From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 12 19:33:40 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D00D10656A3 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE1C8FC15 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws20 with SMTP id 20so1116803vws.13 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:33:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.241.9 with SMTP id lc9mr771269qcb.112.1289590419165; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.16.199 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:33:38 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.113] In-Reply-To: <20101112200653.9929e115.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <201011100009.oAA09mfG024502@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20101112011934.GC35128@guilt.hydra> <20101112200653.9929e115.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:33:38 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:33:40 -0000 On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:06, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:21:51 -0800, Rob Farmer wrote: >> I'm not saying the CLI is universally bad - if you gain competence >> with a set of programs that you use frequently, it can be very >> efficient. It does make it hard to enter a new area, though - you've >> got to learn some before you can do anything. > > When entering WHICH field new to you this is different? > > Repeat after me: Computers. Are. Not. Easy. :-) None - but people don't feel like they are entering a new field. Everyone uses computers - public schools have spent massive amounts of money to start kids using computers at 5 or 6 years old, if they haven't already at home. So the discussion isn't framed as learning something new - its "why should we change the way everyone has been working for years?" To use a US example, you see the same thing with the SI/metric system. Scientists and other technical people use it almost universally without issue (except for some oddities, PSI is somewhat popular) - it is better for real/serious work, but the general public doesn't see it as new or valuable - its just a stupid change in the way everything has always been done. -- Rob Farmer