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Date:      Mon, 18 May 1998 22:21:09 +0000
From:      "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com>
To:        "Jan B. Koum " <jkb@best.com>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why we should support Microsoft...
Message-ID:  <980518222109.ZM2318@darkstar.connect.com>
In-Reply-To: "Jan B. Koum " <jkb@best.com> "Re: Why we should support Microsoft..." (May 18,  1:45pm)
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980518134329.6603A-100000@shell6.ba.best.com>

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On May 18,  1:45pm, Jan B. Koum  wrote:
> Subject: Re: Why we should support Microsoft...
>
> 	Stop smoking crack. This is not about Bill Gates having too much
> money. This is about monopoly. Go read some history with the following
> keywords: Standard Oil, AT&T.
> 	Monopoly is bad for economy. Monopoly does not help the economy.
> Monopoly should be stopped.
>
> -- Yan
>

Right on bro!

Frank


> Jan Koum                  jkb@best.com |  "Turn up the lights; I don't want
> www.FreeBSD.org -- The Power to Serve  |   to go home in the dark."
>
> On Mon, 18 May 1998, Atipa wrote:
>
> >
> >
> ><Puts on flame-retardant asbestos suit>
> >
> >I know I am going out on a limbe here, but I do not think the Justice
> >Department should make any decisions on the software industry, and I think
> >Microsoft should be allowed to ship whatever the hell it wants.
> >
> >We are told that this is a free, capitalistic country, but now they want
> >to say it is just sort-of capitalistic? That you can make all the money
> >you want, until you make too much? What kind of crap is that?
> >
> >I belive in economic Darwinism; that is to say, good products flourish and
> >poor products wilt away. The consumer ultimately decides what sells and
> >what doesn't, and not the providers. If Win98 stinks, I hope it dies and
> >forces MS to make better products. But who am I to say what they should or
> >should not try to do?
> >
> >Adding insult to this whole situation are the demands of the US
> >Government. Now these are plain silly, and I applaud Bill Gates for
> >telling them where to go with their suggesions:
> >
> >	* That Microsoft disable their browser, and _all_available_means
> >	  of accessing it. This is _almost_ reasonable, but  I can
> >	  understand the common vision of PC's as extensions to the
> >	  Internet. To make a browser part of an OS seems like a really
> >	  cool idea to me. Now I do agree 100% that other browsers should
> >	  be able to operate in the new environment (eg, no MS booby traps
> >	  or proprietary mumbo jumbo to prevent competition)
> >
> >	* If MS does include a browser, they must also provide all
> >	  competing products as well. Can you say horse<dung>? That is
> >	  entirely ludicrous. To paraphrase Bill Gates, "It is like having
> >	  to include 2 cans of Pepsi in every Coke six pack." Amen.
> >	  As I said, take off the restrictions and let the best product
> >	  win. As consumers, _WE_ are the ones getting hosed in this
> >	  ordeal, not Microsoft.
> >
> >	* MS must modify their "Window Manager" so that OEMs and
> >	  competitors can customize their visual. How would all the
> >	  developers of FreeBSD feel if I took a FreeBSD release, changed
> >	  the GUI a bit, and called it AtipaOS? You would feel smited.
> >	  Also, the continuity of the UI is the only thing that makes
> >	  supporting this crap OS possible. If everyone had their own
> >	  interface, providers would have a bear of a time giving
> >	  accurate, detailed instructions.
> >
> >We must take a stand, and tell the Justice Deptartment to bugger off. They
> >do not understand the software industry, they are setting a horrible
> >precendent, and depriving the American people of free choice.
> >
> >They are ruining a good, competitive environment by degrading the efforts
> >of the front runner, instead of promoting the laggers. We are all losing
> >out.
> >
> >The issue to me is not whether or not Win98 is good or bad, the issue is
> >freedom. I support Bill Gates in this issue, and hope you will as well.
> >Hopefully, this product will fail all on its own, and open the doors to
> >good programmers all over the world, without US ecomonic intervention.
> >
> >I hope you all can see through this junk. Liberty must be preserved. Let
> >the best products win, and let MS die on its own two feet.
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >
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