From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 4 22:10:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FD716A4DA for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from ketralnis.com (melchoir.ketralnis.com [68.183.67.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B748F43D5E for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:10:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Received: from [10.0.1.239] (ayla.wifi.int.ketralnis.com [10.0.1.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by ketralnis.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k84MAZr5000326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:10:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dking@ketralnis.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <3692C07B-CCCC-4756-9B33-6DA724481FF2@ketralnis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <560458E8-41A1-4F2F-B5BE-7B3EE3F4B113@ketralnis.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David King Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:10:31 -0700 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: Quiet computer X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:10:40 -0000 >>>> I am looking for a small computer that is silent or very quiet >>>> to sit >>>> in a home office. >>> I think you might want to wait a month or two until Intel Core 2 >>> "Conroe" and "Allendale" become more readily available. >> Indeed (less than a month later), a vendor called Shuttle just >> released this machine: > I wonder how much this thing costs... They are comparing it against > Mac mini on their own web-site, and as far as space, quietness, power > consumption and price are concerned, Mac mini is definitely a winner > among the two :) It runs at just over $1,000 (USD) for the one with the Core Duo. Yes, the Mac Mini does look to be a winner between the two, but I'd like to run FreeBSD natively instead of messing with Boot Camp. You see, instead of trying to hunt down a few years worth of configuration changes and make them all again in a new FreeBSD install, I'd like to move the hard drive right out of my current server into a new one, whereas if FreeBSD isn't running natively but instead requires Boot Camp, I can't do that, as Boot Camp requires a partition on the hard drive (and, to make it in the first place, a space-wasting install of OS X) >> They call it their X100 and it's just smaller than a cereal box. It >> has an Intel Core Duo in it. > That's not what I was talking about: X100 is based on Core Duo, not > Core Duo 2, which is the newest, latest, fastest and cheapest > processor available :) > You might as well want to wait until the new Mac mini now, rumours say > that it's about to be released quite soon: > http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0608macmini.html (2006-08-29) You're right, I stand corrected, it's a Core Duo, not a Core 2 Duo (dumbest name ever). > BTW, back to your question about FreeBSD on Mac mini, you probably > will not have any problems with booting FreeBSD on Mac mini, as it > seems to work with OpenBSD after some update by Apple: > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060817213709 Yes, but it runs within Boot Camp, instead of being booted directly from EFI, so it requires the aforementioned partition, keeping me from directly moving my hard drive.