From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 3 23:14:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (unknown [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E59D37B4CF for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 23:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA47EDn49249; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:14:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA31109; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 00:14:12 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011040714.AAA31109@harmony.village.org> To: kstewart@urx.com Subject: Re: Re-Booting new -STABLE Kernel: Failure To Mount Root .. even GENERIC Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Nov 2000 21:43:37 PST." <3A03A209.42953174@urx.com> References: <3A03A209.42953174@urx.com> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 00:14:12 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3A03A209.42953174@urx.com> Kent Stewart writes: : doing all of this from an xterm on the computer being upgraded. KDE : will sometimes cause hang in perhaps 1 out of 6 or 7 tries. The : frequency could be less often than that. Hmmm, I've never had a problem doing a buildworld in one Xterm while doing other things in another. On really bad days, I've had problems with make installworld, but that usually involves running me out of disk rather than anything too hairy (except for the one kernel flagday with signals that torpedoed me, but even that's been mostly or totally fixed). Usually I do silly things like buildworld/installworld and then I build the kernel the traditional way, only cursing if it fails. My kernel/userland updates are massively decoupled, but I'm supposed to know what I'm doing. Usually I get away with a lot, but sometimes that burns me (like not running mergemaster and wondering why ldconfig would hang the boot process a while ago :-). Other machines I'm fairly religous about doing things right so that UPDATING isn't too far out of whack and I know how to field some of the odd build problems that come in. These are generally my production machines, so they get a little extra TLC (I don't have their covers off as often swapping hardware :-). Also, I tend to be conservative about what I recommend as the blessed way. The conservative way will always work, although there are often short cuts that will usually work most of the time, if the wrong dependencies don't change on you. If the conservative way ever breaks, it is usually fixed quickly :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message