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Date:      Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:55:14 -0500
From:      Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu>
To:        Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Usr Random <rand15616@yandex.ru>
Subject:   Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
Message-ID:  <20081213015514.GA47452@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
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On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 02:28:54AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:22:15 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
> >> There is _nothing_ that is inherently "server oriented" about the main
> >> FreeBSD tree, and it hasn't "split" to anything of the sort.
> >
> > exactly! FreeBSD is unix oriented!
> >
> > everything else depends on what you install.
> >
> > that's why it would be good to finally introduce moderation on that
> > list
> 
> That's a logical leap I am not comfortable with.
> 
> Back when I posted my first question here, some time during the summer
> of 1999, it seemed very nice that older FreeBSD users replied to my
> questions without chastising me for being "off topic".  It seems natural
> to return the favor now, and reply to *all* questions that I can help
> with; even if their relation to FreeBSD is very 'weak'.
> 
> The spirit of replying to all questions, even if they are similar to
> ``How do I process images with a Photoshop-like program on FreeBSD?'',
> or even ``Windows lets me use FOO and do BAR.  Is there something like
> this in FreeBSD?'', seems to be one of the *good* aspects of this list.
> 
> Why should we destroy that good aspect by introducing moderation?

A voice of wisdom!

But, we can _gently_ (it hasn't always been so gentle) teach
newbies that the list is meant for something higher than just
repeatedly ragging on why isn't FreeBSD more like MS or RHEL
or whatever.

Anyway, those example questions you used above are really FreeBSD 
questions of a sort, (even if kind of newbie-ish and maybe more 
rightfully belonging on a newbie list) and don't hurt anyone by
showing up on the questions list.

////jerry      

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