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Date:      Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:11:57 -0800
From:      David Schultz <dschultz@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To:        Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Christopher Vance <vance@aurema.com>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Seat-belt for source upgrades from stable to current
Message-ID:  <20030131181157.GA15729@HAL9000.homeunix.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030131091321.GE6346@sunbay.com>
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Thus spake Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG>:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:58:15PM -0800, David Schultz wrote:
> > I don't know about Steve, but cvsup is the wrong answer for me
> > because it's a mirroring tool and not a version control tool.
> > Among the things I would like to do are:
> > 
> > 	- Update to a specific version of a specific file from the
> > 	  repository.
> > 
> > 	- Generate a diff between two revisions in the repository,
> > 	  or between a version in the repository and some local
> > 	  patches of my own.
> > 
> > 	- View logs for particular files.
> > 
> > I asked the question in hopes that there would be some neat
> > feature of cvsup that mocked up some CVS metadata for me, but
> > since nobody has mentioned any such thing, I guess I'm out of
> > luck.  Mirroring the entire repository is not an option on
> > machines with less than 6 GB of spare disk.[1]  Transferring the
> > entire source tree over the network via anoncvs is suboptimal when
> > all I really want is a few kilobytes of 'CVS' subdirectories.
> > But I guess it will have to do for now.
> > 
> > 
> > [1] When the system is an aging dual PPro or 200MHz Alpha using
> >     SCSI, buying new drives is not practical.
> > 
> Well then learn how to use anoncvs?

I use anoncvs.  My question was, given a source or ports tree
without any CVS metadata, is there a way to obtain the tiny
corresponding CVS/Entries and CVS/Repository files without
checking out an entirely new copy of the tree via a busy, often
overloaded, anoncvs server.

Keep in mind that I'm not asking a ``can it be done?'' question.
I've been doing it for years.  Rather, I'm asking, ``can it be
done more efficiently?''  So far, the best answer I've received is
``mirror the repository locally'' (thank you, David), which I
already do on one machine to maintain a local branch and will
consider doing on others.

I have also considered writing a script to parse embedded
$FreeBSD$ tags out of source files and mock up a CVS/Entries and
CVS/Repository based on that information.  Perhaps I will try that
and see if it works passably well.

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