From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 15 03:51:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58458106564A for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:51:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED558FC14 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2F3q3Eg086392; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:52:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:51:02 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20090315035101.GA28705@thought.org> References: <20090313191520.GA14233@thought.org> <20090313202226.GA47453@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090314030558.GB25027@thought.org> <20090314072602.GA75036@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090314072602.GA75036@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best archiver? (for music) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:51:11 -0000 On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 08:26:02AM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 08:05:59PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > lame -h -V 3 - nobody could tell the difference, it gives <200kbps bitrate > > > lame -h -b 192 - as above > > > lame -h -b 128 - they were able to tell difference, but not on all > > > music/songs > > > > > > lame -h -b 96 - i was able to tell the difference on every song, but it > > > wasn't really huge deal. > > > my hearing is exceptionally good and while call myself an > > audiophile, having all my tunes right here at fingertips is > > a major win. having said that, can you point me to a basic > > tutorial on lame? > > man lame GADGOOKS! that's no tutorial, that's *torture*. After i finally got caught up on miised sleep, a few hours ago I read-thru and listened-to (kttsd) the man lame. Then surfed around; then came back to the man page and read the several examples. So: the idea is that lame ["just"] converts WAV files to mp3. There is a gnome utility, sound-juicer than turns my CD's from wave to ogg-vorbis. I'm happy with ogg but would prefer flac ... but ogg is fine. mp4 is a dontknow. What I've got is good enough for now. > > > i've got 1581620 blocks of mp3 @ 128kbit. > > lectures. when i tried to cut the quality even by a bit it was > > evident immediately. rar compresses these file to > > 1482404 blocks very very slowly. it probably makes sense to just > > burn the mp3 files to a dvd and be safe. > > There is a special codec for speech. You'll find it the > audio/speex port. From the pkg-descr: > > The Speex is a patent-free, Open Source/Free Software voice codec. > Unlike other codecs like MP3 and Ogg Vorbis, Speex is designed to > compress voice at bitrates in the 2-45 kbps range. Possible > applications include VoIP, Internet audio streaming, archiving of > speech data (e.g. voice mail), and audio books. In some sense, it is > meant to be complementary to the Ogg Vorbis codec. > > This might perform better at compressing lectures. Sounds v promising, thanks. Given the availability of compression these days, it makes me wonder why telephone conversations still sound so 'tinny'. But then, that's another matter. gary > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php