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Date:      Sun, 7 Jan 2018 04:13:33 -0800
From:      Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net>
To:        blubee blubeeme <gurenchan@gmail.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: USB stack
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[I add an example of a none-USB to USB2 copy and
a USB2 to non-USB copy. They do not show any
< 8 MiByte/s bottlenecks.]

On 2018-Jan-7, at 3:42 AM, Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net> wrote:

> [The other numbers show lots of delete activity on nvd0,
> not just primarily reads. Also: Can you test a different
> USB device, such as a USB SSD stick?]
>=20
> On 2018-Jan-7, at 2:44 AM, Mark Millard <markmi at dsl-only.net> =
wrote:
>=20
>> [The following notes a problem with how a test was done.
>> I omit the rest of the material.]
>>=20
>> On 2018-Jan-7, at 2:09 AM, blubee blubeeme <gurenchan at gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>=20
>> . . .
>>> This is a larger file, not the largest but hey
>>>=20
>>> L(q)  ops/s    r/s   kBps   ms/r    w/s   kBps   ms/w    d/s   kBps  =
 ms/d   %busy Name
>>>   0      4      0      0    0.0      2      8    0.0      0      0   =
 0.0    0.1| nvd0
>>>   0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0   =
 0.0    0.0| md99
>>> 128    982      1     32   58.8    981 125428  110.5      0      0   =
 0.0  100.0| da1
>> . . .
>>=20
>> Note that almost complete lack of kBps near r/s but the large
>> kBps near w/s.
>>=20
>> It appears that the file has been cached in RAM and is not
>> being read from media at all. So this test is of a RAM to
>> disk transfer, not disk to disk, as far as I can tell.
>>=20
>> You need to avoid re-reading the same file unless you
>> dismount and remount between tests or some such. Or
>> just use a different file not copied since booting (that
>> file may or may not be a previous copy of the same file
>> by content).
>>=20
>> See if you can get gstat -pd results that show both
>> read kBps and write kBps figures.
>=20
> Can you test another USB device, such as a USB SSD
> stick, sometime known to be reliably fast and not
> involving reading from the LG v30?
>=20
> =46rom what I read Android has many file systems supported
> or used at one time: ext4, f2fs, yaffs, yaffs2,
> vfat, msdos being in the list. Normal SD and SDHC files
> systems are FAT32 and SDXC is exFAT.
>=20
> So "Android 7.1" does not answer my question about which
> file system is actually on the usdcard being used. I'd
> guess FAT32 or exFAT, depending on SD/SDHC vs. SDXC, but
> I do not really know.
>=20
>=20
> My results show that getting above 8 MiBytes/s over
> USB 2.0 is supported for other than the rather low end
> of the FreeBSD range of systems. Beyond that is something
> more specific to your context and not involved in mine.
> The file system might be involved.
>=20
> So far, from the tables and what you have written, the
> LG v30 is required to be involved for the slowdown
> to sub 8 MiBytes/s. This is part of why I ask about
> testing an alternative USB device that is fast: it
> tests USB without involving the LG v30 or the usdcard.
>=20
> If USB ends up faster, then it is not USB's "stack" that
> is the primary source of the current bottleneck for your
> context: something else is also involved, such as the
> file system may be.
>=20
> Can you show gstat -pd output for copying from the
> LG v30? Copying to the 1TB USB backup device? The
> %busy figures might be interesting.
>=20
>=20
> In your other table:
>=20
> This is an example copying [multiple small files] to the 1TB drive.
> =
--------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------------------------------
> L(q)  ops/s    r/s   kBps   ms/r    w/s   kBps   ms/w    d/s   kBps   =
ms/d   %busy Name
>    0    547    290  35239    2.0      4     16   73.1    249  44291   =
93.7   48.8| nvd0
>    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| md99
>   21    333      0      0    0.0    333  36040   16.2      0      0    =
0.0   76.2| da1
> =
--------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------------------------------
>=20
> This shows lots of deletes per second for some reason.
>=20
> Did you move instead of copy? After each file was copied,
> was it then deleted?
>=20
> It is possible that the deletes slowed this down,
> whatever they were from.


Here are "gstat -pd" samples from during a:

cp -ax /usr/src /media/root/srccpy_test
(which is to USB2 from non-USB.)

dT: 1.071s  w: 1.000s
 L(q)  ops/s    r/s   kBps   ms/r    w/s   kBps   ms/w    d/s   kBps   =
ms/d   %busy Name
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| fd0
    0   2346   2346  20234    0.1      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0   11.9| da0
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da1
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da2
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da3
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| cd0
 1162   1375     21    658   60.1   1354  26962  331.4      0      0    =
0.0   81.1| da4

dT: 1.069s  w: 1.000s
 L(q)  ops/s    r/s   kBps   ms/r    w/s   kBps   ms/w    d/s   kBps   =
ms/d   %busy Name
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| fd0
    0    859    859   7657    0.1      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    4.8| da0
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da1
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da2
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da3
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| cd0
  841   1544      7    240    5.3   1536  31956  261.7      0      0    =
0.0   93.0| da4

dT: 1.070s  w: 1.000s
 L(q)  ops/s    r/s   kBps   ms/r    w/s   kBps   ms/w    d/s   kBps   =
ms/d   %busy Name
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| fd0
    0   1709   1709  15074    0.1      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    9.3| da0
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da1
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da2
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da3
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| cd0
 1257   1423     15    479   43.9   1408  31011  277.5      0      0    =
0.0   91.9| da4

dT: 1.070s  w: 1.000s
 L(q)  ops/s    r/s   kBps   ms/r    w/s   kBps   ms/w    d/s   kBps   =
ms/d   %busy Name
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| fd0
    0   4350   4350  44982    0.1      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0   22.0| da0
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da1
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da2
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da3
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| cd0
  943   1028     27    867    5.0   1001  19315  614.8      0      0    =
0.0   59.8| da4



Here are "gstat -pd" samples from during a:

cp -ax /media/usr/src /root/srccpy_test
(which is to non-USB from USB2.)

dT: 1.069s  w: 1.000s
 L(q)  ops/s    r/s   kBps   ms/r    w/s   kBps   ms/w    d/s   kBps   =
ms/d   %busy Name
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| fd0
    0    306      0      0    0.0    306  38383    0.3      0      0    =
0.0    2.6| da0
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da1
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da2
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da3
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| cd0
    1    548    548  37533   52.7      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0  100.2| da4

dT: 1.070s  w: 1.000s
 L(q)  ops/s    r/s   kBps   ms/r    w/s   kBps   ms/w    d/s   kBps   =
ms/d   %busy Name
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| fd0
    0    934      7    209    0.1    927  12438    2.2      0      0    =
0.0    1.5| da0
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da1
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da2
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da3
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| cd0
    1   1296   1296  20674    0.7      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0   90.1| da4

dT: 1.070s  w: 1.000s
 L(q)  ops/s    r/s   kBps   ms/r    w/s   kBps   ms/w    d/s   kBps   =
ms/d   %busy Name
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| fd0
    0   1208      5    150    0.1   1203  32069    2.3      0      0    =
0.0    2.2| da0
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da1
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da2
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| da3
    0      0      0      0    0.0      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0    0.0| cd0
    1    931    931  27073    6.9      0      0    0.0      0      0    =
0.0   93.6| da4


No bottlenecks causing < 8 MiBytes/s: much faster then that.
USB2 is not such a bottleneck in my context.

But, again, all UFS and the USB SSD stick is the slower
device but is, in turn, limited by USB2 in these.

=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
markmi at dsl-only.net







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