From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 13 13:06:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4A2106566C for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marshc187@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864188FC08 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marshc187@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1616854rvf.43 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:06:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=gmujlCmTOzI++sgcJZrLU43Apjy9de/ZyGeJ2zrH8mM=; b=A9YjI1GDwDlCEs6qOeuOetFCW7BricQRKi1AhUY01WIUbX4i66lim5FilWs6wQnclg g3bdYCg0kFi28Fy2ChQ86jH46QEC6fNxMXzEjYeygrq8l3hlTx4IFByVpNVnH/Hqlzfa 8A890CtKuhuTtu/uUasPCGGojpPo3iNfcZImQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=eX8y/gcdp+WWHRvvnKN0uZWF4YdsIlGDYpdh4ozmtzDBqWlEJ7UIlhvWuwIbchBPPn 4ttz3WnmPIXJk4ja/hw+MYXW2NGIdSbHwc+REYsUD5kLqV2WV7OwZbnoHTm1bBIwOONr gRd7jZqPHJNskOemUkPOqhcskvWmgQKJMpMvM= Received: by 10.141.1.2 with SMTP id d2mr3357496rvi.42.1221311165210; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.158.21 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <332f78510809130606w2a1a1644j7435bf3413bac323@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:06:05 +0200 From: "m cassar" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080913101537.GA29751@nemesis.frida.mouhaha.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <332f78510809121123w36052fb8h3443fb6dd98c8b64@mail.gmail.com> <20080913101537.GA29751@nemesis.frida.mouhaha.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Audio Production X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:06:05 -0000 On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Oliver Peter wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 08:23:16PM +0200, m cassar wrote: > > Does anyone here use freebsd for serious audio/video production work? or > > know if there is some kind of community? > > > > i have seen ubuntu studio for a general idea outside windows/osx, but > prefer > > fbsd over linux. and found most programs in ports, but i would like to > find > > out more about kernel optimization in that respect and what goes into > that > > type of dedicated setup. > > > > i am running 7-stable with a custom kernel, where i only added vesa, and > > removed some scsi and network drivers i don't have from the generic > kernel, > > but i figure there must be more settings to tweak than what i saw there > in > > the generic file. would there be more settings somewhere else or would > you > > add them to the kernconf file? > > I think it does not depend on your kernel configuration - checkout the > portstree for the software you need: > > % cd /usr/ports > % make search key="$MY_MULTIMEDIA_SOFTWARE" > > Furthermore you should checkout the hardware/release notes for > 7.0 and/or 7.1: > > http://www.freebsd.org/where.html > > > my setup works fairly decent for desktop use, but seems kinda sluggish > with > > even basic multimedia. > > IMO FreeBSD is not made for that kind of multimedia machine - > it's not about the software, it's more about the drivers. > FreeBSD has a focus on network and stability, not to support your brandnew > 7:1 soundhardware or the latest ATI SLI graphics card for $500... > > I prefer FreeBSD over Linux as well, but I think you should go for a > dual-boot installation. :) > I've heard very good things about Ubuntu Studio and believe that > the hardware support for your needs is better. > ok, I see what you mean with freebsd's main focus (stability,etc), i just thought it was just 'younger' than linux(es) for desktop and that type of use, but had the potential and would get there eventually; also considering that the user community could gradually grow from here, meaning more feature demands for end users and also more potential developers, i.e. new users with the expertise. And from my end, since i don't have a crucial need for a production system at the moment, and just a hobby, i could stick to it instead of linux and see it deveope in that way, and learn more about what goes under the hood. I got this impression since i had a pcbsd install on another disk and it had slightly better performance than my fbsd 7, which i only wanted to get up and running asap and kinda sloppy. (pcbsd 1.5.1, with base 6.3, which i think doesn't fully support dual cores). coincidently, i installed ubuntu studio this morning, but i still feel 15mins there is 15mins away from fbsd, especially if it is a matter of tweaking and such. BTW, and related to fbsd kind of being younger than linux, i had an amd64 version at some point, of freebsd, and couldn't install wine because it is based on 32bit windows or what have you. it works on ubuntu studio (64) fine and i am also under the impression that anything linux can do, freebsd can do; and it's just a matter of time. I'm just glad i didn't have to wipe fbsd to install ubuntu. anyhoo, thanks for your info, and i take it there is no known projects at the moment similar to ubuntu studio, suse/jad, fedora/planet ccrma, etc. I am not sure if you mean there is surely no hope or whether it is just early, assuming that it would basically need a real-time or low-latency kernel bidonkey donk modifications. > > > p.s. on a different note while i'm here, how do you go from 7.1 > prerelease > > to 7.1 release when it is out? when/how do you tell when you stop using > > stable-supfile and start using standard-supfile? > > Your're following -STABLE, aka RELENG_7. > After 7.1-RELEASE is out you will have to follow RELENG_7_1 is what > you want (if you don't want to follow -STABLE anymore). > > ok, so when 7.1 is released, there will still be a relative stable branch, right? i think i will sit on 7,1, release for a while when out. thank you > -- > Oliver PETER, email: oliver@peter.de.com, ICQ# 113969174 > "If it feels good, you're doing something wrong." > -- Coach McTavish >