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Date:      Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:32:30 -0700
From:      Gary Kline <kline@tera.com>
To:        Nate <publisher@laptop.ompages.com>
Cc:        gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, debian-user@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject:   Re: FreeLinux (Debian/GNU BSD)
Message-ID:  <19990709093230.A22961@athena.tera.com>
In-Reply-To: <19990709091714.C973@laptop.ompages.com>; from Nate on Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 09:17:14AM -0700
References:  <199907091429.HAA25261@deal1.bogs.org> <19990709091714.C973@laptop.ompages.com>

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On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 09:17:14AM -0700, Nate wrote:
> GO AGS!
> 
> I'm a UCD alum.  Now I'm a law student in Sacramento.  Cool.
> 
> I'll be going to the Linux Users Group of Davis next Tuesday.
> 
> See http://www.lugod.org for time and place.
> 
> First off, if you are really interested in this project, you 
> should take a look at the mailing list archives at www.debian.org.
> 
> There was a pretty long thread a few months ago, where debian
> linux developers discussed incorporating the the FreeBSD kernel
> into the debian software distribution.
> 
> There is already Debian/GNU Linux, and Debian/GNU HURD.  I believe
> there may be people working on this now.  I for one, would welcome
> a debian distribution based on the freebsd kernel.
> 
> I've used both freebsd and debian linux and I see the following problems
> with each.
> 
> 1. FreeBSD's kernel kicks ass, but the ports system is not nearly
> as sophisticated as the debian .deb package format.
> 
> 2. Debian Linux's package format kicks ass, but the linux kernel
> is not nearly as stable as the freebsd kernel (IMHO).  If we could combine
> the .deb package format with the freebsd kernel, I do believe one would
> have absolutely the most stable, most versatile, most sophisticated
> operating system on the whole damn planet.  If you are a developer
> (I'm not so I've settled on debian, but I monitor freebsd's progress),
> I do not believe it would be too monumental of a task to port debian
> packages over to freebsd's kernel.  I would probably be a simple matter
> of recompiling the packages and altering a few debian .diff files. I would
> help if I had some guidance, (cause I have 5 computers so I have machines
> to compile on).  If you are interested, lets get something going. I live
> only 20 miles away from you and we could meet at lugod meetings.
> 
> I'm going to forward this message over to the debian lists...
> 
> Hope to hear from you soon.
> 
> nate
> 

		This all sounds great, uniting Debian and BSD 
		(FreeBSD, say) --- I ran Debian for several 
		months before putting FBSD on both my systems.

		The thing is: the organization and the effort
		(work!) required.  

		Anybody out there with a few thousand hours
		to spare?

		gary



> On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 07:29:31AM -0700, Greg Shenaut wrote:
> > I've not used Linux, but I've been told that there is considerable
> > difference among the several principal variants.  Once a bunch of
> > user software has been installed over the net, from the user's
> > point of view (and to some extent, the adminstrator's), is FreeBSD
> > more or less different from the Linux variants as they are from
> > each other?  And if the answer is that they are all pretty similar,
> > then perhaps a customized version of FreeBSD could be prepared that
> > emphasizes the similarities, distributed as FreeLinux or LinuxBSD.
> > (I'm thinking in terms of a FreeBSD kernel with a Linux API in
> > front, a reshuffled directory hierarchy, and several of the more
> > prominent Linux applications--sort of a Linux emulation on steroids.)
> > 
> > Why?  You ask, "Why?!"
> > 
> > I'm curious as to how many users would be attracted to a product
> > incorporating the "Linux" handle, plus greater out-of-the box Linux
> > compatibility, compared to more or less the same thing without it.
> > 
> > After all,
> >     What's in a name? That which we call a rose
> >     By any other name would smell as sweet.
> > 
> > -Greg Shenaut
> > 
> > 
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