Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:19:31 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org> To: Kirill Ponomarew <krion@voodoo.bawue.com> Cc: cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Andrew Pantyukhin <infofarmer@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/games/ppracer Makefile pkg-descr Message-ID: <20070615161931.GB79551@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20070615154408.GH19707@voodoo.bawue.com> References: <200706151319.l5FDJ3ZT002340@repoman.freebsd.org> <cb5206420706150625h1554d0blabda24b04f50a626@mail.gmail.com> <20070615135952.GE19707@voodoo.bawue.com> <cb5206420706150755w561da70ei8ae7dc21809cdc37@mail.gmail.com> <20070615154408.GH19707@voodoo.bawue.com>
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On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 05:44:08PM +0200, Kirill Ponomarew wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 06:55:20PM +0400, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > On 6/15/07, Kirill Ponomarew <krion@voodoo.bawue.com> wrote: > > > Andrew, please stop sending such kind of comments to > > > ports-committers@ alias, in this case it really should be sent > > > privately. But, frankly speaking, even if I get it privately, I'd > > > smile. You should really *think* before you mail your comments to > > > ports-committers list, these above comments are inappropriate here. > > > > > > Please move all you technical items for commits whether to ports@ > > > and discuss it there, or privately, depending how *important* is > > > your comment. Inserting the coins for every commit and do it in > > > ports-committers@ is not what I expected while discussing technical > > > review explanations. > > > > I'm the one who sends most messages, but this is not > > a one-man effort. Many people read them, some comment > > on them - and we all learn. And this is the point: > > making committers aware of the amount of problems in > > our commits, discussing them together. I'm not an > > automated process, we must all learn from each other's > > mistakes, broadcasted to a list, because we just don't > > have enough human resources for private lessons. > > Sorry, but it's high level crap to discuss here stuff like Approved > by: "pointyhat via kris", "pointyhat", "portsmon via linimon" or > just "portsmon". I don't want to see here the "yet another policy > and discussion how to write Approved by: line", should I write pav@ > or just pav, "via" kris or just kris. Andrew, I'm just repeating, > these are crap comments and they shouldn't belong to > ports-committers list. Andrew is being perhaps overly pedantic here, but he's right in principal. Consistency and standard conformance even in format of "Foobared by:" entries doesn't lower quality of our ports, does it? > > > As for the mailing-list, I think ports-committers is > > the most appropriate one because this is primarily an > > inter-committer process. > > You can't even really imagine how many users read ports-committers > list just to know the changes in the ports tree. They're not > interested in the above notes. So, please respect our users as well > and don't think only about committers guys. Kirill, those non-committers who read ports-committers@ are very likely to consider being a submitter (or even committer!) in the future. In this case I find it useful if they learn most common mistakes *before* they start making them themselves. This is one of rare cases when one can learn on others' mistakes as well (i.e., good) as on their own. ./danfe
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