From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 08:42:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6CA1065673 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:42:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tzhuan@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F348FC16 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tzhuan@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so797064fgb.35 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:42:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=RCCCaPhaM06bvoeTqAgnK1y4bP657nE8zJ8yfzx58Cw=; b=i259vrpj+aWdi501Ap46D0tCOGrECszdNua5vTjS6EgP9Y851QmLjyU/czcuC8QYad HcYbnJCj1RvUHoXugaecBcVsOYYouIOOig8TmkjnOZ2J3mceNzDFcGfftzrp+WFT2jug VvsGSsSm3w1o/ua6jzXBjlG/DxiGCJQgBQSKE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=h0sF+dllugvw+nXPcU/RqyL8BH9dq4iN1Ybc80cVorANLJlVPnjXYK0X5KQnDfcJcv C2KXgEiWTnMQZjWZJ3nzti9RKTqQCrbtCiUNStq6pS39PMSmssauKnGoEGN36yaWEWGb aPe85eJdyDCt/snO2HLY2sZvt7R1YYF4aTbKM= Received: by 10.86.60.14 with SMTP id i14mr2782135fga.75.1220085756177; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.3.2 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6a7033710808300142o1b253c6cw2e286d42a60e342b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:42:36 +0800 From: "Tz-Huan Huang" Sender: tzhuan@gmail.com To: "Alexander Churanov" In-Reply-To: <3cb459ed0808290636r5eb389c8y6d4aafae1b8001cf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3cb459ed0808250952j572dfc35j2feb852a73de5ace@mail.gmail.com> <200808281718.m7SHISGL067492@lurza.secnetix.de> <3cb459ed0808290636r5eb389c8y6d4aafae1b8001cf@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c3add5a31d54fd8c Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, olli@lurza.secnetix.de Subject: Re: Unicode-based FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:42:38 -0000 On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Alexander Churanov wrote: > 2008/8/28 Oliver Fromme >> >> Right now, a Chinese sysadmin cannot simply go to a FreeBSD >> console, run mutt and read mails from his co-workers that >> contain Chinese characters. This *does* work fine with >> Linux. This is clearly an area where FreeBSD is lacking. > > Tz-Huan, > Could you comment on this? Does Linux really display and render all Chinese > glyphs corectly? Do they have video card compatibility issues? How about > top-to-bottom rendering? Is it actually used or useful in China and Taiwan? Hi, As far as I known Linux's console really support Chinese by change the display to graphics mode through framebuffer[1]. It should be no video card compatibility issue if the video card supports VESA well (most cards support it well I think). How much Chinese glyphs it can render depends on the coverage of the bitmap fonts, so it should be possible to render all glyphs if the fonts are available. However, I have never used this feature in Linux. All linux systems I manage have either X (desktop) or just text-mode console (server) like FreeBSD. So I don't think this feature is very useful for me. The debian installer use this feature to support Chinese and other language interfaces, it might be useful for a newbie to install an unfamiliar OS. Besides that, there are less benefits to support this I think. IMHO your schedules looks fine to me. :-) Tz-Huan [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_framebuffer