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Date:      Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:10:25 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Systems Administrator <geniusj@ods.org>
To:        Nick Hibma <hibma@skylink.it>
Cc:        FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve <geniusj@free-bsd.org>, Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FW: Local DoS in FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909011510150.48475-100000@ods.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909012215420.7489-100000@heidi.plazza.it>

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The average Joe doesn't run FreeBSD


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Jason DiCioccio                              | geniusj@free-bsd.org
FreeBSD - The Power to Serve                 | http://www.freebsd.org
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On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Nick Hibma wrote:

> 
> That's one of the comments Microsoft makes when a security hole is
> discovered, switch off that, increase the security level here. It always
> makes me kind of mad, because that's not what the Joe Average does or
> is considers something he should do until it's too late.
> 
> One of the features I like about Unix is for example free space
> available solely to the root user. It could be imagined that these
> things also apply to file handles, memory/swap space and other scarce
> resources.
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> > Exactly what I mean! Limit file descriptors, and it also uses a lot of CPU
> > time so you can limit that too.. It will never crash the system with the
> > proper limits set :). They can run it all they want.
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> > 
> > > At 11:49 AM 9/1/99 -0600, FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve wrote:
> > > >If you have public access users, you should have login accounting in the
> > > >first place.. and yes, it does stop it :).. I verified this on a 3.2 box
> > > >with my login accounting setup..
> > > 
> > > How does accounting stop it ?  Or do you mean it just discourages users
> > > from doing it ? How much overhead does accounting add to the system ?
> > > Also, limiting the amount of file descriptors can prevent it, as the 'bug'
> > > is essentially a resource starving issue (e.g. fork bomb)
> > > 
> > > 	---Mike
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Mike Tancsa,                          	          tel 01.519.651.3400
> > > Network Administrator,     			  mike@sentex.net
> > > Sentex Communications                 		  www.sentex.net
> > > Cambridge, Ontario Canada
> > > 
> > > 
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> 
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