From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Jan 27 18:48:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AF337B401 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from web13401.mail.yahoo.com (web13401.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C68943F75 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 18:48:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from giffunip@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030128024848.99313.qmail@web13401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.24.79.211] by web13401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 03:48:48 CET Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 03:48:48 +0100 (CET) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Pedro=20F.=20Giffuni?=" Subject: Re: comments/suggestions on the ports system To: Pete Fritchman Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20030127184931.GA82213@absolutbsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Pete Fritchman ha scritto: > > Not quite sure what you mean here. > Try doing a DOS installation on a computer that is not hooked to the net and you'll understand. FWIW I had NO other option: my CDROM isn't very reliable so I had to use a laptop with ms-windows to transfer the distribution files. > | 2) I like it that we now install XFree86 from the > | package, but unfortunately the package is not > fully > | integrated and configuring it causes pain (the > | configure utility expects to write > /etc/X11/XF86Config > | or /usr/X11/etc/XF86Config and these directories > don't > | exist). I concluded the best solution for this > would > | be to set X11BASE=/usr/X11/ by default in the > ports > | tree: changing all the ocurrences of this to > | /usr/X11R6 would be a nonsense and besides the > ports > | tree should be perfectly prepared for this type of > | change. > > According to /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist, /etc/X11 is > there by default (and > that's the behavior I have noticed). > I'm not saying you lie, but the configure script couldn't generate that file until I created that directory. Does it really have to be called /usr/X11R6 instead /usr/X11 anyways? It's not like there is an X11R5 or X11R4 available somewhere. > CVSup is split up like that already; see > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile for details. > Another reason to divide it in packages. I haven't connected the BSD box to the internet yet so cvsup is not an option. Ever heard of winmodems?? for now I just transfer the files using the Windows partition and I've done lot's of ports like that. In order to install port support in my system (without installing ALL the ports) I type CTRL-C in the middle of the ports extraction. I don't have the disk space or patience to wait for all ports to extract. > | 4) KDE, GNOME and the related Qt and GTK apps have > | grown a lot should be in a different CD, giving > the > | priority in the first CD for console applications. > | mtools should always be in the first CD. > > I don't think the focus needs to be shifted to > "console" or "X" > applications one way or the other, just the most > popular ones. I would > guess a large majority of our desktop users find it > really convenient to > have their preferred desktop environment on the > first CD. > It's only me, but I'd prefer to be able to install all the KDE or GNOME applications I want without having to look for certain packages on a different CD (finding which is another problem). KDE and GNOME don't fit on the first CD .. That said I think I'll be switching to a DVD as soon as I can. OK... I admit my requirements are strange, but I think a newbie to FreeBSD will apreciate not having to do the things I do to install FreeBSD. cheers, Pedro. ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message