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Date:      Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:17:06 +0100 (CET)
From:      Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
To:        Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
Cc:        Eduardo Cerejo <ejcerejo@optonline.net>, FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: KDE: What a monster!
Message-ID:  <20090128100117.X23975@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
In-Reply-To: <20090128042954.90cdb848.freebsd@edvax.de>
References:  <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090127234024.Q18824@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090128042954.90cdb848.freebsd@edvax.de>

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>
> I didn't know links had agraphics mode... time to checkt this
> out!

start with -g option, of course select X11 support on port config

>
>> well i have laserjet 4 and use ghostscript+lpr. can't help you.
>
> I still have a Laserjet 4 (my first printer), I got it as a
> present, never treated it kindly (printed VERY much), and it's
> still working. It's more than 15 years old now, mind this, or

that's why i bought it for ca 50$ USED, already had 86000 pages printed, 
and i printed about 35000.

All you have to do is to lubricate with oil some parts every half a year 
or so, when it starts to have problem with paper jamming.

i once printed 2500 pages at once - all i had to do was to put paper.

You can even swap toner cardridge on the fly.
There are polish-produced replacement cardridges that costs 35$ for 10000 
pages.

With this printer the highest cost is a paper ;)



> better, try this with a "consumer class" ink-pee "printer". :-)
>
it's crap don't use it.

> The LJ4000d (duplex) does automatically rotate the paper for
> every \newpage if setup this way (setup in the printer itself),
> so gs + lpr should work there, too. It can understand PCL and PS.
> Can you tell me how exactly you combine gs and lpr? Maybe I can

in /etc/printcap

lp|lokalna::sh:if=/etc/ifhp:lp=/dev/lpt0:df=/etc/hpdf:sd=/var/spool/output/lo:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:

your /etc/ifhp script should be a filter converting input to 
whatever your printer handles - PCL5 in my case i use ghostscript.

mine looks like this (sligtly modified example):
#!/bin/sh
#
#  ifhp - Print Ghostscript-simulated PostScript on a DesJet 500
#  Installed in /usr/local/libexec/hpif

#
#  Treat LF as CR+LF:
#
printf "\033&k2G" || exit 2

#
#  Read first two characters of the file
#
read first_line
first_two_chars=`expr "$first_line" : '\(..\)'`

if [ "$first_two_chars" = "%!" ]; then
     #
     #  It is PostScript; use Ghostscript to scan-convert and print it
     #
     /usr/local/bin/gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -q -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=- - \
         && exit 0

else
     #
     #  Plain text or HP/PCL, so just print it directly; print a form
     #  at the end to eject the last page.
     #
     echo "$first_line" && cat && printf "\f" && exit 0
fi

exit 2

>
>> simply use text mode irc clients like epic or BitchX.
>
> I liked the last one, but then switched to X-Chat 1 (with Gtk 1)
> which was very comfortable.

you have strange definition of comfort ;)

>>> to incorporate new mail (from /var/mail, I fetch separately
>>> via fetchmail) disables its whole GUI for several seconds,
>>
>> which is funny as every normal mail clients reads mailbox files directly.
>>
>> alpine reads maildir dirs directly, and i use maildir format (through
>> procmail).
>
> I don't have a mail server running on my home desktop, so I get

you don't have to use alpine. it access maildir files directly.

> messages through POP3 using fetchmail.

that's good.

>> look at port options. i installed mplayer recently, works fine.
>
> Is the Makefile.local mechanism still supported? Allthough I'm a
> big fan of pkg_add -r, mplayer has been one of the few things I
> always to compile (due to the options).

no idea all i did was to do make configure then make install

>>> Whenever I quit some programs (confirmed for: xmms, xzgv), the
>>
>> mpg123 is your friend. best ever mp3 player.
>
> I always thought madplay is better than mpg123. But I think it

i used mpg123 on 160Mhz 486 and it used ca 50% CPU at full quality.
i don't know any player that needs less CPU power.

>>> (I prefer my system to be english-only, with this particular
>>> piece of software as the only exception.)
>>
>> use LyX.
>
> Hm, I prefer to "code" LaTeX myself, but I found LyX to be a
> good tool to suggest to students who wanted to write a thesis
> that doesn't look like a piece of shit. :-)

so use latex :) personally i use both.

>>
>> ports/misc/mc-light
>
> Will try this, sounds promising. I tried to change the code in MC

definitely try this. it contains only those part of mc that are actually 
useful.

>> different programs to get your job done.
>>
>> i really prefer unix philosophy.
>
> Another part of this philosophy is that you can combine these tools,
> such as by the means of piping of temporary files, so in a "chain"
> of processing, if something goes wrong, you can inspect every piece
> in between.

indeed

>> it's really worth spending these few $ on windoze that case.
>
> Here in Germany, it's more convenient NOT to pay, but still to use.
> And "Why should I pay you to work on my computer?" :-)

that's wrong. You should pay or not use it.

You should fight software piracy. Not because it's bad, but because it's 
the best microsoft friend.
Without piracy microsoft wouldn't exist today at all.

>> much more.
>>
>> It's called AmigaOS.
>
> Oh my poor Amiga collection (A500, A600, A1200) cries for reviving! :-)

You have fully-working windowing system, OS, disk system, filesystem, 
microkernel etc. etc. with 512KB ROM and <100kB RAM running damn fast on 
few mips.

> The Amiga was the first usable PC bringing good graphics and stereo
> audio out of 12V low tension. :-)
>
> I read about the AROS project, looks interesting...
sadly but it's crap actually.

try
www.natami.net

>> As you see - people WANTED crap, that's why Amiga
>> doesn't really exist anymore for over 10 years.
>
> People want crap, they get crap. It's the same story in hardware. Well,

exactly. so let they get what they like, but stay away from it.


> you can actually pay lots of money for a brand name, but you get the
> same short-living stuff as you could get for a discount price.

since few years - it's true. That's for those who like "high-end" crap ;)

>> I don't think germany is different.
>
> Well yes, it's always "worst choice", you notice this right after
> the election.

definitely.

>
> "Democracy simulation". That's why less and less people go voting.

i don't vote since 4 years.



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