@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/115885: misc/help2man: help2man ignores installed gettext perl mod; insists on stale p5-* dependency X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:45:53 -0000 * snowcrash+freebsd [2007-09-02 19:11]: > > It is not supported to mix FreeBSD ports collection perl modules > > with modules installed from CPAN. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=115885 > > > I'm not "mixing" anything. I have *NO* FreeBSD ports collection perl > modules installed, at all. > > I *only* have CPAN modules installed. gettext is installed on my > system via CPAN. > > I am trying to get help2man to work with a CPAN-only installation. > > It does not. *IT* is trying to "mix" a port-perl-module, not me. You have perl modules installed, that have no corresponding installed FreeBSD port. There once was a project called BSDPAN that AFAIK was written to work around this problem, but i don't know what the status is (CCing perl). regards tilman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 17:56:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FF416A418 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mchauber@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A97B813C46C for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mchauber@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Sep 2007 17:56:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [192.168.1.102]) [204.116.241.146] by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 02 Sep 2007 19:56:27 +0200 X-Authenticated: #15034054 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+IZDRj5n2IyN70kVrRBHIt3s/dqAbXXgEDKMTexP iWDWKDGTm4P9/j From: Michael Hauber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:56:12 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> <46DA9AA5.8030904@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <46DA9AA5.8030904@otenet.gr> X-Copyright-Notice: 2007 Michael C. Hauber X-Copyright-Info: This transmission is copyrighted and may not be stored, printed, forwarded, or distributed by any means without the author's hand-written consent. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2988671.EBGl2pv5uX"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200709021356.23513.mchauber@gmx.net> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mchauber@gmx.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:56:30 -0000 --nextPart2988671.EBGl2pv5uX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 02 September 2007 07:12:37 am Manolis Kiagias proclaimed: > Michael Hauber wrote: > > Hey, all... > > > > I've been a user of FreeBSD and OpenBSD for quite a while now.=20 > > Unfortunatly, I haven't had much time to tinker lately, and that's > > unlikely to change in the near future. Sadly, I need to get an OS that > > my wife would be more comfortable using and that wouldn't be as > > time-comsuming to make it more comfortable for her. > > > > I downloaded the uberyl live CD and found that ubuntu seems to pick up = on > > everything I have on the laptop (as well as all the attachments), so I'm > > downloading it now. > > > > Because I've put so much time into getting this FreeBSD install where it > > is now (and because I favor the BSDs), I'm still a bit hesitant... Has > > anyone here had much experience with ubunu as a desktop?=20 > > Negatives/positives? > > > > Kind of OT, I guess... I'd just rather hear it from someone in this > > group rather than the inevitable, "Oh yeah. You won't be sorry." from > > the ubuntu folk (salespitches =3D=3D fingernails on a chalkboard :) ). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > > > > > PS. Yes, I've played with PC-BSD. Unfortunately, that's still more wo= rk > > than I have time for. > > I am working (and tinkering as you put it) with many kinds of systems: > Fedora / Ubuntu as desktops, Debian as servers, FreeBSD both desktops > and servers, Windows 2003 servers, XP desktops, even Vista :) > To put it simply, every system has its strong points, ups and downs. For > example, Windows has drivers for everything - many are crap, but they > still exist - and a few applications you just can't replace with > anything else. Ubuntu, the one you are considering, is based on Debian, > which I consider excellent, especially for servers. But if you are > coming from a FreeBSD background, Ubuntu will seem rather "restrictive" > and "easy". It is an easy desktop for *NIX beginners, and it is now > marketed as the Linux you will never have to touch the command line. As > I recall, the default install will not even setup gcc, although the > package (build-essential) is on CD. There are obviously a lot of helper > apps, like automatic installation of codecs etc. but it is still Linux. > If you are a power user you will need to tinker it, and there will be > things missing you will need to install. Example: First time I tried to > mount some NFS shares, they were taking ages. I found out it was missing > the nfs-common package. Maybe a beginner does not care about it, but I > consider this basic functionality and expect it to be there (or that I > will be informed it is not, beforehand). I also need the compiler, > kernel headers and stuff to compile kernel modules. Ubuntu seems to have > a lot of ready made things, good for beginners but quite limiting for > me, I have to actually rip things out to install my stuff (e.g. disable > their versions of some restricted drivers to install mine). That being > said, it is making an alternate, non-Windows desktop accessible to a lot > of people, which I consider a good thing. > Though I suggest Ubuntu to enthusiastic Linux beginners, I find it > difficult to give an argument for anyone with an average FreeBSD > knowledge. At home I mostly use Fedora as a Linux desktop. > > The part of your post I don't really understand, is what is really > bothering you with your FreeBSD install. Are you missing programs / > features you just can't live without? Is it something to do with the > ports / packages? Installing, customizing and becoming familiar with > your FreeBSD system does take some time, but this is followed by a very > long effortless stable operation. Assuming a typical installation where > users' needs don't constantly change, you can easily maintain a FreeBSD > install with minimum hassle. And how is Ubuntu going to be any easier > for your wife? Assuming you are administering the machine, a FreeBSD > with a Gnome desktop will be more or less the same from the user > standpoint to Ubuntu (or any other distro) with Gnome. > > These responses have all been informative, and I appreciate them very much.= =2E. To answer your question, it's a matter of access for both me and my wife. = Due=20 to my job, we travel quite a bit. For my wife, it's the small things=20 like, "My sister just sent me a link to a video on youtube and it's not=20 working right." For me, it's the hours I spend pouring over it, trying to= =20 get it to work for her. Personally, I prefer to build everything from ports because I can get the=20 custom builds. On this machine, that takes quite a bit of time. In one ca= se=20 (when FreeBSD ports went to x.org7.2 ), it took over a week to upgrade (I=20 arrived at a hotel and immediately started the upgrade, and when it came ti= me=20 a week later to check out, I had to stop it... That ended up creating a hu= ge=20 mess)... I'd like to think I'm pretty familiar with the BSDs. I've been using both= =20 =46reeBSD and OpenBSD since around '98 (both as desktops and various kinds = of=20 servers... I used to have 8 computers in my bedroom alone, and my hobby is= =20 tinkering. :) )... And I preffer them a great deal over any other=20 unix-like OS. But literally... I just don't have the time, anymore. For a= =20 server setup or something? Definately. Servers don't require a gui and all= =20 the bells and whistles so it's quick, painless, and rock-solid. For a=20 desktop? Not if time is so limited, there is only one computer left=20 (laptop), and the wife is getting annoid enough to say that she had it bett= er=20 in Egypt. :) I just assume have the bells-and-whistles working so her=20 friends don't give her a hard time about it (and something like Beryl would= =20 definately shut them up. :) Trivial, I know but for the wife it would be a= =20 well-deserved revenge. :) ). In short, I want something that "just works" and doesn't have the security = and=20 stability issues that the MS users seem to prefer. Linux seems to be the=20 better option for that. I'm in the process of backup, and will be installing ubuntu shortly. Like = one=20 of the repliers stated, I too feel somewhat guilty... But I'll be back one= =20 of these days. Thanks, all. Mike --nextPart2988671.EBGl2pv5uX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBG2vk9+uHcSBTNvT0RAt7PAKCf+vwSrIzHrO8Gakf7WcYp0Dht+wCgkgHL 8DwWJieneFgKG5TjKxPclgA= =HufI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2988671.EBGl2pv5uX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 18:12:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A7416A417 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schneecrash@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A774813C461 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schneecrash@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so4529879pyb for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:12:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=M0+4qXAkAA9FzMOJ5o4nmW7hVZC2n2rJ11JQIDzHsMteSExjTvUJ/r+o8Nwt++68uIQ5p37pyed4ATLxYI0Gf8rj1RIYiK8fTgJltOSl9b16btuzelSrrtc91WdZrW0PRiB+hnmwVwLizhjcwuQfgwHDFKzq9/4lk/BWNcx9PxA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Tzr01VvVuKFGyqUEHmGwQvkINow8AH1Yuh9y37DvGdf/ZOdFfGiRtdciF2rCfza4DMbNWO4TRuV/ByY18sWB7c1H8bvlAX8k2Tmx/7skExXb9FiKXqQCFjWSmf7snZsr5AmNiRcsfQ1oOhMLOXlEmPnGu+c8n0D4LlRcKC0uixQ= Received: by 10.65.43.5 with SMTP id v5mr6773375qbj.1188756723092; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.206.14 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <70f41ba20709021112p26024a1clc918963f5791a03f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:12:03 -0700 From: snowcrash+freebsd Sender: schneecrash@gmail.com To: "arved@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <20070902172729.GD59826@arved.priv.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200709021440.l82Ee9Cb001675@freefall.freebsd.org> <70f41ba20709020946k7e5d3c55xba93f379bc8723a3@mail.gmail.com> <20070902172729.GD59826@arved.priv.at> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a178392bf033e518 Cc: perl@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/115885: misc/help2man: help2man ignores installed gettext perl mod; insists on stale p5-* dependency X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:12:04 -0000 hi, > You have perl modules installed, that have no corresponding installed > FreeBSD port. i do not use BSDPAN -- it's sloppy about its dependency mgmt. as i do on every other os/platform, i use ONLY "native" cpan/cpanp. i have dozens of cpan-installed perl-modules. cpan/cpanp manage the dependencies just fine. the problem is in the case of 'help2man'. the port-install of help2man *DOES* use the cpan-installed gettext perl-module correctly, pkg_info | grep help2man help2man-1.36.4_1 Automatically generating simple manual pages from pkg_delete help2man-1.36.4_1 portinstall help2man ---> Installing 'help2man-1.36.4_1' from a port (misc/help2man) ---> Building '/usr/ports/misc/help2man' ... ===> help2man-1.36.4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for help2man-1.36.4_1 ===> help2man-1.36.4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/Locale/gettext.pm - found ... *BUT*, in subsequent port updates/upgrades, it looks for the p5-Locale-gettext* module. looking in source, cd /usr/ports/misc/help2man grep p5-Locale-gettext * Makefile:BUILD_DEPENDS= ${SITE_PERL}/${PERL_ARCH}/Locale/gettext.pm:${PORTSDIR}/devel/p5-Locale-gettext Makefile:RUN_DEPENDS= ${SITE_PERL}/${PERL_ARCH}/Locale/gettext.pm:${PORTSDIR}/devel/p5-Locale-gettext and verifying in my system, module_info Locale::gettext Name: Locale::gettext Version: 1.05 Directory: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach File: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/Locale/gettext.pm Core module: no there's no legitimate reason why it should NOT be looking for the *correctly installed* gettext dependency in site_perl path ... but, the fact remains that it isn't. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 19:08:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F4F16A420 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1D613C481 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40A51CC38 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:08:54 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:08:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200709021440.l82Ee9Cb001675@freefall.freebsd.org> <20070902172729.GD59826@arved.priv.at> <70f41ba20709021112p26024a1clc918963f5791a03f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <70f41ba20709021112p26024a1clc918963f5791a03f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709022108.52850.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: ports/115885: misc/help2man: help2man ignores installed gettext perl mod; insists on stale p5-* dependency X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:08:56 -0000 On Sunday 02 September 2007 20:12:03 snowcrash+freebsd wrote: > hi, > > > You have perl modules installed, that have no corresponding installed > > FreeBSD port. > > i do not use BSDPAN -- it's sloppy about its dependency mgmt. > > as i do on every other os/platform, i use ONLY "native" cpan/cpanp. > > i have dozens of cpan-installed perl-modules. cpan/cpanp manage the > dependencies just fine. Except for apps in the ports, because cpan/cpanp can not register *port* dependencies. RUN_DEPENDS does not mean "check if this file exists", it means "register a dependency on this port". What it does is: 1) check if the port is installed and if not install it. 2) add a line @pkgdep portname-version to $PKGDB/portname-version/+CONTENTS 3) add a line @DEPORIGIN:category/origin to $PKGDB/portname-version/+CONTENTS 4) add a line portname-version to $PKGDB/depname-version/+REQUIRED_BY If you wanna get rid of this problem, you could use an AFTER_INSTALL hack in pkgtools.conf to undo 2)-4). Messy, but works. Much cleaner is to just use the ports system p5-*. It does it's job very well and since you're familiar with cpan/cpanp I'm sure you'll have no problem installing modules that might not exist in the freebsd ports into a directory *outside* the ports hierarchy (/usr/local) and add this to the module search path. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 19:13:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E4C16A419; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:13:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobez@tobez.org) Received: from heechee.tobez.org (heechee.tobez.org [194.255.56.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246F413C45E; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobez@tobez.org) Received: by heechee.tobez.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5C0DB12543A; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 20:53:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 20:53:39 +0200 From: Anton Berezin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070902185339.GC3576@heechee.tobez.org> Mail-Followup-To: Anton Berezin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "arved@freebsd.org" , perl@freebsd.org References: <200709021440.l82Ee9Cb001675@freefall.freebsd.org> <70f41ba20709020946k7e5d3c55xba93f379bc8723a3@mail.gmail.com> <20070902172729.GD59826@arved.priv.at> <70f41ba20709021112p26024a1clc918963f5791a03f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <70f41ba20709021112p26024a1clc918963f5791a03f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Powered-By: FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/ Cc: "arved@freebsd.org" , perl@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/115885: misc/help2man: help2man ignores installed gettext perl mod; insists on stale p5-* dependency X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:13:23 -0000 On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 11:12:03AM -0700, snowcrash+freebsd wrote: > as i do on every other os/platform, i use ONLY "native" cpan/cpanp. > > i have dozens of cpan-installed perl-modules. cpan/cpanp manage the > dependencies just fine. > the problem is in the case of 'help2man'. > > the port-install of help2man *DOES* use the cpan-installed gettext > perl-module correctly, > there's no legitimate reason why it should NOT be looking for the > *correctly installed* gettext dependency in site_perl path ... > > but, the fact remains that it isn't. Sorry, but I am afraid that if you insist on not using Perl modules installed via ports this means you cannot expect any ports depending on Perl modules to work. It might be fixable in this particular instance (did you provide a patch in your PR? thought so...), but you cannot expect it to work in general. Cheers, \Anton. -- We're going for 'working' here. 'clean' is for people with skills... -- Flemming Jacobsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 19:30:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6550716A419 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0951813C442 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so684564nzf for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:30:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lqwbqiHteFpQK0fqzNF7qjbvNUSKqpywKRRFh8KE2oM8G3yOzbbmOLBwgk8czcZrsaADk34Bunn990xFccM2AWcM3GdaOwtVtD8LIIqN70YKtroULOFTz9FENT1VhzRKPaQVNrQY5MDLaeXLcouJqQppzdmxFxMt08fYYiqbuyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QjwM2btXk95PgZZO7k7H64HUE2mzhRoJK/TG/HOuluoraeLanljMA+TWwv1CiAWZb+iek5eMSefyHgNmGAxXj2PVDRPyaZLc6eiZB2Zh+uQTtVOakQiZDCOGAt9LHbSoO6+wuOqZD3N10gmatqPchOYHI0sGxM/Z9XhRXzt/qeM= Received: by 10.142.142.16 with SMTP id p16mr192061wfd.1188761424685; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.78.21 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:30:24 -0700 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "takhoos@hotmail.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20709012017m181fe312s14f7d4f60f9ba295@mail.gmail.com> <200709021221.54268.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD time servers and Windows clients X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:30:26 -0000 It's much simpler than that. c:\>net time /setsntp:ntpserver.yourdomain.tld or, if you have more than one ntp server c:\>net time /setsntp:"ntp1.yourdomain.tld ntp2.yourdomain.tld" On 9/2/07, takhoos@hotmail.com wrote: > > Hi all, > I have one FreeBSD NTP server which syncs all my server clocks. Getting the NTP server running was a piece of cake following the instructions in the online handbook. Recently I was asked to sync a bunch of windows machines (10 of them) to my NTP server. Now I'm not a windows person, so I asked one of the windows people to figure out his side since my side was up and running. He wrote this little .bat file to run on the windows boxes to be sync'd. Its pretty straight forward....just save it as a .bat file (time.bat) and run it from your XP box. Make sure to enter your NTP IP address where the x's are below. It seems to work fine for us. Your mileage may vary. There may be better/easier ways of doing this, but this is what works ok for us.... > > Here's the .bat file....use it at your own risk.... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > @echo Updating Time Service.... > @echo. > @echo. > @echo off > w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx,0x8 /syncfromflags:manual > w32tm /config /update > @echo Restarting Time Service > @echo. > @echo. > net stop w32time > net start w32time > pause > cls > @echo Verify your Time Server's IP Address and SNTP Flag of "0x8" > @echo. > net time /querysntp > @echo. > @echo Exiting configuration > pause > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Joe > > _________________________________________________________________ > News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! > http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 19:33:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A8F16A417 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (ns.umpquanet.com [204.119.0.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B5013C45E for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: from ns.umpquanet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l82JX7qo080289; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:33:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Received: (from james@localhost) by ns.umpquanet.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l82JX6hw080288; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:33:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list@museum.rain.com) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:33:06 -0700 From: James Long To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20070902193306.GA79850@ns.umpquanet.com> References: <20070902012446.GA17048@ns.umpquanet.com> <46DA9BED.20804@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46DA9BED.20804@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Recent update to RELENG_6 creates lots of calcru warnings X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:33:08 -0000 On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 01:18:05PM +0200, Kris Kennaway wrote: > James Long wrote: >> I'm running FreeBSD RELENG_6 on a Compaq DL380 G2 dual PIII-1.4GHz with an >> SMP kernel. dmesg below. >> Prior to about August 12, the system had been quite stable. >> Since that time, I am finding lots of calcru warnings, which often >> cause system services to fail when they see unorthodox time shifts. >> Section 5.19 of the handbook appears not to be current any longer, >> suggesting setting kern.timecounter.method=1. >> kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254 also does not improve things. >> Other suggestions? >> Thanks, >> Jim >> Sep 1 18:00:30 ns sudo: james : TTY=ttyp0 ; >> PWD=/usr/local/www/sites/com.umpquanet/support ; USER=root ; >> COMMAND=/sbin/sysctl -w kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254 >> Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1343309 >> usec to 1178478 usec for pid 3663 (hpasmd) >> Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1274607 usec for >> pid 3660 (hpasmd) ... big snip ... > Does reverting to the older kernel work? If so, can you isolate which > commit caused the problem by doing a binary search of date ranges? This > should be easy to do since the rate of changes to RELENG_6 is low. > > Kris Please pardon the rookie question, but the machine is not blazingly fast to build (circa 90 minute world, 20 min. kernel). For the purposes of the binary search, may I build just the kernel, and would you suggest leaving the up-to-date world and running against a slightly older kernel as I test, or should I roll the world back to early August, and test against a slightly new kernel -- or will it matter? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 19:45:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9853116A41B for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0982A13C494; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <46DB12BE.1010608@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:45:02 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Long References: <20070902012446.GA17048@ns.umpquanet.com> <46DA9BED.20804@FreeBSD.org> <20070902193306.GA79850@ns.umpquanet.com> In-Reply-To: <20070902193306.GA79850@ns.umpquanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Recent update to RELENG_6 creates lots of calcru warnings X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:45:03 -0000 James Long wrote: > On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 01:18:05PM +0200, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> James Long wrote: >>> I'm running FreeBSD RELENG_6 on a Compaq DL380 G2 dual PIII-1.4GHz with an >>> SMP kernel. dmesg below. >>> Prior to about August 12, the system had been quite stable. >>> Since that time, I am finding lots of calcru warnings, which often >>> cause system services to fail when they see unorthodox time shifts. >>> Section 5.19 of the handbook appears not to be current any longer, >>> suggesting setting kern.timecounter.method=1. >>> kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254 also does not improve things. >>> Other suggestions? >>> Thanks, >>> Jim >>> Sep 1 18:00:30 ns sudo: james : TTY=ttyp0 ; >>> PWD=/usr/local/www/sites/com.umpquanet/support ; USER=root ; >>> COMMAND=/sbin/sysctl -w kern.timecounter.hardware=i8254 >>> Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1343309 >>> usec to 1178478 usec for pid 3663 (hpasmd) >>> Sep 1 18:02:44 ns kernel: calcru: negative runtime of -1274607 usec for >>> pid 3660 (hpasmd) > > ... big snip ... > >> Does reverting to the older kernel work? If so, can you isolate which >> commit caused the problem by doing a binary search of date ranges? This >> should be easy to do since the rate of changes to RELENG_6 is low. >> >> Kris > > Please pardon the rookie question, but the machine is not blazingly > fast to build (circa 90 minute world, 20 min. kernel). For the > purposes of the binary search, may I build just the kernel, and would > you suggest leaving the up-to-date world and running against a > slightly older kernel as I test, or should I roll the world back to > early August, and test against a slightly new kernel -- or will it > matter? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You should only need to rebuild the kernel when searching. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 19:46:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9032216A41B for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cthala@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B52F13C461 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 19:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cthala@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so4560700pyb for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:46:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ErKeM8rE2xDKbq/Gswfw8jTzbSUfjj6QGJpwLD2Fyx6bxrQnvOrB+Dw8AGUU+DhR4kegmca2LygMKaLlaN/VDDWcRI7E7ZBqWPgXGqNfL1PrUNQjyBFYnHyizDqSzqOkzAYYyGX4VciapXf3TyEQHIr6IDEIHm02qnIHVQi0bGs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SFbdxzRqMUvoRLhFEZExNMGrSmc53IV1JB8A+2JifJJhZlNZxgY8WoEVSELieJZUIqVNtzacTc42wkNFJ8oygGfy5ICg/FDXUqqLZOAumXsGYJyg4acsk6Iab1aaZmoOihWw5o/Bb/1l286t4aTaPJK5rBSSgbshAtJiU6OZHvI= Received: by 10.64.250.7 with SMTP id x7mr6896046qbh.1188762381516; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.27.1 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <77647f500709021246m159b2146s793a185d766d77a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:46:21 -0400 From: "C Thala" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: vlc won't play region encoded DVDs (fixed) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:46:22 -0000 On 8/16/07, Chandhee Thala wrote: > Most of the American DVDs I try to play gets a region encoding error > and quits. I have no problems with foreign DVDs (from other > countries). Well, it turned out that this region encoding error was a huge red herring. I was about to flash the firmware on my machine's built-in DVD drive to change the encoding when I decided to try an external DVD drive that I know for sure played Region 1 DVDs (or at least, it did in Windows). Lo and behold, it had the same problem. Turns out that the perms on the drive were 640, making it 666 fixed the problem. Weird. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 20:00:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6B016A419 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 20:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3966613C468 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 20:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 02 Sep 2007 15:33:06 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id JBF41308; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-209-180.c3-0.bkl-ubr2.sbo-bkl.ma.static.cable.rcn.com (HELO sentinelchicken.net) ([207.172.209.180]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 02 Sep 2007 15:33:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 77382 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2007 19:33:02 -0000 Received: from aeryn.skepsi.net (HELO crichton.skepsi.net) (10.0.0.101) by aeryn.skepsi.net with SMTP; 2 Sep 2007 19:33:02 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 77379 invoked by uid 1000); Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:33:02 -0000 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:33:02 -0400 From: Jason Morgan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070902193302.GA77131@sentinelchicken.net> References: <72d64df10709020831q7a4276c0l68f61027d2afbba0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <72d64df10709020831q7a4276c0l68f61027d2afbba0@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090202.46DB0FEE.0063,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-12-09 10:45:40, dmn=5.3.14/2007-05-31 Subject: Re: xfce4 and 6.2: dbus-daemon is using 100% cpu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:00:52 -0000 On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 11:31:48AM -0400, Charlie wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm running 6.2-RELEASE on two systems (a Pentium 4 and a dual Athlon), and > whenever I log into Xfce4, I notice that a process called "dbus-daemon" is > invoked and eats up 100% of the CPU when no other processes are running. > > If another process is running, dbus-daemon only hogs about 50% of the CPU, > but this is still frustrating. If, for example, I am compiling a port, > dbus-daemon takes about 50% of my CPU time, leaving only half the > processor's time for compiling. > > I am fairly new to xfce, and googling the issue hasn't helped me out. Any > ideas? How can I fix dbus so it doesn't use so much CPU, or how can I > disable it completely? I know it is used for inter-application > communication, but I'm not entirely sure I need it (I don't see any adverse > effects when I kill it manually). > > I don't see anything unusual in /var/log/messages, nor any errors in > ~/.xsession-errors. > > Thanks for the help, > > Charlie I've run into this before (along with other dbus/Thunar issues) and it was only fixed by building XFCE from source. Installing from the package has always caused problems for me. I run XFCE on three workstations -- though I run -STABLE -- all of them had the same problem. I know, not much help. Cheers, ~Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 21:07:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944AA16A418 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cblasius@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460DF13C45D for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cblasius@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k4so1036990nfd for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:07:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=sHeqwmIrwCRZ0UdkMnTO4aFx28NvFCJgVKKq89efgvKUaJs0hPxXIO2q4NW+klh133j8axVmk+WPWYS76YshR9Cv+H4Fluq7LJT5nyVQdTCmkEeqVACQc67Q1wWdCebrZtcKxJaOG3Q0cupelZn0hg8KrItzJ30/iE/6GEMTbNo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=Ho4CMhVjZ0f+t/YsLEuhqjGDrw5fA+bwzmJ8eOKRN3ngPdOPTNdfFn9OSBgut+eEXQPWqPpY/+I2ucvqCitfOImnG+VY277OnswJr3sPrSp4BwQceaZ9OL9K38eUScH5EqamOc9/PuM/tiByYZzq5pDBzIFzaNlJi2j1FMbkUg0= Received: by 10.86.58.3 with SMTP id g3mr2812740fga.1188767251853; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xdsl-5405.zgora.dialog.net.pl ( [84.40.169.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm4464046fks.2007.09.02.14.07.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:07:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Zbigniew Komarnicki To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 23:07:26 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709022307.26960.cblasius@gmail.com> Subject: Krusader - [Shift + Delete] and SFTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:07:33 -0000 Hello, I have two problems: 1. Problem =========== I want to ask, how to set in Krusader 1.80.0 key binding or action such: [Shift] + [Delete] -> delete file permanently This is not default under FreeBSD, why? On the page: http://krusader.sourceforge.net/handbook/basic.html#deleting I'm reading that: "Deleting files/directories is done by selecting them and pressing F8 or Delete. By defaultit will be moved to KDE's Trash, Shift+Delete will delete the file permanently." But when I'm looking on shortcat in Krusader in FreeBSD: Settings -> Configure Shortcuts and then Action Shortcut Alternate Cut to Clipboard Ctrl+X Shift+Delete Delete F8 Why this is that done, that [Shift+ Delete] is binding to action "Cut to Clipboard"? I also cannot find option as "Delete permanently". Of course I can reasign Shift+Delete to action "Delete" as alternace shortcut, but this don't delete file permanently, but move file to Trash. I can only delete file permanently from poupmenu, where there are two option: "Delete" and "Move to Trash" (and others of course). 2. Problem ========= Why I cannot connect by ssh (sftp) to other machine? Under Debian I can. Please check what I am trying to do: Tools -> New Net Connections ... then Protocol: sftp:// Host: a.b.c.d Port: 22 user and password and then click Connect. Then I obtain: "Error encountered while talking to ssh." and then I obtain second error: "Unknown error" "Error encountered while talking to ssh." It only work when I connect by protocol "fish://" Why? Why protocol "sftp://" does not work? As I mention earlier under Linux it work. I'm sorry for my English, and I'm sorry for the details, but it should work exactly as stated in Krusader handbook, no mater what this is Linux or Unix it should works as expected. Please for help with this issues or comments, why this is that. I'm using FreeBSD 6.2, Krusader from ports (x11-fm/krusader). Best regards, Zbigniew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 21:23:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B1116A417 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B94713C461 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 21:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48E01CC38 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:23:20 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 23:23:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200709022307.26960.cblasius@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200709022307.26960.cblasius@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709022323.18329.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: Krusader - [Shift + Delete] and SFTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:23:21 -0000 On Sunday 02 September 2007 23:07:26 Zbigniew Komarnicki wrote: > Hello, > > I have two problems: > > Action Shortcut Alternate > Cut to Clipboard Ctrl+X Shift+Delete > Delete F8 > > Why this is that done, that [Shift+ Delete] is binding to action "Cut to > Clipboard"? Part of unix history: ctrl-c in consoles is the default SIGINT (interrupt) signal, ctrl-v is used type literal escaped chars hence, copying is done with shift+insert/delete. As for the keybindings and your second problem, that's application specific and since I don't use krusader I can't help ya there. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 22:12:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D1F16A41A for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 22:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marufos@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DB113C48E for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 22:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marufos@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1749617waf for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:12:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IpoVwoIHuFI6+8hb7lry3Z/xrlpv1he2hTALh37bDdpOEToTd7vABJLv8f6N1wCrdB+zQWS5j9xYD7wFyptAm8Kr9sA3uNFAN5F9URxgV1z3ikYgd5gjtyX5DSmItFrfNLpPR9Wz7wSVIi7jiw2fmU+Vcu9ma2VDjgPKzKdPt0k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DDB64JYpw2qxDwkL2RpmtHz5xNBN94yuObS9BbuQ9QJiQ57GgGrxr2QC7ZL5NfWlm7MMMfl/jId5OcGg6GPTgTS3eUEYM1hv91JbLwl62Ehx+6KuM/FzBDo5xFwqMQGB0fLB2ZemETn47dxBsOjVO+K6IxWDamGJHm/C4jGI+RM= Received: by 10.114.76.1 with SMTP id y1mr2578739waa.1188771151406; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.24.8 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8d954c40709021512h69442db2r4718b2e3e22dc2fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:12:31 -0500 From: "Emanuel Marufo" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <46D7AED5.2010609@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070831005536.GB25621@datapipe.com> <8d954c40708301813q361a3e5du7cf015de683d4dd2@mail.gmail.com> <8d954c40708301823p364f0c23i8f566ea033a217d@mail.gmail.com> <20070831074217.N9493@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <46D7AED5.2010609@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Tunning Freebsd for clustering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 22:12:36 -0000 Ok gays here is the configuration of mounts: Centos: /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 / ext3 defaults 1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /sys sysfs defaults 0 0 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 swap swap defaults 0 0 192.168.0.254:/home/alumnos /home/alumnos nfs defaults 0 0 hdparm -tT /dev/sda /dev/sda: Timing cached reads: 12260 MB in 2.00 seconds = 6130.93 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 174 MB in 3.00 seconds = 57.95 MB/sec FBSD 6.2: /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad0s1e /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1f /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1d /var ufs rw 2 2 192.168.0.254:/home/profesores /home/profesores nfs rw 0 0 192.168.0.254:/home/alumnos /home/alumnos nfs rw 0 0 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 diskinfo -t /dev/ad0 /dev/ad0 512 # sectorsize 164696555520 # mediasize in bytes (153G) 321672960 # mediasize in sectors 319120 # Cylinders according to firmware. 16 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. Seek times: Full stroke: 250 iter in 5.309058 sec = 21.236 msec Half stroke: 250 iter in 3.716832 sec = 14.867 msec Quarter stroke: 500 iter in 6.108698 sec = 12.217 msec Short forward: 400 iter in 3.142779 sec = 7.857 msec Short backward: 400 iter in 2.694669 sec = 6.737 msec Seq outer: 2048 iter in 0.180814 sec = 0.088 msec Seq inner: 2048 iter in 0.203852 sec = 0.100 msec Transfer rates: outside: 102400 kbytes in 1.707093 sec = 59985 kbytes/sec middle: 102400 kbytes in 1.873011 sec = 54671 kbytes/sec inside: 102400 kbytes in 3.016051 sec = 33952 kbytes/sec From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 23:02:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8B416A419 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 23:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: from web34615.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34615.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CC2413C465 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 23:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 6038 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Sep 2007 23:01:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=wHNtf8uMmGQXkwzuQSlgzLtWKwHt/eyBhNUPBEnFBC/+4z6DolfqpiTu27U1H+xJ2hAOyx70GZIc71BLgUsgVvpSF7TDX/7PZTQysQIT9BDaVjoEIscV9B9DkONiNnvXiXXVSp7Q5mXb4VwrDlmeVHVy43exJg5WDPsEX7oa+OU=; X-YMail-OSG: 6lZfyR8VM1lJRJm1neIvgLgoT0Jd7SAeiUCEML6tNuBAy_WV5sdFpejnEofxPTVGCUlQJIP2uPJUsLiAh8c0wAZtKmczJlOoBpAV8T3fxCwNJMRmT8zPN_m4n98ijA-- Received: from [67.101.218.14] by web34615.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:01:32 PDT Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:01:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070902115950.CE21D16A476@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <807865.5819.qm@web34615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: how to change isc-dhcp3-server replies? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:02:01 -0000 For some reason they are no longer showing up in tcpdump? I can see the DHCP discover and the DHCP offers, but can't get tcpdump to output them? DHCPDISCOVER from AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:AA via xl0 DHCPOFFER on 192.168.0.13 to AA:AA:AA:AA:AA:AA (w2k-box) via xl0 This happens 4 times, but I can get tcpdump to output the offer. Using tcpdump -netvvvi xl0 -t udp port 67 or udp port 68 Not sure what is going on now. Joe > Ok, no so true. I am watching tcpdump output from the two binaries. The > old binary sends its reply to 255.255.255.255, while the new one sends its > reply to 192.168.0.15. Same config file and I tried the always-broadcast > flag, and it only sets the bit for the client, but the server still > broadcasts its reply to the client on the subnet mask. > > Old client reply (ml.. is server af is client): > > 1188694380.961642 ml:ml:ml:ml:ml:ml > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype IPv4 > (0x0800), length 342: (tos 0x10, ttl 16, id 0, offset 0, flags [none], > proto: UDP (17), length: 328) 192.168.0.15.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: > BOOTP/DHCP, Reply, length: 300, xid:0x77915dc3, flags: [Broadcast] (0x8000) > Your IP: 192.168.0.13 > Client Ethernet Address: af:af:af:af:af:af [|bootp] > > new client does not do this and clients do not get their ip address. I read > somewhere that linux had a problem doing this in 2.2 kernels and it has > something to do with the routing table in linux. Not sure what is going on > here, but the routing table looks fine. So what does the tcpdump exchange look like with the new binary and the always-broadcast flag? And we're talking server binaries, right? --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 2 23:38:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544CC16A418 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 23:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1A113C45D for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 23:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so1410789mue for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:37:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QcwJFSHOK1wNDKd4puI3U1TOjaEzEvw9N0bA+58Uwd75sqUL6dL0ncz3aCWiqkTCqUQXaFSRWyNofKGYT88J59Tpda+IU3kW74JugPCDHdjeaJq/kQ3kHlDmyaxOoVHEkOUkpN8yQWvCmYngD+P3IcyXPTkAUc7BNDKy2BV9nP4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=isAJjetPzv5DVStOBenQctk99rjb/lRyEPvvGMW6RF2y91XFgFaubA5fsULeO+UH5R+AAwBn4zmtRz5WFz5tw4X9KxVvuDzn/WYP6XSwRcg3FCVGpQWJUlkGC+6M+54JFlEjXeIGUqoBJPBI55X4satb7q+aF2H5PCyFcR4FuFg= Received: by 10.86.93.17 with SMTP id q17mr2920188fgb.1188776270559; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.9.7 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:37:49 -0500 From: "Andrew Gould" To: mchauber@gmx.net In-Reply-To: <200709021356.23513.mchauber@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> <46DA9AA5.8030904@otenet.gr> <200709021356.23513.mchauber@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:38:16 -0000 On 9/2/07, Michael Hauber wrote: > > > I'm in the process of backup, and will be installing ubuntu shortly. Like > one > of the repliers stated, I too feel somewhat guilty... But I'll be back > one > of these days. > > Thanks, all. > > > Mike > > Don't feel guilty. Keep a FreeBSD server running at home while you travel! You can backup your data securely and use it remotely via tightvnc. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 00:21:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EA916A417 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A8413C467 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46667FE8 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 20:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by slider.shadypond.com (postoffice) with ESMTP id 029FBB65B5 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:21:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:21:30 +0000 References: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> <200709021356.23513.mchauber@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709030021.30393.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:21:54 -0000 On Sunday 02 September 2007 23:37:49 Andrew Gould wrote: > > Don't feel guilty. Keep a FreeBSD server running at home while you travel! > You can backup your data securely and use it remotely via tightvnc. > > Andrew There must be some trick to accessing a FreeBSD server via VNC. I have done it on Linux but I could not get it to work in FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 01:42:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5470D16A418 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 01:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A2813C459 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 01:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IS0wt-0007p7-7I for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:41:56 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1IS0wi-0007oh-Ng; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:41:44 -0700 Message-ID: <46DB6553.9040805@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:37:23 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pollywog , questions@freebsd.org References: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> <200709021356.23513.mchauber@gmx.net> <200709030021.30393.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> In-Reply-To: <200709030021.30393.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:42:34 -0000 > There must be some trick to accessing a FreeBSD server via VNC. > I have done it on Linux but I could not get it to work in FreeBSD. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > There are no tricks? You just install VNC. Then type vncserver and you will guided to create password and given server extension. So for instance if your server name is oko.net and vnc client number 1 you will access it with vncviewer oko.net:1 To customize your vnc experience file .vnc/xstartup must be edited. You can specify Window Manager or Desktop. Your firewall must be adjusted as well. I am watching this thread and wondering why are we discussing Ubuntu and Linux on this forum. Don't you guys have your own forum to discuss. PC-BSD is far easier to configure than Ubuntu. It is much more solid.We have Ubuntu as a Desktop OS at Department of Mathematics at the University or Arizona. It is full of problems and we have six very good system administrators that also run our Debian servers flawlessly. By the way Ubuntu has a problem with keyboard mapping in VNC mode. So it is useless unless you run 6.04 version or older. This seems to me as feeding a troll. If somebody wants to use Ubuntu, OS X or Windows it is their choice but issues related to that operating systems should not be discussed hire. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 01:45:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C2816A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 01:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdprakash@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6ED13C442 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 01:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdprakash@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so770193rvb for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:44:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=CB4hcf12LKGgKaWTChAiwCxQzT1Jq+iE5uUTgOW7u+J4mD+mu46qNEZ07dP1GB7MkRr8bVPasTc7wC+PCQ1L8AHnflz1g8tcVqsgpVTDD0j7D5A+tqp9F1PQ853IHaAkmjvqxVHUfik0RwevACQCN71eDDSAIK7KYrTdb/rLt+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=UCZcuFnQlUwfBqam1CsCxmplhYYmklKRUteu8fqKAjpSZ2T4afZCFR0drorClx0hOjQw6jy0+dvFYDRebH9chuUbthlzMdL79/taz0C8wvvx+0sk0qwHDwCmZYd40k0QAfR0e1UV5WoMKS0/X4GM2z3CgZHQ7h1/FtuXhq3SKfA= Received: by 10.142.77.11 with SMTP id z11mr204022wfa.1188783888915; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.158.2 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1428d0e80709021844t5daead33j4ed3d32fbf2c33a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 07:29:48 +0545 From: "Prakash Poudyal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: My Proxy Server(Squid) in FreeBSD 5.4 used to be hang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:45:04 -0000 Hello Everybody, I have IBM Server which consists of FreeBSD 5.4 and its consist of Squid for running proxy server. After running for 2 or 3 days it canonot be ping the server and also does provide the service but you know when I go and access that server directly it start to work. It would not be hang , it start to work. I donot what is its problem. So please could give me some idea related to it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 01:54:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E4716A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 01:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E19C13C47E for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 01:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so1444106mue for ; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:53:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=H68TvR+hEcIXGtXci4Xsoa6vX6IdYpXhhg4Nz6Z/oCxvICjFiWqysJ1NkbtTGCKHOTkK8TiLSO04hTxVdAhAEQQ+f3PDgXDrujcjN4bAo28ErVLACO/24dAswBjf4TvZu1uPxCUbxgwyoY8Dwx0VcwPdtm6thm/TjR1fWsTf53w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PhB3fdwa09/OyvpdYPAvsMM8mUtkPiImsxYSb6ZsatYKWN2DUQkdPpVk286fbZTqQ9aTQ8bg4KMxtbXKWFEzC9vT5GTAt1NBB8ibKVsQaFmekMfJ7N41AFXSwG4UsH2Jvuicw3+5PtQHGP31+eVhMENpgM1tNQ0KP1dVICPAwZk= Received: by 10.86.23.17 with SMTP id 17mr2997353fgw.1188783990855; Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.9.7 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 20:46:30 -0500 From: "Andrew Gould" To: Pollywog In-Reply-To: <200709030021.30393.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> <200709021356.23513.mchauber@gmx.net> <200709030021.30393.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:54:09 -0000 On 9/2/07, Pollywog wrote: > > On Sunday 02 September 2007 23:37:49 Andrew Gould wrote: > > > > > Don't feel guilty. Keep a FreeBSD server running at home while you > travel! > > You can backup your data securely and use it remotely via tightvnc. > > > > Andrew > > There must be some trick to accessing a FreeBSD server via VNC. > I have done it on Linux but I could not get it to work in FreeBSD. > _______________________________________________ > I've had good luck with both vnc and tightvnc. The only "tricks" that I can think of are remembering the right window/port and allowing the ports through the firewall. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 03:24:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C9A16A418 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 03:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCFD13C46A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 03:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4338049 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 22:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by slider.shadypond.com (postoffice) with ESMTP id 4456EB65B5 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 02:19:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 02:19:40 +0000 References: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> <200709030021.30393.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <46DB6553.9040805@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <46DB6553.9040805@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709030219.40552.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 03:24:18 -0000 On Monday 03 September 2007 01:37:23 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > There must be some trick to accessing a FreeBSD server via VNC. > > I have done it on Linux but I could not get it to work in FreeBSD. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > There are no tricks? You just install VNC. Then type vncserver and you > will guided to > create password and given server extension. So for instance if your > server name is oko.net and vnc client number 1 you will access it with > vncviewer oko.net:1 > To customize your vnc experience file .vnc/xstartup must be edited. You > can specify Window Manager or Desktop. Your firewall must be adjusted as > well. > Thanks, that describes what I have done. I will try again after the next time I update ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 03:24:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E613416A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 03:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD30C13C474 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 03:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80D2806E for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 22:20:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by slider.shadypond.com (postoffice) with ESMTP id 556FDB65B5 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 02:20:48 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 02:20:47 +0000 References: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> <200709030021.30393.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709030220.47785.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 03:24:18 -0000 On Monday 03 September 2007 01:46:30 Andrew Gould wrote: > On 9/2/07, Pollywog wrote: > > On Sunday 02 September 2007 23:37:49 Andrew Gould wrote: > > > Don't feel guilty. Keep a FreeBSD server running at home while you > > > > travel! > > > > > You can backup your data securely and use it remotely via tightvnc. > > > > > > Andrew > > > > There must be some trick to accessing a FreeBSD server via VNC. > > I have done it on Linux but I could not get it to work in FreeBSD. > > _______________________________________________ > > I've had good luck with both vnc and tightvnc. The only "tricks" that I > can think of are remembering the right window/port and allowing the ports > through the firewall. I did not use TightVNC, but some other VNC. I will try it again, with TightVNC thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 03:27:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B07016A417; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 03:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180D913C46E; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 03:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D30B46D56; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:16:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 94483-10; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:16:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fserv.hub.org (blk-89-241-126.eastlink.ca [24.89.241.126]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B23CB46CD8; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:16:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by fserv.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF8FE7B7A; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:16:29 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 00:16:04 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, users@lists.dragonflybsd.org, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, Thorsten Glaser , Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez Message-ID: <66D02AFE99E64EBC2AEAA23B@ganymede.hub.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 03:46:35 +0000 Cc: Edmondas Girkantas Subject: BSDstats Statistics for Aug, 2007 ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 03:27:36 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Although I should send this out more often then I do, last month was a particularly good month, with *everyone* except for NetBSD going up in numbers ... First off all, for those that aren't aware: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." Through interaction with several system administrators out there, from a security / anonymity perspective, we have tried to design things such that we save nothing in the database that could be used to compromise your servers ... no hostname, no IP ... The stats have also been designed to allow for multiple reporting by the same host each month (ie. rebooting your desktop), so it doesn't have to be run just on the first of the month. The web site, although it looks good, is incomplete at this time ... Anthony, our 'webmaster' has been a wee bit pre-occupied the past little while, but hopes to be able to dive back in again by the end of the month, and clean up some of the reports. To date, we have the following *BSD "distributions" reporting in: DesktopBSD DragonFly FreeBSD GNU/kFreeBSD MidnightBSD MirBSD NetBSD OpenBSD PC-BSD PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. And that's the "sales pitch" ... over the past few months, we've broken the 11,000k host mark ... Since we don't have any 'trend reports' on the site yet, please feel free to visit to see changes from July -> August ... But, overall for August: DesktopBSD +152.7% DragonFly + 5.3% FreeBSD + 2.7% GNU/kFreeBSD +150.0% MidnightBSD +100.0% MirBSD +190.0% NetBSD - 5.5% OpenBSD + 13.5% PC-BSD + 0.2% ======= + 5.1% If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more reporters :) - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG23x04QvfyHIvDvMRAg6zAJsFKf1PBwnid5Y2PHOmYDBA87ksuACeMrpt MGfVhInjKFbuYfi4c6GPbcA= =mzYj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 07:07:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C256316A419; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 07:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A899A13C4A8; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 07:07:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id RAA01582; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:07:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:07:15 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <46DA9AC9.9090804@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 07:07:40 -0000 On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:34:41 +0200 Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Per olof Ljungmark wrote: [..] > > > > amavisd_enable="YES" > > > > amavisd_ram="512m" > > > > > > > > and the line in rc.d/amavisd > > > > mdmfs -M -s ${amavisd_ram} -w vscan:vscan md /var/amavis/tmp || true > > > > for some reason creates a malloc based mfs > > > > > > > > Perhaps I should check this with the maintainer... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, malloc backing for md should be used in almost no situations. > > > > Am I right in thinking such situations would then be limited to diskless > > / flashdisk / embedded systems having no swap? Seems obvious, but .. > > Sort of. Swap backing will still work when you have no swap, and it's > still faster than malloc backing. The problem is that I think backing > store reservation ("-o reserve") doesn't work unless you have actual > swap to back everything, whereas with malloc backing it reserves in > memory. This means that it is easy to overcommit memory and the system > will probably panic when it suddenly finds no free memory for the md (as > in the original email). Ah. Swap backing with no swap configured sounded oxymoronic, and I was confused and left guessing by md(4) on 5.5-STABLE (March) till checking: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=md&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7-current&format=html which explains swap backed operation in one short but crucial sentence. But is running out of memory with swap-backed md (with no swap) likely to be any prettier than the panics from (unreserved) malloc backing? > Ideally if no swap was configured, swap backing would also reserve the > space in memory, and then I am not aware of any other reasons to > continue using malloc backing. By 'ideally' I guess you mean that it doesn't, yet? I hope to get a Soekris 4801 before too long, which will provide a chance to experiment (though I'll likely run it from one of my old 4GB laptop drives anyway). Also noted in passing: the 'auto' parameter to bsdlabel(8) used by one mdconfig(8) example is undocumented, though supported in bsdlabel.c Thanks, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 08:26:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993D916A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCC213C481; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <46DBC523.3040707@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:26:11 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:26:17 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Ian Smith wrote: > > > On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:34:41 +0200 Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > [..] > > > > > amavisd_enable="YES" > > > > > amavisd_ram="512m" > > > > > > > > > > and the line in rc.d/amavisd > > > > > mdmfs -M -s ${amavisd_ram} -w vscan:vscan md /var/amavis/tmp || true > > > > > for some reason creates a malloc based mfs > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps I should check this with the maintainer... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, malloc backing for md should be used in almost no situations. > > > > > > Am I right in thinking such situations would then be limited to diskless > > > / flashdisk / embedded systems having no swap? Seems obvious, but .. > > > > Sort of. Swap backing will still work when you have no swap, and it's > > still faster than malloc backing. The problem is that I think backing > > store reservation ("-o reserve") doesn't work unless you have actual > > swap to back everything, whereas with malloc backing it reserves in > > memory. This means that it is easy to overcommit memory and the system > > will probably panic when it suddenly finds no free memory for the md (as > > in the original email). > > Ah. Swap backing with no swap configured sounded oxymoronic, and I was > confused and left guessing by md(4) on 5.5-STABLE (March) till checking: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=md&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7-current&format=html > which explains swap backed operation in one short but crucial sentence. > > But is running out of memory with swap-backed md (with no swap) likely > to be any prettier than the panics from (unreserved) malloc backing? Probably not. No worse though. > > Ideally if no swap was configured, swap backing would also reserve the > > space in memory, and then I am not aware of any other reasons to > > continue using malloc backing. > > By 'ideally' I guess you mean that it doesn't, yet? I hope to get a > Soekris 4801 before too long, which will provide a chance to experiment > (though I'll likely run it from one of my old 4GB laptop drives anyway). Correct. > Also noted in passing: the 'auto' parameter to bsdlabel(8) used by one > mdconfig(8) example is undocumented, though supported in bsdlabel.c OK, you should submit a PR. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 09:33:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F5516A41B for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:33:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mike.Gerdes@philotech.de) Received: from philotech.de (philotech.de [87.230.16.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF22D13C442 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Mike.Gerdes@philotech.de) Received: (qmail 30091 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2007 11:33:06 +0200 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff 1.0-r4 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO mx00-001.de.philotech.net) (212.144.248.138) by philotech.de with SMTP; 3 Sep 2007 11:33:05 +0200 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:33:02 +0200 Message-ID: <00631F753141A64C85E12D3DD5C4D0C401AADCC2@mx00-001.de.philotech.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: My questions about freeBSD Thread-Index: AcfuDW+haeQxbp4ORY+neei2YTN74g== From: "Gerdes, Mike" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: My questions about freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:33:18 -0000 Hi all, here are my few questions about freeBSD, they mostly concern Robustness, Security, Auditing and Support. These questions always apply to the standard packages of FreeBSD. Any additional sources can't be used in the target environment, where the Os is planed to be used. Robustness: - Does FreeBSD offer Load-Balancinglike Piranha, with the standard packages? This can be supported be clustering software or by dispatching service requests to different instances of the same server. -=09 - Does it offer Failover with the standard packages? This can be supported be clustering software or by dispatching service requests to different instances of the same server. -=09 - Is it possible to make a persistent image of the status of the running OS? This is needed to freeze the system and late continue computation with the same internal state. -=09 - Is it possible to set the maximum allowed system resources for any process? To support real time system, some kind of partitioning or resource ensurance is needed. Security: - What security mechanisms does free BSD offer on the network and data link layer? In target solution the security of the other layers (transport and application) are handled by the running applications and the middleware. - Availability, Acess Control and Integrity are important. What does FreeBSD offer to support these kinds of security? - Is there a way to ensure Non-repudiation on a FreeBSD system? The system is security critical and might handle credit card information and other data to identify persons. Is it possible to link this data to user action on the OS level? Auditing: - Are tools provided for browsing audit trails? - Are security violations automatically logged? - Is it possible to add custom monitors to the standard auditing? - Are tools provided to create from auditing trails custom reports? - Is it possible to audit all transaction of the system or specify what transaction to audit? Support: - Is there commercial developer support for freeBSD available? -=09 - Do freeBSD drivers for ARINC 429 exist? -=09 - Do freeBSD drivers for the CAN bus exist? -=09 - Do freeBSD drivers for ADFX exist? I hope that you can help me to answer these questions. I have read about freeBSD and was not able to find the answers I was looking for. It might be that I read any paragraphs concerning these topics in the manuals, but if that is the case I can't remember them anymore and would be glad if you can point me to these paragraphs. Again many thanks in advance Mike PHILOTECH GmbH Dipl.-Ing. Mike Gerdes =20 Niederlassung Hamburg Bebelstrasse 44 21614 Buxtehude Tel.: +49 (0) 4161 50 20 0 Fax: +49 (0) 4161 50 20 20 Mike.Gerdes@Philotech.de www.philotech.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 10:00:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A476716A417 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C596F13C467 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l839xxcu046208; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:59:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l839xxRl046205; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:59:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:59:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Gerdes, Mike" In-Reply-To: <00631F753141A64C85E12D3DD5C4D0C401AADCC2@mx00-001.de.philotech.net> Message-ID: <20070903115816.L46146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <00631F753141A64C85E12D3DD5C4D0C401AADCC2@mx00-001.de.philotech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My questions about freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:00:10 -0000 cd /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ and please read things (begin in handbook). after completed reading you will not only get answers to your question, but understand that over half of your question can't be actually answered. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 04:20:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C2416A418 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 04:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DA0913C458 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 04:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 31169 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2007 03:53:56 -0000 Received: from bb121-7-106-120.singnet.com.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@121.7.106.120) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 3 Sep 2007 03:53:56 -0000 Message-ID: <46DB854F.7090700@pacific.net.sg> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:53:51 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <66D02AFE99E64EBC2AEAA23B@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <66D02AFE99E64EBC2AEAA23B@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:44:30 +0000 Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez , Thorsten Glaser , Edmondas Girkantas , users@lists.dragonflybsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats Statistics for Aug, 2007 ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:20:57 -0000 Hi, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > FreeBSD + 2.7% I hope the numbers are not this bad that my machine alone made your numbers jump his much. My FreeBSD was offline for a year. It was a hard time. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 12:00:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAFC16A41A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mermite@googlemail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0CB13C474 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mermite@googlemail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so864762rvb for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:59:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=sEliWtpigpKW+3PLZpHA/chVS241l4hub/qLw+Hlhzk60IH0vWgESgNxd38OScUt8VgT+7scOCNXADIL1wRplrBR0gTek3OUJgly9vPb4s7pO1830ReFpCY5cf2TNPghhjMF9gB3GB7pAlxu7JurkSWf+Zg+oWU+kjOLoAOXR3E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=XjpsVIWUUjTx+bqOhcTg4ZhnDnm/kinyKZBsCwdZO4dXHuTqO+HHUvEk2XpC8FyWHJjC23KPj6L1DKy2QmzIYg8EWFMAXQ3CH04oTDYgiYJKtWmWmDbrBbDWqeRmxInjGl8g5YSLVNr44oo04XpGC8zIXAzQG4SXwjxnGNLQ9XQ= Received: by 10.140.249.20 with SMTP id w20mr656650rvh.1188820787140; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.44.3 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 04:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:59:47 +0200 From: "mer mite" To: mermite@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:08:44 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Ethernet Bonding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:00:01 -0000 Hi All, I'm looking for a way to provide ethernet interface bonding in FreeBSD similar to ipmp in Solaris or just ethernet bonding in Linux. Don't want to do anything fancy. Just want a second interface to take over for one which has failed. Preferable would be a solution that doesn't require a specific configuration on our switches or routers. I have perused the www and have found multiple articles describing the procedure in HP-UX, Solaris, Linux, etc., but nothing for FreeBSD. Thanks in advance for your responses. Cheers, -Joe P.S. I hope the administrator is happier with this post than with my last. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 12:53:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83F016A41A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vps1.solepartners.com (vps1.solepartners.com [85.233.167.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4CB13C45A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: (qmail 25878 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2007 13:53:07 +0100 Received: from 150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net (HELO prawn.unsane.co.uk) (212.84.117.150) by vps1.solepartners.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2007 13:53:07 +0100 Message-ID: <46DC03B2.4010203@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:53:06 +0100 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070816) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Fwd: Re: Ethernet Bonding] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:53:37 -0000 Doh I meant to send this to the list but must have just hit reply, sorry. Vince mer mite wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm looking for a way to provide ethernet interface bonding in FreeBSD > similar to ipmp in Solaris or just ethernet bonding in Linux. Don't want to > do anything fancy. Just want a second interface to take over for one which > has failed. Preferable would be a solution that doesn't require a specific > configuration on our switches or routers. > > I have perused the www and have found multiple articles describing the > procedure in HP-UX, Solaris, Linux, etc., but nothing for FreeBSD. > > Thanks in advance for your responses. > It your switch supports spanning tree you could just use if_bridge (multiple members but have the IP assigned to the brige interface.) If your running -STABLE or can wait for 6.3/7 then there is if_lagg which can run int failover mode as well as aggregation mode. I've never actually tried either method though so YMMV. Vince > Cheers, > -Joe > > P.S. > > I hope the administrator is happier with this post than with my last. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 13:10:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B2416A418 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BBE13C461 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1380283wxd for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.89.5 with SMTP id m5mr3884369agb.1188824995671; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm3896867agc.2007.09.03.06.09.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 03 Sep 2007 06:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:10:01 -0400 To: User Questions Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <20070903115816.L46146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <00631F753141A64C85E12D3DD5C4D0C401AADCC2@mx00-001.de.philotech.net> <20070903115816.L46146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20070903090401.6CA0.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.31 [en] From: Gerard Subject: Re[2]: My questions about freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:10:35 -0000 On September 03, 2007 at 05:59AM Wojciech Puchar wrote: > cd /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ and please read things (begin in > handbook). > > after completed reading you will not only get answers to your question, > but understand that over half of your question can't be actually answered. Did you mean 'factually, rather than actually? All questions can be answered. The answer may not be what the questioner desires however. Even a simple, I don't know" is an answer. -- Gerard The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory. Paul Fix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 14:24:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032A316A421 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaela@maa-net.net) Received: from smtp-auth.no-ip.com (smtp-auth.no-ip.com [204.16.252.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA0313C48A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaela@maa-net.net) X-No-IP: maa-net.net@noip-smtp X-Report-Spam-To: abuse@no-ip.com Received: from mail.maa-net.net (c-24-128-198-3.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.128.198.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: maa-net.net@noip-smtp) by smtp-auth.no-ip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBE1BF01 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 07:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Toshiba_FBSD.maa-net.net (localhost.maa-net.net [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.maa-net.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l83E257p013227 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:02:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from michaela@maa-net.net) Message-ID: <46DC1434.3090801@maa-net.net> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:03:32 -0400 From: Michaela User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070829) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Weird FTP issue??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0000 Hi all, I was wondering if anyone can possibly explain or give their expertise with this bizarre/weird issue if you will that I've been having while using such commands as portsnap, portaudit, fetch, etc. First off, I'm running FreeBSD v6.1. I have three (Internet) servers running the same FreeBSD version. However, one of the servers has been giving me trouble and I can't decipher whether or not it's a FreeBSD related issue or something else altogether. On this one server, whenever I try to use "portaudit", "portsnap", "fetch", or whenever I try to upgrade ports and it needs to "fetch" the updates the connections ALMOST always "time out". But what's weird is that I don't have the issue on the other two FreeBSD servers when they need to use the same commands. I can SSH to this (problem) server, ping to-from it, and everything else. It's gotten to the point where I thought it was a FreeBSD problem so I completely reformatted and installed the O/S. However, it's STILL doing the same thing. Upon trying to install certain distribution sets through FTP media, I'd get an error about it (FreeBSD) not being able to get a connection with the remote FreeBSD server. After that, I even went as far as changing network cards and it's still doing it. Using "netstat" while trying to use the commands shows that it's sending a "SYN" flag to the remote server, but no connection is ever established. I have all three servers plugged into the same router/firewall and have done so for years with no problems. This is the first issue of its kind. I'd greatly appreciate any insight, help, explanation, or something. This is getting really aggrevating. THANK YOU in advance. -- Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 14:33:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3020716A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derrick@uniquestrength.net) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.192.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1488E13C465 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:33:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derrick@uniquestrength.net) Received: from mail.uniquestrength.net ([68.55.141.86]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20070903142300m11001206ae>; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:23:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.uniquestrength.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B2E5C34; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:21:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uniquestrength.net Received: from mail.uniquestrength.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.uniquestrength.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MvJP57lddkEd; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.109] (unknown [10.10.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.uniquestrength.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BA65C28; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:20:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Dantavious To: pneumann@gmail.com Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:22:22 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709031022.24028.derrick@uniquestrength.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Port: net/asterisk-addons X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:33:26 -0000 Hi, I am having problems compiling this port. Here is the output. Can you assist me with this issue. ===> Building for asterisk-addons-1.4.2 gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/net/asterisk-addons/work/asterisk-addons-1.4.2' gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/net/asterisk-addons/work/asterisk-addons-1.4.2/asterisk-ooh323c' gmake all-am gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/net/asterisk-addons/work/asterisk-addons-1.4.2/asterisk-ooh323c' source='src/chan_h323.c' object='chan_h323.lo' libtool=yes \ depfile='.deps/chan_h323.Plo' tmpdepfile='.deps/chan_h323.TPlo' \ depmode=gcc3 /usr/local/bin/bash ./config/depcomp \ /usr/local/bin/bash ./libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -I./ooh323c/src -I./ooh323c/src/h323 -I/usr/local/include -DGNU -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -D_COMPACT -c -o chan_h323.lo `test -f 'src/chan_h323.c' || echo './'`src/chan_h323.c rm -f .libs/chan_h323.lo cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -I./ooh323c/src -I./ooh323c/src/h323 -I/usr/local/include -DGNU -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -D_COMPACT -c src/chan_h323.c -MT chan_h323.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/chan_h323.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/chan_h323.lo src/chan_h323.c:71: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type src/chan_h323.c:91: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type src/chan_h323.c: In function `ooh323_new': src/chan_h323.c:261: error: incompatible types in assignment src/chan_h323.c:264: error: incompatible type for argument 1 of `ast_best_codec' src/chan_h323.c: In function `ooh323_write': src/chan_h323.c:974: error: invalid operands to binary & src/chan_h323.c: In function `print_codec_to_cli': src/chan_h323.c:2219: error: structure has no member named `framing' src/chan_h323.c: In function `ooh323_rtp_read': src/chan_h323.c:3246: error: invalid operands to binary != src/chan_h323.c:3249: error: incompatible types in assignment gmake[3]: *** [chan_h323.lo] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net/asterisk-addons/work/asterisk-addons-1.4.2/asterisk-ooh323c' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net/asterisk-addons/work/asterisk-addons-1.4.2/asterisk-ooh323c' gmake[1]: *** [chan_ooh323.so] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/net/asterisk-addons/work/asterisk-addons-1.4.2' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/net/asterisk-addons. v/r Derrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 15:10:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F7116A46B for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A02913C49D for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ISDZ6-000AXu-Bu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:10:12 -0400 Message-ID: <00f701c7ee3c$828cc320$6501a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:10:05 -0400 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: IPMI kernel object i/o error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:10:15 -0000 Hi all, I am trying to get ipmitool working on a Dell 1850. When I kldload the ipmi.ko, it seems to load fine but the dev device is = not being created. I can see this in the dmesg any time I try. If anyone can interprate this I wouold be greatful The ACPI driver cannot be loaded after boot. ipmi0: on isa0 ipmi0: KCS mode found at io 0xca8 alignment 0x4 on isa ipmi0: couldn't configure I/O resource device_attach: ipmi0 attach returned 6 ppc0: parallel port not found. sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 16:16:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937CD16A418 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cerejoster@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C00C13C48E for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cerejoster@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so902267rvb for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:16:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=uP/XhEeuf6yNRF2M1vs4YkyhutpimyAFmadIeivtPvdPhYp0hZQ89J5861wGFIQDIhUHrK5FkQjaCi5cyhzPiTlJpYazu61SiqUagfr7NR/uuSkluZdDwPJn8GEPVmu2Ziv5mq8iGAxLY4Eh4HE8aIPm+qGbZuM8sFdDRvU6pK4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=XF3uXX3M3b6YiO/JgtAORl4aBjCCfIO0U0HQeOwJCb2B3c3b/+FLtSerWxNR7Pt+YNYIq+afTwz0gPEKYhUHiEKilVTCuYXO6lbTfPLku3ctGwlLfZVeVA4zG7Veukeg1zPV9fyCV4OYaAuOtU24NszWQ3P0aLMM8PIS2CpegtE= Received: by 10.141.137.8 with SMTP id p8mr2005757rvn.1188834585071; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.87.12 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:49:45 -0400 From: "Eduardo Cerejo" To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: xmcd fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:16:43 -0000 I have been trying to compile xmcd on FreeBSD 6 stable and I'm getting this: : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xac2c): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xac35): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xac7e): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbControl_GetDiscInfo' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xacba): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xacdc): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xad22): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xad3e): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xadfa): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cddb_d/libcddbkey.a(cddbkey1.o)(.text+0x4a): In function `cddb_setkey': : undefined reference to `CddbControl_SetClientInfo' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/xmcd/work/xmcd-3.3.2/xmcd_d. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/xmcd/work/xmcd-3.3.2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/xmcd. I have never had this problem compiling xmcd. Or if someone could tell me where I can download the latest xmcd package, I found a few but they are old versions of xmcd and it won't install. Another alternative would be another cd player similar to xmcd the ones I've tried are very basic with no cddb access. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 16:30:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A1D16A420 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schneecrash@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC8013C4A8 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schneecrash@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so5037753pyb for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:30:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=YKl8yVJ0HUz4UrnXr1sbXHIkG7xN0OZPUMWCWLVqB8w9vU+ttcHSopjANZ8dUfA1U/XAjxql+z4DWx996+O7icF8khKGkqOuUH9SIjoP4f9Obow5vWpisF0j/dhMi51oCCBzf/4pBq/Mb/nw8kuXlGIbVsDthUkL4WIpRn22e8U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=UWy6ZUyUw2ZYNxg7URBv0B8GNyWw5nW3SlVhuVSX8dAmGelj5ImsjYGUDzyESg1xvZ/HTKQFGh4b9ho0DLt/twPZsN1+lHdsiRKR2kijqzl2KPo2bn9+Rwh++HzUmX9sNWQZ8rfs14YKRv3HsSe+HC5TUIUy4z+OUlWtz4EMjoA= Received: by 10.64.153.4 with SMTP id a4mr8564136qbe.1188837001751; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.206.14 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <70f41ba20709030930n4c02a4bexf948d64cf9da554c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:30:01 -0700 From: snowcrash+freebsd Sender: schneecrash@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net, arved@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 483ae83667823b1d Cc: Subject: Re: ports/115885: misc/help2man: help2man ignores installed gettext X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:30:03 -0000 arved@freebsd.org wrote: > Synopsis: misc/help2man incorrectly insists on "p5-*" dependency when already installed as CPAN module > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: arved > State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 3 08:36:07 UTC 2007 > State-Changed-Why: > It is unecessary to reopen another bug report, since you neither provide a patch nor convinced us that this should be a supported configuration. again, WHAT "supported configuration" are you talking about here? there's a properly installed perl-module. expecting freebsd ports of perl programs to correctly use perl-compliant module installs is, somehow, unreasonable? here's what i know/see. a freebsd port (help2man) (a) looks for Locale::gettext (b) finds Locale::gettext (c) uses Locale::gettext in the build THEN, *fails* to recognize the in-place dependency IT ALREADY LOOKED FOR & USED in updates of ports ... > BTW. Don't miss the helpful answer by "Mel" on freebsd-question. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=116026 Mel wrote: > Except for apps in the ports, because cpan/cpanp can not register *port* dependencies. > RUN_DEPENDS does not mean "check if this file exists", it means "register a dependency on this port". What it does is: > 1) check if the port is installed and if not install it. > 2) add a line @pkgdep portname-version to $PKGDB/portname-version/+CONTENTS > 3) add a line @DEPORIGIN:category/origin to $PKGDB/portname-version/+CONTENTS > 4) add a line portname-version to $PKGDB/depname-version/+REQUIRED_BY > > If you wanna get rid of this problem, you could use an AFTER_INSTALL hack in >pkgtools.conf to undo 2)-4). Messy, but works. > Much cleaner is to just use the ports system p5-*. It does it's job very well that's not been my experience -- but, that's not the argument here. i think it's not unreasonable to expect that "a perl-module is a perl-module is a perl-module". if it's properly installed -- and, in this case, it is, just like ALL my other perl-modules, then a port should treate it consistently/correctly. just like all my other ports do -- just NOT help2man. as for working around the problem ... the SIMPLEST solution is not to bother with "ports" system in this case, and do a manual install of help2man. but my goal was to be helpful & report a problem. > and since you're familiar with cpan/cpanp I'm sure you'll have no problem > installing modules that might not exist in the freebsd ports into a directory > *outside* the ports hierarchy (/usr/local) and add this to the module search > path. when help2man is installed via ports it *USES* the cpan-installed perl-module. cpanp -u gettext Locale::gettext module_info Locale::gettext Can't create Module::Info object for module 'Locale::gettext' at /usr/local/bin/module_info line 96. cd /usr/local/ports rm -rf gettext-* wget http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/P/PV/PVANDRY/gettext-1.05.tar.gz tar zxvf gettext-1.05.tar.gz # "#21625: Compilation under freebsd" # http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=21625 http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Attachment/243467/103618/gettext-freebsd.patch http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Attachment/243467/103621/gettext-MANIFEST cd /usr/local/ports/gettext-1.05 patch -p0 < ../P_gettext-freebsd.patch cp ../P_gettext-MANIFEST MANIFEST perl Makefile.PL make install module_info Locale::gettext Name: Locale::gettext Version: 1.05 Directory: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach File: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/Locale/gettext.pm Core module: no now, building help2man % portinstall help2man [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 176 packages found (-1 +0) (...) done] [Gathering depends for misc/help2man .......... done] ---> Installing 'help2man-1.36.4_1' from a port (misc/help2man) ---> Building '/usr/ports/misc/help2man' ... ===> help2man-1.36.4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/Locale/gettext.pm - found See? HERE it knows the dependency, AND finds it NOT SURPRISING, as, grep -i gettext /usr/ports/misc/help2man/Makefile BUILD_DEPENDS= ${SITE_PERL}/${PERL_ARCH}/Locale/gettext.pm:${PORTSDIR}/devel/p5-Locale-gettext RUN_DEPENDS= ${SITE_PERL}/${PERL_ARCH}/Locale/gettext.pm:${PORTSDIR}/devel/p5-Locale-gettext USE_GETTEXT= yes demonstrates that it, in fact, DOES look for a "normal" perl-module **BEFORE** looking for the p5-Locale-gettext port-install! ... ===> Compressing manual pages for help2man-1.36.4_1 ===> Registering installation for help2man-1.36.4_1 ===> Cleaning for help2man-1.36.4_1 [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 177 packages found (-0 +1) . done] and the build continues to a cussessful conclusion. pkg_info | grep help2man help2man-1.36.4_1 Automatically generating simple manual pages from program o pkg_info -rR help2man-1.36.4_1 Information for help2man-1.36.4_1: Depends on: Dependency: perl-threaded-5.8.8 Dependency: libiconv-1.9.2_2 Dependency: gettext-0.16.1_3 grep -i gettext `which help2man` my $have_gettext; require Locale::gettext; Locale::gettext->import; $have_gettext = 1; unless ($have_gettext) *gettext = sub { $_[0] }; sub _ { gettext @_ } my $fmt = gettext shift; die "$this_program: no locale support (Locale::gettext required)\n" unless $locale eq 'C' or $have_gettext; my $lsect = gettext $sect; NOTE, the only dependency is to, require Locale::gettext; i.e., NOT something port-specific, but rather "just" a properly-installed perl-module. help2man, in fact, EXECUTES correctly as well, e.g., help2man -v Option v requires an argument `help2man' generates a man page out of `--help' and `--version' output. Usage: help2man [OPTION]... EXECUTABLE -n, --name=STRING description for the NAME paragraph -s, --section=SECTION section number for manual page (1, 6, 8) -m, --manual=TEXT name of manual (User Commands, ...) -S, --source=TEXT source of program (FSF, Debian, ...) -L, --locale=STRING select locale (default "C") -i, --include=FILE include material from `FILE' -I, --opt-include=FILE include material from `FILE' if it exists -o, --output=FILE send output to `FILE' -p, --info-page=TEXT name of Texinfo manual -N, --no-info suppress pointer to Texinfo manual --help print this help, then exit --version print version number, then exit EXECUTABLE should accept `--help' and `--version' options although alternatives may be specified using: -h, --help-option=STRING help option string -v, --version-option=STRING version option string Report bugs to . so, to summarize: I installed Locale::gettext via cpan. Every other app/module/port/etc that usese it is "happy". help2man installs/executes just fine with the cpan-installed Locale::gettext. so everything on the build/install-side of the process is fine. but, DESPITE this, on, pkgdb --autofix --fix-lost pkgdb -F i get, ... ---> Checking the package registry database Stale dependency: help2man-1.36.4_1 -> p5-gettext-1.05_1 (devel/p5-Locale-gettext): Skipped. (running in non-interactive mode; specify -i to ask) ########### ## EXEC: pkgdb -F ---> Checking the package registry database Stale dependency: help2man-1.36.4_1 -> p5-gettext-1.05_1 (devel/p5-Locale-gettext): Install stale dependency? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes] no New dependency? (? to help): Delete this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes] yes Deleted. ######### ... which reoccurs at each/every update. I fail to see what's "correct" or "expected" about this. If help2man port not only does not USE the p5-gettext-1.05_1 install in it's own build, but, in fact LOOKS FOR and CORRECTLY USES the 'normal' perl-module, how is it "expected behavior" that on updates, it complains about stale dependency on p5-gettext-1.05_1? if you all think this is CORRECT behavior, just let me know one last time, and I'll leave you to "the way things are". Anton Berezin wrote: > Sorry, but I am afraid that if you insist on not using Perl modules > installed via ports this means you cannot expect any ports depending on Perl > modules to work. are you impkying that a perl module installed by ports is somehow different than one installed by perl/cpan itself? i'd bet the perl folks might have an interesting opinion about that ... > It might be fixable in this particular instance (did you provide a patch in > your PR? thought so...), but you cannot expect it to work in general. "thought so ...)," nice. that's helpful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 16:36:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E262E16A55C for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:36:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hexidigital@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902D013C461 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hexidigital@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so5040478pyb for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:36:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent; b=rTn1xgf4TRw0vkmYyYFjyxPCfrA0hBze+ylUGmycw5jDYpVoVn4paU0WUUSE0zdt4mjG6/02bD2BQiCe9/gZIErW3M/YxZex5dHPUM/lgXiSmFZix/zJgdVW10e+JW/w879z5o2CUJq+NJShPkbs/Q5VyPWQGBTyZ0E77KHS6Lk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent; b=iq1rzjWP5bPKFp0j9zLHTANjtnueFrv/VPQTE4XP3uPcikj8+QWOdD+rB4pDdl2JEFTxBs9Oq721v3QMLqqmUn6ZQye+lqE/KgF2b00YyrePEJhNYITcCoiypWEVI7SJcb21H2VOa4jmcB4NLtEgG8zp+agkI9Ss3JDHlTjcPc0= Received: by 10.35.117.5 with SMTP id u5mr6180859pym.1188837412790; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hexidigital.org ( [24.229.62.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w38sm4736204pyg.2007.09.03.09.36.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gbarber by hexidigital.org with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ISEvC-0000cn-2z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:37:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:37:06 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <20070903163706.GA769@orion.hexidigital.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: Lost console when exiting X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:36:55 -0000 Hi folks. I'm running 6.2-RELEASE, and recently installed Xorg. I've been using Fluxbox as my window manager, and everything has been working fine until recently. I cannot think of any major changes I've made to create this problem. Here's what happens. Once in a while (I can't reproduce the problem by doing anything specific), I exit X, and my TTY does not come back. I've verified the system has not crashed by SSHing in to the system -- where I can `startx`, and the X session resumes. I've tried [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[Backspace], which does kill the X session, but TTY does not resume as expected. I am using an nVidia GeForce 5500MX with the x11/nvidia-drivers, x11/nvidia-settings, and x11/nvidia-xconfig ports. Fluxbox and all Xorg dependencies are also installed from ports. (Yes, I did update my ports tree before installing.) The only change I've made to my xorg.conf was: Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection and the default mode for resolution. I've also disabled the above section, thinking it was a compositing problem, but that did not resolve it. Any ideas, or pointers on where to look would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 16:45:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1431516A4CE for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 630C413C478 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 15302 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2007 16:18:35 -0000 Received: from bb121-7-106-120.singnet.com.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@121.7.106.120) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 3 Sep 2007 16:18:33 -0000 Message-ID: <46DC33D8.9010404@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:18:32 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michaela References: <46DC1434.3090801@maa-net.net> In-Reply-To: <46DC1434.3090801@maa-net.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird FTP issue??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:45:19 -0000 Hi, did you also use different cable and different switch ports for this problematic machine? Yes, your problem sounds weird. Life told us so many times that things like this can happen. Erich Michaela wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering if anyone can possibly explain or give their expertise > with this bizarre/weird issue if you will that I've been having while > using such commands as portsnap, portaudit, fetch, etc. > > First off, I'm running FreeBSD v6.1. I have three (Internet) servers > running the same FreeBSD version. However, one of the servers has been > giving me trouble and I can't decipher whether or not it's a FreeBSD > related issue or something else altogether. > > On this one server, whenever I try to use "portaudit", "portsnap", > "fetch", or whenever I try to upgrade ports and it needs to "fetch" the > updates the connections ALMOST always "time out". But what's weird is > that I don't have the issue on the other two FreeBSD servers when they > need to use the same commands. > > I can SSH to this (problem) server, ping to-from it, and everything > else. It's gotten to the point where I thought it was a FreeBSD > problem so I completely reformatted and installed the O/S. However, > it's STILL doing the same thing. Upon trying to install certain > distribution sets through FTP media, I'd get an error about it (FreeBSD) > not being able to get a connection with the remote FreeBSD server. > > After that, I even went as far as changing network cards and it's still > doing it. Using "netstat" while trying to use the commands shows that > it's sending a "SYN" flag to the remote server, but no connection is > ever established. > > I have all three servers plugged into the same router/firewall and have > done so for years with no problems. This is the first issue of its kind. > > I'd greatly appreciate any insight, help, explanation, or something. > This is getting really aggrevating. > > > THANK YOU in advance. > > > -- Michael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 16:50:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F04C16A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from eunet.yu (smtpclu-1.eunet.yu [194.247.192.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F3F13C46E for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-223-251.eunet.yu [213.198.223.251]) by eunet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l83Go0aj002599; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:50:01 +0200 Message-Id: <200709031650.l83Go0aj002599@eunet.yu> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:50:08 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: "Eduardo Cerejo" In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_50,TW_XM,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: 0.1 Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xmcd fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:50:07 -0000 Hi Eduardo, On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:49:45 -0400 "Eduardo Cerejo" wrote: > I have been trying to compile xmcd on FreeBSD 6 stable and I'm > getting this: >=20 > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xac2c): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xac35): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xac7e): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbControl_GetDiscInfo' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xacba): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xacdc): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xad22): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xad3e): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xadfa): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cddb_d/libcddbkey.a(cddbkey1.o)(.text+0x4a): In function > `cddb_setkey': : undefined reference to `CddbControl_SetClientInfo' > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/audio/xmcd/work/xmcd-3.3.2/xmcd_d. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/audio/xmcd/work/xmcd-3.3.2. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/audio/xmcd. Please use this patch for patches: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dports/112876 and xmcd will compile. Please note the little correction below, or new file 'patch-aj' will appear in xmcd's port dir and not in files/. (BTW, you should always include an actual command that triggered error(s), not just error itself.) > I have never had this problem compiling xmcd. Or if someone could > tell me where I can download the latest xmcd package, I found a few > but they are old versions of xmcd and it won't install. Another > alternative would be another cd player similar to xmcd the ones I've > tried are very basic with no cddb access. Thanks. You didn't say what players you tried, but there are really many cd-players; maybe some of them are "basic" but there are a lot "advanced" ones. XMMS could be a good advanced lightweight choice with a lot of plugins; if you want something glimmering and huge, try amaroK. Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 16:50:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF6B16A417 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ecerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02A013C4CE for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ecerejo@optonline.net) Received: from ecerejo.netgear.com (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JNS00LPAW2EM220@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:19:59 -0400 From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <46DC342F.20109@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) Cc: Subject: xmcd fails to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:50:40 -0000 I have been trying to compile xmcd on FreeBSD 6 stable and I'm getting this: : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xac2c): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xac35): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xac7e): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbControl_GetDiscInfo' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xacba): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xacdc): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xad22): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xad3e): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xadfa): In function `cdinfo_urlcddb': : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' ../cddb_d/libcddbkey.a(cddbkey1.o )(.text+0x4a): In function `cddb_setkey': : undefined reference to `CddbControl_SetClientInfo' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/xmcd/work/xmcd-3.3.2/xmcd_d. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/xmcd/work/xmcd- 3.3.2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/audio/xmcd. I have never had this problem compiling xmcd. Or if someone could tell me where I can download the latest xmcd package, I found a few but they are old versions of xmcd and it won't install. Another alternative would be another cd player similar to xmcd the ones I've tried are very basic with no cddb access. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 16:56:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA2F16A41A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:56:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722A813C474 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:56:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 10713 invoked by uid 1002); 3 Sep 2007 16:56:07 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 6.824132 secs); 03 Sep 2007 16:56:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 3 Sep 2007 16:56:00 -0000 Message-ID: <46DC3CA0.2070100@ibctech.ca> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:56:00 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <46D58C7A.3070603@ibctech.ca> <200708301149.04157.nvass@teledomenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <200708301149.04157.nvass@teledomenet.gr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bonded multilink ADSL connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:56:08 -0000 > Do you have the two modems required for such a configuration? > Each link of the bond must get its ethernet interface. So, you > need two ethernet cards at least and two ADSL modems in bridging > mode. The configuration itself is pretty straightforward. Yes, I have more than the required number of modems, and same with NIC's ;) Essentially, I want to swap out my Cisco 2651 with the FreeBSD box with the hardware configuration you just described. It's either put the BSD box in to the 100Mbps connection and leave the Cisco in place on the ADSL connections and route between them when necessary, or what I really want is to replace the Cisco entirely if I can multi-link with FreeBSD. > If you cover the requirements, I can send you a working configuration. > Not necessarily an exact replicate of what you send, but close enough. I would very much appreciate a working config. I can easily adjust to my environment. Thanks! Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 16:57:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA01616A417 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koendewijs@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C22613C48E for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from koendewijs@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Sep 2007 16:57:22 -0000 Received: from 84-107-168-5.dsl.quicknet.nl (EHLO [192.168.123.70]) [84.107.168.5] by mail.gmx.net (mp054) with SMTP; 03 Sep 2007 18:57:22 +0200 X-Authenticated: #25482162 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+m+zc4+famP3F4TYdHDmZBKrzgKO5A+4SF2QpQtD /erWf1Wshkh2Yj Message-ID: <46DC3D1F.8030904@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:58:07 +0200 From: Koen de Wijs User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel References: <46D7C623.5040709@gmx.net> <200708311422.33707.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200708311422.33707.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:57:24 -0000 Mel schreef: > On Friday 31 August 2007 09:41:23 Koen de Wijs wrote: > > >> This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works >> fine but one thing I can't get working. >> Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing >> that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If KDE is >> started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a icon >> on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work for >> cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon; >> > > Don't know about XFCE4, but read on. > > >> I also added the regular user to the group operators. >> > > You don't wanna do that, unless it's ok with you that a user can get read > access to every file on every disk. Operator is meant for backup users. > > >> What do I need to do to get it working? >> > > portinstall desktop-bsd-tools and read the instructions about devfs, with a > major side-note: > ntfs/fat partitions can only be mounted by root, because mount changes the > owner of the disk to the underlying directory, so it's likely that your users > cannot mount usb-sticks. > To automount usb storage devices as root, have a look at usbd(8) and > usbd.conf(5). You'll have to provide an unmounter for your users though and > instruct them to unmount before removing or things go to hell. > > I've got everyting working right now except for the usb stick. I tried am-utils but I didn't lik that. Is I tried a lot of things and read a lot and everything almost works except for the usb-sticks. Before I will be busy with it for a couple of hours is this the way it should work? http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/041130A/ This website describes how to add usb-devices but is it normal to add an extra script with devd or is just some wierd workaround? Koen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 17:06:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E1816A41B for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:06:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgordeev@dir.bg) Received: from dir.bg (mail.dir.bg [194.145.63.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2EC13C46E for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgordeev@dir.bg) Received: from [87.126.152.39] (account jgordeev HELO [10.102.9.50]) by dir.bg (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 32195525 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:06:25 +0300 Message-ID: <46DC3F48.7080501@dir.bg> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:07:20 +0300 From: Jordan Gordeev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20070606 X-Accept-Language: bg, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <46DC1434.3090801@maa-net.net> In-Reply-To: <46DC1434.3090801@maa-net.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Weird FTP issue??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:06:28 -0000 Michaela wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering if anyone can possibly explain or give their expertise > with this bizarre/weird issue if you will that I've been having while > using such commands as portsnap, portaudit, fetch, etc. > > First off, I'm running FreeBSD v6.1. I have three (Internet) servers > running the same FreeBSD version. However, one of the servers has been > giving me trouble and I can't decipher whether or not it's a FreeBSD > related issue or something else altogether. > > On this one server, whenever I try to use "portaudit", "portsnap", > "fetch", or whenever I try to upgrade ports and it needs to "fetch" the > updates the connections ALMOST always "time out". But what's weird is > that I don't have the issue on the other two FreeBSD servers when they > need to use the same commands. > > I can SSH to this (problem) server, ping to-from it, and everything > else. It's gotten to the point where I thought it was a FreeBSD > problem so I completely reformatted and installed the O/S. However, > it's STILL doing the same thing. Upon trying to install certain > distribution sets through FTP media, I'd get an error about it (FreeBSD) > not being able to get a connection with the remote FreeBSD server. > > After that, I even went as far as changing network cards and it's still > doing it. Using "netstat" while trying to use the commands shows that > it's sending a "SYN" flag to the remote server, but no connection is > ever established. > > I have all three servers plugged into the same router/firewall and have > done so for years with no problems. This is the first issue of its kind. > > I'd greatly appreciate any insight, help, explanation, or something. > This is getting really aggrevating. > > > THANK YOU in advance. > > > -- Michael Hi, Michael! Please, note that portsnap is not using FTP, but HTTP. The first thing to do, when a problem like this occurs, is to use tcpdump to capture a packet trace. Use tcpdump on the server and, if possible, on the router/firewall and show us the results, if you can't analyze them by yourself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 17:10:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2496D16A417 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arved@knut.arved.priv.at) Received: from knut.arved.priv.at (knut.arved.priv.at [213.9.70.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF26113C483 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arved@knut.arved.priv.at) Received: from knut.arved.priv.at (knut.arved.priv.at [213.9.70.77]) by knut.arved.priv.at (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l83HA3ZZ045639 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:10:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arved@knut.arved.priv.at) Received: (from arved@localhost) by knut.arved.priv.at (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l83HA3VR045638 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:10:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from arved) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:10:03 +0200 From: Tilman Linneweh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070903171003.GE59826@arved.priv.at> References: <70f41ba20709030930n4c02a4bexf948d64cf9da554c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <70f41ba20709030930n4c02a4bexf948d64cf9da554c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: ports/115885: misc/help2man: help2man ignores installed gettext X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:10:05 -0000 * snowcrash+freebsd [2007-09-03 18:30]: > again, WHAT "supported configuration" are you talking about here? FreeBSD ports test if a file is installed to check if a dependency port is installed. If you are tricking by installing the file via some other mechanism, it breaks. > > there's a properly installed perl-module. expecting freebsd ports of > perl programs to correctly use perl-compliant module installs is, > somehow, unreasonable? The FreeBSD ports collection is not a perl program, so it has no knowledge what CPAN is. Neither does CPAN know what a FreeBSD port is, unless you use something like bsdpan. So why should it work? > > Mel wrote: > > Except for apps in the ports, because cpan/cpanp can not register *port* dependencies. > > RUN_DEPENDS does not mean "check if this file exists", it means "register a dependency on this port". What it does is: > > 1) check if the port is installed and if not install it. > > 2) add a line @pkgdep portname-version to $PKGDB/portname-version/+CONTENTS > > 3) add a line @DEPORIGIN:category/origin to $PKGDB/portname-version/+CONTENTS > > 4) add a line portname-version to $PKGDB/depname-version/+REQUIRED_BY > > > > If you wanna get rid of this problem, you could use an AFTER_INSTALL hack in >pkgtools.conf to undo 2)-4). Messy, but works. > > > Much cleaner is to just use the ports system p5-*. It does it's job very well > > that's not been my experience -- but, that's not the argument here. > > i think it's not unreasonable to expect that "a perl-module is a > perl-module is a perl-module". > > if it's properly installed -- and, in this case, it is, just like ALL > my other perl-modules, then a port should treate it > consistently/correctly. Did you actually read what he wrote? He explained in detail, what is missing for a proper port installation. > > just like all my other ports do -- just NOT help2man. If you think there is something broken with this specific port, submit a patch. But as i told you, this is a problem with all ports that depend on a perl module. > as for working around the problem ... the SIMPLEST solution is not to > bother with "ports" system in this case, and do a manual install of > help2man. Another solution may be to set WITHOUT_NLS. So you don't get dependency on p5-gettext. > > > and since you're familiar with cpan/cpanp I'm sure you'll have no problem > > installing modules that might not exist in the freebsd ports into a directory > > *outside* the ports hierarchy (/usr/local) and add this to the module search > > path. > > when help2man is installed via ports it *USES* the cpan-installed perl-module. Because you installed it into the wrong directory. The directory under /usr/local belong to the ports collection, and if you install software from somewhere else into it, it might break how the FreeBSD ports collection works. > Anton Berezin wrote: > > Sorry, but I am afraid that if you insist on not using Perl modules > > installed via ports this means you cannot expect any ports depending on Perl > > modules to work. > > are you impkying that a perl module installed by ports is somehow > different than one installed by perl/cpan itself? Yes, a FreeBSD port is not only the original source, but also the meta information. regards tilman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 17:18:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C318516A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ecerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A124B13C469 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ecerejo@optonline.net) Received: from ecerejo.netgear.com (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JNS00LHKYQCTC50@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:17:33 -0400 From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org, nlecic@EUnet.yu Message-id: <46DC41AD.2040807@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) Cc: Subject: Re: xmcd fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:18:13 -0000 ----- Mensagem original ---- De: Nikola Lecic Para: Eduardo Cerejo Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 3 de Setembro de 2007 12:50:08 Assunto: Re: xmcd fails Hi Eduardo, On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:49:45 -0400 "Eduardo Cerejo" wrote: > I have been trying to compile xmcd on FreeBSD 6 stable and I'm > getting this: > > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xac2c): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xac35): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xac7e): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbControl_GetDiscInfo' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xacba): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xacdc): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xad22): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xad3e): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cdinfo_d/libcdinfo.a(cdinfo_i.o)(.text+0xadfa): In function > `cdinfo_urlcddb': > : undefined reference to `CddbReleaseObject' > ../cddb_d/libcddbkey.a(cddbkey1.o)(.text+0x4a): In function > `cddb_setkey': : undefined reference to `CddbControl_SetClientInfo' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/audio/xmcd/work/xmcd-3.3.2/xmcd_d. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/audio/xmcd/work/xmcd-3.3.2. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/audio/xmcd. Please use this patch for patches: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/112876 and xmcd will compile. Please note the little correction below, or new file 'patch-aj' will appear in xmcd's port dir and not in files/. (BTW, you should always include an actual command that triggered error(s), not just error itself.) > I have never had this problem compiling xmcd. Or if someone could > tell me where I can download the latest xmcd package, I found a few > but they are old versions of xmcd and it won't install. Another > alternative would be another cd player similar to xmcd the ones I've > tried are very basic with no cddb access. Thanks. You didn't say what players you tried, but there are really many cd-players; maybe some of them are "basic" but there are a lot "advanced" ones. XMMS could be a good advanced lightweight choice with a lot of plugins; if you want something glimmering and huge, try amaroK. Nikola LeÄić _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello Nikola, First of all thanks for you help but I'm still a little confused about where to put that file, I put it in the ..audio/xmcd/files/ directory and named it patch-aj but when I try to install it asks me "# File to patch:" and I don't know what to put! Did I miss something? Thanks again From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 17:32:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5087A16A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:32:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schneecrash@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA48B13C4CE for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schneecrash@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so776778nzf for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:32:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=qlGXUYurpSWLoCC5jWzS4hbA9JkYr1NGhsQgdBhJhbbHjr8r5FzgMBfN/TDE1azY/bQgm2B/9lkOyjZbFe3A4bfwrMY+jqpoUHmSRC+IaV4l772UgD7Fi3vXhZ5IxdpmpuEl24biljJl0z2UJdgASYJ0bzj2qe2Dgr5LLv0YSWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=HDAX7Z2sNgblKJW/hdneBCg8Js+vsHNQIKCh9yPlMAHOZHAORB0BjM58a7CKu3N0Ped1ecaR6pUJdj41bTlnDZoWMPwDHRMhZN9wORGFUJvGHEbQhHweNG4FRC38dz2VzLV1G4zYrhRKW7cW5vCiaR6fFmEWlbIem9m2Sxsbu8w= Received: by 10.65.116.10 with SMTP id t10mr8693931qbm.1188840773248; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.206.14 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <70f41ba20709031032n1a5815c4h7e85d4f70f37e9be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:32:53 -0700 From: snowcrash+freebsd Sender: schneecrash@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070903171003.GE59826@arved.priv.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <70f41ba20709030930n4c02a4bexf948d64cf9da554c@mail.gmail.com> <20070903171003.GE59826@arved.priv.at> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8784708e00dd2a0b Subject: Re: ports/115885: misc/help2man: help2man ignores installed gettext X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:32:54 -0000 note(s) to self: help2man port is borked. every other port with perl-module dependencies is fine ... freebsd folks not interested in fix. do a manual install instead. problem solved. outa here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 17:36:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FF116A41B for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bkoenig@alpha-tierchen.de) Received: from mail.liberty-hosting.de (mail.smartterra.de [195.225.132.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF1213C4B6 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:36:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bkoenig@alpha-tierchen.de) Received: from home.alpha-tierchen.de (port-212-202-42-154.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.42.154]) by mail.liberty-hosting.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B9C3E9232; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:07:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.alpha-tierchen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by home.alpha-tierchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE4D45067; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:05:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 2001:6f8:101e:0:20e:cff:fe6d:6adb (SquirrelMail authenticated user bkoenig) by webmail.alpha-tierchen.de with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:05:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <57592.2001:6f8:101e:0:20e:cff:fe6d:6adb.1188839145.squirrel@webmail.alpha-tierchen.de> In-Reply-To: <00631F753141A64C85E12D3DD5C4D0C401AADCC2@mx00-001.de.philotech.net> References: <00631F753141A64C85E12D3DD5C4D0C401AADCC2@mx00-001.de.philotech.net> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:05:45 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= To: "Gerdes, Mike" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My questions about freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:36:15 -0000 Hello, > Robustness: > > - Does FreeBSD offer Load-Balancinglike Piranha, with the standard > packages? This can be supported be clustering software or by dispatching > service requests to different instances of the same server. > - > - Does it offer Failover with the standard packages? This can be > supported be clustering software or by dispatching service requests to > different instances of the same server. FreeBSD doesn't support clustering. > - Is it possible to make a persistent image of the status of the > running OS? This is needed to freeze the system and late continue > computation with the same internal state. No. > - Is it possible to set the maximum allowed system resources for > any process? To support real time system, some kind of partitioning or > resource ensurance is needed. Yes. > Security: > > - What security mechanisms does free BSD offer on the network and > data link layer? In target solution the security of the other layers > (transport and application) are handled by the running applications and > the middleware. A lot. What do you need? > - Availability, Acess Control and Integrity are important. What > does FreeBSD offer to support these kinds of security? http://www.trustedbsd.org/ > - Is there a way to ensure Non-repudiation on a FreeBSD system? > The system is security critical and might handle credit card information > and other data to identify persons. Is it possible to link this data to > user action on the OS level? Everything is possible if you employ competent developers. > - Are tools provided for browsing audit trails? > > - Are security violations automatically logged? > > - Is it possible to add custom monitors to the standard auditing? > > - Are tools provided to create from auditing trails custom > reports? Yes. Yes. Yes. Depends on what you expect. http://www.trustedbsd.org/openbsm.html > - Is it possible to audit all transaction of the system or specify > what transaction to audit? Yes. > Support: > > - Is there commercial developer support for freeBSD available? There is no official commercial support for the standard distribution, but there are many companies that develop embedded solutions with FreeBSD. Most likely these companies offer support for their FreeBSD-based products. > - Do freeBSD drivers for ARINC 429 exist? > - > - Do freeBSD drivers for the CAN bus exist? > - > - Do freeBSD drivers for ADFX exist? Maybe somebody out there wrote such drivers. Probably closed source. I don't know. At least they are not part of the standard distribution. Regards Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 17:42:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA0216A418 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from smtpclu-7.EUnet.yu (smtpclu-7.eunet.yu [194.247.192.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6CE13C46A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-223-251.eunet.yu [213.198.223.251]) by smtpclu-7.EUnet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l83GOZPq015814; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:24:36 +0200 Message-Id: <200709031624.l83GOZPq015814@smtpclu-7.EUnet.yu> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:42:55 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: "E. J. Cerejo" In-Reply-To: <46DC41AD.2040807@optonline.net> References: <46DC41AD.2040807@optonline.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_50,TW_XM,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: 0.1 Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xmcd fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:42:54 -0000 On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:17:33 -0400 "E. J. Cerejo" wrote: > [...] > First of all thanks for you help but I'm still a little confused > about where to put that file, I put it in the ..audio/xmcd/files/ > directory and named it patch-aj but when I try to install it asks me > "# File to patch:" and I don't know what to put! Did I miss something? Save the entire text e.g. in /tmp/xmcd.patch, change the line for patch-aj, i.e. instead of=20 +++ patch-aj Thu May 31 12:58:25 2007 you should put +++ files/patch-aj Thu May 31 12:58:25 2007 Then: # cd /usr/ports/audio/xmcd # make clean # patch < /tmp/xmcd.patch # make patch At this stage, you should have three .orig files in files/ directory and three newly corrected files. Then # make install clean Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 17:49:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802F816A417 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from eunet.yu (smtpclu-1.eunet.yu [194.247.192.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC06713C4B5 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:49:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-223-251.eunet.yu [213.198.223.251]) by eunet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l83Hn4fU021385; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:49:04 +0200 Message-Id: <200709031749.l83Hn4fU021385@eunet.yu> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:49:12 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "E. J. Cerejo" In-Reply-To: <200709031624.l83GOZPq015814@smtpclu-7.EUnet.yu> References: <46DC41AD.2040807@optonline.net> <200709031624.l83GOZPq015814@smtpclu-7.EUnet.yu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_00,TW_XM,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: -2.5 Cc: Nikola Lecic Subject: Re: xmcd fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:49:08 -0000 On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:42:55 +0200 Nikola Lecic wrote: > On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:17:33 -0400 > "E. J. Cerejo" wrote: >=20 > > [...] > > First of all thanks for you help but I'm still a little confused > > about where to put that file, I put it in the ..audio/xmcd/files/ > > directory and named it patch-aj=20 > > [...] And yes, please delete this patch-aj file before you do anything else. Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 18:04:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBBE16A418 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0639613C494 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:04:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 42985 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2007 17:38:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=CURl1eDFTMuYo0SqeAAXAGMGqcgW/T/bu3YY6nnsZ2OCDldX16JTG2fqoZIbG3blCyEZ1ewDXsBNPpaULhi2H7eEH968TEheamBBEEt1TqjNvnuxB9fisJ+L8ivziaeHFWxrcWzmTlMc64C+8Af4CM7f2lMSWBy+amA73HM4Zqk=; X-YMail-OSG: ji72U4YVM1klHELNsSk14VufBV7us97AmbWkI0PoHWn_4n4lh1nvG4mRXT.XRw8y4OkfYe4t9QcTLl4hOuPbGP9Gsf9ico0cu6t4b1yJQz6BnS8s_EqW2fQdYjbB1Q-- Received: from [209.191.118.120] by web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:38:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/651.50 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:38:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielisz Laszlo To: Koen de Wijs , Mel MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <937069.42741.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danielisz Laszlo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:04:51 -0000 In my case mounting a USB stick simply works with mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1= /mnt/usb=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Koen de Wijs =0ATo: Mel =0ACc: freebsd-que= stions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Monday, September 3, 2007 7:58:07 PM=0ASubject: = Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde=0A=0AMel schreef:=0A> On Friday 31 August 2007= 09:41:23 Koen de Wijs wrote:=0A>=0A> =0A>> This week I installed FreeBSD= on a computer of mine. Everything works=0A>> fine but one thing I can't ge= t working.=0A>> Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The o= nly thing=0A>> that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-stick= s. If KDE is=0A>> started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there shoul= d appear a icon=0A>> on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that shoul= d also work for=0A>> cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon;=0A= >> =0A>=0A> Don't know about XFCE4, but read on.=0A>=0A> =0A>> I also= added the regular user to the group operators.=0A>> =0A>=0A> You don't= wanna do that, unless it's ok with you that a user can get read =0A> acces= s to every file on every disk. Operator is meant for backup users.=0A>=0A> = =0A>> What do I need to do to get it working?=0A>> =0A>=0A> portinsta= ll desktop-bsd-tools and read the instructions about devfs, with a =0A> maj= or side-note:=0A> ntfs/fat partitions can only be mounted by root, because = mount changes the =0A> owner of the disk to the underlying directory, so it= 's likely that your users =0A> cannot mount usb-sticks.=0A> To automount us= b storage devices as root, have a look at usbd(8) and =0A> usbd.conf(5). Yo= u'll have to provide an unmounter for your users though and =0A> instruct t= hem to unmount before removing or things go to hell.=0A>=0A> =0A=0A=0A=0A= I've got everyting working right now except for the usb stick. I tried =0Aa= m-utils but I didn't lik that. Is I tried a lot of things and read a =0Alot= and everything almost works except for the usb-sticks. Before I will =0Abe= busy with it for a couple of hours is this the way it should work?=0Ahttp:= //caia.swin.edu.au/reports/041130A/=0AThis website describes how to add usb= -devices but is it normal to add an =0Aextra script with devd or is just so= me wierd workaround?=0A=0AKoen=0A=0A=0A____________________________________= ___________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.fre= ebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail= to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A = =0A_____________________________________________________________________= _______________=0ATake the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in yo= ur pocket: mail, news, photos & more. =0Ahttp://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer= =3D1GNXIC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 18:29:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CD716A420 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ecerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D5D13C467 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ecerejo@optonline.net) Received: from ecerejo.netgear.com (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JNT00L8D217WD80@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:28:52 -0400 From: "E. J. Cerejo" In-reply-to: <200709031749.l83Hn4fU021385@eunet.yu> To: Nikola Lecic Message-id: <46DC5264.9010401@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <46DC41AD.2040807@optonline.net> <200709031624.l83GOZPq015814@smtpclu-7.EUnet.yu> <200709031749.l83Hn4fU021385@eunet.yu> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xmcd fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:29:33 -0000 Nikola Lecic wrote: > On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:42:55 +0200 > Nikola Lecic wrote: > > >> On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:17:33 -0400 >> "E. J. Cerejo" wrote: >> >> >>> [...] >>> First of all thanks for you help but I'm still a little confused >>> about where to put that file, I put it in the ..audio/xmcd/files/ >>> directory and named it patch-aj >>> [...] >>> > > And yes, please delete this patch-aj file before you do anything else. > > Nikola LeÄić > > Hello Nicola, The same happens when I do that. Here's what I have inside the files directory after I do the make clean: patch-aa patch-ac patch-af patch-ah pkg-message.in patch-ab patch-ad patch-ag patch-ai Then I ran: ecerejo# patch < /tmp/xmcd.patch and I get this: Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... (Patch is indented 1 space.) The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- | --- xmcd_d/Imakefile.orig Mon Nov 4 06:44:44 2002 | +++ xmcd_d/Imakefile Mon Nov 4 04:44:28 2002 |+@@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ |+ * #include "Motif.rules" |+ */ |+ |+-CDDBLIB= -L../cddb_d -lcddb |++CDDBLIB= -L../cddb_d -lcddblocal |+ LOCAL_LIBDIR= -L/usr/freeware/lib32 -L/usr/local/lib |+ VORBLIB= -lvorbisenc -lvorbis -logg |+ FLACLIB= -lFLAC -------------------------- File to patch: what should I enter here? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 18:41:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719EC16A41A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DD913C49D for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ISGrY-0000EO-VB for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:41:30 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=oko.kicks-ass.net) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ISGrU-0000E5-2J; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:41:24 -0700 Message-ID: <46DC54F4.7030603@math.arizona.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:39:48 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070713) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Koen de Wijs , questions@freebsd.org References: <46D7C623.5040709@gmx.net> <200708311422.33707.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <46DC3D1F.8030904@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <46DC3D1F.8030904@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting oko.kicks-ass.net is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:41:04 -0000 Do you have usbd="YES" in your rc.conf file? USB stick should be detected as ugen0. Read the dmesg before and after you attach the USB-drive. Add perm /dev/ugen0 0666 into your devfs.conf i /dev/ugen0 /usr/home/Username/mnt/usbstick msdosfs rw, noauto 0 0 into you fstab file I see no reason that the stick is not mounted automatically. You already have HAL on. Koen de Wijs wrote: > Mel schreef: >> On Friday 31 August 2007 09:41:23 Koen de Wijs wrote: >> >> >>> This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works >>> fine but one thing I can't get working. >>> Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing >>> that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If >>> KDE is >>> started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a >>> icon >>> on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work for >>> cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon; >>> >> >> Don't know about XFCE4, but read on. >> >> >>> I also added the regular user to the group operators. >>> >> >> You don't wanna do that, unless it's ok with you that a user can get >> read access to every file on every disk. Operator is meant for backup >> users. >> >> >>> What do I need to do to get it working? >>> >> >> portinstall desktop-bsd-tools and read the instructions about devfs, >> with a major side-note: >> ntfs/fat partitions can only be mounted by root, because mount >> changes the owner of the disk to the underlying directory, so it's >> likely that your users cannot mount usb-sticks. >> To automount usb storage devices as root, have a look at usbd(8) and >> usbd.conf(5). You'll have to provide an unmounter for your users >> though and instruct them to unmount before removing or things go to >> hell. >> >> > > > > I've got everyting working right now except for the usb stick. I tried > am-utils but I didn't lik that. Is I tried a lot of things and read a > lot and everything almost works except for the usb-sticks. Before I > will be busy with it for a couple of hours is this the way it should > work? > http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/041130A/ > This website describes how to add usb-devices but is it normal to add > an extra script with devd or is just some wierd workaround? > > Koen > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 19:27:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8CB16A417 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BDD7A13C48E for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 21458 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2007 19:00:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=uo3PrTiwU/UDWSK0RH2OLQiu6yjkIcyf9mTwdgWujHoMFREz0/Uw8Espk8RssD54HkSCIT899o2IEs5awZEn9ucufU9xJhw7PXJUHEhB/sYsBGGllXiy1myEGg/ulqm9sBGBey7r45ROaiSDuXxm+88Xes4BvCI/sJ29269uzMc=; X-YMail-OSG: eLViBiUVM1lKqKfD82bmKI970MOrc5YhhI1dwRwUoVOgQfTI_wI4qdkpfoJv9rlD1WvccTuePvGx0_ifBy2.zWchax9U1MC94wuygIoPa1rGQuuL.W_rvEZjcmgNhw-- Received: from [209.191.88.134] by web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:00:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/651.50 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:00:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielisz Laszlo To: Predrag Punosevac , Koen de Wijs , questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <60608.18289.qm@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danielisz Laszlo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:27:26 -0000 This is how my rc.conf appears=0A=0A$ cat /etc/rc.conf |grep usb=0Ausbd_ena= ble=3D"YES"=0A=0A=0AI will try adding those line, thank you!=0A=0A=0A----- = Original Message ----=0AFrom: Predrag Punosevac =0ATo: Koen de Wijs ; questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Mo= nday, September 3, 2007 9:39:48 PM=0ASubject: Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde= =0A=0ADo you have usbd=3D"YES" in your rc.conf file?=0AUSB stick should be = detected as ugen0. Read the dmesg before and after =0Ayou attach the USB-dr= ive.=0A=0AAdd perm /dev/ugen0 0666 into your devfs.conf=0Ai /dev/ugen0 /= usr/home/Username/mnt/usbstick msdosfs rw, noauto =0A0 0 into = you fstab file=0AI see no reason that the stick is not mounted automaticall= y.=0AYou already have HAL on.=0A=0A=0A=0AKoen de Wijs wrote:=0A> Mel schree= f:=0A>> On Friday 31 August 2007 09:41:23 Koen de Wijs wrote:=0A>>=0A>> = =0A>>> This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything work= s=0A>>> fine but one thing I can't get working.=0A>>> Every person should b= e albe to work with the machine. The only thing=0A>>> that isn't working is= auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If =0A>>> KDE is=0A>>> started an= d I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a =0A>>> icon=0A>>>= on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work for=0A>>= > cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon;=0A>>> =0A>>=0A>> = Don't know about XFCE4, but read on.=0A>>=0A>> =0A>>> I also added the reg= ular user to the group operators.=0A>>> =0A>>=0A>> You don't wanna do t= hat, unless it's ok with you that a user can get =0A>> read access to every= file on every disk. Operator is meant for backup =0A>> users.=0A>>=0A>> = =0A>>> What do I need to do to get it working?=0A>>> =0A>>=0A>> portins= tall desktop-bsd-tools and read the instructions about devfs, =0A>> with a = major side-note:=0A>> ntfs/fat partitions can only be mounted by root, beca= use mount =0A>> changes the owner of the disk to the underlying directory, = so it's =0A>> likely that your users cannot mount usb-sticks.=0A>> To autom= ount usb storage devices as root, have a look at usbd(8) and =0A>> usbd.con= f(5). You'll have to provide an unmounter for your users =0A>> though and i= nstruct them to unmount before removing or things go to =0A>> hell.=0A>>=0A= >> =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> I've got everyting working right now except for the u= sb stick. I tried =0A> am-utils but I didn't lik that. Is I tried a lot of = things and read a =0A> lot and everything almost works except for the usb-s= ticks. Before I =0A> will be busy with it for a couple of hours is this the= way it should =0A> work?=0A> http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/041130A/=0A> = This website describes how to add usb-devices but is it normal to add =0A> = an extra script with devd or is just some wierd workaround?=0A>=0A> Koen=0A= >=0A>=0A> _______________________________________________=0A> freebsd-quest= ions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo= /freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to =0A> "freebsd-quest= ions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A________________________________________= _______=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd= .org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A __= ___________________________________________________________________________= _______=0AShape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel = today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=3D7 =0A= =0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 19:53:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7001A16A421 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from iota.fastbighost.com (iota.fastbighost.com [65.98.8.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483CB13C4B0 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from [89.123.12.203] (port=51758 helo=deimos.bsd.nix) by iota.fastbighost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISHr5-0006BM-H8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:45:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:52:47 +0000 From: Ghirai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070903225247.bd5622ff.ghirai@ghirai.com> In-Reply-To: <60608.18289.qm@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <60608.18289.qm@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: ghirai@ghirai.com X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iota.fastbighost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ghirai.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: periodic freeze and reset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:53:14 -0000 Hello list, My desktop running 6.2-STABLE is freezing then resetting shortly after. This behaviour happens every couple hours, for no apparent reason. I checked messages, etc, there's nothing there. This is getting annoying... :/ I'd appreciate any hints/where to look/what to look for. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 20:31:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B6E16A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3AD13C4B4 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (c-71-60-127-199.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.127.199]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB42AEBC78; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:31:41 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Ghirai Message-Id: <20070903163141.2f4e1f9e.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20070903225247.bd5622ff.ghirai@ghirai.com> References: <60608.18289.qm@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20070903225247.bd5622ff.ghirai@ghirai.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: periodic freeze and reset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:31:45 -0000 Ghirai wrote: > > Hello list, > > My desktop running 6.2-STABLE is freezing then resetting shortly after. > This behaviour happens every couple hours, for no apparent reason. > > I checked messages, etc, there's nothing there. > > This is getting annoying... :/ > > I'd appreciate any hints/where to look/what to look for. My first guess would be hardware problems. Have you run memtest? Checked for cooling problems? cpuburn to test for a flaky CPU? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 20:45:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E486716A46C for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from iota.fastbighost.com (iota.fastbighost.com [65.98.8.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC44E13C481 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from [89.123.12.203] (port=51791 helo=deimos.bsd.nix) by iota.fastbighost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISIfe-0008VG-MK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:37:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:44:58 +0000 From: Ghirai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070903234458.cb13c501.ghirai@ghirai.com> In-Reply-To: <20070903163141.2f4e1f9e.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <60608.18289.qm@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20070903225247.bd5622ff.ghirai@ghirai.com> <20070903163141.2f4e1f9e.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: ghirai@ghirai.com X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iota.fastbighost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ghirai.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: periodic freeze and reset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:45:28 -0000 On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:31:41 -0400 Bill Moran wrote: > Ghirai wrote: > > > > Hello list, > > > > My desktop running 6.2-STABLE is freezing then resetting shortly after. > > This behaviour happens every couple hours, for no apparent reason. > > > > I checked messages, etc, there's nothing there. > > > > This is getting annoying... :/ > > > > I'd appreciate any hints/where to look/what to look for. > > My first guess would be hardware problems. Have you run memtest? > Checked for cooling problems? cpuburn to test for a flaky CPU? > Haven't ran any hw monitors/test, but i spend time periodically in windows, about 2-3 days each time, and it didn't crash reset. That's why i think there are no hw issues. In FreeBSD the freeze+resets occur and seemingly random intervals, but not longer than 30 hours. Mostly within 6 hours. -- Regards, Ghirai. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 20:49:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3057616A418 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A2513C491 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A07D1CC38 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:49:50 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:49:47 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <70f41ba20709030930n4c02a4bexf948d64cf9da554c@mail.gmail.com> <20070903171003.GE59826@arved.priv.at> <70f41ba20709031032n1a5815c4h7e85d4f70f37e9be@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <70f41ba20709031032n1a5815c4h7e85d4f70f37e9be@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709032249.48688.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: ports/115885: misc/help2man: help2man ignores installed gettext X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:49:52 -0000 On Monday 03 September 2007 19:32:53 snowcrash+freebsd wrote: > help2man port is borked. > every other port with perl-module dependencies is fine ... Oh really? Could you provide output of a 'portupgrade -f one_of_every_other_port_with_perl_module_dependency'? -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 20:57:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A63316A420 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:57:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059A313C46C for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so938934rvb for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:57:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b2D7fNiTmVPUatdkGEQSPqqSi0SOtEAusT3Z/c/LF3dL/71I6WHXHLJhEBzV1V/zWGnS4ddtc0NvF82ds+f/csrs5ST2cQEG95v8+dfFrK3P95R2vZlCWkG04l/zJHXf3XNZANa1pWgkj47ugtmWBTGXE26L7+ldK+5ijDBJUj0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YI52RINwwP9j3SBnz6XKYTHwWP+yBO5SG1X3DBv6FdPTOpTXLsQd1Hq+ZU9zRg66AvlhZtsgxNoUjdUNakMErAj/s1x5p29mcw+pkRuz17y8Dz6jM6eZ9djHRxOybpA/rkcOHa0Ym9M7cutOCdzDF7WRvFeHhHawqkNgXYll2fU= Received: by 10.140.193.16 with SMTP id q16mr2082129rvf.1188851466574; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.79.9 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94136a2c0709031331s6d748ce6s14e119fe8068b115@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:31:06 +0200 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070903225247.bd5622ff.ghirai@ghirai.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <60608.18289.qm@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20070903225247.bd5622ff.ghirai@ghirai.com> Subject: Re: periodic freeze and reset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:57:55 -0000 hello, > My desktop running 6.2-STABLE is freezing then resetting shortly after. > This behaviour happens every couple hours, for no apparent reason. > > I checked messages, etc, there's nothing there. Do you have a decent (Intel) NIC? This was my problem a couple of months ago. Not any more. Regards, zbigniew szalbot www.lcwords.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 21:05:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A364B16A41A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7061113C46E for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38491CC38 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:05:50 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:05:48 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46D7C623.5040709@gmx.net> <200708311422.33707.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <46DC3D1F.8030904@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <46DC3D1F.8030904@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709032305.49226.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: auto mount xfce4 and kde X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:05:51 -0000 On Monday 03 September 2007 18:58:07 Koen de Wijs wrote: > Mel schreef: > > On Friday 31 August 2007 09:41:23 Koen de Wijs wrote: > >> This week I installed FreeBSD on a computer of mine. Everything works > >> fine but one thing I can't get working. > >> Every person should be albe to work with the machine. The only thing > >> that isn't working is auto-mounting of cd-roms and usb-sticks. If KDE is > >> started and I put a usb-stick in the computer there should appear a icon > >> on the desktop with the usb drive on it and that should also work for > >> cd-roms. On XFCE4 there should also appear an icon; > > > > Don't know about XFCE4, but read on. > > > >> I also added the regular user to the group operators. > > > > You don't wanna do that, unless it's ok with you that a user can get read > > access to every file on every disk. Operator is meant for backup users. > > > >> What do I need to do to get it working? > > > > portinstall desktop-bsd-tools and read the instructions about devfs, with > > a major side-note: > > ntfs/fat partitions can only be mounted by root, because mount changes > > the owner of the disk to the underlying directory, so it's likely that > > your users cannot mount usb-sticks. > > To automount usb storage devices as root, have a look at usbd(8) and > > usbd.conf(5). You'll have to provide an unmounter for your users though > > and instruct them to unmount before removing or things go to hell. > > I've got everyting working right now except for the usb stick. I tried > am-utils but I didn't lik that. Is I tried a lot of things and read a > lot and everything almost works except for the usb-sticks. Before I will > be busy with it for a couple of hours is this the way it should work? > http://caia.swin.edu.au/reports/041130A/ > This website describes how to add usb-devices but is it normal to add an > extra script with devd or is just some wierd workaround? That's a very interesting article and explains why my unmounter is never called. And yes, it is the proper way. devd (and usbd specifically for usb devices) has been created to be able to propagate kernel hardware events to user land. It follows unix principles that root is owner of the machine and it's resources and decides what to do with it. Using these events one can call simple scripts or very complex programs. As for KDE, also look at dcop. For instance: dcop --all-users --all-sessions knotify default notify notify Me \ "I just sent you guys a notification. I could use it to tell you that the USB stick has been mounted." nosound nofile 2 0 -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 21:12:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7CE16A468 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:12:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B860113C49D for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:12:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280BB1CC38 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:12:14 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:12:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <00f701c7ee3c$828cc320$6501a8c0@GRANT> In-Reply-To: <00f701c7ee3c$828cc320$6501a8c0@GRANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709032312.12859.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: IPMI kernel object i/o error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:12:15 -0000 On Monday 03 September 2007 17:10:05 Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > I am trying to get ipmitool working on a Dell 1850. > > When I kldload the ipmi.ko, it seems to load fine but the dev device is not > being created. > > I can see this in the dmesg any time I try. > > If anyone can interprate this I wouold be greatful > > The ACPI driver cannot be loaded after boot. > ipmi0: on isa0 > ipmi0: KCS mode found at io 0xca8 alignment 0x4 on isa > ipmi0: couldn't configure I/O resource > device_attach: ipmi0 attach returned 6 > ppc0: parallel port not found. > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > sio1: port may not be enabled I'd start by: cat <>/boot/loader.conf acpi_load="YES" ipmi_load="YES" EOF and reboot. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 21:12:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3AA16A417 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from iota.fastbighost.com (iota.fastbighost.com [65.98.8.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E4313C48A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from [89.123.12.203] (port=52405 helo=deimos.bsd.nix) by iota.fastbighost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISJ66-0000fJ-R0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:04:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:12:25 +0000 From: Ghirai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070904001225.3171a6ef.ghirai@ghirai.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0709031331s6d748ce6s14e119fe8068b115@mail.gmail.com> References: <60608.18289.qm@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20070903225247.bd5622ff.ghirai@ghirai.com> <94136a2c0709031331s6d748ce6s14e119fe8068b115@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: ghirai@ghirai.com X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iota.fastbighost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ghirai.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: periodic freeze and reset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:12:45 -0000 On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:31:06 +0200 "Zbigniew Szalbot" wrote: > hello, > > > My desktop running 6.2-STABLE is freezing then resetting shortly after. > > This behaviour happens every couple hours, for no apparent reason. > > > > I checked messages, etc, there's nothing there. > Do you have a decent (Intel) NIC? This was my problem a couple of > months ago. Not any more. > I have a D-Link DFE-530 NIC (the onboard 1GB Attansic doesn't work), which the OS detected as Realtek, and it seems to work fine. If i attach a copy of dmesg would it help? Thanks. -- Regards, Ghirai. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 21:46:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB53716A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B076813C468 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (c-71-60-127-199.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.127.199]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA25CEBC78; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:46:54 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Ghirai Message-Id: <20070903174654.1afa4354.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20070903234458.cb13c501.ghirai@ghirai.com> References: <60608.18289.qm@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20070903225247.bd5622ff.ghirai@ghirai.com> <20070903163141.2f4e1f9e.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20070903234458.cb13c501.ghirai@ghirai.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: periodic freeze and reset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:46:55 -0000 Ghirai wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:31:41 -0400 > Bill Moran wrote: > > > Ghirai wrote: > > > > > > Hello list, > > > > > > My desktop running 6.2-STABLE is freezing then resetting shortly after. > > > This behaviour happens every couple hours, for no apparent reason. > > > > > > I checked messages, etc, there's nothing there. > > > > > > This is getting annoying... :/ > > > > > > I'd appreciate any hints/where to look/what to look for. > > > > My first guess would be hardware problems. Have you run memtest? > > Checked for cooling problems? cpuburn to test for a flaky CPU? > > > > Haven't ran any hw monitors/test, but i spend time periodically in windows, > about 2-3 days each time, and it didn't crash reset. > > That's why i think there are no hw issues. > > In FreeBSD the freeze+resets occur and seemingly random intervals, but > not longer than 30 hours. Mostly within 6 hours. That seems to suggest that it isn't hardware, but doesn't completely eliminate the possibility. Often, vendors write drivers to work around known deficiencies in their hardware. Since FreeBSD's drivers are written to the specs, they may expose these deficiencies while the vendor's drivers intentionally avoid them. Additionally, FreeBSD seems to work hardware in different ways than Windows, thus tickling corner cases with hardware that's just barely failing. Run some hardware tests to be sure. Also, the driver issue that was raised is a good point. I've seen a number of buggy NICs where the vendor's driver worked around the bugginess so it _looked_ like FreeBSD was at fault. Make sure all your hardware is known to work on FreeBSD. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 22:02:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEF216A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B2013C45B for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so381125anc for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:02:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RLJNAytmhThPpxC9pOeZEUx1AyPxtFAdNarJ9KLvmUcx6ye5GMFQPYkuV5QqgxLjb/j24cfATz8zfSFHASQAFRqmUV38lPXN5EHpGjSZnyaTgXxAXthcLQsoX2ozU7u12oB8LI7z/0tqwPtFj8JfjcXNuqB+CRu/1OfYNx7vnKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JdeCsXpWIk6s+nK37kJlOu+Y2bEST1EAxJv+9ZCMADQxGwgu6jL+IuE6f98BIq7lkMzG7mibKLhyV5KhlajbNhkRQh1f0ct1fjlmmHjaxJ56et7lPLrCuGTHaMvq9KVvtbE8xoJ7G2DZfqRb0pnO6esEYVtL09Ho3vyvw7lgtKY= Received: by 10.100.33.14 with SMTP id g14mr3854204ang.1188856963659; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.91.2 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:02:43 -0300 From: luizbcampos@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: harassing cdrecord on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:02:44 -0000 Dear Sirs I tried to write a new CD by using K3b and it found just its image. It's not able to find a suitable driver. When I type "cdrecord -scanbus" the output is the ditto CDrom followed by its adress 1,0,0...what should I do? Regards Luiz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 22:58:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB68F16A417 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB8213C442 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018FE7F92 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripple.shadypond.com (ripple.shadypond.com [192.168.1.13]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29E9B83C for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:58:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:58:03 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709032258.03656.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: ssh forwarding question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:58:10 -0000 I installed tightvnc on FreeBSD 6.2 and I start the vncserver on that machine. Thereafter, I can do vnc via ssh to that vncserver from my kubuntu desktop with something like this (hostname is the only thing changed to protect the innocent): ssh -L 15901:localhost:5901 -N -f -l pollywog myhost.example.com However, when I attempt to connect to that vncserver from my laptop running FreeBSD 7 I always get this: bind: Can't assign requested address channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 15901 Could not request local forwarding. Is the "bind" referring to the nameserver BIND? BTW I am able to connect to the vncserver from the laptop, just not via ssh. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 23:07:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE22016A41B for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp102.math.arizona.edu (smtp102.math.arizona.edu [128.196.102.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F2713C45A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ISL1G-00027k-J1 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:07:47 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=oko.kicks-ass.net) by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ISL1C-000275-Ae; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:07:42 -0700 Message-ID: <46DC9379.8090708@math.arizona.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:06:33 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070713) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: luizbcampos@gmail.com, questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting oko.kicks-ass.net is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: harassing cdrecord on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:07:50 -0000 luizbcampos@gmail.com wrote: > Dear Sirs > > I tried to write a new CD by using K3b and it found just its image. It's > not able to find a suitable driver. When I type "cdrecord -scanbus" the > output is the ditto CDrom followed by its adress 1,0,0...what should I do? > > Regards > > Luiz > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Before start using fancy tools just try to burn from the command line with cdrtools. Everything is explained in section 18.6 of the Handbook. To get K3b working you must edit permissions? Did you edit devfs.conf file? own /dev/acd0 root:operator perm /dev/acd0 0666 link acd0 dvd link acd0 rdvd perm cd0 0666 perm xpt0 0666 perm pass0 0666 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 23:09:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E2B16A41B for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:09:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp102.math.arizona.edu (smtp102.math.arizona.edu [128.196.102.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1365313C459 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ISL2Q-000289-Tq for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:08:59 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=oko.kicks-ass.net) by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ISL2G-00027q-Kt; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:08:48 -0700 Message-ID: <46DC93FD.8020701@math.arizona.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:08:45 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070713) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pollywog , questions@freebsd.org References: <200709032258.03656.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> In-Reply-To: <200709032258.03656.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting oko.kicks-ass.net is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: ssh forwarding question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:09:00 -0000 Pollywog wrote: > > bind: Can't assign requested address > channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 15901 > Could not request local forwarding. > > > It seems to me that you have a problem with a firewall. Look at your own message. It looks like port 15901 is closed for listening. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 23:18:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1850616A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from iota.fastbighost.com (iota.fastbighost.com [65.98.8.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34AA13C468 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:18:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from [89.123.12.203] (port=52934 helo=deimos.bsd.nix) by iota.fastbighost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISL3Y-0007sp-Qq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:10:09 +0000 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 02:17:52 +0000 From: Ghirai To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070904021752.0066b70a.ghirai@ghirai.com> In-Reply-To: <20070903174654.1afa4354.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <60608.18289.qm@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20070903225247.bd5622ff.ghirai@ghirai.com> <20070903163141.2f4e1f9e.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20070903234458.cb13c501.ghirai@ghirai.com> <20070903174654.1afa4354.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: ghirai@ghirai.com X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iota.fastbighost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ghirai.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: periodic freeze and reset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:18:19 -0000 On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:46:54 -0400 Bill Moran wrote: > Ghirai wrote: > > > > On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:31:41 -0400 > > Bill Moran wrote: > > > > > Ghirai wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello list, > > > > > > > > My desktop running 6.2-STABLE is freezing then resetting shortly after. > > > > This behaviour happens every couple hours, for no apparent reason. > > > > > > > > I checked messages, etc, there's nothing there. > > > > > > > > This is getting annoying... :/ > > > > > > > > I'd appreciate any hints/where to look/what to look for. > > > > > > My first guess would be hardware problems. Have you run memtest? > > > Checked for cooling problems? cpuburn to test for a flaky CPU? > > > > > > > Haven't ran any hw monitors/test, but i spend time periodically in windows, > > about 2-3 days each time, and it didn't crash reset. > > > > That's why i think there are no hw issues. > > > > In FreeBSD the freeze+resets occur and seemingly random intervals, but > > not longer than 30 hours. Mostly within 6 hours. > > That seems to suggest that it isn't hardware, but doesn't completely > eliminate the possibility. > > Often, vendors write drivers to work around known deficiencies in their > hardware. Since FreeBSD's drivers are written to the specs, they may > expose these deficiencies while the vendor's drivers intentionally avoid > them. > > Additionally, FreeBSD seems to work hardware in different ways than > Windows, thus tickling corner cases with hardware that's just barely > failing. Run some hardware tests to be sure. > > Also, the driver issue that was raised is a good point. I've seen a > number of buggy NICs where the vendor's driver worked around the > bugginess so it _looked_ like FreeBSD was at fault. > > Make sure all your hardware is known to work on FreeBSD. > All right, i'll do some tests with the NIC, change it, etc. I'll post back results. Thanks. -- Regards, Ghirai. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 23:19:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3659016A418 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1680D13C45D for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8D08063 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripple.shadypond.com (ripple.shadypond.com [192.168.1.13]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881A5B83E for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:19:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:19:06 +0000 References: <200709032258.03656.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <46DC93FD.8020701@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <46DC93FD.8020701@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709032319.06630.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: ssh forwarding question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:19:10 -0000 On Monday 03 September 2007 23:08:45 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Pollywog wrote: > > bind: Can't assign requested address > > channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 15901 > > Could not request local forwarding. > > It seems to me that you have a problem with a firewall. Look at your own > message. It looks like port 15901 is closed for listening. Since I am new to FreeBSD, I think you might be correct, though I do not recall ever setting up a firewall on this machine. thanks, I will look into that From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 3 23:51:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041BA16A419 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjw43@drexel.edu) Received: from smtp.mail.drexel.edu (pm3.irt.drexel.edu [144.118.29.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA46713C469 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjw43@drexel.edu) Received: from smtp.mail.drexel.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.mail.drexel.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id F048F504E2 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:51:45 -0400 (EDT) X-No-SMTP-Auth: unauthenticated sender Received: from capitolreef.irt.drexel.edu (capitolreef.irt.drexel.edu [144.118.30.201]) by smtp.mail.drexel.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id E0AB150327 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <958730.1188863505624.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:51:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Wilson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: how to access dvdrom drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:51:47 -0000 I have just installed free bsd and trying to access my dvdrom drive. I issued the command: "mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom" but I got a message stating "incorrect super block." What is the correct method for accessing the files on my dvd rom. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 00:13:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D514116A417 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48EB13C45B for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130E4817E for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripple.shadypond.com (ripple.shadypond.com [192.168.1.13]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9201B83C for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:13:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:13:13 +0000 References: <200709032258.03656.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <46DC93FD.8020701@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <46DC93FD.8020701@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709040013.14531.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: ssh forwarding question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:13:19 -0000 On Monday 03 September 2007 23:08:45 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Pollywog wrote: > > bind: Can't assign requested address > > channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 15901 > > Could not request local forwarding. > > It seems to me that you have a problem with a firewall. Look at your own > message. It looks like port 15901 is closed for listening. Here is another clue. Something seems to be wrong with the loopback: lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 ripple# ping localhost PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address I have not set up a firewall on this host, so the problem is something else, perhaps the output above from ifconfig helps. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 00:16:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812E316A417 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:16:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26D013C428 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup188.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.188]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-8) with ESMTP id l840FuWe027478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:16:08 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l840FpD5004232; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:15:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l840Fo9L004231; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:15:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:15:50 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Terrence Wilson Message-ID: <20070904001550.GA3446@kobe.laptop> References: <958730.1188863505624.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <958730.1188863505624.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.869, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.53, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to access dvdrom drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:16:18 -0000 On 2007-09-03 19:51, Terrence Wilson wrote: > I have just installed free bsd and trying to access my dvdrom drive. I > issued the command: "mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom" but I got a message > stating "incorrect super block." What is the correct method for > accessing the files on my dvd rom. The default "filesystem type" used by mount is "ufs", so you are trying to mount the DVD disk as a "UFS filesystem". It is certainly possible to create a DVD disk with a UFS filesystem, but the most common format for storing data in DVD disks is the filesystem known as "cd9660", so you may have to use: mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom More details about creating and using CD-ROM disks, and DVD-ROM disks can be found in our Handbook. You can read the relevant sections at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html When you find the time, please feel free to skim through the rest of the Handbook too. It contains a huge wealth of information about using FreeBSD, and I'm sure you will find a lot of interestings bit there. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 00:21:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7663516A420 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5617113C45B for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD138038 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:21:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripple.shadypond.com (ripple.shadypond.com [192.168.1.13]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E42B83C for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:21:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:21:35 +0000 References: <200709032258.03656.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <46DC93FD.8020701@math.arizona.edu> <200709040013.14531.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> In-Reply-To: <200709040013.14531.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709040021.35918.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: ssh forwarding question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:21:39 -0000 On Tuesday 04 September 2007 00:13:13 Pollywog wrote: > On Monday 03 September 2007 23:08:45 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > Pollywog wrote: > > > bind: Can't assign requested address > > > channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 15901 > > > Could not request local forwarding. > > > > It seems to me that you have a problem with a firewall. Look at your own > > message. It looks like port 15901 is closed for listening. > > Here is another clue. Something seems to be wrong with the loopback: > > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > ripple# ping localhost > PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > > I have not set up a firewall on this host, so the problem is something > else, perhaps the output above from ifconfig helps. Yes that was the problem. I did this: ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 After that I could ping localhost and my VNC connection via SSH succeeded. Now how do I fix this problem permanently in FreeBSD, by running sysinstall again and setting the loopback address from there? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 00:22:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5127716A419 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0546813C494 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:22:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 18885 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2007 19:22:15 -0500 Received: from 124-170-175-120.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.175.120) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 3 Sep 2007 19:22:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:22:11 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_K=F6nig?= Message-ID: <20070904102211.1bdd9876@localhost> In-Reply-To: <57592.2001:6f8:101e:0:20e:cff:fe6d:6adb.1188839145.squirrel@webmail.alpha-tierchen.de> References: <00631F753141A64C85E12D3DD5C4D0C401AADCC2@mx00-001.de.philotech.net> <57592.2001:6f8:101e:0:20e:cff:fe6d:6adb.1188839145.squirrel@webmail.alpha-tierchen.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "Gerdes, Mike" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My questions about freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:22:16 -0000 On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 19:05:45 +0200 (CEST) Bj=F6rn K=F6nig wrote: > > - Does it offer Failover with the standard packages? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 00:27:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA5F16A469 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52AED13C465 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:27:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 19698 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2007 00:27:48 -0000 Received: from bb121-7-106-120.singnet.com.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@121.7.106.120) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 4 Sep 2007 00:27:47 -0000 Message-ID: <46DCA67D.8010809@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:27:41 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ghirai References: <60608.18289.qm@web30810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20070903225247.bd5622ff.ghirai@ghirai.com> <20070903163141.2f4e1f9e.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20070903234458.cb13c501.ghirai@ghirai.com> <20070903174654.1afa4354.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20070904021752.0066b70a.ghirai@ghirai.com> In-Reply-To: <20070904021752.0066b70a.ghirai@ghirai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: periodic freeze and reset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:27:51 -0000 Hi, I have had crashes too on my machine with the 6.2 RELEASE kernel. They are gone since I use a custom kernel. The fun is that I have t use the rl NIC driver like you do. Erich Ghirai wrote: > On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:46:54 -0400 > Bill Moran wrote: > >> Ghirai wrote: >>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:31:41 -0400 >>> Bill Moran wrote: >>> >>>> Ghirai wrote: >>>>> Hello list, >>>>> >>>>> My desktop running 6.2-STABLE is freezing then resetting shortly after. >>>>> This behaviour happens every couple hours, for no apparent reason. >>>>> >>>>> I checked messages, etc, there's nothing there. >>>>> >>>>> This is getting annoying... :/ >>>>> >>>>> I'd appreciate any hints/where to look/what to look for. >>>> My first guess would be hardware problems. Have you run memtest? >>>> Checked for cooling problems? cpuburn to test for a flaky CPU? >>>> >>> Haven't ran any hw monitors/test, but i spend time periodically in windows, >>> about 2-3 days each time, and it didn't crash reset. >>> >>> That's why i think there are no hw issues. >>> >>> In FreeBSD the freeze+resets occur and seemingly random intervals, but >>> not longer than 30 hours. Mostly within 6 hours. >> That seems to suggest that it isn't hardware, but doesn't completely >> eliminate the possibility. >> >> Often, vendors write drivers to work around known deficiencies in their >> hardware. Since FreeBSD's drivers are written to the specs, they may >> expose these deficiencies while the vendor's drivers intentionally avoid >> them. >> >> Additionally, FreeBSD seems to work hardware in different ways than >> Windows, thus tickling corner cases with hardware that's just barely >> failing. Run some hardware tests to be sure. >> >> Also, the driver issue that was raised is a good point. I've seen a >> number of buggy NICs where the vendor's driver worked around the >> bugginess so it _looked_ like FreeBSD was at fault. >> >> Make sure all your hardware is known to work on FreeBSD. >> > > > All right, i'll do some tests with the NIC, change it, etc. > I'll post back results. > > Thanks. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 00:37:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E798616A41A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (137-42-178-69.gci.net [69.178.42.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B945413C457 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: by stargate.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id C84287DD4; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:37:22 -0800 (AKDT) From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:37:15 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200709032258.03656.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <200709040013.14531.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <200709040021.35918.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> In-Reply-To: <200709040021.35918.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709031637.18901.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Pollywog Subject: Re: ssh forwarding question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Beech Rintoul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:37:24 -0000 On Monday 03 September 2007, Pollywog said: > On Tuesday 04 September 2007 00:13:13 Pollywog wrote: > > On Monday 03 September 2007 23:08:45 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > > Pollywog wrote: > > > > bind: Can't assign requested address > > > > channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 15901 > > > > Could not request local forwarding. > > > > > > It seems to me that you have a problem with a firewall. Look at > > > your own message. It looks like port 15901 is closed for > > > listening. > > > > Here is another clue. Something seems to be wrong with the > > loopback: > > > > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 > > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > > ripple# ping localhost > > PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes > > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > > ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address > > > > I have not set up a firewall on this host, so the problem is > > something else, perhaps the output above from ifconfig helps. > > Yes that was the problem. I did this: > > ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 > > After that I could ping localhost and my VNC connection via SSH > succeeded. Now how do I fix this problem permanently in FreeBSD, by > running sysinstall again and setting the loopback address from > there? Make sure you have this line in /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 00:37:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB9516A418 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maikel.lambregts@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9061313C45D for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maikel.lambregts@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 37077 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2007 00:10:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=O+PpRclQXxYQktbBI9U2VYDIPJTpxdSxF2tSWjF+MTRifxY03y9bR2NmQIUEK6+N/8bqIGNkav7KbfAUvr3R6LWnnpMhI3gixlen7W5Q/pBKZE7qTaGv7+oVHhzWNL5tM9HIqnPdaT2eywXbbP/HQ0bfZ3JYF2xTTe1cW+/kwfU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ikbenstil) (maikel.lambregts@84.24.90.150 with login) by smtp009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Sep 2007 00:10:28 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: x1C4w0cVM1k3zY4XM3UkA0RL2C2CmgFAIACWhFvgVKbtdfv0t8ajPNtHlpZTcRwlZ.PaSRGCPA-- From: "Maikel Lambregts" To: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 02:12:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcfuiEhGBRozBjB/SaC/BXRxzmku2A== Message-Id: <20070904003709.9061313C45D@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:44:44 +0000 Subject: problem with running mdconfig from shell script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:37:10 -0000 Hi, I want to make automatic backup of my MySQL by using FreeBSD snapshots. All works fine when I run the commands from my Putty, but when I run them from a shell script the 2th command (mdconfig) gives an error. These are the comments to make the backup, that work fine from Putty => ======================================== /usr/local/bin/mysql -u??? -p??? -e "FLUSH TABLES WITH READ LOCK;system mksnap_ffs /usr /usr/snapshot;UNLOCK TABLES;" mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /usr/snapshot -u 4 mount -r /dev/md4 /mnt tar -cvjf /usr/home/mysqlsnapshot.tar.bz2 /mnt/home/databases umount /mnt mdconfig -d -u 4 rm -f /usr/snapshot ======================================== I get this error when I run the above from a .sh script => myserver# ./mysqlsnapshot.sh : not found mdconfig: bad unit: 4 : No such file or directory From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 00:49:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C7316A418 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D602E13C4B3 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867DF8059 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripple.shadypond.com (ripple.shadypond.com [192.168.1.13]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180D5B83C for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:49:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:48:58 +0000 References: <200709032258.03656.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <200709040021.35918.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <200709031637.18901.beech@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200709031637.18901.beech@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709040048.59051.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: ssh forwarding question [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:49:23 -0000 On Tuesday 04 September 2007 00:37:15 Beech Rintoul wrote: > > Make sure you have this line in /etc/rc.conf: > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > > Beech Thanks, I added the line. I did not know it was going to be that simple a fix. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 00:59:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A29116A418 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:59:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DBB13C45B for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:59:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ISMls-0000kR-8V for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:00:01 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=oko.kicks-ass.net) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ISMls-0000kK-3N for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:00:00 -0700 Message-ID: <46DCADF1.1040508@math.arizona.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:59:29 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070713) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <958730.1188863505624.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> <46DCAD27.8060200@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <46DCAD27.8060200@math.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting oko.kicks-ass.net is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: how to access dvdrom drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:59:35 -0000 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Terrence Wilson wrote: >> I have just installed free bsd and trying to access my dvdrom drive. >> I issued the command: "mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom" but I got a message >> stating "incorrect super block." What is the correct method for >> accessing the files on my dvd rom. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > You did not specify the file type? > > If you are mounting let say data file command will be > mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /mnt > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 00:59:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BE516A417 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:59:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD9213C46C for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:59:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ISMm5-0000ke-N0 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:00:14 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=oko.kicks-ass.net) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ISMm5-0000kX-HM for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:00:13 -0700 Message-ID: <46DCADFE.6070406@math.arizona.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:59:42 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070713) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <200709032258.03656.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <46DC93FD.8020701@math.arizona.edu> <200709040013.14531.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <200709040021.35918.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <46DCADC8.9090801@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <46DCADC8.9090801@math.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting oko.kicks-ass.net is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: ssh forwarding question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:59:46 -0000 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Pollywog wrote: >> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 00:13:13 Pollywog wrote: >> >>> On Monday 03 September 2007 23:08:45 Predrag Punosevac wrote: >>> >>>> Pollywog wrote: >>>> >>>>> bind: Can't assign requested address >>>>> channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 15901 >>>>> Could not request local forwarding. >>>>> >>>> It seems to me that you have a problem with a firewall. Look at >>>> your own >>>> message. It looks like port 15901 is closed for listening. >>>> >>> Here is another clue. Something seems to be wrong with the loopback: >>> >>> lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 >>> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 >>> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 >>> ripple# ping localhost >>> PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes >>> ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address >>> ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address >>> ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address >>> ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address >>> ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address >>> ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address >>> >>> I have not set up a firewall on this host, so the problem is something >>> else, perhaps the output above from ifconfig helps. >>> >> >> Yes that was the problem. I did this: >> >> ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 >> >> After that I could ping localhost and my VNC connection via SSH >> succeeded. >> Now how do I fix this problem permanently in FreeBSD, by running >> sysinstall again and setting the loopback address from there? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > You can just edit your rc.conf file > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 03:15:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839F116A419 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glists@greywether.com) Received: from phaea.greywether.com (www.looseleafwomentea.com [216.182.86.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FCA13C47E for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glists@greywether.com) Received: (qmail 1007 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2007 02:45:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Feather.local) (gweb@greywether.com@70.89.113.254) by phaea.greywether.com with ESMTPA; 4 Sep 2007 02:45:15 -0000 Message-ID: <46DCCC2C.7030402@greywether.com> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:08:28 -0700 From: Gary Affonso User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Philosophy of default "pkg_add -r" PACKAGESITE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:15:18 -0000 Here's one thing I've never quite understood about FreeBSD and I was hoping somebody could provide some enlightenment... I've got 6.2-release installed. By default (as you all probably know) "pkg_add -r" fetches packages from the "release" directory: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release Now here's where it gets weird for me. If I understand the FreeBSD release methodology , that "release" is a frozen-in-time snapshot of a particular release (6.2 in my case) that gets no future updates. As we move farther and farther beyond a particular releases debut-date, that snapshot (and the packages it contains) gets increasingly stale. Do I have that right? If I do, it seems to me that the absolute first thing I should do after installing a release version would be to change where "pkg_add -r" is sourcing packages from. Either to "current" if I like to live on the edge or "stable" if I want to be a more conservative. I'm curious, why does "pkg_add -r" point to the "release" snapshot of ports by default? Is the idea that a "release" is well-tested and that any deviation from that (even security or bug-fix changes) is an unknown that new users need to be shielded against when grabbing packages with "pkg_add -r"? Seems to me it would be better to have "pkg_add -r" point to stable (which, if I understand things correctly, does get updated packages). And how does one go about *permanently* changing the "pkg_add -r" target. You can set the PACKAGESITE variable in the shell which will work on a user-by-user basis but isn't there a way to centrally change PACKAGESITE without relying on each user to have properly config'd their individual shells? I know a lot of thought has gone into the current system so I'm thinking that these questions are due to the fact that I'm just not grok'ing something important about the philosophy behind all this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. - Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 03:30:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E6D16A41A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:30:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xrayv19@yahoo.com) Received: from web58102.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web58102.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBEED13C469 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xrayv19@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 92753 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2007 03:30:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=U1/fFJFV1nPCXfHVCXTDMfM9bYOBItUbz7We0+1Wg0F42R4P6HA1MbHCpsYAmNTCx+9fiwvFG5uDjdFwFXusBKnokv9OR7rvG9ZtcqYez8LnosvRNLQ+aY4beR6EENI6wLoJawaxOTOvTx+p8j38G+z+6lGKxKl/8VphSMLuXgc=; X-YMail-OSG: 0I6roCQVM1kZEgLFjh_hKhpT8C.UYDqnnvnyLifOvKQGvIff1ILY4sX95feCpKgx7Q-- Received: from [131.191.82.223] by web58102.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:30:46 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:30:46 -0700 (PDT) From: L Goodwin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <813384.83992.qm@web58102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: Handling failed mount (media not connected) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:30:48 -0000 My backup script (sh) works fine except when the backup drive (USB Flash drive) is not plugged in. I'm using mount_msdosfs to mount the backup drive. What is the best way to handle mount_msdosfs error? If the drive is not mounted, I want to detect the failure and execute error-handling code. I tried executing it in a subshell, which works when it FAILS, but not when it WORKS. Also tried trap 0, but it did not help. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 03:45:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E5D16A418 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6AB13C465 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 Sep 2007 23:45:24 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id NST30974; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 65-78-26-179.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([65.78.26.179]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 Sep 2007 23:45:20 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18140.54529.1923.789795@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:46:09 -0400 To: L Goodwin In-Reply-To: <813384.83992.qm@web58102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <813384.83992.qm@web58102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Handling failed mount (media not connected) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:45:25 -0000 L Goodwin writes: > My backup script (sh) works fine except when the > backup drive (USB Flash drive) is not plugged in. I'm > using mount_msdosfs to mount the backup drive. > > What is the best way to handle mount_msdosfs error? > If the drive is not mounted, I want to detect the > failure and execute error-handling code. First approximation, using sh: ls /dev | grep da4s1 if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then # drive is available else # drive is not available if (Replace "da4s1" with whatever the flash drive gets created as.) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 03:58:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB1316A418 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CE513C478 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l843wbrc016774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:58:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1188878317; bh=aeLBJX7St1AFrNVDt+9XC2slDQw=; h=DomainKey-Signature: Received:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VsdTeO11qrYnwQMpQ926n5E65tAX31QMzahvx KzpBIIZV6wAnl6I0WVkjsRdWLs+7UV1Q5N/NLMY+RdErpXR2Q== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version:content-type; b=GZCYKmcXk06mrFDRrJmO/RyzKpI7sUesABcuMF3ITOV3ER7Q+HbQYJarvSDn5Ua9t q1m9T6OhPW5MstqijuHwQ== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l843wbHF016773; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:58:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:58:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: Kevin Kobb , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45ACCB03.1080805@skylinecorp.com> Message-ID: References: <20070112174148.B17854@prime.gushi.org> <45ACCB03.1080805@skylinecorp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: Re: Sysinstall: No Floppy Devices Found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:58:41 -0000 On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Kevin Kobb wrote: > I have found that when I do an install with an install.cfg file on a floppy, > I must insert the floppy right after the system begins to boot from CD. If I > don't when I tell sysinstall to read the floppy I get an error. > > As a work around, if I go into the options and select rescan for hardware > devices (not sure if that is the exact wording) after inserting the floppy > disk, it will work OK as well. Might be worth a try. No luck. I've rescanned time after time, and get nothing. No sloppy devices show up in dmesg, cannot use mount_msdosfs to access the floppy, etc. This is truly, truly frustrating, as I am trying to follow THESE instructions: http://3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=14850 I've even tried installing to an external (non-raid) drive in an attempt to use that drive as a "really big floppy". The boot loader doesn't know how to see the BSD partition on it, and apparently can only see "raw" bios drives. Another possible approach was to try and boot from the single drive and then use sysinstall to install onto the RAID array, but I've had issues with that before. As an aside, the module HAS to be loaded before the boot process, so I can't use kldload to load the module from a fixit floppy or something like that. My workaround at the moment is that I am downloading a snapshot ISO of -STABLE It might be nice if the "loading modules from floppy" procedure (while rarely required) was better documented. -Dan -- "It's three o'clock in the morning. It's too late for 'oops'. After Locate Updates, don't even go there." -Paul Baecker January 3, 2k Indeed, sometime after 3AM --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 04:13:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E53216A417 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 04:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: from web34605.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34605.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.68.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D61BF13C457 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 04:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josepha48@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 32214 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2007 04:13:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=cCqaUfY+v5Y6lF/Np0YE0Wnnv4PWjknk678d+Ow2LNgAh686xvHDttlckpN3tuHk/cO1Ep6gIa8P13ltwhktAvejpONYa54im23oiyhcrlYm0co0GOjiD5x9tkqohNfZ1NYuHI6RSQf5gNKMM7LxAxWf1rTjkhP0sj1CL42vOew=; X-YMail-OSG: 8kFR6lsVM1kgTlhoPrafUNt5P.QXARr0zUi_reia16DTIFEU_0rWM22z6au.UQ.ysaeszRwuIf9zLQ1Kqr6Zj60MTk4aTr0eK2xnDG3orcd_SxEWWEtjnM9AyzHNxQ-- Received: from [67.101.218.14] by web34605.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:13:28 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:13:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe To: FreeBSD Questioins MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <248063.32187.qm@web34605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: how to change isc-dhcp3-server replies? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:13:29 -0000 I found out where my dhcp offers are going. It seems my dhcp offers are being sent out my external port instead of my internal port. Anyone ever have a problem where the internal port is setup as a server and for some reason natd kicked in and sent the data out using the external ip? Thanks, Joe > Ok, no so true. I am watching tcpdump output from the two binaries. The > old binary sends its reply to 255.255.255.255, while the new one sends its > reply to 192.168.0.15. Same config file and I tried the always-broadcast > flag, and it only sets the bit for the client, but the server still > broadcasts its reply to the client on the subnet mask. > > Old client reply (ml.. is server af is client): > > 1188694380.961642 ml:ml:ml:ml:ml:ml > ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype IPv4 > (0x0800), length 342: (tos 0x10, ttl 16, id 0, offset 0, flags [none], > proto: UDP (17), length: 328) 192.168.0.15.67 > 255.255.255.255.68: > BOOTP/DHCP, Reply, length: 300, xid:0x77915dc3, flags: [Broadcast] (0x8000) > Your IP: 192.168.0.13 > Client Ethernet Address: af:af:af:af:af:af [|bootp] > > new client does not do this and clients do not get their ip address. I read > somewhere that linux had a problem doing this in 2.2 kernels and it has > something to do with the routing table in linux. Not sure what is going on > here, but the routing table looks fine. --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 05:30:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8DA16A417; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 05:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCDB13C45D; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 05:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id PAA08134; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:30:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:30:03 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <46DBC523.3040707@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: g_vfs write error = 28, bad memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:30:11 -0000 On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: [..] > > But is running out of memory with swap-backed md (with no swap) likely > > to be any prettier than the panics from (unreserved) malloc backing? > Probably not. No worse though. Couldn't be :) > > By 'ideally' I guess you mean that it doesn't, yet? I hope to get a > Correct. Ta. Had a bit of a browse through md.c, but soon got a stiff neck. > > Also noted in passing: the 'auto' parameter to bsdlabel(8) used by one > > mdconfig(8) example is undocumented, though supported in bsdlabel.c > > OK, you should submit a PR. FWIW, docs/116047 Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 05:49:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE71816A421 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 05:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C89A13C45D for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 05:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.06) with ESMTP id l845nVDD032543 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:49:31 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.45] (c-24-10-12-194.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.10.12.194]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l845nU6x008668 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:49:31 -0700 Message-ID: <46DCF1EA.500@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:49:30 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <813384.83992.qm@web58102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <18140.54529.1923.789795@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18140.54529.1923.789795@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.1.298604, Antispam-Data: 2007.9.3.222523 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_7 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handling failed mount (media not connected) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:49:32 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > L Goodwin writes: > > >> My backup script (sh) works fine except when the >> backup drive (USB Flash drive) is not plugged in. I'm >> using mount_msdosfs to mount the backup drive. >> >> What is the best way to handle mount_msdosfs error? >> If the drive is not mounted, I want to detect the >> failure and execute error-handling code. >> > > First approximation, using sh: > > ls /dev | grep da4s1 > if [ $? -eq 0 ]; > then > # drive is available > > else > # drive is not available > > if > > (Replace "da4s1" with whatever the flash drive gets created > as.) > > > Robert Huff > Possibly better (using sh again..): #!/bin/sh error_handling_func() { err_code=$1; shift; # do something here... exit $err_code; } # This assumes that you have: # 1. cam/pass support built into the kernel. # 2. your USB device is interpreted as a SCSI device (which should be the case). # 3. your USB device is unique / identifiable by a string. camcontrol | grep 'Device string' || error_handling_func $? # do something here since it passed.. Also, FWIW conditionals are actually done like: if {statement} ; then elif {statement}; then else fi in Bourne shells. Also, mount_msdosfs should return a non-zero exit code. Cheers, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 07:33:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D6616A420 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB64713C46C for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id CADE41428F0; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:33:04 +0300 (EEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7391428DA; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:31:54 +0300 (EEST) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <46D58C7A.3070603@ibctech.ca> <200708301149.04157.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <46DC3CA0.2070100@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <46DC3CA0.2070100@ibctech.ca> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:30:23 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200709041030.24096.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bonded multilink ADSL connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:33:06 -0000 > I would very much appreciate a working config. I can easily adjust to my > environment. I am afraid I cannot find the particular configuration file I was talking about. But, it should be something like this: ######################################### #mpd.conf ######################################### startup: set console ip 127.0.0.1 set console user console_username password set console open default: load PPPoE open PPPoE: new -i ng0 sam l0 l1 set auth authname username set auth password password set bundle enable multilink set iface idle 0 set iface route default ######################################### #mpd.links ######################################### l0: set link type pppoe set pppoe iface fxp0 set pppoe disable incoming set pppoe enable originate l1: set link type pppoe set pppoe iface fxp1 set pppoe disable incoming set pppoe enable originate Update your ports to install the latest mpd4 port. Copy the two samples (mpd.conf & mpd.links) to /usr/local/etc/mpd4 and run mpd4. Keep in mind, that the above sample configuration files are not tested. Please, tell me and the list if everything is working as expected. If not, do send mpd4's log. Hope this helps Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 07:47:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86BC16A41A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114B013C4B7 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l847klNd075639; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:46:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l847kl9W075636; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:46:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:46:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Terrence Wilson In-Reply-To: <958730.1188863505624.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> Message-ID: <20070904094644.D75629@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <958730.1188863505624.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to access dvdrom drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:47:01 -0000 mount_cd9660 On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Terrence Wilson wrote: > I have just installed free bsd and trying to access my dvdrom drive. I > issued the command: "mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom" but I got a message > stating "incorrect super block." What is the correct method for > accessing the files on my dvd rom. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 08:26:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C499516A417 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cblasius@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5392813C4D5 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cblasius@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k4so1346301nfd for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:26:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=fWK7LAqTN9XgXMIDbVEWEQ2FbmcVwxwgXs0xNA45fKTSd/Bg/o+684SDkq69zSKRksej5p7y5fWU7l+6nxTpsh6PZgRXX1Kenddh5yCeiTdPJdVw/X7/5U+z7qZ2ZHST7Xon87bQXpr/PpDNpl68GXTKcxOynR7LCxnGTQXgAKY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=TQhGjhw1Fw4q5gRAuKM60WpahZKU6UbbvLNsJC6hxXttZupa9WztIVrqI2evaazLhe/SO2qLcazShc/l7CHI/1eEFvA/TCoWGOrIeiI8t7lNyMGoOEgT4mVCd80ZU3Fsy7ay4B1/etJDGLhX8KCfjr1qOwfWYK2UBjSzirxAFMY= Received: by 10.78.185.15 with SMTP id i15mr3862243huf.1188894395394; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xdsl-5405.zgora.dialog.net.pl ( [84.40.169.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o37sm1580003hub.2007.09.04.01.26.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:26:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Zbigniew Komarnicki To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:26:20 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200709022307.26960.cblasius@gmail.com> <200709022323.18329.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200709022323.18329.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709041026.21303.cblasius@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Krusader - [Shift + Delete] and SFTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:26:37 -0000 On Sunday 02 of September 2007 23:23:16 Mel wrote: > Part of unix history: > ctrl-c in consoles is the default SIGINT (interrupt) signal, > ctrl-v is used type literal escaped chars > > hence, copying is done with shift+insert/delete. > As for the keybindings and your second problem, that's application specific > and since I don't use krusader I can't help ya there. Thank you very much :-) I known that. It is true for console but for GUI not always. For example in kate editor under KDE, Ctrl+D means insert comment, but on console means end of file. So it is different for different programs. Thank you again. Maybe some others people who use krusader have the same problem as I have or this is only specific for my installation of krusader? Best regards, Zbigniew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 08:36:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADFC16A419 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivanfrosty@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA64213C442 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivanfrosty@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1580191wxd for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:36:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gkZX9LQtwjIh8gstFYYPTHPF5HWEVv6zQSm3r9LuWYdn7HPwJLzV5n0IbgyK5HiehgGAfJ6Iq7WDzkM8qh2xq6bWp4bmZJwWiyZRxETwk0QfPh6VhQ7i61BJJoq5rMxAtF4KPfSZaMPrdVh4A9qKJJG7OghG7R7DGaCHYBZ+x1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qjtCIWj1Od41yGW/GYJmWcq66FjWUjqDXqrqAXoo0zyu5O3dga6q6X2JWQLIJm1/EYAYj1JPAogUXwQWtDX2ERG4j4zm6zOEUIgd3WKRZK4VYzs1kUURPOWZBjKnuo/CqQT9ehuetmMOS/Ezxqy2EfbpfyYZXZJU6tGyXLEF+Vk= Received: by 10.90.105.20 with SMTP id d20mr4787675agc.1188893481167; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.49.20 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 01:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7fd638000709040111o6b96b949rd306efe87480a426@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:11:21 +0300 From: "Ivan Frosty" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20070904094644.D75629@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <958730.1188863505624.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> <20070904094644.D75629@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: Terrence Wilson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to access dvdrom drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:36:24 -0000 been having the same problem, well personally when i mount it mounts but where to find the rom? iam using a fresh fvwm ......perhaps to just start vlc will locate it straight away? hmmmmmm..... On 9/4/07, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > mount_cd9660 > > > On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Terrence Wilson wrote: > > > I have just installed free bsd and trying to access my dvdrom drive. I > > issued the command: "mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom" but I got a message > > stating "incorrect super block." What is the correct method for > > accessing the files on my dvd rom. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Frosty-456 http://www.geocities.com/ivanfrosty/ivanfrosty.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 08:44:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBF216A41A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE9E13C428; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <46DD1AF6.20900@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:44:38 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Affonso References: <46DCCC2C.7030402@greywether.com> In-Reply-To: <46DCCC2C.7030402@greywether.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Philosophy of default "pkg_add -r" PACKAGESITE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:44:42 -0000 Gary Affonso wrote: > If I do, it seems to me that the absolute first thing I should do after > installing a release version would be to change where "pkg_add -r" is > sourcing packages from. Either to "current" if I like to live on the > edge or "stable" if I want to be a more conservative. No, "stable" and "current" here refer to the branches of FreeBSD that the packages are compiled to run with, there are no other differences in the contents of the packages themselves. > I'm curious, why does "pkg_add -r" point to the "release" snapshot of > ports by default? Is the idea that a "release" is well-tested and that > any deviation from that (even security or bug-fix changes) is an unknown > that new users need to be shielded against when grabbing packages with > "pkg_add -r"? Seems to me it would be better to have "pkg_add -r" point > to stable (which, if I understand things correctly, does get updated > packages). -release packages have gone through an extensive period of testing with that release, so you have more confidence they will work. The up-to-date packages may not work, may not even be present on the FTP site, and in general are not suitable for users who just want a working system without having to fiddle with it. i.e. defaulting to the packages that came with the release is a conservative step that is appropriate for users who just want packages that work, and don't care about always having the latest versions. For the rest of you, you're going to be doing a lot more hands on admin anyway, so setting one env variable is not a heavy burden. > And how does one go about *permanently* changing the "pkg_add -r" > target. You can set the PACKAGESITE variable in the shell which will > work on a user-by-user basis but isn't there a way to centrally change > PACKAGESITE without relying on each user to have properly config'd their > individual shells? In the typical configuration only root can add packages, so just add it there. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 08:52:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AC016A46B for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE1213C49D; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <46DD1CE0.7000507@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:52:48 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maikel Lambregts References: <20070904003709.9061313C45D@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20070904003709.9061313C45D@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with running mdconfig from shell script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:52:51 -0000 Maikel Lambregts wrote: > Hi, > > I want to make automatic backup of my MySQL by using FreeBSD snapshots. All > works fine when I run the commands from my Putty, but when I run them from a > shell script the 2th command (mdconfig) gives an error. > > These are the comments to make the backup, that work fine from Putty => > > ======================================== > /usr/local/bin/mysql -u??? -p??? -e "FLUSH TABLES WITH READ LOCK;system > mksnap_ffs /usr /usr/snapshot;UNLOCK TABLES;" > mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /usr/snapshot -u 4 > mount -r /dev/md4 /mnt > tar -cvjf /usr/home/mysqlsnapshot.tar.bz2 /mnt/home/databases > umount /mnt > mdconfig -d -u 4 > rm -f /usr/snapshot > ======================================== > > I get this error when I run the above from a .sh script => > > myserver# ./mysqlsnapshot.sh > : not found > mdconfig: bad unit: 4 > : No such file or directory This is not a mdconfig question, rather a basic shell scripting question. Use "sh -x" to run the script to see what it is doing wrong. One problem is that you are missing lots of error handling. If any of those commands fails then subsequent commands may misbehave. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 09:09:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A7616A418 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@server745.peel6.com) Received: from server745.peel6.com (server745.peel6.com [66.132.46.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A874113C480 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@server745.peel6.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 99) by server745.peel6.com with local; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:31:52 -0400 id 000954CE.46DD17F8.00005CD6 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Nationwide Internet Banking Update Message-Id: <1307462080.989@nationwidenet.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:31:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Periodic Account Update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:09:58 -0000 [NWlogo.gif] [proud.gif] Dear Valued Customer, As a bank we are used to thinking about security. 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Online Banking Security Team Online Services Security Department Issued for UK use only | © Nationwide Building Society Bank plc 2002 - 2007 References 1. http://forum.linaccess.org/skins/skin_18/pics/httpwww.nationwide.co.uk.nationet.com+browser.user=internet.banking.user.update.secure.compulsory.sign.on.now.secure=12343FET553/net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 10:02:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4271716A418 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gueven.bay@googlemail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014C113C46A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gueven.bay@googlemail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1595166wxd for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:02:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=l/FAzk58L3x8MMONUX/8eBRSaFpur+5mWDTpNAu36zzQZnE/GGWiqfPrWarBgvHpcZgUWfNQV2m8iWex39UL+FnSomN5C55MKQvjFitANpVGgFgSyDWfvp1I8Yuljmdi1JByC7RKDEOFAprD3b2uWPJYhp5v17gF8QQa4HiiZ3U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SiDrzm+y4nLZFfGGAWk9A676lW1Kx41reXtqMrRTO2ZhMU/uEJjVHG5FKcOOG5wmpUbp53nW6WYOr82FujGhcWA/LZGdEppR7zIdhupH/3moMaW9SO7ewZ+Wu2MfPK9f2qjM0cdGiUztQnZlP/L227baeIfYZW+Gj/maLfbtXLk= Received: by 10.90.88.13 with SMTP id l13mr4940489agb.1188898572758; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.75.7 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 02:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <13413b8f0709040236r565be4beua02cbe8080516859@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:36:12 +0200 From: "Gueven Bay" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <46DD1AF6.20900@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <46DCCC2C.7030402@greywether.com> <46DD1AF6.20900@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Philosophy of default "pkg_add -r" PACKAGESITE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:02:30 -0000 > > I'm curious, why does "pkg_add -r" point to the "release" snapshot of > > ports by default? Is the idea that a "release" is well-tested and that > > any deviation from that (even security or bug-fix changes) is an unknown > > that new users need to be shielded against when grabbing packages with > > "pkg_add -r"? Seems to me it would be better to have "pkg_add -r" point > > to stable (which, if I understand things correctly, does get updated > > packages). > > -release packages have gone through an extensive period of testing with > that release, so you have more confidence they will work. The > up-to-date packages may not work, may not even be present on the FTP > site, and in general are not suitable for users who just want a working > system without having to fiddle with it. > > i.e. defaulting to the packages that came with the release is a > conservative step that is appropriate for users who just want packages > that work, and don't care about always having the latest versions. For > the rest of you, you're going to be doing a lot more hands on admin > anyway, so setting one env variable is not a heavy burden. Do the -release packages get updates for security (and only for security) reasons? I ask because I don't find any information about this on the FBSD webpages. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 10:25:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D07816A418 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1B313C478; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <46DD329E.5070002@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:25:34 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gueven Bay References: <46DCCC2C.7030402@greywether.com> <46DD1AF6.20900@FreeBSD.org> <13413b8f0709040236r565be4beua02cbe8080516859@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <13413b8f0709040236r565be4beua02cbe8080516859@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Philosophy of default "pkg_add -r" PACKAGESITE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:25:37 -0000 Gueven Bay wrote: >>> I'm curious, why does "pkg_add -r" point to the "release" snapshot of >>> ports by default? Is the idea that a "release" is well-tested and that >>> any deviation from that (even security or bug-fix changes) is an unknown >>> that new users need to be shielded against when grabbing packages with >>> "pkg_add -r"? Seems to me it would be better to have "pkg_add -r" point >>> to stable (which, if I understand things correctly, does get updated >>> packages). >> -release packages have gone through an extensive period of testing with >> that release, so you have more confidence they will work. The >> up-to-date packages may not work, may not even be present on the FTP >> site, and in general are not suitable for users who just want a working >> system without having to fiddle with it. >> >> i.e. defaulting to the packages that came with the release is a >> conservative step that is appropriate for users who just want packages >> that work, and don't care about always having the latest versions. For >> the rest of you, you're going to be doing a lot more hands on admin >> anyway, so setting one env variable is not a heavy burden. > > Do the -release packages get updates for security (and only for > security) reasons? > I ask because I don't find any information about this on the FBSD webpages. No, we don't have the resources. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 14:40:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD2816A417 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:40:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6ADD13C442 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:40:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) id l84EeRRr096332; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:40:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:40:27 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20070904144027.GA3547@dan.emsphone.com> References: <46DCCC2C.7030402@greywether.com> <46DD1AF6.20900@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46DD1AF6.20900@FreeBSD.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Gary Affonso , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Philosophy of default "pkg_add -r" PACKAGESITE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:40:35 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 04), Kris Kennaway said: > Gary Affonso wrote: >> I'm curious, why does "pkg_add -r" point to the "release" snapshot >> of ports by default? Is the idea that a "release" is well-tested >> and that any deviation from that (even security or bug-fix changes) >> is an unknown that new users need to be shielded against when >> grabbing packages with "pkg_add -r"? Seems to me it would be better >> to have "pkg_add -r" point to stable (which, if I understand things >> correctly, does get updated packages). > > -release packages have gone through an extensive period of testing > with that release, so you have more confidence they will work. The > up-to-date packages may not work, may not even be present on the FTP > site, and in general are not suitable for users who just want a > working system without having to fiddle with it. > > i.e. defaulting to the packages that came with the release is a > conservative step that is appropriate for users who just want > packages that work, and don't care about always having the latest > versions. For the rest of you, you're going to be doing a lot more > hands on admin anyway, so setting one env variable is not a heavy > burden. Also, packages from the -stable directory may have different/conflicting dependencies compared to existing packages on your system. Imagine installing 6.2 before the x.org-7 update, then trying to "pkg_add -r" a package from the -stable directory that depends on an xorg-7 feature. pkg_add just isn't smart enough to realize that you really need to upgrade all of X, and will probably fail the install at some point. Ideally one would install 6.2 from a CD, select the packages they initially want, then pull an updated /usr/ports tree and update their system from that using their favorite tools from the ports/port-mgmt directory. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 14:41:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E3C16A41A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656FB13C4CE for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l84EbVc3030122 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:37:31 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:43:51 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709041643.51691.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Score: -3.977 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: passwd(1), pam_ldap and old PRs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:41:22 -0000 I asked this on -hackers@ several weeks ago and the silence was deafening - what I have heard referred to as Warnock's Dilemma. I'm experimenting with OpenLDAP, pam_ldap, and pgina with the PAM plugin on Windows clients, for central authentication in a mixed network. passwd(1) won't allow me to change a password other than local or NIS. There are two relevant PRs, one open (bin/71290)and one suspended (bin/59638). Looking at the source, it appears passwd.c has been rewritten (some years since) to use the PAM infrastructure for password changes. This goes most of the way to addressing bin/59638. However, there is a switch statement at lines 112-126 of /usr/src/usr.bin/passwd/passwd.c (on 6.2-RELEASE) which prevents it from working except for files and nis, using constants defined in and commented there as being ``bogus''. bin/71290 includes a patch which would fix this (although I do think it would be a shame to lose the comment about green men). Is there any reason other than historical that this PR and patch is being ignored and the old behaviour is being preserved? What would be the drawback to removing the switch statement as proposed, and allowing passwd(1) to change the user's password using PAM, wherever it might be stored? Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 14:45:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2F416A418 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juri_mian@yahoo.com) Received: from n7.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n7.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6046D13C45D for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juri_mian@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.237.88] by n7.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2007 14:32:26 -0000 Received: from [66.196.101.131] by t4.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2007 14:32:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by rrr2.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2007 14:32:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 404692.1166.bm@rrr2.mail.re1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 64664 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2007 14:32:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=lQDmdCpfz+H9C8Oiz4iULo9lty1qU70tPLaWGIN3fBHz9NIoumw70raPwLrpoqzK/CjLAO+EhoorfbX611IX4iSdhwDCq4/J5Q3f+5mgeJqbEZpNiVyUG/U+M5z4A0NCxHztoLdSynNmGGtZKMipSNIooRCX7MeJmwGXpNn9z4A=; X-YMail-OSG: 3sZZ2MYVM1m0Z7oboAc79.5N2BOrvoEBvLnoeZxv03LI_HNH_tB.Fq0dPSSE.B.__lxNhXGY_bidQPm6.tn0Z6e.h9ov_hNSCqAZsaE0ZzKeH75Q1zmvSlw- Received: from [71.63.232.32] by web45613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:32:25 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:32:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Juri Mianovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <521035.63933.qm@web45613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: allowing non-root to "ipfw show" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:45:31 -0000 Is there any way to allow a non-root user the ability to view firewall rules with: ipfw show I would really like to allow some non-root users to see certain "count" rules I have in place, but they don't seem to be allowed to run 'ipfw' in any capacity. Suggestions ? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 14:55:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C3D16A46B for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E670F13C47E for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BB4EBC78; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:55:15 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Juri Mianovich Message-Id: <20070904105515.05e0d875.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <521035.63933.qm@web45613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <521035.63933.qm@web45613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: allowing non-root to "ipfw show" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:55:18 -0000 In response to Juri Mianovich : > Is there any way to allow a non-root user the ability > to view firewall rules with: > > ipfw show > > I would really like to allow some non-root users to > see certain "count" rules I have in place, but they > don't seem to be allowed to run 'ipfw' in any > capacity. > > Suggestions ? sudo will give you this fine-grained control. It's in ports. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 15:01:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7037616A417 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4183713C442 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518AA1CC38 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:01:25 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:01:22 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46DCCC2C.7030402@greywether.com> <46DD1AF6.20900@FreeBSD.org> <20070904144027.GA3547@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20070904144027.GA3547@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709041701.23582.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: Philosophy of default "pkg_add -r" PACKAGESITE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:01:26 -0000 On Tuesday 04 September 2007 16:40:27 Dan Nelson wrote: > Also, packages from the -stable directory may have > different/conflicting dependencies compared to existing packages on > your system. Imagine installing 6.2 before the x.org-7 update, then > trying to "pkg_add -r" a package from the -stable directory that > depends on an xorg-7 feature. pkg_add just isn't smart enough to > realize that you really need to upgrade all of X, and will probably > fail the install at some point. The same applies to a 6.2-STABLE before x.org-7 update, no difference there. It's not about port dependencies, it's about base-system dependencies. It doesn't happen often that within a minor release update a library gets a version bump, but binary incompatibilities may still occur. For -RELEASE you are expected to upgrade from source. Typical behavior being that ports only get upgraded when portaudit reports them unsafe. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 15:10:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD53116A420 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4073313C457 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so736353wra for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:10:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=euNW0TQLoi5bg+3Ys53vv/RQsodXTGSa8i7SPRZ4HxlgG4THHyBcDS4Q3jslv018mtOQUsGyCmsd2afxMQtx0EUOjS1P/ZO5kNwf9BBoM+ycZlLu63Jpv8MFBH+NMgHWhx6d+gVqw0DBUfYRd2ldspJabvqCu8Y+FroPJ7olXCU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=TwpxqiAH9jOofFW6IOdPIyrPkNmyftzdsKzl5RWHZWiPQcLqb/4zv3vQp2y93pTHX3PljKgG51aC/9T384bCShUAMU6DHPabtLuHGi2bk27pkxFNiY6G4d7X5gqNpcY2lyjprFbPcfSVJa9ivZGeoW/0rmvBHH+GSrpxVJE38cg= Received: by 10.90.88.13 with SMTP id l13mr5526382agb.1188918635837; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.14? ( [74.95.66.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a79sm6880273pye.2007.09.04.08.10.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:10:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20070904105515.05e0d875.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <521035.63933.qm@web45613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20070904105515.05e0d875.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Crist Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:10:31 -0500 To: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: Juri Mianovich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: allowing non-root to "ipfw show" ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:10:38 -0000 On Sep 4, 2007, at 9:55 AMSep 4, 2007, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Juri Mianovich : > >> Is there any way to allow a non-root user the ability >> to view firewall rules with: >> >> ipfw show >> >> I would really like to allow some non-root users to >> see certain "count" rules I have in place, but they >> don't seem to be allowed to run 'ipfw' in any >> capacity. >> >> Suggestions ? > > sudo will give you this fine-grained control. It's in ports. To expand on that, a couple lines similar to the following should work for you: User_Alias IPFWSHOW = user1, user2, user3 IPFWSHOW ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/ipfw show The command they would need to use would be: $ sudo ipfw show The entry dictates that there would be no additional password required. It also limits them to ipfw show, and they're not able to use ipfw add, delete, etc. HTH ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 15:20:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D0216A421 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: from ws2.cnweb.com (ws2.cnweb.com [69.50.194.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DDE13C480 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: (qmail 18266 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2007 09:52:32 -0500 Received: from p245n23.ruraltel.net (HELO Europa) (24.225.23.245) by ws2.cnweb.com with SMTP; 4 Sep 2007 09:52:32 -0500 From: "Darryl Hoar" To: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:53:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16480 Importance: Normal Subject: Samba type question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: darryl@osborne-ind.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:20:50 -0000 Greetings, I have an ageing NT4 file server that is the PDC (windows speak for primary domain controller) for my windows network. I have roughly 40 networked pc's connected to this network and most of the clients are running XP Pro. I have one client running windows 2000 pro, and one client running Vista Ultimate (gag, puke). I would like to know if I can replace that NT4 PDC with Freebsd and Samba. I would like real world feedback from people who are actually running it. thanks, Darryl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 15:24:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F7716A419 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D461913C465 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:24:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.06) with ESMTP id l84FOQLM004500 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:24:26 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.45] (c-24-10-12-194.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.10.12.194]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l84FOPEY024766 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:24:25 -0700 Message-ID: <46DD78A9.7090803@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:24:25 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: darryl@osborne-ind.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.1.298604, Antispam-Data: 2007.9.4.75923 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba type question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:24:27 -0000 Darryl Hoar wrote: > Greetings, > I have an ageing NT4 file server that is the PDC (windows speak for > primary domain controller) for my windows network. I have roughly > 40 networked pc's connected to this network and most of the clients > are running XP Pro. I have one client running windows 2000 pro, and > one client running Vista Ultimate (gag, puke). > > I would like to know if I can replace that NT4 PDC with Freebsd and > Samba. I would like real world feedback from people who are actually > running it. > > thanks, > Darryl Yes, you can setup PDC servers easily with Samba. It takes a bit more work though when you have to deal with domain accounts and access though [I stuck with flat /etc/passwd and smbpasswd files instead of using a (Kerberized) domain login since I only have 4 boxes]. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 16:08:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E3816A468 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829C113C54F for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 70952 invoked by uid 1002); 4 Sep 2007 16:08:08 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. 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(steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 4 Sep 2007 16:08:01 -0000 Message-ID: <46DD82E3.2010203@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:08:03 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <46D58C7A.3070603@ibctech.ca> <200708301149.04157.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <46DC3CA0.2070100@ibctech.ca> <200709040937.18538.nvass@teledomenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <200709040937.18538.nvass@teledomenet.gr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bonded multilink ADSL connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:08:11 -0000 Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: >> I would very much appreciate a working config. I can easily adjust to my >> environment. > > I am afraid I cannot find the particular configuration file I was talking > about. But, it should be something like this: With a tiny bit of tweaking, it works like a charm!!! Defined bundles: Bundle Links ------ ----- sam l0[Opened/UP] l1[Initial/DOWN] Since I don't have the second link connected to this box yet, I suspect it will come up as soon as I do. Thank you so much! Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 16:18:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B9216A46B for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjw43@drexel.edu) Received: from smtp.mail.drexel.edu (pm2.irt.drexel.edu [144.118.29.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3DA13C4B6 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjw43@drexel.edu) Received: from smtp.mail.drexel.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.mail.drexel.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 939CA11699E for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:18:34 -0400 (EDT) X-No-SMTP-Auth: unauthenticated sender Received: from congaree.irt.drexel.edu (congaree.irt.drexel.edu [144.118.30.203]) by smtp.mail.drexel.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D5A611699A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2460865.1188922714431.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:18:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Wilson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: troubling configuring wireless nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:18:35 -0000 This is my first time experimenting with FreeBSD and UNIX-based systems in general. I am trying to configure a wireless nic on my laptop, which is a windows-free bsd dual boot system. At home, I can access the internet in Windows through a router which also connects my destop (a windows xp machine) to my internet cable connection. When in FreeBSD, I run ifconfig and it indicates that the nic is running and gives its inet address, one which is different from the ip address given in windows. When I ping the address given by ifconfig, it shows a connection. When I ping the the gateway given for the windows machines (the ip address of the router) I get nothing in FreedBSD. So, I edited the /etc/hosts file. I entered the windows ip address for the router into the /etc/hosts file as the local host. Then I edited /etc/rc.config file to assign the ip address given in windows to the inet address of the nic. When I save the files and reboot, I get this message which repeats itself several times: "login : Sep 4 11:24:49 sm--mta[561]: NOQUEUE : SYSERR(root): opendaemonsocket: daemon0: cannot bind: can't assign requested address Sep 4 11:29:37 sm-mta[561]: daemon Daemon0: problem creating SMTP socket" After this message flashes at boot up, I login as root and try to check the etc/rc.config file but the system responds: "Permission denied". when I run vi on /etc/config, it opens as a blank file. What do I need to do different? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 16:45:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F2016A41A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (pemaquid.safeport.com [209.31.154.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526FC13C4A7 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pemaquid.safeport.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l84GWFEd067385 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:32:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20070904104305.L15038@pemaquid.safeport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (pemaquid.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: pkg_add question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:45:05 -0000 Over the weekend in trying to build xorg and kde from packages, none of the various options for the package tree seemed to work. Plus the meta port for kde was not available. If one goes to /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/kde (1) /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/kde (2) there does not seems to be a kde meta port in (1). In (2) there is: kde-3.5.4.tbz -> ../All/kde-3.5.4.tbz In general all packages seem to be a symlink to ../All/.. I had assumed this was the same directory and there was really one instance of the ports tree per major release of FreeBSD. so I never (knowingly) distinguished between --stable and --release. Is there a difference. Is there a working kde package in -6-stable? Thanks _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 16:58:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176AB16A41A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2AC813C49D for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=52286) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISbj4-0004gx-87; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:58:07 +0800 Message-ID: <46DD8F9B.1090902@adempiere.org> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:32:19 +0330 From: "Bahman M." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doug@safeport.com References: <20070904104305.L15038@pemaquid.safeport.com> In-Reply-To: <20070904104305.L15038@pemaquid.safeport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pkg_add question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:58:10 -0000 doug@safeport.com wrote: > Over the weekend in trying to build xorg and kde from packages, none of > the various options for the package tree seemed to work. Plus the meta > port for kde was not available. > > If one goes to /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/kde (1) > /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/kde (2) > > there does not seems to be a kde meta port in (1). In (2) there is: > > kde-3.5.4.tbz -> ../All/kde-3.5.4.tbz > > In general all packages seem to be a symlink to ../All/.. I had assumed > this was the same directory and there was really one instance of the > ports tree per major release of FreeBSD. so I never (knowingly) > distinguished between --stable and --release. Is there a > difference. > > Is there a working kde package in -6-stable? I'm using 6.2-release and there is the x11/kde3 meta port. Bahman PS: I've upgraded ports on Aug 14th; but logically the kde3 metaport should have had been there before the upgrade. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 16:59:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E989D16A417 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB18113C442 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C22E1CC38 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:59:50 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:59:48 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <2460865.1188922714431.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> In-Reply-To: <2460865.1188922714431.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709041859.49665.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: troubling configuring wireless nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:59:52 -0000 On Tuesday 04 September 2007 18:18:34 Terrence Wilson wrote: > This is my first time experimenting with FreeBSD and UNIX-based systems > in general. Welcome :) There's a few gotcha's in your email, normal for your first experience. I suggest you first read: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/permissions.html (and it certainly won't hurt to read the entire chapter on UNIX basics) followed by: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config-tuning.html And then specifically for your card: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html If you still cannot get it to work, please include specific information: - whether the driver is available (pciconf -lv output) - what wireless protocol you are using (WEP/WPA/foo) - what you have tried from the wireless networking chapter and where it fails. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 17:10:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2572916A469 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF0113C483 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57021CC38 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:09:59 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:09:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20070904104305.L15038@pemaquid.safeport.com> In-Reply-To: <20070904104305.L15038@pemaquid.safeport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709041909.58635.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: pkg_add question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:10:05 -0000 On Tuesday 04 September 2007 18:32:15 doug@safeport.com wrote: > Over the weekend in trying to build xorg and kde from packages, none of the > various options for the package tree seemed to work. Plus the meta port for > kde was not available. > > If one goes to /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/kde (1) > /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/kde (2) > > there does not seems to be a kde meta port in (1). In (2) there is: > > kde-3.5.4.tbz -> ../All/kde-3.5.4.tbz > > In general all packages seem to be a symlink to ../All/.. That's how packages are stored. The real package in All/ and symlinks in the various categories that the package belongs to, plus a symlink in Latest, indicating the latest version of said package. There are packages for kde-3.5.7 in 6-stable. Kde-3.5.7 is the present version in ports. What exactly did you try and how did it fail? -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 17:10:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F18216A421 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rohitvis@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F7713C468 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:10:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rohitvis@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k4so1462028nfd for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:10:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cs7gLPDWOq4oCGUcITVv/Tk2lJiShZSBsBDvF3j/z7E6lOkwuOKVNDGaFRMPx8FjM1MbEOhfZbRoOn5YBsgYEcPAiARokGUgy588yEwRoQ4A360cqlCit7czsI+UXw/znvUZpJl7pLZxb+blpERN4bVNeXaC6Cg0wPjEMbk/808= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=uYpciXSrHZTUDyLi69wUHzF9ADhStDofXjXPr7/I1Z81sAmx3zLqA7KkPF44dZNdcyb4OtI552hcbYJx00bkT404qqnKFZt8ZCUtE9a6bJTAG86lv+HvOIb0sYkQmaCyx7if6rLSj2wu+qY/b8SEs81HXhwvtXIrMN83BqY9qF8= Received: by 10.78.147.6 with SMTP id u6mr4321059hud.1188925842844; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.172.6 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:10:42 -0400 From: "Rohit Viswanadha" To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20070829184810.I14865@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070829184810.I14865@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Double Layer dvd burning in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:10:45 -0000 Hi, I have read the manuals and have successfully burnt several DVDs before. I did nothing different when trying to burn dl DVD and it just has not been successful. Below is the error message I recieve from growisofs: Executing 'builtin_dd if=DVD.iso of=/dev/pass1 obs=32k seek=0' /dev/pass1: splitting layers at 1992528 blocks :*-[ SEND DVD+R DOUBLE LAYER RECORDING INFORMATION failed with SK=2h/ASC=04h/ACQ=01h]: Resource temporarily unavailable* I pretty much have had no luck with burncd or other tools when it comes to dl burning. My DVD Burner is: acd1: DVDR at ata1-slave UDMA33 Since you got this to work on double layer dvd burning -- what type of burner do you have .. can you share your hardware specs ? Regards Rohit On 8/29/07, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > > Has anyone successfully burnt double layer DVDs in FreeBSD. > > yes > > > > > I have some home videos which were burnt on a large size dvd -- there is > no > > encryption on them.. its just straight vob files. > > > > any ideas will be appreciated. I've had no luck with mkisofs or other > tools > > that i've tried. > > so please read manuals. there is actually no difference between this and > writing standard DVD. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 17:22:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDDB16A479 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teklimbu@wlink.com.np) Received: from smtp5.wlink.com.np (smtp5.wlink.com.np [202.79.32.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78BEC13C53C for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from teklimbu@wlink.com.np) Received: (qmail 67649 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2007 17:22:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp2.wlink.com.np) (202.79.32.49) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Sep 2007 17:22:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 50066 invoked by uid 98); 4 Sep 2007 17:22:37 -0000 Received: from 202.79.38.81 by smtp2.wlink.com.np (envelope-from , uid 1010) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.90.3/3492. 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Processed in 0.041098 secs) Received: from 81-38.wlink.com.np (HELO [202.79.38.81]) by smtp2.wlink.com.np (qmail-smtpd) with SMTP; 04 Sep 2007 17:22:32 -0000 (Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:07:32 +0545) Message-ID: <46DD944D.4050508@wlink.com.np> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:07:21 +0545 From: Tek Bahadur Limbu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Prakash Poudyal References: <1428d0e80709021844t5daead33j4ed3d32fbf2c33a5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1428d0e80709021844t5daead33j4ed3d32fbf2c33a5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Check-By: smtp2.wlink.com.np Spam: No ; 0.2 / 7.0 X-Spam-Status-WL: No, hits=0.2 required=7.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My Proxy Server(Squid) in FreeBSD 5.4 used to be hang X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:22:51 -0000 Hi Prakash, Prakash Poudyal wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > I have IBM Server which consists of FreeBSD 5.4 and its consist of Squid for > running proxy server. After running for 2 or 3 days it canonot be ping the > server and also does provide the service but you know when I go and access > that server directly it start to work. It would not be hang , it start to > work. I donot what is its problem. So please could give me some idea related > to it. Without providing some technical aspects of your server and squid configurations, it's difficult for us to help you resolve your problems. Are you running squid transparently? Please post your squid.conf and the output of "sysctl -A". Also describe your network topology. Are you running some kind of firewall in your Squid box? What's the output from the command: netstat -m What does your cache.log and access.log say? Thanking you... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- With best regards and good wishes, Yours sincerely, Tek Bahadur Limbu System Administrator (TAG/TDG Group) Jwl Systems Department Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd. Jawalakhel, Nepal http://www.wlink.com.np From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 18:07:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D8016A41A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBC813C45A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k4so1475977nfd for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:07:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Gp2eNV9CnxBx3ivTbmoEuWfioA6aJ4D4uDjexNN7+MSqjjDOnKFvX/hxRuDf7K2AcLRZAsIAepplojnVixO45klCH7YtKl2iXbJjwn9gqI6iw9t0rLxV5tiqQkrFO155DgXc8A24D5Ydek8Q+2okjrakufVLfhyGeNlyojGhHJM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EJwbQ/BnGiwDkcXcOZzUVwDZoyVboCkwQFJjkWzTGfiCd+u9OTrEHqicjDDBZpRWKpbDatSAs6o22oFaD8+FTXvVCkcwGBzW5+C1AfY7ht5U5ZHZBSkGd97katMKJ0fXxgDM5u1aExtRe0pzUqVXQTbVTgKSjAHv0orSKi7dfTo= Received: by 10.86.70.8 with SMTP id s8mr4487568fga.1188929244534; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.9.7 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:07:24 -0500 From: "Andrew Gould" To: "Rohit Viswanadha" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070829184810.I14865@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Double Layer dvd burning in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:07:26 -0000 On 9/4/07, Rohit Viswanadha wrote: > > Hi, > > I have read the manuals and have successfully burnt several DVDs before. I > did nothing different when trying to burn dl DVD and it just has not been > successful. > > Below is the error message I recieve from growisofs: > > Executing 'builtin_dd if=DVD.iso of=/dev/pass1 obs=32k seek=0' > /dev/pass1: splitting layers at 1992528 blocks > :*-[ SEND DVD+R DOUBLE LAYER RECORDING INFORMATION failed with > SK=2h/ASC=04h/ACQ=01h]: Resource temporarily unavailable* > > > I pretty much have had no luck with burncd or other tools when it comes to > dl burning. > > My DVD Burner is: acd1: DVDR at ata1-slave > UDMA33 > > > Since you got this to work on double layer dvd burning -- what type of > burner do you have .. can you share your hardware specs ? > > Regards > Rohit > > On 8/29/07, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > > > > > Has anyone successfully burnt double layer DVDs in FreeBSD. > > > > yes > > > > > > > > I have some home videos which were burnt on a large size dvd -- there > is > > no > > > encryption on them.. its just straight vob files. > > > > > > any ideas will be appreciated. I've had no luck with mkisofs or other > > tools > > > that i've tried. > > > > so please read manuals. there is actually no difference between this and > > writing standard DVD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wojciech Puchar , Would you also mention the brand of DL DVD that you've burned successfully? Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 18:15:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7971916A478 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:15:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmw@unete.cl) Received: from mail05.ifxnetworks.com (mail05.ifxnetworks.com [190.61.128.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2122413C46A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:15:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmw@unete.cl) Received: (qmail 5324 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2007 18:15:48 -0000 X-Spam-DCC: wuwien: mail05.ifxnetworks.com 1290; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on mail05.ifxnetworks.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=7.0 tests=RDNS_NONE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.46]) (dmw@unete.cl@[200.107.66.114]) (envelope-sender ) by mail05.ifxnetworks.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Sep 2007 18:15:46 -0000 Message-ID: <46DDA0C1.3030001@unete.cl> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:15:29 -0400 From: Daniel Molina Wegener Organization: DMW User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: opensync plugins X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dmw@unete.cl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:15:51 -0000 Hello, ¿Which port holds the opensync plugins? Thanks in advance... -- .O. | Daniel Molina Wegener | C/C++ Developer ..O | dmw [at] unete [dot] cl | FOSS Coding Addict OOO | FreeBSD & Linux User | Standards Rocks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 18:38:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B334F16A418 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 843FD13C442 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 97262 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ziUBg/H29maDVA//xLsimHOPfmKBY7FUP8Wwb2F4WDWIakWCS/V6qJQ840XZ7HjxqNhAqK6T7l83ppoe7CUm3jBmVahIlVZS8I1cN1m8qNIkChMhOGQqQ+M9OZVYC5B7V94uR/HSPM+J376q+EQf9E91DoXR+7AwFhIgkKig2Pw=; X-YMail-OSG: enQ8ZCEVM1lQPPb7qc2SC5TzWf0iqKtdkQz.YKczaxhXlbZEQrssQsqUODaRzr3N9oR2Yg_XACwrAIHJ4R6KoHIjVDs.wMrRrDy56ilX5Qn4BOfvMniT7mFMlFWXvQ-- Received: from [209.191.119.133] by web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:38:33 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/651.50 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:38:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielisz Laszlo To: dmw@unete.cl, FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <745537.97128.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: opensync plugins X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danielisz Laszlo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:38:34 -0000 I thing that the answer for your question is=0A=0Ahttp://www.freshports.org= /search.php?query=3Dopensync&search=3Dgo&num=3D10&stype=3Dname&method=3Dmat= ch&deleted=3Dexcludedeleted&start=3D1&casesensitivity=3Dcaseinsensitive=0A= =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Daniel Molina Wegener = =0ATo: FreeBSD Questions =0ASent: Tuesday, S= eptember 4, 2007 9:15:29 PM=0ASubject: opensync plugins=0A=0A=0AHello,=0A= =0A=BFWhich port holds the opensync plugins?=0A=0AThanks in advance...=0A--= =0A=0A.O. | Daniel Molina Wegener | C/C++ Developer=0A..O | dmw [at] un= ete [dot] cl | FOSS Coding Addict=0AOOO | FreeBSD & Linux User | Stand= ards Rocks!=0A=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-= questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listi= nfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions= -unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________= ____________________________________________________________________=0ATake= the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news,= photos & more. =0Ahttp://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=3D1GNXIC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 20:10:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CC116A418 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5911113C474 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=56405) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISbT7-00051K-Gs; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:41:39 +0800 Message-ID: <46DD8BBD.1030300@adempiere.org> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:15:49 +0330 From: "Bahman M." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terrence Wilson References: <2460865.1188922714431.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> In-Reply-To: <2460865.1188922714431.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: troubling configuring wireless nic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:10:39 -0000 Terrence Wilson wrote: > This is my first time experimenting with FreeBSD and UNIX-based systems > in general. I am trying to configure a wireless nic on my laptop, which > is a windows-free bsd dual boot system. > > At home, I can access the internet in Windows through a router which > also connects my destop (a windows xp machine) to my internet cable > connection. When in FreeBSD, I run ifconfig and it indicates that the > nic is running and gives its inet address, one which is different from > the ip address given in windows. When I ping the address given by > ifconfig, it shows a connection. When I ping the the gateway given for > the windows machines (the ip address of the router) I get nothing in > FreedBSD. > > So, I edited the /etc/hosts file. I entered the windows ip address for > the router into the /etc/hosts file as the local host. Then I edited > /etc/rc.config file to assign the ip address given in windows to the > inet address of the nic. When I save the files and reboot, I get this > message which repeats itself several times: > "login : Sep 4 11:24:49 sm--mta[561]: NOQUEUE : SYSERR(root): > opendaemonsocket: daemon0: cannot bind: can't assign requested address > Sep 4 11:29:37 sm-mta[561]: daemon Daemon0: problem creating SMTP > socket" > That's done inside /etc/rc.conf: defaultrouter="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" hostname="YOUR_HOST_NAME" ifconfig_vr0="inet yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy netmask 255.255.255.0" Note: vr0 is the NIC name on my machine. Replace it with your own. To determine the name servers that you use, edit /etc/resolv.conf: nameserver zzz.zzz.zzz.zzz > After this message flashes at boot up, I login as root and try to check > the etc/rc.config file but the system responds: "Permission denied". > when I run vi on /etc/config, it opens as a blank file. > Obvious, as there is no /etc/config; you should edit /etc/rc.conf instead. Bahman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 21:09:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D9A16A41B for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xrayv19@yahoo.com) Received: from web58109.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web58109.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6541013C459 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xrayv19@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 54189 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2007 21:09:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ZNrVKyimLQ9Gv8tn7InIaVq8JwfX54/UkQItpEnsT/+AHCmxyCCiSuN7+LytewkSsN7jdLGIrhnudc7VqtpKN6+bIf1+wYHaeuDlaqD0lk0rHPA/k+fMqy5TriknJKzhh75/EgiaCcVfoy6XCsA6CpbgGPuUb/RpZrD23xxWFjE=; X-YMail-OSG: neAVsggVM1nrDvj_XqiufpV7ZlGLqBcFqHY5yS4r0vh_1bftNBTEfjKqNggayAbJzw-- Received: from [131.191.82.223] by web58109.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:09:45 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:09:45 -0700 (PDT) From: L Goodwin To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <18140.54529.1923.789795@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <403447.52821.qm@web58109.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handling failed mount (media not connected) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:09:46 -0000 --- Robert Huff wrote: > L Goodwin writes: > > > My backup script (sh) works fine except when the > > backup drive (USB Flash drive) is not plugged in. > I'm > > using mount_msdosfs to mount the backup drive. > > > > What is the best way to handle mount_msdosfs > error? > > If the drive is not mounted, I want to detect the > > failure and execute error-handling code. > > First approximation, using sh: > > ls /dev | grep da4s1 > if [ $? -eq 0 ]; > then > # drive is available > > else > # drive is not available > > if > > (Replace "da4s1" with whatever the flash drive gets > created > as.) Oh, yeah. Thanks, Robert! Now, sendmail has stopped working again (was working last night). Now, sendmail thinks on it for awhile, then returns 0, but mailq returns "/var/spool/mqueue is empty Total requests: 0" I was testing outgoing email by disconnecting the network cable. Now, nothing (also tried with it connected). > > > Robert Huff > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 21:30:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E27016A41A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (muon.bluestop.org [80.68.94.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494B513C457 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.draftnet (dyn-62-56-121-87.dslaccess.co.uk [62.56.121.87]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAF03000D for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:05:35 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <46DDC93A.50806@cran.org.uk> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:08:10 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Version of top included in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:30:33 -0000 I've noticed that the version of top included in FreeBSD is 3.5beta12 and a new version 3.6 was released last year (see http://sourceforge.net/projects/unixtop). I realise fixes and improvements have been made locally in the 3 years since 3.5 was released, but are there any plans to merge in a newer version, or will improvements continue to be made locally? -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 21:58:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE58E16A59F for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xrayv19@yahoo.com) Received: from web58110.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web58110.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A9C613C457 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xrayv19@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 5420 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2007 21:32:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=JhDtSvovWXI1PPK5vGAlriXPgJbfqE+c1FXBtB/V9U7RG2d0WQ81ai4ws2BqlNsauDdDy6g/8YhhwoR/4FuVoFP6OUKnf16p1+d8A5NAt97DzUcfVI9qcTyEgnuDqSsiKlhPhHH6rSJ9UDW8zee1j4V4lNSHDwq2mGdp2kqNUhM=; X-YMail-OSG: FYMlbY4VM1kUfTIlhrP2CZj.yU23wBnVwbuKEinHGDJlNtGicKYBR7JFdUY_Qa59wNDZ8fzxqYvgn5sF1bGREgTkBA7uLKzWJWnTi.zcPsT5o34qzTA.4mUh.2umtDdI Received: from [131.191.82.223] by web58110.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:32:13 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:32:13 -0700 (PDT) From: L Goodwin To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" , Kevin Kobb , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <798482.5408.qm@web58110.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Sysinstall: No Floppy Devices Found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:58:56 -0000 --- "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Kevin Kobb wrote: > > > I have found that when I do an install with an > install.cfg file on a floppy, > > I must insert the floppy right after the system > begins to boot from CD. If I > > don't when I tell sysinstall to read the floppy I > get an error. On a related note, sysinstall often errors out while trying to read from the CD-ROM (with FreeBSD disk in it). When read errors occur, sysinstal behaves erratically. You never know what will be displayed or how it will handle the situation (sometimes it looks like it aborted, but when you press Enter, it goes ahead with the install). BTW, this is in FreeBSD 6.2. > > > > As a work around, if I go into the options and > select rescan for hardware > > devices (not sure if that is the exact wording) > after inserting the floppy > > disk, it will work OK as well. Might be worth a > try. > > No luck. I've rescanned time after time, and get > nothing. No sloppy > devices show up in dmesg, cannot use mount_msdosfs > to access the floppy, > etc. > > This is truly, truly frustrating, as I am trying to > follow THESE > instructions: > > http://3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=14850 > > I've even tried installing to an external (non-raid) > drive in an attempt > to use that drive as a "really big floppy". The > boot loader doesn't know > how to see the BSD partition on it, and apparently > can only see "raw" bios > drives. > > Another possible approach was to try and boot from > the single drive and > then use sysinstall to install onto the RAID array, > but I've had issues > with that before. > > As an aside, the module HAS to be loaded before the > boot process, so I > can't use kldload to load the module from a fixit > floppy or something like > that. > > My workaround at the moment is that I am downloading > a snapshot ISO of > -STABLE > > It might be nice if the "loading modules from > floppy" procedure (while > rarely required) was better documented. > > -Dan > > -- > > "It's three o'clock in the morning. It's too late > for 'oops'. After > Locate Updates, don't even go there." > > -Paul Baecker > January 3, 2k > Indeed, sometime after 3AM > > --------Dan Mahoney-------- > Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek > Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC > ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM > Site: http://www.gushi.org > --------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 22:03:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC94A16A419 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745B613C45B for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:03:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so2173199fka for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:03:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=WQMK10840jl1deeICemo32So6qzjwHby9yfsYCiWsY5PelGx24br1bJ/jrOvDo2bPo3hmh5zfTqL1HcGGh/7J+OGUUrcqqliM3UHJ+qeCTNMr3B9BxL6+u/MuDHcZAdZGbnT/OKFFrF8CuU+08jCPZMV4BBvpVrv0nT8aocLnZY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=hwv1nE+E5LfGgxcZaV+jPTG0msL1N88tHSfX8qyIK5pr13Au2yNZLg7egCYZhAUp2bQJjP68RQZwt7awlOQGD8UqKHJArsuM2y2BExmT1xJSCfa8BJlrZ/jaKwQqrOe5uf8SoUnEOgW24sziocVRsflSVjf2wSidVVbw3qohefw= Received: by 10.82.189.6 with SMTP id m6mr5499305buf.1188943400275; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.191.14 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:03:20 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:03:22 -0000 I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I've tried akpop3d and qmail, but have had less than brilliant success getting them functional. Could you all suggest to me what you use and a good web site for configuring it as it would be done in FreeBSD? Please cc me, as I have the list subscribed in digest mode. Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 22:03:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8227116A420 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F7C13C46A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (unknown [192.168.1.1]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AD16D42E for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:03:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Duane Hill X-X-Sender: d.hill@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070904214705.S2251@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: fatal double fault (spinlock) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:03:26 -0000 We have a Dell PowerEdge 6850 with four 3ghz Intel dual core Xeon processors and 12 gig ram. It is running FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE-p15 amd64. SMP has been compiled into the kernel. However, machdep.hyperthreading_allowed has been set to zero(0) in /etc/sysctrl.conf. Once about every 1.5 to 2 weeks, the server throws the error: fatal double fault cpuid=15 spinlock sched lock held by 0xffffff032f3c1500 > 5 seconds This server is located in a colo many miles away. I had to have a person at the colo facility read off the message that was on the screen. I hope it is exact (or at least close). This server is one of our main spam filter servers. It use to have an MTA installed on it that required FreeBSD 5.5. That software does not run on the server anymore. I've been meaning to upgrade the server to 6.2 release, but have been procrastinating. Would upgrading the server to 6.2 release correct this issue? ------ _|_ (_| | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 22:10:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4710B16A41A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:10:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A3313C45A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=56778) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISgbX-0006KQ-H0; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:10:40 +0800 Message-ID: <46DDD8DF.2070306@adempiere.org> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:44:55 +0330 From: "Bahman M." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doug@safeport.com References: <20070904104305.L15038@pemaquid.safeport.com> <46DD8F9B.1090902@adempiere.org> <20070904165003.W15038@pemaquid.safeport.com> In-Reply-To: <20070904165003.W15038@pemaquid.safeport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_add question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:10:44 -0000 doug@safeport.com wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Bahman M. wrote: > >> doug@safeport.com wrote: >>> Over the weekend in trying to build xorg and kde from packages, none >>> of the various options for the package tree seemed to work. Plus the >>> meta port for kde was not available. >>> >>> If one goes to /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/kde (1) >>> /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/kde (2) >>> >>> there does not seems to be a kde meta port in (1). In (2) there is: >>> >>> kde-3.5.4.tbz -> ../All/kde-3.5.4.tbz >>> >>> In general all packages seem to be a symlink to ../All/.. I had >>> assumed this was the same directory and there was really one instance >>> of the ports tree per major release of FreeBSD. so I never >>> (knowingly) distinguished between --stable and --release. Is >>> there a difference. >>> >>> Is there a working kde package in -6-stable? >> I'm using 6.2-release and there is the x11/kde3 meta port. >> >> Bahman >> >> PS: I've upgraded ports on Aug 14th; but logically the kde3 metaport >> should have had been there before the upgrade. > > Thanks. Using ftp.safeport.com via a browser does indeed show > > .../packages-6.2-release/Latest/kde.tbz --> ../All/kde-3.5.4.tbz > .../packages-6-stable/Latest/ does not have a kde.tbz > .../packages-6-stable/All/ has kde-3.5.7.tbz > > Under these conditions, should I use PACKAGESITE = > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-/Latest/ ?? > After setting PACKAGESITE running 'pkg_add -rvn kde' gives you the idea as it "does not actually install a package, just reports the steps that would be taken if it was" (quote from 'man 1 pkg_add'). HTH, Bahman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 4 23:50:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8846F16A41A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF2813C45D for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so459253anc for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:50:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RuDF95RVr/112wW+/W0eTHK+GLX6U+IE7qqTG+2QgKig3dIvhJAKIEnQqkfSW66EApT1j8Ox2yW8kiMCfr2AFW/uFIy7qkgmUGIHbyTxT7bKj7ts2ugN0/CGF3e1qT3xMM81UPNhfl0VLL9H9+rPOggrUbGzLAZg7+YV29iYQAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=iFWpkCDqIR9SsIwPWyozDDa9uV3OA6Q6zdSqrQH6Vz2CXkjy9BVOocyvLLBxK1BHq+lsxCaMXIELJSx/RWms0nY6w8RULu7IzalU/vdx0uTXB7CNWW+qlH5+I35We2HBY2Qu1ZM/TNdqBkJ7v8Of9ur7AMHbHLaOWN45Ac3VqBE= Received: by 10.100.33.14 with SMTP id g14mr5281204ang.1188949821592; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.91.2 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:50:21 -0300 From: luizbcampos@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: bootable CDs on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:50:22 -0000 Dear Sirs Burning CDs is becoming a coastier task to me on FBSD-6.1-R amd64. I've lost five of them...and the question is how to make bootable CDs by using cdrecord? I've already read "man cdrecord" but the question is not clearer. Regards Luiz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 00:41:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1748116A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from smtpclu-6.eunet.yu (smtpclu-6.eunet.yu [194.247.192.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E35813C457 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-223-251.eunet.yu [213.198.223.251]) by smtpclu-6.eunet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l850et00016819; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:40:57 GMT Message-Id: <200709050040.l850et00016819@smtpclu-6.eunet.yu> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 02:41:16 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: Dantavious In-Reply-To: <200709031022.24028.derrick@uniquestrength.net> References: <200709031022.24028.derrick@uniquestrength.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_40,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: -0.2 Cc: pneumann@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Port: net/asterisk-addons X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:41:32 -0000 On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:22:22 -0400 Dantavious wrote: > Hi, > I am having problems compiling this port. Here is the output.=20 > Can you assist me with this issue.=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> Building for asterisk-addons-1.4.2 > gmake[1]: Entering directory=20 > `/usr/ports/net/asterisk-addons/work/asterisk-addons-1.4.2' > gmake[2]: Entering directory=20 > `/usr/ports/net/asterisk-addons/work/asterisk-addons-1.4.2/asterisk-ooh32= 3c' > gmake all-am > gmake[3]: Entering directory=20 > `/usr/ports/net/asterisk-addons/work/asterisk-addons-1.4.2/asterisk-ooh32= 3c' > source=3D'src/chan_h323.c' object=3D'chan_h323.lo' libtool=3Dyes \ > depfile=3D'.deps/chan_h323.Plo' > tmpdepfile=3D'.deps/chan_h323.TPlo' \ > depmode=3Dgcc3 /usr/local/bin/bash ./config/depcomp > \ /usr/local/bin/bash ./libtool --mode=3Dcompile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. > -I. -I. -I./ooh323c/src -I./ooh323c/src/h323 -I/usr/local/include > -DGNU -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_REENTRANT -D_COMPACT -c -o chan_h323.lo `test > -f 'src/chan_h323.c' || echo './'`src/chan_h323.c rm > -f .libs/chan_h323.lo cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -I./ooh323c/src > -I./ooh323c/src/h323 -I/usr/local/include -DGNU -D_GNU_SOURCE > -D_REENTRANT -D_COMPACT -c src/chan_h323.c -MT chan_h323.lo -MD -MP > -MF .deps/chan_h323.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/chan_h323.lo > src/chan_h323.c:71: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer > type src/chan_h323.c:91: warning: initialization from incompatible > pointer type src/chan_h323.c: In function `ooh323_new': > src/chan_h323.c:261: error: incompatible types in assignment > src/chan_h323.c:264: error: incompatible type for argument 1 of > `ast_best_codec' src/chan_h323.c: In function `ooh323_write': > src/chan_h323.c:974: error: invalid operands to binary & > src/chan_h323.c: In function `print_codec_to_cli': > src/chan_h323.c:2219: error: structure has no member named `framing' [...] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Derrick, Looks like you have veeeery outdated version of net/asterisk (at least a year old; if not, something's wrong with its *.h files), so if your ports tree is up-to-date please do # portupgrade -fr asterisk That should fix the problem. Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 00:43:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E3816A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B5813C461; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <46DDFB98.1010404@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:43:04 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Duane Hill References: <20070904214705.S2251@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> In-Reply-To: <20070904214705.S2251@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fatal double fault (spinlock) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:43:07 -0000 Duane Hill wrote: > > We have a Dell PowerEdge 6850 with four 3ghz Intel dual core Xeon > processors and 12 gig ram. It is running FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE-p15 amd64. > SMP has been compiled into the kernel. However, > machdep.hyperthreading_allowed has been set to zero(0) in > /etc/sysctrl.conf. > > Once about every 1.5 to 2 weeks, the server throws the error: > > fatal double fault > cpuid=15 > spinlock sched lock held by 0xffffff032f3c1500 > 5 seconds > > This server is located in a colo many miles away. I had to have a person > at the colo facility read off the message that was on the screen. I hope > it is exact (or at least close). > > This server is one of our main spam filter servers. It use to have an > MTA installed on it that required FreeBSD 5.5. That software does not > run on the server anymore. > > I've been meaning to upgrade the server to 6.2 release, but have been > procrastinating. Would upgrading the server to 6.2 release correct this > issue? Chances are good: by running 5.5 you are missing out on several years of bug fixes. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 00:44:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FADF16A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7D613C468 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so5826289pyb for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:44:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=NQbzipeQpxZByNJ93y8R8COsaAigpcESXJtRE9xb1dN/Aoio64WIpgxBE5n2VMOsM7MV7QCtZNgtEAK/v6JvtP9mdea+EV9tYFY2XoFNnpBQYHQ6iy0Yqjh99u/h9FxXM+OOCtAEjp7cHDdMhEJHuHu1GMFR/2hfEJ6S8aa0+0M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=UWYRy5K4VAmbqCYpVdfUXU486ELpTTept9SObGb3Q+GXjuG4inEba1XJ9r9tj4m1YkyniB8F2WBHHDtc0arQfnpRz62OkLOxc0F6EJuj7pUlvrxQeljxteKmipbmfCkiyVokUzNqyk/D90woA+diCR3us1tTudSa6SY3/T0AYEI= Received: by 10.65.192.16 with SMTP id u16mr11606581qbp.1188953058979; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ( [209.240.66.157]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u2sm7627818pyb.2007.09.04.17.44.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:44:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <96EFA8E2-B8C0-45A1-8304-5B7723E7E75B@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Crist Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:44:15 -0500 To: Jim Stapleton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:44:24 -0000 On Sep 4, 2007, at 5:03 PMSep 4, 2007, Jim Stapleton wrote: > I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or > better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I've tried akpop3d and qmail, but > have had less than brilliant success getting them functional. Could > you all suggest to me what you use and a good web site for configuring > it as it would be done in FreeBSD? > > Please cc me, as I have the list subscribed in digest mode. > > Thanks, > -Jim Stapleton > It may be more than you're looking for, but check out www.purplehat.org and look for their postfix/dovecot how-to. It's very detailed and works great! ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 00:47:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE5716A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmeek@russellmeek.net) Received: from mail.meektech.com (tron.meektech.com [72.232.50.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BB813C428 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:47:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmeek@russellmeek.net) Received: (qmail 40116 invoked by uid 89); 5 Sep 2007 00:20:04 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 39410, pid: 39728, t: 0.0083s scanners: attach: 1.2.0 clamav: 0.91.2/m: Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (rmeek@russellmeek.net@72.232.50.252) by mail.meektech.com with ESMTPA; 5 Sep 2007 00:20:04 -0000 Received: from rrcs-67-79-176-182.se.biz.rr.com (rrcs-67-79-176-182.se.biz.rr.com [67.79.176.182]) by secure.meektech.com (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:20:04 -0400 Message-ID: <20070904202004.b1z0yynktcgwo88s@secure.meektech.com> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:20:04 -0400 From: "Russell E. Meek" To: Jim Stapleton References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:47:06 -0000 Quoting Jim Stapleton : > I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or > better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I've tried akpop3d and qmail, but > have had less than brilliant success getting them functional. Could > you all suggest to me what you use and a good web site for configuring > it as it would be done in FreeBSD? > > Please cc me, as I have the list subscribed in digest mode. > > Thanks, > -Jim Stapleton > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/ Perfection - and qmail based also. Have fun. - Russell ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent securely via meektech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 01:15:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B2016A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xrayv19@yahoo.com) Received: from web58103.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web58103.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.126]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE3B913C465 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xrayv19@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 74117 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2007 01:15:19 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ZntooQUSJ8Ulway7jbK2u1VqdZ/LE2nOgK+735O0wY1H/Ij5syAn3Psc5w41uYKuphumhbMJizZ7vsRN2Z37eq8iTRQHzjYdwRzCxGxADncKET4y3yX3qmkAKfT7tPIXStyhikTgKKW4MjWuCmCOtHYqy06I4z1lZcy9G+7SZAw=; X-YMail-OSG: gnEMAT8VM1ncACIEQTEiTVWZWbJS0uARdXK1qrW9D2CZoPZXiL5Lw.FqDvDomxKIHbAAm2YmKtbIvhxGrF0POJzTMTxHkNWswDaJ Received: from [131.191.82.223] by web58103.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:15:18 PDT Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:15:18 -0700 (PDT) From: L Goodwin To: Garrett Cooper , Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <46DCF1EA.500@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <499562.74036.qm@web58103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handling failed mount (media not connected) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:15:40 -0000 --- Garrett Cooper wrote: > Robert Huff wrote: > > L Goodwin writes: > > > > > >> My backup script (sh) works fine except when the > >> backup drive (USB Flash drive) is not plugged > in. I'm > >> using mount_msdosfs to mount the backup drive. > >> > >> What is the best way to handle mount_msdosfs > error? > >> If the drive is not mounted, I want to detect > the > >> failure and execute error-handling code. > >> > > > > First approximation, using sh: > > > > ls /dev | grep da4s1 > > if [ $? -eq 0 ]; > > then > > # drive is available > > > > else > > # drive is not available > > > > if > > > > (Replace "da4s1" with whatever the flash drive > gets created > > as.) > > > > > > Robert Huff > > > > Possibly better (using sh again..): > > #!/bin/sh > > error_handling_func() { > err_code=$1; shift; > # do something here... > exit $err_code; > } > > # This assumes that you have: > # 1. cam/pass support built into the kernel. > # 2. your USB device is interpreted as a SCSI > device (which should be > the case). > # 3. your USB device is unique / identifiable by > a string. > camcontrol | grep 'Device string' || > error_handling_func $? > > # do something here since it passed.. > > Also, FWIW conditionals are actually done like: > > if {statement} ; then > > elif {statement}; then > > else > > fi > > in Bourne shells. > > Also, mount_msdosfs should return a non-zero > exit code. Thanks, Garrett. I was wondering about the "[]" vs. "{}" (every code example I've seen uses the square brackets). It's been 10 years since I did any serious shell scripting. I finally installed the MAN and INFO pages on the server I'm working on yesterday -- much faster than accessing them online! I'd like to see all MAN pages show return values and where any output goes, and more examples that cover each combination of the former in a real-world scenario. If *NIX/BSD is going to take on Windows, they need to be better in every significant way (which includes better documentation for those who are not already experts). ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 01:48:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC4616A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAE113C458 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:48:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F0E8105 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripple.shadypond.com (ripple.shadypond.com [192.168.1.13]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FCFB83C for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:47:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:47:47 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709050147.47555.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: loopback won't enable automatically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:48:30 -0000 I have to manually set the loopback interface after each reboot on one machine (it is a laptop): ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 Then everything is fine. I added ifconfig_lo0="127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" to /etc/rc.conf but for unknown reasons it now looks like this and I still need to set lo0 manually after reboots: ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" Any ideas? I am running FreeBSD 7 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 02:31:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1E116A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 02:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292D313C4A3 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 02:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1219832rvb for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:31:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=iFVzYf3fKtgaTbp054bO1fWp+OPwkNmnrpa3zoCD+qFRxxTOGsn0VmYrKDTAtrH/shv+lQHWPG9a6mZIMz5lRKrBJaxqyjiSvdn2iE6ZDujeusjH31R18WHa+eyr4C1LU6qJHxCCjfS/jGJiUo5dvZEWg9vRCeKVqjnerP3dVBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Nan2RwyAV5FVTJsG108CO/0yoqvfnUBFC+EIS1WeJ5NSc2anracNm9ON23YX3xI48AdWjTpIqhXXEy6IXJEO4n/lxHcdkS17B5U9HfZcqzOWYKOtlCRfRyd9XYGDEVzBGRXMAT9s/QTD9gC4579ZB/oERxVJDb+2/dtnl+B7adA= Received: by 10.141.19.16 with SMTP id w16mr466624rvi.1188959474580; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.170.12 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64c038660709041931i2f83ee9bv9a3e4276c750ff23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:31:14 -0600 From: Modulok To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Booting to root on gmirror with disk failure, is it even possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:31:15 -0000 Before I invest significantly more time into my current gmirror issues, I have but two simple questions for anyone out there: 1. Has anyone used gmirror for the root partition and been able to successfully boot with one failed (or un-plugged) disk? It's the latter part of the question that is the real issue for me. I'm just looking for a confirmed "it's possible". 2. If yes, what version of FreeBSD, what brand/model of hard disks, and what mainboard was used? Thanks. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 03:36:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB41316A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 03:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsdquestions@sociology.osu.edu) Received: from mail.sociology.ohio-state.edu (mail.sociology.ohio-state.edu [128.146.219.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4783813C458 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 03:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsdquestions@sociology.osu.edu) Received: (qmail 91784 invoked by uid 1224); 5 Sep 2007 03:09:57 -0000 Received: from 128.146.218.128 (jmc@128.146.218.128) by mail.sociology.ohio-state.edu (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (uvscan: v5.1.00/v5112. clamdscan: 0.91.1/4156. Clear:RC:0(128.146.218.128):. Processed in 0.784454 secs); 05 Sep 2007 03:09:57 -0000 Received: from bc128.sociology.ohio-state.edu (HELO ?128.146.218.128?) (jmc@128.146.218.128) by smtp.sociology.ohio-state.edu with SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 03:09:56 -0000 Message-ID: <46DE1E05.8030706@sociology.osu.edu> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:09:57 -0400 From: John Crawford User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gmirror and booting one and/or the other of the twins, then rebuilding raid 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:36:39 -0000 Hello, I've found it helpful to take a raid 1 system, break the raid, and then be able to boot to either of the two system disks. Once I'm done with this split personality development and testing, I choose which of the two to keep, and then rebuild my raid 1 using that "kept" disk as the master. I can do this with bios controlled raid controllers easy enough. I'd like to do it with a gmirror'ed system. I'm using a procedure much like that described here to build my gmirror raid on freebsd 6.2. http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/24/freebsd-howto-gmirror-system/ How could I play boot swap-a-roo on these twin disks? That is without pulling drive cables for data or power? I'd like to be able to boot either of the two drives. FreeBSD see's my devices even if I disable the drive "OFF" in bios, so that alone doesn't work. I suppose I could use kernel.conf and "di ad0" or "di ad2" to suppress drive hardware detection, but I'm hoping to do something simple (with a few keystrokes) during one of the boot stages to suppress one or another of the drive detections. I don't recall how to disable a given device during the an interactive boot procedure. And then of course, I'd like to be able to re-raid based on my preferred drive, repopulating the other. I'm not certain how best to manage this. Thanks for some ideas. John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 04:00:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FCD16A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D7113C442 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l8540hML049551; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:00:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Pollywog" , Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:01:00 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200708311550.27474.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: doubts about the freebsd devil X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:00:45 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Pollywog > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:50 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: doubts about the freebsd devil > > > On Friday 31 August 2007 15:32:26 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > > There will also probably be loads of people replying to tell you > > that it is not a devil but a character representing a daemon that > > is a helpful sprite and that it is not a logo, but a mascot. > > I think that is much less different than the difference between a > toad and a > frog. Them's fighting words - don't you realize an entire subgroup of the FreeBSD developers spent untold amounts of time and effort setting up a rigged contest to attempt to convince the userbase that there was such a difference, in order to replace the logo with a round red sex toy? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 04:11:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3064816A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate4.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate4.pacific.net.sg [203.81.36.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63C8013C428 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 11691 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2007 04:11:07 -0000 Received: from bb121-7-106-120.singnet.com.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@121.7.106.120) by smtpgate4.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 5 Sep 2007 04:11:06 -0000 Message-ID: <46DE2C4A.9010008@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:10:50 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Pollywog , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doubts about the freebsd devil X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:11:13 -0000 Hi, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Them's fighting words - don't you realize an entire subgroup of the > FreeBSD developers spent untold amounts of time and effort setting up > a rigged contest to attempt to convince the userbase that there was > such a difference, in order to replace the logo with a round red sex > toy? > oh no. I always thought this glow in the eyes of women when mentioning FreeBSD came from the operating system's performance. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 04:25:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA3416A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AD513C45A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l854PGkf049721; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:25:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jim Stapleton" , Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:25:33 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709011336h4af41582raee142537f7495b5@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: questions on setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:25:18 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jim Stapleton > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 1:36 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: questions on setting up a mail server > > > I figured I'd try cyrus, I remember hearing that one is a good mail > server. But I'm new to the mail server thing, and I'm not even sure > where to look for some of this stuff if anyone can help. Also, I plan > on just doing POP3, and only allowing secure connections - if anyone > can reccomend a good, simple server for that, that they think is > better than Cyrus, I won't object. > > My main question is on authentication. I was looking at authentication > types in kmail to get an idea of what I can use, and I found: > Clear text > LOGIN > PLAIN > CRAM-MD5 > Digest-MD5 > NTLM > GSSAPI > APOP > > > I know clear text is not what I want - if I remember, that's > unencrypted. Does TLS/SSL make this a non-issue? What about the other > methdods? Much of this depends on the mail clients that your going to be hitting the server with. The first group does encryption of the password only. The TLS/SSL stuff does encryption of everything - password, mail contents, etc. The TLS stuff requires you put a SSL cert into the client. Most people, not wanting to pay Verisign for this, make their own self-signed certs. There is a large amount of arcane magic to do this, and to get it accepted into Windows, so that an Outlook client will do SSL. You cannot really find recipies out there to do it - but you can pick up bits and pieces here and there and learn a lot about SSL and assemble a recipie. Basically, you want to create a self-signed root certificate, then sign your POP3 mailserver certificate with that, and put the self-signed cert into the root store in Windows. Not only can you sign your pop3 certs with this, you can sign your www, imap, pop3, smtp, etc. etc. etc. certificates with your root CA and then you won't get bitching from your windows clients. The first group is a different story. If you want to get Outlook to work with that, you can only use NTLM. The developers of all of the various packages dislike NTLM so they force you to use arcane makefile options and such to build your system so that it will support NTLM. Eudora, by contrast, supports only APOP and Netscape mail only supports CRAM-MD5 and as I recall bugs in the clients basically make it impossible for a server that supports all these encryption types to work with all clients. The honest to god truth of the matter is that encrypting your POP3 and SMTP auth passwords is difficult to do on a large scale no matter what road you pick to do it, so there is really not a lot of point to doing it unless your in a rather limited environment. I would definitely not bother in a corporate environment where you have maybe a handful of road warriors that would be on sniffable networks - just make sure their pop3 login and password isn't the same as their network login ID and password and the worst a cracker can do is steal their mail. whop de do. Chances are far more likely their laptops will be busted into by a robot loaded on the laptop that sniffs keystrokes. By contrast in a creaky old college network with a bunch of dumb network hubs and a couple dormotories full of jerkoffs looking to prove they are hackers, you probably would want to encrypt it via SSL. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 04:35:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8624416A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345D313C46C for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l854ZHSm049777; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:35:35 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200709020222.21000.mchauber@gmx.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:35:19 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael Hauber > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:22 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... > > > Hey, all... > > > Because I've put so much time into getting this FreeBSD install > where it is > now (and because I favor the BSDs), I'm still a bit hesitant... > Has anyone > here had much experience with ubunu as a desktop? Negatives/positives? Different strokes for different folks. There's nothing to be ashamed of for choosing a different OS because it fits your needs better than FreeBSD. However there is a lot to be ashamed of if your announcing this to the FreeBSD mailing list as a veiled attempt to "spur" the FreeBSD developers to make FreeBSD more ubuntu-like, or to trigger a flame war between ubuntu and FreeBSD supporters. Your post to me kind of seems rather passive-agressive, your praising and condemming FreeBSD at the same time, in the same sentences. I can't figure out if your trying to flame-bait or not, so I'll assume the best, that your not. Basically, dude, what you need to do is shit and get off the pot. Every OS under the sun including Winblows is going to suck up tinker-time. If you want a computer (or a happy wife I guess) then you need to accept that and quit whining that you don't have enough time. Here's a thought - unplug your TV set for a month and I'll bet you get a lot more tinker time. Anyway, you need to load ubuntu and load windows and load debian, and load red hat and so on and so on and make your own decision as to which meets your needs. None of us here can read minds and you haven't stated what your needs are - other than you want more time, which as I explained is a mirage - there isn't going to be more time freed up by replacing FreeBSD with something else, your just going to spend the same time with a different set of problems - so if you honest-to-god need more time, then give up something in your life that is consuming time that you gain less from than your computer. It could be anything from TV to your daily commute, to smoking, to drinking beer, you name it, whatever. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 04:37:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0532316A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:37:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54A713C478 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E104A81A6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by slider.shadypond.com (postoffice) with ESMTP id 390B5B67AC for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:37:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:37:01 +0000 References: <46DE2C4A.9010008@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <46DE2C4A.9010008@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709050437.01579.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: doubts about the freebsd devil X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:37:08 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 04:10:50 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Them's fighting words - don't you realize an entire subgroup of the > > FreeBSD developers spent untold amounts of time and effort setting up > > a rigged contest to attempt to convince the userbase that there was > > such a difference, in order to replace the logo with a round red sex > > toy? > > oh no. > > I always thought this glow in the eyes of women when mentioning FreeBSD > came from the operating system's performance. > I think I must reconsider my position and admit there is a substantial difference between a logo and a mascot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 04:49:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D442E16A421 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:49:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B96C13C4A6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id OAA16543; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:48:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:48:53 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Pollywog In-Reply-To: <20070905040055.11D2D16A53D@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loopback won't enable automatically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:49:36 -0000 On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:47:47 +0000 Pollywog wrote: > I have to manually set the loopback interface after each reboot on one machine > (it is a laptop): > > ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 > > Then everything is fine. > > I added ifconfig_lo0="127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" to /etc/rc.conf > but for unknown reasons it now looks like this and I still need to set lo0 > manually after reboots: > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" > > Any ideas? I am running FreeBSD 7 I noticed before when you posted your ifconfig with missing localhost IPv4 address. You shouldn't have had to add it to rc.conf in the first place, as you should find this line existing in /etc/defaults/rc.conf: ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. Check that nothing has messed with /etc/defaults/rc.conf, and also that you have no later ifconfig_lo0 entry in rc.conf. The last one found there is the one that applies, later entries overriding earlier ones. Apart from that, I can't imagine what might be deleting your default localhost configuration, unless you're using rc.local? Otherwise I'd be searching any active scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ for any oddnesses that may hae been installed by some port or other? Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 05:09:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AF316A421 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668FC13C45D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l8559hQR006859; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:09:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l8559h8m006856; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:09:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:09:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Modulok In-Reply-To: <64c038660709041931i2f83ee9bv9a3e4276c750ff23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070905070857.A6855@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <64c038660709041931i2f83ee9bv9a3e4276c750ff23@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting to root on gmirror with disk failure, is it even possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:09:50 -0000 > > 1. Has anyone used gmirror for the root partition and been able to > successfully boot with one failed (or un-plugged) disk? It's the > latter part of the question that is the real issue for me. I'm just > looking for a confirmed "it's possible". > yes it is. but with unplugged, with failed it may not work, depend how disk is failed > 2. If yes, what version of FreeBSD, what brand/model of hard disks, > and what mainboard was used? any. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 05:40:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F68416A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B7313C48E for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [76.23.4.92] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1ISnIv-0000hT-JD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:19:53 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <143A5CF5-6E2F-4BBD-851D-B9BCA4D0BB71@shire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: User Questions From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:19:52 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 76.23.4.92 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: no SMP without ACPI? (amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:40:52 -0000 Hi I have a 6.2R system (amd64) with the latest patch level. The motherboard is a Tyan S5197 i3110 based board with a Core 2 Quad 2.4 ghz processor. There is 4GB of memory and an Areca ARC-1231ML raid card. The problem is that I have to boot without ACPI or the system will randomly reboot itself when doing something. It will sit idle for ages but if I do a system build (make buildworld for example), it usually will not make it through without rebooting. If I boot without ACPI support (#2 in the boot loader), then the system is fine, I can do a billion builds without incident, except that I only get 1 CPU. (Yes, the kernel has SMP option built in). I would really like to run with all 4 cores but cannot run with ACPI at the moment due to instability. Any suggestions? Any way to get "old-style" SMP detection working (ie, without ACPI)? Thanks Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 05:51:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082E616A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C691313C465 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l855pYdR050231; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:51:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Erich Dollansky" Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:51:51 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <46DE2C4A.9010008@pacific.net.sg> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: Pollywog , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: doubts about the freebsd devil X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:51:46 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Erich Dollansky > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 9:11 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Pollywog; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: doubts about the freebsd devil > > > Hi, > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > Them's fighting words - don't you realize an entire subgroup of the > > FreeBSD developers spent untold amounts of time and effort setting up > > a rigged contest to attempt to convince the userbase that there was > > such a difference, in order to replace the logo with a round red sex > > toy? > > > oh no. > > I always thought this glow in the eyes of women when mentioning FreeBSD > came from the operating system's performance. > That was because Beastie is horney... Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 06:01:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2AA16A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E680B13C45A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l8561aLa050299; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:01:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" , "User Questions" Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:01:54 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <143A5CF5-6E2F-4BBD-851D-B9BCA4D0BB71@shire.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: no SMP without ACPI? (amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:01:38 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chad Leigh -- > Shire.Net LLC > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 10:20 PM > To: User Questions > Subject: no SMP without ACPI? (amd64) > > > Hi > > I have a 6.2R system (amd64) with the latest patch level. > > The motherboard is a Tyan S5197 i3110 based board with a Core 2 Quad > 2.4 ghz processor. There is 4GB of memory and an Areca ARC-1231ML > raid card. > > The problem is that I have to boot without ACPI or the system will > randomly reboot itself when doing something. It will sit idle for > ages but if I do a system build (make buildworld for example), it > usually will not make it through without rebooting. If I boot > without ACPI support (#2 in the boot loader), then the system is > fine, I can do a billion builds without incident, except that I only > get 1 CPU. (Yes, the kernel has SMP option built in). > > I would really like to run with all 4 cores but cannot run with ACPI > at the moment due to instability. > > Any suggestions? Any way to get "old-style" SMP detection working > (ie, without ACPI)? > Join the club - I think all of us with a lot of systems have a few around in that same boat. I know I do. All I can say is fill out as detailed a PR as you possibly can and hope for the best. And don't forget to add screaming at Tyan to the list - if these stupid motherboard manufacturers never hear from us they don't pay attention to us. You can also try changing BIOS versions, and dicking around with BIOS settings, sometimes that helps. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 06:02:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8709D16A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D59913C467 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:02:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (dpm.xs4all.nl [213.84.11.61]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l8562uKE028368; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:02:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-puzzleid: {968A97DC-A591-4E11-8517-0CE92D7C4AF6} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:02:24 +0200 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB19BCE8@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Samba type question x-cr-hashedpuzzle: hSY= ADxz CXwh C80S EWxx FWu7 HN5g HZe7 Il4N I7Kr KMhQ Kgd+ LeCB Mwnh M9bk OF78; 2; ZABhAHIAcgB5AGwAQABvAHMAYgBvAHIAbgBlAC0AaQBuAGQALgBjAG8AbQA7AGYAcgBlAGUAYgBzAGQALQBxAHUAZQBzAHQAaQBvAG4AcwBAAGYAcgBlAGUAYgBzAGQALgBvAHIAZwA=; Sosha1_v1; 7; {968A97DC-A591-4E11-8517-0CE92D7C4AF6}; agBvAGgAYQBuAEAAZABvAHUAYgBsAGUALQBsAC4AbgBsAA==; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:02:24 GMT; UgBFADoAIABTAGEAbQBiAGEAIAB0AHkAcABlACAAcQB1AGUAcwB0AGkAbwBuAA== Thread-Index: AcfvB5uzQTvKtV06QbWkB7l8m/fcmAAeaiig References: From: "Johan Hendriks" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Samba type question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:02:59 -0000 >Greetings, >I have an ageing NT4 file server that is the PDC (windows speak for >primary domain controller) for my windows network. I have roughly >40 networked pc's connected to this network and most of the clients >are running XP Pro. I have one client running windows 2000 pro, and >one client running Vista Ultimate (gag, puke). >I would like to know if I can replace that NT4 PDC with Freebsd and >Samba. I would like real world feedback from people who are actually >running it. >thanks, >Darryl _______________________________________________ We are running Samba on FreeBSD 6.2 as a PDC with LDAP as a backend. For user management we use ldap-account-manager and the ldapsmb-tools all from ports. It works fine for us. We have 30 clients all WinXP except one Win2k We also use roaming profiles and ACL. It all works like it should. The only thing I can not get to work is the USRMGR.EXE utility. It errors out with an error that a device on the system is not working, but the user is added to the ldap database?? A good howto to setup this is here: http://wiki.unixboard.de/index.php/FreeBSD_-_Samba We also use bind and isc-dhcp3 to get an up to date DNS on the LAN. Regards, Johan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 06:19:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8A816A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4FC13C458 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l855kWCo050212; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Bruce Cran" , Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:46:50 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <46DDC93A.50806@cran.org.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: Version of top included in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:19:16 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Bruce Cran > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:08 PM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Version of top included in FreeBSD > > > I've noticed that the version of top included in FreeBSD is 3.5beta12 > and a new version 3.6 was released last year (see > http://sourceforge.net/projects/unixtop). I realise fixes and > improvements have been made locally in the 3 years since 3.5 was > released, but are there any plans to merge in a newer version, or will > improvements continue to be made locally? > This is an excellent opportunity for you as (I assume) a freeBSD newbie to make a contribution to the system Download the new version of top. Read the license and make sure some bozo hasn't GNUified it. Compile it on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE. Test it out to see if everything works fine. Compare it's output to that of the existing top to make sure it matches. If it does, then send in a PR that states you have tested it out, where to get it, that it's still under a BSD license, and what if anything you did to get it to compile. You see, even if you cannot do anything fancy like port the changes from the old version of top into the 3.6 version, the fact that the new version of top hasn't introduced some bogosity that makes it a pain in the arse to deal with under FreeBSD is of immense value. After all your talking about an hour of developer time just to see if the new version works at all, and produces output that isn't far out in left field. If a core developer knows the new top version works and is license-compatible they are going to be much more willing to spend the time porting the FreeBSD-specific changes over to it than if it is a big unknown. And if your more advanced, you can compare the original beta version of top that was used against the BSD system one, see what changes were made, check to see if they were fed back to the top maintainers and if they were implemented in the top code, and if not, submit them to the top maintainers so the source gets updated. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 06:21:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AF916A41A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D545313C494 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l856LTsQ050388; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:21:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Russell E. Meek" , "Jim Stapleton" Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:21:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20070904202004.b1z0yynktcgwo88s@secure.meektech.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:21:31 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Russell E. Meek > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:20 PM > To: Jim Stapleton > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > Quoting Jim Stapleton : > > > I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or > > better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I've tried akpop3d and qmail, but > > have had less than brilliant success getting them functional. Could > > you all suggest to me what you use and a good web site for configuring > > it as it would be done in FreeBSD? > > > > Please cc me, as I have the list subscribed in digest mode. > > > > Thanks, > > -Jim Stapleton > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/ > > Perfection - and qmail based also. > No, this isn't perfection. Jim (and Russell) let me point out one thing about solutions like this. Something like this is designed for people who don't know how to build a mailserver, to download some files, pull the trigger, and Blammo - instant mailserver. In short, a big black box that works as a mailserver. The problem is, however, that the only guy that really and truly knows how everthing works in that black box is the guy that wrote the black box - the author of toaster, himself. You, being the clueless admin who pulled the trigger, are not going to be instantly converted into a knowledgeable mail server admin by pulling the trigger. You are just going to be a clueless admin who now has a big powerful black box that can go kill people, just as easily as explode in his face. Kind of like the country of Iraq buying a nuclear device - they don't know what they have, don't know how to build it, and are not qualified at all to use it. If something in that black box goes kablooie - which sooner or later it will, since all mail systems have problems - you are going to be screwed over. If you have a small home mailserver with a couple of friends on it, a system like Toaster can be a real help - IF you install it, then spend months picking it apart, to learn how to not be a clueless admin. However if you install it then spend the next 3 months watching reruns of Lost, then assume you now know all there is to know about a mailserver, you are then a stupid fool. Or, if your an admin with a big string of mailservers already under your belt who is looking for interesting code bits he can steal to incorporate into his own mailservers, then Toaster is also of value. But if your just a guy looking for a quick gun to shoot a problem so he can go on to the next thing, then your just going to screw yourself with something like Toaster. You would be much better advised to build the mailserver from scratch. Sure, your mailserver won't have all the pretty graphs and admin interfaces that something like Toaster has. But, you will know how it works and the day you get a phone call and 400 users now can't get mail, you will know how to fix it. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 06:40:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCD516A468 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:40:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from eunet.yu (smtpclu-1.eunet.yu [194.247.192.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AFD13C4A6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:40:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-223-251.eunet.yu [213.198.223.251]) by eunet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l856eQ7f026093; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:40:27 +0200 Message-Id: <200709050640.l856eQ7f026093@eunet.yu> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:40:48 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: References: <20070904202004.b1z0yynktcgwo88s@secure.meektech.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_50,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: 0.0 Cc: "Russell E. Meek" , Jim Stapleton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:40:33 -0000 On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:21:47 -0700 "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: [...]=20 > Kind of like the country of Iraq buying a nuclear device -=20 > they don't know what they have, don't know how to build it, > and are not qualified at all to use it. [...] Please save us from these words of wisdom. Your opinions about "them" and about "competence" and "collective knowledge" of world states are off-topic here. Such arrogancy and ignorance are very miserable. Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 07:19:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC5216A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:19:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4990813C45E for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA4881B3 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 03:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by slider.shadypond.com (postoffice) with ESMTP id 41CA7B67AC for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:19:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:19:13 +0000 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709050719.13158.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: loopback won't enable automatically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:19:20 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 04:48:53 Ian Smith wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:47:47 +0000 Pollywog wrote: > > I have to manually set the loopback interface after each reboot on one > > machine (it is a laptop): > > > > ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 > > > > Then everything is fine. > > > > I added ifconfig_lo0="127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" to /etc/rc.conf > > but for unknown reasons it now looks like this and I still need to set > > lo0 manually after reboots: > > > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" > > > > Any ideas? I am running FreeBSD 7 > > I noticed before when you posted your ifconfig with missing localhost > IPv4 address. You shouldn't have had to add it to rc.conf in the first > place, as you should find this line existing in /etc/defaults/rc.conf: > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. > > Check that nothing has messed with /etc/defaults/rc.conf, and also that > you have no later ifconfig_lo0 entry in rc.conf. The last one found > there is the one that applies, later entries overriding earlier ones. > > Apart from that, I can't imagine what might be deleting your default > localhost configuration, unless you're using rc.local? Otherwise I'd be > searching any active scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ for any oddnesses > that may hae been installed by some port or other? > > Cheers, Ian I am not using rc.local and I will check /etc/defaults/rc.conf I forgot to check there first. thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 07:23:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E3C16A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:23:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB78C13C483 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 19919 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2007 02:23:04 -0500 Received: from 124-170-53-86.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.53.86) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 02:23:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:23:00 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: "Jim Stapleton" Message-ID: <20070905172300.6a89165a@localhost> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:23:06 -0000 On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:03:20 -0400 "Jim Stapleton" wrote: > I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or > better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. Jim, - incoming email + delivery : postfix . Really well documented. Haven't found a feature not implemented. As secure as you configure it (unlike qmail which implements a lot of security by axing features, so u need to add dubious hacks...) - dovecot : POP + IMAP, works quite well with ssl too - webmail : i use roundcube, but there are plenty of options. All u need is something that talks IMAP to your imap server - amavis-new as glue for Spam assassin / other spam tagging system + clamav. B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome Sysadmins can't be sued for malpractice, but surgeons don't have to deal with patients who install new versions of their own innards. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 07:25:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE51916A468 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A774313C458 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E776B81B4 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 03:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by slider.shadypond.com (postoffice) with ESMTP id EB9D4B67AC for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:25:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:25:42 +0000 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709050725.42317.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: loopback won't enable automatically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:25:47 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 04:48:53 Ian Smith wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:47:47 +0000 Pollywog wrote: > > I have to manually set the loopback interface after each reboot on one > > machine (it is a laptop): > > > > ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 > > > > Then everything is fine. > > > > I added ifconfig_lo0="127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" to /etc/rc.conf > > but for unknown reasons it now looks like this and I still need to set > > lo0 manually after reboots: > > > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" > > > > Any ideas? I am running FreeBSD 7 > > I noticed before when you posted your ifconfig with missing localhost > IPv4 address. You shouldn't have had to add it to rc.conf in the first > place, as you should find this line existing in /etc/defaults/rc.conf: > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. > > Check that nothing has messed with /etc/defaults/rc.conf, and also that > you have no later ifconfig_lo0 entry in rc.conf. The last one found > there is the one that applies, later entries overriding earlier ones. > > Apart from that, I can't imagine what might be deleting your default > localhost configuration, unless you're using rc.local? Otherwise I'd be > searching any active scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ for any oddnesses > that may hae been installed by some port or other? > > Cheers, Ian I did find it in /etc/default/rc.conf: ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 07:53:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A333416A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pollywog@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACFA13C45E for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pollywog@shadypond.com) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0020581B5 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 03:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by slider.shadypond.com (postoffice) with ESMTP id EBF54B67AC for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:35:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog Organization: A Small Pond To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:35:26 +0000 References: <200709050725.42317.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> In-Reply-To: <200709050725.42317.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709050735.26298.pollywog@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: loopback won't enable automatically [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:53:56 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 07:25:42 Pollywog wrote: > On Wednesday 05 September 2007 04:48:53 Ian Smith wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:47:47 +0000 Pollywog wrote: > > > I have to manually set the loopback interface after each reboot on one > > > machine (it is a laptop): > > > > > > ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 > > > > > > Then everything is fine. > > > > > > I added ifconfig_lo0="127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" to /etc/rc.conf > > > but for unknown reasons it now looks like this and I still need to set > > > lo0 manually after reboots: > > > > > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" > > > > > > Any ideas? I am running FreeBSD 7 > > > > I noticed before when you posted your ifconfig with missing localhost > > IPv4 address. You shouldn't have had to add it to rc.conf in the first > > place, as you should find this line existing in /etc/defaults/rc.conf: > > > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. > > > > Check that nothing has messed with /etc/defaults/rc.conf, and also that > > you have no later ifconfig_lo0 entry in rc.conf. The last one found > > there is the one that applies, later entries overriding earlier ones. > > > > Apart from that, I can't imagine what might be deleting your default > > localhost configuration, unless you're using rc.local? Otherwise I'd be > > searching any active scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ for any oddnesses > > that may hae been installed by some port or other? > > > > Cheers, Ian > > I did find it in /etc/default/rc.conf: > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. I found the problem. lo0 was not listed in network_interfaces in rc.conf Adding it fixed the problem. thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 07:56:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7D716A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from surdemir@yahoo.com) Received: from n8.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n8.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C35913C457 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from surdemir@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.237.90] by n8.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2007 07:42:12 -0000 Received: from [66.196.101.132] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2007 07:42:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by rrr3.mail.re1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2007 07:42:12 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 293094.49396.bm@rrr3.mail.re1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 31918 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2007 07:42:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=XpREQEoXKPLGJfHNBcx/tmJF80iFPp6DJk4wwkqRj3pTWUti85md3xPwsXZb96MhHNgCenpvyMM6t3mtHO9sG5ziEeHfpsgraz11KhO10V64Tn0YiYDPeK36dhrycFnUI/9N6jKlubIasHGIvDS1n8La9pP1bAlNM7/LDaXo+iw=; X-YMail-OSG: cWozNoYVM1kolDV3GGZu4BOj_fxn5gL.L03WqzS3tIVn.4MTbYEyRXWO5QwGjL51Wsb_eg1.gbnjwcMIXjPc87KLcZVK3MmFwJeYxQid7WnL2D2_7k.frHY- Received: from [85.99.33.145] by web45208.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:42:09 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:42:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Sur Demir To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <9845.30022.qm@web45208.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: sysinstall, packages, ports q.s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:56:04 -0000 { this is my second attempt to post, first one over Gmane did not appear in list. Sorry if you get this twice. } Hi, I'm a bit new to FreeBSD, and have few questions challenging my Gentoo Linux mindset: 1. I performed a Minimal 6.2 installation (it boots OK). Then I selected Post installation tasks -> Distributions. There I see "base (required)", it appears unselected. Does this install anything more than what Minimal install did at the first place? 2. I see pkg_add, pkg_delete, pkg_info but no pkg_update. How am I supposed to keep my system up to date, unless I revert to ports? 3. Minimal install provides a number of commands by default like pkg_*, portsnap, gcc, ls, vi, etc but pkg_info does not list any of their packages, which means they're not managed under /var/db/pkg. Then, how am I supposed to upgrade them without ending up with multiple versions? 4. I want to avoid the -CURRENT branch and want to stay with -STABLE branch for now. The page http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html says: "The Ports Collection supports the latest release on the FreeBSD-CURRENT and FreeBSD-STABLE branches." This not clear to me: If I start using ports, am I on -STABLE or not? 5. make.conf is blank by default. Does CPU_TYPE default to i386 in this case? I hope I'm not too confused and sound silly. TIA. ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 08:10:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FBF16A41A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41ED613C442 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l8586Nlb077768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:06:23 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:12:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051012.46793.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Score: -3.977 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Cc: Jim Stapleton Subject: Re: questions on setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:10:16 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 06:25, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [Jim Stapleton] > > I figured I'd try cyrus, I remember hearing that one is a good mail > > server. But I'm new to the mail server thing, and I'm not even sure > > where to look for some of this stuff if anyone can help. Also, I plan > > on just doing POP3, and only allowing secure connections - if anyone > > can reccomend a good, simple server for that, that they think is > > better than Cyrus, I won't object. > > > > My main question is on authentication. I was looking at authentication > > types in kmail to get an idea of what I can use, and I found: > > Clear text > > LOGIN > > PLAIN > > CRAM-MD5 > > Digest-MD5 > > NTLM > > GSSAPI > > APOP > > > > > > I know clear text is not what I want - if I remember, that's > > unencrypted. Does TLS/SSL make this a non-issue? What about the other > > methdods? > > Much of this depends on the mail clients that your going to be > hitting the server with. > > The first group does encryption of the password only. Not sure what's meant by ``the first group'' here. > The TLS/SSL stuff does encryption of everything - password, mail contents, > etc. > > The TLS stuff requires you put a SSL cert into the client. Most people, > not wanting to pay Verisign for this, make their own self-signed certs. > There is a large amount of arcane magic to do this, and to get it accepted > into Windows, so that an Outlook client will do SSL. This isn't true, in my experience. > The first group is a different story. If you want to get Outlook to > work with that, you can only use NTLM. This is also not true, in my experience. > The honest to god truth of the matter is that encrypting your POP3 > and SMTP auth passwords is difficult to do on a large scale no matter > what road you pick to do it, so there is really not a lot of point to > doing it unless your in a rather limited environment. I'm not sure I would agree with this statement either. I've just recently moved a network of 100 users scattered all over South Africa, about half of whom are highly mobile and using multiple forms of connectivity (6 office LANS, an OpenVPN, ADSL and cellular datacards), to an encrypted/authenticated email system. I'm using sendmail and cyrus. I set up a certificate authority (not hard - there are plenty of howtos all over the 'web) and gave the SMTP and IMAP/POP servers their own certificates. All the authentication options you mention after plain text (which is the standard method built in to the protocol) require Cyrus SASL. This isn't as scary to set up as the docs make it sound. PLAIN and LOGIN can both use your existing user passwords (which is what I do). GSSAPI requires Kerberos, and the digest methods (the -MD5 ones) need a separate file of passwords held in plain text - the sasldb. Of the passwd-based methods, PLAIN is the preferred protocol according to the docs and RFCs - LOGIN is the one Microsoft uses (go figure). I've configured sendmail and cyrus to use SASL, offering LOGIN and PLAIN, and to use TLS. sendmail uses STARTTLS on the submission port (587), and cyrus imapd/popd uses STARTTLS on imap and pop3 (143 and 110), plus SSL/TLS on pop3s (995). They are both configured not to offer LOGIN or PLAIN (or plain text login) without a TLS layer in place. Clients are kmail (me), Outlook 2003 (everyone else), and a webmail system using Squirrelmail with up-imapproxy (which is a caching proxy, and also does the STARTTLS stuff for Squirrelmail because Squirrelmail can't). Outlook 2003 uses LOGIN for authentication, and won't do STARTTLS on a pop3 connection (which is where you connect in clear and negotiate encryption, as opposed to connecting to pop3s which is encrypted from the start). The Outlook clients are configured to require authentication for SMTP using the same settings as POP, and to require encryption on both POP and SMTP, with ports 587 for SMTP and 995 for POP. The first time someone collects email with Outlook, they get a warning that the certificate isn't trusted, but also the option to install it. Half a dozen clicks later the certificate is in place. Granted, if you have clients using older versions of Outlook or dozens of different email clients, you may have issues finding working combinations of TLS/STARTTLS/port numbers and authentication methods, but by and large it's just putting a few slightly scary-sounding pieces together on the server - all of which are either in the base system (sendmail: most of the objections to sendmail haven't had any basis in reality for several years. It's now as easy to configure as Postfix, IMHO, and hooking Mimedefang in as a milter gives you the ability to reject a lot of junk during the connection rather than after the fact) or easily added from ports. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 08:13:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AE116A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDF713C442 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id B5D081424F7; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:13:25 +0300 (EEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F4E14250C; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:13:20 +0300 (EEST) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: Steve Bertrand Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:11:45 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <46D58C7A.3070603@ibctech.ca> <200709040937.18538.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <46DD82E3.2010203@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <46DD82E3.2010203@ibctech.ca> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051111.45583.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bonded multilink ADSL connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:13:44 -0000 On Tuesday 04 September 2007 19:08, Steve Bertrand wrote: > With a tiny bit of tweaking, it works like a charm!!! > > Defined bundles: > Bundle Links > ------ ----- > sam l0[Opened/UP] l1[Initial/DOWN] > > Since I don't have the second link connected to this box yet, I suspect > it will come up as soon as I do. Hopefully :) > Thank you so much! You are welcome. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 08:22:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847D016A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDB113C45E for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l858Lru9050972; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Nikola Lecic" Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:22:12 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200709050640.l856eQ7f026093@eunet.yu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: "Russell E. Meek" , Jim Stapleton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:22:24 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikola Lecic > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:41 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Russell E. Meek; Jim Stapleton; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions >=20 >=20 > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:21:47 -0700 > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: >=20 > [...]=20 > > Kind of like the country of Iraq buying a nuclear device -=20 > > they don't know what they have, don't know how to build it, > > and are not qualified at all to use it. > [...] >=20 > Please save us from these words of wisdom. Your opinions about "them" > and about "competence" and "collective knowledge" of world states are > off-topic here. Such arrogancy and ignorance are very miserable. >=20 Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian propagandists warped the metaphor beyond the breaking point in your history and perhaps now, there is a horror of them there that will take generations = to dissipate. In any case, please rest assured I was not talking about nuclear weapons or Iraq, merely incompetent admins running mailservers that were beyond their capabilities. It was merely a metaphor. I would encourage you to get beyond your instinctual knee-jerk reaction against the metaphor, as it is widely used language device in virtually all languages and cultures in use by mankind today. No serious person would ever argue for the proposition that a non-nuclear country be allowed to purchase nuclear weapons, much less use them. As, no serious person should ever argue for "clueless admins" to run mailservers that they know nothing about. Never forget when you or anyone sets up a mailserver on the Internet you are putting a server online that can be used to cause a tremendous amount of damage to other mailservers on the Internet. It is a responsibility that should never be taken lightly. Far too many "Windoze admins" do this already. We as FreeBSD users do not need to emulate such disgusting behavior. Jim posted here asking for help, using words and language that gives serious doubt that he is competent to run a mailserver of any kind. It would be irresponsible in the extreme to tell him to run pell-mell into fielding a system that is way beyond his capabilities. His goal should be to gain competence as well as a mailserver, lest he cause serious problems on the Internet. We do NOT need one more misconfigured server on the Internet that is a spam or virus source. The best way for him to do this - and be a responsible network admin - is to start small, with individual pieces, and learn each subsystem. The worst way would be to drop a canned package in that he doesen't understand. It is to the list's credit that the vast majority of responses to Jim were to direct him to the individual packages - NOT to a "toaster" approach that would likely teach him nothing. Hopefully next time you will stick to addressing the topic of the responses and not get hung up on attacking an alliteration or some other language device that someone might use. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 08:57:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2C116A421 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B19F13C45E; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <46DE6F6F.4020108@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:57:19 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <143A5CF5-6E2F-4BBD-851D-B9BCA4D0BB71@shire.net> In-Reply-To: <143A5CF5-6E2F-4BBD-851D-B9BCA4D0BB71@shire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: no SMP without ACPI? (amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:57:23 -0000 Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > Hi > > I have a 6.2R system (amd64) with the latest patch level. > > The motherboard is a Tyan S5197 i3110 based board with a Core 2 Quad 2.4 > ghz processor. There is 4GB of memory and an Areca ARC-1231ML raid card. > > The problem is that I have to boot without ACPI or the system will > randomly reboot itself when doing something. It will sit idle for ages > but if I do a system build (make buildworld for example), it usually > will not make it through without rebooting. If I boot without ACPI > support (#2 in the boot loader), then the system is fine, I can do a > billion builds without incident, except that I only get 1 CPU. (Yes, > the kernel has SMP option built in). > > I would really like to run with all 4 cores but cannot run with ACPI at > the moment due to instability. > > Any suggestions? Any way to get "old-style" SMP detection working (ie, > without ACPI)? Maybe not, I think ACPI is required by the amd64 spec. Note that this may well be hardware related: without acpi you are only using one CPU, etc, so if one of the others is bad it will only fail when you have ACPI enabled -- even if ACPI itself is not to blame. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 09:07:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F185716A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984A013C474 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l85971UF051261; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 02:07:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jonathan McKeown" , Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 02:07:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200709051012.46793.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: Jim Stapleton Subject: RE: questions on setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:07:06 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jonathan > McKeown > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:13 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Jim Stapleton > Subject: Re: questions on setting up a mail server > > > On Wednesday 05 September 2007 06:25, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > [Jim Stapleton] > > > I figured I'd try cyrus, I remember hearing that one is a good mail > > > server. But I'm new to the mail server thing, and I'm not even sure > > > where to look for some of this stuff if anyone can help. Also, I plan > > > on just doing POP3, and only allowing secure connections - if anyone > > > can reccomend a good, simple server for that, that they think is > > > better than Cyrus, I won't object. > > > > > > My main question is on authentication. I was looking at authentication > > > types in kmail to get an idea of what I can use, and I found: > > > Clear text > > > LOGIN > > > PLAIN > > > CRAM-MD5 > > > Digest-MD5 > > > NTLM > > > GSSAPI > > > APOP > > > > > > > > > I know clear text is not what I want - if I remember, that's > > > unencrypted. Does TLS/SSL make this a non-issue? What about the other > > > methdods? > > > > Much of this depends on the mail clients that your going to be > > hitting the server with. > > > > The first group does encryption of the password only. > > Not sure what's meant by ``the first group'' here. CRAM-MD5, Digest-MD5, NTLM, GSSAPI, and APOP are associated with password encryption on SMTP auth and POP3 as you well know, so please do not try to be deliberately stupid to make a point. Just make your point and get on with it. Most people won't understand anyway. > > > The TLS/SSL stuff does encryption of everything - password, > mail contents, > > etc. > > > > The TLS stuff requires you put a SSL cert into the client. Most people, > > not wanting to pay Verisign for this, make their own self-signed certs. > > There is a large amount of arcane magic to do this, and to get > it accepted > > into Windows, so that an Outlook client will do SSL. > > This isn't true, in my experience. > Your experience is limited then. Sorry, but if you think it is simple, please post a couple pointers. Don't forget to include all versions of Windows and Outlook in current use - that includes Outlook Express 6, and regular Outlook 98, 2000, 2003 that are part of Office, as well as Internet Explorer 5 and 6 and 7. Don't forget to include the scripts needed to generate the keys too. Sure it is simple - when ALL clients are running the same version of Windows, IE, and Outlook. Perhaps true in a small network. Very not true in a large network. > > The first group is a different story. If you want to get Outlook to > > work with that, you can only use NTLM. > > This is also not true, in my experience. > Hmm - earlier you said you didn't know what I was referring to when I was talking about "first group" now you seem certain that you do - as you are including LOGIN and PLAIN (the non-encrypted ones) in the same list as the encrypted ones? Caught you there. Everyone supports LOGIN and PLAIN. (at least I never met a mail program that didn't - perhaps there is one) But, you cannot get password encryption with Outlook Express unless you do NTLM. It supports nothing else, except for SSL which is encryption of the entire channel. If you know of a way to get OE to support CRAM-MD5 then do tell. > > The honest to god truth of the matter is that encrypting your POP3 > > and SMTP auth passwords is difficult to do on a large scale no matter > > what road you pick to do it, so there is really not a lot of point to > > doing it unless your in a rather limited environment. > > I'm not sure I would agree with this statement either. > I perhaps should have explained this more. Encryption of e-mail is absolutely pointless unless done from mail client to mail client a-la PGP or some such. If the cracker can't get the mail sniffed from client to server he can simply go to the server and get it when it's transmitted to the other mailserver via SMTP which is not encrypted. It is only useful for protecting passwords from wire sniffing. But in most cases, the wire isn't sniffable. Your certainly not going to be able to do it in most corporate networks as ethernet switching has been in use for a long time now. Your grandpa's 10baseT ethernet switches would protect as well from casual sniffing as your modern gigabit ones do today. And if your in a corporate environment that still uses hubs you might as well go home since your in an environment that is such an antique that it's going to have a hundred holes even easier to go through than that. Ditto for unencrypted wi-fi, it does not belong in a corporate network. password sniffing only becomes a concern when you have road warriors who are NOT connecting into the mailserver via a VPN (many companies do not allow outside connections that aren't inside a VPN even for popping e-mail) and are NOT using a HTTPS webmail interface - which is going to be the norm if the road warriors are using kiosks. And if the road warriors are using Blackberries or other PDAs as is becoming popular - good effing luck, if they aren't breaking your security running the blackberry client on their PC who knows what they are doing behind your back. And even if you have valid concerns on password sniffing well that's simple enough to address - don't be an idiot and use the same user name and password for your e-mail clients as you use for your network and windows logins. > I've just recently moved a network of 100 users scattered all over South > Africa, about half of whom are highly mobile and using multiple forms of > connectivity (6 office LANS, an OpenVPN, ADSL and cellular > datacards), to an > encrypted/authenticated email system. I'm using sendmail and > cyrus. I set up > a certificate authority (not hard - there are plenty of howtos > all over the > 'web) and gave the SMTP and IMAP/POP servers their own certificates. > I didn't say doing that was hard. The problem is that the entire SSL picture is hard for a newbie. Most newbies to this aren't going to be told to set up a CA and generate certs from it. They will be handed instructions to tell them to setup host self-signed certs then be frustrated when their Outlook 98 and 2K clients reject them. It's only after digging for a long while will they come across some pointers that will shed the light. Of course it's gotten better recently but I still see a lot of people blithly unaware that Outlook 98 and Outlook 2000 will not accept self-signed certs unless the cert was signed by a CA that is inserted in the OS, and posting all manner of misleading instructions telling people this will work. Sorry folks, not everyone has the $$ to upgrade to the latest versions of MS Orafice and get the latest Outlook. > All the authentication options you mention after plain text (which is the > standard method built in to the protocol) require Cyrus SASL. > This isn't as > scary to set up as the docs make it sound. PLAIN and LOGIN can > both use your > existing user passwords (which is what I do). GSSAPI requires > Kerberos, and > the digest methods (the -MD5 ones) need a separate file of > passwords held in > plain text - the sasldb. Of the passwd-based methods, PLAIN is > the preferred > protocol according to the docs and RFCs - LOGIN is the one > Microsoft uses (go > figure). > LOGIN and NTLM. PLAIN and LOGIN are identical, it's merely a naming convention. > I've configured sendmail and cyrus to use SASL, offering LOGIN > and PLAIN, and > to use TLS. Yes, that is the way that most people nowadays do it, as a result of the bugs I referred to with different mail clients. Unfortunately unlike NTLM this does require the client to accept a certificate which means the user has to do something. sendmail uses STARTTLS on the submission port (587), > and cyrus > imapd/popd uses STARTTLS on imap and pop3 (143 and 110), plus SSL/TLS on > pop3s (995). They are both configured not to offer LOGIN or PLAIN > (or plain > text login) without a TLS layer in place. > > Clients are kmail (me), Outlook 2003 (everyone else), and a > webmail system > using Squirrelmail with up-imapproxy (which is a caching proxy, > and also does > the STARTTLS stuff for Squirrelmail because Squirrelmail can't). > > Outlook 2003 uses LOGIN for authentication, and won't do STARTTLS > on a pop3 > connection (which is where you connect in clear and negotiate > encryption, as > opposed to connecting to pop3s which is encrypted from the start). > > The Outlook clients are configured to require authentication for > SMTP using > the same settings as POP, and to require encryption on both POP and SMTP, > with ports 587 for SMTP and 995 for POP. > > The first time someone collects email with Outlook, they get a > warning that > the certificate isn't trusted, but also the option to install it. Half a > dozen clicks later the certificate is in place. > That is only for Outlook 2003, and that Outlook only comes with MS Office. Your making several assumptions here - first that it's an environment with all Outlook (not Outlook Express) and second it's all current Outlook. With Windows Product Activation the bad old days of a corporation buying a single copy of Microsoft Office and loading it on 50 or so machines are long gone. Why do you think that there's a giant fight now over the OpenXML standard? Corporations are done with standardizing on a -version- of MS Office, as they now know that they are going to have mixed networks with different versions of MS Office on them since they cannot pirate software anymore. They now want to standardize on a document format, so they don't get pushed into updating -everyone- on the network when a new verison of Office comes out. For older Outlook versions, you can't just do 6 clicks and install it. And, are you aware that MS has dumped Outlook Express entirely with Windows Vista and IE 7? One more wrinkle for the sites that are not all MS Office on every desktop. And to top all of this off, just wait till you run Vista. IE 7 and Vista give the user almost a dozen Dire Warning Signs This Computer Will Be Cracked when attempting to install a self-signed cert and the final ignomity is the stupid wizard defaults to the personal store not the root store so the CA is not usable by Outlook if they use the default. Just get on the MS-specific board and read all the screaming and bitching among Windows admins about Vista and self-signed certs. > Granted, if you have clients using older versions of Outlook or dozens of > different email clients, you may have issues finding working > combinations of > TLS/STARTTLS/port numbers and authentication methods, Bingo! > but by and > large it's > just putting a few slightly scary-sounding pieces together on the > server - > all of which are either in the base system (sendmail: most of the > objections > to sendmail haven't had any basis in reality for several years. I agree wholeheartedly, I use sendmail for all my mailservers anyway. > It's now as > easy to configure as Postfix, IMHO, and hooking Mimedefang in as a milter > gives you the ability to reject a lot of junk during the > connection rather > than after the fact) or easily added from ports. > greylist milter is also a good one to have. Seriously, it is just a bit more complicated that your making it seem. And, when the OP gets around to asking SPECIFIC questions about these packages then I'll be quite ready to post the options I use to turn them on and so on, as I'm sure you will. But I'm not going to post a recipie when the OP is not willing to interact on the list and is just reading via digest. Screw that. He's (hopefully) read all of this, once I see him making some effort on his part, great! So far though I haven't seen that. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 09:07:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7744316A421 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E42513C442 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l85971UH051261; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 02:07:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Kris Kennaway" , "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 02:07:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <46DE6F6F.4020108@FreeBSD.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: User Questions Subject: RE: no SMP without ACPI? (amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:07:06 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Kris Kennaway > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:57 AM > To: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Cc: User Questions > Subject: Re: no SMP without ACPI? (amd64) > > Note that this may well be hardware related: without acpi you are only > using one CPU, etc, so if one of the others is bad it will only fail > when you have ACPI enabled -- even if ACPI itself is not to blame. > Easily testable by running that Other Operating system on the thing which I would have expected Chad to have done. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 09:16:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5775E16A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E55113C465 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l859G1Aw051312; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 02:16:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 02:16:21 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <70f41ba20709031032n1a5815c4h7e85d4f70f37e9be@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: schneecrash+freebsd@gmail.com Subject: RE: ports/115885: misc/help2man: help2man ignores installed gettext X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:16:03 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of > snowcrash+freebsd > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:33 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ports/115885: misc/help2man: help2man ignores installed > gettext > > > note(s) to self: > > help2man port is borked. > every other port with perl-module dependencies is fine ... > freebsd folks not interested in fix. > do a manual install instead. > problem solved. > > outa here. Ya know, all of this has been real interesting to read - but since none of it (that I could see) was CCed to the gnats PR submitter e-mail address, none of it will be considered by anyone who might have this future problem and be searching the PR database for a fix, much less anyone who might be looking through the PR database history for preparing their own PR on a similar issue. Not to mention anyone on the actual bugs team. (even if a PR is closed you can still add comments to it, ding dong) You might say it was a big exercise in linguistic and technical masterbation. I hope it was as good for you as it was for us! Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 09:16:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23D116A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690AE13C468 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id DD36714263A; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:16:23 +0300 (EEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD53414260A; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:16:20 +0300 (EEST) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:14:44 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <46DE1E05.8030706@sociology.osu.edu> In-Reply-To: <46DE1E05.8030706@sociology.osu.edu> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051214.45291.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: John Crawford Subject: Re: gmirror and booting one and/or the other of the twins, then rebuilding raid 1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:16:25 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 06:09, John Crawford wrote: > I'd like to be able to boot either of the > two drives. That's up to your BIOS. FreeBSD will mount / from the gmirror, which will be backed by one or more disks. Earlier stages will use BIOS to load the kernel, etc. May I suggest {{{ When I configured gmirror on a server, I felt safer pulling the plug than disabling it the normal way. That way I could evaluate that: 1) my BIOS settings are correct regarding booting from both disks. 2) gmirror is doing what I wanted it to do. }}} > I suppose I could use kernel.conf and "di ad0" or "di ad2" > to suppress drive hardware detection, but I'm hoping to > do something simple (with a few keystrokes) during > one of the boot stages to suppress one or another of the > drive detections. I don't recall how to disable a given > device during the an interactive boot procedure. You can detach an ATA channel using "atacontrol detach". Since your disks are on different channels, that's probably what you asked for. Not all controllers/controller drivers support this. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 09:21:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E9B16A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eray.aslan@caf.com.tr) Received: from mail.caf.com.tr (mail.caf.com.tr [88.250.85.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19E913C4B0 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eray.aslan@caf.com.tr) Received: from localhost (sunny.caf.com.tr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.caf.com.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541EC39E355 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:05:14 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=caf.com.tr; s=originating; t=1188983114; bh=u3fBzorA+fwFwatEIrHsU+DilFzvT3r0OVJ b+wmGHbA=; h=DomainKey-Signature:X-Virus-Scanned:Received:Received: Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Organization:User-Agent:MIME-Version: To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-OriginalArrivalTime; b=HDk5PQJ+kQj8var qRkD3pBKN243ra3WeLuDuRFICkBhbQkv7Zu/EnbHoWuR+0zjSNU++/RGm0NYOn/Unwx X91sNwx7dacjffY0jhPWGhJCddmYkJnEi31OBzDOCRsTKrU8m+ptGo4oNUeyT/AhdEC 0BCrjlpp63dCpaIt8SVMA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=originating; d=caf.com.tr; c=nofws; q=dns; h=x-virus-scanned:received:message-id:date:from: organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to: x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-originalarrivaltime; b=AfObNNH5ClrcPxRapMVWrS9OES9j8GeFVOF01zF3ljCvkvUDtOmqvkR1fYl1AMlG3 AFvLy/z1HbYFtd2vPLLZZUZPO86gf7fi3ekBpc4aWuD+vwD9uAb0kPeRri4h85Ux2ve N3FBL2XgIbu+ISg7RgKdOoihwn1PVbtbFIEq7dI= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at caf.com.tr Received: from mail.caf.com.tr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sunny.caf.com.tr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id lRa6CQxxLd3G for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from caf.com.tr (caf02.caf.local [10.0.0.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.caf.com.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9517839E338 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.24] ([10.0.0.24]) by caf.com.tr over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:05:12 +0300 Message-ID: <46DE7148.7090602@caf.com.tr> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:05:12 +0300 From: Eray Aslan Organization: Caf User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2007 09:05:12.0223 (UTC) FILETIME=[DDB95AF0:01C7EF9B] Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:21:17 -0000 On 05.09.2007 11:22, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [...] > Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by > your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion > to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian propagandists > warped the metaphor beyond the breaking point in your history and > perhaps now, there is a horror of them there that will take generations to > dissipate. This is clearly off topic on a technical list. [...] > Hopefully next time you will stick to addressing the topic Good advice. I am sure you could have written your response without mentioning nuclear weapons, Iraq et al. -- Eray > of the > responses and not get hung up on attacking an alliteration or > some other language device that someone might use. > > > Ted > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 10:25:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DF216A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:25:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp102.math.arizona.edu (smtp102.math.arizona.edu [128.196.102.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E56713C458 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:25:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ISs3c-0005Pk-UT for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:24:25 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ISs3c-0005Pc-PF for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:24:24 -0700 Message-ID: <46DE83D0.5060709@math.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:24:16 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070713) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:25:10 -0000 > On 05.09.2007 11:22, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > [...] > >> Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by >> your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion >> to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian propagandists >> warped the metaphor beyond the breaking point in your history and >> perhaps now, there is a horror of them there that will take >> generations to >> dissipate. >> > > I thought were discussing the configuration of the mail server not your hatred toward us Serbs, Iraqis and God knows whom else. But then on the second thought maybe you are trying to teach us how to configure the spam filter. So how high should we set it? Only Serbs from Serbia can not send emails or even we Serbs who live in U. S? Are you coding now MailScanner-antiSerb version or MailScanner-antiIraqi version? > [...] > >> Hopefully next time you will stick to addressing the topic. >> We Serbs are certainly hopping for that! Sincerely, Predrag Punosevac Arizona From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 10:42:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C035716A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258F913C46B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so2354793fka for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:41:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LGDLAVdQTHf9blmTvbKDTGEk2JE9vk3rqXP2As+iLVZnLhd4wHXU3fTQEQti9VRNYl9ML2vaMCnxFp2/quvW+DvorxMtQt5ONqITtTvoOFYY49rq1sc4KRDHhr+JZRs9SZqL1kuey12kBB8hU6t3IRh1oiFRgQDba2yeQ8raMN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P/C/NtOLBSS7wIvwv2KAgJQ8V/XlwnHTmI/I9q1LDnjTrmyPUxQsDskmgqVSZX7ctF/jYAsjksDGILvHi/cIlYjDSoSfwtluP2ic/mUAGuWFwYnkc09CdpB++FMLpMdDyIvz689Mch2UkWaAwgW2iXfs5TJ2AqS3i1q8li9rVBw= Received: by 10.82.183.19 with SMTP id g19mr15944310buf.1188988485610; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.191.14 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 03:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20709050334x3ee9e26ew7296eccae86d6868@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:34:45 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200709050640.l856eQ7f026093@eunet.yu> Cc: Nikola Lecic , "Russell E. Meek" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:42:01 -0000 Please, I didn't intend this to be a flame war - though thinking back, I guess I should have expected strong views on this. This is not the place for such agressiveness. The rest of this is for everyone Thank all of you for your suggestions, I'll look at them. This is a mail server for me and maybe a few friends. I plan on running incoming SMTP, maybe at some point outgoing (requiring authentication/SSL, definetly no relay), no relay, no webmail, POP, if possible only under SSL. I think there's enough here for me to do my research and get what I need. Thank you, -Jim Stapleton On 9/5/07, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikola Lecic > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:41 PM > > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > > Cc: Russell E. Meek; Jim Stapleton; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > > > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:21:47 -0700 > > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > > > [...] > > > Kind of like the country of Iraq buying a nuclear device - > > > they don't know what they have, don't know how to build it, > > > and are not qualified at all to use it. > > [...] > > > > Please save us from these words of wisdom. Your opinions about "them" > > and about "competence" and "collective knowledge" of world states are > > off-topic here. Such arrogancy and ignorance are very miserable. > > > > Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by > your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion > to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian propagandists > warped the metaphor beyond the breaking point in your history and > perhaps now, there is a horror of them there that will take generations to > dissipate. > > In any case, please rest assured I was not talking about nuclear > weapons or Iraq, merely incompetent admins running mailservers > that were beyond their capabilities. It was merely a metaphor. I > would encourage you to get beyond your instinctual knee-jerk > reaction against the metaphor, as it is widely used language device > in virtually all languages and cultures in use by mankind today. > > No serious person would ever argue for the proposition that a > non-nuclear country be allowed to purchase nuclear weapons, much > less use them. As, no serious person should ever argue for > "clueless admins" to run mailservers that they know nothing about. > > Never forget when you or anyone sets up a mailserver on the > Internet you are putting a server online that can be used to > cause a tremendous amount of damage to other mailservers on the > Internet. It is a responsibility that should never be taken > lightly. Far too many "Windoze admins" do this already. We > as FreeBSD users do not need to emulate such disgusting behavior. > > Jim posted here asking for help, using words and language that > gives serious doubt that he is competent to run a mailserver > of any kind. It would be irresponsible in the extreme to tell > him to run pell-mell into fielding a system that is way beyond > his capabilities. His goal should be to gain competence as > well as a mailserver, lest he cause serious problems on the > Internet. We do NOT need one more misconfigured server on the > Internet that is a spam or virus source. The best way for him > to do this - and be a responsible network admin - is to start > small, with individual pieces, and learn each subsystem. The > worst way would be to drop a canned package in that he doesen't > understand. > > It is to the list's credit that the vast majority of responses > to Jim were to direct him to the individual packages - NOT to > a "toaster" approach that would likely teach him nothing. > > Hopefully next time you will stick to addressing the topic of the > responses and not get hung up on attacking an alliteration or > some other language device that someone might use. > > > Ted > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 10:47:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BA416A469 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:47:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778FA13C46A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so2356052fka for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:46:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RVpRq0VbbQVygHexQT7xb2I21nzrupGB2xiHfz8KLItLht5R6FXy6D7dP28Mgs3r9+IfWL+sbhSAOx/NPAPU4ZGt6bh3yWoscBdf7feFm7Cwr7j73hX97UYeyXLjNpUrhZGMCJd+PvIcpAX5ShiGd4xRU0S+GlxdXqMlVoBvwT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RFq/qOcYePe/ByUxaBu6y12l514FzO+ZUT5XKEjQH1J+q1FixSady7gjsFWroTgQYjEQw+eOfuBhnSE/GEQDvg4gW62OPF31UA3xkSuuMmScPG1c6SUcRFxwadXMOxGi1BOjz3IO0cmAZgIofEf/Dj2st3DrcuTwalOZC/h86Ck= Received: by 10.82.154.12 with SMTP id b12mr1218053bue.1188989210256; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.191.14 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 03:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20709050346l21f000f0y552bc0711cfcacfd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:46:49 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: "Jonathan McKeown" In-Reply-To: <200709051012.46793.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200709051012.46793.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions on setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:47:05 -0000 > All the authentication options you mention after plain text (which is the > standard method built in to the protocol) require Cyrus SASL. This isn't as > scary to set up as the docs make it sound. PLAIN and LOGIN can both use your > existing user passwords (which is what I do). GSSAPI requires Kerberos, and > the digest methods (the -MD5 ones) need a separate file of passwords held in > plain text - the sasldb. Of the passwd-based methods, PLAIN is the preferred > protocol according to the docs and RFCs - LOGIN is the one Microsoft uses (go > figure). Thanks, that's almost all of what I needed there. You insinuated (but I don't think explicitly stated) that LOGIN is in fact encrypted in some form? Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 10:54:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2B816A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:54:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D5E13C474 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:54:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so2290456mue for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:54:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nlH+Xj3GFE8nkdjJYZv9EhtbQQcSRZYwzobiuT7rMMWTT+TNE0Jtf+vHz5+CBtRquqK0TjEVDS9ofJmnOZoj/g+9BuPhcf2I1Ahk5h8d/O+Pfuq1Y4o1cZLFEPnfGmKj+WESz5fwcAZA6bZAypIYlMfQfl3rKEbuipvPo7AC31E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=X9SgQHdAvcf5FQuNgCoslwuDiTrMVYk4XnROui11AHi+1MJwhyeTr5ActkcJac9Qmm9stIsBEna/TMK6gYe4GUuIKPlaVPgdOqu/bhRrlM1Fogd8f7Cb4LjhTWqZNAKN6JaLsg/cyD3JYS3Vd7NS/+lk47YUPO7/hYL08e9aX/I= Received: by 10.82.177.3 with SMTP id z3mr8743084bue.1188989683119; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.191.14 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 03:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20709050354q4d186df4y6958e2f81d5dfc66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:54:43 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200709050640.l856eQ7f026093@eunet.yu> Cc: Nikola Lecic , "Russell E. Meek" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:54:58 -0000 > Jim posted here asking for help, using words and language that > gives serious doubt that he is competent to run a mailserver > of any kind. Knowledgeable and competant are two different things. If I were not competant, I would not bother attempting to get that knowledge that I lack. I don't know the nitty gritty details about exactly what and how mail servers are encrypted. I don't know all the nitty gritty details about how everything talks and intercommunicates. I do know that that any time a password goes over the internet (not just LAN) it needs to be encrypted as securly as possible. I do know that mail (and other) servers should live in jails. I do know not to run an open relay (take email from any server to deliver to any server, without authentication, and plan to achieve this by only allowing incoming mail). I do know that there is no such thing as too much paranoia when setting up a server. I know to find out and learn what I don't know, rather than to just stumble along blindly. There, that about covers everything that I do/don't know. -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 11:02:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D668616A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9ADD13C442 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ISrxy-00084z-Ss for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:18:35 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ISrxy-00084r-Kd for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:18:34 -0700 Message-ID: <46DE818D.6080407@math.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:14:37 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <46DE7148.7090602@caf.com.tr> <46DE814C.1060504@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <46DE814C.1060504@math.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:02:19 -0000 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> On 05.09.2007 11:22, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> [...] >> >>> Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by >>> your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion >>> to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian >>> propagandists >>> warped the metaphor beyond the breaking point in your history and >>> perhaps now, there is a horror of them there that will take >>> generations to >>> dissipate. >>> >> >> > I thought were discussing the configuration of the mail server not > your hatred toward us Serbs, Iraqis and God knows whom else. But then > on the second thought maybe you are trying to teach us how to > configure the spam filter. So who high should we set it. Only Serbs > from Serbia can not send emails or even we Serbs who live in U. S? Are > you coding now MailScanner-antiSerb version or MailScanner-antiIraqi > version? > > > >> [...] >> >>> Hopefully next time you will stick to addressing the topic. >>> > We Serbs are certainly hopping for that! > > Sincerely, > Predrag Punosevac > Arizona > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 11:06:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AD716A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212E013C4A8 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373D91CCA6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 03:06:00 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:05:56 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200709050640.l856eQ7f026093@eunet.yu> <80f4f2b20709050334x3ee9e26ew7296eccae86d6868@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709050334x3ee9e26ew7296eccae86d6868@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051305.57950.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:06:04 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 12:34:45 Jim Stapleton wrote: > Thank all of you for your suggestions, I'll look at them. This is a > mail server for me and maybe a few friends. I plan on running incoming > SMTP, maybe at some point outgoing (requiring authentication/SSL, > definetly no relay), no relay, no webmail, POP, if possible only under > SSL. I think there's enough here for me to do my research and get what > I need. Thank you, Don't rule out good old mail/qpopper just yet. Also, be aware that whichever solution you choose, there are scanners out there that won't hesitate to query port 110 with an account guesser, which can spawn many daemons depending on how fast your pop server handles it. You may wanna limit access to port 110 to you and your friends if that's possible or look into a pop server that can limit ammount of requests/second it accepts from host. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 11:15:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E58216A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george.vanev@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B160713C442 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george.vanev@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1880573wxd for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:15:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ShhwhhPGn2Iygal4aYo0+GMtI4/5TH9xOZVqDglB866oIGG2hsMSTFVERD5CAZ2EyXZhfFOoKLv4BO3u4QPHwqlsu8LNUY/k8eAwtw0WxihhGk35mYA5VE8/bvGDbVJY3eZsICe9Sjr3YSo9Xuc7W3ADpyJ2HsCUaQJ2Oxr1nUQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=iS9WxKE2dwnjQbAlUYCVQLZlNIycRe+ypJPGIJJC7RAsWq9UkrPIFHpMNatf11LhR3jXAGoMNDX+On3tNlU6Ao1NmaqD7ybLVeOcafvHzkoP5fWXH4sdFDIcySBiPh0Mk6x1hUIH3f6W8n+dZzcliPE2aBtlpQIA2fNRcb4DuRQ= Received: by 10.90.80.8 with SMTP id d8mr6762996agb.1188990934672; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.75.3 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6f4f57f60709050415w585b9452t1738d979dcfeaf66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:15:34 +0300 From: "George Vanev" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: umount in shell script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: George.Vanev@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:15:45 -0000 Hi all, I have the following script: #!/bin/sh mnt_path='//user@server1/archive' mnt_ip='xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' mkdir /usr/tmp_mnt mount_smbfs -N -I $mnt_ip $mnt_path /usr/tmp_mnt #rotate files #dump mysql database #gzip #encrypt #copy to /usr/tmp_mnt umount /usr/tmp_mnt Sometimes /usr/tmp_mnt is still mounted. It's random behavior. I didn't noticed any logic when it is unmounted or not. OS: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE Thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 11:25:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87F816A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4886D13C4B5 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile.ondsl.gr [83.235.244.135]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-8) with ESMTP id l85BMn0X024118 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:23:08 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l85BMRTF001763; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:22:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l84NrIMY001569; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 02:53:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 02:53:18 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20070904235318.GB1482@kobe.laptop> References: <46DDC93A.50806@cran.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46DDC93A.50806@cran.org.uk> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.704, required 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.20, BAYES_00 -2.60, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12 0.50) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Version of top included in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:25:22 -0000 On 2007-09-04 22:08, Bruce Cran wrote: > I've noticed that the version of top included in FreeBSD is 3.5beta12 > and a new version 3.6 was released last year (see > http://sourceforge.net/projects/unixtop). I realise fixes and > improvements have been made locally in the 3 years since 3.5 was > released, but are there any plans to merge in a newer version, or will > improvements continue to be made locally? It's probably too late to 'merge' the top-3.6 updates for RELENG_7 now, but I'm in the process of doing that. The local FreeBSD improvements are quite extensive and many of them are introducing new useful features, so it would be a shame to lose anything :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 11:25:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0245316A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C441A13C4A5 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EDD1CCA6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 03:25:03 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:25:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <6f4f57f60709050415w585b9452t1738d979dcfeaf66@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6f4f57f60709050415w585b9452t1738d979dcfeaf66@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051325.02036.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: umount in shell script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:25:35 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 13:15:34 George Vanev wrote: > Hi all, > I have the following script: > > > #!/bin/sh > mnt_path='//user@server1/archive' > mnt_ip='xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' > > mkdir /usr/tmp_mnt > mount_smbfs -N -I $mnt_ip $mnt_path /usr/tmp_mnt > > #rotate files > #dump mysql database > #gzip > #encrypt > #copy to /usr/tmp_mnt > > umount /usr/tmp_mnt > > > Sometimes /usr/tmp_mnt is still mounted. > It's random behavior. > I didn't noticed any logic when it is unmounted or not. Unmounts don't work when device is busy, ie: someone using a file or with cwd within the filesystem. umount -f will take care of it, or use fstat -f /usr/tmp_mnt to check before unmounting. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 11:34:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F065516A46B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F6013C459 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:34:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l85BUATg089691 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:30:11 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: "Jim Stapleton" Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:36:34 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200709051012.46793.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <80f4f2b20709050346l21f000f0y552bc0711cfcacfd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709050346l21f000f0y552bc0711cfcacfd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051336.34962.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Score: -3.977 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions on setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:34:10 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 12:46, Jim Stapleton wrote: > > All the authentication options you mention after plain text (which is the > > standard method built in to the protocol) require Cyrus SASL. This isn't > > as scary to set up as the docs make it sound. PLAIN and LOGIN can both > > use your existing user passwords (which is what I do). GSSAPI requires > > Kerberos, and the digest methods (the -MD5 ones) need a separate file of > > passwords held in plain text - the sasldb. Of the passwd-based methods, > > PLAIN is the preferred protocol according to the docs and RFCs - LOGIN is > > the one Microsoft uses (go figure). > > Thanks, that's almost all of what I needed there. You insinuated (but > I don't think explicitly stated) that LOGIN is in fact encrypted in > some form? No, it's just obfuscated. Both PLAIN and LOGIN send the username and password base64-encoded, which doesn't provide any security - it just protects the mailserver from funny characters in passwords. The only difference between PLAIN and LOGIN is that PLAIN combines the username and password into a single string and sends that, whereas LOGIN waits for a prompt, sends the username, waits for another prompt and sends the password. If you enable the option to prevent plaintext methods except under a security layer, both methods will be disabled. If you do decide to use cyrus, there's a useful tool called imtest which connects to the server, negotiates a TLS connection and lets you type IMAP commands at it. You can see the actual exchange of authentication details, and you can use openssl base64 -d to decode the base64 string to see what's sent (man enc for details). You can also test a secured connection using openssl s_client, which has an option for doing STARTTLS against smtp and pop3 servers (man s_client for details). Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 11:43:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C3616A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mchauber@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F22513C4A7 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mchauber@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Sep 2007 11:43:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [192.168.1.102]) [204.116.241.146] by mail.gmx.net (mp044) with SMTP; 05 Sep 2007 13:43:45 +0200 X-Authenticated: #15034054 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18MpiQwxIEMLrMd5XZG245o2fivR/V8htHo/JvwzL BapJ6QD87dvgcR From: Michael Hauber To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:43:37 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709050743.37695.mchauber@gmx.net> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mchauber@gmx.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:43:48 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 00:35:35 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael Hauber > > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:22 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... > > > > > > Hey, all... > > > > > > Because I've put so much time into getting this FreeBSD install > > where it is > > now (and because I favor the BSDs), I'm still a bit hesitant... > > Has anyone > > here had much experience with ubunu as a desktop? Negatives/positives? > > Different strokes for different folks. There's nothing to be > ashamed of for choosing a different OS because it fits your needs > better than FreeBSD. However there is a lot to be ashamed of if > your announcing this to the FreeBSD mailing list as a veiled > attempt to "spur" the FreeBSD developers to make FreeBSD more > ubuntu-like, or to trigger a flame war between ubuntu and FreeBSD > supporters. > > Your post to me kind of seems rather passive-agressive, your > praising and condemming FreeBSD at the same time, in the same > sentences. I can't figure out if your trying to flame-bait or > not, so I'll assume the best, that your not. > > Basically, dude, what you need to do is shit and get off the pot. > Every OS under the sun including Winblows is going to suck up > tinker-time. If you want a computer (or a happy wife I guess) > then you need to accept that and quit whining that you don't have > enough time. Here's a thought - unplug your TV set for a month > and I'll bet you get a lot more tinker time. > > Anyway, you need to load ubuntu and load windows and load debian, > and load red hat and so on and so on and make your own decision > as to which meets your needs. None of us here can read minds > and you haven't stated what your needs are - other than you want > more time, which as I explained is a mirage - there isn't going to > be more time freed up by replacing FreeBSD with something else, your > just going to spend the same time with a different set of problems - > so if you honest-to-god need more time, then give up something > in your life that is consuming time that you gain less from > than your computer. It could be anything from TV to your daily > commute, to smoking, to drinking beer, you name it, whatever. > > Ted =46lamer-bait, no. Lazy tv addict, no. Go back to windows, hell no. Have time, no. Trying to be negative about any BSD, absolutely not. =A0 I asked out of respect for this board, not out of frustration for FreeBSD o= r=20 OpenBSD. =A0The FreeBSD and OpenBSD will probably always be my favorites. Now... =A0As to why I asked this board.... =A0Who better to ask than folks = that=20 have some of the preferences? I needed something that I could take on the road without having to spend a = lot=20 of time upgrading/tweaking. =A0Ubuntu is turning out to be fine for that. Giving something up... =A0I did (for the time being), and I'll miss it. My overall response for all that bullshit you just wrote... =A0Go find some= one=20 else to jerk off. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 11:20:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E2E16A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30812.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30812.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38AAD13C481 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 92555 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2007 11:20:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=iYcIuAbMV5/V+3gveyX2dJzrTIflwfD9KLE/XZ6MA0cmF397v40W9/YwpvjKwGIz7cew3rZmaToHLC1rGIfXMi2CwZ3gGk75hJhGm1LFevs+vxTyfoXxGoX/VfIProNpGuMHrulnLg+uyKYBkO6qhmfWr3mmlhO58d4k9yTtSxc=; X-YMail-OSG: zmEVj9cVM1mBbDo3PEvslldkipxZ0yd2aRithWuVY6iir4OBtpXToFD9CF1FGb8cOoRTWP49aH.F8iilYfSoSWiDKOYj9PAsQqxGiFjP2KWLXsFVUk8tyYVSQ0xctA-- Received: from [68.142.201.143] by web30812.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:20:32 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/651.50 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:20:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielisz Laszlo To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <828704.91922.qm@web30812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:48:12 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: gmail fs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danielisz Laszlo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:20:48 -0000 Does anyone know how to usw gmail fs in FreeBSD?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A__= ___________________________________________________________________________= _______Ready for the edge of your seat? =0ACheck out tonight's top picks on= Yahoo! TV. =0Ahttp://tv.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 11:56:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A1E16A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:56:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobi@casino.uni-stuttgart.de) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A6213C4CC for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:56:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tobi@casino.uni-stuttgart.de) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD5C27AD1 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:56:33 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: kK1NFIwZ2PfmWfVl21/rotZenAvK561/DKetMpInUbjg 1188992832 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [91.21.201.69]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FF63C55 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46DE9733.8010402@casino.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:46:59 +0200 From: Tobias Ernst User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-AT; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070802 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <64c038660709041931i2f83ee9bv9a3e4276c750ff23@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660709041931i2f83ee9bv9a3e4276c750ff23@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Booting to root on gmirror with disk failure, is it even possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:56:51 -0000 Modulok schrieb: > Before I invest significantly more time into my current gmirror > issues, I have but two simple questions for anyone out there: > > 1. Has anyone used gmirror for the root partition and been able to > successfully boot with one failed (or un-plugged) disk? It's the > latter part of the question that is the real issue for me. I'm just > looking for a confirmed "it's possible". Yes, it is possible. IBM xSeries 346, FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, amd64. U360 hard drives. More specs are available from IBM. Using gmirror because we only have an Adaptec "HostRAID" (aka "FakeRAID") controller and not a real "ServerRaid", i.e. our SCSI controller basically has no useful RAID capabilities built in. My test case is to unplug any one disk while the system is running. (Don't do this with your system unless your hardware is specified for hot plugging!). FreeBSD detects a bus reset, marks the gmirror as degraded and continues operating normally, and I can also reboot the degraded gmirror without any problems. The more conservative test case is to power down the system, unplug any one disk, and restart the system. No problems with that either. In fact, the absolutely robust behaviour of gmirror was one of my key arguments for switching from Linux to FreeBSD :-). Of course there are a zillion ways to fail your hard disk, and there could be cases where one hard disk might start behaving erratically, and gmirror might not be able to detect all such cases and might try to continue using the failed disk. This could theoretically lead to some nasty data integrity issues in the worst case. But this is true for any RAID, even when implemented in hardware IMO. Regards Tobias -- Universität Stuttgart|Fakultät für Architektur und Stadtplanung|casinoIT 70174 Stuttgart Geschwister-Scholl-Straße 24D T +49 (0)711 121-4228 F +49 (0)711 121-4276 E office@casino.uni-stuttgart.de I http://www.casino.uni-stuttgart.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 12:07:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B688616A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767B013C494 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 70E806190; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:48:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:48:12 +0100 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070905114811.GB2070@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200709050725.42317.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <200709050735.26298.pollywog@shadypond.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200709050735.26298.pollywog@shadypond.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: loopback won't enable automatically [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:07:50 -0000 --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 07:35:26AM +0000, Pollywog wrote: > > > > I did find it in /etc/default/rc.conf: > > > > ifconfig_lo0=3D"inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configurati= on. >=20 > I found the problem. lo0 was not listed in network_interfaces in rc.conf > Adding it fixed the problem. Do you have this line in your /etc/defaults/rc.conf? network_interfaces=3D"auto" # List of network interfaces (or "auto"). Given your problems, I am highly suspicious that something has spammed your /etc/defaults/rc.conf... --=20 Daniel Bye PGP Key: http://www.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey-dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG3pd7ixf5fBYiFmoRAsFjAKCgrA9MdTH8B3U+VnzK0eyrAIC1zgCfcTAM trM4dLYp/MrkHLVOj6DnAZE= =z5QE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 12:09:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C78616A468 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:09:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D221B13C4D0 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l85C5e9b091756 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:05:41 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:12:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051412.05364.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Score: -3.977 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: questions on setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:09:55 -0000 I've edited ruthlessly to reduce the length of this message. On Wednesday 05 September 2007 11:07, you wrote: > > > > My main question is on authentication. I was looking at > > > > authentication types in kmail to get an idea of what I can use, and I > > > > found: [list of SASL methods plus question what to use] > > > > > > Much of this depends on the mail clients that your going to be > > > hitting the server with. > > > > > > The first group does encryption of the password only. > > > > Not sure what's meant by ``the first group'' here. > > CRAM-MD5, Digest-MD5, NTLM, GSSAPI, and APOP are associated with > password encryption on SMTP auth and POP3 as you well know, so please > do not try to be deliberately stupid to make a point. Just make > your point and get on with it. Most people won't understand > anyway. I wasn't trying to be stupid: I saw a single list of SASL authc methods and wasn't sure where you had drawn the line to divide them into two groups. [...certificates] > > > There is a large amount of arcane magic to do this, and to > > > get it accepted into Windows, so that an Outlook client will do SSL. > > This isn't true, in my experience. > Your experience is limited then. Yes, it is: but with Windows 2000/XP and Outlook 2003, it's not magic. In fact I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was. > Sure it is simple - when ALL clients are running the same version > of Windows, IE, and Outlook. Perhaps true in a small network. Very > not true in a large network. I'll bow to your experience on that. All I can say is that my own view is that the bigger the network, the more important it is to get software standardised across the organisation to reduce your support costs, and the cheaper it is to do through volume licensing. We're a small, donor-funded, African NGO, and we have two versions of Windows (2000 and XP) and one version of Office (2003). We will use Microsoft's down-licensing provision to stick with what we have until we're ready to upgrade everyone. > Everyone supports LOGIN and PLAIN. (at least I never met a mail > program that didn't - perhaps there is one) But, you cannot get > password encryption with Outlook Express unless you do NTLM. It > supports nothing else, except for SSL which is encryption of the > entire channel. > > If you know of a way to get OE to support CRAM-MD5 then do tell. No, Outlook 2003 doesn't support PLAIN - at least I couldn't get it to. That's why I enabled LOGIN. It's true that NTLM is the only encrypted password protocol supported by Microsoft - that's why I'm using an encryption layer with cleartext authentication. > > > The honest to god truth of the matter is that encrypting your POP3 > > > and SMTP auth passwords is difficult to do on a large scale no matter > > > what road you pick to do it, so there is really not a lot of point to > > > doing it unless your in a rather limited environment. > > > > I'm not sure I would agree with this statement either. > > I perhaps should have explained this more. Encryption of e-mail > is absolutely pointless unless done from [end to end] > It is only useful for protecting passwords from wire sniffing. True up to a point. It can also offer integrity - an assurance that the message is from the authenticated identity. Although that assurance is only valid at the first server (the MSA), that may be enough to prevent injection of a variety of kinds of junk with forged sender information. > But in most cases, the wire isn't sniffable. Given that, certainly in my case, the ``wire'' may be cellular, radio, satellite, wireless LAN, or a government, academic or hotel/airport network providing temporary connectivity, I can't say that with confidence. > password sniffing only becomes a concern when you have road > warriors who are NOT connecting into the mailserver via a VPN Again true - but now you're talking about another method of protecting passwords, and another technology to master. In practice, even though I run a VPN as well, I still use TLS at the individual service level to protect passwords ``in flight''. > And even if you have valid concerns on password sniffing well > that's simple enough to address - don't be an idiot and use > the same user name and password for your e-mail clients as > you use for your network and windows logins. I would dispute that this is idiotic. You do need to protect the password much more carefully, but there are advantages to having a single password, easily changed by the user and easily cancelled when the user leaves. [certificate authority not hard] > > I didn't say doing that was hard. The problem is that the entire SSL > picture is hard for a newbie. [...] > It's only after digging for a long while will they come across > some pointers that will shed the light. That's certainly true. The longest part of the design, implementation and rollout of our new mail system was finding all the bits and pieces and working out how to put them together. [of SASL authc methods] > > Of the passwd-based methods, PLAIN is the preferred protocol > > according to the docs and RFCs - LOGIN is the one Microsoft uses > > (go figure). > LOGIN and NTLM. PLAIN and LOGIN are identical, it's merely a naming > convention. No. There are small differences but they are there. PLAIN sends a single string containing the authorization identity, authentication identity, and password. LOGIN expects a prompt to which it replies with the authc identity, then a second prompt to which it replies with the password. The protocol specifies that the content of the two prompts is irrelevant, but Outlook expects specific strings. [long discussion of config details] > > The first time someone collects email with Outlook, they get a > > warning that the certificate isn't trusted, but also the option > > to install it. Half a dozen clicks later the certificate is in > > place. > > That is only for Outlook 2003, and that Outlook only comes with > MS Office. Your making several assumptions here - first that it's > an environment with all Outlook (not Outlook Express) and second > it's all current Outlook. > > With Windows Product Activation the bad old days of a corporation > buying a single copy of Microsoft Office and loading it on 50 > or so machines are long gone. Why do you think that there's a giant > fight now over the OpenXML standard? Corporations are done with > standardizing on a -version- of MS Office, as they now know that > they are going to have mixed networks with different versions of > MS Office on them since they cannot pirate software anymore. They > now want to standardize on a document format, so they don't get > pushed into updating -everyone- on the network when a new verison > of Office comes out. Again, I wouldn't run a network like that because of the support problems it causes - this being one example. You can buy one copy of Microsoft Office and a volume licence, and Microsoft will allow you to downlicense so that you can standardise on an earlier version until you are ready to upgrade. This approach to licensing is one thing they get right, IMO. > For older Outlook versions, you can't just do 6 clicks and install > it. And, are you aware that MS has dumped Outlook Express entirely > with Windows Vista and IE 7? One more wrinkle for the sites that > are not all MS Office on every desktop. > > Granted, if you have clients using older versions of Outlook or dozens of > > different email clients, you may have issues finding working > > combinations of TLS/STARTTLS/port numbers and authentication methods, > > Bingo! Yes, but in a business environment, almost the first problem you need to solve is controlling which clients are going to connect to the mail server. If you haven't managed to standardise on one or two clients across a large organisation, you're probably too busy doing support to worry about setting up a new email system. > > but by and large it's just putting a few slightly scary-sounding > > pieces together on the server - all of which are either in the > > base system (sendmail: most of the objections to sendmail haven't > > had any basis in reality for several years. > I agree wholeheartedly, I use sendmail for all my mailservers anyway. > > It's now as easy to configure as Postfix, IMHO, and hooking > > Mimedefang in as a milter gives you the ability to reject a lot of > > junk during the connection rather than after the fact) or easily > > added from ports. > greylist milter is also a good one to have. I haven't tried putting any obstacles in the way of incoming mail over and above the difficulties many mail admins cause themselves. You would be astonished at what I see coming over the transom on my mailservers, especially the Mailman box (we host a number of lists). As it is, we take a few steps that end up rejecting over 80% of our incoming connections. > Seriously, it is just a bit more complicated that your making it > seem. Yes and no. It's a big deal trying to get your head round all the different packages, all the various options, and all the conflicting advice; but having done it once, I'm confident I could do it again quickly and simply and that (if I had world enough, and time) I could talk someone else through the process, not only of doing it, but of understanding it. > And, when the OP gets around to asking SPECIFIC questions > about these packages then I'll be quite ready to post the options > I use to turn them on and so on, as I'm sure you will. Yes. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 12:10:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535C516A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A562313C428; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <46DE9CAE.9090409@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:10:22 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Danielisz Laszlo References: <828704.91922.qm@web30812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <828704.91922.qm@web30812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmail fs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:10:25 -0000 Danielisz Laszlo wrote: > Does anyone know how to usw gmail fs in FreeBSD? If there is a FUSE module that does it, you might get it to work. It's always going to be a big hack though. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 12:26:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82E316A509 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F58F13C46C for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:26:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from freebsdgr.dyndns.org (athedsl-280895.home.otenet.gr [85.73.144.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l85CQpcA003495; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:26:51 +0300 Message-ID: <46DEA08B.6060604@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:26:51 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070806) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sur Demir References: <9845.30022.qm@web45208.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <9845.30022.qm@web45208.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall, packages, ports q.s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:26:54 -0000 Sur Demir wrote: > { this is my second attempt to post, first one over Gmane did not > appear in list. Sorry if you get this twice. } > > Hi, > I'm a bit new to FreeBSD, and have few questions challenging my Gentoo > Linux mindset: > > Welcome to the FreeBSD club! May I first suggest you read the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ I will attempt to give you some quick hints to get you started, but you will find a lot of details for all this stuff in the handbook, and also googling and searching the list archives. > 1. I performed a Minimal 6.2 installation (it boots OK). Then I > selected > Post installation tasks -> Distributions. There I see "base > (required)", > it appears unselected. Does this install anything more than what > Minimal > install did at the first place? > I believe the minimal install just installs the base system. I usually perform a custom installation and select absolutely everything but the Xorg distribution, which has been updated anyway and there is no real reason to install from CD at this point. > 2. I see pkg_add, pkg_delete, pkg_info but no pkg_update. How am I > supposed to keep my system up to date, unless I revert to ports? > There are ways to keep your system updated using binary packages if you prefer. Most people however tend to compile from source (the ports system). I use portupgrade (which you can install from /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade or portupgrade-devel port), and there is an option in it to use binary packages. I can do something like: portupgrade -PP -a to upgrade all my apps using binary packages. However I much prefer to use ports (except for large apps like openoffice that may - depending on your hardware - take even days to compile). In fact for some ports you may not get a binary package at all, or it may be outdated. Ports always offer the latest version. There are quite a few port management utilities except portupgrade as well. > 3. Minimal install provides a number of commands by default like pkg_*, > portsnap, gcc, ls, vi, etc but pkg_info does not list any of their > packages, which means they're not managed under /var/db/pkg. Then, how > am I supposed to upgrade them without ending up with multiple versions? > That is because you have not installed any packages really! You just have the base system, which is not managed by these utilities. Pkg_info is for third party apps you install from ports (or binary packages). If you need to upgrade the base system there are quite a few options: 1. Run the freebsd-update utility to get your system up to date by downloading binary patches for the main system. You will still be running a -RELEASE version, albeit a patched one (e.g. 6.2-RELEASE-p7). These are mostly security patches. 2. Use csup to get the sources from -STABLE or -CURRENT, compile and install kernel and world. You will get either a STABLE or a CURRENT system. The process is well described in the handbook. If you are a beginner I suggest you stay with the RELEASE (+freebsd-update) version for a while. This is painless (just two commands: freebsd-update fetch followed by freebsd-update install). As an intermediate step, learn how to configure & compile your own custom kernel (it is easier than it sounds, and also well described in the handbook). 3. Upgrade from CD/DVD when a new release is out. > 4. I want to avoid the -CURRENT branch and want to stay with -STABLE > branch for now. The page http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html says: > "The Ports Collection supports the latest release on the > FreeBSD-CURRENT > and FreeBSD-STABLE branches." > This not clear to me: If I start using ports, am I on -STABLE or not? > You will be using STABLE only if you use csup to get the sources for the base system, and perform (2) above. It is perfectly valid to install updated ports on a RELEASE system. For this, you will have to update your ports tree using csup. A quick start for this: - copy the file /usr/share/examples/ports-supfile to a convenient place (e.g. /root) - Edit the copied file and change the host line (CHANGE_THIS) to a mirror near you. - Run a command like csup -g -L 2 /root/ports-supfile to upgrade your ports tree Many beginners are confused by the idea that csup (or cvsup) can be used to upgrade both the ports tree (for applications) and the src tree (base system upgrades). Yes, it is the same utility, but you will be using different configuration files. > 5. make.conf is blank by default. Does CPU_TYPE default to i386 in this > case? > > Assuming you installed the 32bit version of FreeBSD, I guess so. Someone else may be able to give you a better answer on this one. > I hope I'm not too confused and sound silly. TIA. > Nope. You are just overwhelmed by information that has not yet settled in your CPU... er I mean mind :) > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? > Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 12:48:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449B016A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D801613C48A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so6090764pyb for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:48:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=EPp6p9t6dW2sh3cYwUIxFW5OEYrPTJZZ4kdekW16hVzV3EGvfs6nKTTxdBWQtY+lQEk+/PY7Dt4yGlaY5g1B4sv4GYp60GYFeUUaLaZzSh0W97wZqAtx3vT41s64U6kuBxH9iS860hVQ1Ff/GE+xlBulvvIGA1RkDrkPQmtw/K8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ICaB3Ljg/fK8RjVLMc9muE68LpVwPn1HLNWmHLiqihRJOTv9oc81QWG8oGRfOcc2n7iiy95CGBn5tYLPWB9FsK7FS70lSlOUIxpiYJwvDP5AGOdCi9v8V7k/ro8pDWoqx39zLiwdXNagqjClFDwj4hWbkOrfNko/l67bzZcZdts= Received: by 10.35.41.8 with SMTP id t8mr8717562pyj.1188996507027; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.14? ( [74.95.66.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n63sm8747716pyh.2007.09.05.05.48.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:48:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <64c038660709041931i2f83ee9bv9a3e4276c750ff23@mail.gmail.com> References: <64c038660709041931i2f83ee9bv9a3e4276c750ff23@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Crist Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:48:22 -0500 To: Modulok X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting to root on gmirror with disk failure, is it even possible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:48:38 -0000 On Sep 4, 2007, at 9:31 PMSep 4, 2007, Modulok wrote: > Before I invest significantly more time into my current gmirror > issues, I have but two simple questions for anyone out there: > > 1. Has anyone used gmirror for the root partition and been able to > successfully boot with one failed (or un-plugged) disk? It's the > latter part of the question that is the real issue for me. I'm just > looking for a confirmed "it's possible". > > 2. If yes, what version of FreeBSD, what brand/model of hard disks, > and what mainboard was used? > We have been using gmirror on some Dell systems for a while now, and we put it through it's paces before we deployed it to production. We pulled drives while the system was running, rebooted, the works. We found gmirror to be pretty fault tolerant and were not able to get it to fail. If you pull your main drive, the system was always able to successfully boot from the second drive. Rebuilding was always possible, as well. Our tests were done on older Dell PowerEdge 1650's with Fujitsu SCSI drives. I don't know specifically what model/manufacturer the motherboard is. If there's any other questions, feel free to ask! ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 12:59:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEB416A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F74413C491 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so6095033pyb for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:59:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=CbSCjbBtahWqzTw4heUO+7qurLfgdDImghuigZV+qOPBj7OvoqY6FLnuUk7F8xP8UoQuUoIektiQhIar4NwsAd5skVmPDb9adAze4kRTXmT+YbAgY0qOwAacHrVhEqemrJjzy0OZMSsS1foO1daWrf7CN0Z9tFUYmWx59J94/m0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=uk09BYMUmRUH+b27+naXCJog1W6gss/+UD2DWs5Xzf5g5o5TS3d0zhKN58L8tsq7ryhSjkjMhrCZRD3/j3FZIZ3jcJJwjwvLfLvdJwYIm29Bc7kKMpTGIXhvvjq0kxjtCtfT1UFpsvw9+sdBpPl3afl0Pl35lceYdKZ/ZB9QKuk= Received: by 10.35.87.8 with SMTP id p8mr8717466pyl.1188997144827; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.14? ( [74.95.66.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f60sm8743760pyh.2007.09.05.05.59.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:59:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709050346l21f000f0y552bc0711cfcacfd@mail.gmail.com> References: <200709051012.46793.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <80f4f2b20709050346l21f000f0y552bc0711cfcacfd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Crist Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:58:58 -0500 To: "Jim Stapleton" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan McKeown Subject: Re: questions on setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:59:09 -0000 On Sep 5, 2007, at 5:46 AMSep 5, 2007, Jim Stapleton wrote: >> All the authentication options you mention after plain text (which >> is the >> standard method built in to the protocol) require Cyrus SASL. This >> isn't as >> scary to set up as the docs make it sound. PLAIN and LOGIN can >> both use your >> existing user passwords (which is what I do). GSSAPI requires >> Kerberos, and >> the digest methods (the -MD5 ones) need a separate file of >> passwords held in >> plain text - the sasldb. Of the passwd-based methods, PLAIN is the >> preferred >> protocol according to the docs and RFCs - LOGIN is the one >> Microsoft uses (go >> figure). > > Thanks, that's almost all of what I needed there. You insinuated (but > I don't think explicitly stated) that LOGIN is in fact encrypted in > some form? > > Thanks, > Only across SSL/TLS connections. ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 13:45:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE0C16A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@techally.com) Received: from arrakis.techally.com (arrakis.techally.com [208.185.33.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8474C13C45A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@techally.com) Received: (qmail 73685 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2007 09:18:06 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.2.169?) (66.9.125.194) by arrakis.techally.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 09:18:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: <46DE2C4A.9010008@pacific.net.sg> References: <46DE2C4A.9010008@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <37F830DC-9913-446F-9850-A2B8482A8C26@techally.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mikel King Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:16:33 -0400 To: Erich Dollansky X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Pollywog , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: doubts about the freebsd devil X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:45:01 -0000 On Sep 5, 2007, at 12:10 AM, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> Them's fighting words - don't you realize an entire subgroup of the >> FreeBSD developers spent untold amounts of time and effort setting up >> a rigged contest to attempt to convince the userbase that there was >> such a difference, in order to replace the logo with a round red sex >> toy? > oh no. > > I always thought this glow in the eyes of women when mentioning > FreeBSD came from the operating system's performance. > > Erich Believe you me, performance has everything to do with it... and FreeBSD just performs better... :D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 14:16:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5748016A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD7A13C478 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l85EFlhn053275; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:15:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:16:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200709050743.37695.mchauber@gmx.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:16:27 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael Hauber > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 4:44 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... > > > Now...  As to why I asked this board....  Who better to ask than > folks that > have some of the preferences? > Why on earth would you think FreeBSD folks would be out advocating for Ubuntu? I didn't realize this mailing list was renamed freebsd-questions-about-other-oses-i-want-to-switch-to > I needed something that I could take on the road without having > to spend a lot > of time upgrading/tweaking.  Ubuntu is turning out to be fine for that. > More flame bait, you just can't give up trying eh? Note -I- wasn't the only one that said Ubuntu wouldn't be any better than FreeBSD. > > My overall response for all that bullshit you just wrote... But it looks like I -was- the only one that outed you, ya troll. No wonder you saved your (weak) flaming for me. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 12:49:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BE316A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1332313C4CE for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 30100 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2007 12:49:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=SmafBlXLz17mI1xiAMOPlPUfqpMEJ+APbzThsnufcmlT+oZDtZWQXnyi0CaHMUiLnNTTyUgdgzL5qYHDr3furlsTbA+jNnCgsSB6+r0BX062wl/Z6iRo6AvWgx5TNImYpg4KJK/HUddDDVYgOpRUxQIA684RjIlHhcLm83nE5RY=; X-YMail-OSG: 44KZBRgVM1nDdIRUSQSufIJKvoQDufho9qLWcyo840BBKM.xFgsN07LhMRegERgP_kR1Pa_F2gSrSD1lTCbaAIS2I7X81Wc0PXXKXlxdfMjUjDxB6GCOuOZ.QQ-- Received: from [68.142.201.149] by web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:49:11 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/651.50 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 05:49:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielisz Laszlo To: Kris Kennaway , Danielisz Laszlo MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <981284.29836.qm@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:25:56 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gmail fs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danielisz Laszlo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:49:28 -0000 thank you Kris!=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Kris Kennaway =0ATo: Danielisz Laszlo =0ACc: Fr= eeBSD Questions =0ASent: Wednesday, Septembe= r 5, 2007 3:10:22 PM=0ASubject: Re: gmail fs=0A=0ADanielisz Laszlo wrote:= =0A> Does anyone know how to usw gmail fs in FreeBSD?=0A=0AIf there is a FU= SE module that does it, you might get it to work. It's =0Aalways going to = be a big hack though.=0A=0AKris=0A_________________________________________= ______=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.= org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "= freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A = =0A________________________________________________________________________= ____________=0ASick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's =0AComedy with an Edg= e to see what's on, when. =0Ahttp://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 14:36:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCDC16A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@severious.net) Received: from ion.gank.org (ion.gank.org [69.55.238.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168D613C4A3 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cb@severious.net) Received: by ion.gank.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BFECA11143; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:36:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:36:04 -0500 From: Craig Boston To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070905143604.GA6947@nowhere> Mail-Followup-To: Craig Boston , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200709050725.42317.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <200709050735.26298.pollywog@shadypond.com> <20070905114811.GB2070@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070905114811.GB2070@catflap.slightlystrange.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: loopback won't enable automatically [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:36:13 -0000 On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 12:48:12PM +0100, Daniel Bye wrote: > Given your problems, I am highly suspicious that something has spammed > your /etc/defaults/rc.conf... Or a mergemaster gone wrong (or forgotten to be run). Craig From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 14:38:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF3D16A469 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mchauber@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59C5313C4A6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:38:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mchauber@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Sep 2007 14:38:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [192.168.1.102]) [204.116.241.146] by mail.gmx.net (mp042) with SMTP; 05 Sep 2007 16:38:34 +0200 X-Authenticated: #15034054 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/VyVUS0VXVzRvG2k/8bBcsnMbkM+jbEorIwoG44r VbVOnYwfCTg3UD From: Michael Hauber To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:38:25 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <200709050743.37695.mchauber@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200709050743.37695.mchauber@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051038.26280.mchauber@gmx.net> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mchauber@gmx.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:38:37 -0000 I apologize for that last comment... That was uncalled for. My time is limited because of my having to juggle so many things at once, and working on the road isn't helping me any (as much as I like the work). My wife is now travelling with me, so that was also part of the equation. Things will slow down eventually, and I'll be back then. I basically took your response as your calling me a lazy whiner... To that, I must say that I save lazy for Sundays (or until I pass out). The whiner part... I'm not much for the drink... :) I appreciate you, Ted. Over the years, I've learned a lot from you, and hell.... I even have your book... But I'll be damned if you don't parse me off sometimes. :) Anyway... A public apology for a public ass-showing... And I don't want to leave the board with the impression that I'm an ass (or at least a complete one), Cheers, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 14:57:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E049916A41A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-72.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-72.bluehost.com [69.89.20.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF6AD13C4DA for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 28354 invoked by uid 0); 5 Sep 2007 14:31:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 14:31:15 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISvuU-0006Ih-Ui for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:31:15 -0600 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l84Goos2088669 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:50:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l84Gonta088668 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:50:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:50:49 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070904165049.GI88264@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <46DE7148.7090602@caf.com.tr> <46DE814C.1060504@math.arizona.edu> <46DE818D.6080407@math.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46DE818D.6080407@math.arizona.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Cc: Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:57:59 -0000 On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 03:14:37AM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> > >I thought were discussing the configuration of the mail server not > >your hatred toward us Serbs, Iraqis and God knows whom else. But then > >on the second thought maybe you are trying to teach us how to > >configure the spam filter. So who high should we set it. Only Serbs > >from Serbia can not send emails or even we Serbs who live in U. S? Are > >you coding now MailScanner-antiSerb version or MailScanner-antiIraqi > >version? This "discussion" has gotten thoroughly bizarre rather quickly. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Larry Wall: "A script is what you give the actors. A program is what you give the audience." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 15:17:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFFA16A496 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjw43@drexel.edu) Received: from smtp.mail.drexel.edu (pm3.irt.drexel.edu [144.118.29.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 876D113C467 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjw43@drexel.edu) Received: from smtp.mail.drexel.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.mail.drexel.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AC68502F4 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:16:51 -0400 (EDT) X-No-SMTP-Auth: unauthenticated sender Received: from capitolreef.irt.drexel.edu (capitolreef.irt.drexel.edu [144.118.30.201]) by smtp.mail.drexel.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 2979E502D7 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7586562.1189005399171.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:16:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Wilson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: errors after running make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:17:12 -0000 I'm trying to install ndiswrapper from a .tar.gz file. I'm running make for the first time, so I am unfamiliar with it. But I have read instructions for installing ndiswrapper. I keep getting errors, but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Here's what I did. I copied the ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz file from cdrom to /usr/src directory. Then: # cd /usr/src # tar -xvf ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz # cd ndiswrapper-1.47 # make After running the make command, I get an error message which goes line by line like this: ... "Makefile", line 57: Need an operator "Makefile", line 60: Need an operator "Makefile", line 67: Need an operator ... "Makefile", line 109: Missing dependency operatpr "Makefile", line 111: Need an operator "Makefile", line 112: Missing dependency operator ... Error expanding embedded variable. *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.47. After this, the root command prompt returns. Am I working with a makefile that needs editing or has errors; or what else I am doing wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 15:23:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC27116A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AA113C468 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF3C8036 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by slider.shadypond.com (postoffice) with ESMTP id DBA14B67AC for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:22:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:22:58 +0000 References: <200709050735.26298.pollywog@shadypond.com> <20070905114811.GB2070@catflap.slightlystrange.org> In-Reply-To: <20070905114811.GB2070@catflap.slightlystrange.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051522.58261.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: loopback won't enable automatically [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:23:09 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 11:48:12 Daniel Bye wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 07:35:26AM +0000, Pollywog wrote: > > > I did find it in /etc/default/rc.conf: > > > > > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device > > > configuration. > > > > I found the problem. lo0 was not listed in network_interfaces in rc.conf > > Adding it fixed the problem. > > Do you have this line in your /etc/defaults/rc.conf? > > network_interfaces="auto" # List of network interfaces (or "auto"). > Yes, I have that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 15:23:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752CB16A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3123513C458 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so1166383nzf for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:23:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=nfpjMC0OAh1Z/IEbwDb9ScXaY4qp3RveFjHsb5lLzEtpbeSVXErqjci6OSUTX5/DU8XjgUK98LrMOvTZGDd2pyUK7hm8hPhsX4rPnRliZx0blhIv33yLHX2I2yWTUvVbMDlg3y1yaQn/V/hYmODmwcY6VN71VXUjMuZ7rXwRmEY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=n7z4dBjNEiow97G63/EaXlMjBubuX8mZOP+WR9LeQOJJOXvzaELpTDT/CRQZveHv8OSF5Z5tl5xPyycN9VyscOsn4rtpceP3yODqtxWizppkcZXER08PFnsiKuX1k/01vWkau8yenRsbnijvcdPjFMzhF4rEvTyEnDH+qCO44BU= Received: by 10.142.111.14 with SMTP id j14mr370209wfc.1189004241963; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.216.20 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0709050757s7954b953q55008f5811622fd6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:57:21 -0400 From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: samba / remote windows machine / nagios X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:23:50 -0000 does anyone knows how i can monitor for a date file on a remote windows machine from my freebsd through samba client i guess, so result can be reported to nagios? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 15:24:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD9916A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC5F13C457 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1525F800D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by slider.shadypond.com (postoffice) with ESMTP id C1C94B67AC for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:24:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:23:46 +0000 References: <20070905114811.GB2070@catflap.slightlystrange.org> <20070905143604.GA6947@nowhere> In-Reply-To: <20070905143604.GA6947@nowhere> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051523.46812.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: loopback won't enable automatically [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:24:22 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 14:36:04 Craig Boston wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 12:48:12PM +0100, Daniel Bye wrote: > > Given your problems, I am highly suspicious that something has spammed > > your /etc/defaults/rc.conf... > > Or a mergemaster gone wrong (or forgotten to be run). This is a possibility From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 15:27:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED85E16A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from eunet.yu (smtpclu-1.eunet.yu [194.247.192.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616A313C4CE for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-223-251.eunet.yu [213.198.223.251]) by eunet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l85FJPIx006295; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:19:26 +0200 Message-Id: <200709051519.l85FJPIx006295@eunet.yu> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:19:51 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: References: <200709050640.l856eQ7f026093@eunet.yu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_50,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: 0.0 Cc: "Russell E. Meek" , Jim Stapleton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:27:30 -0000 On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:22:12 -0700 "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by > your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion > to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian > propagandists warped the metaphor beyond the breaking point in your > history and perhaps now, there is a horror of them there that will > take generations to dissipate. Congratulations. This is an international project and not your parochial meeting where you can discuss the knowledge gleaned from TV end enjoy such fascinating vocabulary and deductions related to someone's TLD. Please learn how to behave appropriately before you post. (A friendly advice: _please_ take some literature lessons in order to learn what is metaphor.) Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87, Belgrade, Serbia From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 15:36:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A5816A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:36:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B101413C4B0 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:36:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=49207) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISwvf-0002o8-D7; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:36:32 +0800 Message-ID: <46DECDF8.5030602@adempiere.org> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:10:40 +0330 From: "Bahman M." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terrence Wilson References: <7586562.1189005399171.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> In-Reply-To: <7586562.1189005399171.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: errors after running make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:36:49 -0000 Terrence Wilson wrote: > I'm trying to install ndiswrapper from a .tar.gz file. I'm running make > for the first time, so I am unfamiliar with it. But I have read > instructions for installing ndiswrapper. I keep getting errors, but I'm > not sure what I'm doing wrong. > > Here's what I did. I copied the ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz file from cdrom > to /usr/src directory. Then: > > # cd /usr/src > # tar -xvf ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz > # cd ndiswrapper-1.47 > # make > > After running the make command, I get an error message which goes line > by line like this: > > ... > "Makefile", line 57: Need an operator > "Makefile", line 60: Need an operator > "Makefile", line 67: Need an operator > ... > "Makefile", line 109: Missing dependency operatpr > "Makefile", line 111: Need an operator > "Makefile", line 112: Missing dependency operator > ... > Error expanding embedded variable. > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.47. > > After this, the root command prompt returns. Am I working with a > makefile that needs editing or has errors; or what else I am doing > wrong? Have you tried gmake instead of make? (ports/devel/gmake) HTH, Bahman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 15:40:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6304016A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [66.92.130.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1862713C483 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ozzie.tundraware.com [66.92.130.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l85FdZkm081366 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:39:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <46DECDBB.3000906@tundraware.com> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:39:39 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20060911) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: 6.2 Hangs Probing Floppy During Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:40:07 -0000 I recently noted this problem and thought it was related to a new MOBO I'd just installed. I've now seen the exact same problem with an old MOBO when I loaded FBSD 6.2. IOW, the following appears to be a 6.2 artifact: During the boot probe, FreeBSD 6.2 (Release or -STABLE) hangs for several minutes while probing the floppy. Eventually, it does get through it, but it takes a loooong time. Disabling the floppy in the machine BIOS makes the problem go away because FBSD sees no floppy to probe, but that's not an optimal soltion. I DAGS and saw that others have seen this same problem but could not find a solution anywhere ... TIA, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 15:43:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B1716A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4242B13C457 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l85Fc9tH031380; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:38:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l85Fc9wi031379; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:38:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:38:09 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20070905153809.GC31228@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <46DE2C4A.9010008@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46DE2C4A.9010008@pacific.net.sg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Pollywog , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: doubts about the freebsd devil X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:43:20 -0000 On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 12:10:50PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >Them's fighting words - don't you realize an entire subgroup of the > >FreeBSD developers spent untold amounts of time and effort setting up > >a rigged contest to attempt to convince the userbase that there was > >such a difference, in order to replace the logo with a round red sex > >toy? > > > oh no. > > I always thought this glow in the eyes of women when mentioning FreeBSD > came from the operating system's performance. Well, 'performance' maybe. Not sure about the operating system part. ////jerry > > Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 15:44:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E36616A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:44:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EAD13C428 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1368725rvb for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:44:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oa8xwv8sDGsR8gphbbBlJuMRrcKpM1WSdp5sX1AQAPuS4BCTQAEcvLtmFUUa2VDc26UMfdXvFdta1n/bor32CK2HHKaRjYHAmYr9o5mSJn0YPgxgVmHXp5tm0wYxNQPCMZtsO2LhBlvEPfOH+S9hB6/8nbD/RLch3IDNBMAAbdo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TypVbmcZDk+WdGZXn3HpQP4XezmeniZXdP0LXuJ6/kbNa0bxyX+gfrYlKbiVZ5kwR3tBqRVSwnHeMtZFy5Tvoy5H8UW2/3jwj4bsqYZy3x28ox6h1YrLckEdfzPtV0ZjNJ7t+X6GYLmuPqdL+vspNKaVMcs7PoqtkJOzI41tZuI= Received: by 10.141.42.10 with SMTP id u10mr2870739rvj.1189007055412; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.79.9 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94136a2c0709050844v112e3478l5e30af2fef4aebbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:44:15 +0200 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200709051519.l85FJPIx006295@eunet.yu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200709050640.l856eQ7f026093@eunet.yu> <200709051519.l85FJPIx006295@eunet.yu> Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:44:28 -0000 Hi, 2007/9/5, Nikola Lecic : > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:22:12 -0700 > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > > Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by > > your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion > > to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian > > propagandists warped the metaphor beyond the breaking point in your > > history and perhaps now, there is a horror of them there that will > > take generations to dissipate. > > Congratulations. > > This is an international project and not your parochial meeting where > you can discuss the knowledge gleaned from TV end enjoy such > fascinating vocabulary and deductions related to someone's TLD. I wonder if all thread participants can relax a bit? I have always been impressed how friendly this list is. Have been watching this thread and cannot understand how it came that such a flame war broke out. Please cool down and stop sending rubbish to everyone's inbox. Continue off list if you really have to. Warm regards, Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 15:46:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA24B16A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F00C13C480 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l85FjsYo056450; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:45:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:46:17 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200709051038.26280.mchauber@gmx.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:46:13 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael Hauber > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:38 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... > > > I apologize for that last comment... That was uncalled for. > > My time is limited because of my having to juggle so many things > at once, and > working on the road isn't helping me any (as much as I like the > work). My > wife is now travelling with me, so that was also part of the equation. > Things will slow down eventually, and I'll be back then. > > I basically took your response as your calling me a lazy > whiner... To that, I > must say that I save lazy for Sundays (or until I pass out). The whiner > part... I'm not much for the drink... :) > > I appreciate you, Ted. Over the years, I've learned a lot from you, and > hell.... I even have your book... Thank you! > But I'll be damned if you > don't parse me > off sometimes. :) > That is my job. The ONLY way to get someone to re-examine their assumptions is to piss them off. It's why politicians get more votes rabble-rousing than telling everyone how great things are. And naturally, those that don't want to re-examine their own ass-umptions don't like being pissed off, don't like rabble-rousers, and bitch when they see rabble-rousing. But, change never happens easy. Your not going to get a Windows users switched over to Open Source unless you piss him off - force him to defend his ass-umption that Windows is the greatest operating system since sliced bread. Doing this is what gets him to re-examine his assumptions. And that is after all the name of the game here - to get the people away from the unhealthy MS monopolizing of the computer business that are salvagable. > Anyway... A public apology for a public ass-showing... And I > don't want to > leave the board with the impression that I'm an ass (or at least > a complete > one), No problem Mike - and I apologize as well for saying you were whining. As I said, I didn't take your post originally as a troll's post. But I do take exception to the implication - perhaps unintended - that Ubuntu takes less "tinker-time". Ubuntu is configured a certain way - if your needs align with how it is configured it is going to take less time -for you- to tweak. As is, Windows is configured a certain way, if it aligns with someone's needs then it will take less time for -that- person to tweak. This is how it is with all the "canned configuration" operating systems. Right now Ubuntu is growing very fast since it's canned configuration is the closest alignment with Windows among the Linuxes, so it's really easy to get dissatisfied Windows users who aren't willing to expend a lot of effort migrating. And it's natural for new users of any OS to wax poetic about it's good points - after all that's why they moved over - so I have to remember that right now there's going to be a lot of Ubuntu new users waxing poetic about how great Ubuntu is. But it is trying to have to read the same thing over and over on the public mailing lists and message boards. As I said, don't apologize for using an OS that matches your needs better than FreeBSD. Just don't assume that everyone's needs are the same as yours, and we would all be spending less time tinkering with Ubuntu, or even FreeBSD for that matter. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 15:51:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC67F16A421 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9391013C45A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l85FotGo056470; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:50:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Predrag Punosevac" , Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:51:19 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <46DE83D0.5060709@math.arizona.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: Subject: RE: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:51:07 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Predrag > Punosevac > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:24 AM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > > On 05.09.2007 11:22, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > [...] > > > >> Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by > >> your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion > >> to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian > propagandists > >> warped the metaphor beyond the breaking point in your history and > >> perhaps now, there is a horror of them there that will take > >> generations to > >> dissipate. > >> > > > > > I thought were discussing the configuration of the mail server not your > hatred toward us Serbs, Iraqis and God knows whom else. Amazing you find hatred where none exists. Perhaps your only reflecting your own biases? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 15:51:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FDE16A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:51:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D481313C46B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l85FotGm056470; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:50:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Eray Aslan" , Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:51:18 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <46DE7148.7090602@caf.com.tr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: Subject: RE: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:51:45 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Eray Aslan > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:05 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions >=20 > Good advice. I am sure you could have written your response without > mentioning nuclear weapons, Iraq et al. >=20 Sure - and I'm sure you could write an instruction manual that nobody would want to read, either, unless as a sleep aid. Metaphors are a legitimate literary device. If your unfamiliar with them I would suggest you review what is known as "classic literature" Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:00:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB9916A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF6113C46B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD451CCA6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:59:49 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:59:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <7586562.1189005399171.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> In-Reply-To: <7586562.1189005399171.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051759.47530.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: errors after running make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:00:08 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 17:16:39 Terrence Wilson wrote: > I'm trying to install ndiswrapper from a .tar.gz file. I'm running make > for the first time, so I am unfamiliar with it. But I have read > instructions for installing ndiswrapper. I keep getting errors, but I'm > not sure what I'm doing wrong. > > Here's what I did. I copied the ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz file from cdrom > to /usr/src directory. Then: > > # cd /usr/src > # tar -xvf ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz > # cd ndiswrapper-1.47 > # make You're probably trying to use debian's version. However: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2005-March/005947.html -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:01:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917D616A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from smtpclu-5.eunet.yu (smtpclu-5.eunet.yu [194.247.192.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B237013C467 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-223-251.eunet.yu [213.198.223.251]) by smtpclu-5.eunet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l85G0d56006186; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:00:39 +0200 Message-Id: <200709051600.l85G0d56006186@smtpclu-5.eunet.yu> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:01:05 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: "Zbigniew Szalbot" In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0709050844v112e3478l5e30af2fef4aebbb@mail.gmail.com> References: <200709050640.l856eQ7f026093@eunet.yu> <200709051519.l85FJPIx006295@eunet.yu> <94136a2c0709050844v112e3478l5e30af2fef4aebbb@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_50,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: 0.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:01:06 -0000 On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:44:15 +0200 "Zbigniew Szalbot" wrote: > Hi, >=20 > 2007/9/5, Nikola Lecic : > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:22:12 -0700 > > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > > > > Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by > > > your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your > > > adversion to the use of metaphors in language - God know the > > > Serbian propagandists warped the metaphor beyond the breaking > > > point in your history and perhaps now, there is a horror of them > > > there that will take generations to dissipate. > > > > Congratulations. > > > > This is an international project and not your parochial meeting > > where you can discuss the knowledge gleaned from TV end enjoy such > > fascinating vocabulary and deductions related to someone's TLD. >=20 > I wonder if all thread participants can relax a bit? I have always > been impressed how friendly this list is. Have been watching this > thread and cannot understand how it came that such a flame war broke > out. [...] > Please cool down and stop sending rubbish to everyone's inbox. Zbigniew, please don't teach me lessons in politeness. Ted posted two very offensive mails and everyone has a right to publicly reply to publicly posted offence. If that's problem for you, then ignore this thread. Be careful when using word "rubbish". Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:01:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B023116A421 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4670E13C45D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l85G0vNU056542; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:00:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jim Stapleton" Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:01:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709050354q4d186df4y6958e2f81d5dfc66@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: Nikola Lecic , "Russell E. Meek" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:01:50 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Stapleton [mailto:stapleton.41@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:55 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Nikola Lecic; Russell E. Meek; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > > Jim posted here asking for help, using words and language that > > gives serious doubt that he is competent to run a mailserver > > of any kind. > > Knowledgeable and competant are two different things. If I were not > competant, I would not bother attempting to get that knowledge that I > lack. > Of course. The fact you posted at all indicates your aware that competence is learned and that you want to become competent. A far more admirable attitude than the people that assume that everyone is completely competent at everything and calling someone incompetent is the same as calling them a baby-killer. > I don't know the nitty gritty details about exactly what and how mail > servers are encrypted. > I don't know all the nitty gritty details about how everything talks > and intercommunicates. > I do know that that any time a password goes over the internet (not > just LAN) it needs to be encrypted as securly as possible. Only if there is a possiblity that the communication channel can be tapped. The phrase "going over the Internet" is so broad as to be completely meaningless. You can mean just about everything from completely unencrypted wireless to an untappable OC3 between providers. Most password cracking takes place on the client - all the encryption in the world won't protect you from clueless users who click on URLs in e-mails they get. > I do know that mail (and other) servers should live in jails. They can if you want. However I have never done so and never had a mailserver rooted. Of course, I have kept stuff reasonably up to date - that is the other part of the issue. In any case running in a jail does not really address the biggest problems with mailservers - their hijacking by spammers and other criminals. By definition a mailserver transfers mail. Putting it's programs in a jail does not make it cease to transfer mail. If such mail transfer happens between the people you want it to happen between, then great. But if you misconfigure the stuff you have jailed, the mailserver will happily transfer mail between the people you don't want it transferring mail from and everyone else. > I do know not to run an open relay (take email from any server to > deliver to any server, without authentication, and plan to achieve > this by only allowing incoming mail). I would submit you think you do. For example, are you planning on putting a webmail interface on the server? A lot of people do. Well if you do and you put a scrap of CGI on there that has a hole in it a spammer can come along and cause that to relay mail from incoming http right into your mail queue. He doesen't need root access to do this. > I do know that there is no such thing as too much paranoia when > setting up a server. Then you know 90% of what you need to know. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:03:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1599916A421 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FB913C46E for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id 6CE6C16B69F; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:37:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.83]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A1C3916B529; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:37:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:37:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Terrence Wilson In-Reply-To: <7586562.1189005399171.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> Message-ID: <20070905103345.J13656@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <7586562.1189005399171.JavaMail.tjw43@drexel.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.8 required=10.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,OACYS_SINGLE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,TW_XV version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: errors after running make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:03:56 -0000 On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Terrence Wilson wrote: > I'm trying to install ndiswrapper from a .tar.gz file. I'm running make > for the first time, so I am unfamiliar with it. But I have read > instructions for installing ndiswrapper. I keep getting errors, but I'm > not sure what I'm doing wrong. > > Here's what I did. I copied the ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz file from cdrom > to /usr/src directory. Then: > > # cd /usr/src > # tar -xvf ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz > # cd ndiswrapper-1.47 > # make > > After running the make command, I get an error message which goes line > by line like this: > > ... > "Makefile", line 57: Need an operator > "Makefile", line 60: Need an operator > "Makefile", line 67: Need an operator > ... > "Makefile", line 109: Missing dependency operatpr > "Makefile", line 111: Need an operator > "Makefile", line 112: Missing dependency operator > ... > Error expanding embedded variable. > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.47. > > After this, the root command prompt returns. Am I working with a > makefile that needs editing or has errors; or what else I am doing > wrong? I do not know anything about this application, but you are almost certainly using the wrong flavor of make. Odds are good you want gmake, especially if this it GNUish application, but there are also other flavors. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:08:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A82B16A494 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7084013C4EB for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1374432rvb for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:07:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FNgF+rZHEJwJFUPg3KEdVfJdiBfqg/0rAp3sNVtzLAYXznbYjPf5ch0Pf+K6gZMX64OVrUniFCDfnQz2SncMvHKNJs1GakjiL/dOFuXNWjSdzwvK2BUuw9tT9JGBo+2O11XNz2B5rFSrXfMX4fIR6BmOgks3cWE6ZMJSj0QACY8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EzjRolHkIYCLdL8H10qr9tdGLPU60i7WFW2VRTZPkjtshnRKJhwThj+j76xfKRiuH41Dp3FafYyMmFBQyd7srqhURFpmKSGS19yZJRdo7q/MHmw2YSlXgju2JT9GzRXOaloiiME9gEwa/OBtEl2N1LWKnke6q2LiHRU3r+vjPF4= Received: by 10.141.203.12 with SMTP id f12mr2883975rvq.1189008455396; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.79.9 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94136a2c0709050907q38a2bd4elb2ca7f531f83d792@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:07:35 +0200 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200709051600.l85G0d56006186@smtpclu-5.eunet.yu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200709050640.l856eQ7f026093@eunet.yu> <200709051519.l85FJPIx006295@eunet.yu> <94136a2c0709050844v112e3478l5e30af2fef4aebbb@mail.gmail.com> <200709051600.l85G0d56006186@smtpclu-5.eunet.yu> Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:08:00 -0000 Hello, > Zbigniew, please don't teach me lessons in politeness. Ted posted two > very offensive mails and everyone has a right to publicly reply to > publicly posted offence. If that's problem for you, then ignore this > thread. Be careful when using word "rubbish". My apologies. I shoudn't have used the word rubbish. But please take into account that: 1. I am interested in the subject of mail server setup so I generally follow such threads 2. For the whole day I have been opening emails where you exchange opinions that have nothing to do with mail server setup. 3. I have no intention of teaching anyone lessons in politness. If this has been your impression, I need to apologize again. Regards, Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:09:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27ED16A468 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E5313C467 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l85G8moH091423; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:08:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3A225B862; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:08:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:08:48 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: luizbcampos@gmail.com Message-ID: <20070905160848.GA20668@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: luizbcampos@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable CDs on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:09:23 -0000 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 08:50:21PM -0300, luizbcampos@gmail.com wrote: > Dear Sirs >=20 >=20 > Burning CDs is becoming a coastier task to me on FBSD-6.1-R amd64. > I've lost five of them...and the question is how to make bootable CDs by > using cdrecord? I've already read "man cdrecord" but the question is not > clearer. Better not use 6.1. 6.2 has been out for some time now. The following works for me; 1) Make sure that the CD/DVD rewriter is controlled as a SCSI device instead of an ATAPI device. Build a kernel with the following devices: # ATA and ATAPI devices # Do _not_ include the atapicd driver! device ata device atadisk # ATA disk srives device ataraid # RAID drives # The atapicam device is not included in the GENERIC amd64 kernel! device atapicam # Emulate ATAPI devices as SCSI via CAM options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device cd # Compact Disc device da # Direct Access (disks) device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) 2) Set the device permissions correctly # Give members of group cdrom access to the CD/DVD-ROM and DVD+RW via the # SCSI interface own xpt0 root:cdrom perm xpt0 0660 own cd0 root:cdrom perm cd0 0660 own cd1 root:cdrom perm cd1 0660 link cd1 cdrom link cd1 dvd My user-id is part of the cdrom group. 3) Use 'cdrecord -scanbus' to determine which device to use; Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a11 (amd64-unknown-freebsd6.2) Copyright (C) 1= 995-2006 J=F6rg Schilling Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVD-ROM GDR8163B' '0L23' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) 'PLEXTOR ' 'DVDR PX-716A ' '1.08' Removable CD-ROM So I'm using 1,1,0. 4) Burn the image; cdrecord -v -eject -dao speed=3D32 driveropts=3Dburnfree dev=3D1,1,0 -pad \ -data 6.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso=20 HTH, Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG3tSQEnfvsMMhpyURArVaAJ4jrADcxIhr/9mPpag+0Qe25Q0F5wCgno3f bpZNKiN3VUqwdSa63hVcoP8= =Ztjr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:10:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F5416A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCF713C457 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id B21F81425B7; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:03:50 +0300 (EEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFE514261C for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:03:47 +0300 (EEST) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:02:11 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051902.11389.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Subject: installing on gjournal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:10:47 -0000 Hello, I just said to ask for thoughts the community about the above subject, after having waisted two hours trying to install 7-CURRENT... Do you know a relatively easy way to install a new system with gjournal? What I am seeing is: GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal $JournalID: ad0s2a contains data. GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal $JournalID: ad0s2d contains journal. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a.journal Then I get to the famous mountroot kernel prompt... /dev/ad0s2a is also not accessible anymore, which makes perfect sence, since gjournal has locked it. I also did tunefs -J enable /dev/ad0s2a.journal. What I never did is adding -J to newfs opts during installation(sysinstall). Where am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:12:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414CA16A46D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C773F13C4A3 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:12:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l85GC8h1052750; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:12:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B98E8B862; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:12:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:12:07 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Pollywog Message-ID: <20070905161207.GB20668@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Pollywog , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200709050147.47555.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200709050147.47555.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loopback won't enable automatically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:12:25 -0000 --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 01:47:47AM +0000, Pollywog wrote: > I have to manually set the loopback interface after each reboot on one ma= chine=20 > (it is a laptop): >=20 > ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 >=20 > Then everything is fine. >=20 > I added ifconfig_lo0=3D"127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" to /etc/rc.conf > but for unknown reasons it now looks like this and I still need to set lo= 0=20 > manually after reboots: Have you tried setting network_interfaces? Here's the relevant part of my rc.conf: # Network settings network_interfaces=3D"lo0 rl0 rl1" ifconfig_lo0=3D"inet 127.0.0.1" ifconfig_rl0=3D"inet 10.0.0.150/24 polling" ifconfig_rl1=3D"inet 192.168.0.1/24 polling" HTH, Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFG3tVXEnfvsMMhpyURAjdvAJ9YERYzGCTEPDEFSf0iwBSQ7jfASwCeOI5E 6LtzcR9nzX81byHJ6RR4UjU= =uY7y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:25:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD10916A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from njt@ayvali.org) Received: from starfish.geekisp.com (mail.geekisp.com [216.168.135.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636C113C467 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from njt@ayvali.org) Received: (qmail 11448 invoked by uid 1003); 5 Sep 2007 15:58:05 -0000 Received: from clam.int.geekisp.com (HELO clam.geekisp.com) (192.168.4.38) by mail.geekisp.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 15:58:05 -0000 Received: from clam.geekisp.com (njt@localhost.geekisp.com [127.0.0.1]) by clam.geekisp.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l85Fw4EI012021; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from njt@localhost) by clam.geekisp.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) id l85Fw4F2021856; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:58:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: clam.geekisp.com: njt set sender to njt@ayvali.org using -f Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:58:04 -0400 From: "N.J. Thomas" To: Jim Stapleton Message-ID: <20070905155804.GE25281@ayvali.org> References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:25:44 -0000 * Jim Stapleton [2007-09-04 18:03:20 -0400]: > I need a mail server to take incoming mail, and provide a pop3 (or > better yet, SSLed POP3) connection. I would second the recommendation for Postfix -- and Dovecot for POP. > Could you all suggest to me what you use and a good web site for > configuring it as it would be done in FreeBSD? The Postfix documentation is very thorough and complete, and that is all you should need. Their website has some links to various HOWTOs: http://www.postfix.org/docs.html Thomas -- N.J. Thomas njt@ayvali.org Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:34:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC8F16A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB76C13C480 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l85GSpAa031605; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:28:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l85GSpUa031604; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:28:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:28:51 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20070905162851.GA31583@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <46DE7148.7090602@caf.com.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Eray Aslan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:34:23 -0000 On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 08:51:18AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Eray Aslan > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:05 AM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > > > Good advice. I am sure you could have written your response without > > mentioning nuclear weapons, Iraq et al. > > > > Sure - and I'm sure you could write an instruction manual that > nobody would want to read, either, unless as a sleep aid. > > Metaphors are a legitimate literary device. If your unfamiliar with > them I would suggest you review what is known as "classic literature" Come on folks. You'll never get anywhere in a flame war with Ted. He changes the ground under you any time it is convenient. Much better to teach him to spell "you're", distinguish between "your" and "you're" and use them correctly. Now that would be helpful. ////jerry > > Ted > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:39:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CF216A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221D713C458 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so69464ugf for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.157.19 with SMTP id f19mr5328810hue.1189006671462; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? ( [217.196.247.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm5452861hue.2007.09.05.08.37.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:37:51 +0100 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: temporary su login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:39:05 -0000 My collocation supplier is about to move our FreeBSD box and wants some way to shut it down cleanly. Is there a simple way to allow a non-root user to have shutdown rights without just giving them the world. At present I don't even allow login via ssh on that box ie it's purely key based. -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:42:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E5316A421 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@techally.com) Received: from arrakis.techally.com (arrakis.techally.com [208.185.33.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6266813C465 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@techally.com) Received: (qmail 67715 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2007 12:42:09 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.1.0.48?) (204.107.76.229) by arrakis.techally.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 12:42:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> References: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <14CB0202-49FA-404A-83F5-C7A86A3F960A@techally.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mikel King Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:40:36 -0400 To: Robin Becker X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: temporary su login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:42:36 -0000 On Sep 5, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Robin Becker wrote: > My collocation supplier is about to move our FreeBSD box and wants > some way to shut it down cleanly. Is there a simple way to allow a > non-root user to have shutdown rights without just giving them the > world. At present I don't even allow login via ssh on that box ie > it's purely key based. > -- > Robin Becker look @ sudo in the ports From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:46:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBEA16A46D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F1C13C465 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=55214) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISy18-000832-AS; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:46:15 +0800 Message-ID: <46DEDE4D.5080104@adempiere.org> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:20:21 +0330 From: "Bahman M." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robin Becker References: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: temporary su login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:46:33 -0000 Robin Becker wrote: > My collocation supplier is about to move our FreeBSD box and wants some > way to shut it down cleanly. Is there a simple way to allow a non-root > user to have shutdown rights without just giving them the world. At > present I don't even allow login via ssh on that box ie it's purely key > based. I'm wondering how would you want to change a system to which you don't have access? Or did I misunderstood something? Bahman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:46:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61FE16A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B5F13C457 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k4so1745466nfd for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:46:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cE0401fkscbn7SgHtdUwosA7h91Kg7BolGejJFXksp0XWpmBORxolKomZbuxGl0+QCJpVJbIarZaXFCKYMFS7uirPmoY0G8KmKemkwWKLR42de6XISEabeMhZ08PPhMs4riuKcaaukQedD6graF915Y0545BU+Z/LZkcreIB0fA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oZ/QiNC4IDD2ZUXdAeLwCjh9zYip7X4s0BbQ/qTv2URw9GI8EvZ64nZiKJNtKsubDJTaEiRsuheDLULGUq7Kc4G+6219wUTmuUkDBvquDJSbkvFEkETE7R5FaG9O34vzLbEVFq+WItfn/Kz5us0DcPJMleOBq48WDWDV68Aws5k= Received: by 10.86.4.2 with SMTP id 2mr5299728fgd.1189010796380; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.0.107.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d13sm10714325fka.2007.09.05.09.46.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:46:39 +0200 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ports collection background-fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:46:59 -0000 Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the background while other parts are being compiled? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 16:51:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EBC16A468 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30812.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30812.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3793913C467 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 1363 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2007 16:50:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=tsu1HV8R4AIi8Wio/iRzVwmLVxjPp7VeKs3nyoiHz7pwsZ40dSo9wXPBFh1x3HWRabQ3C6oOTGAQjHTIuMD+62z4CGFT+RBbvYnM9zF8X9YVf9/Wm0kK0YRHrpYrKJfsR4dyTyMrVVpUas3MFTfoEJb6WvHMIxWkdkCONvIi1SM=; X-YMail-OSG: 7RdwHxEVM1nUja3S2UbzY7_jAiw3MDk7lyKXRFAy_e7Rg_ttVpRJO9brG5D1Wtprqz.yCXd4eUBZYrqQVbvPfbvqAnvEINFP1L0ZO5iNu4yqWxOruhGzsXPeIIB4Kw-- Received: from [209.191.106.127] by web30812.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 09:50:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/651.50 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:50:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielisz Laszlo To: Robin Becker , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <423565.580.qm@web30812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: temporary su login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danielisz Laszlo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:51:07 -0000 After installing sudo read sudoers.sample (/usr/local/etc/sudoers.sample)= =0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Robin Becker =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Wednesday, September 5, 2007 = 6:37:51 PM=0ASubject: temporary su login=0A=0AMy collocation supplier is ab= out to move our FreeBSD box and wants some way to =0Ashut it down cleanly. = Is there a simple way to allow a non-root user to have =0Ashutdown rights w= ithout just giving them the world. At present I don't even =0Aallow login v= ia ssh on that box ie it's purely key based.=0A-- =0ARobin Becker=0A_______= ________________________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org ma= iling list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A= To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= "=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________________= ____________________________________________=0ABe a better Globetrotter. Ge= t better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it o= ut.=0Ahttp://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=3Dlist&sid=3D396545469 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 17:00:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03B216A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C8413C46B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l85H0VJt013181; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:00:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l85H0VRg013178; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:00:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:00:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Robin Becker In-Reply-To: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Message-ID: <20070905190010.I13161@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: temporary su login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:00:40 -0000 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root operator 15728 30 pa# 2006 /sbin/shutdown chmod 4710 /sbin/shutdown and add user to operator group On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Robin Becker wrote: > My collocation supplier is about to move our FreeBSD box and wants some way > to shut it down cleanly. Is there a simple way to allow a non-root user to > have shutdown rights without just giving them the world. At present I don't > even allow login via ssh on that box ie it's purely key based. > -- > Robin Becker > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 17:03:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1387D16A468 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB8313C480 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1930C1CCA6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:03:00 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:02:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <46DEDE4D.5080104@adempiere.org> In-Reply-To: <46DEDE4D.5080104@adempiere.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051902.58903.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: temporary su login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:03:17 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 18:50:21 Bahman M. wrote: > Robin Becker wrote: > >At present I don't even allow login via ssh on that box ie it's purely key > > based. > > I'm wondering how would you want to change a system to which you don't > have access? Or did I misunderstood something? He's using ssh pub/private keys - not hashed system passwords, so no passwords (even if hashed form) travels the network. And yes, sudo is the way to go. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 17:05:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A910C16A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C2D13C48D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=50175) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISyJh-0003Wg-3h; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:05:26 +0800 Message-ID: <46DEE2B2.4080602@adempiere.org> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:39:06 +0330 From: "Bahman M." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: deeptech71@gmail.com References: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports collection background-fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:05:49 -0000 deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the > background while other parts are being compiled? > Just login on multiple consoles or use multiple x terminals (if running X) and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to compile. The port(s) will be fetched and compiled simultaneously. Then all you need to do is to run 'make install' for each port. Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more than one 'make install' at a time. Bahman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 17:06:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E4916A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:06:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3F213C483 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290DD1CCA6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:05:43 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:05:42 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051905.42215.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: ports collection background-fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:06:03 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 18:46:39 deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the background > while other parts are being compiled? Not automatically, but if you know which ports need to be done next, nothing stops you from doing: cd /usr/ports/category/port && make fetch on a different terminal. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 17:06:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A578C16A41A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcc@fid4.com) Received: from mail102.csoft.net (mail102.csoft.net [205.205.219.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEBF13C483 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcc@fid4.com) Received: from [172.28.30.208] (westford-nat.juniper.net [66.129.232.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail102.csoft.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDBD1D0AF for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <46DECE7F.3000909@fid4.com> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:42:55 -0400 From: "Michael C. Cambria" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: /usr/ports & portupgrade when only using packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:06:51 -0000 I need to set up a system that can only use packages. I've always used ports, so I'm not exactly sure if I'm doing things properly. Should I (do I need to) use portsnap to populate /usr/ports? Unless I really need something that doesn't have a pkg available, I will not be using ports. I've always used portupgrade, and plan to do so, using -PP (only packages) for this setup. My first question is should I? Doing'pkg_add -r portupgrade' and it installed fine. Using pkgdb -F however, resulted in these messages: bsd# pkgdb -F cd: can't cd to /usr/ports cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade cd: can't cd to /usr/ports ----> Chcecking the package registry database Any help appreciated. Thanks, MikeC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 17:08:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87AF16A41A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:08:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D5B13C4DD for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=54645) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ISyM4-0003l4-Ug; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:07:53 +0800 Message-ID: <46DEE36A.4010802@adempiere.org> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:42:10 +0330 From: "Bahman M." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel References: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <46DEDE4D.5080104@adempiere.org> <200709051902.58903.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200709051902.58903.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: temporary su login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:08:26 -0000 Mel wrote: > On Wednesday 05 September 2007 18:50:21 Bahman M. wrote: >> Robin Becker wrote: >>> At present I don't even allow login via ssh on that box ie it's purely key >>> based. >> I'm wondering how would you want to change a system to which you don't >> have access? Or did I misunderstood something? > > He's using ssh pub/private keys - not hashed system passwords, so no passwords > (even if hashed form) travels the network. You're right! I don't know why but I thought by "key based" he meant keyboard based, i.e. no net access! Should have read the question more carefully. Bahman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 17:08:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818FE16A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4F813C512 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l85H7ab2013273; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:07:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l85H7agP013270; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:07:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:07:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Bahman M." In-Reply-To: <46DEE2B2.4080602@adempiere.org> Message-ID: <20070905190715.L13263@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> <46DEE2B2.4080602@adempiere.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports collection background-fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:08:55 -0000 > and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to compile. The port(s) > will be fetched and compiled simultaneously. Then all you need to do is to > run 'make install' for each port. > > Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more than i do many but only one at normal priority, and other with nice -n 20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 17:10:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D7D16A46B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@Riderway.com) Received: from exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F18A13C442 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@Riderway.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.730.1; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:09:45 -0700 Message-ID: <46DEE2D8.7090409@riderway.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:09:44 -0400 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Rideray Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070703) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bahman M." References: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> <46DEE2B2.4080602@adempiere.org> In-Reply-To: <46DEE2B2.4080602@adempiere.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: ports collection background-fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:10:07 -0000 Bahman M. wrote: > deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: >> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the >> background while other parts are being compiled? > > > Just login on multiple consoles or use multiple x terminals (if running > X) and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to compile. The > port(s) will be fetched and compiled simultaneously. Then all you need > to do is to run 'make install' for each port. > > Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more > than one 'make install' at a time. This is fine unless 2 ports depend on the same one -- i.e the glib related ones esp. The makes will "rm -f the .o" files and confuse one another. If this happens no biggie, just rerun the make for that port in one window. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@riderway.com) 323.219.4708 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:12:56 -0000 > That is my job. The ONLY way to get someone to re-examine their assumptions is to piss them off. What a breathtakingly arrogant ponce! Perhaps THIS will piss YOU off enough to get you to reexamine YOUR assumption. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 17:43:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D3216A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A8913C468 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB1F7F71 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by slider.shadypond.com (postoffice) with ESMTP id BEEAFB67AC for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:43:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:43:23 +0000 References: <200709050147.47555.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <20070905161207.GB20668@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20070905161207.GB20668@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709051743.24064.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: loopback won't enable automatically X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:43:40 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 16:12:07 Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 01:47:47AM +0000, Pollywog wrote: > > I have to manually set the loopback interface after each reboot on one > > machine (it is a laptop): > > > > ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 > > > > Then everything is fine. > > > > I added ifconfig_lo0="127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" to /etc/rc.conf > > but for unknown reasons it now looks like this and I still need to set > > lo0 manually after reboots: > > Have you tried setting network_interfaces? Here's the relevant part of > my rc.conf: > > # Network settings > network_interfaces="lo0 rl0 rl1" > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.150/24 polling" > ifconfig_rl1="inet 192.168.0.1/24 polling" Yes, that is how I fixed the problem, but I don't know why the problem occurred in the first place, since in /etc/default/rc.conf I have: network_interfaces="auto" Setting network_interfaces="lo0 vr0" in /etc/rc.conf fixed the problem thanks > > HTH, > Roland From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 18:08:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FA416A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB1A13C469 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:08:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1969474wxd for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:08:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ir+FWnU2jn6e/UCAKWSu/YQyQmHtWKeowbQfe/aSFf9a8npxOZgNBOGG3KyB9VOm2JuKtdqfFadTU1/7rgHbNl3SHB70JhtV/OOtDXGuyXU07OtPPX00ZxpJy0hLbqKJIb/XeldQzq/ojjBgJPRcFOBTx1AUTuuD1trKrMM9zuU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fyq1RdCCbu9H6RfxW5FHcI9rqnyQPOdCI9IEMZgZg+e5krZLQMIlhsU1qXXlYpnw3/tcHfSGrj+cPjkwFTN//TAXBQVe4oOW3eQKYcrqINYUuxM6TnFXexYSaramT+us3r0k0WwSdG2DwG093l10QhZnkORLPD8YyWgFkpVm4D0= Received: by 10.90.113.18 with SMTP id l18mr7462294agc.1189015692232; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.14? ( [74.95.66.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f55sm9272767pyh.2007.09.05.11.08.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:08:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> References: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <69951ED3-5B8F-4D00-8920-BFF278C68DE6@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Crist Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:08:08 -0500 To: Robin Becker X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: temporary su login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:08:35 -0000 On Sep 5, 2007, at 10:37 AMSep 5, 2007, Robin Becker wrote: > My collocation supplier is about to move our FreeBSD box and wants > some way to shut it down cleanly. Is there a simple way to allow a > non-root user to have shutdown rights without just giving them the > world. At present I don't even allow login via ssh on that box ie > it's purely key based. > I'm sure nobody will mention this, so I will. On most systems with support ACPI, your colo provider can simply press the power button on the front of your server. FreeBSD's kernel will pick up the signal and shut down cleanly. Once you're moved, they can press the same button to power the system on. There is *NO* need to give them login access to the box. Also, they could simply call you to have you shut it down. ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 18:12:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4078716A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from smtpclu-2.EUnet.yu (smtpclu-2.eunet.yu [194.247.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C3B13C474 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-223-251.eunet.yu [213.198.223.251]) by smtpclu-2.EUnet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l85IC8I1024908; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:12:09 +0200 Message-Id: <200709051812.l85IC8I1024908@smtpclu-2.EUnet.yu> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:12:36 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20070905162851.GA31583@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <46DE7148.7090602@caf.com.tr> <20070905162851.GA31583@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_50,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: 0.0 Cc: Eray Aslan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:12:41 -0000 On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:28:51 -0400 Jerry McAllister wrote: > Come on folks. You'll never get anywhere in a flame war with Ted. > He changes the ground under you any time it is convenient. Jerry, I appreciate your good will, but he doesn't "change ground". And this is not a "flame war" but a reaction to the rude and arrogant posts. His (obviously well-known) character cannot be an excuse to speak whatever he wishes. I'm very disappointed that more official people on this list didn't say something like "Ted, please respect our users from all countries, including those two countries you have mentioned" (as they did couple of times in the near past). Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 18:23:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03A616A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from smtpclu-7.EUnet.yu (smtpclu-7.eunet.yu [194.247.192.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6794A13C474 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-223-251.eunet.yu [213.198.223.251]) by smtpclu-7.EUnet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l85H4n4p022594; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:04:51 +0200 Message-Id: <200709051704.l85H4n4p022594@smtpclu-7.EUnet.yu> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:23:24 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: "Bahman M." In-Reply-To: <46DEE2B2.4080602@adempiere.org> References: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> <46DEE2B2.4080602@adempiere.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_20,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: -0.7 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports collection background-fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:23:37 -0000 On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:39:06 +0330 "Bahman M." wrote: [...] > Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more=20 > than one 'make install' at a time. [...] This is not good practice at all, since both (all) chains of make jobs deal with the same /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db (and other files), so you can damage the database or at least you will get a complaint from one of (de)installs. Please read this: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/#p-ports-parallel Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 18:26:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E7716A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatman@crackmonkey.us) Received: from crackmonkey.us (crackmonkey.us [70.58.166.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E562513C491 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatman@crackmonkey.us) Received: from tarani-bosatsu.dreamtrack.dnsalias.com (cpc1-swin7-0-0-cust216.brhm.cable.ntl.com [::ffff:86.18.88.217]) (AUTH: PLAIN fatman, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by crackmonkey.us with esmtp; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:25:40 -0600 id 00194380.46DEF4AA.000056E6 Message-ID: <46DEF400.1080806@crackmonkey.us> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:22:56 +0100 From: Adam J Richardson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070830) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <200709012330.41331.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200709012330.41331.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a quick jails question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:26:09 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > will a NFS server run in a jail? > > im guessing no, that it falls into the "funny services" category (like snmp) > that wont run right in a jail. > > thanks, Hi Jonathan. Forgive my curiosity, but why would you run NFS in a jail? 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( [84.0.107.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 13sm10812090fks.2007.09.05.11.09.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46DEF0EA.2040006@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:09:46 +0200 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> <200709051905.42215.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200709051905.42215.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ports collection background-fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:38:16 -0000 Bahman M. wrote: > deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: >> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the >> background while other parts are being compiled? > > > Just login on multiple consoles or use multiple x terminals (if running > X) and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to compile. The > port(s) will be fetched and compiled simultaneously. Then all you need > to do is to run 'make install' for each port. > > Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more > than one 'make install' at a time. > > Bahman > Mel wrote: > On Wednesday 05 September 2007 18:46:39 deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: >> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the background >> while other parts are being compiled? > > Not automatically, but if you know which ports need to be done next, nothing > stops you from doing: > cd /usr/ports/category/port && make fetch > on a different terminal. > OK... Downloading should never interference with compiling (other than faster consumption of disk space :) ), so this is an improvement that can/should be made. Send the recommendation to the commiters? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 18:39:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1200D16A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF21D13C465 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:39:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (pollux.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.61]) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l85IdMI4041528 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:39:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l85IdMq1041527 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:39:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.dfwlp.com: www set sender to freebsd@dfwlp.com using -f Received: from 192.168.125.134 ([192.168.125.134]) by webmail.dfwlp.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:39:21 -0500 Message-ID: <20070905133921.cz1wwk2e8gkcc80g@webmail.dfwlp.org> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:39:21 -0500 From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200709012330.41331.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <46DEF400.1080806@crackmonkey.us> In-Reply-To: <46DEF400.1080806@crackmonkey.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) / FreeBSD-6.2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE autolearn=no version=3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: a quick jails question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:39:34 -0000 Quoting Adam J Richardson : > Jonathan Horne wrote: >> will a NFS server run in a jail? >> >> im guessing no, that it falls into the "funny services" category =20 >> (like snmp) that wont run right in a jail. >> >> thanks, > > Hi Jonathan. > > Forgive my curiosity, but why would you run NFS in a jail? > > Regards, > Adam J Richardson > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" well, right now i have one physical server, running 4 jails (my web, =20 mail, and 2 dns). my file server, is actually my desktop. i would =20 like to transfer this data to my server (so that the data lives on the =20 RAID), and just do a new jail that i serve my files from (also, =20 transferring build duties over to this physical server, via the =20 file-server jail). i still need to test if it still works the same (im guessing yes, but =20 i really dont know until i try it) to build my world and kernels that =20 i need from a jailed host, but i have a long way to go on that =20 project. also need to make sure samba still works as expected, and a =20 couple other things. all, so i dont have to make sure my desktop is onlie if i need to =20 access some files :). cheers, (and first list-post, from my new horde install! woot!) --=20 Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 18:46:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE31216A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcc@fid4.com) Received: from mail102.csoft.net (mail102.csoft.net [205.205.219.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872B813C48D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcc@fid4.com) Received: from [172.28.30.208] (westford-nat.juniper.net [66.129.232.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail102.csoft.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286091CEFF for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <46DEE624.20103@fid4.com> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:23:48 -0400 From: "Michael C. Cambria" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> <46DEE2B2.4080602@adempiere.org> <46DEE2D8.7090409@riderway.com> In-Reply-To: <46DEE2D8.7090409@riderway.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ports collection background-fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:46:48 -0000 Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > Bahman M. wrote: > >> deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the >>> background while other parts are being compiled? >>> >> Wouldn't portupgrade --fetch-only work? Run this first to grab everything, then build. Not exactly what you asked for, but close MikeC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 18:48:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670FD16A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatman@crackmonkey.us) Received: from crackmonkey.us (crackmonkey.us [70.58.166.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4B513C45E for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fatman@crackmonkey.us) Received: from tarani-bosatsu.dreamtrack.dnsalias.com (cpc1-swin7-0-0-cust216.brhm.cable.ntl.com [::ffff:86.18.88.217]) (AUTH: PLAIN fatman, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by crackmonkey.us with esmtp; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:37:41 -0600 id 00194380.46DEF77A.0000575D Message-ID: <46DEF6D0.8010108@crackmonkey.us> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:34:56 +0100 From: Adam J Richardson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070830) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C. Cambria" References: <46DECE7F.3000909@fid4.com> In-Reply-To: <46DECE7F.3000909@fid4.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/ports & portupgrade when only using packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:48:27 -0000 Michael C. Cambria wrote: > I need to set up a system that can only use packages. I've always used > ports, so I'm not exactly sure if I'm doing things properly. > > Should I (do I need to) use portsnap to populate /usr/ports? Unless I > really need something that doesn't have a pkg available, I will not be > using ports. > > I've always used portupgrade, and plan to do so, using -PP (only > packages) for this setup. My first question is should I? > > Doing'pkg_add -r portupgrade' and it installed fine. > Using pkgdb -F however, resulted in these messages: > > bsd# pkgdb -F > cd: can't cd to /usr/ports > cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade > cd: can't cd to /usr/ports > ----> Chcecking the package registry database > > Any help appreciated. Hi Mike. Let me see if I've got this... you want to be able to install packages, but not ports. Well, that's easy... # rm -R /usr/ports Saves you a load of disk space, too. The only downside is you get slightly older versions of software with packages. Oh, and don't use portsnap, it'll undo that "rm -R" for you. Using "portupgrade -PP" works perfectly well on those rare occasions when I want to install a package rather than a port. I guess you could delete all executables matching "port*", but that might be going too far. You could get rid of two of those error messages by doing a: # mkdir /usr/ports Regards, Adam J Richardson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 18:53:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967AC16A421 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627E313C461 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18EA1CCA6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:53:25 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:53:24 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46DECE7F.3000909@fid4.com> In-Reply-To: <46DECE7F.3000909@fid4.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709052053.24538.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: /usr/ports & portupgrade when only using packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:53:42 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 17:42:55 Michael C. Cambria wrote: > I need to set up a system that can only use packages. I've always used > ports, so I'm not exactly sure if I'm doing things properly. > > Should I (do I need to) use portsnap to populate /usr/ports? Unless I > really need something that doesn't have a pkg available, I will not be > using ports. > > I've always used portupgrade, and plan to do so, using -PP (only > packages) for this setup. My first question is should I? It needs the ports tree to know which packages to *upgrade*. I know of no ports management system that is able to use only binary and no ports tree. If you need to save space, consider mounting /usr/ports via nfs. Now, whether you should use portupgrade...I'm not very positive about it and currently writing my own tools to do just that. I found that portupgrade uses a lot of things it shouldn't need to when in -PP mode (most notably running make all-depends-list before installing a new port and unpacking the entire package just to read it's +CONTENTS file for dependencies). With an ever growing ports tree and the recent Xorg split, adding ~200 new packages to the basic install, I find it to become very slow. If you're going to be using packages you build yourself on a build machine, like I'm doing, you're even in for a bigger surprise, because they are built using the 'packages' target. This target creates plist, which then becomes the packages' +CONTENTS file, on many occasions different from what has been installed on your build machine. You could manage with pkg_add/pkg_delete, but then: 1) *You* have to find out which packages are eligible for upgrading 2) Upgrading a package will mean delete the old version before installing the new one 3) *You* will have to backup libraries manually. (Yes, I realize portupgrade does this) -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 18:55:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195DE16A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:55:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D0513C494 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D221CCA6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:55:05 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:55:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46DECE7F.3000909@fid4.com> <46DEF6D0.8010108@crackmonkey.us> In-Reply-To: <46DEF6D0.8010108@crackmonkey.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709052055.04414.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: /usr/ports & portupgrade when only using packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:55:19 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 20:34:56 Adam J Richardson wrote: > Well, that's easy... > > # rm -R /usr/ports > > Saves you a load of disk space, too. The only downside is you get > slightly older versions of software with packages. > > Oh, and don't use portsnap, it'll undo that "rm -R" for you. Using > "portupgrade -PP" works perfectly well on those rare occasions when I > want to install a package rather than a port. I'm really interested in seeing the output of portupgrade -PP after rm -R /usr/ports && mkdir /usr/ports. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 19:02:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E6016A41A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcc@fid4.com) Received: from mail102.csoft.net (mail102.csoft.net [205.205.219.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D550013C491 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcc@fid4.com) Received: from [172.28.30.208] (westford-nat.juniper.net [66.129.232.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail102.csoft.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6FA1D0BF; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <46DEFD53.7080503@fid4.com> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:02:43 -0400 From: "Michael C. Cambria" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <46DECE7F.3000909@fid4.com> <200709052053.24538.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200709052053.24538.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mel Subject: Re: /usr/ports & portupgrade when only using packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:02:57 -0000 Mel wrote: > On Wednesday 05 September 2007 17:42:55 Michael C. Cambria wrote: > >> I need to set up a system that can only use packages. I've always used >> ports, so I'm not exactly sure if I'm doing things properly. >> >> Should I (do I need to) use portsnap to populate /usr/ports? Unless I >> really need something that doesn't have a pkg available, I will not be >> using ports. >> >> I've always used portupgrade, and plan to do so, using -PP (only >> packages) for this setup. My first question is should I? >> > > It needs the ports tree to know which packages to *upgrade*. I know of no > ports management system that is able to use only binary and no ports tree. If > you need to save space, consider mounting /usr/ports via nfs. > > My goal isn't to save space. I don't have the cpu power to build all these (and multiple times) on each machine. Reading the man pages and the handbook about using packages didn't say anything about needing /usr/ports, so before I went and used portsnap etc. I thought I'd ask first. [deleted] > You could manage with pkg_add/pkg_delete, but then: > 1) *You* have to find out which packages are eligible for upgrading > 2) Upgrading a package will mean delete the old version before installing the > new one > 3) *You* will have to backup libraries manually. > > (Yes, I realize portupgrade does this) > Yup, that's the point of my wanting to use portupgrade ;-) It's worked OK for me since it's inception. Thanks, MikeC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 19:05:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA2216A468 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FBA13C461 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so517288anc for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:05:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=srhI1ImaEwkDcuO98YOjUc4qLMUmSqkkxnT1z74/RB8cIq1QVyCN3Yf91HZ5IBwBQW+M+xnP0Mt6BSzcvWX/6P5J576qP3QP9sxQrHd0IUNXekB/cz/oHKu3Qww49gVXv84M/JFpA3GjhKe5mI4uukUiAgZ8wNfTTL74Cn3eQ5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XkiU6LXt+FkSE3GQo6Dh+wI8ow1+7TRZijwuoLXFKy8m/PRZ31dzc4o/O5YccrLqWchu/c6UXezCRaprgwG3y+NLzgTN1L8HrWuR1mbfVJ7k1hK07EsJfWXVvBGLmH9/TTVmfbu8L2gJHVPtaQ9vzAB0I+OggqdiYJV6lK6wgqg= Received: by 10.100.167.7 with SMTP id p7mr6256110ane.1189019120813; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.4? ( [141.149.155.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d38sm6878345and.2007.09.05.12.05.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46DEFDDC.2010700@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:05:00 -0400 From: Matt Donovan User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (X11/20070824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: errors after running make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:05:33 -0000 On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Terrence Wilson wrote: > > I'm trying to install ndiswrapper from a .tar.gz file. I'm running make > > for the first time, so I am unfamiliar with it. But I have read > > instructions for installing ndiswrapper. I keep getting errors, but I'm > > not sure what I'm doing wrong. > > > > Here's what I did. I copied the ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz file from cdrom > > to /usr/src directory. Then: > > > > # cd /usr/src > > # tar -xvf ndiswrapper-1.47.tar.gz > > # cd ndiswrapper-1.47 > > # make > > > > After running the make command, I get an error message which goes line > > by line like this: > > > > ... > > "Makefile", line 57: Need an operator > > "Makefile", line 60: Need an operator > > "Makefile", line 67: Need an operator > > ... > > "Makefile", line 109: Missing dependency operatpr > > "Makefile", line 111: Need an operator > > "Makefile", line 112: Missing dependency operator > > ... > > Error expanding embedded variable. > > *** Error code 2 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.47. > > > > After this, the root command prompt returns. Am I working with a > > makefile that needs editing or has errors; or what else I am doing > > wrong? > As someone else said it's been in base for a while and the ndiswrapper you downloaded only works with the linux kernel since the one in base had to be modified to work ont he freebsd kernel, oh yeah it's not called project evil for nothing :) it might panic your kernel and it might not. Just so you know before it happens From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 19:05:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08A616A4ED for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.hyro@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708E813C45A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.hyro@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k4so1775524nfd for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:05:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bLlpbRdM/BQ1yrLtd7btrv1mxJ3wiqI3eGRhaDGlA+Xmv2RAszhCxxlM6jRQbsOXUd+C8lydgyytw3ekSHy2e/ORPu4l3pOA7R+Oxw7gYj1vGV16tIOkW5xs8ILSoFjAkcfPYflNcZj2VTdT+Nh8Xb5t2Ul/m8J0hQH6/OV7vFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L3wAcID2Vq8uMqiVVeRW1/V7HgPS2YF+Q4jWmvnid2omOZ9uop24gNXcEFJ6EJ66A3p1jQXBtivGrI8vxy7BzjgFUcCY0iDDl4K5J+Ytb4aFdmU5JWgHYePtKJIWe1l10uF3LLL0waPicAm64CrXdrPYN1GVhsQWxFyPyIMULkM= Received: by 10.78.172.20 with SMTP id u20mr5514001hue.1189019125146; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.184.8 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:05:24 -0400 From: "Andrey Shuvikov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070905155804.GE25281@ayvali.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> <20070905155804.GE25281@ayvali.org> Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:05:39 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not suitable for this task? Thanks, Andrey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 19:07:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E091116A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob.middaugh@comcast.net) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.192.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5EA13C481 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob.middaugh@comcast.net) Received: from rmailcenter75.comcast.net ([204.127.197.157]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20070905190647m12003d55oe>; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:06:48 +0000 Received: from [199.20.68.40] by rmailcenter75.comcast.net; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:06:46 +0000 From: bob.middaugh@comcast.net (Bob Middaugh) To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:06:46 +0000 Message-Id: <090520071906.4943.46DEFE460008FCB60000134F220642461308099A0E0B0B0703D20D010D@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: Ym9iLm1pZGRhdWdoQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:07:11 -0000 > > I apologize for that last comment... That was uncalled for. Ted brings out the best in people. > > But I'll be damned if you > > don't parse me > > off sometimes. :) Ted brings out the best in people. > That is my job. The ONLY way to get someone to re-examine their > assumptions is to piss them off. Really? Funny, not one of my college professor's ever pissed me off with rude, arrogant, offensive and generally hasty sweeping statements in an attempt to get me to open my mind and examine my thought process. >It's why politicians get more votes rabble-rousing than telling everyone how great things are. If you say so... > And naturally, those that don't want to re-examine their own > ass-umptions don't like being pissed off, don't like rabble-rousers, > and bitch when they see rabble-rousing. I question my own thoughts and motives all the time, and I don't typically enjoy being pissed off, but I do like to raise hell from time to time. So, by your logic Ted; I'm an enigma? > But, change never happens easy. Yeah, people have been trying to teach you some manners for years Ted, and "YOUR" right; it's never been easy or accomplished as evidenced by your ability to simultaneously piss off various people from various parts of the world on two different threads at once. Good Job. >Your not going to get a Windows > users switched over to Open Source unless you piss him off - force > him to defend his ass-umption that Windows is the greatest > operating system since sliced bread. Doing this is what gets him > to re-examine his assumptions. And that is after all the name > of the game here - to get the people away from the unhealthy MS monopolizing > of the computer business that are salvagable. > > > Anyway... A public apology for a public ass-showing... And I > > don't want to > > leave the board with the impression that I'm an ass (or at least > > a complete one), That's not the impression I was left with. > No problem Mike - and I apologize as well for saying you were whining. You should, that's one of your sweeping hasty generalizations about someone you've never even met. Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 19:12:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A0416A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDA513C4A8 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3D21CCA6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:12:38 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:12:37 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> <200709051905.42215.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <46DEF0EA.2040006@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46DEF0EA.2040006@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709052112.37564.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: ports collection background-fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:12:50 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 20:09:46 deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > Bahman M. wrote: > > deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > >> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the > >> background while other parts are being compiled? > > > > Just login on multiple consoles or use multiple x terminals (if running > > X) and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to compile. The > > port(s) will be fetched and compiled simultaneously. Then all you need > > to do is to run 'make install' for each port. > > > > Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more > > than one 'make install' at a time. > > > > Bahman > > Mel wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 September 2007 18:46:39 deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > >> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the > >> background while other parts are being compiled? > > > > Not automatically, but if you know which ports need to be done next, > > nothing stops you from doing: > > cd /usr/ports/category/port && make fetch > > on a different terminal. > > OK... > > Downloading should never interference with compiling (other than faster > consumption of disk space :) ), so this is an improvement that can/should > be made. Send the recommendation to the commiters? I think the logic of "what ports need to be done next" is hard to work into the basic ports system. You could request the feature from the various ports in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt - software like portupgrade should be able to build a list of ports that need updating and start fetching in background. -- Mel People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 19:15:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6D316A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agreenwood@nuvox.net) Received: from agreenftp.no-ip.com (75-137-118-150.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com [75.137.118.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DA913C45B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agreenwood@nuvox.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agreenftp.no-ip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA19C39864; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:00:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at agreenftp.no-ip.com Received: from agreenftp.no-ip.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zeus.agreenftp.no-ip.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NF7w8Ei5g83s; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.212.3.94] (216.215.144.201.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.144.201]) (Authenticated sender: andy) by agreenftp.no-ip.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0FC2C39869; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46DEFCB1.8030209@nuvox.net> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:00:01 -0400 From: Andy Greenwood User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: deeptech71@gmail.com References: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> <200709051905.42215.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <46DEF0EA.2040006@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46DEF0EA.2040006@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports collection background-fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:15:54 -0000 deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > Bahman M. wrote: > > deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > >> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the > >> background while other parts are being compiled? > > > > > Just login on multiple consoles or use multiple x terminals (if running > > X) and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to compile. The > > port(s) will be fetched and compiled simultaneously. Then all you need > > to do is to run 'make install' for each port. > > > > Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more > > than one 'make install' at a time. > > > > Bahman > > > > Mel wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 September 2007 18:46:39 deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > >> Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the > background > >> while other parts are being compiled? > > > > Not automatically, but if you know which ports need to be done next, > nothing > > stops you from doing: > > cd /usr/ports/category/port && make fetch > > on a different terminal. > > > > OK... If you know the full list of leaf ports you want installed, you could do something like this for each port, which should fetch and allow you to config all your ports. You could run this on a seperate terminal for each port. # cd /usr/ports/category/port && make config-recursive fetch-recursive > Downloading should never interference with compiling (other than > faster consumption of disk space :) ), so this is an improvement that > can/should be made. Send the recommendation to the commiters? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 19:19:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE22B16A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp102.math.arizona.edu (smtp102.math.arizona.edu [128.196.102.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D3813C48D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IT0Oe-0007Rz-Uu for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:18:41 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1IT0Oe-0007Rr-Ml for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:18:40 -0700 Message-ID: <46DF0043.606@math.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:15:15 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090309020108000405030307" X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: [Fwd: Re: mail server setup questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:19:41 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090309020108000405030307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------090309020108000405030307 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: mail server setup questions.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re: mail server setup questions.eml" Message-ID: <46DF0009.1010301@math.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:14:17 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrey Shuvikov Subject: Re: mail server setup questions References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> <20070905155804.GE25281@ayvali.org> <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrey Shuvikov wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was > going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody > named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not > suitable for this task? > > Thanks, > Andrey > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > We have a exim at the University of Arizona and works really well (but I am just a user not a sysadmin). I had the same question since I have use sendmail as my home server but I am really curious what more knowledgeable people have to say on this topic. Regards Predrag P. S. I apologize for my previous mail that was of topic but I was truly offended. --------------090309020108000405030307-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 19:25:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FC716A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp102.math.arizona.edu (smtp102.math.arizona.edu [128.196.102.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1017A13C478 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IT0V8-0007Td-AZ for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:25:23 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1IT0V8-0007TV-3A for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:25:22 -0700 Message-ID: <46DF01D4.7060704@math.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:21:56 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:25:58 -0000 Andrey Shuvikov wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was > going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody > named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not > suitable for this task? > > Thanks, > Andrey > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > We have a exim at the University of Arizona and works really well (but I am just a user not a sysadmin). I had the same question since I have used sendmail as my home mail server but I am really curious what more knowledgeable people have to say on this topic. Regards Predrag P. S. I apologize to everyone for my previous mail on this thread that was of topic but I was truly offended. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 19:32:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E72916A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4780813C481 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDEF51997 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:31:54 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070905203154.56ac6d58@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <46DEE2B2.4080602@adempiere.org> References: <46DEDD6F.9020509@gmail.com> <46DEE2B2.4080602@adempiere.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ports collection background-fetch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:32:13 -0000 On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:39:06 +0330 "Bahman M." wrote: > deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > > Is it possible to do automatic fetching of source files in the > > background while other parts are being compiled? > > > Just login on multiple consoles or use multiple x terminals (if > running X) and on each one run 'make' for the port you want to > compile. The port(s) will be fetched and compiled simultaneously. > Then all you need to do is to run 'make install' for each port. > > Note: I'm not sure but I think it's not a good practice to issue more > than one 'make install' at a time. > There's no need to do that, you just do make checksum or make checksum-recursive, that's what portupgrade -F and portupgrade -RF do. They don't update anything (other than the distfiles) so should be safe. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 19:33:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA60D16A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:33:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BA313C457 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:33:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l85JSShb032249; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:28:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l85JSSFA032248; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:28:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:28:28 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Predrag Punosevac Message-ID: <20070905192828.GA32227@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <46DF01D4.7060704@math.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46DF01D4.7060704@math.arizona.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:33:38 -0000 On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 12:21:56PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Andrey Shuvikov wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was > >going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody > >named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not > >suitable for this task? > > > >Thanks, > >Andrey > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > We have a exim at the University of Arizona and works really well (but I > am just a user not a sysadmin). > I had the same question since I have used sendmail as my home mail > server but I am really curious what more knowledgeable people have to > say on this topic. There is no real problem with sendmail. Maybe there was years ago, but it works fine. Some of the configuration can be rather arcane, but mostly people just get their favorite and want to defend it. ////jerry > Regards > Predrag > > P. S. I apologize to everyone for my previous mail on this thread that > was of topic but I was truly offended. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 19:39:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBCF16A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8434313C45E for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 55218 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2007 19:12:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@70.131.96.103 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 19:12:05 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 3Ot2a6oVM1ny1WE32q8pZdSaqR0JASrPlQF2YdRR1wuZhhkH.SLOEGEpoww2w5wFAp_FdudPnQ-- Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D698B90B; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:12:14 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from mail.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BZsmWixx259q; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:12:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 25125B90D; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:12:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <46DEFF76.4070701@mikestammer.com> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:11:50 -0500 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrey Shuvikov References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> <20070905155804.GE25281@ayvali.org> <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:39:08 -0000 Andrey Shuvikov wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was > going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody > named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not > suitable for this task? > Exim is a capable mailer as is postfix. I think its mostly a matter of preference but I havent delved into Exim too much. Personally I run Postfix and Dovecot for my mail server setup. Roundcube does a nice job in providing a front end on the web for Dovecot. Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 19:56:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3598D16A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F8113C458 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:56:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B8613D19C for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:55:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:55:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 71935 invoked by uid 88); 5 Sep 2007 19:55:16 +0200 Received: from maren.math.ntnu.no (HELO weld.ej2.thelosingend.net) (129.241.211.48) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; ons, 05 sep 2007 19:54:57 +0200 Message-ID: <46DEED0A.7000609@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:53:14 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070523) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=9198BB40; url=mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: Subject: Linuxulator and SSE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:56:36 -0000 Hello, list! I'm trying to get Bibble to run under the Linuxulator on FreeBSD, but it keeps complaining about missing SSE support. Some useful info: $ uname -a FreeBSD weld.ej2.thelosingend.net 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 $ sysctl hw.instruction_sse hw.instruction_sse: 1 Also: hw.machine: i386 hw.model: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1200MHz hw.ncpu: 1 But: $ cat /compat/linux/proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 7 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1200MHz stepping : 5 flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat b19 b21 mmxext mmx fxsr xmm b26 b29 3dnow cpu MHz : 1196.12 bogomips : 1196.12 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 20:09:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217F816A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from smtpclu-3.eunet.yu (smtpclu-3.eunet.yu [194.247.192.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D0813C46B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:09:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-223-251.eunet.yu [213.198.223.251]) by smtpclu-3.eunet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l85K8neO020335; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:08:51 +0200 Message-Id: <200709052008.l85K8neO020335@smtpclu-3.eunet.yu> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:09:18 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200709052053.24538.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <46DECE7F.3000909@fid4.com> <200709052053.24538.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_50,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: 0.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/ports & portupgrade when only using packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:09:12 -0000 Mel, On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:53:24 +0200 Mel wrote: [...] > You could manage with pkg_add/pkg_delete, but then: > 1) *You* have to find out which packages are eligible for upgrading > 2) Upgrading a package will mean delete the old version before > installing the new one Deleting the old version before installing the new one (obviously!) happens always when you upgrade/downgrade/reinstall something, whatever method you choose (compiling through ports or using packages). If you compile through port, a package will be created on your machine after compile, so the result should be the same (unless you have custom options). > 3) *You* will have to backup libraries manually. Unless you use portupgrade or portmaster, you will have to do a lot of manual job, no matter what method you use. This (and similar) warnings are not specific to use of packages. =20 > (Yes, I realize portupgrade does this) The main strength of portupgrade is that it provides a possibility to mix installations through ports and using packages. If you use -P it will combine them giving a chance to a package first. You can tune this behaviour in pkgtools.conf using USE_PKGS and USE_PKGS_ONLY. If you keep an eye on appereance of newly built packages on FreeBSD servers (sometimes it is announced, e.g. after big Xorg upgrade) you can use -PP more comfortably. Otherwise, some (easily curable) inconsistencies might occur. If you use -PP, make sure you have the correct PKG_SITES variable (pointing to stable dir), or you will fetch very ancient versions. If a machine is slow, it's a good idea to fetch packages first (either with '-P -F' or with '-PP -F') and have a look what will be used in a real install. FYI, > People using reply to all on lists, must think I need 2 copies. People don't need to be subscribed to be able post to FreeBSD lists. Many of them are subscribed to digest versions. That's the reason why Reply-To-All is a convention, and you should do so if you want your answers to reach users you are replying to. Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 20:13:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E72216A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A7613C480 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from [87.114.69.55] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1IT0hE-0000DR-Bd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:37:52 +0100 Message-ID: <46DF058F.9010606@jessikat.plus.net> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:37:51 +0100 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <69951ED3-5B8F-4D00-8920-BFF278C68DE6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <69951ED3-5B8F-4D00-8920-BFF278C68DE6@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: temporary su login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:13:21 -0000 Eric Crist wrote: ........ > I'm sure nobody will mention this, so I will. On most systems with > support ACPI, your colo provider can simply press the power button on > the front of your server. FreeBSD's kernel will pick up the signal and > shut down cleanly. > > Once you're moved, they can press the same button to power the system > on. There is *NO* need to give them login access to the box. Also, > they could simply call you to have you shut it down. ...... many good ideas; thanks. I guess since they ask for an ip based mechanism that I'll create a special user in the operator group and do the chmod trick on shutdown. -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 20:20:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D3A16A421 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A3E13C469 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so6304395pyb for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:20:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=OmoeWXEBMDbi/3osqvG/0C6ZErqK/qFMiUVQXOVo2tpmcpSp3Qj5SXbPCuaCK6RkiqCTAfHwlcdS43LZJCgHLtifaBDwJ1w9XUT7HnwfgxDJBGAgGLaHuwxpvHJf4yFA4iYFlrnXgRJ7a6wXjtPnenJX4w5NOoAtofOVoplH3+4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Wgrpq4ArOds97PELptavinky9QuYRrOj9aEGhnkWMuTYsGpWLHxjg3vtjwSY/OcYUFjFNUiWE78hvDTE7PkZM6+2cNXXV8U5USkOxotEencATVAN0PnKGCqDfwnhCtgAxI84VBXHCfDgG+ppREW22l+M//0op5hbwlTbnx+DNVc= Received: by 10.35.115.18 with SMTP id s18mr9098749pym.1189023658040; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ( [209.240.66.157]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f6sm9440324pyh.2007.09.05.13.20.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:20:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> <20070905155804.GE25281@ayvali.org> <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6EBEFC5F-0727-4A91-A43E-0C638DC3FB52@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Crist Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:20:54 -0500 To: Andrey Shuvikov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:20:59 -0000 On Sep 5, 2007, at 2:05 PMSep 5, 2007, Andrey Shuvikov wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was > going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody > named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not > suitable for this task? Andrey, I can't speak of exim or qmail, but I had used sendmail for nearly 10 years before switching to postfix. I switched was for support of virtual mail boxes, and better support for IMAP. Regardless of the software you choose, it's to your benefit to figure out what you want to do in the long run, and choose the software that is best going to allow you to achieve those goals. HTH ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 20:53:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4DA16A420 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3089313C48D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so986831wra for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:53:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GSPFsFvfSjLT6EGiK3ziRfC/tFHvKMCMzmVrW60qwOe8MEF5EA4U7XtZ8BttBk9OkZHskTzdkxls1UrygdwxHjrU6Zu2YBCCAEVZKqVoACONWHlAzrMM/UdJXRSYgjXMUhB0SSSIYgNF1ImRN7ZoJpnilHMQ/5vS7aXt8530VLk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WT2scJStMiohYFaZgZt4Ik/P9W4clndmDPVkn4eFRoOrE+rjIgVSMAjBdSTHUSmuX/F3OSi/97scWRyTOORqBY2NIGlZwd1TY/VI5Z5jbAGcwe8UJbpDlCETByr9v/8p/VL+nkjtywJ2MQMpsKNH/j15ECNG5ZDOql9CtDhNZ1k= Received: by 10.142.77.11 with SMTP id z11mr389365wfa.1189025577122; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.80.8 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990709051352g2e5f8e14xc2e04b032f7efc76@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:52:56 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: "Andrey Shuvikov" In-Reply-To: <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> <20070905155804.GE25281@ayvali.org> <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:53:15 -0000 On 9/5/07, Andrey Shuvikov wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was > going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody > named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not > suitable for this task? > It's most definitely a matter of personal preference. I lean toward Exim or Courier. Exim is highly customizable, but the price you pay for that is a steep learning curve when you start looking at customization. Courier isn't as flexible, but can do anything most people are likely to want from a mail server by just setting the appropriate configuration values. And if you just must have more complexity, you can use procmail to do local delivery for Courier. FWIW I use Courier at home and Exim at work. We replaced Qmail (yech!) with Exim at work in part because we needed its customizability. The only real reason for me to switch to Exim at home would be to reduce the number of tools I'm dealing with. Courier has the advantage of having everything (smtp, pop, imap, and webmail servers) all distributed as one package, other than the host web server for the webmail component. Whatever you do, please don't use Qmail. I don't want any more blowback spam than I already get. In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a passion. I suppose it is suitable for people who like puzzles (as in "What patches do I need to make this do something useful?" or "What third-party tool do I need to make sense out of these awful log files?") and who don't mind inflicting lots of unnecessary secondary spam on the rest of the world. Yes, I know there are _supposed_ to be patches that fix that problem, but (a) the one I've seen in action doesn't work very well, and (b) you shouldn't need to apply third-party patches to your mail server to make it do what it is supposed to do in the first place. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 21:04:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E346516A418 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6688013C442 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so2515598fka for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:04:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pJdieK36BoVxhOktVbT7EpQY9ZQK1ff0pUu2YrJPJroNqHzL9Wz4Rj1iSD9jsv6O/xpUd0tLzKMhupgzvCHYRltmw63uvLlRJU38CA7Bw7v06McfwNk5tyHVd03JuIUn2cbbEwAZaOrW99iG+5IFtDoH6KpTqf265L75UYfhKyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=d9e3Pti+kEvl1VB05Z0HOIxIMsoqyrqQAp6cHsUBhD+WEPTEAB/3kq5RGz7YZFM20SoZ1PaAbp2BOZsXHL8pVV5C8yKOnKHMemhWhftzzD2JoGcAyrdK27Gaj1eilYtgqKvxMc1f3R4o2m33nn8IS0DapUtsva2YgrFuE7o1Oqw= Received: by 10.82.183.19 with SMTP id g19mr17084226buf.1189026248157; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.191.14 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20709051404l6091bafas48d63fd4076e8fef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:04:08 -0400 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20709050354q4d186df4y6958e2f81d5dfc66@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Nikola Lecic , "Russell E. Meek" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:04:18 -0000 > I would submit you think you do. For example, are you planning on > putting a webmail interface on the server? A lot of people do. Well > if you do and you put a scrap of CGI on there that has a hole in it > a spammer can come along and cause that to relay mail from incoming > http right into your mail queue. He doesen't need root access to > do this. I have never stated interest in putting web mail up in my to-do list, and in fact, have explicitly stated at least once, I've no intention of doing that. To be blunt, I don't trust it. I only use it for things on which I don't care about the security (ex. reading mailing lists). I care about the security of my server. -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 21:04:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8793A16A41B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E05713C45E for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1441475rvb for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:04:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=HiyjBGmuukd7k9IMX0bENIxPyCwjztQCyG+5w8LTQm0uiJY3zI2GpW8+dSRsD8/Ad0OUX8p3BX0RPeLQb1gc1HTfA9COhhxJmtXjzbka0JStiF2W0xt3CY4M7x1HTGpmivA4KZJ30+/jvYyVsovraSf8bTm4vaaeCCHQhGkwCdg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EK2hMu90f51q4EQ3EILKSMvYlUKnwY4FgTV9Oaw32sT06d4fYa4rt4xdURcs/mkTZiMetIhwTXIESXoTccBMqKQw1gNp2fix+6VbqQFCZAKVL/Sk5wF+2/liY9ldk0k0smiVxwbPDUE89ag/6105ozMRfXlhu9Zk8+3W2MWtUlc= Received: by 10.141.71.19 with SMTP id y19mr1673913rvk.1189026285827; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.79.9 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94136a2c0709051404s58c9bb75p57c76567e48ad7bc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:04:45 +0200 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> <20070905155804.GE25281@ayvali.org> <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:04:51 -0000 Hello 2007/9/5, Andrey Shuvikov : > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was > going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody > named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not > suitable for this task? It is more than suitable. Both postfix and exim are comparable and powerful MTAs. I personally use Exim but that's because I started with it. It is very customizable. For those who begin their adventure with exim, maybe even vexim is better because you get everything virtualised (virtual users, domains, etc.) and you define your emails, quotas, etc. via browser. http://silverwraith.com/vexim/ Regards, Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 21:17:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BAC16A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C6D13C461 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494941CCA6 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:17:41 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:17:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46DECE7F.3000909@fid4.com> <200709052053.24538.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <200709052008.l85K8neO020335@smtpclu-3.eunet.yu> In-Reply-To: <200709052008.l85K8neO020335@smtpclu-3.eunet.yu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709052317.40090.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: /usr/ports & portupgrade when only using packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:17:42 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 22:09:18 Nikola Lecic wrote: > Mel, Nikola, > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:53:24 +0200 > Mel wrote: > > [...] You cut out some context there, relevant to your response. Namely, the user wanted to know if you could do without a populated /usr/ports and just use pkg_add/pkg_delete. As such, slashing irrelevant answers. > > You could manage with pkg_add/pkg_delete, but then: > > 1) *You* have to find out which packages are eligible for upgrading > > 2) Upgrading a package will mean delete the old version before > > installing the new one > > Deleting the old version before installing the new one (obviously!) > happens always when you upgrade/downgrade/reinstall something, whatever > method you choose (compiling through ports or using packages). It's not so obvious. If you use pkg_add thinking to upgrade package foo, you will instead get an error indicating that the package with that origin is already installed. > If you > compile through port, a package will be created on your machine after > compile, so the result should be the same (unless you have custom > options). A package is not automatically created (portupgrade -p does this). And no, packages created with -p (make package target) are not guaranteed to be the same as packages created with pkg_create -b, which portupgrade uses to repack dependants (portupgrade -rp). I still am figuring out exactly why this is (check out PKG_ARGS and ACTUAL_PACKAGE_DEPENDS magic in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk), but I've compared +CONTENTS of installed port and it's package created by portupgrade on several occasions, and found it to be quite different, so my slave machines get the wrong dependencies. Now I just don't use -p on the build machine and run a php script to repack packages (recursively) after portupgrade -a. > > (Yes, I realize portupgrade does this) > > If a machine is slow, it's a good idea to fetch packages first (either > with '-P -F' or with '-PP -F') and have a look what will be used in a > real install. Trust me, I know portupgrade in and out and don't need to be convinced it does a good job running in source mode. Here's my list of things it does badly in -PP (binary) mode, please read carefully: - takes ages to find out dependencies contained in packages it downloaded, when the packages are big, because it extracts the entire package. [1] - downloads dependant packages that it later doesn't install, because the original package contains that dependency, but the local system contains a newer version. - When using portinstall -PP cat/foo it will go to /usr/ports/cat/foo and run make all-depends-list which recursively lists all dependencies, especially with Xorg ports, this takes ages before anything happens. It is a needless step in -PP mode, because it should just download the package archive, extract it's contents file, and work from there. [1] This is the first thing I programmed differently: $ time pkgdeps koffice-1.6.3_2,2.tbz atk-1.18.0_1 (accessibility/atk) arts-1.5.7_1,1 (audio/arts) real 0m0.166s user 0m0.094s sys 0m0.020s Core func responsible for that: char *extractPkgContents(const char *path) { struct archive *pkg; struct archive_entry *entry; char *buff = NULL; size_t len = 0; FILE *pkgFile; pkgFile = fopen(path, "rb"); if( !pkgFile ) return NULL; pkg = archive_read_new(); archive_read_support_compression_bzip2(pkg); archive_read_support_format_tar(pkg); archive_read_open_FILE(pkg, pkgFile); while(archive_read_next_header(pkg, &entry) == ARCHIVE_OK) { if( !strcmp(CONTENTS_FNAME, archive_entry_pathname(entry))) { len = archive_entry_size(entry); buff = (char *)malloc(len+1); if( !buff ) return NULL; archive_read_data(pkg, (void *)buff, len); buff[len] = '\0'; break; /* we got what we want, bail out */ } archive_read_data_skip(pkg); } archive_read_finish(pkg); fclose(pkgFile); return buff; } -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 21:25:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA5116A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D84913C46B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so6335266pyb for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:25:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=MufuKMkz/r3Yhiw/WumNfAE1QDDtYcC/CSl1nOwj+jt0jkEOmVP4qkYJl4eLauBLPLgwbCAwO+01xQf53jwn+5TBcUi8kytlEjXPAQDIrd/ceGawdEigi3Y0IuXaIivGwAMDXiWFB0qYw48MVR7ITzCCURaVRgjo9zirH1QTmWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Ip06qE59Gdo4cws7nJpTQ6/xtswTxYwsK0jI3m+304LksFndhQGrrkN7COgMq8H4a1XC3RcKC7Ry4rO+CUkb2dXj+Qtn5i5ItcBEdjn57n+S5aPw1yWuTs8WhbqhUjOKhk2HWcFSetN9+GxPEPloKRxxBKDXhScTitvJ1k1iWgM= Received: by 10.65.240.17 with SMTP id s17mr13840774qbr.1189027545732; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.208.1 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:25:45 -0400 From: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Burn ape music to CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:25:57 -0000 Hi, I have some ape music files ready to burn to CD, I first comvert them into wav file then use cdrecord, but I heard that this is not necessary, ape file can burn to CD directly, how is this achieved?? Can I play the CD in regular stereo?? thank you!! TFC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 21:29:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE4916A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-31.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-31.bluehost.com [69.89.18.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C23F13C48A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 24257 invoked by uid 0); 5 Sep 2007 21:29:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 21:29:29 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1IT2RE-0000N1-Gp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:29:28 -0600 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l84Nn3w7090542 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:49:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l84Nn2lk090541 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:49:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:49:02 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070904234902.GC90403@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> <20070905155804.GE25281@ayvali.org> <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> <54db43990709051352g2e5f8e14xc2e04b032f7efc76@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54db43990709051352g2e5f8e14xc2e04b032f7efc76@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:29:29 -0000 On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 04:52:56PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote: > On 9/5/07, Andrey Shuvikov wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was > > going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody > > named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not > > suitable for this task? Exim is as suited for the task as Postfix and Sendmail. All three are in roughly the same class of mail transfer agent, and are roughly interchangeable in terms of functionality. Sendmail is very old-school Unix in its design philosophy, from what I've seen. Postfix is pretty easy to wrap your head around and is pretty light on resources when well-configured. Exim -- well, I suspect it has some excellent qualities to recommend it, but my personal experience is that it's a severe pain in my fourth point of contact to configure. Exim is the default MTA for Debian, and while I was using Debian I ended up swapping out Exim for Postfix on every install after I finally got tired of dealing with Exim's configuration complexities and caveats. Your mileage may vary. > > Whatever you do, please don't use Qmail. I don't want any more > blowback spam than I already get. I'm not a huge fan of Qmail, either. I not only try to avoid it myself, but wish others would do so as well. > > In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a passion. I > suppose it is suitable for people who like puzzles (as in "What > patches do I need to make this do something useful?" or "What > third-party tool do I need to make sense out of these awful log > files?") and who don't mind inflicting lots of unnecessary secondary > spam on the rest of the world. Yes, I know there are _supposed_ to be > patches that fix that problem, but (a) the one I've seen in action > doesn't work very well, and (b) you shouldn't need to apply > third-party patches to your mail server to make it do what it is > supposed to do in the first place. Basically, Qmail seems to have taken the philosophy of removing everything non-basic to make Qmail "secure" and "simple" by default. Unfortunately, as you hinted, this means Qmail requires a bunch of third-party add-ons, tools, plugins, and extensions to do anything useful, and those extras are not subject to the same standards of simplicity and security as Qmail itself. The end result is that Qmail servers tend to end up badly unsecured and something of a nightmare to maintain -- or, at least, that's what I've seen. It's also not really open source software, or wasn't last I checked, anyway. For all I know, all my experience with Qmail (and thus my knowledge of it) may be obsolete. My memory of Qmail is somewhat reinforced by this, however: http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html This, however, makes it clear that you should (in the US) be able to get away with passing around patches all you like: http://cr.yp.to/softwarelaw.html . . . which has nothing to do with whether it's "open source", really. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Amazon.com interview candidate: "When C++ is your hammer, everything starts to look like your thumb." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 21:58:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAB216A41A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1571E13C442 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from phoenix (hnvr-4db3d8c5.pool.einsundeins.de [77.179.216.197]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABE0A44529; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:54:54 +0200 (CEST) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: Predrag Punosevac Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:58:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> <46DF0009.1010301@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <46DF0009.1010301@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709052358.19718.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: Andrey Shuvikov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:58:23 -0000 Am Mittwoch 05 September 2007 21:14:17 schrieb Predrag Punosevac: > We have a exim at the University of Arizona and works really well (but I > am just a user not a sysadmin). Me, personally, I can only swear by Postfix. I've set up numerous Postfix mail servers over the last two years, and I've never had trouble with them as to this date. Postfix is robust (I've never had an error condition that _lost_ mails, so far), (actually) pretty easy to configure in comparison to sendmail and (IMHO) exim, simply because the documentation is extensive and the directives are clear and concise for the main configuration (that's for the main.cf; master.cf, which dispatches the different parts that make up Postfix, is a different topic, but you needn't touch that under most circumstances), and it's easily extensible my its extensive use of the generic feature of "maps" for any lookups required for configuration options (a map can basically come from anything, such as get*ent, flat db files, relational databases, a socket protocol, and some other things which you'd possibly not even dreamed about). By using the Postfix mail filter APIs (completely different to milter, but milter is also possible AFAIK in Postfix 2.3+), I've hacked together a small Anti-Harvester plugin in an afternoon for the three big servers I administered, and there's tons of software out there that plugs in with Postfix to do things like greylisting, spam control, mail traffic accounting and rate limiting, and the like. The architecture of Postfix I'm talking about is called the policy framework. Thirdly, I don't recall a major security vulverability in Postfix for quite some time now (longer than from what I know of sendmail, anyway, but this might be my biased vision), and generally, you can expect Postfix to come preconfigured "safe", unless you explicitly open it up (which isn't easy to do). On the other hand: besides trying sendmail some years back (I still have the O'Reilly sendmail book somewhere on my shelf), I've never tried a different mailer in a production environment yet, so the value of my answer may vary. I know most of my peers who deploy Debian in server environment swear by exim (I should guess because it comes preinstalled and is the default for them), but again, I recall the horror I faced when I had a look at the exim configuration of my uni when I had to change mail routing (because their exim mailserver got blacklisted, and had to route through one of the servers administered by me to be able to get out mails at all; that was a happy moment in my student admin career :-)). Anyway, have a look at Postfix, I can pretty much guarantee you that it'll suck you in! -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 22:03:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6A016A419 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@inf.ed.ac.uk) Received: from nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDDB13C468 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@inf.ed.ac.uk) Received: from macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk (macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.164.231]) by nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l85M3BWh017929 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:03:11 +0100 Received: by macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 26013) id 6EF69258F8C; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:03:10 +0100 (BST) From: Richard Tobin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: just say no X-Mailer: Ream 5.1.51-richard-mac Message-Id: <20070905220310.6EF69258F8C@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:03:10 +0100 (BST) Subject: Disk errors when copying X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:03:15 -0000 When copy between disks (ad10 ->ad8), I get errors: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=435128800 ad10: FAILURE - READ_DMA48 status=51 error=10 LBA=435128800 g_vfs_done():ad10s2g[READ(offset=175562145792, length=131072)]error = 5 I don't get these errors just reading the data from ad10. Is this some kind of system error rather than a bad disk? Is it a known problem? (6.2 stable, SATA disks) -- Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 23:21:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F9D16A41A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:21:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B307313C46A for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:21:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so1256766nzf for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:21:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CKnmPRiPpVz3QwKmWKI82WgkLcCBPAHU4kCc0RTmNEnda8umas1eJXdRKrxiHYgeHWU7mTCDqi4nzT5u/lH+uA7yNZFegh9x9zgAnk+E1g2a3XmaNdblZfe6DFpy6Ddgbkb7hdcPUcZoJ2hi4qIQJjWbihvbh0IgUhR3gVvXDYk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=eVW4ONI1h8U5kI8BaQX1wVdaqdfQXWQy5OsKTUkU+oJxqz/tbktFmH/b6yjIYs6D+5trAmQl0bq65HPwBNgum+SB0rE/CP0myvGh1W7aGg+hdghh3k5gaxsFtjcJO6ZXyFx2n1zekmu7UH0JSXwUM1uOxNyztPHMaWLspaYgEZk= Received: by 10.142.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr399336wfb.1189034473008; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.10.17 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <26ddd1750709051621m439700e3v20f0e56c2a53f930@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:21:12 -0400 From: "Maxim Khitrov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: RAID Controller Recommendations: ARC-1210 or 9650SE-4LPML X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:21:35 -0000 Hello, I'm building a new workstation for myself, which will primarily run FreeBSD 7.0+ and possibly dual-boot with Win XP for gaming. I'd like to have at least a terabyte of redundant disk storage (probably RAID5), so I'm trying to figure out which controller would give me the best results. My two main candidates are Areca ARC-1210, and 3ware 9650SE-4LPML. Both are 4-lane SATA II controllers. Both cost about the same, and from what I gather, both should be supported by FreeBSD. I read the reviews, but would like to get some additional feedback specifically for using the two under FreeBSD (maybe one has better drivers... I don't know). I plan to get Gigabyte's GA-P35-DQ6 motherboard (btw, any compatibility issues I should know about?), which has a 4x PCIe slot. ARC-1210 uses 8x, but since the physical size of the slot is actually 16x, there shouldn't be a problem. Don't think the controller will be able to use 2GB/s of bandwidth to its limit anyway. So that's basically my setup. I'd like to know if anyone here has personal experience with either controller. Are there any stability issues? Which one would give me best performance with 4 drives in RAID5? Which one has more mature drivers? If you have some other recommendations, I'm happy to hear those as well. Thanks, Maxim Khitrov From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 23:39:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0B016A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net (galaxy.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD07B13C458 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A1FE00071D; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 00:38:34 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <46DF3DD0.9040506@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:37:52 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robin Becker References: <46DECD4F.3050408@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> <69951ED3-5B8F-4D00-8920-BFF278C68DE6@gmail.com> <46DF058F.9010606@jessikat.plus.net> In-Reply-To: <46DF058F.9010606@jessikat.plus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: temporary su login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:39:13 -0000 Robin Becker wrote: > Eric Crist wrote: > ........ > >> I'm sure nobody will mention this, so I will. On most systems with >> support ACPI, your colo provider can simply press the power button on >> the front of your server. FreeBSD's kernel will pick up the signal >> and shut down cleanly. >> >> Once you're moved, they can press the same button to power the system >> on. There is *NO* need to give them login access to the box. Also, >> they could simply call you to have you shut it down. > > ...... > > many good ideas; thanks. > > I guess since they ask for an ip based mechanism that I'll create a > special user in the operator group and do the chmod trick on shutdown. In truth, I thought this was the worst idea of 'em all (sorry to whoever posted it...). Group operator can read all your disks - it was created in the days when there really was an operator who did stuff like backups. Put yourself in it by all means, but give that to a stranger? Not me... To add to the solutions, you could create a user in group operator with a new ssh key that specifically executed shutdown, since you use ssh keys already. I'd still take it away the moment the box was moved. Or just set their shell to shutdown. But no general purpose login. Also, on my system, shutdown already is in group operator, but maybe I just did it by hand and forgot. 10 -r-sr-x--- 1 root operator - 10200 Sep 30 2006 /sbin/shutdown* --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 00:46:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E9516A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 00:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E0B13C442 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 00:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.188] (port=41676 helo=smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1IT54k-0004L3-TF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:18:26 +0200 Received: from cp1228410-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.157.163]:56633 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1IT54j-0005Qg-Bd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:18:25 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 02:18:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <090520071906.4943.46DEFE460008FCB60000134F220642461308099A0E0B0B0703D20D010D@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <090520071906.4943.46DEFE460008FCB60000134F220642461308099A0E0B0B0703D20D010D@comcast.net> X-Face: U%PgEJ2IfD9niTG.6[,9!; !G|I$ZCvvZDD|.X; H*T1xqk>Fc$W?~t]FD@a4))=?utf-8?q?=2EFi=5CCn4!=7D=0A=09?=,u!3+a^.v+%fL2J~SN%'23mIhZ#G#i=[NZv#w*Q& X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:46:45 -0000 I reckon the last two additions to this thread was the passive-aggressive version of "can't we just all get along.. and now STFU". Look, Ted's right (ouch, that hurt ;-). Quite often -- arguably always -- if you really want to be heard you have to be able to confront controversial issues head on and tell it like it is (ok, or rather how you think/feel/know it is). If you're on the other side of such an issue, it's easy to publicly nod and safely join the herd, but it's much harder to go against the grain. It's not called 'against the grain' for nothing. And though I not always (probably mostly not) agree with Ted, I for one respect such a personality trait. It's easy to be a yes-man, it's much harder to be a no-man. But if you believe in certain things or find that you have gathered adequate evidence to support a different opinion, it's a good thing to have the balls to say so. Nice form and good manners are valuable, but if only used in order to maintain status quo they're merely shields for the "yes-men". Besides, I'm of the persuasion that thinks that a good flamewar now and than isn't that bad, it's probably more harmful if the environment is such that any strong resentment cannot be expressed without some form of repraisal (sp?). Once you find yourself in such an environment it's do or die and you bet that folks are going to leave eventually. For that reason alone, I believe that the FreeBSD community actually needs people that tend to go against the grain from time to time. It's a healthy thing. Now to get back to the subject, what I don't understand is how OP thinks that [k]ubuntu would not need tinkering time. It's quite possible that a generic debian or arch install requires less tinkering to get it to behave the way you want (perhaps initially some more, but not after). Why not buy one of those gorgeous new imacs or a Mac lappy and be done with it, while still being able to do a lot of hacking if you really want to? From what I've read OSX is a great development system. Cheers, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 01:04:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CABF16A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 01:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D8013C442 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 01:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IT5mn-0002Bh-BB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:03:57 -0700 Message-ID: <12513880.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:03:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Pluta To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: peter@placidpublishing.net Subject: Nginx + FastCGI + PHP5 on FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:04:37 -0000 Has anyone sucessfully got this running? I haven't been able to get this to work. I've looked at the numerous guides i've found on Google both in Russian and in English. I'm trying to use php's default fastcgi spawner and it's just not working. I've tried editing the bash script, but it won't start (I changed few things around and changed it to sh). I'm pretty much stumped now and want to just run it on Apache with mod_fcgid, but before I do that I want to be sure I can't get it to work. :working: Script: #!/bin/sh ## ABSOLUTE path to the PHP binary PHPFCGI="/usr/local/bin/php-cgi" ## tcp-port to bind on FCGIPORT="9000" ## IP to bind on FCGIADDR="127.0.0.1" ## number of PHP children to spawn PHP_FCGI_CHILDREN=2 ## number of request before php-process will be restarted PHP_FCGI_MAX_REQUESTS=500 # allowed environment variables sperated by spaces ALLOWED_ENV="PATH USER" ## if this script is run as root switch to the following user USERID=nginx ################## no config below this line if test x$PHP_FCGI_CHILDREN = x; then PHP_FCGI_CHILDREN=5 fi ALLOWED_ENV="$ALLOWED_ENV PHP_FCGI_CHILDREN" ALLOWED_ENV="$ALLOWED_ENV PHP_FCGI_MAX_REQUESTS" ALLOWED_ENV="$ALLOWED_ENV FCGI_WEB_SERVER_ADDRS" if test x$UID = x0; then EX="usr/bin/su -c $USERID \"$PHPFCGI -q -b $FCGIADDR:$FCGIPORT\"" else EX="$PHPFCGI -b $FCGIADDR:$FCGIPORT" fi echo $EX # copy the allowed environment variables E= for i in $ALLOWED_ENV; do E="$E $i=${!i}" done # clean environment and set up a new one nohup env - $E sh -c "$EX" &> /dev/null & If anyone has a better method of getting it to work please do share it. I'd like to get it to work and possibly write a small guide aim'd at FreeBSD users. Thanks, Sasha -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Nginx-%2B-FastCGI-%2B-PHP5-on-FreeBSD-6.2-tf4389129.html#a12513880 Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 01:13:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DB716A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 01:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7390A13C4A6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 01:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 68707 invoked by uid 1002); 6 Sep 2007 01:12:59 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 6.279416 secs); 06 Sep 2007 01:12:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 6 Sep 2007 01:12:53 -0000 Message-ID: <46DF541A.606@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:12:58 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mchauber@gmx.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:13:15 -0000 > As I said, don't apologize for using an OS that matches your needs > better than FreeBSD. Just don't assume that everyone's needs are > the same as yours, and we would all be spending less time tinkering > with Ubuntu, or even FreeBSD for that matter. This is an exceptionally good point. I use Windows on my workstation at work. 90% of our servers run FreeBSD. In the past, I have run into issues using particular software with FreeBSD at home, so I just ran Windows. Since I rarely use a PC when I'm at home, and it's more for the kids/wife, I recently acquired a new PC for my home environment from a corporation that had no OS on it. I knew FreeBSD would not do the job in it's entirety (none of my FBSD boxes have anything resembling a GUI near it), so I tried Ubuntu. Looks great, the GUI comes up perfectly right after install. Personally though, the only thing I have a hard time with is commands aren't in the *right* place, or missing entirely. Same for config files etc. (CLI obviously). Not only that, there are specific tasks that I want to do via GUI, but you (OP) like I, have not the time to figure it out. The entire issue comes down to what works for *YOU*. Does FBSD do what you need, and also satisfy the requirements for everyone else who will use it? If not, does Windows? I didn't go with Windows, because I am certain I can have our home PC do what my family needs it to do with something else. However, that said, if it comes down to it, and I have to fudge too much longer to make it just work, then yes, Windows it is, and I will begrudgingly go purchase another license. If you don't have time to get one OS working properly to your requirements, then go for one that you know will work globally in your environment. Your original post stated: "Sadly, I need to get an OS that my wife would be more comfortable using and that wouldn't be as time-comsuming to make it more comfortable for her." ...how 'bout you ask HER what SHE wants here? By reviewing the thread, you are busy on the road working, so if she feels a license for Windows is the answer, then you are obviously busy enough with work to justify the cost to offset the lost time in implementing something else...right? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 01:37:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C1D16A41A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 01:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A3D13C457 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 01:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 12037 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2007 20:37:19 -0500 Received: from 124-170-91-48.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.91.48) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 5 Sep 2007 20:37:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:37:11 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome To: "Bob Johnson" Message-ID: <20070906113711.1927d1cb@localhost> In-Reply-To: <54db43990709051352g2e5f8e14xc2e04b032f7efc76@mail.gmail.com> References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> <20070905155804.GE25281@ayvali.org> <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> <54db43990709051352g2e5f8e14xc2e04b032f7efc76@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Andrey Shuvikov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:37:20 -0000 On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:52:56 -0400 "Bob Johnson" wrote: > In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a passion. I > suppose it is suitable for people who like puzzles (as in "What > patches do I need to make this do something useful?" or "What > third-party tool do I need to make sense out of these awful log > files?") and who don't mind inflicting lots of unnecessary secondary > spam on the rest of the world. Yes, I know there are _supposed_ to be > patches that fix that problem, but (a) the one I've seen in action > doesn't work very well, and (b) you shouldn't need to apply > third-party patches to your mail server to make it do what it is > supposed to do in the first place. I second all these points. I think it's probably better to use sendmail than qmail. Sendmail at least supports most (all?) SMTP / antispam related features, it is well documented , and configurable to the extreme (with the caveat that its configuration may be a bit daunting to the un-initiated :D). I just realised that qmail appears over and over in Linux distros, or at least on linux servers i've had to suffer... not sure the relationship there (in design / philosophy...)... and I am really NOT wanting to start a flame war. Just a thought that crossed my mind as I was reading this thread. Best, B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." Charles Darwin. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 02:37:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81DF16A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 02:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demonichandextensions@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s3.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s3.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40D313C457 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 02:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demonichandextensions@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([64.4.38.32]) by bay0-omc3-s3.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:37:04 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:37:04 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.38.200 by by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:37:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.245.120.128] X-Originating-Email: [demonichandextensions@hotmail.com] X-Sender: demonichandextensions@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750709051621m439700e3v20f0e56c2a53f930@mail.gmail.com> From: "brad davison" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:37:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2007 02:37:04.0190 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF6345E0:01C7F02E] Subject: RE: RAID Controller Recommendations: ARC-1210 or 9650SE-4LPML X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:37:16 -0000 > >Hello, > >My two main candidates are Areca ARC-1210, and 3ware 9650SE-4LPML. >Both are 4-lane SATA II controllers. Both cost about the same, and >from what I gather, both should be supported by FreeBSD. I read the >reviews, but would like to get some additional feedback specifically >for using the two under FreeBSD (maybe one has better drivers... I >don't know). I just put a 3ware Escalade into our mail server. I don't have experience with the model you are speaking of, but I know that 3ware and BSD have a good long history together. I had no problems with the controller (but I did have a strange issue with some Seagate drives, replacing them with Western Digitals fixed that though.) >RAID5? Which one has more mature drivers? If you have some other >recommendations, I'm happy to hear those as well. Like I mentioned, I had no problems with the 3ware, and it had good driver support in BSD. from the 3ware website::: http://www.3ware.com/support/OS-Support.asp 9650SE Series * FreeBSD 5.0 driver source available in 9.4.1 code set * FreeBSD 6.0 driver source available in 9.4.1 code set * FreeBSD 6.1 (x86 & x86_64) Take it easy, Brad _________________________________________________________________ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 03:15:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635F216A41A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 03:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D1C13C458 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 03:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so23407nzf for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:15:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ib9fvlq6QxCbNzlCYnLl+8ScIRX7Tj0WmOC37k5FtA0=; b=Otr8tu9DWiU+GUo2336EDsEQrPyI8kx4rvz/MiKFoz+t5N9qmc5eMOANHFWm3HcJk8WIHLA84mnToOXTNhkMNXn+KkERVZEuzk2wxyU3xuX14j/9/Qpxv8WizZVqmrcwjDL4gT9HDynoO7mGNKoNV75QxR2VRA2rzVaw4aSrTpI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=E6BE1kj9nk8FuWzz4bEMP1UefDia75xO8x91lz7tKoeIXwQ++wujfwkbTdC3Qqypj6lVR7NMvbiVNBJPcbbUesMz2PIJTPL9CEUgNgWUzt7ahVVI8w/Q3/4Cnra5EKyP36RMZHYkM20ArGGKV2AFOAIDvy29GJJHxIVzlC0+/3Y= Received: by 10.142.231.7 with SMTP id d7mr4931wfh.1189048499594; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.10.17 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 20:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <26ddd1750709052014k384ccfd3s9890a1576d1db344@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:14:59 -0400 From: "Maxim Khitrov" To: "brad davison" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <26ddd1750709051621m439700e3v20f0e56c2a53f930@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID Controller Recommendations: ARC-1210 or 9650SE-4LPML X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:15:01 -0000 On 9/5/07, brad davison wrote: > > > >Hello, > > > >My two main candidates are Areca ARC-1210, and 3ware 9650SE-4LPML. > >Both are 4-lane SATA II controllers. Both cost about the same, and > >from what I gather, both should be supported by FreeBSD. I read the > >reviews, but would like to get some additional feedback specifically > >for using the two under FreeBSD (maybe one has better drivers... I > >don't know). > > I just put a 3ware Escalade into our mail server. I don't have experience > with the model you are speaking of, but I know that 3ware and BSD have a > good long history together. I had no problems with the controller (but I > did have a strange issue with some Seagate drives, replacing them with > Western Digitals fixed that though.) > > >RAID5? Which one has more mature drivers? If you have some other > >recommendations, I'm happy to hear those as well. > > Like I mentioned, I had no problems with the 3ware, and it had good driver > support in BSD. > > from the 3ware website::: http://www.3ware.com/support/OS-Support.asp > 9650SE Series > > * FreeBSD 5.0 driver source available in 9.4.1 code set > * FreeBSD 6.0 driver source available in 9.4.1 code set > * FreeBSD 6.1 (x86 & x86_64) > > Take it easy, > Brad Good to know, thanks. Would still like to know a bit more about Areca, since I have no experience with them and only heard about their products recently. As an alternative, I was considering the cheap(er) option. The motherboard (GA-P35-DQ6) comes with 6 SATA II ports connected to ICH9R. I have a feeling that using RAID 5 with this option would be rather slow, that's why I'm looking into a dedicated hardware controller. However, RAID 10 is a fairly simple implementation. I can't use RAID 0 because I need redundancy, and RAID 1 is too slow. RAID 10 obviously requires more drives, but for the $300 that I would have spent on the controller, maybe instead it's worth to simply buy an additional drive or two and use the built-in controller. Any thoughts on this? I could probably get 4 320GB Seagate 7200.10 drives to begin with and have 640GB of space. Would add two more later on when I need them. This actually turns out to be cheaper initially than getting 3 of those drives along with a hardware controller. My guess is that performance may also be better due to simplicity of design. How does FreeBSD play with ICH9R RAID? - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 05:05:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E446416A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DDE13C45E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so38818nzf for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:05:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=GARZ3SC3YnpfZB6gf2NDv1bXNraTvsnPNn+grc3S8S4=; b=MfoMvRgMikuMeL1JsyMN6ZVYCGrOlKBtiZkeyzeLjYPiCG/QWwti3U1y5SWEkqbBw5AASfqekKyJigAyVUDbbvXHvT6/tGIaZIFIGnsklOllCTRyB2q2Q+Ts8VlJEb2UFIU8H8GHhL5W5An2o9qwy/ogXcUCNC26TZxKYyhGITk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=k/JFMYwd+TmYkLNZXfbcBVeyqE/uzQFOLmnzAmyCQLP0N4qnuhU4ahL11V/Jnt/IE68AEpFh4zOs60d37fqrDqkA/znZwVhZpSaGyjEHPj5G0MdJWtkVEscNbsgofoGeJC6FpHyQWnJSTvrAaaU7m7YmKqcFV5bd89dMgj2I64k= Received: by 10.142.239.11 with SMTP id m11mr7558wfh.1189053349054; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.163.14 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6e4453640709052135k61dc4097nb79c03e4672e5489@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:35:49 -0700 From: "Erin McNew" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Canon A620, FreeBSD and gphoto2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:05:23 -0000 I'm trying to get my Canon A620 camera to work with gphoto2 under FreeBSD. dmesg is telling me that my camera is /dev/ugen0. [osiris temp] gphoto2 --list-ports Devices found: 2 Path Description -------------------------------------------------------------- ptpip: PTP/IP Connection usb: Universal Serial Bus [osiris temp] gphoto2 --port /dev/ugen0 -P *** Error *** An error occurred in the io-library ('I/O problem'): Failed to open '/dev/ugen0' (m). *** Error (-7: 'I/O problem') *** [osiris temp] gphoto2 -L 1 *** Error *** An error occurred in the io-library ('Bad parameters'): Could not find USB device (vendor 0x4a9, product 0x30fc). Make sure this device is connected to the computer. *** Error (-2: 'Bad parameters') *** I tried using --debug, but it didn't seem to give me that much more detail, at least that I could understand. I also tried specifying the port as "usb" and the camera as "Canon PowerShot A620 (PTP mode)" (as specified in gphoto2 --list-cameras). None of this worked. Each gave me the "bad parameters" error, which is slightly frustrating. I believe that this could be due to the fact that the camera is being seen as ugen0 instead of usb. Is there a way to cause it to be seen as usb? Thanks! ~Erin -- http://www.tuxgirl.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 05:40:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574EF16A468 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB7813C458 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:40:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so42574rvb for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:40:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=qlzlKPgmXSk59EeLHOcmapXvmnoKAbWx1c/u7tkhZnA=; b=Ls8NuKy9TYad1gsDn+2Omjll0YJSFG9cCkK4CP3M3rkxQpwl1y5pSk8ZT5NXgU2UL9n3EeoOTCgQ7xh7NmsyxojzF8NmzvDHWJBTQL/A3WA5QhrrhxViq9yIn+bXomlLSIWjGUrMm38ZKB77R/vW33fN/KMH/6coE6LCOvopXWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=r3k91Qz6qYn8JsGe47/uoP158lj5BkD5tchcACLWdA6IYY8odyWWh1tAlkFfv5KOuJ1/KbZ6C69n8k0XhE3q+gb4yhH5DgooFfrqc2PGKVcFwwKibFJkbknJ/REtAY5cDWik+ELoZPhGXsxcX52dN8LFPTv6BVu9fD6GaHRmDLk= Received: by 10.141.197.18 with SMTP id z18mr90859rvp.1189057219665; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.79.9 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 22:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94136a2c0709052240t708b91d2kdeff3acffb96b39b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 07:40:19 +0200 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Unable to load dynamic library / mysql.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:40:34 -0000 Hello, I got a php warning and I am not sure what would be the best way to deal with it. I'd like to be able to load the dynamic extension as without it database back-end sites won't work. Will it help to force upgrade of php4 and php4-extensions (portupgrade -f)? php -v PHP Warning: Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20020429/mysql.so' - Shared object "libmysqlclient.so.15" not found, required by "mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 PHP 4.4.7 (cli) (built: Jul 28 2007 17:27:57) Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group Zend Engine v1.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2004 Zend Technologies mysql --version mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.1.21-beta, for portbld-freebsd6.2 (i386) using 5.0 Many thanks for your suggestions! Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 06:11:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA0716A47A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C56313C491 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l866BC7o037044; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 07:11:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1189059074; bh=35gBsRB+sWnB/C Yg6rPd2jhjIliDKUlnSK2nDI6R704=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Organization: User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc: Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version: References:To; b=wY975dSBWwO47sfUOVO7WyZX9E5jDfG2eIWnwk1qpZiWJzK8G wNl0HjJ3Wh10fyJ4V89dF96OdSMSkW3bM9sIgoNlvQ5GUaUbpFNLEgi0yqQ2y0ouPeR j9wm0ZSuGIzAPof2nkzBiszMN+6aW57AXtm3Vrio+QsOg7Gi/9TUwvg= Message-ID: <46DF9A00.5070603@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:11:12 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070803) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <94136a2c0709052240t708b91d2kdeff3acffb96b39b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0709052240t708b91d2kdeff3acffb96b39b@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:11:14 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/4170/Thu Sep 6 05:30:09 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to load dynamic library / mysql.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:11:26 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > I got a php warning and I am not sure what would be the best way to > deal with it. I'd like to be able to load the dynamic extension as > without it database back-end sites won't work. Will it help to force > upgrade of php4 and php4-extensions (portupgrade -f)? > > php -v > PHP Warning: Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20020429/mysql.so' - Shared object > "libmysqlclient.so.15" not found, required by > "mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP 4.4.7 (cli) (built: Jul 28 2007 17:27:57) > Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group > Zend Engine v1.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2004 Zend Technologies > > mysql --version > mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.1.21-beta, for portbld-freebsd6.2 (i386) using 5.0 > > Many thanks for your suggestions! What does: ldconfig -r | grep mysql return? If there is no mention of libmysql.so.15, then that explains the symptoms you're seeing. libmysql.so.15 should be found in /usr/local/lib/mysql and that directory should have been added to the ldconfig search directories when you installed the mysql-client port. You can try adding it in manually if it isn't there by: ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib/mysql Note too this warning from ldconfig(8): For security reasons, directories which are world or group-writable or which are not owned by root produce warning messages and are skipped, unless the -i option is present. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFG35oA8Mjk52CukIwRCCpPAJYo8tziOMCC/mbJx1cUmIslz8oIAJ94RdgO bqYjUxLY3JkKuiKmfpwFdw== =VNjX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 06:18:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A755F16A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E42813C461 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so48994rvb for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:18:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=2/UkVOoswfj8I91l/5q0Oss2JAcDP1WXyHVqZjIXdk4=; b=HX+rVHSuLSMYlr71S3TI5ro6q8Bb1prNcj67h0x1X0xiWZCosCuq2FS5Z/Y2p5OQ6ihJ2h+FZgr3JVuEnrW4ZJrXuuWusf+rJDpyXrHi2FUUC8nLDByPtvAE8OUWFWNnr/JRlSnVoT66RaYnpQC+WO3lSZ0Pos3A3ff/h9qJN38= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P43adJF5/KA7wRAHRjnWQTywLEOTm7IiiYnE1FaSZ/XXvHvmMf79r7G9at7yfrurXFEEK1iPTZoYD2Oy/4qN5YikGcyOfbKIAjHs+oT+nRWEV4mzS5jjgmIWb4gJ74SlzgW/4m3gTh7y1DwE36qUMcGIz2sfnY3CJFkpTsvLPLw= Received: by 10.141.180.5 with SMTP id h5mr90111rvp.1189059506537; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.79.9 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94136a2c0709052318k5c5863d2qdd2a1e9568e77261@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:18:26 +0200 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <46DF9A00.5070603@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <94136a2c0709052240t708b91d2kdeff3acffb96b39b@mail.gmail.com> <46DF9A00.5070603@infracaninophile.co.uk> Subject: Re: Unable to load dynamic library / mysql.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:18:40 -0000 Hello, 2007/9/6, Matthew Seaman : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I got a php warning and I am not sure what would be the best way to > > deal with it. I'd like to be able to load the dynamic extension as > > without it database back-end sites won't work. Will it help to force > > upgrade of php4 and php4-extensions (portupgrade -f)? > > > > php -v > > PHP Warning: Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library > > '/usr/local/lib/php/20020429/mysql.so' - Shared object > > "libmysqlclient.so.15" not found, required by > > "mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > > PHP 4.4.7 (cli) (built: Jul 28 2007 17:27:57) > > Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group > > Zend Engine v1.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2004 Zend Technologies > > > > mysql --version > > mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.1.21-beta, for portbld-freebsd6.2 (i386) using 5.0 > > > > Many thanks for your suggestions! > > What does: > > ldconfig -r | grep mysql ldconfig -r | grep mysql search directories: /lib:/usr/lib:/usr/lib/compat:/usr/X11R6/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/local/lib/compat/pkg:/usr/local/lib/mysql:/usr/local/lib/dovecot:/usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap:/usr/local/lib/dovecot/pop3:/usr/local/lib/dovecot/lda:/usr/local/lib/pth:/usr/local/lib/apache2 134:-lmysql_drv.7 => /usr/local/lib/libmysql_drv.so.7 206:-lmysqlclient.16 => /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.16 207:-lmysqlclient_r.16 => /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient_r.so.16 I did notice yesterday that the system now (after mysql upgrade) wants to use mysqlclient.so.16 (it was dovecot who first complained, its upgrade solved the problem). So maybe I should refresh the php installation to take notice of that? Thank you very much indeed! Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 06:26:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3778A16A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:26:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AD813C468 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:26:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l866PrwB022859; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:25:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l866Pj6o022855; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:25:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:25:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Maxim Khitrov In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750709051621m439700e3v20f0e56c2a53f930@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070906082531.T22854@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <26ddd1750709051621m439700e3v20f0e56c2a53f930@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID Controller Recommendations: ARC-1210 or 9650SE-4LPML X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:26:07 -0000 > I'm building a new workstation for myself, which will primarily run > FreeBSD 7.0+ and possibly dual-boot with Win XP for gaming. I'd like > to have at least a terabyte of redundant disk storage (probably > RAID5), so I'm trying to figure out which controller would give me the > best results. simply use no raid+software raid From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 06:27:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AB316A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA98F13C4D0 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l866Qifv062174; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:26:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jonathan McKeown" Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:27:14 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200709051412.05364.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: questions on setting up a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:27:01 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan McKeown [mailto:jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 5:12 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: questions on setting up a mail server > > > I've edited ruthlessly to reduce the length of this message. > > On Wednesday 05 September 2007 11:07, you wrote: > > > > > > My main question is on authentication. I was looking at > > > > > authentication types in kmail to get an idea of what I > can use, and I > > > > > found: > [list of SASL methods plus question what to use] > > > > > > > > Much of this depends on the mail clients that your going to be > > > > hitting the server with. > > > > > > > > The first group does encryption of the password only. > > > > > > Not sure what's meant by ``the first group'' here. > > > > CRAM-MD5, Digest-MD5, NTLM, GSSAPI, and APOP are associated with > > password encryption on SMTP auth and POP3 as you well know, so please > > do not try to be deliberately stupid to make a point. Just make > > your point and get on with it. Most people won't understand > > anyway. > > I wasn't trying to be stupid: I saw a single list of SASL authc > methods and > wasn't sure where you had drawn the line to divide them into two groups. > > [...certificates] > > > > There is a large amount of arcane magic to do this, and to > > > > get it accepted into Windows, so that an Outlook client will do SSL. > > > > This isn't true, in my experience. > > > Your experience is limited then. > > Yes, it is: but with Windows 2000/XP and Outlook 2003, it's not > magic. In fact > I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was. > > > Sure it is simple - when ALL clients are running the same version > > of Windows, IE, and Outlook. Perhaps true in a small network. Very > > not true in a large network. > > I'll bow to your experience on that. All I can say is that my own > view is that > the bigger the network, the more important it is to get software > standardised > across the organisation to reduce your support costs, and the > cheaper it is > to do through volume licensing. That sounds like a line from a MS sales rep. It really isn't true and I'll explain why in a moment. > We're a small, donor-funded, > African NGO, and > we have two versions of Windows (2000 and XP) and one version of Office > (2003). We will use Microsoft's down-licensing provision to stick > with what > we have until we're ready to upgrade everyone. > I don't know what licensing your running but I can tell you that MS has a program called Open Charity - if your donor funded, you very likely qualify for this, and are on it. The costs for licensing on that program are -unbelievably- cheap. It completely changes the capital cost/support cost equation that yes, indeed, it almost always makes sense to upgrade across the board under that program. For most for-profit corporations it is -very- expensive to upgrade across the board. It also causes costs to spike in some years - most corporations hate that. Most corporations when faced with a choice of spending $50K a year, every year, from now until doomsday, or a choice of spending $100K every 3 years, from now until doomsday, they will take the $50K a year, even though over the long run it costs them more. The reason is due to cash flow. This is also why corporations will buy a photocopier for $10K, and immediately stick it on a 5 year lease that will cost them $3K a year in interest and principal. Yes I know it is stupid and it used to drive me banannas when I worked as an accouting clerk a couple decades ago, but it is how businesses (at least in the US) do business. Anyway, because of this most large corps follow a staggered upgrade plan. Every 4 years a quarter of their employees get brand new computers and a quarter of the computers they have in production get scrapped. Or, every 3 years a third get new stuff. Or every 5 years a 5th get new stuff. Whatever they decide to budget for. This is why Microsoft has twice extended the End Of Life software support deadline for Windows XP. Corporations are nowadays treating their computing purchases the same way they treat other capital expenditures, by staggering the costs over time. The days of across the board software upgrades are over and done with, except for government contracts where most governments are still clueless. > > Everyone supports LOGIN and PLAIN. (at least I never met a mail > > program that didn't - perhaps there is one) But, you cannot get > > password encryption with Outlook Express unless you do NTLM. It > > supports nothing else, except for SSL which is encryption of the > > entire channel. > > > > If you know of a way to get OE to support CRAM-MD5 then do tell. > > No, Outlook 2003 doesn't support PLAIN - at least I couldn't get > it to. That's > why I enabled LOGIN. It's true that NTLM is the only encrypted password > protocol supported by Microsoft - that's why I'm using an > encryption layer > with cleartext authentication. > I've never enabled just PLAIN without enabling LOGIN since it is rather pointless to only enable one, since both of them are unencrypted. So that is interesting to note. I don't know that there would be any advantage to disabling one over the other, though. > > > > The honest to god truth of the matter is that encrypting your POP3 > > > > and SMTP auth passwords is difficult to do on a large scale > no matter > > > > what road you pick to do it, so there is really not a lot > of point to > > > > doing it unless your in a rather limited environment. > > > > > > I'm not sure I would agree with this statement either. > > > > I perhaps should have explained this more. Encryption of e-mail > > is absolutely pointless unless done from [end to end] > > > It is only useful for protecting passwords from wire sniffing. > > True up to a point. It can also offer integrity - an assurance that the > message is from the authenticated identity. Although that > assurance is only > valid at the first server (the MSA), that may be enough to > prevent injection > of a variety of kinds of junk with forged sender information. > That is true but only if you purchase certs from a 3rd party, if you self-sign you lose the integrity aspect. Unless, of course, you use an outside channel - such as reading the SHA thumbprint over the phone to the end user or some such, and making sure they check it when they accept the certificate - or forcing all of the road warriors to return home to the mothership at least once to have a tech load a root cert, or some other such method. I am not convinced though that most people dealing with certs understand what an outside channel is and how it relates to the integrity aspect, including most users, so this is more of a philosophical than a practical discussion. > > But in most cases, the wire isn't sniffable. > > Given that, certainly in my case, the ``wire'' may be cellular, radio, > satellite, wireless LAN, or a government, academic or > hotel/airport network > providing temporary connectivity, I can't say that with confidence. > > > password sniffing only becomes a concern when you have road > > warriors who are NOT connecting into the mailserver via a VPN > > Again true - but now you're talking about another method of protecting > passwords, and another technology to master. In practice, even > though I run a > VPN as well, I still use TLS at the individual service level to protect > passwords ``in flight''. > Naturally, if you can do an encrypted channel without involving a VPN you would be daft to involve a VPN - but there are a lot of company networks out there where these are political, not technical, decisions. Curse those in-flight magazines on the airlines - you wouldn't believe some of the daft ideas I've had to put up with that came spewing out of some CEO's mouth that came across some article in one of those. > > And even if you have valid concerns on password sniffing well > > that's simple enough to address - don't be an idiot and use > > the same user name and password for your e-mail clients as > > you use for your network and windows logins. > > I would dispute that this is idiotic. You do need to protect the > password much > more carefully, but there are advantages to having a single > password, easily > changed by the user and easily cancelled when the user leaves. > Not at all - it depends on your ratio of road warriors to in-situ folks. In your case you have a lot of them, coming from a lot of weird places - so what your doing with SSL is the obvious choice - at first glance. But, keep in mind you have no real mail security in your setup. Your corporate jewels are not the passwords, or even the data on the mailserver - as since your running POP, the data on the mailserver is transient. Your real corporate jewels are the information assets contained in the hundreds if not thousands of saved e-mails in the countless folders that your road warriors have created over the years. And that data is hanging out there in space like a ripe plum for anyone to pick. Your road warriors have ample time to access that information and cooorelate it how they want. You have a sales rep. leave - he takes his last 4 years of contacts with him as all he needs to do is make a copy of his mailbox.pst file and take it with him when he leaves. And not just contacts - all the sales history of those contacts. All tied up in a nice, searchable package in that .pst file. And, how about the day when your road warrior's laptop get stolen? He's saved his e-mail login ID and password in his mail client - no need for sniffing there. Now anyway, none of this may apply to a NGO but I think you get the idea. It would apply to most corporations. > [certificate authority not hard] > > > > I didn't say doing that was hard. The problem is that the entire SSL > > picture is hard for a newbie. > [...] > > It's only after digging for a long while will they come across > > some pointers that will shed the light. > > That's certainly true. The longest part of the design, implementation and > rollout of our new mail system was finding all the bits and pieces and > working out how to put them together. > > [of SASL authc methods] > > > Of the passwd-based methods, PLAIN is the preferred protocol > > > according to the docs and RFCs - LOGIN is the one Microsoft uses > > > (go figure). > > > LOGIN and NTLM. PLAIN and LOGIN are identical, it's merely a naming > > convention. > > No. There are small differences but they are there. PLAIN sends a single > string containing the authorization identity, authentication > identity, and > password. LOGIN expects a prompt to which it replies with the > authc identity, > then a second prompt to which it replies with the password. The protocol > specifies that the content of the two prompts is irrelevant, but Outlook > expects specific strings. > > [long discussion of config details] > > > The first time someone collects email with Outlook, they get a > > > warning that the certificate isn't trusted, but also the option > > > to install it. Half a dozen clicks later the certificate is in > > > place. > > > > That is only for Outlook 2003, and that Outlook only comes with > > MS Office. Your making several assumptions here - first that it's > > an environment with all Outlook (not Outlook Express) and second > > it's all current Outlook. > > > > With Windows Product Activation the bad old days of a corporation > > buying a single copy of Microsoft Office and loading it on 50 > > or so machines are long gone. Why do you think that there's a giant > > fight now over the OpenXML standard? Corporations are done with > > standardizing on a -version- of MS Office, as they now know that > > they are going to have mixed networks with different versions of > > MS Office on them since they cannot pirate software anymore. They > > now want to standardize on a document format, so they don't get > > pushed into updating -everyone- on the network when a new verison > > of Office comes out. > > Again, I wouldn't run a network like that because of the support > problems it > causes - this being one example. You can buy one copy of > Microsoft Office and > a volume licence, and Microsoft will allow you to downlicense so > that you can > standardise on an earlier version until you are ready to upgrade. This > approach to licensing is one thing they get right, IMO. > Yes, but you have to pay the fee for every copy of what you downlicense. This isn't cheap. Once more, quotes straight out of the MS salesbook. It's a lot cheaper to simply pay for what your using. Year 1 you have 5 PC's you pay for 5 copies of Office 98. Year 2 you have 5 more PC's you pay for 5 copies of Office 2000. You DON'T pay for 10 copies of Office 2000 then downgrade half of them. And so on until you start scrapping systems. As for support costs - your going to have support costs either way, and a lot of it depends on what the employees are doing. In most companies the majority of employees are NOT sitting in cubiciles shuffling paper around. They are actually out there doing work - talking to people, operating machinery, making things, fixing things, building stuff, yadda yadda yadda. Consider Intel Corp.'s payroll - they don't outsource their chip manufacturing, at least, not the stuff that makes them real money. If their payroll was mostly suits in cubiciles they wouldn't be making any products at all and what would be paying those salaries? Sure - there's so-called "new economy, information only" companies out there where everyone is shuffling paper on a computer screen. I can think of a few - law firms, CPA's etc. But not the majority of companies. In fact, there's a huge movement these days to -take away- the general purpose PC from a lot of employees and replace it with windows terminals, and suchlike. Companies have many employees out there who they do not want wasting time downloading the latest .mp3 or surfing the web - they want them inputting data into the customer service database, or shipping paper, or whatever the company does to make money. They are running apps that do not change from year to year and the machinery they are running these apps on does not need to change every year - just because MS comes out with some new operating system and wants to make some money. I've been in this arena since 1990 and I have watched as the computer has come into businesses - and the height of the "slap a PC and an Office Suite on their desk" was sometime in year 2002. Since then a larger and larger number of companies are looking seriously at their office productivity and finding out that the new version of MS Office don't grind out the sales quotes any faster than the old did, or the cad drawings, or the whatever. And that's just general purpose office cube farmers. The factory floor people got their PC's taken away years ago, and replaced with toasters that may look like PC's but do only 1 thing. The hottest software markets today are things where they are coming out with narrow-market software that addresses specific needs, for specific industries. You can't name a single industry anymore that doesen't have a couple of ISVs in it that make turnkey systems that lock the entire workflow down. The single largest penetration of Windows Vista today is among the home users, I kid you not. That will certainly change eventually, but so far your just not reading those countless testimonials of large wholesale rollouts of Vista among the Fortune 500 like you used to read years ago in the trade rags when XP came out. > > For older Outlook versions, you can't just do 6 clicks and install > > it. And, are you aware that MS has dumped Outlook Express entirely > > with Windows Vista and IE 7? One more wrinkle for the sites that > > are not all MS Office on every desktop. > > > > Granted, if you have clients using older versions of Outlook > or dozens of > > > different email clients, you may have issues finding working > > > combinations of TLS/STARTTLS/port numbers and authentication methods, > > > > Bingo! > > Yes, but in a business environment, almost the first problem you > need to solve > is controlling which clients are going to connect to the mail > server. If you > haven't managed to standardise on one or two clients across a large > organisation, you're probably too busy doing support to worry > about setting > up a new email system. > In these large organizations it's not really possible to standardize across the organization. There's just too many bodies and systems. It is like painting the Golden Gate Bridge - you start at one side and by the time you get to the end of it, it's time to start at the beginning again. The norm is a rolling upgrade program where your tackling groups a chunk at a time. > > > but by and large it's just putting a few slightly scary-sounding > > > pieces together on the server - all of which are either in the > > > base system (sendmail: most of the objections to sendmail haven't > > > had any basis in reality for several years. > > > I agree wholeheartedly, I use sendmail for all my mailservers anyway. > > > > It's now as easy to configure as Postfix, IMHO, and hooking > > > Mimedefang in as a milter gives you the ability to reject a lot of > > > junk during the connection rather than after the fact) or easily > > > added from ports. > > > greylist milter is also a good one to have. > > I haven't tried putting any obstacles in the way of incoming mail > over and > above the difficulties many mail admins cause themselves. You would be > astonished at what I see coming over the transom on my mailservers, I very much doubt that. > especially the Mailman box (we host a number of lists). As it is, > we take a > few steps that end up rejecting over 80% of our incoming connections. > Well, greylisting isn't an obstacle but I understand the controversy on it. And I will tell you that in running it for the last 2 years I have proof positive that it works, why? Because the spammers are adapting to it. Each month it's less and less effective - just as each month the other filters are less and less effective. As for obstacles, its no worse than any of the other filters. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 06:31:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744E216A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01A713C46A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l866VjA3037209; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 07:31:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1189060307; bh=WXqSd8RQZ/7z1U nZ61eKiN6zMZRdSSxhXynqjgnxVT0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Organization: User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc: Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version: References:To; b=g0p4AsP/TsswIsxvgC3LKLXMEkuNnJ+DLj93tsr/Szi1N6KYC kx5Bg9rWjyXioJp1/ttamybwAtgTF8Akf4a+9t9SBZZ3EzHsINFaRKN0QAhbPtFTGtE WMBHg0pzOdc+XhU/YHv59LbncokXLMbXm4CHmu1epMDPRjeIVt0lsTU= Message-ID: <46DF9ED1.3090801@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:31:45 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070803) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <94136a2c0709052240t708b91d2kdeff3acffb96b39b@mail.gmail.com> <46DF9A00.5070603@infracaninophile.co.uk> <94136a2c0709052318k5c5863d2qdd2a1e9568e77261@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0709052318k5c5863d2qdd2a1e9568e77261@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:31:47 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/4170/Thu Sep 6 05:30:09 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to load dynamic library / mysql.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:31:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > 2007/9/6, Matthew Seaman : >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I got a php warning and I am not sure what would be the best way to >>> deal with it. I'd like to be able to load the dynamic extension as >>> without it database back-end sites won't work. Will it help to force >>> upgrade of php4 and php4-extensions (portupgrade -f)? >>> >>> php -v >>> PHP Warning: Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library >>> '/usr/local/lib/php/20020429/mysql.so' - Shared object >>> "libmysqlclient.so.15" not found, required by >>> "mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 >>> PHP 4.4.7 (cli) (built: Jul 28 2007 17:27:57) >>> Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group >>> Zend Engine v1.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2004 Zend Technologies >>> >>> mysql --version >>> mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.1.21-beta, for portbld-freebsd6.2 (i386) using 5.0 >>> >>> Many thanks for your suggestions! >> What does: >> >> ldconfig -r | grep mysql > > ldconfig -r | grep mysql > search directories: > /lib:/usr/lib:/usr/lib/compat:/usr/X11R6/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/local/lib/compat/pkg:/usr/local/lib/mysql:/usr/local/lib/dovecot:/usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap:/usr/local/lib/dovecot/pop3:/usr/local/lib/dovecot/lda:/usr/local/lib/pth:/usr/local/lib/apache2 > 134:-lmysql_drv.7 => /usr/local/lib/libmysql_drv.so.7 > 206:-lmysqlclient.16 => /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.16 > 207:-lmysqlclient_r.16 => /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient_r.so.16 > > I did notice yesterday that the system now (after mysql upgrade) wants > to use mysqlclient.so.16 (it was dovecot who first complained, its > upgrade solved the problem). So maybe I should refresh the php > installation to take notice of that? > Seems you've actually installed mysql-client-5.1.x rather than the mysql-client-5.0.x PHP is looking for. Recompiling PHP will make it link against the later shlib. In fact, you should run this: portupgrade -fr mysql-client (or the equivalent in whatever ports management package you prefer) Thus will force a recompile of everything that depends on mysql-client, so that they all pick up the change in shlib version number. Hmmm... I guess you aren't a portupgrade(1) user, because if you were, there would still be a copy of libmysqlclient.so.15 preserved in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg/ and the mysql dependent applications would still be running against that. Although you should still do the forced upgrade shown above: portupgrade's behaviour of saving old shared libraries is meant to provide a temporary band-aid towards keeping everything running as far as possible while performing system updates. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG357R8Mjk52CukIwRCNQAAJ4mADS9Gybg3JWdSuJb3HaFtHWFmgCfULYP yqdlLbLT3QiSLdSyYnuo6fk= =kM/F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 06:32:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A6916A46B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C0A13C478 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l866VnAP062208; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Nikola Lecic" Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:32:19 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200709051519.l85FJPIx006295@eunet.yu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: "Russell E. Meek" , Jim Stapleton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:32:20 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Nikola Lecic [mailto:nlecic@EUnet.yu] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:20 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Russell E. Meek; Jim Stapleton; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions >=20 >=20 > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 01:22:12 -0700 > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: >=20 > > Your reaction is facinating considering the location implied by > > your e-mail reply address. I can perhaps understand your adversion > > to the use of metaphors in language - God know the Serbian > > propagandists warped the metaphor beyond the breaking point in your > > history and perhaps now, there is a horror of them there that will > > take generations to dissipate. >=20 > Congratulations. >=20 Thanks! Much appreciated! Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 06:52:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2238516A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0369F13C480 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITBCd-0003Zs-VQ for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:51:00 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ITBCa-0003ZZ-Oz; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:50:57 -0700 Message-ID: <46DFA25F.7000504@math.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:46:55 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erin McNew , questions@freebsd.org References: <6e4453640709052135k61dc4097nb79c03e4672e5489@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6e4453640709052135k61dc4097nb79c03e4672e5489@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: Canon A620, FreeBSD and gphoto2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:52:20 -0000 You should try to mount your camera manually first as su - password mount_msdosfs /dev/ugen0 /mnt If you can not read the camera only then you should use gphoto2 but logged as a supper user to avoid permission problems. If that fails i.e. if you get the message BLOCK DEVICE RECUIRED you should try to use gphoto2. This is step by step for my Sony Cyber-Shot W70 1. Change into PTP mode on camera 2. Go to su mode (this can be avoided but I left it so that my wife cannot mess with it) 3. gphoto2 --auto-detect will list your camera as Sony DSC-F707V (PTP mode) usb: 4. gphoto2 --help to get various commands 5 gphoto2 --L will list all the files in numerical order 6 gphoto2 --get-file=NUMBER Range (will get you files in that range) 7 WARNING you may need to issue the commands some time multiple times because they fail. The following message is not uncommon *** Error *** Note you might not need to go to PTP mode for your particular camera! If that fail then you can use cheap card reader which are well detected by FreeBSD. There is an excellent thread that you can review http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=12015&page=7&pp=15 maybe somebody left specific details for you camera but I think I gave you a big push:-) Please let me know how it goes. Predrag Erin McNew wrote: > I'm trying to get my Canon A620 camera to work with gphoto2 under FreeBSD. > > dmesg is telling me that my camera is /dev/ugen0. > > [osiris temp] gphoto2 --list-ports > Devices found: > 2 > Path Description > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ptpip: PTP/IP Connection > usb: Universal Serial Bus > > [osiris temp] gphoto2 --port /dev/ugen0 -P > *** Error *** > An error occurred in the io-library ('I/O problem'): Failed to open > '/dev/ugen0' (m). > *** Error (-7: 'I/O problem') *** > > [osiris temp] gphoto2 -L > > 1 > *** Error *** > An error occurred in the io-library ('Bad parameters'): Could not find USB > device (vendor 0x4a9, product 0x30fc). Make sure this device is connected to > the computer. > *** Error (-2: 'Bad parameters') *** > > I tried using --debug, but it didn't seem to give me that much more detail, > at least that I could understand. I also tried specifying the port as "usb" > and the camera as "Canon PowerShot A620 (PTP mode)" (as specified in gphoto2 > --list-cameras). None of this worked. Each gave me the "bad parameters" > error, which is slightly frustrating. > > I believe that this could be due to the fact that the camera is being seen > as ugen0 instead of usb. Is there a way to cause it to be seen as usb? > > Thanks! > ~Erin > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 07:56:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F17D16A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 07:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C1E13C428 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 07:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so67343rvb for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:55:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=bhMBohEAJ8PxaCokK48qpt6lAyc4fdBNzfY4Wc7/hMo=; b=DeRcyGC3eILgA+p2zzIJ5ZBT8e583p3xxoKyPqjStXLtY+0XuNl5Zejlsd+Y+XSHtu4UPsuJBb5fxf1/y1Qh22FdTXD2UxcRg5qpDHwKJCy8rgArM/6vB73bIRwj7UbSs46fHICPk0rTWZzHjrmcDQOL9w0z6McvwmaLCxwX2Yk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tJcryaoiKkJxK/1HHygZDz45dqj+XxEmz55vTFCMxRfdU6jY9TKMogK02SyKM3Yy+9NCTWN9JiZm+LKSme5TxKJynJ2p9m72Zg1GD3X08mmw1NNzOWJnbQidooHz6u4sybVfmVy6FghT8iDKLMfNU81vXGCQNT+TJMygDeHGAh0= Received: by 10.141.88.3 with SMTP id q3mr133608rvl.1189065346320; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.79.9 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 00:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <94136a2c0709060055j5dd86dbcn459b3a9ffc9df770@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:55:46 +0200 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <46DF9ED1.3090801@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <94136a2c0709052240t708b91d2kdeff3acffb96b39b@mail.gmail.com> <46DF9A00.5070603@infracaninophile.co.uk> <94136a2c0709052318k5c5863d2qdd2a1e9568e77261@mail.gmail.com> <46DF9ED1.3090801@infracaninophile.co.uk> Subject: Re: Unable to load dynamic library / mysql.so X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:56:10 -0000 Dear all, 2007/9/6, Matthew Seaman : > >>> I got a php warning and I am not sure what would be the best way to > >>> deal with it. I'd like to be able to load the dynamic extension as > >>> without it database back-end sites won't work. Will it help to force > >>> upgrade of php4 and php4-extensions (portupgrade -f)? > >>> > >>> php -v > >>> PHP Warning: Unknown(): Unable to load dynamic library > >>> '/usr/local/lib/php/20020429/mysql.so' - Shared object > >>> "libmysqlclient.so.15" not found, required by > >>> "mysql.so" in Unknown on line 0 > >>> PHP 4.4.7 (cli) (built: Jul 28 2007 17:27:57) > >>> Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group > >>> Zend Engine v1.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2004 Zend Technologies > >> ldconfig -r | grep mysql > > > > ldconfig -r | grep mysql > > search directories: > > /lib:/usr/lib:/usr/lib/compat:/usr/X11R6/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/local/lib/compat/pkg:/usr/local/lib/mysql:/usr/local/lib/dovecot:/usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap:/usr/local/lib/dovecot/pop3:/usr/local/lib/dovecot/lda:/usr/local/lib/pth:/usr/local/lib/apache2 > > 134:-lmysql_drv.7 => /usr/local/lib/libmysql_drv.so.7 > > 206:-lmysqlclient.16 => /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.16 > > 207:-lmysqlclient_r.16 => /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient_r.so.16 > > > Seems you've actually installed mysql-client-5.1.x rather than the > mysql-client-5.0.x PHP is looking for. > > Recompiling PHP will make it link against the later shlib. In fact, > you should run this: > > portupgrade -fr mysql-client > > (or the equivalent in whatever ports management package you prefer) This has done the trick and solved the problem. Thank you very much for being so helpful! Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 08:33:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1717116A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:33:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A9813C467 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.13.8/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id l868XYMI099294 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:33:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 168 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA2D2377C6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:33:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id 2328080; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:33:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:33:33 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070906083333.GA72351@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.168]); Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:33:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/4170/Thu Sep 6 06:30:09 2007 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 46DFBB5E.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:33:59 -0000 Danny Pansters wrote: > Now to get back to the subject, what I don't understand is how OP thinks > that [k]ubuntu would not need tinkering time. It's quite possible that a > generic debian or arch install requires less tinkering to get it to > behave the way you want (perhaps initially some more, but not after). > Why not buy one of those gorgeous new imacs or a Mac lappy and be done > with it, while still being able to do a lot of hacking if you really > want to? From what I've read OSX is a great development system. I have FreeBSD and Ubuntu feisty 64 bits installed on my laptop. My conclusion is that Ubuntu requires ways less tinkering and works very well. As to using a mac, i don't see at present a reason to do that. I don't see a single thing that Mac OS does that FreeBSD with KDE desn't do much better. I don't need a laptop which overheats, has a one button mouse and other oddities. I don't want to learn still another system which doesn't have a single strong point. To come back to Ubuntu, it has at least two fetaures that FreeBSD doesn't: - suspend-resume works, which is immensely useful for a laptop - it has a package management sytem which works, using *binary* packages. No, portupgrade is not in the same categaory by any stretch of the imagination, and i have no business spending hours compiling stuff. Incidentally, Ubuntu also has working support for Intel wifi, the Syskonnect ethernet card and the Intel video card, where FreeBSD has experimental drivers such that the ethernet loses as many packets as it transmits (myk driver) and X locks up at least once a day. It is not very difficult to understand why Ubuntu is massively gaining users, while FreeBSD doesn't, and is now ranked position 22 on Distrowatch. -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 08:55:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EDB16A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@elgert.dk) Received: from pqueueb.post.tele.dk (pqueueb.post.tele.dk [193.162.153.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE8813C48A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@elgert.dk) Received: from pfepa.post.tele.dk (pfepa.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.235]) by pqueueb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EEC8870 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:37:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elgert.dk (0x573c4c6f.nivaanqu1.broadband.tele.dk [87.60.76.111]) by pfepa.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 607C3FAC002 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:37:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elgert.dk (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:37:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:37:31 +0200 From: Harry Jensen To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070906083731.GA3413@mugin.localhost> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <6e4453640709052135k61dc4097nb79c03e4672e5489@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6e4453640709052135k61dc4097nb79c03e4672e5489@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: Canon A620, FreeBSD and gphoto2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:55:43 -0000 On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 09:35:49PM -0700, Erin McNew wrote: > *** Error *** > An error occurred in the io-library ('I/O problem'): Failed to open > '/dev/ugen0' (m). > *** Error (-7: 'I/O problem') *** I have a Nikon Coolpix 4500, and found following through Google: ------ To have the rights to download files from a digital camera, add following to the "/etc/devfs.rules": [usb_devices=10] add path 'ugen*' mode 0660 group operator add path 'da*s*' mode 0660 group operator ..and restart "/etc/rc.d/devfs restart" ..add yourself to the "operator" group. ------ For me it just worked then. Sometimes it will fail during the initial attempts to download files, but then I just switch off the camera, and on again, then it works. It might be better, security wise, to have a group called "camera", instead of "operator", but have not tried it. Brgds Harry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 09:07:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DDA16A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karol.kwiat@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FAA13C45E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karol.kwiat@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k4so82416nfd for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:07:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; bh=if/7Dw461Phu5LEeAKkeXFCDdiN9HtTNiPkD/Um35nI=; b=pi6/UG2PwDSYHUQPkPhBSvcanLMBExp9HidKN8xjTiI8MBu0K0AW7VEoTiRZwE9MIVARSAVR3AG/8bgSnMka2WFzIVaXZFeBEs9bwDGnabL0/9r7whbbtlS9mgRxV2O6Hl9dlWvVL5ZeGYeYqnwreqzsLPyXXwF1ami9dz94zSM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=fPK6/jJxUDtkn1aR/br+GM//H9svPKHgljiSECJqKmiZ/Vr3WraMwS0BPetgCatLHSpg/3MpgJbDdvdU9Pyht/u+T8cOmB2HglGO/SHCuwyCf9ZXg65WU4VUOkpdzrsnYeiZGfy02f4Z4bIeBotxBcT8FAwxsNs/5ZbjoLxTfII= Received: by 10.86.26.11 with SMTP id 11mr435799fgz.1189069629675; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from persephone.orchid.homeunix.org ( [84.10.173.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm12236296fkt.2007.09.06.02.07.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46DFC33A.3090903@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:07:06 +0200 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070803) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tsu-Fan Cheng References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 OpenPGP: id=06E09309; url=http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig15A7C5CA5F2D37C124D1EC91" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burn ape music to CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: karol.kwiat@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:07:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig15A7C5CA5F2D37C124D1EC91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > Hi, > I have some ape music files ready to burn to CD, I first comvert them= into > wav file then use cdrecord, but I heard that this is not necessary, ape= file > can burn to CD directly, how is this achieved?? Can I play the CD in re= gular > stereo?? thank you!! No, you can't. Audio CD is a specific format without compression, etc. Either someone was using software which did ape decompression on the fly or he was using a special device to read them. Cheers, Karol --=20 Karol Kwiatkowski OpenPGP 0x06E09309 --------------enig15A7C5CA5F2D37C124D1EC91 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBRt/DOghgT0HIecD5AQiJ3wgAmqnSpR6Yx5F3TvxDFMvOTn57kE30kfdD BVfJsJlrCXoOFa7fWmJQK2I5MmPr3E2yBbr4pnvuYJb+OzAL5mARE4c5c/qTbr0j MQccer45bFFs4tkMee9+EIP5GfLglJRrVn9YqSp8TLci2rVmZb3PeWzHAsBO6hNP pa7+ZM8G3RIzaYn9oG6wXe8dYussFTs0pKJVaZvnqPR9hzHwkYsUvpT2grnlH1Xt ATQtb0QN9emSfJm7SAbEfaWYU1Mkpnxw7+u5hLrP5Jh5XcTHEdgN0svH9Rb7wa5D U0c6p3R4JKGdQceoil/oRyjtqJkvcxP3LTILS7+G9BRlsxrrrtKfqA== =M31G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig15A7C5CA5F2D37C124D1EC91-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 09:42:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1CA16A41A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail43.e.nsc.no (mail43.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D4613C457 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [62.16.173.224] (062016173224.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.173.224]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail43.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l869g6U7014102 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:42:06 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <46DFCB8C.7030309@netscape.net> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:42:36 +0200 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070626) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070906083333.GA72351@lpthe.jussieu.fr> In-Reply-To: <20070906083333.GA72351@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:42:22 -0000 Michel Talon wrote: > ... and X locks up at least once a day. Well, mine doesn't. > It is not > very difficult to understand why Ubuntu is massively gaining users, > while FreeBSD doesn't, and is now ranked position 22 on Distrowatch. Add together FreeBSD, PC-BSD and DesktopBSD - FreeBSD will then be at position 9. I am sure Ubuntu is a good system in many ways. But FreeBSD's position on DistroWatch is very impressive for a system that is not Linux, is not actively promoted, does not even attempt to be user-friendly ... and whose name does not mean a thing in any African language. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 09:46:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F80816A41A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kenneth@aspit.no) Received: from ex.aspit.no (81-31-235-95.net.nc-systems.no [81.31.235.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212D313C46B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:46:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kenneth@aspit.no) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {498953E9-1E54-446D-89E1-F6FBC260DE14} X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message x-cr-hashedpuzzle: ADCL A8A5 BM5b B6X1 Cex6 CxQD Dj45 Dzuj D3MK Ef9k IJVp JZaO Lcx5 LiLt Lwnw MVIR; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {498953E9-1E54-446D-89E1-F6FBC260DE14}; awBlAG4AbgBlAHQAaABAAGEAcwBwAGkAdAAuAG4AbwA=; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:33:28 GMT; cAB4AGUAIABpAG4AcwB0AGEAbABsACAAdwBpAHQAaAAgAGMAdQBzAHQAbwBtACAAawBlAHIAbgBlAGwA Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:33:28 +0200 Message-ID: <5581EE812CBAEF41B5A44E9667A40DD610780C@arnold.aspit.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: pxe install with custom kernel Thread-Index: AcfwaPtaEePSsP4zTkmjUnjXWgkdnw== From: "Kenneth Grande" To: Subject: pxe install with custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:46:11 -0000 i am installing clients with a PXE setup. I use a boot only iso (6.2-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso), and i unpack it and use it for installation, the setup is also unattended with an install.cfg file (I mounted the mfsroot.gz and made some adjustments) All this works fine, and the way i want it. now it looks like i have to make some kernel adjustments to suit my needs. I would like to install clients in the same way, it makes it very easy to make changes. The problem is that if do this i have to recompile the kernel on every system installed, and this is very time consuming. Since the hardware i am using is the same on all clients (ca 40 barebone computers), i was wondering if i perhaps can recompile one kernel, and use it during the pxe install. Is this possible, or does anyone else have a good idea on what i should do? Best regards, Kenneth Grande From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 10:56:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309FA16A420 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mario.lobo@ipad.com.br) Received: from recife.ipad.com.br (recife.ipadnet.com.br [200.249.204.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B30313C4B4 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mario.lobo@ipad.com.br) Received: from lobo.ipad.com.br ([192.168.64.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by recife.ipad.com.br (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l86Atsu9019277 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 07:55:55 -0300 From: Mario Lobo Organization: IPAD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:55:52 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46DFC33A.3090903@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46DFC33A.3090903@gmail.com> X-Face: "j9,S@~?m[/.]/lb=?utf-8?q?S=5D=2EI=0A=09ITlWP=3A-?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709061055.53315.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> Subject: Re: Burn ape music to CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:56:09 -0000 On Thursday 06 September 2007, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > > Hi, > > I have some ape music files ready to burn to CD, I first comvert them > > into wav file then use cdrecord, but I heard that this is not necessary, > > ape file can burn to CD directly, how is this achieved?? Can I play the > > CD in regular stereo?? thank you!! > > No, you can't. Audio CD is a specific format without compression, etc. > Either someone was using software which did ape decompression on the fly > or he was using a special device to read them. > > Cheers, > > Karol Yes, he can ! install /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b then install /usr/ports/audio/k3bmonkeyaudioplugin After that he will be able to drop .ape files directly into an audio project. -- ********************************************************** //| //| Mario Lobo // |// | http://www.ipad.com.br // // ||||||| FreeBSD since 2.2.8 - 100% Rwindows-free ********************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 10:58:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A62E16A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from javadik@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FCC13C49D for ; 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Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:03:00 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 04:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Sur Demir To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <46DEA08B.6060604@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <380859.90016.qm@web45213.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysinstall, packages, ports q.s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:03:35 -0000 --- Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Sur Demir wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I'm a bit new to FreeBSD, and have few questions challenging my > Gentoo > > Linux mindset: > > > > > Welcome to the FreeBSD club! [...] Hi, Thanks for your insightful and highly civilized (compared to Gentoo mob's) response! I'll spend more time with the docs which will definitely be easier to navigate with the hints you've provided. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 11:16:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A72A16A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CF513C46E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so264253pyb for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:16:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Wp/Cyzj2dSxU35FKK7nfKC3dtaVeMahhc9T1iMWr5+E=; b=ZU4tNLYHZRka6C+5Dehw+0HdDhbdn8pkbS5v1/3molRD9ZG4vpArdsnlyTwgvNubaQjFuM+5tvJNpJbM3zpXShxkEVxQ7wffj09ahfAtd84tY4T76OXSyyauxzKWw+BQcZzDfwcylhENPyMskx2c3cSDf9acf1CItArnOzm1S0M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DH2UZTEkTLmmO6SEz6h9rJU8geTG52D5mc0Pcw0597hm3+dKP4+zVuVzNNU68ddrtq0QE87ZC5a6F7suz2xn2fT0P/508+nWfd/Zpk40eWzEgzyqPRU7ORyiF2gDA41XJjZpQoZEiqsTScyT7cb2PxYPmii/dFupFSZMXj/bqcM= Received: by 10.65.20.18 with SMTP id x18mr863358qbi.1189076976194; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.208.1 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 04:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 07:09:36 -0400 From: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" To: "Mario Lobo" In-Reply-To: <200709061055.53315.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <46DFC33A.3090903@gmail.com> <200709061055.53315.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burn ape music to CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:16:54 -0000 thank you, but still is a little bit confusing.. XD TFC On 9/6/07, Mario Lobo wrote: > > On Thursday 06 September 2007, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > > Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I have some ape music files ready to burn to CD, I first comvert > them > > > into wav file then use cdrecord, but I heard that this is not > necessary, > > > ape file can burn to CD directly, how is this achieved?? Can I play > the > > > CD in regular stereo?? thank you!! > > > > No, you can't. Audio CD is a specific format without compression, etc. > > Either someone was using software which did ape decompression on the fly > > or he was using a special device to read them. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Karol > > Yes, he can ! > > install > /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b > > then install > /usr/ports/audio/k3bmonkeyaudioplugin > > After that he will be able to drop .ape files directly into an audio > project. > > -- > ********************************************************** > //| //| Mario Lobo > // |// | http://www.ipad.com.br > // // ||||||| FreeBSD since 2.2.8 - 100% Rwindows-free > ********************************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 11:43:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EE216A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karol.kwiat@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0F313C46C for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karol.kwiat@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so149430ugf for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:43:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; bh=tdgBErfYPQve7Ey15Ud666wOl5y1z2t0mPn+c8pr2DE=; b=DAZUO8usnUhr2osGOzI21msFceyLy1VzszvtG3RVq+lV83+/KNYJUgW73YioDqb6+15cndgkOlRtxqQQTwucJDevQfOCYuxI/w0/OUurN65glulkrbNXr4PKQe4z7Oeq4F2GjNyiYjFZ6Fm38gpqlGVKqb2i3H24csVX4guPcpg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=V/smsWOaxgp81YsNKm6gSYyMaP8UMdWKw4PqR/GTMI0C4BSLnEw4fRYjo3IKpn+v0Zx1R5/DdrtsDKklyTi9Wvjz6cVio197ixjec2B54CUzTZQYtMkVOVnF4VMHMaczSJiDIUccgFz+1Yy06h0WamMxkfK5i+qR7o7vb9euyJk= Received: by 10.67.32.13 with SMTP id k13mr96665ugj.1189078997130; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from persephone.orchid.homeunix.org ( [84.10.173.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm666906ugf.2007.09.06.04.43.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46DFE7CC.9060702@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:43:08 +0200 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070803) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mario Lobo References: <46DFC33A.3090903@gmail.com> <200709061055.53315.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> In-Reply-To: <200709061055.53315.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 OpenPGP: id=06E09309; url=http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8B9FFD9514F69CA4A51C3BE7" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burn ape music to CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: karol.kwiat@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:43:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8B9FFD9514F69CA4A51C3BE7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mario Lobo wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2007, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: >> Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I have some ape music files ready to burn to CD, I first comvert th= em >>> into wav file then use cdrecord, but I heard that this is not necessa= ry, >>> ape file can burn to CD directly, how is this achieved?? Can I play t= he >>> CD in regular stereo?? thank you!! >> No, you can't. Audio CD is a specific format without compression, etc.= >> Either someone was using software which did ape decompression on the f= ly >> or he was using a special device to read them. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Karol >=20 > Yes, he can ! >=20 > install > /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b >=20 > then install > /usr/ports/audio/k3bmonkeyaudioplugin >=20 > After that he will be able to drop .ape files directly into an audio pr= oject. An what will this plugin do? Decompress ape files on the fly, right? If I didn't write previous post clearly: Audio CD standard (Redd Book) requires certain data format on disc, which ape file is not. Thus, you can't write ape files on Audio CD. You can, however, use software which converts ape files into correct format in an invisible way to you. Do we agree? :) Cheers, Karol --=20 Karol Kwiatkowski OpenPGP 0x06E09309 --------------enig8B9FFD9514F69CA4A51C3BE7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBRt/n0ghgT0HIecD5AQjmPwf+OUjM5jGBQJbZkdPiU/3YEynx+x1Xr0J0 NiI4ZACR1BB6GE2JQh36cvM00Fe0AHUymqVkv5jgtpr+nyGyYXBEOhI3s9sd3B5Q 8tAda87pW9Z10IbSA9E1YPOXnJo03SYG1iFlxiD2Te/L4//+56enZDKZFz4pb1RB iNRyhDdekhHJYILgCHoC3sYI9bRgEMBSaRB/SKf37h3BLuVNX03WNxNB2xS/pXej Yaiq33dz9QoBFNkDsvLtx3FmAkJA6Sozirw+n7svdURcA75S5ae70j+LXtCRci8r ToNYKq9lHTfoaWLiUwB0hpaqMXjF70jop4pXKDg1mJG7pmbThLJ2wQ== =KGBZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8B9FFD9514F69CA4A51C3BE7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 11:54:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4D116A41A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mario.lobo@ipad.com.br) Received: from recife.ipad.com.br (recife.ipadnet.com.br [200.249.204.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6209713C4B4 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mario.lobo@ipad.com.br) Received: from lobo.ipad.com.br ([192.168.64.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by recife.ipad.com.br (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l86BsVu9025120 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:54:32 -0300 From: Mario Lobo Organization: IPAD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:54:30 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200709061055.53315.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> <46DFE7CC.9060702@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46DFE7CC.9060702@gmail.com> X-Face: "j9,S@~?m[/.]/lb=?utf-8?q?S=5D=2EI=0A=09ITlWP=3A-?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709061154.30882.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> Subject: Re: Burn ape music to CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:54:51 -0000 On Thursday 06 September 2007, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > Mario Lobo wrote: > > On Thursday 06 September 2007, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > >> Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> I have some ape music files ready to burn to CD, I first comvert them > >>> into wav file then use cdrecord, but I heard that this is not > >>> necessary, ape file can burn to CD directly, how is this achieved?? Can > >>> I play the CD in regular stereo?? thank you!! > >> > >> No, you can't. Audio CD is a specific format without compression, etc. > >> Either someone was using software which did ape decompression on the fly > >> or he was using a special device to read them. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Karol > > > > Yes, he can ! > > > > install > > /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b > > > > then install > > /usr/ports/audio/k3bmonkeyaudioplugin > > > > After that he will be able to drop .ape files directly into an audio > > project. > > An what will this plugin do? Decompress ape files on the fly, right? You're absolutely right ! > > If I didn't write previous post clearly: Audio CD standard (Redd Book) > requires certain data format on disc, which ape file is not. Thus, you > can't write ape files on Audio CD. > > You can, however, use software which converts ape files into correct > format in an invisible way to you. Do we agree? :) > Of course we do. Sorry if I didn't refer to you answer to Tsu completely. It was because i was focused on solving his problem first, but yes, you were right from the start. That is exactly what the monkey audio plugin does. > Cheers, > > Karol -- ********************************************************** //| //| Mario Lobo // |// | http://www.ipad.com.br // // ||||||| FreeBSD since 2.2.8 - 100% Rwindows-free ********************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:00:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E5C16A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4275A13C4A5 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (dpm.xs4all.nl [213.84.11.61]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l86BxrJh093591; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:59:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:59:52 +0200 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB19BCF7@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RAID Controller Recommendations: ARC-1210 or 9650SE-4LPML Thread-Index: AcfwE93mF0lkTusoTXyVaEapz9MsRQAaOi2g References: <26ddd1750709051621m439700e3v20f0e56c2a53f930@mail.gmail.com> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: "Maxim Khitrov" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: RAID Controller Recommendations: ARC-1210 or 9650SE-4LPML X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:00:08 -0000 RG8gbm90IGdvIGZvciB0aGUgYWRhcHRlYyAxMjEwIQ0KSSBoYXZlIHRoZSBzYW1lIG1vZGVsLCBh bmQgaXQgYWx3YXlzIGdpdmUgZXJyb3JzIG9uIC9kZXYvYWQ2IA0KDQpGaXJzdCBJIHRob3VnaHQg aXQgd2FzIHRoZSBkcml2ZSBpdHNlbGYgYnV0IGFmdGVyIHN3YXBwaW5nIHRoYXQgb25lIHdpdGgg IGFub3RoZXIgb25lIHN0aWxsIC9kZXYvYWQ2IGVycm9ycy4NCkFsc28gc3dhcHBpbmcgYWQ0IHRv IGFkNiAvZGV2L2FkNiBlcnJvcnMgb3V0IGFuZCBmcmVlemVzIHRoZSBzeXN0ZW0uDQoNCkxvbmcg c3Rvcnkgc2hvcnQgIGl0IGlzIGFuIHVuc3RhYmxlIHByb2R1Y3QgdW5kZXIgRnJlZUJTRCBDdXJy ZW50IGFuZCA2LngNCg0KSSB1c2UgYSAzd2FyZSBjYXJkIG5vdyBhbmQgbm8gcHJvYmxlbXMgd2hh dCBzbyBldmVyLg0KDQoNClJlZ2FyZHMsDQpKb2hhbg0KDQoNCg== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:02:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CC216A41A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabe@dragffy.com) Received: from pixeco.com (pixeco.com [216.70.123.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DA113C481 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabe@dragffy.com) Received: (qmail 30345 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2007 11:33:49 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.20?) (91.84.56.254) by pixeco.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2007 11:33:49 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <55A4B6CD-3951-4647-BEEA-E06315431BED@dragffy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gabriel Dragffy Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:33:42 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Hello X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:02:00 -0000 Dear list members. I just wanted to say hi to all of you. My name is Gabriel, and I have just been setting up a FreeBSD server at work, having moved from Linux. There are just a couple of things that aren't working quite as I would like, and I was hoping someone might be kind enough to help me out. I've been using the FreeBSD handbook, and I must say it is quite superb, and makes starting with FreeBSD much easier. Using sysinstall I enabled anonymous FTP, with uploads allowed in the folder /incoming. Uploading works a treat, however the files don't have permissions to be downloaded again (by anon user). I know I could change this by executing a cron job every two minutes that would chmod the files in /incoming. But surely there must be a far better way...? The FreeBSD handbook says it doesn't recommend allowing anon users to d/load files uploaded anonymously, however I would still like to implement this. I'd be very appreciative for any help. Best regards Gabriel Dragffy gabe@dragffy.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:12:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127B816A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mario.lobo@ipad.com.br) Received: from recife.ipad.com.br (recife.ipadnet.com.br [200.249.204.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1A213C442 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mario.lobo@ipad.com.br) Received: from lobo.ipad.com.br ([192.168.64.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by recife.ipad.com.br (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l86BMwu9021599; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:22:58 -0300 From: Mario Lobo Organization: IPAD To: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:22:56 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200709061055.53315.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> In-Reply-To: X-Face: "j9,S@~?m[/.]/lb=?utf-8?q?S=5D=2EI=0A=09ITlWP=3A-?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709061122.57466.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burn ape music to CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:12:18 -0000 On Thursday 06 September 2007, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > thank you, but still is a little bit confusing.. XD > > TFC > > > install > > /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b > > > > then install > > /usr/ports/audio/k3bmonkeyaudioplugin > > > > After that he will be able to drop .ape files directly into an audio > > project. If you have xorg+KDE(or GNOME,xfce,etc..), all you have to do is install the 2 ports above and you will be able to do what you want. Believe me ! k3d is an excellent app. It will burn ANYTHING. Dvds (any kind), Cds (any kind), data, audio,vcd,svcd,dvd movies, etc... -- ********************************************************** //| //| Mario Lobo // |// | http://www.ipad.com.br // // ||||||| FreeBSD since 2.2.8 - 100% Rwindows-free ********************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:17:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D7316A420 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karol.kwiat@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64B313C4A5 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karol.kwiat@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so152956ugf for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:17:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; bh=81+M45kWnEP05/CYOST2ozGI6j8ykvJRDzoM6YYB7KM=; b=punNIxHXEQkosJhGogK/zR0ws2S9XSLw28j+Etb9Ix9zg4khQzpuFyLGqOIVMSzc8He/f+aox3focfcxnAYvbf86xq5AcTokaF0qevuhjSelMKUnc/OihFrRqDZ6QS7XlL0C80LLNJY94c9xSsA+qgwTIq8RQaSeM1fJZY1V4Wo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; b=lObic+s+I2Rq3nHwJCm4dFLr8k9NdkdkGbHNpZJ8mvtyBIvLdvvWcDyFv3GTpd0wPn9120JGCWtbsyyk86gboYSBK5E+HVR3MGTbhMZsdRlArMwlCilOxaDmOgEKTqUNL5LZEB7YCDKzQXYzcEDgZEOq8CG6b9WUEf/zUYO3Beg= Received: by 10.67.30.3 with SMTP id h3mr123993ugj.1189081055716; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from persephone.orchid.homeunix.org ( [84.10.173.180]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j4sm663709ugf.2007.09.06.05.17.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46DFEFDC.2070907@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:17:32 +0200 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070803) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mario Lobo References: <200709061055.53315.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> <46DFE7CC.9060702@gmail.com> <200709061154.30882.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> In-Reply-To: <200709061154.30882.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 OpenPGP: id=06E09309; url=http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig850B237FA8E9BAD2A5AE5F3E" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burn ape music to CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: karol.kwiat@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:17:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig850B237FA8E9BAD2A5AE5F3E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mario Lobo wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2007, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: >> You can, however, use software which converts ape files into correct >> format in an invisible way to you. Do we agree? :) >> >=20 > Of course we do. Sorry if I didn't refer to you answer to Tsu completel= y. It=20 > was because i was focused on solving his problem first, but yes, you we= re=20 > right from the start. That is exactly what the monkey audio plugin doe= s. Now that I read the OP post again, maybe I misunderstood his question... All in all, problem solved :) Cheers, Karol --=20 Karol Kwiatkowski OpenPGP 0x06E09309 --------------enig850B237FA8E9BAD2A5AE5F3E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEVAwUBRt/v3AhgT0HIecD5AQgOoAf/TDwNfjkfye2FHVOlXmGEj3JU1HolEh38 Z+pBMJYZYAl3YSTF+0y02IihOWizo/GCWj6Pojw1I4V12Ff5oAMD0BunX21j9QfM PIH7i6j6bvEg+s3IFP/xviCP8jqTFrpyHHk38uWB+WaxVvGm+27rwBKcQ+IUKqtv hTOmdlCxYlGjQ6iPLCOsoC0jIwbFT2E5JKAJ8ISPBKutAKE16v/R8p2KWnBaCeqO 49PhZnQ0bGWAwwqC3KfQtaJCEqe2ttAct0OEcnJBKbzoIVZSo25OpK7SB08ALdlG Dh24nJHOs2J+BTNYZWaKn7rc695zeyw0zhAMPiWAgvwQQigkqfaQiw== =nFS1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig850B237FA8E9BAD2A5AE5F3E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:23:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFF716A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:23:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E672E13C45A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l86CMeFs064392; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:22:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Nikola Lecic" , "Jerry McAllister" Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:23:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200709051812.l85IC8I1024908@smtpclu-2.EUnet.yu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: Eray Aslan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:23:22 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikola Lecic > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:13 AM > To: Jerry McAllister > Cc: Eray Aslan; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions >=20 > I'm very disappointed that more official people on this list didn't = say > something like "Ted, please respect our users from all countries, > including those two countries you have mentioned"=20 Perhaps the silence might give you pause to consider? Very likely no one else considers themselves offended. Very likely that is because it was obvious to everyone else that no offense was ever intended. Very likely because everyone else also assumed that the idea of permitting non-nuclear states to buy nuclear warheads was universally regarded as a bad idea, and thus grasped the mailserver comparison instantly. Very likely because nobody understands what the problem is in the first place. That would include me, by the way. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:27:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EFC16A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAED13C46C for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l86CRgsR064426; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "David U" , Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:28:16 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <9dfd8cd50709050910g40f2911cqab8b7855e8c6997d@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: Subject: RE: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:27:45 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of David U > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:10 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... > > > > That is my job. The ONLY way to get someone to re-examine their > assumptions is to piss them off. > > What a breathtakingly arrogant ponce! > Arrogance is in the eye of the beholder, my friend. Lots of people think the current President of the US is an arrogant SOB. Lots of others think the people that think this are utter morons. > Perhaps THIS will piss YOU off enough to get you to reexamine YOUR > assumption. Nope, but it was good for a chuckle. Thanks! Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:36:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F6516A46D for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DC413C457 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:36:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k4so121134nfd for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:36:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=djAtV3tq0s+JPEjr37bxcIovmOMW0Q9PtqjpGY3beTI=; b=En+YmDR9Na8WqhcrO4s8POBVHA4RYTzm2gGY5EVh9+FxhIAsCYF5EalUgJ0a3xuCC/UtQ0RU8LCRALRJdfcJynxLlUF2OLIgww0B+DawzM51rhdJNNUxKNMLGKWfBD8CILe1Qoz9wCGR0dsU28Lsr+gBhDHZHXW3DaC4sjUDCR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OFW0mDRU18ZlSCF2iP38e8AB4QJhK/Firetu8b8f5CgDeqaHC5lEdhe7StTWb5VNv0KJ9AgWlx+x0asms/MO8FAo3JyLCqEMDAUwuA6dXXElhZ4wokpKKfDCZdFXelLyUaxzRKcEffU/iLlxx/xCuNwiqjbC/cP78adJVSAKOvo= Received: by 10.86.54.3 with SMTP id c3mr568491fga.1189082161011; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.9.7 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 07:36:00 -0500 From: "Andrew Gould" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9dfd8cd50709050910g40f2911cqab8b7855e8c6997d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: David U , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:36:03 -0000 On 9/6/07, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of David U > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:10 AM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... > > > > > > > That is my job. The ONLY way to get someone to re-examine their > > assumptions is to piss them off. > > > > What a breathtakingly arrogant ponce! > > > > Arrogance is in the eye of the beholder, my friend. > > Lots of people think the current President of the US is an > arrogant SOB. Lots of others think the people that think > this are utter morons. > > > Perhaps THIS will piss YOU off enough to get you to reexamine YOUR > > assumption. > > Nope, but it was good for a chuckle. Thanks! > > Ted > _______________________________________________ > The thread has degenerated to personal sparring. I think we're at a point where this discussion can be taken off-list without any of the rest of us missing critical content regarding FreeBSD. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:39:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E1616A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:39:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D0A13C48A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ITGe3-0003A2-Pe for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:39:39 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:39:39 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:39:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:39:16 +0200 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <20070905220310.6EF69258F8C@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC8D93A3DED53FBD0751B787B" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20060911) In-Reply-To: <20070905220310.6EF69258F8C@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.4.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Disk errors when copying X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:39:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC8D93A3DED53FBD0751B787B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard Tobin wrote: > When copy between disks (ad10 ->ad8), I get errors: >=20 > ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=3D435= 128800 > ad10: FAILURE - READ_DMA48 status=3D51 error=3D10 LBA=3D435128800 > g_vfs_done():ad10s2g[READ(offset=3D175562145792, length=3D131072)]error= =3D 5 >=20 > I don't get these errors just reading the data from ad10. Is this > some kind of system error rather than a bad disk? Is it a known proble= m? It doesn't match any recent known problem - it looks like a disk error.=20 You might want to pinpoint the file which causes it and skip that file.=20 Use sysutils/smartmontools to test and monitor the drive. --------------enigC8D93A3DED53FBD0751B787B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG3/T9ldnAQVacBcgRA25XAKDySnr3kQGRvZKIZlju7+1djXE9fwCg/EKc msTwUUmaQQvbsr+vnVzPwWA= =GDjM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC8D93A3DED53FBD0751B787B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:45:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B5216A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CFA13C46E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ITGjG-0003b5-Ah for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:45:02 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:45:02 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:45:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:41:24 +0200 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <46DEED0A.7000609@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig283B41C2FAD4E4B87AA70C7D" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20060911) In-Reply-To: <46DEED0A.7000609@lvor.halvorsen.cc> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.4.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Linuxulator and SSE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:45:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig283B41C2FAD4E4B87AA70C7D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > Hello, list! >=20 >=20 > I'm trying to get Bibble to run under the Linuxulator on FreeBSD, > but it keeps complaining about missing SSE support. What does the top of dmesg (generated during boot) tells you about the=20 processor? If it doesn't list "SSE" under the list of features, then=20 your processor doesn't support it. --------------enig283B41C2FAD4E4B87AA70C7D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG3/V0ldnAQVacBcgRA1yHAJ9mzxht9v1w+WJBoxtnbmUB/wxP/QCg57/r YTyzy6/claUUEpCfD/HsXms= =+VNU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig283B41C2FAD4E4B87AA70C7D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:48:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA94C16A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856AE13C46C for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so99971nzf for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:48:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Yl9WZc0z8RwZb+4acsftcmO+ldVAGk2e2r3lQ0ky9P8=; b=acUOcR8Ti+mX/whDHIeWCvBRTSEJ2rcSGBCm5lX3Ktd/uzjpPt+5bKSOLzF/szz3kqRfci36gmk0K4jCtgCLh9MMNTMR6t1PV6e5UnZoXvHcugXutkmm1KsFYaEKwExQO8oIHSp91IQ/0bpPFfyXblPUeTtu7F/HQ0Z0BrTHmmQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pTgtfhxftWOFz1pxjaxst/bOc9H+BYUIXNxS0uOoAfIzIX2HN7MoA6pIzwGYEqffmYNLvxBpJpyvKytblWcyV/zal7IQI/l0ZxFBrOEhk5TJR8vu8Las4M3O5SR3XyRDZar27UL8MMqgfpEag6nujwHsdMyx7fm7CJ15XepMti4= Received: by 10.65.98.12 with SMTP id a12mr1081308qbm.1189082922619; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.208.1 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:48:42 -0400 From: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" To: karol.kwiat@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <46DFEFDC.2070907@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200709061055.53315.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> <46DFE7CC.9060702@gmail.com> <200709061154.30882.mario.lobo@ipad.com.br> <46DFEFDC.2070907@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burn ape music to CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:48:44 -0000 thank you folks, TFC On 9/6/07, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > > Mario Lobo wrote: > > On Thursday 06 September 2007, Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > >> You can, however, use software which converts ape files into correct > >> format in an invisible way to you. Do we agree? :) > >> > > > > Of course we do. Sorry if I didn't refer to you answer to Tsu > completely. It > > was because i was focused on solving his problem first, but yes, you > were > > right from the start. That is exactly what the monkey audio plugin > does. > > Now that I read the OP post again, maybe I misunderstood his question... > All in all, problem solved :) > > Cheers, > > Karol > > -- > Karol Kwiatkowski > OpenPGP 0x06E09309 > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:50:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73BB16A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913DE13C458 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ITGo6-0003zp-Mc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:50:02 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:50:02 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:50:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:45:27 +0200 Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <46DECDBB.3000906@tundraware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB971E842BF1EEB87F725C4E4" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20060911) In-Reply-To: <46DECDBB.3000906@tundraware.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.4.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: 6.2 Hangs Probing Floppy During Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:50:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB971E842BF1EEB87F725C4E4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tim Daneliuk wrote: > During the boot probe, FreeBSD 6.2 (Release or -STABLE) hangs for sev= eral minutes > while probing the floppy. Eventually, it does get through it, but it= takes > a loooong time. Disabling the floppy in the machine BIOS makes the p= roblem > go away because FBSD sees no floppy to probe, but that's not an optim= al > soltion. Have you tried adding hint.fd.0.disabled=3D"1" and hint.fdc.0.disabled=3D= "1"=20 to your loader.conf (or device.hints)? I don't know it it will work,=20 it's just something you could try. --------------enigB971E842BF1EEB87F725C4E4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG3/ZnldnAQVacBcgRAw6lAJ9gBKIn1PWctQGX3uQ8aONdIYOPQgCaAxVD YdTZbrNN0CpUxVanvgZ2yn8= =wCxH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB971E842BF1EEB87F725C4E4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:55:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3189416A46C for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D420113C483 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ITGsx-0004TK-09 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:55:03 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:55:02 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:55:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:47:08 +0200 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <200709041643.51691.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig78BFB5EEDB2D690368ABC563" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20060911) In-Reply-To: <200709041643.51691.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.4.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: passwd(1), pam_ldap and old PRs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:55:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig78BFB5EEDB2D690368ABC563 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jonathan McKeown wrote: > There are two relevant PRs, one open (bin/71290)and one suspended (bin/= 59638). > ... You may want to try asking this on current@ and hackers@ lists. --------------enig78BFB5EEDB2D690368ABC563 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG3/bMldnAQVacBcgRA637AKCqISGVOJhheeWgVRwaGHwGb8/ITACg+K2b i76DUxG1ctQ7sQ7nKHq+Mfc= =zerE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig78BFB5EEDB2D690368ABC563-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 12:57:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBE216A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA41F13C459 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:57:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l86CvlQ8064611; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:57:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Eric" , "Andrey Shuvikov" Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:58:20 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <46DEFF76.4070701@mikestammer.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:57:49 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Eric > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:12 PM > To: Andrey Shuvikov > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > Andrey Shuvikov wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to set up a home mailserver with imap/web access. But I was > > going to use exim. Several people mentioned postfix here, but nobody > > named exim. Is it a matter of personal preference or is exim not > > suitable for this task? > > > > Exim is a capable mailer as is postfix. I think its mostly a matter of > preference but I havent delved into Exim too much. Personally I run > Postfix and Dovecot for my mail server setup. Roundcube does a nice job > in providing a front end on the web for Dovecot. > Roundcube has an interesting Macalike interface (Mac users love it) but it has it's problems. For one thing it doesen't display properly on many web browsers. Unfortunately, with webmail interfaces, you have to pick the problems you want to deal with, none of them are without warts. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 13:00:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FBC16A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24F213C45B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ITGxm-0004th-Bc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:00:02 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:00:02 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:00:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:57:06 +0200 Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <55A4B6CD-3951-4647-BEEA-E06315431BED@dragffy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigAA1BF95128760B995E4D597C" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20060911) In-Reply-To: <55A4B6CD-3951-4647-BEEA-E06315431BED@dragffy.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.4.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: Hello X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:00:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigAA1BF95128760B995E4D597C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Using sysinstall I enabled anonymous FTP, with uploads allowed in the=20 > folder /incoming. Uploading works a treat, however the files don't have= =20 > permissions to be downloaded again (by anon user). I know I could chang= e=20 > this by executing a cron job every two minutes that would chmod the=20 > files in /incoming. But surely there must be a far better way...? The=20 > FreeBSD handbook says it doesn't recommend allowing anon users to d/loa= d=20 > files uploaded anonymously, however I would still like to implement thi= s. >=20 > I'd be very appreciative for any help. Hi, Have you seen the manual for ftpd(8)? It's available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dftpd You can change the flags passed to ftpd in your inetd.conf (if you=20 enabled ftpd this way) or in rc.conf (which is another, but different=20 way to do it). If you don't know these config files, see the respective=20 manuals. --------------enigAA1BF95128760B995E4D597C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG3/kildnAQVacBcgRA+fmAKDA+4JnQ4cceXMwJd49xX88GWwbKgCgzxBy 1F/gjXtuJhrYvDcfYVl6fiw= =Ppdy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigAA1BF95128760B995E4D597C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 13:01:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FC816A47B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C2413C468 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from Lowell-Desk.lan (Lowell-Desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4BF28426; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:46:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Lowell-Desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 3317F1CC97; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:46:20 -0400 (EDT) To: alexus References: <6ae50c2d0709050757s7954b953q55008f5811622fd6@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:46:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0709050757s7954b953q55008f5811622fd6@mail.gmail.com> (alexus@gmail.com's message of "Wed\, 5 Sep 2007 10\:57\:21 -0400") Message-ID: <44ejhc0xno.fsf@Lowell-Desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.99 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba / remote windows machine / nagios X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:01:42 -0000 alexus writes: > does anyone knows how i can monitor for a date file on a remote > windows machine from my freebsd through samba client i guess, so > result can be reported to nagios? I can't think of a way to be automatically notified, so you would need to check the file periodically. cron is a good way if you're not checking too often; otherwise you're better off with a daemon (a looping script, even). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 13:26:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDAE16A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@elgert.dk) Received: from pfepc.post.tele.dk (pfepc.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400D413C46A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@elgert.dk) Received: from elgert.dk (0x573c4c6f.nivaanqu1.broadband.tele.dk [87.60.76.111]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 574948A0025; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:26:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elgert.dk (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:26:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:26:20 +0200 From: Harry Matthiesen Jensen To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070906132620.GA894@mugin.localhost> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <6e4453640709052135k61dc4097nb79c03e4672e5489@mail.gmail.com> <46DFA25F.7000504@math.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46DFA25F.7000504@math.arizona.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: Canon A620, FreeBSD and gphoto2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:26:23 -0000 On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 11:46:55PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > Note you might not need to go to PTP mode for your particular camera! Actually, if you just issue "gphoto2 --list-cameras", you will see: "Canon PowerShot A620 (PTP mode)" ..so PTP should work. > > If that fail then you can use cheap card reader which are well detected > by FreeBSD. Yep, last resort ;-) Brgds Harry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 14:01:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C9416A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:01:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D75A13C457 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:01:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from lack-of-gravitas.thebunker.net (gateway.ash.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l86E1MXq040190 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:01:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1189087288; bh=Cz8YzZYG61s7k/ TQ6edvsP/R4uXgRuPJfj983PW0iU0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Organization: User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc: Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version: References:To; b=OyXRXYPXPrX/Ja4IckbXNFdhmkwo8zyUQ2rhZp3/jq5Vp8//R t9ZR5cWFWF38hZr7buh9q6fKWEuR0nKGpBiZA7m6Z9E9xa4MlCk3p5CbLNuzKEfuIhT Lif2ojjB97ST/AKAQffG5BsMHszU7I10JSHzqYsGJHK/dwzrvl3p/5w= Message-ID: <46E00832.9050309@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:01:22 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070807) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabriel Dragffy References: <55A4B6CD-3951-4647-BEEA-E06315431BED@dragffy.com> In-Reply-To: <55A4B6CD-3951-4647-BEEA-E06315431BED@dragffy.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]); Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:01:28 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/4170/Thu Sep 6 05:30:09 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hello X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:01:40 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Using sysinstall I enabled anonymous FTP, with uploads allowed in the > folder /incoming. Uploading works a treat, however the files don't have > permissions to be downloaded again (by anon user). I know I could change > this by executing a cron job every two minutes that would chmod the > files in /incoming. But surely there must be a far better way...? The > FreeBSD handbook says it doesn't recommend allowing anon users to d/load > files uploaded anonymously, however I would still like to implement this. The idea here is to stop your FTP server being used as a warez site. So the script kiddies cannot upload their cracked software and dubious copies of this that and the other and then send all their little friends along to download that stuff from you. Leave a mis-configured FTP server on the net and it will be discovered and used for this purpose within a week or so. The best approaches are these: i) Don't use FTP at all. FTP is an archaic protocol, hard to firewall correctly and that sends passwords across the net in plain text. The secure version 'FTPS' is not supported by the ftpd in the base system. Instead consider such things as SFTP (which is an SSH client which behaves like FTP), WebDAV over HTTPS (HTTP PUT) or a form based upload CGI script (HTTP POST), rsync over SSH. etc. ii) If you have to use FTP, then create individual user FTP accounts so you have some accountability as to who is doing what. Run the FTP service in a chroot or jail and make sure the FTP password file is distinct from the normal password file. iii) If you have to provide incoming anonymous FTP then don't automatically make any uploaded files available for download. Task a person with reviewing what was uploaded and then moving it into an appropriate place in your filesystem where it can be downloaded from. Again, be sure to run FTP chroot'ed or jailed. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG4Agy3jDkPpsZ+VYRA2V3AKCMzwid9H5W1dY2FkwVdLyZvVq31wCgjgFp 4p0qDnF185J4kqNvxxUd/nw= =NOgu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 14:24:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5EA16A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-03.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-03.bluehost.com [69.89.21.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AADFB13C45A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 30035 invoked by uid 0); 6 Sep 2007 14:24:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2007 14:24:32 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ITIHX-0007Ot-Qj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:24:31 -0600 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l85Gi74k094830 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:44:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l85Gi6aI094829 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:44:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:44:06 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070905164406.GB94723@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> <20070905155804.GE25281@ayvali.org> <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> <54db43990709051352g2e5f8e14xc2e04b032f7efc76@mail.gmail.com> <20070906113711.1927d1cb@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070906113711.1927d1cb@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:24:52 -0000 On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 11:37:11AM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:52:56 -0400 > "Bob Johnson" wrote: > > > In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a passion. I > > suppose it is suitable for people who like puzzles (as in "What > > patches do I need to make this do something useful?" or "What > > third-party tool do I need to make sense out of these awful log > > files?") and who don't mind inflicting lots of unnecessary secondary > > spam on the rest of the world. Yes, I know there are _supposed_ to be > > patches that fix that problem, but (a) the one I've seen in action > > doesn't work very well, and (b) you shouldn't need to apply > > third-party patches to your mail server to make it do what it is > > supposed to do in the first place. > > I second all these points. I think it's probably better to use sendmail than > qmail. Sendmail at least supports most (all?) SMTP / antispam related features, > it is well documented , and configurable to the extreme (with the caveat that > its configuration may be a bit daunting to the un-initiated :D). > > I just realised that qmail appears over and over in Linux distros, or at least > on linux servers i've had to suffer... not sure the relationship there (in > design / philosophy...)... and I am really NOT wanting to start a flame war. > Just a thought that crossed my mind as I was reading this thread. I haven't seen enough production FreeBSD systems set up by others to have any impressions about whether Linux admins are more likely to use Qmail than FreeBSD admins. I do get the impression, however, that the Linux admins who choose Qmail tend to do so for much the same reason that MS Windows admins choose Exchange: they think it's easier, that setting it up is just a plug-and-play, point-and-click sort of exercise. The fact that it's sending and receiving emails within a couple hours (starting from a clean box) seems to be the sum total of their metric for ease of setup, and all the hassle and annoyance that follows doesn't even enter into it. Just as MS Exchange basically requires its own admin, but nobody cares for purposes of judging how "easy" it is as long as the thing is minimally running within a couple hours, Qmail is an invitation for disaster -- but nobody cares as long as they can judge it by its security and stability statistics in a default (if essentially useless) configuration, and as long as they can configure it via some kind of point-and-click web interface. That's my experience, anyway. If Qmail is more common among Linux admins, I tend to guess Webmin probably is as well. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] McCloctnick the Lucid: "The first rule of magic is simple. Don't waste your time waving your hands and hopping when a rock or a club will do." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 14:27:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9322116A420 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-40.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-40.bluehost.com [69.89.20.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 646EF13C4A6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 7132 invoked by uid 0); 6 Sep 2007 14:27:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2007 14:27:22 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ITIKH-0007qq-Ol for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:27:22 -0600 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l85GkvtE094857 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:46:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l85GkuB2094856 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:46:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:46:56 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070905164656.GC94723@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200709051812.l85IC8I1024908@smtpclu-2.EUnet.yu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:27:30 -0000 On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 05:23:13AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikola Lecic > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:13 AM > > To: Jerry McAllister > > Cc: Eray Aslan; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt > > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > > > > > I'm very disappointed that more official people on this list didn't say > > something like "Ted, please respect our users from all countries, > > including those two countries you have mentioned" > > Perhaps the silence might give you pause to consider? > > Very likely no one else considers themselves offended. > > Very likely that is because it was obvious to everyone else > that no offense was ever intended. > > Very likely because everyone else also assumed that the idea > of permitting non-nuclear states to buy nuclear warheads was > universally regarded as a bad idea, and thus grasped the > mailserver comparison instantly. > > Very likely because nobody understands what the problem > is in the first place. That would include me, by the way. . . . or maybe it's because this line of discussion looks ridiculous from both sides. Seriously. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] W. Somerset Maugham: "The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:06:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181C316A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mesiob.obspm.fr (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8924013C47E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from localhost (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.2.126]) by mesiob.obspm.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris) with ESMTP id l86F62dt009232 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:06:02 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:06:02 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]); Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:06:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on mesiob.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: bash on login. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:06:05 -0000 Hi all I'm using bash for standard shell, what I don't understand is when I'm connect by ssh on my server the bash don't parse .bashrc file. But if in the bash session I type «bash» this time the .bashrc is use. How can I make the .bashrc file is read when I connect by ssh ? Regards. -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26 Heure local/Local time: Jeu 6 sep 2007 17:03:26 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:10:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCA616A420 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [81.2.252.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74C013C48D for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1EAA4A328; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:09:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id lI+QaBhCB0VD; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:09:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.186] (catv-5063f539.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.245.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F12A4A322; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:09:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <46E01827.5090200@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:09:27 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr References: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> In-Reply-To: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash on login. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:10:06 -0000 Albert Shih escribió: > Hi all > > I'm using bash for standard shell, what I don't understand is when I'm > connect by ssh on my server the bash don't parse .bashrc file. > > But if in the bash session I type «bash» this time the .bashrc is use. > > How can I make the .bashrc file is read when I connect by ssh ? > > I'm not sure in the concrete answer, but you can use ~/.profile, it is processed for me when logging in. Regards, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: gabor@FreeBSD.org .:|:. gabor@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:11:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2630A16A41A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C824913C483 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tuxgirl@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so129232nzf for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:11:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=DpaS5yCh6+/VUgt3ISu3APZyAuHyo9NFgP7pzs/UnXk=; b=ML+Q8JfZrxnRQuG0x3IR8A1m5SYnoYX7HDhYuTa5Fg8XluWv1lcgdZCIZq6nHLUCOwqkU+O7BWpXQy3GWHqLICZ3jVa0sZY3Z6lBYzVpt70wb4ZhsCsDNC9hcb75JqR0wk1TEZx8UUH1M/iDI+mk2Q5mZ6AlX1bzBhCzJ8SLTuw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bMBmzxCpEGtH0cX+0NmAmO4fDxdYQh9U42kfvXMxzKXFZLdI6p33AkD77cabCbWegRq2fzONXUX3eApoDsHaJSwhT8J8/Y0zlZd7vVvpp7DCa/1VlXpYAEnxBcfQCpcxdbpSARiva8RiE3guvE38LanN3gcAGsvRB+U9i5Zm/10= Received: by 10.142.242.8 with SMTP id p8mr34496wfh.1189091460576; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.163.14 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6e4453640709060811k46a13192hf68e50428b72a5d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:11:00 -0700 From: "Erin McNew" To: "Predrag Punosevac" , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <46DFA25F.7000504@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6e4453640709052135k61dc4097nb79c03e4672e5489@mail.gmail.com> <46DFA25F.7000504@math.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Canon A620, FreeBSD and gphoto2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:11:11 -0000 Thank you for the suggestions. I did try mounting the camera, but since I had to use gphoto2 in linux, I figured I'd probably need to do so in freebsd as well. It gave me the message saying it required a block device. I do not quite know what you mean about switching my camera to PTP mode. I did not need to do anything special under Linux, but I will google a bit to see what I can figure out related to that. I will look into your suggestions a bit more closely tonight when I get back home. If I'm understanding your explanation correctly, the fact that my camera is showing up as ugen0 instead of usb0 is not a problem, correct? Thanks! ~Erin On 9/5/07, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > You should try to mount your camera manually first as > su - > password > mount_msdosfs /dev/ugen0 /mnt > > If you can not read the camera only then you should use gphoto2 but > logged as a supper user to avoid > permission problems. If that fails i.e. if you get the message BLOCK > DEVICE RECUIRED you > should try to use gphoto2. > > This is step by step for my Sony Cyber-Shot W70 > 1. Change into PTP mode on camera > 2. Go to su mode (this can be avoided but I left it so that my wife > cannot mess with it) > 3. gphoto2 --auto-detect will list your camera as Sony DSC-F707V (PTP > mode) usb: > 4. gphoto2 --help to get various commands > 5 gphoto2 --L will list all the files in numerical order > 6 gphoto2 --get-file=NUMBER Range (will get you files in that range) > 7 WARNING you may need to issue the commands some time multiple times > because > they fail. The following message is not uncommon > *** Error *** > > Note you might not need to go to PTP mode for your particular camera! > > If that fail then you can use cheap card reader which are well detected > by FreeBSD. > > There is an excellent thread that you can review > http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=12015&page=7&pp=15 > > maybe somebody left specific details for you camera but I think I gave > you a big push:-) > > Please let me know how it goes. > > Predrag > > > > Erin McNew wrote: > > I'm trying to get my Canon A620 camera to work with gphoto2 under > FreeBSD. > > > > dmesg is telling me that my camera is /dev/ugen0. > > > > [osiris temp] gphoto2 --list-ports > > Devices found: > > 2 > > Path Description > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ptpip: PTP/IP Connection > > usb: Universal Serial Bus > > > > [osiris temp] gphoto2 --port /dev/ugen0 -P > > *** Error *** > > An error occurred in the io-library ('I/O problem'): Failed to open > > '/dev/ugen0' (m). > > *** Error (-7: 'I/O problem') *** > > > > [osiris temp] gphoto2 -L > > > > 1 > > *** Error *** > > An error occurred in the io-library ('Bad parameters'): Could not find > USB > > device (vendor 0x4a9, product 0x30fc). Make sure this device is > connected to > > the computer. > > *** Error (-2: 'Bad parameters') *** > > > > I tried using --debug, but it didn't seem to give me that much more > detail, > > at least that I could understand. I also tried specifying the port as > "usb" > > and the camera as "Canon PowerShot A620 (PTP mode)" (as specified in > gphoto2 > > --list-cameras). None of this worked. Each gave me the "bad > parameters" > > error, which is slightly frustrating. > > > > I believe that this could be due to the fact that the camera is being > seen > > as ugen0 instead of usb. Is there a way to cause it to be seen as usb? > > > > Thanks! > > ~Erin > > > > > > > > > > -- http://www.tuxgirl.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:11:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42B616A46C for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5C513C4F2 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l86F62Yi036385; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:06:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l86F62MZ036384; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:06:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:06:02 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Gabriel Dragffy Message-ID: <20070906150602.GC36166@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <55A4B6CD-3951-4647-BEEA-E06315431BED@dragffy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55A4B6CD-3951-4647-BEEA-E06315431BED@dragffy.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hello X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:11:31 -0000 On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 12:33:42PM +0100, Gabriel Dragffy wrote: > Dear list members. > > I just wanted to say hi to all of you. My name is Gabriel, and I have > just been setting up a FreeBSD server at work, having moved from Linux. > > There are just a couple of things that aren't working quite as I > would like, and I was hoping someone might be kind enough to help me > out. I've been using the FreeBSD handbook, and I must say it is quite > superb, and makes starting with FreeBSD much easier. > > Using sysinstall I enabled anonymous FTP, with uploads allowed in the > folder /incoming. Uploading works a treat, however the files don't > have permissions to be downloaded again (by anon user). I know I > could change this by executing a cron job every two minutes that > would chmod the files in /incoming. But surely there must be a far > better way...? The FreeBSD handbook says it doesn't recommend > allowing anon users to d/load files uploaded anonymously, however I > would still like to implement this. What they are trying to do is reduce the chance that a SM will create a system where anyone in the world can upload stuff and then, without any checking of the stuff, anyone in the world can download it. Eg. They are trying to force you to at least notice the file before making it available for download. This is to reduce the incidence of evil minded creatures using your machine for their despicable plots of distributing dangerous files and software around the net. So, what you are supposed to do is make two separate directories - one for upload and one for download. Then you check each uploaded file for mal-ware before moving it to the download space with the needed permissions. You can use the same directory, but do not leave out the step of checking the file content before setting permissions to allow download. But, it is better to use separate directories so people doing a download don't have to wade through the swamp of uploaded, and not approved/checked stuff. Of course, some people will point out that FTP is on the outs now anyway and will recommend other ways of doing things. Pay attention to that. But, sometimes FTP still fills a need. ////jerry > > I'd be very appreciative for any help. > > Best regards > > Gabriel Dragffy > > gabe@dragffy.com > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:13:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D1D16A420 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EEF13C474 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l86FDPfi020963; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:13:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070906101228.026cb0e8@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:13:03 -0500 To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: bash on login. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:13:43 -0000 At 10:06 AM 9/6/2007, Albert Shih wrote: >Hi all > >I'm using bash for standard shell, what I don't understand is when I'm >connect by ssh on my server the bash don't parse .bashrc file. > >But if in the bash session I type =ABbash=BB this time the .bashrc is use. > >How can I make the .bashrc file is read when I connect by ssh ? > >Regards. > >-- It may be an option in your ssh client. Have you checked there? -Derek --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:15:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B9916A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from royk.itea.ntnu.no (royk.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.190.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5FF13C469 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by royk.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED1766CB3; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:15:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [129.241.211.42] (karius.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.42]) by royk.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:15:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <46E01999.3030301@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:15:37 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060613) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <46DEED0A.7000609@lvor.halvorsen.cc> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linuxulator and SSE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:15:41 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: >> Hello, list! >> >> >> I'm trying to get Bibble to run under the Linuxulator on FreeBSD, >> but it keeps complaining about missing SSE support. > > What does the top of dmesg (generated during boot) tells you about the > processor? If it doesn't list "SSE" under the list of features, then > your processor doesn't support it. > SSE should be supported. It says: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1200MHz (1196.12-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x695 Stepping = 5 Features=0xa7e9f9bf Features2=0x180 real memory = 661118976 (630 MB) avail memory = 637620224 (608 MB) Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:25:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D68816A41A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mesiob.obspm.fr (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CBF13C49D for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:25:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from localhost (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.2.126]) by mesiob.obspm.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris) with ESMTP id l86FPt3M017367; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:25:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:25:55 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: Gabor Kovesdan Message-ID: <20070906152555.GF61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> <46E01827.5090200@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <46E01827.5090200@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]); Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:25:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on mesiob.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash on login. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:25:56 -0000 Le 06/09/2007 à 17:09:27+0200, Gabor Kovesdan a écrit > Albert Shih escribió: >> Hi all >> >> I'm using bash for standard shell, what I don't understand is when I'm >> connect by ssh on my server the bash don't parse .bashrc file. >> But if in the bash session I type «bash» this time the .bashrc is use. >> How can I make the .bashrc file is read when I connect by ssh ? >> >> > I'm not sure in the concrete answer, but you can use ~/.profile, it is > processed for me when logging in. Lots of thanks. It's work...I've put source .bashrc at the end of my ~/.profile Regards. -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26 Heure local/Local time: Jeu 6 sep 2007 17:25:27 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:31:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A103E16A468 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A47113C465 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile.ondsl.gr [83.235.244.135]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-8) with ESMTP id l86FVavR021433 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:31:44 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l86FVK9Q002740; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:31:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l86FVKpX002739; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:31:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:31:19 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Albert Shih Message-ID: <20070906153119.GB2498@kobe.laptop> References: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.958, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.44, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash on login. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:31:52 -0000 On 2007-09-06 17:06, Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all > I'm using bash for standard shell, what I don't understand is when I'm > connect by ssh on my server the bash don't parse .bashrc file. Because .bashrc is not loaded by login shells. Read the manpage of bash(1) for more details, and make sure you pay A LOT of attention to the ``INVOCATION'' section: When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a non-interactive shell with the --login option, it first reads and executes commands from the file /etc/profile, if that file exists. After reading that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that exists and is readable. The --noprofile option may be used when the shell is started to inhibit this behavior. When a login shell exits, bash reads and executes commands from the file ~/.bash_logout, if it exists. When an interactive shell that is not a login shell is started, bash reads and executes commands from ~/.bashrc, if that file exists. This may be inhibited by using the --norc option. The --rcfile file option will force bash to read and execute commands from file instead of ~/.bashrc. > But if in the bash session I type «bash» this time the .bashrc is use. Yes. This is no longer a login shell. It's merely an interactive shell, so bash ignores .bash_profile and reads .bashrc instead. > How can I make the .bashrc file is read when I connect by ssh ? My preferred setup uses both files. The .bash_profile file acts solely as a 'delegation script', which loads all my preferences from .bashrc. The full contents of my .bashrcc file are something like this: test -f ~/.bashrc && . ~/.bashrc true All my preferences, options, environment variables, and other bash configuration is stored in ~/.bashrc. This way both login shells and interactive shells use precisely the same environment. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:32:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D0916A513 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6353713C45D for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=61296) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ITJKn-0006BL-5o; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:31:57 +0800 Message-ID: <46E01E63.9000205@adempiere.org> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:06:03 +0330 From: "Bahman M." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr References: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> In-Reply-To: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash on login. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:32:01 -0000 Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all > > I'm using bash for standard shell, what I don't understand is when I'm > connect by ssh on my server the bash don't parse .bashrc file. > > But if in the bash session I type �bash� this time the .bashrc is use. > > How can I make the .bashrc file is read when I connect by ssh ? SSH runs bash as a login shell and in that mode, bash doesn't execute .bashrc (see man 1 bash). One solution is to put the following in ~/.bash_profile. if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc fi Bahman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:36:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6DA16A41A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1CD13C468 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:36:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B552806A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by slider.shadypond.com (postoffice) with ESMTP id 3F7EEB67AC for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:35:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:35:49 +0000 References: <46DFC33A.3090903@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46DFC33A.3090903@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709061535.49148.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: Burn ape music to CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:36:03 -0000 I was waiting for someone else to ask, but nobody has, so here goes... What is "ape music"? I take it there is nothing simian about it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:39:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FF816A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout.easydns.com [205.210.42.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EA613C45E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9DD8187 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by slider.shadypond.com (postoffice) with ESMTP id 4766BB67AC for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:39:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:38:38 +0000 References: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> In-Reply-To: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709061538.38596.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: bash on login. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:39:04 -0000 On Thursday 06 September 2007 15:06:02 Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all > > I'm using bash for standard shell, what I don't understand is when I'm > connect by ssh on my server the bash don't parse .bashrc file. > > But if in the bash session I type =ABbash=BB this time the .bashrc is use. > > How can I make the .bashrc file is read when I connect by ssh ? I source it in ~/.bash_profile: # include .bashrc if it exists if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc fi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:40:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2672116A420 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C557813C46A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so75569wra for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:40:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=JQA1gPqRZeIWL8eUKQzW06E76yJZ3dWNZACv4pE3ReM=; b=o45OHAyj0k7O9mtWqmijN5RDMesRdskSNoJfUDzmn3CGUq7fbZU8m5GTHIoOOsmeFLdmCGrMozFI6wQDHdcCOq5y5Dvp/gQwaxn0E6mnRf4C2sZCsoTx09adyTv6S3KBVMC6MukKn1um07iiMQ3e/R/Bpj33VqgMxhjzsS2AQk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DioVXHkmGLHnzOSUarMbP6qeTksNMUvr/bkRlwKI5FwpqYBc0ziTPEjcJnRBbiVg0+TAJjWfRtq3d+Z6TfOLSq1d5aYbGL7yUIiIgcrC5mCmVfH0bymRHAVWmiz/UZh917aGgmjPFr1c9ZDb55FHyRgHYV4wY7vQPc792EvefCs= Received: by 10.142.245.10 with SMTP id s10mr36383wfh.1189093206314; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.80.8 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54db43990709060840w6ffb6613x7d5077f87ff00f99@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:40:05 -0400 From: "Bob Johnson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070905164406.GB94723@demeter.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <80f4f2b20709041503g3b3f85d1oa6a09b110ac31d7b@mail.gmail.com> <20070905155804.GE25281@ayvali.org> <24393ae80709051205j211b7ae4p54ea2f9d94b3c5e3@mail.gmail.com> <54db43990709051352g2e5f8e14xc2e04b032f7efc76@mail.gmail.com> <20070906113711.1927d1cb@localhost> <20070905164406.GB94723@demeter.hydra> Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:40:09 -0000 On 9/5/07, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 11:37:11AM +1000, Norberto Meijome wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:52:56 -0400 > > "Bob Johnson" wrote: > > > > > In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a passion. [...] > > > > I just realised that qmail appears over and over in Linux distros, or at > least > > on linux servers i've had to suffer... not sure the relationship there (in > > design / philosophy...)... and I am really NOT wanting to start a flame > war. > > Just a thought that crossed my mind as I was reading this thread. About five or seven years ago when sendmail was having a lot of security problems and people were looking for alternatives, qmail was reasonably well established and was widely recommended. So a lot of people switched to it (including the place where I now work), including several Linux distros. We were never very happy with it here, and I suspect that the reason it has such a following in the Linux world is either that they have never used an alternative (same reason Windows has so many fans), or to abandon it and move to something else would cause a sort of cognitive dissonance that prevents it from happening. > > I haven't seen enough production FreeBSD systems set up by others to have > any impressions about whether Linux admins are more likely to use Qmail > than FreeBSD admins. I do get the impression, however, that the Linux > admins who choose Qmail tend to do so for much the same reason that MS > Windows admins choose Exchange: they think it's easier, that setting it > up is just a plug-and-play, point-and-click sort of exercise. The fact > that it's sending and receiving emails within a couple hours (starting > from a clean box) seems to be the sum total of their metric for ease of > setup, and all the hassle and annoyance that follows doesn't even enter > into it. For those people I recommend Courier. It was designed to be a drop-in replacement for Qmail, but without most of the flaws. The configuration files, for instance, are mostly the same. The biggest problem I've had when configuring Courier is that it tends to be overly determined to enforce RFC compliance and thus will not be friendly toward a lot of mail from various MS products. Find the configuration flag that turns off that behavior or users will complain about the results. The author makes a reasonable case for the default behavior (to do otherwise forces Courier to be non-compliant itself), but in the real world you have to be able to accept mail from MS products. I have used Courier at my previous job (about 200 users) and at home and I have no significant complaints. If you just need a basic server that will handle your personal email without requiring you to learn what amounts to a new programming language (as with Exim and a few others), it's a good choice. The full distribution includes a POP/IMAP server and a webmail system. Just be sure not to skip the README file, and follow the instructions for testing your installation step-by-step. I have NOT tried to set up intensive anti-spam measures on Courier, so I don't know what problems may be in store there, but I'm sure there is info at http://www.courier-mta.org I'm not really as evangelistic for Courier as I sound. As long as you stay away from Qmail you will probably be happy with whatever you use. I do recommend that you use something that supports Maildir style mailboxes, though. - Bob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:52:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944CD16A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca) Received: from electra.cc.umanitoba.ca (electra.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.16.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6342413C491 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca) Received: from brisbane.nepharia.org (wnpgmb02dc1-60-120.dynamic.mts.net [207.161.60.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by electra.cc.umanitoba.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l86FqhV8013216 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:52:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: by brisbane.nepharia.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:52:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:52:42 -0500 From: Mak Kolybabi To: Pollywog Message-ID: <20070906155242.GA16749@brisbane> References: <46DFC33A.3090903@gmail.com> <200709061535.49148.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200709061535.49148.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burn ape music to CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:52:54 -0000 On 2007-09-06 15:35, Pollywog wrote: > What is "ape music"? I take it there is nothing simian about it. "Monkey's Audio is a file format for audio data compression. Being a lossless compression format, Monkey's Audio does not remove information from the audio stream, as lossy compression formats such as MP3, AAC, and Vorbis do." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey%27s_Audio -- Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:53:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD6E16A46B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7129D13C45B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4DC1CCA6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 07:53:14 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:39:41 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> In-Reply-To: <20070906150602.GE61602@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709061739.41650.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: bash on login. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:53:17 -0000 On Thursday 06 September 2007 17:06:02 Albert Shih wrote: > I'm using bash for standard shell, what I don't understand is when I'm > connect by ssh on my server the bash don't parse .bashrc file. man bash, section INVOCATION: A login shell is one whose first character of argument zero is a -, or one started with the --login option. An interactive shell is one started without non-option arguments and without the -c option whose standard input and error are both connected to terminals (as determined by isatty(3)), or one started with the -i option. PS1 is set and $- includes i if bash is interactive, allowing a shell script or a startup file to test this state. ... When an interactive shell that is not a login shell is started, bash reads and executes commands from ~/.bashrc, if that file exists. This may be inhibited by using the --norc option. The --rcfile file option will force bash to read and execute commands from file instead of ~/.bashrc. Ssh is a login shell. For most practical uses: cat ~/.bashrc >> ~/.bash_profile && rm -f ~/.bashrc and live happily ever after. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 15:53:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A506116A46C for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737C013C45D for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFFA1CCD0 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 07:53:15 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:53:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46DEED0A.7000609@lvor.halvorsen.cc> In-Reply-To: <46DEED0A.7000609@lvor.halvorsen.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709061753.12902.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: Linuxulator and SSE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:53:17 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 19:53:14 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > $ sysctl hw.instruction_sse > hw.instruction_sse: 1 ... > flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca > cmov pat b19 b21 mmxext mmx fxsr xmm b26 b29 3dnow ^^^^^ I found that weird. Filing a PR is a good idea, as it looks like your sse is detected as 3dnow in linux emulator. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 16:20:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407BC16A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mymailfloods@googlemail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0139513C46B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mymailfloods@googlemail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so144768nzf for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:20:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=NbcGQJB9YNmqGJZ4vZKCT/zkt8O37GbdbEh3d1W+Ygc=; b=HWWug/vkXnomddKWfazqirWOYjnLqfnn4XqoGYVxPH8OaweO3zXG9qitrqHEP2yL9JKH1GTyIG9UUdVKKV0e7uvAPXdGVguBa+daughYO9GJgiXt4zIhw2GBCNG7TbeNBli45L3pRunVdJ4NRaJK4+7DoB+VmDkpvFpQsppBnwo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=oeHkrklvc5V2eep4JPCPYPlwQwIJVXcSvcmyBpd034vJZzpllIYVLdAo6tBr1QuehbEBHwLB736QugHxBeQXa7cAk5apnsI2X+hYI+nCDgUdufQWaxjta8OLLAIKyNbT6EvfhU4eniCh0lPFi1kRaqVZEJRi18mGWW+66nmYlzU= Received: by 10.114.24.1 with SMTP id 1mr62884wax.1189094017797; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.32.5 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:53:37 +0200 From: "Thomas Hobbes" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Encrypting mirrored device with geli fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:20:53 -0000 # uname -a FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 # cat /boot/loader.conf beastie_disable="YES" geom_eli_load="YES" geom_mirror_load="YES" padlock_load="YES" Swap space is encrypted by appending '.eli' to /dev/mirror/gm0s1b in /etc/fstab. According to the ouput of swapinfo that works fine. /dev/mirror/gm0s1a is mounted on / /dev/mirror/gm0s1d is mounted on /var /dev/mirror/gm0s1e is mounted on /usr /dev/mirror/gm0s1f is mounted on /crypt I was trying to encrypt /dev/mirror/gm0s1f but a "MD5 mismatch" occurred: # umount /crypt # dd if=/dev/random of=/root/gm0s1f.key bs=64 count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 64 bytes transferred in 0.000580 secs (110331 bytes/sec) # geli init -K /root/gm0s1f.key -l 256 -s 4096 /dev/mirror/gm0s1f Enter new passphrase: Reenter new passphrase: # geli attach -k /root/gm0s1f.key /dev/mirror/gm0s1f MD5 hash mismatch for /dev/mirror/gm0s1f. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Was anybody successful in this respect? I'd appreciate every hint. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 16:26:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B28E16A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:26:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fia_wrc_fanatic@yahoo.com) Received: from web51812.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51812.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 295CB13C481 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:26:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fia_wrc_fanatic@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 95886 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2007 15:59:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=xKAIC05OF5JV5ffFgIliFKM8/KLHbv6gAH820o9QzP3tZW8Kzq6YqkahqqMss0zur7CAQMYLOmVjdwFOFQ/cYidyPind+KIeh0rvygyU7KTxusUGM5nRZA1XkjnU50MKd9ERPaasVvL5P3rWh+eV1ZMh1ZqIs72Men3lZPgn2yo=; X-YMail-OSG: WPv6sr4VM1nVd8C9_dwFndAIo.Hf06FIcRWRcXwksANwnVPdMamrp1TvrJWrCH2oddhI1UbtooDsDJSAJqdK4fAnKxsEL3yQB_ErxE1FQ2CMeIi4SeC_653IFmRKDg-- Received: from [199.231.48.128] by web51812.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:59:32 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:59:32 -0700 (PDT) From: asdf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <360937.95675.qm@web51812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Subject: Installing FreeBSD using a PPPoE connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:26:14 -0000 Does the FreeBSD 6.2 installer support a network install over an ethernet interface connected to a DSL modem using a PPPoE connection? I am switching ISPs from a cable-based provider to a DSL-based provider and would like to install FreeBSD on an old PC to set it up as a router/firewall for my home network. And since this old PC does not have a CD-ROM drive I'd like to a network install using PPPoE. But I haven't been able to find any current information on how to accomplish this. There used to be an (unofficial) page by Randy Pratt: "Installing FreeBSD Using PPPoE": but it's no longer there. Any help/advice is appreciated. Thanks! PS: I am not subscribed to this list, so please CC: me on all replies/follow-ups. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 16:42:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD7916A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from wjv.com (fl-65-40-24-38.sta.embarqhsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED38013C46E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l86GgJHR084138 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:42:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l86GgEZp084137 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:42:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:42:14 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070906164214.GC83249@wjv.com> References: <20070906062712.5579F16A498@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070906062712.5579F16A498@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:42:46 -0000 In the last exciting episode of the freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org saga on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 06:27 , freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org as heard to say: > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:37:11 +1000 > From: Norberto Meijome > Subject: Re: mail server setup questions > To: "Bob Johnson" > Cc: Andrey Shuvikov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:52:56 -0400 > "Bob Johnson" wrote: > > In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a > > passion. I suppose it is suitable for people who like puzzles > > (as in "What patches do I need to make this do something > > useful?" or "What third-party tool do I need to make sense > > out of these awful log files?") and who don't mind inflicting > > lots of unnecessary secondary spam on the rest of the world. > > Yes, I know there are _supposed_ to be patches that fix that > > problem, but (a) the one I've seen in action doesn't work very > > well, and (b) you shouldn't need to apply third-party patches > > to your mail server to make it do what it is supposed to do in > > the first place. > I second all these points. I think it's probably better to use > sendmail than qmail. Sendmail at least supports most (all?) > SMTP / antispam related features, it is well documented , > and configurable to the extreme (with the caveat that its > configuration may be a bit daunting to the un-initiated :D). > > I just realised that qmail appears over and over in Linux > distros, or at least on linux servers i've had to suffer... not > sure the relationship there (in design / philosophy...)... and I > am really NOT wanting to start a flame war. Just a thought that > crossed my mind as I was reading this thread. > Best, > B I've been using sendmail for years, once it got stable, and I moved from Smail. This was on a SysV.3 from Esix. However one day I decided to see what all the hoopla over qmail was about. So I went into the ports and ran make. Much to my suprise, qmail installed 6 separate accounts in the pasword file. This was just with a make and NOT make install. That at the very least is very rude behaviour. And another problem with qmail from what I've read is that if you send mail to several people on the same server, instead of doing what all other MTA's do - and send ONE mail with all addresses, qmail will generate a separate email for each user - putting un-needed loads on your server and the recipients machine. And the last time the qmail tar file that you get when you run make has been changed was March 4, 2001. Anyone who even thinks that a piece of software that it 6 years old has no flaws had best re-think this. The last patches were in 2003. ISTR that I heard DJB speak at a Usenix conference many years ago and I was less than impressed with his "I'm better than any of you" attitude. Many seem to share that feeling - so consider me prejudiced. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 17:05:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B314B16A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7107E13C461 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so441276pyb for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:04:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=GHtA2TEO5MXlsZ8j5O8O5I/EwVjUNt+aUHahc2Ux88I=; b=IwsRDqZeQVVEGO4a/gyv4/XqFWnzUZDuSRD44dMxECXu5knNcA0H4Vd1nuaWmCk0zYCrYDhKREOFLd24eAdC8SA0058Ds4RJEBX5rQsXSCwlmy2U/OR7Sb74XKV4vm7ZxhjRWEort2FW3LbilW7lqbjEalomEhnPhKNvVbovf9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eSZ76fKkNuxsDBuwkccdrJQn2/V8pW464V4AY0NoOIjMhWOS4K/X3ygioY22JUz0afdT1iRte9N1s0EFhURUwFyRZOhwjjr6PKHg+GgO9ae3PSGtqbzKMfYXc+gIEpwkN3kwAluxZDtsD55Cebpg9+rERECvtxNCRR44nwrIJLY= Received: by 10.35.87.8 with SMTP id p8mr903076pyl.1189098282992; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.101.16 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:04:42 -0300 From: luizbcampos@gmail.com To: luizbcampos@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20070905160848.GA20668@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070905160848.GA20668@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: bootable CDs on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:05:02 -0000 >> I followed your instruction...one more disk to the trash! Thanks On 9/5/07, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 08:50:21PM -0300, luizbcampos@gmail.com wrote: > > Dear Sirs > > > > > > Burning CDs is becoming a coastier task to me on FBSD-6.1-Ramd64= . > > I've lost five of them...and the question is how to make bootable CDs b= y > > using cdrecord? I've already read "man cdrecord" but the question is no= t > > clearer. > > Better not use 6.1. 6.2 has been out for some time now. > > The following works for me; > > 1) Make sure that the CD/DVD rewriter is controlled as a SCSI device > instead of an ATAPI device. Build a kernel with the following devices: > > # ATA and ATAPI devices > # Do _not_ include the atapicd driver! > device ata > device atadisk # ATA disk srives > device ataraid # RAID drives > # The atapicam device is not included in the GENERIC amd64 kernel! > device atapicam # Emulate ATAPI devices as SCSI via CAM > options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering > > # SCSI peripherals > device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) > device cd # Compact Disc > device da # Direct Access (disks) > device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) > > 2) Set the device permissions correctly > > # Give members of group cdrom access to the CD/DVD-ROM and DVD+RW via the > # SCSI interface > own xpt0 root:cdrom > perm xpt0 0660 > own cd0 root:cdrom > perm cd0 0660 > own cd1 root:cdrom > perm cd1 0660 > link cd1 cdrom > link cd1 dvd > > My user-id is part of the cdrom group. > > 3) Use 'cdrecord -scanbus' to determine which device to use; > Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01a11 (amd64-unknown-freebsd6.2) Copyright (C) > 1995-2006 J=F6rg Schilling > Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. > scsibus1: > 1,0,0 100) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVD-ROM GDR8163B' '0L23' Removable CD-RO= M > 1,1,0 101) 'PLEXTOR ' 'DVDR PX-716A ' '1.08' Removable CD-RO= M > > So I'm using 1,1,0. > > 4) Burn the image; > > cdrecord -v -eject -dao speed=3D32 driveropts=3Dburnfree dev=3D1,1,0 -pad= \ > -data 6.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso > > HTH, > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 17:12:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4737C16A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276E913C45B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITKsT-0004no-NA for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:10:50 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ITKsQ-0004nR-Cn; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:10:46 -0700 Message-ID: <46E033A8.4010100@math.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:06:48 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erin McNew , questions@freebsd.org References: <6e4453640709052135k61dc4097nb79c03e4672e5489@mail.gmail.com> <46DFA25F.7000504@math.arizona.edu> <6e4453640709060811k46a13192hf68e50428b72a5d7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6e4453640709060811k46a13192hf68e50428b72a5d7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: Canon A620, FreeBSD and gphoto2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:12:08 -0000 Eric, Some cameras can be mounted without any software on FreeBSD. Yours is not one of those so be it. No we are going to use gPhoto2. If you play (ON THE MENU OF CAMERA) with the options on YOUR CAMERA in particular options for USB connector you will see that the following options likely will be displayed Pict Bridge PTP Mass Storage Auto By default the camera is in Auto mode which is good enough for Windozzz but FreeBSD might want you to put camera in PTP mode usually used when camera is directly connected to PRINTER via USB. Then just follow the steps I gave you. I am 99% sure that your camera DOES work with FreeBSD. Predrag Erin McNew wrote: > Thank you for the suggestions. I did try mounting the camera, but > since I had to use gphoto2 in linux, I figured I'd probably need to do > so in freebsd as well. It gave me the message saying it required a > block device. > > I do not quite know what you mean about switching my camera to PTP > mode. I did not need to do anything special under Linux, but I will > google a bit to see what I can figure out related to that. > > I will look into your suggestions a bit more closely tonight when I > get back home. > > If I'm understanding your explanation correctly, the fact that my > camera is showing up as ugen0 instead of usb0 is not a problem, correct? > > Thanks! > ~Erin > > On 9/5/07, *Predrag Punosevac* > wrote: > > You should try to mount your camera manually first as > su - > password > mount_msdosfs /dev/ugen0 /mnt > > If you can not read the camera only then you should use gphoto2 but > logged as a supper user to avoid > permission problems. If that fails i.e. if you get the message BLOCK > DEVICE RECUIRED you > should try to use gphoto2. > > This is step by step for my Sony Cyber-Shot W70 > 1. Change into PTP mode on camera > 2. Go to su mode (this can be avoided but I left it so that my wife > cannot mess with it) > 3. gphoto2 --auto-detect will list your camera as Sony DSC-F707V (PTP > mode) usb: > 4. gphoto2 --help to get various commands > 5 gphoto2 --L will list all the files in numerical order > 6 gphoto2 --get-file=NUMBER Range (will get you files in that range) > 7 WARNING you may need to issue the commands some time multiple times > because > they fail. The following message is not uncommon > *** Error *** > > Note you might not need to go to PTP mode for your particular camera! > > If that fail then you can use cheap card reader which are well > detected > by FreeBSD. > > There is an excellent thread that you can review > http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=12015&page=7&pp=15 > > > maybe somebody left specific details for you camera but I think I gave > you a big push:-) > > Please let me know how it goes. > > Predrag > > > > Erin McNew wrote: > > I'm trying to get my Canon A620 camera to work with gphoto2 > under FreeBSD. > > > > dmesg is telling me that my camera is /dev/ugen0. > > > > [osiris temp] gphoto2 --list-ports > > Devices found: > > 2 > > Path Description > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ptpip: PTP/IP Connection > > usb: Universal Serial Bus > > > > [osiris temp] gphoto2 --port /dev/ugen0 -P > > *** Error *** > > An error occurred in the io-library ('I/O problem'): Failed to open > > '/dev/ugen0' (m). > > *** Error (-7: 'I/O problem') *** > > > > [osiris temp] gphoto2 -L > > > > 1 > > *** Error *** > > An error occurred in the io-library ('Bad parameters'): Could > not find USB > > device (vendor 0x4a9, product 0x30fc). Make sure this device is > connected to > > the computer. > > *** Error (-2: 'Bad parameters') *** > > > > I tried using --debug, but it didn't seem to give me that much > more detail, > > at least that I could understand. I also tried specifying the > port as "usb" > > and the camera as "Canon PowerShot A620 (PTP mode)" (as > specified in gphoto2 > > --list-cameras). None of this worked. Each gave me the "bad > parameters" > > error, which is slightly frustrating. > > > > I believe that this could be due to the fact that the camera is > being seen > > as ugen0 instead of usb. Is there a way to cause it to be seen > as usb? > > > > Thanks! > > ~Erin > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.tuxgirl.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 17:30:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A5C16A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp1.tls.net (smtp1.tls.net [65.196.224.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFAF13C457 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 74423 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2007 17:32:29 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 74409, pid: 74415, t: 3.9812s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.91.1/m:44/d:4169 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp1.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=20.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.103?) (ldg@tls.net@10.0.241.3) by auth-smtp1.tls.net with ESMTPA; 6 Sep 2007 17:32:25 -0000 Message-ID: <46E038DB.9050507@pixelhammer.com> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:28:59 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070906062712.5579F16A498@hub.freebsd.org> <20070906164214.GC83249@wjv.com> In-Reply-To: <20070906164214.GC83249@wjv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mail server setup questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:30:35 -0000 Bill Vermillion wrote: > In the last exciting episode of the > freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org saga on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at > 06:27 , freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org as heard to say: > >> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:37:11 +1000 >> From: Norberto Meijome >> Subject: Re: mail server setup questions >> To: "Bob Johnson" >> Cc: Andrey Shuvikov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:52:56 -0400 >> "Bob Johnson" wrote: > >>> In case I haven't made myself clear, I despise Qmail with a >>> passion. I suppose it is suitable for people who like puzzles >>> (as in "What patches do I need to make this do something >>> useful?" or "What third-party tool do I need to make sense >>> out of these awful log files?") and who don't mind inflicting >>> lots of unnecessary secondary spam on the rest of the world. >>> Yes, I know there are _supposed_ to be patches that fix that >>> problem, but (a) the one I've seen in action doesn't work very >>> well, and (b) you shouldn't need to apply third-party patches >>> to your mail server to make it do what it is supposed to do in >>> the first place. > >> I second all these points. I think it's probably better to use >> sendmail than qmail. Sendmail at least supports most (all?) >> SMTP / antispam related features, it is well documented , >> and configurable to the extreme (with the caveat that its >> configuration may be a bit daunting to the un-initiated :D). >> >> I just realised that qmail appears over and over in Linux >> distros, or at least on linux servers i've had to suffer... not >> sure the relationship there (in design / philosophy...)... and I >> am really NOT wanting to start a flame war. Just a thought that >> crossed my mind as I was reading this thread. > >> Best, >> B > > I've been using sendmail for years, once it got stable, and I moved > from Smail. This was on a SysV.3 from Esix. > > However one day I decided to see what all the hoopla over qmail > was about. So I went into the ports and ran make. > > Much to my suprise, qmail installed 6 separate accounts in the > pasword file. This was just with a make and NOT make install. > > That at the very least is very rude behaviour. And another problem > with qmail from what I've read is that if you send mail to > several people on the same server, instead of doing what all > other MTA's do - and send ONE mail with all addresses, qmail > will generate a separate email for each user - putting un-needed > loads on your server and the recipients machine. > > And the last time the qmail tar file that you get when you run > make has been changed was March 4, 2001. Anyone who even thinks > that a piece of software that it 6 years old has no flaws had best > re-think this. The last patches were in 2003. Don't wonder if qmail has flaws, go to CERT.org and search first for Sendmail, then Postfix, then Exim, then qmail. To say "Anyone who even thinks that a piece of software that it 6 years old has no flaws had best re-think this.", is simply FUD. > > ISTR that I heard DJB speak at a Usenix conference many years ago > and I was less than impressed with his "I'm better than any of > you" attitude. > > Many seem to share that feeling - so consider me prejudiced. We have run qmail for several years on FreeBSD quite well with few problems, none of which where related to the software, it's design, it's configuration, always it was Clam or SpamAssassin binding things up. It is stable, fast, secure, and provides abilities other MTAs do not. It is our first choice for a toaster or a mail list server. We use Sendmail on our gateways for it's excellent milter support and versatile configuration. It has more knobs than a recording studio. If we had a client with just a few domains and the need for their own MTA, we would install Postfix for it's ease of use. It's rock solid and easy to remember when you come back to it six months later. "If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail" DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 17:33:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F42116A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E958613C459 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D071CCA6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:33:26 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:33:25 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709061933.25807.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: bootable CDs on FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:33:44 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 01:50:21 luizbcampos@gmail.com wrote: > Burning CDs is becoming a coastier task to me on FBSD-6.1-R amd64. > I've lost five of them... How do you determine they're broken? Like which error messages you get with what command, that makes you decide to trash them. > and the question is how to make bootable CDs by > using cdrecord? I've already read "man cdrecord" but the question is not > clearer. Cdrecord (or burncd for that matter) doesn't know what bootable cd-roms are. The iso file determines if they're bootable or not. Cdrecord/burncd just tells the cd writer what bytes to burn in which sectors. man mkisofs should tell you about making an iso file bootable. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 17:46:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED6E16A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A97E13C442 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37225519AD for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:45:41 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070906184541.1e30bd92@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <46DEED0A.7000609@lvor.halvorsen.cc> References: <46DEED0A.7000609@lvor.halvorsen.cc> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Linuxulator and SSE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:46:06 -0000 On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:53:14 +0200 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > Hello, list! > > > I'm trying to get Bibble to run under the Linuxulator on FreeBSD, > but it keeps complaining about missing SSE support. > I'm seeing the same sort of thing with an AMD64 (i386). dmesg shows SSE, but cpuinfo doesn't $ cat /compat/linux/proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 6 model : 7 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 2800+ stepping : 10 flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 b19 mmx fxsr xmm b26 cpu MHz : 1802.32 bogomips : 1802.32 18:40 (bob) ~ $ dmesg |grep sse 18:41 (bob) ~ $ dmesg |grep -i sse Features=0x78bfbff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 18:16:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFBC16A420 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca) Received: from electra.cc.umanitoba.ca (electra.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.16.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6094513C46C for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca) Received: from brisbane.nepharia.org (wnpgmb02dc1-60-120.dynamic.mts.net [207.161.60.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by electra.cc.umanitoba.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l86IGf9g009071 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:16:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: by brisbane.nepharia.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:16:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:16:41 -0500 From: Mak Kolybabi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070906181640.GB16749@brisbane> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:16:46 -0000 I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on an IBM Thinkpad, and the install goes fine until it gets to the end of copying files from the CD. At that point, the message 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found'. Also, 'Abort trap' appears on the console a few times. When I go to VT4, any command I try running gives me the same error. Any suggestions? -- Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 18:28:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF9016A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3004C13C461 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:28:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 65442 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2007 18:28:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=FxwZxLzuNYFDTWYan0fyHN3NVuyZMTPW6WE0Y0mKZSKJXUgitdiCuE7N+YdY4yl1ev/2Ee+4TjUxXIZbJ8PGv7WaWjsfbp2jdqFrmgx2PoIStcwboqErR+zPJcDnfAfUyAVY3zE+rX3/ircZp5PmetlwalQq/uZkYM5jPETA9Z8=; X-YMail-OSG: vNJX2esVM1mkQUvCSbuQXBw_q373cerCpjfIOA5fAsYeBU.ynMKTt3CFxxmPEnO6DHnRFfj8jp4TUtXPC4a_4SL8AutrT7Bjofp0TcDSl0JrtqAjw7v_tNP0yOrh_g-- Received: from [209.191.119.133] by web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:28:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/651.50 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:28:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielisz Laszlo To: Mak Kolybabi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <381575.65133.qm@web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danielisz Laszlo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:28:15 -0000 Do you tried to install FreeBSD from the internet?=0A=0A----- Original Mess= age ----=0AFrom: Mak Kolybabi =0ATo: freebsd-que= stions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:16:41 PM=0ASubject= : 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install=0A=0AI= 'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on an IBM Thinkpad, and the instal= l=0Agoes fine until it gets to the end of copying files from the CD. At tha= t point,=0Athe message 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found'. Al= so, 'Abort trap'=0Aappears on the console a few times.=0A=0AWhen I go to VT= 4, any command I try running gives me the same error.=0A=0AAny suggestions?= =0A=0A--=0AMatthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak)=0A=0A() ASCII Ribbon Campaign | A= gainst HTML e-mail=0A/\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensi= ons=0A=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-question= s@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/free= bsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubsc= ribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________= ____________________________________________________________=0AYahoo! oneSe= arch: Finally, mobile search =0Athat gives answers, not web links. =0Ahttp:= //mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=3D1ONXIC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 18:36:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A51516A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca) Received: from electra.cc.umanitoba.ca (electra.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.16.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE73913C4B4 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:36:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca) Received: from brisbane.nepharia.org (wnpgmb02dc1-60-120.dynamic.mts.net [207.161.60.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by electra.cc.umanitoba.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l86IZplQ025218 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:35:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: by brisbane.nepharia.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:35:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:35:51 -0500 From: Mak Kolybabi To: Danielisz Laszlo Message-ID: <20070906183550.GA9540@brisbane> References: <381575.65133.qm@web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <381575.65133.qm@web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:36:59 -0000 On 2007-09-06 11:28, Danielisz Laszlo wrote: > Do you tried to install FreeBSD from the internet? > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mak Kolybabi > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:16:41 PM > Subject: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on an IBM Thinkpad, and the install > goes fine until it gets to the end of copying files from the CD. At that point, > the message 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found'. Also, 'Abort trap' > appears on the console a few times. > > When I go to VT4, any command I try running gives me the same error. > > Any suggestions? I'm installing from the i386 ISO from the FreeBSD site. When asked where to use as a download source, I chose 'CD/DVD'. Also, I have verified the ISO's MD5 sum and tried burning the image more than once, just to be paranoid. -- Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 18:41:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400DF16A41A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0C413C46B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:41:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id 69AAC16B779; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:41:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.89]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E208D16B76D; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:41:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:41:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:41:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Mak Kolybabi In-Reply-To: <20070906181640.GB16749@brisbane> Message-ID: <20070906133730.G91523@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <20070906181640.GB16749@brisbane> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.9 required=10.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,OACYS_SINGLE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:41:43 -0000 On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Mak Kolybabi wrote: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on an IBM Thinkpad, and the > install goes fine until it gets to the end of copying files from the CD. > At that point, the message 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not > found'. Also, 'Abort trap' appears on the console a few times. > > When I go to VT4, any command I try running gives me the same error. > > Any suggestions? You almost certainly have a corrupt distribution. Did you check the checksums? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 18:46:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D708516A46C for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sellis@telus.net) Received: from outbound03.telus.net (outbound03.telus.net [199.185.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5535B13C4B3 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sellis@telus.net) Received: from priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net ([154.20.93.49]) by priv-edtnes86.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20070906174837.BPLE19157.priv-edtnes86.telusplanet.net@priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net> for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:48:37 -0600 Received: from d154-20-93-49.bchsia.telus.net (d154-20-93-49.bchsia.telus.net [154.20.93.49]) by priv-edtnaa05.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 69WX2SW3GN for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:48:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from telus.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d154-20-93-49.bchsia.telus.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l86HmVam030575 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:48:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sellis@telus.net) Received: (from sellis@localhost) by telus.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id l86HmQOL030574 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:48:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sellis@telus.net) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:48:26 -0700 From: Sean Ellis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070906174826.GE78764@telus.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: can't `make index` on 4.11-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sellis@telus.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:46:23 -0000 Hi, I have a problem trying to `make index` on a machine running 4.11-STABLE after cvsup-ing the ports tree. I'll paste the error in below. It is with a multimedia package. If it makes any difference, I don't need any multimedia on this computer. Alternately, any links to a howto about ugrading this to 6 STABLE would be appreciated. Thanks, here is the error: [10:42am] [/usr/ports]make index Generating INDEX-4 - please wait.."/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 392: Malformed conditional (${gst_${GST_PLUGIN}_GCONF_SCHEMAS}!="") "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 396: Malformed conditional (${gst_${GST_PLUGIN}_USE_SDL}!="") "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 398: if-less endif "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 398: Need an operator "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 419: if-less endif "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 419: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue ===> audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound failed *** Error code 1 Sean Ellis From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 18:47:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1005816A420 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30813.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30813.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1C8F13C49D for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 77050 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2007 18:47:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=UmtyMFYYzTEzvXS2OL6z/cU1MU9rS61wx3rtf3+uLydBqw6OEMPfzX7WRDu1KRKrTWIneCpb5Oa/v8S6PNA4zaF0dwrwiNGoO6e2jd6E9Y5amXgWOOB2b9QNj/q1JRQQYMOEqpYwnjzsUrYSv5IiYkXxbi2MDEJV/sbFuldAxjA=; X-YMail-OSG: wTYVbeUVM1ngvqIrtJphkIzWjHWfiHK.EYXYg_XwYn9os7m7_cDqF._LmvY2CF6Cep.Fd5Y7LIlcJoAy1B_ypwNrS_aCT81slCrj3zYIP65sgwxlv6htaF02Ug-- Received: from [209.191.118.121] by web30813.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:47:15 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/651.50 YahooMailWebService/0.7.134 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:47:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielisz Laszlo To: Mak Kolybabi , Danielisz Laszlo MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <805502.76527.qm@web30813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Danielisz Laszlo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:47:42 -0000 Try to use a FreeBSD ftp server, or a mirror server next time when asks you= about the install source.=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Mak Kol= ybabi =0ATo: Danielisz Laszlo =0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Thursday, September = 6, 2007 9:35:51 PM=0ASubject: Re: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not= found' during OS install=0A=0AOn 2007-09-06 11:28, Danielisz Laszlo wrote:= =0A> Do you tried to install FreeBSD from the internet?=0A>=0A> ----- Origi= nal Message ----=0A> From: Mak Kolybabi =0A> To:= freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:16:4= 1 PM=0A> Subject: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during O= S install=0A>=0A> I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on an IBM Think= pad, and the install=0A> goes fine until it gets to the end of copying file= s from the CD. 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Games.=0Ahttp://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey= =3Dmonopolyherenow From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 18:50:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348D416A41A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:50:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca) Received: from electra.cc.umanitoba.ca (electra.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.16.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C1D13C48E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca) Received: from brisbane.nepharia.org (wnpgmb02dc1-60-120.dynamic.mts.net [207.161.60.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by electra.cc.umanitoba.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l86Ios8t006904 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:50:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: by brisbane.nepharia.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:50:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:50:54 -0500 From: Mak Kolybabi To: Danielisz Laszlo Message-ID: <20070906185053.GB9540@brisbane> References: <805502.76527.qm@web30813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <805502.76527.qm@web30813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:50:57 -0000 On 2007-09-06 11:47, Danielisz Laszlo wrote: > Try to use a FreeBSD ftp server, or a mirror server next time when asks you about the install source. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mak Kolybabi > To: Danielisz Laszlo > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:35:51 PM > Subject: Re: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install > > On 2007-09-06 11:28, Danielisz Laszlo wrote: > > Do you tried to install FreeBSD from the internet? > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Mak Kolybabi > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:16:41 PM > > Subject: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install > > > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on an IBM Thinkpad, and the install > > goes fine until it gets to the end of copying files from the CD. At that point, > > the message 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found'. Also, 'Abort trap' > > appears on the console a few times. > > > > When I go to VT4, any command I try running gives me the same error. > > > > Any suggestions? > > I'm installing from the i386 ISO from the FreeBSD site. When asked where to use > as a download source, I chose 'CD/DVD'. Also, I have verified the ISO's MD5 sum > and tried burning the image more than once, just to be paranoid. > > -- > Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) Will do. Thanks for the suggestion. Trying that now... -- Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 18:58:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCF816A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6581313C468 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=50945) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1ITMYW-0006TP-EK; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:58:21 +0800 Message-ID: <46E04EBA.3080007@adempiere.org> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:32:18 +0330 From: "Bahman M." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070904) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mak Kolybabi References: <20070906181640.GB16749@brisbane> In-Reply-To: <20070906181640.GB16749@brisbane> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:58:41 -0000 Mak Kolybabi wrote: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on an IBM Thinkpad, and the install > goes fine until it gets to the end of copying files from the CD. At that point, > the message 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found'. Also, 'Abort trap' > appears on the console a few times. > > When I go to VT4, any command I try running gives me the same error. Have you checked VT2 for any errors or warnings? Bahman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 19:11:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D28716A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ngharibyan@mail.ru) Received: from mx3.mail.ru (mx3.mail.ru [194.67.23.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C062C13C458 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:11:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ngharibyan@mail.ru) Received: from [91.103.27.104] (port=52089 helo=sis2w001) by mx3.mail.ru with asmtp id 1ITMky-000JgD-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:11:13 +0400 From: "Narek Gharibyan" To: Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:11:10 +0500 Message-ID: <000001c7f0b9$b1abc9b0$180ca8c0@arm.synisys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcfwludC8lvDGitdQc6T+rmWHKPHzw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Smokeping HELP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:11:39 -0000 Hi All, Please send me detailed instruction how to configure Smokeping. I couldn't configure httpd.conf also. Regards, Narek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 19:12:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B96D16A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca) Received: from electra.cc.umanitoba.ca (electra.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.16.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4E713C458 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca) Received: from brisbane.nepharia.org (wnpgmb02dc1-60-120.dynamic.mts.net [207.161.60.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by electra.cc.umanitoba.ca (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id l86JCDVm025820 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: by brisbane.nepharia.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) mak_kolybabi@umanitoba.ca; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:12:12 -0500 From: Mak Kolybabi To: "Bahman M." Message-ID: <20070906191212.GC9540@brisbane> References: <20070906181640.GB16749@brisbane> <46E04EBA.3080007@adempiere.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46E04EBA.3080007@adempiere.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:12:53 -0000 On 2007-09-06 22:32, Bahman M. wrote: > Mak Kolybabi wrote: >> I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on an IBM Thinkpad, and the >> install >> goes fine until it gets to the end of copying files from the CD. At that >> point, >> the message 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found'. Also, 'Abort >> trap' >> appears on the console a few times. >> When I go to VT4, any command I try running gives me the same error. > Have you checked VT2 for any errors or warnings? > > Bahman VT2 was where I was able to see these errors fully. Other than that, they crop up behind the dialogs near the end of the setup. They are all I can see out of the ordinary. -- Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 19:15:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05EA16A46D for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC2D13C45A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@earthlink.net) Received: from [76.6.196.150] (helo=kt.weeeble.com) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ITMJ8-0002Dy-Nc; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:42:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:42:23 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: asdf Message-Id: <20070906144223.7e1c4455.bsd-unix@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <360937.95675.qm@web51812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <360937.95675.qm@web51812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.5 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 96132b9c1759af1df21c5f5255d6c174239a348a220c260954e4b44d380e0d1e3d0be1ed093cb1b1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.6.196.150 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD using a PPPoE connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:15:29 -0000 On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:59:32 -0700 (PDT) asdf wrote: > Does the FreeBSD 6.2 installer support a network install over an ethernet interface > connected to a DSL modem using a PPPoE connection? > > I am switching ISPs from a cable-based provider to a DSL-based provider and would > like to install FreeBSD on an old PC to set it up as a router/firewall for my home > network. And since this old PC does not have a CD-ROM drive I'd like to a network > install using PPPoE. > > But I haven't been able to find any current information on how to accomplish this. > There used to be an (unofficial) page by Randy Pratt: > > "Installing FreeBSD Using PPPoE": > > > but it's no longer there. I still have a copy at: http://myfreebsd.homeunix.net/pppoe-article/article.html Its probably still pretty close since sysinstall doesn't change that much. I hope you find it useful. HTH, Randy -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 19:18:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0EE16A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E8513C47E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l86JIhaQ042628 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:18:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1189106325; bh=3in4OdLRPST5kD 5jxrGeLAWmf4+v06wkg7+bmneHym0=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Organization: User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc: Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version: References:To; b=fmxzSvDqrFw4FPuwfDcWx4mHdXlrOV6W/pHN6HD3fUEhaQDMl sQetwd+xJ20vEQvep58GElp/ApM4S/LQuLINwGqs+j9qhUi5fv/jT187KI3n1a2cv4R Kh4G87/ac3RNhFcJXjNjEuWJnUfp+JPONyZLgz1ImIODP+Si554HIy4= Message-ID: <46E05293.6040303@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:18:43 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070803) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070906174826.GE78764@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <20070906174826.GE78764@telus.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:18:45 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/4173/Thu Sep 6 19:35:28 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: can't `make index` on 4.11-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:18:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Sean Ellis wrote: > I have a problem trying to `make index` on a machine running 4.11-STABLE > after cvsup-ing the ports tree. 4.x has been dropped from support by the ports tree. Several months ago now. It's never going to work, > Alternately, any links to a howto about ugrading this to 6 STABLE would > be appreciated. For a 4.x to 6.x upgrade, your most effective route is generally to backup your important files and data, and then nuke and repave your server -- ie. just do a clean install of 6.2 overwriting the old system -- then use csup(1)[*] to grab the latest RELENG_6 source and buildworld in the usual way. Given the price of hard drives nowadays, you could just buy yourself a new one and install 6.2 on that -- gives you an easy back-out route to 4.11 if it all goes horribly wrong... Cheers, Matthew [*] That's a replacement for cvsup, written in C and part of the base system in 6.x. - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG4FKT8Mjk52CukIwRCG13AJ497ojrbx3YjEwxdEuwMPLdTq5qQACfePJe Fk7yhPEEH737PnSQG0MoYtw= =C70E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 19:24:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED54A16A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B0313C459 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l86JOMvP017836; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:24:22 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, sellis@telus.net Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:24:31 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20070906174826.GE78764@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <20070906174826.GE78764@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709061224.32011.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Subject: Re: can't `make index` on 4.11-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:24:35 -0000 On Thursday 06 September 2007, Sean Ellis wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem trying to `make index` on a machine running > 4.11-STABLE after cvsup-ing the ports tree. The port tree is no longer supported for anything less than version 5-stable. The last working tag is RELEASE_4_EOL. > > I'll paste the error in below. It is with a multimedia package. If it > makes any difference, I don't need any multimedia on this computer. > > Alternately, any links to a howto about ugrading this to 6 STABLE > would be appreciated. Going from 4.x to 6.x, you are probably much better off doing a clean install. Change the HDs from ufs to ufs2. Without the clean install, you have too much crufty stuff left behind, such as the thread change. In addition, there was a massive change at 5.1 +/- that building and installing in the wrong order would leave your system unusable. I think you could recover with the fixit disk but doing a clean install bypasses all of the problems :). I don't think going to 6.x is supported, so, going to 5-stable and then 6-stable will take a lot of time. Even a 6.2-release CD has the old version of xorg on it and rebuilding everything to 7.2 is a massive enterprise. Install 6.2 and get all of the packages from freebsd.org. Kent > > Thanks, here is the error: > > [10:42am] [/usr/ports]make index > Generating INDEX-4 - please > wait.."/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gst >reamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 392: Malformed conditional > (${gst_${GST_PLUGIN}_GCONF_SCHEMAS}!="") > "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer >-plugins/Makefile.common", line 396: Malformed conditional > (${gst_${GST_PLUGIN}_USE_SDL}!="") > "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer >-plugins/Makefile.common", line 398: if-less endif > "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer >-plugins/Makefile.common", line 398: Need an operator > "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer >-plugins/Makefile.common", line 419: if-less endif > "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer >-plugins/Makefile.common", line 419: Need an operator make: fatal > errors encountered -- cannot continue > ===> audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound failed > *** Error code 1 > > > Sean Ellis > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://www.soyandina.com/ "I am Andean project". http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 19:29:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BA916A420 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mymailfloods@googlemail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BBD13C46B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mymailfloods@googlemail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so283990waf for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:29:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=aNy4e6f10HhWW5FZWW4cf9tqQ+m+ld/T19KxzSNUrSk=; b=JQA0L3OlbPsegBun27wpaPSA2QldtoP/pzH8PGkJEyu/Why0YMfcd2tG+zvWRY+jM+BRc+HjfVFuE9C4gqaj/QNbcsQITA1uPBHX7+r7BG/QIG8rLap5+WheG/UzAGbKZE+i2TczWTsyqVHtcs1UtxehPMEEWXlMbMbq9okH6MQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=eKIlOd7JB8XMQ2mBdG4ZMDUvop/PfkeTfmScrQgxSxW38yoEqHpvVMIrJEeAKyklN6ONfMFX4aBPRDGV/I9mvg2B5pZTs5DTftM0Dh5A4SNken9blin4ZsilIOeQ99Gv2c95bZUYD7izS8P5yWDS3jI6nMHJRC2hzSa9smenmac= Received: by 10.114.79.1 with SMTP id c1mr206799wab.1189106959593; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.32.5 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:29:19 +0200 From: "Thomas Hobbes" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Encrypting mirrored device with geli fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:29:22 -0000 # uname -a FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 # cat /boot/loader.conf beastie_disable="YES" geom_eli_load="YES" geom_mirror_load="YES" padlock_load="YES" Swap space is encrypted by appending '.eli' to /dev/mirror/gm0s1b in /etc/fstab. According to the ouput of swapinfo that works fine. /dev/mirror/gm0s1a is mounted on / /dev/mirror/gm0s1d is mounted on /var /dev/mirror/gm0s1e is mounted on /usr /dev/mirror/gm0s1f is mounted on /crypt I was trying to encrypt /dev/mirror/gm0s1f but a "MD5 mismatch" occurred: # umount /crypt # dd if=/dev/random of=/root/gm0s1f.key bs=64 count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 64 bytes transferred in 0.000580 secs (110331 bytes/sec) # geli init -K /root/gm0s1f.key -l 256 -s 4096 /dev/mirror/gm0s1f Enter new passphrase: Reenter new passphrase: # geli attach -k /root/gm0s1f.key /dev/mirror/gm0s1f MD5 hash mismatch for /dev/mirror/gm0s1f. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Was anybody successful in this respect? I'd appreciate every hint. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 19:35:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939C516A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D1013C458 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:35:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A8F1CCA6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:35:47 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:35:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20070906181640.GB16749@brisbane> <46E04EBA.3080007@adempiere.org> <20070906191212.GC9540@brisbane> In-Reply-To: <20070906191212.GC9540@brisbane> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709062135.46104.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found' during OS install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:35:48 -0000 On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:12:12 Mak Kolybabi wrote: > On 2007-09-06 22:32, Bahman M. wrote: > > Mak Kolybabi wrote: > >> I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on an IBM Thinkpad, and the > >> install > >> goes fine until it gets to the end of copying files from the CD. At that > >> point, > >> the message 'ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found'. Also, > >> 'Abort trap' > >> appears on the console a few times. > >> When I go to VT4, any command I try running gives me the same error. > > > > Have you checked VT2 for any errors or warnings? > > > > Bahman > > VT2 was where I was able to see these errors fully. Other than that, they > crop up behind the dialogs near the end of the setup. They are all I can > see out of the ordinary. Try finding the rescue directory, there's statically linked df and ls in there that should help you locate why /libexec/ld-elf.so isn't found. I don't recall where it is on the installation cd-rom, after it's booting and don't have one handy at the moment. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 19:35:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B960616A506 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BA213C46A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:35:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITN9O-0005k7-S7 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:36:27 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ITN9L-0005jb-7L; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:36:23 -0700 Message-ID: <46E055C8.6010707@math.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:32:24 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sellis@telus.net, questions@freebsd.org References: <20070906174826.GE78764@telus.net> In-Reply-To: <20070906174826.GE78764@telus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: can't `make index` on 4.11-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:35:57 -0000 I might be a moron for CS but if I remember well discussions of other people you must upgrade 4.11 to 5.4 or something like that first and then go to 6.2 Pedja Sean Ellis wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem trying to `make index` on a machine running 4.11-STABLE > after cvsup-ing the ports tree. > > I'll paste the error in below. It is with a multimedia package. If it > makes any difference, I don't need any multimedia on this computer. > > Alternately, any links to a howto about ugrading this to 6 STABLE would > be appreciated. > > Thanks, here is the error: > > [10:42am] [/usr/ports]make index > Generating INDEX-4 - please wait.."/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 392: Malformed conditional (${gst_${GST_PLUGIN}_GCONF_SCHEMAS}!="") > "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 396: Malformed conditional (${gst_${GST_PLUGIN}_USE_SDL}!="") > "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 398: if-less endif > "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 398: Need an operator > "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 419: if-less endif > "/usr/ports/audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound/../../multimedia/gstreamer-plugins/Makefile.common", line 419: Need an operator > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > ===> audio/gstreamer-plugins-esound failed > *** Error code 1 > > > Sean Ellis > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 19:43:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F06416A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B8713C48D for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE601CCA6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:43:47 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:43:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <000001c7f0b9$b1abc9b0$180ca8c0@arm.synisys.com> In-Reply-To: <000001c7f0b9$b1abc9b0$180ca8c0@arm.synisys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709062143.46322.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: Smokeping HELP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:43:48 -0000 On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:11:10 Narek Gharibyan wrote: > Please send me detailed instruction how to configure Smokeping. I couldn't > configure httpd.conf also. I'll bite. What's smokeping? -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 19:49:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7A516A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E872713C4A3 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITNM5-0005nx-7i for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:49:34 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ITNM5-0005nc-2S for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:49:33 -0700 Message-ID: <46E0596D.8060404@math.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:47:57 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070713) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: FreeMAT fails to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:49:13 -0000 Does anyone know why am I getting this message when trying to compile freemat. I do have scilib installed so I hope it is not related to the conflict of libraries. I also made same choices when asked on interactive screens instead of using BATCH mode. Did I make wrong choices? How can I undo this and start with fresh installation in which I will just keep default options. /usr/local/include/qptrlist.h: In copy constructor `QPtrList::QPtrList(const QPtrList&) [with type = QFileInfo]': Interpreter.cpp:141: instantiated from here /usr/local/include/qptrlist.h:69: error: type `QGList' is not a direct base of `QPtrList' gmake[3]: *** [Interpreter.o] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/math/freemat/work/FreeMat-3.3/libs/libFreeMat' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/math/freemat/work/FreeMat-3.3/libs/libFreeMat' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/math/freemat/work/FreeMat-3.3/libs' gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Thank Predrag From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 20:02:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE5216A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79D413C459 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:02:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7D61CCA6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:02:07 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:02:06 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46E0596D.8060404@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <46E0596D.8060404@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709062202.06249.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: FreeMAT fails to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:02:08 -0000 On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:47:57 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > `/usr/ports/math/freemat/work/FreeMat-3.3/libs/libFreeMat' > gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/math/freemat/work/FreeMat-3.3/libs/libFreeMat' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/math/freemat/work/FreeMat-3.3/libs' > gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > *** Error code 2 # make ********************************************************** * You can define the following variables: * * - WITH_ATLAS: to link with atlas * * - WITHOUT_FFTW remove FFTW support * * - WITHOUT_ARPACK remove Arpack support * * - WITHOUT_AVCALL remove FFCALL support * * - WITHOUT_UMFPACK remove UMFPACK support * * - WITHOUT_PORTAUDIO remove Audio I/O support * ********************************************************** => FreeMat-3.4.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch from http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/freemat/. FreeMat-3.4.tar.gz 100% of 5481 kB 123 kBps 00m00s ===> Extracting for FreeMat-3.4 Old port tree? I didn't get a config dialog either. # $FreeBSD: ports/math/freemat/Makefile,v 1.16 2007/08/20 13:58:38 thierry Exp $ -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 20:03:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC9B16A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB7F13C468 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l86K3DVf043021; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:03:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1189108996; bh=pwVoPY4JtVup1G JmkRqQt8GEQQ7s/R8bkveQUbWUKOc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Organization: User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc: Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version: References:To; b=chIHuGKGEBmV3uIk+4YnveyRItn6dez9UIFJgjTnygc6mjLAu Zfw9JY0z/I7ksYdC07hRALjWdq5JySGv1NFEC1KIfFVp6agDr5Nn0nIv51+t5jxafwT wJAdZdqfdTJRHmWvwe0oTlhoLuZ73gSKpVswY1grcxfc2BnFxa9N9oQ= Message-ID: <46E05D01.5050900@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:03:13 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070803) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel References: <000001c7f0b9$b1abc9b0$180ca8c0@arm.synisys.com> <200709062143.46322.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200709062143.46322.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:03:16 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/4173/Thu Sep 6 19:35:28 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Smokeping HELP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:03:22 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Mel wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:11:10 Narek Gharibyan wrote: > >> Please send me detailed instruction how to configure Smokeping. I couldn't >> configure httpd.conf also. > > I'll bite. What's smokeping? > As you could find out in under 10 seconds by STFW, smokeping is a program that monitors network performance by sending ping packets around the place at regular intervals and then graphing the round-trip-time. http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/ Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG4F0B8Mjk52CukIwRCLLcAJ4idF+qiypEtJwh8KewDP3GQsloiQCfc/bi SDmlBb09i3nljcox3SOyZYE= =c3Lo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 20:07:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4EC16A468 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ngharibyan@mail.ru) Received: from mx7.mail.ru (mx7.mail.ru [194.67.23.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D1713C491 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:07:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ngharibyan@mail.ru) Received: from [91.103.27.104] (port=16593 helo=sis2w001) by mx7.mail.ru with asmtp id 1ITNcx-000Edo-00; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:06:59 +0400 From: "Narek Gharibyan" To: "'Mel'" , References: <000001c7f0b9$b1abc9b0$180ca8c0@arm.synisys.com> <200709062143.46322.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 01:06:55 +0500 Message-ID: <000501c7f0c1$7b8a3d00$180ca8c0@arm.synisys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcfwvkoK+3RGRzGjSX67ZggqAITgggAAeqIg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 In-Reply-To: <200709062143.46322.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: RE: Smokeping HELP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:07:01 -0000 It is a outgoing connection monitoring soft for FreeBSD (as I understood :)) Uptime/delay/loss/avg and plus it keep all info in a database, do mailing, has a web interface with cgi support. Cool port. I couldn't configure it because I am a newbie in Apache, and never install such soft in FreeBSD. I tried to configure but the structure of .conf file confused me plus it wont start without any error (I didn't change anything after install). Narek -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Mel Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:44 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Smokeping HELP On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:11:10 Narek Gharibyan wrote: > Please send me detailed instruction how to configure Smokeping. I couldn't > configure httpd.conf also. I'll bite. What's smokeping? -- Mel _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 20:10:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6213616A46C for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ngharibyan@mail.ru) Received: from mx4.mail.ru (fallback.mail.ru [194.67.57.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7A113C46B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ngharibyan@mail.ru) Received: from mx34.mail.ru (mx34.mail.ru [194.67.23.200]) by mx4.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id DFE322DC52 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:09:53 +0400 (MSD) Received: from [91.103.27.104] (port=3455 helo=sis2w001) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1ITNfb-000FTu-00; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:09:43 +0400 From: "Narek Gharibyan" To: "'Mel'" References: <000001c7f0b9$b1abc9b0$180ca8c0@arm.synisys.com> <200709062143.46322.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 01:09:39 +0500 Message-ID: <000601c7f0c1$dd63d450$180ca8c0@arm.synisys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcfwvkoK+3RGRzGjSX67ZggqAITgggAA4G4g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 In-Reply-To: <200709062143.46322.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Smokeping HELP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:10:13 -0000 It is a outgoing connection monitoring soft for FreeBSD (as I understood :)) Uptime/delay/loss/avg and plus it keep all info in a database, do mailing, has a web interface with cgi support. Cool port. I couldn't configure it because I am a newbie in Apache, and never install such soft in FreeBSD. I tried to configure but the structure of .conf file confused me plus it wont start without any error (I didn't change anything after install). Narek -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Mel Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:44 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Smokeping HELP On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:11:10 Narek Gharibyan wrote: > Please send me detailed instruction how to configure Smokeping. I couldn't > configure httpd.conf also. I'll bite. What's smokeping? -- Mel _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 20:28:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E5616A420 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFA313C458 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:28:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l86KSkPs029133; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:28:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l86KSkpG029130; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:28:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:28:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Thomas Hobbes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070906222815.R29129@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Encrypting mirrored device with geli fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:28:56 -0000 > beastie_disable="YES" > geom_eli_load="YES" > geom_mirror_load="YES" > padlock_load="YES" > > Swap space is encrypted by appending '.eli' to /dev/mirror/gm0s1b in > /etc/fstab. According to the ouput of swapinfo that works fine. > > /dev/mirror/gm0s1a is mounted on / > /dev/mirror/gm0s1d is mounted on /var > /dev/mirror/gm0s1e is mounted on /usr > /dev/mirror/gm0s1f is mounted on /crypt > > I was trying to encrypt /dev/mirror/gm0s1f but a "MD5 mismatch" occurred: > # umount /crypt > # dd if=/dev/random of=/root/gm0s1f.key bs=64 count=1 > 1+0 records in > 1+0 records out > 64 bytes transferred in 0.000580 secs (110331 bytes/sec) longer.. 32k or so. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 20:39:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1A616A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phatbuckett@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC58113C491 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phatbuckett@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so196018nzf for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:39:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=VkfXrhdxk1GmcOfZh7+1TAs/YPJTNNtjZGs51k8UV10=; b=DaHz+beM5It50eyRhHsvytFyHYGKdaFOyi0vWjn8k72THNRT5aXIy3XZtoFKynINwH6ZxMqPPT4FCWuKTm694s5Cmoe0jh+fEzcGk9/fhTXLUg0jmFMOYIvzRUqmPxJwPuV/dbvaUOwg1G3/4n5eLnozhylZ3Zp+Nqo9dn4K3Ug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=svWUBlMyrAdD2lHZbm/N30ziKALeXmOSN3XZ1Onsz/ebxqWdwH+Og2lSSWL3GIZHdDg0L7j3JNJtC908kK88M+qkorp/N/sEvTUL8bpje0q3K8sJcdoTMEZ83FhNqZrHmcpjkIRFAiOgEOO4HR1CNV2ordp7X4fCGXPEBGQhjok= Received: by 10.115.15.1 with SMTP id s1mr508476wai.1189109442224; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.178.17 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <839aec700709061310m44a1f0f8p55fd7706ed3c02af@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:10:42 -0700 From: "Darren Spruell" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: nvidia-driver rebooting machine on X startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:39:24 -0000 Wondering if this is a known issue, or if anyone has suggestions to get it working...? Running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 SMP i386. I installed nvidia-driver-100.14.11 from ports (Sep. 5 snapshot), Linux compatibility enabled. After loading modules 'linux' and 'nvidia', I do: # X -configure # X -config /root/xorg.conf.new At this point the system spontaneously reboots. 'X -configure' runs fine and produces a configuration without issue, but the reboot occcurs when launching X. Nothing is output to screen (it flickers as if starting X), and nothing is written to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I do get the same behavior if running 'xorgcfg'. Card info: "NV41 [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI] rev 162" nvidia0@pci7:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x029b10de chip=0x00cd10de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' class = display subclass = VGA I've tried an alternate version of the binary driver (nvidia-driver-96xx) to see if there was any change, and it also reboots on X startup. sysctl.conf, dmesg, and Xorg configuration included below. sysctl.conf: # Recommended settings from xine package: kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864 kern.ipc.shmall=32768 # Local settings vfs.usermount=1 /var/run/dmesg.boot Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Thu Apr 26 17:55:55 UTC 2007 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP acpi_alloc_wakeup_handler: can't alloc wake memory Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5345 @ 2.33GHz (2327.51-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f7 Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4e3bd,CX16,,,> AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 4 real memory = 3219169280 (3070 MB) avail memory = 3140694016 (2995 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 netsmb_dev: loaded ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 cpu4: on acpi0 cpu5: on acpi0 cpu6: on acpi0 cpu7: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci2 pci4: on pcib4 pcib5: at device 0.3 on pci1 pci5: on pcib5 fwohci0: mem 0xdceff000-0xdcefffff irq 26 at device 5.0 on pci5 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 8. fwohci0: EUI64 00:00:d1:00:80:35:7a:57 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:00:d1:35:7a:57 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:00:d1:35:7a:57 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) pcib6: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 pcib7: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci7: on pcib7 nvidia0: mem 0xdd000000-0xddffffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff,0xde000000-0xdeffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci7 nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcib8: at device 5.0 on pci0 pci8: on pcib8 pcib9: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci9: on pcib9 pcib10: at device 7.0 on pci0 pci10: on pcib10 pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) pcib11: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci11: on pcib11 bge0: mem 0xdccf0000-0xdccfffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci11 bge0: firmware handshake timed out miibus0: on bge0 brgphy0: on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto bge0: Ethernet address: 00:1a:a0:ac:eb:69 uhci0: port 0xff80-0xff9f irq 21 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xff60-0xff7f irq 22 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xff40-0xff5f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xff20-0xff3f irq 23 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xff980800-0xff980bff irq 21 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: waiting for BIOS to give up control usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered uhub5: NEC Corporation USB2.0 Hub Controller, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 uhub5: single transaction translator uhub5: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib12: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci12: on pcib12 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf irq 16 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xfe00-0xfe07,0xfe10-0xfe13,0xfe20-0xfe27,0xfe30-0xfe33,0xfec0-0xfedf mem 0xff970000-0xff9703ff irq 20 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci1: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 6 ports detected ata2: on atapci1 ata3: on atapci1 ata4: on atapci1 ata5: on atapci1 ata6: on atapci1 ata7: on atapci1 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcbfff,0xcc000-0xcdfff,0xce000-0xd2fff,0xd3000-0xd3fff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 uhub6: Dell Dell USB Keyboard Hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/48.01, addr 2 uhub6: 3 ports with 2 removable, bus powered ukbd0: Dell Dell USB Keyboard Hub, rev 1.10/48.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1 kbd2 at ukbd0 uhid0: Dell Dell USB Keyboard Hub, rev 1.10/48.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1 ums0: vendor 0x0461 USB Optical Mouse, rev 2.00/2.00, addr 4, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec acd0: DVDR at ata0-master UDMA33 ad4: 152587MB at ata2-master SATA300 ad6: 152587MB at ata3-master SATA300 ar0: 152585MB status: READY ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #6 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #7 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #4 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #5 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ar0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted /tmp: mount pending error: blocks 0 files 1 WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted bge0: firmware handshake timed out xorg.conf.new Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "glx" Load "freetype" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "NV41 [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI]" BusID "PCI:7:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection -- Darren Spruell phatbuckett@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 20:42:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DF816A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DAD13C457 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED241CCA6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:42:20 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:42:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <000001c7f0b9$b1abc9b0$180ca8c0@arm.synisys.com> <200709062143.46322.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <000601c7f0c1$dd63d450$180ca8c0@arm.synisys.com> In-Reply-To: <000601c7f0c1$dd63d450$180ca8c0@arm.synisys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709062242.19418.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: Smokeping HELP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:42:21 -0000 On Thursday 06 September 2007 22:09:39 Narek Gharibyan wrote: > It is a outgoing connection monitoring soft for FreeBSD (as I understood > :)) Uptime/delay/loss/avg and plus it keep all info in a database, do > mailing, has a web interface with cgi support. Cool port. Sounds cool indeed. And it's in ports (good to know). > I couldn't configure it because I am a newbie in Apache, and never install > such soft in FreeBSD. Good to know too. Makes it easier to help you, when we know what you're familiar with. > I tried to configure but the structure of .conf file > confused me plus it wont start without any error (I didn't change anything > after install). OK, I just installed it, pkg-message said: NOTE: A set of sample configuration files have been installed: /usr/local/etc/smokeping/config /usr/local/etc/smokeping/smokemail /usr/local/etc/smokeping/basepage.html /usr/local/etc/smokeping/tmail You *MUST* edit these to suit your requirements. Please read the manpages 'smokeping_install' and 'smokeping_config' for further details on installation and configuration. Looking at that by man smokeping_install it looks very detailed, but if you've never set up anything with apache can be quite hard. A quick glance tells me that the port took care of most of the installation already. The only thing that's left is configuration of above mentioned files, which only you can do. To get it working fast: in /usr/local/etc/smokeping/config, change line: cgiurl = http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/smokeping/smokeping.cgi to: cgiurl = http://your.web.server/cgi/smokeping.cgi Then edit /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: Add the following line: ScriptAlias /cgi/smokeping.cgi /usr/local/smokeping/htdocs/smokeping.cgi (There's another ScriptAlias line in the default httpd.conf, so you can put this line right below or above that). Now things *should* work. If not, read the manpage smokeping_config carefully or report any errors you get to the list. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 20:52:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB7D16A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sellis@telus.net) Received: from mx01.telus.net (mx01.telus.net [204.209.205.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B5213C459 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sellis@telus.net) Received: from priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net ([154.20.93.49]) by priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20070906205230.SQCC5529.priv-edmwes24.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net>; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:52:30 -0600 Received: from d154-20-93-49.bchsia.telus.net (d154-20-93-49.bchsia.telus.net [154.20.93.49]) by priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 2FF0J2CHP9; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:52:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from telus.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d154-20-93-49.bchsia.telus.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l86KqB2q031380; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:52:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sellis@telus.net) Received: (from sellis@localhost) by telus.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id l86Kpt2e031379; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sellis@telus.net) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:51:55 -0700 From: Sean Ellis To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20070906205155.GF78764@telus.net> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kstewart@owt.com, punosevac@math.arizona.edu References: <20070906174826.GE78764@telus.net> <46E05293.6040303@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46E05293.6040303@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: punosevac@math.arizona.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kstewart@owt.com Subject: Re: can't `make index` on 4.11-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sellis@telus.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:52:31 -0000 On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 08:18:43PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > Sean Ellis wrote: > > > I have a problem trying to `make index` on a machine running 4.11-STABLE > > after cvsup-ing the ports tree. > > 4.x has been dropped from support by the ports tree. Several months > ago now. It's never going to work, > thanks for this, and for the other replies that I've received. It looks as if I won't be able to avoid a big overhaul if that machine is to keep the benefits of the ports system, thanks, Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 21:06:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5703C16A420 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:06:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266D813C474 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114731CCA6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:06:43 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:06:42 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <839aec700709061310m44a1f0f8p55fd7706ed3c02af@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <839aec700709061310m44a1f0f8p55fd7706ed3c02af@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709062306.42825.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: nvidia-driver rebooting machine on X startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:06:45 -0000 On Thursday 06 September 2007 22:10:42 Darren Spruell wrote: > Wondering if this is a known issue, or if anyone has suggestions to > get it working...? > > Running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 SMP i386. > > I installed nvidia-driver-100.14.11 from ports (Sep. 5 snapshot), > Linux compatibility enabled. After loading modules 'linux' and > 'nvidia', I do: > > # X -configure > # X -config /root/xorg.conf.new > > At this point the system spontaneously reboots. 'X -configure' runs > fine and produces a configuration without issue, but the reboot > occcurs when launching X. Nothing is output to screen (it flickers as > if starting X), and nothing is written to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I do > get the same behavior if running 'xorgcfg'. > > Card info: > > "NV41 [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI] rev 162" > > nvidia0@pci7:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x029b10de chip=0x00cd10de > rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' > class = display > subclass = VGA > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "nVidia Corporation" > BoardName "NV41 [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI]" > BusID "PCI:7:0:0" > EndSection Removing BusID do anything? All those Displays sounds a bit much too. I *strongly* recommend using nvidia-xconfig (x11/nvidia-config). And anything /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Using nvAgp or FreeBSD Agp? -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 21:08:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE4516A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7524213C47E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITOam-0006EY-PP for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:08:49 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ITOak-0006ED-Cw; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:08:46 -0700 Message-ID: <46E06B70.1050801@math.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:04:48 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel , questions@freebsd.org References: <46E0596D.8060404@math.arizona.edu> <200709062202.06249.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200709062202.06249.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeMAT fails to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:08:19 -0000 Thanks I am doing portsnap fetch && portsnap extract && portsnap update I hope to get newer port three (I got this one 20 days ago I thought I would be OK) I will change the make as you outlined Thanks a LOT Predrag Mel wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:47:57 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > >> `/usr/ports/math/freemat/work/FreeMat-3.3/libs/libFreeMat' >> gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 >> gmake[2]: Leaving directory >> `/usr/ports/math/freemat/work/FreeMat-3.3/libs/libFreeMat' >> gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >> gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/math/freemat/work/FreeMat-3.3/libs' >> gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 >> *** Error code 2 >> > > # make > ********************************************************** > * You can define the following variables: * > * - WITH_ATLAS: to link with atlas * > * - WITHOUT_FFTW remove FFTW support * > * - WITHOUT_ARPACK remove Arpack support * > * - WITHOUT_AVCALL remove FFCALL support * > * - WITHOUT_UMFPACK remove UMFPACK support * > * - WITHOUT_PORTAUDIO remove Audio I/O support * > ********************************************************** > => FreeMat-3.4.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. > => Attempting to fetch from > http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/freemat/. > FreeMat-3.4.tar.gz 100% of 5481 kB 123 kBps 00m00s > ===> Extracting for FreeMat-3.4 > > Old port tree? I didn't get a config dialog either. > # $FreeBSD: ports/math/freemat/Makefile,v 1.16 2007/08/20 13:58:38 thierry Exp > $ > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 21:21:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB2B16A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [66.92.130.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3829013C465 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l86LL4eE056565 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:21:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <46E06F40.8050500@tundraware.com> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:21:04 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <46DECDBB.3000906@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.2 Hangs Probing Floppy During Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:21:09 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > Tim Daneliuk wrote: > >> During the boot probe, FreeBSD 6.2 (Release or -STABLE) hangs for >> several minutes >> while probing the floppy. Eventually, it does get through it, but >> it takes >> a loooong time. Disabling the floppy in the machine BIOS makes the >> problem >> go away because FBSD sees no floppy to probe, but that's not an optimal >> soltion. > > Have you tried adding hint.fd.0.disabled="1" and hint.fdc.0.disabled="1" > to your loader.conf (or device.hints)? I don't know it it will work, > it's just something you could try. > I have not. If I do this, will it actually disable the floppy/controller? The issue for me is that I want to be able to actually use the floppy when I need it, I just don't want to have wait multiple minutes while the kernel figures out there is not floppy in the drive at boot time... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 21:23:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A8816A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D0513C46E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ITOoc-0008Ga-TM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:23:06 +0200 Received: from 67-166-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net ([91.124.166.67]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:23:06 +0200 Received: from c.kworr by 67-166-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:23:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:20:40 +0300 Organization: Synergetica OC Lines: 71 Message-ID: References: <12513880.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67-166-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 In-Reply-To: <12513880.post@talk.nabble.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: Nginx + FastCGI + PHP5 on FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:23:13 -0000 Peter Pluta wrote: > If anyone has a better method of getting it to work please do share it. I'd > like to get it to work and possibly write a small guide aim'd at FreeBSD > users. nginx.conf snippet: server { listen *:80; server_name ...; root ...; access_log /var/log/nginx/....access.log; index index.php; location ~ .*\.php$ { include /usr/local/etc/nginx/fastcgi_params; fastcgi_pass unix:/tmp/.fastcgi.www/socket; fastcgi_index index.php; fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME ...$fastcgi_script_name; } } /usr/local/etc/rc.d/phpFcgid script: #!/bin/sh # PROVIDE: phpFcgid # REQUIRE: LOGIN # KEYWORD: shutdown . /etc/rc.subr name="phpFcgid" rcvar=`set_rcvar` load_rc_config $name : ${phpFcgid_enable="NO"} : ${phpFcgid_users="www"} : ${phpFcgid_children="2"} start_cmd=phpFcgid_start stop_cmd=phpFcgid_stop phpFcgid_start() { echo "Starting $name." export PHP_FCGI_CHILDREN=${phpFcgid_chidlren} for user in ${phpFcgid_users}; do socketdir="/tmp/.fastcgi.${user}" mkdir -p ${socketdir} chown ${user}:www ${socketdir} chmod 0750 ${socketdir} su -m ${user} -c "/usr/local/bin/php-cgi -b ${socketdir}/socket&" done } phpFcgid_stop() { echo "Stopping $name." pids=`pgrep php-cgi` pkill php-cgi wait_for_pids $pids } run_rc_command "$1" Also put this to your /etc/rc.conf file: phpFcgid_enable='yes' -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 21:23:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6370816A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A77013C4B3 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771B31CCD0 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:23:29 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:23:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <46E0596D.8060404@math.arizona.edu> <200709062202.06249.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <46E06B70.1050801@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <46E06B70.1050801@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709062323.16972.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: FreeMAT fails to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:23:30 -0000 On Thursday 06 September 2007 23:04:48 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Thanks I am doing portsnap fetch && portsnap extract && portsnap update > I hope to get newer port three (I got this one 20 days ago I thought I > would be OK) > I will change the make as you outlined I just noticed why the error occurred. It's using QT4, not QT3. So be ready to pull in some extra deps... -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 21:24:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A9016A421 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gs_stoller@juno.com) Received: from outbound-mail.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A554413C45D for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gs_stoller@juno.com) Received: from webmail18.dca.untd.com (webmail18.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.158]) by smtpout04.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABDQA4PQAWDB2KA for (sender ); Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:57:18 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: /s5f1SIGSI3+WdnoYQ8yROjR373bknCq7mkmBmj89vExAsG0WR7O9g== Received: (from gs_stoller@juno.com) by webmail18.dca.untd.com (jqueuemail) id MWYYUUR9; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:57:13 PDT Received: from [71.251.0.101] by webmail18.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:57:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [71.251.0.101] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "gs_stoller@juno.com" Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:57:04 GMT To: robin@reportlab.com X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Message-Id: <20070906.165704.14591.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ContentStamp: 3:4:1662608668 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.171.12.158|webmail18.dca.untd.com|webmail18.dca.untd.com|gs_stoller@juno.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: temporary su login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:24:22 -0000 Robin Becker wrote: > My collocation supplier is about to move our FreeBSD box and wants som= e = > way to shut it down cleanly. Is there a simple way to allow a non-root= = > user to have shutdown rights without just giving them the world. At = > present I don't even allow login via ssh on that box ie it's purely ke= y = > based. What I would do is develop a script (owned by root ) and callable by everybody which then checks the user-id of its caller, and if it is an acceptable one, the script will issue a warning (to wall) and then shutdown the system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 21:35:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F40116A494 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70FB13C4DE for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ITP0B-0001IB-37 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:35:03 +0200 Received: from 67-166-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net ([91.124.166.67]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:35:03 +0200 Received: from arcade by 67-166-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:35:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:18:01 +0300 Organization: Synergetica OC Lines: 67 Message-ID: References: <12513880.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67-166-124-91.pool.ukrtel.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070807 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 In-Reply-To: <12513880.post@talk.nabble.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: Nginx + FastCGI + PHP5 on FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:35:18 -0000 Peter Pluta wrote: nginx.conf snippet: server { listen *:80; server_name ...; root ...; access_log /var/log/nginx/....access.log; index index.php; location ~ .*\.php$ { include /usr/local/etc/nginx/fastcgi_params; fastcgi_pass unix:/tmp/.fastcgi.www/socket; fastcgi_index index.php; fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME ...$fastcgi_script_name; } } /usr/local/etc/rc.d/phpFcgid script: #!/bin/sh # PROVIDE: phpFcgid # REQUIRE: LOGIN # KEYWORD: shutdown . /etc/rc.subr name="phpFcgid" rcvar=`set_rcvar` load_rc_config $name : ${phpFcgid_enable="NO"} : ${phpFcgid_users="www"} : ${phpFcgid_children="2"} start_cmd=phpFcgid_start stop_cmd=phpFcgid_stop phpFcgid_start() { echo "Starting $name." export PHP_FCGI_CHILDREN=${phpFcgid_chidlren} for user in ${phpFcgid_users}; do socketdir="/tmp/.fastcgi.${user}" mkdir -p ${socketdir} chown ${user}:www ${socketdir} chmod 0750 ${socketdir} su -m ${user} -c "/usr/local/bin/php-cgi -b ${socketdir}/socket&" done } phpFcgid_stop() { echo "Stopping $name." pids=`pgrep php-cgi` pkill php-cgi wait_for_pids $pids } run_rc_command "$1" Also put this to your /etc/rc.conf file: phpFcgid_enable='yes' -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 21:35:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6FF16A46E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48F3113C509 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 37365 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2007 21:35:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:thread-index:X-MimeOLE; b=kK1c+djSdj45Co/SJ3XU4s7Swt8aCGx0oKhlJtDhN8xCAl4slsDLzul9W6UHbr8p1n90HW8T8cyvb/1E+XG0n7Qw0QaEbpSySnfAz6UEntCHx4+DEvSSG+n4HoAOG+wKO30rQRbfa6iimhwhWSH6mqFyYBoVZVXyFDDVb3eFsHM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@99.224.65.182 with login) by smtp107.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2007 21:35:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: NZRrO5MVM1lqNc87FcrBcxwrJu72kVHA7Lj1TUNwswC4_h8tiJIL.bV.Doy7iF9gFw-- From: "Tamouh H." To: , References: <20070906.165704.14591.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:36:11 -0400 Message-ID: <106801c7f0cd$f202a510$6900a8c0@tamouh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20070906.165704.14591.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com> thread-index: AcfwzG5tgiVrvK+ETtKi0l8LhgUdGAAAWUMQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: temporary su login X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:35:46 -0000 >=20 > Robin Becker wrote: > > My collocation supplier is about to move our FreeBSD box and wants=20 > > some way to shut it down cleanly. Is there a simple way to allow a=20 > > non-root user to have shutdown rights without just giving them the=20 > > world. At present I don't even allow login via ssh on that=20 > box ie it's=20 > > purely key based. > What I would do is develop a script (owned by root )=20 > and callable by everybody which then checks the user-id of=20 > its caller, and if it is an acceptable one, the script will=20 > issue a warning (to wall) and then shutdown the system. >=20 why not ask them to do CTRL+ALT+DEL which will reboot the server cleanly = and once it hit does the intial reset, turn it off. Tamouh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 21:52:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3610116A421 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEE513C478 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITPHl-0006a1-O4 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:53:14 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ITPHg-0006Zh-Gt; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:53:08 -0700 Message-ID: <46E076A3.7060907@math.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:52:35 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070713) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel , questions@freebsd.org References: <46E0596D.8060404@math.arizona.edu> <200709062202.06249.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <46E06B70.1050801@math.arizona.edu> <200709062323.16972.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200709062323.16972.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeMAT fails to compile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:52:53 -0000 I was about to write you a mail about success when I came to same realization I am doing portupgrade of some packages at the moment Thanks Mel wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2007 23:04:48 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> Thanks I am doing portsnap fetch && portsnap extract && portsnap update >> I hope to get newer port three (I got this one 20 days ago I thought I >> would be OK) >> I will change the make as you outlined >> > > I just noticed why the error occurred. It's using QT4, not QT3. So be ready to > pull in some extra deps... > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 22:08:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87F716A527 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA4313C469 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l86M8S3v026291; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:08:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070906170214.026e63f8@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:08:05 -0500 To: "Darren Spruell" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <839aec700709061310m44a1f0f8p55fd7706ed3c02af@mail.gmail.co m> References: <839aec700709061310m44a1f0f8p55fd7706ed3c02af@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: nvidia-driver rebooting machine on X startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:08:42 -0000 At 03:10 PM 9/6/2007, Darren Spruell wrote: >Wondering if this is a known issue, or if anyone has suggestions to >get it working...? > >Running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 SMP i386. > >I installed nvidia-driver-100.14.11 from ports (Sep. 5 snapshot), >Linux compatibility enabled. After loading modules 'linux' and >'nvidia', I do: > ># X -configure ># X -config /root/xorg.conf.new > >At this point the system spontaneously reboots. 'X -configure' runs >fine and produces a configuration without issue, but the reboot >occcurs when launching X. Nothing is output to screen (it flickers as >if starting X), and nothing is written to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I do >get the same behavior if running 'xorgcfg'. > >Card info: > >"NV41 [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI] rev 162" > >nvidia0@pci7:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x029b10de chip=0x00cd10de >rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' > class = display > subclass = VGA > >I've tried an alternate version of the binary driver >(nvidia-driver-96xx) to see if there was any change, and it also >reboots on X startup. > >sysctl.conf, dmesg, and Xorg configuration included below. > >sysctl.conf: > ># Recommended settings from xine package: >kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864 >kern.ipc.shmall=32768 ># Local settings >vfs.usermount=1 > >/var/run/dmesg.boot > >Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. >Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. >FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. >FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 #0: Thu Apr 26 17:55:55 UTC 2007 > root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP >acpi_alloc_wakeup_handler: can't alloc wake memory >Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 >CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5345 @ 2.33GHz (2327.51-MHz >686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f7 Stepping = 7 > >Features=0xbfebfbff > >Features2=0x4e3bd,CX16,,,> > AMD Features=0x20100000 > AMD Features2=0x1 > Cores per package: 4 >real memory = 3219169280 (3070 MB) >avail memory = 3140694016 (2995 MB) >ACPI APIC Table: >FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 8 CPUs > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 > cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 4 > cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 5 > cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 7 >ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 >ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9 >ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard >ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard >kbd1 at kbdmux0 >netsmb_dev: loaded >ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) >acpi0: on motherboard >acpi0: Power Button (fixed) >Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 >acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 >cpu0: on acpi0 >cpu1: on acpi0 >cpu2: on acpi0 >cpu3: on acpi0 >cpu4: on acpi0 >cpu5: on acpi0 >cpu6: on acpi0 >cpu7: on acpi0 >acpi_button0: on acpi0 >pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 >pci0: on pcib0 >pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 >pci1: on pcib1 >pcib2: irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 >pci2: on pcib2 >pcib3: irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 >pci3: on pcib3 >pcib4: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci2 >pci4: on pcib4 >pcib5: at device 0.3 on pci1 >pci5: on pcib5 >fwohci0: mem 0xdceff000-0xdcefffff irq 26 at device >5.0 on pci5 >fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1) >fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 8. >fwohci0: EUI64 00:00:d1:00:80:35:7a:57 >fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports. >fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. >firewire0: on fwohci0 >fwe0: on firewire0 >if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:00:d1:35:7a:57 >fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:00:d1:35:7a:57 >fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant >sbp0: on firewire0 >fwohci0: Initiate bus reset >fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode >firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) >firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) >pcib6: at device 3.0 on pci0 >pci6: on pcib6 >pcib7: at device 4.0 on pci0 >pci7: on pcib7 >nvidia0: mem >0xdd000000-0xddffffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff,0xde000000-0xdeffffff irq >16 at device 0.0 on pci7 >nvidia0: [GIANT-LOCKED] >pcib8: at device 5.0 on pci0 >pci8: on pcib8 >pcib9: at device 6.0 on pci0 >pci9: on pcib9 >pcib10: at device 7.0 on pci0 >pci10: on pcib10 >pci0: at device 27.0 (no driver attached) >pcib11: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 >pci11: on pcib11 >bge0: mem >0xdccf0000-0xdccfffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci11 >bge0: firmware handshake timed out >miibus0: on bge0 >brgphy0: on miibus0 >brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, >1000baseTX-FDX, auto >bge0: Ethernet address: 00:1a:a0:ac:eb:69 >uhci0: port 0xff80-0xff9f irq 21 at >device 29.0 on pci0 >uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] >usb0: on uhci0 >usb0: USB revision 1.0 >uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 >uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered >uhci1: port 0xff60-0xff7f irq 22 at >device 29.1 on pci0 >uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] >usb1: on uhci1 >usb1: USB revision 1.0 >uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 >uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered >uhci2: port 0xff40-0xff5f irq 18 at >device 29.2 on pci0 >uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] >usb2: on uhci2 >usb2: USB revision 1.0 >uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 >uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered >uhci3: port 0xff20-0xff3f irq 23 at >device 29.3 on pci0 >uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] >usb3: on uhci3 >usb3: USB revision 1.0 >uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 >uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered >ehci0: mem 0xff980800-0xff980bff >irq 21 at device 29.7 on pci0 >ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] >usb4: waiting for BIOS to give up control >usb4: EHCI version 1.0 >usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 >usb4: on ehci0 >usb4: USB revision 2.0 >uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 >uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered >uhub5: NEC Corporation USB2.0 Hub Controller, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 >uhub5: single transaction translator >uhub5: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered >pcib12: at device 30.0 on pci0 >pci12: on pcib12 >isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 >isa0: on isab0 >atapci0: port >0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf irq 16 at device >31.1 on pci0 >ata0: on atapci0 >ata1: on atapci0 >atapci1: port >0xfe00-0xfe07,0xfe10-0xfe13,0xfe20-0xfe27,0xfe30-0xfe33,0xfec0-0xfedf >mem 0xff970000-0xff9703ff irq 20 at device 31.2 on pci0 >atapci1: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 6 ports detected >ata2: on atapci1 >ata3: on atapci1 >ata4: on atapci1 >ata5: on atapci1 >ata6: on atapci1 >ata7: on atapci1 >pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) >fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 >fdc0: [FAST] >fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 >ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77f irq 7 on acpi0 >ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode >ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold >ppbus0: on ppc0 >plip0: on ppbus0 >lpt0: on ppbus0 >lpt0: Interrupt-driven port >ppi0: on ppbus0 >sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 >sio0: type 16550A >sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 >sio1: type 16550A >pmtimer0 on isa0 >orm0: at iomem >0xc0000-0xcbfff,0xcc000-0xcdfff,0xce000-0xd2fff,0xd3000-0xd3fff on >isa0 >atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 >atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 >kbd0 at atkbd0 >atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] >sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 >sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> >vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 >uhub6: Dell Dell USB Keyboard Hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/48.01, addr 2 >uhub6: 3 ports with 2 removable, bus powered >ukbd0: Dell Dell USB Keyboard Hub, rev 1.10/48.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1 >kbd2 at ukbd0 >uhid0: Dell Dell USB Keyboard Hub, rev 1.10/48.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1 >ums0: vendor 0x0461 USB Optical Mouse, rev 2.00/2.00, addr 4, iclass 3/1 >ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. >Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec >acd0: DVDR at ata0-master UDMA33 >ad4: 152587MB at ata2-master SATA300 >ad6: 152587MB at ata3-master SATA300 >ar0: 152585MB status: READY >ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master >ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master >SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! >SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! >SMP: AP CPU #6 Launched! >SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! >SMP: AP CPU #7 Launched! >SMP: AP CPU #4 Launched! >SMP: AP CPU #5 Launched! >Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ar0s1a >WARNING: / was not properly dismounted >WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted >/tmp: mount pending error: blocks 0 files 1 >WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted >WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted >bge0: firmware handshake timed out > >xorg.conf.new > >Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >EndSection > >Section "Files" > RgbPath "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb" > ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" >EndSection > >Section "Module" > Load "dbe" > Load "dri" > Load "extmod" > Load "record" > Load "xtrap" > Load "glx" > Load "freetype" > Load "type1" >EndSection > >Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" >EndSection > >Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" >EndSection > >Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "Monitor Model" >EndSection > >Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "nVidia Corporation" > BoardName "NV41 [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI]" > BusID "PCI:7:0:0" >EndSection > >Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 1 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 4 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 8 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 15 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 16 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > EndSubSection >EndSection > >-- Check your AGP settings and consult the readme, chapter 9, for the latest driver. You should be running the latest driver with your card. Make sure you have the correct AGP settings, either letting FreeBSD do it in the kernel or disable the kernel and let the Nvidia driver manage it. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 22:16:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C55716A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phatbuckett@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE03B13C467 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phatbuckett@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so325627waf for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:16:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ELkI5W9vEEZJXAqJz3JP39U0EcU/F9meyt2ai0R46pA=; b=a8F4jLIRucwafBoX5GWF0hXutMeiSXI7t6/Ng/8kqHJv22rDpRjnxSZ5qV/P4VvsHpphT6VVd+R0nzyMwBPicKDKVFFYK7GGBewF4z3H5zkEnRFrwIvDhK28A+NCaqn+R1fsSJ68AlL3nDgmOLrLiJEg+a/YfJtk9T8Mw9MdMSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CWWTBUFquinsuOy13hrJLCkqa6B8Z78n3FgZllWr0Qh+HDcISYwVlB4dTph4a9KAavNiVZY4yoxi113divnHwShnlG1qhlthd4HdmcAYg9ymfhNVzUUub7I8NrYiPBGa2+FKJQsR1FJP8/fN1KRcoTxb+yFpfKCA/bzWhYYjglc= Received: by 10.114.176.1 with SMTP id y1mr534620wae.1189117004943; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.178.17 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <839aec700709061516x52866bd0u903adbbd16a3f1ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:16:44 -0700 From: "Darren Spruell" To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200709062306.42825.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <839aec700709061310m44a1f0f8p55fd7706ed3c02af@mail.gmail.com> <200709062306.42825.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nvidia-driver rebooting machine on X startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:16:46 -0000 On 9/6/07, Mel wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2007 22:10:42 Darren Spruell wrote: > > Wondering if this is a known issue, or if anyone has suggestions to > > get it working...? > > > > Running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 SMP i386. > > > > I installed nvidia-driver-100.14.11 from ports (Sep. 5 snapshot), > > Linux compatibility enabled. After loading modules 'linux' and > > 'nvidia', I do: > > > > # X -configure > > # X -config /root/xorg.conf.new > > > > At this point the system spontaneously reboots. 'X -configure' runs > > fine and produces a configuration without issue, but the reboot > > occcurs when launching X. Nothing is output to screen (it flickers as > > if starting X), and nothing is written to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I do > > get the same behavior if running 'xorgcfg'. > > > > Card info: > > > > "NV41 [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI] rev 162" > > > > nvidia0@pci7:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x029b10de chip=0x00cd10de > > rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' > > class = display > > subclass = VGA > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Card0" > > Driver "nvidia" > > VendorName "nVidia Corporation" > > BoardName "NV41 [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI]" > > BusID "PCI:7:0:0" > > EndSection > > Removing BusID do anything? All those Displays sounds a bit much too. I > *strongly* recommend using nvidia-xconfig (x11/nvidia-config). Commenting BusID has the same effect - prompt reboot. The Display subsections are pretty standard for every X configuration I've ever used; why would they cause a problem in this case? > And anything /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Using nvAgp or FreeBSD Agp? No, nothing gets to the log before reboot occurs. Not using either of nvAgp or FreeBSD Agp, that I'm aware of. I did not enable FREEBSD_AGP at build time. DS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 22:44:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA3216A417 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (66-230-99-27-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A001C13C49D for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792461CCA6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:44:13 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:44:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <839aec700709061310m44a1f0f8p55fd7706ed3c02af@mail.gmail.com> <200709062306.42825.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <839aec700709061516x52866bd0u903adbbd16a3f1ff@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <839aec700709061516x52866bd0u903adbbd16a3f1ff@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709070044.12229.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: nvidia-driver rebooting machine on X startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:44:19 -0000 On Friday 07 September 2007 00:16:44 Darren Spruell wrote: > On 9/6/07, Mel wrote: > > On Thursday 06 September 2007 22:10:42 Darren Spruell wrote: > > > Wondering if this is a known issue, or if anyone has suggestions to > > > get it working...? > > > > > > Running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 SMP i386. > > > > > > I installed nvidia-driver-100.14.11 from ports (Sep. 5 snapshot), > > > Linux compatibility enabled. After loading modules 'linux' and > > > 'nvidia', I do: > > > > > > # X -configure > > > # X -config /root/xorg.conf.new > > > > > > At this point the system spontaneously reboots. 'X -configure' runs > > > fine and produces a configuration without issue, but the reboot > > > occcurs when launching X. Nothing is output to screen (it flickers as > > > if starting X), and nothing is written to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I do > > > get the same behavior if running 'xorgcfg'. > > > > > > Card info: > > > > > > "NV41 [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI] rev 162" > > > > > > nvidia0@pci7:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x029b10de chip=0x00cd10de > > > rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 > > > vendor = 'NVIDIA Corporation' > > > class = display > > > subclass = VGA > > > > > > Section "Device" > > > Identifier "Card0" > > > Driver "nvidia" > > > VendorName "nVidia Corporation" > > > BoardName "NV41 [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI]" > > > BusID "PCI:7:0:0" > > > EndSection > > > > Removing BusID do anything? All those Displays sounds a bit much too. I > > *strongly* recommend using nvidia-xconfig (x11/nvidia-config). > > Commenting BusID has the same effect - prompt reboot. > > The Display subsections are pretty standard for every X configuration > I've ever used; why would they cause a problem in this case? Cause I checked 3 working nvidia xorg configs for 3 different cards and none of them has Section Display in them, let alone 20 of them :p > > And anything /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Using nvAgp or FreeBSD Agp? > > No, nothing gets to the log before reboot occurs. > > Not using either of nvAgp or FreeBSD Agp, that I'm aware of. I did not > enable FREEBSD_AGP at build time. Run nvidia-xconfig, it'll generate a much cleaner xorg.conf file, enable nvAgp and load a few less extensions. If that one works, you can start diffing and adding things again to figure out the cause (if you're interested :p). Also check /boot/device.hints and disable Agp there. A GeForce 6200 for instance, insists on it, while other cards don't, but I never had one reboot the machine. I just get: agp0: mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 NVRM: detected agp.ko, aborting NVIDIA AGP setup! echo 'hint.agp.0.disabled="1"' >>/boot/device.hints should do it. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 23:15:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277E716A419 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp102.math.arizona.edu (smtp102.math.arizona.edu [128.196.102.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4DA13C46C for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITQZE-0004zn-0m for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:15:20 -0700 Received: from 71-220-146-155.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.146.155] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ITQZD-0004zY-Rw for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:15:19 -0700 Message-ID: <46E08A05.6020904@math.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:15:17 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070713) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <46E0596D.8060404@math.arizona.edu> <200709062202.06249.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <46E06B70.1050801@math.arizona.edu> <200709062323.16972.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200709062323.16972.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeMAT compiled :-) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:15:24 -0000 It is my great pleasure to report that I have FreeMat on my system Mel Thanks a lot body! Mel wrote: > On Thursday 06 September 2007 23:04:48 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> Thanks I am doing portsnap fetch && portsnap extract && portsnap update >> I hope to get newer port three (I got this one 20 days ago I thought I >> would be OK) >> I will change the make as you outlined >> > > I just noticed why the error occurred. It's using QT4, not QT3. So be ready to > pull in some extra deps... > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 23:30:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460EA16A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaj@hcl-club.lu) Received: from 0b10111.de (hcl-club.lu [62.75.155.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1024613C480 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaj@hcl-club.lu) Received: from spaceman.my.domain (d90-129-9-224.cust.tele2.lu [90.129.9.224]) by 0b10111.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F4C872C466; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 01:30:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 01:29:58 +0200 From: Jona Joachim To: "Darren Spruell" Message-ID: <20070907012958.70a96fe4@spaceman.my.domain> In-Reply-To: <839aec700709061310m44a1f0f8p55fd7706ed3c02af@mail.gmail.com> References: <839aec700709061310m44a1f0f8p55fd7706ed3c02af@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.13; x86_64-unknown-openbsd4.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nvidia-driver rebooting machine on X startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:30:04 -0000 On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:10:42 -0700 "Darren Spruell" wrote: > Wondering if this is a known issue, or if anyone has suggestions to > get it working...? > > Running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 SMP i386. > > I installed nvidia-driver-100.14.11 from ports (Sep. 5 snapshot), > Linux compatibility enabled. After loading modules 'linux' and > 'nvidia', I do: > > # X -configure > # X -config /root/xorg.conf.new > > At this point the system spontaneously reboots. 'X -configure' runs > fine and produces a configuration without issue, but the reboot > occcurs when launching X. Nothing is output to screen (it flickers as > if starting X), and nothing is written to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I do > get the same behavior if running 'xorgcfg'. Did you reinstall/upgrade X after having installed nvidia-driver? X actually overwrites libraries that nvidia-driver installs so you have to reinstall nvidia-driver every time you upgrade X. I remember having had some bad crashes some time ago because X overwrote nvidia GLX libraries. 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Including; Organisation names Program names Program descriptions Addresses Telephones Organization Url's (web sites) and program Url's (web sites) CD-Rom (.pdf) or printed (430 pages) Cd-Rom......................$69.95 Printed....................$149.95 To obtain a copy please call toll free: 1-866-322-3376 Remove freebsd-questions@freebsd.org at delete2007@mailcan.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 23:57:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C78116A418 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from surferdamon@verizon.net) Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net (vms048pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1139F13C457 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from surferdamon@verizon.net) Received: from presario1.com ([72.87.132.52]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JNZ00C1W18CRPC7@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:57:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:57:51 -0700 From: Damon Blom To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <46E093FF.7020607@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070811) Cc: Subject: astronomy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:57:58 -0000 Hi s2plot from astronomy.swin.edu.au/s2plot seems like quite an interesting program and has linux, darwin and cygwin downloads. Would anyone from freebsd be interested in adding it to ports? Thank's Damon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 6 23:58:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E847216A41B for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD00313C481 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ITREa-00078S-F3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:58:04 -0700 Message-ID: <12533660.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:58:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Pluta To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: peter@placidpublishing.net References: <12513880.post@talk.nabble.com> Subject: Re: Nginx + FastCGI + PHP5 on FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:58:05 -0000 Volodymyr Kostyrko-2 wrote: > > Peter Pluta wrote: > > nginx.conf snippet: > > server { > listen *:80; > server_name ...; > root ...; > access_log /var/log/nginx/....access.log; > index index.php; > > location ~ .*\.php$ { > include /usr/local/etc/nginx/fastcgi_params; > fastcgi_pass unix:/tmp/.fastcgi.www/socket; > fastcgi_index index.php; > fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME ...$fastcgi_script_name; > } > } > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d/phpFcgid script: > > #!/bin/sh > > # PROVIDE: phpFcgid > # REQUIRE: LOGIN > # KEYWORD: shutdown > > . /etc/rc.subr > > name="phpFcgid" > rcvar=`set_rcvar` > > load_rc_config $name > : ${phpFcgid_enable="NO"} > : ${phpFcgid_users="www"} > : ${phpFcgid_children="2"} > > start_cmd=phpFcgid_start > stop_cmd=phpFcgid_stop > > phpFcgid_start() { > echo "Starting $name." > export PHP_FCGI_CHILDREN=${phpFcgid_chidlren} > for user in ${phpFcgid_users}; do > socketdir="/tmp/.fastcgi.${user}" > mkdir -p ${socketdir} > chown ${user}:www ${socketdir} > chmod 0750 ${socketdir} > su -m ${user} -c "/usr/local/bin/php-cgi -b ${socketdir}/socket&" > done > } > > phpFcgid_stop() { > echo "Stopping $name." > pids=`pgrep php-cgi` > pkill php-cgi > wait_for_pids $pids > } > > run_rc_command "$1" > > Also put this to your /etc/rc.conf file: > > phpFcgid_enable='yes' > > -- > Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Thanks Volodymyr, I appreciate it. Where would all of the FastCGI parameters go, such as # of children, timeout values, etc. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Nginx-%2B-FastCGI-%2B-PHP5-on-FreeBSD-6.2-tf4389129.html#a12533660 Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 7 00:00:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7F516A418 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oregnier@oregnier.net) Received: from 30.mail-out.ovh.net (30.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.62.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C4A713C4A6 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:00:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oregnier@oregnier.net) Received: (qmail 27928 invoked by uid 503); 6 Sep 2007 23:33:45 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 06 Sep 2007 23:33:45 -0000 Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail93.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 30.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 6 Sep 2007 23:33:45 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 6 Sep 2007 23:33:20 -0000 Received: from mac76-2-82-241-6-173.fbx.proxad.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (postmaster@oregnier.net@82.241.6.173) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 6 Sep 2007 23:33:18 -0000 Message-ID: <46E08E3B.7050407@oregnier.net> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:33:15 +0200 From: Olivier Regnier User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Ovh-Remote: 82.241.6.173 (mac76-2-82-241-6-173.fbx.proxad.net) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/N Subject: CGI with html X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:00:03 -0000 Hi everyone, I try to write CGI scripts but i have a problem on my screen. Here is my CGI code # ------------------------------------ #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; # MODULES use CGI qw(:standard); # VARIABLES my $style = get_style(); # HTML PAGE print header, start_html ( -title => '403, Interdit', -style => {-code => $style }, ), end_html; # CSS style sub get_style { my $content = "body {\n" . "margin:150px;\n" . "padding:0px;\n" . "padding:0px;\n" . 'font-family: "tahoma", "verdana", "arial", "helvetica";'. "\n" . "font-size:80%;\n" . "color:#666666;\n" . "}\n" . "#error {\n" . "margin:0 auto 0 auto;\n" . "padding:10px;\n" . "width:370px;\n" . "text-align:left;\n" . "font-size:8pt;\n" . "background-color:#EEEEEE;\n" . "}\n" . "#error h1 {\n" . "margin-top:5px;\n" . "margin-bottom:10px;\n" . "font-size:10pt;\n" . "color:#333333;\n" . "}\n" . "#error a {\n" . "color:#DC298D;\n" . "}\n" . "#error a:hover {\n" . "color:#FFFFFF;\n" . "background-color:#DC298D;\n" . "text-decoration:none;\n" . "}\n"; return $content; } # ------------------------------------ and here is the result in html: # ------------------------------------ 403, Interdit # ------------------------------------ I would like to have this dtd: and this meta code, is not at the good place. Logically he is before CSS style. Can you help me please ? Sorry for my english. Thank you in advance. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 7 00:25:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995BD16A419 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DCE13C428 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITRey-0007nA-8R for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:25:33 -0700 Received: from mtl121c.math.arizona.edu ([128.196.225.166]) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1ITReu-0007me-7w; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:25:16 -0700 Message-ID: <46E09A43.5040302@math.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:24:35 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Damon Blom , questions@freebsd.org References: <46E093FF.7020607@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <46E093FF.7020607@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: astronomy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:25:06 -0000 I am a "former astronomer" turn hardcore mathematician but just by looking at the graphs it seems to me that you are trying to port something for which you could use existing software. Even generic programs like SciLab of FreeMat can do it let alone graphics software. My guess is that you would have to do the port by yourself. I am not saying I would not like to be in the ports, all I am saying is that if I do port my first priority would be powerdot class (replacing obsolete class prosper and far superior to bemmer in performance and in particularly in simplicity of use) of presentations for Latex which is unfortunately not in the port tree. Sincerely, Predrag Punoseavac Damon Blom wrote: > Hi > s2plot from astronomy.swin.edu.au/s2plot seems like quite an > interesting program and has > linux, darwin and cygwin downloads. Would anyone from freebsd be > interested in adding it to > ports? > Thank's > Damon > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 7 00:28:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954C516A420 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:28:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phatbuckett@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7A913C45E for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 00:28:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phatbuckett@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so281160rvb for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:28:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+ij+tS4cKBw6VHPuQPtnEci2zlZ+Ps1B4hTp2oIVeM8=; b=dhbt2LmnbDd/FqlYqKaSvzDQ00NEYU722kAe5FKAHdbMOUPinuw1IKNjwlGtigd+6xsnQrr17pWANgI5F306lokIeGcvM6DSfsSX4qU/fgLhbjFqTDox10HzUHy/DuXFMRCp2FRhV6aKfTXZ8zVnSL5ihi2b0otdBTigEnXR4bw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cdsxNjpPh3BfpUueaTyQKxX9OYV/kQwpZlHZHJ4UsVXPF73FH/BtKYB5lnt5+QSXmkglbI+4HNkFGjwcbr7oEYYHY+Qe6fhAFqmqr076hIN5/BgLtZYq+puF4LJn78IkjxwGlgm0BqhcI5elLzpgW+kkPO4l+OxEDVA/0ltgUcI= Received: by 10.115.22.1 with SMTP id z1mr206536wai.1189124882043; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.178.17 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <839aec700709061728x77f91fe6td50fa88fa8b6caf4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:28:02 -0700 From: "Darren Spruell" To: "Jona Joachim" In-Reply-To: <20070907012958.70a96fe4@spaceman.my.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <839aec700709061310m44a1f0f8p55fd7706ed3c02af@mail.gmail.com> <20070907012958.70a96fe4@spaceman.my.domain> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nvidia-driver rebooting machine on X startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:28:02 -0000 On 9/6/07, Jona Joachim wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 13:10:42 -0700 > "Darren Spruell" wrote: > > > Wondering if this is a known issue, or if anyone has suggestions to > > get it working...? > > > > Running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p4 SMP i386. > > > > I installed nvidia-driver-100.14.11 from ports (Sep. 5 snapshot), > > Linux compatibility enabled. After loading modules 'linux' and > > 'nvidia', I do: > > > > # X -configure > > # X -config /root/xorg.conf.new > > > > At this point the system spontaneously reboots. 'X -configure' runs > > fine and produces a configuration without issue, but the reboot > > occcurs when launching X. Nothing is output to screen (it flickers as > > if starting X), and nothing is written to /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I do > > get the same behavior if running 'xorgcfg'. > > Did you reinstall/upgrade X after having installed nvidia-driver? > X actually overwrites libraries that nvidia-driver installs so you have > to reinstall nvidia-driver every time you upgrade X. > I remember having had some bad crashes some time ago because X overwrote > nvidia GLX libraries. > > Best regards, > Jona > Nope - driver was the most recent thing installed. I'm looking into AGP options as suggested earlier... didn't realize that this _needed_ AGP support to function. -- Darren Spruell phatbuckett@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 7 01:55:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB0716A420 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 01:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: from coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036C413C47E for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 01:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by coe.ufrj.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420E5125409 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:28:57 -0300 (BRT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at coe.ufrj.br Received: from coe.ufrj.br ([146.164.53.65]) by localhost (roma.coe.ufrj.br [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mYeU7P18-dZc for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:28:48 -0300 (BRT) Received: from [201.19.139.122] (unknown [201.19.139.122]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by coe.ufrj.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7050312540A for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:28:48 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <46E0A950.8010502@jonny.eng.br> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:28:48 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Carlos_Mendes_Lu=EDs?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Dumb question about DES/MD5 in /etc/master.passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:55:57 -0000 This question must be really dumb, but I cannot find its answer. In a somewhat recently updated RELENG_6 FreeBSD, whenever I run the program /usr/bin/passwd to change an users password, it encrypts the password using DES. I have already configured /etc/login.conf for MD5, but it still goes with DES: *$ grep passwd /etc/login.conf :passwd_format=md5:\ # :passwd_format=des:\ $* What could I be doing wrong? If that matters, this system has been receiving system and /etc upgrades since Sep/2003. Maybe some old configuration has been left around... Thanks in advance, Jonny -- João Carlos Mendes Luís - Networking Engineer - jonny@jonny.eng.br From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 7 02:22:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DFA16A418 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 02:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2067513C428 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 02:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900A8DA85A; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 04:24:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 04:25:41 +0200 From: cpghost To: Olivier Regnier Message-ID: <20070907042541.354817af@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <46E08E3B.7050407@oregnier.net> References: <46E08E3B.7050407@oregnier.net> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CGI with html X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:22:22 -0000 On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:33:15 +0200 Olivier Regnier wrote: > # MODULES > use CGI qw(:standard); >=20 > # HTML PAGE > print header, > start_html ( > -title =3D> '403, Interdit', > -style =3D> {-code =3D> $style }, > ), > end_html; [snip] > # ------------------------------------ > and here is the result in html: > # ------------------------------------ >=20 > PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" > "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > xml:lang=3D"en-US"> [snip] > I would like to have this dtd: > "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> > and this meta code, content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" /> is not at the good place. > Logically he is before CSS style. >=20 > Can you help me please ? Sorry for my english. Uhhh... it's a long time since I've used CGI.pm. But if I remember correctly, the DTD was hard-coded in CGI.pm itself, and output by start_html(); but you could override it with a value of your own. =46rom /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/CGI.pm: --------------------------------------- use constant XHTML_DTD =3D> ['-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN', 'http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd']; ... (And further down) ... # >>>>> Here are some globals that you might want to adjust <<<<<< sub initialize_globals { # Set this to 1 to enable copious autoloader debugging messages $AUTOLOAD_DEBUG =3D 0; # Set this to 1 to generate XTML-compatible output $XHTML =3D 1; # Change this to the preferred DTD to print in start_html() # or use default_dtd('text of DTD to use'); $DEFAULT_DTD =3D [ '-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN', 'http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd' ] ; ... (scroll down again) ... #### Method: start_html # Canned HTML header # # Parameters: # $title -> (optional) The title for this HTML document (-title) # $author -> (optional) e-mail address of the author (-author) # $base -> (optional) if set to true, will enter the BASE address of this document # for resolving relative references (-base)=20 # $xbase -> (optional) alternative base at some remote location (-xbase) # $target -> (optional) target window to load all links into (-target) # $script -> (option) Javascript code (-script) # $no_script -> (option) Javascript