Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:34:08 -0500 From: "graphics" <lart@mfn.org> To: "Greg Lehey" <grog@lemis.com> Cc: <FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: ATA66 troubles under 4.0R vs 3.4 Message-ID: <0b2a01c01884$e00be700$c991f280@mfn.org> References: <0ad401c0186b$ddaddc20$c991f280@mfn.org> <20000907112141.H7718@wantadilla.lemis.com>
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Greg Lehey says... > On Wednesday, 6 September 2000 at 20:35:08 -0500, graphics wrote: > > After seeing uncountable sudden "drive deaths" on *brand new* > > drives, we did a little digging (thank god for the archives!) and > > have noted the many similar tales of woe... > > "similar" doesn't mean "the same". What do you mean by "drive > deaths"? Hard read errors. Hard write errors. PIO fallbacks. These are things you would normally expect only from a very-soon-to-be dead IDE drive - except all of these drives are brand spanking new, and seem to operate flawlessly when taken off of FBSD4.0 (they work on 3.1, 2.2.6, Mickey$loth, etc...). If the drive has really failed, it's very unlikely to be > connected to FreeBSD. Both disingenuous and unnecessary sarcasm Greg. > > > Now, since 3.4 reportedly does not suffer from these troubles, we > > are going to go back down to 3.4, however, we would like the > > transition to be as painless as humanly possible, so: Can we simply > > do an overlay of 3.4 onto a 4.0 system? > > No. Oh well... > > > Also, is it known whether 4.1 has fixed the 4.0 ATA66 problems? How > > about 5-stable? > > Nobody knows if you don't know. How do you expect us to know what the > problem is? Again, both disingenuous and unnecessarily sarcastic. Search the "Questions" archive for "hard error ata" and you'll get a *ton* of people describing what is obviously a pattern of problems with the 4.0 "ad" driver. There is even a statement in one reply that there is now a FAQ designed to answer some of these repetitive complains/questions. We all KNOW there is a problem with the ATA driver in 4.0 - this is not some kind of personal attack, you don't need to get all wound up here... > If you're running into a real problem with the new ata driver, No, we're running into a FAKE problem with the driver... C'mon... you can > build a kernel with the wd driver instead. That's a lot less work > than reinstalling the system. Agreed. And I'm sorry I didn't think of it before - it's an obvious next step. But I can't decide whether that's the > case until I see some evidence. From the archives, just because you have an attitude tonight, and I'm not in the mood to blow it off: Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003091531220.805-100000@usr2-ppp37.tranquility.net> Message-ID: <20000531125115.G41986@moose.bri.hp.com> Message-ID: <200005161939.MAA02841@mass.cdrom.com> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0005152320320.797-100000@drone.collective.borg-cube.com> Message-ID: <F293RQ2b2j6McHEfFJZ000045ad@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <FCEJKOGNFDIDDJEMEMMOMEGOELAA.dreamboy@aros.net> Message-ID: <F245Md5NfOIfCXBvhUc000019d5@hotmail.com> Etc... By the way, if you want something to get pissed at, try looking at the search engine returns: you'll notice that the above articles (and just about every article from last year on) returns the wrong date on the search. Your indices are screwed up... > Greg Thanks for the suggestion, in spite of the rest. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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