From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 00:13:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F1F106566C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B76B8FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p330DwNe059041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:13:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p330DwIP059040; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA17466; Sat, 2 Apr 11 16:08:16 PST Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:07:54 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: christopher-ml@telting.org, utisoft@gmail.com Message-Id: <4d97ba5a.199K2FcyLXA6+b5f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4D96668C.3090406@telting.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 00:13:59 -0000 Chris Rees wrote: > On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting wrote: > > One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell. > > I think you've misunderstood the term dependency hell [1]. Anyone > who has spent hours struggling with rpm ... would never dare to > even think of such terms when using the Ports Collection. Dependency purgatory? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 00:21:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783EF1065670 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:21:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5053C8FC1B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p330DwGl059046 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:13:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p330DwqW059045; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA17480; Sat, 2 Apr 11 16:09:48 PST Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:09:27 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: utisoft@gmail.com Message-Id: <4d97bab7.N8223KbCB0UUZFmK%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <0DD2BF5C-7387-4AFA-BF43-B1683F3773E8@d3photography.com> <20110402130739.4253ea30@napoleon> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mike.jeays@rogers.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: graphical representation of `du` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 00:21:28 -0000 Chris Rees wrote: > Maybe I should port it... +1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 00:30:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A42106566C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:30:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDD08FC13 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9680264BF13; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 19:31:12 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2jcyiMVSWib7; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 19:30:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.0.1.198] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 52F81264BF12; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 19:30:22 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 19:29:23 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: David Chanters , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 00:30:15 -0000 Get a Gmail account. On Apr 2, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:54:52PM +0100, David Chanters wrote: >> On 2 April 2011 21:14, Gary Kline wrote: >>>=20 >>> my telco modem [[was BRAND NEW in feb]] failed last tuesday. = letsee if this >>> gets out >>=20 >> You could have just sent yourself an email. But yes, here you are. >>=20 >> David >>=20 >=20 > well, mail to kline would get back.... i wasn't sure about mail = to > kline at thought.org, but i suppose that does go over the wire = and > back. tx. =20 >=20 > g >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service = Unix > The 7.98a release of Jottings: = http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > http://journey.thought.org > ethic=20 > Coming soon to http://transfinite.thought.org: On_Suicide >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 00:30:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B05106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8928FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A291264BF13; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 19:31:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n7eFoS4+KZNZ; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 19:31:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.0.1.198] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D8B0264BF12; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 19:31:14 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 19:30:16 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0DD2BF5C-7387-4AFA-BF43-B1683F3773E8@d3photography.com> To: David Chanters X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: graphical representation of `du` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 00:30:30 -0000 Well, it looks like it's written for X, which I don't run on any of my = servers. Thanks, though. On Apr 2, 2011, at 6:50 PM, David Chanters wrote: > Hi >=20 > On 2 April 2011 15:20, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> I found this command: >> ls -R | grep ":$" | sed -e 's/:$//' -e 's/[^-][^\/]*\//--/g' -e 's/^/ = /' -e 's/-/|/' >=20 > What about xdu? >=20 > http://sd.wareonearth.com/~phil/xdu/ >=20 > David > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 00:45:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713CF106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BA28FC12 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA05D264BF13; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 19:46:17 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ScIuCi2TlKVd; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 19:46:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.0.1.198] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E4F31264BF12; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 19:46:04 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <4d97ba5a.199K2FcyLXA6+b5f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 19:45:06 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9BFF22F1-7559-4107-B149-94A79CA3ADB7@d3photography.com> References: <4D96668C.3090406@telting.org> <4d97ba5a.199K2FcyLXA6+b5f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> To: perryh@pluto.rain.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: christopher-ml@telting.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, utisoft@gmail.com Subject: Re: Port dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 00:45:20 -0000 On Apr 2, 2011, at 7:07 PM, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Chris Rees wrote: >> On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting wrote: >>> One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell. >> >> I think you've misunderstood the term dependency hell [1]. Anyone >> who has spent hours struggling with rpm ... would never dare to >> even think of such terms when using the Ports Collection. > > Dependency purgatory? Dantency Inferno. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 01:05:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE90106566C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.chanters@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745498FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:05:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so6082314iyj.13 for ; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:05:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=IrSHS13xPInUB3Ymf6nTaK8MjnkSNYirpd/RPyTFtYg=; b=kf7ytkFaGXxApZmKyEct3PxVDrFnOF6dfTHQgcrV44qzvtSVbg/pOaF1RniP1tUvRO LKi4rhOVbKEMar8+dmYmxPGWfcwBpS8Rj+1fQzm2VVE23iVP0nDljw+fJ6Equl8a2PI5 A8lEw4qn7KtxSD0gK/nFRb5Rr5OZe2wUcDl/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vsOmWX3umsXkfXlbPc/3a1YwQwWrZFfwzMm2eENHb/ikXzUYZIUjj980R16JEunl0X xG7YmAO2GytIzqKWd3OT1Z6JHJ5ePbsW28gS5uSEc1BTyh7mDrjGMvVnO1UQeqs/icGJ ZvaqvPfPrRpPgzORTbhW6D0zAPqeYDDFRqxVg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.246.131 with SMTP id ly3mr7919988icb.418.1301792749634; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.59.202 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:05:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0DD2BF5C-7387-4AFA-BF43-B1683F3773E8@d3photography.com> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 02:05:49 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Chanters To: Ryan Coleman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: graphical representation of `du` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:05:50 -0000 On 3 April 2011 01:30, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Well, it looks like it's written for X, which I don't run on any of my servers. Moan, moan, moan. It solves your problem though. David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 01:07:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E357A106566C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.chanters@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7D88FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so6083197iyj.13 for ; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:07:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YuhXGAmT0oLi04qFO67NEY1SD3101KnIZC8ZmsAqRs8=; b=a2HpmChnlniwdAYRYjGkyEF4v1RIDfAT1BGxk7O6M7UjjVJZ9nRFhKHvRtgQH0DGZT SdoeIlYIkbe/vCdl3+u0huo7S5W1kqQ642vwMbkRwmeCLAUCCi9SjO9r+tUq62eeiV08 8tgpAR5eiJXWdZz9ltkbA/KDWb3tUcFs+PtpY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VxwzLGgfWpR8Z1dRcz817lHN0FuB99TzVFcJUTXr8rJNzN/Ughc+i+W7/HRcNrN0pK eCj8Jislig8uwqHLnJe/LsxthrwcxeDLvRW5FZ/BclRoOT5xhvaI1p40QL450EbI9b6k nDfkL/ySosub1iDYm8WJc0sp3TSdJPF4MlqHc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.50.74 with SMTP id vd10mr3365953icb.16.1301792851607; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.59.202 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:07:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 02:07:31 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Chanters To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:07:33 -0000 On 3 April 2011 00:46, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:54:52PM +0100, David Chanters wrote: >> On 2 April 2011 21:14, Gary Kline wrote: >> > >> > my telco modem [[was BRAND NEW in feb]] failed last tuesday. =A0 =A0le= tsee if this >> > gets out >> >> You could have just sent yourself an email. =A0But yes, here you are. >> >> David >> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0well, mail to kline would get back.... i wasn't sure about= mail to > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0kline at thought.org, but i suppose that does go over the = wire and > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0back. tx. Yes -- welcome to the 21st century, a la gmail. David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 01:08:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D393106567C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C228FC27 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C918264BF16; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:09:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NzZhb1Cu2hWE; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:09:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.0.1.198] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81270264BF12; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:08:42 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:07:43 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <0DD2BF5C-7387-4AFA-BF43-B1683F3773E8@d3photography.com> To: David Chanters X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: graphical representation of `du` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:08:22 -0000 Yeah I don't run these computers to be desktops :) On Apr 2, 2011, at 8:05 PM, David Chanters wrote: > On 3 April 2011 01:30, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> Well, it looks like it's written for X, which I don't run on any of = my servers. >=20 > Moan, moan, moan. It solves your problem though. >=20 > David > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 2 23:22:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F5A106566C for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abletony84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D3B8FC0A for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so2139805gwb.13 for ; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 16:22:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oqJnW4OggZN3eVKJ2xXHpG+gL0qVgSNqG8A075xxfQs=; b=q9SBJ2NHGhlKdFhPQQBAMQvNpxl2Zq3czcIh34RE+TfMatxFLgXLsopF7jTExwite1 4waRDZ5Irlh0y1YCcutqTkoSCCIX5oBW3DF90EX/tKf9uecPlWQgmjX6QYEYUqIPDZZX x7tSJsFFddJjeXSDtykadN1vLyPeIqJJqRDu8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fkQ1F99zQkYqMzJ+MMAoPS7nj1YO/mrnd1Roi6MxT6mLXmD7MkY0reP6hMX1M4kse+ ITvUtHBSTNbLGAnC9ASuMv7ZbgYQOvjFsGob/TWoQnAxtrH60LH2m44e9kLtFDPxOP7v buOCChdP9ANqdgGhqZ//qNais16BtVJIf0SeE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.162.2 with SMTP id k2mr2465667ybe.10.1301784811426; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 15:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.158.20 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 15:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:53:31 +0200 Message-ID: From: Tony To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:14:34 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Problems with make buildkernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 23:22:37 -0000 Hello! Anybody care to have a look? http://pastie.org/1748851 Many thanks! Tony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 01:25:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEEF106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCD98FC14 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 04B00E80457; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:25:21 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20110403012521.GA18031@thought.org> References: <0DD2BF5C-7387-4AFA-BF43-B1683F3773E8@d3photography.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: David Chanters , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: graphical representation of `du` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:25:23 -0000 On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 08:07:43PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Yeah I don't run these computers to be desktops :) > exactly. i Do have x11 and ctwm just to get two xterms. but prefer the console. --besides, xdu takes too long. > On Apr 2, 2011, at 8:05 PM, David Chanters wrote: > > > On 3 April 2011 01:30, Ryan Coleman wrote: > >> Well, it looks like it's written for X, which I don't run on any of my servers. > > > > Moan, moan, moan. It solves your problem though. > > > > David > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 01:28:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1263106566C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.chanters@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BA38FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so6094188iyj.13 for ; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:28:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UX1y9fDCeawwplXypnyrtBbGvOwX+7eItH9vKwqyRk0=; b=Q7nxIWVgyyYzAzPIrU35Eu53bKCw6D73b6ABXAlp9zb8FbEag39mxUZYABv1zYTdX0 NV8Y666F68V4zGdkMklqkh4P+gfv6PJq6TAXcZjbjUSLPxQD8QN+xS+zZnAG2MeZcIzK rrwzi5ChT8KuHxuHdN9lJvTl4NqFj0znd9J+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=R0N86+0KqefmUTyYqaK9yiAY/PNUGa9CkkNN26z53BnuHe4X8bfO9/9GOFanrbQPVE djL+E3B9fsP+/vX65k8HvxzKeA83tS0El8mrLt1ccIN4128OqhS54sPgRQKWHlyQGzak h3yIdCbpPUY2s2reYfpNruOrAOmsr12GIg2nQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.246.71 with SMTP id lx7mr2698167icb.351.1301794082748; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.59.202 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:28:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110403012521.GA18031@thought.org> References: <0DD2BF5C-7387-4AFA-BF43-B1683F3773E8@d3photography.com> <20110403012521.GA18031@thought.org> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 02:28:02 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Chanters To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Ryan Coleman , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: graphical representation of `du` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:28:03 -0000 On 3 April 2011 02:25, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 08:07:43PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> Yeah I don't run these computers to be desktops :) >> > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0exactly. =A0i Do have x11 and ctwm just to get two xterms.= =A0but > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0prefer the console. =A0--besides, xdu takes too long. Double moan-bullshit. David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 01:31:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36619106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091E68FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 63596E80457; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:30:59 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: David Chanters , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:31:00 -0000 On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:29:23PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Get a Gmail account. i tried about a year ago: gdk98188; now i cannot get in. something is hosed ... > > On Apr 2, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:54:52PM +0100, David Chanters wrote: > >> On 2 April 2011 21:14, Gary Kline wrote: > >>> > >>> my telco modem [[was BRAND NEW in feb]] failed last tuesday. letsee if this > >>> gets out > >> > >> You could have just sent yourself an email. But yes, here you are. > >> > >> David > >> > > > > well, mail to kline would get back.... i wasn't sure about mail to > > kline at thought.org, but i suppose that does go over the wire and > > back. tx. > > > > g > > > > > > -- > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix > > The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php > > http://journey.thought.org > > ethic > > Coming soon to http://transfinite.thought.org: On_Suicide > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 01:39:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4047B106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A2C8FC15 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C89D264BF19; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:40:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kTJQkqHL2lJy; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:39:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.0.1.198] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 675B9264BF1B; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:39:58 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 20:38:59 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <71EB4EA1-6627-4182-9037-9C850699B203@d3photography.com> References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: David Chanters , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:39:14 -0000 On Apr 2, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:29:23PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: >> Get a Gmail account. > > > i tried about a year ago: gdk98188; now i cannot get in. > something is hosed ... They're free, make a new one. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 01:43:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423091065672 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D928FC12 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7D02EE80457; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:43:03 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20110403014303.GC18031@thought.org> References: <4D96668C.3090406@telting.org> <4d97ba5a.199K2FcyLXA6+b5f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <9BFF22F1-7559-4107-B149-94A79CA3ADB7@d3photography.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9BFF22F1-7559-4107-B149-94A79CA3ADB7@d3photography.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: christopher-ml@telting.org, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, utisoft@gmail.com Subject: Re: Port dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:43:04 -0000 On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:45:06PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > > > On Apr 2, 2011, at 7:07 PM, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > Chris Rees wrote: > >> On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting wrote: > >>> One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell. > >> > >> I think you've misunderstood the term dependency hell [1]. Anyone > >> who has spent hours struggling with rpm ... would never dare to > >> even think of such terms when using the Ports Collection. > > > > Dependency purgatory? > > Dantency Inferno. :) > seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was discussed recently. the kernel is ours and number one in the world. and the ports stuff is basically packages that more/less just-work. you can get the src =with= the pkg. . > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 01:44:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367BD1065670 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EBB8FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-79.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.79]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157281E273; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:44:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p331i0wB003220; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:44:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:43:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:44:03 -0000 On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:30:59 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:29:23PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > > Get a Gmail account. > > > i tried about a year ago: gdk98188; now i cannot get in. > something is hosed ... In worst case, use a "normal" mail account - either provided by your own server or by someone you trust, so google is out of scope. :-) Using POP/SMTP/IMAP always gives you the required ability to use the interface of choice, e. g. a standalone MUA that is accessible, and no requirement to do such stuff via the web, using the inconvenience and shortcomings of a web browser. I can only speak for myself regarding this suggestion, and I may also admit that I'm not fully happy with it. I would like to run my own mail server, but corrently I'm using the one for POP of the provider of my domain. I avoid SMTP as sending mail from my system (that runs a MTA) is considered NORMAL by me. Sadly, most others who suffer from spam do not think so, they reject messages coming from behind a dynamic IP, so I use my ISP's relay as smarthost for sending messages. This way, I can still use ANY mail client program I want - I get the messages using fetchmail and can then process them with any program, even "in parallel". For sending, I can even | mail -s bla bob@foo.bar from the command line. It may not be optimal for all imaginable scenarios (e. g. reading mail from a different system, sending from a different location), but as I do not require them, it's no big deal. Gary, whenever you have the chance to run you own mail system - DO IT. You have enough knowledge to keep this kind of stuff running, and it gives you more flexibility than anything else. For example, you could install an IMAP interface for mail stored on the server, so you can access it by any IMAP capable client you want, and you could even install a web mail client (e. g. roundcube) to bind to that IMAP inter- face. In my opinion, this is way better than the POP/no-SMTP thing I'm currently doing. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 03:07:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7CA106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher-ml@telting.org) Received: from mail.telting.org (mail.telting.org [204.109.56.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784748FC0C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from apollo.local (cpe-76-168-204-255.socal.res.rr.com [76.168.204.255]) by mail.telting.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34392A702; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4D97E46D.1000202@telting.org> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:07:25 -0700 From: Chris Telting User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110305 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <4D96668C.3090406@telting.org> <4d97ba5a.199K2FcyLXA6+b5f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <9BFF22F1-7559-4107-B149-94A79CA3ADB7@d3photography.com> <20110403014303.GC18031@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110403014303.GC18031@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 03:07:27 -0000 > seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was > discussed recently. the kernel is ours and number one in the > world. and the ports stuff is basically packages that more/less > just-work. you can get the src =with= the pkg. > How does debian get around all the "make config" options that we deal with? Such as does such and such package pull in samba... Or does debian just compile with every option more or less enabled? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 04:02:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6131065672 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 04:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf13.insightbb.com (mxsf13.insightbb.com [74.128.0.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD3A8FC15 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 04:02:34 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,290,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="354520356" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf13.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2011 00:02:34 -0400 X-Connecting-IP: 74.132.139.5 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah9KAJfwl01KhIsFO2dsb2JhbACYZIx9CwEBAQE3MsE8hWsElDA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,290,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="216982441" Received: from 74-132-139-5.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO doris.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.132.139.5]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2011 00:02:34 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:02:23 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE; KDE/4.6.1; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201104030002.24491.freebsd@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: Problems with make buildkernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 04:02:35 -0000 On Saturday April 2 2011 6:53:31 PM Tony wrote: > Anybody care to have a look? http://pastie.org/1748851 I hate to ask, but before you started your buildworld, did you make clean? Also, in case you did, another thing you might try is to add COMPAT_7. You already have back to 4. -- StevieRay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 04:35:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43987106566C; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 04:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125D18FC08; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 04:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-3.hub.org [200.46.204.243]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32923250A8D; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:35:19 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.243]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 47881-04; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 04:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id F37713250A8B; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:35:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91003250A7E; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:35:11 -0300 (ADT) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:35:11 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: scrappy@hub.org To: Rick Macklem In-Reply-To: <326244177.2606708.1301701360593.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> Message-ID: References: <326244177.2606708.1301701360593.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Marc G. Fournier" Subject: Re: nfs error: No route to host when starting apache ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 04:35:22 -0000 On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Rick Macklem wrote: >> Since rpc.lockd and rpc.statd expect to be able to do IP broadcast >> (same goes for rpcbind), I suspect that might be a problem w.r.t. >> jails, although I know nothing about how jails work? >> > Oh, and you can use the "nolock" mount option to avoid use of > rpc.lockd and rpc.statd. based on the mount_nfs man page, as well as trying it just in case, this option no longer appears to be availalble in the 7.x nfs code ... :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 06:04:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649731065672 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 06:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B9E8FC0C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 06:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B2C66E80457; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:04:30 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20110403060430.GA20405@thought.org> References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> <71EB4EA1-6627-4182-9037-9C850699B203@d3photography.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <71EB4EA1-6627-4182-9037-9C850699B203@d3photography.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: David Chanters , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 06:04:32 -0000 On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 08:38:59PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > > > On Apr 2, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:29:23PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > >> Get a Gmail account. > > > > > > i tried about a year ago: gdk98188; now i cannot get in. > > something is hosed ... > > > They're free, make a new one. pretty sure i tried but there was a yelp about my kline@thought.org address. i'lll try again. IIRC, after messing around for 20 minutes i just quit. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 06:37:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE21E106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 06:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27018FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 06:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 07D50E80457; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:37:21 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Chris Telting Message-ID: <20110403063721.GB20405@thought.org> References: <4D96668C.3090406@telting.org> <4d97ba5a.199K2FcyLXA6+b5f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <9BFF22F1-7559-4107-B149-94A79CA3ADB7@d3photography.com> <20110403014303.GC18031@thought.org> <4D97E46D.1000202@telting.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D97E46D.1000202@telting.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 06:37:22 -0000 On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 08:07:25PM -0700, Chris Telting wrote: > > > seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was > > discussed recently. the kernel is ours and number one in the > > world. and the ports stuff is basically packages that more/less > > just-work. you can get the src =with= the pkg. > > > > How does debian get around all the "make config" options that we > deal with? Such as does such and such package pull in samba... Or > does debian just compile with every option more or less enabled? > > Chris > not sure about setting the options for a particular port, but i think you can build it with various flags set when you pull down the src. at any rate, since most drives are HUGE these days, enabling all/most options doesn't eat up that great a percent of the disk. and yeah, that's just my guess. note that i've been using freebsd since '95 and linux since '05. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 06:53:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CD6106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 06:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrm@mingrone.org) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6D38FC14 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 06:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so5233660wwc.31 for ; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 23:53:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mingrone.org; s=google; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=RzskXNA0jXGgG2E14vboCPxq2fcIo1IA4XPWg0ExgCc=; b=CUtKlBVQNyT2g4QTjtC2nndaUCrneqR14eZ10bPlWOGpBV9OPwzLxHld4YJ/GC6jUT fVVRATqay/UODpJO3OMFMl5/oF1xuxIWl2vVY0rBWXCkzoKJB49s0VA54sW3LAEwYICG OoJMuMUiNx+ySFWxD4lI82LOMVMji+xo7ixIE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=mingrone.org; s=google; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=SodE9P3+y2zDRsSdMrCwwFL+ORul7+5JYTv9/45oD+9c58kvugrmpQSX+Uv0/79p5F 4e2vrH+uyXcbnoWuru6T/yGAKxNTJqFSjJ54W0B9EMDGzX89qZS8Z+xvmWZLCCsVSN3I NeCwr/nsss7W05n2ExvtO1xdGqv5m0AjxGqxY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.24.92 with SMTP id w70mr2566207wew.43.1301811863570; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 23:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.6.135 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:24:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [24.137.75.251] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:24:23 -0300 Message-ID: From: Joseph Mingrone To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Jens Jahnke , Jerry Subject: Re: Unable to update "dirmngr" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 06:53:17 -0000 On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 15:41, Jerry wrote: > FreeBSD-8.2 > > Several attempts to update the "dirmngr" port have failed. > Did you see the 20110328 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING for net/openldap24-client? Try reconfiguring net/openldap24-client without the fetch option selected, then reinstall the port Next, uninstall then install dirmngr dirmngr. This worked for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 08:59:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1915D106566C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 08:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7A58FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 08:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p338xTLU007810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:59:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p338xTLU007810 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1301821175; bh=of8WBVsglbzfamPZOmMZMTTKkJZM7TMA2TjTXkTpMws=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D9836E9.3020004@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2003=20Apr=202011=2009:59:21=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.15)=20Gecko/20110303=20Thunderbird/3.1.9|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20am=20i=20b ack=20up....???|References:=20<20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org>= 09=0 9<20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org>=09<7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9B BC581CCBD0@d3photography.com>=09<20110403013059.GB18031@thought.or g>=20<20110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de>|In-Reply-To:=20<20 110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1. 1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20m icalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature" =3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig22976CD2C4E8D92D51F01330"; b=K9vPys4Y/Fm80H5yXUQsDTjQsXc5njv06Tfu1LfVa3OCsflchtIgL3ET0I3EdsPtD MD18l6k5zxFF9gB1YQgbj4WV2/W4j++ZFgQMVav85dJQtVUIm10uIfUHYHW3kxpIZg Kki8yoSUC44JrEkQHb91/WjBaWwBqa/CVtNjQC7s= Message-ID: <4D9836E9.3020004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 09:59:21 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> <20110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig22976CD2C4E8D92D51F01330" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 08:59:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig22976CD2C4E8D92D51F01330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/04/2011 02:43, Polytropon wrote: > I can only speak for myself regarding this suggestion, and > I may also admit that I'm not fully happy with it. I would > like to run my own mail server, but corrently I'm using > the one for POP of the provider of my domain. I avoid > SMTP as sending mail from my system (that runs a MTA) > is considered NORMAL by me. Sadly, most others who suffer > from spam do not think so, they reject messages coming from > behind a dynamic IP, so I use my ISP's relay as smarthost > for sending messages. This way, I can still use ANY mail > client program I want - I get the messages using fetchmail > and can then process them with any program, even "in > parallel". For sending, I can even | mail -s bla bob@foo.bar > from the command line. It may not be optimal for all > imaginable scenarios (e. g. reading mail from a different > system, sending from a different location), but as I do > not require them, it's no big deal. Personally, I agree entirely with the idea of running your own mail server -- so long as you have a sufficient level of competence, and I think most of the people in this thread would be entirely capable. Unfortunately that's not true of the majority of most ISP's clientele, and bitter experience has led them to clamp down on SMTP-from-home in various ways. Some ISPs are friendly to more technically adept users -- mine is a case in point -- but these are few and far between. Even so, you can still run your own servers. You can get a minimally spec'd machine (virtual or physical) at quite a reasonable price nowadays. Polytropon -- given your location, have you checked out hetzner.de? They've got some good deals, and they support using FreeBSD too. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig22976CD2C4E8D92D51F01330 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2YNvEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwtmwCcD8u0hnMtuuaq20dI7/p+BDvH qdcAn3GODxrlCCzxCgAfLfnyg4EMZhKG =ApfA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig22976CD2C4E8D92D51F01330-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 09:03:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F00B106566C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27B98FC16 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p3393OQX008290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 10:03:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p3393OQX008290 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1301821405; bh=xL+yp/U1nBSkplh2jXVRy93VChjJdOK1nZ3ieUm8PTQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D9837DC.7000101@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2003=20Apr=202011=2010:03:24=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.15)=20Gecko/20110303=20Thunderbird/3.1.9|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Unable=20t o=20update=20"dirmngr"|References:=20=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Versio n:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/sign ed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-s ignature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig46F8C6E6EC3D29A48 B0D53CB"; b=m9YEs4W1bA0M0UIH1oJCLDzR+4IPq4pjT+9w9qzJqbBxCNo+4GaZTIXvCXQHHG5i9 OX2QYv25d+whvQ6VEfXLWaZKW0Ctp2+e7AQlb7v7G6BMddsNcJ5mMgKT+pHSnoOSvZ mmWH2uBK2r5R77/z/P7ZN4pzDaJQzrMHL04xb+vk= Message-ID: <4D9837DC.7000101@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:03:24 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig46F8C6E6EC3D29A48B0D53CB" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Unable to update "dirmngr" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 09:03:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig46F8C6E6EC3D29A48B0D53CB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/04/2011 07:24, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 15:41, Jerry wrote= : >> FreeBSD-8.2 >> >> Several attempts to update the "dirmngr" port have failed. >> >=20 > Did you see the 20110328 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING for net/openldap2= 4-client? > Try reconfiguring net/openldap24-client without the fetch option > selected, then reinstall the port Next, uninstall then install > dirmngr dirmngr. This worked for me. Even better, the latest update to the openldap24-client ports means that it should all just work. Update your ports and try again. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig46F8C6E6EC3D29A48B0D53CB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2YN9wACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwQnQCgivMc9KIwU6fHz3VSCL7jZyt5 YZUAnRxSjc4MDxcAwVhA2JLE2a3rAwgZ =DYp3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig46F8C6E6EC3D29A48B0D53CB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 09:04:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00558106566C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romain.garbage@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66218FC17 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27so3587437qyk.13 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 02:04:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ExlOkTJIH7AqnLNlYcml0wRfz0CxEgQR/i54V0seVeI=; b=KI3rqabKnzwHozOIekYdkT9DQTHU/0NGEfI+sTGAIPbV9OxsdahexEPLHoTUIgsUbu 79vK4HZXIYoFmSBftwm4FvDibqU915es6v+LSY/TinehR2g7tVfyhd4GDll9cBLQGBxc y+4MiOtvTWIyoG3ovUV1O40jFsfuKQIE/zsVI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tFKlxfE8uY5evsAR23ULtohYj19NsjLtdWQ9kLDZpWUzL+JrFy7CBYr6KZ0S4+ewts ygkha9YVx5oodEc4lINbVzXuAvke+s/zbNxwxmi0xIs/hLSHQIszJlZDREcxKG14oBjw /vrd3YS3PTv+nIiUa+jpn5xvQTQv3EfQsZBno= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.49.140 with SMTP id v12mr4842359qcf.80.1301819708111; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.216.74 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:35:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D97E46D.1000202@telting.org> References: <4D96668C.3090406@telting.org> <4d97ba5a.199K2FcyLXA6+b5f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <9BFF22F1-7559-4107-B149-94A79CA3ADB7@d3photography.com> <20110403014303.GC18031@thought.org> <4D97E46D.1000202@telting.org> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 10:35:08 +0200 Message-ID: From: Romain Garbage To: Chris Telting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 09:04:37 -0000 2011/4/3 Chris Telting : > >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0seriously, this is why i want that debian+fre= ebsd that was >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0discussed recently. =C2=A0the kernel is ours = and number one in the >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0world. =C2=A0and the ports stuff is basically= packages that more/less >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0just-work. =C2=A0you can get the src =3Dwith= =3D the pkg. >> > > How does debian get around all the "make config" options that we deal wit= h? > =C2=A0Such as does such and such package pull in samba... =C2=A0Or does d= ebian just > compile with every option more or less enabled? "Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a port that consists of GNU userland using the GNU C library on top of FreeBSD's kernel, coupled with the regular Debian package set." from http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ So it seems they basically use their own packages and not the ports. Romain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 10:00:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABA5106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 10:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396FE8FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 10:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so5293122wwc.31 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 03:00:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SYMAhK5hZVyCIDJ0dY4zysLnTYgwCYpdv2GDzeMROsY=; b=uVT5NOjcy+fP7S1bF8h0qKCSfm7pLYS5fONpsBVoTr4vgaGsdJiTbgnjQWoxVr+kqw w5fOgr+2V2XStKW7tZL1LZbIsyOZdYuMUNupD+3LmqE+UHaq0a8z8/RpOTOq2SEw2EYI eT4Sqd9nNWNe0JfZt74OFOsgjeptwP+CR8kRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TrDAbtVYQuTTzKVFmgLhwfUc4ODL22FjhcKhbVeCqE7lUDBzMBP3GkNBWfrhXsnanG Xmds9i4nYTUcHVY+KGT09yZ5ci9eLvQW35DD4RPcAqXkzP479jKhbgDMiCX4POMF4GE0 czcxXKvlffm9GHi5wbv/rT3qKqCQ5SvhUsx0A= Received: by 10.227.197.21 with SMTP id ei21mr5911118wbb.107.1301824852198; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 03:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Groseille.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o23sm2263021wbc.44.2011.04.03.03.00.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Apr 2011 03:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4D984574.2050402@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 12:01:24 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110320 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0DD2BF5C-7387-4AFA-BF43-B1683F3773E8@d3photography.com> <20110402130739.4253ea30@napoleon> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: graphical representation of `du` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:00:54 -0000 On 02/04/2011 19:30, Chris Rees wrote: > On 2 April 2011 18:22, Chris Rees wrote: >> On 2 April 2011 18:07, Mike Jeays wrote: >>> On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:15:04 +0100 >>> Chris Rees wrote: >>> >>>> du -h . | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j>=0;) print a[j--] }' | >>>> awk '{print($2" ["$1"]");}' | sed -e 's,[^-][^/]*/,--,g' -e 's,^,|,' >>> >>> >>> I confess to being impressed... >>> >> >> Yeah, but perhaps I should have used sed instead of the second awk; >> fewer processes: >> >> du -h | awk '{a[i++]=$0} END {for (j=i-1; j>=0;) print a[j--] }' | sed >> -e 's,^[^1-9]*\([^___CTRL-V+TAB______]*\)____CTRL-V+TAB_____*\(.*\)$,\2 >> \[\1\],;s,[^-][^/]*/,--,g;s,^,|,' >> >> That does exactly the same -- where I've put ____CTRL-V+TAB______ you >> have to type Ctrl-V, then a literal [::tab::] key; BSD sed doesn't do >> \t. >> >> Chris >> > > Final version: > > http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/graphical_du.sh > > Maybe I should port it... > Thanks! This rocks! :-) > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 10:05:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83B61065672 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 10:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csanyipal@stcable.net) Received: from mx2.stcable.net (mx2.stcable.net [91.102.225.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F0F8FC14 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 10:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.stcable.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.stcable.net (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 68558C810C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:05:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.stcable.net (smtp.stcable.net [91.102.225.5]) by mx2.stcable.net (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 4E9EFC8109 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:05:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.10.77] (194-170-85-95.dynamic.stcable.net [95.85.170.194]) by smtp.stcable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DF083364F7 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:05:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4D98467D.2000506@stcable.net> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 12:05:49 +0200 From: Paul Chany User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110307 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Could not find /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:05:55 -0000 Hi, I have just installed FreeBSD release 8.2 using FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso and want to install sudo. I did the following: # whereis sudo # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo # make install clean but get error messages: .. Could not find /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk What can I do to solve this problem? -- Best Regards, Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 11:15:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D834106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 11:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F458FC1D for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 11:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p33BFopN067763 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:15:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p33BFopN067763 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1301829350; bh=vmPtZQwi9AdMGOo4sUWTOdaf0XyqmzF9C8xgZI6pl3s=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D9856DF.30801@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun ,=2003=20Apr=202011=2012:15:43=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(Mac intosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20rv: 1.9.2.15)=20Gecko/20110303=20Thunderbird/3.1.9|MIME-Version:=201.0 |To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Could=20not= 20find=20/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk|References:=20<4D98467D.2000506 @stcable.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<4D98467D.2000506@stcable.net>|X-Enig mail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20mul tipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applic ation/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig4799A8 6B98D6EB096B177E8C"; b=0MQ79SI2aeLA+NmFUF4Sip5h52KHC4VF0EFscYaUtleoGUk/qHUAaMJgMgW0AymFn Na8TpULJxani1UuUbi2KulkRceBXl5LU0IsZLuvcoVh59Ex0mtrHqpKeFpGcVfgAr+ bxQsCc6gquz7csJHqT4TPgHLRv6x0d/rFuHPrfYA= Message-ID: <4D9856DF.30801@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 12:15:43 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D98467D.2000506@stcable.net> In-Reply-To: <4D98467D.2000506@stcable.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4799A86B98D6EB096B177E8C" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Could not find /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 11:15:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4799A86B98D6EB096B177E8C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/04/2011 11:05, Paul Chany wrote: > I have just installed FreeBSD release 8.2 using > FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso > and want to install sudo. >=20 > I did the following: >=20 > # whereis sudo > # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo > # make install clean >=20 > but get error messages: >=20 > .. Could not find /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk >=20 > What can I do to solve this problem? You don't have a good copy of /usr/ports installed. Not sure what went wrong there, since you've clearly got parts of it. There are a number of ways of rectifying that, but I recommend just running the following: # portsnap fetch extract Then you should be able to build sudo and any other ports you want. See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.htm= l for the full story on getting and maintaining a current copy of the ports tree. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig4799A86B98D6EB096B177E8C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2YVuUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxBrgCfaGIuw6nPnQrCQHzAgXopB1H8 nJgAnRqY2y+43+eDtLq5f/HiLck60jD4 =WDwH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4799A86B98D6EB096B177E8C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 12:35:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E7C106566C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F2F8FC14 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxc34 with SMTP id 34so4477650vxc.13 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 05:35:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Gjbv33G6frcRE4EPgbNGVobxbQvao2uQrPmBsSU6/yQ=; b=aM1RBy1Kb/0/z8ongbLIXcIOeGuUJFTSybQK2kz3DcHxKqCsFLKbfSrH3+P4KgKstb E8wlK5ma7Opxmyaqll9KlQ4czljTsGunvnInoY1ee+szJjDGdCAwf1mUOrVJ9GYLCLSM 030SNGB2YQQpYNnwzudoponfyyUN3aWfXyzas= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tY7aHm6WhZAF7klbqzuRTRh72YvTzzObTXwQHx8psA5Nm8yeyasQJNbgRvx1aerxDW Tl2m8toysQkSqx4pGa+NdAy+OUFb8x5i2TRgUbGCFehLKdpSWQFfntnGNyvE8SEikhDs 03qfkz7X8PhRLe45Hlpf2Y1BA1APKGuNmygX0= Received: by 10.52.177.195 with SMTP id cs3mr8001608vdc.57.1301834115764; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 05:35:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.166.165 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 05:34:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D97E46D.1000202@telting.org> References: <4D96668C.3090406@telting.org> <4d97ba5a.199K2FcyLXA6+b5f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <9BFF22F1-7559-4107-B149-94A79CA3ADB7@d3photography.com> <20110403014303.GC18031@thought.org> <4D97E46D.1000202@telting.org> From: Christer Solskogen Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:34:55 +0200 Message-ID: To: Chris Telting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 12:35:17 -0000 On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Chris Telting wrote: > > > How does debian get around all the "make config" options that we deal wit= h? > =A0Such as does such and such package pull in samba... =A0Or does debian = just > compile with every option more or less enabled? > Yes, and no. One debian "source" package may create 1 or more binary packages. For instance, Debian has at least two sudo packages (sudo and sudo-ldap) -but only one source package. Take a look here: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/sudo (Also, Debian/Ubuntu also create -dev packages for headers and development libraries, which FreeBSD ports does not (THANK GOD!)) --=20 chs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 13:45:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA24106579D for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csanyipal@stcable.net) Received: from mx2.stcable.net (mx2.stcable.net [91.102.225.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D538FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:45:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.stcable.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.stcable.net (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 91B49C8108 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:45:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.stcable.net (smtp.stcable.net [91.102.225.5]) by mx2.stcable.net (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6D6EDC80F1 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:45:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.10.77] (194-170-85-95.dynamic.stcable.net [95.85.170.194]) by smtp.stcable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 61169364F6 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:45:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4D9879E3.20508@stcable.net> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:45:07 +0200 From: Paul Chany User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110307 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Can't fetch portsnap because of network problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:45:11 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to fetch portsnap but can't because probably of network problem. Whenever I try to run command # portsnap fetch extract the process stall and never reach 20%. It is sad. :( The computer on wich I try to run this command is on my home LAN that has a gateway/router. What can I do to solve this problem? -- Best Regards, Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 13:53:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BFD106566C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C578FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.150] (helo=smtp18.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6NkF-0006Ho-AJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:53:35 +0200 Received: from 524a3a21.cm-4-3a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([82.74.58.33] helo=mail.nagual.nl) by smtp18.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6NkD-0004uM-SI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:53:33 +0200 Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by westmark (Axigen) with (CAMELLIA256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 0A7D2A; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:55:37 +0200 Message-ID: <4D987BDD.30409@nagual.nl> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:53:33 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; nl; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D96668C.3090406@telting.org> <20110402025150.39722549.freebsd@edvax.de> <000301cbf0d5$f0de1e60$d29a5b20$@on.ca> <86bp0oy49k.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> In-Reply-To: <86bp0oy49k.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1Q6NkD-0004uM-SI X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=0.247, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, CM_META_TB_NOARR 0.50, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D 0.67, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: dick@nagual.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Port dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:53:37 -0000 Op 2-4-2011 19:03, Randal L. Schwartz schreef: > That's one of the first things I do with a fresh system that will be > only a server: > > echo "WITHOUT_X11=yes">> /etc/make.conf > > And then *never* use packages. Only ports Are the quotes neccessary? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 14:00:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DBFB1065677 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing@alokat.org) Received: from smtp.alokat.org (smtp.alokat.org [46.4.186.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6578FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.alokat.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.alokat.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F28111250062 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:00:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.24.23] (188-192-38-254-dynip.superkabel.de [188.192.38.254]) by smtp.alokat.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 09C3B1125005A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:00:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4D987D5D.8020203@alokat.org> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:59:57 +0200 From: Alokat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110313 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: console based sound control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:00:19 -0000 Hi, I'm looking for a sound control tool (like alsamixer) but for oss. Does someone know one? Regards, alokat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 14:19:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1C2106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22868FC15 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p33EJVmG069955 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:19:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p33EJVmG069955 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1301840371; bh=0OZbYML8mNkKrm1SY92nc4Bqld4py1uxgSEYrER9SlI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D9881EB.5010508@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2003=20Apr=202011=2015:19:23=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.15)=20Gecko/20110303=20Thunderbird/3.1.9|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Can't=20fe tch=20portsnap=20because=20of=20network=20problem|References:=20<4 D9879E3.20508@stcable.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<4D9879E3.20508@stcable. net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content- Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protoco l=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"----------- -enigB4CD9683DEC50C825EF7E706"; b=OJC6JYoLZoifba7vD8z2KbbNc438y7U0eAW4GiERWglT0kuLkp6zkEBcfdDGj5t8T xE6096WpisjQaWjygemsepEB1d1jhHmY8+Eioz1xl8coRSqRkgaeYiqHg395CdK8TJ POT372joiVk5DNTPUlkV6I1GFTTkmtc22Tv7xqgg= Message-ID: <4D9881EB.5010508@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:19:23 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D9879E3.20508@stcable.net> In-Reply-To: <4D9879E3.20508@stcable.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB4CD9683DEC50C825EF7E706" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Can't fetch portsnap because of network problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:19:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB4CD9683DEC50C825EF7E706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/04/2011 14:45, Paul Chany wrote: > I'm trying to fetch portsnap but can't because probably of network prob= lem. >=20 > Whenever I try to run command > # portsnap fetch extract >=20 > the process stall and never reach 20%. It is sad. :( >=20 > The computer on wich I try to run this command is on my home LAN > that has a gateway/router. >=20 > What can I do to solve this problem? You need to diagnose why your fetch is bombing out. Start by checking over your own equipment and try to eliminate that as a source of problems. Make sure all your cabling is in good condition and that all network plugs are correctly seated. Check for packet errors: # netstat -i Anything non-zero in the Ierrs or Oerrs columns is a cause for concern, especially if the error counters are going up over time. If your gateway/router has the capability, check for the same sort of errors ther= e. Having eliminated your own kit as a source of problems, try looking for network problems between the portsnap servers and you. mtr(8) is good for this purpose, but (of course) catch22: to install it, you'ld need a working ports tree... mtr will show up packet loss on intermediate network links, and various sorts of routing problems. If these are present, then you need to contact your ISP who should be able to sort things out on your behalf. Finally, one thing that can screw up portsnap is a poorly implemented transparent HTTP proxy. My advice: *don't use ISPs that force you to use transparent proxying*. However, if this is what you are lumbered with, then there is a simple work-around: use csup(1) instead of portsnap(8). csup doesn't run over HTTP, so it can't be mangled by broken proxies. Now, if you need help with any of this, you can certainly post here, but for best results you'll need to supply a lot more detail about exactly what it was you did and exactly what the result was. Cut'n'paste from the terminal is good, or use script(1) to save a transcript of a terminal session. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigB4CD9683DEC50C825EF7E706 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2YgfIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxtVQCglLJ/LVhFSv8Xyxpz8apOO7H5 8HIAnjaOwL0xsTMcw7GGpzXovhlghwCj =iq6g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB4CD9683DEC50C825EF7E706-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 14:31:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008FF106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.85.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B447D8FC23 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26301 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Apr 2011 14:04:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1301839468; bh=oyzSeEO10GiwUWvTBcSHI/Gd8wxEi6XxbuMCFLJzxy4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bs53WYrL6rpah99yc7L2R4tF3rqagimI+ncuaxIH+MkJUs9O4Gxwry4jzufFPyvfd9r0bPZTMTcutVyxgEP0SXKYRg85ZDTFXFbTkkQPasXD9cghDVMLw7xpmI0J6fStS817zy1QaIWCLc5O2redEjhlx1f922Gr6DjDsT3qEaY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AtSzFXqTiQknVcV+qRU9bAl/fZGYbtsifkgl5aOU1L1xVBpXnAuZ2fqrO+IoUOr9BxKjyVYkd0i9VFuJ0QSAr8mlxsA5VB6rXyPQpJQ0P4NBOsbpY51IxqoNI6BX/t+MH0ihZLr3n5Wk/yw9X664iz+qaG7W6/EtB2gklD+15HE=; Message-ID: <785997.15181.qm@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: K6hYZYIVM1mlFxwPuC_MiC2KTtOawaYgNwgdGC_XAZb1kQs 09eqb2cMQG93Nc1nY1xso03YZomAegY4j9CBRcEQOS9OTS0rtM8O3uLlV0Qw FLTnMKWjb7_BqMS9VeDd2cPesefWBOCuGofFH_cqDH7V3HSF40_0coNgDJfm 9Qr5gw6cSKM8E75UiNScfMuK0hEPegKtlAOnNf2IoYGC_kj6jiLAg4UzCb8b Da1ahagolWgN1JF6YjqNwaXTWZoQoXHMfG6kvTdzGfxPyWPXaopaUPZeTAvl ycHcL_B3wxCtW7UKlUPHW.avQMzZro1jZNEQ8W5.ZxE4Vy3ZCPhgKz0iah_f 0BdaT6XciKuX4KBiLc2hhf5ZkUZ5oZWOAteUW9JcuBtAzYpG4vZAEkvWz Received: from [98.242.233.74] by web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 07:04:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <4D987D5D.8020203@alokat.org> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 07:04:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: Alokat , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4D987D5D.8020203@alokat.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: console based sound control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:31:09 -0000 I use audacity but that is a sound editor and may not be what you're looking for. ________________________________ From: Alokat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 9:59:57 AM Subject: console based sound control Hi, I'm looking for a sound control tool (like alsamixer) but for oss. Does someone know one? Regards, alokat _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 14:31:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1B1106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39D08FC27 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832E2E8176; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:31:50 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; s=mail; bh=NWi0PPxTSkX1jtcXRF+qynjEKtU=; b=Q4Ve+9 VcxLL/cgnZl7s+P0J5DTX5fwtrQY6SVvX1pJdc2pE92MiMLtVLs/RmX70Vximpd/ jF5kuKOIlyJgJX31HKkyyFRYlCE1qtahbEhOLMQYfh0ilOAMRzWugK7FOSQslio6 oNNnNTbuEWlz0sTbP5WR5ogAxDRfOxqxPpdtA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; q=dns; s=mail; b=lMs1EyLqCehseIuhpEWQoi4kV8KdcibX jSAtAdUGXzqAe59yLa0nBQ+9K6Q/FUBfYRSegp8rlYEdZ5w/Y1XYNaGkanPq3KPE BdyEwFY7axXOWqgRJK9g8fjDxxSDs5O/jjDVxvHpU1d1kt1/TRJ6enSM18NwBgCI HGxD+WlrM2M= Received: from [192.168.1.69] (188-222-18-231.zone13.bethere.co.uk [188.222.18.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D23CE7B60; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:31:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4D9884CE.5040204@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:31:42 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alokat References: <4D987D5D.8020203@alokat.org> In-Reply-To: <4D987D5D.8020203@alokat.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070000040803010803070201" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: console based sound control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:31:52 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070000040803010803070201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/04/2011 14:59, Alokat wrote: > I'm looking for a sound control tool (like alsamixer) but for oss. > > Does someone know one? Have you tried mixer(8)? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dmixer&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D0&= manpath=3DFreeBSD+8.2-RELEASE&format=3Dhtml --=20 Bruce Cran --------------ms070000040803010803070201-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 14:50:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC04B106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailing@alokat.org) Received: from smtp.alokat.org (smtp.alokat.org [46.4.186.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E31B8FC0C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.alokat.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.alokat.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D65A11250062 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:50:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.24.23] (188-192-38-254-dynip.superkabel.de [188.192.38.254]) by smtp.alokat.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 71D7A1125005A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:50:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4D98892E.6010203@alokat.org> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:50:22 +0200 From: Alokat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110313 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D987D5D.8020203@alokat.org> <4D9884CE.5040204@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D9884CE.5040204@cran.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: console based sound control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:50:44 -0000 On 04/03/11 16:31, Bruce Cran wrote: > On 03/04/2011 14:59, Alokat wrote: > >> I'm looking for a sound control tool (like alsamixer) but for oss. >> >> Does someone know one? > > Have you tried mixer(8)? > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mixer&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.2-RELEASE&format=html > > Thanks works fine ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 15:10:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFF61065670 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38ED48FC14 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31831 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2011 15:10:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2011 15:10:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Zgtuns/5EE8lDhGXjLwL2hglBdkehpRh2reSjqJYhLdtJzM4J39AyOOuln3dLCFRjD7fVwYD0ZblenWEJ9H+EcaQiZrQVUQz4irt4XUL8wppP5znys5Rk1R58wOoBhiF; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6Owa-0005HV-2I for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 09:10:25 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 03 Apr 2011 08:57:59 -0600 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 08:57:59 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110403145759.GA92121@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D96668C.3090406@telting.org> <4d97ba5a.199K2FcyLXA6+b5f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4d97ba5a.199K2FcyLXA6+b5f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Port dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:10:26 -0000 --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 05:07:54PM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Chris Rees wrote: > > On 2 April 2011 00:58, Chris Telting wrote: > > > > > > One of my biggest gripes with the ports system is dependency hell. > > > > I think you've misunderstood the term dependency hell [1]. Anyone > > who has spent hours struggling with rpm ... would never dare to > > even think of such terms when using the Ports Collection. >=20 > Dependency purgatory? I'd say it's something more like "dependency real-world". Purgatory would be Ubuntu, where installing something with Synaptic doesn't require you to track all the (recursive) dependencies yourself, but uninstalling Evolution can break the whole system because of the insanely inclusive dependency policies for packages. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk2YivcACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUtHwCgpiHKtwNeOwvW2R6U2ixv1Slf XwUAn2trLF68mJDrtqgnc/V/rUys6M7Z =+4Ws -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 15:58:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5342106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB1188FC13 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 361 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2011 15:58:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2011 15:58:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ZxnUGUIHOfQHA1+BRrNayJh7IhC/xC6g8lpmidQrf2rH5KLwaVJ7taie62/mjbWccrcaJXXzoYYigiMVuKmNPxMpG1Jn0O4Wr+/IZMCoVm3ZvWdIbG8N5oCX8sIKdONB; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6PhT-00047p-Re for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 09:58:52 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 03 Apr 2011 09:46:27 -0600 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110403154626.GD92121@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> <20110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uxuisgdDHaNETlh8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:58:54 -0000 --uxuisgdDHaNETlh8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 03:43:59AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > For example, you could install an IMAP interface for mail stored on the > server, so you can access it by any IMAP capable client you want, and > you could even install a web mail client (e. g. roundcube) to bind to > that IMAP inter- face. In my opinion, this is way better than the > POP/no-SMTP thing I'm currently doing. Why Roundcube? From what I've seen, it doesn't handle quote indentation and marking properly. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --uxuisgdDHaNETlh8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk2YllIACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKU5wwCeIH4bSe/uaVZCFQR1exW9rX63 RXQAoJg9/ST9/NFHqagO8ZCPUi+38pvg =2gFG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uxuisgdDHaNETlh8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 16:25:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F671106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kennethparit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B9D8FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so5462280wwc.31 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 09:25:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=bC7mYJt95g0yRIlI91KMT1SLJ0GJIbicijUYwY3MMBw=; b=LyteRxiBwvvTdt5NXlpnkoQAxnCJEfdiG/U1CmS9tJnmi7veahXq/ElxoAunnL+oBR 2puQsIScum6bHHXNMn+wiPrsj4Sd9c2Ff/zStTVcsVbaPcef71ynOUUxmSXK5vSNYs+T ylOy3N1ZV/h/ufjVxN2N8L2rhgi5M2CzT+aEI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=B11C3fUX+ZBT4HLJiGuH/FyMpgPIwo5infIx47SHpEU4SV/+Z7rHZTmAChwhKHTPUQ 0IhLY0osURt/gt/yq+MDt2yZY4jK1QQPHMoeiNoQBic7Tqs9S5/zP80lZUmOdrnulmSD 4HeqYdFoveagVnuKFTshY08o23jfVaRWnyWt4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.153.152 with SMTP id k24mr3208446wbw.3.1301846247395; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 08:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.69.17 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 08:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:57:27 +0300 Message-ID: From: Kenneth Parit To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: DNS Administrator - Kenya X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kennethparit@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:25:30 -0000 Hello, I look forward to becoming the DNS Administrator for my country Kenya. It is impossible to download FreeBSD 8.2 from any of the mirror sites due to disconnections. Since I am contactable any day/time of the year and skilled in DNS setup, kindly email me the latest stable FreeBSD to be installed on Mac Pro (Model 1,1). The following specs: - Dual-Core Intel Xeon - Processor speed 2 GHz - 4 core (2 processors) - L2 Cache (per processor) - 4MB - Memory - 1GB - Bus Speed - 1.33 GHz - Boot ROM Version - MP11.005C.B04 - SMC Version - 1.7f6 - Serial Number - CK6350U0UPZ - Intel - ESB2 AHCI - Speed - 3.0 Gigabit - Capacity - 150 GB - DNS Server address 41.212.3.2, 212.165.130.9 Please keep in mind that FreeBSD is alittle overwhelming though my passion in learning is equally high. Include all installation and configuration information required. Many thanks. Kind regards Kenneth Parit +254 752 776675 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 16:32:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CE8106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8E18FC15 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDA3E8136; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:32:23 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; s=mail; bh=M2CDzb6X1TwRoIHRv44NwqFs9X8=; b=h9OpPT ex5jmEBU+cNMaBFBxZM28qdlLXMwHDV4WfRcgyioobFnwsxG+69WP5oWGDSRbQMh LL3lD1hKeCdtYQQClBZ0G/BgbH5p3N0FnZgKLvO0DC96xYafkPAEcVKPiSElov3h keoK8oMrOeYDuZnYpNqV/pGii2elYjZQhd2EY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; q=dns; s=mail; b=FU041mz2hX0+aSeG5HgldrB2ZdJw6rHS 8VprQmDRCnUplEA6018hOZr0ed/05JyqfLLJwIgSslrw7+q4GpLQ9mSlDWflXE5f hvZQwCaxoUa+z/Xw3QdEWB0EE+dyAgZOzd6WA4db0w4jEBKqgomMBFWZrFGAqJZ0 DvxWK0Nv1MA= Received: from [192.168.1.69] (188-222-18-231.zone13.bethere.co.uk [188.222.18.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F708E7B60; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:32:23 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4D98A10F.4060805@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:32:15 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Chanters References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020404010105030905040100" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:32:24 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020404010105030905040100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/04/2011 21:54, David Chanters wrote: > You could have just sent yourself an email. But yes, here you are. I was going to suggest Gary should have used the freebsd-test mailing=20 list but then I realised it's been broken since May last year. --=20 Bruce Cran --------------ms020404010105030905040100-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 16:35:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F189E106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csanyipal@stcable.net) Received: from mx2.stcable.net (mx2.stcable.net [91.102.225.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13F28FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:35:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.stcable.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.stcable.net (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7ADD9C8103 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:35:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.stcable.net (smtp.stcable.net [91.102.225.5]) by mx2.stcable.net (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5BC24C80F1 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:35:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.10.77] (194-170-85-95.dynamic.stcable.net [95.85.170.194]) by smtp.stcable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4A2AD36316 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:35:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4D98A1D0.5030706@stcable.net> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:35:28 +0200 From: Paul Chany User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110307 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D9879E3.20508@stcable.net> <4D9881EB.5010508@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D9881EB.5010508@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010303020407060203070704" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Can't fetch portsnap because of network problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:35:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010303020407060203070704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 2011-04-03 16:19 keltezéssel, Matthew Seaman írta: > On 03/04/2011 14:45, Paul Chany wrote: > >> I'm trying to fetch portsnap but can't because probably of network problem. >> >> Whenever I try to run command >> # portsnap fetch extract >> >> the process stall and never reach 20%. It is sad. :( >> >> The computer on wich I try to run this command is on my home LAN >> that has a gateway/router. >> >> What can I do to solve this problem? >> > You need to diagnose why your fetch is bombing out. Start by checking > over your own equipment and try to eliminate that as a source of > problems. Make sure all your cabling is in good condition and that all > network plugs are correctly seated. Check for packet errors: > > # netstat -i > > All my cabling is in good condition and all network plugs are correctly seated. I attached the output of '# netstat -i' command in netstat.log file. One can see there are 26 Oerrs in the file. Informations of my home LAN are: domain: excito gateway: 192.168.10.1 name server: 192.168.10.1 netmask: 255.255.255.0 Any advices will be appreciated! -- Best Regards, Paul --------------010303020407060203070704-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 16:51:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7272C106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csanyipal@stcable.net) Received: from mx2.stcable.net (mx2.stcable.net [91.102.225.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FDB8FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:51:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.stcable.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.stcable.net (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C4DC1C8103 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:51:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.stcable.net (smtp.stcable.net [91.102.225.5]) by mx2.stcable.net (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A64FCC80F1 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:51:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.10.77] (194-170-85-95.dynamic.stcable.net [95.85.170.194]) by smtp.stcable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 92E4B36316 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:51:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4D98A5A3.3070306@stcable.net> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:51:47 +0200 From: Paul Chany User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110307 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D9879E3.20508@stcable.net> <4D9881EB.5010508@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4D98A1D0.5030706@stcable.net> In-Reply-To: <4D98A1D0.5030706@stcable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Can't fetch portsnap because of network problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:51:51 -0000 2011-04-03 18:35 keltezéssel, Paul Chany írta: > 2011-04-03 16:19 keltezéssel, Matthew Seaman írta: >> On 03/04/2011 14:45, Paul Chany wrote: >>> I'm trying to fetch portsnap but can't because probably of network >>> problem. >>> >>> Whenever I try to run command >>> # portsnap fetch extract >>> >>> the process stall and never reach 20%. It is sad. :( >>> >>> The computer on wich I try to run this command is on my home LAN >>> that has a gateway/router. >>> >>> What can I do to solve this problem? >> You need to diagnose why your fetch is bombing out. Start by checking >> over your own equipment and try to eliminate that as a source of >> problems. Make sure all your cabling is in good condition and that all >> network plugs are correctly seated. Check for packet errors: >> >> # netstat -i >> > All my cabling is in good condition and all network plugs are > correctly seated. > > I attached the output of '# netstat -i' command in netstat.log file. Well, it seems that one can't to send mail with attached file onto list, right? Here is the output of netstat -i: Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Idrop Opkts Oerrs Coll plip0 1500 0 0 0 0 0 0 lo0 16384 0 0 0 0 0 0 lo0 16384 fe80:2::1 fe80:2::1 0 - - 0 - - lo0 16384 localhost ::1 0 - - 0 - - lo0 16384 your-net localhost 0 - - 0 - - ue0 1500 00:00:e8:00:11:f1 72968 0 0 48671 26 0 ue0 1500 192.168.10.0 cspetoile.localdo 72934 - - 48682 - - -- Best Regards, Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 16:54:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E07106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpg@griffin.gnix.co.uk) Received: from griffin.gnix.co.uk (griffin.gnix.co.uk [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43408FC0C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 16:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from griffin.gnix.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by griffin.gnix.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC1D2297B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:43:45 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gnix.co.uk Received: from griffin.gnix.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by griffin.gnix.co.uk (griffin.gnix.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5aP3cXIioXaI for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:43:34 +0100 (BST) Received: by griffin.gnix.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 36D622297A; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:43:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:43:34 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110403164334.GA3072@griffin.gnix.co.uk> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://gnix.co.uk/jpg-pubkey.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: DNS Administrator - Kenya X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:54:33 -0000 On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 06:57:27PM +0300, Kenneth Parit wrote: > Hello, > > I look forward to becoming the DNS Administrator for my country Kenya. > > It is impossible to download FreeBSD 8.2 from any of the mirror sites > due to disconnections. > > Since I am contactable any day/time of the year and skilled in DNS > setup, kindly email me the latest stable FreeBSD to be installed on > Mac Pro (Model 1,1). The following specs: why don't you buy a cd set from the FreeBSD Mall and have it posted to you, then you will be supporting the project as well as putting those DNS skills to good use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 17:11:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457E3106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4E18FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4412709bwz.13 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:11:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QwlDFgT0hLVCkHEqhWm3EU2LYl5P35vuIHa/FHAOlM8=; b=Fdo1fA/WZySR7PaFwWD8dTdvtue+DtZzSkdFfFWWNToE7xisdSYuq3VyrpSkaAriRj X4sTpQLbfSRB81EvE4qbqpNF2TS0e21Gd2Yby4zn9Q5C1yBau5TngS8nEVboH4mN/Xln LPc4i3qqIBgTBmZZ+IgtO4oWlqHzQqkUDoSvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=sMkJXIVVoFJLsl3mYYvyqCQSexulzpX+HVKzKhhGiA4MDdjvMhoKXdNWNTTIPXSX12 fX/zYUuBMBeyoMDrXqZsRZ6Cu1azp1g2ESwkUqkrHEEtMFPuSf3CKFkfbjMOqCPalbHq lHJoWylaK5UZVKB3HXvwjL2MvnzcmfcubUVpA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.7.17 with SMTP id b17mr1415987bkb.214.1301850668469; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.64.142 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 10:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.64.142 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 10:11:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D98A10F.4060805@cran.org.uk> References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <4D98A10F.4060805@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:11:08 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Gary Kline , David Chanters , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:11:10 -0000 On 3 Apr 2011 17:32, "Bruce Cran" wrote: > > On 02/04/2011 21:54, David Chanters wrote: > >> You could have just sent yourself an email. But yes, here you are. > > > I was going to suggest Gary should have used the freebsd-test mailing list but then I realised it's been broken since May last year. > Hah, ironic or what??? Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 17:23:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785E81065674 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csanyipal@stcable.net) Received: from mx2.stcable.net (mx2.stcable.net [91.102.225.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1C38FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.stcable.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.stcable.net (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3E831C810D for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:23:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.stcable.net (smtp.stcable.net [91.102.225.5]) by mx2.stcable.net (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 21B2DC80F1 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:23:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.10.77] (194-170-85-95.dynamic.stcable.net [95.85.170.194]) by smtp.stcable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0E3E1364F9 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:23:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4D98AD24.7020003@stcable.net> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:23:48 +0200 From: Paul Chany User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110307 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D9879E3.20508@stcable.net> <4D9881EB.5010508@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D9881EB.5010508@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Can't fetch portsnap because of network problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:23:52 -0000 2011-04-03 16:19 keltezéssel, Matthew Seaman írta: > On 03/04/2011 14:45, Paul Chany wrote: > >> I'm trying to fetch portsnap but can't because probably of network problem. >> >> Whenever I try to run command >> # portsnap fetch extract >> >> the process stall and never reach 20%. It is sad. :( >> >> The computer on wich I try to run this command is on my home LAN >> that has a gateway/router. >> >> What can I do to solve this problem? >> > You need to diagnose why your fetch is bombing out. Start by checking > over your own equipment and try to eliminate that as a source of > problems. Make sure all your cabling is in good condition and that all > network plugs are correctly seated. Check for packet errors: > > # netstat -i > > Anything non-zero in the Ierrs or Oerrs columns is a cause for concern, > especially if the error counters are going up over time. If your > gateway/router has the capability, check for the same sort of errors there. > On my gateway/router the output of 'netstat -i' command is_ Kernel Interface table Iface MTU Met RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg eth0 1500 0 7914770 0 0 0 3427615 0 0 0 BRU eth1 1500 0 3369182 0 0 0 5234370 0 0 0 ABMRU lo 16436 0 1193 0 0 0 1193 0 0 0 LRU -- Best Regards, Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 17:35:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1303C106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978D48FC15 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so4870951wyf.13 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:35:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EyinavXvnbvJiQC111+b1zzYQjYRNNQPaaLKW3nZjFo=; b=s2BZAYMNwviRB2V6D5Oj9Izct3akgHgYJX0iJiogjMMTTZEcEQ+6c5sX1mAJwELutc 4YXICmZfmohVjWv2KidhP71Tu9tugIPD6sA/C6SrhbnWZLOAQAZMBXmywEErcVq88aFp CQRVcLAf5Zwd+AI2Rxxk2Cc1CjyF/GbWMhh90= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SgK+ZV0yBtxDwaBhFgYgusmHB9MJ7zQz2kXb0hbKT1tlVXK+JuQfaVa4OS8xe7OqPG ohZgwSJhVGsdopItpX3BG0nq1MMI0t7avQ4ODuTTzBnZ6ubQozgE8KeolzhJNEriVet5 Z0nbbqlZ5Mswcqe2y/vu7fC3839pEkFlKjZuM= Received: by 10.216.47.19 with SMTP id s19mr3013402web.56.1301852108390; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Groseille.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o23sm2451609wbc.44.2011.04.03.10.35.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4D98AFED.20602@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:35:41 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110320 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D987D5D.8020203@alokat.org> In-Reply-To: <4D987D5D.8020203@alokat.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: console based sound control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:35:10 -0000 On 03/04/2011 15:59, Alokat wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a sound control tool (like alsamixer) but for oss. > > Does someone know one? > > Regards, > alokat > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" try them : audio/aumix Audio mixer for X11, terminal, or command line audio/umix Advanced tool for adjusting soundcard mixers, replacement for aumix Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 17:35:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C65B10656B3 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f45.google.com (mail-qw0-f45.google.com [209.85.216.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3340F8FC0C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj8 with SMTP id 8so4401185qwj.18 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:35:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=nU4QQLr+TvzzzcpDy5t9EH3dRv/1WlwTr7N1IqgGAwY=; b=MQwPGpV0EJhMl9nD7csZKegpIM03eGJilv8TeZvcYvy7h63gy7I7eWd93KG2qufyb/ TjJLJ0XMNrt2gsDmptnKROLYbdPd7k6DfRaJBe1SRBmSVWQawJnxfZbvNlM3AL370F1m 21HDYHOVHfITmXV9m7A9P+Axp7CKuckkFS/oc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=pz3tWpn6FOEBnqFmNQ0raXI7uR8SVB6aO0v1LG1S0jh8OAsZNATm0TggKmEbkdPk48 HJL/A8a2s7RYJnG4nRQTYfc9i2l3MTLT8fMx4isElTc2Ii/JIgyETFVzgSf6r36gWTzn s4aFVX6EcQgV37xh80E0GQiyuzC0o00R7TsiM= Received: by 10.229.105.71 with SMTP id s7mr5034643qco.23.1301850689123; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:11:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.101.196 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 10:10:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:10:49 +0300 Message-ID: To: kennethparit@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS Administrator - Kenya X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:35:17 -0000 On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 18:57, Kenneth Parit wrote: > Hello, > > I look forward to becoming the DNS Administrator for my country Kenya. > > It is impossible to download FreeBSD 8.2 from any of the mirror sites > due to disconnections. > > Since I am contactable any day/time of the year and skilled in DNS > setup, kindly email me the latest stable FreeBSD to be installed on > Mac Pro (Model 1,1). The following specs: > > - Dual-Core Intel Xeon > - Processor speed 2 GHz - 4 core (2 processors) > - L2 Cache (per processor) - 4MB > - Memory - 1GB > - Bus Speed - 1.33 GHz > - Boot ROM Version - MP11.005C.B04 > - SMC Version - 1.7f6 > - Serial Number - CK6350U0UPZ > - Intel - ESB2 AHCI > - Speed - 3.0 Gigabit > - Capacity - 150 GB > - DNS Server address 41.212.3.2, 212.165.130.9 > > Please keep in mind that FreeBSD is alittle overwhelming though my passion > in learning is equally high. Include all installation and configuration > information required. > > Many thanks. > > Kind regards > > Kenneth Parit > +254 752 776675 > Hello Parit, Please contact me on any of the two numbers appearing in my signature text. You will get FreeBSD 8.2 DVD from me. You can find me at Wilson Airport, If you find FreeBSD a little overwhelming, I am a phone call (or even an e-mail away) if you need help. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 18:29:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F9B106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:29:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csanyipal@stcable.net) Received: from mx2.stcable.net (mx2.stcable.net [91.102.225.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5898FC0A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:29:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx2.stcable.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.stcable.net (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C93EBC810D for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:29:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.stcable.net (smtp.stcable.net [91.102.225.5]) by mx2.stcable.net (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A0A00C80F1 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:29:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.10.77] (194-170-85-95.dynamic.stcable.net [95.85.170.194]) by smtp.stcable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8EA6136316 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:29:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4D98BC99.9080205@stcable.net> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:29:45 +0200 From: Paul Chany User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110307 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D9879E3.20508@stcable.net> <4D9881EB.5010508@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D9881EB.5010508@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Can't fetch portsnap because of network problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:29:50 -0000 2011-04-03 16:19 keltezéssel, Matthew Seaman írta: > On 03/04/2011 14:45, Paul Chany wrote: > >> I'm trying to fetch portsnap but can't because probably of network problem. >> >> Whenever I try to run command >> # portsnap fetch extract >> >> the process stall and never reach 20%. It is sad. :( >> >> The computer on wich I try to run this command is on my home LAN >> that has a gateway/router. >> >> What can I do to solve this problem? >> > You need to diagnose why your fetch is bombing out. Start by checking > over your own equipment and try to eliminate that as a source of > problems. Make sure all your cabling is in good condition and that all > network plugs are correctly seated. Check for packet errors: > > # netstat -i > Well, maybe this does not cause the solution but: I change in /etc/portsnap.conf the server from: SERVERNAME=portsnap.FreeBSD.org to a portsnap mirror: SERVERNAME=portsnap1.FreeBSD.org and after that I can fetch ports. -- Best Regards, Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 19:21:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C618106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf15.insightbb.com (mxsf15.insightbb.com [74.128.0.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079BD8FC17 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:21:31 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,293,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="298723456" Received: from unknown (HELO asav01.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf15.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2011 15:21:31 -0400 X-Connecting-IP: 74.132.139.5 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AopeAHjImE1KhIsFO2dsb2JhbACJEY9PjH0LAQEBATcywACFawQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,293,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="337197333" Received: from 74-132-139-5.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.132.139.5]) by asavout01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2011 15:21:19 -0400 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:21:13 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE; KDE/4.6.1; i386; ; ) X-Face: 'CKH?$7Tmstol+2>#.#vG:vLzHB7#y&*vf9zUAuvboAg[stvjtqmvk0|3muH3SRC=jkCG] 3rWO]#<$z'k_J!bW}h1m\tg(Sjv}k^)&:2Y}qB, ]soJ@:0hn$8'ForyG\WR8lF*'2w(1Hn e+6I(C8N?(^qV9TK7bh"@%I?bf3-~2]IyzY{JA@nGnP8# MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201104031521.14022.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: Kaffeine anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:21:32 -0000 I like kaffeine's playlist, but how do the Artist, Album, and track fields get populated or edited? I'm asking on FreeBSD because it may be via File Manager and extended attributes. 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Sun, 03 Apr 2011 12:57:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.64.142 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:57:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0DD2BF5C-7387-4AFA-BF43-B1683F3773E8@d3photography.com> <4D984574.2050402@gmail.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:57:24 +0100 Message-ID: To: =?KOI8-R?B?4dfT1MnOIOvJzQ==?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Re[2]: graphical representation of `du` X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:57:56 -0000 On 3 April 2011 20:26, =E1=D7=D3=D4=C9=CE =EB=C9=CD wrote: > Sun, 03 Apr 2011 12:01:24 +0200 =D0=C9=D3=D8=CD=CF =CF=D4 David Demelier = : > >> On 02/04/2011 19:30, Chris Rees wrote: >> > On 2 April 2011 18:22, Chris Rees =9Awrote: >> >> On 2 April 2011 18:07, Mike Jeays =9Awrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 17:15:04 +0100 >> >>> Chris Rees =9Awrote: >> >>> >> >>>> du -h . | awk '{a[i++]=3D$0} END {for (j=3Di-1; j>=3D0;) print a[j-= -] }' | >> >>>> awk '{print($2" ["$1"]");}' | sed -e 's,[^-][^/]*/,--,g' -e 's,^,|,= ' >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I confess to being impressed... >> >>> >> >> >> >> Yeah, but perhaps I should have used sed instead of the second awk; >> >> fewer processes: >> >> >> >> du -h | awk '{a[i++]=3D$0} END {for (j=3Di-1; j>=3D0;) print a[j--] }= ' | sed >> >> -e 's,^[^1-9]*\([^___CTRL-V+TAB______]*\)____CTRL-V+TAB_____*\(.*\)$,= \2 >> >> \[\1\],;s,[^-][^/]*/,--,g;s,^,|,' >> >> >> >> That does exactly the same -- =9Awhere I've put ____CTRL-V+TAB______ = you >> >> have to type Ctrl-V, then a literal [::tab::] key; BSD sed doesn't do >> >> \t. >> >> >> >> Chris >> >> >> > >> > Final version: >> > >> > http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/graphical_du.sh >> > >> > Maybe I should port it... >> > >> >> Thanks! This rocks! :-) >> > > What a fun thread :) > > Here's my two cents, written as an sh(1) function that you can tack on to= the end of your .profile or .shrc: > (Caveats: =9AI'm writing this on a Mac OS X machine, not on a FreeBSD mac= hine, at the moment, but hopefully this'll still work. > Also, the following will mess up if you have directories whose names begi= n with "|".) > > # dg: =9A`du--graphical' > # Usage: =9Adg [dir ...] > # Based on script by Chris Rees > # 1459 Sunday, 3 April 2011 > > dg ( ) { > =9Adu -h "$@" | > =9A =9Aawk '{FS=3D"\t"; print $2"\t["$1"]"}' | > =9A =9Asort | > =9A =9Ased -e 's:[^/]*/:| :g' -e 's:\(^\(| \)*\)| \([^|].*\):\1+-\3:' > =9Areturn > =9A} I used the awk a[i++]=3D$0} END {for (j=3Di-1; j>=3D0;) print a[j--] etc t= o reverse the order, rather than alphabetise it because it's quicker: $ du -h . | time sort >/dev/null 2>time $ cat time 8.17 real 0.03 user 0.00 sys $ du -h . | time awk '{a[i++]=3D$2} END { for (j=3Di-1; j>=3D0;) print a[j--] }' >/dev/null 2>time2 $ cat time2 7.77 real 0.14 user 0.00 sys YMMV of course! Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 20:23:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C497106564A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:23:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1255E8FC19 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so4944858wyf.13 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:23:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KLbpapD1LavaqQRB3DM6ZH3+9XtfSudjAEJDM/3frqM=; b=O4fQYB7/3gXG5xWmXp7jncncrtdkZwXM23EMBgQWKYsB7VNB8GJxBDhspzycEVoUo5 daqLEjdsTPMhamblov2old4+NRmGYKxnxOxEGkDhma7WKa+wprqsFv5cuEElSvD7/W+h KXvw5s7XwL3lbhQd1m2RsLUbaiO6lMptuS/sw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=PCvbfHi/+BmsaVjQQKM1aPPDYG6K0W/oGsgghUDas5ZXEZqS3izufJYZTCnjuXYepH /oOGmki59YHg/HEr+evGDT3yIMHIM7dRaIwL/RX4H5Sf6J6WddwDCjL8Ybry8FDbabiJ QkqUqD++c1B04WuBtSRSl7K0Qtllc67I9jfgQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.6.27 with SMTP id 27mr279822wem.69.1301860870157; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.187.16 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:01:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 21:01:10 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Odhiambo Washington Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, kennethparit@gmail.com Subject: Re: DNS Administrator - Kenya X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:23:58 -0000 On 3 April 2011 18:10, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 18:57, Kenneth Parit > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I look forward to becoming the DNS Administrator for my country Kenya. > > > > It is impossible to download FreeBSD 8.2 from any of the mirror sites > > due to disconnections. > > > > Since I am contactable any day/time of the year and skilled in DNS > > setup, kindly email me the latest stable FreeBSD to be installed on > > Mac Pro (Model 1,1). The following specs: > > > > - Dual-Core Intel Xeon > > - Processor speed 2 GHz - 4 core (2 processors) > > - L2 Cache (per processor) - 4MB > > - Memory - 1GB > > - Bus Speed - 1.33 GHz > > - Boot ROM Version - MP11.005C.B04 > > - SMC Version - 1.7f6 > > - Serial Number - CK6350U0UPZ > > - Intel - ESB2 AHCI > > - Speed - 3.0 Gigabit > > - Capacity - 150 GB > > - DNS Server address 41.212.3.2, 212.165.130.9 > > > > Please keep in mind that FreeBSD is alittle overwhelming though my > passion > > in learning is equally high. Include all installation and configuration > > information required. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Kenneth Parit > > +254 752 776675 > > > > > Hello Parit, > > Please contact me on any of the two numbers appearing in my signature text. > You will get FreeBSD 8.2 DVD from me. You can find me at Wilson Airport, > If you find FreeBSD a little overwhelming, I am a phone call (or even an > e-mail away) if you need help. > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > Damn!! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > alternatively try one of the torrents, it should survive disconnections far better than ftp etc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 21:40:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3684A10656B3 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 21:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89408FC1A for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 21:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27914 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:08:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201104032108.PAA27914@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 12:56:00 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Last Stacker patent expires May 14th X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:40:54 -0000 Everyone: The last of the Stac data compression patents, granted in 1991, expires on May 14th of this year. For a long time, all implementations of PPP for FreeBSD have had stubs for the Stac compression methods (in particular, MPPC; see, for example, /sys/netgraph/mppc.c) and there's now absolutely no reason for them to do so anymore. (Linux, in fact, has jumped the gun and has compression code available.) Shall we start coding? --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 22:19:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBBC106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3E68FC0C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4344FE80630; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:19:57 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Romain Garbage Message-ID: <20110403221957.GC25857@thought.org> References: <4D96668C.3090406@telting.org> <4d97ba5a.199K2FcyLXA6+b5f%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <9BFF22F1-7559-4107-B149-94A79CA3ADB7@d3photography.com> <20110403014303.GC18031@thought.org> <4D97E46D.1000202@telting.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Chris Telting , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port dependencies X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:19:58 -0000 On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 10:35:08AM +0200, Romain Garbage wrote: > 2011/4/3 Chris Telting : > > > >>        seriously, this is why i want that debian+freebsd that was > >>        discussed recently.  the kernel is ours and number one in the > >>        world.  and the ports stuff is basically packages that more/less > >>        just-work.  you can get the src =with= the pkg. > >> > > > > How does debian get around all the "make config" options that we deal with? > >  Such as does such and such package pull in samba...  Or does debian just > > compile with every option more or less enabled? > > "Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a port that consists of GNU userland using the > GNU C library on top of FreeBSD's kernel, coupled with the regular > Debian package set." from http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ > > So it seems they basically use their own packages and not the ports. > > Romain Well, so then _this_ is ho w thei r stuff works together. It is all from the deb packages. gary Ps: i'm glad i quit porting our libc to the gnu world back in 199[?]. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 23:04:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2A9106566B for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 23:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from moku60.aloha50.net (moku60.aloha50.net [66.180.132.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2284F8FC14 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 23:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by moku60.aloha50.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5D21703E; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:04:39 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4D98FD07.1040702@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:04:39 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <4D98A10F.4060805@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D98A10F.4060805@cran.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , David Chanters , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:04:41 -0000 Bruce Cran wrote: > On 02/04/2011 21:54, David Chanters wrote: > >> You could have just sent yourself an email. But yes, here you are. > > I was going to suggest Gary should have used the freebsd-test mailing > list but then I realised it's been broken since May last year. > ######3 Aloha Bruce, Recently I've sent tests to a couple of our subscribers that I know personally since the tests never came back. Thanks for the heads up as to why. Any chance of getting it fixed? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 23:24:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0AE106566C for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 23:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BD78FC18 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 23:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-79.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.79]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68FA3CA59; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:24:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p33NO0LJ001574; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:24:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:23:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Alokat Message-Id: <20110404012359.e1018436.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4D987D5D.8020203@alokat.org> References: <4D987D5D.8020203@alokat.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: console based sound control X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:24:02 -0000 On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:59:57 +0200, Alokat wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a sound control tool (like alsamixer) but for oss. With "sound control", you mean a mixer program, correct? FreeBSD brings its own system program for that - see "man mixer" for details. There's also a port that provides a curses-based "graphical" mixer, the port brings both a mixer for console and one for X, but sadly I can't remember its name... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 23:37:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB8F1065672 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 23:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3568FC16 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 23:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-79.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.79]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D4B3CD08; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:37:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p33NboIB002444; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:37:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:37:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20110404013750.a3bcee50.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110403154626.GD92121@guilt.hydra> References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> <20110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110403154626.GD92121@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:37:52 -0000 On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 03:43:59AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > > For example, you could install an IMAP interface for mail stored on the > > server, so you can access it by any IMAP capable client you want, and > > you could even install a web mail client (e. g. roundcube) to bind to > > that IMAP inter- face. In my opinion, this is way better than the > > POP/no-SMTP thing I'm currently doing. > > Why Roundcube? From what I've seen, it doesn't handle quote indentation > and marking properly. Why not? :-) From my limited testing, I found it suitable for most of my "I don't care" customers who do not use indentation or quoting properly. But the advantage of IMAP (e. g. cyrus-imap, courier-imap) is that you can use ANY client program, therefore any web-based mailer you want. There are several others available, such as sqwebmail or openwebmail with different features... RoudCube was just the first solution that came to my mind, I didn't want to say that it's the only solution that does exist. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 00:28:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E882F106564A for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEC658FC13 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4864 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2011 00:28:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2011 00:28:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=EAqB7EEZZmqE3B/kM6PTsxOkw49B1yf8MPwvUFMyMT8BtrTog6dOiH4SI+SU8aAPCpOWWO9ycjVuBgzyZOg/a2CFK4OnA93QJ18UfHE1lj5LpbLmoW7mq/y9GB7ZI5YA; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6XeQ-0003OF-MS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:28:15 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:15:48 -0600 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:15:48 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110404001548.GA96327@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> <20110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110403154626.GD92121@guilt.hydra> <20110404013750.a3bcee50.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110404013750.a3bcee50.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 00:28:17 -0000 --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 01:37:50AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 09:46:26 -0600, Chad Perrin wrot= e: > > On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 03:43:59AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > >=20 > > > For example, you could install an IMAP interface for mail stored on > > > the server, so you can access it by any IMAP capable client you > > > want, and you could even install a web mail client (e. g. > > > roundcube) to bind to that IMAP inter- face. In my opinion, this is > > > way better than the POP/no-SMTP thing I'm currently doing. > >=20 > > Why Roundcube? From what I've seen, it doesn't handle quote > > indentation and marking properly. >=20 > Why not? :-) Please tell me why you would want to inflict this kind of behavior on others: > > > > > > For example, you could install an IMAP interface for mail stored on > > > the server, so you can access it by any IMAP capable client you > > > want, and you could even install a web mail client (e. g. > > > roundcube) to bind to that IMAP inter- face. In my opinion, this is > > > way better than the POP/no-SMTP thing I'm currently doing. I've seen Roundcube do this crap. It does *not* make me happy when trying to skim through emails quickly -- and it can be bad when reading more closely, too. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk2ZDbQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWQmwCg0hbNqzKIYPLJjzXjRf+ek30W +nAAnAkcmUfuBVVwYnn9abEpzZLruGgk =FhWN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 00:33:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D60A106564A for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:33:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05B38FC0A for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-79.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.79]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B321E106; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 02:33:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p340XsAP002596; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 02:33:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 02:33:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20110404023353.ccfd1998.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110404001548.GA96327@guilt.hydra> References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> <20110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110403154626.GD92121@guilt.hydra> <20110404013750.a3bcee50.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110404001548.GA96327@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 00:33:57 -0000 On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:15:48 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > I've seen Roundcube do this crap. It does *not* make me happy when > trying to skim through emails quickly -- and it can be bad when reading > more closely, too. You're fully correct, it may not be the best solution for power users. In this case, an IMAP-capable *local* client program would be much better. With local caching, you can also improve speed. And even programs with good keyboard support are possible, even programs for use in text mode do exist (a welcome solution for blind users). Sadly, my dear customers wanted web mail, and they insisted on RoundCube, so they got it. They're slow in thinkind and reading, slower in typing, so the program speed is still too fast for them. That's all the magic behind the story. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 00:43:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043E9106566B for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3F658FC12 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 00:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14714 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2011 00:43:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2011 00:43:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=LvBbKWN+OA1/jHje11W90uA0WUA9Z5KYu+h3BzOCA2RzajGgKAG237FSDRwCYoOHJwXwDhdpvyYgrRBmZlCXqbIiEGCejNqkGBb8NyeJgCbVrHXTaVZnrzA/hcm8hmqw; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6Xt7-0002lD-4N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:43:26 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:30:59 -0600 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:30:59 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110404003059.GA96430@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> <20110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110403154626.GD92121@guilt.hydra> <20110404013750.a3bcee50.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110404001548.GA96327@guilt.hydra> <20110404023353.ccfd1998.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110404023353.ccfd1998.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 00:43:27 -0000 --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:33:53AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:15:48 -0600, Chad Perrin > wrote: > > I've seen Roundcube do this crap. It does *not* make me happy when > > trying to skim through emails quickly -- and it can be bad when > > reading more closely, too. >=20 > You're fully correct, it may not be the best solution for power users. My point is more that it's not the best solution for people whose emails might ever be read by "power users", or anyone else who, y'know, reads email discussions. > > In this case, an IMAP-capable *local* client program would be much > better. With local caching, you can also improve speed. And even > programs with good keyboard support are possible, even programs for use > in text mode do exist (a welcome solution for blind users). =2E . . like Mutt. Yeah, I know it. >=20 > Sadly, my dear customers wanted web mail, and they insisted on > RoundCube, so they got it. They're slow in thinkind and reading, slower > in typing, so the program speed is still too fast for them. That's all > the magic behind the story. :-) Well . . . I guess if someone demands a crappy program, you either give it to them or effectively convince them to get it from someone else. I just don't really think it's a great idea to bring up software that makes communication difficult without being prompted for it when giving suggestions for how people should do things. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk2ZEUMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWH8QCggdEHOoV8OnWJfIkCrkTE7sMA zIEAoITxUyqdcTHtsgdyEfz4XtuUidtw =liYC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 01:30:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426581065673 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74578FC14 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 01:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so2379107gxk.13 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:30:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=uN5lQhASoc/jX/phoHHUsH0FVbzNXVzuvQ3zzfvIPbg=; b=foTGMkpOezMicK30KYDfPry6qekJJ+ZiHzr46+pkiEIjwQWYaEGAAgghcazV+gf/wY suzMIYYVsJHozP2PMp2OoTyek3AlBQHqFvaTikiB5oqeM3NINwUzrhDLIqVvBPVD2p4j 8o2Plns2gv5fE4zy/gazt13RVnaa7Aghfle54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=hB43ejtDKu8a7pmWEJemYnnxsm09PDyuG05lOwLB6uvwVvOH4EigEokYxpEi8iXw3o Q2cLoC/6FwiEdQ93bGzKGruQAcLumiC80v2AlI6EftdGlGudIwGXKCH0jFj1KrL1P9cT qKprWJ4TdH4h0/GzfGHM5onRfBxol3E+LFp7I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.109.1 with SMTP id r1mr6501674yhg.37.1301879058491; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.146.167.17 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:04:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:04:18 -0700 Message-ID: From: Nerius Landys To: krad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Odhiambo Washington , questions@freebsd.org, kennethparit@gmail.com Subject: Re: DNS Administrator - Kenya X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 01:30:59 -0000 > alternatively try one of the torrents, it should survive disconnections far > better than ftp etc Yes, try the torrents. I don't seed them for nothing. This is probably one of the best ways to get FreeBSD. Here they are: http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 02:00:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB126106566B; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 02:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) Received: from esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca (esa-jnhn.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5178FC08; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 02:00:15 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEAIAlmU2DaFvO/2dsb2JhbACESKIJiHmnC48zgSiDTHcEjSM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,294,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="116949984" Received: from erie.cs.uoguelph.ca (HELO zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca) ([131.104.91.206]) by esa-jnhn-pri.mail.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2011 22:00:10 -0400 Received: from zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35740B3FB0; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:00:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Macklem To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <1011733876.2669273.1301882410156.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [172.17.91.202] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.10_GA_2692 (ZimbraWebClient - IE7 (Win)/6.0.10_GA_2692) Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfs error: No route to host when starting apache ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 02:00:16 -0000 > On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Rick Macklem wrote: > > >> Since rpc.lockd and rpc.statd expect to be able to do IP broadcast > >> (same goes for rpcbind), I suspect that might be a problem w.r.t. > >> jails, although I know nothing about how jails work? > >> > > Oh, and you can use the "nolock" mount option to avoid use of > > rpc.lockd and rpc.statd. > > based on the mount_nfs man page, as well as trying it just in case, > this > option no longer appears to be availalble in the 7.x nfs code ... :( > Oops, sorry. The option is called "nolockd". rick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 4 03:42:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A8B106566C for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 03:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Received: from pukruppa.de (pd95cabe3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.171.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DCB8FC1E for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 03:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p343R72F061278; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 05:27:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Received: from localhost (ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p343R7qg061275; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 05:27:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 05:27:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Eitan Adler