From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 0: 1:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13407.mail.yahoo.com (web13407.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9293137B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010415070123.28931.qmail@web13407.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.191.184.24] by web13407.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:01:23 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:01:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould Subject: Re: I am having "StartX" screen problems in KDE, please respond ASAP To: Michael , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <000a01c0c561$8bf0fd60$bfb2b218@bchgrv1.in.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sounds like X Window is only configured for 640x480. Have you tried running XF86Setup, ensuring that you specify a more appropriate desktop size. I hope this helps, Andrew Gould --- Michael wrote: > I have a GateWay Solo 5300 laptop, which I have > installed FreeBSD Desktop Edition on. Everything > seems to work just fine, except when I type startx, > and attempt to go into my KDE desktop screen. > > I can only see about 1/2 of the screen, it is almost > as if the screen is zoomed into one corner, I have > tried using Alt + Ctrl + -, but that doesn't seem to > work, and I have tried a few things with XF86, but > the monitor options don't seem to have an effect on > it either, I am leaving for vacation soon, So I > would VERY much appericiate it if you could respond > to this asap. > > Thank You > Michael Faulkner > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 0:35:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBAE37B43E for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:35:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3F7Z8k26815; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:35:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mark Drayton" , Subject: RE: about bgp4+ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:35:08 -0700 Message-ID: <001701c0c57e$98ed17c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <20010414161253.A20814@tethys.valhalla.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd be interested to find out how many exchange points that are using UNIX for Internet routing are running zebra instead of gated. Most people are running some form of Cisco IOS and there's only a few hardy souls still using UNIX for internetwork routers (although there probably would be more if the few DS3 cards that are out there had some more mileage on their drivers) Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mark Drayton >Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 8:13 AM >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: about bgp4+ > > >Ted Mittelstaedt (tedm@toybox.placo.com) wrote: >> the gated port supports bgp4 > >As does GNU zebra (also in ports). > >-- > >Mark Drayton > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 0:44: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D1037B43E for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:44:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3F7i0k26831; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:44:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Linh Pham" Cc: "Jon Rust" , Subject: RE: BIND denied update logging Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:44:00 -0700 Message-ID: <001c01c0c57f$d591e240$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The problem is that if dyDNS was really only intended to be used internally, they could have redesigned a better protocol than DNS to do it. (and, no WINS is not it) We are kind of in a protocol enhancement fad, anyway. TCP/IP was originally designed expressly for adding new protocols (this is what the port assignments are all about) for each different application. And, for many years people did just that. However, today the fad is to stack all new applications onto existing protocols, no matter how well designed the old protocol is for the new application. Undoubtedly, in another 10 years the pendulum will have swung the other direction and we will be back to seeing new protocols for new applications. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Linh Pham >Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 8:01 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Jon Rust; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: RE: BIND denied update logging > > >On 2001-04-14, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: > ># Do't bomb Redmond - dyDNS was an IETF baby before MS decided ># to use it. Frankly it's completely stupid because by the time ># that the changed DNS record propagates to the rest of the ># Internet, the dynamic system has finished it's session and disconnected. > >DyDNS is a better than Microsoft's cruddy WINS name resolution in that >you can use any operating system that supports registering the machine's >hostname and domain name. Also, DyDNS is required (as well as a >subdomain called `_msadc.') to use Microosft' Active Directory. > ># (Whenever I point that out to dyDNS people, they tell me that ># dyDNS is only supposed to be used for internal DNS only - of course ># this is usually after 5 minutes of listening to them expound on the ># virtues of dyDNS for the Internet) > >I do think that DyDNS should only be used internally (why else would one >really need it? I can see dial-up people wanting to use it, but I don't >think ISPs want to deal with that!). You also don't want DyDNS requests, >ack messages, and other related packets to be set through the public >Internet anyways :) > >-- >Linh Pham >[lplist@closedsrc.org] > >// 404b - Brain not found > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 2: 0:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E096337B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 02:00:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3F901433123; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:00:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:00:01 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: Alessandro de Manzano Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AGP module ? Message-ID: <20010415110001.B32605@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <20010414223049.B42900@libero.sunshine.ale> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010414223049.B42900@libero.sunshine.ale>; from ale@unixmania.net on Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 10:30:49PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 10:30:49PM +0200, Alessandro de Manzano wrote: > I'm here again trying to finally using XFree-4.0.3 with my Matrox G450 > :) > (on a 4.3RC system) > > Besides "make install"ing its port, I heard something related to an > "AGP module" to kload before starting X... but I've not found any such > named module reference in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > I found an "agp.ko" in /modules, but I'm not sure how/when/if I had to > load it. > (and "man agp" gives nothing) > > Does it is needed in order to run XFree 4.0.3 with matrox DRI HAL ? > > Could someone, please, tell me the correct sequence of things to do ? > :-) You need to do this: # cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 (1) # make WITH_MATROX_GXX_DRIVER=yes install # kldload agp # kldload mga (1) or use /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server And then make sure you have the following lines in XF86Config, in your "Module" section: Load "glx" Load "dri" I *think* that's all - look for the lines in /var/log/XFree86.0.log that say something like this: (0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler (0): [DRI] installation complete (II) MGA(0): direct rendering enabled You can also use /usr/X11R6/bin/glxinfo to get more information on GL capabilities supported by the display. If you always want to load the kernel modules on bootup, you can add them to /boot/loader.conf(5). HTH, --Stijn -- "I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 2:10: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bne004se.server-mail.com (bne004se.server-mail.com [203.147.241.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 093CF37B424 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 02:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malones@powerup.com.au) Received: (qmail 14318 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2001 09:09:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO default) (203.147.169.159) by smtp.bne.server-mail.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2001 09:09:54 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c0c58b$dd9db480$9fa993cb@default> From: "malones" To: Subject: Installing from ATAPI CD-ROM Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:10:04 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0C5DF.AD5B6200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0C5DF.AD5B6200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear FreeBSD: I am currently trying to install Free BSD from a Walnut Creek CD, dated = June 1999, which came with the book "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey = which I have recently purchased. My Bios supports booting from CD and I have tried both this and making a = boot floppy-set, but get the same result each time - when I select = CD-ROM as the installation medium, I get the "No CD-ROM device found" = error. I have a Sony CDU-4811 CD-ROM running on the second IDE port on = the motherboard. I have a GA-586T2 motherboard with a pentium MMX-166 = with 128MB of RAM. It has 2-channel ultra DMA/33 enhanced IDE on board = using IRQ 14 & 15, and supports mode 3, 4 IDE and ATAPI CD-ROM (taken = straight from the motherboard user manual, as you may have guessed). I don't think I can install from any other medium as I am sharing the = hard drive with an NT 4.0 partition (NTFS not FAT) and it is a = standalone PC (no network). I tried making a DOS partition and copying = the install CD, and this gave an error and failed (I guess because it is = not the primary microsoft partition). =20 Is there something I need to change in the kernel configuration or a new = driver to support the Sony CD-ROM? Any help you can provide will be = graciously accepted as I desperately want to install BSD as soon as = possible. Cheers, Michael Malone ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0C5DF.AD5B6200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear FreeBSD:
 
I am currently trying to install Free = BSD from a=20 Walnut Creek CD, dated June 1999, which came with the book "The Complete = FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey which I have recently purchased.
 
My Bios supports booting from CD and I = have tried=20 both this and making a boot floppy-set, but get the same result each = time - when=20 I select CD-ROM as the installation medium, I get the "No CD-ROM device = found"=20 error.  I have a Sony CDU-4811 CD-ROM running on the second IDE = port on the=20 motherboard.  I have a GA-586T2 motherboard with a pentium MMX-166 = with=20 128MB of RAM.  It has 2-channel ultra DMA/33 enhanced IDE on board = using=20 IRQ 14 & 15, and supports mode 3, 4 IDE and ATAPI CD-ROM (taken = straight=20 from the motherboard user manual, as you may have guessed).
 
I don't think I can install from any = other medium=20 as I am sharing the hard drive with an NT 4.0 partition (NTFS not = FAT)=20 and it is a standalone PC (no network).  I tried making a DOS = partition and=20 copying the install CD, and this gave an error and failed (I guess = because it is=20 not the primary microsoft partition). 
 
Is there something I need to change in = the kernel=20 configuration or a new driver to support the Sony CD-ROM?  Any help = you can=20 provide will be graciously accepted as I desperately want to install BSD = as soon=20 as possible.
 
Cheers,
Michael=20 Malone
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0C5DF.AD5B6200-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 3:10:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from out-mx1.crosswinds.net (out-mx1.crosswinds.net [209.208.163.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AF337B505 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 03:10:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wernergill@crosswinds.net) Received: from member-mx1.crosswinds.net (member-mx1.crosswinds.net [209.208.163.43]) by out-mx1.crosswinds.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3B75D4F7 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 06:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crosswinds.net (pta-dial-196-31-187-162.mweb.co.za [196.31.187.162]) by member-mx1.crosswinds.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4F94CB99 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 06:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3AD97520.F1305E6A@crosswinds.net> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:17:05 +0200 From: Charlie Root Reply-To: wernergill@crosswinds.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-questions To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 3:17:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13705.mail.yahoo.com (web13705.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D4B237B424 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 03:17:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd_ports@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010415101735.57564.qmail@web13705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.155.77.66] by web13705.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 03:17:35 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 03:17:35 -0700 (PDT) From: jayy sbastian Subject: I want to update kernel To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010414203418.A48687@databits.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, i want to update kernel and ports (FreeBSD 4.2). this is my /etc/cvsupfile : *default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-sys *default tag=. ports-all And run cvsup : /usr/local/bin/cvsup -g -L 2 -z /etc/cvsupfile is this right?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 3:23:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F230A37B42C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 03:23:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ED7DE66DA4; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 03:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 03:23:08 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: jayy sbastian Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I want to update kernel Message-ID: <20010415032308.A25372@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010414203418.A48687@databits.net> <20010415101735.57564.qmail@web13705.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010415101735.57564.qmail@web13705.mail.yahoo.com>; from bsd_ports@yahoo.com on Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 03:17:35AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 03:17:35AM -0700, jayy sbastian wrote: > hi, i want to update kernel and ports (FreeBSD 4.2). >=20 > this is my /etc/cvsupfile : >=20 > *default host=3Dcvsup.FreeBSD.org > *default base=3D/usr > *default prefix=3D/usr > *default release=3Dcvs > *default tag=3DRELENG_4 > *default delete use-rel-suffix >=20 > src-sys > *default tag=3D. > ports-all >=20 >=20 > And run cvsup : >=20 > /usr/local/bin/cvsup -g -L 2 -z /etc/cvsupfile >=20 >=20 >=20 > is this right?? You can't update your kernel separately from the rest of the /usr/src code: you have to update both and do a full rebuild as described in the handbook. Well, you can update just the kernel, but some things won't work very well :-) Kris --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE62XaLWry0BWjoQKURApMlAJ9Firloh5V2tMgA3I2xFvIKVpqy6ACdFO2F dq4AQ7gndaRj1YpkVY7o/gE= =pqMq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 3:42:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tethys.valhalla.net (tethys.valhalla.net [195.26.32.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB35537B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 03:42:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@tethys.valhalla.net) Received: by tethys.valhalla.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id 212B832E80; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:42:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:42:29 +0100 From: Mark Drayton To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: about bgp4+ Message-ID: <20010415114229.A3541@tethys.valhalla.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010414161253.A20814@tethys.valhalla.net> <001701c0c57e$98ed17c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001701c0c57e$98ed17c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>; from tedm@toybox.placo.com on Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 12:35:08AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Mittelstaedt (tedm@toybox.placo.com) wrote: > I'd be interested to find out how many exchange points that > are using UNIX for Internet routing are running zebra instead > of gated. Most people are running some form of Cisco IOS and > there's only a few hardy souls still using UNIX for internetwork > routers (although there probably would be more if the few DS3 > cards that are out there had some more mileage on their drivers) We're using it internally for some simple OSPF. I'd have used gated if I could have found a version you didn't have to pay for for Linux. -- Mark Drayton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 4:29: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA33937B443 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 04:28:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3FBStk27519; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 04:28:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mark Drayton" , Subject: RE: about bgp4+ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 04:28:55 -0700 Message-ID: <001d01c0c59f$4132e3e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <20010415114229.A3541@tethys.valhalla.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Your acting on antiquidated information. The public version of gated which supports OSPF may be used without fee. NextHop changed the licensing when Merit gave it up. There are 6 versions of gated floating around: oldest - this is the last UMich release, (maybe version 3.2?) BSD-style license. RSD, release - a fork of this release, at ftp://ftp.isi.edu/ra/RSd/rsd-1.3.tar.gz carrying the same license, this introduced the RSD stuff which was folded back into the main gated release later on. The "Merit" public releases, last was 3.5.11, this carried a convoluted license which permitted use of gated internally, except for "service providers" (whatever, I think they were attempting to stick the ISP's for a fee) The Merit commercial releases, which are supersets of the public releases (and carry many useful BGPisms) and which ended with 3.6 The NextHop public releases which start with 3.6 Public and carry a GNU-like license (basically, you can do what you want with the public code but the second you modify it, you must give all mods to NextHop) The NextHop commercial releases. The 3.6 "Public" Gated code can be had by going to http://www.gated.org, and filling out the webpage request for it (click on the Public Code link) The license is right there, there is no fee mentioned. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mark Drayton >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 3:42 AM >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: about bgp4+ > > >Ted Mittelstaedt (tedm@toybox.placo.com) wrote: >> I'd be interested to find out how many exchange points that >> are using UNIX for Internet routing are running zebra instead >> of gated. Most people are running some form of Cisco IOS and >> there's only a few hardy souls still using UNIX for internetwork >> routers (although there probably would be more if the few DS3 >> cards that are out there had some more mileage on their drivers) > >We're using it internally for some simple OSPF. I'd have used gated if I >could have found a version you didn't have to pay for for Linux. > >-- > >Mark Drayton > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 5:33: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe19.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC4D37B422 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 05:33:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from a_hasan1@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 05:33:04 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [213.238.128.132] From: =?windows-1254?Q?Abd=FClkerim_Hasan?= To: Subject: why does BSD use so much cpu ? Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:32:28 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0C5C1.47AAA6A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2001 12:33:04.0460 (UTC) FILETIME=[379D30C0:01C0C5A8] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0C5C1.47AAA6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1254" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use FreeBSD4.2 stable and only works squid(2.3) proxy on it.When squid = is used by clients BSD uses %40-60 cpu(s) (Certainly this value changes = according to use)=20 My machine has multi processor, 512 Mbytes ram How can I reduce cpu usage ?=20 will it be problem the server working like this ?=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0C5C1.47AAA6A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1254" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use FreeBSD4.2 stable and only works = squid(2.3)=20 proxy on it.When squid is used by clients  BSD uses = %40-60 cpu(s)=20 (Certainly this value changes according to use) 
 
My machine has multi processor, 512 = Mbytes=20 ram
 
How can  I reduce cpu usage ? =
 
will it be problem the server = working like=20 this ? 
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0C5C1.47AAA6A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 6:11:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C7137B443 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 06:11:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wa5qjh@xmission.com) Received: from wa5qjh.users.xmission.com ([204.228.152.42] helo=xmission.com) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14omJD-0002TA-00; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 07:11:19 -0600 Message-ID: <3AD9A2B3.42A5852F@xmission.com> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 07:31:31 -0600 From: "Gary B. Corell" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, wa5qjh@xmission.com Subject: recompiling the kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sirs: Not since 2.2.? have I been able to install the /usr/src tree,do the four or five steps and recompile the kernel from the src tree that comes on the CD. I don't have much to add to my kernel but I do need to recompile it. For instance I want USER_LDT so I can try to put WINE on the air. My most recent attempt was with FreeBSD 4.1 and in the course of recompiling ( which went a very long way thru bfore erroring out) I got "ERROR CODE 1". when I went searching for the meaning of that error code I couldn't find it either. All this is making me feel terribly stupid ( Don't say it :). is there anybody out there that can help me? is there anybody in the Salt Lake City to Ogden area that I might call to get me restarted? Anybody in the Western US? When I get all those errors, what do I need to do to "clean house" for the next try? I've learned the hard way that is essential too. I have a long copy of the display of the entire compile process if needed. In Short, my installation is off the 4.1 CD complete with the sources distribution I told it "All". Actually I have gone back, rm -dP /src from the /usr directory, then from /stand/sysinstall went back and reloaded the source distribution "ALL". but no joy. it still errored out somewhere near the end. i used the instructions from the handbook for versions after 4.0. PLEASE !! If someone can help, please answer directly to me at wa5qjh@xmission.com rather that some other forum. Thanks for anyones' help. I really need it!!! Gary Corell wa5qjh2xmission.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 7: 8:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cbs.udm.ru (cbs.udm.ru [195.161.198.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A591137B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 07:08:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@cbs.udm.ru) Received: from cbs.udm.ru ([192.168.91.3]) by cbs.udm.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA47229 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:07:43 +0500 (SAMST) Message-ID: <3AD9098A.60257ABB@cbs.udm.ru> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:38:02 +0900 From: Dmitriy Pushkarev Organization: CBS-COnsulting X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RC1 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing ports via passworded proxy server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At the place I work, we have only one Real IP adress at the server with FreeBSD 3.4. And about 5 computes running FreeBSD 4.2-RC1. Installing programms on server is easy - just make install. But with other we have to download package from ftp and place it to distfiles. It's annoying :-( Could we install ports via passworded proxy server? I.e. i want teach port-installer to get files via passwd proxy... --- Dmitriy Pushkarev 2:5050/113@Fidonet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 7:13:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wondermutt.net (host75-157.student.udel.edu [128.175.75.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B38537B496 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 07:13:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from papalia@udel.edu) Received: from morgaine.udel.edu (morgaine.wondermutt.net [192.168.1.2]) by wondermutt.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3FEEWV07851 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:14:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from papalia@udel.edu) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010415100523.00adb1f0@mail.udel.edu> X-Sender: papalia@mail.udel.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:11:12 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: John Subject: Trouble building ports Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all... I've encountered a problem which I'm having trouble getting worked out. Prior to my last world build (going to 4.3), I had no trouble building ports. The problems are occuring though in any port which contains either exactly the following text, or a similar entry. These entries are from the /usr/ports/???/scripts/configure files. The trouble is that ALL of these ports are exiting code 1 with the "Cancel Pressed" error. I was thinking it might be a permissions problem, but I've checked my /tmp and /var/tmp are both drwxrwxrwt. I've also tried building as root, and as a user su'd to root. Any thoughts? The bits of the configure file are below... Thanks, John 2> /tmp/checklist.tmp.$$ retval=$? choice=`cat /tmp/checklist.tmp.$$` rm -f /tmp/checklist.tmp.$$ case $retval in 0) if [ -z "$choice" ]; then echo "Nothing selected" exit 1; fi ;; 1) echo "Cancel pressed." exit 1 ;; esac To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 7:44:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f175.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FD337B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 07:44:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from acojocaru@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 07:44:26 -0700 Received: from 216.126.10.210 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:44:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.126.10.210] From: "Andrei Cojocaru" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: IPFW Rules (Port Forwarding) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 08:44:26 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2001 14:44:26.0590 (UTC) FILETIME=[91BAC7E0:01C0C5BA] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to forward all packets destined to 216.126.10.210:80 (outside IP of multi-homed host) to 192.168.0.4:80 this is the IPFW rule I made: ipfw add 30 fwd192.168.0.4,80 tcp from any to 216.126.10.210 80 but I get an error when I try to add it I get this error: ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument I've read the documentation multiple times and cannot find anything wrong. Any ideas? Thanks for your help in advance. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 7:50:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f121.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536E737B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 07:50:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from acojocaru@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 07:50:34 -0700 Received: from 216.126.10.210 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:50:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.126.10.210] From: "Andrei Cojocaru" To: bartequi@neomedia.it Cc: kstewart@urx.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linking Kernel Fails Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 08:50:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2001 14:50:34.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[6CDE2D30:01C0C5BB] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yap thanks I uncommented the scbus support and it compiled fine and I've learnt one new thing, not to compile the kernel on a 486, compile it on another computer first then move it onto it, unless you have lots of time :) hehe Again, thanks for your help. >From: Salvo Bartolotta >To: Kent Stewart >CC: Andrei Cojocaru , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Linking Kernel Fails >Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:28:50 +0200 (CEST) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: 62.98.170.236 >Received: from [195.103.207.6] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBCA1EFF600C24004379EC367CF060D680; Sat Apr 14 12:28:55 2001 >Received: (from httpd@localhost)by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.10.1/8.10.1) id >f3EJSpX04143;Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:28:51 +0200 (CEST) >From bartequi@neomedia.it Sat Apr 14 12:28:59 2001 >Message-ID: <987276530.3ad8a4f2ca92a@webmail.neomedia.it> >User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs >X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. > > > There is a favorite miss called "umass" on the USB bus. That seems to >get >many people. > > >Yup. I recall seeing a few messages of this kind in the past. Hmm, >actually, I >answered a question of this kind :-) > > > >BTW, this is part of my workstation kernel config: > ># SCSI Controllers >device > ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices >options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO # Allow memory-mapped I/O > ># SCSI peripherals >device > scbus # SCSI bus (required) >device > da # Direct Access (disks) >device > sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) >device > cd # CD >device > pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) > ># USB support -- everything commented out. ># No USB peripherals yet. > > > >I have seen no linking/whatever errors, though. > >Andrei's problem is probably (?) connected with the missing SCSI support. >Or... >I am missing something else :-) > >-- Salvo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 8: 6:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from istar.ca (d141-119-162.home.cgocable.net [24.141.119.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B25437B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 08:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) Received: (from genisis@localhost) by istar.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3FF9qL15152; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:09:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from genisis) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:09:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru To: Andrei Cojocaru Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW Rules (Port Forwarding) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did you remember to include the IPFIREWALL_FORWARD option in your kernel? Dru On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Andrei Cojocaru wrote: > I am trying to forward all packets destined to 216.126.10.210:80 (outside IP > of multi-homed host) to 192.168.0.4:80 > > this is the IPFW rule I made: > > ipfw add 30 fwd192.168.0.4,80 tcp from any to 216.126.10.210 80 > > but I get an error when I try to add it I get this error: > ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument > > I've read the documentation multiple times and cannot find anything wrong. > Any ideas? > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 8:16: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from deep.trance.org (deep.trance.org [194.134.1.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455F737B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 08:15:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from niels@bakker.net) Received: by deep.trance.org (Postfix, from userid 910) id 47C7F1150E; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:15:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:15:58 +0200 From: Niels Bakker To: Kris Kennaway Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND in 4.2S keeps dying, probably during heavy portscans Message-ID: <20010415171558.Y76393@trance.org> References: <20010413040411.R76393@trance.org> <20010414025629.C861@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010414182501.V76393@trance.org> <20010414113115.B82380@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010414113115.B82380@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 11:31:15AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, * kris@obsecurity.org (Kris Kennaway) [Sat 14 Apr 2001, 20:31 CEST]: >> Apr 12 21:25:04 trance named[28101]: /usr/src/lib/libbind/../../contrib/bind/lib/isc/ev_timers.c:114: INSIST(now.tv_usec >= 0 && now.tv_usec < 1000000) failed. > You've got clock skew which is confusing BIND. Could be, although I have ntpd running... weird. Thanks for the answer! I'll look into possible solutions. By the way, throwing "clock skew" into the mailing list archive search engine at www.freebsd.org doesn't yield anything relating to BIND dying, or anything even remotely related Regards, -- Niels. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 9:17:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEE837B42C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:17:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from suleyman@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (suleyman@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3FGHla01017 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:17:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Seggerman To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Buildworld Fails In-Reply-To: <20010414123511.A45515@everest.wananchi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I am getting a little problem while doing buildworld......even after a > Make buildworld... > [snip] > ic -o mount_nfs mount_nfs.o getmntopts.o mounttab.o > mount_nfs.o: In function `main': > mount_nfs.o(.text+0x90e): undefined reference to `nfssvc' > *** Error code 1 I got the same thing. Then I deleted everything in /usr/src, did a fresh CVSUP and now I get: make buildworld ...snip... cc -O -pipe -pthread -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cpio -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cpio/../../../contrib/cpio -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_SYS_MTIO_H=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_UTIME_H=1 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_VPRINTF=1 -DDIRENT=1 -DHAVE_LCHOWN -DHAVE_SYS_PARAM_H=1 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cpio/../../../contrib/cpio/stripslash.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cpio/../../../contrib/cpio/stripslash.c:44: output pipe has been closed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cpio. *** Error code 1 I am using cvs tag=RELENG_4 Which worked before sevaral times. I would be grateful for any suggestions. Ken Seggerman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 9:48:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5498437B42C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:48:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A0C84E401B0; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:48:08 -0700 Message-ID: <3AD9D0C8.E19A8B71@urx.com> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:48:08 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Seggerman Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Buildworld Fails References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ken Seggerman wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > I am getting a little problem while doing buildworld......even after a > > Make buildworld... > > [snip] > > ic -o mount_nfs mount_nfs.o getmntopts.o mounttab.o > > mount_nfs.o: In function `main': > > mount_nfs.o(.text+0x90e): undefined reference to `nfssvc' > > *** Error code 1 > > I got the same thing. Then I deleted everything in /usr/src, did a fresh > CVSUP and now I get: > > make buildworld > ...snip... > cc -O -pipe -pthread -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cpio > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cpio/../../../contrib/cpio -DRETSIGTYPE=void > -DHAVE_SYS_MTIO_H=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 > -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_UTIME_H=1 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_VPRINTF=1 > -DDIRENT=1 -DHAVE_LCHOWN -DHAVE_SYS_PARAM_H=1 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cpio/../../../contrib/cpio/stripslash.c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cpio/../../../contrib/cpio/stripslash.c:44: output > pipe has been closed > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cpio. > *** Error code 1 > > I am using cvs tag=RELENG_4 Which worked before sevaral times. > > I would be grateful for any suggestions. Well, my successful builds don't have a -pthread. Do you have that on your CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf. Kent > > Ken Seggerman > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 9:58:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DB637B446 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:58:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7842DA8D1; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:57:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:57:03 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Abd=FClkerim_Hasan?= Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: why does BSD use so much cpu ? Message-ID: <20010415115703.A8207@cec.wustl.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from a_hasan1@hotmail.com on Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 03:32:28PM +0300 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 03:32:28PM +0300, Abdülkerim Hasan wrote: > I use FreeBSD4.2 stable and only works squid(2.3) proxy on it.When > squid is used by clients BSD uses %40-60 cpu(s) (Certainly this > value changes according to use) > > My machine has multi processor, 512 Mbytes ram > How can I reduce cpu usage ? > will it be problem the server working like this ? Can you tell me why you need the CPU usage lower? What makes it a good thing that your server is doing absolutely nothing most of the time? Since it's not running at 100% all the time, there is no problem here. In fact, I would argue this is a good thing, since you know your machine is making good use of its time. This is not a problem for your server--you shouldn't be concerned until you have around 90% usage all the time, even when the machine doesn't seem to be doing anything. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 10:16:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0DB37B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:16:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A7671AA020A; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:16:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3AD9D767.DF463576@urx.com> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:16:23 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrei Cojocaru Cc: bartequi@neomedia.it, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linking Kernel Fails References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrei Cojocaru wrote: > > Yap thanks I uncommented the scbus support and it compiled fine and I've > learnt one new thing, not to compile the kernel on a 486, compile it on > another computer first then move it onto it, unless you have lots of time :) > hehe Again, thanks for your help. Be careful though. I just found that doing that had a side effect that dropped SMP support on one of my systems. I was building for the two machines I call coral and jade. Coral is dual 866 coppermines and jade is P-II 400. I had a KERNCONF for both in /etc/make.conf and suddenly coral quit booting SMP. I wanted to nfs_mount and just do installs on coral but that didn't work out "). A buildworld on coral suddenly went from 34 minutes to 46. Normally coral can do a cvsup and full set of builds and installs faster than jade can do a buildworld. That is only true when it uses both cpu's. Cheers, Kent > > >From: Salvo Bartolotta > >To: Kent Stewart > >CC: Andrei Cojocaru , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Linking Kernel Fails > >Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:28:50 +0200 (CEST) > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >X-Originating-IP: 62.98.170.236 > >Received: from [195.103.207.6] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailBCA1EFF600C24004379EC367CF060D680; Sat Apr 14 12:28:55 2001 > >Received: (from httpd@localhost)by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.10.1/8.10.1) id > >f3EJSpX04143;Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:28:51 +0200 (CEST) > >From bartequi@neomedia.it Sat Apr 14 12:28:59 2001 > >Message-ID: <987276530.3ad8a4f2ca92a@webmail.neomedia.it> > >User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs > >X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. > > > > > There is a favorite miss called "umass" on the USB bus. That seems to > >get > >many people. > > > > > >Yup. I recall seeing a few messages of this kind in the past. Hmm, > >actually, I > >answered a question of this kind :-) > > > > > > > >BTW, this is part of my workstation kernel config: > > > ># SCSI Controllers > >device > > ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices > >options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO # Allow memory-mapped I/O > > > ># SCSI peripherals > >device > > scbus # SCSI bus (required) > >device > > da # Direct Access (disks) > >device > > sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) > >device > > cd # CD > >device > > pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) > > > ># USB support -- everything commented out. > ># No USB peripherals yet. > > > > > > > >I have seen no linking/whatever errors, though. > > > >Andrei's problem is probably (?) connected with the missing SCSI support. > >Or... > >I am missing something else :-) > > > >-- Salvo > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 10:19:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from loki.giallarhorn.org (asgard.dslwan.toad.net [162.33.157.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB6E37B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:19:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from technews@giallarhorn.org) Received: from MJOLNIR (mjolnir.giallarhorn.org [172.16.1.6]) by loki.giallarhorn.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3FHo9x03779; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:50:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from technews@giallarhorn.org) Message-ID: <01e201c0c5cf$e76434a0$060110ac@MJOLNIR> Reply-To: "Orville Pike" From: "Orville Pike" To: "Jason Sheets" , References: <001501c0c557$791379c0$060110ac@MJOLNIR> <01041421231002.58592@dragon.shadonet.com> Subject: Re: Install World Problem Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:16:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG tried your suggestion and even moving the files and everytime i received the following;. this is from the chflags output but mv give the same error code or anything else i try on these files chflags: lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted bash-2.04# chflags -L -H nosunlnk lib/* chflags: lib/libc.so.5: Operation not permitted chflags: lib/libc_r.so.5: Operation not permitted chflags: lib/libcipher.so.2: Operation not permitted chflags: lib/libcrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted chflags: lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Sheets" To: "Orville Pike" Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 11:23 PM Subject: Re: Install World Problem > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I've never seen this problem before but you may make sure the immutable flag > is not set on te file /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2 > > Jason > > On Saturday 14 April 2001 20:54, you wrote: > > I am getting the following error when i do a make installworld. > > I've re-tried with all combinations of the following: > > single user mode, sysctl -w kern.securitylevel=0, chflags noschg -L -R * > > in /usr/lib > > > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 com_err.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3 > > ===> lib/libcom_err/doc > > install-info --quiet --defsection="Programming & development > > ools." --defentry="* libcom_err: (com_err). A Common Error > > Description Library for UNIX." com_err.info /usr/share/info/dir > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 com_err.info.gz /usr/share/info > > ===> lib/libcrypt > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libscrypt.a /usr/lib > > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 -fschg libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib > > install: /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted > > *** Error code 71 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcrypt. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/lib. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > thanks > > ahead > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > - -- > Q: What's a light-year? > A: One-third less calories than a regular year. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE62RRP44LR80VGArkRAiD/AJ9mdebKQ/zjfJ1PO7I96JTTV4YQGQCdGErh > JnUenHjIprhKBP0HgTShm2I= > =Az5k > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 10:20:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40F437B422 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:20:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grinner@gmx.at) Received: from HPHOME.gmx.at ([32.100.106.69]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010415172032.FTAM10838.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@HPHOME.gmx.at> for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:20:32 +0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010415131703.00a36ec0@pop.gmx.net> X-Sender: 1581895@pop.gmx.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:20:37 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Nicholas A. de Laczkovich-Siddiqi" Subject: Ftp Prog Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry if this is a stupid question, but i am very new at FreeBSD. Is there an ftp prog where one can download the contents of a whole directory, without having to specify each file? I.e. get the games dir on the freebsd server? Any Help is very much appreciated. Nicholas --------------------------------- Stand your Ground Troops! This shall be our finest Hour!!! - Famous last words To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 10:23:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A2837B496 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:23:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A91F1CC020A; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:23:43 -0700 Message-ID: <3AD9D91F.251EC465@urx.com> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:23:43 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary B. Corell" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: recompiling the kernel References: <3AD9A2B3.42A5852F@xmission.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Gary B. Corell" wrote: > > Sirs: > Not since 2.2.? have I been able to install the /usr/src tree,do the > four or five steps and recompile the kernel from the src tree that comes > on the CD. I don't have much to add to my kernel but I do need to > recompile it. For instance I want USER_LDT so I can try to put WINE on > the air. > My most recent attempt was with FreeBSD 4.1 and in the course of > recompiling ( which went a very long way thru bfore erroring out) I got > "ERROR CODE 1". when I went searching for the meaning of that error code > I couldn't find it either. All this is making me feel terribly stupid ( > Don't say it :). is there anybody out there that can help me? is there > anybody in the Salt Lake City to Ogden area that I might call to get me > restarted? Anybody in the Western US? You need to tell us what the real error message is. Error 1 is just that it basically quit. The real reason your build died will be in the messages above that. Kent > When I get all those errors, what do I need to do to "clean house" for > the next try? I've learned the hard way that is essential too. I have a > long copy of the display of the entire compile process if needed. > In Short, my installation is off the 4.1 CD complete with the sources > distribution I told it "All". Actually I have gone back, rm -dP /src > from the /usr directory, then from /stand/sysinstall went back and > reloaded the source distribution "ALL". but no joy. it still errored out > somewhere near the end. i used the instructions from the handbook for > versions after 4.0. > PLEASE !! If someone can help, please answer directly to me at > wa5qjh@xmission.com rather that some other forum. > Thanks for anyones' help. I really need it!!! > > Gary Corell > wa5qjh2xmission.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 10:25:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.2.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67AC737B43E for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:25:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tobin@mail.eecis.udel.edu) Received: from ren.eecis.udel.edu by mail.eecis.udel.edu id aa11907; 15 Apr 2001 13:25 EDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:25:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Elliot L. Tobin" X-X-Sender: To: "Nicholas A. de Laczkovich-Siddiqi" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at mail.eecis.udel.edu Subject: Re: Ftp Prog In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010415131703.00a36ec0@pop.gmx.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Use the standard ftp client, /usr/bin/ftp, and when you want to download an entire directory, issue these commands, in order: ftp> cd /into/dir ftp> prompt off ftp> mget * Then in your current directory, the contents of /into/dir will be found. ------------------------------------------------------> Elliot L. Tobin - UD/CS '02 Univ. of Delaware - Computer Science, Economics -----------------------------------------------------> On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Nicholas A. de Laczkovich-Siddiqi wrote: ->Sorry if this is a stupid question, but i am very new at FreeBSD. ->Is there an ftp prog where one can download the contents of a whole ->directory, without having to specify each file? I.e. get the games dir on ->the freebsd server? ->Any Help is very much appreciated. ->Nicholas -> ->--------------------------------- ->Stand your Ground Troops! This shall be our finest Hour!!! -> - Famous last words -> -> ->To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ->with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 10:33:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ahze.net (24-216-177-143.hsacorp.net [24.216.177.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7622737B42C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:33:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahze@ahze.net) Received: from tacobell.ahze.net (tacobell.ahze.net [192.168.0.1]) by ahze.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 321206FCB for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:33:47 -0400 From: Michael Johnson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: burncd problems.. Message-Id: <20010415133347.2ffa3c78.ahze@ahze.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD tacobell.ahze.net 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #26: Sat Apr 7 22:41:09 EDT 2001 ahze@tacobell.ahze.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/HOMER i386 I am using xmms to convert mp3 -> wav. Then useing burncd to burn it as audio cd.. I am useing the following command to burn "burncd -f /dev/acd1c audio *.wav fixate" I have done it many many times and every time I will get the following error writing from file DJ Baby Ann - Come Into My House(DJ Icey mix).wav size 55066 KB written this track 845 KB (1%) total 117652 KB only wrote -1 of 37632 bytes Then it will continue to the next song. Some songs burn okay and some give me that error. Any idea why I get that? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 10:34:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ahze.net (24-216-177-143.hsacorp.net [24.216.177.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FB137B505 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:34:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahze@ahze.net) Received: from tacobell.ahze.net (tacobell.ahze.net [192.168.0.1]) by ahze.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6911B6FCB; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:40:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:35:01 -0400 From: Michael Johnson To: Kris Kennaway Cc: watchman@ludd.luth.se, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape 4.77? Message-Id: <20010415133501.483ec1e9.ahze@ahze.net> In-Reply-To: <20010414112943.A82380@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3AD30420.2E2476E1@typhoon.co.jp> <20010414144823.A861@xor.obsecurity.org> <3AD864E2.52D94F38@ludd.luth.se> <20010414112943.A82380@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:29:43 -0700 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 04:55:30PM +0200, Joachim Strömbergson wrote: > > > fetis:/usr/ports/www> cd netscape47-communicator/ > > fetis:/usr/ports/www/netscape47-communicator> make install > > ===> netscape-communicator-4.76 is marked as broken: has a serious > > security hole, use 4.77 instead. > > > > Ok, sounds ok, but *how* do I do it? Apart from using > > linux-netscape47-communicator? > > > > Searching the netscape web page reveals that the latest FreeBSD version > > is 4.76. > > Well, therein lies the problem. If you don't care about the security > impact of the problem (read the netscape release notes or check > bugtraq) then feel free to uncomment the FORBIDDEN line until/if > Netscape release a new native binary. > > Kris > I'm not so sure they are going to release another version.. =/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 10:41:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E2537B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:41:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AD4761F01A6; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:41:27 -0700 Message-ID: <3AD9DD47.E995F505@urx.com> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:41:27 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Orville Pike Cc: Jason Sheets , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install World Problem References: <001501c0c557$791379c0$060110ac@MJOLNIR> <01041421231002.58592@dragon.shadonet.com> <01e201c0c5cf$e76434a0$060110ac@MJOLNIR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Orville Pike wrote: > > tried your suggestion and even moving the files and everytime i received > the following;. this is from the chflags output but > mv give the same error code or anything else i try on these files > > chflags: lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted > bash-2.04# chflags -L -H nosunlnk lib/* > chflags: lib/libc.so.5: Operation not permitted > chflags: lib/libc_r.so.5: Operation not permitted > chflags: lib/libcipher.so.2: Operation not permitted > chflags: lib/libcrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted > chflags: lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted Sounds like you have kern_securelevel cranked up. Set it to -1 in rc.conf, reboot, and see if you have the same problem. Kent > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason Sheets" > To: "Orville Pike" > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: Install World Problem > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I've never seen this problem before but you may make sure the immutable > flag > > is not set on te file /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2 > > > > Jason > > > > On Saturday 14 April 2001 20:54, you wrote: > > > I am getting the following error when i do a make installworld. > > > I've re-tried with all combinations of the following: > > > single user mode, sysctl -w kern.securitylevel=0, chflags noschg -L -R > * > > > in /usr/lib > > > > > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 com_err.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3 > > > ===> lib/libcom_err/doc > > > install-info --quiet --defsection="Programming & development > > > ools." --defentry="* libcom_err: (com_err). A Common Error > > > Description Library for UNIX." com_err.info /usr/share/info/dir > > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 com_err.info.gz /usr/share/info > > > ===> lib/libcrypt > > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libscrypt.a /usr/lib > > > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 -fschg libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib > > > install: /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted > > > *** Error code 71 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcrypt. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/lib. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > thanks > > > ahead > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > - -- > > Q: What's a light-year? > > A: One-third less calories than a regular year. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > iD8DBQE62RRP44LR80VGArkRAiD/AJ9mdebKQ/zjfJ1PO7I96JTTV4YQGQCdGErh > > JnUenHjIprhKBP0HgTShm2I= > > =Az5k > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 10:46: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from unity.intra.tripwire.nl (catv6218.extern.kun.nl [131.174.116.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDA437B443 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:46:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from walter@binity.com) Received: from localhost (walter@localhost) by unity.intra.tripwire.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00596; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:46:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from walter@binity.com) X-Authentication-Warning: unity.intra.tripwire.nl: walter owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:46:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Walter Hop To: "Nicholas A. de Laczkovich-Siddiqi" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ftp Prog In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010415131703.00a36ec0@pop.gmx.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [in reply to Nicholas A. de Laczkovich-Siddiqi , 15/04/01] > Is there an ftp prog where one can download the contents of a whole > directory, without having to specify each file? I.e. get the games dir on > the freebsd server? As Elliot mentioned you could do this with the standard BSD ``ftp'' program, but I'll still advise you to check out the great ``lftp'' port (/usr/ports/ftp/lftp). I don't have time to enumerate all its functions and abilities, but it is the best ftp tool I've ever seen. -- Walter Hop | +31 6 24290808 | PGP key ID: 0x84813998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 10:47:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13104.mail.yahoo.com (web13104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E23A37B424 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:47:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gms08701@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010415174744.43227.qmail@web13104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.190.1.47] by web13104.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:47:44 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:47:44 -0700 (PDT) From: trini 0 Subject: Apache To: Questions@freebsd.org Cc: trini0@optonline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey all. Im trying to get apache to work just for my lan. It installed no problems, I made a config file and it started up with no problems, when I try to browse to www.lan.trini from another box (I dont have any browser on the box with apache installed), I get a 404 error. DNS entries seem to be working. I tried pinging, nslookup and dig from the browser box to see if DNS is up and configured right, and all seems well. DocumentRoot points to where the *.html files live. Im stumped. I installed apache 1.3.19 from ports, and the box is running 4.3RC. What could be wrong?? Thanks all trini0 PS Dont reply to this address, as Im not subscribed. httpd running 217 ?? Ss 0:00.05 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 221 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 222 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 223 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 224 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 225 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd 247 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd httpd.conf #### Section 1: Global Environment MinSpareServers 5 MaxSpareServers 10 StartServers 5 MaxClients 25 MaxRequestsPerChild 10000 Listen 192.168.0.2:80 #### Section 2: 'Main' server configuration ServerAdmin webmaster@lan.trini ServerName www.lan.trini DocumentRoot "/usr/local/www/html/apache" Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None dig www.lan.trini ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> www.lan.trini ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; www.lan.trini, type = A, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.lan.trini. 1D IN CNAME hivemind.lan.trini. hivemind.lan.trini. 1D IN A 192.168.0.2 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: lan.trini. 1D IN NS hivemind.lan.trini. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: hivemind.lan.trini. 1D IN A 192.168.0.2 ;; Total query time: 1 msec ;; FROM: gladiator.lan.trini to SERVER: default -- 192.168.0.2 ;; WHEN: Sun Apr 15 12:54:43 2001 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 31 rcvd: 100 ping www.lan.trini PING hivemind.lan.trini (192.168.0.2): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.169 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.212 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.367 ms --- hivemind.lan.trini ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.169/0.249/0.367/0.085 ms __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 10:49:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ahze.net (24-216-177-143.hsacorp.net [24.216.177.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F82637B43F for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:49:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahze@ahze.net) Received: from tacobell.ahze.net (tacobell.ahze.net [192.168.0.1]) by ahze.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 497246FCB for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:49:28 -0400 From: Michael Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: burncd problems.. Message-Id: <20010415134928.1df97ea7.ahze@ahze.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.62 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD tacobell.ahze.net 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #26: Sat Apr 7 22:41:09 EDT 2001 ahze@tacobell.ahze.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/HOMER i386 I am using xmms to convert mp3 -> wav. Then useing burncd to burn it as audio cd.. I am useing the following command to burn "burncd -f /dev/acd1c audio *.wav fixate" I have done it many many times and every time I will get the following error writing from file DJ Baby Ann - Come Into My House(DJ Icey mix).wav size 55066 KB written this track 845 KB (1%) total 117652 KB only wrote -1 of 37632 bytes Then it will continue to the next song. Some songs burn okay and some give me that error. Any idea why I get that? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 11:18:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu (daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu [129.64.3.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6286B37B443 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from meshko@daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu) Received: from localhost (meshko@localhost) by daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21249 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:18:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:18:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Kruk To: Subject: Hotmail FreeBSD-->Win2k migration Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is the link: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/migration/hotmail/default.asp IMHO it's worth reading. I'd like to hear what people think... ideally something from people who work/used to work at Hotmail. Some parts of their description make sense, but others don't. For one I can't believe their stories about how it's much easier to develop and debug software on Windows. Of course they probably assigned Windows developers on the project. Also here is some math: While running FreeBSD Hotmail had 3,600 servers. Now it has more than 5,000. It's been less than a year since the transition. Before transition size of the cluster was 300, after transition -- 400 (of course it's more of a design issue than a performance indicator, but still). So what everybody thinks? In particular I don't have any experience with CGI and multithreaded alternatives so I'd like to hear opinions of experienced people about that. [aslo posted to c.u.b.f.m, please cc: to me if replying, I'm not subscribed] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 11:18:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from laxmls04.socal.rr.com (laxmls04.socal.rr.com [24.30.163.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB0A37B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:18:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwalker@cwalk.org) Received: from cwalk.org (sc-24-24-206-138.socal.rr.com [24.24.206.138]) by laxmls04.socal.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3FIIa514173 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ramon (oscar [192.168.1.39]) by cwalk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA16166 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:17:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwalker@cwalk.org) Message-ID: <001701c0c5d8$1f518d60$2701a8c0@cwalk.org> From: "Caleb Walker" To: Subject: IPFW rules Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:15:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To make this simple this is what I have in my firewall for rules right now. I am starting here so that I can figure out what I am doing wrong. I have put the two port 22 rules at the top and right now it is at the bottom, so I have tried both.. If I remove the rule nuber 64101 why can I not ssh in? After I figure this out I will go ahead with the rest of my firewall configuration. Thank you so much in advance for your help! #ipfw list 00050 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl0 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 64000 allow tcp from any to any 22 64001 allow udp from any to any 22 64101 allow ip from any to any 65535 deny ip from any to any To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 12:17:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F9C37B443 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:17:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3FJHIH86893 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:17:18 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:17:18 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Subject: [IPFW] writing rules ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone confirm for me whether I'm reading something like the below correctly? Basically, ruleset 0107[01] will only get triggered for port != (20,21,873,80), as, if its something on port 20, then it will stop processing at rule 0101[01]? 01010 1302 127709 pipe 1 tcp from ###.###.##.## 20,21 to any 01011 1298 67573 pipe 1 tcp from any to ###.###.##.## 20,21 01040 588 874583 pipe 1 tcp from ###.###.##.## 873 to any 01041 531 21248 pipe 1 tcp from any to ###.###.##.## 873 01050 7220 8202922 pipe 2 tcp from ###.###.##.## 80 to any 01051 5576 471509 pipe 2 tcp from any to ###.###.##.## 80 01070 906 1021266 pipe 2 tcp from ###.###.##.## to any 01071 786 40827 pipe 2 tcp from any to ###.###.##.## Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 12:21: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E3A37B422 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:21:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3FKR9l63292; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:27:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:27:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: Andrei Cojocaru Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW Rules (Port Forwarding) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Andrei Cojocaru wrote: > I am trying to forward all packets destined to 216.126.10.210:80 (outside IP > of multi-homed host) to 192.168.0.4:80 > > this is the IPFW rule I made: > > ipfw add 30 fwd192.168.0.4,80 tcp from any to 216.126.10.210 80 > > but I get an error when I try to add it I get this error: > ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD): Invalid argument You need to compile the kernel with 'options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD'. However, as you will see, this will not work the way you think. You should not be using ipfw fwd to do this. This is a job for natd. You are *changing* the actual src,dst address in the packets. Natd allows you to do that...ipfw fwd does not. Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 12:28:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7ED37B42C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:28:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3FKYZt63327; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:34:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:34:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: Caleb Walker Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW rules In-Reply-To: <001701c0c5d8$1f518d60$2701a8c0@cwalk.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Caleb Walker wrote: > To make this simple this is what I have in my firewall for rules right now. > I am starting here so that I can figure out what I am doing wrong. I have > put the two port 22 rules at the top and right now it is at the bottom, so I > have tried both.. If I remove the rule nuber 64101 why can I not ssh in? > After I figure this out I will go ahead with the rest of my firewall > configuration. Thank you so much in advance for your help! > > #ipfw list > 00050 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl0 > 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0 > 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 > 64000 allow tcp from any to any 22 > 64001 allow udp from any to any 22 > 64101 allow ip from any to any > 65535 deny ip from any to any > You are missing the return traffic from port 22 to your client. Keep in mind that packets are bi-directional, meaning you have packets coming into your machine and packets leaving. In this case you are missing the packets leaving your machine. ipfw add 64002 allow tcp from any 22 to any Should do the trick. Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 12:31:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from istar.ca (d141-119-162.home.cgocable.net [24.141.119.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EB637B422 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:31:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) Received: (from genisis@localhost) by istar.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3FJY5c16185; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:34:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from genisis) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:34:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru To: Caleb Walker Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW rules In-Reply-To: <001701c0c5d8$1f518d60$2701a8c0@cwalk.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Caleb, The SSH server listens on TCP port 22, but the client uses any port below 1023 (if you're using .rhosts for authentication) or any port above 1024 if you're not using .rhosts for authentication. So it looks like when you remove rule 64101 you drop your responses. Have you tried something like this: 64000 allow tcp from any to any 22 in (you also might want to log that one) 64001 allow tcp from any 22 to any out established You won't need the UDP one for port 22. HTH, Dru On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Caleb Walker wrote: > To make this simple this is what I have in my firewall for rules right now. > I am starting here so that I can figure out what I am doing wrong. I have > put the two port 22 rules at the top and right now it is at the bottom, so I > have tried both.. If I remove the rule nuber 64101 why can I not ssh in? > After I figure this out I will go ahead with the rest of my firewall > configuration. Thank you so much in advance for your help! > > #ipfw list > 00050 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl0 > 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0 > 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 > 64000 allow tcp from any to any 22 > 64001 allow udp from any to any 22 > 64101 allow ip from any to any > 65535 deny ip from any to any > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 12:43:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C974537B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:43:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f3FJhb307799; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:43:37 +0200 (CEST) To: Tommy Rump Andersen Message-ID: <987363817.3ad9f9e903e39@webmail.neomedia.it> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:43:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. X-Originating-IP: 62.98.153.171 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > getting this > In file included from ../../dev/ata/ata-all.c:60: > ../../isa/isavar.h:36: isa_if.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > from this compiling file #device isa ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ #device eisa device pci You might try uncommenting ``device isa''. mkdep should no longer complain. OTOH, if you want to completely remove ISA support: the reference causing the above errors is probably ``options UCONSOLE''. Just try and buy. I have never completely excluded ISA support so far, though; I may be missing something. -- Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 12:57:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.dynamic-cast.com (r175-5-dsl.sea.lightrealm.net [216.122.5.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE6E37B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:57:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from herveyw@dynamic-cast.com) Received: from chillipepper (chillipepper.dynamic-cast.com [192.168.1.1]) by matrix.dynamic-cast.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3FJvas25226 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:57:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from herveyw@dynamic-cast.com) Message-ID: <001501c0c5e6$5faa7350$0101a8c0@chillipepper> From: "Hervey Wilson" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: cclient-2000 / imap-uw ports Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 12:57:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have these installed and periodic/weekly/400.status_pkg indicates they are out of date (I sync ports regularly). Issuing "make fetch" in either /usr/ports/mail/cclient or /usr/ports/mail/imap-uw reports that the tarball cannot be found on multiple servers, for example: IMAP-2001.BETA.SNAP-0104051333.tar.Z: Not Found / File unavailable Does anyone have any info on the status of these ports ? Thanks in advance, H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 13: 2:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.dynamic-cast.com (r175-5-dsl.sea.lightrealm.net [216.122.5.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCB637B446 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:02:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from herveyw@dynamic-cast.com) Received: from chillipepper (chillipepper.dynamic-cast.com [192.168.1.1]) by matrix.dynamic-cast.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3FK2ks25519 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:02:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from herveyw@dynamic-cast.com) Message-ID: <001d01c0c5e7$178df370$0101a8c0@chillipepper> From: "Hervey Wilson" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: Ports deinstall / reinstall Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:03:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I sync the ports collection regularly and endeavour to keep my system up to date. When packages are reported as out of date, I try to reinstall them, with this sequence: /usr/ports/XXXX: make deinstall /usr/ports/XXXX: make reinstall However, "make deinstall" invariably seems to report that the package is not found since it's looking for the new version, not the one I have installed. I therefore find myself reinstalling the new version and thinking about deleting the old versions entries from /var/db/pkgs. This doesn't feel quite right, can someone help me refine my process ? Thanks in advance, H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 13: 5:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0962937B43F for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:05:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 60837 invoked by uid 100); 15 Apr 2001 20:05:17 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15065.65276.885958.96086@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:05:16 -0500 To: Dmitriy Pushkarev Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing ports via passworded proxy server In-Reply-To: <23957527@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dmitriy Pushkarev types: > At the place I work, we have only one Real IP adress at the server with > FreeBSD 3.4. And about 5 computes running FreeBSD 4.2-RC1. Installing > programms on server is easy - just make install. But with other we have > to download package from ftp and place it to distfiles. It's annoying > :-( Could we install ports via passworded proxy server? I.e. i want > teach port-installer to get files via passwd proxy... Probably. You can set the following in /etc/make.conf (from /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk): # FETCH_CMD - Full path to ftp/http fetch command if not in $PATH # (default: "/usr/bin/fetch -A"). # FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS - # Arguments to ${FETCH_CMD} before filename (default: none). # FETCH_AFTER_ARGS - # Arguments to ${FETCH_CMD} following filename (default: none). # FETCH_ENV - Environment to pass to ${FETCH_CMD} (default: none). # So if there's something you can hand to fetch in either the argument list or the environment to make it do what you want you can set that. See the fetch(1) and fetch(3) man pages for information on that. If you can't make fetch do what you want, but can write a script to do it, then you can set FETCH_CMD to point to the script. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 13: 6:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3570C37B422 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 66590 invoked by uid 100); 15 Apr 2001 20:06:26 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15065.65346.658054.764462@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:06:26 -0500 To: "Orville Pike" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install World Problem In-Reply-To: <115919442@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Orville Pike types: > tried your suggestion and even moving the files and everytime i received > the following;. this is from the chflags output but > mv give the same error code or anything else i try on these files > > chflags: lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted > bash-2.04# chflags -L -H nosunlnk lib/* > chflags: lib/libc.so.5: Operation not permitted > chflags: lib/libc_r.so.5: Operation not permitted > chflags: lib/libcipher.so.2: Operation not permitted > chflags: lib/libcrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted > chflags: lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted Your securelevel is set to disallow changing the flags. The FAQ explains this, and how to unset it. ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason Sheets" > To: "Orville Pike" > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: Install World Problem > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I've never seen this problem before but you may make sure the immutable > flag > > is not set on te file /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2 > > > > Jason > > > > On Saturday 14 April 2001 20:54, you wrote: > > > I am getting the following error when i do a make installworld. > > > I've re-tried with all combinations of the following: > > > single user mode, sysctl -w kern.securitylevel=0, chflags noschg -L -R > * > > > in /usr/lib > > > > > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 com_err.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3 > > > ===> lib/libcom_err/doc > > > install-info --quiet --defsection="Programming & development > > > ools." --defentry="* libcom_err: (com_err). A Common Error > > > Description Library for UNIX." com_err.info /usr/share/info/dir > > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 com_err.info.gz /usr/share/info > > > ===> lib/libcrypt > > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libscrypt.a /usr/lib > > > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 -fschg libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib > > > install: /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted > > > *** Error code 71 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcrypt. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/lib. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > thanks > > > ahead > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > - -- > > Q: What's a light-year? > > A: One-third less calories than a regular year. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > iD8DBQE62RRP44LR80VGArkRAiD/AJ9mdebKQ/zjfJ1PO7I96JTTV4YQGQCdGErh > > JnUenHjIprhKBP0HgTShm2I= > > =Az5k > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 13:22:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EC4237B446 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 26432 invoked by uid 100); 15 Apr 2001 20:22:15 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15066.759.837259.778764@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:22:15 -0500 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: questions@freebsd.org, heyjoe@cts.com Subject: RE: shells In-Reply-To: <26997871@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Mittelstaedt types: > Most of the core FreeBSD developers prefer the C shell. There's > no real technical reason for their preference, they just like > it better. Is it really most? It wouldn't take much more than a small minority to create the situation we have today, where it's simply to political to change. CSRG changed the default to csh back when the choices were csh or sh (I don't count ash, which csh displaced); ksh wasn't even an option then. Since it's trivial to change the default on a system, there's no real reason to change the default for the default. Which is why it would take a near majority of the developers wanting to change it to make it happen. >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Joe Heuring > >Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:44 PM > >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >Subject: shells > > > > > >Out of pure curiosity I'm wondering why FreeBSD uses the C-shell > >as default. > > > >I have a quick tendency to switch to bash but shortly I expect to > >be working in the field so I'm wondering how much one would be > >expected to know the C-shell. > > > >With out knowing I would expect the C-shell to have a smaller foot > >print than bash (because it's older) and that maybe certain > >devices would prefer one shell over the other. But I have no idea > >really. Can anyone shed any light on this as to how much the > >C-shell is still and will be used? Thanks. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 13:29: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24F737B42C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:28:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hacker@bolingbroke.com) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id f3FKSPe16487; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:28:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Hervey Wilson Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Ports deinstall / reinstall In-Reply-To: <001d01c0c5e7$178df370$0101a8c0@chillipepper> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Hervey Wilson wrote: > I sync the ports collection regularly and endeavour to keep my system up to > date. When packages are reported as out of date, I try to reinstall them, > with this sequence: > > /usr/ports/XXXX: make deinstall > /usr/ports/XXXX: make reinstall > > However, "make deinstall" invariably seems to report that the package is not > found since it's looking for the new version, not the one I have installed. > I therefore find myself reinstalling the new version and thinking about > deleting the old versions entries from /var/db/pkgs. > > This doesn't feel quite right, can someone help me refine my process ? I've had the same problem, and unfortunately, the port upgrade process doesn't seem to be well documented. The Port Handbook section on upgrading is blank, for example. From various tidbits on the lists, and my own trial and error process, I've developed the following procedure: 1) port foo-1.2 is out of date, the current versions is foo-1.3 2) go to the foo port directory and run "make" 3) if make completes successfully, run "pkg_delete foo-1.2" 3a) if that fails because other ports depend on foo-1.2, then do "cp /var/db/pkg/foo-1.2/+REQUIRED_BY /tmp" and then do "pkg_delete -f foo-1.2" 4) run "make install" 4a) if you did step 3a), then do "mv /tmp/+REQUIRED_BY /var/db/pkg/foo-1.3/" 5) run "grep foo-1.2 /var/db/pkg/*/+CONTENT", and if you get something like /var/db/pkg/bar-2.7/+CONTENTS:@pkgdep foo-1.2", then edit that file to reflect your upgrade to foo-1.3. This seems to work, and keeps interdependencies in sync, but it's a kludge. Changes in ports might remove some dependencies, for example, even if things otherwise work. And I'm quite possibly missing other problems, but it's just been working for me for the last while. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 13:31: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7064E37B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:30:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 34456 invoked by uid 100); 15 Apr 2001 20:30:56 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15066.1280.562998.552462@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:30:56 -0500 To: "Gary B. Corell" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recompiling the kernel In-Reply-To: <10876549@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary B. Corell types: > My most recent attempt was with FreeBSD 4.1 and in the course of > recompiling ( which went a very long way thru bfore erroring out) I got > "ERROR CODE 1". when I went searching for the meaning of that error code > I couldn't find it either. All this is making me feel terribly stupid ( > Don't say it :). is there anybody out there that can help me? is there > anybody in the Salt Lake City to Ogden area that I might call to get me > restarted? Anybody in the Western US? Error code 1 is what make reports when a command fails. You need to log the build process, and go backwards through the string of "error code 1s" until you find the command that originall failed. That should also have information about what's going on. > When I get all those errors, what do I need to do to "clean house" for > the next try? I've learned the hard way that is essential too. I have a > long copy of the display of the entire compile process if needed. To be absolutely safe, do a "make clean" in the COMPILE directory after you do the "config", but before you do the "make depend". > PLEASE !! If someone can help, please answer directly to me at > wa5qjh@xmission.com rather that some other forum. That's SOP here. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 14:25:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0556F37B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:25:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 10476 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 2001 21:25:09 -0000 Received: from pd4b9eef7.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO lofizwei) (212.185.238.247) by mail.gmx.net (mp008-rz3) with SMTP; 15 Apr 2001 21:25:09 -0000 Message-ID: <011501c0c5f2$a72ee600$0508a8c0@lofi.dyndns.org> From: "Michael Nottebrock" To: "Ken Bolingbroke" , "Hervey Wilson" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: Ports deinstall / reinstall Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:25:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Bolingbroke" To: "Hervey Wilson" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Ports deinstall / reinstall > > > On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Hervey Wilson wrote: > > > I sync the ports collection regularly and endeavour to keep my system up to > > date. When packages are reported as out of date, I try to reinstall them, > > with this sequence: > > > > /usr/ports/XXXX: make deinstall > > /usr/ports/XXXX: make reinstall > > > > However, "make deinstall" invariably seems to report that the package is not > > found since it's looking for the new version, not the one I have installed. > > I therefore find myself reinstalling the new version and thinking about > > deleting the old versions entries from /var/db/pkgs. > > > > This doesn't feel quite right, can someone help me refine my process ? > > I've had the same problem, and unfortunately, the port upgrade process > doesn't seem to be well documented. The Port Handbook section on > upgrading is blank, for example. > > >From various tidbits on the lists, and my own trial and error process, > I've developed the following procedure: > > 1) port foo-1.2 is out of date, the current versions is foo-1.3 > > 2) go to the foo port directory and run "make" > > 3) if make completes successfully, run "pkg_delete foo-1.2" > > 3a) if that fails because other ports depend on foo-1.2, then do > "cp /var/db/pkg/foo-1.2/+REQUIRED_BY /tmp" and then do > "pkg_delete -f foo-1.2" > > 4) run "make install" > > 4a) if you did step 3a), then do > "mv /tmp/+REQUIRED_BY /var/db/pkg/foo-1.3/" > > 5) run "grep foo-1.2 /var/db/pkg/*/+CONTENT", and if you get something > like /var/db/pkg/bar-2.7/+CONTENTS:@pkgdep foo-1.2", then edit that > file to reflect your upgrade to foo-1.3. > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message The procedure described at http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkg_version.html might be interesting for you, since it allows you to keep your installed ports&packages up-to-date completely automagically (not failsafe, though). Greetings, Michael Nottebrock To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 14:29:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f205.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176C837B422 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:29:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd_mike@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:29:39 -0700 Received: from 65.25.207.104 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:29:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.25.207.104] From: "Mike Dorin" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Memory Tools for FreeBSD? Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:29:39 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2001 21:29:39.0964 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DA13BC0:01C0C5F3] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My new freebsd server crashes when I try to build things like ssh. I suspect it is a memory problem. Are there any tools that could help me exercise things like memory to be sure? -Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 14:33:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from postmarq.mu.edu (maia.mu.edu [134.48.1.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D81A37B43F for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:33:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ding.yuan@marquette.edu) Received: from ch5-66.chem.mu.edu ([134.48.45.146]) by postmarq.mu.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GBURVX00.03H for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:33:33 -0500 From: Ding Organization: MU Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:23:14 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How to add a class for latex? MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041517231400.15049@ch5-66.chem.mu.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, all! I am trying to install an APA class for latex so that I can use the format in lyx. I copied .cls file to where existing .cls files are, which is /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/ Then reconfig in lyx, restart lyx. But I still cannot find the APA format. Also I notice there are broadway.cls in my system but latex config file in lyx report broadway format and no. How can I make it work? Thanks! -- YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YUAN, Ding in Milwaukee Powered by FreeBSD DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 14:44:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E35737B43F for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:44:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3FMojJ63733; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:50:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:50:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [IPFW] writing rules ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Can someone confirm for me whether I'm reading something like the below > correctly? > > Basically, ruleset 0107[01] will only get triggered for port != > (20,21,873,80), as, if its something on port 20, then it will stop > processing at rule 0101[01]? > > 01010 1302 127709 pipe 1 tcp from ###.###.##.## 20,21 to any > 01011 1298 67573 pipe 1 tcp from any to ###.###.##.## 20,21 > > 01040 588 874583 pipe 1 tcp from ###.###.##.## 873 to any > 01041 531 21248 pipe 1 tcp from any to ###.###.##.## 873 > > 01050 7220 8202922 pipe 2 tcp from ###.###.##.## 80 to any > 01051 5576 471509 pipe 2 tcp from any to ###.###.##.## 80 > > 01070 906 1021266 pipe 2 tcp from ###.###.##.## to any > 01071 786 40827 pipe 2 tcp from any to ###.###.##.## > Your assumptions are correct. Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 14:59:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from truemetal.org (truemetal.org [206.168.16.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7D7137B43F for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:59:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from universe@truemetal.org) Received: (qmail 14272 invoked by alias); 15 Apr 2001 21:55:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truemetal.org) (213.23.52.30) by truemetal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 2001 21:55:56 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADA1922.F279C985@truemetal.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:56:50 +0200 From: universe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: natd filters redirect port. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi list, my freebsd box is acting as a gateway for my internal private network, the connection is made with userland ppp (pppoe) and natd. natd also forwards packets on the external port 81 to a internal machine on port 9192. since i changed from isdn to dsl the other day the redirect_port doesn't seem to work anymore and natd (?) is filtering the tcp port 81. natd is started with: natd -n tun0 -dynamic -redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.4:9192 81 which forwards every request on tun0 (external ethernet card which connects to the dsl modem) on port 81 to the internal machine 192.168.0.4 at port 9192. however, when i do a portscan from a external machine it shows that port 81 is being filtered as soon as i run natd with the -redirect_port switch: (The 1517 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) Port State Service 22/tcp open ssh 80/tcp open http 81/tcp filtered hosts2-ns 137/tcp filtered netbios-ns 138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm 139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn port 81 should be "open", not "filtered". i configured natd to forward requests on port 2345 etc. instead but the effect stays the same, every port gets filtered. ipfw list on the gateway which runs natd shows the following: 00009 deny tcp from any to any 139 in recv tun0 00009 deny tcp from any to any 138 in recv tun0 00009 deny tcp from any to any 137 in recv tun0 00010 divert 8668 ip from any to any via tun0 00011 divert 1234 tcp from any to any out xmit tun0 setup 00020 allow ip from any to any 65535 deny ip from any to any the same configuration worked just fine when i used dialup isdn and kernel-based ppp. anyone with a idea what could have happened and/or how to fix? thanks in advance, markus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 15: 7:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.knology.net (user-24-214-63-14.knology.net [24.214.63.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31DCC37B42C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:07:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n4cnw@knology.net) Received: (qmail 30214 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2001 22:07:25 -0000 Received: from user-24-214-88-79.knology.net (HELO n4cnw.dyndns.org) (24.214.88.79) by user-24-214-63-14.knology.net with SMTP; 15 Apr 2001 22:07:25 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Mike Murphree To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with Ethereal... Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:07:25 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041517072500.01703@n4cnw.dyndns.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Having a problem with the Ethereal port that didn't happen before... It will run as a normal user, but will not allow network interfaces to be seen (same as before). If I change to superuser, it stops with the following messages: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 which used to work before. My system is a very recent 4.3-RC with XFree86-4.0.3_3 installed. The Ethereal port was rebuilt today. Ideas? Thanks, Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 15:14:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2644A37B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:14:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3FMEfc31901; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104152214.f3FMEfc31901@ptavv.es.net> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "Joe Heuring" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shells In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 14 Apr 2001 23:19:09 PDT." <000301c0c573$fba0bc60$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:14:41 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" > Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 23:19:09 -0700 > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Most of the core FreeBSD developers prefer the C shell. There's > no real technical reason for their preference, they just like > it better. To be more precise, I think they prefer it as an interactive shell. I doubt many of them routinely write csh scripts. Also, on FreeBSD, csh is REALLY tcsh which is far newer and far more powerful than the old csh. It's also standard from platform to platform where every vendor seems to have their own hacks on csh, some of them highly incompatible. Finally, tcsh is pretty much upwards compatible from csh. If you can do it under csh, it will work the same under tcsh. And tcsh has many features that any modern shell has and csh does not including filename completion, command completion, more flexible prompts, and many others. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 15:23:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (dav39.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.22.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2985037B43E for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from want_2_learn_freebsd@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:23:30 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.144.200.55] From: "Doug Wilson" To: Subject: please help with pcmcia nic... Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:23:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2001 22:23:30.0233 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3052A90:01C0C5FA] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi list. I have a laptop running FreeBSD 4.2 Release. It has a 3Com Megahertz Model 3CCFE575BT 10/100 Base-TX PCMCIA which I bought a few weeks ago. Windows of course sees the card, and I'm online there. Redhat, and Debian brands of Linux see the nic. But FreeBSD doesn't not! I am totally lost!!! I did try to add to the kernel: zp #3com PCMCIA Etherlink III (I got this from "The Complete FreeBSD"). But conf said that zp was invalid. I have searched long and hard for support--I have also searched for any info about another pcmcia nic card that FreeBSD supports, but nothing--just that obscure reference in that book that was invalid. (I can return the 3Com, but for what? Another pcmcia card that is not supported?) Does anyone got any ideas? I'd really like to get it working. Doug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 15:27: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from istar.ca (d141-119-162.home.cgocable.net [24.141.119.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5322F37B43C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:27:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) Received: (from genisis@localhost) by istar.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3FMUS116453; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:30:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from genisis) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:30:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru To: Doug Wilson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: please help with pcmcia nic... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Doug, Is Pnp OS off in your BIOS? Dru On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Doug Wilson wrote: > Hi list. > > I have a laptop running FreeBSD 4.2 Release. It has a 3Com Megahertz Model > 3CCFE575BT 10/100 Base-TX PCMCIA which I bought a few weeks ago. > > Windows of course sees the card, and I'm online there. Redhat, and Debian > brands of Linux see the nic. But FreeBSD doesn't not! > > I am totally lost!!! > > I did try to add to the kernel: > > zp #3com PCMCIA Etherlink III (I got this from "The Complete FreeBSD"). > > But conf said that zp was invalid. > > I have searched long and hard for support--I have also searched for any info > about another pcmcia nic card that FreeBSD supports, but nothing--just that > obscure reference in that book that was invalid. (I can return the 3Com, > but for what? Another pcmcia card that is not supported?) > > Does anyone got any ideas? I'd really like to get it working. > Doug. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 15:34:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rm-rstar.sfu.ca (rm-rstar.sfu.ca [142.58.120.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0FE37B42C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:34:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (tmchow@fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by rm-rstar.sfu.ca (8.10.1/8.10.1/SFU-5.0H) with ESMTP id f3FMY9l01923; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFU-5.0C) with ESMTP id PAA00751; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:34:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fraser.sfu.ca: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:34:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow To: Hervey Wilson Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: cclient-2000 / imap-uw ports In-Reply-To: <001501c0c5e6$5faa7350$0101a8c0@chillipepper> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You may have to update the master site directory to look in the subdirectory "/old". I've had massive problems with this ports and emailed the port maintainer (no reply as of yet). I feel that we should be following the stable release (imap-uw 2000c) and not these "snap" versions that are changing on a weekly basis and our ports tree can't keep up. Anyone else with thoughts on this? On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Hervey Wilson wrote: > I have these installed and periodic/weekly/400.status_pkg indicates they are > out of date (I sync ports regularly). Issuing "make fetch" in either > /usr/ports/mail/cclient or /usr/ports/mail/imap-uw reports that the tarball > cannot be found on multiple servers, for example: > > IMAP-2001.BETA.SNAP-0104051333.tar.Z: Not Found / File unavailable > > Does anyone have any info on the status of these ports ? > > Thanks in advance, > H. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 15:35: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF45337B42C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:34:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mweber@vt.edu) Received: from mail.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.190]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3FMYwu85875 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vt.edu ([128.173.37.23]) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0GBU00MFYUQ8KB@gkar.cc.vt.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:34:16 -0400 From: Matt Weber Subject: buildkernel problem To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <3ADA21E8.5A0FA447@vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,ko Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just used cvsup to update my source tree and ran: make buildworld That finished compiling correctly. Then I did a: make buildkernel and I get this error: .... perl5 /usr/src/sys/kern/makeops.pl -c /usr/src/sys/isa/isa_if.m perl5 /usr/src/sys/kern/makeops.pl -h /usr/src/sys/isa/isa_if.m make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/crypto/rc4/rc4.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. # There isn't a rc4.c file in that directory. Any suggestions what might be wrong? Here's my system type: # uname -a FreeBSD deleted.org 4.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #3: Sat Jun 10 21:15:48 EDT 2000 mweber@deleted.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GATEWAY i386 Thanks, Matt <>< -- IM: zootsewt ------ "The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace." Numbers 6:24-26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 15:37:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF1C37B42C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:37:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3FMbYc02099; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104152237.f3FMbYc02099@ptavv.es.net> To: "Doug Wilson" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: please help with pcmcia nic... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:23:03 PDT." Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:37:34 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Doug Wilson" > Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:23:03 -0700 > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Hi list. > > I have a laptop running FreeBSD 4.2 Release. It has a 3Com Megahertz Model > 3CCFE575BT 10/100 Base-TX PCMCIA which I bought a few weeks ago. > > Windows of course sees the card, and I'm online there. Redhat, and Debian > brands of Linux see the nic. But FreeBSD doesn't not! > > I am totally lost!!! > > I did try to add to the kernel: > > zp #3com PCMCIA Etherlink III (I got this from "The Complete FreeBSD"). > > But conf said that zp was invalid. > > I have searched long and hard for support--I have also searched for any info > about another pcmcia nic card that FreeBSD supports, but nothing--just that > obscure reference in that book that was invalid. (I can return the 3Com, > but for what? Another pcmcia card that is not supported?) > > Does anyone got any ideas? I'd really like to get it working. Scanning /etc/defaults/pccard.conf I can find no reference to the 3CCFE575BT. I find many similar 3Com card, though, and most use the ep device. Do you get any message when you plug in the card? Do you have pccard_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf? If so, try "pccardc dumpcis 0" if you have the card plugged into slot 0. "pccardc dumpcis 1" if it' in slot 1. If you get a dump, send it o the list. Finally, the real expertise on laptops is at freebsd-mobile. If you can't get good answer from freebsd-questions, try there. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 15:39:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4693B37B422 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:39:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3FMdkc26036; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104152239.f3FMdkc26036@ptavv.es.net> To: Matt Weber Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildkernel problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:34:16 EDT." <3ADA21E8.5A0FA447@vt.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:39:46 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:34:16 -0400 > From: Matt Weber > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > I just used cvsup to update my source tree and ran: > make buildworld > That finished compiling correctly. Then I did a: > make buildkernel > and I get this error: > .... > perl5 /usr/src/sys/kern/makeops.pl -c /usr/src/sys/isa/isa_if.m > perl5 /usr/src/sys/kern/makeops.pl -h /usr/src/sys/isa/isa_if.m > make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/crypto/rc4/rc4.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > # > > There isn't a rc4.c file in that directory. Any suggestions what might > be wrong? > Here's my system type: > > # uname -a > FreeBSD deleted.org 4.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #3: Sat Jun 10 > 21:15:48 EDT 2000 mweber@deleted.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GATEWAY i386 I believe FreeBSD 4.0 predates the merge of crypto into the main code-base. Try using the /stand/sysinstall "Configure" option to add the crypto files to your system. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 15:39:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (dav48.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.22.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E073E37B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from want_2_learn_freebsd@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:39:48 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.144.200.55] From: "Doug Wilson" To: "Dru" Cc: References: Subject: Re: please help with pcmcia nic... Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:39:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2001 22:39:48.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA61AE70:01C0C5FC] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Dru, I could not find any reference to PnP OS in the Bios. I assume that's plug-n-play? Anyway, I have a PhoenixBIOS and the closest thing to your reference was "Installed O/S:" with the choices of Win95 or Other. It was set to Other. Which should it be? Doug. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dru" To: "Doug Wilson" > > Hi Doug, > > Is Pnp OS off in your BIOS? > > Dru > > > On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Doug Wilson wrote: > > > Hi list. > > > > I have a laptop running FreeBSD 4.2 Release. It has a 3Com Megahertz Model > > 3CCFE575BT 10/100 Base-TX PCMCIA which I bought a few weeks ago. > > > > Windows of course sees the card, and I'm online there. Redhat, and Debian > > brands of Linux see the nic. But FreeBSD doesn't not! > > > > I am totally lost!!! > > > > I did try to add to the kernel: > > > > zp #3com PCMCIA Etherlink III (I got this from "The Complete FreeBSD"). > > > > But conf said that zp was invalid. > > > > I have searched long and hard for support--I have also searched for any info > > about another pcmcia nic card that FreeBSD supports, but nothing--just that > > obscure reference in that book that was invalid. (I can return the 3Com, > > but for what? Another pcmcia card that is not supported?) > > > > Does anyone got any ideas? I'd really like to get it working. > > Doug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 15:50: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.pace.edu (ntutil.pace.edu [205.232.111.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972F837B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js43064n@stmail.pace.edu) Received: from stmail.pace.edu (205.232.111.7:4963) by smtp.pace.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.A8889D51@smtp.pace.edu>; 15 Apr 2001 18:50:01 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:49:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200104151849.AA952566298@stmail.pace.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Jonathan Slivko" Reply-To: To: Subject: X Windows & GNOME X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I just installed FreeBSD 4.3-RC3 (built on 4/10/2001) and installed GNOME from packages. I was wondering why, in FreeBSD 4.3-RC3 everything sticks to the top of the screen and why I can't move anything around on my screen. Will it always be this way, or is this some kind of bug that i'm going to have to fix? Any help would be appreciated. Sorry if I sent this to the wrong list, I thought you people would be able to help me. Thanks in advance, -- Jonathan M. Slivko -- ~~~~ Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network ~~~~ -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 15:57:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from istar.ca (d141-119-162.home.cgocable.net [24.141.119.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FF937B43F for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:57:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) Received: (from genisis@localhost) by istar.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3FN1Be16532; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:01:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from genisis) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:01:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru To: Doug Wilson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: please help with pcmcia nic... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Doug, I'd leave it at Other. I actually missed the "laptop" word in your first post. I'll bow out now and go make another pot of coffee..... Dru On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Doug Wilson wrote: > Hi Dru, > > I could not find any reference to PnP OS in the Bios. I assume that's > plug-n-play? Anyway, I have a PhoenixBIOS and the closest thing to your > reference was "Installed O/S:" with the choices of Win95 or Other. It was > set to Other. Which should it be? > > Doug. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dru" > To: "Doug Wilson" > > > > Hi Doug, > > > > Is Pnp OS off in your BIOS? > > > > Dru > > > > > > On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Doug Wilson wrote: > > > > > Hi list. > > > > > > I have a laptop running FreeBSD 4.2 Release. It has a 3Com Megahertz > Model > > > 3CCFE575BT 10/100 Base-TX PCMCIA which I bought a few weeks ago. > > > > > > Windows of course sees the card, and I'm online there. Redhat, and > Debian > > > brands of Linux see the nic. But FreeBSD doesn't not! > > > > > > I am totally lost!!! > > > > > > I did try to add to the kernel: > > > > > > zp #3com PCMCIA Etherlink III (I got this from "The Complete > FreeBSD"). > > > > > > But conf said that zp was invalid. > > > > > > I have searched long and hard for support--I have also searched for any > info > > > about another pcmcia nic card that FreeBSD supports, but nothing--just > that > > > obscure reference in that book that was invalid. (I can return the > 3Com, > > > but for what? Another pcmcia card that is not supported?) > > > > > > Does anyone got any ideas? I'd really like to get it working. > > > Doug. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 15:59: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCE837B446 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:58:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reissell@cc.helsinki.fi) Received: from mursu.pesa.fi (root@sirppi.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.27]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3FMua119235; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:56:36 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from poku@localhost) by mursu.pesa.fi (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f3FMres63374; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:53:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from poku@mursu.pesa.fi) To: Ugen Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: boot floppy: trying again References: <3AD763F9.DB3B25C9@xonix.com> From: Jussi Reissell Date: 16 Apr 2001 01:53:40 +0300 In-Reply-To: Ugen's message of "Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:39:21 -0400" Message-ID: <878zl1ojuz.fsf@mursu.pesa.fi> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ugen writes: > And again - i have boot floppies made out of images boot.flp and > mfsroot.flp. I am compiling a new kernel (on some other FreeBSD box), > gzipping it and replacing the kernel on boot floppy with this new kernel. > This new kernel panicks as soon as it begins to load. This same new kernel > does not panick when booted from the harddrive. > Question - what if anything should i configure so that kernel will boot from > the floppy (and in particular from the modified boot.flp) For starters, you have to compile a built in malloc disk into the kernel, make the kernel recognize that disk as a root partition, have devices md and vn configured into the kernel, ... That's just from memory. You can find the details in /usr/src/release/Makefile. And even if you do all this by the book, will you still have a working boot floppy? You might or you might not, if the kernel, the crunched binaries in mfsroot.flp and whatnot are from different source trees. The easiest way to customize the boot floppies is to get the cvs repository and do a make release. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 16: 2: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A12237B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:01:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hacker@bolingbroke.com) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id f3FN1ue22624 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:01:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Ports deinstall / reinstall In-Reply-To: <011501c0c5f2$a72ee600$0508a8c0@lofi.dyndns.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Ken Bolingbroke wrote: > > > From various tidbits on the lists, and my own trial and error > process, > > I've developed the following procedure: > > > > 1) port foo-1.2 is out of date, the current versions is foo-1.3 > > > > 2) go to the foo port directory and run "make" > > > > 3) if make completes successfully, run "pkg_delete foo-1.2" > > > > 3a) if that fails because other ports depend on foo-1.2, then do > > "cp /var/db/pkg/foo-1.2/+REQUIRED_BY /tmp" and then do > > "pkg_delete -f foo-1.2" > > > > 4) run "make install" > > > > 4a) if you did step 3a), then do > > "mv /tmp/+REQUIRED_BY /var/db/pkg/foo-1.3/" > > > > 5) run "grep foo-1.2 /var/db/pkg/*/+CONTENT", and if you get > something > > like /var/db/pkg/bar-2.7/+CONTENTS:@pkgdep foo-1.2", then edit > that > > file to reflect your upgrade to foo-1.3. > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > The procedure described at > http://www.freebsddiary.org/pkg_version.html might be interesting for > you, since it allows you to keep your installed ports&packages > up-to-date completely automagically (not failsafe, though). Uh, no. That procedure only does steps 2, 3a, and 4 above. It does nothing to handle package dependencies. I want to keep package dependencies intact, so I do the additional steps as described. I still do use pkg_version to check to see which ports need updating, but I do the rest manually. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 16: 5:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (dav16.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.22.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072C437B440 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:05:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from want_2_learn_freebsd@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:05:45 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.144.200.55] From: "Doug Wilson" To: "Kevin Oberman" Cc: References: <200104152237.f3FMbYc02099@ptavv.es.net> Subject: Re: please help with pcmcia nic... Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:05:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2001 23:05:45.0230 (UTC) FILETIME=[99FF02E0:01C0C600] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Kevin, I did not have pccard_enable="YES" in my /etc/rc.conf. Should I put it in? Well I did it anyway - rebooted. No change. I typed the commands you gave: "pccardc dumpcis 0" got: Configuration data for card in slot 0 Tuple #1, code = 0xff (Terminator), length = 0 2 slots found "pccardc dumpcis 1" got the same: Configuration data for card in slot 0 Tuple #1, code = 0xff (Terminator), length = 0 2 slots found I will though try that other list, thanks for mentioning it! Doug. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Oberman" To: "Doug Wilson" > > From: "Doug Wilson" > > Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:23:03 -0700 > > Hi list. > > > > I have a laptop running FreeBSD 4.2 Release. It has a 3Com Megahertz Model > > 3CCFE575BT 10/100 Base-TX PCMCIA which I bought a few weeks ago. > > > > Windows of course sees the card, and I'm online there. Redhat, and Debian > > brands of Linux see the nic. But FreeBSD doesn't not! > > > > I am totally lost!!! > > > > I did try to add to the kernel: > > > > zp #3com PCMCIA Etherlink III (I got this from "The Complete FreeBSD"). > > > > But conf said that zp was invalid. > > > > I have searched long and hard for support--I have also searched for any info > > about another pcmcia nic card that FreeBSD supports, but nothing--just that > > obscure reference in that book that was invalid. (I can return the 3Com, > > but for what? Another pcmcia card that is not supported?) > > > > Does anyone got any ideas? I'd really like to get it working. > > Scanning /etc/defaults/pccard.conf I can find no reference to the > 3CCFE575BT. I find many similar 3Com card, though, and most use the ep > device. > > Do you get any message when you plug in the card? Do you have > pccard_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf? > > If so, try "pccardc dumpcis 0" if you have the card plugged into slot > 0. "pccardc dumpcis 1" if it' in slot 1. If you get a dump, send it o > the list. Finally, the real expertise on laptops is at > freebsd-mobile. If you can't get good answer from freebsd-questions, > try there. > > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 16:11:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net [24.69.46.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EDC37B43E; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (localhost.gv.shawcable.net [127.0.0.1]) by h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3FNDc108318; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:13:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Michael O'Henly" Reply-To: michael@tenzo.com Organization: TENZO Design To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Printer madness... Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:13:38 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <000001c0c573$9bc40680$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <000001c0c573$9bc40680$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Cc: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , Mike Meyer , scott@sawilson.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041516133803.00452@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday 14 April 2001 23:16, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > The /etc/printcap file needs to be _exactly_ correct, and I > mean exact - one wrong character and it won't work. Thanks to Ted, Mike, and Scott for help with this. I'm embarassed to admit that your first guess, Ted, was correct. I checked EVERY character in xemacs when I edited /etc/printcap and made sure that the indented lines began with a single tab and no spaces, etc. I even trimmed the last carriage return and made sure that when I put the cursor after the colon in the last line, xemacs said "end of file". So after, say, eight hours of accumulated effort I started writing another plea for assistance to the list and began by inserting /etc/printcap into kmail. Lo and behold, at the end of the last line there were a bunch of garbage characters that were not visible in xemacs! I opened the file in vi (where the garbage chars were also not visible), deleted and reentered the last line -- and now it works perfectly. I'd hate to say that the moral of this story is not to trust xemacs. If you can't trust xemacs, what hope is there for humanity...? M. -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 16:22:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595E537B42C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grinner@gmx.at) Received: from el-pozo.gmx.at ([32.101.202.53]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010415232218.REGP21907.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@el-pozo.gmx.at> for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:22:18 +0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010415191726.00aa3148@pop.gmx.net> X-Sender: 1581895@pop.gmx.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:22:27 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Nicholas A. de Laczkovich-Siddiqi" Subject: Problem with untaring files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I tried to untar some files (with "tar -x FILE" ) i always get an error message saying :"tar: can't open /dev/rsa0 : Device not configured" . How do correct this, i.e. how do i configure this device? Thx Nicholas --------------------------------- Stand your Ground Troops! This shall be our finest Hour!!! - Famous last words To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 16:29: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from istar.ca (d141-119-162.home.cgocable.net [24.141.119.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7388037B449 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:29:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) Received: (from genisis@localhost) by istar.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3FNWYF16600; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:32:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from genisis) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:32:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru To: "Nicholas A. de Laczkovich-Siddiqi" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with untaring files In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010415191726.00aa3148@pop.gmx.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From "man tar", the default is to assume that device unless you specify your filename using the f switch. Try this instead: tar xvf filename or, if it's gzipped tar xzvf Dru On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Nicholas A. de Laczkovich-Siddiqi wrote: > When I tried to untar some files (with "tar -x FILE" ) i always get an > error message saying :"tar: can't open /dev/rsa0 : Device not configured" . > How do correct this, i.e. how do i configure this device? > Thx > Nicholas > > --------------------------------- > Stand your Ground Troops! This shall be our finest Hour!!! > - Famous last words > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 16:33:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B5B37B443 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:33:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id jvwaaaaa for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:33:02 +1000 Message-ID: <3ADA30B7.910C3921@quake.com.au> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:37:27 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Smithurst , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Creating EXACT image of a CD References: <3AD68EBA.EC6A8380@quake.com.au> <20010413135052.H75296@scientia.demon.co.uk> <3AD80DD3.7CA90D11@quake.com.au> <20010415220524.A41165@scientia.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ben Smithurst wrote: > > Kal Torak wrote: > > > I never like to use the original cd, I always use a backup... > > But it wont let me, do you have any idea how it knows its different > > from the original and how I can fix that? > > no idea, sorry. Yeah no problem... I think they must do something to a sector on the disk so that its not readable, but there is no data there, and somehow it checks for this to make sure its the real cd... using dd you get all the data, but it doesnt copy the special sector, infact it seems to cause dd to ether generate and error or go into a read loop that it wont get out of even with a kill -9... There must be some tool that can just make an image, even of whatever tricks they do with sectors... Its so damn annoying not being able to make working backups of cd's these days! In my country its a consumers right to be able to make a backup copy... They seem to be making it very hard to use this right... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 16:47:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B703A37B443 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:47:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 75934 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Apr 2001 23:47:29 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:47:29 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Michael O'Henly Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Ted Mittelstaedt , Mike Meyer , scott@sawilson.org Subject: Re: Printer madness... Message-ID: <20010416014728.B74927@mail.webmonster.de> References: <000001c0c573$9bc40680$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <01041516133803.00452@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01041516133803.00452@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net>; from michael@tenzo.com on Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 04:13:38PM -0700 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG one might cite the emacs etc/JOKES file here, look for Message-ID: <1991Jul11.031731.9260@athena.mit.edu> Subject: The True Path (long) ;-) /k Michael O'Henly(michael@tenzo.com)@2001.04.15 16:13:38 +0000: > I'd hate to say that the moral of this story is not to trust xemacs. If you > can't trust xemacs, what hope is there for humanity...? -- > An open mind, like an open mouth, does have a purpose: and that is, to > close it upon something solid. Otherwise, it could end up like a city > sewer, rejecting nothing. -- G. K. Chesterton KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de [Key] [KeyID---] [Created-] [Fingerprint-------------------------------------] GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 BF46 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 16:55:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web12806.mail.yahoo.com (web12806.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A33037B43C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:55:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swliucn@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010415235508.5471.qmail@web12806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.98.16.1] by web12806.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:55:08 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:55:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Liu Siwei Subject: wine question To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have downloaded wine-20010326, compile and install it , all things are right. But when I execute windows program (such as notepad.exe), it say: Script started on Sun Apr 15 20:53:55 2001 > wine KFW.exe fixme:string:GetLocaleInfoA 'IDEFAULTMACCODEPAGE' is not defined for your language (0804). Please define it in dlls/kernel/nls/YourLanguage.nls and submit patch for inclusion into the next Wine release. err:module:BUILTIN32_dlopen failed to load .so lib for builtin pcl5ems3.dll: Shared object "libpcl5ems3.so" not found fixme:ddeml:DdeNameService (1,49289,0,1): stub err:win32:do_relocations Forced to relocate system DLL (base > 2GB). This is not good. err:fixup:NE_LoadSegment No implementation for KEYBOARD.10, setting to 0xdeadbeef err:fixup:NE_LoadSegment No implementation for USER.950, setting to 0xdeadbeef err:fixup:NE_LoadSegment No implementation for USER.951, setting to 0xdeadbeef err:fixup:NE_LoadSegment No implementation for USER.952, setting to 0xdeadbeef err:fixup:NE_LoadSegment No implementation for USER.953, setting to 0xdeadbeef err:fixup:NE_LoadSegment No implementation for USER.954, setting to 0xdeadbeef err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection Critical section 0x2813d950 wait timed out, retrying (60 sec) fs=0457 Terminated > Script done on Sun Apr 15 20:54:32 2001 why? what's the "pcl5ems3.dll" or "libpcl5ems3.so" ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 17:47:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe8.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338C737B422 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:47:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from srichardson@peakei.com) Received: from Default ([24.168.201.87]) by mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:44:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Smartcode ObjectSet 1.0 From: S.E.Richardson Subject: IBM Business Partner Events program Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:43:00 Organization: PEAK Events International, LLC To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=PMail:=_0085@@fCPj1iTyoEqmcBH7J86a" Message-ID: <084161244001041FE8@mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=PMail:=_0085@@fCPj1iTyoEqmcBH7J86a Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable = Marketing and Sales Opportunities provided by IBM's PartnerWorld..... 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what is freebsd, can I run a network on = it alone is=20 there anything else needed
------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C0C5D5.31F946E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 18:24:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC4537B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:24:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from suleyman@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (suleyman@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3G1OWX19852; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:24:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Seggerman To: Kent Stewart Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Buildworld Fails In-Reply-To: <3AD9D0C8.E19A8B71@urx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you so much. I just got rid of the whole /etc/make.conf file with the lines: LIBS+= -pthread CXXFLAGS+= -pthread CFLAGS+= -pthread Now it builds and installs. > Well, my successful builds don't have a -pthread. Do you have that on your > CFLAGS in /etc/make.conf. Ken Seggerman suleyman@echonyc.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 18:35:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from raffles-it.com (raffles.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB1F37B43C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpd@raffles-it.com) Received: from arrow.lan.raffles-it.com (arrow.lan.raffles-it.com [192.168.100.51]) by raffles-it.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3G1Fwr29900 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 02:15:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dpd@lan.raffles-it.com) Received: from arrow.lan.raffles-it.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arrow.lan.raffles-it.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3G1FwG02498 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 02:15:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dpd@lan.raffles-it.com) Message-Id: <200104160115.f3G1FwG02498@arrow.lan.raffles-it.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems booting a Digital 5000 PC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_822413248P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 02:15:58 +0100 From: David Dooley Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_822413248P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I have a Digital 5000 PC that I have been trying to install FreeBSD 4.2 on to for the last couple of weeks. It would appear that I can install FreeBSD no problem, but when I try and boot my nice new clean install I get a 'read error' and that's it. I can boot from the 2nd CD and muck about with the disk disklabel and fdisk to no avail. The system was running Win98 and so I thought that I would try and reinstall that and see if the drive was nackered, but it worked and it booted up into Windows first time. I have now gone back to FreeBSD 4.2 and I once again get this 'read error' error message. I have tried to be 'Dangerously Dedicated' and not with no success. I found an option in the BIOS that's under the Advanced option tab of my Phoenix BIOS that is labelled 'Large Disk Access Mode' and has the options 'DOS' and 'OTHER'. In the help panel the text is UNIX, Novell Netware, or other operating systems, select 'OTHER'. If you are installing new software and the drive failes, change this selection and try again. Different operating systems require different representations of drive geometries. I have tried every permutation of Other/Dos and Not/Dangerously Dedicated. Just this evening I tried to install FreeBSD again, but this time I tried using a small root partition thinking it maybe something to do with old machine and large partitions, so I set the root partition to be 512M and 128M swap and /usr everything else. Previously I had set the root partition to be everything bar 128M for swap. I have done this rebuild tonight with 'Dangerously dedicated' set and the BIOS setting set to both DOS and other. Just as an aside the option was set to DOS but when I installed Win98 I had mistakenly left it at 'Other' and it still worked. Once I have FreeBSD installed, this machines prime function will be to be a print server for a postscript printer, with the occasional duty as a cd burner. The system is a Pentium 2 233MHz with 96MB ram and a 3.2 GB IDE Hard Drive (1st channel, Master), 1 CDROM (2nd channel, Master), 1 CD-RW (1st channel, slave). The drive has been partitioned Thanks for your time and any assistance. David. --==_Exmh_822413248P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 iD8DBQE62kfOiTCzTVFwd6wRAg4RAJ9SY2xNasIlmicdDswLPU7qmvlRMACeJYg5 RY0OvX/53pIGu/PNPDAN9TA= =I28J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_822413248P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 18:42: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08F637B43E for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:42:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from banksw@fang.cs.sunyit.edu) Received: from localhost (banksw@localhost) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA80125 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:41:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from banksw@fang.cs.sunyit.edu) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:41:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Wyatt Banks To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: handbook correction Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In www.freebsd.org/handbook/nis.html it says: However, some operating systems (notably SunOS) use their NIS domain name as their Internet domain name. If one or more machines on your network have this restriction, you must use the Internet domain name as your NIS domain name. in section 17.7.4.1.1, and this is untrue. I believe it would be true if you replaced the word "network" with "subnet". I know this is untrue because we do it here, so please, no replies suggesting I am wrong. Thank you. banksw@sunyit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 18:57:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net [24.69.46.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE9637B424 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:57:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (localhost.gv.shawcable.net [127.0.0.1]) by h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3G1xe115192; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:59:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Michael O'Henly" Reply-To: michael@tenzo.com Organization: TENZO Design To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printer madness... Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:59:40 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <000001c0c573$9bc40680$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <01041516133803.00452@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> <20010416014728.B74927@mail.webmonster.de> In-Reply-To: <20010416014728.B74927@mail.webmonster.de> Cc: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041518594004.00452@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That's hliarious! I especially like the line: Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all. Thanks. M. PS: For anyone else who's interested: http://www.geocities.com/kensanata/ed.html On Sunday 15 April 2001 16:47, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > one might cite the emacs etc/JOKES file here, look for > Message-ID: <1991Jul11.031731.9260@athena.mit.edu> > Subject: The True Path (long) > ;-) > /k > > Michael O'Henly(michael@tenzo.com)@2001.04.15 16:13:38 +0000: > > I'd hate to say that the moral of this story is not to trust xemacs. If > > you can't trust xemacs, what hope is there for humanity...? -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 18:58:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from castle.dreaming.org (castle.dreaming.org [216.221.214.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E6F37B42C; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:58:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mitayai@branchmedia.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by castle.dreaming.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3G1w8462452; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:58:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mitayai@branchmedia.com) Received: from arachne.dreaming.org (arachne.dreaming.org [216.221.214.171]) by castle.dreaming.org (8.11.3/8.11.2av) with ESMTP id f3G1w5M62443; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:58:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mitayai@branchmedia.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by arachne.dreaming.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3G1ukM56365; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:56:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mitayai@branchmedia.com) X-Authentication-Warning: arachne.dreaming.org: www set sender to mitayai@branchmedia.com using -f To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mounting Linux Partitions in Extended Partitions Message-ID: <987386205.3ada515dd3520@postoffice.dreaming.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:56:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4 X-Originating-IP: 216.129.192.238 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I have a machine here that has a SCSI disk that used to have Linux installed on it. When i check fdisk, it appears that there are two partitions, 1 with 23M that seems to have the boot stuff and kernel, and then one with several Gigs with the actual data (i booted into Linux to make sure, everything looks fine). In FreeBSD, when i look at fdisk, the first partition is labelled as ext2fs and the second partition is labelled as DOS extended. I can mount the first one fine with mount_ext2fs, but i can't figure out if, or how, i can mount the larger one. Does anyone have any insight? Regards, Mit Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Branch Media, Inc. / DreamLabs / Mitayai.Net mit@branchmedia.com http://www.branchmedia.com | http://www.dreamlabs.com v: (416)323-0840 f: (416)323-0894 ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: postoffice.dreaming.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 19: 3:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D9A37B42C; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0AD47A91E; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:02:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:02:35 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting Linux Partitions in Extended Partitions Message-ID: <20010415210235.A12986@cec.wustl.edu> References: <987386205.3ada515dd3520@postoffice.dreaming.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <987386205.3ada515dd3520@postoffice.dreaming.org>; from mitayai@branchmedia.com on Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 09:56:45PM -0400 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 09:56:45PM -0400, Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > Hello! > > I have a machine here that has a SCSI disk that used to have Linux > installed on it. > > When i check fdisk, it appears that there are two partitions, 1 with > 23M that seems to have the boot stuff and kernel, and then one with > several Gigs with the actual data (i booted into Linux to make sure, > everything looks fine). > > In FreeBSD, when i look at fdisk, the first partition is labelled as > ext2fs and the second partition is labelled as DOS extended. I can > mount the first one fine with mount_ext2fs, but i can't figure out if, > or how, i can mount the larger one. > > Does anyone have any insight? Use the slice number equal to the partition number in linux. For instace, if Linux saw the disk as sdb6, use da1s6 in FreeBSD. This will work just fine. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 19:12:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A449A37B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3G3IUn64478; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:18:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:18:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: universe Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd filters redirect port. In-Reply-To: <3ADA1922.F279C985@truemetal.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, universe wrote: > hi list, > > my freebsd box is acting as a gateway for my internal private network, > the connection is made with userland ppp (pppoe) and natd. > > natd also forwards packets on the external port 81 to a internal > machine on port 9192. since i changed from isdn to dsl the other day > the redirect_port doesn't seem to work anymore and natd (?) is > filtering the tcp port 81. > > natd is started with: natd -n tun0 -dynamic -redirect_port tcp > 192.168.0.4:9192 81 which forwards every request on tun0 (external > ethernet card which connects to the dsl modem) on port 81 to the > internal machine 192.168.0.4 at port 9192. > > however, when i do a portscan from a external machine it shows that > port 81 is being filtered as soon as i run natd with the > -redirect_port switch: > > (The 1517 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) > Port State Service > 22/tcp open ssh > 80/tcp open http > 81/tcp filtered hosts2-ns > 137/tcp filtered netbios-ns > 138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm > 139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn > > port 81 should be "open", not "filtered". i configured natd to forward > requests on port 2345 etc. instead but the effect stays the same, > every port gets filtered. > > ipfw list on the gateway which runs natd shows the following: > > 00009 deny tcp from any to any 139 in recv tun0 > 00009 deny tcp from any to any 138 in recv tun0 > 00009 deny tcp from any to any 137 in recv tun0 > 00010 divert 8668 ip from any to any via tun0 > 00011 divert 1234 tcp from any to any out xmit tun0 setup > 00020 allow ip from any to any > 65535 deny ip from any to any What is rule 11? Is that somehow tied to the PPPoE setup [sorry not familiar with that setup]? Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 19:15:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from loki.giallarhorn.org (asgard.dslwan.toad.net [162.33.157.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A070837B43F for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from technews@giallarhorn.org) Received: from MJOLNIR (mjolnir.giallarhorn.org [172.16.1.6]) by loki.giallarhorn.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3G2k1a00492; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:46:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from technews@giallarhorn.org) Message-ID: <000f01c0c61a$bef12d20$060110ac@MJOLNIR> Reply-To: "Orville Pike" From: "Orville Pike" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: References: <15065.65346.658054.764462@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: Install World Problem Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:08:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG thanks; before i received your msg i rebooted into single user mode again and did the following: fsck /usr which fixed some errors on the file system chflags noschg on affected files (nothing happened) chflags schg on files chflags noschg on affected files this worked, not sure why. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Meyer" To: "Orville Pike" Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Install World Problem > Orville Pike types: > > tried your suggestion and even moving the files and everytime i received > > the following;. this is from the chflags output but > > mv give the same error code or anything else i try on these files > > > > chflags: lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted > > bash-2.04# chflags -L -H nosunlnk lib/* > > chflags: lib/libc.so.5: Operation not permitted > > chflags: lib/libc_r.so.5: Operation not permitted > > chflags: lib/libcipher.so.2: Operation not permitted > > chflags: lib/libcrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted > > chflags: lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted > > Your securelevel is set to disallow changing the flags. The FAQ > explains this, and how to unset it. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jason Sheets" > > To: "Orville Pike" > > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 11:23 PM > > Subject: Re: Install World Problem > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > I've never seen this problem before but you may make sure the immutable > > flag > > > is not set on te file /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2 > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > On Saturday 14 April 2001 20:54, you wrote: > > > > I am getting the following error when i do a make installworld. > > > > I've re-tried with all combinations of the following: > > > > single user mode, sysctl -w kern.securitylevel=0, chflags noschg -L -R > > * > > > > in /usr/lib > > > > > > > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 com_err.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3 > > > > ===> lib/libcom_err/doc > > > > install-info --quiet --defsection="Programming & development > > > > ools." --defentry="* libcom_err: (com_err). A Common Error > > > > Description Library for UNIX." com_err.info /usr/share/info/dir > > > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 com_err.info.gz /usr/share/info > > > > ===> lib/libcrypt > > > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libscrypt.a /usr/lib > > > > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 -fschg libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib > > > > install: /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted > > > > *** Error code 71 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcrypt. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/lib. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > ahead > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > - -- > > > Q: What's a light-year? > > > A: One-third less calories than a regular year. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) > > > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > > > > > iD8DBQE62RRP44LR80VGArkRAiD/AJ9mdebKQ/zjfJ1PO7I96JTTV4YQGQCdGErh > > > JnUenHjIprhKBP0HgTShm2I= > > > =Az5k > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 19:19:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.rdc2.ab.home.com (mail1.rdc2.ab.home.com [24.64.2.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1716D37B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:19:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jerwiebe@canada.com) Received: from jeropa ([24.66.73.75]) by mail1.rdc2.ab.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010416021948.PXWR25329.mail1.rdc2.ab.home.com@jeropa> for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:19:48 -0700 From: "Jeremy Wiebe" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: XFree86-4 port install error Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:20:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I apologize if someone has answered this question already. I have not seen an answer and a trip to Dejanews and the Freebsd.org search engine have revealed nothing. What follows is my original question. I reinstalled FreeBSD 4.2 again from scratch and CVSup'd a new ports tree and tried building again.. no go. Jer -------- Original Post ------------ Hi all, I just installed FreeBSD 4.2 RELEASE from the ISO image. I wanted to run XFree86-4 on it so I went to the /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 directory and ran a 'make install'. It did most of the install, as far as I can tell, but then bombed while building what appears to be the fonts. What follows is the tail end of the make where it crashes. I can attach more information if needed. Not really sure what information would be relevant in this case. ---- make output ----- ... + /usr/bin/install -c -m 0444 gb24st.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc + /usr/bin/install -c -m 0444 arabic24.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc + /usr/bin/install -c -m 0444 cu-alt12.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc + /usr/bin/install -c -m 0444 cu-arabic12.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc + /usr/bin/install -c -m 0444 cu-lig12.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc + /usr/bin/install -c -m 0444 cu-pua12.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc + /usr/bin/install -c -m 0444 cu12.pcf.gz /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc /usr/bin/install -c -m 0444 fonts.dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.dir /usr/bin/install -c -m 0444 fonts.alias /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias make: don't know how to make ../../../fonts/encodings/encodings.dir. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/fonts/bdf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/fonts. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. samwise# d [K^D exit Script done on Fri Apr 13 13:02:15 2001 --- end of make output --- Jer Wiebe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 19:28:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtppop1pub.verizon.net (smtppop1pub.gte.net [206.46.170.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65C437B43F for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:28:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Received: from gte.net (evrtwa1-ar4-4-34-145-186.dsl.gtei.net [4.34.145.186]) by smtppop1pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id VAA84057473 Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:21:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from res03db2@localhost) by gte.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA42466; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:30:31 -0700 From: Robert Clark To: Kal Torak Cc: Ben Smithurst , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Creating EXACT image of a CD Message-ID: <20010415193031.A42447@darkstar.gte.net> References: <3AD68EBA.EC6A8380@quake.com.au> <20010413135052.H75296@scientia.demon.co.uk> <3AD80DD3.7CA90D11@quake.com.au> <20010415220524.A41165@scientia.demon.co.uk> <3ADA30B7.910C3921@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <3ADA30B7.910C3921@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:37:27AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Some copy protection schemes introduce intentional errors on the master. Many CD-ROM drives fix the error before passing the data on. I would think that using dd to copy these sort of discs would not produce an identical copy. [RC] On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:37:27AM +1000, Kal Torak wrote: > Ben Smithurst wrote: > > > > Kal Torak wrote: > > > > > I never like to use the original cd, I always use a backup... > > > But it wont let me, do you have any idea how it knows its different > > > from the original and how I can fix that? > > > > no idea, sorry. > > > Yeah no problem... I think they must do something to a sector on the disk > so that its not readable, but there is no data there, and somehow it checks > for this to make sure its the real cd... > > using dd you get all the data, but it doesnt copy the special sector, infact > it seems to cause dd to ether generate and error or go into a read loop that > it wont get out of even with a kill -9... > > There must be some tool that can just make an image, even of whatever tricks > they do with sectors... Its so damn annoying not being able to make working > backups of cd's these days! > > In my country its a consumers right to be able to make a backup copy... They > seem to be making it very hard to use this right... > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 19:49:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E240537B43E for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:49:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@tumbolia.com) Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7519661BF; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:47:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:47:26 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt X-Sender: dscheidt@shell-2.enteract.com To: Mike Dorin Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory Tools for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Mike Dorin wrote: :My new freebsd server crashes when I try to build things like ssh. :I suspect it is a memory problem. Are there any tools that could :help me exercise things like memory to be sure? :-Mike The machine panics, or the gcc process dies? If it's a panic, what's the panic string? If it's just a process dieing, what does it die of? What version of FreeBSD? What sort of hardware? Without this sort of information, you're not going to get much help. Software memory testers are worse than worthless. If you think you've got a memory problem, replace it. If your vendor won't replace suspect memory, no questions asked, get a better vendor. David Scheidt -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 19:53:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gradient.cis.upenn.edu (GRADIENT.CIS.UPENN.EDU [158.130.67.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801CA37B423; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:53:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from agoodloe@gradient.cis.upenn.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gradient.cis.upenn.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3G2rUp05126; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:53:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Alwyn Goodloe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone managed to get microns ClientPro's X going Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We have several systems like our Micron ClientPros running FreeBSD. These machines have the Intel 82810E chip in it and what seems forever there has only been XFree86 drivers for the Linux. Is my info out of date?? Has anyone found a workaround ?? To be honest I'm tired of all the snickering from the Linux guys in my office. Not haveing X windows running was embarsing, but now I MUST have it working. I know that the XFree86 guys are the ones to bitch to but the last time I did they seemed to say -- use Linux. Any help, suggestions, etc. Alwyn agoodloe@gradient.cis.upenn.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 20: 9:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8887837B422 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:09:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timcm@umich.edu) Received: from galaga.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smtp@galaga.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.145]) by berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id XAA00331 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (timcm@localhost) by galaga.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/5.1-client) with ESMTP id XAA27970 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:09:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim McMillen X-Sender: timcm@galaga.gpcc.itd.umich.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: HP48GX file transfer Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Has anyone used the kermit or gkermit ports to transfer files to their HP48G or GX graphing calculators? There don't seem to be any other tools in ports to use to transfer the files. HP has even GPL'd the windows program that is all touchy feely and GUIish, but it appears not to have been ported to anything but windows. In addition to it being GUI based it does seem to have some actually useful features above the simple gkermit. Really I don't care about that as long as I can use gkermit and the serial cable (coming in the mail) to transfer files to my HP. (using FreeBSD of course.) If anyone has done it I'd appreciate a bit of help. At the moment (beginning new career, serious time drain), I can't handle the mail load on -questions, so if you could please keep me cc'd on any responses I'd really appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 20:11:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B89837B422 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:11:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fasi_74@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO client2) (202.87.102.168) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 03:11:24 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <001a01c0c687$e3535db0$a86657ca@client2> From: "faisal" To: "Jeremy Wiebe" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Is xfree86 ftp down ? Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:14:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is xfree86 ftp down ? i am trying to download solaris binaries but they wont download ? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 20:23:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (c004-h006.c004.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A2C837B43C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:23:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from FJU@Fritzilldo.com) Received: (cpmta 9631 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2001 20:23:31 -0700 Received: from 209-6-191-48.c6-0.wth-ubr2.sbo-wth.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO fritzilldo) (209.6.191.48) by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.14.77) with SMTP; 15 Apr 2001 20:23:31 -0700 X-Sent: 16 Apr 2001 03:23:31 GMT Message-ID: <000f01bfa81c$47ced070$6401a8c0@fritzilldo> From: "Christopher J. Umina" To: Subject: Quotaon -a Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 23:23:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BFA7FA.C02D9AA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BFA7FA.C02D9AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Whenever I type quotaon -a /usr my server stops responding... Why = is that? Is there any type of resolution to this problem? Thank you, Christopher J. Umina ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BFA7FA.C02D9AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
    = Whenever I type=20 quotaon -a /usr my server stops responding...  Why is that? Is = there any=20 type of resolution to this problem?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BFA7FA.C02D9AA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 20:39:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp010.mail.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DACB637B446 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:39:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fasi_74@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO client2) (202.87.102.168) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 03:39:25 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <00a101c0c68b$cd31ca40$a86657ca@client2> From: "faisal" To: "Andrew Hesford" , "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" Cc: "FreeBSD" , References: <987386205.3ada515dd3520@postoffice.dreaming.org> <20010415210235.A12986@cec.wustl.edu> Subject: freebsd in dos extended ? Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:42:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Can freeBSD be installed in a dos extended partition ? I am having real trouble creating another primary partition .. on have 1 dos logical partition in my extended .. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 20:49:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.lanset.com (mail.lanset.com [208.187.165.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE7837B446 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:49:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from damon@lanset.com) Received: from placeholder159.lanset.com (unverified [208.187.245.159]) by mail2.lanset.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.0.179) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:44:19 -0700 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:49:25 -0700 (PDT) From: damon blom To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: move / and /usr from drive 1 to drive 2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-791534744-987392881=:835" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-791534744-987392881=:835 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi I have NEC pc freebsd 4.2 stable. 10 meg and 40 meg hard disk. I added 2 nd hard drive and used "cheat sheet" to put /var on drive 2 (all freebsd). drive 1: DOS : fat-c freebsd: / , /usr, /proc, swap drive 2: freebsd /var /backup I would like to move /, /usr, /proc & swap to drive 2 so all of DOS on drive 1 and all freebsd on drive 2. Could anyone please tell me how to do it step by step cheat sheet style? Thank you so much Damon --0-791534744-987392881=:835 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=xxx Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=xxx RmlsZXN5c3RlbSAgMUstYmxvY2tzICAgICBVc2VkICAgIEF2YWlsIENhcGFj aXR5ICBNb3VudGVkIG9uDQovZGV2L2FkMHMyYSAgICAgOTkxODMgICAgODY5 MzggICAgIDQzMTEgICAgOTUlICAgIC8NCi9kZXYvYWQwczJnICAgICAgMzkz NSAgICAgICAgMSAgICAgMzYyMCAgICAgMCUgICAgL3Byb2MNCi9kZXYvYWQw czJlICAgNTE2MDQ3NyAgNDIxNDA3OSAgIDUzMzU2MCAgICA4OSUgICAgL3Vz cg0KL2Rldi93ZDFzMWUgIDMxNzU5OTY4ICA0MDQyNjYxIDI1MTc2NTEwICAg IDE0JSAgICAvdmFyDQovZGV2L3dkMXMxZiAgMTA3MjU2MzQgMTA3MjU2MzQg IC04NTgwNTAgICAxMDklICAgIC9iYWNrdXANCnByb2NmcyAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgNCAgICAgICAgNCAgICAgICAgMCAgIDEwMCUgICAgL3Byb2MNCi9kZXYv YWQwczEgICAgMjYxNjI5NiAgMjUyNzAyNCAgICA4OTI3MiAgICA5NyUgICAg L2ZhdC1jDQo= --0-791534744-987392881=:835-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 20:59: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sapphire.hypostasis.com (210-54-89-147.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.54.89.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B3837B424 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:58:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kit@hypostasis.com) Received: from amethyst.hypostasis.com (amethyst.hypostasis.com [192.168.2.2]) by sapphire.hypostasis.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3G3agO02723 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:36:42 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from kit@amethyst.hypostasis.com) Received: (from kit@localhost) by amethyst.hypostasis.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3G48Xc36117 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:08:33 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from kit) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:08:32 +1200 From: kit To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: OpenSSL certificate signing Message-ID: <20010416160832.A35693@amethyst.hypostasis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I was looking for the CA.pl et al. to sign a certificate for internal use. In the process I discovered that also the man pages were selective in their install - OK that seems to be controlled by #WANT_OPENSSL_MANPAGES= true which points out that it overwrites some system manpages. OK Next step try the modssl port (A sneaky feeling that the openssl one was not a goer) as the mod ssl page keeps coming up as the resource on certificate signing. But I need to do it as a part of the apache+modssl port - maybe later I try a make extract on the openssl port - forbidden openssl already installed. Ok Ok I guessed that already :) poking around in /usr/src/crypto seems to indicate that all the bits are there, but just not installed. Hmm. Nothing in /etc/defaults/make.conf seems relevant. This seems to indicate that I'm probably taking the wrong approach especially when I note the dates in CA.sh Apr-96. I'm 95 years too early. So what is the best way to sign the certificates? Is it that the commandline tool is it in its bare bones? Or that there is another tool hidden somewhere (probably in plain sight) Or is the FreeBSD openssl config more suitable to signing than the bare original? I guess the next step is a make extract on apache+modssl to have a look at sign.sh. Any pointers or references to current documnetation would be greatly appreciated, --kit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 21: 4:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13706.mail.yahoo.com (web13706.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38A6B37B43C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:04:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_stuff@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010416040426.56477.qmail@web13706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.111.4.235] by web13706.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:04:26 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:04:26 -0700 (PDT) From: - - To: a , b , INVALID_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 21:11:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13702.mail.yahoo.com (web13702.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41E4437B43E for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_stuff@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010416041150.19047.qmail@web13702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.111.4.235] by web13702.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:11:50 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:11:50 -0700 (PDT) From: - - Subject: how to modify the view of Xwindow? To: a , b , INVALID_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I'm wondering how I can change the configuration of display property of X Window. Mine is set to 8bit per Pixel with 640x480 by default. I'd like to change it to 24or32bit per pixel with 1024x768. How do I do that without re-configuring for X? In another words, is there any way of only chaning of above configuration like Windowz? TIA, kero __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 21:21:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13701.mail.yahoo.com (web13701.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E805B37B43E for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:21:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_stuff@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010416042146.61087.qmail@web13701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.111.4.235] by web13701.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:21:46 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:21:46 -0700 (PDT) From: - - To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi all, I'm wondering how I can modify the configuration of display property (of Xwindow). Mine is set to 8bit per pixel with 640x480 by default. I'd like to change it to 24/32bit per pixel with 1024x768 without re-configuraing the X (using XF86Setup or xf86config). In another words, like Windowz, is there any way to change only those properties? Any comments or helps are appreciated! TIA, kero __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 21:25:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13706.mail.yahoo.com (web13706.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC47F37B43C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:25:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_stuff@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010416042518.62073.qmail@web13706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.111.4.235] by web13706.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:25:18 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:25:18 -0700 (PDT) From: - - Subject: which server should I pick for my card? To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi all, Has anyone out there successfully run X on a machine with 32MB DDR nVidia GeForce2 GTS 4x APG Graphic Card? I'm having problem choosing a X server. Which server should I choose for this card? The generic XF86-SVGA or something else? Any comments or helps are appreciated! TIA, kero __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 21:32: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B64837B424 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:32:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 19877 invoked by uid 100); 16 Apr 2001 04:32:02 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15066.30146.14964.766403@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:32:02 -0500 To: damon blom Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: move / and /usr from drive 1 to drive 2 In-Reply-To: <74308823@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG damon blom types: > This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, > while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. > Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. Please don't do this on -questions. More people will read your question if you just send plain text. > --0-791534744-987392881=:835 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Hi > I have NEC pc freebsd 4.2 stable. 10 meg and 40 meg hard disk. > I added 2 nd hard drive and used "cheat sheet" to put /var on drive 2 (all > freebsd). > drive 1: DOS : fat-c > freebsd: / , /usr, /proc, swap > drive 2: freebsd > /var > /backup > I would like to move /, /usr, /proc & swap to drive 2 so all of DOS on > drive 1 and all freebsd on drive 2. Could anyone please tell me how to do > it step by step cheat sheet style? > Thank you so much > Damon You can find one in the FAQ at . > --0-791534744-987392881=:835 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=xxx > Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 > Content-ID: > Content-Description: > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=xxx > > RmlsZXN5c3RlbSAgMUstYmxvY2tzICAgICBVc2VkICAgIEF2YWlsIENhcGFj > aXR5ICBNb3VudGVkIG9uDQovZGV2L2FkMHMyYSAgICAgOTkxODMgICAgODY5 > MzggICAgIDQzMTEgICAgOTUlICAgIC8NCi9kZXYvYWQwczJnICAgICAgMzkz > NSAgICAgICAgMSAgICAgMzYyMCAgICAgMCUgICAgL3Byb2MNCi9kZXYvYWQw > czJlICAgNTE2MDQ3NyAgNDIxNDA3OSAgIDUzMzU2MCAgICA4OSUgICAgL3Vz > cg0KL2Rldi93ZDFzMWUgIDMxNzU5OTY4ICA0MDQyNjYxIDI1MTc2NTEwICAg > IDE0JSAgICAvdmFyDQovZGV2L3dkMXMxZiAgMTA3MjU2MzQgMTA3MjU2MzQg > IC04NTgwNTAgICAxMDklICAgIC9iYWNrdXANCnByb2NmcyAgICAgICAgICAg > ICAgNCAgICAgICAgNCAgICAgICAgMCAgIDEwMCUgICAgL3Byb2MNCi9kZXYv > YWQwczEgICAgMjYxNjI5NiAgMjUyNzAyNCAgICA4OTI3MiAgICA5NyUgICAg > L2ZhdC1jDQo= > --0-791534744-987392881=:835-- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 21:35:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A379437B43F; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:35:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f3G4ZbR20312; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:35:37 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Alwyn Goodloe Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone managed to get microns ClientPro's X going Message-ID: <20010415213537.B976@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from agoodloe@gradient.cis.upenn.edu on Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 10:53:30PM -0400 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Alwyn Goodloe [010415 19:54] wrote: > > We have several systems like our Micron ClientPros running FreeBSD. > > These machines have the Intel 82810E chip in it and what seems forever > there has only been XFree86 drivers for the Linux. > > Is my info out of date?? > > Has anyone found a workaround ?? > > To be honest I'm tired of all the snickering from the Linux guys in my > office. Not haveing X windows running was embarsing, but now I MUST have > it working. > > I know that the XFree86 guys are the ones to bitch to but the last time I > did they seemed to say -- use Linux. > > > Any help, suggestions, etc. Almost all the graphical support in XFree86 is in XFree86, there's probably nothing in there that's Linux dependant. so: 1) ask these snickering wankers for thier XFree config files, they should just work (as long as you have the same version of XFree) 2) make sure you're running the same version of XFree that they are, perhaps you're using XFree 3 while the Linux people have Xfree 4. (XFree 4 is available in ports) 3) or... ask your boss to plonk down ~100$ for a commercial X server: http://www.metrolink.com/ http://www.xig.com/ -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 21:43:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1960137B423; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@tumbolia.com) Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97FF6351; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:43:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:43:03 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt X-Sender: dscheidt@shell-1.enteract.com To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Alwyn Goodloe , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone managed to get microns ClientPro's X going In-Reply-To: <20010415213537.B976@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: :* Alwyn Goodloe [010415 19:54] wrote: :> :> We have several systems like our Micron ClientPros running FreeBSD. :> :> These machines have the Intel 82810E chip in it and what seems forever :> there has only been XFree86 drivers for the Linux. : :Almost all the graphical support in XFree86 is in XFree86, there's :probably nothing in there that's Linux dependant. And, in the event that there's some linux binary-only server for this card, it can probably be run on FreeBSD in Linux emulation. I did this for a VodooMumble, when the only xserver was 3dxf's linux binary one. It just worked, except when my linux module got out of sync. David -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 21:47:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6378937B43F for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:47:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3G4lJk29650; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:47:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Kal Torak" , "Ben Smithurst" , "FreeBSD-questions" Subject: RE: Creating EXACT image of a CD Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:47:19 -0700 Message-ID: <003001c0c630$51c88700$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <3ADA30B7.910C3921@quake.com.au> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kal Torak > >In my country its a consumers right to be able to make a backup >copy... They >seem to be making it very hard to use this right... > Are they making it hard to exercise your right to NOT purchase their software to begin with? Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 21:50:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E08537B422; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:50:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3G4onk29666; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:50:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , , Cc: "Mike Meyer" , Subject: RE: Printer madness... Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:50:49 -0700 Message-ID: <003101c0c630$cecf5d00$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <01041516133803.00452@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Michael O'Henly > > >On Saturday 14 April 2001 23:16, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> The /etc/printcap file needs to be _exactly_ correct, and I >> mean exact - one wrong character and it won't work. > >Thanks to Ted, Mike, and Scott for help with this. I'm embarassed to admit >that your first guess, Ted, was correct. I wouldn't have been able to guess what the problem was if it hadn't happened to me before. :-) Fortunately, it didn't take that long for me to figure out, but I've also had the same problem with BIND zone files, which are very particular also. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 21:53:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from front003.cluster1.charter.net (outbound.charter.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4D337B424 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:53:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wweems@fix.net) Received: from [63.151.73.123] (HELO weena) by front003.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.3) with SMTP id 25543854 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:53:08 -0400 Message-ID: <00f601c0c632$a3435fe0$7b49973f@weena> From: "wes weems" To: Subject: NFS and FIle Locking Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:03:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok.... I currently work at an ISP in central california. My question is this.... I currently am using a heavy duty freebsd box as a poor mans net app (basically a central file server that other servers feed off). I have NFS all set up, and systems in place to use the storage. I guess my question is this... a concern a guy brought up, was freebsd+nfs+file locking. Supposedly not too many implementations of NFS support file locking, or support it well. I basically plan on having all data (mail/account info, etc) on the main storage unit... and have mail/web/shell/accounting servers "feeding" off of it. I just wanna prevent data loss from occuring. Is anyone using freebsd in a similar manner, and if so, has anyone seen any odd file behavior? This system is a: pIII 900 160gb raid array 1g ram running freebsd 4.3beta (thanks to cvs up) =) Thanks sooo much in advance, Weston Weems To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 21:59:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDE537B43E for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:59:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3G4x0k29696; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:59:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mike Dorin" , Subject: RE: Memory Tools for FreeBSD? Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:59:00 -0700 Message-ID: <003401c0c631$f3210ae0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've found that there's only one way to really know if your memory is up to snuff - put it into a SIMM/DIMM tester. Even then, all that will do is tell you that the memory meets it's own specs - it won't tell you if the memory is actually compatible with the system that you put it in. Failing that, what your doing (attempting to compile programs) is a much better test than most of those so-called "pc testing" programs like Checkit and so on. I've seen plenty of systems that passed memory tests but broke on FreeBSD. OS/2 is also a very good memory tester - if you can't boot an OS/2 bootable floppy without it trapping, then bad ram is definitely indicated. What most people do when suspecting bad ram is to take half the chips out, retry the thing that caused it to crash, then see if the problem is still there. If it is, then swap out those chips with the half that you first took out and retry again and see if the problem goes away. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Dorin >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 2:30 PM >To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Memory Tools for FreeBSD? > > >My new freebsd server crashes when I try to build things like ssh. >I suspect it is a memory problem. Are there any tools that could >help me exercise things like memory to be sure? >-Mike >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 22: 5:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0113737B43F for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:05:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3G555k29720; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:05:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: , Subject: RE: shells Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:05:04 -0700 Message-ID: <003601c0c632$cc9bc940$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <15066.759.837259.778764@guru.mired.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Meyer [mailto:mwm@mired.org] >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 1:22 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: questions@freebsd.org; heyjoe@cts.com >Subject: RE: shells > > >Ted Mittelstaedt types: >> Most of the core FreeBSD developers prefer the C shell. There's >> no real technical reason for their preference, they just like >> it better. > >Is it really most? It wouldn't take much more than a small minority to >create the situation we have today, where it's simply to political to >change. > I asked Jordan this question about 2 years ago and that was the answer I got. As you point out, anyone who is a committer could easily change this. I would definitely not choose to be that person, though. :-) Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 22:12:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF19037B43C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:12:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E5D5AA91F; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:11:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:11:09 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Tim McMillen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP48GX file transfer Message-ID: <20010416001109.A53657@cec.wustl.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from timcm@umich.edu on Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 11:09:07PM -0400 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 11:09:07PM -0400, Tim McMillen wrote: > > Hi, > > Has anyone used the kermit or gkermit ports to transfer files to > their HP48G or GX graphing calculators? There don't seem to be any other > tools in ports to use to transfer the files. HP has even GPL'd the > windows program that is all touchy feely and GUIish, but it appears not to > have been ported to anything but windows. In addition to it being GUI > based it does seem to have some actually useful features above the simple > gkermit. Really I don't care about that as long as I can use gkermit and > the serial cable (coming in the mail) to transfer files to my HP. (using > FreeBSD of course.) > If anyone has done it I'd appreciate a bit of help. At the moment > (beginning new career, serious time drain), I can't handle the mail load > on -questions, so if you could please keep me cc'd on any responses I'd > really appreciate it. Thanks a lot. > > Tim Wow, imagine this question popping up right now! I've used kermit to transer files to an HP-49, which is a touched-up 48G. What's amazing, though, is that I just swapped mine for a 48GX with my father (I'm very dissatisfied with the screen and keyboard of the 49). I was going to grab some programs and dump some stuff on there. Here's what you need to do within kermit: set line set speed 9600 set carrier-watch off set file type binary robust send Right before the "send" command, you want to go to the "I/O" menu on your HP48, select "Transfer..." and press "D" to select "RECV" from the menu. You can change the file type to ASCII, also, but don't forget to set the FMT field in the HP48 Transfer screen to ASCII. I've successfully transfered such wonder programs as UFL, Java (the stack), the "Beverly Hills Cop" theme song, and a few games. No troubles, it's just damn slow at 9600bps. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 22:21: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from laxmls04.socal.rr.com (laxmls04.socal.rr.com [24.30.163.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BB537B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwalker@cwalk.org) Received: from cwalk.org (sc-24-24-206-138.socal.rr.com [24.24.206.138]) by laxmls04.socal.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3G5Kv518285; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ramon (oscar [192.168.1.39]) by cwalk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA00503; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:17:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwalker@cwalk.org) Message-ID: <017201c0c634$6b5893a0$2701a8c0@cwalk.org> From: "Caleb Walker" To: "Dru" Cc: References: Subject: Re: IPFW rules Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:16:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This brings me to another question about my firewall. I have windows users that are behind a firewall and DNS servers are on the other side. I notice that windows sends dns queries from some unknown port number to port 53. I have been using keep-state for this to work but I dont like doing that. Is there another way to make sure that DNS queries are passed all of the time? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dru" To: "Caleb Walker" Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: Re: IPFW rules > > Hi Caleb, > > The SSH server listens on TCP port 22, but the client uses any port below > 1023 (if you're using .rhosts for authentication) or any port above 1024 > if you're not using .rhosts for authentication. So it looks like when > you remove rule 64101 you drop your responses. > > Have you tried something like this: > > 64000 allow tcp from any to any 22 in (you also might want to log that one) > 64001 allow tcp from any 22 to any out established > > You won't need the UDP one for port 22. > > HTH, > > Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 22:25:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E75E337B43C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:25:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fasi_74@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO client2) (202.87.102.168) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 05:25:20 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <003d01c0c69a$9a1f7530$a86657ca@client2> From: "faisal" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Mike Dorin" , References: <003401c0c631$f3210ae0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: finding if my nic is working or not Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:27:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How can i find that my card"in my case 3com earthlink 10 mbps ISA" is working or not .. cuase when i try to assingh is a ip addressvia ifconfig it hangs the whole system i have to restart the whole system then... another card on the same machine is working well thanks Faisal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mike Dorin" ; Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 9:59 PM Subject: RE: Memory Tools for FreeBSD? > I've found that there's only one way to really know if your > memory is up to snuff - put it into a SIMM/DIMM tester. > Even then, all that will do is tell you that the memory > meets it's own specs - it won't tell you if the memory is > actually compatible with the system that you put it in. > > Failing that, what your doing (attempting to compile > programs) is a much better test than most of those > so-called "pc testing" programs like Checkit and so on. > I've seen plenty of systems that passed memory tests > but broke on FreeBSD. OS/2 is also a very good memory > tester - if you can't boot an OS/2 bootable floppy without > it trapping, then bad ram is definitely indicated. > > What most people do when suspecting bad ram is to take half > the chips out, retry the thing that caused it to crash, then > see if the problem is still there. If it is, then swap out those > chips with the half that you first took out and retry again > and see if the problem goes away. > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Dorin > >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 2:30 PM > >To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >Subject: Memory Tools for FreeBSD? > > > > > >My new freebsd server crashes when I try to build things like ssh. > >I suspect it is a memory problem. Are there any tools that could > >help me exercise things like memory to be sure? > >-Mike > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 22:27:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.viasoft.com.cn (unknown [61.153.1.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F68F37B424; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:27:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsddiy@21cn.com) Received: from xyf ([192.168.1.204]) by mail.viasoft.com.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA19848; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:24:22 +0800 Message-ID: <005101c0c636$22166300$cc01a8c0@xyf> From: "bsddiy" To: "faisal" , "Andrew Hesford" , "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" Cc: "FreeBSD" , References: <987386205.3ada515dd3520@postoffice.dreaming.org> <20010415210235.A12986@cec.wustl.edu> <00a101c0c68b$cd31ca40$a86657ca@client2> Subject: Re: freebsd in dos extended ? Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:28:36 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know if FreeBSD supports installing into DOS extended partition. installing an OS in a DOS extended partition is dangrous, it can be easily rewritten by DOS utils, if you havn't space to create a partition, I sugguest you use PQMagic like partition utils to shrink existing partitions, then install FreeBSD in new partition. David Xu ----- Original Message ----- From: faisal To: Andrew Hesford ; Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Cc: FreeBSD ; Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 11:42 PM Subject: freebsd in dos extended ? > Hello > > Can freeBSD be installed in a dos extended partition ? > I am having real trouble creating another primary partition .. > on have 1 dos logical partition in my extended .. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 23: 6:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DCD37B43E for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:06:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3G66Dk29878; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mikhail Kruk" , Subject: RE: Hotmail FreeBSD-->Win2k migration Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:06:11 -0700 Message-ID: <003801c0c63b$5644e660$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A couple of comments for you on this. For starters, this really should go into advocacy. Everyone knew that when Microsoft bought Hotmail that they would eventually move as much of it as possible over to Microsoft server products. But, there are several observations that I'll make on this paper: 1) Generally, when people write these papers they start with a list of all the features that they want, and why the new software is going to provide them. They then follow with several paragraphs that explain why the existing "Legacy" software does NOT provide these features. You see, in business in these large enterprise computing environments, most computing decisions that tamper with an existing system are made on a cost basis. In short, unless the existing system is broken (thus failing and losing you money because pissed-off customers are going elsewhere) you would never do a migration like this unless considerable cost justification exists for doing it. In this paper, Microsoft first of all NEVER SAYS that the existing FreeBSD solution _does_not_work_. They never give a shopping list of things that FreeBSD _can_not_do_ and that Windows 2K _can_ do. Instead they ignore this completely - they give reasons for switching, but never come out and say that the existing solution _does_not_ meet those needs. Also, nowhere in this paper is any kind of cost-analysis that shows that they will save any money by doing this. In short, what you have here is a whitepaper on a migration that has no technical reason and no business reason for ever taking place. Clearly, this is an example of the "eat your own dog food" principle in action - rest assured that normal profit-making businesses would never do this migration just to be able to say they are running a different operating system. 2) Note that this paper stated that the actual migration took place from June and July of 2000. However, it does NOT state when the actual _planning_ for the migration commenced. It is reasonable to assume that the planning for the migration actually started in 1997 - the year that Microsoft purchased Hotmail. There were a number of unofficial reports in the press in 1998 by former Hotmail employees that Microsoft attempted to change the site to NT4 and failed. So, your looking at a migration here which has consumed at least 3 YEARS of planning by multiple people - many of them software developers. Nowhere in the whitepaper did I see any costs attached to this. Let me ask you: if 10 software developers that make $250,000.00 a year (I'll assume that because of the visibility of this project that they put very senior people on this project) work for 3 years, how much does that cost? Well, consider that with bennies being 2X the gross salary, I calculate 15 million dollars IN PERSONELL COSTS ALONE. And I don't know if they put just 10 people on this, they probably put a lot more people on it than that. And, note that this is JUST for the migration itself - this cost is OVER AND ABOVE the normal administrative costs of the service. Also, consider that as soon as it became evident that Microsoft intended to gut the FreeBSD section, I would guess that every FreeBSD developer that Hotmail employed that was any good would have bolted. So, on top of that you would have had to press all your Windows developers into service on FreeBSD - so now you have incompetent FreeBSD developers that are running the thing, which I think would have made the migration a lot harder to do. It's also very notable that the operating system that they DID move to - Windows 2000, was being written DURING 2 of these 3 planning years, and furthermore that the SAME company that did the migration, wrote the operating system. The situation is analogous to someone like General Motors deciding to switch from SAP (I assume that they use this) to some other software package, and then writing the entire software package and the operating system that it runs on from scratch. All this proves is 2 things. First is that Windows 2K has probably been enhanced to run Hotmail, and let me say that this is no guarentee that the enhancements to Win2K are going to be applicable to any other businesses computing model. Second, it certainly embodies the adage that if you throw enough money at something, you can probably get it to work. 3) They try a lot to hide this, but they are STILL using UNIX for at least some part of the service. Note these lines buried in the report: "...Scripts to implement the new version of the site code or other software components are pushed out to each machine (through RDIST)...." "...RDIST was the logical choice at Hotmail because the storage machines are still running UNIX and RDIST was already in use..." Also, note the front page of this: "...The original builders of the application created a two-tier architecture built around various UNIX systems. FreeBSD, a UNIX-like system similar to the Linux operating system, was used to run the front-end Web servers that handled login, Microsoft Outlook® Express, and Web-based content delivery tasks. The current network of more than 5,000 servers is organized into about a dozen clusters; each consisting of front-end servers linked to data storage machines..." So, in short, the "Data storage machines" are STILL running UNIX. The "front-end Web servers" WERE running FreeBSD and NOW are running Windows 2K. Hmmm... I wonder what that UNIX is that's running on the data storage systems, is it, could it be, SOLARIS? (In your best Church Lady voice) So, what we have here is a facinating migration that took place from FreeBSD to Windows 2K. Facinating not because of what it says - ie: all the technical details - but because of what it OMITS. The fact that the migration was completed at all is certainly a feather in Microsoft's cap - but all it proves is that yes, it's possible to use Windows 2K to run the front end services for Hotmail. So, now we all have proof that Windows 2K can now do something that FreeBSD was already doing, rather successfully I'd say (consider how successful that Hotmail got to running FreeBSD) In short, Microsoft has been struggling to _live_up_to_ FreeBSD with Windows 2K. So, now they have proven that they can do it - but they have NOT proven that Win2K is _better_. Also, they have NOT proven that this migration has any applicability to any other large FreeBSD or UNIX installation. I'll leave you with one final thought to consider. If FreeBSD is so worthless that Microsoft had to upgrade Hotmail to Windows 2K, then why hasn't Microsoft released all of the CGI and management scripts that were used under FreeBSD to run Hotmail? It would seem that if the existing FreeBSD solution was so poor, then they would want to show the world how much of a hack that the FreeBSD setup was. But, don't hold your breath waiting for this because it will never happen - the reason is that the FreeBSD installation was so GOOD that Microsoft is scared to death of releasing any of that stuff. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mikhail Kruk >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 11:19 AM >To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Hotmail FreeBSD-->Win2k migration > > >Here is the link: >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/migration/hotmail/default.asp > >IMHO it's worth reading. I'd like to hear what people think... ideally >something from people who work/used to work at Hotmail. >Some parts of their description make sense, but others don't. For one I >can't believe their stories about how it's much easier to develop and >debug software on Windows. Of course they probably assigned Windows >developers on the project. >Also here is some math: >While running FreeBSD Hotmail had 3,600 servers. Now it has more than >5,000. It's been less than a year since the transition. Before >transition size of the cluster was 300, after transition -- 400 (of >course it's more of a design issue than a performance indicator, but >still). > >So what everybody thinks? In particular I don't have any experience with >CGI and multithreaded alternatives so I'd like to hear opinions of >experienced people about that. > >[aslo posted to c.u.b.f.m, please cc: to me if replying, I'm not >subscribed] > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 15 23:20:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1510E37B43C for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3G6Jqk29897; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:19:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Forrest" , "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: Please help: -- sis0 : watchdog timeout? Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:19:50 -0700 Message-ID: <004701c0c63d$3defbc00$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Forrest >Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 2:35 AM >To: FreeBSD Questions >Subject: Re: Please help: -- sis0 : watchdog timeout? > > >On 4/12/01 1:54 AM, "Ted Mittelstaedt" is said to >have spake: > >> You don't say what model/type of switch you have which hinders >> troubleshooting. > >It is a Fore Systems ES-2810. However, this behaviour occurs no matter what >kind of port I plug the CAT5 cable into. The Switch doesn't hinder >troubleshooting (not sure why you said that?) > I said that on the off chance that the switch was a 10BaseT one and that you hadn't tested at all on a 100baseT port. >> But, first I'd try using ifconfig to lock both >> interfaces into 10BaseT half-duplex and see if the problem goes >> away or not. >I tried this, using the media options in ifconfig...timeout still occurs >when ports are both "active" and "10-base T UTP." > Oops - I meant both posts as in "the port on the sis0 and the port on the Switch." In short, try going into the Fore Systems management interface and try all of the port speeds - first try locking it into 10baseT half Duplex, then lock the FreeBSD system into 10BaseT half Duplex, then try full duplex on both the BSD box and the Fore box, then 100baseT half, then 100BaseT full. Obviouly the xl0 port has nothing to do with this problem, so don't mess with it. >I am still looking for help on this; Ted, thanks for your reply. >Again, I really appreciate any help anyone can render with this >problem. The >motherboard has the standard SiS 9000 ethernet chip on it, that is the LAN >controller for this on-board LAN port, so it makes sense that it uses the >'sis' driver. When I look online for clues as to how to >troubleshoot and fix >"watchdog timeout" errors on *BSDs and Linux, it looks like several things >can be the cause. I am pretty sure it is a hardware problem with >FreeBSD, if >someone could help me track it down I would be most grateful... > Fortunately, Ethernet cards are cheap, assuming you have the slot for it. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >Cheers >Forrest H. >> >> Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com >> Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide >> Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Forrest >>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:00 AM >>> To: FreeBSD Questions >>> Subject: Please help: -- sis0 : watchdog timeout? >>> >>> >>> A Call for help from the excellence of this list: >>> >>> My FreeBSD box is giving me TROUBLE.... If someone could detect what is >>> wrong, and if it is a bug, please tell me how to submit it to the kernel >>> people... >>> >>> I have two ethernet interfaces, a 3Com 905C-TX that is flawless >so far, it >>> uses the "xl" driver, and an onboard LAN port that was autodetected at >>> FreeBSD install and assigned the "sis" driver. >>> >>> Description of problem: seconds after pluggin' my second ethernet >>> interface >>> into my switch, (also occurs plugged into a Netgear 10BT hub), no matter >>> what cat-5 cable I use(I switched out cables furiously), I get >this message >>> on the console: >>> >>> Mymachine /kernel: sis0: watchdog timeout >>> Then ping yields: >>> Ping: sendto: Host is down >>> (repeats until Ctrl-C) >>> >>> Description of freebsd system: >>> FreeBSD 4.3-BETA, running kernel compiled from sources. >>> >>> Description of hardware: >>> Processor: Athlon 600 MHz >>> Motherboard: ECS K7ASA w/ AGP slot, two PCI Bus Master UDMA >ports, 2 ATAPI >>> ea. >>> RAM: 256 MB PC 100 SDRAM, 3.3V unbuffered DIMMS. >>> ---> Embedded Network interface: >>> >>> Here is the results of /sbin/dmesg: >>> >>> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz >>> Timecounter "TSC" frequency 598839452 Hz >>> CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (598.84-MHz 686-class CPU) >>> Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x621 Stepping = 1 >>> >>> Features=0x183f9ff>> MCA,CMOV, >>> PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR> >>> AMD Features=0xc0400000 >>> real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) >>> config> di sn0 >>> config> di lnc0 >>> config> di ie0 >>> config> di fe0 >>> config> di cs0 >>> config> q >>> avail memory = 126726144 (123756K bytes) >>> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03d5000. >>> Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc03d509c. >>> Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled >>> md0: Malloc disk >>> npx0: on motherboard >>> npx0: INT 16 interface >>> pcib0: on motherboard >>> pci0: on pcib0 >>> pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 >>> pci1: on pcib1 >>> pci1: at 5.0 irq 11 >>> isab0: at device >7.0 on pci0 >>> isa0: on isab0 >>> atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device >>> 7.1 on pci0 >>> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 >>> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 >>> chip1: at device >>> 7.3 on pci0 >>> ohci0: mem 0xefffe000-0xefffefff irq 9 >at device >>> 7.4 on pci0 >>> usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support >>> usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting >>> usb0: on ohci0 >>> usb0: USB revision 1.0 >>> uhub0: AMD OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 >>> uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered >>> xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xd400-0xd47f mem >>> 0xefffdf80-0xefffdfff irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0 >>> xl0: Ethernet address: 00:01:02:87:04:af >>> miibus0: on xl0 >>> xlphy0: <3c905C 10/100 internal PHY> on miibus0 >>> xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >>> pci0: (vendor=0x14f1, dev=0x1036) at 11.0 irq 9 >>> ahc0: port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem >>> 0xeffff000-0xefffffff irq 10 at device 12.0 on pci0 >>> ahc0: Host Adapter Bios disabled. Using default SCSI device parameters >>> aic7850: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/255 SCBs >>> sis0: port 0xcc00-0xccff mem >0xefffc000-0xefffcfff >>> irq 9 >>> at device 14.0 on pci0 >>> sis0: Ethernet address: 00:d0:09:53:6f:82 >>> miibus1: on sis0 >>> ukphy0: on miibus1 >>> ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >>> pci0: (vendor=0x13f6, dev=0x0111) at 15.0 irq 10 >>> fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq >2 on isa0 >>> fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold >>> fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 >>> atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 >>> atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 >>> kbd0 at atkbd0 >>> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem >0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 >>> sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 >>> sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> >>> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 >>> sio0: type 16550A >>> sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 >>> sio1: type 16550A >>> ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 >>> ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode >>> plip0: on ppbus0 >>> lpt0: on ppbus0 >>> lpt0: Interrupt-driven port >>> ppi0: on ppbus0 >>> IP Filter: v3.4.16 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled >>> ad0: 29314MB [59560/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66 >>> acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using PIO3 >>> Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle >>> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a >>> xl0: promiscuous mode enabled >>> sis0: watchdog timeout >>> sis0: watchdog timeout >>> >>> and the result of ifconfig: >>> xl0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 >>> inet <> netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 64.221.116.255 >>> inet6 fe80::201:2ff:fe87:4af%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 >>> ether 00:01:02:87:04:af >>> media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active >>> supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX >>> 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX >>> sis0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 >>> inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 >>> inet6 fe80::2d0:9ff:fe53:6f82%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 >>> ether 00:d0:09:53:6f:82 >>> media: autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active >>> supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX >>> 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none >>> lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 >>> lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 >>> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 >>> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 >>> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 >>> ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 >>> faith0: flags=8000 mtu 1500 >>> gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280 >>> gif1: flags=8010 mtu 1280 >>> gif2: flags=8010 mtu 1280 >>> gif3: flags=8010 mtu 1280 >>> >>> Any other details that help in troubleshooting can be provided >on request. >>> Thank you, >>> Forrest H. >>> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >>> >> >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 0: 5:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F56E37B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:05:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org) Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (cpe-66-1-147-119.ca.sprintbbd.net [66.1.147.119]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA10246 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from adsharma@localhost) by sharmas.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA21909 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:01:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:01:46 -0700 From: Arun Sharma To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: module compilation Message-ID: <20010416000146.A21902@sharmas.dhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have two questions: (a) How do I compile only a subset of kernel modules, rather than all of them, which seems to be the default ? (b) How do I list IRQ allocations ? Sort of like /proc/interrupts on linux. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 0:25:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web612.mail.yahoo.com (web612.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83DCE37B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:25:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from g_mot@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010416072548.1073.qmail@web612.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.221.138.130] by web612.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:25:48 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:25:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jimot Purnomo Subject: networking To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have 3 computers on my network. 1. linux 2. freebsd 4.2 3. microsoft windows. from freebsd, i could ping linux machine. so does linux to freebsd. from freebsd, i couldn't ping my router and my microsft windows. do you know what is the possible problem and solution ? Thank you, Jimmy - __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 0:48:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0615B37B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thunderch1ld@yahoo.com) Received: from adsl-64-172-25-118.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net (64.172.25.118) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 07:48:30 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 00:51:37 PDT From: Mike Makonnen To: "faisal" , "Andrew Hesford" , "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" Cc: "FreeBSD" , Subject: Re: freebsd in dos extended ? Reply-To: thunderch1ld@yahoo.com X-Mailer: Spruce 0.6.5 for X11 w/smtpio 0.7.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010416074834.0615B37B423@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why do you want to install it on a DOS extended partition? Just remove that extended patition and install FreeBSD in the unused portion of the disk. Install the FreeBSD boot manager so you can boot into whichever OS you want to. Mike. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 1: 9:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from jen.netforge.net (134-fw.dsl.bandwidthbrokers.net [206.228.147.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD46B37B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:09:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khtao@netforge.net) Received: from arcane (arcane.netforge.net [206.228.147.126]) by jen.netforge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA59628 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:01:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khtao@netforge.net) Message-ID: <012301c0c64b$d7676be0$7e93e4ce@netforge.net> From: "Kane Tao" To: References: <20010415174744.43227.qmail@web13104.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Apache Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:03:47 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does browsing a specific document work? Like http://www.lan.trini/index.html Assuming you have that document of course and the priviledges on the file are set correctly... - Kane ----- Original Message ----- From: "trini 0" To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: Apache > Hey all. Im trying to get apache to work just for my > lan. It > installed > no problems, I made a config file and it started up > with no problems, > when I try to browse to www.lan.trini from another box > (I dont have any > browser on the box with apache installed), I get a 404 > error. DNS > entries seem to be working. I tried pinging, nslookup > and dig from the > browser box to see if DNS is up and configured right, > and all seems > well. DocumentRoot points to where the *.html files > live. Im stumped. > I installed apache 1.3.19 from ports, and the box is > running 4.3RC. > What could be wrong?? > Thanks all > trini0 > PS Dont reply to this address, as Im not subscribed. > > > httpd running > 217 ?? Ss 0:00.05 /usr/local/sbin/httpd > 221 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd > 222 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd > 223 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd > 224 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd > 225 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd > 247 ?? I 0:00.01 /usr/local/sbin/httpd > > > httpd.conf > #### Section 1: Global Environment > > MinSpareServers 5 > MaxSpareServers 10 > StartServers 5 > MaxClients 25 > MaxRequestsPerChild 10000 > > Listen 192.168.0.2:80 > > #### Section 2: 'Main' server configuration > > ServerAdmin webmaster@lan.trini > ServerName www.lan.trini > DocumentRoot "/usr/local/www/html/apache" > > > Options FollowSymLinks > AllowOverride None > > > > dig www.lan.trini > ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> www.lan.trini ;; res options: init > recurs defnam dnsrch > ;; got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 > ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: > 1, ADDITIONAL: 1 > ;; QUERY SECTION: > ;; www.lan.trini, type = A, class = IN > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > www.lan.trini. 1D IN CNAME hivemind.lan.trini. > hivemind.lan.trini. 1D IN A 192.168.0.2 > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > lan.trini. 1D IN NS hivemind.lan.trini. > > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: > hivemind.lan.trini. 1D IN A 192.168.0.2 > > ;; Total query time: 1 msec > ;; FROM: gladiator.lan.trini to SERVER: default -- > 192.168.0.2 > ;; WHEN: Sun Apr 15 12:54:43 2001 > ;; MSG SIZE sent: 31 rcvd: 100 > > > ping www.lan.trini > PING hivemind.lan.trini (192.168.0.2): 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 > time=0.169 ms > 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 > time=0.212 ms > 64 bytes from 192.168.0.2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 > time=0.367 ms > > --- hivemind.lan.trini ping statistics --- > 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet > loss > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = > 0.169/0.249/0.367/0.085 ms > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 1:14:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from iist.unu.edu (unuiist.iist.unu.edu [192.203.232.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1872B37B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:14:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsy@iist.unu.edu) Received: from olaf.iist.unu.edu (olaf.iist.unu.edu [192.203.232.73]) by iist.unu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04167 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:15:58 +0800 (HKT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:15:42 +0800 (HKT) From: Tian Siyuan To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: X server setup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am trying 4.3-RC2 on a Dell PC with i810E video chip, which seems not supported. How can I get it through? Thanks in advance. Tian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 2:10:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nz.asiaonline.net (etrn.iconz.co.nz [210.48.22.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B532D37B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 02:10:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from g.todd@internet.co.nz) Received: from mail.internet.co.nz (ip-210-48-25-232.asiaonline.net.nz [210.48.25.232]) by mail.nz.asiaonline.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA185240987412231 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:10:31 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:11:20 +1200 From: Glenn Todd To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Umass error suring Kernel compile Message-ID: <20010416211120.A74996@Hawk> Reply-To: g.todd@internet.co.nz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.0.0 Lines: 55 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Help I have tried to compile a new kernel for my 4.2 release install. I get the following error during make buildkernel KERNEL=H1KERNEL I used previously completed a make buildworld. Glenn ----error sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh H1KERNEL cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 vers.c linking kernel umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x1257): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x127d): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x1296): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' umass.o(.text+0x12a6): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback': umass.o(.text+0x12bf): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan': umass.o(.text+0x1309): undefined reference to `xpt_periph' umass.o(.text+0x1312): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x1325): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' umass.o(.text+0x1340): undefined reference to `xpt_action' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x13f7): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' umass.o(.text+0x1415): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach': umass.o(.text+0x1456): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x1477): undefined reference to `xpt_async' umass.o(.text+0x147f): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action': umass.o(.text+0x179d): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x17ad): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb': umass.o(.text+0x18a1): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb': umass.o(.text+0x1918): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1929): undefined reference to `xpt_done' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/H1KERNEL. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 2:21:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.viasoft.com.cn (unknown [61.153.1.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB6E37B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 02:21:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsddiy@21cn.com) Received: from xyf ([192.168.1.204]) by mail.viasoft.com.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA21455; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:18:43 +0800 Message-ID: <000701c0c656$d8e5cd80$cc01a8c0@xyf> From: "David Xu" To: , References: <20010416211120.A74996@Hawk> Subject: Re: Umass error suring Kernel compile Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:22:53 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG see LINT config file, umass need scsi support. David Xu ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn Todd To: Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 5:11 PM Subject: Umass error suring Kernel compile > Help > > I have tried to compile a new kernel for my 4.2 release install. I get the > following error during > > make buildkernel KERNEL=H1KERNEL > > I used previously completed a make buildworld. > > Glenn > > ----error > > sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh H1KERNEL > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual > -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys > -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 vers.c > linking kernel > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': > umass.o(.text+0x1257): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' > umass.o(.text+0x127d): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' > umass.o(.text+0x1296): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' > umass.o(.text+0x12a6): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback': > umass.o(.text+0x12bf): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan': > umass.o(.text+0x1309): undefined reference to `xpt_periph' > umass.o(.text+0x1312): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' > umass.o(.text+0x1325): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' > umass.o(.text+0x1340): undefined reference to `xpt_action' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim': > umass.o(.text+0x13f7): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' > umass.o(.text+0x1415): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach': > umass.o(.text+0x1456): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' > umass.o(.text+0x1477): undefined reference to `xpt_async' > umass.o(.text+0x147f): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action': > umass.o(.text+0x179d): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > umass.o(.text+0x17ad): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb': > umass.o(.text+0x18a1): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb': > umass.o(.text+0x1918): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > umass.o(.text+0x1929): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/H1KERNEL. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 2:35:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7929337B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 02:35:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: from d1o907.telia.com (d1o907.telia.com [195.252.38.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3G9ZHf06260; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:35:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ludd.luth.se (h63n2fls21o907.telia.com [213.66.203.63]) by d1o907.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23393; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:35:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3ADABCBA.5039FADB@ludd.luth.se> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:34:50 +0200 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Organization: Acne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Johnson Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape 4.77? References: <3AD30420.2E2476E1@typhoon.co.jp> <20010414144823.A861@xor.obsecurity.org> <3AD864E2.52D94F38@ludd.luth.se> <20010414112943.A82380@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010415133501.483ec1e9.ahze@ahze.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Aloha! Michael Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:29:43 -0700 > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 04:55:30PM +0200, Joachim Strömbergson wrote: > > > > > fetis:/usr/ports/www> cd netscape47-communicator/ > > > fetis:/usr/ports/www/netscape47-communicator> make install > > > ===> netscape-communicator-4.76 is marked as broken: has a serious > > > security hole, use 4.77 instead. > > > > > > Ok, sounds ok, but *how* do I do it? Apart from using > > > linux-netscape47-communicator? > > > > > > Searching the netscape web page reveals that the latest FreeBSD version > > > is 4.76. > > > > Well, therein lies the problem. If you don't care about the security > > impact of the problem (read the netscape release notes or check > > bugtraq) then feel free to uncomment the FORBIDDEN line until/if > > Netscape release a new native binary. > > > > Kris > > > > I'm not so sure they are going to release another version.. =/ So basically, right now FreeBSD "does not have" (I know, it's not part of FreeBSD) a working version of Netscape4x? Does that mean that 4.3-RELEASE will neither ship with a binary package of Netscape4x or/neither a working stub i /usr/ports/www? Yes, there is always the linux-binary to install, but at least for me, that one have serious problems with the address book. -- Cheers! Joachim - Alltid i harmonisk svängning --- FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight --- Joachim Strömbergson ASIC SoC designer, nice to CUTE animals Phone: +46(0)31 - 27 98 47 Web: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman --------------- Spamfodder: regeringen@regeringen.se --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 2:52:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nz.asiaonline.net (etrn.iconz.co.nz [210.48.22.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E0437B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 02:52:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from g.todd@internet.co.nz) Received: from mail.internet.co.nz (ip-210-48-25-6.asiaonline.net.nz [210.48.25.6]) by mail.nz.asiaonline.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA230110987414708; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:51:48 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:52:03 +1200 From: Glenn Todd To: David Xu Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Umass error suring Kernel compile Message-ID: <20010416215203.A700@Hawk> Reply-To: g.todd@internet.co.nz References: <20010416211120.A74996@Hawk> <000701c0c656$d8e5cd80$cc01a8c0@xyf> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <000701c0c656$d8e5cd80$cc01a8c0@xyf>; from bsddiy@21cn.com on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 21:22:53 +1200 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.0.0 Lines: 83 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Thanks, read the LINT file and found my error. Now compiled, installed and working. Glenn On 2001.04.16 21:22:53 +1200 David Xu wrote: > see LINT config file, umass need scsi support. > > David Xu > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Glenn Todd > To: > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 5:11 PM > Subject: Umass error suring Kernel compile > > > > Help > > > > I have tried to compile a new kernel for my 4.2 release install. I get > the > > following error during > > > > make buildkernel KERNEL=H1KERNEL > > > > I used previously completed a make buildworld. > > > > Glenn > > > > ----error > > > > sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh H1KERNEL > > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual > > -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys > > -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf > > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 vers.c > > linking kernel > > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': > > umass.o(.text+0x1257): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' > > umass.o(.text+0x127d): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' > > umass.o(.text+0x1296): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' > > umass.o(.text+0x12a6): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' > > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback': > > umass.o(.text+0x12bf): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' > > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan': > > umass.o(.text+0x1309): undefined reference to `xpt_periph' > > umass.o(.text+0x1312): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' > > umass.o(.text+0x1325): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' > > umass.o(.text+0x1340): undefined reference to `xpt_action' > > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim': > > umass.o(.text+0x13f7): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' > > umass.o(.text+0x1415): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' > > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach': > > umass.o(.text+0x1456): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' > > umass.o(.text+0x1477): undefined reference to `xpt_async' > > umass.o(.text+0x147f): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' > > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action': > > umass.o(.text+0x179d): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > > umass.o(.text+0x17ad): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb': > > umass.o(.text+0x18a1): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb': > > umass.o(.text+0x1918): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > > umass.o(.text+0x1929): undefined reference to `xpt_done' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/H1KERNEL. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 3:15:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.a2000.nl (deviet-f.a2000.nl [62.108.1.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68DB37B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:15:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bliekp@cable.a2000.nl) Received: from node1475b.a2000.nl ([24.132.71.91] helo=sisters.cable.a2000.nl) by smtp3.a2000.nl with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 14p62X-0005uf-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:15:25 +0200 Message-Id: <5.1.0.12.0.20010416121100.00a10ac0@192.168.2.1> X-Sender: bliekp@192.168.2.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.0.12 (Beta) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:15:25 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Pim Bliek Subject: problem starting sshd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Last night I did a CVSup + make world for the first time in my life ;-) It went fine. I also did a CVSup of the ports collection. Everything works fine now, except for sshd. When it tries to start it exits with the following message: sshderror: ConnectionsPerPeriod has been depricated! Just for completeness, the sequence of events (shortened) on my machine: - installed 4.2 from ISO CD - cvsup to latest STABLE - make world - make installworld - reconfigged my kernel using new GENERIC - make buildkernel - make installkernel - reboot - everything is fine except sshd..... Anyone? Best regards, Pim Bliek _newbie_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 3:17:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tikus-got.org (PMbdg-220.centrin.net.id [202.146.253.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6BD37B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from budsan02@bdg.centrin.net.id) Received: by tikus-got.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 56F80239; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:27:41 -0400 From: budsz To: Jimot Purnomo Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: networking Message-ID: <20010416172741.A1833@bdg.centrin.net.id> Reply-To: budsz References: <20010416072548.1073.qmail@web612.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010416072548.1073.qmail@web612.mail.yahoo.com>; from g_mot@yahoo.com on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:25:48AM -0700 X-Mailer: Beurit-5.2.76 X-Organization: -GeRaKAn BaWAh TaNAh- Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Pada hari Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:25:48AM -0700, Jimot Purnomo menulis: > Hi, > > I have 3 computers on my network. > > 1. linux > 2. freebsd 4.2 > 3. microsoft windows. > > from freebsd, i could ping linux machine. so does > linux to freebsd. > > from freebsd, i couldn't ping my router and my > microsft windows. > > do you know what is the possible problem and solution Well, first u must check again table of ur network with #netstat -rn , at /etc/hosts u must define ur clien ex: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx yyy.com # linux xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx yyy.com # windows xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx yyy.com # freebie please check /etc/rc.conf in the options ur ethernet device and ip_adderess , finally check #ifconfig -a -- budsz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 3:43:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cgmd76206.chello.nl (d9168.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.9.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BD637B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:43:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edwin@cgmd76206.chello.nl) Received: by cgmd76206.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 69BFF1AD; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:43:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:43:18 +0200 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Pim Bliek Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem starting sshd Message-ID: <20010416124318.B16967@cgmd76206.chello.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , Pim Bliek , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5.1.0.12.0.20010416121100.00a10ac0@192.168.2.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.12.0.20010416121100.00a10ac0@192.168.2.1>; from bliekp@cable.a2000.nl on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:15:25PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:15:25PM +0200, Pim Bliek wrote: > Last night I did a CVSup + make world for the first time in my life ;-) It > went fine. I also did a CVSup of the ports collection. > > Everything works fine now, except for sshd. When it tries to start it exits > with the following message: > > sshderror: ConnectionsPerPeriod has been depricated! Is removing the line from /etc/ssh/sshd_config not enough to solve the problem? I don't know if/how this could have done automaticly, I'm an "insert cd and reboot to upgrade" person :-P Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://FatalDimensions.nl.eu.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 3:46:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF8A37B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14p6VN-0000af-00; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:45:13 +0300 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:45:12 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: bliekp@cable.a2000.nl Subject: Re: problem starting sshd Message-ID: <20010416134512.B2022@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, bliekp@cable.a2000.nl References: <5.1.0.12.0.20010416121100.00a10ac0@192.168.2.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l76fUT7nc3MelDdI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.12.0.20010416121100.00a10ac0@192.168.2.1>; from "Pim Bliek" on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:15:25PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 1:41PM up 3 days, 19:46, 1 user, load averages: 0.07, 0.04, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Pim Bliek [20010416 13:14]: writing on the subjec= t 'problem starting sshd' Pim> Hi Pim>=20 Pim> Last night I did a CVSup + make world for the first time in my life ;-= ) It=20 Pim> went fine. I also did a CVSup of the ports collection. Pim>=20 Pim> Everything works fine now, except for sshd. When it tries to start it = exits=20 Pim> with the following message: Pim>=20 Pim> sshderror: ConnectionsPerPeriod has been depricated! Pim>=20 Pim>=20 Pim> Just for completeness, the sequence of events (shortened) on my machin= e: Pim>=20 Pim> - installed 4.2 from ISO CD Pim> - cvsup to latest STABLE Pim> - make world Pim> - make installworld Pim> - reconfigged my kernel using new GENERIC Pim> - make buildkernel Pim> - make installkernel Pim> - reboot Pim> - everything is fine except sshd..... Pim>=20 Pim> Anyone? You did not read the UPDATING process in its entirety. There is mergemaster that you still need to do. It is a very delicate process so take care. For the time being, looking at /etc/ssh/ssh_config and commenting out the line that has ConnectionsPerPeriod will help. After that then run mergemaster as is instructed in the books. HTH -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. "Hi, I'm Preston A. Mantis, president of Consumers Retail Law Outlet. As you can see by my suit and the fact that I have all these books of equal height on the shelves behind me, I am a trained legal attorney. Do you have a car or a job? Do you ever walk around? If so, you probably have the makings of an excellent legal case. Although of course every case is different, I would definitely say that based on my experience and training, there's no reason why you shouldn't come out of this thing with at least a cabin cruiser. "Remember, at the Preston A. Mantis Consumers Retail Law Outlet, our motto is: 'It is very difficult to disprove certain kinds of pain.'" -- Dave Barry, "Pain and Suffering" --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE62s04n7LIsuxjem8RAtSwAJwMtvxmuO9uxu+OileZwsHeLhDfvACgioc6 OXABXiAm8X5yg1+4IfSj9dE= =1u+z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 3:51:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wn4-marvin.wn4.uni-karlsruhe.de (nat-wohnheime.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [193.196.41.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298B737B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:51:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steele@wn4-marvin.wn4.uni-karlsruhe.de) Received: by wn4-marvin.wn4.uni-karlsruhe.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 09EF7CF502; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:51:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:51:45 +0200 From: Benedikt Schmidt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem starting sshd Message-ID: <20010416125145.A1072@cloaked.de> References: <5.1.0.12.0.20010416121100.00a10ac0@192.168.2.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.12.0.20010416121100.00a10ac0@192.168.2.1>; from bliekp@cable.a2000.nl on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:15:25PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:15:25PM +0200, Pim Bliek wrote: > Last night I did a CVSup + make world for the first time in my life ;-) It > went fine. I also did a CVSup of the ports collection. > > Everything works fine now, except for sshd. When it tries to start it exits > with the following message: > > sshderror: ConnectionsPerPeriod has been depricated! Edit your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file (or better see [1]) and remove the line with ConnectionsPerPeriod since the OpenSSH Version in -stable doesn't support this option anymore. > > Just for completeness, the sequence of events (shortened) on my machine: > > - installed 4.2 from ISO CD > - cvsup to latest STABLE > - make world > - make installworld > - reconfigged my kernel using new GENERIC > - make buildkernel > - make installkernel [1] You forgot to do a mergemaster to merge in the new config files. You _should_ really do that after make world because otherwise your binaries and config files get out of sync. (deprecated options, changed defaults ...) > - reboot -- Benedikt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 3:56:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D545B37B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:56:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14p6Qu-0000Z4-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:40:36 +0300 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:40:36 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-Q Subject: Starting JAIL Message-ID: <20010416134036.A2022@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 1:37PM up 3 days, 19:42, 1 user, load averages: 0.10, 0.06, 0.01 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I am only writing to seek views from those already running JAIL Well, I just need some advise with JAIL as far as starting up the JAIL is concerned.I did my fisrt jail yesterday but was wondering how to start the jails everytime I reboot the host server. Do you have a nice way to do it? Some script to automate this? I hate to think I haveto start the JAIl by hand everytime. Secondly, how do you ensure the safety of your jail? I mean it is possible that when i am logged in as root in the host server I can still messup files in the jail, right? the JAIL being a guest system, is there a way to ensure noone can delete/modify those files accidentally? Thank you so much. Happy Easter. -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Iron Law of Distribution: Them that has, gets. --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE62swkn7LIsuxjem8RAt4YAJ9i5qItYhlBJa3rGSyWuTu1tY6HhACeLmJL 2TzvsQJsjRb5m7tuu2ji8Z4= =IEyv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 3:57:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4071F37B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 03:57:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14p6g6-0000eI-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:56:18 +0300 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:56:18 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-Q Subject: Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010416135618.C2022@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="da4uJneut+ArUgXk" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 1:50PM up 3 days, 19:55, 1 user, load averages: 0.06, 0.07, 0.03 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --da4uJneut+ArUgXk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello good people, I'm inheriting some Linux boxes but I don't have 2 lives like many of us. All my life has revolved around FreeBSD. I am now having to migrate users from a Linux box. I have over 3000 of them. I have other applications to move also but that is not an issue. Does someone know a painless way of doing this without having headaches with clients calling about passwords not working etc? The mail is also a though in mbox format. Thanks in advance for the advice. -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Stult's Report: Our problems are mostly behind us. What we have to do now is fight the solutions. --da4uJneut+ArUgXk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE62s/Sn7LIsuxjem8RAmzdAKCuq1qsz9JyO+A7P2oDHoSdkXJGAACaAglF RsVttGOkatfW8f2POPOWV5M= =IrBO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --da4uJneut+ArUgXk-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 4:47: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bdg.centrin.net.id (bdg.centrin.net.id [202.146.253.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D7D37B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 04:46:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hhwibowo@bdg.centrin.net.id) Received: from hhwibowo ([202.146.228.137]) by bdg.centrin.net.id (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f3GBkjt04061; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:46:45 +0700 Message-ID: <000001c0c66a$ffa5c1a0$0100a8c0@hhwibowo> From: "Hendro Wibowo" To: "jeremy buckley" , References: Subject: Re: fdimage on 5.0-current boot cd Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:11:03 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > E:\>tools\fdimage floppies\kern.flp A: it should work on 4.2, it takes some times (almost 3 minute?) on my machine. :-) hendro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 5: 8:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ra.upan.org (ra.upan.org [204.107.76.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AA937B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:08:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Received: from ocsinternet.com (thoth.upan.org [204.107.76.16]) by ra.upan.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3GC6WZ95134; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:06:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Message-ID: <3ADAE26C.AD284476@ocsinternet.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:15:40 -0400 From: Mikel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD References: <20010416135618.C2022@everest.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's a copy of someting that I received one a while ago... Cheers, Mikel -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: converting a linux /etc/passwd to freebsd /etc/master.passwd Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:44:19 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: dan kelley CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010322164027.29414.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> In the last episode (Mar 22), dan kelley said: > has anyone come across a relatively painless way to do this? > > i have a large number of users that i need to migrate, and i'd rather > not have to recreate the entries on the freebsd box by hand. run pwunconv on the Linux end, copy it over to freebsd, run awk < passwd.linux > /etc/master.passwd 'BEGIN { FS = ":"} { print $1 ":" $2 ":" $3 ":" $4 "::0:0:" $5 ":" $6 ":" $7 }' run pwd_mkdb, and you should be set. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Hello good people, > I'm inheriting some Linux boxes but I don't have 2 lives like many > of us. All my life has revolved around FreeBSD. I am now having to > migrate users from a Linux box. I have over 3000 of them. I have other > applications to move also but that is not an issue. Does someone know a > painless way of doing this without having headaches with clients calling > about passwords not working etc? The mail is also a though in mbox > format. > > Thanks in advance for the advice. > > -Wash > > -- > Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., > wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse > Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., > Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. > > Stult's Report: > Our problems are mostly behind us. What we have to do now is > fight the solutions. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 5:28:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A2937B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:28:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E308766D8B; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:28:25 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joachim_Str=F6mbergson?= Cc: Michael Johnson , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape 4.77? Message-ID: <20010416052825.A5289@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3AD30420.2E2476E1@typhoon.co.jp> <20010414144823.A861@xor.obsecurity.org> <3AD864E2.52D94F38@ludd.luth.se> <20010414112943.A82380@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010415133501.483ec1e9.ahze@ahze.net> <3ADABCBA.5039FADB@ludd.luth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ADABCBA.5039FADB@ludd.luth.se>; from watchman@ludd.luth.se on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:34:50AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:34:50AM +0200, Joachim Str=F6mbergson wrote: > So basically, right now FreeBSD "does not have" (I know, it's not part > of FreeBSD) a working version of Netscape4x? 4.76 is a working version, it just has a security hole and therefore won't be enabled in the ports collection supplied with the release or available as a package. You're free to remove the FORBIDDEN tag and build it if you wish. The linux version is the only available version of 4.77, AFAIK. It works perfectly on FreeBSD as far as I can tell, in as much as Netscape for UNIX has ever worked. Kris --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE62uVpWry0BWjoQKURAt7hAJ4965yoNlX0fdnU8LDmGH0JH3DkRgCg8jbB EYb48iXghEDu/V5H2rx/+Wk= =CPOe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 5:40:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-03.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EBFD37B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:40:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from katinka@magestower.com) Received: (qmail 26676 invoked by uid 666); 16 Apr 2001 12:40:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO WSKATINKA) (203.59.188.60) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 12:40:38 -0000 Message-ID: <002101c0c672$0a9237e0$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> From: "Kathy Quinlan" To: Subject: [OT] C programming Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:37:46 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I am sorry if this is not the right forum (please provide directions to correct one if not) I would like to move over from M$ VC++ to C to build apps for FreeBSD where do I send questions on things like how to format the screen etc ? I am on a pension, so buying books atm is out of the question. Any help is appreciated Regards, Kat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 5:50:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from SWCC2.sw.cc.va.us (mailhost.sw.cc.va.us [164.106.192.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCE537B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:50:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ben_Compton@sw.cc.va.us) Received: by SWCC2.sw.cc.va.us with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2X5GSA4N>; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:53:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Ben Compton To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:53:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Ok guys I need some help here with a freaky networking problem. I'm running FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE on a P120 with 64 MB of RAM and roughly 6 GB of online storage. The machine runs great from the console however after a few days of uptime the network connection goes all to hell. I can restart the machine and things are back to normal and it works smoothly on both the console and through SSH and FTP. During the slowdown I can check top to see if any processes are running wild and I don't see anything that is abnormal. And as I said anything done from the console works great no matter what so I think this indicates that it is not a process going out of control. As far as services go I'm running ProFTPd and SSHd as well as sendmail. I'm however noticing some odd connections when I do a dmesg....you can see a clipping below. Why is my DNS server always trying to connect to my server using UDP? Anyway there you go. I thank you for your help in advance. > Connection attempt to UDP 164.106.194.12:2472 from 164.106.192.1:53 > Connection attempt to TCP 164.106.194.12:53 from 61.218.24.2:2561 > Connection attempt to TCP 164.106.194.12:53 from 210.72.122.1:3847 > Connection attempt to TCP 164.106.194.12:53 from 203.242.151.1:3178 > arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to > 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 Connection attempt to UDP > 164.106.194.12:2478 from 164.106.192.1:53 Connection attempt to TCP > 164.106.194.12:113 from 128.173.35.190:3587 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on > tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on > tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on > tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on > tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on > tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on > tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on > tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 Connection attempt to > UDP 164.106.194.12:2519 from 164.106.192.1:53 Connection attempt to > UDP 164.106.194.12:2533 from 164.106.192.1:53 Connection attempt to > UDP 164.106.194.12:2537 from 164.106.192.1:53 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on > tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on > tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 stray irq 7 > arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on > tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on > tx0 stray irq 7 > too many stray irq 7's; not logging any more > arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on > tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 Connection attempt to > TCP 164.106.194.12:111 from 63.148.224.36:4611 arp: 164.106.194.11 > moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 arp: > 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 to 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b on > tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to > 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 arp: 164.106.194.11 moved from > 00:00:1d:21:8a:0b to 00:50:2a:a8:f8:00 on tx0 Connection attempt to > UDP 164.106.194.12:2593 from 164.106.192.1:53 Ben C. Computer Technician Southwest Virginia Community College PO Box SVCC Richlands, VA 24641 Phone: (540) 964-7629 Fax: (540) 964-9307 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.8 iQEVAwUBOtrqlcN2ZWHSyGjHAQGO6wf/d5D/wFa22FB9nsK1bJSCcRblRSbDYJI/ m64cVtk9RdnBvySfw+g93IcG5tFWlm0/TdORSlOs65TRJEIOcMF1tVEzkyOgeJsZ X2lzyJWsC7aNY+8vBeeO0X5GxgOpB5LB7HdH4xtCRACNUnch+Wx7mZGRRmqZQ/pU wd+Q2UvDXR+Q0iGHXATOMj4Q19bal88ymcLDFOrTGQp2HRwXDsr/MCR9oHyx/CBJ HQP1lkS6S5R2+5qAiJ9bJLWe7UTLpdlK5S4C2EYp+eATixVqRbHDjPj/JbsLpkaQ k0ezd2HR3Nu/SCyN88Mn+Cj3ZyVRQgTJgLayCrMz3uxmLwnszk5gOA== =0dAS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 5:58:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED0837B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 05:58:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3GE4P367031; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:04:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:04:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: Caleb Walker Cc: Dru , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW rules In-Reply-To: <017201c0c634$6b5893a0$2701a8c0@cwalk.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Caleb Walker wrote: > This brings me to another question about my firewall. I have windows > users that are behind a firewall and DNS servers are on the other > side. I notice that windows sends dns queries from some unknown port > number to port 53. I have been using keep-state for this to work b8ut > I dont like doing that. Is there another way to make sure that DNS > queries are passed all of the time? ipfw add 100 allow udp from any to any 53 ipfw add 101 allow udp from any 53 to any Of course, the prefered method is to probably use keep-state. The 2 rules above are not very secure at all...but they will pass DNS traffic just fine. Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 6: 4:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fileserver.co.wayne.in.us (co.wayne.in.us [208.196.36.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2354737B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryanvm@ci.richmond.in.us) Received: from RYANVM5300 (inobyte.ci.richmond.in.us [208.196.36.169]) by fileserver.co.wayne.in.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA32982; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:04:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ryanvm@ci.richmond.in.us) Message-ID: <000001c0c675$cd1eb970$0401010a@RYANVM5300> From: "Ryan VanMiddlesworth" To: "Mark Woodson" Cc: References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010413110616.02356ec0@192.168.100.3> Subject: Re: IPNAT not working with SOME websites Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:21:23 -0500 Organization: City of Richmond MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Woodson" To: "Ryan VanMiddlesworth" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: Re: IPNAT not working with SOME websites > At 10:59 AM 4/11/2001 -0500, Ryan VanMiddlesworth wrote: > >I have a dedicated Internet connection to a particular box running FreeBSD > >4.2-STABLE that serves as a gateway. The box has two NICs - one to the > >Internet (208.196.36.248) and the other to my internal network > >(10.1.0.0/16). I have setup ipfilter and am using ipnat to masquerade the > >10.1.0.0 addresses as the 208.196.36.248. > > [snipped] > > >Here are my ipnat rules: > > map ed0 10.1.0.0/16 -> 208.196.36.248/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp > > map ed0 10.1.0.0/16 -> 208.196.36.248/32 portmap tcp/udp 10000:40000 > > map ed0 10.1.0.0/16 -> 208.196.36.248/32 > > > >So, what am I doing wrong? I've setup masquerading on Linux a million times > >(using ipchains) and I've never had any problems like this. I'm am fairly > >certain it must be something I'm doing, just because it's such an easily > >reproducible problem that I can't believe no one has ever seen (and fixed) > >it. > > Are you sure it's not your filter rules? That sounds much more like you've > got something confused with your filter. Have you tried commenting out > everything and just putting "pass in all" and "pass out all" to see if that > fixes it? If it does then just add the rules back in one at a time until > you find out which one it is that's breaking it. Your NAT rules don't look > like there's an error in them to me. No, I've set ipf's rules to pass everthing and that doesn't help at all. I've really trimmed the configuration down to the bare minimum to simplify things and it still doesn't work properly. Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 6:13:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from truemetal.org (truemetal.org [206.168.16.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F376D37B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:13:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from universe@truemetal.org) Received: (qmail 20295 invoked by alias); 16 Apr 2001 13:09:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truemetal.org) (213.23.52.204) by truemetal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 13:09:49 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADAEF52.446E2BA2@truemetal.org> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:10:42 +0200 From: universe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick Rogness Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd filters redirect port. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nick Rogness wrote: > > On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, universe wrote: > > > hi list, > > > > my freebsd box is acting as a gateway for my internal private network, > > the connection is made with userland ppp (pppoe) and natd. > > > > natd also forwards packets on the external port 81 to a internal > > machine on port 9192. since i changed from isdn to dsl the other day > > the redirect_port doesn't seem to work anymore and natd (?) is > > filtering the tcp port 81. > > > > > natd is started with: natd -n tun0 -dynamic -redirect_port tcp > > 192.168.0.4:9192 81 which forwards every request on tun0 (external > > ethernet card which connects to the dsl modem) on port 81 to the > > internal machine 192.168.0.4 at port 9192. > > > > > however, when i do a portscan from a external machine it shows that > > port 81 is being filtered as soon as i run natd with the > > -redirect_port switch: > > > > (The 1517 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) > > Port State Service > > 22/tcp open ssh > > 80/tcp open http > > 81/tcp filtered hosts2-ns > > 137/tcp filtered netbios-ns > > 138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm > > 139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn > > > > port 81 should be "open", not "filtered". i configured natd to forward > > requests on port 2345 etc. instead but the effect stays the same, > > every port gets filtered. > > > > ipfw list on the gateway which runs natd shows the following: > > > > 00009 deny tcp from any to any 139 in recv tun0 > > 00009 deny tcp from any to any 138 in recv tun0 > > 00009 deny tcp from any to any 137 in recv tun0 > > 00010 divert 8668 ip from any to any via tun0 > > 00011 divert 1234 tcp from any to any out xmit tun0 setup > > 00020 allow ip from any to any > > 65535 deny ip from any to any > > What is rule 11? Is that somehow tied to the PPPoE setup [sorry > not familiar with that setup]? hi nick, rule 11 is required for the "tcpmssd" daemon to work. tcpmssd is a divert program that adjusts outgoing tcp data so that the requested segment size is not greater than the amount allowed by the interface mtu. (quoted from the port description) without the daemon running i can only access a small amount of hosts/websites. this behavior is caused by pppoe (and the faulty routers, of course). however, i removed the rule and shut down tcpmssd to see if it would change something, but the ports still were filtered... any idea? thanks, markus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 6:23:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-01.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 543C637B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:23:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from katinka@magestower.com) Received: (qmail 17904 invoked by uid 666); 16 Apr 2001 13:23:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO WSKATINKA) (203.59.188.60) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 13:23:01 -0000 Message-ID: <004501c0c677$f5d29380$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> From: "Kathy Quinlan" To: "Ryan VanMiddlesworth" , "Mark Woodson" Cc: References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010413110616.02356ec0@192.168.100.3> <000001c0c675$cd1eb970$0401010a@RYANVM5300> Subject: Re: IPNAT not working with SOME websites Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:20:07 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ryan, does the page come up as a DNS or server error ??? if so try hitting the refresh button, does the page then load ok ??? if so and someone else has fixed this I am looking at this problem and need pointers too. doesn't not happen that often, and seems to be a dummy error message under IE/ NS for a timeout error (I notice it more during heavy traffic on a 56Kbps dialup line :of( Regards, Kat. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan VanMiddlesworth To: Mark Woodson Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 11:21 AM Subject: Re: IPNAT not working with SOME websites > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Woodson" > To: "Ryan VanMiddlesworth" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: IPNAT not working with SOME websites > > > > At 10:59 AM 4/11/2001 -0500, Ryan VanMiddlesworth wrote: > > >I have a dedicated Internet connection to a particular box running > FreeBSD > > >4.2-STABLE that serves as a gateway. The box has two NICs - one to the > > >Internet (208.196.36.248) and the other to my internal network > > >(10.1.0.0/16). I have setup ipfilter and am using ipnat to masquerade > the > > >10.1.0.0 addresses as the 208.196.36.248. > > > > [snipped] > > > > >Here are my ipnat rules: > > > map ed0 10.1.0.0/16 -> 208.196.36.248/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp > > > map ed0 10.1.0.0/16 -> 208.196.36.248/32 portmap tcp/udp 10000:40000 > > > map ed0 10.1.0.0/16 -> 208.196.36.248/32 > > > > > >So, what am I doing wrong? I've setup masquerading on Linux a million > times > > >(using ipchains) and I've never had any problems like this. I'm am > fairly > > >certain it must be something I'm doing, just because it's such an easily > > >reproducible problem that I can't believe no one has ever seen (and > fixed) > > >it. > > > > Are you sure it's not your filter rules? That sounds much more like > you've > > got something confused with your filter. Have you tried commenting out > > everything and just putting "pass in all" and "pass out all" to see if > that > > fixes it? If it does then just add the rules back in one at a time until > > you find out which one it is that's breaking it. Your NAT rules don't > look > > like there's an error in them to me. > > No, I've set ipf's rules to pass everthing and that doesn't help at all. > I've really trimmed the configuration down to the bare minimum to simplify > things and it still doesn't work properly. > > Ryan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 6:27:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CE237B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:27:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mweber@vt.edu) Received: from mail.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.190]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3GDRHu162262; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vt.edu ([128.173.37.10]) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0GBW001GD01BHC@gkar.cc.vt.edu>; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:26:34 -0400 From: Matt Weber Subject: Re: buildkernel problem To: David Banning , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <3ADAF30A.575CB381@vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en,ko References: <3ADA21E8.5A0FA447@vt.edu> <20010416025447.B34199@www3.pacific-pages.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got it to compile. I just had to add this line to my /etc/cvsupfile: src-sys-crypto David Banning wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 06:34:16PM -0400, Matt Weber wrote: > > I just used cvsup to update my source tree and ran: > > make buildworld > > That finished compiling correctly. Then I did a: > > make buildkernel > > Just wondering - did you do the; > > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > config yourkernelname > cd /usr/src > make buildkernel KERNCONF=yourkernelname -- http://www.iAgreeWith.com http://www.ccfvt.org IM: zootsewt ------ "The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace." Numbers 6:24-26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 6:29:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB9D37B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:29:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3GEZlv67185; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:35:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:35:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: universe Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd filters redirect port. In-Reply-To: <3ADAEF52.446E2BA2@truemetal.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, universe wrote: > Nick Rogness wrote: > > > > On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, universe wrote: > > > > > hi list, > > > > > > > > (The 1517 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) > > > Port State Service > > > 22/tcp open ssh > > > 80/tcp open http > > > 81/tcp filtered hosts2-ns > > > 137/tcp filtered netbios-ns > > > 138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm > > > 139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn > > > > > port 81 should be "open", not "filtered". i configured natd to > forward requests on port 2345 etc. instead but the effect stays the > same, every port gets filtered. > > > > > > ipfw list on the gateway which runs natd shows the following: > > > > > > 00009 deny tcp from any to any 139 in recv tun0 > > > 00009 deny tcp from any to any 138 in recv tun0 > > > 00009 deny tcp from any to any 137 in recv tun0 > > > 00010 divert 8668 ip from any to any via tun0 > > > 00011 divert 1234 tcp from any to any out xmit tun0 setup > > > 00020 allow ip from any to any > > > 65535 deny ip from any to any > > >> What is rule 11? Is that somehow tied to the PPPoE setup >> [sorry not familiar with that setup]? > > hi nick, > > rule 11 is required for the "tcpmssd" daemon to work. tcpmssd is a > divert program that adjusts outgoing tcp data so that the requested > segment size is not greater than the amount allowed by the interface > mtu. (quoted from the port description) without the daemon running i > can only access a small amount of hosts/websites. this behavior is > caused by pppoe (and the faulty routers, of course). > > however, i removed the rule and shut down tcpmssd to see if it would > change something, but the ports still were filtered... > > any idea? Did you actually try to see if you could pass traffic on that port, regardless of what your portscanner says? WHen you use redirect_port the BSD machine does not listen() on port 81...where are you running your portscanner from? Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 6:38: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ahze.net (24-216-177-143.hsacorp.net [24.216.177.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B71A37B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahze@ahze.net) Received: by ahze.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE89B6FCB; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ahze.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BD4D1; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:43:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Johnson To: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Cc: Kris Kennaway , Subject: Re: Netscape 4.77? In-Reply-To: <3ADABCBA.5039FADB@ludd.luth.se> Message-ID: <20010416094159.Y3363-100000@ahze.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Joachim [iso-8859-1] Str=F6mbergson wrote: > Aloha! > > Michael Johnson wrote: > > > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:29:43 -0700 > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 04:55:30PM +0200, Joachim Str=F6mbergson wrot= e: > > > > > > > fetis:/usr/ports/www> cd netscape47-communicator/ > > > > fetis:/usr/ports/www/netscape47-communicator> make install > > > > =3D=3D=3D> netscape-communicator-4.76 is marked as broken: has a s= erious > > > > security hole, use 4.77 instead. > > > > > > > > Ok, sounds ok, but *how* do I do it? Apart from using > > > > linux-netscape47-communicator? > > > > > > > > Searching the netscape web page reveals that the latest FreeBSD ver= sion > > > > is 4.76. > > > > > > Well, therein lies the problem. If you don't care about the security > > > impact of the problem (read the netscape release notes or check > > > bugtraq) then feel free to uncomment the FORBIDDEN line until/if > > > Netscape release a new native binary. > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > > I'm not so sure they are going to release another version.. =3D/ > > So basically, right now FreeBSD "does not have" (I know, it's not part > of FreeBSD) a working version of Netscape4x? > > Does that mean that 4.3-RELEASE will neither ship with a binary package > of Netscape4x or/neither a working stub i /usr/ports/www? There is /usr/ports/www/netscape* /usr/ports/www/linux-netscape* /usr/ports/www/bsdi-netscape* I personaly use Linux version of netscape for full FLASH support. =3D) > Yes, there is always the linux-binary to install, but at least for me, > that one have serious problems with the address book. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 6:40: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.franken.de (elvis.franken.de [193.175.24.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D5E37B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tanis@gaspode.franken.de) Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14p9Ea-0004QH-00; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:40:04 +0200 Received: from gaspode.franken.de (lengfeld.core.main.franken.de [193.141.110.4]) by karnickel.franken.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3GDapm90741; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:36:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tanis@gaspode.franken.de) Received: (from tanis@localhost) by gaspode.franken.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f3GDapS02284; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:36:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tanis) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:36:51 +0200 From: German Tischler To: Kathy Quinlan Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [OT] C programming Message-ID: <20010416153651.A2227@gaspode.franken.de> References: <002101c0c672$0a9237e0$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5-current-20010403i In-Reply-To: <002101c0c672$0a9237e0$fe00a8c0@kat.lan>; from katinka@magestower.com on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:37:46PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:37:46PM +0800, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > I am sorry if this is not the right forum (please provide directions to > correct one if not) >=20 > I would like to move over from M$ VC++ to C to build apps for FreeBSD >=20 > where do I send questions on things like how to format the screen etc ? >=20 > I am on a pension, so buying books atm is out of the question. >=20 > Any help is appreciated Check out www.trolltech.com for the QT class library. They have a nice documentation. If you are interested in the console and not X, then "man ncurses" will probably help you. --gt --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: 8grQ2wCALmonHrc+Xl2OXtJO61tSg7Da iQEVAwUBOtr1cr7hO6NLB/FvAQE90wf9FtPpp1EqNMafqBoYprXoxpd6Yrer6WGY tBsaWBa8nA7OmxPtfvfCD8jUOOuoo1VQgzFn9/FdeQ6pAsXc2nkVciw26rBg8qnJ 8SBIacL2CFAYmWCCUTi4qT55RS9pvrVcVH4PHNwk28OGPt4UoIqOkPQXEgvoonbM mbnydF05r+40LbFJAC5xREcs+j4wU+uD9icQNHGLF35EPVoxmXlf5ZcKOQG/LV2p eJ5SsIRrxBxQZwMyqHB8BDfZ0K9m2Qdn3uW4v/sNGD5Hk5dtVuPFiP6B1iclQ8sc 8NqQzerBYjzeU8OrPuca/iThUuwx2AqnjLBtnJkIHAEhOFDs7qM69g== =CJ7j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 7: 5:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from convio.com (alba.convio.com [63.91.81.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DC737B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blake@convio.com) Received: from convio.com (IDENT:blake@davros.convio.com [63.91.81.16]) by convio.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14328 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:00:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3ADAFC0E.810DBFF0@convio.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:05:02 -0500 From: blake@convio.com Organization: Convio X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mylex Raid on 4.2 problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Boot OK, slice the disks Ok, appears to install / and /dev, goes back to config menu, then we reboot. After booting, we get F1: FreeBSD F2: FreeBSD F3: FreeBSD F4: FreeBSD Input: F1 And the OS/interface becomes locked at this point. Anyone have any ideas/help? Server is a VA Linux box with a Mylex 1100 in it.... Blake To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 7:14:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.visgen.com (uu-t1-6.visgen.com [216.94.71.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5445C37B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:14:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@visgen.com) Received: from foobar.visgen.com (bay-auto-38 [10.1.18.38]) by mail.visgen.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA02826 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Scott Augustus Reply-To: scott@visgen.com Organization: Visible Genetics Inc. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: default cipher and passwd Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:14:28 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041610142804.00342@foobar.visgen.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings :-) Can anyone tell me how to change the default cipher for the master.passwd file? I'm also curious as to whether there is a way to change the way the passwd command automagically changes the NIS password instead of the local when YP is enabled? I know you can simply state "passwd -l" but for users who are use to just entering "passwd" I'm sure there will be some confusion and numerous botched attempts. -- Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 7:19:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.a2000.nl (deviet-f.a2000.nl [62.108.1.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE0C37B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:19:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bliekp@cable.a2000.nl) Received: from node1475b.a2000.nl ([24.132.71.91] helo=sisters.cable.a2000.nl) by smtp3.a2000.nl with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 14p9qr-0005R3-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:19:37 +0200 Message-Id: <5.1.0.12.0.20010416161624.00a029b0@192.168.2.1> X-Sender: bliekp@192.168.2.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.0.12 (Beta) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:19:38 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Pim Bliek Subject: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Please tell me if I should post this another list.... Anyone able to get his/her NVIDIA Geforce 2mx to work with XFree86-4 on FreeBSD 4.x STABLE ? I once had it running on my previous OS (SuSe Linux), but that was because NVIDIA provided "drivers" (loadable kernel modules) for linux... Is there such a thing for FreeBSD??? I would love to be able to run it !!! Best regards, Pim Bliek P.S. thanx everybody for the help on my sshd problem ! it doesn't work already but I'm running the make world process again now, but now INCLUDING proper reading of UPDATING ;-) (I was too fast, sorry guys). If it fails after that upgrade I will ask again. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 7:27:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190CD37B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac3.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:root@rac3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.143]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14832; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:27:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac3.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA12314; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:27:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12309; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:27:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac3.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:27:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Pim Bliek Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.12.0.20010416161624.00a029b0@192.168.2.1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You can use it on XFree86 4.0.2 or higher I believe... using the nv driver. However, there is no overlay support or 3d support because nvidia hasn't yet released the FreeBSD version of their linux drivers... Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 8:22:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B0E37B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:22:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3GFJgn50321 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:19:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200104161519.f3GFJgn50321@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: linux fortran compilers? From: "Richard E. Hawkins" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: dochawk@psu.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:19:42 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone else running a linux fortran compiler on FreeBSD? We have two boxes coming--a thinkpad a21p in about 2 weeks, and a dual athlon once it ships--whose primary purposes will be to develop fortran code for bashing numbers. As far as I know, there are no commercial fortran compilers targeted to freebsd (and the free compilers almost implement f77; I need f90 plus one or two f95 features). I'd rather stick with FreeBSD for both boxes (I'll almost surely use the same on both), but does anyone have experience with this? My current data seems to be: 1) Lahey. Price is right, phone supporte, no graphical debugger--deal killer. (I *need* to watch variables while single stepping). 2) Absoft. Expensive, but I spent a lot of time with it a couple of years ago (I ended up a beta tester after some of the strange things I found.) 3) NAG. INtermediate C. No multithreading. NAG library is outrageously priced even for academic use. 4) Portland group. Annual maintennance fee (yuck). Develops mp code. email support. None seem to indicate that they test on freebsd--or even have any idea whether their compiler or built code would run . . . hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 dochawk@psu.edu These opinions will not be those of Penn State until it pays my retainer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 8:37:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02D1237B631 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:37:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fasi_74@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO client2) (202.87.102.168) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 15:37:17 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <003801c0c6f0$157d2e70$a86657ca@client2> From: "faisal" To: , "Andrew Hesford" , "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" Cc: "FreeBSD" , Subject: Re: freebsd in dos extended ? Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:29:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have exceded my partitions limit & cannot delete my extended windoze is on it .. it seems that i am out of luck .... no problem i think its time to buy a new harddrive .... :-) i wish they didnt have this limit of 4 primary partition on a disk ... :-( ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Makonnen" To: "faisal" ; "Andrew Hesford" ; "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" Cc: "FreeBSD" ; Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 12:51 AM Subject: Re: freebsd in dos extended ? > > > Why do you want to install it on a DOS extended partition? > Just remove that extended patition and install FreeBSD in the unused > portion > of the disk. Install the FreeBSD boot manager so you can boot into > whichever OS you want to. > > Mike. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 8:41:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.palnet.com (mail.palnet.com [217.66.226.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E2237B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:41:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mousa@palnet.com) Received: from palnet.com (dogbert.palnet.com [192.116.17.51]) by mail.palnet.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3GFc0096548 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:38:00 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <3ADB2133.F07A3668@palnet.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:43:32 +0200 From: Moussa Dhadha X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Shells Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sir ,,, i have a software working under BSD this software should login from our web server to the mail server to make some changes , like forward and vacations so i need to create a new shell this shell should be secure . my question is how i can create a new shells and add the permission for this shells ?? Thankx for you Help Moussa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 8:43:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nyexch01.starmedia.net (nyexch01.starmedia.net [208.133.204.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D81C37B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pio.prado@starmedia.net) Received: by nyexch01.starmedia.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2XKLSMWZ>; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:42:35 -0400 Message-ID: <945A5180E4D0D311BF620008C7A457B90B716FAA@nyexch01.starmedia.net> From: Pio Prado To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Bind-9.1.1 help Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:42:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C0C68B.DBBB68A0" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0C68B.DBBB68A0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0C68B.DBBB68A0" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C68B.DBBB68A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I installed a copy Bind-9.1.1 from Port Collection on FreeBSD 4.3.rc3 (both installations are new). I am followingTrevin Chow's (see attachment) installation instructions for Bind. I have come accross these 2 errors and am unable to finish. 1- While booting and starting final network daemosI get these errors: /usr/local/sbin/named[171]: coudn't open pid file '/var/run/named.pid': Permission denied /usr/local/sbin/named[171]: exiting (due to early fatal error) 2- After booting and logged in I try to generate (step 3 on Trevin's instructions) a dns key I get this error: dnssec-keygen: failed to generate key rndc./57: out of entropy <> Thx for the help Pio ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C68B.DBBB68A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bind-9.1.1 help

Hi,

I installed a copy Bind-9.1.1 from = Port Collection on FreeBSD 4.3.rc3 (both installations are new).  = I am followingTrevin Chow's (see attachment) installation instructions = for Bind. I have come accross these 2 errors and am unable to = finish.

1- While booting and starting final = network daemosI get these errors:
    = /usr/local/sbin/named[171]: coudn't open pid file '/var/run/named.pid': = Permission denied
    = /usr/local/sbin/named[171]: exiting (due to early fatal error)

2- After booting and logged in I try = to generate (step 3 on Trevin's instructions) a dns key I get this = error:

   dnssec-keygen: failed to generate key rndc./57: = out of entropy


   <<configuring BIND 9.txt>> =
Thx for the help

Pio
  

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C68B.DBBB68A0-- ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0C68B.DBBB68A0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="configuring BIND 9.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="configuring BIND 9.txt" Configuring and getting BIND 9 to work: ======================================= Tested with: FreeBSD 4.3 RC Last tested: April 5th, 2001 Assumptions: -user "bind" and group "bind" have been created with NO login privileges -your named configuration files are in directory /etc/namedb -your named zone files are in a sandbox in directory /etc/namedb/s and it's owner is bind 1. Do an 'ndc stop' and deinstall/Remove previous installations of BIND as necessary. Often, BIND8 binary is installed as /sbin/named. In this case, you don't really need to remove it for simplicity since the BIND9 port will install to /usr/local/sbin. 2. Compile and install the BIND 9 port in /usr/ports/net/BIND9 # make # make install 3. Edit /etc/rc.conf to contain (or modify) named_enable="YES" named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named" named_flags="-c /etc/namedb/named.conf -u bind" note: If you were running BIND 8 previously, the second line above likely would have been: named_program="/sbin/named" In this case, just change it to be "/usr/local/sbin/named". This will be the binary for BIND 9. 4. Create a secure DNS key with dnssec-keygen: # dnssec-keygen -a hmac-md5 -b 128 -n user rndc This will create 2 files in current directory: with extensions .private and .key. Cat one of these files and you will see a KEY string. Make note of it. 5. Create /usr/local/etc/rndc.conf with contents: (Note: we use the KEY generated from step 4 here) key "rndc_key" { algorithm "hmac-md5"; secret ""; }; options { default-server localhost; default-key "rndc_key"; }; 6. Edit named.conf, which should be /etc/namedb/named.conf. Top of the file should read: options { directory "/etc/namedb"; pid-file "/etc/namedb/s/named.pid"; // use sandbox auth-nxdomain no; // default is 'no', but just put to avoid warning msgs /* * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source * directive below. Previous versions of BIND always asked * questions using port 53, but BIND 8.1 uses an unprivileged * port by default. */ query-source address * port 53; /* * If running in a sandbox, you may have to specify a different * location for the dumpfile. */ dump-file "s/named_dump.db"; }; Add these lines before the section for 'zone "."': controls { inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { "rndc_key"; }; }; key "rndc_key" { algorithm "hmac-md5"; secret ""; }; 7. BIND 9 is more strict than BIND 8 and requires the following lines at the top of each of your zone files: $ORIGIN foo.com. $TTL 86400 where foo.com. should be the domain that this zone file is for. 8. Reboot, or start BIND9 with: # /usr/local/sbin/named -c /etc/namedb/named.conf -u bind note: BIND 8 used to accept the option "-g" for which group BIND should run as. This option has been eliminated. 9. You should now be able to issue commands such as "rndc reload" to reload. "ndc" is depracated in BIND 9. For good measure, make the old BIND8 binary non-executable and move them to diff't names. # chmod 444 /usr/sbin/ndc # chmod 444 /usr/sbin/named # mv /usr/sbin/ndc /usr/sbin/ndc.old # mv /usr/sbin/named /usr/sbin/named.old ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0C68B.DBBB68A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 8:47:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com [65.24.0.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263E837B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:47:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@iowna.com) Received: from iowna.com (dhcp065-024-023-038.columbus.rr.com [65.24.23.38]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3GFigf16028 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ADB139B.9679212@iowna.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:45:31 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: freebsd in dos extended ? References: <003801c0c6f0$157d2e70$a86657ca@client2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG faisal wrote: > i wish they didnt have this limit of 4 primary partition on a disk ... :-( Is that a M$ limit or a pc-bios limit? -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 8:50: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.well.com (smtp.well.com [208.178.101.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0F737B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from howardjp@well.com) Received: from well.com (howardjp@well.com [208.178.101.2]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA23619 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (howardjp@localhost) by well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22887 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:50:01 -0700 (PDT) From: James Howard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: NAT with FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to set up a FreeBSD NAT firewall. The external interface (fxp0) has an IP address of 172.25.21.20 (don't ask). The internal (sis0) is 10.1.1.1. I have a PC behind it that is 10.1.1.10. The NAT and all that works fine with these rules: 00100 328030 140010702 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0 00200 578062 181527330 allow ip from any to any 65535 534 67432 deny ip from any to any Now here is the trick. I want 172.25.21.21:25 to magically appear on 10.1.1.10:25. All the documentation I have seen on this says I should have the firewall listening to 172.25.21.21:25 and proxy through, but this changes the source address on the final receiver. But I know this can be done without modifiying the source address since I have done this with Netscreens. But I do not know how with FreeBSD. Can someone whack me with a clue stick? Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 9: 1:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9EA37B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:01:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E628E55407; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D690051610; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:56:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Bill Moran Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: freebsd in dos extended ? In-Reply-To: <3ADB139B.9679212@iowna.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-16, Bill Moran scribbled: # Is that a M$ limit or a pc-bios limit? I think this is the limit of how large the boot block and the partition information section of the hard drive can be. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 9: 6:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fjord.dignus.com (client224-22.ral1.raleigh.intrex.net [209.42.224.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FFC37B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:06:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by fjord.dignus.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3GG5Ou40489 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:05:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id MAA01130 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:06:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <200104161606.MAA01130@lakes.dignus.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 4.2-Release & bad IDE blocks... Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My 4.2-release system suddenly crashed with bad blocks on the ATA drive.... Fsck simply indicates it can't read 3 blocks - but, as I understand it - bad block mapping is now "gone"... (the assumption being that any reasonable ATA/IDE drive isn't going to have this problem.) So - I'd like to at least get the file system mounted so I can recover what is recoverable... but, fsck will never succeed to mark the file mountable... (I could simply force the mount, but that would likely result in a crash again... stifling my recovery efforts.) If anyone has pointers to how to go about this - I'd appreciate it! - Thanks - - Dave Rivers - -- rivers@dignus.com Work: (919) 676-0847 Get your mainframe (370) `C' compiler at http://www.dignus.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 9:12:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03A437B42C; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:12:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10557; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010416121227.A10002@netmonger.net> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:12:27 -0400 From: Christopher Masto To: michael@tenzo.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Printer madness... Mail-Followup-To: michael@tenzo.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000001c0c573$9bc40680$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <01041516133803.00452@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <01041516133803.00452@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net>; from Michael O'Henly on Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 04:13:38PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 04:13:38PM -0700, Michael O'Henly wrote: > So after, say, eight hours of accumulated effort I started writing another > plea for assistance to the list and began by inserting /etc/printcap into > kmail. Lo and behold, at the end of the last line there were a bunch of > garbage characters that were not visible in xemacs! I opened the file in vi > (where the garbage chars were also not visible), deleted and reentered the > last line -- and now it works perfectly. > > I'd hate to say that the moral of this story is not to trust xemacs. If you > can't trust xemacs, what hope is there for humanity...? I would love to have a copy of that file. I use XEmacs all the time and have never seen that behavior - I'd like to know what to watch out for. -- Christopher Masto Senior Network Monkey NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 9:16:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (c004-h028.c004.sfo.cp.net [209.228.13.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 061EB37B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:16:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from FJU@Fritzilldo.com) Received: (cpmta 20217 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2001 09:16:14 -0700 Received: from 209-6-191-48.c6-0.wth-ubr2.sbo-wth.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO fritzilldo) (209.6.191.48) by smtp.namezero.com (209.228.13.45) with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 09:16:14 -0700 X-Sent: 16 Apr 2001 16:16:14 GMT Message-ID: <001201bfa888$3e1c1670$6401a8c0@fritzilldo> From: "Christopher J. Umina" To: Subject: FTP Accounts Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:16:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFA866.B60E6330" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFA866.B60E6330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Is there any way to make FTP-Only accounts on the server? I have = users but some I don't want to have shell access.. Best Regards, Christopher J. Umina ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFA866.B60E6330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
    Is = there any way=20 to make FTP-Only accounts on the server?  I have users but some I = don't=20 want to have shell access..
 
Best = Regards,
Christopher J. = Umina
 
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BFA866.B60E6330-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 9:19:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7086737B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:19:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 2A75555407; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190E051610; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:14:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: "Christopher J. Umina" Cc: Subject: Re: FTP Accounts In-Reply-To: <001201bfa888$3e1c1670$6401a8c0@fritzilldo> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2000-04-17, Christopher J. Umina scribbled: # Is there any way to make FTP-Only accounts on the server? I have users # but some I don't want to have shell access.. Just set their shell to /sbin/nologin and that will reject any attempts to login to a shell. You can do that by running: chsh -s /sbin/nologin username -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 9:25:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cluck.stealthchickens.org (cluck.stealthchickens.org [209.192.217.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB14D37B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:25:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mij@osdn.com) Received: from guinness.osdn.com (root@cluck.stealthchickens.org [209.192.217.153]) by cluck.stealthchickens.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3GGPUk86128; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:25:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mij@osdn.com) Received: by guinness.osdn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D86D1112; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:25:25 -0400 From: Jim Mock To: "Christopher J. Umina" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTP Accounts Message-ID: <20010416122525.B5354@guinness.osdn.com> Reply-To: mij@osdn.com References: <001201bfa888$3e1c1670$6401a8c0@fritzilldo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <001201bfa888$3e1c1670$6401a8c0@fritzilldo>; from FJU@Fritzilldo.com on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 12:16:08PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 at 12:16:08 -0400, Christopher J. Umina wrote: ^^^^ It's, uh, actually 2001. Fix your date. > Hi, > > Is there any way to make FTP-Only accounts on the server? I have > users but some I don't want to have shell access.. Install /usr/ports/sysutils/no-login, add /usr/local/bin/nologin to /etc/shells, and set the user's shell to /usr/local/bin/nologin. There are other ways to do it, but this one actually logs to syslog. - jim -- - jim mock - O|S|D|N - open source development network - - http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 9:37:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from netmail.alcatel.com (netmail.alcatel.com [128.251.168.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E192537B440 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:37:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Venkata.Challagulla@usa.alcatel.com) Received: from auds952.usa.alcatel.com (auds952.usa.alcatel.com [143.209.238.7]) by netmail.alcatel.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA12511 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:37:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from usa.alcatel.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by auds952.usa.alcatel.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f3GGbio21438 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:37:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3ADB2438.9438A44D@usa.alcatel.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:56:24 -0500 From: Venkata Challagulla X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Building and installing a new kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have recently installed the release version of freeBSD 4.2. I have made some changes to the kernel. Can you tell me the sequence of operations I need to carry out for building and installing this new kernel Thanks Venkata To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 9:41:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9F337B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:41:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 9876855407; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D1B51610; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:36:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Venkata Challagulla Cc: Subject: Re: Building and installing a new kernel In-Reply-To: <3ADB2438.9438A44D@usa.alcatel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-16, Venkata Challagulla scribbled: # I have recently installed the release version of freeBSD 4.2. I have # made some changes to the kernel. Can you tell me the sequence of # operations I need to carry out for building and installing this new # kernel The FreeBSD Handbook has this information: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 9:41:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A381937B423; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:41:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from scsiguy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3GGeis11580; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:41:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200104161641.f3GGeis11580@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: Alessandro de Manzano Cc: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: memory mapped I/O on adaptec ? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 14 Apr 2001 22:47:07 +0200." <20010414224707.C42900@libero.sunshine.ale> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:40:44 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Hi! > >I've just noticed in LINT the "AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO" option, and I wonder >how much this setting would speed the Adaptec controllers. It depends on how saturated your PCI bus. The MEMIO option avoids some processor stalling when the PCI bus is not very idle. You would likely see a decrease in system time, not an increase in performance. >LINT says also that it's not default because does not work on some >motherboards. There is maybe a list of these of something ? Trying is >the only option I've to know if it will work on my motherboards ? :-) You will know almost instantly if it doesn't work. The controller will freeze up. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 9:43:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5D337B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wtem@olywa.net) Received: from [10.0.0.3] ([65.0.217.10]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010416164315.LVTR24191.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@[10.0.0.3]> for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:43:15 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: wtem@mail.olywa.net Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:43:41 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Walter McGinnis Subject: another natd port forwarding question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everyone, I've been searching the archive and trying different recipes for getting port forwarding to work between a public box and a internal development box. I think I have most things in order, but I still can't get it to work. BTW, I encourage everyone to be better about listing their version number when posting their problem or solutions. I suspect that I have gone down a few dead ends because I followed directions for earlier versions. Anyway, here is my situation: Cable modem talks to a FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE box with two NICs. One for a the cable, one for the LAN hub. Everything works fine except I have a RH web development box on the LAN that I would like to have port 8000 - 9000 be viewable from the outside world. These ports are not used on the FreeeBsd box. I decided to test by setting up port 8003 on the public FreeBsd box to forward to 10.0.0.10:8003 (the RH web development box). On a side note if I am going to use an additional file for natd configuration it seems like I should consolidate all my flags into it (except, of course, the call to the config file). A quick note for for how to include the current appropriate flags in the natd.conf file would be appreciated. I'm obviously missing something: excerpt from rc.firewall ############ # These rules are required for using natd. All packets are passed to # natd before they encounter your remaining rules. The firewall rules # will then be run again on each packet after translation by natd, # minus any divert rules (see natd(8)). # case ${natd_enable} in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) if [ -n "${natd_interface}" ]; then ${fwcmd} add divert natd all from any to any via ${natd_interface\ } fi ;; esac ${ipfw} allow log tcp from any to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 8003 via ${oif} ############ the file rc.conf # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # linux_enable="YES" gateway_enable="YES" router_enable="YES" sendmail_enable="NO" firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="open" firewall_quiet="NO" natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="xl0" natd_flags="-u -m -dynamic -f /etc/natd.conf" tcp_extensions="NO" forward_sourceroute="NO" accept_sourceroute="NO" # -- named_enable="YES" -- # network_interfaces="xl0 lo0 rl0" ifconfig_xl0="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.0" defaultrouter="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" hostname="13A.pinol1.sfba.home.com" # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # keymap="us.iso" /etc/natd.conf interface xl0 redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.10:8003 8003 Thanks in advance for your answers, Walter McGinnis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 9:51:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rgmail.regenstrief.org (rgmail.regenstrief.org [134.68.31.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1674137B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:51:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org) Received: from aurora.regenstrief.org (rgnout.regenstrief.org [134.68.31.38]) by rgmail.regenstrief.org (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f3GGqvA24415; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:52:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3ADB2324.139407E2@aurora.regenstrief.org> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:51:48 +0000 From: Gunther Schadow Organization: Regenstrief Institute for Health Care X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Howard Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NAT with FreeBSD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James Howard wrote: > I am trying to set up a FreeBSD NAT firewall. good for you :-) > The external interface (fxp0) has an IP address of 172.25.21.20 (don't > ask). The internal (sis0) is 10.1.1.1. I have a PC behind it that is > 10.1.1.10. The NAT and all that works fine with these rules: > > 00100 328030 140010702 divert 8668 ip from any to any via fxp0 > 00200 578062 181527330 allow ip from any to any > 65535 534 67432 deny ip from any to any > > Now here is the trick. I want 172.25.21.21:25 to magically appear on > 10.1.1.10:25. All the documentation I have seen on this says I should > have the firewall listening to 172.25.21.21:25 and proxy through, but this > changes the source address on the final receiver. But I know this can be > done without modifiying the source address since I have done this with > Netscreens. But I do not know how with FreeBSD. Can someone whack me > with a clue stick? I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do, but if you want packets kept from being NATed you can put a rule before your rule 100 to exemp packets with 172.25.21.21:25. But I don't know what to say since I'm not sure what you want to accomplish. If you just say ipfw add 99 pass ip then those are not NATed. You then set your routing table such that it forwards the packets to the right interface. I know you can also use the IPFW (or IPF?) as sort of a router by giving specific rules to fast forward a packet out on a certain interface. regards -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow@regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistent Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 9:59:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.well.com (smtp.well.com [208.178.101.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B6E37B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:59:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from howardjp@well.com) Received: from well.com (howardjp@well.com [208.178.101.2]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA21299; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (howardjp@localhost) by well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27726; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 09:59:16 -0700 (PDT) From: James Howard To: Gunther Schadow Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NAT with FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3ADB2324.139407E2@aurora.regenstrief.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Gunther Schadow wrote: > rule 100 to exemp packets with 172.25.21.21:25. But I don't know > what to say since I'm not sure what you want to accomplish. If Hmm, let me try it this way. I want to give a server behind the firewall an external IP address. Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 10: 1: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruraltel.net (mail1.ruraltel.net [24.225.0.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783AE37B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:01:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: from darryl ([24.225.30.197]) by mail.ruraltel.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70800U16000L4200S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:00:20 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Darryl Hoar" To: Subject: routing questions Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:02:42 -0500 Message-ID: <005f01c0c697$0d506db0$0701a8c0@darryl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I am helping a friend install FreeBSD 4.0 on a box at a car dealership. Currently, the internal LAN at the dealership (6 workstations, 1 NT server) has ip assigned (10.x.x.x) and a gateway (10.x.x.70) which routes traffic over a satellite link (way slow). The questions I have are: 1. I want to configure the freebsd box to route internet traffic over a dialup internet link. Can I setup things such that the 6 workstations (PC's Win98) can have to gateways ? I for internet, the other for the Manufacturer apps ? 2. Are 10.x.x.x non-routable ? IE, is Mega Manufacturer already using non-routable ips for their mega network ? BTW, Admin right to the NT Server are not available. (only Mega manufacturer has them, as we peons might screw up their beauty). the whole game here is to provide fast internet access, as the access through the satellite is ALWAYS DEAD SLOW. Thanks, Darryl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 10: 6:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netsys.hn (mail.netsys.hn [200.41.53.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB23437B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:06:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from quintana@netsys.hn) Received: from HPLAPTOP.netsys.hn (support.netsys.hn [200.41.53.58]) by mail.netsys.hn (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA10552 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:06:58 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010416110147.022a0b60@netsys.hn> X-Sender: quintana@netsys.hn X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:02:08 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Pablo Quintana Subject: Test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Testing To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 10:11:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ra.upan.org (ra.upan.org [204.107.76.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B6137B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:11:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Received: from ocsinternet.com (thoth.upan.org [204.107.76.16]) by ra.upan.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3GHACZ96460; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:10:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Message-ID: <3ADB2999.926B976B@ocsinternet.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:19:21 -0400 From: Mikel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Howard Cc: Gunther Schadow , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NAT with FreeBSD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You want static nat...ok that's pretty straight forward; update your natd.conf or rc.natd (whichever it's called on your system) interface fxp0 use_sockets same_ports redirect_address 10.1.1.10 172.25.21.21 Cheers, Mikel James Howard wrote: > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Gunther Schadow wrote: > > > rule 100 to exemp packets with 172.25.21.21:25. But I don't know > > what to say since I'm not sure what you want to accomplish. If > > Hmm, let me try it this way. I want to give a server behind the firewall > an external IP address. > > Jamie > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 10:20:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D7237B443 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:20:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19819; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:20:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:20:32 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Darryl Hoar Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: routing questions In-Reply-To: <005f01c0c697$0d506db0$0701a8c0@darryl> Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Darryl Hoar wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > Greetings, > I am helping a friend install FreeBSD 4.0 on a box > at a car dealership. Currently, the internal LAN at > the dealership (6 workstations, 1 NT server) has > ip assigned (10.x.x.x) and a gateway (10.x.x.70) which > routes traffic over a satellite link (way slow). The > questions I have are: > > 1. I want to configure the freebsd box to route > internet traffic over a dialup internet link. > Can I setup things such that the 6 workstations > (PC's Win98) can have to gateways ? I for internet, > the other for the Manufacturer apps ? Yes. You have one default route (0.0.0.0/0) go to the Internet router. (Your dialup link). Then, you set up another (presumably static) route to send 10.0.0.0/8 to the internal LAN gateway. > 2. Are 10.x.x.x non-routable ? IE, is Mega Manufacturer > already using non-routable ips for their mega network ? Yes, according to RFC1918. Check this with your ISP, though (i.e., remove all static LAN routes for 10.0.0.0/8 and try some traceroutes). Some ISPs incorrectly configure their hardware to pass traffic from private subnets. Some use 10.0.0.0/8 (or one of the other private ranges) for internal routers, etc. > BTW, Admin right to the NT Server are not available. (only Mega > manufacturer has them, as we peons might screw up their beauty). > > the whole game here is to provide fast internet access, as the access > through the satellite is ALWAYS DEAD SLOW. > > Thanks, > Darryl -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 10:46:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netsys.hn (mail.netsys.hn [200.41.53.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F6D37B496 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:46:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from quintana@netsys.hn) Received: from HPLAPTOP.netsys.hn (support.netsys.hn [200.41.53.58]) by mail.netsys.hn (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02878 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:46:40 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010416114129.022aebf0@netsys.hn> X-Sender: quintana@netsys.hn X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:43:01 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Pablo Quintana Subject: 4.2 R or 4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_13850032==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=====================_13850032==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, I have ordered the 4.2 RELEASE CD KIT, but they are already announcing 4.3. What are the core differences? Thanks. Pablo Quintana Gerente de Servicios Dedicados The NetSys Company San Pedro Sula, Honduras, C. A. Tel. : +504 566-1055 Fax : +504 566-3183 Mobile: +504 991-1847 e-mail: quintana@netsys.hn --=====================_13850032==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi,

I have ordered the 4.2 RELEASE CD KIT, but they are already announcing 4.3. What are the core differences?

Thanks.

Pablo Quintana
Gerente de Servicios Dedicados
The NetSys Company
San Pedro Sula, Honduras, C. A.

Tel.  : +504 566-1055
Fax   : +504 566-3183
Mobile: +504 991-1847
e-mail: quintana@netsys.hn
 --=====================_13850032==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 10:49:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0427437B496 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:49:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from phantom (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3GHoHK54559 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:50:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Message-ID: <009e01c0c69d$e847ab30$0f01a8c0@phantom> Reply-To: "Gerald T. Freymann" From: "Gerald T. Freymann" To: Subject: trying make buildworld on 4.3RC3 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:51:46 -0400 Organization: eagle.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Been trying for two days just to do a simple "make buildworld" Biggest problem is, it takes almost 2.5 hours before it barfs. Been catching up on movies ;-) Got me a new playtoy, Dual Pentium Pro 200 CPU's... loaded FreeBSD 4.2-Release, then immediately did a CVSUP on Sunday April 15th to 4.3RC3? I've been getting a wide variety of errors... this is the most recent one: /usr/libexec/elf/ld: final link failed: Memory exhausted That's an odd one. Hell, I have 128Megs of ram onboard... 4 Gig drive with loads of space and good sized swap partition: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 99183 27942 63307 31% / /dev/da0s1f 3473102 756424 2438830 24% /usr /dev/da0s1e 148823 717 136201 1% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc last pid: 22782; load averages: 0.00, 0.32, 0.51 up 0+06:08:35 13:46:11 27 processes: 1 running, 26 sleeping CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle Mem: 13M Active, 77M Inact, 19M Wired, 5468K Cache, 22M Buf, 7452K Free Swap: 345M Total, 345M Free Happens here: cc -O -pipe -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\ " -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sr c/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cccp/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cccp/../cc_tool s -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cccp /../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cccp/../../../../contrib /gcc/config -I/usr/obj/usr/src /i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cccp/../../../../contrib/gcc/version.c cc -O -pipe -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr\ " -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sr c/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cccp/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cccp/../cc_tool s -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cccp /../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cccp/../../../../contrib /gcc/config -I/usr/obj/usr/src /i386/usr/include -static -o cpp cccp.o cexp.o obstack.o prefix.o version.o *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cccp. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I'll clean up the /usr/obj tree yet again, run it again, and post the other error. My /etc/make.conf file contains: CFLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe NOPROFILE= true USA_RESIDENT= YES I've even tried it with no make.conf and no difference. I did a cvsup again this morning, but it mostly caught changes in the ports not /usr/src I did create a custom kernel, but I haven't even got that far so I don't think that's the problem just yet! Any ideas? -Gerry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 10:52:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from babel.acu.edu (babel.acu.edu [150.252.167.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5FF37B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scattered@babel.acu.edu) Received: from localhost (scattered@localhost) by babel.acu.edu (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10545 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:51:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:51:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Cary To: freebsd-questions Subject: console message from /kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got the following message on my console: Apr 15 16:51:26 mykernel /kernel: arp: unknown hardware address format (0x0008 ) Apr 15 16:52:56 mykernel /kernel: arp: unknown hardware address format (0x0108 ) Apr 15 16:53:26 mykernel /kernel: arp: unknown hardware address format (0x0008 ) I did a quick grep through my /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MYKERNEL config file and got: $ grep arp MYKERNEL $ (i.e. nothing) Then a grep through the actual kernel (/kernel) reveiled: $ strings /kernel | grep *arp* arpresolve arp_ifinit arpintrq arp_rtrequest: bad gateway value arp_rtrequest: malloc failed arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for %s%s%s arpintr arp: runt packet -- m_pullup failed arp: unknown hardware address format (0x%2D) /* <--!That's my message */ arp: runt packet log_arp_wrong_iface arp: ether address is broadcast for IP address %s! arp: %6D is using my IP address %s! arp: %s is on %s%d but got reply from %6D on %s%d arp: %s moved from %6D to %6D on %s%d arp: %6D attempts to modify permanent entry for %s on %s%d arptfree arplookup %s failed: %s arpkludge What do I need to change so as to not get this message anymore? the arp(4) man page gave some diagnosic help, but did not list the particular message I am getting. My system is running 4.3-RC, dual PPro, 128MB, Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B on-board network connection. Thank you in advance, Cary Mathews Abilene Christian University ACM Education Committee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 11: 2:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from flashmail.com (flash4.flashmail.com [207.173.216.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C4E837B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nikhild@flashmail.com) Received: (qmail 9286 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2001 18:01:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tempnt) (208.203.87.112) by flash4.flashmail.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 18:01:29 -0000 Message-ID: <00a301c0c68e$e7f08850$7057cbd0@corp.adknowledge.com> From: "Nikhil R. Deshpande" To: Subject: Is release date for 4.3 fixed? Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:04:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am very curious to know if the exact 'release date' for FreeBSD 4.3 release is fixed? If yes, could you please tell me when that will be? (I can see a 'FreeBSD 4.3-RC3' on the ftp sites, and also the release web page says it will be in 'mid April'). If not, how many release candidates are you planning for (approx.)? With best regards, Nikhil To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 11: 7:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net [24.69.46.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293CA37B43C; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (localhost.gv.shawcable.net [127.0.0.1]) by h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3GIA6117379; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; charset="iso-8859-1"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_U4DW1I0B6T8MVOBCGQF3" From: "Michael O'Henly" Reply-To: michael@tenzo.com Organization: TENZO Design To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Printer madness... Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:10:06 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <000001c0c573$9bc40680$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <01041516133803.00452@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> <20010416121227.A10002@netmonger.net> In-Reply-To: <20010416121227.A10002@netmonger.net> Cc: Christopher Masto MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041611100601.17291@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------Boundary-00=_U4DW1I0B6T8MVOBCGQF3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 16 April 2001 09:12, Christopher Masto wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 04:13:38PM -0700, Michael O'Henly wrote: > > So after, say, eight hours of accumulated effort I started writing > > another plea for assistance to the list and began by inserting > > /etc/printcap into kmail. Lo and behold, at the end of the last line > > there were a bunch of garbage characters that were not visible in xemacs! > > I opened the file in vi (where the garbage chars were also not visible), > > deleted and reentered the last line -- and now it works perfectly. > > > > I'd hate to say that the moral of this story is not to trust xemacs. If > > you can't trust xemacs, what hope is there for humanity...? > > I would love to have a copy of that file. I use XEmacs all the time and > have never seen that behavior - I'd like to know what to watch out for. Hi Christopher... Happy to oblige. This is what it looks like when I insert the file into the kmail editor (File>Insert File...). Notice the garbage char at the very end. lp|hp4050|HP LaserJet 4050:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\ :if=/usr/local/libexec/psif:\ :df=/usr/local/libexec/psdf:\ :tf=/usr/local/libexec/pstf:ÿ This what I get when I cut-and-paste from xemacs into kmail. lp|hp4050|HP LaserJet 4050:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\ :if=/usr/local/libexec/psif:\ :df=/usr/local/libexec/psdf:\ :tf=/usr/local/libexec/pstf: And attached is the actual file. Note that it starts out with several commented lines that I haven't included above. Hope this is useful. If you reach any conclusions, I'd be interested in hearing them. 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One for > a the cable, one for the LAN hub. Everything works fine except I have > a RH web development box on the LAN that I would like to have port > 8000 - 9000 be viewable from the outside world. These ports are not > used on the FreeeBsd box. > > I decided to test by setting up port 8003 on the public FreeBsd box to > forward to 10.0.0.10:8003 (the RH web development box). On a side > note if I am going to use an additional file for natd configuration it > seems like I should consolidate all my flags into it (except, of > course, the call to the config file). A quick note for for how to > include the current appropriate flags in the natd.conf file would be > appreciated. I'm obviously missing something: > > excerpt from rc.firewall > > ############ > # These rules are required for using natd. All packets are passed to > # natd before they encounter your remaining rules. The firewall rules > # will then be run again on each packet after translation by natd, > # minus any divert rules (see natd(8)). > # > case ${natd_enable} in > [Yy][Ee][Ss]) > if [ -n "${natd_interface}" ]; then > ${fwcmd} add divert natd all from any to any via > ${natd_interface\ > } > fi > ;; > esac > > ${ipfw} allow log tcp from any to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 8003 via ${oif} > > ############ Umm, should be: ${ipfw} allow log tcp from any to 10.0.0.10 8003 via ${oif} this rule should be inserted after the divert rule. Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 11:13:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail01.domainbank.com (mail.domainbank.com [209.92.184.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E2837B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:13:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdmiller@domainbank.com) Received: from mordor (mordor.domainbank.com [192.168.2.18]) by mail01.domainbank.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.5.186) with SMTP id ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:13:34 -0400 Message-ID: <011f01c0c6a0$f357f9f0$1202a8c0@domainbank.com> From: "Jeff Miller" To: "Nikhil R. Deshpande" , References: <00a301c0c68e$e7f08850$7057cbd0@corp.adknowledge.com> Subject: Re: Is release date for 4.3 fixed? Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:13:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It was supposed to be yesterday (4/15) but I just heard from my colleague that is will most likely be 4/20. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikhil R. Deshpande" To: Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 12:04 PM Subject: Is release date for 4.3 fixed? > Hi, > > I am very curious to know if the exact 'release date' for > FreeBSD 4.3 release is fixed? If yes, could you please > tell me when that will be? (I can see a 'FreeBSD 4.3-RC3' > on the ftp sites, and also the release web page > says it will be in 'mid April'). If not, how many release > candidates are you planning for (approx.)? > > With best regards, > Nikhil > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 11:14:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ibmx3.netnitco.net (ibmx3.netnitco.net [216.176.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D8B37B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:14:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ravishin@netnitco.net) Received: from asdfa (gary-hyper-1-36.netnitco.net [216.176.142.36]) by ibmx3.netnitco.net (8.11.3/8.10.2/062200) with SMTP id f3GIE8u09828 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:14:08 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01c0c6a1$6f4e2340$5101000a@netnitco.net> From: "ravishin" To: Subject: U.S. Robotics 56K Fax PCI Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:16:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 3Com PCI Faxmodem that boasted on the box that it was "100% compatible with Linux" Now I understand that FreeBSD is not Linux, but hey, are we gonna let Linux do something FreeBSD can't? :) What happens in Windows when the modem is first detected, is A. PCI Serial Conroller Found, B. 3Com Internal PCI Faxmodem Found. Windows reports: U.S. Robotics 56K Fax PCI COM5 IRQ 10 I/O Range 9400-9407 This leads me to believe it has it's own serial comm port on the card, thus in windows its reported on com5. What I have tried so far: I rebuilt the kernel with this line: device sio4 at isa? port 0x9400 irq 10 Then, after the kernel was make and booted, I ran sh MAKEDEV all, but it tells me /dev/cuaa4: device not configured. If I'm not going in the right direction please help, and If I am can someone help me along the way. Thanks in advance, Nicholas Leskiw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 11:30:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from vivaldi.ddts.net (96-MADR-XL1.libre.retevision.es [62.175.96.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01F537B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:30:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdiazmartin@vivaldi.dhis.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=rdiazmartin) by vivaldi.ddts.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14p9Fd-0007QO-00 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:41:09 +0200 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:41:08 +0200 (MEST) From: Roberto Diaz X-Sender: rdiazmartin@vivaldi.ddts.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: isa ne-200 irq problems. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi.. I am trying to configure an old 486 box this box has an old isa ne-2000 network card clone.. I am having troubles since the card is not configured with the correct parameters (i/o, irq, etc..) In Linux I have pnpdump.. do I have something similar under freebsd? I have tryed also help pnpscan at system boot.. and pnpscan but it seems it is not being able to find a pnp card attached at the ISA bus.. It strange because the last thing this box had installed was linux.. and the network was working.. I dont remember very well but I think I had no problem and that I was using pnptools.. :?? Regards Roberto ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Roberto Diaz http://vivaldi.dhis.org Powered by GNU running on a Linux kernel. Powered by Debian (The real wonder) Concerto Grosso Op. 3/8 A minor Antonio Vivaldi (so... do you need beautiful words?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 11:41:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [194.205.134.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5F837B446 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:41:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waynep@zaphod.realtime.co.uk) Received: from zaphod.realtime.co.uk ([194.205.134.208]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14pDwX-0001NP-01 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:41:45 +0100 Received: from waynep by zaphod.realtime.co.uk with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14pDwj-000Esf-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:41:57 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mount questions (usb device and mounting as user) Reply-To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Date: 16 Apr 2001 19:41:56 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 69 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, I have 2 questions about mounting things. First one should be the simplest. What do I put in my fstab to allow users to mount devices like cdroms ? Under Linux I just had to add the user keyword to the options and it worked. Second one... How do I mount a Sony CyberShot DSCF505 camera under FreeBSD? I have the following in my kernel config: device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device uscanner # Scanners When I plug the device in and power it up, I get the following in /var/log/messages : Apr 16 19:31:55 ford /kernel: umass0: Sony DSC-F505, rev 1.00/1.06, addr 4 Apr 16 19:31:55 ford /kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Apr 16 19:31:55 ford /kernel: da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device Apr 16 19:31:55 ford /kernel: da0: 150KB/s transfers Apr 16 19:31:55 ford /kernel: da0: 15MB (31744 512 byte sectors: 0H 0S/T 0C) When I tried to mount it, I got the following : Apr 16 19:33:26 ford /kernel: umass0: Unsupported RBC command 0x08 Apr 16 19:33:26 ford /kernel: da0: reading primary partition table: error reading fsbn 0 Apr 16 19:33:26 ford /kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x10, scsi status == 0x0 I was using mount -t msdos /dev/da0c /camera to try and mount it. Then when I powered the camera off and back on, I got the following message : Apr 16 19:34:56 ford /kernel: umass0: at uhub1 port 3 (addr 4) disconnected Apr 16 19:34:56 ford /kernel: umass0: detached Apr 16 19:35:26 ford /kernel: umass0: Sony DSC-F505, rev 1.00/1.06, addr 4 Apr 16 19:35:26 ford /kernel: cam_periph_alloc: attempt to re-allocate valid device da0 rejected Apr 16 19:35:26 ford /kernel: daasync: Unable to attach to new device due to status 0x6 Now when I try and mount it I get msdos: /dev/da0c: Device busy Is it possible to mount this camera as a filesystem under FreeBSD? TIA, -- - Wayne Pascoe E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 11:43:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (dav17.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.22.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6039137B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:43:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from want_2_learn_freebsd@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:43:23 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [64.188.16.62] From: "Doug Wilson" To: "faisal" Cc: References: <003801c0c6f0$157d2e70$a86657ca@client2> Subject: Re: freebsd in dos extended ? Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:43:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Apr 2001 18:43:23.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D7DEFB0:01C0C6A5] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I haven't tried it, but this freeware boot loader claims to allow booting to extended partitions--as many as you'd like: http://www.xosl.org/ Doug. ----- Original Message ----- From: "faisal" Subject: Re: freebsd in dos extended ? > I have exceded my partitions limit & cannot delete my extended windoze is on > it .. > it seems that i am out of luck .... no problem i think its time to buy a new > harddrive .... :-) > i wish they didnt have this limit of 4 primary partition on a disk ... :-( > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Makonnen" > To: "faisal" ; "Andrew Hesford" ; > "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" > Cc: "FreeBSD" ; > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 12:51 AM > Subject: Re: freebsd in dos extended ? > > > > > > > > Why do you want to install it on a DOS extended partition? > > Just remove that extended patition and install FreeBSD in the unused > > portion > > of the disk. Install the FreeBSD boot manager so you can boot into > > whichever OS you want to. > > > > Mike. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 12: 8:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from alto.i-cable.com (alto.i-cable.com [210.80.60.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6469737B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:08:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lkthomas@hkicable.com) Received: from hkicable.com ([61.18.16.156]) by alto.i-cable.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19486 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:08:32 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <3ADB437E.B9A333D2@hkicable.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:09:50 +0800 From: Thomas Lau X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How can I upgrade ports collection at once? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was installed a lot of program like KDE, xfree86-4, licq...etc is it have method to make it auto detect and upgrade itself? it's too troublesome to upgrade by my hand..... Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 12:16:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16ADA37B440 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:16:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from phantom (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3GJHVK68585 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:17:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Message-ID: <020001c0c6aa$17f2ec30$0f01a8c0@phantom> Reply-To: "Gerald T. Freymann" From: "Gerald T. Freymann" To: Subject: trying make buildworld on 4.3RC3 - Post II - more info Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:19:01 -0400 Organization: eagle.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (see previous post for Part I) Ok, 2.5 hours later, here's where it has been typically stopping lately: usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_exit.c: In function `pthread_exit': /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_exit.c:236: warning: `noreturn' function does return /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/gen/sysctlnametomib.c: In function `sysctlnametomib': /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/gen/sysctlnametomib.c:50: warning: passing arg 5 of `sysctl' discards qualifier s from pointer target type ../tmp/ccnY7IB4.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/ccnY7IB4.s:787: Warning: indirect jmp without `*' /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_exit.c: In function `pthread_exit': /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_exit.c:236: warning: `noreturn' function does return cc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 11 I piped the buildworld to a file, so the above is what spills over... below is from the piped output: building shared library pam_skey.so ===> libpam/modules/pam_ssh cc -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto /openssh -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 /usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh/log-client.c -o log-client.o cc -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto /openssh -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 /usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh/pam_ssh/pam_ ssh.c -o pam_ssh .o building standard pam_ssh library ranlib libpam_ssh.a cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../ ../../crypto/openssh -I/usr/obj/ usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh/log-client.c -o log-client.So cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../ ../../crypto/openssh -I/usr/obj/ usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh/pam_ssh/pam_ ssh. c -o pam_ssh.So building shared library pam_ssh.so *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libpam. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. This is the first time I've seen it puke in the pam directories. Yes, I did add the lines to /etc/pam.conf before running buildworld (but that shouldn't prevent a buildworld even if I didn't?) I don't get it. I think I'll clean up /usr/obj again, and just freakin delete /usr/src and cvsup down the source for 4.2-Release and see if I have any better luck. -Gerry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 12:18:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nebula.anchoragerescue.org (cable-115-7-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.7.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C03F37B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:18:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akbeech@anchoragerescue.org) Received: from galaxy.anchoragerescue.org (galaxy.anchoragerescue.org [24.237.7.95]) by nebula.anchoragerescue.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C8F24A9; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:18:15 -0800 (AKDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Beech Rintoul To: Thomas Lau , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How can I upgrade ports collection at once? Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:18:15 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <3ADB437E.B9A333D2@hkicable.com> In-Reply-To: <3ADB437E.B9A333D2@hkicable.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041611181500.69748@galaxy.anchoragerescue.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 16 April 2001 11:09, Thomas Lau wrote: > I was installed a lot of program like KDE, xfree86-4, licq...etc > is it have method to make it auto detect and upgrade itself? > it's too troublesome to upgrade by my hand..... > Thanks Read this: ttp://www.freebsddiary.org/pkg_version.html Beech ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - IT Manager - Instructor - akbeech@anchoragerescue.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Anchorage Gospel Rescue Mission \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | P.O. Box 230510 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99523-0510 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 12:21:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2B437B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:21:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f3GJLDT21555; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:21:13 +0200 (CEST) To: Stijn Hoop Subject: Re: AGP module ? Message-ID: <987448873.3adb46297fd9a@webmail.neomedia.it> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:21:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: Alessandro de Manzano , questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. X-Originating-IP: 62.98.162.115 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You need to do this: > # cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 (1) > # make WITH_MATROX_GXX_DRIVER=yes install > # kldload agp > # kldload mga By the way, I've got a Matrox G400 (32MB, 300MHz). I had read some material in the archives a while ago, and indeed the recipe outlined above makes those steps automatic :-) I would like to add a couple of remarks. 1) Under -CURRENT, DRI no longer works. The modules are not built at all. I seem to understand that DRI is incompatible with SMP stuff (some old syscalls are no longer present). 2) Under FreeBSD-4.3RC, sources as of April 12 (approximately) midnight, kldloading agp and then mga makes the kernel complain about the loading order (which is actually correct); subsequently launching KDE2 just causes the system to reboot. OTOH, if the modules are loaded **at boot time**, the kernel recognizes my card and everything appears to work correctly (at 16bpp, though). YMMV -- Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 12:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C1437B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14pEhI-000BQ5-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:30:04 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:30:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Verify Dump Backups Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How do I verify a tape backup made with dump as part of my nightly backup shell script? I see that restore -t will print the files and the sizes of the files, but I just want to know if what is on the tape matches what is on the filesystem after the dump.. Thanks... Sincerely, Rick Duvall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 12:45:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mlbmx2.corp.harris.com (mlbmx2.corp.harris.com [137.237.90.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170DE37B446 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:45:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpotts@harris.com) Received: by mlbmx2.corp.harris.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2T28A9YV>; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:45:00 -0400 Message-ID: <95B669A7D872D41182A600508BDFFB8C01BECB41@mlbmx7.ess.harris.com> From: "Potts, Ross" To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: adding man pages? Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:44:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG from the CL, how can I make available the manpages that AMANDA (the backup program) makes available all the time? Where does nroff figure into this? Ross Potts Systems Administrator Harris Corporation V: 703-344-1008 P: 800-838-7057 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 12:49: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rm-rstar.sfu.ca (rm-rstar.sfu.ca [142.58.120.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775F637B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:48:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (tmchow@fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by rm-rstar.sfu.ca (8.10.1/8.10.1/SFU-5.0H) with ESMTP id f3GJmpl21583; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFU-5.0C) with ESMTP id MAA06461; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:48:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fraser.sfu.ca: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:48:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow To: Pio Prado Cc: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Bind-9.1.1 help In-Reply-To: <945A5180E4D0D311BF620008C7A457B90B716FAA@nyexch01.starmedia.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To solve your first problem, in your named.conf file, set the PID file to run in the /etc/named/s sandbox directory.\ On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Pio Prado wrote: > Hi, > > I installed a copy Bind-9.1.1 from Port Collection on FreeBSD 4.3.rc3 (both > installations are new). I am followingTrevin Chow's (see attachment) > installation instructions for Bind. I have come accross these 2 errors and > am unable to finish. > > 1- While booting and starting final network daemosI get these errors: > /usr/local/sbin/named[171]: coudn't open pid file '/var/run/named.pid': > Permission denied > /usr/local/sbin/named[171]: exiting (due to early fatal error) > > 2- After booting and logged in I try to generate (step 3 on Trevin's > instructions) a dns key I get this error: > > dnssec-keygen: failed to generate key rndc./57: out of entropy > > > <> > Thx for the help > > Pio > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 12:57:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rigel.pucrs.br (rigel.pucrs.br [200.132.10.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A5F37B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:57:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apolli@pucrs.br) Received: from aegis (aegis.pucrs.br [200.132.13.12]) by rigel.pucrs.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA87431 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:54:46 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from apolli@pucrs.br) Message-ID: <005301c0c6ae$a29d4980$0c0d84c8@pucrs.br> From: "Alexandre Polli" To: "bsd-lista" Subject: web server Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:51:30 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings; I'm going to switch my old linux web server for a FreeBSD one. However, I'm not familair with the BSD installation as I am with the Linux one, so I'm asking a few tips, such as which distribution is best to install, and what software packs should I add. Most certainly Im going to need an ftp server that can hold the users in his own directories (no CDUP) and a web server full of thise nifty resources webmasters like so much, probably apache. Thanks in advance; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 13: 1: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5238737B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:00:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jmslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02147; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:03:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:03:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Alexandre Polli Cc: bsd-lista Subject: Re: web server In-Reply-To: <005301c0c6ae$a29d4980$0c0d84c8@pucrs.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While Linux has many distributionss, FreeBSD only has one: FreeBSD. I would recommend getting FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE. Or, if your daring, 4.3-RC3 :). As for the install, it's really quite simple :) -- Jonathan M. Slivko |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Jonathan M. Slivko | http://jmslivko.datasyrge.net | | Systems Adminstrator, DataSyrge Internet S. | Pager: (917) 388-5304 | | IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network | Fax: None, atm. | | GPG Key Available @ http://home.nyc.rr.com/optix/jmslivko.asc | | FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve! | www.freebsd.org | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Alexandre Polli wrote: > Greetings; > > I'm going to switch my old linux web server for a FreeBSD one. However, I'm > not familair with the BSD installation as I am with the Linux one, so I'm > asking a few tips, such as which distribution is best to install, and what > software packs should I add. > > Most certainly Im going to need an ftp server that can hold the users in his > own directories (no CDUP) and a web server full of thise nifty resources > webmasters like so much, probably apache. > > Thanks in advance; > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 13: 6:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gdmckee.local (pc-62-30-209-11-so.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.209.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD40D37B440 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:06:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gdmckee.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (helo=p300) by gdmckee.local with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14pFGA-000Jay-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:06:06 +0100 Message-ID: <002301c0c6b0$b50dd420$01000001@gdmckee.local> From: "G D McKee" To: "Questions FreeBSD" Subject: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:06:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have been trying to mount a windows share on FreeBSd using SMBFS. Got it compiled and it doesn't seem to work. I have followed the examples. Does any one have a command line prompt to mount the share please? Gordon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 13: 7: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sheppard.torfree.net (sheppard.torfree.net [199.71.188.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC5337B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:07:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ad330@sheppard.torfree.net) Received: by sheppard.torfree.net (Postfix, from userid 4330) id 19A803E6F; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sheppard.torfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1807416 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:06:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Greenspoon To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: web access Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is web access available yet for text browsers or am I doing something wrong? When I login it goes right to email without any of the old menus allowing access to the Freenet general or main menus. thanks for your help Michael Greenspoon ad330 960-1288 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 13: 7:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nebula.anchoragerescue.org (cable-115-7-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.7.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8337037B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:07:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akbeech@anchoragerescue.org) Received: from galaxy.anchoragerescue.org (galaxy.anchoragerescue.org [24.237.7.95]) by nebula.anchoragerescue.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FF274E1; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:07:55 -0800 (AKDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Beech Rintoul To: "Alexandre Polli" , "bsd-lista" Subject: Re: web server Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:07:55 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <005301c0c6ae$a29d4980$0c0d84c8@pucrs.br> In-Reply-To: <005301c0c6ae$a29d4980$0c0d84c8@pucrs.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041612075502.69748@galaxy.anchoragerescue.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 16 April 2001 11:51, Alexandre Polli wrote: > Greetings; > > I'm going to switch my old linux web server for a FreeBSD one. However, I'm > not familair with the BSD installation as I am with the Linux one, so I'm > asking a few tips, such as which distribution is best to install, and what > software packs should I add. > > Most certainly Im going to need an ftp server that can hold the users in > his own directories (no CDUP) and a web server full of thise nifty > resources webmasters like so much, probably apache. > > Thanks in advance; Make sure you install the ports tree. If you're coming from linux you'll find FreeBSD ports joy to install. Beech -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - IT Manager - Instructor - akbeech@anchoragerescue.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Anchorage Gospel Rescue Mission \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | P.O. Box 230510 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99523-0510 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 13:13:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E7F37B446 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:13:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A2639D01DA; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:13:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3ADB5263.23F045F0@urx.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:13:23 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gerald T. Freymann" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: trying make buildworld on 4.3RC3 - Post II - more info References: <020001c0c6aa$17f2ec30$0f01a8c0@phantom> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Gerald T. Freymann" wrote: > > (see previous post for Part I) > > Ok, 2.5 hours later, here's where it has been typically stopping lately: > > usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_exit.c: In function `pthread_exit': > /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_exit.c:236: warning: `noreturn' > function does return > /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/gen/sysctlnametomib.c: In function > `sysctlnametomib': > /usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/gen/sysctlnametomib.c:50: warning: passing arg > 5 of `sysctl' discards qualifier > s from pointer target type > ../tmp/ccnY7IB4.s: Assembler messages: > /tmp/ccnY7IB4.s:787: Warning: indirect jmp without `*' > /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_exit.c: In function `pthread_exit': > /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_exit.c:236: warning: `noreturn' > function does return > cc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 11 > > I piped the buildworld to a file, so the above is what spills over... below > is from the piped output: > > building shared library pam_skey.so > ===> libpam/modules/pam_ssh > cc -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto > /openssh -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 > /usr/include -c > /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh/log-client.c > -o log-client.o > cc -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto > /openssh -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 > /usr/include -c > /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh/pam_ssh/pam_ > ssh.c -o pam_ssh > .o > building standard pam_ssh library > ranlib libpam_ssh.a > cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../ > ../../crypto/openssh -I/usr/obj/ > usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh/log-client.c > -o > log-client.So > cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../ > ../../crypto/openssh -I/usr/obj/ > usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh/../../../../crypto/openssh/pam_ssh/pam_ > ssh. > c -o pam_ssh.So > building shared library pam_ssh.so > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules/pam_ssh. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/libpam/modules. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/libpam. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/lib. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > This is the first time I've seen it puke in the pam directories. Yes, I > did add the lines to /etc/pam.conf before running buildworld (but that > shouldn't prevent a buildworld even if I didn't?) > > I don't get it. > > I think I'll clean up /usr/obj again, and just freakin delete /usr/src and > cvsup down the source for 4.2-Release and see if I have any better luck. Look at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ and make sure that you aren't having hardware problems. The sig11 error in a system build is usually due to memory errors or heat sensitive parts. Some people have found that a fan or some other critical part is failing. Kent > > -Gerry > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 13:23: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13601.mail.yahoo.com (web13601.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D77B737B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:23:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bzdik@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010416202301.10982.qmail@web13601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.16.193.228] by web13601.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:23:01 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:23:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: firewall+router:Free or Open To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, is there any true benefit running OpenBSD vs FreeBSD. The number of patches after releases are out is about the same and upgrading to -stable is a bit different to the point of painful on Open, unless I missed something. Is it possible to have an intelligent discussion on the subj at all? ;-)) I'd go with a hardware solution if it were up to me, btw. Greets __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 13:25:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181DB37B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:25:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9AC70678B4; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:25:28 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Scott Augustus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: default cipher and passwd Message-ID: <20010416132528.A12408@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <01041610142804.00342@foobar.visgen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01041610142804.00342@foobar.visgen.com>; from scott@visgen.com on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 10:14:28AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 10:14:28AM -0400, Scott Augustus wrote: > Greetings :-) >=20 > Can anyone tell me how to change the default cipher for the master.passwd= =20 > file? =20 See login.conf(5) on recent versions of FreeBSD. Kris --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE621U4Wry0BWjoQKURAnspAJ45Ccb4uREvPosW/Il4lK5yN0GJLwCguLs6 RQdm6sQ0Qeq3FSmfYhYyVTQ= =JKvk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 13:26:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795AF37B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:26:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 38C3466D8B; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:26:15 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Pablo Quintana Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2 R or 4.3 Message-ID: <20010416132615.B12408@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010416114129.022aebf0@netsys.hn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5I6of5zJg18YgZEa" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010416114129.022aebf0@netsys.hn>; from quintana@netsys.hn on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:43:01AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --5I6of5zJg18YgZEa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:43:01AM -0500, Pablo Quintana wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I have ordered the 4.2 RELEASE CD KIT, but they are already announcing 4.= 3.=20 > What are the core differences? Lots of them, as always. See the release notes for the release candidate available on the FTP site (don't have an exact URL, look around for it). Kris --5I6of5zJg18YgZEa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE621VmWry0BWjoQKURAr6QAJ4uKNWs/SqtNgyKicqYgYaPGLAwTgCaAq2f OeqVxvpGjcCm6YbYkas0qXM= =Fkgy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5I6of5zJg18YgZEa-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 13:29:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FBA37B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:29:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E9C0355407; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EEE51610; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:24:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: G D McKee Cc: Questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System In-Reply-To: <002301c0c6b0$b50dd420$01000001@gdmckee.local> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-16, G D McKee scribbled: # I have been trying to mount a windows share on FreeBSd using SMBFS. Got it # compiled and it doesn't seem to work. I have followed the examples. Does it error out? Do you have a local account on the Windows machine (not a domain account, mind you) that you can log into? The command should be: mount -t smbfs //user@server/share /mount/point It should then prompt for a password. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:11:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13408.mail.yahoo.com (web13408.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E437637B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:11:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010416211153.36348.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.18.79.227] by web13408.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:11:53 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:11:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gould Subject: revisited - KDE not saving desktop settings To: FreeBSD Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A while back, I posted a message about how KDE running on FreeBSD 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 wouldn't save a normal user's desktop. That is, the icons would appear in the upper left corner each time KDE was started, even though they had been moved in the previous session. A few people, who are also experiencing this problem, have contacted me directly to see if a solution was ever found. The answer, finally, is "yes" - update the sources and install the port of KDE2. (and then when you're tired of waiting for KDE2 to start, just run kfm or other KDE apps from icewm!) Just wanted post a resolution to the problem for the archives. Have a great day! Andrew Gould __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:15: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C4937B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:14:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f3GLEnX36098; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:14:49 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:14:49 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Tommy Rump Andersen Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: compiling problems Message-ID: <20010417091449.C34379@itouchnz.itouch> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tnokker@hotmail.com on Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 11:12:07PM -0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 11:12:07PM -0000, Tommy Rump Andersen wrote: > getting this > > In file included from ../../dev/ata/ata-all.c:60: > ../../isa/isavar.h:36: isa_if.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 Uncomment the `isa' line. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "A person should be able to do a small bit of everything, specialisation is for insects" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:16:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA4D37B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:16:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f3GLGBH36190; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:16:11 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:16:11 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: "Michael O'Henly" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem setting up printer... Message-ID: <20010417091611.D34379@itouchnz.itouch> References: <01041418025500.00678@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01041418025500.00678@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net>; from michael@tenzo.com on Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 06:02:55PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 06:02:55PM -0700, Michael O'Henly wrote: > I'm trying to troubleshoot the difficulty I'm having setting up printing > under FreeBSD 4.2. > > An answer to this question would save me a lot of grief. ;-) > > I have a native Postscript printer (HP 4050) and I've created a simple > Postscript test file using an example from the Handbook. > > The question is: if I'm able to print successfully this way... > > cat printerTest.ps > /dev/lpt0 > > ...does this rule out misconfiguration of the kernel? Yes, although the better way to check would be "dmesg | grep lpt" -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Irrationality is the square root of all evil" - Douglas Hofstadter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:20:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c0039.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4474237B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:20:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA25668; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:20:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3ADB6215.DDCFC41F@nisser.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:20:21 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: Nisser - Nr. 1 in Veiligheid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSL certificate signing References: <20010416160832.A35693@amethyst.hypostasis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kit wrote: > > Hi > I was looking for the CA.pl et al. to sign a certificate for internal > use. In the process I discovered that also the man pages were > selective in their install - OK that seems to be controlled by > ... Yeah, things've changed. There used to be a CA.pl and CA.sh, now there ain't. However, all is not lost: nl:/usr/local/etc/postfix% locate CA.pl /usr/src/crypto/openssl/apps/CA.pl /usr/src/crypto/openssl/apps/CA.pl.in /usr/src/crypto/openssl/doc/apps/CA.pl.pod But don't ask me what I did and did not install ;). Well... "apache+mod_ssl-1.3.17+2.8.0" anywayz. On a 4.2-STABLE. HTH, Roelof -- Home is where the (@) http://eboa.com/ is. Nisser home -- http://nl.nisser.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:27: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8741B37B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14pGWU-000BdN-00; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:27:02 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:27:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: Philip Hallstrom Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Verify Dump Backups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What if I wrote tar to a tape? How could I verify that? I need some sort of solution where I can do level 0 dumps daily, and verify each backup. I tried amanda, but in disaster recovery, it seems like such a pain in the butt to do a base install of freebsd, install amanda, configure it, then run the amrestore program. Probably best to use a simpler solution for what I am doing. Thanks. Sincerely, Rick Duvall On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > I don't know for sure, but I think the file list (restore -t) is kept at > the beginning of the dump so that could be valid, and the rest corrupt. I > think. > > Other then restoring to a dummy partition and comparing, I don't know of > any other way. I periodically manually restore some files just to see... > I suppose you could work that into a script... select a random file each > night from those backed up and restore it, then compare it with the > original. > > Better than nothing... > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Rick Duvall wrote: > > > How do I verify a tape backup made with dump as part of my nightly backup > > shell script? > > > > I see that restore -t will print the files and the sizes of the files, but > > I just want to know if what is on the tape matches what is on the > > filesystem after the dump.. > > > > Thanks... > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Rick Duvall > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:27:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns-exch05.jccc.net (ns-exch05.jccc.net [198.248.56.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE3E37B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ndunker@jccc.net) Received: by ns-exch05 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:24:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: Noah Dunker To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: firewall+router:Free or Open Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:24:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've used both. If I'm gonna make a stand-alone box that's going to be maintenance-free, especially one that I'm not going to be in posession of (like a firewall for a friend or someone less skilled in UNIX and I don't want 'em messing with it) I usually build it off FreeBSD and lock everything down. sometimes I'll put a fake finger daemon on that "draws the finger for them" :) on it. At home, I'm using FreeBSD. I'm moving in with My Fiancee though (getting married saturday!!!) and she's just started running OpenBSD on her firewall and she thinks it's the better way to go. "it's more secure" is kind of a moot point when you are going to shut off EVERYTHING though. ipfw is sooo much slicker than OpenBSD's ipf, and with all the config files for IPFilter on OpenBSD... It's more secure out of the box, but building a firewall/router (especially a PPP/Dialup router) it's just more practical to use FreeBSD to start with, and tweek it as you need... By the way... OPENBSD adorns my license plates on my car... so I'm definitely an OpenBSD/Net-Security zealot, but FreeBSD is just a better starting point for this sort of thing. FreeBSD and OpenBSD are basically one in the same, with different viewpoints taken on kernel development and userland packaging. I'll see how my soon-to-be-wife's firewall works, and I'll definitely be looking forward to getting CableModem in a month or so, when the both of us can afford it! My opinion would probably differ significantly if it were going to be a bastion host or corporate firewall/IPSec-vpn setup. Noah Dunker Systems Analyst/Technician Johnson County Community College -----Original Message----- From: Bzdik BSD [mailto:bzdik@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 3:23 PM To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: firewall+router:Free or Open Hi, is there any true benefit running OpenBSD vs FreeBSD. The number of patches after releases are out is about the same and upgrading to -stable is a bit different to the point of painful on Open, unless I missed something. Is it possible to have an intelligent discussion on the subj at all? ;-)) I'd go with a hardware solution if it were up to me, btw. Greets __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:29: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.total.net (rossine.total.net [154.11.89.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E72FC37B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:29:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cckok00@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 16200 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2001 21:29:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (154.20.95.230) by smtp.total.net with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 21:29:05 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADB6431.8026336@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:29:21 -0400 From: Peter Kok X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I would like to install the following ports in freebsd 4.1 but I couldn't install it (couldn't find the package after make install) /usr/ports/sysutils/ucspi-tcp /usr/ports/security/checkpassword Please let me know how I install it on the port tks regards Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:29:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c0039.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CC737B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:29:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA25702; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:28:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3ADB6418.D9B96B6F@nisser.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:28:56 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: Nisser - Nr. 1 in Veiligheid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Starting JAIL References: <20010416134036.A2022@everest.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I am only writing to seek views from those already running JAIL > Well, I just need some advise with JAIL as far as starting up the JAIL > is concerned.I did my fisrt jail yesterday but was wondering how to > start the jails everytime I reboot the host server. Do you have a nice way > to do it? Some script to automate this? I hate to think I haveto start the > JAIl by hand everytime. > Secondly, how do you ensure the safety of your jail? I mean it is possible > that when i am logged in as root in the host server I can still messup > files in the jail, right? the JAIL being a guest system, is there a > way to ensure noone can delete/modify those files accidentally? Put them into a script and put that script into /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Depending on your release you might need to check the first param for a "start" or "stop" content. You don't. Jail it might be, but it's still chroot() based (granted, I'll be whipped horribly if tell it wrong... but, hey! You only live once ;) and chroot's can be broken out of. Especially when you hand them a shell. HTH, Roelof -- Home is where the (@) http://eboa.com/ is. Nisser home -- http://www.Nisser.nl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:30:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spitfire.velocet.net (spitfire.velocet.net [209.167.225.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB0A37B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ddavid@ican.net) Received: from david.thecafe.ca (H251.C193.tor.velocet.net [216.138.193.251]) by spitfire.velocet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C962519A02C; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: David To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: U.S. Robotics 56K Fax PCI Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:21:57 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: ravishin@netnitco.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041617215700.00433@david.thecafe.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 3COM 56K PCI Performance Pro Modem, not sure if it's the same one or not, but it does work wanderfully. In my kernel-conf i only have: device sio0 at pci? here's an output of dmesg: ahc0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xeb000000-0xeb000fff irq 3 at device 9.0 on pci0 aic7860: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/255 SCBs sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x8 sio0: <3COM PCI FaxModem> port 0xec00-0xec07 irq 4 at device 10.0 on pci0 sio0: type 16550A fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 which the modem shows up on cuaa0: david# comcontrol /dev/cuaa0 dtrwait 300 drainwait 0 Also note, that i do not use the on board serial ports so i have them shut off in the bios, not sure if this will have an effect or not. Cheers David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:31: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4188D37B443 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:31:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id BF51E55407; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7F551610; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:25:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Peter Kok Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: port In-Reply-To: <3ADB6431.8026336@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-16, Peter Kok scribbled: # I would like to install the following ports in freebsd 4.1 # but I couldn't install it (couldn't find the package after make install) # # /usr/ports/sysutils/ucspi-tcp # /usr/ports/security/checkpassword To compile and install a port, run: make && make install Pay close attention to any error messages that come up. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:36:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c0039.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1816537B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA25763; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:35:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3ADB65BE.FD57B653@nisser.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:35:58 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: Nisser - Nr. 1 in Veiligheid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Starting JAIL References: <20010416134036.A2022@everest.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > ... > Secondly, how do you ensure the safety of your jail? I mean it is possible > that when i am logged in as root in the host server I can still messup > files in the jail, right? the JAIL being a guest system, is there a > way to ensure noone can delete/modify those files accidentally? Sorry, I forgot. The "accidental" part you can cover by switching to a higher security setting. Coupled with the new attribute bits you should be covered nicely. Roelof -- Dog's home @ http://cairni.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:44:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c0039.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D183237B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:44:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA25791; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:44:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3ADB67B3.276AF4F7@nisser.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:44:19 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: Nisser - Nr. 1 in Veiligheid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Greenspoon Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: web access References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Greenspoon wrote: > > Is web access available yet for text browsers or am I doing something > wrong? > ... Goto "/usr/ports/www/lynx" and "make install". An alternative is going the emacs route (with w3). Roelof -- http://www.BeerIsBitter.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:46: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081A337B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:46:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 4886955407; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3853B51610; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:40:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Roelof Osinga Cc: Michael Greenspoon , Subject: Re: web access In-Reply-To: <3ADB67B3.276AF4F7@nisser.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-16, Roelof Osinga scribbled: # Goto "/usr/ports/www/lynx" and "make install". An alternative # is going the emacs route (with w3). There is also links and w3m (the latter is good, but doesn't always render pages as well as lynx. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 14:53:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.XtremeDev.com (xtremedev.com [216.241.38.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED74D37B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:53:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@XtremeDev.com) Received: by mail.XtremeDev.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 400F613648; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:53:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.XtremeDev.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5B3D957; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:53:09 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:53:08 -0600 (MDT) From: FreeBSD To: Roelof Osinga Cc: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Starting JAIL In-Reply-To: <3ADB6418.D9B96B6F@nisser.com> Message-ID: <20010416154914.H79383-100000@Amber.XtremeDev.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Roelof Osinga wrote: > You don't. Jail it might be, but it's still chroot() based (granted, > I'll be whipped horribly if tell it wrong... but, hey! You only live > once ;) and chroot's can be broken out of. Especially when you hand > them a shell. I'm curious as to how a user can break out of a FreeBSD chroot. According to http://docs.freebsd.org/44doc/papers/jail/jail-6.html#section8, three three classes of chroot attacks were countered in FreeBSD. Are there other ways to break out of chroot than those mentioned? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 15: 6:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from abby.skypoint.net (abby.skypoint.net [199.86.32.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0028237B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:05:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpj@fep.hirshfields.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by abby.skypoint.net (8.8.7/jl 1.3) with UUCP id RAA09341; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:04:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from rpj@localhost) by fep.hirshfields.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01541; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:35:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rpj) From: "Roger P. Johnson" Message-Id: <200104162035.PAA01541@fep.hirshfields.com> Subject: Re: Problems booting a Digital 5000 PC In-Reply-To: <200104160115.f3G1FwG02498@arrow.lan.raffles-it.com> from David Dooley at "Apr 16, 1 02:15:58 am" To: dpd@raffles-it.com (David Dooley) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:35:36 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I run about 15 DEC PC's. I know exactly what you are talking about. There appears to be a bug in the Phoenix BIOS that when you use FreeBSD in dedicated mode, then you get "Read error". This has occured with FreeBSD since way back in 2.1.5 (when I started FreeBSD). You won't get the Read error with NetBSD or Linux, or others. You have to solutions. One is that you can use it in compatable mode, or two, use dedicated mode with a patched boot code (enclosed, taken right from my machines). I prefer to use dedicated mode and install my patched boot1 code. Here is how you fix the "Read error" with dedicated usage: 1. cd /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2 2. cp boot1.s boot1.s.bak 3. cp this_enclosed_boot1.s to . 4. cd ../btx 5. make 6. cd ../boot2 7. make 8. make install 9. # disklabel -B -b boot1 da0 10. reboot Look for my comments "rpj" in boot1.s to see what I changed. e-mail me if you have any question. -Roger ------------------- begin patched boot1.s ------------------- # # Copyright (c) 1998 Robert Nordier # All rights reserved. # # Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are freely # permitted provided that the above copyright notice and this # paragraph and the following disclaimer are duplicated in all # such forms. # # This software is provided "AS IS" and without any express or # implied warranties, including, without limitation, the implied # warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular # purpose. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/boot1.s,v 1.10.2.2 2000/07/07 21:12:32 jhb Exp $ # Memory Locations .set MEM_REL,0x700 # Relocation address .set MEM_ARG,0x900 # Arguments .set MEM_ORG,0x7c00 # Origin .set MEM_BUF,0x8c00 # Load area .set MEM_BTX,0x9000 # BTX start .set MEM_JMP,0x9010 # BTX entry point .set MEM_USR,0xa000 # Client start .set BDA_BOOT,0x472 # Boot howto flag # Partition Constants .set PRT_OFF,0x1be # Partition offset .set PRT_NUM,0x4 # Partitions .set PRT_BSD,0xa5 # Partition type # Flag Bits .set FL_PACKET,0x80 # Packet mode # Misc. Constants .set SIZ_PAG,0x1000 # Page size .set SIZ_SEC,0x200 # Sector size .globl start .globl xread .code16 start: jmp main # Start recognizably .org 0x4,0x90 # # Trampoline used by boot2 to call read to read data from the disk via # the BIOS. Call with: # # %cx:%ax - long - LBA to read in # %es:(%bx) - caddr_t - buffer to read data into # %dl - byte - drive to read from # %dh - byte - num sectors to read # xread: push %ss # Address pop %ds # data # # Setup an EDD disk packet and pass it to read # xread.1: # Starting pushl $0x0 # absolute push %cx # block push %ax # number push %es # Address of push %bx # transfer buffer xor %ax,%ax # Number of movb %dh,%al # blocks to push %ax # transfer push $0x10 # Size of packet mov %sp,%bp # Packet pointer callw read # Read from disk lea 0x10(%bp),%sp # Clear stack lret # To far caller # # Load the rest of boot2 and BTX up, copy the parts to the right locations, # and start it all up. # # # Setup the segment registers to flat addressing (segment 0) and setup the # stack to end just below the start of our code. # main: cld # String ops inc xor %cx,%cx # Zero mov %cx,%es # Address mov %cx,%ds # data mov %cx,%ss # Set up mov $start,%sp # stack # # Relocate ourself to MEM_REL. Since %cx == 0, the inc %ch sets # %cx == 0x100. # # 2000/08/30 rpj: belch something to screen about this fix ... mov $msg_dflt,%si # Display callw putstr # prompt mov %sp,%si # Source mov $MEM_REL,%di # Destination incb %ch # Word count rep # Copy movsw # code # # If we are on a hard drive, then load the MBR and look for the first # FreeBSD slice. We use the fake partition entry below that points to # the MBR when we call nread. The first pass looks for the first active # FreeBSD slice. The second pass looks for the first non-active FreeBSD # slice if the first one fails. # mov $part4,%si # Partition # 2000/08/30 rpj: explicitly make the system boot from the first hard drive in # the system. mov $0x80, %dl cmpb $0x80,%dl # Hard drive? jb main.4 # No movb $0x1,%dh # Block count callw nread # Read MBR mov $0x1,%cx # Two passes main.1: mov $MEM_BUF+PRT_OFF,%si # Partition table movb $0x1,%dh # Partition main.2: cmpb $PRT_BSD,0x4(%si) # Our partition type? jne main.3 # No jcxz main.5 # If second pass testb $0x80,(%si) # Active? jnz main.5 # Yes main.3: add $0x10,%si # Next entry incb %dh # Partition cmpb $0x1+PRT_NUM,%dh # In table? jb main.2 # Yes dec %cx # Do two jcxz main.1 # passes # # If we get here, we didn't find any FreeBSD slices at all, so print an # error message and die. # mov $msg_part,%si # Message jmp error # Error # # Floppies use partition 0 of drive 0. # main.4: xor %dx,%dx # Partition:drive # # Ok, we have a slice and drive in %dx now, so use that to locate and load # boot2. %si references the start of the slice we are looking for, so go # ahead and load up the first 16 sectors (boot1 + boot2) from that. When # we read it in, we conveniently use 0x8c00 as our transfer buffer. Thus, # boot1 ends up at 0x8c00, and boot2 starts at 0x8c00 + 0x200 = 0x8e00. # The first part of boot2 is the disklabel, which is 0x200 bytes long. # The second part is BTX, which is thus loaded into 0x9000, which is where # it also runs from. The boot2.bin binary starts right after the end of # BTX, so we have to figure out where the start of it is and then move the # binary to 0xb000. Normally, BTX clients start at MEM_USR, or 0xa000, but # when we use btxld create boot2, we use an entry point of 0x1000. That # entry point is relative to MEM_USR; thus boot2.bin starts at 0xb000. # main.5: mov %dx,MEM_ARG # Save args movb $0x10,%dh # Sector count callw nread # Read disk mov $MEM_BTX,%bx # BTX mov 0xa(%bx),%si # Get BTX length and set add %bx,%si # %si to start of boot2.bin mov $MEM_USR+SIZ_PAG,%di # Client page 1 mov $MEM_BTX+0xe*SIZ_SEC,%cx # Byte sub %si,%cx # count rep # Relocate movsb # client sub %di,%cx # Byte count xorb %al,%al # Zero assumed bss from rep # the end of boot2.bin stosb # up to 0x10000 callw seta20 # Enable A20 jmp start+MEM_JMP-MEM_ORG # Start BTX # # Enable A20 so we can access memory above 1 meg. # seta20: cli # Disable interrupts seta20.1: inb $0x64,%al # Get status testb $0x2,%al # Busy? jnz seta20.1 # Yes movb $0xd1,%al # Command: Write outb %al,$0x64 # output port seta20.2: inb $0x64,%al # Get status testb $0x2,%al # Busy? jnz seta20.2 # Yes movb $0xdf,%al # Enable outb %al,$0x60 # A20 sti # Enable interrupts retw # To caller # # Trampoline used to call read from within boot1. # nread: mov $MEM_BUF,%bx # Transfer buffer mov 0x8(%si),%ax # Get mov 0xa(%si),%cx # LBA push %cs # Read from callw xread.1 # disk jnc return # If success, return mov $msg_read,%si # Otherwise, set the error # message and fall through to # the error routine # # Print out the error message pointed to by %ds:(%si) followed # by a prompt, wait for a keypress, and then reboot the machine. # error: callw putstr # Display message mov $prompt,%si # Display callw putstr # prompt xorb %ah,%ah # BIOS: Get int $0x16 # keypress movw $0x1234, BDA_BOOT # Do a warm boot ljmp $0xffff,$0x0 # reboot the machine # # Display a null-terminated string using the BIOS output. # putstr.0: mov $0x7,%bx # Page:attribute movb $0xe,%ah # BIOS: Display int $0x10 # character putstr: lodsb # Get char testb %al,%al # End of string? jne putstr.0 # No # # Overused return code. ereturn is used to return an error from the # read function. Since we assume putstr succeeds, we (ab)use the # same code when we return from putstr. # ereturn: movb $0x1,%ah # Invalid stc # argument return: retw # To caller # # Reads sectors from the disk. If EDD is enabled, then check if it is # installed and use it if it is. If it is not installed or not enabled, then # fall back to using CHS. Since we use a LBA, if we are using CHS, we have to # fetch the drive parameters from the BIOS and divide it out ourselves. # Call with: # # %dl - byte - drive number # stack - 10 bytes - EDD Packet # read: push %dx # Save movb $0x8,%ah # BIOS: Get drive int $0x13 # parameters movb %dh,%ch # Max head number pop %dx # Restore jc return # If error andb $0x3f,%cl # Sectors per track jz ereturn # If zero cli # Disable interrupts mov 0x8(%bp),%eax # Get LBA push %dx # Save movzbl %cl,%ebx # Divide by xor %edx,%edx # sectors div %ebx # per track movb %ch,%bl # Max head number movb %dl,%ch # Sector number inc %bx # Divide by xorb %dl,%dl # number div %ebx # of heads movb %dl,%bh # Head number pop %dx # Restore cmpl $0x3ff,%eax # Cylinder number supportable? sti # Enable interrupts ja read.7 # No, try EDD xchgb %al,%ah # Set up cylinder rorb $0x2,%al # number orb %ch,%al # Merge inc %ax # sector xchg %ax,%cx # number movb %bh,%dh # Head number subb %ah,%al # Sectors this track mov 0x2(%bp),%ah # Blocks to read cmpb %ah,%al # To read jb read.2 # this movb %ah,%al # track read.2: mov $0x5,%di # Try count read.3: les 0x4(%bp),%bx # Transfer buffer push %ax # Save movb $0x2,%ah # BIOS: Read int $0x13 # from disk pop %bx # Restore jnc read.4 # If success dec %di # Retry? jz read.6 # No xorb %ah,%ah # BIOS: Reset int $0x13 # disk system xchg %bx,%ax # Block count jmp read.3 # Continue read.4: movzbw %bl,%ax # Sectors read add %ax,0x8(%bp) # Adjust jnc read.5 # LBA, incw 0xa(%bp) # transfer read.5: shlb %bl # buffer add %bl,0x5(%bp) # pointer, sub %al,0x2(%bp) # block count ja read # If not done read.6: retw # To caller read.7: testb $FL_PACKET,%cs:MEM_REL+flags-start # LBA support enabled? jz ereturn # No, so return an error mov $0x55aa,%bx # Magic push %dx # Save movb $0x41,%ah # BIOS: Check int $0x13 # extensions present pop %dx # Restore jc return # If error, return an error cmp $0xaa55,%bx # Magic? jne ereturn # No, so return an error testb $0x1,%cl # Packet interface? jz ereturn # No, so return an error mov %bp,%si # Disk packet movb $0x42,%ah # BIOS: Extended int $0x13 # read retw # To caller # Messages # 2000/08/rpj: this next message is a tip off about the Read error fix # during the boot process msg_dflt: .asciz "rpj: Loading ...\r\n" msg_read: .asciz "Read" msg_part: .asciz "Boot" prompt: .asciz " error\r\n" flags: .byte FLAGS # Flags .org PRT_OFF,0x90 # Partition table .fill 0x30,0x1,0x0 part4: .byte 0x80, 0x00, 0x01, 0x00 .byte 0xa5, 0xff, 0xff, 0xff .byte 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00 .byte 0x50, 0xc3, 0x00, 0x00 # 50000 sectors long, bleh .word 0xaa55 # Magic number ------------------- end patched boot1.s ------------------- > Hi, > > I have a Digital 5000 PC that I have been trying to install FreeBSD > 4.2 on to for the last couple of weeks. > > It would appear that I can install FreeBSD no problem, but when I try > and boot my nice new clean install I get a 'read error' and that's > it. I can boot from the 2nd CD and muck about with the disk disklabel > and fdisk to no avail. The system was running Win98 and so I thought > that I would try and reinstall that and see if the drive was > nackered, but it worked and it booted up into Windows first time. I > have now gone back to FreeBSD 4.2 and I once again get this 'read > error' error message. I have tried to be 'Dangerously Dedicated' and > not with no success. > > I found an option in the BIOS that's under the Advanced option tab of > my Phoenix BIOS that is labelled 'Large Disk Access Mode' and has the > options 'DOS' and 'OTHER'. In the help panel the text is > > UNIX, Novell Netware, or other operating systems, select 'OTHER'. > If > you are installing new software and the drive failes, change this > selection and try again. Different operating systems require > different > representations of drive geometries. > > I have tried every permutation of Other/Dos and Not/Dangerously > Dedicated. > > Just this evening I tried to install FreeBSD again, but this time I > tried using a small root partition thinking it maybe something to do > with old machine and large partitions, so I set the root partition to > be 512M and 128M swap and /usr everything else. Previously I had set > the root partition to be everything bar 128M for swap. I have done > this rebuild tonight with 'Dangerously dedicated' set and the BIOS > setting set to both DOS and other. > > Just as an aside the option was set to DOS but when I installed Win98 > I had mistakenly left it at 'Other' and it still worked. > > Once I have FreeBSD installed, this machines prime function will be > to be a print server for a postscript printer, with the occasional > duty as a cd burner. > > The system is a Pentium 2 233MHz with 96MB ram and a 3.2 GB IDE Hard > Drive (1st channel, Master), 1 CDROM (2nd channel, Master), 1 CD-RW > (1st channel, slave). The drive has been partitioned > > Thanks for your time and any assistance. > > David. > > > [application/pgp-signature is not supported, skipping...] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 15:31:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sleipner.eiffel.dk (sub19-229.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.19.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC2937B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flemming@froekjaer.org) Received: from tychobrahe (sub19-225.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.19.225]) by sleipner.eiffel.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3QKxsN26972; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:59:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flemming@froekjaer.org) Message-Id: <4.1.20010416151348.00a819c0@sleipner.eiffel.dk> X-Sender: flemming@sleipner.eiffel.dk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:31:21 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Flemming =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=F8kj=E6r?= Subject: Bind is Dying Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have 3 different DNS servers. All are running FreeBSD 4.2 1 is using a GENERIC kernel, the 2 others are custom. They are also fierwall's From time to time, maybe ones a week one or more of the DNS servers will die. This is from the log files on the 2 servers. Apr 15 13:43:33 dns1 /kernel: pid 55479 (named), uid 53: exited on signal 11 Apr 15 14:48:17 uriha /kernel: pid 13646 (named), uid 53: exited on signal 6 How can i find out who is sending these signals, and who can i Stop them? \Flemming To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 15:32: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sheppard.torfree.net (sheppard.torfree.net [199.71.188.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B4E37B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:32:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ad330@sheppard.torfree.net) Received: by sheppard.torfree.net (Postfix, from userid 4330) id CFED33E85; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sheppard.torfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE22718; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:32:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Greenspoon To: Linh Pham Cc: Roelof Osinga , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: web access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you for such a speedy reply. I am sorry. I do not know how to get to "/usr/ports/www/lynx" and "make install". There doesn't seem to be an access point in the pine setup. mg On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-16, Roelof Osinga scribbled: > > # Goto "/usr/ports/www/lynx" and "make install". An alternative > # is going the emacs route (with w3). > > There is also links and w3m (the latter is good, but doesn't always > render pages as well as lynx. > > -- > Linh Pham > [lplist@closedsrc.org] > > // 404b - Brain not found > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 15:39:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FB337B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:39:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3GNkKq70456; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:46:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:46:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: Peter Kok Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: port In-Reply-To: <3ADB6431.8026336@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Peter Kok wrote: > Hi all > > I would like to install the following ports in freebsd 4.1 > but I couldn't install it (couldn't find the package after make install) > > > > /usr/ports/sysutils/ucspi-tcp > > > /usr/ports/security/checkpassword > > > Please let me know how I install it on the port If you did a "make install" and it failed...what was the error message? Couldn't find the package? It probably couldn't get the tarball from online. You should try to manually download (via ftp) the .tar.gz (from the location specified in the Makefile) and put it in /usr/ports/distfiles. Then try to rerun the make install. Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 15:45: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megamail.megared.com.mx [200.52.207.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFD137B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:45:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lcroker@unix.megared.net.mx) Received: from localhost (lcroker@localhost) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3GLeHJ00577; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:40:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lcroker@unix.megared.net.mx) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:40:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Lu!s Croker To: Flemming =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=F8kj=E6r?= Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bind is Dying In-Reply-To: <4.1.20010416151348.00a819c0@sleipner.eiffel.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When your Bind is dying like the log shows, your system could be on attacks for bind... You should update to 8.2.3 version. Sorry.. my English is bad yet. =20 On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Flemming [iso-8859-1] Fr=F8kj=E6r wrote: > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:31:21 -0700 > From: "Flemming [iso-8859-1] Fr=F8kj=E6r" > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Bind is Dying >=20 > I have 3 different DNS servers. All are running FreeBSD 4.2 > 1 is using a GENERIC kernel, the 2 others are custom. They are also fierw= all's > >From time to time, maybe ones a week one or more of the DNS servers will= die. >=20 > This is from the log files on the 2 servers. > Apr 15 13:43:33 dns1 /kernel: pid 55479 (named), uid 53: exited on signal= 11 >=20 > Apr 15 14:48:17 uriha /kernel: pid 13646 (named), uid 53: exited on signa= l 6 >=20 > How can i find out who is sending these signals, and who can i Stop them? >=20 > \Flemming >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 16: 0:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sleipner.eiffel.dk (sub19-229.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.19.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E7A37B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flemming@froekjaer.org) Received: from tychobrahe (sub19-225.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.19.225]) by sleipner.eiffel.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3QLSmN27552; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:28:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flemming@froekjaer.org) Message-Id: <4.1.20010416155817.01695d50@sleipner.eiffel.dk> X-Sender: flemming@sleipner.eiffel.dk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:00:15 -0700 To: Lu!s Croker From: Flemming =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=F8kj=E6r?= Subject: Re: Bind is Dying Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.20010416151348.00a819c0@sleipner.eiffel.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is this wersion OK? Apr 15 16:52:31 uriha named[62885]: starting. named 8.2.3-T6B Tue Jan 16 22:07:01 PST 2001=20 \Flemming At 04:40 PM 4/16/2001 -0500, Lu!s Croker wrote: > When your Bind is dying like the log shows, your system could be >on attacks for bind... You should update to 8.2.3 version. >On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Flemming [iso-8859-1] Fr=F8kj=E6r wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:31:21 -0700 >> From: "Flemming [iso-8859-1] Fr=F8kj=E6r" >> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> Subject: Bind is Dying >>=20 >> I have 3 different DNS servers. All are running FreeBSD 4.2 >> 1 is using a GENERIC kernel, the 2 others are custom. They are also=20 >fierwall's >> >From time to time, maybe ones a week one or more of the DNS servers will= =20 >die. >>=20 >> This is from the log files on the 2 servers. >> Apr 15 13:43:33 dns1 /kernel: pid 55479 (named), uid 53: exited on signal= 11 >>=20 >> Apr 15 14:48:17 uriha /kernel: pid 13646 (named), uid 53: exited on= signal 6 >>=20 >> How can i find out who is sending these signals, and who can i Stop them? >>=20 >> \Flemming >>=20 >>=20 >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >>=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 16: 2:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A98D37B443 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:02:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14pI0h-000Bn4-00; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:02:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:02:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: Flemming =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=F8kj=E6r?= Cc: Lu!s Croker , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bind is Dying In-Reply-To: <4.1.20010416155817.01695d50@sleipner.eiffel.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No... This version has the bug.... I was running this last week and my box kept being attacked and I had the same symptom you are having. I was toying with the idea of puting in 9.1.1, but settled on puting in 8.2.3-REL replacing 8.2.3-T6B. My BIND hasn't had a problem since. Sincerely, Rick Duvall On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Flemming [iso-8859-1] Fr=F8kj=E6r wrote: > Is this wersion OK? >=20 > Apr 15 16:52:31 uriha named[62885]: starting. named 8.2.3-T6B Tue Jan 16 > 22:07:01 PST 2001=20 >=20 > \Flemming >=20 > At 04:40 PM 4/16/2001 -0500, Lu!s Croker wrote: > > When your Bind is dying like the log shows, your system could be > >on attacks for bind... You should update to 8.2.3 version. >=20 >=20 > >On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Flemming [iso-8859-1] Fr=F8kj=E6r wrote: > > > >> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:31:21 -0700 > >> From: "Flemming [iso-8859-1] Fr=F8kj=E6r" > >> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >> Subject: Bind is Dying > >>=20 > >> I have 3 different DNS servers. All are running FreeBSD 4.2 > >> 1 is using a GENERIC kernel, the 2 others are custom. They are also=20 > >fierwall's > >> >From time to time, maybe ones a week one or more of the DNS servers w= ill=20 > >die. > >>=20 > >> This is from the log files on the 2 servers. > >> Apr 15 13:43:33 dns1 /kernel: pid 55479 (named), uid 53: exited on sig= nal 11 > >>=20 > >> Apr 15 14:48:17 uriha /kernel: pid 13646 (named), uid 53: exited on si= gnal 6 > >>=20 > >> How can i find out who is sending these signals, and who can i Stop th= em? > >>=20 > >> \Flemming > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >>=20 > > >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 16: 3:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1A6937B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:03:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 70509 invoked by uid 100); 16 Apr 2001 23:03:24 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15067.31292.118757.73035@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:03:24 -0500 To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2-Release & bad IDE blocks... In-Reply-To: <85532652@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas David Rivers types: > My 4.2-release system suddenly crashed with bad blocks on the > ATA drive.... > > Fsck simply indicates it can't read 3 blocks - but, as I understand > it - bad block mapping is now "gone"... (the assumption being that > any reasonable ATA/IDE drive isn't going to have this problem.) > > So - I'd like to at least get the file system mounted so I can > recover what is recoverable... but, fsck will never succeed to > mark the file mountable... (I could simply force the mount, but > that would likely result in a crash again... stifling my recovery > efforts.) > > If anyone has pointers to how to go about this - I'd appreciate it! Read the man page for mount, looking for the "force" option. Be warned that mounting a bad file system can cause your kernel to crash. The safer alternative - if you have the disk space - is to use dd to copy the file system (conv=noerror,sync) to a file, use vn to access it as a disk, then fsck and mount that. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 16:11:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFE8F37B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 70752 invoked by uid 100); 16 Apr 2001 23:11:08 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15067.31756.351579.108964@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:11:08 -0500 To: Wayne Pascoe Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount questions (usb device and mounting as user) In-Reply-To: <15225746@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wayne Pascoe types: > Hi there, > > I have 2 questions about mounting things. First one should be the > simplest. What do I put in my fstab to allow users to mount devices > like cdroms ? Under Linux I just had to add the user keyword to the > options and it worked. It's in the FAQ at . http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 16:18:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gdmckee.local (pc-62-30-209-11-so.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.209.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21F637B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gdmckee.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (helo=p300) by gdmckee.local with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14pIFp-000JwE-00; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:17:57 +0100 Message-ID: <00eb01c0c6cb$82946d40$01000001@gdmckee.local> From: "G D McKee" To: "universe" Cc: "Questions FreeBSD" References: <002301c0c6b0$b50dd420$01000001@gdmckee.local> <3ADB5098.1B24E305@truemetal.org> Subject: Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:18:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Trying this command and getting the following error: kursk# /usr/local/sbin/shlight //C433-ME/d /mnt/c433-backup -u gdm -p **** C433-ME: unknown host kursk# Has any one got any ideas? Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "universe" To: "G D McKee" Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:05 PM Subject: Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System > what program are you using? sharity light? > > shlight //smbmachine/share /mountpoint > > eg: shlight //gw/universe ~/gw > > > > G D McKee wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I have been trying to mount a windows share on FreeBSd using SMBFS. Got it > > compiled and it doesn't seem to work. I have followed the examples. > > > > Does any one have a command line prompt to mount the share please? > > > > Gordon > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 16:21:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin9.bigpond.com (juicer34.bigpond.com [139.134.6.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7560837B446 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:21:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.56]) by mailin9.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GBWRS800.HMR; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:26:32 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-141-233.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.141.233]) by mail3.bigpond.com (Claudes-Interim-MailRouter V2.9c 5/2767945); 17 Apr 2001 09:21:04 Message-ID: <002e01c0c6cb$f4252670$e98d093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Michael Greenspoon" , "Linh Pham" Cc: "Roelof Osinga" , References: Subject: Re: web access Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:21:22 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cd /usr/ports/www/lynx if the system doesn't complain about non-existent files or something, then run "make install" if you get an error message about ports not existing, you'll need to run "/stand/sysinstall" to install ports ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Greenspoon" To: "Linh Pham" Cc: "Roelof Osinga" ; Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:32 AM Subject: Re: web access > Thank you for such a speedy reply. > > I am sorry. > > I do not know how to get to "/usr/ports/www/lynx" and "make install". > > There doesn't seem to be an access point in the pine setup. > > mg > > > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > > > On 2001-04-16, Roelof Osinga scribbled: > > > > # Goto "/usr/ports/www/lynx" and "make install". An alternative > > # is going the emacs route (with w3). > > > > There is also links and w3m (the latter is good, but doesn't always > > render pages as well as lynx. > > > > -- > > Linh Pham > > [lplist@closedsrc.org] > > > > // 404b - Brain not found > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 16:21:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AC537B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:21:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:root@rac2.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.142]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11803; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac2.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA08297; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac2.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08293; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:21:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac2.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:21:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Andrew Gould Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: revisited - KDE not saving desktop settings In-Reply-To: <20010416211153.36348.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A better solution is to chown everything in Desktop and .kde to your username and group... that worked for me. ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Andrew Gould wrote: > A while back, I posted a message about how KDE running > on FreeBSD 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 wouldn't save a normal > user's desktop. That is, the icons would appear in > the upper left corner each time KDE was started, even > though they had been moved in the previous session. > > A few people, who are also experiencing this problem, > have contacted me directly to see if a solution was > ever found. The answer, finally, is "yes" - update > the sources and install the port of KDE2. (and then > when you're tired of waiting for KDE2 to start, just > run kfm or other KDE apps from icewm!) > > Just wanted post a resolution to the problem for the > archives. > > Have a great day! > > Andrew Gould > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 16:27: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sunny.pacific.net.au (sunny.pacific.net.au [210.23.129.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF06B37B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:27:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rnera@optushome.com.au) Received: from wisma.pacific.net.au (wisma.pacific.net.au [210.23.129.72]) by sunny.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id JAA24742; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:27:01 +1000 (EST) Received: from RYAN (ppp41.dyn145.pacific.net.au [210.23.145.41]) by wisma.pacific.net.au with SMTP id JAA05629; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:26:58 +1000 (EST) From: "Ryan" To: "'Angel Utiel'" , Subject: RE: problems with FreeBSD 4.2, 4.3rc2 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:33:57 +1000 Message-ID: <009e01c0c732$4b1f2b40$0100a8c0@RYAN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3AD250CD.20506@retemail.es> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i've had the same problem with HP kayacs on 4.2r i never got to the botom of it but simply using a different keyboard worked fine.. have you tried using a different PS keyboard? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Angel Utiel Sent: Tuesday, 10 April 2001 10:16 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: problems with FreeBSD 4.2, 4.3rc2 I Want to test FreeBSD in my computer. I bought PC-World, that came with FreeBSD, but in my computer, hangs in menu section. It seems that keyboard or mouse doesn't work. I downloaded FreeBSD 4.3rc2, and did the same, when instalation menu appears, I can't do nothing. mouse doesn't work, and Num Lock, Caps Lock doesn't work. I can not install FreeBSD in my computer. My computer, is a PentiumII, 350, with Legend QDI- BrillianX-IS. Ps2 keyboard, and ps2 mouse. IDE hard disk ( 20 Gb ), and toshiba DVD, and a Philips CDRW. TNT2 M4, and 256 MB Ram. SoundBlaster Live. It seems that FreeBSD detects als component of muy computer. I tried to install FreeBSD in other computers ( Pentium 233, worked ), ( k6-500, worked ). Do you know any solution, or how detect where is the problem?? PD: Win98, Win Me, Win NT, Win2000, and Linux installs in my computer without problems. Thanks, Angel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 16:40:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F5437B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 0431D55407; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E880051610; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:34:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: G D McKee Cc: universe , Questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System In-Reply-To: <00eb01c0c6cb$82946d40$01000001@gdmckee.local> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-17, G D McKee scribbled: # kursk# /usr/local/sbin/shlight //C433-ME/d /mnt/c433-backup -u gdm -p **** # C433-ME: unknown host For some reason, I run into that with my machine as well, even if the machine name and the IP address in /etc/hosts. Have you actually tried smbfs (shlight is not smbfs). -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 16:52:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B19637B440 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:52:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 5386555407; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437A251610; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Michael Greenspoon Cc: Roelof Osinga , Subject: Re: web access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-16, Michael Greenspoon scribbled: # I do not know how to get to "/usr/ports/www/lynx" and "make install". # # There doesn't seem to be an access point in the pine setup. Exit out of Pine, su to root (assuming that you are part of the wheel group, if not, logout and log in as root) and run the following command: cd /usr/ports/www/lynx ; make && make install If it states that /user/ports/www/lynx could not be found, then the Portls connection wasn't installed. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 16:53:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E90A37B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:53:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14pInu-000BtO-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:53:10 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:53:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Tar error: Operation not configured Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Help. What does this mean? root@ns1:/# tar --verify -cf /dev/sa0 /usr/local/bin tar: Removing leading / from absolute path names in the archive. tar: Removing leading / from absolute links tar: read error on /dev/sa0 : Input/output error tar: read error on /dev/sa0 : Operation not permitted tar: read error on /dev/sa0 : Operation not permitted tar: read error on /dev/sa0 : Operation not permitted tar: read error on /dev/sa0 : Operation not permitted tar: read error on /dev/sa0 : Operation not permitted tar: read error on /dev/sa0 : Operation not permitted tar: read error on /dev/sa0 : Operation not permitted tar: read error on /dev/sa0 : Operation not permitted tar: read error on /dev/sa0 : Operation not permitted tar: read error on /dev/sa0 : Operation not permitted tar: read error on /dev/sa0 : Operation not permitted tar: Too many errors, quitting. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 16:54: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from m2.bezeqint.net (m2.bezeqint.net [192.115.106.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC8037B446 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:53:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from njohn@pisem.net) Received: from mainstation (bzq-137-143.bezeqint.net [212.179.137.143] (may be forged)) by m2.bezeqint.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ABN64509; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:53:40 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:53:36 +0200 From: John Brain X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52 Beta/4) Reply-To: John Brain X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1822974457.20010417025336@pisem.net> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Information request MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Sirs, I would like to know does FreeBSD (4.2-stable) support CMI 8338 sound card (http://www.cmedia.com.tw/doc8338.htm), and if it does how i can configure it? ___ Best regards, John. mailto:njohn@pisem.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 17:52:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mst.tomail.com.tw (mst.tomail.com.tw [210.200.129.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF67B37B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:52:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rocky02@pchome.com.tw) Received: (qmail 3124 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 00:52:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rocky) (@211.75.230.214) by mst.tomail.com.tw with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 00:52:13 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c0c6d8$865c37c0$740110ac@bravo.com.tw> From: "rocky" To: Subject: about how to install lotus notes server? 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C71B.923587C0-- ========================================================== PC home §K¶O¹q¤l«H½c¡A¥Ó½Ð½Ð¦Ü: http://www.pchome.com.tw PC home Online ºô¸ô®a®x¡@¡@ ·|­û²Ä¤@¡A¥xÆW³Ì¤jªº¤J¤fºô¯¸ ========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 18:12:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F29337B423; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:12:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14pK2g-000CVn-00; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:12:30 -0700 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Kent Berggren Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Laptoppers Subject: Re: Dell C600 XFree86 References: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:12:30 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is it any one who has a worked XF86Config file for Dell C600 with ATI Rage > 128 Mobility. i too am seeking an answer to this four month old message from the archives. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 18:13:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1954D37B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:13:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave_smith4@hp.com) Received: from xparelay2.corp.hp.com (xparelay2.corp.hp.com [15.58.137.112]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D237C708 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xpabh3.corp.hp.com (xpabh3.corp.hp.com [15.58.136.223]) by xparelay2.corp.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACC51F514 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by xpabh3.corp.hp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2M5NMN17>; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:13:42 -0700 Message-ID: <6BD67FFB937FD411A04F00D0B74FE8787EB5C7@xrose06.rose.hp.com> From: "SMITH,DAVE (HP-Roseville,ex1)" To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Cc: "SMITH,DAVE (HP-Roseville,ex1)" Subject: WaveLAN IEEE driver Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:13:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have an X86 PC running 4.2 Release and I want to enable the Lucent/Agere Orinoco WaveLAN IEEE 802.11 card. I have the card plugged into a ISA to PCMCIA adapter card (I have tried a PCI to PCMCIA adapter too) and I am unable to get FreeBSD to recognize the card. I have built my own kernel just to make sure that the if_wi.c file is compiled and linked in. I have been unsuccessful at all attempts to get FreeBSD to recognize the PCMCIA card. There is no information that indicates that the card is present and it never gets powered on. I am a little new with FreeBSD and don't know yet all of the config files that might need to be modified in order to make this work. So far, I have not been successful at finding any usefull information about how device drivers are written and installed into the FreeBSD operating system and/or how to troubleshoot when it does not get called. It appears to me that the PCMCIA card is not recognized and powered on and therefor the wi_probe function is never called. But I cannot be sure about what is happening. Can someone help point me in the right direction? Is this the right email discussion for this topic? Thanks very much for any help, Dave Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 18:26:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dsl-64-193-218-89.telocity.com (dsl-64-193-218-89.telocity.com [64.193.218.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 693B137B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:26:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lucas@slb.to) Received: (qmail 31094 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Apr 2001 01:27:16 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:27:16 -0500 From: Lucas Bergman To: "Potts, Ross" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adding man pages? Message-ID: <20010416202716.A27536@billygoat.slb.to> Reply-To: lucas@slb.to References: <95B669A7D872D41182A600508BDFFB8C01BECB41@mlbmx7.ess.harris.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <95B669A7D872D41182A600508BDFFB8C01BECB41@mlbmx7.ess.harris.com>; from rpotts@harris.com on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 03:44:58PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > from the CL, how can I make available the manpages that AMANDA (the > backup program) makes available all the time? Edit /etc/manpath.config. This will make the man pages available for 'man whatever'. If you want the pages to figure into apropos/whatis searches, do # sh /etc/periodic/weekly/320.whatis after you edit the config file, or wait till the end of the week... :) See manpath(1) for more information. > Where does nroff figure into this? nroff is the formatter that takes the man pages (which are written in a macro language which nroff understands) and formats them for viewing on your console. Do # gzip -dc /usr/share/man/man1/man.1.gz | nroff -man | less to see what I mean. Lucas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 19: 5:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net [24.69.46.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF1537B440 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:05:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (localhost.gv.shawcable.net [127.0.0.1]) by h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3H28A121287 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:08:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Michael O'Henly" Reply-To: michael@tenzo.com Organization: TENZO Design To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ipfw vs. domestic tranquility... Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:08:10 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041619081002.21220@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm borrowed from several sources to cobble together a useful firewall with NAT and it _almost_ works. ;-) My FreeBSD box has two NICs: the external NIC is assigned an IP via DHCP and the internal NIC I've aribitrarily assigned 192.168.0.1. There are two other machines on the internal network. I want my internal users to be able to do whatever they want, and external users to be denied all access except for the services indicated in the script. So far, the only way this is failing is that internal users can't communicate with addresses out in the world. (Actually, I suspect they can send but not receive.) This is leading to some domestic unrest -- especially since my machine (the box that's acting as a gateway) has no trouble... I've been fiddling with this thing for so long that my brain is turning to mush. I'd be very grateful if you could scan it and share your impressions. Thanks. M. -----[ snip ]-=---- [Tt][Ee][Nn][Zz][Oo]) ############## # Custom firewall ############## # set these to your outside interface, network, netmask and ip oif="rl0" onet=`ifconfig rl0 | grep "inet " | awk '{print $2 "/23"}'` omask="255.255.254.0" oip=`ifconfig rl0 | grep "inet " | awk '{print $2}'` # set these to your inside interface, network, netmask and ip iif="xl0" inet="192.168.0.1/24" imask="255.255.255.0" iip="192.168.0.1" # Stop RFC1918 nets on the outside interface ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 10.0.0.0/8 via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 172.16.0.0/12 via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.168.0.0/16 via ${oif} # Stop draft-manning-dsua-03.txt (1 May 2000) nets (includes RESERVED-1, # DHCP auto-configuration, NET-TEST, MULTICAST (class D), and class E) # on the outside interface ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 0.0.0.0/8 via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 169.254.0.0/16 via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 192.0.2.0/24 via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 224.0.0.0/4 via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny all from any to 240.0.0.0/4 via ${oif} # Network Address Translation. This rule is placed here deliberately # so that it does not interfere with the surrounding address-checking # rules. If for example one of your internal LAN machines had its IP # address set to 192.0.2.1 then an incoming packet for it after being # translated by natd(8) would match the `deny' rule above. Similarly # an outgoing packet originated from it before being translated would # match the `deny' rule below. case ${natd_enable} in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) if [ -n "${natd_interface}" ]; then ${fwcmd} add divert natd all from any to any via ${natd_interface} fi ;; esac # Stop RFC1918 nets on the outside interface ${fwcmd} add deny all from 10.0.0.0/8 to any via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny all from 172.16.0.0/12 to any via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny all from 192.168.0.0/16 to any via ${oif} # Stop draft-manning-dsua-03.txt (1 May 2000) nets (includes RESERVED-1, # DHCP auto-configuration, NET-TEST, MULTICAST (class D), and class E) # on the outside interface ${fwcmd} add deny all from 0.0.0.0/8 to any via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny all from 169.254.0.0/16 to any via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny all from 192.0.2.0/24 to any via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny all from 224.0.0.0/4 to any via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny all from 240.0.0.0/4 to any via ${oif} # Allow anything on the internal net ${fwcmd} add pass all from any to any via ${iif} # Allow anything outbound from this net ${fwcmd} add pass all from ${onet}:${omask} to any out via ${oif} # Allow TCP through if setup succeeded ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to any established # Allow IP fragments to pass through ${fwcmd} add pass all from any to any frag # Allow setup of incoming ssh, mail, http, https ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 22 setup in via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 25 setup in via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 80 setup in via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to ${oip} 443 setup in via ${oif} # Deny inbound auth and netbios without logging ${fwcmd} add deny tcp from any to ${oip} 113 setup in via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny tcp from any to ${oip} 139 setup in via ${oif} # Deny some chatty UDP broadcast protocols without logging ${fwcmd} add deny udp from any 137 to any in via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny udp from any 138 to any in via ${oif} ${fwcmd} add deny udp from any 525 to any in via ${oif} # Reject&Log all setup of incoming connections from the outside ${fwcmd} add deny log tcp from any to any in via ${oif} setup # Allow setup of any other TCP connection ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to any setup # Allow DNS queries out in the world ${fwcmd} add pass udp from any 53 to ${oip} ${fwcmd} add pass udp from ${oip} to any 53 # Allow NTP queries out in the world ${fwcmd} add pass udp from any 123 to ${oip} ${fwcmd} add pass udp from ${oip} to any 123 # Everything else is denied by default, unless the # IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT option is set in your kernel # config file. ;; -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 19:36:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.tekrealm.net (dsl081-247-162.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.247.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D1837B443 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:36:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@tekrealm.net) Received: from elite (elite.priv.tekrealm.net [192.168.0.2]) by freebsd.tekrealm.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3H2Zqe32629; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@tekrealm.net) Message-ID: <010301c0c6e7$4a59fb90$0200a8c0@elite> From: "Elitetek" To: "Doug Wilson" , "Kevin Oberman" Cc: References: <200104152237.f3FMbYc02099@ptavv.es.net> Subject: Re: please help with pcmcia nic... Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:37:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > I have a laptop running FreeBSD 4.2 Release. It has a 3Com Megahertz > Model > > > 3CCFE575BT 10/100 Base-TX PCMCIA which I bought a few weeks ago. I believe the problem here is that this card is a 32bit Card, thus is CardBus, which isnt supported correctly under FreeBSD 4.x, You can try the NEWCARD kernel, but i havent seen very good support out of that (although i havent tried myself since about 4.1) If i am wrong, someone please correct me, but i do beleive this is the cause. Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 19:45:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nameserver.austclear.com.au (nameserver.austclear.com.au [192.83.119.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D2F37B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:45:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahl@austclear.com.au) Received: from tungsten.austclear.com.au (tungsten.austclear.com.au [192.168.70.1]) by nameserver.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA47694; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:45:20 +1000 (EST) Received: from tungsten (tungsten [192.168.70.1]) by tungsten.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04404; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:45:19 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200104170245.MAA04404@tungsten.austclear.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: michael@tenzo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw vs. domestic tranquility... In-Reply-To: Message from "Michael O'Henly" of "Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:08:10 MST." <01041619081002.21220@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:45:19 +1000 From: Tony Landells Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I assume you've configured NAT as well, and that you've checked that the NAT rule shows up in a listing (ipfw list), and that the natd arguments match your requirements? If not, you'll be squishing your internal traffic with the rules immediately after the natd stuff, which should be obvious if you look at the rule counters (ipfw show)... Personally, I prefer to log almost everything I deny so I can see where traffic is being stopped, particularly when I'm first setting things up. Once things are working to my satisfaction I selectively disable some logging (but not much--I have a lot of disk space and know how to use grep). Tony -- Tony Landells Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 Level 4, Rialto North Tower 525 Collins Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 19:47:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (dav25.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.22.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6091737B440 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:47:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from want_2_learn_freebsd@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:47:09 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.144.200.55] From: "Doug Wilson" To: References: <200104152237.f3FMbYc02099@ptavv.es.net> <010301c0c6e7$4a59fb90$0200a8c0@elite> Subject: Re: please help with pcmcia nic... Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:47:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Apr 2001 02:47:09.0066 (UTC) FILETIME=[B23146A0:01C0C6E8] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Andrew, thanks everyone for your help. Yes, I did not know the difference between cardbus and pcmcia. And now that I know the difference, I won't be returning it for pcmcia. I will have to use Linux on my laptop until support is available. Thanks again everyone! Doug. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elitetek" To: "Doug Wilson" ; "Kevin Oberman" Cc: Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 7:37 PM Subject: Re: please help with pcmcia nic... > > > > I have a laptop running FreeBSD 4.2 Release. It has a 3Com Megahertz > > Model > > > > 3CCFE575BT 10/100 Base-TX PCMCIA which I bought a few weeks ago. > > > I believe the problem here is that this card is a 32bit Card, thus is > CardBus, which isnt > supported correctly under FreeBSD 4.x, You can try the NEWCARD kernel, but i > havent seen very good support out of that (although i havent tried myself > since about > 4.1) > > If i am wrong, someone please correct me, but i do beleive this is the > cause. > > > Andrew > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 19:50:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net [24.69.46.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C1537B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (localhost.gv.shawcable.net [127.0.0.1]) by h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3H2qb121642; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:52:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Michael O'Henly" Reply-To: michael@tenzo.com Organization: TENZO Design To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw vs. domestic tranquility... Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:52:37 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <200104170245.MAA04404@tungsten.austclear.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200104170245.MAA04404@tungsten.austclear.com.au> Cc: Tony Landells MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041619523705.21220@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 16 April 2001 19:45, Tony Landells wrote: > Personally, I prefer to log almost everything I deny so I can see > where traffic is being stopped, particularly when I'm first setting > things up. That's a good idea. I'll try that. Thanks! M. PS: Yes, I do have NATD set up and working properly -- that is, if I "allow all from any to any" the machines on the internal network are able to reach the net with no problem. -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 19:57:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732DF37B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:57:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3H2v9c18935; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104170257.f3H2v9c18935@ptavv.es.net> To: "Doug Wilson" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: please help with pcmcia nic... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:05:18 PDT." Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:57:09 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just went to the 3Com web site and discovered that this is a CardBus (32 bit) card. At this time CardBus is not supported in FreeBSD V4. CardBus support is planned for V5 and is available in -current, But -current is not real stable and you should only run it if you have a high pain threshold. V5 is planned for release in a few months, hopefully before the end of the year. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 20:32:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (web803.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2558A37B440 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:32:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mol666@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 2605 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Apr 2001 03:32:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20010417033216.2604.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.191.173.79] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:32:16 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:32:16 -0700 (PDT) From: alissa bader Subject: can't get ports collection to work To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hiyah. I'm running 4.1 release. before I did anything else I added the package to upgrade from 4.1 to stable, as per the handbook. Then I updated the ports tree via a cvsup--using the generic cvsupfile that came with cvsupit. So then I tried to install a port, and I got the following: "error -- your port uses an old layout." Then I was directed to a faq to ask for the correct file to cvsup. I did this. I think. But I must have not done this correctly, because after running a cvsup again, I still get the same error message when I try to make something. Help! What am I doing wrong? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. thanks! --alissa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 20:53: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from omta04.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EA537B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:53:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@sysmach.com) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta04.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D744F9B0 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 268242747; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:53:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Kyle To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: the complete freebsd 3rd edition Reply-To: freebsd@sysmach.com X-Originating-Ip: [4.47.176.175] Message-Id: <20010417035305.268242747@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just received the book I ordered by mail today "the complete freebsd, third edition" by Greg Lehey. It came with 4 CDs; 1. CD 1, Intel Installation Boot CD, Packages, X11 2. CD 2, Alpha installation, Live filesystem, CVS repository, Web pages. 3. CD 3, Packages/Ports 4. CD 3, Packages/Ports The 3rd and 4th CD looked identical. I was wondering if this is made on purpose, or have I got the wrong CD. Thanks. My computer is down ATM, so I didnt check it out yet. == _____________________________________________ /"\ ASCII Ribbon campaign against E-Mail \ / in gratuitous HTML and Microsoft X proprietary formats. / \ _____________________________________________________________ Systems at MACHSPEED!! http://sysmach.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 21: 0:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2C937B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:00:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5D476ACB8; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:30:43 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:30:43 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Kyle Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the complete freebsd 3rd edition Message-ID: <20010417133043.P66943@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010417035305.268242747@sitemail.everyone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010417035305.268242747@sitemail.everyone.net>; from freebsd@sysmach.com on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:53:05PM -0700 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Your paragraph was all on one line. On Monday, 16 April 2001 at 20:53:05 -0700, Kyle wrote: > I just received the book I ordered by mail today "the complete > freebsd, third edition" by Greg Lehey. > > It came with 4 CDs; > > 1. CD 1, Intel Installation Boot CD, Packages, X11 > 2. CD 2, Alpha installation, Live filesystem, CVS repository, Web pages. > 3. CD 3, Packages/Ports > 4. CD 3, Packages/Ports > > The 3rd and 4th CD looked identical. I was wondering if this is made > on purpose, or have I got the wrong CD. Thanks. All the CDs have numbers at the top right. If they're not numbered 1, 2, 3 and 4, then something went wrong. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 21:20:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458B637B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:20:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A48A19701BA; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:20:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3ADBC489.1657DB27@urx.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:20:25 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alissa bader Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't get ports collection to work References: <20010417033216.2604.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG alissa bader wrote: > > hiyah. I'm running 4.1 release. before I did > anything else I added the package to upgrade from 4.1 > to stable, as per the handbook. Then I updated the > ports tree via a cvsup--using the generic cvsupfile > that came with cvsupit. > > So then I tried to install a port, and I got the > following: > "error -- your port uses an old layout." Then I was > directed to a faq to ask for the correct file to > cvsup. I did this. I think. But I must have not > done this correctly, because after running a cvsup > again, I still get the same error message when I try > to make something. > > Help! What am I doing wrong? Nothing, you have an old setup, which means you have a couple of dirctories present that are no longer used. Brett Taylor posted this a couple of days ago. Try cd /usr/ports/ && rm -rf */*/work */*/patches Kent > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > thanks! > > --alissa > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 21:29:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B2537B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@earthlink.net) Received: from 1Cust155.tnt1.starkville.ms.da.uu.net (1Cust155.tnt1.starkville.ms.da.uu.net [63.30.107.155]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA16137 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ISA PnP modem From: Dave To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.10+cvs.2001.04.16.08.00 (Preview Release) Date: 16 Apr 2001 23:32:12 -0500 Message-Id: <987481936.2203.1.camel@tecra.home.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am having a heck of a time here. I have 4.2 RELEASE. I added a line for my Digicom modem in /usr/src/sys/isa/sio.c. I rebuilt the kernel. If I leave sio1 enabled my kernel gives this message: unknown: can't assign resources and pnpinfo shows the following: CSN CTL3061 (0x61308c0e), Serial Number 0xffffffff Logical Device #0 IO: 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 IRQ 0 0 DMA 4 4 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00 If I disable sio1 I get the following line for IO: 0x02f8 0x02f8 0x02f8 0x02f8 0x02f8 0x02f8 0x02f8 0x02f8 The IRQ line shows 3 and I verified that no other devices use that IRQ with dmesg. I have tried turning PnP OS installed off in BIOS and turning it back on. I have also tried resetting the PnP information. What ever happened to the pnp device from the older kernels anyway? I can configure this modem in linux with the isapnp tool. Please Help!!! :) Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 21:36:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nebula.anchoragerescue.org (cable-115-7-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.7.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BC237B446 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:36:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akbeech@anchoragerescue.org) Received: from galaxy.anchoragerescue.org (galaxy.anchoragerescue.org [24.237.7.95]) by nebula.anchoragerescue.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D285F4A9 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:36:12 -0800 (AKDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Redirect output Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:36:12 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041620361200.85720@galaxy.anchoragerescue.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm logged on one of my remote machines via telnet. How do I redirect the output of a command from the terminal to a file? I know this is a simple question, but I missed it along the way somewhere. TIA - Beech -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - IT Manager - Instructor - akbeech@anchoragerescue.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Anchorage Gospel Rescue Mission \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | P.O. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 21:44:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (web804.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BE4537B440 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:44:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mol666@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 19733 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Apr 2001 04:44:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20010417044452.19732.qmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.191.173.79] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:44:52 PDT Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:44:52 -0700 (PDT) From: alissa bader Subject: Re: can't get ports collection to work To: kstewart@urx.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3ADBC489.1657DB27@urx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Kent Stewart wrote: > Nothing, you have an old setup, which means you have > a couple of dirctories > present that are no longer used. Brett Taylor posted > this a couple of days > ago. > > Try cd /usr/ports/ && rm -rf */*/work > */*/patches thanks very much for the assistance. I tried that, but I still cannot make a port (get the same "old setup" messages as I do before). time to cvsup again? Or, perhaps time to upgrade the OS in the first place? : --alissa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 21:45:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hecky.it.northwestern.edu (hecky.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282F137B443 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:45:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by hecky.it.northwestern.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA14605; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:45:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from confusion.net (dhcp089069.res-hall.nwu.edu [199.74.89.69]) by hecky.acns.nwu.edu via smap (V2.0) id xma014559; Mon, 16 Apr 01 23:45:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3ADBCA18.CEA0FCFF@confusion.net> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:44:08 -0500 From: Laurence Berland X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@sysmach.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the complete freebsd 3rd edition References: <20010417035305.268242747@sitemail.everyone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The 4th CD should say 4. Don't despair, cdrom.com is amazingly good about sending you the right CD if things get messed up, so drop them a line and enjoy... L: Kyle wrote: > > I just received the book I ordered by mail today "the complete freebsd, third edition" by Greg Lehey. > > It came with 4 CDs; > > 1. CD 1, Intel Installation Boot CD, Packages, X11 > 2. CD 2, Alpha installation, Live filesystem, CVS repository, Web pages. > 3. CD 3, Packages/Ports > 4. CD 3, Packages/Ports > > The 3rd and 4th CD looked identical. I was wondering if this is made on purpose, or have I got the wrong CD. Thanks. > > My computer is down ATM, so I didnt check it out yet. > > == > _____________________________________________ > > /"\ ASCII Ribbon campaign against E-Mail > \ / in gratuitous HTML and Microsoft > X proprietary formats. > / \ > > _____________________________________________________________ > Systems at MACHSPEED!! > http://sysmach.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland Intern, Flooz.com Northwestern '04 stuyman@confusion.net http://www.isp.northwestern.edu/~laurence "The world has turned and left me here" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 21:53: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDA937B440 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AC2736C0290; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:52:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3ADBCC27.211EC212@urx.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:52:55 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alissa bader Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't get ports collection to work References: <20010417044452.19732.qmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG alissa bader wrote: > > --- Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Nothing, you have an old setup, which means you have > > a couple of dirctories > > present that are no longer used. Brett Taylor posted > > this a couple of days > > ago. > > > > Try cd /usr/ports/ && rm -rf */*/work > > */*/patches > > thanks very much for the assistance. I tried that, > but I still cannot make a port (get the same "old > setup" messages as I do before). time to cvsup again? > Or, perhaps time to upgrade the OS in the first > place? : Nothing to do with the OS. There is only a tag=. version of the ports. If you are cvsup'ing ports-all, you could always rm -rf * from the port directory that your are trying to install and then recvsup. A few people are cd /usr/ports and rm -rf * and recvsup. This is sort of like trying to shoot a mouse with an elephant gun. I tend towards the more elegant solution of only deleting what you have to delete. Kent Kent > > --alissa > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 22:14:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zcamail04.zca.compaq.com (zcamail04.zca.compaq.com [161.114.32.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2298437B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:14:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vasu.kulkarni@digital.com) Received: by zcamail04.zca.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 5D51B10F4; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from taynzmail03.nz-tay.cpqcorp.net (taynzmail03.nz-tay.cpqcorp.net [16.47.4.103]) by zcamail04.zca.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFBBF12D7 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by taynzmail03.nz-tay.cpqcorp.net (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 79F7D24F; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:14:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from diexch01.xko.dec.com (diexch01.xko.dec.com [16.168.64.114]) by taynzmail03.nz-tay.cpqcorp.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3FC2E9 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from digital.com (16.168.64.133 [16.168.64.133]) by diexch01.xko.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 29CYNDR4; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:44:52 +0530 Message-ID: <3ADBD27A.A78C3A48@digital.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:49:54 +0530 From: Vasu Kulkarni Organization: dec X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fdisk failing to create partition for bsd Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0E4626F907F116178F4C5335" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0E4626F907F116178F4C5335 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, This is my first mail to this list. I recently brought freebsd 4.1 cd and tried to install on my p-3 machine which already has windows-nt and linux7.0(lilo boot loader). but the problem is its failing to create a partition. This is my fdisk partition screen FDISK PARTION Disk Geometry 1292 cycls/240 heads/ 63 sector = 1953504 sectors (9538MB) OFFSET SIZE END NAME PTYPE DESC SUBTYPE 0 63 62 - 6 unused 0 63 4173057 4173119 ad0s1 2 fat 6 4173120 4596480 8769599 ad0s2 1 ext2fs 131 8769600 10765440 19535039 ad0s3 4 extended 5 19535040 6048 19541087 - 6 unused 6 when i try to delete the partition with SIZE 6048, it says its unused. and when i try to create Partion(for SIZE 6048) it simple returns the same screen without any modification. please tell me how to solve the problem. even i tried by allocating the free space to fat type in windows-nt and then rebooting. it still does not work it shows the same screen. Regards Vasu K. --------------0E4626F907F116178F4C5335 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vasu.kulkarni.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Vasu Kulkarni Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vasu.kulkarni.vcf" begin:vcard n:Kulkarni;Vasu x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:DEC;Platforms and Middleware adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:vasu.kulkarni@digital.com title:SE x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Vasu Kulkarni end:vcard --------------0E4626F907F116178F4C5335-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 22:20:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C0D37B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:20:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1837D66E07; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:20:38 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Flemming_Fr=F8kj=E6r?= Cc: Lu!s Croker , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bind is Dying Message-ID: <20010416222037.A20315@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <4.1.20010416151348.00a819c0@sleipner.eiffel.dk> <4.1.20010416155817.01695d50@sleipner.eiffel.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.1.20010416155817.01695d50@sleipner.eiffel.dk>; from flemming@froekjaer.org on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 04:00:15PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 04:00:15PM -0700, Flemming Fr=F8kj=E6r wrote: > Is this wersion OK? >=20 > Apr 15 16:52:31 uriha named[62885]: starting. named 8.2.3-T6B Tue Jan 16 > 22:07:01 PST 2001=20 Read the advisory released 3 months ago, please. Kris --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE629KlWry0BWjoQKURApqqAKC40unTIz0A68WgVfumiNNDGaWFZACbBfej 0oYJg7oQR8AnyOb3UO1w+yQ= =Ykj3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 22:25: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.synergy.com.au (mail.synergy.com.au [202.138.24.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094C737B449; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:24:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from GavinCameron@synergy.com.au) Received: from SYNPROD.SYN.COM.AU (synprod.syn.com.au [172.18.1.60]) by mail.synergy.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19534; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:20:01 +1000 Subject: Adaptec ASC-29160 To: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: From: GavinCameron@synergy.com.au Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:24:29 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NOTES1/Synergy(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 17/04/2001 03:24:31 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know whether or not the Adaptec ASC-29160 SCSI will work with 4.2 or the upcoming 4.3? Thanks in advance Gavin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 22:28:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.2.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 598CD37B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:28:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tobin@mail.eecis.udel.edu) Received: from ren.eecis.udel.edu by mail.eecis.udel.edu id aa20006; 17 Apr 2001 01:27 EDT Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:27:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Elliot L. Tobin" X-X-Sender: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at mail.eecis.udel.edu Subject: NFS Server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have configured my FreeBSD 4.3-RC box as a NFS Server, and I have added two machines (hostA and hostB) into my /etc/hosts, yet when I start mountd, it compalins about my /etc/exports saying "bad exports list line in /usr/local/www/data/images Here in my /etc/exports: /usr/local/www/data/images -alldirs hostA hostB My /etc/hosts is: xxx.yyy.zzz.aaa hostA.fqdn hostA aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd hostB.fqdn hostB ------ What am I missing? Or what could be wrong with my /etc/exports file? Thanks for the help.. ------------------------------------------------------> Elliot L. Tobin - UD/CS '02 Univ. of Delaware - Computer Science, Economics -----------------------------------------------------> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 22:40:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe69.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.148.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B8837B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billiard73@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:40:11 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [24.163.245.99] From: "Joe Mahma" To: Subject: natd help! Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:43:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0C6D7.67678640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Apr 2001 05:40:11.0606 (UTC) FILETIME=[DEAB2760:01C0C700] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0C6D7.67678640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm trying to get a simple firewall/local-caching nameserver/natd box = running so that I can connect to the internet from an internal network = out through the BSD box to the internet. This is harder than it sounds, especially to me and I wonder if anyone = can help out. I've bashed my head against the wall long enough and it's = starting to hurt! Right now all I can to is to get the boxes talking through the Apache = Proxy server that I built, but other tcp connections can;t be pushed = through. Does anyone have a comprehensive set of firewall rules they can send = that I can look over to see what I may be able to use in my situation? = I have looked, but haven't been able to find all that I need to get it = working right. =20 Regards, -Joe ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0C6D7.67678640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm trying to get a simple = firewall/local-caching=20 nameserver/natd box running so that I can connect to the internet from = an=20 internal network out through the BSD box to the internet.
 
This is harder than it sounds, = especially to me and=20 I wonder if anyone can help out.  I've bashed my head against the = wall long=20 enough and it's starting to hurt!
 
Right now all I can to is to get the = boxes talking=20 through the Apache Proxy server that I built, but other tcp connections = can;t be=20 pushed through.
 
Does anyone have a comprehensive set of = firewall=20 rules they can send that I can look over to see what I may be able to = use in my=20 situation?  I have looked, but haven't been able to find all that I = need to=20 get it working right. 
 
Regards,
 
-Joe
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0C6D7.67678640-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 23:21:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from omta03.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C409137B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:21:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@sysmach.com) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta03.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2133849D30 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 0738136F9; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:17:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Kyle To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Reply-To: freebsd@sysmach.com X-Originating-Ip: [204.196.181.60] Message-Id: <20010417061759.0738136F9@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I read that FreeBSD is aimed more at Intel CPUs, and I wonder if I made the right decision in the first place. Does AMD work fine with FreeBSD? Thanks. == _____________________________________________ /"\ ASCII Ribbon campaign against E-Mail \ / in gratuitous HTML and Microsoft X proprietary formats. / \ _____________________________________________________________ Systems at MACHSPEED!! http://sysmach.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 23:24:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F1037B42C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:24:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 154D466D8B; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:24:15 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Kyle Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010416232415.A21202@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010417061759.0738136F9@sitemail.everyone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010417061759.0738136F9@sitemail.everyone.net>; from freebsd@sysmach.com on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:17:58PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:17:58PM -0700, Kyle wrote: > I read that FreeBSD is aimed more at Intel CPUs, and I wonder if I made the right decision in the first place. Does AMD work fine with FreeBSD? Thanks. Of course :-) Kris --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE62+GPWry0BWjoQKURAvATAJ4zma/cozsSS2EqnjFDTKPu3gnzmQCg9bnV RRmXb8+Z0KiW8oG7zQ+8rYY= =VkBG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Apr 16 23:53:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F3337B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3H6rOg72416; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:53:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:53:24 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AGP module ? Message-ID: <20010417085324.C72128@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <987448873.3adb46297fd9a@webmail.neomedia.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <987448873.3adb46297fd9a@webmail.neomedia.it>; from bartequi@neomedia.it on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:21:13PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:21:13PM +0200, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > > You need to do this: > > > # cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 (1) > > # make WITH_MATROX_GXX_DRIVER=yes install > > # kldload agp > > # kldload mga > > By the way, I've got a Matrox G400 (32MB, 300MHz). I had read some material > in the archives a while ago, and indeed the recipe outlined above makes > those steps automatic :-) It is only since march 13th that Jean-Marc committed these bits. > I would like to add a couple of remarks. > > 1) Under -CURRENT, DRI no longer works. The modules are not built at all. I > seem to understand that DRI is incompatible with SMP stuff (some old > syscalls are no longer present). That is so since april 10th. Search freebsd-cvs for the details. > 2) Under FreeBSD-4.3RC, sources as of April 12 (approximately) midnight, > kldloading agp and then mga makes the kernel complain about the loading order > (which is actually correct); subsequently launching KDE2 just causes the > system to reboot. Hmm, strange - I've device agp in my kernel, and I can kldload mga just fine after I've booted (I haven't tried unloading yet). Also I seem to remember kldloading agp, then mga. Maybe you meant kldloading mga first, then agp? > OTOH, if the modules are loaded **at boot time**, the kernel recognizes my > card and everything appears to work correctly (at 16bpp, though). I think the modules are then loaded, and only later initialized; with kldload they are initialized immediately. --Stijn -- I wish there was a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence. There's a knob called `brightness', but it doesn't work." -- Gallagher To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 0: 5:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DECF37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:05:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA59833; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:05:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:05:18 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Beech Rintoul Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redirect output In-Reply-To: <01041620361200.85720@galaxy.anchoragerescue.org> Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Beech Rintoul wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > Hi, > I'm logged on one of my remote machines via telnet. How do I redirect > the output of a command from the terminal to a file? I know this is a > simple question, but I missed it along the way somewhere. That IS a simple question. Just to be cheeky, I'm going to give you a long answer ;-) (If you want the gory details of how your shell handles redirection, read manpages for sh(1), csh(1), etc) But, to give you the simple answer, you can use the > operator in all user shells to redirect standard output to a file. So, if you want to dump the contents of a directory to a file, try this command: ls > ls.out ls.out will then contain the output of the ls command--one file per line. If you only log the output of simple commands, you can safely stop reading here. If thou seeketh a more gory response, read on. ------------------------------------------------------------------- The above command redirects standard output only. There is another "output" buffer, called "standard error", to which error messages (or just really important things) are written. If you attempt to redirect standard output, but you still see output on your terminal screen from that application, the output was most likely sent to standard error. To catch standard error by itself, use 2> (filename). If you want to send stderr and stdout to the same place, use >(filename) 2>&1 (order is important, and the "why" is getting quite far removed from the scope of your question, but if you're interested, I can certainly explain it better). This leads to my next point: If you want to get more complex than logging the output of a simple "command" (i.e., you want to make a log of something interactive, like running fsck(8) to fix filesystem errors), use script(1). Type "script" at your prompt first before you do your interactive tasks. When you are finished, type "exit" at the prompt, and whatever you did (including everything you typed--as well as all of your typing mistakes ;-) will be contained in a file called "typescript", unless you specified a different file. Read script(1) for more details. There is also a very handy and unique construct in UNIX known as a pipe. Pipes allow you to, well, "make a pipeline", between successive commands. That is, all of the output from one command will be sent as input to the next command. A simple example of a typical pipe would be the problem of counting the number of files in a directory. The UNIX command wc(1) ("word count") counts the number of lines, words, and characters in a file. The pipe (note the "|" operator--this is the pipe symbol). ls | wc -l ls lists the contents of the directory, and sends its output to wc. wc takes that input, and (thanks to the -l) parameter), dutifully counts the lines and writes them to the terminal. > > TIA - Beech > > Hope this helps, - Ryan "that WAS the short version" Thompson -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 0: 5:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C743E37B43C; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:05:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hopet@chemi.muni.cz) Received: from bilbo.chemi.muni.cz (bilbo.chemi.muni.cz [147.251.28.2]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24979; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:05:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from arwen (arwen.ics.muni.cz [147.251.3.20]) by bilbo.chemi.muni.cz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA06923; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:05:21 +0200 (MEST) From: "Petr Holub" To: , Subject: Re: Dell C600 XFree86 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:09:40 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c0c70d$5e906ec0$1403fb93@arwen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Is it any one who has a worked XF86Config file for Dell C600 with ATI Rage > > 128 Mobility. > i too am seeking an answer to this four month old message from the archives. My friend has working X 4.0.x on C600 - I'll send the config as soon as I get it from him. Petr ================================================================ Petr Holub Masaryk University Dept. Physical Chemistry Supercomputing Centre Brno Faculty of Science Institute of Compt. Science Kotlarska 2, 61137 Brno, CZ Botanicka 68a, 60200 Brno, CZ phone: +420-5-41129312 phone: +420-5-41512278 e-mail: hopet@chemi.muni.cz e-mail: hopet@ics.muni.cz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 0: 7: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from benny.geektank.org (00-04-ac-38-0e-e8.bconnected.net [209.53.63.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EB637B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:06:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by benny.geektank.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3H76iw13472 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:06:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: benny.geektank.org: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:06:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow X-X-Sender: To: Subject: upgrading ports... Message-ID: <20010417000419.I13449-100000@benny.geektank.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I was following the thread a few days ago in which someone gave some good instructions on how to upgrade a port while keeping the dependencies (eg. update the +CONTENTS and +REQUIRED by in teh appropriate dirs). There has got to be a better way to do this than editing each +CONTENTS file by hand! For example, some ports have like 10 package dependencies.. (eg. XFree 86). Anyone with some advice here? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 0: 9:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from isy.liu.se (isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009FC37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:09:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mj@isy.liu.se) Received: from lagrange.isy.liu.se (lagrange.isy.liu.se [130.236.49.127]) by isy.liu.se (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3H79X903419; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:09:33 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:10:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Micke Josefsson To: Kenneth Wayne Culver Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Pim Bliek Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 16-Apr-01 Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > You can use it on XFree86 4.0.2 or higher I believe... using the nv > driver. However, there is no overlay support or 3d support because nvidia > hasn't yet released the FreeBSD version of their linux drivers... > > Ken > Which is a pity since there can be no hope of getting Quake running without GL-support :(:(:( ---------------------------------- Michael Josefsson, MSEE mj@isy.liu.se This message was sent by XFMail running on FreeBSD 4.3-RC ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 0: 9:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from benny.geektank.org (00-04-ac-38-0e-e8.bconnected.net [209.53.63.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD3537B443 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:09:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by benny.geektank.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3H79or13495 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:09:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: benny.geektank.org: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:09:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Why do all ports want Xfree86 3.3.6_8? Message-ID: <20010417000645.O13449-100000@benny.geektank.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While I was browsing the +CONTENTS in a bunch of ports in /var/db/pkg, i noticed that a huge number of ports depend on XFree86 3.3.6_8. I"m just wondering why this is the case. I have XFree8i6 4.0.3_3 installed, and when I tried installing the MTR port (/usr/ports/net/mtr), it kept looking for some gtk library -- so I had to installed gtk 1.2. After looking at the dependencies for mtr, I noticed that even the mtr port depends on Xfree86 3.3.6_8! Why would all these ports depend on a version of Xfree86 that I don't even have installed? Should I manually change these depencies to 4.0.3_3? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 0:16:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from isy.liu.se (isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DAC37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:16:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mj@isy.liu.se) Received: from lagrange.isy.liu.se (lagrange.isy.liu.se [130.236.49.127]) by isy.liu.se (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3H7FU903596; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:15:30 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:16:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Micke Josefsson To: Harkirat Singh Subject: RE: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE Cc: uwi@delfi.lv, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 14-Apr-01 Harkirat Singh wrote: > > I guess that my message was not clear that's why I am posting it once > again... > > > Dear Friends: > > Hello! > > I have a laptop running with subject mentioned release, I wanted > to get some files using "/stand/sysintall"(which got failed and hence I am > in this news group). > > I guess that none of the mirroe sites and even parent > site supports this release, because I was getting a warning message! > > Is there any way to get system files for FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE from any ftp > site, **I have tried ftp.freebsd.org and all the other alternative sites > **, as I said above I was getting warning that this site does'nt support > the requested release, try some other freebsd site**. When in /stand/sysinstall, goto the Options menu and enter 3.x-STABLE instead of 3.2-RELEASE. Now you should be able to get packages and stuff working. Another way to deal with this is to cvsup your sources to 3.x-STABLE and rebuilding your system. Unless of course you are willing to do a complete new install. Exactly which 'system files' do you need? ---------------------------------- Michael Josefsson, MSEE mj@isy.liu.se This message was sent by XFMail running on FreeBSD 4.3-RC ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 0:42:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ausmtp01.au.ibm.com (ausmtp01.au.ibm.COM [202.135.136.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7328037B43E for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:42:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kjayesh@in.ibm.com) Received: from f03n07e.au.ibm.com by ausmtp01.au.ibm.com (IBM AP 1.0) with ESMTP id RAA40250 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:30:05 +1000 From: kjayesh@in.ibm.com Received: from d73mta05.au.ibm.com (f06n05s [9.185.166.67]) by f03n07e.au.ibm.com (8.8.8m3/NCO v4.96) with SMTP id RAA89002 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:42:48 +1000 Received: by d73mta05.au.ibm.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id CA256A31.002A5C87 ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:42:42 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMIN@IBMAU To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:04:57 +0530 Subject: Query regding mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi.... I have some queries regding device drivers in FreeBSD. Which mailing list should i post the messages to ? Regards, Jayesh Krishna TCP/IP Team IBM India To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 0:44:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from deepblue.everad.com (deepblue.everad.com [212.117.137.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC69237B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:44:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DanielM@EverAd.com) Received: from ilexc01.everad.com ([10.72.6.6]) by deepblue.everad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:46:51 +0200 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FW: freenix.everad.com security check output X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:44:25 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: freenix.everad.com security check output Thread-Index: AcDG4unh3cJIM2UGQFyQ1IcgasJK1gANzqAg From: "Daniel Mester" To: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, i just updated from 4.2 release to 4.3-RC and security output check showed me a lot of "setuided" changes (you can see it below) - is it normal? Thanks, Daniel. > -----Original Message----- > From: root@freenix.everad.com [mailto:root@freenix.everad.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:06 AM > Subject: freenix.everad.com security check output >=20 >=20 > Checking setuid files and devices: >=20 >=20 > freenix.everad.com setuid diffs: > 1,56c1,55 > < 14349 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root operator 57076 Nov 20 13:59:17=20 > 2000 /bin/df > < 14362 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 319548 Nov 20 14:06:07=20 > 2000 /bin/rcp > < 35900 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 62944 Nov 20 14:00:57=20 > 2000 /sbin/ccdconfig > < 35906 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 69604 Nov 20 14:00:58=20 > 2000 /sbin/dmesg > < 35969 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 331452 Nov 20 14:06:51=20 > 2000 /sbin/dump > < 35945 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 195812 Nov 20 14:01:09=20 > 2000 /sbin/ping > < 35946 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 191012 Nov 20 14:01:09=20 > 2000 /sbin/ping6 > < 35969 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 331452 Nov 20 14:06:51=20 > 2000 /sbin/rdump > < 35907 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 358284 Nov 20 14:06:55=20 > 2000 /sbin/restore > < 35950 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 191924 Nov 20 14:01:10=20 > 2000 /sbin/route > < 35907 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 358284 Nov 20 14:06:55=20 > 2000 /sbin/rrestore > < 35955 -r-sr-x--- 1 root operator 164668 Nov 20 14:01:11=20 > 2000 /sbin/shutdown > < 8035 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Nov 20 14:01:51=20 > 2000 /usr/bin/at > < 8035 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Nov 20 14:01:51=20 > 2000 /usr/bin/atq > < 8035 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Nov 20 14:01:51 2000=20 > /usr/bin/atrm > < 8035 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Nov 20 14:01:51 2000=20 > /usr/bin/batch > < 8047 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32184 Nov 20 14:01:52 2000=20 > /usr/bin/chfn > < 8047 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32184 Nov 20 14:01:52 2000=20 > /usr/bin/chpass > < 8047 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32184 Nov 20 14:01:52 2000=20 > /usr/bin/chsh > < 8241 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24508 Nov 20=20 > 14:02:26 2000 /usr/bin/crontab > < 7937 -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 123824 Nov 20 13:59:39=20 > 2000 /usr/bin/cu > < 8075 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 13108 Nov 20 14:01:56 2000=20 > /usr/bin/fstat > < 8090 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 9832 Nov 20 14:01:57 2000=20 > /usr/bin/ipcs > < 8096 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 510 Nov 20 14:01:58 2000=20 > /usr/bin/keyinfo > < 8097 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7444 Nov 20 14:01:58 2000=20 > /usr/bin/keyinit > < 8114 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7004 Nov 20 14:02:00 2000=20 > /usr/bin/lock > < 8117 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 19764 Nov 20 14:06:42 2000=20 > /usr/bin/login > < 8246 -r-sr-sr-x 1 root daemon 20008 Nov 20=20 > 14:02:48 2000 /usr/bin/lpq > < 8247 -r-sr-sr-x 1 root daemon 23368 Nov 20=20 > 14:02:48 2000 /usr/bin/lpr > < 8248 -r-sr-sr-x 1 root daemon 19372 Nov 20=20 > 14:02:48 2000 /usr/bin/lprm > < 7989 -r-sr-xr-x 1 man wheel 28512 Nov 20 14:00:02=20 > 2000 /usr/bin/man > < 8136 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 85104 Nov 20 14:02:07 2000=20 > /usr/bin/netstat > < 8138 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 9904 Nov 20 14:02:07 2000=20 > /usr/bin/nfsstat > < 8264 -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 30540 Nov 20 14:06:44 2000=20 > /usr/bin/passwd > < 8151 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10440 Nov 20 14:02:08 2000=20 > /usr/bin/quota > < 8146 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 17244 Nov 20 14:06:45 2000=20 > /usr/bin/rlogin > < 8155 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14460 Nov 20=20 > 14:06:48 2000 /usr/bin/rsh > < 8269 -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 170136 Nov 20=20 > 14:11:20 2000 /usr/bin/slogin > < 8269 -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 170136 Nov 20=20 > 14:11:20 2000 /usr/bin/ssh > < 8159 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11560 Nov 20=20 > 14:06:49 2000 /usr/bin/su > < 8174 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 56112 Nov 20=20 > 14:02:11 2000 /usr/bin/systat > < 8182 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 32312 Nov 20=20 > 14:02:12 2000 /usr/bin/top > < 7938 -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 88228 Nov 20 13:59:40=20 > 2000 /usr/bin/uucp > < 7940 -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 37312 Nov 20 13:59:40=20 > 2000 /usr/bin/uuname > < 7943 -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 96752 Nov 20 13:59:41=20 > 2000 /usr/bin/uustat > < 7945 -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 88844 Nov 20 13:59:41=20 > 2000 /usr/bin/uux > < 8207 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 15920 Nov 20=20 > 14:02:15 2000 /usr/bin/vmstat > < 8209 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root tty 9072 Nov 20=20 > 14:02:16 2000 /usr/bin/wall > < 8217 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root tty 7500 Nov 20=20 > 14:02:17 2000 /usr/bin/write > < 8047 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32184 Nov 20 14:01:52 2000=20 > /usr/bin/ypchfn > < 8047 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32184 Nov 20 14:01:52 2000=20 > /usr/bin/ypchpass > < 8047 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32184 Nov 20 14:01:52 2000=20 > /usr/bin/ypchsh > < 8264 -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 30540 Nov 20 14:06:44 2000=20 > /usr/bin/yppasswd > < 1269761 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 396564 Nov 20=20 > 14:02:50 2000 /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail > < 1285633 -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 220672 Nov 20=20 > 13:59:40 2000 /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico > < 1285634 -r-sr-s--- 1 uucp uucp 99552 Nov 20=20 > 13:59:41 2000 /usr/libexec/uucp/uuxqt > --- > > 14349 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root operator 56892 Apr 16 08:56:28=20 > 2001 /bin/df > > 14361 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 242780 Apr 16 08:56:34=20 > 2001 /bin/rcp > > 35900 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 62792 Apr 16 08:59:17=20 > 2001 /sbin/ccdconfig > > 35906 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 69512 Apr 16 08:59:20=20 > 2001 /sbin/dmesg > > 35998 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 258616 Apr 16 08:59:21=20 > 2001 /sbin/dump > > 35944 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 196376 Apr 16 08:59:40=20 > 2001 /sbin/ping > > 35945 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 191380 Apr 16 08:59:40=20 > 2001 /sbin/ping6 > > 35998 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 258616 Apr 16 08:59:21=20 > 2001 /sbin/rdump > > 35948 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 284728 Apr 16 08:59:42=20 > 2001 /sbin/restore > > 35942 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 192484 Apr 16 08:59:42=20 > 2001 /sbin/route > > 35948 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 284728 Apr 16 08:59:42=20 > 2001 /sbin/rrestore > > 35954 -r-sr-x--- 1 root operator 165008 Apr 16 08:59:44=20 > 2001 /sbin/shutdown > > 7980 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Apr 16 09:00:54=20 > 2001 /usr/bin/at > > 7980 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Apr 16 09:00:54=20 > 2001 /usr/bin/atq > > 7980 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Apr 16 09:00:54 2001=20 > /usr/bin/atrm > > 7980 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Apr 16 09:00:54 2001=20 > /usr/bin/batch > > 7994 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 16 09:00:57 2001=20 > /usr/bin/chfn > > 7994 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 16 09:00:57 2001=20 > /usr/bin/chpass > > 7994 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 16 09:00:57 2001=20 > /usr/bin/chsh > > 8045 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24508 Apr 16=20 > 09:01:46 2001 /usr/bin/crontab > > 8519 -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 123888 Apr 16 08:57:07=20 > 2001 /usr/bin/cu > > 8027 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 13108 Apr 16 09:01:06 2001=20 > /usr/bin/fstat > > 8587 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 9832 Apr 16 09:01:08 2001=20 > /usr/bin/ipcs > > 8585 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 510 Apr 16 09:01:09 2001=20 > /usr/bin/keyinfo > > 8592 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7444 Apr 16 09:01:09 2001=20 > /usr/bin/keyinit > > 8611 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7004 Apr 16 09:01:12 2001=20 > /usr/bin/lock > > 8594 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20436 Apr 16 09:01:12 2001=20 > /usr/bin/login > > 8052 -r-sr-sr-x 1 root daemon 23720 Apr 16=20 > 09:02:19 2001 /usr/bin/lpq > > 8051 -r-sr-sr-x 1 root daemon 27304 Apr 16=20 > 09:02:20 2001 /usr/bin/lpr > > 8055 -r-sr-sr-x 1 root daemon 22668 Apr 16=20 > 09:02:20 2001 /usr/bin/lprm > > 7945 -r-sr-xr-x 1 man wheel 28512 Apr 16 08:57:50=20 > 2001 /usr/bin/man > > 8636 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 85648 Apr 16 09:01:16 2001=20 > /usr/bin/netstat > > 8635 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 9936 Apr 16 09:01:17 2001=20 > /usr/bin/nfsstat > > 8646 -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 26660 Apr 16 09:01:18 2001=20 > /usr/bin/passwd > > 8651 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10440 Apr 16 09:01:19 2001=20 > /usr/bin/quota > > 8650 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10216 Apr 16 09:01:20 2001=20 > /usr/bin/rlogin > > 8014 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7584 Apr 16=20 > 09:01:21 2001 /usr/bin/rsh > > 8658 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8168 Apr 16=20 > 09:01:22 2001 /usr/bin/su > > 8668 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 56144 Apr 16=20 > 09:01:23 2001 /usr/bin/systat > > 8679 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 32344 Apr 16=20 > 09:01:24 2001 /usr/bin/top > > 8520 -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 88228 Apr 16 08:57:09=20 > 2001 /usr/bin/uucp > > 8524 -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 37312 Apr 16 08:57:09=20 > 2001 /usr/bin/uuname > > 8033 -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 96752 Apr 16 08:57:10=20 > 2001 /usr/bin/uustat > > 8525 -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 88844 Apr 16 08:57:10=20 > 2001 /usr/bin/uux > > 8700 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 16368 Apr 16=20 > 09:01:29 2001 /usr/bin/vmstat > > 8699 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root tty 9040 Apr 16=20 > 09:01:29 2001 /usr/bin/wall > > 8712 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root tty 7500 Apr 16=20 > 09:01:31 2001 /usr/bin/write > > 7994 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 16 09:00:57 2001=20 > /usr/bin/ypchfn > > 7994 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 16 09:00:57 2001=20 > /usr/bin/ypchpass > > 7994 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 16 09:00:57 2001=20 > /usr/bin/ypchsh > > 8646 -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 26660 Apr 16 09:01:18 2001=20 > /usr/bin/yppasswd > > 540243 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root games 7176 Apr 16 08:56:47=20 > 2001 /usr/games/dm > > 1270174 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 398740 Apr 16=20 > 09:02:22 2001 /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail > > 1286177 -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 220704 Apr 16=20 > 08:57:08 2001 /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico > > 1286178 -r-sr-s--- 1 uucp uucp 99584 Apr 16=20 > 08:57:10 2001 /usr/libexec/uucp/uuxqt > 60,73c59,72 > < 1301549 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 4664 Nov 20=20 > 14:02:28 2000 /usr/sbin/ifmcstat > < 1301551 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 9608 Nov 20 14:02:28=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/iostat > < 1301663 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root daemon 27028 Nov 20 14:02:48=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/lpc > < 1301569 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16348 Nov 20 14:02:30=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/mrinfo > < 1301571 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 29896 Nov 20 14:02:33=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/mtrace > < 1301706 -r-sr-xr-- 1 root network 283624 Nov 20 14:02:39=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/ppp > < 1301707 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 95580 Nov 20 14:02:39=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/pppd > < 1301605 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root kmem 14584 Nov 20 14:02:39=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/pstat > < 1301627 -r-sr-x--- 1 root network 10984 Nov 20 14:02:42=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/sliplogin > < 1301605 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root kmem 14584 Nov 20 14:02:39=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/swapinfo > < 1301635 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15112 Nov 20 14:02:43=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/timedc > < 1301636 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13168 Nov 20 14:02:44=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/traceroute > < 1301637 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 14952 Nov 20 14:02:44=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/traceroute6 > < 1301638 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 8040 Nov 20 14:02:44=20 > 2000 /usr/sbin/trpt > --- > > 1302170 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 4664 Apr 16=20 > 09:01:49 2001 /usr/sbin/ifmcstat > > 1302162 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 9608 Apr 16=20 > 09:01:50 2001 /usr/sbin/iostat > > 1301571 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root daemon 30196 Apr 16 09:02:19=20 > 2001 /usr/sbin/lpc > > 1302184 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16348 Apr 16=20 > 09:01:54 2001 /usr/sbin/mrinfo > > 1302192 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 29896 Apr 16 09:01:54=20 > 2001 /usr/sbin/mtrace > > 1302227 -r-sr-xr-- 1 root network 295124 Apr 16 09:02:05=20 > 2001 /usr/sbin/ppp > > 1302222 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 95388 Apr 16 09:02:06=20 > 2001 /usr/sbin/pppd > > 1302233 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root kmem 14808 Apr 16 09:02:06=20 > 2001 /usr/sbin/pstat > > 1302249 -r-sr-x--- 1 root network 11112 Apr 16 09:02:10=20 > 2001 /usr/sbin/sliplogin > > 1302233 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root kmem 14808 Apr 16 09:02:06=20 > 2001 /usr/sbin/swapinfo > > 1302262 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15112 Apr 16 09:02:12=20 > 2001 /usr/sbin/timedc > > 1302264 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13168 Apr 16 09:02:12=20 > 2001 /usr/sbin/traceroute > > 1302258 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 14952 Apr 16 09:02:12=20 > 2001 /usr/sbin/traceroute6 > > 1302265 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 8040 Apr 16 09:02:13=20 > 2001 /usr/sbin/trpt >=20 >=20 > freenix.everad.com changes in mounted filesystems: > 5d4 > < /dev/acd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro 0 0 >=20 >=20 > Checking for uids of 0: > root 0 > toor 0 >=20 >=20 > Checking for passwordless accounts: >=20 >=20 =20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 0:46: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BDA37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:46:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3H7iOk33436; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:44:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Roberto Diaz" , Subject: RE: isa ne-200 irq problems. Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:44:24 -0700 Message-ID: <005701c0c712$38d51000$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There's a DOS utility that can configure some of these PnP NE2000 compatibles, go to http://www.windrivers.com then click on Advanced Search, then N, then select NE2000 Compatible and download the config program there. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Roberto Diaz >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 6:41 AM >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: isa ne-200 irq problems. > > >Hi.. > >I am trying to configure an old 486 box this box has an old isa ne-2000 >network card clone.. > >I am having troubles since the card is not configured with the correct >parameters (i/o, irq, etc..) > >In Linux I have pnpdump.. do I have something similar under freebsd? > >I have tryed also help pnpscan at system boot.. and pnpscan but it seems >it is not being able to find a pnp card attached at the ISA bus.. > >It strange because the last thing this box had installed was linux.. and >the network was working.. I dont remember very well but I think I had no >problem and that I was using pnptools.. :?? > > >Regards > >Roberto > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Roberto Diaz >http://vivaldi.dhis.org >Powered by GNU running on a Linux kernel. >Powered by Debian (The real wonder) > >Concerto Grosso Op. 3/8 A minor >Antonio Vivaldi (so... do you need beautiful words?) >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 1: 4:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay3.adelphia.net (smtprelay3.adelphia.net [64.8.25.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430F237B440 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:04:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from adelphia.net ([24.50.186.158]) by smtprelay3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GBXFQV00.4PI for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:04:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3ADBF9A5.D2D0B513@adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:07:01 -0400 From: Nader Turki X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ProFTPD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi there, i installed ProFTPD from the ports but it's not workin' do i have to do anything else other than make; make install; make clean? thanks, nader To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 1:14:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9107037B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA79426; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:14:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:14:16 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: "Elliot L. Tobin" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS Server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Elliot L. Tobin wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > I have configured my FreeBSD 4.3-RC box as a NFS Server, and I have added > two machines (hostA and hostB) into my /etc/hosts, yet when I start > mountd, it compalins about my /etc/exports saying "bad exports list line > in /usr/local/www/data/images > > Here in my /etc/exports: > > /usr/local/www/data/images -alldirs hostA hostB You didn't specify any credential options. -alldirs just allows clients to mount any subdirectory of the given directory as its own mount point, and says nothing about actual access. You should normally use one of -mapuser, -maproot, or -kerb to specify how client credentials are assigned on the exporting system (or, I suppose, -public, if you really don't care who has write access to the export :-) Without any of those options, the export is ambiguous, and correctly generates an error. Read the man page exports(5) to determine which of the options applies to your situation, and what the option syntax is, or let us know exactly what this export is used for, and we'll be glad to offer you configuration advice. For example, between trusted hosts, this is common: /usr/local/www/data/images -maproot=0 hostA hostB Would allow root on hostA and hostB root access to the NFS export (hostA and hostB should definitely be trusted machines), and map all other client UIDs to UIDs on the server. Hope this helps, - Ryan > My /etc/hosts is: > > xxx.yyy.zzz.aaa hostA.fqdn hostA > aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd hostB.fqdn hostB > > ------ > > What am I missing? Or what could be wrong with my /etc/exports file? > Thanks for the help.. > > ------------------------------------------------------> > Elliot L. Tobin - UD/CS '02 > Univ. of Delaware - Computer Science, Economics > -----------------------------------------------------> > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 1:15:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tethys.valhalla.net (tethys.valhalla.net [195.26.32.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8349137B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:15:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@tethys.valhalla.net) Received: by tethys.valhalla.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id 7C56232E80; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:15:36 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:15:36 +0100 From: Mark Drayton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bind is Dying Message-ID: <20010417091536.A25607@tethys.valhalla.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4.1.20010416151348.00a819c0@sleipner.eiffel.dk> <4.1.20010416155817.01695d50@sleipner.eiffel.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.1.20010416155817.01695d50@sleipner.eiffel.dk>; from flemming@froekjaer.org on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 04:00:15PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Flemming Frøkjær (flemming@froekjaer.org) wrote: > Is this wersion OK? > > Apr 15 16:52:31 uriha named[62885]: starting. named 8.2.3-T6B Tue Jan > 16 22:07:01 PST 2001 No, you need to upgrade to 8.2.3-REL. Please search the archive or read the advisories before asking. This question has been asked at least every other day for the last couple of months. -- Mark Drayton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 1:19:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BDF37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 16D6366E07; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:19:19 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Daniel Mester Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FW: freenix.everad.com security check output Message-ID: <20010417011836.A30352@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from DanielM@EverAd.com on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:44:25AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:44:25AM +0200, Daniel Mester wrote: > Hello all, > i just updated from 4.2 release to 4.3-RC and security output check > showed me a lot of "setuided" changes (you can see it below) - is it > normal? Think about it for a moment: you upgraded your OS, so all of the setuid binaries which are part of FreeBSD were changed, and hence reported the next day by the script which scans for such a thing :-) Kris --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE62/yHWry0BWjoQKURAsMXAJ9O2Uiva2VwTtPxUvuly/bEBgAZjgCgywDA Hj/BnRV8L3FJFJkFBH9yvkI= =M5+Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 1:24:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60ECA37B443 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:24:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA82287; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:23:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:23:57 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: kjayesh@in.ibm.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Query regding mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kjayesh@in.ibm.com wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > hi.... > I have some queries regding device drivers in FreeBSD. Which mailing > list should i post the messages > to ? It depends. The pat answer is "Read the list charters" (see below). If you have a general user question about installing a device driver, configuring a device, or loading a kernel module, -questions is probably a good bet. If you plan on writing driver code for new (not yet supported) hardware, you will want to track -CURRENT, read freebsd-current, freebsd-hackers, and freebsd-hardware. -hardware would probably provide the best forum for general questions about hardware implementation and support. -hackers is a good forum for discussing intimately technical system code issues, including, I suppose, driver coding. Send a message to majordomo@freebsd.org, and put (for example) info freebsd-hardware in the body of your message. I get the freebsd-hardware list charter: -- >>>> info freebsd-hardware FREEBSD-HARDWARE General discussion of FreeBSD hardware General discussion about the types of hardware that FreeBSD runs on, various problems and suggestions concerning what to buy or avoid. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- END OF COMMANDS If you are not already a skilled systems programmer, and you are looking for general information on "how to code/port a driver", etc., you may not find what you are looking for in the lists. Try some mailing list searches (see http://www.freebsd.org/search/) for questions of a similar nature to your own. Hope this helps, - Ryan > Regards, > Jayesh Krishna > TCP/IP Team > IBM India -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 1:26:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B89537B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:26:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA83553; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:25:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Joe Heuring Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: shells In-Reply-To: <20100414174400.B21523@Joe H> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Joe Heuring wrote: > Out of pure curiosity I'm wondering why FreeBSD uses the C-shell as default. Without getting into flame wars here, I think because bash is under the GPL license. Anyway, probably a shell using the same syntax as sh (which is the preferred shell for shell scripts) is desirable. That means bash (or a ksh variant) instead of csh (which is really tcsh on FreeBSD now). And bash has the benefit that it's the default shell for Linux, and if you work in this field you will probably run into some computers running Linux too. And all those Windows boxen. You can install bash (with choices of versions--use bash2) from ports, but you have to provide your own configuration files or find some on the net; Linux ones will work with probably a few changes. Many people also like zsh, but it's sort of "odd" in some ways. Annelise > I have a quick tendency to switch to bash but shortly I expect to be working in the field so I'm wondering how much one would be expected to know the C-shell. > > With out knowing I would expect the C-shell to have a smaller foot print than bash (because it's older) and that maybe certain devices would prefer one shell over the other. But I have no idea really. Can anyone shed any light on this as to how much the C-shell is still and will be used? Thanks. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 1:26:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D24837B440 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:26:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA83532; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:15:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Joe Heuring Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: post installation: leaf node, nfs, ftp, ... In-Reply-To: <20100414181820.D21523@Joe H> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG NFS you want only if you have one or more other computers running some variety of UNIX on the same local network. Then you can mount file systems from the second computer on the first (and vice-versa). The computer "sharing" a file system is the NFS server; the computer mounting the file systems is the client. If your other computers on the local network are Windows computers, you want SAMBA for file sharing. You install SAMBA so that your Windows computers can see files on your FreeBSD computer. If you want the computer running FreeBSD to have access to Windows "shares", you run sharity-lite or smbfs. All of these are available in ports. SAMBA includes smbclient, with which you can also print to a printer attached to a Windows computer (and do it well, with apsfilter, which knows how to use smbclient.) If you say "No" to the question about whether the computer will be a leaf node, it becomes a gateway that can forward packets. If your other computers were accessing the Internet through the computer running FreeBSD, it would need to be a gateway. You can enable this by putting gateway_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf. If you do this during installation or afterward from /stand/sysinstall, I think the option is enabled immediately without rebooting--the equivalent of sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 You can type sysctl -a | grep forward to see if forwarding is enabled (1) or not (0). The equivalent of Shift Page Up is ScrollLock and the arrow keys. Press ScrollLock again to return to the prompt. Annelise On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Joe Heuring wrote: > I sent that off a little to quick. As far as NFS goes, I know what it is but not if I want it. I would like some kind of easy back up routine -not sure if that applies, and not sure if something like Samba might be more desireable. Mostly I'm just concerned about the leaf node question though. > > --------------------------------- > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 05:33:47PM -0700, Joe Heuring wrote: > > Just completed an ftp-install and am at the "User Confirmation Requested". > > > > My goal for this box is to make it a hobby webserver at home that does cgi and database stuff. Probably will not be an ftp server. I want it to be lean and secure. > > > > The first question asks if it will be a leaf node. After searching the FreeBSD site and Google, I still can not say exactly what a leaf node is, let alone if I want it. > > > > I know from previous installs that I'll be asked about NFS and the same applies. Can anyone point to some good basic reading on these. > > > > TIA > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 1:31:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5CD37B440 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:31:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA84675; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:31:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:31:33 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ProFTPD In-Reply-To: <3ADBF9A5.D2D0B513@adelphia.net> Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nader Turki wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > hi there, > i installed ProFTPD from the ports but it's not workin' > do i have to do anything else other than make; make install; make clean? > Yes. Start the daemon, or run it from inetd. It won't start automatically after an install (that would be silly ;-). Disable the old (stock) ftpd in /etc/inetd.conf by commenting out (#) the line that it appears on. If you want to run ProFTPD under inetd, add the appropriate line to /etc/inetd.conf. Something like the following will suffice ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/libexec/ftpd ftpd -a -l Check the location of ProFTPD (I'm guessing, here), and check the suitability of the command line arguments. If, on the other hand, you want to run ProFTPD as a standalone daemon (this works well, too, and is recommended if you run a busy FTP server with many connections), disable the old FTPD in /etc/inetd.conf as described, and then create a script named "proftpd.sh" in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ When ProFTPD installed, it probably put a "proftpd.sh.sample" or something to that effect in that directory. Just rename it, chmod 555 proftpd.sh, and ProFTPD will start automatically when you reboot. To invoke it yourself (saving a reboot), just invoke that shell script (type "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/proftpd.sh start"). > thanks, > nader HTH, - Ryan -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 1:48:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2A437B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:48:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14pR9x-000BwY-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:48:29 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3H8mSR85166 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:48:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:48:28 +0100 From: Rasputin To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20010417094828.A85133@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <5.1.0.12.0.20010414112831.009f62a0@mail.a2000.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.12.0.20010414112831.009f62a0@mail.a2000.nl>; from bliekp@cable.a2000.nl on Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 11:31:18AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Pim Bliek [010414 10:32]: > When I try to start X (using startx as user root) I get: > Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: KDENABIO failed (Operation not permitted) Looks like your securelevel is too high; What does sysctl kern.securelevel say? -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 1:51:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918CA37B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:51:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@timogen.com) Received: from timogen.com ([64.166.85.192]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0GBX007Y8HX9GX@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:54:25 -0700 From: John Calderon Subject: Re: request for 'too many open files' To: Willie Kim Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, oscars@mail.utexas.edu Reply-To: john@timogen.com Message-id: <3ADC04C1.F3BB25E4@timogen.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG umm your reply  looks funny but this guy has the same question ( more or less )
I just copied and pasted
I think ulimit will set your soft limit and FD_SETSIZE will change the hard/kernel limit for BSD 3.0

don't know for 4.0
but usually there are work arrounds instead of increasing this. like usually spliting open files and opening multiple servers to do part of the dns work like
one dns server to handle internal addresses, one for reverse ips, one for regular dns.

hope this helps
john

Subject:
        Maxusers and max open files
   Date:
        Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:22:59 -0500
   From:
        Oscar Ricardo Silva <oscars@mail.utexas.edu>
     To:
        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
 
 
 

I know that the max number of open files is related to the maxusers number
in the kernel config file.  /usr/src/sys/conf/param.c indicates:

#define NPROC (20 + 16 * MAXUSERS)
#ifndef MAXFILES
#define MAXFILES (NPROC*2)
#endif
int     maxproc = NPROC;                        /* maximum # of processes */
int     maxprocperuid = NPROC-1;                /* maximum # of processes
per user */
int     maxfiles = MAXFILES;                    /* system wide open files
limit */
int     maxfilesperproc = MAXFILES;             /* per-process open files
limit */

So, that means that if I want to raise the max number of open files, I need
to change MAXUSERS in the kernel and recompile.  At the same time, I don't
want to place to much overhead on the machine to where it becomes unusable.

Any thoughts on what the usable limit is for MAXUSERS?  The machine I'm
asking about is currently running FreeBSD 4.0. acting as a dns cache server
for our campus (approx. 50,000 hosts) and is running djbdns-1.05.  We had
problems this weekend where the dnscache portion of the djbdns package
reported that it could not open more files.  I would like to raise the
number (currently, max number of open files set to 4136, maxusers 128) but
don't want to suffer to much of a performance hit.

I've tried looking for more information on open files and max number of
open files but have only found one or two sentences in the FreeBSD
handbook.  Any other resources for this kind of information?  I found the
piece of code above but admit that I'm not a programmer.

Any information would be extremely appreciated.
 

Oscar
 

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Willie Kim wrote:

Hello there!...
I know this is a kind of danky to ask for it..but i need these problems to be solved for our company though...so, do me a favor, would u?....i wish you'd help me out for these requestions even though it's sort of late in different time between your country and my country..
 lately my company is participating in BMT(Benchmarking Test) for the cache, nas project, and so forth..but we got the some problems during testing..
actually we're using the PolyMix-3  from the FreeBDS in this time but some errors came up consecutively during the test like it said....
>1023/1023(267) unsupported HTTP status code...
>whenever we use the FreeBSD to increase the numbers with polymix-3, I am getting  >a lot of "Too many open files" error messages from Connection.con  like that..
>too many open files ....like that
besides we're using our domestic hardware brand which is Sambo CPU...and also we're using the  CacheFlow and other products...we thought the reasons this wasn't working properly was the environment of networking area....like memory part, ICE, or something...
anyway, we'll figure out these problems compromised with other company ...because other competitions work on this problem too...
anyway, if you have some knowledgements about these problem, would you be willing to send email back to me asap...I'll be looking forwarding to hearing from you soon..
well, I'll really appreciate as you can respond my requestions..
Have a great day and take care! Thanks, sir. Willie H. Kim.
To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 2:12:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FE737B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:12:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14pRX6-000BAo-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:12:24 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3H9CNc85550 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:12:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:12:23 +0100 From: Rasputin To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why do all ports want Xfree86 3.3.6_8? Message-ID: <20010417101223.A85480@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <20010417000645.O13449-100000@benny.geektank.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010417000645.O13449-100000@benny.geektank.org>; from tmchow@sfu.ca on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:09:50AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Trevin Chow [010417 08:11]: > While I was browsing the +CONTENTS in a bunch of ports in /var/db/pkg, > i noticed that a huge number of ports depend on XFree86 3.3.6_8. I"m just > wondering why this is the case. I have XFree8i6 4.0.3_3 installed, > and when I tried installing the MTR port (/usr/ports/net/mtr), it kept > looking for some gtk library -- so I had to installed gtk 1.2. After > looking at the dependencies for mtr, I noticed that even the mtr port > depends on Xfree86 3.3.6_8! Why would all these ports depend on a version > of Xfree86 that I don't even have installed? Should I manually change > these depencies to 4.0.3_3? Or put XFREE86_VERSION=4 in /etc/make.conf. -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 2:31:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dotr.com (dotr.com [209.203.232.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CF837B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:31:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msg@tessera.co.uk) Received: from lenin.tessera.co.uk ([213.121.54.187]) by dotr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05692 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:31:08 GMT Received: by lenin.tessera.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2NB0AS18>; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:35:32 +0100 Message-ID: <80791ECFD06DD411BD000050BA08EEEE0338BD@lenin.tessera.co.uk> From: Mark George To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:35:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have installed my copy of Qmail with all the packages I require. These include the desktop however, when I turn on my machine and get to the log prompt I only get text mode. How do I activate the graphical mode? Regards Mark George IT Support Tessera Group Plc mailto:msg@tessera.co.uk http://www.tessera.co.uk Internet communications are not secure and therefore the Tessera Group Plc has taken all reasonable precautions to ensure that no viruses are transmitted from the Tessera Group Plc to any third party. Tessera Group Plc accept no responsibility for any damage or loss resulting directly or indirectly from the use of this e-mail or the contents. If you have received this message and are not the intended recipient please contact +44 (0)1702 444777. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 2:31:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from benny.geektank.org (00-04-ac-38-0e-e8.bconnected.net [209.53.63.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B0B37B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:31:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by benny.geektank.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3H9UtO14143; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:30:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: benny.geektank.org: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:30:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow X-X-Sender: To: Rasputin Cc: Subject: Re: Why do all ports want Xfree86 3.3.6_8? In-Reply-To: <20010417101223.A85480@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: <20010417022940.J14114-100000@benny.geektank.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Rasputin wrote: > * Trevin Chow [010417 08:11]: > > depends on Xfree86 3.3.6_8! Why would all these ports depend on a version > > of Xfree86 that I don't even have installed? Should I manually change > > these depencies to 4.0.3_3? > > Or put > > XFREE86_VERSION=4 > > in /etc/make.conf. Do you mean /etc/defaults/make.conf? I didn't see any mention of this line in the existing /etc/defaults/make.conf, so I'm assumign I just add the specified line at the end of teh file? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 2:37:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.it.kth.se (mail2.it.kth.se [130.237.212.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B937937B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:37:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forda@ite.mh.se) Received: from fordalap (dhcp88.ssvl.kth.se [130.237.14.88]) by mail2.it.kth.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA29641 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:37:21 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <00c501c0c722$51ea02c0$580eed82@fordalap> From: "Daniel Forsgren" To: Subject: Tagging bridge Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:39:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, What would be the best way of going about setting up a Freebsd-based bridge that adds/removes VLAN q-tags to ethernet frames containing IP packets from a certain source IP range? The purpose is to put a set of hosts on different VLANs (that use different IP ranges) for bridging over an access network, even though the end hosts are not directly connected to q-tag capable equipment. I guess ethernet broadcast traffic will have to be handled separately somehow, perhaps through some relay software. Regards, Daniel F. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 2:38:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from vti01.vertis.nl (vti01.vertis.nl [145.66.4.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D6D37B440 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:38:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nieuwenhuisa@vertis.nl) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by vti01.vertis.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id LAA29324 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:38:07 +0200 Received: from vts070.vertis.nl (vts070.vertis.nl [145.66.20.220]) by gate01.vertis.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA18641 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:37:19 +0200 Received: by vts007.vertis.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2Z2V54ZC>; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:37:18 +0200 Message-ID: <938F7F15145BD311AECE00508B7152DB047678F0@vts007.vertis.nl> From: Arjan Nieuwenhuis To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: is the hpt370 fully supported? Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:37:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, I have read there was a driver for the Highpoint HPT370 IDE-RAID controller is this a NON-RAID or a full compatible driver? thanks, Arjan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 3: 8:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723D137B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:08:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14pSOz-000Bp7-00; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:08:05 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3HA85N86508; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:08:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:08:04 +0100 From: Rasputin To: Trevin Chow Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why do all ports want Xfree86 3.3.6_8? Message-ID: <20010417110804.A86484@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <20010417101223.A85480@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010417022940.J14114-100000@benny.geektank.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010417022940.J14114-100000@benny.geektank.org>; from tmchow@sfu.ca on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 02:30:54AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Trevin Chow [010417 10:34]: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Rasputin wrote: > > > * Trevin Chow [010417 08:11]: > > > depends on Xfree86 3.3.6_8! Why would all these ports depend on a version > > > of Xfree86 that I don't even have installed? Should I manually change > > > these depencies to 4.0.3_3? > > > > Or put > > > > XFREE86_VERSION=4 > > > > in /etc/make.conf. > > Do you mean /etc/defaults/make.conf? I didn't, but that will work. > I didn't see any mention of this line > in the existing /etc/defaults/make.conf, so I'm assumign I just add the > specified line at the end of teh file? Yup. It also makes life easier for things like Mesa (doesn't try to install it's own GL libraries as X has them built in) -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 3:21:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sheppard.torfree.net (sheppard.torfree.net [199.71.188.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E1337B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:21:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ad330@sheppard.torfree.net) Received: by sheppard.torfree.net (Postfix, from userid 4330) id 383C33EA2; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sheppard.torfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3647515; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:21:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Greenspoon To: Linh Pham Cc: Roelof Osinga , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: web access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried to login as root, but do not seem to have the proper password. Is there no user friendly format? What happened to the old format? Is it not available anymore. On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-16, Michael Greenspoon scribbled: > > # I do not know how to get to "/usr/ports/www/lynx" and "make install". > # > # There doesn't seem to be an access point in the pine setup. > > Exit out of Pine, su to root (assuming that you are part of the wheel > group, if not, logout and log in as root) and run the following command: > > cd /usr/ports/www/lynx ; make && make install > > If it states that /user/ports/www/lynx could not be found, then the > Portls connection wasn't installed. > > -- > Linh Pham > [lplist@closedsrc.org] > > // 404b - Brain not found > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 3:41:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A4637B43E; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hopet@chemi.muni.cz) Received: from bilbo.chemi.muni.cz (bilbo.chemi.muni.cz [147.251.28.2]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07357; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:41:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from arwen (arwen.ics.muni.cz [147.251.3.20]) by bilbo.chemi.muni.cz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA12768; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:41:17 +0200 (MEST) From: "Petr Holub" To: , Subject: Re: Dell C600 XFree86 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:45:36 +0200 Message-ID: <000d01c0c72b$896e6b10$1403fb93@arwen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Config is below the signature. Send me mail if it works or not please. Petr ================================================================ Petr Holub Masaryk University Dept. Physical Chemistry Supercomputing Centre Brno Faculty of Science Institute of Compt. Science Kotlarska 2, 61137 Brno, CZ Botanicka 68a, 60200 Brno, CZ phone: +420-5-41129312 phone: +420-5-41512278 e-mail: hopet@chemi.muni.cz e-mail: hopet@ics.muni.cz # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by Dexter, the # Debian X Configuration tool. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config manual page. # (Type "man XF86Config" at the shell prompt.) Section "Files" FontPath "unix/:7101" # local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these #FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" #FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" #FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" #FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" #FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" #FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" #FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11 /fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fon ts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/kas,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi-il2,/ usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi-il2,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc-il2,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speed o,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/czech,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr /lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi,/ usr/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/jelinek/100dpi-2/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/jelinek/75dpi-2/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/unknown1/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/unknown1/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/unknown2/" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/modules" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" EndSection Section "Module" Load "ddc" Load "GLcore" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "pex5" Load "record" Load "xie" Load "bitmap" Load "freetype" Load "speedo" Load "type1" Load "vbe" Load "int10" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "keyboard" Option "CoreKeyboard" # Option "ScrollLock" "Compose" # Option "RightCtl" "Control" # Option "XkbCompat" "group_led" # Option "XkbLayout" "czsk(us_cz_prog)" # Option "XkbVariant" "us_cz_prog" # Option "XkbModel" "pc104" #Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" #Option "XkbModel" "pc104" #Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Protocol" "PS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Generic Graphics Device" Driver "r128" Option "intern_disp" Option "extern_disp" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "VMware SVGA" Driver "vmware" BusID "PCI:0:15:0" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "SGI Multilink" HorizSync 28-70 VertRefresh 58-62 Option "DPMS" Modeline "1600x1024_60" 108 1600 1624 1664 1704 1024 1027 1030 1056 EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" HorizSync 28-49 VertRefresh 43-72 Option "DPMS" Modeline "1600x1024_60x" 108 1600 1624 1664 1704 1024 1027 1030 1056 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Generic Graphics Device" Monitor "Generic Monitor" # DefaultDepth 8 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "External Screen" Device "Generic Graphics Device" Monitor "SGI Multilink" # DefaultDepth 8 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 #Modes "1024x768" "1600x1024_60" "800x600" Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "External Screen" #Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Generic Mouse" EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection # end of XF86Config To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 4: 3:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rigel.pucrs.br (rigel.pucrs.br [200.132.10.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E6F37B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:03:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apolli@pucrs.br) Received: from aegis (aegis.pucrs.br [200.132.13.12]) by rigel.pucrs.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA13626 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:01:25 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from apolli@pucrs.br) Message-ID: <005c01c0c72d$4a14b260$0c0d84c8@pucrs.br> From: "Alexandre Polli" To: "bsd-lista" Subject: static natd Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:58:07 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings gentleman; I have a freebsd firewall, running natd. This gateway has a 'real' IP address. Behind this machine there's a nerwork with internal IPs (say, 192.x.x.x). However, one of these is a webserver. I've got another IP 'public' IP address, so Im planning to statically map the webserver on the gateway. Using natd and ipfw, shall the rule be something like natd -log -redirect_address 192.x.x.x -n xl0 ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 4:43:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sheppard.torfree.net (sheppard.torfree.net [199.71.188.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283D337B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:43:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ad330@sheppard.torfree.net) Received: by sheppard.torfree.net (Postfix, from userid 4330) id A09E73EA8; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sheppard.torfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE1413; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:43:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Greenspoon To: Linh Pham Cc: Roelof Osinga , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: web access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There doesn't seem to be any way to get to the root. when I quit pine the system logs out and disconnects. I am curious about what happened to the good old interface - the TFN Main Menu. I thought things would be better after that long offline period. I have never done any of the things you have mentioned and don't really understand what you are trying to do. Thanks again for your support. mg On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-16, Michael Greenspoon scribbled: > > # I do not know how to get to "/usr/ports/www/lynx" and "make install". > # > # There doesn't seem to be an access point in the pine setup. > > Exit out of Pine, su to root (assuming that you are part of the wheel > group, if not, logout and log in as root) and run the following command: > > cd /usr/ports/www/lynx ; make && make install > > If it states that /user/ports/www/lynx could not be found, then the > Portls connection wasn't installed. > > -- > Linh Pham > [lplist@closedsrc.org] > > // 404b - Brain not found > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 4:52: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ms17.hinet.net (ms17.hinet.net [168.95.4.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FBA37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:51:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r041102@ms17.hinet.net) Received: from wen (h11.s251.ts31.hinet.net [163.31.251.11]) by ms17.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA14913 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:51:48 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <001001c0c7fe$7d4701c0$0bfb1fa3@wen> From: "Jessey" To: Subject: I call sosend occur error . The error code=22. Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:55:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0C841.8A66DB80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0C841.8A66DB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sir: I call sosend occur error. The error code=3D22. What wrong in my code? The code follow: socreate(); file://is ok; | } top=3Dm_get(MT_DATA,M_DONTWAIT); if(top=3D=3DNULL) { log(LOG_INFO, "top=3DNULL occur error\n"); goto out; } top->m_next=3DNULL; top->m_nextpkt=3DNULL; top->m_len=3D50; adr=3Dsizeof(struct m_hdr) +sizeof(int)+sizeof(struct ifnet *); log(LOG_INFO, "adr=3D %d \n",adr); top->m_data=3Dtop+adr; log(LOG_INFO, "top=3D %x, top->m_data=3D %x,top+adr=3D%x \n",top=20 ,top->m_data,top+adr); top->m_type=3DMT_DATA; top->m_flags=3DM_PKTHDR; top->m_pkthdr.len=3D50; top->m_pkthdr.rcvif=3DNULL; log(LOG_INFO, "top=3D %x, Data=3D %x \n",top ,top->m_data); error =3D sosend(so,(struct sockaddr *) &sin,NULL,top,=20 0,MSG_DONTROUTE); Thanks/regards _______________________________________________ opentransportdev mailing list opentransportdev@lists.apple.com http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/opentransportdev ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0C841.8A66DB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Sir:
I call sosend occur error. The error=20 code=3D22.
What wrong in my code?

The code = follow:

socreate(); file://is=20 ok;

|
}

top=3Dm_get(MT_DATA,M_DONTWAIT);

 &n= bsp;  =20 if(top=3D=3DNULL)
    =20 {
         log(LOG_INFO, = "top=3DNULL=20 occur error\n");
         = goto=20 out;
     }

    =20 top->m_next=3DNULL;
    =20 top->m_nextpkt=3DNULL;
    =20 top->m_len=3D50;
     adr=3Dsizeof(struct = m_hdr)=20 +sizeof(int)+sizeof(struct ifnet *);
     = log(LOG_INFO,=20 "adr=3D %d \n",adr);

    =20 top->m_data=3Dtop+adr;
     log(LOG_INFO, = "top=3D %x,=20 top->m_data=3D %x,top+adr=3D%x \n",top=20
,top->m_data,top+adr);

    =20 top->m_type=3DMT_DATA;
    =20 top->m_flags=3DM_PKTHDR;
    =20 top->m_pkthdr.len=3D50;
    =20 top->m_pkthdr.rcvif=3DNULL;


     = log(LOG_INFO,=20 "top=3D %x, Data=3D %x \n",top = ,top->m_data);

    =20 error =3D sosend(so,(struct sockaddr *) &sin,NULL,top,=20
0,MSG_DONTROUTE);

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htt= p://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/opentransportdev ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0C841.8A66DB80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 4:59:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moo.sysabend.org (moo.sysabend.org [63.86.88.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DC037B440 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:59:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ragnar@sysabend.org) Received: by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6026F755D; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398441D89 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:02:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamie Bowden To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Losing it. Message-ID: Approved: yep X-representing: Only myself. X-badge: We don't need no stinking badges. X-obligatory-profanity: Fuck X-moo: Moo. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've searched the archives, and can't find my own post. Neither can I find the responses to it. I know there are a pair of files you can point the NT boot mangler at which contain FreeBSD's boot block and allow you to add it to the WinNT boot mangler, but I can't find the actual files. Can someone here point me at the relevant files? Please CC me as I'm not subscribed to -questions currently. Jamie Bowden -- "It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold" Hunter S Tolkien "Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur" Iain Bowen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 5: 1:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gdmckee.local (pc-62-30-209-11-so.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.209.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D1037B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:01:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gdmckee.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (helo=p300) by gdmckee.local with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14pUAl-000KP2-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:01:31 +0100 Message-ID: <004501c0c736$2d986f60$01000001@gdmckee.local> From: "G D McKee" To: "Questions FreeBSD" References: <002301c0c6b0$b50dd420$01000001@gdmckee.local> <3ADB5361.131E2200@superjake.net> <00f301c0c6cb$aa0fd940$01000001@gdmckee.local> <3ADB8B44.91FEA876@superjake.net> Subject: Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:01:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have tried shlight and got this error: kursk# /usr/local/sbin/shlight //C433-ME/d /mnt/c433-backup -u gdm -p **** C433-ME: unknown host kursk# and mount -t smbfs and got this one: kursk#~> mount -t smbfs //gdm@c433-me/d /mnt/c433-backup/ smbfs: vfsload(smbfs): Exec format error kursk#~> Does anyone have any ideas what is wrong? Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Small" To: "G D McKee" Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:16 AM Subject: Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System > Here is the script that I use to login into my son's windows box: > #!/bin/sh > shlight //budman/c /budman/c -P password > (//computer/share /mountpoint/mount) > > Hopefully that makes sense. I have some more at work. If it's an NT > box, you'll probably have to use the worgroup switch. > > Hopefully this will help! > > Robert > > > > G D McKee wrote: > > > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > Hi > > > > I want to make an iso image on to a windows machine that has the burner in > > it. A sample script for the login bit would help. > > > > Gordon > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Small" > > To: "G D McKee" > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:17 PM > > Subject: Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System > > > > > I gave up on SMBFS, I use sharity light, it/s > > /usr/ports/net/sharity-light, and > > > it's pretty easy to figure out from there. I could send you some of my > > scripts > > > if you want. > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > G D McKee wrote: > > > > > > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) > > Pro* > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I have been trying to mount a windows share on FreeBSd using SMBFS. Got > > it > > > > compiled and it doesn't seem to work. I have followed the examples. > > > > > > > > Does any one have a command line prompt to mount the share please? > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 5:14: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from trill.hh.se (trill.hh.se [194.47.5.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A4F37B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:14:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from u98jobj@stud.hh.se) Received: from gs177.gsten.hh.se (chip@L22-212.gsten.hh.se [194.47.16.177]) by trill.hh.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26661; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:13:55 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <004501c0c736$2d986f60$01000001@gdmckee.local> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:13:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Joel Bjork To: G D McKee Subject: Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System Cc: Questions FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17-Apr-01 G D McKee wrote: > Hi > > I have tried shlight and got this error: > > kursk# /usr/local/sbin/shlight //C433-ME/d /mnt/c433-backup -u gdm -p > **** > C433-ME: unknown host > kursk# > Add this to your /etc/hosts: [IP of windowshost] C443-ME I had the same problem and that solved it. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Joel Bjork Date: 17-Apr-01 Time: 14:13:55 ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 5:19:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gdmckee.local (pc-62-30-209-11-so.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.209.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B734937B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gdmckee.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (helo=p300) by gdmckee.local with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14pURp-000KPs-00; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:19:09 +0100 Message-ID: <006301c0c738$a4442800$01000001@gdmckee.local> From: "G D McKee" To: "Joel Bjork" Cc: "Questions FreeBSD" References: Subject: Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:19:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi No luck - does any one have any other ideas. I also tried this: kursk#~> /usr/local/sbin/shlight //192.168.0.7/d /mnt/c433-backup Password: Kernel: smb_receive_raw: Invalid packet 0x83 Kernel: smb_receive: receive error: -5 Kernel: smb_proc_connect: Failed to send SESSION REQUEST. error connecting to server: [5] Input/output error kursk#~> Which didn't work either!! Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Bjork" To: "G D McKee" Cc: "Questions FreeBSD" Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System > > On 17-Apr-01 G D McKee wrote: > > Hi > > > > I have tried shlight and got this error: > > > > kursk# /usr/local/sbin/shlight //C433-ME/d /mnt/c433-backup -u gdm -p > > **** > > C433-ME: unknown host > > kursk# > > > > Add this to your /etc/hosts: > > [IP of windowshost] C443-ME > > I had the same problem and that solved it. > > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: Joel Bjork > Date: 17-Apr-01 > Time: 14:13:55 > ---------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 5:20:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kontent.kontent.de (KONTENT.KONTENT.De [194.231.46.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A5437B440 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:20:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webmaster@aktiva24.com) Received: from localhost.KONTENT.De (kunden@WWW2.KONTENT.De [194.231.46.232]) by kontent.kontent.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3HCKPN10326 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:20:25 +0200 Message-Id: <200104171220.f3HCKPN10326@kontent.kontent.de> X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@kontent.de Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Neues Internetportal From: webmaster@aktiva24.com X-mail-script: http://www.aktiva24.com/cgi-bin/newsletter.cgi Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:20 +0000 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nach den Ostertagen, die hoffentlich alle gut =FCberstanden haben, melden = wir uns wieder mit einem Newsletter und interessanten Neuigkeiten f=FCr all= e die gerne Wissen m=F6chten, was sich im Internet bewegt und die gerne Wer= bung f=FCr Ihre Website machen. 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This give med problems with mail not being delivered.=20 /P=E4r To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 5:35: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1786537B507 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:34:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A8703D6022E; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:34:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3ADC3870.49E12D45@urx.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:34:56 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jamie Bowden Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Losing it. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jamie Bowden wrote: > > I've searched the archives, and can't find my own post. Neither can I > find the responses to it. I know there are a pair of files you can point > the NT boot mangler at which contain FreeBSD's boot block and allow you to > add it to the WinNT boot mangler, but I can't find the actual files. > > Can someone here point me at the relevant files? Please CC me as I'm not > subscribed to -questions currently. I have FreeBSD on the same HD as my boot. I copy /boot/boot1 to c:\bootsect.bsd. Then I add c:\bootsec.bsd="FreeBSD" to the operating systems block of my boot.ini. You have to attrib boot.ini before you can edit it and reattrib it when you get through. Kent > > Jamie Bowden > > -- > "It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold" > Hunter S Tolkien "Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur" > Iain Bowen > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 5:35: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B268437B506 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:34:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14pUex-0006tg-00; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:32:43 +0300 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:32:42 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: G D McKee Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System Message-ID: <20010417153242.A25604@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , G D McKee , FBSD-Q References: <006301c0c738$a4442800$01000001@gdmckee.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <006301c0c738$a4442800$01000001@gdmckee.local>; from "G D McKee" on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 01:19:25PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 3:25PM up 21:48, 3 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.05, 0.06 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * G D McKee [20010417 15:18]: writing on the subject = 'Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System' G> Hi G>=20 G> No luck - does any one have any other ideas. G>=20 G> I also tried this: G>=20 G> kursk#~> /usr/local/sbin/shlight //192.168.0.7/d /mnt/c433-backup = =20 G> Password:=20 G> Kernel: smb_receive_raw: Invalid packet 0x83 G> Kernel: smb_receive: receive error: -5 G> Kernel: smb_proc_connect: Failed to send SESSION REQUEST. G> error connecting to server: [5] Input/output error G> kursk#~>=20 G>=20 G> Which didn't work either!! Is this other machine on the same net as yours? Same class of IP/subnet mask? Is there a sharename called 'd' on this other machine or are you assuming that drive D: should be interpreted as 'd'?? shlight //servername/sharename/mount_point=20 That is what I use for mapping a Windows 9x drive. For a Windows box like NT, I guess you have to supply those details like username & passwd . It's never been complicated for Win9x - just press RETURN when it asks for a passwd. G>=20 G> Gordon G> ----- Original Message -----=20 G> From: "Joel Bjork" G> To: "G D McKee" G> Cc: "Questions FreeBSD" G> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:13 PM G> Subject: Re: Mount Windows Share on FreeBSD Files System G>=20 G>=20 G> >=20 G> > On 17-Apr-01 G D McKee wrote: G> > > Hi G> > >=20 G> > > I have tried shlight and got this error: G> > >=20 G> > > kursk# /usr/local/sbin/shlight //C433-ME/d /mnt/c433-backup -u gdm -p G> > > **** G> > > C433-ME: unknown host G> > > kursk# G> > > G> >=20 G> > Add this to your /etc/hosts: G> >=20 G> > [IP of windowshost] C443-ME G> >=20 G> > I had the same problem and that solved it. G> >=20 G> > ---------------------------------- G> > E-Mail: Joel Bjork G> > Date: 17-Apr-01 G> > Time: 14:13:55 G> > ---------------------------------- G> >=20 G> >=20 G>=20 G>=20 G> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org G> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Measure with a micrometer. Mark with chalk. Cut with an axe. --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63Dfqn7LIsuxjem8RAvvJAKCq2ornUYosdZkhKW0vAzzER5+7PwCZASah Wdvf2wcmdvDgcpiQ9pFOpJY= =32gu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 5:35:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mplspop3.mpls.uswest.net (mplspop3.mpls.uswest.net [204.147.80.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D64BB37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from buzzwang@gamersgarrison.com) Received: (qmail 79706 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 12:35:34 -0000 Received: from mail.gamersgarrison.com (63.231.177.116) by mplspop3.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 12:35:34 -0000 Received: from ecknick [63.231.177.117] by mail.gamersgarrison.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A82B1F7200E4; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:33:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:33:15 -0500 Message-ID: <000501c0c73a$94a44cc0$0501010a@ecknick> From: "Group Captain Buzzwang" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Subject: Questions concerning startup / Local Package Initialization MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C710.AA2305C0"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C710.AA2305C0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C0C710.AA2305C0" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C0C710.AA2305C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, don't hate cause I'm relatively new. At least I'm moving away from MicroSuck, and I searched for a week before I had to ask a question. I've been using FreeBSD for awhile now and am fairly familiar with the overall system, but now I've decided to go a little deeper and use it as my web server. I've been trying for a couple days now to setup SlashCode (http://www.slashcode.com or http://slashdot.org) because I like the site features and layout. Don't worry, my question doesn't relate to that, but arose because of it. In order for /. to work, it requires mysql, apache, and their code (slash) to startup in that order at system boot. No problem; just wrote a short little script to start everything, put it in the rc.d directory and it works just fine. The problem arises when I shutdown or restart the system. I get an error/message saying that I'm using the old style rc scripts, and that I should change them to recognize the stop command. I've just finished digging around freebsd.org (spent a little over an hour) and I can't find a reference to this message anywhere. All I wanna know is two things: 1) What should an rc script/s look like? & 2) How do I right the script to start and stop these software elements in the way that freebsd likes? Well, ok, 3 things: 3) Should I be using rc.local or something else instead & how do I make that work? Post it here or mailto:buzzwang@gamersgarrison.com Thanks in advance! ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C0C710.AA2305C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ok, don't hate cause I'm relatively = new. At least I'm moving away from MicroSuck, and I searched for a week = before I had to ask a question.

I've been using FreeBSD for awhile now = and am fairly familiar with the overall system, but now I've decided to = go a little deeper and use it as my web server. I've been trying for a = couple days now to setup SlashCode (http://www.slashcode.com or http://slashdot.org) = because I like the site features and layout. Don't worry, my question = doesn't relate to that, but arose because of it. In order for /. to = work, it requires mysql, apache, and their code (slash) to startup in = that order at system boot. No problem; just wrote a short little script = to start everything, put it in the rc.d directory and it works just = fine.

The problem arises when I shutdown or = restart the system. I get an error/message saying that I'm using the old = style rc scripts, and that I should change them to recognize the stop = command. I've just finished digging around freebsd.org (spent a little = over an hour) and I can't find a reference to this message = anywhere.

All I wanna know is two things:
1) What should an rc script/s look = like? &
2) How do I right the script to start = and stop these software elements in the way that freebsd likes?

Well, ok, 3 things:
3) Should I be using rc.local or = something else instead & how do I make that work?

Post it here or mailto:buzzwang@gamersgarriso= n.com

Thanks in advance!

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Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:36:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14pUh7-0006up-00; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:34:57 +0300 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:34:57 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4r_Thoren?= Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: disk free in /var Message-ID: <20010417153457.B25604@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4r_Thoren?= , FBSD-Q References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3CPine=2EGSO=2E4=2E21=2E0104171416190=2E7634-100000=40be?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?holder=2Erby=2Ehk-r=2Ese=3E=3B_ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG =09from_=22P=E4r_Thoren?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22_on_Tue=2C_Apr_17=2C_2001_at_02:23:14PM_+0200?= X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 3:33PM up 21:57, 3 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.08, 0.08 --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * P=E4r Thoren [20010417 15:24]: writing on the sub= ject 'disk free in /var' P=E4r> Hi! P=E4r>=20 P=E4r> I have a problem with the /var partition. I used the default partion= table P=E4r> when I installed fbsd. Thats is 20 MB in /var P=E4r>=20 P=E4r> 'df' list: P=E4r>=20 P=E4r> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on P=E4r> /dev/da0s1a 49583 34348 11269 75% / P=E4r> /dev/da0s1f 8361849 1278255 6414647 17% /usr P=E4r> /dev/da0s1e 19815 18140 90 100% /var P=E4r> procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc P=E4r>=20 P=E4r> as you can see /var i full. P=E4r> but 'du -d1 /var' lists: P=E4r>=20 P=E4r> 2 /var/account P=E4r> 3 /var/at P=E4r> 11 /var/backups P=E4r> 2 /var/crash P=E4r> 3 /var/cron P=E4r> 2 /var/msgs P=E4r> 1 /var/preserve P=E4r> 49 /var/run P=E4r> 1 /var/rwho P=E4r> 16 /var/spool P=E4r> 2 /var/tmp P=E4r> 20 /var/yp P=E4r> 113 /var/ P=E4r>=20 P=E4r> 113 Kbyte in use????? where did the rest go? This give med problems = with P=E4r> mail not being delivered.=20 P=E4r>=20 P=E4r> /P=E4r df -h gives you a very accurate info (IN MEGABYTES) You could change your mail to be delivered to Maildir/ else you're in for some tweaking. -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Sure he's sharp as a razor ... he's a two-dimensional pinhead! --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63Dhxn7LIsuxjem8RAvvqAJ9I6vbxHd7/4yUbiGVoiwcV380ByACgvBy9 RNnbodC9LZXJfykeMBmlrfA= =MCgZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kXdP64Ggrk/fb43R-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 5:40: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (CPE-61-9-138-203.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.138.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C4D37B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:39:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3HCcww76807; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:39:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Message-Id: <200104171239.f3HCcww76807@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Sergeant" To: Michael Greenspoon , Linh Pham Cc: Roelof Osinga , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: web access X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.3 On freebsd/mysql Date: 17 Apr 2001 07:38:57 EST Reply-To: "Mark Sergeant" In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I really don't think this has to do with FreeBSD now does it. I am stabbing in the dark and after doing a search on google I am guessing you mean the toronto free net menu ? If so why not contact them :) On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:43:50 -0400 (EDT), Michael Greenspoon said: > There doesn't seem to be any way to get to the root. when I quit pine the > system logs out and disconnects. I am curious about what happened to the > good old interface - the TFN Main Menu. I thought things would be better > after that long offline period. > > I have never done any of the things you have mentioned and don't > really understand what you are trying to do. > > Thanks again for your support. > > mg > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > > > On 2001-04-16, Michael Greenspoon scribbled: > > > > # I do not know how to get to "/usr/ports/www/lynx" and "make install". > > # > > # There doesn't seem to be an access point in the pine setup. > > > > Exit out of Pine, su to root (assuming that you are part of the wheel > > group, if not, logout and log in as root) and run the following command: > > > > cd /usr/ports/www/lynx ; make && make install > > > > If it states that /user/ports/www/lynx could not be found, then the > > Portls connection wasn't installed. > > > > -- > > Linh Pham > > [lplist@closedsrc.org] > > > > // 404b - Brain not found > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- Honorable, adj.: Afflicted with an impediment in one's reach. In legislative bodies, it is customary to mention all members as honorable; as, "the honorable gentleman is a scurvy cur." -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 5:52: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD9137B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:51:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14pUwO-000758-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:50:44 +0300 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:50:43 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ProFTPD Message-ID: <20010417155043.D25604@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3ADBF9A5.D2D0B513@adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="76DTJ5CE0DCVQemd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ADBF9A5.D2D0B513@adelphia.net>; from "Nader Turki" on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 04:07:01AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 3:50PM up 22:13, 3 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.08, 0.08 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --76DTJ5CE0DCVQemd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Nader Turki [20010417 11:03]: writing on the subjec= t 'ProFTPD' Nader> hi there, Nader> i installed ProFTPD from the ports but it's not workin' Nader> do i have to do anything else other than make; make install; make cl= ean? Nader>=20 Nader> thanks, Nader> nader _and_ check to see that you have a properly configured proftpd.conf in /usr/local/etc -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Advertising is a valuable economic factor because it is the cheapest way of selling goods, particularly if the goods are worthless. -- Sinclair Lewis --76DTJ5CE0DCVQemd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63Dwjn7LIsuxjem8RAnIAAJ98SEwomTSVmMjwoT/lzlFt81lNnQCfZ3bp J/0Nc5WS0/A2xbl3xXXe7wQ= =2/6P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --76DTJ5CE0DCVQemd-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 6:27:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.total.net (rossine.total.net [154.11.89.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D10437B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cckok00@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 27188 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 13:27:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (154.20.96.59) by smtp.total.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 13:27:44 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADC44E1.9830D319@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:28:01 -0400 From: Peter Kok X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ProFTPD References: <3ADBF9A5.D2D0B513@adelphia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG it may help http://www.freebsddiary.org/proftpd-1.2.0pre9.html regards Peter Kok Nader Turki wrote: > hi there, > i installed ProFTPD from the ports but it's not workin' > do i have to do anything else other than make; make install; make clean? > > thanks, > nader > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 6:33:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9F937B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:33:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from phantom (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3HDZ0K95621 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:35:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Message-ID: <006101c0c743$6fbf7b10$0f01a8c0@phantom> Reply-To: "Gerald T. Freymann" From: "Gerald T. Freymann" To: References: <020001c0c6aa$17f2ec30$0f01a8c0@phantom> <3ADB5263.23F045F0@urx.com> Subject: trying make buildworld on 4.3RC3 - Post III - DONE! Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:36:41 -0400 Organization: eagle.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Look at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ and make sure that you aren't having > hardware problems. On Kent's advice, I had a look at the above url. I've seen it before, and been there before, but hey, can't be my nice new-used computer hardware can it? I did remove /usr/src and cvsup'd down 4.2-Release. Not that I need to build world (cause I was already running 4.2-R) but I thought I'd try, and it blew up in various places. So then I figured, hell, I have two CPU's, lets try and build a custom kernel, which also failed in various places. So back to the above url. Basically, all I did was reload the factory defaults in the BIOS and presto! I was able to compile the custom kernel in one fell swoop. Reboot, and yeaaah baby, two CPU's are working. I immediately cvsup'd down 4.3RC and buildworld and makekernel ran with no problems what so ever. So I'm off to the races ! -Gerry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 6:38:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from alto.i-cable.com (alto.i-cable.com [210.80.60.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D64737B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:38:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lkthomas@hkicable.com) Received: from thomasq1rx10yf ([61.18.16.156]) by alto.i-cable.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21359 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:38:50 +0800 (HKT) From: "Thomas Lau" To: Subject: Looking for people help to make certificate for FreeBSD: ( please read this! ) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:40:09 +0800 Message-ID: <000801c0c743$ebe2cee0$9c10123d@thomasq1rx10yf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C786.FA079580" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C786.FA079580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am coming from Hong Kong, well, it's not popular in HK about FreeBSD, so I want to make a non-profit company in Hong Kong to maintain this things, the basic idea are similar to MC$E by Micro$oft, But I was changed something, this FreeBSD exam passed people can help to make question for next candidate, so we can make hardly question for new candidate, and this exam only need a few USD ( maybe 10-15$USD ) , just for balance FreeBSD and this exam cost :-) If you have any idea, please email to me, moreover, we do not care if it's worldwide, if you want to help to make this exam question, please tell me, maybe I will let you join :-) ( we also accept company to join this non-profit group ) I hope FreeBSD will make popular in the world Thanks a lot ( remember this is non-profit company ) Thomas Lau ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C786.FA079580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi, I am coming from = Hong Kong, well, it’s not popular in HK about FreeBSD, so I want to = make a non-profit company in Hong Kong to maintain this things, the basic idea = are similar to MC$E by Micro$oft,

But I was changed = something, this FreeBSD exam passed people can help to make question for next = candidate, so we can make hardly question for new candidate, and this exam only = need a few USD ( maybe 10-15$USD ) , just for balance FreeBSD and this exam cost = J<= /span>

If you have any idea, = please email to me, moreover, we do not care if it’s worldwide, if you = want to help to make this exam question, please tell me, maybe I will let you = join J<= /span> ( we also accept company to join this = non-profit group )

I hope FreeBSD will = make popular in the world

 

Thanks a = lot

( remember this is non-profit company )

Thomas = Lau

------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C786.FA079580-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 6:39:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web12004.mail.yahoo.com (web12004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F48337B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd2000au@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20010417133957.55619.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.80.67.54] by web12004.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:39:57 EST Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:39:57 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?k=20s?= Subject: netgraph(4) ? (3) ? hmm To: freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, here is a bit of classic ignorance for you. what is the (4) bit mean...version I presume! I am running freebsd 4.2 How do I get netgraph(4) if it has (3) on it? Thanks keith _____________________________________________________________________________ http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - Now showing: Dude Where's My Car, The Wedding Planner, Traffic.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 6:43:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D99037B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:43:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from localhost (faro [192.168.1.7]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA14807; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:43:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:43:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill X-Sender: chris@localhost To: =?iso-8859-1?q?k=20s?= Cc: freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: netgraph(4) ? (3) ? hmm In-Reply-To: <20010417133957.55619.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, [iso-8859-1] k s wrote: > here is a bit of classic ignorance for you. what is the (4) bit > mean...version I presume! This refers to the manual section. If someone tells you to "read netgraph (4)" then you would type man 4 netgraph See man man for more details :^) -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <-> ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 6:44: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE1C37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:44:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by thehousleys.net (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3HDi1n29675; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:44:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) (authenticated) by thehousleys.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3HDhxO29664; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:43:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <3ADC489F.3CFC30C8@thehousleys.net> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:43:59 -0400 From: James Housley Reply-To: jim@thehousleys.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: k s Cc: freeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netgraph(4) ? (3) ? hmm References: <20010417133957.55619.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG k s wrote: > > Hi all, > here is a bit of classic ignorance for you. > what is the (4) bit mean...version I presume! > I am running freebsd 4.2 > How do I get netgraph(4) if it has (3) on it? > Thanks > keith > That is the man page section to look at. man 4 netgraph Somethings have multiple man pages. Do a "man -a time" and you should get time(1), time(3) and time(9). Jim -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign . \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . X - NO Word docs in e-mail . / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi! 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Copy me in your ~/.signature to help me spread! <- Save this lifeform ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 6:44:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mplspop4.mpls.uswest.net (mplspop4.mpls.uswest.net [204.147.80.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C05FF37B43E for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:44:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from buzzwang@gamersgarrison.com) Received: (qmail 56721 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 13:44:50 -0000 Received: from mail.gamersgarrison.com (63.231.177.116) by mplspop4.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 13:44:50 -0000 Received: from ecknick [63.231.177.117] by mail.gamersgarrison.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A86E1FC700E4; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:43:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:42:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000801c0c744$406f1860$0501010a@ecknick> From: "Group Captain Buzzwang" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Subject: WOW!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0C71A.56E06EC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0C71A.56E06EC0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0014_01C0C71A.56E06EC0" ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C0C71A.56E06EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not that this is the appropriate place for this, but I wanted to say thanks to the many people that already responded to a few questions I posted just an hour ago. My mail box flooded over! Thank you! Goes to show just how many people really do care and have no problem helping those of us that are just getting started. And, it shows the great class of people that are part of the FreeBSD community. Thanks again and keep it up! PS: Yes my question was answered. Many times over. :-) ------=_NextPart_001_0014_01C0C71A.56E06EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Not that this is the appropriate place = for this, but I wanted to say thanks to the many people that already = responded to a few questions I posted just an hour ago. My mail box = flooded over! Thank you!

Goes to show just how many people = really do care and have no problem helping those of us that are just = getting started. And, it shows the great class of people that are part = of the FreeBSD community.

Thanks again and keep it up!


PS: Yes my question was answered. Many = times over. :-)

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Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from prm@complexsys.net) Received: from penkovsky.complexsys.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by penkovsky.complexsys.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ACDF723E04; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:53:13 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Philip R.Moyer Reply-To: prm@complexsys.net Organization: Complex Systems Analysis To: k s Subject: Re: netgraph(4) ? (3) ? hmm Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:53:13 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20010417133957.55619.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010417133957.55619.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041709531301.04529@penkovsky.complexsys.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday 17 April 2001 09:39, you wrote: > Hi all, > here is a bit of classic ignorance for you. > what is the (4) bit mean...version I presume! > I am running freebsd 4.2 > How do I get netgraph(4) if it has (3) on it? Keith, That is the manual "section" number. The man pages on a UNIX system are broken down by section: 1 - general user commands 2 - system calls 3 - library functions 4 - special files (like devices) 5 - file formats 6 - games 7 - conventions and misc 8 - system administration commands You can get useful information by entering "man
intro". You can specify the section number to the man(1) command to get the page you want. For example, there are eight intro pages, at least. To get intro for section 4, you type "man 4 intro". So, to answer your last question, you type "man 3 netgraph". The short answer, of course, is "RTFM," but since that's what you were asking how to do, I thought a little more info was in order. Cheers, Phil To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 6:52:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tao.agoron.com (tao.agoron.com [206.181.233.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB2537B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marius@agoron.com) Received: from quasi (quasi.shredco.com [206.181.233.73]) by tao.agoron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA28951; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:52:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marius Kirschner" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4r_Thoren?= , Subject: RE: disk free in /var Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:52:22 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, I've made the same mistake using the default partition table on a recent 4.2 installation. Considering that the /mail and /log directories are in /var I don't understand why it defaults to 20MB?! Anyway, in my case no big harm was done as I just wanted to get my feet wet with FreeBSD (I'm coming from BSDi) and basically I'm going to wipe everything and install 4.3 when it's out. ---Marius > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Pär Thoren > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:23 AM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: disk free in /var > > > Hi! > > I have a problem with the /var partition. I used the default partiontable > when I installed fbsd. Thats is 20 MB in /var > > 'df' list: > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0s1a 49583 34348 11269 75% / > /dev/da0s1f 8361849 1278255 6414647 17% /usr > /dev/da0s1e 19815 18140 90 100% /var > procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc > > as you can see /var i full. > but 'du -d1 /var' lists: > > 2 /var/account > 3 /var/at > 11 /var/backups > 2 /var/crash > 3 /var/cron > 2 /var/msgs > 1 /var/preserve > 49 /var/run > 1 /var/rwho > 16 /var/spool > 2 /var/tmp > 20 /var/yp > 113 /var/ > > 113 Kbyte in use????? where did the rest go? This give med problems with > mail not being delivered. > > /Pär > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 6:52:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7D037B43E; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:52:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from scsiguy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3HDq6s24047; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:52:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200104171352.f3HDq6s24047@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: GavinCameron@synergy.com.au Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec ASC-29160 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:24:29 +1000." Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:52:06 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Does anyone know whether or not the Adaptec ASC-29160 SCSI will work with >4.2 or the upcoming 4.3? I would suggest using 4.3. Although the card should be detected in 4.2, there were a few driver bugs that have been corrected since that release. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7: 6:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c0039.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFFF37B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA29357; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:06:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3ADC4DCB.9167BFBB@nisser.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:06:03 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: Nisser - Nr. 1 in Veiligheid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Cc: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Starting JAIL References: <20010416154914.H79383-100000@Amber.XtremeDev.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD wrote: > > ... > I'm curious as to how a user can break out of a FreeBSD chroot. According > to http://docs.freebsd.org/44doc/papers/jail/jail-6.html#section8, three > three classes of chroot attacks were countered in FreeBSD. Are there other > ways to break out of chroot than those mentioned? None that I know, but that ain't saying much. But do consider the amount of tedious, even manual, labour that went into it. Structured code walkthroughs aren't the world most exciting tasks. Except when you're a cracker looking for a hole in the wall, of course. Also, the jail code went live not so long ago. It's still early days. For production systems I think it's courting trouble (providing shell access, that is). It's truly a great and exciting step forward... very promising . Roelof To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7: 7: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fbsd.bosa.ca (cr1003901-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.37.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4708237B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kulraj@bosa.ca) Received: from ska1 (h207-230-227-196.dccnet.com [207.230.227.196]) by fbsd.bosa.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id AA531158EB9; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002601c0c748$31abf6a0$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> From: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" To: , References: <20010417061759.0738136F9@sitemail.everyone.net> Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:10:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I read that FreeBSD is aimed more at Intel CPUs, I am curious where you read that? FreeBSD is developed for the i386 platform - which as far as I understand translates to 32bit chips with an x86 compatible core. Yes AMD fits in that category - hell even the CPU's VIA are putting out qualify (and work). > and I wonder if I made the right decision in the first place. Does AMD work fine with FreeBSD? Thanks. In a word, YES! Regards, Kulraj Gurm > > == > _____________________________________________ > > /"\ ASCII Ribbon campaign against E-Mail > \ / in gratuitous HTML and Microsoft > X proprietary formats. > / \ > > _____________________________________________________________ > Systems at MACHSPEED!! > http://sysmach.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7: 7:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.total.net (rossine.total.net [154.11.89.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E19C637B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:07:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cckok00@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 7217 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 14:07:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (154.20.96.59) by smtp.total.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 14:07:12 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADC4E21.F2A2B366@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:07:29 -0400 From: Peter Kok X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: qmail starting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I have error when starting the qmail please help me how to solve this problem email# ./qmail.sh email# tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used Tks regards Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:16:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.riic.uni-linz.ac.at (mail.riic.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.161.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D91137B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:16:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hueber@riic.at) Received: from riic.uni-linz.ac.at (hawkings.riic.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.161.239]) by mail.riic.uni-linz.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10607; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:11:43 +0200 Message-ID: <3ADC4F1C.36BCA2B0@riic.uni-linz.ac.at> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:11:40 +0200 From: Gernot Hueber X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Kok Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: qmail starting References: <3ADC4E21.F2A2B366@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG inetd is listening on port 110 (pop3) to start a pop3 service and tcpserver tries to listen to this port, too. Edit you inetd.conf, comment the line for your pop3 service and killall -HUP inetd will solve your problem. Gernot Peter Kok schrieb: > Hi all > > I have error when starting the qmail > please help me how to solve this problem > > email# ./qmail.sh > email# tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used > tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used > > Tks > > regards > Peter > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Dipl.-Ing. Gernot Hueber Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen Freistädter Strasse 315/2 A-4040 Linz Tel: +43 732 2468-7122, Fax: -7126 E-mail: hueber@riic.at To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:19:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2324D37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:19:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id f3HEJre18703; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:19:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Trevin Chow Subject: Re: Why do all ports want Xfree86 3.3.6_8? In-Reply-To: <20010417110804.A86484@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Rasputin wrote: > * Trevin Chow [010417 10:34]: > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Rasputin wrote: > > > > > XFREE86_VERSION=4 > > > > > > in /etc/make.conf. > > > > Do you mean /etc/defaults/make.conf? > > I didn't, but that will work. NO!! Yes, it will "work", but there's a good reason the two are separate. Leave the /etc/defaults/ files alone, and make your changes in a file of the same name in /etc. So in this case, add XFREE86_VERSION=4 to /etc/make.conf, and it will override any setting in /etc/defaults/make.conf. When you eventually run mergemaster after updating your machine, it will update /etc/defaults/make.conf, but your changes will be left intact in /etc/make.conf. It makes life much easier in upgrades this way. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:24:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from black.purplecat.net (ns1.purplecat.net [209.16.228.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA76037B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:24:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@black.purplecat.net) Received: from localhost (peter@localhost) by black.purplecat.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24302 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:26:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from peter@black.purplecat.net) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:26:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Brezny To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: three nics, two networks, simple routing problem... (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The excerpt from my rc.conf mostly illustrates what I'm trying to do. I want to connect a host (10.30.1.15) to xl1 So that I can partition it's traffic from that of the lan connected to xl2. 10.30.1.1 GW----xl0 10.30.1.30 FW xl2----10.20.30.1 LAN | xl1 | | 10.30.1.15 FW ----- 10.20.15.1 LAN However, with my current conf files, I can't even ping xl1 from the box it's in. I can manually add a route, but I still can't ping the interface itself. What have I missed? TIA Peter Brezny SysAdmin Services Inc. my rc.conf looks like this. ifconfig_xl0="inet 10.30.1.30 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_xl1="inet 10.30.1.31 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_xl2="inet 10.20.30.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" xl1 is the iface giving problems. when you look at just the output of a ifconfig, things look ok. xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.30.1.30 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.30.1.255 inet6 fe80::201:2ff:feed:4275%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:01:02:ed:42:75 media: autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX xl1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.30.1.31 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.30.1.255 inet6 fe80::201:2ff:feed:4225%xl1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:01:02:ed:42:25 media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX xl2: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.20.30.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.20.30.255 inet6 fe80::210:4bff:fe98:52cd%xl2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 ether 00:10:4b:98:52:cd media: autoselect (none) status: no carrier supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX However, netstat -r just gives this. Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 10.30.1.1 UGSc 1 7 xl0 10.20.30/24 link#3 UC 0 0 xl2 => 10.30.1/24 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 => localhost localhost UH 1 106 lo0 Obviously the problem here is that the 10.30.1/24 network is routing through xl0, when I want to route just part of that network through xl1. Since the only machine that's going to be connected to xl1 has an address of 10.30.1.15, I tried adding a static route to it, without luck. First just with route add 10.30.1.15 10.30.1.31 still tries to send the packet through xl0, and although route add 10.30.1.15 -interface xl1 does put in the correct interface in the routing table, It doesn't work. Any Ideas? Thanks again. Peter Brezny SysAdmin Services Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:24:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obelix.rby.hk-r.se (obelix-140.rby.hk-r.se [194.47.140.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E3B37B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:24:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from t98pth@student.bth.se) Received: from beholder.rby.hk-r.se (beholder [194.47.134.162]) by obelix.rby.hk-r.se (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f3HEOPM17718; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:24:25 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (t98pth@localhost) by beholder.rby.hk-r.se (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f3HEOOq23553; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:24:25 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: beholder.rby.hk-r.se: t98pth owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:24:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E4r_Thoren?= X-Sender: t98pth@beholder.rby.hk-r.se To: Marius Kirschner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: disk free in /var In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I did make a mistake by using the default values... but the real question was howcome df shows that 20 MB is used and du shows 113 KB is used. /P=E4r On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Marius Kirschner wrote: > Yes, I've made the same mistake using the default partition table on a > recent 4.2 installation. Considering that the /mail and /log directories > are in /var I don't understand why it defaults to 20MB?! Anyway, in my c= ase > no big harm was done as I just wanted to get my feet wet with FreeBSD (I'= m > coming from BSDi) and basically I'm going to wipe everything and install = 4.3 > when it's out. >=20 > ---Marius >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of P=E4r Thoren > > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:23 AM > > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: disk free in /var > > > > > > Hi! > > > > I have a problem with the /var partition. I used the default partiontab= le > > when I installed fbsd. Thats is 20 MB in /var > > > > 'df' list: > > > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/da0s1a 49583 34348 11269 75% / > > /dev/da0s1f 8361849 1278255 6414647 17% /usr > > /dev/da0s1e 19815 18140 90 100% /var > > procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc > > > > as you can see /var i full. > > but 'du -d1 /var' lists: > > > > 2=09/var/account > > 3=09/var/at > > 11=09/var/backups > > 2=09/var/crash > > 3=09/var/cron > > 2=09/var/msgs > > 1=09/var/preserve > > 49=09/var/run > > 1=09/var/rwho > > 16=09/var/spool > > 2=09/var/tmp > > 20=09/var/yp > > 113=09/var/ > > > > 113 Kbyte in use????? where did the rest go? This give med problems wit= h > > mail not being delivered. > > > > /P=E4r > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > >=20 >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:30:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF3D37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:30:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hacker@bolingbroke.com) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id f3HETle18758; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:29:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: three nics, two networks, simple routing problem... (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Peter Brezny wrote: > my rc.conf looks like this. > > ifconfig_xl0="inet 10.30.1.30 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_xl1="inet 10.30.1.31 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_xl2="inet 10.20.30.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > xl1 is the iface giving problems. You can't have two interfaces on the same subnet. (xl0 and xl1) Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:31:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF1637B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:31:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14pWUl-0007yB-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:30:19 +0300 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:30:19 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-Q Subject: SMP Message-ID: <20010417173019.D28689@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="76DTJ5CE0DCVQemd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 5:22PM up 23:46, 5 users, load averages: 1.90, 1.04, 0.51 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --76DTJ5CE0DCVQemd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, For the first time I've built an SMP kernel and the box boots up fine, detecting the 2 CPUs but I am just wondering at what point the 2nd CPU comes into play. Is this when the 1st CPU has load of some %age?? How can I monitor the loads on the CPUs? 2ndly when I run 'top' I see 84 processes , 2 running 72 sleeping 10 zombie Why do I have zombies? Can I kill them? TIA =20 -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Minors in Kansas City, Missouri, are not allowed to purchase cap pistols; they may buy shotguns freely, however. --76DTJ5CE0DCVQemd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63FN7n7LIsuxjem8RAgqQAKCDPMjQ/pX1F2B1YUPdfFu3Uj2ADgCggwDF BRXCQPsyBxSP8oEOIafeUVY= =P8zc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --76DTJ5CE0DCVQemd-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:39:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from black.purplecat.net (ns1.purplecat.net [209.16.228.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329C737B449 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:39:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@black.purplecat.net) Received: from localhost (peter@localhost) by black.purplecat.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24353; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:42:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from peter@black.purplecat.net) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:42:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Brezny To: Ken Bolingbroke Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: three nics, two networks, simple routing problem... (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Ken, Is this where the options BRIDGE might come in handy? If so, does anyone have some pointers as to how to implement it in this situation? I know it seems like a weird setup, but i'm forced into it since the xl0 interface is plugged into a breezcom wireless device, which latches on to the first mac address it sees, keeping me from just plugging a hub into the wireless device. Thanks again. pb On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Ken Bolingbroke wrote: > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Peter Brezny wrote: > > > my rc.conf looks like this. > > > > ifconfig_xl0="inet 10.30.1.30 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > ifconfig_xl1="inet 10.30.1.31 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > ifconfig_xl2="inet 10.20.30.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > > > xl1 is the iface giving problems. > > You can't have two interfaces on the same subnet. (xl0 and xl1) > > Ken > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:47: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B820D37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:46:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14pWj6-00089Q-00; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:45:08 +0300 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:45:07 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: simond@irrelevant.org Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: SMP Message-ID: <20010417174507.A31149@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , simond@irrelevant.org, FBSD-Q References: <20010417173019.D28689@everest.wananchi.com> <20010417153638.B25882@irrelevant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010417153638.B25882@irrelevant.org>; from "simond@irrelevant.org" on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:36:38PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 5:41PM up 1 day, 5 mins, 4 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.30, 0.44 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * simond@irrelevant.org [20010417 17:35]: writing o= n the subject 'Re: SMP' simond> On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 05:30:19PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: simond> > Hello, simond> > For the first time I've built an SMP kernel and the box boots up = fine, simond> > detecting the 2 CPUs but I am just wondering at what point the 2n= d CPU simond> > comes into play. Is this when the 1st CPU has load of some %age?? simond> > How can I monitor the loads on the CPUs? simond>=20 simond> Generally I guess the 2nd processor is used whenever two or more pr= ocesses simond> are trying to run at once, I just got myself a dual p3/733 system l= ast week simond> so I'm still getting the hang of it. The best way I've found is to = just use simond> top (1) and will say CPU0 for the state when it's on the first cpu = and CPU1 simond> for the 2nd. Thanks for the quick response. I hope you're also running FreeBSD. When I r= un 'top' all it tells me is CPU status, no CPU0 or CPU1 And I think/believe I am booting an SMP kernel [dmesg] Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RC #1: Thu Apr 12 16:54:02 EAT 2001 wash@everest.wananchi.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Kern4.x Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (447.69-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x673 Stepping =3D 3 Features=3D0x387fbff real memory =3D 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory =3D 126832640 (123860K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0388000. VESA: v2.0, 2048k memory, flags:0x0, mode table:0xc031d6a2 (1000022) VESA: Cirrus Logic GD-5480 VGA Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard IOAPIC #0 intpin 19 -> irq 2 IOAPIC #0 intpin 21 -> irq 9 pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 15.0 on = pci1 pci2: on pcib3 pcib4: at device 4.0 on p= ci2 pci3: on pcib4 ahc0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xf41= 00000-0xf4100fff irq 2 at device 12.0 on pci0 aic7896/97: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=3D7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0x2400-0x24ff mem 0xf41= 01000-0xf4101fff irq 2 at device 12.1 on pci0 aic7896/97: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=3D7, 32/255 SCBs fxp0: port 0x2800-0x283f mem 0xf4000000-0= xf40fffff,0xf4102000-0xf4102fff irq 9 at device 14.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:f6:72:c6 isab0: at device 18.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x2860-0x286f at device 18.1 o= n pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x2840-0x285f irq 9 a= t device 18.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Timecounter "PIIX" frequency 3579545 Hz chip1: port 0x1040-0x104f at de= vice 18.3 on pci0 pci0: at 20.0 pcib1: on motherboard pci4: on pcib1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device=20 da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing En= abled da0: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device=20 da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing En= abled da1: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) [/dmesg.boot] -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Yes, but every time I try to see things your way, I get a headache. --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63Fbzn7LIsuxjem8RAlOJAJ4oM6fl6URP2x+8e7YISdcCYBGwHACdEx/5 H0C8ksycL+lET8hGUuZ6MaA= =4CAr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:48:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linuxmail.touchtunes.com (operator.touchtunes.com [216.94.139.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BEE37B440 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:48:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdinel@touchtunes.com) Received: from touchtunes.com (dinjo.touchtunes.com [192.168.0.26]) by linuxmail.touchtunes.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA21259 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:48:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3ADC57A8.5B7210A3@touchtunes.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:48:08 -0400 From: Joel Dinel Organization: TouchTunes Digital Jukebox, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: OT: Procmail rule Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm looking for a very basic procmail rule that will reply to *every* mail sent to a user with something like "Out of the office - back monday". Thanks -- Joel Dinel TouchTunes Digital Jukebox, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:48:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3DE37B43E; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:48:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3HCQQw65898; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:26:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:26:26 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: stable@Freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: FAQ Updates Message-ID: <20010417132626.A65888@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FreeBSD FAQ Updates The following changes have been made to the FreeBSD FAQ since 2001-4-4: Added questions: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Where can I get an Office Suite for FreeBSD? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#OFFICESUITE Questions that have changed: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D Making the most of a kernel panic http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#KERNEL-PANIC-TROUBLESHOOTING Last change: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/boo= ks/faq/book.sgml?rev=3D1.170&content-type=3Dtext/x-cvsweb-markup This is a weekly service. Updates will be posted to the FreeBSD -questio= ns and -stable mailing lists sometime every Monday. As always, you can read the complete FAQ at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/ --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrcNnEACgkQk6gHZCw343WkYQCfWW3FZYdT1mKAuPwrim3rKYZp pxsAn3qfnikJ/twoDnk4A1FbF1nCoCeA =OEMW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:53: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844A537B43E for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:52:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14pWqf-000FJT-00; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:52:57 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3HEqvP90994; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:52:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:52:56 +0100 From: Rasputin To: Ken Bolingbroke Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why do all ports want Xfree86 3.3.6_8? Message-ID: <20010417155256.A90894@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <20010417110804.A86484@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from hacker@bolingbroke.com on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 07:19:53AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Ken Bolingbroke [010417 15:21]: > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Rasputin wrote: > > > * Trevin Chow [010417 10:34]: > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Rasputin wrote: > > > > > > > XFREE86_VERSION=4 > > > > > > > > in /etc/make.conf. > > > > > > Do you mean /etc/defaults/make.conf? > > > > I didn't, but that will work. > > NO!! Yes, it will "work", Isn't that what I said? :) I never mess with defaults, but a lot of people do. There should be a comment at the top of /etc/defaults/make.conf that says 'copy this to /etc/make.conf and edit it to taste' like /etc/defaults/rc.conf does. Any commiters around? I'm sure you've got loads of time on your hands with a RELEASE looming... [ /me ducks and runs ] -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:53:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tao.agoron.com (tao.agoron.com [206.181.233.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D255137B43E for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marius@agoron.com) Received: from quasi (quasi.shredco.com [206.181.233.73]) by tao.agoron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA03104; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:53:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marius Kirschner" To: "Joel Dinel" , Subject: RE: Procmail rule Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:53:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-reply-to: <3ADC57A8.5B7210A3@touchtunes.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you looked at 'man vacation'? I'm not sure if it'll work with procmail as I use sendmail here but if you can use a .forward file then I don't see why not. ---Marius > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Joel Dinel > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:48 AM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: OT: Procmail rule > > > I'm looking for a very basic procmail rule that will reply to *every* > mail sent to a user with something like "Out of the office - back > monday". > > Thanks > > > -- > Joel Dinel > TouchTunes Digital Jukebox, Inc. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 7:54:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oddjob.adhesivemedia.com (oddjob.adhesivemedia.com [207.202.159.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3472F37B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:54:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost) by oddjob.adhesivemedia.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3HEsdu50960; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:54:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:54:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Joel Dinel Cc: Subject: Re: OT: Procmail rule In-Reply-To: <3ADC57A8.5B7210A3@touchtunes.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG man vacation On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Joel Dinel wrote: > I'm looking for a very basic procmail rule that will reply to *every* > mail sent to a user with something like "Out of the office - back > monday". > > Thanks > > > -- > Joel Dinel > TouchTunes Digital Jukebox, Inc. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 8: 0:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9593937B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:00:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14pWyJ-0002zn-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:00:51 -0700 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pkg_add from a dir other than ../Latest/... Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:00:51 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i want to pkg_add -r ftp://ftp2.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/packages/x11/XFree86-4.0.3.tgz but pkg_add -r goes from ../Latest/... where's the config/hack for this? randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 8: 2:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web4805.mail.yahoo.com (web4805.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.105.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 480EC37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:02:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamburger46@yahoo.es) Message-ID: <20010417150206.10650.qmail@web4805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.25.106.197] by web4805.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:02:06 CEST Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:02:06 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Cecilia=20Hamburger?= Subject: XFree86-4 / 3.3.6 impossible to configure To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm using freebsd-4.3-rc on a dual pentium III-550, with 512 mb of ram, cirrus logic gd5480 and a non-interlaced 14' hansol mazellan monitor. I installed Xfree86-4, from ports, but, i want to able to configure, because, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY, xfree86 team changed XF86Setup (excellent tool) to XFree86 -configure, and it doesnt work...so, it's imposible to configure the server (the other tool, xf86config, dont work neither). so, i wento back to xfree86-3.3.6 but it doesnt come with XF86Setup!!!, what's happening? I want to know how can i easily configure the xfree86 or when can i get XF86Setup ??? p.s. is possible to find a good x window different from xfree86 ? thanks, _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Envía mensajes instantáneos y recibe alertas de correo con Yahoo! Messenger - http://messenger.yahoo.es To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 8:18:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B7337B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA32848; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:19:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from simond) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:19:08 +0100 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Subject: Re: SMP Message-ID: <20010417161908.C25882@irrelevant.org> References: <20010417173019.D28689@everest.wananchi.com> <20010417153638.B25882@irrelevant.org> <20010417174507.A31149@everest.wananchi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010417174507.A31149@everest.wananchi.com>; from wash@wananchi.com on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 05:45:07PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 05:45:07PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > * simond@irrelevant.org [20010417 17:35]: writing on the subject 'Re: SMP' > simond> On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 05:30:19PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > simond> > Hello, > simond> > For the first time I've built an SMP kernel and the box boots up fine, > simond> > detecting the 2 CPUs but I am just wondering at what point the 2nd CPU > simond> > comes into play. Is this when the 1st CPU has load of some %age?? > simond> > How can I monitor the loads on the CPUs? > simond> > simond> Generally I guess the 2nd processor is used whenever two or more processes > simond> are trying to run at once, I just got myself a dual p3/733 system last week > simond> so I'm still getting the hang of it. The best way I've found is to just use > simond> top (1) and will say CPU0 for the state when it's on the first cpu and CPU1 > simond> for the 2nd. > > Thanks for the quick response. I hope you're also running FreeBSD. When I run 'top' all it > tells me is CPU status, no CPU0 or CPU1 I am running FreeBSD, yes, it's actually the -STABLE branch as of last week on thursday. After looking at /usr/src/usr.bin/top/machine.c it does indeed print CPU%d. > And I think/believe I am booting an SMP kernel You definitely are running in SMP mode, you can tell by the "SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!" line in the dmesg. -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org "Why do I get this urge to go bowling everytime I see Tux?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 8:22: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B603837B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:22:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from phantom (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3HFMxK17144; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:23:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Message-ID: <01e501c0c752$86bc7fc0$0f01a8c0@phantom> Reply-To: "Gerald T. Freymann" From: "Gerald T. Freymann" To: "Peter Brezny" Cc: References: Subject: Re: three nics, two networks, simple routing problem... (fwd) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:24:42 -0400 Organization: eagle.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why not put an alias on one of the NICS, thus, requiring only two NICs? -Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Brezny" To: "Ken Bolingbroke" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:42 AM Subject: Re: three nics, two networks, simple routing problem... (fwd) Thanks Ken, Is this where the options BRIDGE might come in handy? If so, does anyone have some pointers as to how to implement it in this situation? I know it seems like a weird setup, but i'm forced into it since the xl0 interface is plugged into a breezcom wireless device, which latches on to the first mac address it sees, keeping me from just plugging a hub into the wireless device. Thanks again. pb On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Ken Bolingbroke wrote: > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Peter Brezny wrote: > > > my rc.conf looks like this. > > > > ifconfig_xl0="inet 10.30.1.30 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > ifconfig_xl1="inet 10.30.1.31 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > ifconfig_xl2="inet 10.20.30.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > > > xl1 is the iface giving problems. > > You can't have two interfaces on the same subnet. (xl0 and xl1) > > Ken > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 8:24: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-01.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F133037B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:24:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from katinka@magestower.com) Received: (qmail 15791 invoked by uid 666); 17 Apr 2001 15:23:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO WSKATINKA) (203.59.187.128) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 15:23:55 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c0c751$fd697840$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> From: "Kathy Quinlan" To: Subject: Mailer deamons Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:20:50 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I have postfix running on my server, it receives mail via smtp and puts it into a file in the /var/mail dir. I have qpopper running on the server also for clients to retrieve their mail. qpopper grabs mail from a different file than send mail dumps it in , how do I fix this ???? Also is this the best solution, or should I throw it all in the bin and use a different set of mail servers. As a newbie I rely on advice, and I think I may have been pulled in two different directions :o( Regards, Kat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 8:30:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F15037B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:30:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from phantom (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3HFVdK18817; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:31:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Message-ID: <01f301c0c753$bcd0fe00$0f01a8c0@phantom> Reply-To: "Gerald T. Freymann" From: "Gerald T. Freymann" To: "Joel Dinel" Cc: References: <3ADC57A8.5B7210A3@touchtunes.com> Subject: Re: Procmail rule Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:33:21 -0400 Organization: eagle.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm looking for a very basic procmail rule that will reply to *every* > mail sent to a user with something like "Out of the office - back > monday". Awh, I found just the thing, and it's "smart" too! Set it up this way to start with.. go to /usr/home/luser create a file called "vacation.txt" with whatever you want sent back to the person who emails the luser, something like: ============start======== I am currently away until Monday when I'll return hung over and pale. Thank you, Joe Luser ==============stop============ create /usr/home/luser/.procmailrc ===start===== # Set to yes when debugging VERBOSE=no # Remove ## when debugging; set to no if you want minimal logging LOGABSTRACT=no # Replace $HOME/Msgs with your message directory # Pine uses $HOME/mail MAILDIR=$HOME/mail # Make sure this directory exists! # Directory for storing procmail-related files PMDIR=$HOME/Procmail # Put ## before LOGFILE if you want no logging (not recommended) LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/procmail.rc =====stop==== Create a subdirectory called Procmail In this directory, create procmail.rc (/usr/home/luser/Procmail/procmail.rc) =============start=========== :0 Whc: vacation.lock # Perform a quick check to see if the mail was addressed to us * $^To:.*luser@yourdomain.com # Don't reply to daemons and mailinglists * !^FROM_DAEMON # Mail loops are evil * !^X-Loop: luser@yourdomain.com | formail -rD 8192 /usr/home/luser/Procmail/vacation.cache :0 eh # if the name was not in the cache | (formail -rI"Precedence: junk" \ -A"X-Loop: luser@yourdomain.com" ; \ cat $HOME/vacation.txt \ ) | $SENDMAIL -oi -t ==============stop============ I got this off a Procmail help page.... I think it was in here: http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/info/proctips.html Enjoy! -Gerry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 8:56: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ds1.brooks.com (mailin.brooks.com [63.71.19.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C577937B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:56:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jaeho.Lee@brooks.com) Received: from ims-naeast1.brooks.com ([10.10.254.19]) by ds1.brooks.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14pXkc-0006Ei-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:50:46 -0400 Received: by ims-naeast1.brooks.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:55:11 -0400 Message-ID: <857F15D7E3D8D3118D290008C7CF058602C9767A@mail-naeast1.brooks.com> From: "Lee, Jaeho" To: "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: does upsd support BACK-UPS from APC Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:52:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, The description of upsd in ports collection says that it supports Smart-UPS. I bought BACK-UPS (the cheapest model in APC products) today. Is it supported by upsd? Does smart-ups mean a specific product of APC? Or is it general term means "sending siginal when battery is going down"? Thanks, /Jaeho To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9: 1:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.dynamic-cast.com (r175-5-dsl.sea.lightrealm.net [216.122.5.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AE837B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:01:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from herveyw@dynamic-cast.com) Received: from chillipepper (chillipepper.dynamic-cast.com [192.168.1.1]) by matrix.dynamic-cast.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3HG13s10684; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:01:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from herveyw@dynamic-cast.com) Message-ID: <001501c0c757$ab395f80$0101a8c0@chillipepper> From: "Hervey Wilson" To: "Lee, Jaeho" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" References: <857F15D7E3D8D3118D290008C7CF058602C9767A@mail-naeast1.brooks.com> Subject: Re: does upsd support BACK-UPS from APC Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:01:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Lee, Jaeho" > > The description of upsd in ports collection says that it supports Smart-UPS. > I bought BACK-UPS (the cheapest model in APC products) today. Is it > supported by upsd? Not sure about upsd, but the 'nut' package works nicely for me, check it out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9: 2:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (web804.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2065337B634 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:02:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mol666@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 2355 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Apr 2001 16:02:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20010417160225.2354.qmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.9.25.11] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:02:25 PDT Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:02:25 -0700 (PDT) From: alissa bader Subject: Re: can't get ports collection to work To: kstewart@urx.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3ADBCC27.211EC212@urx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Kent Stewart wrote: > Nothing to do with the OS. There is only a tag=. > version of the ports. If > you are cvsup'ing ports-all, you could always rm -rf > * from the port > directory that your are trying to install and then > recvsup. A few people are > cd /usr/ports and rm -rf * and recvsup. This is sort > of like trying to shoot > a mouse with an elephant gun. I tend towards the > more elegant solution of > only deleting what you have to delete. well, I opted for the "elephant gun" solution and have successfully done a re-cvsup. I even was able to install bash1, via the ports collection. However, I was not able to successfully start the install of gnome -- specifically it died when it was trying to install python. I will post later on to this list with more details. However. Most other things seem to work :> Thank you so much for the help, I sure do appreciate it :> --alissa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9:14:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net [24.69.46.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C8F37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:14:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (localhost.gv.shawcable.net [127.0.0.1]) by h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3HGHT123140; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:17:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Michael O'Henly" Reply-To: michael@tenzo.com Organization: TENZO Design To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86-4 / 3.3.6 impossible to configure Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:17:29 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20010417150206.10650.qmail@web4805.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010417150206.10650.qmail@web4805.mail.yahoo.com> Cc: Cecilia Hamburger MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041709172900.23087@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi... I also had trouble with the new configuration utility in XFree86-4.0.3 and never did get it working properly. (It started up at a miniscule resolution and did not seem able to save the values I entered.) So I gritted my teeth and used "xf86config" at the command line. Quite honestly, xf86config is not that difficult to use provided you know a bit about your display card and monitor. In particular, you should check the monitor's documentation for horizontal and vertical scan rates. They may be noted as a range (mine were 30-95Hz and 50-180Hz). You should also know how much video RAM your display adapter has. I think the only thing you can't do with xf86config is geometry, size, and position adjustments. M. On Tuesday 17 April 2001 08:02, Cecilia Hamburger wrote: > Hi, I'm using freebsd-4.3-rc on a dual pentium > III-550, with 512 mb of ram, cirrus logic gd5480 and a > non-interlaced 14' hansol mazellan monitor. > I installed Xfree86-4, from ports, but, i want to able > to configure, because, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY, xfree86 > team changed XF86Setup (excellent tool) to XFree86 > -configure, and it doesnt work...so, it's imposible to > configure the server (the other tool, xf86config, dont > work neither). -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9:16:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.takas.lt (srvr3.telecom.lt [212.59.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F67937B73B for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:16:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from b-tadas@takas.lt) Received: from localhost (flatrate691.kns.takas.lt [213.190.61.249]) by mail.takas.lt (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA1909438 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:16:29 +0200 (GMT+0200) Received: (qmail 2957 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Apr 2001 07:55:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:55:13 +0200 From: Tadas To: FreeBSD Subject: ppp Message-ID: <20010415095513.A2156@tadas.lt> Reply-To: b-tadas@takas.lt Mail-Followup-To: Tadas , FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gal kas galÄ—tų atsiųst man į mail'Ä… pppd ir user-ppp binarus su priklausomom bibliotekom iÅ¡ FreeBSD 4.2 ar 4.3? Iki, Tadas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9:22:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.txucom.net (mail4.txucom.net [207.70.175.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 841C337B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:22:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@superjake.net) Received: (qmail 7284 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 16:22:27 -0000 Received: from lfkn-adsl-pwoodahec.txucom.net (HELO superjake.net) ([207.70.146.31]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.txucom.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Apr 2001 16:22:27 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADC6DC2.6A6F773F@superjake.net> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:22:26 -0500 From: Robert Small X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: arplookup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Last week I switched from dial-up to a cable modem, added nat & ipfw. It works GREAT, except for one thing. My /var/log/messages is full of: Apr 17 06:45:30 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on local network Apr 17 06:55:30 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on local network Apr 17 07:05:30 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on local network Apr 17 07:15:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on local network Apr 17 07:25:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on local network Apr 17 07:35:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on local network Apr 17 07:45:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on local network Apr 17 07:55:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on local network Apr 17 08:05:32 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on local network I've checked the freebsd archives and didn't find anything useful. Any one have any idea on how to solve this? Robert output of ifconfig dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 inet6 fe80::2a0:ccff:fe60:ef6%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:a0:cc:60:0e:f6 media: autoselect (100baseTX) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none dc1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::2c0:f0ff:fe6c:51d0%dc1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 66.76.50.151 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.76.50.255 ether 00:c0:f0:6c:51:d0 media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX none lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 faith0: flags=8000 mtu 1500 gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif1: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif2: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif3: flags=8010 mtu 1280 -- ----------------------------------------------------------- The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9:25:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB86837B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:25:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graywane@home.com) Received: from michael.example.net ([65.2.79.221]) by femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010417162542.CQSO6845.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@michael.example.net> for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:25:42 -0700 Received: (from graywane@localhost) by michael.example.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3HGPfv00920 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:25:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from graywane) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:25:41 -0400 From: Graywane To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: does upsd support BACK-UPS from APC Message-ID: <20010417122541.A872@home.com> References: <857F15D7E3D8D3118D290008C7CF058602C9767A@mail-naeast1.brooks.com> <001501c0c757$ab395f80$0101a8c0@chillipepper> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001501c0c757$ab395f80$0101a8c0@chillipepper>; from herveyw@dynamic-cast.com on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:01:30AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:01:30AM -0700, Hervey Wilson wrote: > From: "Lee, Jaeho" > > The description of upsd in ports collection says that it supports > > Smart-UPS. > > I bought BACK-UPS (the cheapest model in APC products) today. Is it > > supported by upsd? > > Not sure about upsd, but the 'nut' package works nicely for me, check it > out. upsd does support the BACK-UPS series although I've had odd things happen with it from time to time. On one machine it was setup to wait 90 seconds, warn the users, wait 90 more seconds and then shutdown the machine. However, a 1 second brownout caused the UPSs to go to battery and upsd shutdown the machine instantly (which was more than a little annoying). You can download the Simple Signaling Daemon (ssd) from APC's web page. It is for linux but compiles with minor modifications on FreeBSD and works like a charm. -- Note: See http://www.members.home.net/graywane/ for PGP information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9:29: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from prg.traveller.cz (prg.traveller.cz [193.85.2.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5905537B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:28:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mime@traveller.cz) Received: from prg.traveller.cz (prg.traveller.cz [193.85.2.2]) by prg.traveller.cz (EUnet.1022902037-17/pukvis) with ESMTP id f3HGSvK04583 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:28:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:28:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Michal Mertl To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quotaon -a (probably bug) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Christopher J. Umina" wrote: > Whenever I type quotaon -a /usr my server stops responding... Why = >is that? Is there any type of resolution to this problem? I came across this problem too with recent stable but I would guess it's older. Some operations with quotas made syncer kernel subprocess to hang in ckqt2 (as found by ps efl - maybe a bit different function, sorry I don't remember). Any process which tries to access disk get stuck in inode and can't be killed even with -9. Unforunately I don't remember what was the exact sentence of commands I did before everything seems to work. I know I run edquota, quotaon, checkquota and may be something else and after two (or 3) restarts (with frozen syncer - system wouldn't even reboot (waits 60 second for syncer to finish then it seems it's going to reboot but never does and hard reset is needed) it started to work. It might be that the reason was nonexistent quota.user and quota.group files. -- Michal Mertl mime@traveller.cz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9:36:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nbrewer.com (sparge.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163A937B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:36:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@nbrewer.com) Received: by mail.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EEC65383097; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:36:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:36:11 -0500 From: Christopher Farley To: Graywane Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: does upsd support BACK-UPS from APC Message-ID: <20010417113609.A39486@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , Graywane , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <857F15D7E3D8D3118D290008C7CF058602C9767A@mail-naeast1.brooks.com> <001501c0c757$ab395f80$0101a8c0@chillipepper> <20010417122541.A872@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010417122541.A872@home.com>; from graywane@home.com on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:25:41PM -0400 Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Graywane (graywane@home.com) wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:01:30AM -0700, Hervey Wilson wrote: > upsd does support the BACK-UPS series although I've had odd things happen > with it from time to time. On one machine it was setup to wait 90 seconds, > warn the users, wait 90 more seconds and then shutdown the machine. However, > a 1 second brownout caused the UPSs to go to battery and upsd shutdown the > machine instantly (which was more than a little annoying). It is not clear from the ports description, but I've been told that upsd is hard-coded to work with European 220v rather than US 120v power. /usr/ports/sysutils/bkupsd works for me. -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9:38: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C310E37B443 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:37:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3HGalp68650; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:36:47 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:36:47 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Robert Small Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: arplookup Message-ID: <20010417193647.A68182@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Small , questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3ADC6DC2.6A6F773F@superjake.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ADC6DC2.6A6F773F@superjake.net>; from robert@superjake.net on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:22:26AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Your routing table has an entry with both indirect destination and indirect gateway. Send me `netstat -Arn -finet' output if you need more help. On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:22:26AM -0500, Robert Small wrote: > Last week I switched from dial-up to a cable modem, added nat & ipfw. > It works GREAT, except for one thing. My /var/log/messages is full of: > > Apr 17 06:45:30 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > local network > Apr 17 06:55:30 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > local network > Apr 17 07:05:30 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > local network > Apr 17 07:15:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > local network > Apr 17 07:25:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > local network > Apr 17 07:35:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > local network > Apr 17 07:45:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > local network > Apr 17 07:55:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > local network > Apr 17 08:05:32 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > local network > > I've checked the freebsd archives and didn't find anything useful. > > Any one have any idea on how to solve this? > > Robert > > output of ifconfig > dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 > inet6 fe80::2a0:ccff:fe60:ef6%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > ether 00:a0:cc:60:0e:f6 > media: autoselect (100baseTX) status: active > supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX > 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none > dc1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet6 fe80::2c0:f0ff:fe6c:51d0%dc1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 > inet 66.76.50.151 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.76.50.255 > ether 00:c0:f0:6c:51:d0 > media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active > supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX > 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX none > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 > sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 > faith0: flags=8000 mtu 1500 > gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280 > gif1: flags=8010 mtu 1280 > gif2: flags=8010 mtu 1280 > gif3: flags=8010 mtu 1280 > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9:41:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.txucom.net (mail4.txucom.net [207.70.175.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03C8137B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:41:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@superjake.net) Received: (qmail 12441 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 16:41:44 -0000 Received: from lfkn-adsl-pwoodahec.txucom.net (HELO superjake.net) ([207.70.146.31]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.txucom.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Apr 2001 16:41:44 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADC7247.24BD7760@superjake.net> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:41:43 -0500 From: Robert Small X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: arplookup References: <3ADC6DC2.6A6F773F@superjake.net> <20010417193647.A68182@sunbay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hopefully this makes sense to you, it's Greek to me! :) root@nuke:/etc# netstat -Arn -finet Routing tables Internet: Address Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire c0a8c3cc (32) c0addc18 : c0adc318 mk = c0a46830 {(0), (0) } c0addc18 (33) c0b7c218 : c0adf718 c0b7c218 (34) c0b84e18 : c0b7c200 c0b84e18 (36) c0a8c3b4 : c0b8ee18 c0a8c3b4 (root node) => c0adf000 default 66.76.50.1 UGSc 6 89 dc1 mask (0) mk = c0a46830 {(0), (0) } c0b8ee18 (46) c0b8ee00 : c0b84e00 c0b8ee00 c0b84e00 c0b7c200 c0adf718 (34) c0ae3f18 : c0addc00 c0ae3f18 (63) c0adf700 : c0ae3f00 mk = c0a46850 {(56), , (255) ffff ffff ff } c0adf700 66.76.50/24 link#2 UC 0 0 dc1 => mask (255) ffff ffff ff mk = c0a46850 {(56), , (255) ffff ffff ff } c0ae3f00 c0addc00 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 26 lo0 c0adc318 (34) c0b89c18 : c0a8c3e4 c0b89c18 (35) c0b6e718 : c0b89c00 c0b6e718 (36) c0adc300 : c0ba3818 c0adc300 192.168.2 link#1 UC 0 0 dc0 => mask (255) ffff ffff ff c0ba3818 (54) c0ba3800 : c0b6e700 c0ba3800 c0b6e700 c0b89c00 c0a8c3e4 (root node) THANKS! Robert Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > Hi! > > Your routing table has an entry with both indirect destination > and indirect gateway. Send me `netstat -Arn -finet' output if > you need more help. > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:22:26AM -0500, Robert Small wrote: > > Last week I switched from dial-up to a cable modem, added nat & ipfw. > > It works GREAT, except for one thing. My /var/log/messages is full of: > > > > Apr 17 06:45:30 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > > local network > > Apr 17 06:55:30 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > > local network > > Apr 17 07:05:30 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > > local network > > Apr 17 07:15:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > > local network > > Apr 17 07:25:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > > local network > > Apr 17 07:35:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > > local network > > Apr 17 07:45:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > > local network > > Apr 17 07:55:31 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > > local network > > Apr 17 08:05:32 nuke /kernel: arplookup 10.2.0.1 failed: host is not on > > local network > > > > I've checked the freebsd archives and didn't find anything useful. > > > > Any one have any idea on how to solve this? > > > > Robert > > > > output of ifconfig > > dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > > inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 > > inet6 fe80::2a0:ccff:fe60:ef6%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > > ether 00:a0:cc:60:0e:f6 > > media: autoselect (100baseTX) status: active > > supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX > > 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none > > dc1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > > inet6 fe80::2c0:f0ff:fe6c:51d0%dc1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 > > inet 66.76.50.151 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.76.50.255 > > ether 00:c0:f0:6c:51:d0 > > media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active > > supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX > > 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX none > > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > > ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 > > sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 > > faith0: flags=8000 mtu 1500 > > gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280 > > gif1: flags=8010 mtu 1280 > > gif2: flags=8010 mtu 1280 > > gif3: flags=8010 mtu 1280 > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. > > Cheers, > -- > Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, > ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, > ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, > +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine > > http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age -- ----------------------------------------------------------- The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9:46:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A878137B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:46:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14pYcg-000DRr-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:46:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:46:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Backup and Verify Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What is the best way to back up a FreeBSD system to tape and verify the backup. I have been trying with dump, but I don't know of any way to verify that. Then, I tried tar with the -W option, and that didn't work (guess my tape drive doesn't support it). Amanda won't work for us because I find it isn't really designed for a single box, but rather for backing up and restoring multiple boxes, AND it's too difficult for the average ordinary layman to do a disaster recovery with Amanda on a totally dead system. Here are my requirements: * Backups must be done on the live system (single machine with a tape drive) * Backups must be level 0 every time, and must be verified. * Backups must be logged, especially the verify * After the verify, the tape must eject. * Must have a disaster recovery solution so that if I get hit by a Mac Truck, the average joe blow can do the disaster recovery. I prefer a bootable cd they can put in which will boot, and ask for the last tape, and will do the restore on a new hard drive, partition it and everything. virtually no user input for disaster recovery. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Sincerely, Rick Duvall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9:55:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B822F37B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14pYlZ-000DSB-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:55:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:55:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup and Verify In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Even a compare would be nice, not just a verify.... Thanks... Sincerely, Rick Duvall On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Rick Duvall wrote: > What is the best way to back up a FreeBSD system to tape and verify the > backup. I have been trying with dump, but I don't know of any way to > verify that. Then, I tried tar with the -W option, and that didn't work > (guess my tape drive doesn't support it). Amanda won't work for us > because I find it isn't really designed for a single box, but rather for > backing up and restoring multiple boxes, AND it's too difficult for the > average ordinary layman to do a disaster recovery with Amanda on a totally > dead system. > > Here are my requirements: > > * Backups must be done on the live system (single machine with a tape > drive) > > * Backups must be level 0 every time, and must be verified. > > * Backups must be logged, especially the verify > > * After the verify, the tape must eject. > > * Must have a disaster recovery solution so that if I get hit by a Mac > Truck, the average joe blow can do the disaster recovery. I prefer a > bootable cd they can put in which will boot, and ask for the last tape, > and will do the restore on a new hard drive, partition it and everything. > virtually no user input for disaster recovery. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks. > > Sincerely, > > Rick Duvall > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 9:59:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D38E37B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:59:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@xena.gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3HGvhW15165; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:57:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@xena.gsicomp.on.ca) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:57:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Emmerton To: Jamie Bowden Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Losing it. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Jamie Bowden wrote: > I've searched the archives, and can't find my own post. Neither can I > find the responses to it. The archives are updated weekly. :( > I know there are a pair of files you can point > the NT boot mangler at which contain FreeBSD's boot block and allow you to > add it to the WinNT boot mangler, but I can't find the actual files. I think there's only one file, and it's called boot.ini. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 10: 6:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sheppard.torfree.net (sheppard.torfree.net [199.71.188.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEFE37B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:06:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ad330@sheppard.torfree.net) Received: by sheppard.torfree.net (Postfix, from userid 4330) id BEABF3E93; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sheppard.torfree.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB6515; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:06:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Greenspoon To: Mark Sergeant Cc: Linh Pham , Roelof Osinga , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: web access In-Reply-To: <200104171239.f3HCcww76807@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I thought I was emailing the Toronto Freenet. Thanks On 17 Apr 2001, Mark Sergeant wrote: > I really don't think this has to do with FreeBSD now does it. I am stabbing in > the dark and after doing a search on google I am guessing you mean the toronto > free net menu ? If so why not contact them :) > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:43:50 -0400 (EDT), Michael Greenspoon said: > > > There doesn't seem to be any way to get to the root. when I quit pine the > > system logs out and disconnects. I am curious about what happened to the > > good old interface - the TFN Main Menu. I thought things would be better > > after that long offline period. > > > > I have never done any of the things you have mentioned and don't > > really understand what you are trying to do. > > > > Thanks again for your support. > > > > mg > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > > > > > On 2001-04-16, Michael Greenspoon scribbled: > > > > > > # I do not know how to get to "/usr/ports/www/lynx" and "make install". > > > # > > > # There doesn't seem to be an access point in the pine setup. > > > > > > Exit out of Pine, su to root (assuming that you are part of the wheel > > > group, if not, logout and log in as root) and run the following command: > > > > > > cd /usr/ports/www/lynx ; make && make install > > > > > > If it states that /user/ports/www/lynx could not be found, then the > > > Portls connection wasn't installed. > > > > > > -- > > > Linh Pham > > > [lplist@closedsrc.org] > > > > > > // 404b - Brain not found > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Honorable, adj.: > Afflicted with an impediment in one's reach. In legislative > bodies, it is customary to mention all members as honorable; as, "the > honorable gentleman is a scurvy cur." > -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 10: 6:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moo.sysabend.org (moo.sysabend.org [63.86.88.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BEC37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:06:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ragnar@sysabend.org) Received: by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BEB2755D; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C2D1D89; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:09:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamie Bowden To: Matthew Emmerton Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Losing it. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Approved: yep X-representing: Only myself. X-badge: We don't need no stinking badges. X-obligatory-profanity: Fuck X-moo: Moo. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Matthew Emmerton wrote: :On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Jamie Bowden wrote: : :> I've searched the archives, and can't find my own post. Neither can I :> find the responses to it. : :The archives are updated weekly. :( You can browse the entire archive from inception, but I was unaware you couldn't search it that far back. Mental note. :> I know there are a pair of files you can point :> the NT boot mangler at which contain FreeBSD's boot block and allow you to :> add it to the WinNT boot mangler, but I can't find the actual files. : :I think there's only one file, and it's called boot.ini. The file I was looking for was boot1, whose location I had forgotten. Someone already pointed out where it's located. It's not on the installation CD, which is why I couldn't find it, as that's where I was searching. I now have FreeBSD booting from Win2k's boot manager (which is just an updated version of NT4.0's) on my laptop. I prefer it to the F? style, as I can set a default instead of 'last booted'. Jamie Bowden -- "It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold" Hunter S Tolkien "Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur" Iain Bowen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 10: 7:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moo.sysabend.org (moo.sysabend.org [63.86.88.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CCF37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:07:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ragnar@sysabend.org) Received: by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 242D5755D; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moo.sysabend.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219B01D89; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:10:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamie Bowden To: Kent Stewart Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Losing it. In-Reply-To: <3ADC3870.49E12D45@urx.com> Message-ID: Approved: yep X-representing: Only myself. X-badge: We don't need no stinking badges. X-obligatory-profanity: Fuck X-moo: Moo. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: : : :Jamie Bowden wrote: :> :> I've searched the archives, and can't find my own post. Neither can I :> find the responses to it. I know there are a pair of files you can point :> the NT boot mangler at which contain FreeBSD's boot block and allow you to :> add it to the WinNT boot mangler, but I can't find the actual files. :> :> Can someone here point me at the relevant files? Please CC me as I'm not :> subscribed to -questions currently. : :I have FreeBSD on the same HD as my boot. I copy /boot/boot1 to :c:\bootsect.bsd. Then I add : :c:\bootsec.bsd="FreeBSD" : :to the operating systems block of my boot.ini. You have to attrib boot.ini :before you can edit it and reattrib it when you get through. I was looking for boot1, which for some reason I thought was in the installation tree somewhere. I have what I wanted working, working now. Thanks. Jamie Bowden -- "It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold" Hunter S Tolkien "Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur" Iain Bowen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 10:11:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.total.net (rossine.total.net [154.11.89.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4790337B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cckok00@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 21290 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 17:11:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (154.20.99.198) by smtp.total.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 17:11:40 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADC795D.2BEE9EC8@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:11:57 -0400 From: Peter Kok X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Lau Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for people help to make certificate for FreeBSD: ( please read this! ) References: <000801c0c743$ebe2cee0$9c10123d@thomasq1rx10yf> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Thomas Freebsd is powerful. I told you before it seldom knows it in HK But it is popular in China now. I introduced freebsd to open unversity before regards Peter Thomas Lau wrote: > Hi, I am coming from Hong Kong, well, it’s not popular in HK about > FreeBSD, so I want to make a non-profit company in Hong Kong to > maintain this things, the basic idea are similar to MC$E by > Micro$oft, > > But I was changed something, this FreeBSD exam passed people can help > to make question for next candidate, so we can make hardly question > for new candidate, and this exam only need a few USD ( maybe 10-15$USD > ) , just for balance FreeBSD and this exam cost J > > If you have any idea, please email to me, moreover, we do not care if > it’s worldwide, if you want to help to make this exam question, please > tell me, maybe I will let you join J ( we also accept company to join > this non-profit group ) > > I hope FreeBSD will make popular in the world > > Thanks a lot > > ( remember this is non-profit company ) > > Thomas Lau > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 10:12:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.sourcee.com (falcon.sourcee.com [12.11.130.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D615437B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:12:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cyeung@sourcee.com) Received: from fremont.sourcee.com (56-135.sourcee.com [12.7.135.56] (may be forged)) by falcon.sourcee.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23257 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ADC798D.C8C67945@fremont.sourcee.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:12:45 -0700 From: Chimon Yeung X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: UNIX Subject: Remove application/program Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, How do I remove a program that I no longer needed? Is it just use "rmdir" to delete the whole directory? Would it causes other programs that may need the share files? -- Thanks, Chimon Yeung To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 10:19:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f134.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0116E37B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from t403403@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:19:19 -0700 Received: from 12.68.199.120 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:19:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [12.68.199.120] From: "Terry Witherspoon" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Avoiding denial of service. Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:19:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Apr 2001 17:19:19.0835 (UTC) FILETIME=[89C2EEB0:01C0C762] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've built several name servers running BIND 8.2.3. I allow SSL connections to port 800 on each where I'm running a web server. I'd like to avoid denial of service on the name servers. There are already DOS attacks in neighboring networks but as yet they've not hit me. I have been portscanned a couple of times. I've a Cisco router with an access list for port 800. What knobs can I change to reduce impact of DOS? I do not manage the Cisco but the network guy would implement any acl I ask for. SHould I do something there too? These are important servers for maybe 10,000 users. Thanks for any advice , TW _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 10:24:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.a2000.nl (phoenix.a2000.nl [62.108.1.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2422237B440 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:24:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bliekp@cable.a2000.nl) Received: from node1475b.a2000.nl ([24.132.71.91] helo=sisters.cable.a2000.nl) by smtp1.a2000.nl with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #4) id 14pZDG-00050a-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:24:26 +0200 Message-Id: <5.1.0.12.0.20010417192037.00a027c0@192.168.2.1> X-Sender: bliekp@192.168.2.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.0.12 (Beta) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:24:25 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Pim Bliek Subject: sendmail / SMTP question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Maybe a newbie question, but I really do not understand one little bit of sendmail.... I've got the following problem when running fetchmail as a normal user from my system. It tries to retrieve the email through POP3 from my ISP. As far as I'm aware fetchmail tries to open an SMTP connection to localhost to deliver it to the users mailbox.... Here's the output: %fetchmail -a 160 messages for at (644207 octets). reading message 1 of 160 (2442 octets) .fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed fetchmail: can't raise the listener; falling back to $sendmail T.bliekp: not found fetchmail: MDA exited abnormally or returned nonzero status not flushed fetchmail: socket error while fetching from fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET) Anyone able to give me a nice hint on this? What am I doing wrong? O, some vital info maybe: I'm running 4.3 Stable, did a succesfull cvsup and make world etc. yesterday... Maybe I missed something while merging configfiles??? Best regards, Pim Bliek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 10:33:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F14737B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:33:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f3HHX6Y13047; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:33:06 +0200 (CEST) To: Stijn Hoop Subject: Re: AGP module ? Message-ID: <987528786.3adc7e52a6e8d@webmail.neomedia.it> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:33:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <987448873.3adb46297fd9a@webmail.neomedia.it> <20010417085324.C72128@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> In-Reply-To: <20010417085324.C72128@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. X-Originating-IP: 62.98.160.223 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scrive Stijn Hoop : > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:21:13PM +0200, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > > > You need to do this: > > > > > # cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 (1) > > > # make WITH_MATROX_GXX_DRIVER=yes install > > > # kldload agp > > > # kldload mga > > 1) Under -CURRENT, DRI no longer works. The modules are not built at > > all. > > That is so since april 10th. Search freebsd-cvs for the details. Hmm, a -CURRENT slice of mine (Yup, I'm multibooting FreeBSD OSes, inter alia) -- sources as of Mar 28, 2001 -- doesn't build DRI related modules. Never mind. -CURRENT has much more serious stuff boiling :-) > > 2) Under FreeBSD-4.3RC, sources as of April 12 (approximately) > midnight, > > kldloading agp and then mga makes the kernel complain about the > loading order > > (which is actually correct); subsequently launching KDE2 just causes > the > > system to reboot. > > Hmm, strange - I've device agp in my kernel, and I can kldload mga just > fine > after I've booted (I haven't tried unloading yet). Exactly. If (and only if) I load agp **at boot time** (ie by editing /boot/loader.conf), I can subsequently load/unload mga seamlessly. Needless to say, in this case, the related console messages are much like the ones displayed when agp and mga are **both** loaded at boot time (cf my previous message). If I kldload agp and *subsequently* mga, however, the system complains about the module loading order. But the order IS correct. In this case, trying to launch KDE2 just results in a reboot. In this situation (kldload agp, then mga), if I try kldunloading drm (a module loaded in turn by mga), I get a panic. Ok, that's just to complete the picture; it is probably not exactly sound to do that :-) I don't know whether all this is expexted behavio(u)r. -- Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 10:34:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spread.infobutter.com (spread.infobutter.com [207.76.173.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C94937B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:34:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjoseff@infobutter.com) Received: from spread.infobutter.com (spread.infobutter.com [207.76.173.55]) by spread.infobutter.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3HHeFM39230 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:40:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mjoseff@infobutter.com) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:40:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Joseff To: Subject: Kernel make failing Message-ID: X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG config, make depend work, but it chokes on "make". . . any clues: [spread:/usr/src/sys/compile/INFOBUTTER]make linking kernel asr.o: In function `ASR_failActiveCommands': asr.o(.text+0x6bb): undefined reference to `xpt_done' asr.o: In function `asr_timeout': asr.o(.text+0xbc7): undefined reference to `xpt_path_sim' asr.o: In function `ASR_init_message': asr.o(.text+0x1229): undefined reference to `xpt_path_sim' asr.o: In function `asr_attach': asr.o(.text+0x2232): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' asr.o(.text+0x225a): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' asr.o(.text+0x227b): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' asr.o(.text+0x228c): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' asr.o(.text+0x22bb): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' asr.o(.text+0x22ce): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' asr.o(.text+0x22d8): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' asr.o(.text+0x22f9): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' asr.o(.text+0x231e): undefined reference to `xpt_action' asr.o: In function `asr_action': asr.o(.text+0x243f): undefined reference to `xpt_path_sim' asr.o(.text+0x262a): undefined reference to `xpt_done' asr.o(.text+0x2639): undefined reference to `xpt_done' asr.o: In function `asr_intr': asr.o(.text+0x285d): undefined reference to `xpt_done' asr.o: In function `ASR_queue_i': asr.o(.text+0x2f96): undefined reference to `xpt_path_sim' dpt_scsi.o: In function `dptexecuteccb': dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x71f): undefined reference to `xpt_freeze_devq' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x7a4): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x8ec): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0xa10): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o: In function `dpt_action': dpt_scsi.o(.text+0xa47): undefined reference to `xpt_print_path' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0xb70): undefined reference to `xpt_freeze_simq' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0xd86): undefined reference to `xpt_freeze_simq' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0xf8b): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0xf9d): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o: In function `dpt_attach': dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x176d): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x179f): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x17b5): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1800): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1817): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1841): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' dpt_scsi.o: In function `dpt_intr': dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1b91): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o: In function `dptprocesserror': dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1d05): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o: In function `dpttimeout': dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1d2a): undefined reference to `xpt_print_path' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1d54): undefined reference to `xpt_print_path' mly_cam.o: In function `mly_cam_attach': mly_cam.o(.text+0x42): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' mly_cam.o(.text+0x5d): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' mly_cam.o(.text+0xce): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' mly_cam.o(.text+0x132): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' mly_cam.o(.text+0x174): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' mly_cam.o: In function `mly_cam_detach': mly_cam.o(.text+0x1e0): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' mly_cam.o(.text+0x1f4): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' mly_cam.o: In function `mly_cam_action': mly_cam.o(.text+0x4d9): undefined reference to `xpt_done' mly_cam.o: In function `mly_cam_complete': mly_cam.o(.text+0x8b9): undefined reference to `xpt_done' mly_cam.o: In function `mly_find_periph': mly_cam.o(.text+0x8f7): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' mly_cam.o(.text+0x909): undefined reference to `cam_periph_find' mly_cam.o(.text+0x913): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/INFOBUTTER. -- Matthew Joseff www.infobutter.com mjoseff@infobutter.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 10:47:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F07137B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:47:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA36666 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:46:57 -0400 (EDT) From: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ARGH! Stupid LPD error... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want to strangle LPD. Something is jacked and I have no clue what. I have never seen this error before. -rw------- 1 root wheel 607394 Apr 9 11:36 /tmp/aps_testout.IrixPc eval: cannot create /dev/lpt0: error 16 Mon Apr 9 11:53:14 CDT 2001 ljet4 600x600 default WTF is cannot create /dev/lpt0 supposed to mean? It's already there. The output is from apsfilter but I do not believe it has anything to do with apsfilter. open-systems# ls -la /dev/lpt0 crw------- 1 root wheel 16, 0 Mar 30 17:53 /dev/lpt0 open-systems# uname -a FreeBSD open-systems.net 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Mon Apr 2 12:50:50 CDT 2001 chris@open-systems.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/SECURE i386 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer One odd thing I noted is that when LPD starts it created two LPD's. I dont know why. So I tried killing one of them. Still get the same error. Does anyone know what that error means and how to fix it? ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! ICQ: 20016186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 11:36:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from akira.lanfear.com (akira.lanfear.com [208.12.11.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B4B37B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:36:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlist@lanfear.com) Received: from sapporo.lanfear.com (h-64-105-36-216.snvacaid.covad.net [64.105.36.216]) by akira.lanfear.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA06378; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlist@lanfear.com) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:36:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc W Message-Id: <200104171836.LAA06378@akira.lanfear.com> To: Kris Kennaway , Kyle Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Kiltdown 0.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ah, but the question is: will FreeBSD work with the new DUAL AMD motherboards coming out, or does the logic on those require kernel tweaking? marc. Marc W, San Francisco, CA Kiltdown -- a free email client for X www.kiltdown.org -- it's what's underneath that counts. > ----------------------------- > From: Kris Kennaway > To: Kyle > Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD > Sent: 04/16/01 23:24> > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:17:58PM -0700, Kyle wrote: > > I read that FreeBSD is aimed more at Intel CPUs, and I wonder if I made the right decision in the first place. Does AMD work fine with FreeBSD? Thanks. > > Of course :-) > > Kris > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 11:38:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600B637B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:38:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8FA3266B38; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:38:08 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Marc W Cc: Kris Kennaway , Kyle , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010417113808.A125@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200104171836.LAA06378@akira.lanfear.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104171836.LAA06378@akira.lanfear.com>; from mwlist@lanfear.com on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:36:06AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:36:06AM -0700, Marc W wrote: >=20 > ah, but the question is: will FreeBSD work with the new DUAL AMD > motherboards coming out, or does the logic on those require kernel > tweaking? It may require some tweaking; I don't think anyone's seen an SMP AMD mobo yet. Kris --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63I2QWry0BWjoQKURAnVuAJ9MAXNYW6uY16O9lf7bLn7a8QoPDACgm/Mk sQw6OvU5Nz2NE6lq28M4Wfc= =yjXM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 11:41:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f78.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD6337B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:41:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd_mike@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:41:35 -0700 Received: from 206.196.56.237 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:41:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [206.196.56.237] From: "Mike Dorin" To: tedm@toybox.placo.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Lockup problem continues...was memory tools Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:41:35 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Apr 2001 18:41:35.0957 (UTC) FILETIME=[07EB6050:01C0C76E] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted, Thanks for your suggestion. I did just that. I removed half the chips, got two huge builds going..watched it lock up. Swapped the memory and did it again. Since the machine just locks up...it does not panic..there are no strings or error messages, is there any way to point a fingure at the problem? Thanks, -Mike >From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" >To: "Mike Dorin" , >Subject: RE: Memory Tools for FreeBSD? >Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:59:00 -0700 > >I've found that there's only one way to really know if your >memory is up to snuff - put it into a SIMM/DIMM tester. >Even then, all that will do is tell you that the memory >meets it's own specs - it won't tell you if the memory is >actually compatible with the system that you put it in. > >Failing that, what your doing (attempting to compile >programs) is a much better test than most of those >so-called "pc testing" programs like Checkit and so on. >I've seen plenty of systems that passed memory tests >but broke on FreeBSD. OS/2 is also a very good memory >tester - if you can't boot an OS/2 bootable floppy without >it trapping, then bad ram is definitely indicated. > >What most people do when suspecting bad ram is to take half >the chips out, retry the thing that caused it to crash, then >see if the problem is still there. If it is, then swap out those >chips with the half that you first took out and retry again >and see if the problem goes away. > >Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com >Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide >Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Dorin > >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 2:30 PM > >To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >Subject: Memory Tools for FreeBSD? > > > > > >My new freebsd server crashes when I try to build things like ssh. > >I suspect it is a memory problem. Are there any tools that could > >help me exercise things like memory to be sure? > >-Mike > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 11:55:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from apolo.ccuec.unicamp.br (apolo.ccuec.unicamp.br [143.106.80.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4F837B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:55:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sandra@ccuec.unicamp.br) Received: by apolo.ccuec.unicamp.br (Postfix, from userid 101) id D399D1F227E; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:55:21 -0300 (BRT) Received: from ccuec.unicamp.br (bern.ccuec.unicamp.br [143.106.30.120]) by apolo.ccuec.unicamp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C50418 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:55:15 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <3ADCA092.F5292B97@ccuec.unicamp.br> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:59:14 -0400 From: Sandra Regina Organization: Unicamp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: radiusclient Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anybody there know about radiusclient? How do I substitute /bin/login by /usr/local/sbin/radlogin? Thanks in advance. Sandra To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 12: 1:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from suntana.fh-konstanz.de (suntana.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.9.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C581C37B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:01:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) Received: from vvl10 (vvl10.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.112.110]) by suntana.fh-konstanz.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA18995; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:00:41 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000a01c0c771$b82fb4e0$6e70258d@vvl10.fh-konstanz.de> From: "Vahe Khachikyan" To: "Joe Mahma" Cc: "FreeBSD-questions" Subject: Re: natd help! Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:08:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok let's go step by step. I have done this thousand times with plip interface with normal network interface --------------- Lets take a lok at some firewall startup script ------------------------ # Define the firewall command (as in /etc/rc.firewall) for easy # reference. Helps to make it easier to read. fwcmd="/sbin/ipfw -f -q" # Force a flushing of the current rules before we reload. $fwcmd flush $fwcmd add 500 divert natd all from any to My.Very.Real.IP $fwcmd add 600 divert natd all from 10.0.0.3 to any $fwcmd add 3000 pass all from any to any # Deny all the rest. $fwcmd add 65435 deny log ip from any to any ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------- A part from /etc/rc.conf which is responcible for natd --------------------------------------- natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="My.Very.Real.IP" natd_flags="-config /etc/natd.conf" # Additional flags for natd. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- /etc/natd.conf ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- alias_address My.Very.Real.IP redirect_address 10.0.0.3 My.Very.Real.IP same_ports yes use_sockets yes unregistered_only yes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- for the experiment consider running ipfw and natd not at the startup I mean directly start natd from command line like 'natd -config /etc/natd.conf' after running from console the firewalls startup scrpt. Here My.Very.Real.IP is the real IP adress that your modem interface get after connection. 10.0.0.3 is a the network address of the other (to simplify the things) box which you want route. BTW before starting and testing be sure to test if your internal network is OK I.e from natd box ping 10.0.0.3 should work without any firewall or natd running. Regards -- Vahe --- -----Original Message----- From: Joe Mahma To: vahe@fh-konstanz.de Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:26 PM Subject: Re: natd help! >Thanks, > >I've looked that over a hundred times, and I have done all those things. >>From this article it seems very easy, but somehow it's not working, not even >with the firewall type set to open! I'm trying right now to break down >everything that's on the box and isolate one thing at a time. It does nat, >fw, named, etc etc > >>From: "Vahe Khachikyan" >>To: "Joe Mahma" >>Subject: Re: natd help! >>Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:33:36 +0100 >> >>Take a look at >>http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/dialup-firewall/index.html >> >>Regards >>-- >>Vahe >>--- >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joe Mahma >> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:47 AM >> Subject: natd help! >> >> >> I'm trying to get a simple firewall/local-caching nameserver/natd box >>running so that I can connect to the internet from an internal network out >>through the BSD box to the internet. >> >> This is harder than it sounds, especially to me and I wonder if anyone >>can help out. I've bashed my head against the wall long enough and it's >>starting to hurt! >> >> Right now all I can to is to get the boxes talking through the Apache >>Proxy server that I built, but other tcp connections can;t be pushed >>through. >> >> Does anyone have a comprehensive set of firewall rules they can send >>that I can look over to see what I may be able to use in my situation? I >>have looked, but haven't been able to find all that I need to get it >>working right. >> >> Regards, >> >> -Joe > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 12: 9: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rm-rstar.sfu.ca (rm-rstar.sfu.ca [142.58.120.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5CC37B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:08:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (tmchow@fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by rm-rstar.sfu.ca (8.10.1/8.10.1/SFU-5.0H) with ESMTP id f3HJ8pl05635; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFU-5.0C) with ESMTP id MAA06353; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:08:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fraser.sfu.ca: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:08:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow To: "Michael O'Henly" Cc: , Cecilia Hamburger Subject: Re: XFree86-4 / 3.3.6 impossible to configure In-Reply-To: <01041709172900.23087@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I used xf86config and I'm still having problems with my resolution adn refresh rates. I even entered the correct horizontal and vertical sync ranges but my resolution is garbled at 800x600 and only runs visibly at 1024x768.. a bit of a problem since I'm using a 15" monitor. With a resolution that high (and still not using the best refresh rate) I feel that I'm on the brink of seizures. On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Michael O'Henly wrote: > Hi... > > I also had trouble with the new configuration utility in XFree86-4.0.3 and > never did get it working properly. (It started up at a miniscule resolution > and did not seem able to save the values I entered.) So I gritted my teeth > and used "xf86config" at the command line. > > Quite honestly, xf86config is not that difficult to use provided you know a > bit about your display card and monitor. In particular, you should check the > monitor's documentation for horizontal and vertical scan rates. They may be > noted as a range (mine were 30-95Hz and 50-180Hz). You should also know how > much video RAM your display adapter has. I think the only thing you can't do > with xf86config is geometry, size, and position adjustments. > > M. > > On Tuesday 17 April 2001 08:02, Cecilia Hamburger wrote: > > > Hi, I'm using freebsd-4.3-rc on a dual pentium > > III-550, with 512 mb of ram, cirrus logic gd5480 and a > > non-interlaced 14' hansol mazellan monitor. > > I installed Xfree86-4, from ports, but, i want to able > > to configure, because, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY, xfree86 > > team changed XF86Setup (excellent tool) to XFree86 > > -configure, and it doesnt work...so, it's imposible to > > configure the server (the other tool, xf86config, dont > > work neither). > > -- > Michael O'Henly > TENZO Design > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 12:11:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spread.infobutter.com (spread.infobutter.com [207.76.173.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F279A37B53A for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:11:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjoseff@infobutter.com) Received: from spread.infobutter.com (spread.infobutter.com [207.76.173.55]) by spread.infobutter.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3HJEfD00589 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:14:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mjoseff@infobutter.com) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:14:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Joseff To: Subject: Re: radiusclient In-Reply-To: <3ADCA092.F5292B97@ccuec.unicamp.br> Message-ID: X-OS: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mv /bin/login /bin/login.OLD ln -fs /usr/local/sbin/radlogin /bin/login On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Sandra Regina wrote: }Does anybody there know about radiusclient? } } How do I substitute /bin/login by /usr/local/sbin/radlogin? } }Thanks in advance. } }Sandra } } }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org }with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message } -- Matthew Joseff www.infobutter.com mjoseff@infobutter.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 12:19:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.prokk.net (smtp.prokk.net [194.42.198.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F1C37B443 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@prokk.net) Received: from user4.prokk.net (user4.prokk.net [194.42.198.104]) by smtp.prokk.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3HJJEI38805 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:19:15 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:20:00 +0300 From: green X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49e) Reply-To: green Organization: home X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <866693057.20010417222000@prokk.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: hi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi freebsd-questions ! hi i have a freebsd machine on my local network... the i use telnet, to login, it takes up to 2 minutes to login !!! why ? and then i connect from freebsd to my provider, and after this using telnet to login to the machine - it's going without delay plz help -------------- green@prokk.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 12:22:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682FA37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:22:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 05BDD66B38; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:22:29 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Tony Wells Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CA-2001-07 patch? Message-ID: <20010417122229.A11224@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3AD607CC.CC1913BE@journalstar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AD607CC.CC1913BE@journalstar.com>; from awells@journalstar.com on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 02:53:48PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 02:53:48PM -0500, Tony Wells wrote: > I was wondering if a patch had been released yet for the ftpd file > glob'ing exploit. I searched the archives, and looked at the security > advisories, but haven't found anything. The advisory went out just now. There was a minor remaining problem allowing users with an account to DoS the server which prevented us from sending it out yesterday; the rest of the patches were in place some time ago. Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63Jf1Wry0BWjoQKURAu4gAKCHVC6BTKXp4YXj+Z5agW/OWonh+ACfcUNY aU56gM2T44FvsliOuqwRfm8= =Wzs4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 12:22:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D456037B446 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14pb3u-000DjX-00; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:22:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:22:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: green Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hi In-Reply-To: <866693057.20010417222000@prokk.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That's because it it trying to do a DNS lookup on the IP address you are connecting from, and it waits until it fails. If set up BIND on your box, and point the nameserver argument in /etc/resolv.conf to the internal ip address of your box, set up your reverse IP and other IP, set it up as a caching DNS server, you should be good to go. On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, green wrote: > hi freebsd-questions ! > > hi > > i have a freebsd machine on my local network... > the i use telnet, to login, it takes up to 2 minutes to login !!! > why ? > > and then i connect from freebsd to my provider, and after this using > telnet to login to the machine - it's going without delay > > plz help > > > -------------- > green@prokk.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 12:25:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C5837B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:25:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 6187755407; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C8151610; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:19:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Mike Dorin Cc: , Subject: Re: Lockup problem continues...was memory tools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-17, Mike Dorin scribbled: # Thanks for your suggestion. I did just that. I removed half the # chips, got two huge builds going..watched it lock up. Swapped # the memory and did it again. # # Since the machine just locks up...it does not panic..there # are no strings or error messages, is there any # way to point a fingure at the problem? Lock-ups can also be caused by the processor (and/or the chipset) overheating. What kind of processor, chipset and motherboard are you using? Is the case have enough airflow and how hot (to the touch) does the heatsink on the processor get? -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 12:30:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web11307.mail.yahoo.com (web11307.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6064B37B449 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:30:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ddavid_3@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010417193056.62923.qmail@web11307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.138.192.229] by web11307.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:30:56 EDT Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:30:56 -0400 (EDT) From: David David Reply-To: ddavid@ican.net Subject: Re: XFree86-4 /3.3.6 imposible to configure To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: tmchow@sfu.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG have you tried useing "XFree86 -configure" as specified in man(1) XFree86 ( as root ) this write's out a base XF86Config.new file in /root where you can then go in an edit for any changes you need to make. I find this much easier and faster than doing xf86config. David _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 12:38: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.pace.edu (ntutil.pace.edu [205.232.111.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638CC37B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:37:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js43064n@stmail.pace.edu) Received: from stmail.pace.edu (205.232.111.7:3120) by smtp.pace.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.A889721A@smtp.pace.edu>; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:37:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:37:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200104171537.AA1657537042@stmail.pace.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Jonathan Slivko" Reply-To: To: , "Terry Witherspoon" Subject: Re: Avoiding denial of service. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry, I know this doesn't answer the question directly, but I will pass this little piece of knowledge from my own systems: I have a system that is constantly being DoS'd. But, what I do to combat those DoS' is I have 2 IP's, each from different providers, one of which is hidden which no one knows about. So, if you are DoS'ed, you can log in on the "secret" IP and then bring down the other interface and then sandbag the IP. However, as far as port 800 goes, you might try and talk to your ISP into giving you some kind of active firewalling from their network, just in case that you do get attacked. I hope this helps. -- Jonathan M. Slivko ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Terry Witherspoon" Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:19:19 -0500 > >Hi, > >I've built several name servers running BIND 8.2.3. >I allow SSL connections to port 800 on each where I'm >running a web server. I'd like to avoid denial of >service on the name servers. There are already >DOS attacks in neighboring networks but as yet they've >not hit me. I have been portscanned a couple of times. >I've a Cisco router with an access list for port 800. >What knobs can I change to reduce impact of DOS? I do >not manage the Cisco but the network guy would implement >any acl I ask for. SHould I do something there too? These >are important servers for maybe 10,000 users. > >Thanks for any advice , TW > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- ~~~~ Jonathan M. Slivko Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Services Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network ~~~~ -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 12:51: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f147.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585D237B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:51:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd_mike@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:51:03 -0700 Received: from 206.196.56.237 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:51:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [206.196.56.237] From: "Mike Dorin" To: lplist@closedsrc.org Cc: tedm@toybox.placo.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lockup problem continues...was memory tools Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:51:02 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Apr 2001 19:51:03.0053 (UTC) FILETIME=[BBB3C3D0:01C0C777] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I thought that too. Except that it will for days without a problem if you don't do anything...except let it sit. -Mike >From: Linh Pham >To: Mike Dorin >CC: , >Subject: Re: Lockup problem continues...was memory tools >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:19:57 -0700 (PDT) > >On 2001-04-17, Mike Dorin scribbled: > ># Thanks for your suggestion. I did just that. I removed half the ># chips, got two huge builds going..watched it lock up. Swapped ># the memory and did it again. ># ># Since the machine just locks up...it does not panic..there ># are no strings or error messages, is there any ># way to point a fingure at the problem? > >Lock-ups can also be caused by the processor (and/or the chipset) >overheating. What kind of processor, chipset and motherboard are you >using? Is the case have enough airflow and how hot (to the touch) does >the heatsink on the processor get? > >-- >Linh Pham >[lplist@closedsrc.org] > >// 404b - Brain not found > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 12:55: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1254037B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:55:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 5450555407; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429CB51610; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:49:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Mike Dorin Cc: , Subject: Re: Lockup problem continues...was memory tools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-17, Mike Dorin scribbled: # I thought that too. Except that it will for days without a problem # if you don't do anything...except let it sit. When FreeBSD is idle, it sends an HLT instruction to the processor (except if you are using a multi-proc computer) to HALT or temporarily power down portions of the CPU to keep it cool and keeps the power consumption down. That is why the machine can be stable for a long time if you don't do anything taxing on it. Once you do a processor intensive process (like building a kernel or something like XFree86, [X]Emacs, make world, etc., the OS will not send [nearly as many] HLT instructions to the processor, so the processor is grinding away without a chance to cool off. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 13:22:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f92.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F81437B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:22:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd_mike@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:22:35 -0700 Received: from 206.196.56.237 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:22:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [206.196.56.237] From: "Mike Dorin" To: lplist@closedsrc.org Cc: tedm@toybox.placo.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lockup problem continues...more info Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:22:35 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Apr 2001 20:22:35.0764 (UTC) FILETIME=[23D88B40:01C0C77C] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems to like to lockup mostly while I am building ssh_keygen.c. Also this time I got a panic! current process = 23319 (cc1) interrupt mask = none trap = 12 panic: page fault Any ideas? Thanks, Mike >From: Linh Pham >To: Mike Dorin >CC: , >Subject: Re: Lockup problem continues...was memory tools >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:49:47 -0700 (PDT) > >On 2001-04-17, Mike Dorin scribbled: > ># I thought that too. Except that it will for days without a problem ># if you don't do anything...except let it sit. > >When FreeBSD is idle, it sends an HLT instruction to the processor >(except if you are using a multi-proc computer) to HALT or temporarily >power down portions of the CPU to keep it cool and keeps the power >consumption down. > >That is why the machine can be stable for a long time if you don't do >anything taxing on it. Once you do a processor intensive process (like >building a kernel or something like XFree86, [X]Emacs, make world, etc., >the OS will not send [nearly as many] HLT instructions to the processor, >so the processor is grinding away without a chance to cool off. > >-- >Linh Pham >[lplist@closedsrc.org] > >// 404b - Brain not found > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 13:37:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from istar.ca (d141-119-162.home.cgocable.net [24.141.119.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8586137B446 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:37:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) Received: (from genisis@localhost) by istar.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3HKev722322; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:40:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from genisis) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:40:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru To: Bill Moran Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: freebsd in dos extended ? In-Reply-To: <3ADB139B.9679212@iowna.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Bill, Lots of interesting info concerning partitions and BIOS here: http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/partitions/index.html and even more detailed info in this article; don't let the MS word scare you off ;) http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q140/4/18.asp Dru On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Bill Moran wrote: > faisal wrote: > > > i wish they didnt have this limit of 4 primary partition on a disk ... :-( > > Is that a M$ limit or a pc-bios limit? > > -Bill > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 13:51:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09CA37B43E for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:51:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from banksw@fang.cs.sunyit.edu) Received: from localhost (banksw@localhost) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27431 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:51:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from banksw@fang.cs.sunyit.edu) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:51:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Wyatt Banks To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: dns trouble, please help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I set up a DNS server, and it works fine, but my reverse lookup seems to be set incorrectly. When I nslookup anything, I get this: Server: mycomputer.cs.sunyit.edu.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa when it should read: Server: mycomputer.cs.sunyit.edu I read and re-read the DNS section of Greg Lehey's book (good book by the way) and everything works fine, but I can't seem to find what I did wrong. Thank you in advance for any help banksw@sunyit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 13:54: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BB937B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:53:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3HKruo06818; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:53:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:53:56 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Wyatt Banks Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dns trouble, please help Message-ID: <20010417155356.A1541@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: ; from "Wyatt Banks" on Tue Apr 17 16:51:21 GMT 2001 X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Apr 17), Wyatt Banks said: > I set up a DNS server, and it works fine, but my reverse lookup seems to > be set incorrectly. When I nslookup anything, I get this: > > Server: mycomputer.cs.sunyit.edu.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa > > when it should read: > > Server: mycomputer.cs.sunyit.edu Put a trailing dot at the end of your PTR lines in your zonefile: 1 PTR mycomputer.cs.sunyit.edu. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 13:54:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D015137B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:54:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id D524F55407; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54F151610; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:49:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Wyatt Banks Cc: Subject: Re: dns trouble, please help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-17, Wyatt Banks scribbled: # Server: mycomputer.cs.sunyit.edu.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa # # when it should read: # # Server: mycomputer.cs.sunyit.edu Make sure that you have a trailing dot after any fully qualified domain names in the map files. Like the computer name would be: mycomputer.cs.sunyit.edu. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 13:55:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from anime.net (anime.net [63.172.78.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC4437B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugene@anime.net) Received: (from eugene@localhost) by anime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22983 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:55:15 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:55:15 -0700 From: Eugene Lee To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dns trouble, please help Message-ID: <20010417135515.G18530@anime.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from banksw@fang.cs.sunyit.edu on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 04:51:21PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 04:51:21PM -0400, Wyatt Banks wrote: : : I set up a DNS server, and it works fine, but my reverse lookup seems to : be set incorrectly. When I nslookup anything, I get this: : : Server: mycomputer.cs.sunyit.edu.0.168.192.in-addr.arpa : : when it should read: : : Server: mycomputer.cs.sunyit.edu You're missing a trailing period for your hostname somewhere, i.e. it needs to read "mycomputer.cs.synyit.edu." (note the trailing period) in your zone file. -- Eugene Lee eugene@anime.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 13:59:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3A237B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:59:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f3HKwp106046; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:58:51 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:58:51 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: scanner@jurai.net Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARGH! Stupid LPD error... Message-ID: <20010418085851.A4712@itouchnz.itouch> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from scanner@jurai.net on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 01:46:57PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 01:46:57PM -0400, scanner@jurai.net wrote: > > I want to strangle LPD. Something is jacked and I have no clue what. I > have never seen this error before. > > -rw------- 1 root wheel 607394 Apr 9 11:36 /tmp/aps_testout.IrixPc > eval: cannot create /dev/lpt0: error 16 > Mon Apr 9 11:53:14 CDT 2001 > ljet4 600x600 default > > WTF is cannot create /dev/lpt0 supposed to mean? It's already there. > The output is from apsfilter but I do not believe it has anything to do > with apsfilter. Check the output of dmesg, is your /dev/lpt0 device being detected correctly? When something complains that it "cannot create /dev/lpt0", it's attempting to create the "lpt0" file in /dev; usually due to a shell script's "someprogram > /dev/lpt0". This could possibly be due to permission problems.. What user is your lpd daemon running as? > One odd thing I noted is that when LPD starts it created two LPD's. I dont > know why. So I tried killing one of them. Still get the same error. > Does anyone know what that error means and how to fix it? When lpd attempts to print a job, it spawns off a child to handle it, that's why you see multiple lpd processes. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything's under control, you're going too slow" - Mario Andretti To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 14: 4:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DBB37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:04:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA42275; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:04:02 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Jonathan Chen Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARGH! Stupid LPD error... In-Reply-To: <20010418085851.A4712@itouchnz.itouch> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Jonathan Chen wrote: > Check the output of dmesg, is your /dev/lpt0 device being detected > correctly? ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 flags 0x8 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP-only) in ECP mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Looks good to me. > When something complains that it "cannot create /dev/lpt0", it's attempting > to create the "lpt0" file in /dev; usually due to a shell script's > "someprogram > /dev/lpt0". This could possibly be due to permission > problems.. What user is your lpd daemon running as? That is what I dont get: open-systems% ls -la /dev/lpt0 crw------- 1 root wheel 16, 0 Mar 30 17:53 /dev/lpt0 > When lpd attempts to print a job, it spawns off a child to handle it, > that's why you see multiple lpd processes. Makes sense. I just cant figure out WHY its refusing to print. I can't even cat file > /dev/lpt0. It times out. Something is jacked and I just cannot figure it out. ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! ICQ: 20016186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 14: 7:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBE537B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:07:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3HL7UV22066; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:07:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:07:30 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: scanner@jurai.net Cc: Jonathan Chen , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARGH! Stupid LPD error... Message-ID: <20010417160730.A20235@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20010418085851.A4712@itouchnz.itouch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: ; from "scanner@jurai.net" on Tue Apr 17 17:04:02 GMT 2001 X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Apr 17), scanner@jurai.net said: > Makes sense. I just cant figure out WHY its refusing to print. I > can't even cat file > /dev/lpt0. It times out. Something is jacked > and I just cannot figure it out. Is the printer offline maybe? Try running "lptcontrol -p" to set the printer device to polled mode. That has helped for me in the past. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 14:11:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from edwin.mounet.com (edwin.mounet.com [216.145.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6CE237B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:11:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hornback@wireco.net) Received: (qmail 8265 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 2001 21:07:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomcat) (216.145.67.16) by mounet.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 21:07:41 -0000 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:10:18 -0400 Message-ID: <00e901c0c782$ce486220$0e00000a@tomcat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: <20010417113808.A125@xor.obsecurity.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The new dual Athlon boards may require some kernel tweaks similar to = what you would do to on a SMP Alpha machine, since they are using the = same basic APIC architecture, from what I've heard. I may have some = info wrong, but that's what I would look to if you plan to do kernel = source level configuration for a dual Athlon. --- Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kris Kennaway > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:38 PM > To: Marc W > Cc: Kris Kennaway; Kyle; questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:36:06AM -0700, Marc W wrote: > >=20 > > ah, but the question is: will FreeBSD work with the new DUAL = AMD > > motherboards coming out, or does the logic on those require kernel > > tweaking? >=20 > It may require some tweaking; I don't think anyone's seen an SMP AMD > mobo yet. >=20 > Kris >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 14:13:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B7937B440 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:13:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3HLD9e20044 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:13:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3HLD8T20001 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:13:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.5.100] (may be forged)) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.3/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3HLCpB82873 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:12:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <028f01c0c783$4d685420$6405a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: RealTek 8029 pci.:device_probe_and_attach: ed0 attach returned 2 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:13:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f3HLD8T20001 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I try to add a second NIC to my gateway machine, running current.. (Will be getting ADSL may 10, may 15 my 24h flatrate ISDN changes to 8h flatrate, rest minute charge, talk about timing. So I have 23 days to get this fixed) The first card is a D-LINK 250 isa, it was ed0, but by changing device.hints it became ed1; it is working. The second card is a RealTek 8029 pci. I get the errormessage: device_probe_and_attach: ed0 attach returned 2 I've searched the archives and only found the advice to turn off pnp in the bios. However, my old dec bios does not have that option, neither do I have PNPBIOS in my kernel config (I think that option is depreciated btw) The machine does not have ide-disks, so int15 is available. Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #9: Wed Apr 4 18:49:51 CEST 2001 root@gina.neland.dk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARNOLD Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 59973117 Hz CPU: Pentium/P5 (59.97-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x515 Stepping = 5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 117440512 (114688K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03eb000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 ncr0: port 0xd100-0xd1ff mem 0x20000000-0x200000ff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci0 isab0: at device 2.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 6.0 (no driver attached) ed0: irq 15 at device 7.0 on pci0 device_probe_and_attach: ed0 attach returned 2 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 ed1 at port 0x340-0x35f iomem 0xd8000 irq 10 on isa0 ed1: address 00:80:c8:18:9c:c2, type NE2000 (16 bit) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ D-LINK 250 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc1: at port 0x278-0x27f irq 5 on isa0 ppc1: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip1: on ppbus1 lpt1: on ppbus1 lpt1: Interrupt-driven port ppi1: on ppbus1 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16450 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 isic0: at port 0x200-0x201,0x202-0x203 irq 9 on isa0 isic0: passive stack unit 0 i4btrc: 2 ISDN trace device(s) attached i4bing: 2 i4b NetGraph ISDN B-channel device(s) attached i4btel: 2 ISDN telephony interface device(s) attached i4bisppp: 4 ISDN SyncPPP device(s) attached (VJ header compression) i4b: ISDN call control device attached i4brbch: 2 raw B channel access device(s) attached i4bipr: 2 IP over raw HDLC ISDN device(s) attached (VJ header compression) i4bctl: ISDN system control port attached Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a cd0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers cd0: cd present [234900 x 2048 byte records] da1 at ncr0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4101MB (8399520 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) da3 at ncr0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da3: 3.300MB/s transfers da3: 231MB (474602 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 231C) da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) da2 at ncr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da2: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C) Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 14:13:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0305237B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:13:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA42528; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:13:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:13:36 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Dan Nelson Cc: Jonathan Chen , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARGH! Stupid LPD error... In-Reply-To: <20010417160730.A20235@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is the printer offline maybe? Try running "lptcontrol -p" to set the > printer device to polled mode. That has helped for me in the past. GRRR. open-systems# lptcontrol -p lptcontrol: open: Device busy Something is holding a lock on that device. That is all I can think of. open-systems# fstat | grep lpt open-systems# ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! ICQ: 20016186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 14:19:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECB837B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:19:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f3HLIPW07465; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:18:25 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:18:24 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: scanner@jurai.net Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARGH! Stupid LPD error... Message-ID: <20010418091824.B4712@itouchnz.itouch> References: <20010417160730.A20235@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from scanner@jurai.net on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 05:13:36PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 05:13:36PM -0400, scanner@jurai.net wrote: > > > > Is the printer offline maybe? Try running "lptcontrol -p" to set the > > printer device to polled mode. That has helped for me in the past. > > GRRR. open-systems# lptcontrol -p > lptcontrol: open: Device busy Um. Make sure the cables and connections are seated firmly? The printer should be holding one of the pins down to indicate online mode, otherwise /dev/lpt0 will report device dead/offline; ie exactly what you're seeing. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- char *p="char *p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 14:32:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC74137B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:32:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scanner@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (scanner@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA43396; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:32:35 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Jonathan Chen Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARGH! Stupid LPD error... In-Reply-To: <20010418091824.B4712@itouchnz.itouch> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Um. Make sure the cables and connections are seated firmly? The printer > should be holding one of the pins down to indicate online mode, otherwise > /dev/lpt0 will report device dead/offline; ie exactly what you're > seeing. BINGO! We have a winner. I went and screwed the cable into the printer port as tight as I could. And unplugged the power cord from the printer and back in again. I knew it was something stupid, just couldnt figure out what. Thanks Jonathan! Thanks Dan! I appreciate it. ============================================================================= -Chris Watson (316) 326-3862 | FreeBSD Consultant, FreeBSD Geek Work: scanner@jurai.net | Open Systems Inc., Wellington, Kansas Home: scanner@deceptively.shady.org | http://open-systems.net ============================================================================= WINDOWS: "Where do you want to go today?" LINUX: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" ============================================================================= irc.openprojects.net #FreeBSD -Join the revolution! ICQ: 20016186 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 14:46:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net [24.69.46.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03E737B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (localhost.gv.shawcable.net [127.0.0.1]) by h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3HLn6124256 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:49:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Michael O'Henly" Reply-To: michael@tenzo.com Organization: TENZO Design To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Followup: ipfw vs. domestic tranquility... Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:49:06 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01041619081002.21220@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> In-Reply-To: <01041619081002.21220@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041714490601.23795@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is peace in the valley once again. Yesterday I was confused. But in the last 24 hours I've learned enough about firewalls to get into REAL trouble! Thanks to the several people who took the time to send examples of working configurations. You were a great help. M. -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 14:53:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.akalink.com (akalink.com [64.23.81.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F8B737B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:53:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfortin@akalink.com) Received: (qmail 55331 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 20:52:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gmoto) (64.23.81.14) by akalink.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 20:52:05 -0000 Message-ID: <006501c0c788$f46f7a00$0200320a@gmoto> From: "Jonathan Fortin" To: Subject: VFS system control options Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:54:19 -0400 Organization: Akalink MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0062_01C0C767.6D09EDA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C0C767.6D09EDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,=20 Could someone lighten me up on the following options, I have not found = any documents explaining these interesting options.I would like to know the pros and cons of the following. Thank = you vfs.write_behind vm.pageout_algorithm vfs.vmiodirenable ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C0C767.6D09EDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hello,
 
Could someone lighten me up on the = following=20 options, I have not found any documents explaining these=20 interesting
options.I would like to know the pros = and cons of=20 the following. Thank you
 
vfs.write_behind
vm.pageout_algorithm
vfs.vmiodirenable

------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C0C767.6D09EDA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15: 2:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2928737B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:02:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05189; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:01:57 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:01:57 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Marc W , Kyle , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20010417113808.A125@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:36:06AM -0700, Marc W wrote: > > > > ah, but the question is: will FreeBSD work with the new DUAL AMD > > motherboards coming out, or does the logic on those require kernel > > tweaking? > > It may require some tweaking; I don't think anyone's seen an SMP AMD > mobo yet. > > Kris The other question is, will the AMD Athlon be a whole lot faster than a equivelent Intel PIII? and what about P4 support? or is that really worst than a PIII and AMD in terms of performance? Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15: 3:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ecci.ucr.ac.cr (orion.ecci.ucr.ac.cr [163.178.104.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2DA37B43E for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:03:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from guille@orion.ecci.ucr.ac.cr) Received: from localhost (guille@localhost) by orion.ecci.ucr.ac.cr (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with ESMTP id e1C4ri330104 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:54:00 -0600 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:53:44 -0600 (CST) From: Guillermo Leandro To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Apache error! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi everybody! I'm in the middle of an web server installation and receive this log-error message everytime try to start the server: [crit] (42) Protocol not available: make_sock: for port 80, setsockopt: (SO_ACCEPTFILTER) Can anybody help me? Thanx anyway! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15: 6: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from snowowl.canadian.net (snowowl.canadian.net [216.123.178.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C3837B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:06:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doreen@canadian.net) Received: from iguana ([212.111.168.175]) by snowowl.canadian.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA507 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:06:00 -0400 Message-ID: <002301c0c78a$9c5c8fe0$afa86fd4@iguana> From: "Doreen Foster" To: Subject: Security: FTPD Glob issue compile fails Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:06:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0C769.14460300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0C769.14460300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, This machine is FreeBSD 3.4 on a pentium 450 after patch and compile i = get the following. What am I doing wrong? Can you direct this email to = someone who might help? /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c: In function `glob': /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: `GLOB_MAXPATH' undeclared = (first use this function) /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: (Each undeclared identifier is = reported only once /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: for each function it appears = in.) /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c: In function `globextend': /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:689: `GLOB_LIMIT' undeclared (first = use this function) *** Error code 1 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0C769.14460300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
This machine is FreeBSD 3.4 on a = pentium 450 after=20 patch and compile i get the following. What am I doing wrong? Can you = direct=20 this email to someone who might help?
 
/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c: = In function=20 `glob':
/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: `GLOB_MAXPATH' = undeclared=20 (first use this function)
/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: = (Each=20 undeclared identifier is reported only=20 once
/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: for each function it = appears=20 in.)
/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c: In function=20 `globextend':
/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:689: `GLOB_LIMIT'=20 undeclared (first use this function)
*** Error code=20 1
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0C769.14460300-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15: 6:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web611.mail.yahoo.com (web611.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 28A5637B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from g_mot@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010417220627.12297.qmail@web611.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.221.138.130] by web611.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:06:27 PDT Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:06:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jimot Purnomo Subject: users file system To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, how to make normal users does not able to see/copy any other normal user's files/directory ? Thank you, Jimmy - __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15: 7: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B5037B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:06:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 4F6B555407; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9EE51610; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:01:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Vincent Poy Cc: Kris Kennaway , Marc W , Kyle , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-17, Vincent Poy scribbled: # The other question is, will the AMD Athlon be a whole lot faster # than a equivelent Intel PIII? and what about P4 support? or is that # really worst than a PIII and AMD in terms of performance? Theoretically, a dual Athlon system would beat a dual Pentium III setup not only because it has a better FPU, more L1 cache, but also because it uses a 100/200Mhz or a 133/266Mhz DDR FSB. Also, a dual Pentium III uses a shared bus to connect to the northbridge whereas a dual Athlon would have two dedicated connections to the northbridge. This is where DDR memory would have more of an impact on performance than SDRAM->DDR on a single Athlon system. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15: 8:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8953C37B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:08:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 60ACC55407; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C7451610; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:03:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Jimot Purnomo Cc: Subject: Re: users file system In-Reply-To: <20010417220627.12297.qmail@web611.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-17, Jimot Purnomo scribbled: # Hi, # # how to make normal users does not able to see/copy any # other normal user's files/directory ? As root, do: chmod -R go-rwx users-folder while in /home (or ~/) -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15: 8:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEFB37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:08:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from LAKEADS@aol.com) Received: from LAKEADS@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id n.85.9c782b1 (15898) for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web51.aolmail.aol.com (web51.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.12]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.37) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:08:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:08:24 EDT From: LAKEADS@aol.com Subject: adaptec scsi controllers To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <85.9c782b1.280e18dd@aol.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Iam trying to figure out what u160 cards are supported by free bsd? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:11:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A7137B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05341; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:10:42 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:10:42 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Linh Pham Cc: Kris Kennaway , Marc W , Kyle , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-17, Vincent Poy scribbled: > > # The other question is, will the AMD Athlon be a whole lot faster > # than a equivelent Intel PIII? and what about P4 support? or is that > # really worst than a PIII and AMD in terms of performance? > > Theoretically, a dual Athlon system would beat a dual Pentium III setup > not only because it has a better FPU, more L1 cache, but also because it > uses a 100/200Mhz or a 133/266Mhz DDR FSB. Also, a dual Pentium III uses > a shared bus to connect to the northbridge whereas a dual Athlon would > have two dedicated connections to the northbridge. This is where DDR > memory would have more of an impact on performance than SDRAM->DDR on a > single Athlon system. > > -- > Linh Pham > [lplist@closedsrc.org] > > // 404b - Brain not found Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:12:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sbcsmtp2.sbc.com (sbcsmtp2.sbc.com [209.184.203.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A53037B628 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:12:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jm3745@sbc.com) Received: from sbc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sbcsmtp2.sbc.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3HMAoN21536 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:10:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from msgdalhub02.sbc.com (msgdalhub02.sbc.com [155.179.128.121]) by sbcsmtp2.sbc.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3HMAkn21491 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:10:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: by msgdalhub02.sbc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2V7BJ5PA>; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:12:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: "MERCER, JAMES (SBCSI)" To: "'questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: NIC Help Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:11:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0C78B.5F03CCC0" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C78B.5F03CCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I have just installed a second NIC - Intel Pro 100+. I need to configure it but I do not know the commands. Normally, I would type boot -r from the OK prompt then configure IP address for the NIC. But with Free BSD I am not sure of the commands. I know I must modify the rc.conf file but what else? Thanks, P.S. I work primarily with SUN Solaris Servers. James Mercer Unix Systems Administrator Internet Data Center Webb Chapel, Suite 200 Dallas, Texas 75243 Office #: 972.620.5307 Cell #: 972.824.2847 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C78B.5F03CCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1"
I have just installed a second NIC - Intel Pro 100+.  I need to configure it but I do not know the commands.  Normally, I would type
boot -r from the OK prompt then configure IP address for the NIC.  But with Free BSD I am not sure of the commands.  I know I must modify the rc.conf file but what else?
 
Thanks,
 
P.S.  I work primarily with SUN Solaris Servers.
 
 
James Mercer
Unix Systems Administrator
Internet Data Center
Webb Chapel, Suite 200
Dallas, Texas 75243
Office #: 972.620.5307
Cell #:     972.824.2847
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C78B.5F03CCC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:14:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net (mtaout.telus.net [199.185.220.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5DF737B43E for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:14:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from CRX.sfu.ca ([209.53.63.29]) by priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with ESMTP id <20010417221413.VTWI2141.priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net@CRX.sfu.ca> for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:14:13 -0600 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010417151823.0252c918@mail.geektank.org> X-Sender: tmchow@popserver.sfu.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:19:52 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Trevin Chow Subject: ARP message filling my logs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm getting these messages from my ISP's 2 nameservers. The messages are constantly flooding my console terminal and I'd like the insanity to stop :) /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.1 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 on fxp0 /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 on fxp0 /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 to 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe on fxp0 Why the heck would the MAC address keep changing? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:15:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655EE37B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:15:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id EF94A55407; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9CB51610; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:10:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Vincent Poy Cc: Kris Kennaway , Marc W , Kyle , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-17, Vincent Poy scribbled: # Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? The AMD Athlon tends to beat the Pentium III in most cases (when matching Mhz... faster Athlons will fly by a Pentium III without a problem). The Pentium 4 tends to beat the Athlon in memory bandwidth intensive cases (ie: MPEG-4 encoding, some streaming media apps) and in Quake III (that's because the Q3 code is heavily optimized for the P3/P4 processors anyways). The only thing truly holding back the Athlon are the chipsets. Via chipsets aren't nearly as good as AMD's or Intel's (definitely nowhere as good as Intel's). -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:18: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275CB37B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:18:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id BA14755407; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A872B51610; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:12:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: "MERCER, JAMES (SBCSI)" Cc: "'questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: NIC Help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-17, MERCER, JAMES (SBCSI) scribbled: # I have just installed a second NIC - Intel Pro 100+. I need to configure it # but I do not know the commands. Normally, I would type # boot -r from the OK prompt then configure IP address for the NIC. But with # Free BSD I am not sure of the commands. I know I must modify the rc.conf # file but what else? Run /stand/sysinstall as root, go under Configuration (?) and you can edit the interfaces from there. Or you can add something like: ifconfig_fxp1="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" to /etc/rc.conf if the new Intel card is in addition to another Intel card. If there isn't already a line in /etc/rc.conf with fxp0, then use fxp0 instead of fxp1. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:19:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BC037B618 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:19:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 33CA555407; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B9951610; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:13:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Cc: Subject: Re: adaptec scsi controllers In-Reply-To: <85.9c782b1.280e18dd@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-17, LAKEADS@aol.com scribbled: # Iam trying to figure out what u160 cards are supported by free bsd? To find out what hardware is supported under FreeBSD 4.2, go to: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.2R/notes.html There is a list of SCSI and SCSI RAID controllers in there. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:29:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail01.domainbank.com (mail.domainbank.com [209.92.184.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1339B37B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:29:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdmiller@domainbank.com) Received: from mordor (mordor.domainbank.com [192.168.2.18]) by mail01.domainbank.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.5.186) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:29:14 -0400 Message-ID: <034701c0c78d$d4d61550$1202a8c0@domainbank.com> From: "Jeff Miller" To: References: Subject: Re: Apache error! Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:29:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There may be multiple instances of Apache running or another app grapped port 80. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guillermo Leandro" To: Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 12:53 AM Subject: Apache error! > Hi everybody! > > I'm in the middle of an web server installation and receive this log-error > message everytime try to start the server: > > > [crit] (42) Protocol not available: make_sock: for port 80, > setsockopt: (SO_ACCEPTFILTER) > > > Can anybody help me? > > Thanx anyway! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:33:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from priv-edtnes11-hme0.telusplanet.net (fepout3.telus.net [199.185.220.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A0037B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:33:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from CRX.sfu.ca ([209.53.63.29]) by priv-edtnes11-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with ESMTP id <20010417223354.XCQI10980.priv-edtnes11-hme0.telusplanet.net@CRX.sfu.ca>; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:33:54 -0600 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010417153906.03054b50@mail.geektank.org> X-Sender: tmchow@popserver.sfu.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:39:33 -0700 To: Noah Dunker From: Trevin Chow Subject: RE: ARP message filling my logs Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How can I ignore the messages? At 05:27 PM 4/17/2001 -0500, Noah Dunker wrote: >DHCP Addresses rotating between computers, or if you're using a product like >MetaIP that gives each USER an IP Address based on Username (instead of by >MAC address), this could easily be the cause. > >Noah Dunker >Systems Analyst/Technician >Johnson County Community College > >-----Original Message----- >From: Trevin Chow [mailto:tmchow@sfu.ca] >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:20 PM >To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: ARP message filling my logs > > >Hi, > >I'm getting these messages from my ISP's 2 nameservers. The messages are >constantly flooding >my console terminal and I'd like the insanity to stop :) > >/kernel: arp: 209.53.0.1 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 >on fxp0 >/kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 >on fxp0 >/kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 to 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe >on fxp0 > >Why the heck would the MAC address keep changing? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:40: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ecci.ucr.ac.cr (orion.ecci.ucr.ac.cr [163.178.104.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340D637B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from guille@orion.ecci.ucr.ac.cr) Received: from localhost (guille@localhost) by orion.ecci.ucr.ac.cr (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with ESMTP id e1C5V2w30398; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:31:07 -0600 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:31:02 -0600 (CST) From: Guillermo Leandro To: jdmiller@www.domainbank.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Apache error! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There are no instances of Apache running and no other application is using the port 80. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:40:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net [24.69.46.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7B437B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (localhost.gv.shawcable.net [127.0.0.1]) by h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3HMgi124693 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:42:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Michael O'Henly" Reply-To: michael@tenzo.com Organization: TENZO Design Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:42:44 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041713553100.23795@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Three easy questions about ipfw... Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi... 1. If I'm running sendmail but use it for outgoing mail only, should I make port 25 open on the external interface? For instance, would my machine need to receive responses confirming that outgoing mail has been successfully delivered? 2. If I describe $onet as being equal to $oip, ipfw seems to be able to figure out the bitmask for $onet by looking at the netmask. (I know this because I can see what $onet is expanded to when I do a 'ipfw list'.) Is this acceptable or should I be using something like: onet=`ifconfig rl0 | grep "inet " | awk '{print $2 "/23"}'` 3. If describing $onet as being equal to $oip _is_ acceptable, would it be more efficient to enter it as... onet=`ifconfig rl0 | grep "inet " | awk '{print $2}'` omask="255.255.254.0" oip=onet Or better yet, to just replace all occurrences of $onet in rc.firewall with $oip? Thanks. M. -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:42:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns-exch05.jccc.net (ns-exch05.jccc.net [198.248.56.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE9337B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:42:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ndunker@jccc.net) Received: by ns-exch05 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:40:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: Noah Dunker To: 'Trevin Chow' Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: ARP message filling my logs Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:40:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I might be crazy here, but those logs look like something that arpwatch would generate. If you're running arpwatch, shut it down. If you're not running arpwatch, then you will need to play with syslog.conf. In general, FreeBSD ships with a very "noisy" syslog default configuration for a normal desktop user. I'd try to figure what syslog convention and level it's coming in as, and modify your syslog.conf accordigly. There's a LOT of juicy information in books and on the web about how to tune syslog. For a REALLY detailed dissection of the syslog.conf file, give chapter 8 of the book "Linux System Security" a read. It's a good book to have around, a lot of it applies to Linux AND many other OS's, but a lot of it's only useable in Linux, too. I don't know off the top of my head where you can get a good tutorial about syslog off the Web. Sorry. Noah Dunker Systems Analyst/Technician Johnson County Community College -----Original Message----- From: Trevin Chow [mailto:tmchow@sfu.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:40 PM To: Noah Dunker Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: ARP message filling my logs How can I ignore the messages? At 05:27 PM 4/17/2001 -0500, Noah Dunker wrote: >DHCP Addresses rotating between computers, or if you're using a product like >MetaIP that gives each USER an IP Address based on Username (instead of by >MAC address), this could easily be the cause. > >Noah Dunker >Systems Analyst/Technician >Johnson County Community College > >-----Original Message----- >From: Trevin Chow [mailto:tmchow@sfu.ca] >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:20 PM >To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: ARP message filling my logs > > >Hi, > >I'm getting these messages from my ISP's 2 nameservers. The messages are >constantly flooding >my console terminal and I'd like the insanity to stop :) > >/kernel: arp: 209.53.0.1 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 >on fxp0 >/kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 >on fxp0 >/kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 to 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe >on fxp0 > >Why the heck would the MAC address keep changing? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:45:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f121.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B8537B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:45:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd_mike@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:45:41 -0700 Received: from 65.25.207.104 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:45:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.25.207.104] From: "Mike Dorin" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Lockup continues, any know problems with Intel motherboards? Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:45:41 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Apr 2001 22:45:41.0687 (UTC) FILETIME=[21746C70:01C0C790] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My strange lockup problem continues. I can get it to happen most often when I build ssh. Mostly the system just locks up however, from time to time I get a page fault error message. (details sent in my last email) I am running Freebsd 4.2. Are there any know problems with Intel motherboards? I am using the built in ethernet on this board. Any thoughts on how I can nail the problem down would be helpful. The computer dealer is not willing to swap anything until I can prove it is defective hardware. The board has some lights on the back which, he says, indicates an OS problem. Help! -Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:46:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns-exch05.jccc.net (ns-exch05.jccc.net [198.248.56.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B27A37B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:46:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ndunker@jccc.net) Received: by ns-exch05 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:43:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: Noah Dunker To: "'michael@tenzo.com'" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Three easy questions about ipfw... Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:43:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 1) "No." Block it on the external IP. 2) I'd say it's acceptable. If your network doesn't change, make it static. 3) Again... There's no real rule on how to write your IPFW filters. Just run with what works, and have fun! Noah Dunker Systems Analyst/Technician Johnson County Community College -----Original Message----- From: Michael O'Henly [mailto:michael@tenzo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:43 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Three easy questions about ipfw... Hi... 1. If I'm running sendmail but use it for outgoing mail only, should I make port 25 open on the external interface? For instance, would my machine need to receive responses confirming that outgoing mail has been successfully delivered? 2. If I describe $onet as being equal to $oip, ipfw seems to be able to figure out the bitmask for $onet by looking at the netmask. (I know this because I can see what $onet is expanded to when I do a 'ipfw list'.) Is this acceptable or should I be using something like: onet=`ifconfig rl0 | grep "inet " | awk '{print $2 "/23"}'` 3. If describing $onet as being equal to $oip _is_ acceptable, would it be more efficient to enter it as... onet=`ifconfig rl0 | grep "inet " | awk '{print $2}'` omask="255.255.254.0" oip=onet Or better yet, to just replace all occurrences of $onet in rc.firewall with $oip? Thanks. M. -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:50:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.akalink.com (akalink.com [64.23.81.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A89137B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:50:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfortin@akalink.com) Received: (qmail 16300 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 21:48:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gmoto) (64.23.81.14) by akalink.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 21:48:58 -0000 Message-ID: <009a01c0c790$e620c820$0200320a@gmoto> From: "Jonathan Fortin" To: References: Subject: Re: ARP message filling my logs Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:51:11 -0400 Organization: Akalink MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It has nothing to do with syslog, arpwatch.or Linux system security. sysctl -w net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_wrong_iface=0 will stop logging those events ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noah Dunker" To: "'Trevin Chow'" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 6:40 PM Subject: RE: ARP message filling my logs > I might be crazy here, but those logs look like something > that arpwatch would generate. If you're running arpwatch, > shut it down. If you're not running arpwatch, then you > will need to play with syslog.conf. In general, FreeBSD > ships with a very "noisy" syslog default configuration for > a normal desktop user. I'd try to figure what syslog > convention and level it's coming in as, and modify your > syslog.conf accordigly. There's a LOT of juicy information > in books and on the web about how to tune syslog. For a > REALLY detailed dissection of the syslog.conf file, give > chapter 8 of the book "Linux System Security" a read. It's > a good book to have around, a lot of it applies to Linux AND > many other OS's, but a lot of it's only useable in Linux, too. > > I don't know off the top of my head where you can get a good > tutorial about syslog off the Web. Sorry. > > Noah Dunker > Systems Analyst/Technician > Johnson County Community College > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Trevin Chow [mailto:tmchow@sfu.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:40 PM > To: Noah Dunker > Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: ARP message filling my logs > > > How can I ignore the messages? > > At 05:27 PM 4/17/2001 -0500, Noah Dunker wrote: > >DHCP Addresses rotating between computers, or if you're using a product > like > >MetaIP that gives each USER an IP Address based on Username (instead of by > >MAC address), this could easily be the cause. > > > >Noah Dunker > >Systems Analyst/Technician > >Johnson County Community College > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Trevin Chow [mailto:tmchow@sfu.ca] > >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:20 PM > >To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >Subject: ARP message filling my logs > > > > > >Hi, > > > >I'm getting these messages from my ISP's 2 nameservers. The messages are > >constantly flooding > >my console terminal and I'd like the insanity to stop :) > > > >/kernel: arp: 209.53.0.1 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > >on fxp0 > >/kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > >on fxp0 > >/kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 to 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe > >on fxp0 > > > >Why the heck would the MAC address keep changing? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:53:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2000237B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from scsiguy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3HMrNs34827; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:53:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200104172253.f3HMrNs34827@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: LAKEADS@aol.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adaptec scsi controllers In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:08:24 EDT." <85.9c782b1.280e18dd@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:53:23 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Iam trying to figure out what u160 cards are supported by free bsd? With the latest 4.2-stable or the upcoming 4.3 release, all of them. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 15:54:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478C437B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu) Received: from onyx (onyx.cs.binghamton.edu [128.226.140.171]) by bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3HMsT206945 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:54:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Zhihui Zhang X-Sender: zzhang@onyx To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: command script file Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If I have the following file named doit: # cat doit pwd ls -al # chmod u+x doit. # ./doit It runs OK even if there is no #!/bin/sh at its first line. Is this feature implemented in the shell or kernel? If in shell, how does it implement it? Thanks. -Zhihui To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 16: 0:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bromine.intertech.net (mail.galaxyispc.com [24.223.0.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72CA37B43E for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:00:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lgoodbar@ispchannel.com) Received: from IO (cm-205-218-230-234.oxford.galaxy.ispchannel.com [205.218.230.234]) by bromine.intertech.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3HN0bq82144 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:00:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lgoodbar@ispchannel.com) From: Loyd Goodbar To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Xfree 336->4 update woes Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:00:15 -0500 Reply-To: lgoodbar@ispchannel.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I updated my ports the other day, and decided to upgrade from X 3.3.6 to = X 4.0.3. (Running 4.2-RELEASE) I started the process with /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server It download x402src-1.tgz, then the 402->403 patch. Applied the patch. = Started (I think) a make clean ... did a bunch of rm statements, followed by ln statements. Here it tanked... + rm -f XKBlib.h + ln -s ../../../lib/X11/XKBlib.h . make: don't know how to make ../../imports/x11/lib/xtrans/transport.c. = Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server/work/xc/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server/work/xc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server/work/xc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server. *** Error code 1 There doesn't seem to be an imports directory anywhere under /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server/work/xc. I found a transport.c in ....work/xc/lib/xtrans. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do here, though....Does anyone have = ideas?=20 Thanks, Loyd -- Loyd Goodbar lgoodbar@ispchannel.com ICQ#504581 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 16: 5:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web10103.mail.yahoo.com (web10103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A55F37B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mschroebel@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010417230547.47745.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.127.154.26] by web10103.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:05:47 PDT Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:05:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Schroebel Subject: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-01:33.ftpd-glob To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all! I'm running FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0 Tue Aug 15 20:32:33. I installed the patch, but when I do a make install in /usr/src/lib/libc I get: /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c: In function `glob': /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: `GLOB_MAXPATH' undeclared = (first use this function) /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: (Each undeclared identifier is = reported only once /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: for each function it appears = in.) /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c: In function `globextend': /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:689: `GLOB_LIMIT' undeclared (first = use this function) *** Error code 1 What to do? Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 16:12:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96D437B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:12:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@tumbolia.com) Received: from shell-2.enteract.com (shell-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.41]) by smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B21F66CB; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:12:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:12:51 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt X-Sender: dscheidt@shell-2.enteract.com To: Zhihui Zhang Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: command script file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Zhihui Zhang wrote: : :If I have the following file named doit: : :# cat doit :pwd :ls -al :# chmod u+x doit. :# ./doit : :It runs OK even if there is no #!/bin/sh at its first line. Is this :feature implemented in the shell or kernel? If in shell, how does it :implement it? Thanks. : The shell attempts to exec the file. If that fails, it's passed to the shell with the name of the file as the first arguement. See exec(3) to see how you can do it. -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 16:18:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-1.llnl.gov (smtp-1.llnl.gov [128.115.250.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526D237B443 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:18:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from guse1@llnl.gov) Received: from lawrence.llnl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-1.llnl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/LLNL-gateway-1.0) with ESMTP id QAA07137 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20010417155903.04e4feb0@popcorn.llnl.gov> X-Sender: e345636@popcorn.llnl.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:16:59 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: James Guse Subject: Upgrading a system Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm a little confused about the recommended way to upgrade a FreeBSD system. I want to avoid anything to do with sources/CVS, etc; I'm looking for straightforward upgrades of bastion, production systems. I've found the following incomplete information: FAQ 1.31 says: Use "binary snapshots" of -STABLE. (Ok, I understand how to install a new system from the snapshots, but upgrading?) 4.2-...-STABLE UPGRADE.TXT says: These notes assume that you are using the version of sysinstall supplied with the version of FreeBSD to which you intend to upgrade. Using a mismatched version of sysinstall is almost guaranteed to cause problems and has been known to leave systems in an unusable state. The most commonly made mistake in this regard is the use of an old copy of /stand/sysinstall from an existing installation to upgrade to a newer version of FreeBSD. This is NOT recommended. (Ok, so how to I get the correct /stand/sysinstall for the version I want to upgrade to before I upgrade the system? Does /stand come in the 'bin' distribution?) So I took a chance and upgraded a 4.2-RELEASE system to 4.2-20010411-STABLE. Everything worked fine except for a kernel naming problem: UPGRADE.TXT says that the kernel will be replaced with a generic kernel. Fine, but it doesn't say that you have to 'mv kernel.GENERIC kernel' so that /boot/defaults/loader.conf will actually boot the system. Once it was all done, it appeared that nothing in /stand was updated. Further, when I copied the contents of /stand (actually a nest of hard links) to another system to perform the upgrade, it seemed to think it was the version that that other system was installed as. So, unless I've just missed an obvious pointer to the simple explanation of how to do an upgrade, perhaps this is a good item for the FAQ. Jimmy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 16:21:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dualcpus.com (dualcpus.com [65.160.20.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66E5437B440 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:21:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgowdy@home.com) Received: (qmail 30072 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 23:21:03 -0000 Received: from sherline.cts.com (HELO server2) (204.216.163.132) by dualcpus.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 23:21:03 -0000 Message-ID: <002c01c0c795$15bee360$015778d8@sherline.net> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Linh Pham" , "Vincent Poy" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , "Marc W" , "Kyle" , References: Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:20:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On 2001-04-17, Vincent Poy scribbled: > > # Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? > > The AMD Athlon tends to beat the Pentium III in most cases (when > matching Mhz... faster Athlons will fly by a Pentium III without a > problem). The Pentium 4 tends to beat the Athlon in memory bandwidth > intensive cases (ie: MPEG-4 encoding, some streaming media apps) and in > Quake III (that's because the Q3 code is heavily optimized for the P3/P4 > processors anyways). This is not entirely true. Although the P4 has a 400mhz bus speed, actual testing shows that the Pentium 4 puts out almost the same throughput as it's 100/133mhz counterparts, it simply takes more clocks to do so. The applications in which the Pentium 4 wins are SSE/SSE2 optimized. These are not all that common. If you're referring to MPEG-4 encoding as tested in Tom's Hardware, remember that the Pentium 4 got the crap kicked out of it in the non-SSE2 non-3DNow! optimized version of the test, and since the application wouldn't even BE SSE2 optimized if it weren't for Intel not liking the results of the benchmark, I don't really care much for the Intel optimized benchmark. If Intel were going to go around and optimize EVERYONE's software, that would be another story. Not to mention the fact that the Pentium 4 clocks down as the processor heats up, causing a Pentium 4 1.5ghz to run at 750 mhz when the load is 100% (1.0) for an extended period of time. No wonder the Pentium 4 1.5 ghz loses head to head with an Athlon 1.2 ghz in non-Intel optimized testing. The processor speed steps like a laptop depending on the power/heat conditions. Even calling such a cpu a 1.5 ghz is a stretch in my opinion with that underclocking. The P4 will run at 1.5 ghz when idle, but then clock down to 750 mhz when the load is 1.0. What the heck is the point of that ?! It's more than happy to burn away power idling at 1.5 ghz, but when the processor is actually needed to get some work done, it has to underclock to avoid overheating. "1.5 ghz, except when you need it." http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/13/2041238&mode=thread http://www.inqst.com/articles/p4bandwidth/p4bandwidthmain.htm As for the AMD+SMP vs Intel+SMP, I can't say regarding the FreeBSD support, however, AMD's SMP is supposed to be far faster than Intel's because it has a Point-to-Point bus for the SMP connection, meaning _each_ CPU has a dedicated 200mhz (100mhz DDR) connection to the bus, when on an Intel SMP motherboard the two or more cpus will share the same 100mhz bus. That means on a 4 way SMP Intel system, each cpu will get an effective 25mhz access to the bus under full load in theory. By the same theory, AMD cpus would each have their own 200mhz dedicated connection to the bus, even in an 8 cpu setup. AMD cpus support up to 14 way SMP. The PIII can only support 2 cpus, and the Xeon can only support 4. http://www.sandpile.org I won't even start on the Pentium 4's Rambus RDRAM stupidity. Also it seems important to mention, current pricewatch.com prices: Athlon 1.33 ghz $216 Athlon 1.2 ghz $190 Pentium 4 1.5 ghz $454 Pentium 4 1.4 ghz $288 Pentium 3 1.0 ghz $217 Considering the Athlon 1.2 beats the Pentium 4 1.5 ghz in honest non-Intel biased x86 processing (like business applications which aren't really optimized by SSE2 or 3D-Now!), I see no reason to pay that much for a Pentium 4. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 16:28:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.1.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A99837B446 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:28:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulysses@zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl) Received: from localhost (ulysses@localhost) by zeus.polsl.gliwice.pl (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA05835 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:28:30 +0200 (METDST) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:28:29 +0200 (METDST) From: Fenix To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Gravis Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi How to enable sound on Gravis Ultrasound Classic I've tried pcm and gusc without effect fnx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 16:46:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F3037B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:46:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14pfBI-000ECy-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:46:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:46:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: flexbackup problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here are the errors..... Help with making this work is appreciated. root@ns1:/# flexbackup Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/local/bin/flexbackup line 82. flexbackup version 0.9.8 /etc/flexbackup.conf syntax OK Errors: Nothing to do (see -help) root@ns1:/# flexbackup -list flexbackup version 0.9.8 /etc/flexbackup.conf syntax OK |------------------------------------------------ mt: compression: unknown command Use of uninitialized value in numeric eq (==) at /usr/local/bin/flexbackup line 2242. | Reading from current tape position |------------------------------------------------ /dev/rsa0: hardware block location 0 |------------------------------------------------ | buffer -m 3m -s 64k -u 100 -t -p 75 -B -i /dev/rsa0 | afio -t -z -D \ | /usr/local/bin/flexbackup -v -b 64k - |------------------------------------------------ buffer (reader): failed to read input: Input/output error afio: "-": No input |------------------------------------------------ /dev/rsa0: hardware block location 0 |------------------------------------------------ root@ns1:/# cat /etc/flexbackup.conf # -*-Mode: perl-*- # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Flexbackup configuration file # # $Id: flexbackup.conf,v 1.36 1999/11/03 03:13:42 edwinh Exp $ # $Name: v0_9_8 $ # # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # General configuration section # Archive type? afio, dump, tar, cpio, or zip $type = 'afio'; # List the filesystems you wish to dump when 'all' is given # Just a simple space-separated list # Remote filesystems should denoted as 'host:dir' # # Example: # $filesystems[0] = '/ /usr /home machine1:/usr machine2:/home'; # # If you want an 'all' level 0 backup to span multiple tapes, add more lines # You will be prompted for tape change in between. # $filesystems[0] = '/ /usr'; #$filesystems[1] = '/home otherhost:/bigdisk'; # Compression $compress = 'hardware'; # one of false/gzip/bzip2/compress/hardware $compr_level = '4'; # compression level (1-9) (for gzip/bzip2/zip) # Buffering $buffer = 'true'; # true to use "buffer" program to help streaming $buffer_megs = '3'; # buffer memory size (in megabytes) $pad_blocks = 'true'; # true to pad blocks to blocksize # Device to backup to - non-rewinding version please! # # Examples: # Linux SCSI: /dev/nst0 Linux IDE: /dev/nht0 # Linux ftape: /dev/nqft0 FreeBSD SCSI: /dev/rsa0 # # If a directory, archive to files in that directory rather than a device # $device = '/dev/rsa0'; # Block size (k) to use (default for most things is 10) $blksize = '64'; # True to use "variable" block size for the tape device (mt setblk 0) # If false, will use the $blksize parameter above. All non-mt commands # will still use $blksize regardless of this value $mt_var_blksize = 'true'; # Other global flags $remoteshell = 'rsh'; # command for remote shell (rsh/ssh/ssh2) $verbose = 'true'; # echo each file? (for afio/tar/cpio/zip) $sparse = 'true'; # handle sparse files (for afio/tar/cpio) $indexes = 'true'; # false to turn off all table-of-contents support # Span across filesytems? ("dump" will ignore this option) # Set to "false" (don't) , "local" (all but nfs), or "all" (everything) $traverse_fs = 'false'; # Exclude files that match these *regular expressions* (not shell wildcards) # from the backups (no affect on 'dump' archives). You can list more than one, # just keep incrementing the index in the brackets for each. Also, strip off # leading directories (the filesystem specs above or the "-fs" flag). # Comment these out to exclude nothing. #$exclude_expr[0] = 'news/articles'; #$exclude_expr[1] = '.*~$'; #'# single quote so emacs font-lock is happy # File extensions that should not be compressed (seperate with spaces) # For afio and zip only (since they do each file individually) $nocompress_types = 'mp3 Z z gz gif zip lha jpeg jpg taz tgz deb rpm bz2'; # If true (default), level zero "all" assumes you want to erase and use # a new tape. If false, level zero "all" appends like all other backups $erase_tape_all_level_zero = 'true'; # Set this to "true" to make erase operations just rewind - not really # call "mt erase". For some tape drives, erase takes hours rather # than seconds $erase_rewind_only = 'true'; # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Log/stamp files, path for temporary files $logdir = "/var/log/flexbackup"; # directory for log files $stampdir = "/var/run/flexbackup"; # directory for backup timestamps $index = "$stampdir/index"; # DB filename for tape indexes $comp_log = "gzip"; # compress log? false/gzip/bzip2/compress $prefix = ""; # log files will start with this prefix $sprefix = ""; # stamp files will start with this prefix $tmpdir = "/usr/tmp"; # used for temporary refdate files, etc # Why do I suggest /var/state/flexbackup for the stamp/indexes? # See the FHS, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.0/fhs-5.11.html # BSD users probably want /var/db/flexbackup # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Parameters for 'afio' only # True to show block numbers $afio_echo_block = 'false'; # Files less than this size (kilobytes) won't be compressed $afio_compress_threshold = '3'; # Maximum amount of memory (megabytes) to use for temporary storage of # compression results. If a compressed file is bigger than this, compression # will have to run twice on the file (see manpage). $afio_compress_cache_size = '2'; # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Parameters for 'tar' only # True to show record numbers $tar_echo_record_num = 'false'; # True to preserve file access times $tar_atime_preserve = 'true'; # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Parameters for 'cpio' only # Format of cpio archive $cpio_format = 'newc'; # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Parameters for 'dump' only # Estimated tape size (in kilobytes). This number doesn't really do much # but help 'dump' get size estimates if set to zero uses 'dump -a' $dump_length = '0'; # True to use /etc/dumpdates (could mess things up if you dump subdirectories # of mount points). False to use flexbackup's timestamps. $dump_use_dumpdates = 'false'; # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Parameters for 'zip' only ###################################################################### # Leave '1;' on the the next line - for perl 'require' 1; Thanks... Sincerely, Rick Duvall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 16:49:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bromine.intertech.net (mail.galaxyispc.com [24.223.0.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4838037B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:49:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lgoodbar@ispchannel.com) Received: from IO (cm-205-218-230-234.oxford.galaxy.ispchannel.com [205.218.230.234]) by bromine.intertech.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3HNnOq84650 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:49:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lgoodbar@ispchannel.com) From: Loyd Goodbar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfree 336->4 update woes Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:49:02 -0500 Reply-To: lgoodbar@ispchannel.com Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I didn't see the /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4... trying that instead.... = sorry. Loyd On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:00:15 -0500, Loyd Goodbar = wrote: >I updated my ports the other day, and decided to upgrade from X 3.3.6 to= X >4.0.3. (Running 4.2-RELEASE) > >I started the process with /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server -- Loyd Goodbar lgoodbar@ispchannel.com ICQ#504581 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 17: 1: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web4201.mail.yahoo.com (web4201.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B12437B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesse_gross@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010418000101.13523.qmail@web4201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.64.117.232] by web4201.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:01:01 PDT Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jesse Gross Subject: Sendmail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello I'm trying to retrieve my email from a remote POP server and put it in my local mail queue. I then also need to do the reverse - take mail from the mail queue and send it to a SMTP server. I am behind a firewall and have my Internet connection served to me through NAT, but the server is not running FreeBSD. I have a POP daemon that can retrive the mail fine and then tries to give the mail to sendmail at 127.0.0.1:25 It prints messages out that the mail has been retrived, but sendmail complains that it can't lookup the domains of the emails. Do I need to run named to do the DNS query? Also how do I get sendmail to send outgoing mail? Thanks Jesse Gross __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 17:11:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4306637B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:11:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@timogen.com) Received: from timogen.com ([64.167.116.118]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0GBY0037JOHLU1@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:13:56 -0700 From: John Calderon Subject: question regarding ipfilter and slow response times To: questions@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: john@timogen.com Message-id: <3ADCDC44.BAA5B3F0@timogen.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a gw/fw/nat machine that is logging icmp/tcp requests but is serious lagging the return reply. a simple ping takes 800007.4ms but on the gw itself it shows it recieves it real-time. I am not blocking anything and letting everything thru ( just to find out the lowest common denominator) and it recieves a ack packet but doesn't forward that to the host behind my gw/fw any body run into the same problem 17/04/2001 15:44:43.947702 dc0 @0:4 p 192.168.200.2,1117 -> 206.13.28.12,53 PR udp len 20 18432 IN 17/04/2001 15:44:43.947744 fxp0 @0:6 p 192.168.200.2,1117 -> 206.13.28.12,53 PR udp len 20 18432 K-S OUT 17/04/2001 15:44:44.947386 dc0 @0:4 p 192.168.200.2 -> 192.168.200.1 PR icmp len 20 21504 icmp 8/0 IN 17/04/2001 15:44:44.947425 dc0 @0:5 p 192.168.100.7 -> 192.168.200.2 PR icmp len 20 21504 icmp 0/0 K-S OUT 17/04/2001 15:44:45.947408 dc0 @0:4 p 192.168.200.2 -> 192.168.200.1 PR icmp len 20 21504 icmp 8/0 IN 17/04/2001 15:44:45.947449 dc0 @0:5 p 192.168.100.7 -> 192.168.200.2 PR icmp len 20 21504 icmp 0/0 K-S OUT 17/04/2001 15:44:46.947398 dc0 @0:4 p 192.168.200.2 -> 192.168.200.1 PR icmp len 20 21504 icmp 8/0 IN 17/04/2001 15:44:46.947444 dc0 @0:5 p 192.168.100.7 -> 192.168.200.2 PR icmp len 20 21504 icmp 0/0 K-S OUT 17/04/2001 15:44:47.947425 dc0 @0:4 p 192.168.200.2 -> 192.168.200.1 PR icmp len 20 21504 icmp 8/0 IN 17/04/2001 15:44:47.947467 dc0 @0:5 p 192.168.100.7 -> 192.168.200.2 PR icmp len 20 21504 icmp 0/0 K-S OUT snippet from my logs. if you would like more info go ahead let me know network looks like this Internet ---- PUBLICIP 192.168.100.254--------192.168.100.7 192.168.200.1 ------- 192.168.200.2 the .2 address goes thru the .1 ( then NAT works ) then connects to the .7 any help is appreciated. john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 17:13:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D5737B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:13:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B76A66ACB8; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:43:47 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:43:47 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Joel Dinel Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Procmail rule Message-ID: <20010418094347.D80877@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3ADC57A8.5B7210A3@touchtunes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ADC57A8.5B7210A3@touchtunes.com>; from jdinel@touchtunes.com on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:48:08AM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 17 April 2001 at 10:48:08 -0400, Joel Dinel wrote: > I'm looking for a very basic procmail rule that will reply to *every* > mail sent to a user with something like "Out of the office - back > monday". Please don't send replies of this nature to mailing lists. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 17:19:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4037637B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:19:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jud@operamail.com) Received: from schoolhouse (dialup-63.214.213.108.Philadelphia1.Level3.net [63.214.213.108]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA01305 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104180019.UAA01305@maynard.mail.mindspring.net> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:18:29 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jud Subject: New Hardware FreeBSD Compatible? Reply-To: jud@operamail.com X-Mailer: Opera 5.10 build 902 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm building a new machine, keeping some of the old parts, and wondering whether there are any (more or less:) informed opinions out there re: whether my XFree86- 4/FreeBSD 4.2 (soon to be 4.3) based system will work with the new stuff. The new stuff is: 1) AMD 1.33Ghz Tbird (not expecting problems with this) 2) ASUS A7M266 mobo 3) Crucial PC2100 DDR SDRAM 4) Pioneer DR116 DVD/CD-ROM Also, next month when it becomes available, I plan to get a new video card, the Hercules 3D Prophet 4500, based on an unusual chipset, the Kyro II. However, even if this doesn't work with X/FreeBSD, I'll be able to keep my current card, so it won't be a critical problem. If anyone does foresee problems, and has solutions to suggest, I admit to being a relative newbie. Thus, I'd probably be doing my system and myself a favor by not attempting anything particularly complicated or hairy. TIA for any advice. Jud To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 17:19:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dell.dannyland.org (dell.dannyland.org [64.81.36.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDADE37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:19:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: by dell.dannyland.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0565B5BFA; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:18:58 -0700 From: dannyman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Xvnc: client 1 rejected from local host Message-ID: <20010417171858.B21048@dell.dannyland.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So ... this server has X running on it, built from ports, not FreeBSD distribution. At first vncserver was failing because it could not find a "default" font. So, I installed the font tarballs from FreeBSd's dist. Now, vncserver is just rejecting the host, as far as I can tell: 0-17:11 dannyman@always ~> vncserver New 'X' desktop is always.tellme.com:1 Starting applications specified in /home/dannyman/.vnc/xstartup Log file is /home/dannyman/.vnc/always.tellme.com:1.log 0-17:12 dannyman@always ~> cat /home/dannyman/.vnc/xstartup #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" & twm & 0-17:12 dannyman@always ~> cat /home/dannyman/.vnc/always.tellme.com:1.log 17/04/01 17:12:29 Xvnc version 3.3.3r2 17/04/01 17:12:29 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories Cambridge. 17/04/01 17:12:29 All Rights Reserved. 17/04/01 17:12:29 See http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information on VNC 17/04/01 17:12:29 Desktop name 'X' (always.tellme.com:1) 17/04/01 17:12:29 Protocol version supported 3.3 17/04/01 17:12:29 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5901 17/04/01 17:12:29 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5801 17/04/01 17:12:29 URL http://always.tellme.com:5801 AUDIT: Tue Apr 17 17:12:32 2001: 903 Xvnc: client 1 rejected from local host Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server xrdb: Can't open display ':1' AUDIT: Tue Apr 17 17:12:32 2001: 903 Xvnc: client 1 rejected from local host Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server xsetroot: unable to open display ':1' AUDIT: Tue Apr 17 17:12:32 2001: 903 Xvnc: client 1 rejected from local host Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server Xlib: AUDIT: Tue Apr 17 17:12:32 2001: 903 Xvnc: client 1 rejected from local host Client is not authorized to connect to Server Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Serverxterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1 twm: unable to open display ":1" 0-17:12 dannyman@always ~> killall Xvnc Couldn't find anything on Deja. Hrmmm. :/ Any ideas? Thanks, -danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 17:34: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from benny.geektank.org (00-04-ac-38-0e-e8.bconnected.net [209.53.63.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0066937B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:34:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by benny.geektank.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3I0Xrn29632 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:33:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: benny.geektank.org: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:33:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow X-X-Sender: To: Subject: "No modules loaded for IMAP service"? Message-ID: <20010417173119.R29601-100000@benny.geektank.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm continually getting messages on my terminal from imapd that say: No modules loaded for "imap" service I'm not sure why these messages are popping up. IMAP (imap-uw) seems to work fine as I'm accessing my mail via an IMAP mail client and with PINE on another computer. Any ideas? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 17:51:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB05637B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 5C29D55407; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABD151610; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:46:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Jeremiah Gowdy Cc: Vincent Poy , Kris Kennaway , Marc W , Kyle , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <002c01c0c795$15bee360$015778d8@sherline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-17, Jeremiah Gowdy scribbled: # This is not entirely true. Although the P4 has a 400mhz bus speed, actual # testing shows that the Pentium 4 puts out almost the same throughput as it's # 100/133mhz counterparts, it simply takes more clocks to do so. The # applications in which the Pentium 4 wins are SSE/SSE2 optimized. These are # not all that common. If you're referring to MPEG-4 encoding as tested in # Tom's Hardware, remember that the Pentium 4 got the crap kicked out of it in # the non-SSE2 non-3DNow! optimized version of the test, and since the # application wouldn't even BE SSE2 optimized if it weren't for Intel not # liking the results of the benchmark, I don't really care much for the Intel # optimized benchmark. If Intel were going to go around and optimize # EVERYONE's software, that would be another story. I forgot to include the note about SSE2... thanks for mentioning that :) The Pentium 4 does suffer from not only a crippled architecture but also from the higher memory access latency, thanks to DRDRAM. The longer pipeline affects the core speed, not the bus side (or, at least not directly). The longer the pipeline, the clock rate must be higher to run at the same speed as a processor with a lower clock rate and a shorter pipeline. The reason why the Pentium 4 has a 100Mhz QDR (quad data rate) FSB is to match the bandwidth of the dual Rambus memory channel architecture... not because the pipeline is longer. # Not to mention the fact that the Pentium 4 clocks down as the processor # heats up, causing a Pentium 4 1.5ghz to run at 750 mhz when the load is 100% # (1.0) for an extended period of time. No wonder the Pentium 4 1.5 ghz loses # head to head with an Athlon 1.2 ghz in non-Intel optimized testing. The # processor speed steps like a laptop depending on the power/heat conditions. # Even calling such a cpu a 1.5 ghz is a stretch in my opinion with that # underclocking. The P4 will run at 1.5 ghz when idle, but then clock down to # 750 mhz when the load is 1.0. What the heck is the point of that ?! It's # more than happy to burn away power idling at 1.5 ghz, but when the processor # is actually needed to get some work done, it has to underclock to avoid # overheating. "1.5 ghz, except when you need it." # # http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/13/2041238&mode=thread # http://www.inqst.com/articles/p4bandwidth/p4bandwidthmain.htm Kyle from HardOCP posted on Sunday 04.15.2001 refuting the article that was written about the Pentium 4 throttling down. There isn't a direct link to Kyle's note, but you can find it at http://hardocp.com. According to Kyle, the throttling option can be enabled/disabled from within the BIOS setup and that the processor shouldn't be throttling at all if there is proper cooling. # As for the AMD+SMP vs Intel+SMP, I can't say regarding the FreeBSD support, # however, AMD's SMP is supposed to be far faster than Intel's because it has # a Point-to-Point bus for the SMP connection, meaning _each_ CPU has a # dedicated 200mhz (100mhz DDR) connection to the bus, when on an Intel SMP # motherboard the two or more cpus will share the same 100mhz bus. That means # on a 4 way SMP Intel system, each cpu will get an effective 25mhz access to # the bus under full load in theory. By the same theory, AMD cpus would each # have their own 200mhz dedicated connection to the bus, even in an 8 cpu # setup. AMD cpus support up to 14 way SMP. The PIII can only support 2 # cpus, and the Xeon can only support 4. http://www.sandpile.org The new Paliminos and the new C-series Athlons run on a 133Mhz DDR FSB, not at 100Mhz, but I think the 760MP chipset does (officially or unofficially, I don't know) support 100Mhz DDR FSB. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 18:45:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987D737B43E for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:45:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B1FE3A91E; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:44:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:44:01 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Guillermo Leandro Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache error! Message-ID: <20010417204401.B64757@cec.wustl.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from guille@orion.ecci.ucr.ac.cr on Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 10:53:44PM -0600 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 at 10:53:44PM -0600, Guillermo Leandro wrote: > Hi everybody! > > I'm in the middle of an web server installation and receive this log-error > message everytime try to start the server: > > [crit] (42) Protocol not available: make_sock: for port 80, > setsockopt: (SO_ACCEPTFILTER) > > Can anybody help me? > > Thanx anyway! Will you fix your date? It's not February 11, and it's CERTAINLY not 2000. Given this, I'd be willing to lay down $20 that says the time wasn't 10:53PM, either. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 19: 3:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from omta04.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA17037B621 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:03:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k_greenwood1@sluggy.net) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta04.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A449A4F949; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 9676E36EE; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: K.Greenwood To: "Mike Dorin" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lockup problem continues...was memory tools Reply-To: k_greenwood1@sluggy.net X-Originating-Ip: [216.95.179.96] Message-Id: <20010418020334.9676E36EE@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First off, my knowledge is limited (read "relative newbie") but I have twice experienced similar situations that you are in. The first time it was mem, but you already checked that. Maybe you could test the HD? When I was having problems it would just get to a certain point and lock up. When I tried formatting it (via DOS) it would also lock up. Popped in a new HD and my problems disappeared. Hope it helps. --- "Mike Dorin" > wrote: > >Ted, >Thanks for your suggestion. I did just that. I removed half the >chips, got two huge builds going..watched it lock up. Swapped >the memory and did it again. > >Since the machine just locks up...it does not panic..there >are no strings or error messages, is there any >way to point a fingure at the problem? > >Thanks, >-Mike > >>From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" >>To: "Mike Dorin" , >>Subject: RE: Memory Tools for FreeBSD? >>Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:59:00 -0700 >> >>I've found that there's only one way to really know if your >>memory is up to snuff - put it into a SIMM/DIMM tester. >>Even then, all that will do is tell you that the memory >>meets it's own specs - it won't tell you if the memory is >>actually compatible with the system that you put it in. >> >>Failing that, what your doing (attempting to compile >>programs) is a much better test than most of those >>so-called "pc testing" programs like Checkit and so on. >>I've seen plenty of systems that passed memory tests >>but broke on FreeBSD. OS/2 is also a very good memory >>tester - if you can't boot an OS/2 bootable floppy without >>it trapping, then bad ram is definitely indicated. >> >>What most people do when suspecting bad ram is to take half >>the chips out, retry the thing that caused it to crash, then >>see if the problem is still there. If it is, then swap out those >>chips with the half that you first took out and retry again >>and see if the problem goes away. >> >>Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com >>Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide >>Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Dorin >> >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 2:30 PM >> >To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> >Subject: Memory Tools for FreeBSD? >> > >> > >> >My new freebsd server crashes when I try to build things like ssh. >> >I suspect it is a memory problem. Are there any tools that could >> >help me exercise things like memory to be sure? >> >-Mike >> >_________________________________________________________________ >> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >> > >> > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message _____________________________________________________________ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 19:20:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nbrewer.com (sparge.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877F037B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:20:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@nbrewer.com) Received: by mail.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E53E4383097; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:20:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:20:46 -0500 From: Christopher Farley To: Chimon Yeung Cc: UNIX Subject: Re: Remove application/program Message-ID: <20010417212044.A41179@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , Chimon Yeung , UNIX References: <3ADC798D.C8C67945@fremont.sourcee.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ADC798D.C8C67945@fremont.sourcee.com>; from cyeung@sourcee.com on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:12:45AM -0700 Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chimon Yeung (cyeung@sourcee.com) wrote: > Hello, > > How do I remove a program that I no longer needed? Is it just use > "rmdir" to delete the whole directory? Would it causes other programs > that may need the share files? man pkg_delete See also pkg_info to find out what software packages are installed. -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 19:33:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oddjob.adhesivemedia.com (oddjob.adhesivemedia.com [207.202.159.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A2B37B449 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:33:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost) by oddjob.adhesivemedia.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3I2X8t84954 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:33:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:33:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Subject: How to people easily update ports with dependencies (such as galeon)? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all - I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on a painless way to update a port that has dependencies? In my case, I currently have galeon-0.10.2 which requires glib-1.2.10. I currently have glib-1.2.8. The problem is I can remove my galeon port, and install the new one, but installing the new one will install the new version of glib without removing the old one. is there an easy way to tell it to remove any old ports of new versions it's installing? thanks! -philip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 19:41:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from waterfall.typhoon.co.jp (waterfall.typhoon.co.jp [202.33.21.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422EF37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:41:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd@typhoon.co.jp) Received: from typhoon.co.jp (thunder.waterfall.typhoon.co.jp [192.168.3.23]) by waterfall.typhoon.co.jp (8.11.3/8.11.3/waterfall) with ESMTP id f3I2fL103066 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:41:22 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3ADCFECF.C402A71D@typhoon.co.jp> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:41:19 +0900 From: RegBlank X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,zh-TW,ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-01:33.ftpd-glob] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello World! Has any tried patching their systems with the above mentioned patch? I got the following on both 3.5.x and 4.2 systems: Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/lib/libc cc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include -D__DBINTERFACE _PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DYP -c /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c -o glob.o /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c: In function `glob': /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: `GLOB_MAXPATH' undeclared (first use t his function) /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: (Each undeclared identifier is reporte d only once /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c: In function `globextend': /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:689: `GLOB_LIMIT' undeclared (first use thi s function) *** Error code 1 Stop. Did I miss something? Thanks. Reg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 19:59:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DCC37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:59:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09245; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:59:14 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:59:14 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Linh Pham Cc: Kris Kennaway , Marc W , Kyle , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-17, Vincent Poy scribbled: > > # Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? > > The AMD Athlon tends to beat the Pentium III in most cases (when > matching Mhz... faster Athlons will fly by a Pentium III without a > problem). The Pentium 4 tends to beat the Athlon in memory bandwidth > intensive cases (ie: MPEG-4 encoding, some streaming media apps) and in > Quake III (that's because the Q3 code is heavily optimized for the P3/P4 > processors anyways). I thought the Athlon's will beat the P4 and even the PIII's will beat the P4's atleast according to this article.. http://www.emulators.com/pentium4.htm > The only thing truly holding back the Athlon are the chipsets. Via > chipsets aren't nearly as good as AMD's or Intel's (definitely nowhere > as good as Intel's). That's probably true... The VIA chipsets seems to be more expensive than the Intel's for some reason. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 20: 3:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from co3027913-a.mckinn1.vic.optushome.com.au (co3027913-a.mckinn1.vic.optushome.com.au [203.164.216.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3037537B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:03:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@co3027913-a.mckinn1.vic.optushome.com.au) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by co3027913-a.mckinn1.vic.optushome.com.au (8.11.3/8.11.3R2.0) id f3I49cZ01498 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:09:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andrew) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:09:38 +1000 From: Andrew Nesbit To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to automatically update /usr/share/doc Message-ID: <20010418140938.A1454@co3027913-a.mckinn1.vic.optusho> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi... I've been successfully doing cvsup's and rebuilding the system, but now my /usr/share/doc directory is out of date (in particular, the handbook). Is there any way of getting cvsup (or some other program) to automatically keep this stuff up to date? Thanks -Andrew Nesbit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 20:11:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5846737B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:11:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09385; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:11:13 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:11:13 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Linh Pham Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy , Kris Kennaway , Marc W , Kyle , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-17, Jeremiah Gowdy scribbled: > > # This is not entirely true. Although the P4 has a 400mhz bus speed, actual > # testing shows that the Pentium 4 puts out almost the same throughput as it's > # 100/133mhz counterparts, it simply takes more clocks to do so. The > # applications in which the Pentium 4 wins are SSE/SSE2 optimized. These are > # not all that common. If you're referring to MPEG-4 encoding as tested in > # Tom's Hardware, remember that the Pentium 4 got the crap kicked out of it in > # the non-SSE2 non-3DNow! optimized version of the test, and since the > # application wouldn't even BE SSE2 optimized if it weren't for Intel not > # liking the results of the benchmark, I don't really care much for the Intel > # optimized benchmark. If Intel were going to go around and optimize > # EVERYONE's software, that would be another story. > > I forgot to include the note about SSE2... thanks for mentioning that :) > > The Pentium 4 does suffer from not only a crippled architecture but also > from the higher memory access latency, thanks to DRDRAM. The longer > pipeline affects the core speed, not the bus side (or, at least not > directly). The longer the pipeline, the clock rate must be higher to > run at the same speed as a processor with a lower clock rate and a > shorter pipeline. > > The reason why the Pentium 4 has a 100Mhz QDR (quad data rate) FSB is to > match the bandwidth of the dual Rambus memory channel architecture... > not because the pipeline is longer. > > # Not to mention the fact that the Pentium 4 clocks down as the processor > # heats up, causing a Pentium 4 1.5ghz to run at 750 mhz when the load is 100% > # (1.0) for an extended period of time. No wonder the Pentium 4 1.5 ghz loses > # head to head with an Athlon 1.2 ghz in non-Intel optimized testing. The > # processor speed steps like a laptop depending on the power/heat conditions. > # Even calling such a cpu a 1.5 ghz is a stretch in my opinion with that > # underclocking. The P4 will run at 1.5 ghz when idle, but then clock down to > # 750 mhz when the load is 1.0. What the heck is the point of that ?! It's > # more than happy to burn away power idling at 1.5 ghz, but when the processor > # is actually needed to get some work done, it has to underclock to avoid > # overheating. "1.5 ghz, except when you need it." > # > # http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/13/2041238&mode=thread > # http://www.inqst.com/articles/p4bandwidth/p4bandwidthmain.htm > > Kyle from HardOCP posted on Sunday 04.15.2001 refuting the article that > was written about the Pentium 4 throttling down. There isn't a direct > link to Kyle's note, but you can find it at http://hardocp.com. > > According to Kyle, the throttling option can be enabled/disabled from > within the BIOS setup and that the processor shouldn't be throttling at > all if there is proper cooling. > > # As for the AMD+SMP vs Intel+SMP, I can't say regarding the FreeBSD support, > # however, AMD's SMP is supposed to be far faster than Intel's because it has > # a Point-to-Point bus for the SMP connection, meaning _each_ CPU has a > # dedicated 200mhz (100mhz DDR) connection to the bus, when on an Intel SMP > # motherboard the two or more cpus will share the same 100mhz bus. That means > # on a 4 way SMP Intel system, each cpu will get an effective 25mhz access to > # the bus under full load in theory. By the same theory, AMD cpus would each > # have their own 200mhz dedicated connection to the bus, even in an 8 cpu > # setup. AMD cpus support up to 14 way SMP. The PIII can only support 2 > # cpus, and the Xeon can only support 4. http://www.sandpile.org > > The new Paliminos and the new C-series Athlons run on a 133Mhz DDR FSB, > not at 100Mhz, but I think the 760MP chipset does (officially or > unofficially, I don't know) support 100Mhz DDR FSB. Jeremiah has a very good point on the price/performance ratio since the AMD wins a few times over the Intel's in terms of performance. I know this might be offtopic but I was looking at the distributed.net rc5 and the AMD does 3.5 keys/sec per Mhz on the Athlon while the Intel PII/PIII/Celeron's all do 3.3 keys/sec per Mhz but the PowerPC G4 does like 8.1 keys/sec per Mhz which seems to smoke the Intel/AMD platforms. Now, since Mac OSX is out which is based on FreeBSD even though their kernel is Mach based, would a G4 400 like the Cube be more powerful than a 1Ghz AMD or Intel? Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 20:18:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C1A2A37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:18:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from unknown (HELO as2.kptn.org) (203.106.174.155) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 03:18:23 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:22:32 +0800 From: Alvin Sim X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52 Beta/4) Reply-To: Alvin Sim Organization: n/a X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: stop ppp dialing on boot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello list, i have been searching around for a way to stop ppp from dialing when the machine boots up but so far, i cannot say that i have found an answer. hopefully someone here can help me out :) i have a very simple lan comprising of a fbsd server (4.3-rc) that serves as a gateway to 2 other machines running ntws and 98. ppp is configured and i can dial 'ppp -auto provider' w/ no problems from a ssh session from nt (telnet is disabled). now, this seems very unconventional that i have to make a ssh session everytime i want to connect to my isp. furthermore, the person behind the machine running 98 has zero knowledge of doing anything of that sort (i.e. telnet, ssh... ) ok, so i set up ppp to dial when there's a connection going out of my lan when the system boots up. but... somehow, it dials everytime it boots up instead of when it detects an outbound connection from my lan. and i dont want that (dialing upon booting up) since i'm charged on a per-minute dialup basis. anyways, i'm including part my rc.conf config if someone can have a look at it and tell me where i did wrong. start my rc.conf =========================================================== # ### Basic network: ### network_interfaces="lo0 rl0" ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" hostname="my.domain.org" # ### Network routing options: ### gateway_enable="YES" router_enable="NO" defaultrouter="NO" forward_sourceroute="NO" accept_sourceroute="NO" tcp_drop_synfin="NO" # Set to YES to drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN tcp_restrict_rst="NO" # Set to YES to restrict emission of RST firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="open" firewall_quite="YES" natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="tun0" natd_flags="-dynamic" # # User ppp configuration. ppp_enable="YES" ppp_mode="auto" ppp_nat="NO" ppp_profile="provider" =========================================================== end my rc.conf if ppp_enable="NO", i then have to manually dial. if ppp_enable="YES", it dials on booting up :( so, how can i make it dial ONLY when it detects an outbound traffic? thanks for looking into this. -- Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 21:54:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtppop2pub.verizon.net (smtppop2pub.gte.net [206.46.170.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D602737B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:54:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Received: from gte.net (evrtwa1-ar4-4-34-145-186.dsl.gtei.net [4.34.145.186]) by smtppop2pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id XAA127881700 Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:57:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from res03db2@localhost) by gte.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA54348; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:56:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:56:39 -0700 From: Robert Clark To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: michael@tenzo.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Naming ethernet NICs Message-ID: <20010417215639.A54277@darkstar.gte.net> References: <01041017553500.02141@pravda.tenzo.net> <000e01c0c24a$9c9edfc0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <000e01c0c24a$9c9edfc0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>; from tedm@toybox.placo.com on Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:45:27PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So you're advocating using NICs on different drivers, just so that you can tell them apart? On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:45:27PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Michael O'Henly > > > >So if NICs are named on the basis of their type/driver, doesn't > >that mean a > >lot of reconfiguring is needed if you should happen to replace a card with > >something different? > > > > Let me point out that with regular PC hardware, you can't replace a NIC with > a different type without taking the server offline. Once you do that, all > of the benefits of "transparent reconfiguration" are basically lost. > > In any case, even if you do it differently and make everything "eth0, eth1, > etc. and so on, then how do you determine what physical card in the system > goes with what port? > > To give you an example, recently I built a router on a 486 with 5 separate > nics in them. Every NIC in the router is the same, (SMC8013) and > thus I had ed0, ed1, ed2, etc. On bootup, I still had to test each port to > determine which physical card went to what ed. > > > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 21:58:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.XtremeDev.com (xtremedev.com [216.241.38.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C668E37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@XtremeDev.com) Received: by mail.XtremeDev.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 99B7D13651; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:58:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.XtremeDev.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B5ED945 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:58:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:58:27 -0600 (MDT) From: FreeBSD To: Subject: KDE2, TrueType, AA, and Kmail Message-ID: <20010417225233.U37823-100000@Amber.XtremeDev.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Running into two problems with the aforementioned subject: 1. When I enable antialiasing in KDE2, TrueType fonts become unavailable to the system. I had to turn off AA to get the TrueType fonts back. I've tried setting QT_XFT=0 in my .zshrc, but it still doesn't change anything. Anyone run into this? 2. Kmail work except for mail compose. Sortof. The compose a new message window would appear, but anything I type would not show up, but the characters are being entered. I literally can't see what I'm typing. the cursor would blink at me, sitting on the To: line, and I'd type away at it, but nothing would show up. I can change to the Subject line, type some things, move the body and type things, click send, and it'd send it with all that I have typed, and to the email address I've typed. But I just can't see anything. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 21:59:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fbsd.bosa.ca (cr1003901-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.37.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48F137B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:59:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kulraj@bosa.ca) Received: from ska1 (h207-230-227-196.dccnet.com [207.230.227.196]) by fbsd.bosa.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 6974F158EB9 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <015701c0c7c4$d69859c0$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> From: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" To: Subject: Voice over IP - Question for Kris Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:02:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey Kris, You are probably the best person for this. Are there any plans to support generic H.323 hardware particularly PCI cards from Quicknet If so, when? TIA Regards Kulraj Gurm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 22: 0:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9BA37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3I506k36848; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Christopher Farley" , "Graywane" Cc: Subject: RE: does upsd support BACK-UPS from APC Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:00:05 -0700 Message-ID: <004c01c0c7c4$6f3d9c40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20010417113609.A39486@northernbrewer.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Christopher >Farley >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:36 AM >To: Graywane >Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: does upsd support BACK-UPS from APC > > >Graywane (graywane@home.com) wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 09:01:30AM -0700, Hervey Wilson wrote: >> upsd does support the BACK-UPS series although I've had odd things happen >> with it from time to time. On one machine it was setup to wait >90 seconds, >> warn the users, wait 90 more seconds and then shutdown the >machine. However, >> a 1 second brownout caused the UPSs to go to battery and upsd >shutdown the >> machine instantly (which was more than a little annoying). upsd is only supposed to support the SmartUPS, NOT the BackUPS which uses different signalling protocol. But, I've had this happen on smartups and it's annoying too - I expect it's some setting that's wrong. > >It is not clear from the ports description, but I've been told that upsd >is hard-coded to work with European 220v rather than US 120v power. > Yes, this is true. I have a link on my book website to a version modified by Doug White to work with American power levels. >/usr/ports/sysutils/bkupsd works for me. > This is what I use because the server I run this on is behind an APC switcher that doesen't pass the smartups protocol, just simple signalling. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 22: 3: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ext-ch1gw-4.online-age.net (ext-ch1gw-4.online-age.net [216.34.191.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82D937B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:02:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Srinivas.Sabhanam@gepex.ge.com) Received: from int-ch1gw-3.online-age.net (int-ch1gw-3 [3.159.232.67]) by ext-ch1gw-4.online-age.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1/990426-RLH) with ESMTP id BAA21162 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from joshua.gep.ge.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by int-ch1gw-3.online-age.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1/990426-RLH) with ESMTP id BAA24010 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from segepim.gep.ge.com (segepim.gep.ge.com [3.77.8.223]) by joshua.gep.ge.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02411 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by segepim.gep.ge.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <24R1J255>; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:03:20 -0400 Message-ID: <0B79B104AA51D311982F009027866BC502273D4F@SEHKG002> From: "Sabhanam, Srinivas (GEP)" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Unix Shell Script Question Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:03:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0C7C4.DB5349C0" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C7C4.DB5349C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 22:25:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE0CA37B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:25:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from j168.kch20.jaring.my (HELO as2.kptn.org) (161.142.55.182) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 05:25:07 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:12:57 +0800 From: Alvin Sim X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52 Beta/4) Reply-To: Alvin Sim Organization: n/a X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <868976537.20010418121257@yahoo.co.uk> To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re[2]: stop ppp dialing on boot In-Reply-To: <044501c0c7b6$d5e98480$548d093d@oracle> References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> <044501c0c7b6$d5e98480$548d093d@oracle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 11:22:44 AM, Doug Young wrote: DY> I'd start by commenting out those last four lines [...snip...] well, it doesnt dial out when the last four lines below is commented out, as i previously stated below. any more suggestions? >> >> i have a very simple lan comprising of a fbsd server (4.3-rc) that >> serves as a gateway to 2 other machines running ntws and 98. ppp is >> configured and i can dial 'ppp -auto provider' w/ no problems from a >> ssh session from nt (telnet is disabled). now, this seems very >> unconventional that i have to make a ssh session everytime i want to >> connect to my isp. furthermore, the person behind the machine running >> 98 has zero knowledge of doing anything of that sort (i.e. telnet, >> ssh... ) >> >> ok, so i set up ppp to dial when there's a connection going out of my >> lan when the system boots up. but... somehow, it dials everytime it >> boots up instead of when it detects an outbound connection from my >> lan. and i dont want that (dialing upon booting up) since i'm >> charged on a per-minute dialup basis. anyways, i'm including part my >> rc.conf config if someone can have a look at it and tell me where i >> did wrong. >> >> start my rc.conf >> =========================================================== >> >> # >> ### Basic network: ### >> network_interfaces="lo0 rl0" >> ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" >> ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" >> hostname="my.domain.org" >> >> # >> ### Network routing options: ### >> gateway_enable="YES" >> router_enable="NO" >> defaultrouter="NO" >> forward_sourceroute="NO" >> accept_sourceroute="NO" >> tcp_drop_synfin="NO" # Set to YES to drop TCP packets with DY> SYN+FIN >> tcp_restrict_rst="NO" # Set to YES to restrict emission of RST >> >> firewall_enable="YES" >> firewall_type="open" >> firewall_quite="YES" >> natd_enable="YES" >> natd_interface="tun0" >> natd_flags="-dynamic" >> >> # >> # User ppp configuration. >> ppp_enable="YES" >> ppp_mode="auto" >> ppp_nat="NO" >> ppp_profile="provider" >> >> =========================================================== >> end my rc.conf >> >> >> if ppp_enable="NO", i then have to manually dial. if ppp_enable="YES", >> it dials on booting up :( so, how can i make it dial ONLY when it >> detects an outbound traffic? thanks for looking into this. -- Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 22:31: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30C137B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3I5Utk36953; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:30:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mike Dorin" , Cc: Subject: RE: Lockup problem continues...more info Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:30:54 -0700 Message-ID: <005401c0c7c8$bcbf1580$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Mike, Don't get too caught up in thinking that just because it fails on the same file all the time that the problem is reproducible. Your dealing with a random problem here, most definitely. I agree with Linh's suggestion to check for heat problems. However, let me caution you - if you do find an overheating component and correct the problem (by installing a new fan, or heatsink) don't be surprised if problems continue. Heat is a very bad thing for electronics - many components will be _permanently_ damaged by overheating, _espically_ if the overheating is chronic. Besides feeling the chips as he suggests, make sure to get a can of compressed air and blow out the computer. (what I do myself with my home server computers, which are running 24x7 is once a year I shut them down and haul them out to the driveway and pull off their cases then hit them with shop air from a blowgun - it's handy to have an air compressor in the garage. This is a good thing to do for monitors, too) The other suggestion for swapping the HD is a good one too - any old IDE drive even a small 1GB one will make a good test drive. Beyond that, here are some intermittent problems I've had in systems over the years and how I fixed them. Maybe you can get some use out of these. 1) Problem with OS/2 crashing intermittently on a 386 6MB system with an EGA adapter. (this was early 90's if I remember right) fixed with a different ega video card. problem ega card ran fine under Win 3.1 on a different system. 2) Problem with early BSD 0.1 crashing on a 8MB 386 Everex motherboard. Fixed the problem with changing a BIOS setting for the memory access speed. 3) Problem with early Fbsd 2.1.X series on a 486/33 system - swapped the CPU with another system and problem went away. (problem did NOT follow the CPU) 4) Problem with Win95 periodically locking up on a Pentium Pro system. Traced it to an ATI Ultra PCI video card - swapped ATI Ultra card with a ATI Rage 2 PCI card and it went away. Problem did NOT follow card. 5) Problem with NT locking up on a Pentium 166 motherboard, blamed it on NT and loaded BSD on the system. BSD started locking up too. Eventually found that if I removed all of the ISA cards from the system except for an Adaptec 1540 card, the problem went away. Changed the 2 NICS in the system (this is a router system) from SMC8013 isa nics to Realtek 8139 PIC cards and BSD stopped locking up. 6) Problem with a 486/66 16MB system running FreeBSD and locking up. Suspected a faulty disk controller because whenever the system crashed, and I rebooted it the filesystem was completely munged and irrecoverable. Tried 4 different IDE disks in the system with no different results. Finally put in a 1GB SCSI disk on an Adaptec 1520 SCSI controller and problem went away. Anyway, good luck with your system! Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Dorin >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:23 PM >To: lplist@closedsrc.org >Cc: tedm@toybox.placo.com; questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Lockup problem continues...more info > > >It seems to like to lockup mostly while I am building ssh_keygen.c. > >Also this time I got a panic! > >current process = 23319 (cc1) >interrupt mask = none >trap = 12 >panic: page fault > >Any ideas? >Thanks, >Mike > >>From: Linh Pham >>To: Mike Dorin >>CC: , >>Subject: Re: Lockup problem continues...was memory tools >>Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:49:47 -0700 (PDT) >> >>On 2001-04-17, Mike Dorin scribbled: >> >># I thought that too. Except that it will for days without a problem >># if you don't do anything...except let it sit. >> >>When FreeBSD is idle, it sends an HLT instruction to the processor >>(except if you are using a multi-proc computer) to HALT or temporarily >>power down portions of the CPU to keep it cool and keeps the power >>consumption down. >> >>That is why the machine can be stable for a long time if you don't do >>anything taxing on it. Once you do a processor intensive process (like >>building a kernel or something like XFree86, [X]Emacs, make world, etc., >>the OS will not send [nearly as many] HLT instructions to the processor, >>so the processor is grinding away without a chance to cool off. >> >>-- >>Linh Pham >>[lplist@closedsrc.org] >> >>// 404b - Brain not found >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 22:31:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin8.bigpond.com (juicer39.bigpond.com [139.134.6.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66DA37B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:31:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.55]) by mailin8.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GBZ3LI00.2XT; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:36:54 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-141-84.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.141.84]) by mail4.bigpond.com (Claudes-Terrific-MailRouter V2.9c 7/3765530); 18 Apr 2001 15:31:43 Message-ID: <049401c0c7c8$db4c2100$548d093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Alvin Sim" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> <044501c0c7b6$d5e98480$548d093d@oracle> <868976537.20010418121257@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: Re[2]: stop ppp dialing on boot Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:31:44 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I understood from the subject line that you DIDN'T want it to dial on boot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvin Sim" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:12 PM Subject: Re[2]: stop ppp dialing on boot > Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 11:22:44 AM, Doug Young wrote: > > DY> I'd start by commenting out those last four lines > > [...snip...] > > well, it doesnt dial out when the last four lines below is commented > out, as i previously stated below. any more suggestions? > > >> > >> i have a very simple lan comprising of a fbsd server (4.3-rc) that > >> serves as a gateway to 2 other machines running ntws and 98. ppp is > >> configured and i can dial 'ppp -auto provider' w/ no problems from a > >> ssh session from nt (telnet is disabled). now, this seems very > >> unconventional that i have to make a ssh session everytime i want to > >> connect to my isp. furthermore, the person behind the machine running > >> 98 has zero knowledge of doing anything of that sort (i.e. telnet, > >> ssh... ) > >> > >> ok, so i set up ppp to dial when there's a connection going out of my > >> lan when the system boots up. but... somehow, it dials everytime it > >> boots up instead of when it detects an outbound connection from my > >> lan. and i dont want that (dialing upon booting up) since i'm > >> charged on a per-minute dialup basis. anyways, i'm including part my > >> rc.conf config if someone can have a look at it and tell me where i > >> did wrong. > >> > >> start my rc.conf > >> =========================================================== > >> > >> # > >> ### Basic network: ### > >> network_interfaces="lo0 rl0" > >> ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > >> ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > >> hostname="my.domain.org" > >> > >> # > >> ### Network routing options: ### > >> gateway_enable="YES" > >> router_enable="NO" > >> defaultrouter="NO" > >> forward_sourceroute="NO" > >> accept_sourceroute="NO" > >> tcp_drop_synfin="NO" # Set to YES to drop TCP packets with > DY> SYN+FIN > >> tcp_restrict_rst="NO" # Set to YES to restrict emission of RST > >> > >> firewall_enable="YES" > >> firewall_type="open" > >> firewall_quite="YES" > >> natd_enable="YES" > >> natd_interface="tun0" > >> natd_flags="-dynamic" > >> > >> # > >> # User ppp configuration. > >> ppp_enable="YES" > >> ppp_mode="auto" > >> ppp_nat="NO" > >> ppp_profile="provider" > >> > >> =========================================================== > >> end my rc.conf > >> > >> > >> if ppp_enable="NO", i then have to manually dial. if ppp_enable="YES", > >> it dials on booting up :( so, how can i make it dial ONLY when it > >> detects an outbound traffic? thanks for looking into this. > > > > -- > Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 22:44:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl (c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.183.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1718037B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:44:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenix@c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl) Received: from c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl (amnesiac [157.158.183.1]) by c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3I5inK04404 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:44:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fenix@c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:44:48 +0200 From: Fenix To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Gravis Message-Id: <20010418074448.17f62b0f.fenix@c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.64 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.2) Organization: Forbidden Dreams Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have Gravis Ultrasound (Non PnP) sound card in my box. How to make this card to work?? i've tried pcm drivers and gusc and nothing happens please help Fnx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 22:49:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bbaer.muenster.de (bbaer.muenster.de [195.202.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161DD37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:49:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bofh@muenster.de) Received: (from bofh@localhost) by bbaer.muenster.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA05697; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:41:12 +0200 From: Eckart Hofmann Message-Id: <200104180541.HAA05697@bbaer.muenster.de> Subject: Re: Unix Shell Script Question In-Reply-To: <0B79B104AA51D311982F009027866BC502273D4F@SEHKG002> from "Sabhanam, Srinivas (GEP)" at "Apr 18, 2001 1: 3: 7 am" To: Srinivas.Sabhanam@gepex.ge.com (Sabhanam, Srinivas (GEP)) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:41:12 +0200 (MEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL48 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sie, Sabhanam, Srinivas (GEP), haben geschrieben: > > Could you pls. let me know how to delete files in Unix that are older than > specified days? > Have a look at the man page of find(1) to find the right options for your purposes. eg: find /path/to/your/files -type f -ctime +number_of_days -delete Hth, Eckart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 23:12:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C19337B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:12:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 10591 invoked by uid 100); 18 Apr 2001 06:12:28 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.12364.796723.117038@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:12:28 -0500 To: Philip R.Moyer , bsd2000au@yahoo.com.au Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netgraph(4) ? (3) ? hmm In-Reply-To: <29293414@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Philip R.Moyer types: > On Tuesday 17 April 2001 09:39, you wrote: > > Hi all, > > here is a bit of classic ignorance for you. > > what is the (4) bit mean...version I presume! > > I am running freebsd 4.2 > > How do I get netgraph(4) if it has (3) on it? > Keith, > > That is the manual "section" number. The man pages on a UNIX system > are broken down by section: Just as a warning, what each section is used for varies between Unix variants. You'll also see references to sections that aren't numbers - 'l' and 'n' being typical. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 23:33:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f248.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD7737B42C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:33:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from g_et1@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:33:27 -0700 Received: from 63.221.138.130 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:33:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.221.138.130] From: "andy t" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: eggdrop Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:33:27 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2001 06:33:27.0848 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A30BA80:01C0C7D1] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i'm using freebsd4.2. i've tried to run an eggdrop.when i run the eggdrop, there is a message 'look up hostname failed'. but i've done configure my internet connection. do you know what is the problem ? is this command correct ? ifconfig xl0 1.1.1.1 ifconfig xl0 alias 1.1.1.2 ifconfig xl0 alias 1.1.1.3 route add -net 0.0.0.0 1.1.1.4 Thank you, Andy T _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 23:33:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE26937B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 11112 invoked by uid 100); 18 Apr 2001 06:33:34 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.13630.549850.806893@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:33:34 -0500 To: Rick Duvall Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup and Verify In-Reply-To: <45022897@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rick Duvall types: > What is the best way to back up a FreeBSD system to tape and verify the > backup. I have been trying with dump, but I don't know of any way to > verify that. Then, I tried tar with the -W option, and that didn't work > (guess my tape drive doesn't support it). Amanda won't work for us > because I find it isn't really designed for a single box, but rather for > backing up and restoring multiple boxes, AND it's too difficult for the > average ordinary layman to do a disaster recovery with Amanda on a totally > dead system. > > Here are my requirements: Your requirements are incomplete, and I'm not sure they can be met as stated. > * Backups must be done on the live system (single machine with a tape > drive) This is a bad idea. Not "you must be out of your gourd" bad, but "you're asking for trouble" bad. Backups of a live filesystem mean that you can miss files, or dump bad copies of a file. For incrementals, this is a minor problem - you've got one or two files that will need be updated tomorrow. For level 0s, this is a bit of a problem. If some regularly scheduled activity is causing the file to be missed, it may never get backed up, which is bad. For instance, if your backups happen in the midst of updating the financial database, that database will probably never be backed up. > * Backups must be level 0 every time, and must be verified. You forgot to specify what happens when the verify fails. I'd also be interested to know whether the case where a file is backed up, then changed before the backup is verified. Does the verify fail? If not, how is the verification done? Can it fail for just one file, which needs to be backed up again? > * Backups must be logged, especially the verify > > * After the verify, the tape must eject. These are both pretty trivial. > * Must have a disaster recovery solution so that if I get hit by a Mac > Truck, the average joe blow can do the disaster recovery. I prefer a > bootable cd they can put in which will boot, and ask for the last tape, > and will do the restore on a new hard drive, partition it and everything. > virtually no user input for disaster recovery. This seems to imply that you want to back the file system up in a consistent state. That rules out any solution I know could be made to work. You might be able to use vinum to do this for you. The idea is to mirror your file system, then when you want a backup, take one mirror offline, backup that mirror, then put it back and let vinum resync the two drives. You could still catch the file system in the middle of a transaction, which might or might not be acceptable. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 23:35:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9766337B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 11188 invoked by uid 100); 18 Apr 2001 06:35:43 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.13759.132225.692887@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:35:43 -0500 To: Chimon Yeung Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remove application/program In-Reply-To: <17468983@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chimon Yeung types: > How do I remove a program that I no longer needed? Is it just use > "rmdir" to delete the whole directory? Would it causes other programs > that may need the share files? If you did the right thing and installed it from either ports or packages, then "pkg_delete" will do the right thing. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 23:36:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C790C37B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 25558 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2001 06:36:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpu563) (195.229.53.58) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 06:36:16 -0000 Message-ID: <006d01c0c7d1$b63e91a0$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> From: "dotslash" To: "fq" Subject: What happened to 4.2-Stable via cvsup? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:32:37 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed 4.2-Release from CD and wanting it to be 4.2-Stable I did a cvsup (tag=RELENG_4) for the sources and was suprised to see after booting that I have 4.3-RC now. What happened to 4.2-Stable? I thought that for those who want to follow STABLE via cvsup this is the way to go. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 17 23:38:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from agayev.rt.net.tr (agayev.rt.net.tr [212.65.128.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D59037B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:38:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nightbsd@mail.enderunix.org) Received: (qmail 67053 invoked by uid 1007); 18 Apr 2001 08:44:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 08:44:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:44:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Ismail YENIGUL X-X-Sender: To: Peter Kok Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: qmail starting In-Reply-To: <3ADC4E21.F2A2B366@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi your qmail is already running find current tcpserver PID #ps aux|grep tcpserver kill it and run again qmail.sh Ismail YENIGUL nightbsd@enderunix.org http://www.enderunix.org (Turkish *BSD Team Site) On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Peter Kok wrote: > Hi all > > I have error when starting the qmail > please help me how to solve this problem > > email# ./qmail.sh > email# tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used > tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used > > Tks > > regards > Peter > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 0:11:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0831737B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:11:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3I7Bok37270; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:11:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Robert Clark" Cc: , Subject: RE: Naming ethernet NICs Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:11:49 -0700 Message-ID: <006801c0c7d6$d5ff9700$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20010417215639.A54277@darkstar.gte.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, that's not what I meant. Note that in that post I never said that I _didn't like_ having to test each port. :-) What I was merely point out is that the original poster was saying that the "eth0, eth1, eth2..." way of doing things is superior, and I was just responding that "no, it has problems too, such as matching up ports to nics" then following it with an example of ed0, ed1, ed2... I figured that the poster would be able to grasp that there's no difference between eth0, eth1, eth2,,, and ed0, ed1, ed2,,, for what he seemed to think was desirable behavior for having everything named the same. As a matter of fact, I actually don't advocate using different NICS in routers, because if they are all the same then you can make a custom compiled kernel a little smaller since you only have to include 1 nic driver in it. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Robert Clark >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:57 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: michael@tenzo.com; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Naming ethernet NICs > > > > >So you're advocating using NICs on different drivers, just >so that you can tell them apart? > > > >On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:45:27PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Michael O'Henly >> > >> >So if NICs are named on the basis of their type/driver, doesn't >> >that mean a >> >lot of reconfiguring is needed if you should happen to replace >a card with >> >something different? >> > >> >> Let me point out that with regular PC hardware, you can't >replace a NIC with >> a different type without taking the server offline. Once you do >that, all >> of the benefits of "transparent reconfiguration" are basically lost. >> >> In any case, even if you do it differently and make everything >"eth0, eth1, >> etc. and so on, then how do you determine what physical card in >the system >> goes with what port? >> >> To give you an example, recently I built a router on a 486 with >5 separate >> nics in them. Every NIC in the router is the same, (SMC8013) and >> thus I had ed0, ed1, ed2, etc. On bootup, I still had to test >each port to >> determine which physical card went to what ed. >> >> >> >> Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com >> Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide >> Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 0:14:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.port.ru (mx6.port.ru [194.67.23.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D38137B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:14:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anton_rtp@mail.ru) Received: from d06.stel.sebastopol.ua ([195.5.36.131] helo=anton) by smtp6.port.ru with smtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 14pmAr-000FjG-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:14:51 +0400 Message-ID: <000801c0c7ce$e205df80$0c07a8c0@urtf.sebastopol.ua> From: "Anton Moryashin" To: Subject: Sendmail Relay from the one IP to the only one domain. Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:14:32 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. I've got a mail gateway. And I'm trying to make one strange thing. I want to allow relay mail from the one IP(192.168.5.28) only for one domain. (for example: mycompany.com) and deny all other e-mails for other domains. Has anyone done such stuff? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 0:17:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E817637B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:17:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 25712 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2001 07:17:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpu563) (195.229.53.58) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 07:17:33 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c0c7d7$7a820010$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> From: "dotslash" To: "fq" Subject: Fw: What happened to 4.2-Stable via cvsup? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:15:50 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Repost. Sorry if this appears twice. ----- Original Message ----- From: "dotslash" To: "fq" Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:32 AM Subject: What happened to 4.2-Stable via cvsup? > I installed 4.2-Release from CD and wanting it to be 4.2-Stable I did a > cvsup (tag=RELENG_4) for the sources and was suprised to see after booting > that I have 4.3-RC now. > > What happened to 4.2-Stable? I thought that for those who want to follow > STABLE via cvsup this is the way to go. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 0:26:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E4537B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3I7Qfk37318; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:26:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Rick Duvall" , Subject: RE: Backup and Verify Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:26:41 -0700 Message-ID: <006d01c0c7d8$e97fbce0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Duvall >* Must have a disaster recovery solution so that if I get hit by a Mac >Truck, the average joe blow can do the disaster recovery. I prefer a >bootable cd they can put in which will boot, and ask for the last tape, >and will do the restore on a new hard drive, partition it and everything. >virtually no user input for disaster recovery. This is the most rediculous thing I've ever heard, stop reading those Microsoft written articles in CIO magazine and start thinking for a few minutes. Disaster recovery if you get hit by a Mac truck is itself going to be a worse disaster than the disaster that prompted it if your organization decides to pick "the average joe" off the street to do a disaster recovery. For starters, unless you are continually backing up every moment of the day, (which is done in some large systems) there's going to be a lot of transactions on the server that are missed because they happened _after_ last night's backup, and before the disaster struck. So, it's going to take some saavy and technical experience, and good familiarity with your organization's systems to be able to take a restore backup, rebuild the server, then decide what-all that the _organization_ needs to do about that missing data. There's most likely going to be other systems (maybe even paper trails) that make the automatic assumption that your server never crashes, and the biggest amount of work in one of these disaster scenarios is not regenerating the server, but manipulating all other hardware and software in the dependent systems to get them back in sync with what the restored server thinks is reality. That's not something the average joe is going to be able to do. Your going to have a lot better disaster recovery plan if you assume that whoever is brought in to put things back together is knowledgeable and is going to be called on to make a _lot_ of input into creating a new hard drive. All your concern should be is to make absolutely sure that ALL data is committed to storage media. Let whoever is going to be putting Humpty Dumpty back together worry about partitioning and all that. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks. > >Sincerely, > >Rick Duvall > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 1:23: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from campus3.mdarchives.state.md.us (campus3.mdarchives.state.md.us [209.116.251.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49B9F37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from BCoffey@ola.state.md.us) Received: by campus3.mdarchives.state.md.us; id EAA27467; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:22:45 -0400 Received: from unknown(167.102.246.93) by campus3.mdarchives.state.md.us via smap (V5.5) id xmaa27459; Wed, 18 Apr 01 04:22:42 -0400 Received: from olamail.ola.state.md.us (ola-exchange [167.102.136.92]) by mailrelay.state.md.us (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f3DHqEV29696 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:52:15 -0400 Received: by olamail with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2X8DJTPJ>; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:00:04 -0400 Message-ID: <2524D079C5DED111B6BC0060081EE875426CB0@olamail> From: "Coffey, R. Brendan" To: QUESTIONS@freeBSD.ORG Subject: INSTALLATION Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:00:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all. I'm trying to install FreeBSD on a laptop here at the office. I'm installing via a Windows95/MS DOS partition. The Installation process seemed to have gone well but the machine will not boot...not even the Windows partition. All the files transferred successfully and I know that all the data is still on the hard drive because have been able to start (and run ) the installation process numerous times. I'm thinking that maybe I missed something during the Fdisk procedures or labeling procedures. Does anyone have any suggestions? Brendan Coffey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 1:23:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from campus3.mdarchives.state.md.us (campus3.mdarchives.state.md.us [209.116.251.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B144537B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:23:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from BCoffey@ola.state.md.us) Received: by campus3.mdarchives.state.md.us; id EAA27466; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:22:45 -0400 Received: from unknown(167.102.246.93) by campus3.mdarchives.state.md.us via smap (V5.5) id xma027459; Wed, 18 Apr 01 04:22:42 -0400 Received: from olamail.ola.state.md.us (ola-exchange [167.102.136.92]) by mailrelay.state.md.us (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f3GGx8V17138 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:59:08 -0400 Received: by olamail with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2X8DJT5B>; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:06:53 -0400 Message-ID: <2524D079C5DED111B6BC0060081EE875426D99@olamail> From: "Coffey, R. Brendan" To: freebsd-questions@freeBSD.ORG Subject: test Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 13:06:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG test To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 1:25: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from campus3.mdarchives.state.md.us (campus3.mdarchives.state.md.us [209.116.251.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3DC637B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:25:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from BCoffey@ola.state.md.us) Received: by campus3.mdarchives.state.md.us; id EAA27510; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:24:47 -0400 Received: from unknown(167.102.246.93) by campus3.mdarchives.state.md.us via smap (V5.5) id xma027497; Wed, 18 Apr 01 04:24:42 -0400 Received: from olamail.ola.state.md.us (ola-exchange [167.102.136.92]) by mailrelay.state.md.us (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f3GEKSV14041 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:20:29 -0400 Received: by olamail with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2X8DJTWZ>; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:28:14 -0400 Message-ID: <2524D079C5DED111B6BC0060081EE875426D3D@olamail> From: "Coffey, R. Brendan" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: INSTALLATION Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:28:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello all. > I'm trying to install FreeBSD on a laptop here at the office. I'm > installing via a Windows95/MS DOS partition. The Installation process > seemed to have gone well but the machine will not boot...not even the > Windows partition. All the files transferred successfully and I know that > all the data is still on the hard drive because I have been able to start > (and run ) the installation process numerous times. I'm thinking that > maybe I missed something during the Fdisk procedures or labeling > procedures. Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Brendan Coffey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 1:35: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [194.205.134.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FF537B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waynep@zaphod.realtime.co.uk) Received: from zaphod.realtime.co.uk ([194.205.134.208]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14pnQK-000066-01 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:34:52 +0100 Received: from waynep by zaphod.realtime.co.uk with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14pnQX-000NbJ-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:35:05 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Modules + ipf Reply-To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Date: 18 Apr 2001 09:35:04 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just read the ipf security bulletin on Bugtraq, and I now need to update ipf on all of my servers. I would appreciate any help with the following couple of questions: 1. How can I find out if ipf is currently running as a module, or as part of my kernel? I think that it is part of my kernel as I have the following lines in the bottom of my config : options IPFILTER options IPFILTER_LOG 2. I understand that I have to recompile the kernel on all of my servers to make this a module, but I'd rather not do a whole make install process for ipfilter on each machine. Is there any way to build it on one machine, and then farm that out to all the machines ? Thanks in advance... -- - Wayne Pascoe E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 1:39:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8BA37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14pnTQ-000INX-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:38:04 +0300 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:38:04 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-01:33.ftpd-glob] Message-ID: <20010418113804.B66517@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3ADCFECF.C402A71D@typhoon.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ADCFECF.C402A71D@typhoon.co.jp>; from "RegBlank" on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:41:19AM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 11:35AM up 1 day, 17:59, 2 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.05, 0.10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * RegBlank [20010418 05:40]: writing on the subject '[= Fwd: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-01:33.ftpd-glob]' RegBlank> Hello World! RegBlank>=20 RegBlank> Has any tried patching their systems with the above mentioned pat= ch? RegBlank>=20 RegBlank> I got the following on both 3.5.x and 4.2 systems: RegBlank>=20 RegBlank> Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/lib/= libc RegBlank> cc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include RegBlank> -D__DBINTERFACE RegBlank> _PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/locale -DBRO= KEN_DES RegBlank> -DYP -c RegBlank> /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c -o glob.o RegBlank> /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c: In function `glob': RegBlank> /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: `GLOB_MAXPATH' undeclar= ed RegBlank> (first use t RegBlank> his function) RegBlank> /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: (Each undeclared identi= fier is RegBlank> reporte RegBlank> d only once RegBlank> /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:171: for each function it ap= pears RegBlank> in.) RegBlank> /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c: In function `globextend': RegBlank> /usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/gen/glob.c:689: `GLOB_LIMIT' undeclared= (first RegBlank> use thi RegBlank> s function) RegBlank> *** Error code 1 = =20 RegBlank>=20 RegBlank> Stop. RegBlank>=20 RegBlank> Did I miss something? Thanks. RegBlank>=20 RegBlank> Reg. I did it for mine and everything went fine. wash:~$ uname -sr FreeBSD 4.3-RC Maybe you downloaded in ASCII ??? I just pasted the whole "fetch ftp://ftp......" then patched. -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Rule of Defactualization: Information deteriorates upward through bureaucracies. --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD4DBQE63VJrn7LIsuxjem8RAvBzAJQM5d67kU9AcbQHRUJIRX5htntyAJ0VVIRz MzjjwXOW5CZwuwGBmMlgCw== =PMPt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 1:39:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8BF37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:39:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 669A766D8B; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:39:43 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: dotslash Cc: fq Subject: Re: What happened to 4.2-Stable via cvsup? Message-ID: <20010418013943.A27793@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <006d01c0c7d1$b63e91a0$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <006d01c0c7d1$b63e91a0$2903010a@atg.altayer.com>; from dotslash@linif.org on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:32:37AM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:32:37AM +0400, dotslash wrote: > I installed 4.2-Release from CD and wanting it to be 4.2-Stable I did a > cvsup (tag=3DRELENG_4) for the sources and was suprised to see after boot= ing > that I have 4.3-RC now. >=20 > What happened to 4.2-Stable? I thought that for those who want to follow > STABLE via cvsup this is the way to go. See the FAQ. Kris --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63VLPWry0BWjoQKURAiNDAJ9eGaguM7DB2OsuQLMCFfa+14hhwgCePJY9 ya0b/GSHeO5XGgSbYU/DwDg= =WEUd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 1:49:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D9537B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:49:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14pndE-000ISM-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:48:12 +0300 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:48:12 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: Philip Hallstrom Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: How to people easily update ports with dependencies (such as galeon)? Message-ID: <20010418114812.C66517@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , Philip Hallstrom , FBSD-Q References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XWOWbaMNXpFDWE00" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from "Philip Hallstrom" on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 07:33:08PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 11:38AM up 1 day, 18:02, 3 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.08, 0.09 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --XWOWbaMNXpFDWE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Philip Hallstrom [20010418 05:32]: writing on = the subject 'How to people easily update ports with dependencies (such as g= aleon)?' Philip> Hi all - Philip> I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on a painless way to Philip> update a port that has dependencies? Philip>=20 Philip> In my case, I currently have galeon-0.10.2 which requires glib-1.2.= 10. I Philip> currently have glib-1.2.8. The problem is I can remove my galeon p= ort, Philip> and install the new one, but installing the new one will install th= e new Philip> version of glib without removing the old one. Philip>=20 Philip> is there an easy way to tell it to remove any old ports of new vers= ions Philip> it's installing? Hi Philip, Since you've come up with this, lemme give my own view on it. I realized th= at other than a direct dependancy that you can point (i.e. by going into /usr/ports/www/gal= eon and doing 'make all-depends-list), you'll also find that there are cross dependancies= - that other than galeon depending on glib, other ports might also depend on it too. My = way of doing this has been to 'feel nothing' and just update (via make install) and let new v= ersions of dependancies install and I've always assumed that by letting things install= on the default location, they will always (overwrite???) the old files and as long as noth= ing breaks, I still feel nothing ;-)=20 If you always update your ports tree, via CVSUP or other means then you're = able to see why I take this contented position. Afterall, isn't the newer version much better= ...??? I don't know a painless way, anyway and I am sorry i might not have quite given you= an answer but I've never thought I should go and make all-depends-list, deinstall all dep= endancies then do make all install.....I've always assumed the relevant code will update t= he old pieces plus the binaries. I'll be happy to hear what views others express on this so please cc me if = you get any. Thanks -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Nasrudin walked into a shop one day, and the owner came forward to serve him. Nasrudin said, "First things first. Did you see me walk into your shop?" "Of course." "Have you ever seen me before?" "Never." "Then how do you know it was me?" --XWOWbaMNXpFDWE00 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63VTLn7LIsuxjem8RAjQmAKCkA4KCcnpPnSjah8Ip/lLyynn2owCfS4GH 9GX4qIySdUkRFHqTxlqzHKs= =dAo+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XWOWbaMNXpFDWE00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 1:49:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13705.mail.yahoo.com (web13705.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3BF437B43F for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:49:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd_ports@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010418084954.73803.qmail@web13705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.155.77.66] by web13705.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:49:54 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:49:54 -0700 (PDT) From: jayy sbastian Subject: dmesg log To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, i have FYI, xl0 on dmesg log. what is this, and how to remove it ? thank you, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 1:55:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from waterfall.typhoon.co.jp (waterfall.typhoon.co.jp [202.33.21.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E80837B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:55:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd@typhoon.co.jp) Received: from typhoon.co.jp (thunder.waterfall.typhoon.co.jp [192.168.3.23]) by waterfall.typhoon.co.jp (8.11.3/8.11.3/waterfall) with ESMTP id f3I8tp103357; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:55:51 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3ADD5695.C34C3D8@typhoon.co.jp> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:55:49 +0900 From: RegBlank X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,zh-TW,ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Odhiambo Washington Subject: Re: [Fwd: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-01:33.ftpd-glob] References: <3ADCFECF.C402A71D@typhoon.co.jp> <20010418113804.B66517@everest.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Odhiambo! Thanks for the response. Odhiambo Washington wrote: > ...skipped... > I did it for mine and everything went fine. > > wash:~$ uname -sr > FreeBSD 4.3-RC ----------^^^^^^ Loosk like your did NOT need the patch in the first place! The patch was for versions below 4.3RC. I read on Usenet that the patch to glob.h was missing... I'm now waiting for a re-release of the patch. Reg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 2: 0: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13606.mail.yahoo.com (web13606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E67037B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bzdik@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010418090001.43093.qmail@web13606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.16.193.228] by web13606.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:00:01 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:00:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: Re: Fw: What happened to 4.2-Stable via cvsup? To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <000d01c0c7d7$7a820010$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can't get through to Art Bell: the line is busy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 2: 0:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (CPE-61-9-138-203.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.138.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109F237B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:00:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3I90S001630; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:00:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Message-Id: <200104180900.f3I90S001630@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Sergeant" To: jayy sbastian , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dmesg log X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.3 On freebsd/mysql Date: 18 Apr 2001 04:00:26 EST Reply-To: "Mark Sergeant" In-Reply-To: <20010418084954.73803.qmail@web13705.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010418084954.73803.qmail@web13705.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Its your network card, take the nic out and it will disappear ;) On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:49:54 -0700 (PDT), jayy sbastian said: > Hello, i have FYI, xl0 on dmesg log. what is this, and > how to remove it ? > > thank you, > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- And this is a table ma'am. What in essence it consists of is a horizontal rectilinear plane surface maintained by four vertical columnar supports, which we call legs. The tables in this laboratory, ma'am, are as advanced in design as one will find anywhere in the world. -- Michael Frayn, "The Tin Men" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 2: 2: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web11502.mail.yahoo.com (web11502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BAFE37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raja_deshpande@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010418090159.85739.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.96.128.130] by web11502.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:01:59 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:01:59 -0700 (PDT) From: raja deshpande Subject: solaris8+isdn+netscape To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hallo Friends, i have some problem. My Hardware : Pendium III Motherboard + Pendium III 700 MHz CPU + Changable Harddisk > 2GB + intern Fritz Card ISDN + intern 3COM Ethernet Card. I dont have now any extern Modem. Software : On one Harddisk : Winnt 4.0 Serv. + Netscape -- it works ok with isdn card. : on another Harddisk : Solaris 8 + Solaris browser netscape : on third Harddisk : Solaris 7 + Solaris browser netscape I can use one Harddisk at a time. I have a Internet Provider + Login name + Password + telephone No. etc. But I do not have any Idea, how I can use Isdn under Solaris 7/8 and how I can use ISDN with Netscape under Solaris 7/8. I can use 3Com Net Card under Solaris 7 and ping or telnet or ftp with another pc with windows nt, linux in a lan. Can you please give me the Hints where I can find the necessary Information or if you have any Information, can you please send me as an attachment to the email. I thank you in advanced. Regards to you from Stuttgart-Germany. Raja Deshpande __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 2: 2:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lk.tempest.sk (lk.tempest.sk [195.28.100.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A374737B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:02:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lk@tempest.sk) Received: (from koren@localhost) by lk.tempest.sk (8.11.3/8.9.3) id f3I92cG94606; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:02:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from koren) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:02:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200104180902.f3I92cG94606@lk.tempest.sk> From: Ludo Koren To: fenix@c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20010418074448.17f62b0f.fenix@c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl> (message from Fenix on Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:44:48 +0200) Subject: Re: Gravis Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have Gravis Ultrasound (Non PnP) sound card in my box. How > to make this card to work?? > i've tried pcm drivers and gusc and nothing happens After trial and error for few days, the following options work for me: device snd device gus0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 9 drq 3 ludo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 2: 3:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (CPE-61-9-138-203.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.138.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6108637B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:03:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3I936001640; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:03:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Message-Id: <200104180903.f3I936001640@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Sergeant" To: raja deshpande , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: solaris8+isdn+netscape X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.3 On freebsd/mysql Date: 18 Apr 2001 04:03:05 EST Reply-To: "Mark Sergeant" In-Reply-To: <20010418090159.85739.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010418090159.85739.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My hint is try a solaris list and you'll do a bit better :) On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:01:59 -0700 (PDT), raja deshpande said: > Hallo Friends, > > > i have some problem. > > My Hardware : Pendium III Motherboard + Pendium III > > 700 MHz CPU + Changable Harddisk > 2GB + intern Fritz > > Card ISDN + intern 3COM Ethernet Card. > > I dont have now any extern Modem. > > Software : On one Harddisk : Winnt 4.0 Serv. + > Netscape -- it works ok with isdn card. > > : on another Harddisk : Solaris 8 + Solaris > browser netscape > > : on third Harddisk : Solaris 7 + Solaris > browser netscape > > I can use one Harddisk at a time. > > I have a Internet Provider + Login name + Password + > telephone No. etc. > > But I do not have any Idea, how I can use Isdn under > Solaris 7/8 and how I can use ISDN with Netscape under > Solaris 7/8. > > I can use 3Com Net Card under Solaris 7 and ping > or telnet or ftp with another pc with windows nt, > linux > in a lan. > > Can you please give me the Hints where I can find > the necessary Information or if you have any > Information, can you please send me as an attachment > to the email. > > I thank you in advanced. > > Regards to you from Stuttgart-Germany. > > Raja Deshpande > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- If God had intended Men to Smoke, He would have put Chimneys in their Heads. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 2: 6:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sapphire.hypostasis.com (210-54-89-147.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.54.89.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D4837B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:06:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kit@hypostasis.com) Received: from amethyst.hypostasis.com (amethyst.hypostasis.com [192.168.2.2]) by sapphire.hypostasis.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3I8htO07327; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:43:55 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from kit@amethyst.hypostasis.com) Received: (from kit@localhost) by amethyst.hypostasis.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3I9GLi74750; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:16:21 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from kit) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:16:21 +1200 From: kit To: Wayne Pascoe Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Modules + ipf Message-ID: <20010418211621.A74460@amethyst.hypostasis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:35:04AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:35:04AM +0100, Wayne Pascoe wrote: > I've just read the ipf security bulletin on Bugtraq, and I now need to > update ipf on all of my servers. > > I would appreciate any help with the following couple of questions: > > 1. How can I find out if ipf is currently running as a module, or as > part of my kernel? I think that it is part of my kernel as I have the > following lines in the bottom of my config : > options IPFILTER > options IPFILTER_LOG > kldstat should list the modules loaded, but you'd appear to have it compiled in anyway > 2. I understand that I have to recompile the kernel on all of my > servers to make this a module, but I'd rather not do a whole make > install process for ipfilter on each machine. Is there any way to > build it on one machine, and then farm that out to all the machines ? > for each different kernel conf make buildkernel KERNCONF= on the building machine make installkernel KERNCONF= on the others caveat I've had it work once and fail a couple of times before I figured out you need to mirror the directory structure and symlinks on the target machine mostly I tend to do an installworld on the target and build the whole kernel there the failures can all be attributable to pilot error If on your host you have say /usr/src -> /agent99/usr/src you will need to mount /agent99/usr/src on /agent99/usr/src on the target and recreate the symlink hth --kit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 2:20:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sapphire.hypostasis.com (210-54-89-147.ipnets.xtra.co.nz [210.54.89.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC9937B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:20:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kit@hypostasis.com) Received: from amethyst.hypostasis.com (amethyst.hypostasis.com [192.168.2.2]) by sapphire.hypostasis.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3I8vYO07350; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:57:35 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from kit@amethyst.hypostasis.com) Received: (from kit@localhost) by amethyst.hypostasis.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3I9U0w74859; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:30:00 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from kit) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:29:59 +1200 From: kit To: Roelof Osinga Cc: kit , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSL certificate signing Message-ID: <20010418212959.B74460@amethyst.hypostasis.com> References: <20010416160832.A35693@amethyst.hypostasis.com> <3ADB6215.DDCFC41F@nisser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ADB6215.DDCFC41F@nisser.com>; from roelof@nisser.com on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:20:21PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Roelof Thanks for that I got there in the end with CA.pl -newca and openssl ca -config /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf -out server.crt \ -infiles server.csr modified from sign.sh Once I'd _actually_ read the openssl.cnf file to understand what it was pointing to in relation to what CA.pl -newca created. now I just need to do it again and take notes :) I seem to have gotten randomly unsubscribed from -questions probably due to a messy ISP change so I may have missed other comments on this one thanks again --kit On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:20:21PM +0200, Roelof Osinga wrote: > kit wrote: > > > > Hi > > I was looking for the CA.pl et al. to sign a certificate for internal > > use. In the process I discovered that also the man pages were > > selective in their install - OK that seems to be controlled by > > ... > > Yeah, things've changed. There used to be a CA.pl and CA.sh, now > there ain't. > > However, all is not lost: > > nl:/usr/local/etc/postfix% locate CA.pl > /usr/src/crypto/openssl/apps/CA.pl > /usr/src/crypto/openssl/apps/CA.pl.in > /usr/src/crypto/openssl/doc/apps/CA.pl.pod > > But don't ask me what I did and did not install ;). > > Well... "apache+mod_ssl-1.3.17+2.8.0" anywayz. On a 4.2-STABLE. > > HTH, > > Roelof > > -- > Home is where the (@) http://eboa.com/ is. > Nisser home -- http://nl.nisser.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 2:49: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B7F37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:49:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@weeble.org.uk) Received: from josep.demon.co.uk ([194.222.61.233] helo=doubtful.weeble.foo.uk) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14poa7-000Lqi-0X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:49:03 +0100 Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by doubtful.weeble.foo.uk (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3I9n1v10186 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:49:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from tim@weeble.org.uk) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:49:01 +0100 (BST) From: Tim Joseph X-X-Sender: To: Subject: PCMCIA NE2000 (Kingston KNE-PC2) Message-ID: <20010418104620.Y10184-100000@doubtful.weeble.foo.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Are PCMCIA NE2000 clones supported under FreeBSD 4.2/3? I know that they work under OpenBSD 2.8 (including installation). Thanks in adavance. From, Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 2:51:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13708.mail.yahoo.com (web13708.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DD5C37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:51:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd_ports@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010418095130.47319.qmail@web13708.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.155.77.66] by web13708.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:51:30 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:51:30 -0700 (PDT) From: jayy sbastian Subject: Re: dmesg log To: Mark Sergeant , questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200104180900.f3I90S001630@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you Mr. Mark, Btw, i have a message error on booting. like this: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 0 retrying ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 0 retrying ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 0 retrying ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 0 falling back to PIO mode ad1: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 0 retrying ad1: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 0 retrying ad1: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 0 retrying ad1: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 0 falling back to PIO mode what can i do? ==================================== --- Mark Sergeant wrote: > Its your network card, take the nic out and it will > disappear ;) > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:49:54 -0700 (PDT), jayy > sbastian said: > > > Hello, i have FYI, xl0 on dmesg log. what is this, > and > > how to remove it ? > > > > thank you, > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 3: 7:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F7F237B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:07:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 16632 invoked by uid 100); 18 Apr 2001 10:07:32 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.26468.279995.42083@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:07:32 -0500 To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <64762482@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeremiah Gowdy types: > As for the AMD+SMP vs Intel+SMP, I can't say regarding the FreeBSD support, > however, AMD's SMP is supposed to be far faster than Intel's because it has > a Point-to-Point bus for the SMP connection, meaning _each_ CPU has a > dedicated 200mhz (100mhz DDR) connection to the bus, when on an Intel SMP > motherboard the two or more cpus will share the same 100mhz bus. That means > on a 4 way SMP Intel system, each cpu will get an effective 25mhz access to > the bus under full load in theory. By the same theory, AMD cpus would each > have their own 200mhz dedicated connection to the bus, even in an 8 cpu > setup. You're talking about the speed of the connection to the bus, without talking about the speed of the bus. If the bus in question is 100MHz, then in any 4-cpu system at full load, each cpu will have at most 25MHz on the bus, never mind that their connection to the bus is 200MHz. So you've just spent 4 times the amount on cpu bus hardware for no gain in performance. If the bus is 133MHz, then each cpu can get 33MHz on the bus on a loaded system, and the shared connection to the bus causes a problem. There may be something obvious I've overlooked - in which case, I'm sure I'll be told about it. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 3:14: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C398337B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:13:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 16791 invoked by uid 100); 18 Apr 2001 10:13:58 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.26854.296346.878892@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:13:58 -0500 To: Greg Lehey Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Procmail rule In-Reply-To: <34660157@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [I'd reply to the original author, but I don't have the addres.....] Greg Lehey types: > On Tuesday, 17 April 2001 at 10:48:08 -0400, Joel Dinel wrote: > > I'm looking for a very basic procmail rule that will reply to *every* > > mail sent to a user with something like "Out of the office - back > > monday". > Please don't send replies of this nature to mailing lists. That's a particularly stupid way to handle sending out of office notifications. Even if the user in question is has nothing but internal email, do you *really* want your mail spool filled up because someone sent out mail saying "I'm now on vacation" to everyone - including someone how has that rule installed - after installing the rule? The vacation program (in /usr/bin on FreeBSD) does a much better job. For instance, it ignores mail to lists. It also keeps track of who's been sent the "Out of Office" message, and doesn't send multiple copies - which pretty much prevents loops as above. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 3:16:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A827337B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:16:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14pp0c-0003mK-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:16:26 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IAGPO07155; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:16:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:16:25 +0100 From: Rasputin To: Trevin Chow Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ARP message filling my logs Message-ID: <20010418111625.A7060@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010417151823.0252c918@mail.geektank.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010417151823.0252c918@mail.geektank.org>; from tmchow@sfu.ca on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:19:52PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Trevin Chow [010417 23:15]: > Hi, > > I'm getting these messages from my ISP's 2 nameservers. The messages are > constantly flooding > my console terminal and I'd like the insanity to stop :) > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.1 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > on fxp0 > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > on fxp0 > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 to 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe > on fxp0 > > Why the heck would the MAC address keep changing? Two machines with the same IP? -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 3:18:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7205137B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:18:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 16908 invoked by uid 100); 18 Apr 2001 10:18:24 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.27120.893659.761365@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:18:24 -0500 To: Andrew Nesbit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to automatically update /usr/share/doc In-Reply-To: <11301369@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew Nesbit types: > hi... I've been successfully doing cvsup's and rebuilding the system, but now > my /usr/share/doc directory is out of date (in particular, the handbook). > > Is there any way of getting cvsup (or some other program) to automatically > keep this stuff up to date? /usr/share/doc is built from source, just like /bin, /usr/bin, and similar things. To get the sources, you need to cvsup the doc set. See /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile for an example of how to do that. To build the stuff, you need to install the docproj meta port. The readme in /usr/doc/README (after you've supped the doc sources) provides a pointer to documentation on the build process. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 3:23: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3C137B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:23:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14pp6x-0003tH-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:22:59 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IAMwJ07252; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:22:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:22:58 +0100 From: Rasputin To: Alvin Sim Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stop ppp dialing on boot Message-ID: <20010418112258.A7234@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk>; from bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:22:32AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Alvin Sim [010418 04:20]: > Hello list, > > i have been searching around for a way to stop ppp from dialing when > the machine boots up but so far, i cannot say that i have found an > answer. hopefully someone here can help me out :) Find out what's bringing up the line. Chances are one of your daemons does a DNS test or similar when it starts up. -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 3:23:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8243337B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:23:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from j34.kch12.jaring.my (HELO as2.kptn.org) (161.142.230.48) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 10:23:10 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:28:05 +0800 From: Alvin Sim X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52 Beta/4) Reply-To: Alvin Sim Organization: n/a X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1681539113.20010418182805@yahoo.co.uk> To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re[4]: stop ppp dialing on boot In-Reply-To: <049401c0c7c8$db4c2100$548d093d@oracle> References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> <044501c0c7b6$d5e98480$548d093d@oracle> <868976537.20010418121257@yahoo.co.uk> <049401c0c7c8$db4c2100$548d093d@oracle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 01:31:44 PM, Doug Young wrote: DY> I understood from the subject line that you DIDN'T want it to dial on boot you are right on the subject but... i _do_ want it to dial when the server sees/senses/detects any outbound (i.e. to the 'net) traffic from my 2 other machines but _not_ upon booting up. otherwise, the server will just sit there quietly and _not_ connect if no one is trying to get to the 'net. sure i can telnet/ssh into the server and do a 'ppp -auto provider' but the other person does not. does that make any sense? or is there a better way of doing this? i'm re-inserting my whole rc.conf file & ppp.conf if its going to help any... below. [...snip...] >> Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 11:22:44 AM, Doug Young wrote: >> DY> I'd start by commenting out those last four lines >> >> [...snip...] >> >> well, it doesnt dial out when the last four lines below is commented >> out, as i previously stated below. any more suggestions? >> >> i have a very simple lan comprising of a fbsd server (4.3-rc) that >> serves as a gateway to 2 other machines running ntws and 98. ppp is >> configured and i can dial 'ppp -auto provider' w/ no problems from a >> ssh session from nt (telnet is disabled). now, this seems very >> unconventional that i have to make a ssh session everytime i want to >> connect to my isp. furthermore, the person behind the machine running >> 98 has zero knowledge of doing anything of that sort (i.e. telnet, >> ssh... ) >> >> ok, so i set up ppp to dial when there's a connection going out of my >> lan when the system boots up. but... somehow, it dials everytime it >> boots up instead of when it detects an outbound connection from my >> lan. and i dont want that (dialing upon booting up) since i'm >> charged on a per-minute dialup basis. anyways, i'm including part my >> rc.conf config if someone can have a look at it and tell me where i >> did wrong. >> start my rc.conf =========================================================== ############## # rc.conf # ### Basic network: ### network_interfaces="lo0 rl0" ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" hostname="hostname.domain.org" # ### Network routing options: ### gateway_enable="YES" router_enable="NO" defaultrouter="NO" forward_sourceroute="NO" accept_sourceroute="NO" tcp_drop_synfin="NO" tcp_restrict_rst="NO" # # IPv6 settings ipv6_enable="NO" # firewall_enable="YES" firewall_script="/etc/firewall/script" firewall_type="open" firewall_quite="YES" # # NAT settings natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="tun0" natd_flags="-dynamic" # # User ppp configuration. ppp_enable="YES" ppp_mode="auto" ppp_nat="NO" ppp_profile="provider" ### Network daemon (miscellaneous) & NFS options: ### # # Enable inetd and logging inetd_enable="NO" inetd_flags="-l -R 30" # # NFS settings portmap_enable="NO" nfs_server_enable="NO" nfs_server_flags="-u -t -n 4" nfs_client_enable="NO" nfs_client_flags="-n 4" mountd_flags="-r" # # SSH Daemon options #sshd_enable="NO" # Enable sshd #sshd_program="/usr/sbin/sshd" # path to sshd, if you want a different one. #sshd_flags="" # Additional flags for sshd. # # DNS options named_enable="NO" nisdomainname="NO" # # Sendmail Daemon options sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_flags="-bd" # # QUOTA settings check_quotas="NO" # # Miscellaneous settings moused_enable="NO" saver="daemon" keyrate="fast" local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d" pccard_enable="NO" pccard_ifconfig="NO" pccard_mem="DEFAULT" =========================================================== end my rc.conf start my ppp.conf =========================================================== ################################################################# # PPP Sample Configuration File # Originally written by Toshiharu OHNO # Simplified 5/14/1999 by wself@cdrom.com # # $FreeBSD: src/etc/ppp/ppp.conf,v 1.2 1999/08/27 23:24:08 peter Exp $ ################################################################# default: allow users ntuser 98user # nat enable yes # # From the FreeBSD Handbook, Sect. 16.2.1.5.3 - Receiving Incoming Calls # Enabling packet forwarding in local LAN # enable proxy set device /dev/cuaa0 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command set speed 115200 disable pred1 deny pred1 disable lqr deny lqr set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0L0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 120 CONNECT" provider: set authname _AUTHNAME_ set authkey _AUTHKEY_ set phone _123456_ set timeout 120 set openmode active accept chap set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR enable dns =========================================================== end my ppp.conf >> if ppp_enable="NO", i then have to manually dial. if ppp_enable="YES", >> it dials on booting up :( so, how can i make it dial ONLY when it >> detects an outbound traffic? thanks for looking into this. -- Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 3:29:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f33.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A2437B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:29:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from venugopalaml@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:29:36 -0700 Received: from 203.200.20.22 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:29:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.200.20.22] From: "Venugopal M.L." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:59:35 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2001 10:29:36.0767 (UTC) FILETIME=[778630F0:01C0C7F2] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi How can we able to Translate IPv4 to IPv6 using NAT-PT? Can you please give me the code? Thanks _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 3:52:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin5.bigpond.com (juicer02.bigpond.com [139.134.6.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E90537B43C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:52:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.56]) by mailin5.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GBZIF900.7D1; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:57:09 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-141-84.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.141.84]) by mail3.bigpond.com (Claudes-Self-Aware-MailRouter V2.9c 5/3755931); 18 Apr 2001 20:51:53 Message-ID: <05df01c0c7f5$980ae660$548d093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Alvin Sim" , "FreeBSD Questions" Cc: "Rasputin" References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> <044501c0c7b6$d5e98480$548d093d@oracle> <868976537.20010418121257@yahoo.co.uk> <049401c0c7c8$db4c2100$548d093d@oracle> <1681539113.20010418182805@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: Re[4]: stop ppp dialing on boot Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:51:56 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doesn't appear to be anything in rc.conf causing the problem .... is ntpd installed or maybe something else in rc.d is involved ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvin Sim" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 8:28 PM Subject: Re[4]: stop ppp dialing on boot > Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 01:31:44 PM, Doug Young wrote: > > DY> I understood from the subject line that you DIDN'T want it to dial on boot > > you are right on the subject but... i _do_ want it to dial when the > server sees/senses/detects any outbound (i.e. to the 'net) traffic from > my 2 other machines but _not_ upon booting up. otherwise, the server > will just sit there quietly and _not_ connect if no one is trying to get > to the 'net. sure i can telnet/ssh into the server and do a 'ppp -auto > provider' but the other person does not. does that make any sense? or > is there a better way of doing this? > > i'm re-inserting my whole rc.conf file & ppp.conf if its going to help > any... below. > > [...snip...] > > >> Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 11:22:44 AM, Doug Young wrote: > >> > DY> I'd start by commenting out those last four lines > >> > >> [...snip...] > >> > >> well, it doesnt dial out when the last four lines below is commented > >> out, as i previously stated below. any more suggestions? > >> > >> i have a very simple lan comprising of a fbsd server (4.3-rc) that > >> serves as a gateway to 2 other machines running ntws and 98. ppp is > >> configured and i can dial 'ppp -auto provider' w/ no problems from a > >> ssh session from nt (telnet is disabled). now, this seems very > >> unconventional that i have to make a ssh session everytime i want to > >> connect to my isp. furthermore, the person behind the machine running > >> 98 has zero knowledge of doing anything of that sort (i.e. telnet, > >> ssh... ) > >> > >> ok, so i set up ppp to dial when there's a connection going out of my > >> lan when the system boots up. but... somehow, it dials everytime it > >> boots up instead of when it detects an outbound connection from my > >> lan. and i dont want that (dialing upon booting up) since i'm > >> charged on a per-minute dialup basis. anyways, i'm including part my > >> rc.conf config if someone can have a look at it and tell me where i > >> did wrong. > >> > start my rc.conf > =========================================================== > ############## > # rc.conf > # > ### Basic network: ### > network_interfaces="lo0 rl0" > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > hostname="hostname.domain.org" > > # > ### Network routing options: ### > gateway_enable="YES" > router_enable="NO" > defaultrouter="NO" > forward_sourceroute="NO" > accept_sourceroute="NO" > tcp_drop_synfin="NO" > tcp_restrict_rst="NO" > > # > # IPv6 settings > ipv6_enable="NO" > > # > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_script="/etc/firewall/script" > firewall_type="open" > firewall_quite="YES" > > # > # NAT settings > natd_enable="YES" > natd_interface="tun0" > natd_flags="-dynamic" > > # > # User ppp configuration. > ppp_enable="YES" > ppp_mode="auto" > ppp_nat="NO" > ppp_profile="provider" > > ### Network daemon (miscellaneous) & NFS options: ### > # > # Enable inetd and logging > inetd_enable="NO" > inetd_flags="-l -R 30" > > # > # NFS settings > portmap_enable="NO" > nfs_server_enable="NO" > nfs_server_flags="-u -t -n 4" > nfs_client_enable="NO" > nfs_client_flags="-n 4" > mountd_flags="-r" > > # > # SSH Daemon options > #sshd_enable="NO" # Enable sshd > #sshd_program="/usr/sbin/sshd" # path to sshd, if you want a different one. > #sshd_flags="" # Additional flags for sshd. > > # > # DNS options > named_enable="NO" > nisdomainname="NO" > > # > # Sendmail Daemon options > sendmail_enable="NO" > sendmail_flags="-bd" > > # > # QUOTA settings > check_quotas="NO" > > # > # Miscellaneous settings > moused_enable="NO" > saver="daemon" > keyrate="fast" > local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d" > pccard_enable="NO" > pccard_ifconfig="NO" > pccard_mem="DEFAULT" > =========================================================== > end my rc.conf > > start my ppp.conf > =========================================================== > ################################################################# > # PPP Sample Configuration File > # Originally written by Toshiharu OHNO > # Simplified 5/14/1999 by wself@cdrom.com > # > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/ppp/ppp.conf,v 1.2 1999/08/27 23:24:08 peter Exp $ > ################################################################# > > default: > > allow users ntuser 98user > # nat enable yes > # > # From the FreeBSD Handbook, Sect. 16.2.1.5.3 - Receiving Incoming Calls > # Enabling packet forwarding in local LAN > # enable proxy > > set device /dev/cuaa0 > set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command > set speed 115200 > disable pred1 > deny pred1 > disable lqr > deny lqr > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0L0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 120 CONNECT" > > provider: > set authname _AUTHNAME_ > set authkey _AUTHKEY_ > set phone _123456_ > set timeout 120 > set openmode active > accept chap > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 > add default HISADDR > enable dns > =========================================================== > end my ppp.conf > > > >> if ppp_enable="NO", i then have to manually dial. if ppp_enable="YES", > >> it dials on booting up :( so, how can i make it dial ONLY when it > >> detects an outbound traffic? thanks for looking into this. > > > -- > Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 3:56:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BB437B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:56:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from revghost8@dingoblue.net.au) Received: from win2kbox (sdcax54-008.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.208.8]) by mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3IAuXO00548 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:56:33 +1000 Message-ID: <000801c0c7f6$0d80c900$0200a8c0@win2kbox> From: "Matthew King" To: Subject: Users Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:55:15 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C849.DE7262A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C849.DE7262A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, i was wondering, is there a way i can give my users (/usr/home) FTP = access but now telnet access? 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C849.DE7262A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 4:17: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web12006.mail.yahoo.com (web12006.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D782D37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd2000au@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20010418111658.55676.qmail@web12006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.80.67.74] by web12006.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:16:58 EST Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:16:58 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?k=20s?= Subject: Re: netgraph(4) ? (3) ? Thankyou all! To: freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <15069.12364.796723.117038@guru.mired.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for being kind to me! I can't believe I have not known that. Obviously a classic RTFM situation guys. On Tuesday 17 April 2001 09:39, keith spencer wrote: > Hi all, > here is a bit of classic ignorance for you....bla bla >Netgraph(3) bla bla _____________________________________________________________________________ http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - Now showing: Dude Where's My Car, The Wedding Planner, Traffic.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 4:26:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ruby.he.net (ruby.he.net [216.218.187.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652A937B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:26:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from corten8.billschoolcraft.com (adsl-63-193-247-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.247.201]) by ruby.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with ESMTP id EAA00987; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:26:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:21:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-Sender: To: raja deshpande Cc: Subject: Re: solaris8+isdn+netscape In-Reply-To: <20010418090159.85739.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: System-ID: [en] (I; SunOS 5.8 i86pc) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Wed, 18 Apr 2001 it looks like raja deshpande composed: > Can you please give me the Hints where I can find > the necessary Information or if you have any > Information, can you please send me as an attachment > to the email. > http://www.science.uva.nl/pub/solaris/solaris2.html -- |<----------------------------72_Characters--------------------------->| Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ "UNIX, A Way Of Life." _\_v http://forwardslashunix.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 4:30:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web12002.mail.yahoo.com (web12002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5384937B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:30:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd2000au@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20010418113048.37789.qmail@web12002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.80.67.74] by web12002.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:30:48 EST Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:30:48 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?k=20s?= Subject: pppoe seems to panic my kernal? Whoa! To: freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <15069.12364.796723.117038@guru.mired.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi good people, I am desperately trying to steer away from trying to connection share my ADSL on a Win* ( star???) machine. That is what FreeBSD is so good at (among a gazillion other things). I have RTFM about pppoe and done the following: checked kernel and... a) made sure tun pseudo devices exist b) added options NETGRAPH rebuilt kernel. rebooted and checked devices exists... a) fxp0 b) tun0 (c) I will add another internal network nic for this gateway later! I just want to get adsl working first) created a ppp.conf script as required. plugged her in , ppp and... a) initiated ppp shell (terminology correct?) ok b) dial myisp and the kernel page fault panics! Every time. Seems to load netgraph and then caks it's underpants! What I did to attempt to resolve... a) checked kernal file was ok and I didn't screw up. b) rebuilt kernel again...otherwise never panics. c) check ppp.conf script No worky! Anyone struck the problem? What do you need from me that would help you help me? The machine had been using a dialup sharing setup and it has not given me problems! Trying to do ADSL with pppoe and YUK. Any help is appreciated and a damn site more than I am giving myself at the moment Regards Keith Spencer Loser in cyberspace at the moment. _____________________________________________________________________________ http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - Now showing: Dude Where's My Car, The Wedding Planner, Traffic.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 4:30:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [194.205.134.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C108A37B43C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:30:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waynep@zaphod.realtime.co.uk) Received: from zaphod.realtime.co.uk ([194.205.134.208]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14pqAO-0000Nz-01; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:30:36 +0100 Received: from waynep by zaphod.realtime.co.uk with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14pqAa-000Npk-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:30:48 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: kit Cc: , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Modules + ipf References: <20010418211621.A74460@amethyst.hypostasis.com> Reply-To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Date: 18 Apr 2001 12:30:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20010418211621.A74460@amethyst.hypostasis.com> Message-ID: Lines: 49 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kit writes: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:35:04AM +0100, Wayne Pascoe wrote: > > I've just read the ipf security bulletin on Bugtraq, and I now need to > > update ipf on all of my servers. > > > > I would appreciate any help with the following couple of questions: > > > > 1. How can I find out if ipf is currently running as a module, or as > > part of my kernel? I think that it is part of my kernel as I have the > > following lines in the bottom of my config : > > options IPFILTER > > options IPFILTER_LOG > > > kldstat > should list the modules loaded, > but you'd appear to have it compiled in anyway Yeah, I do... Grrr... How do I compile the ipf kernel module then instead of compiling it into the kernel? As I understand it, ipf needs a kernel module / compiled into the kernel as well as a userspace binary... Is this correct ? > > > 2. I understand that I have to recompile the kernel on all of my > > servers to make this a module, but I'd rather not do a whole make > > install process for ipfilter on each machine. Is there any way to > > build it on one machine, and then farm that out to all the > > machines ? > > > for each different kernel conf > make buildkernel KERNCONF= > on the building machine > make installkernel KERNCONF= Is there no way to just build a healthy kernel and copy that kernel to each machine ? That would be my preference... scp /kernel machine:/kernel.new Doable ? -- - Wayne Pascoe E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 4:46:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.riic.uni-linz.ac.at (mail.riic.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.161.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B66B37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:46:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hueber@riic.at) Received: from riic.uni-linz.ac.at (hawkings.riic.uni-linz.ac.at [140.78.161.239]) by mail.riic.uni-linz.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19027; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:41:54 +0200 Message-ID: <3ADD7D80.656F43FB@riic.uni-linz.ac.at> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:41:52 +0200 From: Gernot Hueber X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: k s Cc: freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pppoe seems to panic my kernal? Whoa! References: <20010418113048.37789.qmail@web12002.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you sure your nic is UP? I had mysterious crashes, too. After I added the NIC to rc.conf everything was perfect (ifconfic NIC IP up should also work. Gernot k s schrieb: > Hi good people, > I am desperately trying to steer away from trying to > connection share my ADSL on a Win* ( star???) machine. > That is what FreeBSD is so good at (among a gazillion > other things). I have RTFM about pppoe and done the > following: > checked kernel and... > a) made sure tun pseudo devices exist > b) added options NETGRAPH > rebuilt kernel. > > rebooted and checked devices exists... > a) fxp0 > b) tun0 > (c) I will add another internal network nic for this > gateway later! I just want to get adsl working first) > > created a ppp.conf script as required. > plugged her in , ppp and... > a) initiated ppp shell (terminology correct?) ok > b) dial myisp > and the kernel page fault panics! Every time. > Seems to load netgraph and then caks it's underpants! > > What I did to attempt to resolve... > a) checked kernal file was ok and I didn't screw up. > b) rebuilt kernel again...otherwise never panics. > c) check ppp.conf script > No worky! > Anyone struck the problem? > What do you need from me that would help you help me? > The machine had been using a dialup sharing setup and > it has not given me problems! > Trying to do ADSL with pppoe and YUK. > Any help is appreciated and a damn site more than I am > giving myself at the moment > Regards > Keith Spencer > Loser in cyberspace at the moment. > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies > - Now showing: Dude Where's My Car, The Wedding Planner, Traffic.. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Dipl.-Ing. Gernot Hueber Institut für Integrierte Schaltungen Freistädter Strasse 315/2 A-4040 Linz Tel: +43 732 2468-7122, Fax: -7126 E-mail: hueber@riic.at To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 4:50:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from joule.excelsus.com (w227.z064000119.buf-ny.dsl.cnc.net [64.0.119.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCBF37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from weldon@excelsus.com) Received: from localhost (weldon@localhost) by joule.excelsus.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00712; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:49:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:49:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Weldon S Godfrey 3 To: janaharan.balasingam@nokia.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: rebooting problems - Compaq EN Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I didn't see the solution in the archives so in case you are still having problems. A possible solution to: (posted Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:55:39) Hello, I installed FreeBSD 4.1 on a Compaq Deskpro EN. When I type reboot it syncs disk and hangs after it says "Rebooting". It does not do this for FreeBSD 2.2.8. Can you tell me what's wrong and what I have to do to fix this. Thanks. Is: Upgrade your BIOS with the latest ROMpaq from compaq's website. I just got a Compaq Deskpro EN PII-400 from an auction and it was doing the exact same thing. I flashed the BIOS and the "locking-up" at rebooting after it had synced the disks went away. Also (off topic), near the DIMM slots is a set of switches labeled "SW1". Switch 6 controls power-on when power is applied. The factory setting for this switch is "OFF". You will want to be set to "ON" so that, if the unit looses power, it will come back on when the power comes back on. Weldon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 4:53: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin6.bigpond.com (juicer03.bigpond.com [139.134.6.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1B937B621 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:52:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.54]) by mailin6.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GBYXMI00.F7C; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:27:54 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-141-84.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.141.84]) by mail6.bigpond.com (Claudes-Revolutionary-MailRouter V2.9c 11/3647991); 18 Apr 2001 13:22:39 Message-ID: <044501c0c7b6$d5e98480$548d093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Alvin Sim" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: stop ppp dialing on boot Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:22:44 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd start by commenting out those last four lines ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvin Sim" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 1:22 PM Subject: stop ppp dialing on boot > Hello list, > > i have been searching around for a way to stop ppp from dialing when > the machine boots up but so far, i cannot say that i have found an > answer. hopefully someone here can help me out :) > > i have a very simple lan comprising of a fbsd server (4.3-rc) that > serves as a gateway to 2 other machines running ntws and 98. ppp is > configured and i can dial 'ppp -auto provider' w/ no problems from a > ssh session from nt (telnet is disabled). now, this seems very > unconventional that i have to make a ssh session everytime i want to > connect to my isp. furthermore, the person behind the machine running > 98 has zero knowledge of doing anything of that sort (i.e. telnet, > ssh... ) > > ok, so i set up ppp to dial when there's a connection going out of my > lan when the system boots up. but... somehow, it dials everytime it > boots up instead of when it detects an outbound connection from my > lan. and i dont want that (dialing upon booting up) since i'm > charged on a per-minute dialup basis. anyways, i'm including part my > rc.conf config if someone can have a look at it and tell me where i > did wrong. > > start my rc.conf > =========================================================== > > # > ### Basic network: ### > network_interfaces="lo0 rl0" > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > hostname="my.domain.org" > > # > ### Network routing options: ### > gateway_enable="YES" > router_enable="NO" > defaultrouter="NO" > forward_sourceroute="NO" > accept_sourceroute="NO" > tcp_drop_synfin="NO" # Set to YES to drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN > tcp_restrict_rst="NO" # Set to YES to restrict emission of RST > > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_type="open" > firewall_quite="YES" > natd_enable="YES" > natd_interface="tun0" > natd_flags="-dynamic" > > # > # User ppp configuration. > ppp_enable="YES" > ppp_mode="auto" > ppp_nat="NO" > ppp_profile="provider" > > =========================================================== > end my rc.conf > > > if ppp_enable="NO", i then have to manually dial. if ppp_enable="YES", > it dials on booting up :( so, how can i make it dial ONLY when it > detects an outbound traffic? thanks for looking into this. > > > -- > Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 4:58: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 28AC937B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:58:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from j9.kch8.jaring.my (HELO as2.kptn.org) (161.142.221.79) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 11:57:59 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:53:08 +0800 From: Alvin Sim X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52 Beta/4) Reply-To: Alvin Sim Organization: n/a X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1626642190.20010418195308@yahoo.co.uk> To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re[6]: stop ppp dialing on boot In-Reply-To: <05df01c0c7f5$980ae660$548d093d@oracle> References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> <044501c0c7b6$d5e98480$548d093d@oracle> <868976537.20010418121257@yahoo.co.uk> <049401c0c7c8$db4c2100$548d093d@oracle> <1681539113.20010418182805@yahoo.co.uk> <05df01c0c7f5$980ae660$548d093d@oracle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 06:51:56 PM, Doug Young wrote: DY> Doesn't appear to be anything in rc.conf causing the DY> problem .... is ntpd installed or maybe something else DY> in rc.d is involved ?? ntpd is not installed and, as i've mentioned in my other post to Rasputin, the only ones in rc.d that i suspect are causing a lookup are samba and apache. if you dont mind, please have a look at my other message to Rasputin. [...snip...] [...snip all...] thanks for the patience too :) -- Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 4:58: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D84A037B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:58:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from j9.kch8.jaring.my (HELO as2.kptn.org) (161.142.221.79) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 11:58:01 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:53:15 +0800 From: Alvin Sim X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52 Beta/4) Reply-To: Alvin Sim Organization: n/a X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1076649851.20010418195315@yahoo.co.uk> To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re[2]: stop ppp dialing on boot In-Reply-To: <20010418112258.A7234@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> <20010418112258.A7234@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 06:22:58 PM, Rasputin wrote: R> * Alvin Sim [010418 04:20]: >> Hello list, >> >> i have been searching around for a way to stop ppp from dialing when >> the machine boots up but so far, i cannot say that i have found an >> answer. hopefully someone here can help me out :) R> Find out what's bringing up the line. R> Chances are one of your daemons does a DNS test or similar when it starts up. this just might be it but... how do i see which is starting up the dns test search? i have `inetd' disabled in rc.conf and the only thing thats in /usr/local/etc/rc.d are: as1# ll /usr/local/etc/rc.d total 4 -rwxr-x--x 1 root wheel 434 Apr 16 02:00 apache.sh -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 392 Apr 4 08:16 samba.sh -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 392 Apr 3 11:35 samba.sh.sample -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 454 Apr 8 23:00 sshd.sh as1# apache can go but not samba or sshd. could it be samba doing a lookup? if so, how can i disable samba from doing so during startup? also, i would normally get an intermittent 'annoyance' from `arplookup' spewing these: Apr 18 09:37:26 as1 /kernel: arplookup 10.0.0.2 failed: could not allocate llinfo where 10.0.0.2 is my nt machine. it could be this thats trigerring the dialup. but how do i disable it? i know i maybe asking a bit too much but i hope you'd understand that i'm only using freebsd for a month and a half. thanks for the patience... in advance :) -- Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 5: 7:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web12003.mail.yahoo.com (web12003.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFFA537B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:07:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bukkyoluranti@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010418120709.84329.qmail@web12003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.198.240.90] by web12003.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:07:09 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:07:09 -0700 (PDT) From: bukky oluwaranti Subject: Internet access To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sir, Our company is a big Insurance company having about 150 workstation on a Netware 4.01 driven LAN. We presently have Internet connectivity through an ISP using direct Radio Link. All workstations are able to hook unto the Internet via a FreeBSD-based Network Address Translator (NAT) server. Our desire is to control indiscriminate Internet usage. Can you please advise me on how to go about this Internet access control to prevent staffs from having access/ surfing Internet during office hour. Thank you. A. T. Giwa (IT Manager). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 5: 9:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mg03.austin.ibm.com (mg03.austin.ibm.com [192.35.232.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AE037B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:09:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfavor@austin.ibm.com) Received: from austin.ibm.com (netmail1.austin.ibm.com [9.53.250.96]) by mg03.austin.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16946 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:11:35 -0500 From: dfavor@austin.ibm.com Received: from aasc24.austin.ibm.com (aasc24.austin.ibm.com [9.53.154.201]) by austin.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA32650 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:09:38 -0500 Received: (from dfavor@localhost) by aasc24.austin.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.7-client1.01) id HAA29598 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:09:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:09:37 -0500 Message-Id: <200104181209.HAA29598@aasc24.austin.ibm.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Threads on FreeBSD 4.2 - How to install? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to get libpthreads working under FreeBSD 4.2 and have found (on www.FreeBSD.org) the threads package: linuxthreads-2.1.3_2.tgz My questions are: 1) I use a Web hosting service uninformed about how to install this package and this is my first time using FreeBSD. Let me know the steps involved in installing this package. 2) If I am unable to convince my Web hosting service to install this package, let me know the steps to use libpthreads in my virtual server space. a) Just copy *.a and *.h to .../lib and .../include respectively? b) Any changes to how compiler is run? Funny flags? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 5:18:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin7.bigpond.com (juicer38.bigpond.com [139.134.6.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D3937B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:18:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.50]) by mailin7.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GBZMFK00.40T; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:23:44 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-141-84.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.141.84]) by mail8.bigpond.com (Claudes-Uncompromising-MailRouter V2.9c 17/3529612); 18 Apr 2001 22:18:32 Message-ID: <064f01c0c801$b0b924e0$548d093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Alvin Sim" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> <20010418112258.A7234@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <1076649851.20010418195315@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: Re[2]: stop ppp dialing on boot Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:18:34 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG my guess would be apache rather than samba ... have you tried " /apachectl stop" to confirm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvin Sim" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:53 PM Subject: Re[2]: stop ppp dialing on boot > Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 06:22:58 PM, Rasputin wrote: > > R> * Alvin Sim [010418 04:20]: > >> Hello list, > >> > >> i have been searching around for a way to stop ppp from dialing when > >> the machine boots up but so far, i cannot say that i have found an > >> answer. hopefully someone here can help me out :) > > R> Find out what's bringing up the line. > R> Chances are one of your daemons does a DNS test or similar when it starts up. > > this just might be it but... how do i see which is starting up the > dns test search? i have `inetd' disabled in rc.conf and the only > thing thats in /usr/local/etc/rc.d are: > > as1# ll /usr/local/etc/rc.d > total 4 > -rwxr-x--x 1 root wheel 434 Apr 16 02:00 apache.sh > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 392 Apr 4 08:16 samba.sh > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 392 Apr 3 11:35 samba.sh.sample > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 454 Apr 8 23:00 sshd.sh > as1# > > apache can go but not samba or sshd. could it be samba doing a > lookup? if so, how can i disable samba from doing so during startup? > also, i would normally get an intermittent 'annoyance' from > `arplookup' spewing these: > > Apr 18 09:37:26 as1 /kernel: arplookup 10.0.0.2 failed: could not allocate llinfo > > where 10.0.0.2 is my nt machine. it could be this thats trigerring > the dialup. but how do i disable it? i know i maybe asking a bit too > much but i hope you'd understand that i'm only using freebsd for a > month and a half. thanks for the patience... in advance :) > > > -- > Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 5:28:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from agayev.rt.net.tr (agayev.rt.net.tr [212.65.128.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 313C637B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:28:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nightbsd@mail.enderunix.org) Received: (qmail 73031 invoked by uid 1007); 18 Apr 2001 14:27:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 14:27:03 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:27:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Ismail YENIGUL X-X-Sender: To: Matthew King Cc: Subject: Re: Users In-Reply-To: <000801c0c7f6$0d80c900$0200a8c0@win2kbox> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi create /bin/false file # touch /bin/false add /etc/shells file to /bin/false and set user shell as a /bin/false that's all bye Ismail YENIGUL nightbsd@enderunix.org http://www.enderunix.org (Turkish *BSD Team Site) On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Matthew King wrote: > Hi, > i was wondering, is there a way i can give my users (/usr/home) FTP access but now telnet access? > If so can you please tell me how to do it. > > Thanx > > Matthew > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 5:49: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx3out.umbc.edu (mx3out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331BC37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:49:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu) Received: from linux3.gl.umbc.edu (IDENT:gmiddl1@linux3.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.39]) by mx3out.umbc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18203 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:48:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: Subject: Apr 18 02:50:05 longstroke login: login_getclass: unknown class 'users' Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone tell me what this means and what needs to be done? I take it that my machine is not recognizing my group "users" or something. once again here is the error found in my var/log/messages Apr 18 02:50:05 longstroke login: login_getclass: unknown class 'users' Regards, G. Jason Middleton _______________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 5:54:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tkh.att.ne.jp (tkh.att.ne.jp [165.76.17.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4071A37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:54:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lukek@tkh.att.ne.jp) Received: (qmail 14303 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2001 12:54:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO magome) (165.76.97.166) by tkh.att.ne.jp with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 12:54:30 -0000 From: "Luke Kearney" To: "Free BSD" Subject: yet more PPPoE woes Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:57:36 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, still battling away trying to get my PPPoE working properly. I get the message below everytime I try to connect. I don't really understand what it means and I am praying that someone can tell me. Starting ppp as "root"Error: iface_inAdd: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): 10.0.0.1: File exists Warning: set ifaddr: Failed 4 Error: iface_inAdd: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): 10.0.0.1: File exists Warning: set ifaddr: Failed 4 # Enable network daemons for user convenience. # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # ifconfig_vr0="UP" hostname="mydomain.net" linux_enable="YES" sendmail_enable="YES" moused_enable="YES" ppp_enable="YES" ppp_mode="DDIAL" ppp_profile="default" gateway_enable="YES" natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="vr0" firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="open" sshd_enable="YES" inetd_enable="YES" usbd_enable="YES" bash-2.04# bash-2.04# cat ppp.conf default: set device PPPoE:vr0 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command set dial set login set authname myusername@tkh.jpn@att.ne.jp set authkey password set mtu 740 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add! default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route enable dns # request DNS info (for resolv.conf) nat enable yes The releavant files are as above. I cannot for the life of me work out why this is being such a problem. When I had a ISDN connection I never really suffered from these problems albeit that I used to establish the connection manually :-) =================================================== Unix IS user friendly it's just particular about who its friends ARE ================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 5:56:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6D437B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:56:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14prUU-000LRW-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:55:26 +0300 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:55:25 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: "G. Jason Middleton" Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Apr 18 02:50:05 longstroke login: login_getclass: unknown class 'users' Message-ID: <20010418155525.C79925@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , "G. Jason Middleton" , FBSD-Q References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from "G. Jason Middleton" on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 08:48:53AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 3:51PM up 1 day, 22:14, 1 user, load averages: 0.07, 0.12, 0.09 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * G. Jason Middleton [20010418 15:48]: writing on the= subject 'Apr 18 02:50:05 longstroke login: login_getclass: unknown class '= users'' G.> Can someone tell me what this means and what needs to be done? I take = it G.> that my machine is not recognizing my group "users" or something. G.>=20 G.>=20 G.> once again here is the error found in my var/log/messages G.>=20 G.> Apr 18 02:50:05 longstroke login: login_getclass: unknown class 'users' G.>=20 G.> Regards, G.>=20 G.> G. Jason Middleton I have never used classes whenever creating users. I'll have to RTFM but please just confirm that when you added the user in question, you did put a login class (as opposed to a login group) of users, no?? -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Reality is for those who can't face Science Fiction. --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63Y69n7LIsuxjem8RAnWyAJ4zPx4f5bHz+Szz1HlIQbsUPxUUYACgmtFz XNHIkvsbffOqKTIY/vN7Un0= =tTeV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 6:10:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.arena.pl (mailhub.arena.pl [194.153.133.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4773F37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from belzebub@poczta.arena.pl) Received: from c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl ([157.158.183.1]) by mailhub.arena.pl (Arena SMTP) with ESMTP id GBZOKW02.G0Q for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:10:08 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:09:20 +0200 From: "Fenix xxx" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20010418150920.619b5135.belzebub@poczta.arena.pl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.64 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.2) Organization: Forbidden Dreams Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG auth 9d9739f1 subscribe freebsd-questions belzebub@poczta.arena.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 6:14:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl (c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.183.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E0037B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:14:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenix@c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl) Received: from c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl (amnesiac [157.158.183.1]) by c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3IDDmV08491 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:13:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fenix@c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:13:48 +0200 From: Fenix To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20010418151348.0a1b3209.fenix@c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.64 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.2) Organization: Forbidden Dreams Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG auth 9d9739f1 subscribe freebsd-questions belzebub@poczta.arena.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 6:25:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl (c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl [157.158.183.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AFA37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:25:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenix@c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl) Received: from c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl (amnesiac [157.158.183.1]) by c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3IDONV10504 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:24:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fenix@c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:24:22 +0200 From: Fenix To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Message-Id: <20010418152422.30473a38.fenix@c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl> In-Reply-To: <01041807173302.00375@daemon.shadotech.com> References: <20010418150920.619b5135.belzebub@poczta.arena.pl> <01041807173302.00375@daemon.shadotech.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.64 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.2) Organization: Forbidden Dreams Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry!!! I know, sorry I had some troubles with subscribing freebsd-questions but now it seems to be ok. again sorry Fnx On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:17:33 -0600 Jason Sheets wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello Fenix, > > Please send all majordomo commands to majordomo@freebsd.org. > > The handbook and email sent to you when you originally request to subscribe > both state that you should email majordomo@freebsd.org with subscribe, > unsubscribe and other majordomo commands. > > You sent this command to the list which got sent to everyone, we look forward > to welcoming you once you send this command to majordomo@freebsd.org > > Jason > > On Wednesday 18 April 2001 07:09, you wrote: > > auth 9d9739f1 subscribe freebsd-questions belzebub@poczta.arena.pl > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > - -- > Regards, > > Jason Sheets > Cisco Certified Network Associate > Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer > http://www.shadotech.com > > (Random Quote:) > "Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit > there." > -- Will Rogers > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE63ZP044LR80VGArkRAugUAJ43zu6FtYqx/cdrdE/uuGqOn8AJZACePdM9 > pUrUt6QSDkoTiSILs4NoXu4= > =ic9/ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 6:25:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.franken.de (elvis.franken.de [193.175.24.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820C637B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:25:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tanis@gaspode.franken.de) Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14prxQ-0002nW-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:25:20 +0200 Received: from gaspode.franken.de (lengfeld.core.main.franken.de [193.141.110.4]) by karnickel.franken.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3IDMjM18998; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:22:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tanis@gaspode.franken.de) Received: (from tanis@localhost) by gaspode.franken.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f3IDN1G02081; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:23:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tanis) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:23:01 +0200 From: German Tischler To: Luke Kearney Cc: Free BSD Subject: Re: yet more PPPoE woes Message-ID: <20010418152301.A1989@gaspode.franken.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5-current-20010403i In-Reply-To: ; from lukek@tkh.att.ne.jp on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:57:36PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:57:36PM +0900, Luke Kearney wrote: > Hi all, > still battling away trying to get my PPPoE working properly. I get the > message below everytime I try to connect. I don't really understand what = it > means and I am praying that someone can tell me. >=20 > Starting ppp as "root"Error: iface_inAdd: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): 10.0.0.1: F= ile > exists > Warning: set ifaddr: Failed 4 > Error: iface_inAdd: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): 10.0.0.1: File exists > Warning: set ifaddr: Failed 4 >=20 >=20 > # Enable network daemons for user convenience. > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # > ifconfig_vr0=3D"UP" Try using "up" instead of "UP" and check your other variables, most of them are case sensitive. --gt --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: U35njWaVarelP7WI/ZPDinjBrhI59B6u iQEVAwUBOt2VNL7hO6NLB/FvAQFd+gf+LTq+OvI8jed5wAZ3mCIWkKJQFRwqdTkP PhrxuLP+XKsUn8jaFoHnHuVr8hqTzyDcyKgPxbGZMUcxZtjJnEKA6l+OphSInvTg Vv8vaWAddUKH5cZBfHjBObupn4CGAtSW4F9tyzScwLZuEweucryNz/TgoeG4Liwg QdSZohkinXcdwBh/V9dv9I2wDVEWQ/XgiNUOIQlkgYUjRaU7shSyQm8bi+HbQEDj 7BX3etGcQ6Lv82XFn0XbTP5X2LrULNcX/sBYWYCvAs/+hNZiugvubQF3pZClmlx+ 7wWCCyjTV8TBEUUQguSU81OHm6d0uQim1ivCjOZDSbdZXdL5OvbKLA== =GYkD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 6:39:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ds1.brooks.com (mailin.brooks.com [63.71.19.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C81E37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:39:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jaeho.Lee@brooks.com) Received: from ims-naeast1.brooks.com ([10.10.254.19]) by ds1.brooks.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14ps5W-0001OM-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:33:42 -0400 Received: by ims-naeast1.brooks.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:37:58 -0400 Message-ID: <857F15D7E3D8D3118D290008C7CF058602C9767D@mail-naeast1.brooks.com> From: "Lee, Jaeho" To: 'Ted Mittelstaedt' , Christopher Farley , Graywane Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: does upsd support BACK-UPS from APC Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:35:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the all the response... I learned a lot. I have another question. This is off topic actually, please bear with me. I selected nut, simply because of the functionality (fancy CGI...) But my ups did not send the correct signal to my FreeBSD box. It was because of the cable. My BACK-UPS 300va did not come with serial cable. I thought any RS232 cable work. But it doesn't. I don't need the analysis of voltages... The only signal I need from UPS is "I'm dying". Is this message transferred through normal cable also? I can test it by myself. But I am not comfortable to test with running web server. ^^ Thanks, /Jaeho To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7: 4: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from reuben.meganet.net (reuben.meganet.net [209.213.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1C137B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:03:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from estair@computer-exchange.com) Received: from proxy (dial-tnt01-p2-169.bos.ma.meganet.net [209.213.73.169]) by reuben.meganet.net (8.9.3/8.9.1-BW0200.01SP) with SMTP id KAA17732 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:04:03 -0400 From: estair@computer-exchange.com Message-ID: <001c01c0c810$94cf0100$a949d5d1@mshome.net> To: Subject: build kernel fails after CVSup, unsure of cause: errors included. Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:05:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I'm running FreeBSD-Current.5-12-2001, and have just CVSup'd all source into /usr. After starting my kernel config file fresh from the new GENERIC included, I run 'make depend' from the kernel build directory only to have it fail after about a minute with the included errors. I previously compiled a kernel with the 5-12-2001 source, and it went fine, but I'm not *positive* what sources I CVSup'd, i.e. whether they are the most recent 5-14-2001 or not. There doesn't seem to be a CVSup server for the -Current build, current.freebsd.org doesn't work. The Makefile,v in /usr/src does *NOT* have any of the 5-Current trees listed, and I don't know how to verify what source I got. Can anyone point me in the direction of a 5-Current CVSup server if that is my problem? ***Note: I am following the directions in 'The Complete FreeBSD', and after using cvsup successfully I cannot run cvs because the 'src' directory doesn't exist in /usr/CVSROOT/. Other instructions I've read on updating don't even mention running cvs AFTER cvsup, I thought they were mutually exclusive, but I could be wrong. I'm no longer on the mailing list, could anyone post replies to the list and my email address (estair@computer-exchange.com)? Thanks to any consideration of this problem and all replies, I will personally respond to all. Cheers, Eli Stair Here is my cvsupfile: *default release=cvs *default host=cvsup6.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default delete *default use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all And the tail output from 'make depend' is as follows: ---snip--------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ reg.c ../../i386/pci/pci_bus.c ../../isa/atkbd_isa.c ../../isa/atkbdc_isa.c .. /../isa/fd.c ../../isa/ppc.c ../../isa/psm.c ../../isa/sio.c ../../isa/syscons_ isa.c ../../isa/vga_isa.c ../../kern/imgact_aout.c ../../kern/link_aout.c ../.. /kern/subr_diskmbr.c ../../libkern/divdi3.c ../../libkern/moddi3.c ../../libker n/qdivrem.c ../../libkern/ucmpdi2.c ../../libkern/udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umodd i3.c param.c vnode_if.c hints.c config.c ../../i386/i386/genassym.c ../../kern/link_elf.c:55: link.h: No such file or directory ../../kern/vfs_conf.c:58: paths.h: No such file or directory ../../libkern/bsearch.c:40: stddef.h: No such file or directory ../../libkern/bsearch.c:41: stdlib.h: No such file or directory ../../libkern/strcat.c:36: string.h: No such file or directory ../../libkern/strcmp.c:39: string.h: No such file or directory ../../libkern/strcpy.c:36: string.h: No such file or directory ../../libkern/strlen.c:36: string.h: No such file or directory ../../libkern/strncmp.c:36: string.h: No such file or directory ../../libkern/strncpy.c:39: string.h: No such file or directory ../../dev/syscons/scmouse.c:31: limits.h: No such file or directory ../../kern/link_aout.c:52: a.out.h: No such file or directory ../../kern/link_aout.c:53: link.h: No such file or directory In file included from ../../libkern/divdi3.c:40: ../../libkern/quad.h:59: limits.h: No such file or directory In file included from ../../libkern/moddi3.c:40: ../../libkern/quad.h:59: limits.h: No such file or directory In file included from ../../libkern/qdivrem.c:45: ../../libkern/quad.h:59: limits.h: No such file or directory In file included from ../../libkern/ucmpdi2.c:40: ../../libkern/quad.h:59: limits.h: No such file or directory In file included from ../../libkern/udivdi3.c:40: ../../libkern/quad.h:59: limits.h: No such file or directory In file included from ../../libkern/umoddi3.c:40: ../../libkern/quad.h:59: limits.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/HERMES. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/HERMES. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7: 4:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ibis.worldnet.net (ibis.worldnet.net [195.3.3.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7610737B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vivelame@shyne.worldnet.net) Received: from m3.worldnet.net (m2.worldnet.net [195.3.3.6]) by ibis.worldnet.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IE48v21828 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:04:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vivelame@shyne.worldnet.net) Received: from salegoth.shyne.worldnet.net (nat-srv1.kaptech.net [195.3.9.4]) by m3.worldnet.net (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IE3eE53417 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:03:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vivelame@shyne.worldnet.net) Message-Id: <4.3.1.0.20010418160424.0266ac70@mail.worldnet.net> X-Sender: vivelame@shyne.worldnet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:07:56 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Brice Gensburger Subject: SNMPD? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! i'm trying to install a snmp daemon on FreeBSD -STABLE boxes (monitoring..) so i went looking for one in the ports collection. Only one i found seems to be /usr/ports/net/ucd-snmp but [oxygen][/]# cd /usr/ports/net/ucd-snmp/ [oxygen][ucd-snmp]# ls README.html [oxygen][ucd-snmp]# ls -al total 24 drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 4096 Mar 13 15:36 . drwxr-xr-x 385 nobody nobody 16384 Apr 18 13:48 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 791 Mar 13 15:36 README.html ... cvsup'ed the ports collection just minutes ago... was it removed? does anyone know a good snmpd i could install on a FreeBSD box? (monitoring usage, processes, memory, disk usage, MTA, web servers, and so on..) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:13:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cybersurf.net (smtp1.cybersurf.net [209.197.145.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5499F37B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 01031149@3web.net) Received: from 3web.net ([209.115.233.89]) by smtp1.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GBZRHX00.UX9 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:13:09 -0600 Received: by rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (EzMTS MTSAgent 1.22b Service) ; Wed, 18 Apr 01 08:12:16 -0600 for Received: from 3web.net (10.0.0.2) by rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (EzMTS MTSSmtp 1.23f Service) ; Wed, 18 Apr 01 07:34:40 -0600 for Received: by mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:34:15 -0600 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:34:13 -0600 From: Duke Normandin <01031149@3web.net> To: Alvin Sim Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Re[2]: stop ppp dialing on boot Message-ID: <20010418073412.A216997@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Alvin Sim , FreeBSD Questions References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> <20010418112258.A7234@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <1076649851.20010418195315@yahoo.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1076649851.20010418195315@yahoo.co.uk>; from "Alvin Sim" on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 07:53:15PM X-Envelope-Receiver: , Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 07:53:15PM +0800, Alvin Sim wrote: > Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 06:22:58 PM, Rasputin wrote: > > R> * Alvin Sim [010418 04:20]: > >> Hello list, > >> > >> i have been searching around for a way to stop ppp from dialing when > >> the machine boots up but so far, i cannot say that i have found an > >> answer. hopefully someone here can help me out :) > > R> Find out what's bringing up the line. > R> Chances are one of your daemons does a DNS test or similar when it starts up. > > this just might be it but... how do i see which is starting up the > dns test search? i have `inetd' disabled in rc.conf and the only > thing thats in /usr/local/etc/rc.d are: I seem to recall from the time I went through this exercise, that "sendmail" was the culprit doing DNS lookups. I believe that i cured the problem by disabling 'dns' in ppp.conf. Check the mailing list archives - I'm sure that there is *lots* of material on this issue. Later... -- -duke Calgary, Alberta, Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:13:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cybersurf.net (smtp1.cybersurf.net [209.197.145.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D58437B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:13:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 01031149@3web.net) Received: from 3web.net ([209.115.233.89]) by smtp1.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GBZRHW00.4X5 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:13:08 -0600 Received: by rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (EzMTS MTSAgent 1.22b Service) ; Wed, 18 Apr 01 08:12:15 -0600 for Received: from 3web.net (10.0.0.2) by rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (EzMTS MTSSmtp 1.23f Service) ; Wed, 18 Apr 01 07:46:11 -0600 for Received: by mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:45:48 -0600 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:45:45 -0600 From: Duke Normandin <01031149@3web.net> To: "Sabhanam, Srinivas (GEP)" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unix Shell Script Question Message-ID: <20010418074545.B216997@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca> Mail-Followup-To: "Sabhanam, Srinivas (GEP)" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <0B79B104AA51D311982F009027866BC502273D4F@SEHKG002> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="zcJ3g15gE5QbzGiw" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <0B79B104AA51D311982F009027866BC502273D4F@SEHKG002>; from "Sabhanam, Srinivas (GEP)" on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:03:07AM X-Envelope-Receiver: , Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --zcJ3g15gE5QbzGiw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:03:07AM -0400, Sabhanam, Srinivas (GEP) wrote: > Hi, > > Could you pls. let me know how to delete files in Unix that are older than > specified days? > > Your help will be highly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Srinivas Sabhanam Hi.... The attached is what I use to 'rm' files. You can use the guts of 'purge.sh' to do what you want. Later.... -- -duke Calgary, Alberta, Canada --zcJ3g15gE5QbzGiw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="safe_rm.sh" #!/bin/sh if (mv $* ~/tmp) then echo -e '\nfiles have been moved to your ~/tmp directory.' echo -e 'To remove them use the purge command\n' else echo 'An error occured -- files not moved!' fi --zcJ3g15gE5QbzGiw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="purge.sh" #!/bin/sh # # A script to purge files that have been "mv"ed to the ~/tmp directory # as a result of the aliased "rm" command. Checks for files not changed # in the last 7 days and removes them. # cd ~/tmp if (/bin/find . -ctime +7 -ok rm {} \; ) then echo -e "\nfiles older than 7 days in ~/tmp have been removed." else echo "An error has occured -- files not removed!" fi --zcJ3g15gE5QbzGiw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:13:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A7437B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:13:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3IEDg904143; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:13:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:13:42 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Brice Gensburger Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SNMPD? Message-ID: <20010418091341.A733@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4.3.1.0.20010418160424.0266ac70@mail.worldnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.0.20010418160424.0266ac70@mail.worldnet.net>; from "Brice Gensburger" on Wed Apr 18 16:07:56 GMT 2001 X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Apr 18), Brice Gensburger said: > Hi! > i'm trying to install a snmp daemon on FreeBSD -STABLE boxes (monitoring..) > so i went looking for one in the ports collection. > Only one i found seems to be /usr/ports/net/ucd-snmp > but > [oxygen][/]# cd /usr/ports/net/ucd-snmp/ > [oxygen][ucd-snmp]# ls > README.html > [oxygen][ucd-snmp]# ls -al > total 24 > drwxr-xr-x 2 nobody nobody 4096 Mar 13 15:36 . > drwxr-xr-x 385 nobody nobody 16384 Apr 18 13:48 .. > -rw-r--r-- 1 nobody nobody 791 Mar 13 15:36 README.html The ucd-snmp port has been renamed to net-snmp. You created the README.html by doing a "make readme" at some point. Cvsup won't delete files you create, so the directory is still hanging around. Try ports/net/net-snmp instead. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:17:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cgmd76206.chello.nl (d9168.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.9.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98A137B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:17:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edwin@cgmd76206.chello.nl) Received: by cgmd76206.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B38D8EC; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:17:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:17:23 +0200 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Brice Gensburger Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SNMPD? Message-ID: <20010418161723.C16967@cgmd76206.chello.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , Brice Gensburger , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <4.3.1.0.20010418160424.0266ac70@mail.worldnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.0.20010418160424.0266ac70@mail.worldnet.net>; from vivelame@shyne.worldnet.net on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:07:56PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:07:56PM +0200, Brice Gensburger wrote: > cvsup'ed the ports collection just minutes ago... > was it removed? Yes and no.... http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/net/ucd-snmp/Attic/Makefile It says that it's renamed into net-snmp. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://FatalDimensions.nl.eu.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:27:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nbux.com (ASte-Genev-Bois-101-1-2-99.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.252.179.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE7D37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:27:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbux.com) Received: from goliath ([192.168.5.20]) by nbux.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f3IERR222343 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:27:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@nbux.com) Message-ID: <027301c0c814$34b14db0$1405a8c0@goliath> From: "lifo" To: Subject: new freebsd site french Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:31:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, it's just to announce a new (again) web site for FreeBSD, this site is in french (sorry for english). http://www.nbux.com please send me your commentaries. -- NoThiNg BuT UniX -=- www.nbux.com -=- Powered by FreeBSD ! lifo@nbux.com -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:27:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.184.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBE837B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:27:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lowell@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3IERnI16717; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:27:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lowell) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to automatically update /usr/share/doc References: <11301369@toto.iv> <15069.27120.893659.761365@guru.mired.org> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 18 Apr 2001 10:27:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: mwm@mired.org's message of "18 Apr 2001 12:18:35 +0200" Message-ID: <44pueauvtn.fsf@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net> Lines: 66 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mwm@mired.org (Mike Meyer) writes: > Andrew Nesbit types: > > hi... I've been successfully doing cvsup's and rebuilding the system, but now > > my /usr/share/doc directory is out of date (in particular, the handbook). > > > > Is there any way of getting cvsup (or some other program) to automatically > > keep this stuff up to date? > > /usr/share/doc is built from source, just like /bin, /usr/bin, and > similar things. > > To get the sources, you need to cvsup the doc set. See > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile for an example of how to do > that. And don't forget the option of downloading the pre-built docs themselves, which you can do via FTP... ================================================================ README file from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/ ================================================================ These subdirectories contain formatted copies of the FreeBSD Documentation Project documentation. packages/ contains pkg_add(1)'able files which integrate nicely in to the FreeBSD package management system. ./ contains further subdirectories corresponding to the actual documentation. Follow the path to the document, format, and compression scheme you want. faq/ and handbook/ Symlinks to the English FAQ and Handbook directories, as these are (probably) of most interest to potential downloaders. Formats ------- Documents are available in the following formats: html-split A collection of small, linked, HTML files html One large HTML file containing the entire document pdb Palm Pilot database format, for use with the iSilo reader, from http://www.iSilo.com/ pdf Adobe Portable Document Format ps Postscript rtf Microsoft's Rich Text Format [1] txt Plain text In addition, documents are compressed with the GNU Zip, regular Zip, and BZip2 format. -- [1] Page numbers are not automatically updated when loading this format in to Word. Press CTRL+A, CTRL+END, F9, after loading the document, to update the page numbers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:29:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mss.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au (ha1.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au [203.164.2.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E6037B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:29:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chumblybum@optushome.com.au) Received: from bootcamp ([203.164.125.236]) by mss.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010418142935.BLPJ28870.mss.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au@bootcamp> for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:29:35 +1000 Message-ID: <001801c0c813$fac6a4b0$0200a8c0@bootcamp> From: "Adam Clark" To: Subject: Ports that show up "filtered" in nmap when there is no service running on that port Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:29:25 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0C867.C98D9620" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0C867.C98D9620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I have a default catchall ipfilter rule and when I nmap my box it returns: Starting nmap V. 2.52 by fyodor@insecure.org ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) Interesting ports on MyHost ( MYIP ): (The 1515 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) Port State Service 25/tcp filtered smtp 137/tcp filtered netbios-ns 138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm 139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn 1080/tcp filtered socks Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 23 seconds yet all those services are not running on my machine, why would these = appear as filtered? it obviously drops the packet before IPFILTER can even analyse it version: FreeBSD milkrun.wiggedy 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #6: Fri Apr 13 20:48:43 = EST 2001 root@milkrun.wiggedy:/usr/src/sys/compile/CYZZAATHOME i386 Although this a a very upto date build of freebsd, i have seen this in versions all the way back to the 4.0 iso release I have many services running, like web and ftp. but they dont show up. I havent got special rules for these services. if I telnet into 23 I get this 16/04/2001 14:52:14.372837 rl0 @5:10 b src-ip,3734 -> my-ip,23 PR tcp = len 20 44 -S IN if I telnet into 25, it doesnt even show up in the log which proves my point about there is something BEFORE ipf that is = deciding what to do with these packets These are the rules I am using block return-rst in log on rl0 proto tcp all block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log on rl0 proto udp all they are the last in the set apart from the out rules which are pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from my-ip/32 to any keep state pass out quick on rl0 proto udp from my-ip/32 to any keep state pass out quick on rl0 proto icmp from my-ip/32 to any keep state so every packet that comes in the interface gets reset hence all packets should be the same and should come up CLOSED by nmap = not filtered Adam ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0C867.C98D9620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
    I have a default catchall ipfilter rule = and when=20 I nmap my box
it returns:

Starting nmap V. 2.52 by fyodor@insecure.org ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ = )
Interesting=20 ports on MyHost  ( MYIP ):
(The 1515 ports scanned but not shown = below=20 are in state: closed)
Port      =20 State      =20 Service
25/tcp     filtered   =20 smtp
137/tcp    filtered   =20 netbios-ns
138/tcp    filtered   =20 netbios-dgm
139/tcp    filtered   =20 netbios-ssn
1080/tcp   filtered    = socks

Nmap=20 run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 23 = seconds

yet all=20 those services are not running on my machine, why would these = appear
as=20 filtered?
it obviously drops the packet before IPFILTER can even = analyse=20 it

version:
FreeBSD milkrun.wiggedy 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #6: = Fri Apr=20 13 20:48:43 EST
2001     roo= t@milkrun.wiggedy:/usr/src/sys/compile/CYZZAATHOME =20 i386

Although this a a very upto date build of freebsd, i have = seen this=20 in
versions all the way back to the 4.0 iso release
I have many services running, like web and ftp. but they dont show = up.
I=20 havent got special rules for these services.

if I telnet into 23 = I get=20 this
16/04/2001 14:52:14.372837 rl0 @5:10 b src-ip,3734 -> = my-ip,23 PR tcp=20 len 20
44 -S IN

 if I telnet into 25, it doesnt even show = up in=20 the log
which proves my point about there is something BEFORE ipf = that is=20 deciding
what to do with these
packets
These are the rules I am using
block return-rst in log on rl0 = proto tcp=20 all
block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log on rl0 proto udp=20 all

they are the last in the set apart from the out rules which=20 are
pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp  from my-ip/32 to any keep=20 state
pass out quick on rl0 proto udp  from my-ip/32 to any keep = state
pass out quick on rl0 proto icmp from my-ip/32 to any keep=20 state

so every packet that comes in the interface gets = reset
hence all=20 packets should be the same and should come up CLOSED by nmap=20 not
filtered

Adam
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0C867.C98D9620-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:31:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gdmckee.local (pc-62-30-209-11-so.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.209.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C16E37B632 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:31:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gdmckee.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (helo=p300) by gdmckee.local with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14psyu-000MRZ-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:30:56 +0100 Message-ID: <005e01c0c814$294283e0$0500a8c0@gdmckee.local> From: "G D McKee" To: "Questions FreeBSD" Subject: !!!Text file busy!!! Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:30:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Hoe can I get around this error. If I leave the file long enough I can run it. Seems odd. It is not open by any other process. kursk#~/bin> ./gdm.pl bash: ./gdm.pl: Text file busy kursk#~/bin> Gordon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:32:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 753C237B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:32:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from linuxlog@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO lor-nx) (202.169.141.72) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 14:32:19 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:16:52 +0530 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Logu Subject: subscribe X-Mailer: Opera 5.00 build 828 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20010418143224.753C237B424@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I interested in knowing more about freebsd, so please subscribe me. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:36:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA1D37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:36:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IEWln65664; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:32:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200104181432.f3IEWln65664@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:38:08 PDT." <20010417113808.A125@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:32:47 -0400 From: hawk Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kris karped > It may require some tweaking; I don't think anyone's seen an SMP AMD > mobo yet. They've been seen; they're just not out yet. Tyan showed off a 760MP a couple of months ago (at linuxworld?). It was running Mandrake Linux. We have money waiting to buy one as soon as they ship (june?). As FreeBSD support6s both x86 and alpha, and does smp on alpha, I don't imagine that it will be too hard once a kernel developer gets hands on a board . . . hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 dochawk@psu.edu These opinions will not be those of Penn State until it pays my retainer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:42:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp010.mail.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B109737B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:42:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from unknown (HELO as2.kptn.org) (210.186.38.177) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 14:41:59 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:41:23 +0800 From: Alvin Sim X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52 Beta/4) Reply-To: Alvin Sim Organization: n/a X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17916737066.20010418224123@yahoo.co.uk> To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re[4]: stop ppp dialing on boot In-Reply-To: <064f01c0c801$b0b924e0$548d093d@oracle> References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> <20010418112258.A7234@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <1076649851.20010418195315@yahoo.co.uk> <064f01c0c801$b0b924e0$548d093d@oracle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 08:18:34 PM, Doug Young wrote: DY> my guess would be apache rather than samba ... have you tried " DY> /apachectl stop" to confirm heh... better still, i deinstall apache. still, it dials on boot :( i'm giving up for today but i'll be back tomorrow :) [..snip...] -- Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:42:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web3306.mail.yahoo.com (web3306.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B778A37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:42:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from natepuri@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010418144251.22905.qmail@web3306.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.175.101.171] by web3306.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:42:51 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:42:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Nate Puri Subject: Re: How to people easily update ports with dependencies (such as galeon)? To: Philip Hallstrom , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Simple, do this... pkg_version -c > update_ports.sh Then go in update_ports.sh and you will see a list up ports that need to be updated (and their dependencies will be in there too). Delete the top few lines, add '#!/bin/sh'; do chmod 755 update_ports.sh, then do ./update_ports.sh, and viola!, updated ports. Later, Nate --- Philip Hallstrom wrote: > Hi all - > I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on a > painless way to > update a port that has dependencies? > > In my case, I currently have galeon-0.10.2 which > requires glib-1.2.10. I > currently have glib-1.2.8. The problem is I can > remove my galeon port, > and install the new one, but installing the new one > will install the new > version of glib without removing the old one. > > is there an easy way to tell it to remove any old > ports of new versions > it's installing? > > thanks! > > -philip > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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------=_NextPart_001_0004_01C0C7ED.33C99780-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 7:57:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.184.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B1C37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:57:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lowell@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3IEvmg16803; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:57:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lowell) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, eric.parusel@globalrelay.net Subject: Re: FTPd, ls, and Timezones..... References: <987557973.331425@nnrp.gt.ca> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 18 Apr 2001 10:57:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Eric Parusel"'s message of "Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:30:21 -0700" Message-ID: <44eluquufn.fsf@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net> Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Eric Parusel" writes: > I'm using FreeBSD stable, running ftpd. > My timezone is set to America/Vancouver (PDT), and my system clock isn't set > to UTC... > > Using the shell, when creating/copying files, the date shows up correctly > when I run ls.. (09:28) > > When I connect to the ftp server (ftpd), and upload a file, the file date > shows up as 7 hours ahead... (16:28, or what would be UTC...) in my ftp > client (ftp on unix, windows ftp clients). > > If I ssh in and check the file date, it's set to 09:28... > ftpd doesn't appear to be displaying the proper file dates, is this a known > problem/feature/bug? Feature, not bug. There's no way for ftpd to know the correct time zone for the remote user, and there's no way for the user to know what time zone the server is in, so UTC is always used for FTP. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 8: 5: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web3304.mail.yahoo.com (web3304.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0041837B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:04:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from natepuri@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010418150453.11786.qmail@web3304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.175.101.171] by web3304.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:04:53 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:04:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Nate Puri Subject: Re: Upgrading a system To: James Guse , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20010417155903.04e4feb0@popcorn.llnl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cvsup -g -L 2 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile cd /usr/src make world that's really all there is to it. you should also read the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/handbook FreeBSD's on-line documentation is second to none. -nate --- James Guse wrote: > I'm a little confused about the recommended way to > upgrade a FreeBSD > system. I want to avoid anything to do with > sources/CVS, etc; I'm looking > for straightforward upgrades of bastion, production > systems. I've found > the following incomplete information: > > FAQ 1.31 says: > Use "binary snapshots" of -STABLE. (Ok, I > understand how to install a new > system from the snapshots, but upgrading?) > > 4.2-...-STABLE UPGRADE.TXT says: > These notes assume that you are using the version of > sysinstall supplied > with the version of FreeBSD to which you intend to > upgrade. Using a > mismatched version of sysinstall is almost > guaranteed to cause problems and > has been known to leave systems in an unusable > state. The most commonly > made mistake in this regard is the use of an old > copy of /stand/sysinstall > from an existing installation to upgrade to a newer > version of FreeBSD. > This is NOT recommended. > > (Ok, so how to I get the correct /stand/sysinstall > for the version I want > to upgrade to before I upgrade the system? Does > /stand come in the 'bin' > distribution?) > > So I took a chance and upgraded a 4.2-RELEASE system > to > 4.2-20010411-STABLE. Everything worked fine except > for a kernel naming > problem: UPGRADE.TXT says that the kernel will be > replaced with a generic > kernel. Fine, but it doesn't say that you have to > 'mv kernel.GENERIC > kernel' so that /boot/defaults/loader.conf will > actually boot the system. > > Once it was all done, it appeared that nothing in > /stand was > updated. Further, when I copied the contents of > /stand (actually a nest of > hard links) to another system to perform the > upgrade, it seemed to think it > was the version that that other system was installed > as. > > So, unless I've just missed an obvious pointer to > the simple explanation of > how to do an upgrade, perhaps this is a good item > for the FAQ. > > Jimmy > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 8:19:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from frontend1.aha.ru (fish.zenon.net [213.189.198.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A85D37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:19:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from niiaria@4unet.ru) Received: from [195.2.83.130] (HELO backend2.aha.ru) by frontend1.aha.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.4) with ESMTP id 92209433 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:19:44 +0400 Received: from [212.45.8.239] (HELO galiap) by backend2.aha.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.4) with SMTP id 41301401 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:19:38 +0400 Message-ID: <000501c0c81b$3eb81ee0$c118a8c0@INT.NIIAO.COM> From: "PoushkovaG" To: Subject: security & use Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:21:27 +0400 Organization: niiaria MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have Free BSD 3.4 release, is this release relable for use as post server & internet gateway, is 'sendmail' & 'named' from it, good choice, why 'named' have options for change UID & GID, is above problem only computer with multi user, so on computer is only I most of problem security is unmeaning. Alexander. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 8:25:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oddjob.adhesivemedia.com (oddjob.adhesivemedia.com [207.202.159.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B1737B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:25:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost) by oddjob.adhesivemedia.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IFPAE93630; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Nate Puri Cc: Subject: Re: How to people easily update ports with dependencies (such as galeon)? In-Reply-To: <20010418144251.22905.qmail@web3306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The problem with that though is let's say that it spits out this (pseudo speaking): update portA update portB update portC And let's say that portA depends on portB which depends on port C. Well, when I run that code to update portA it's going to automatically update portB which will update portC which means the rest of the above script is pointless -- and it won't remove the currently installed old versions of portB and portC. Although now that I think about it, I could change the "make install" to "make reinstall" in the output of pkg_version -c and that would do it. Maybe I"ll just not worry about two versions of the same port being installed :) -philip On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Nate Puri wrote: > Simple, > > do this... > > pkg_version -c > update_ports.sh > > Then go in update_ports.sh and you will see a list up > ports that need to be updated (and their dependencies > will be in there too). Delete the top few lines, add > '#!/bin/sh'; do chmod 755 update_ports.sh, then do > ./update_ports.sh, and > viola!, updated ports. > > Later, > Nate > --- Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > Hi all - > > I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on a > > painless way to > > update a port that has dependencies? > > > > In my case, I currently have galeon-0.10.2 which > > requires glib-1.2.10. I > > currently have glib-1.2.8. The problem is I can > > remove my galeon port, > > and install the new one, but installing the new one > > will install the new > > version of glib without removing the old one. > > > > is there an easy way to tell it to remove any old > > ports of new versions > > it's installing? > > > > thanks! > > > > -philip > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > > the message > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 8:25:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [199.199.159.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0C037B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:25:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.8.5/1.1) id KAA01477; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:24:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:24:41 -0500 From: john@dexter.starfire.mn.org (John) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Netscape problem under 3.5.1 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.53 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any suggestions will be appreciated. I am no longer subscribed to this list, so please include my direct e-mail address in your reply. I am trying to run Netscape Lite 4.73/Export, 04-May-00 (Navigator) under FreeBSD 3.5.1-RELEASE and I get the tiny, cryptic (to me) error message "no recognized font charsets!". Other X applications work fine. I am doing this by running netscape on a 3.5.1 box I am telnetted to from a FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE system. Other applications work fine. This is my second go-round with this set up -- the first time, I loaded Communicator, and it worked this way. I've made significantly different package selections, but in the main, the set up is the same, except that it is Navigator instead of Communicator this time, and that I didn't load any X servers on the 3.5.1 system yet. The big picture here is that I want to replace the 2.1.0 system with the 3.5.1 system I am building up, but don't have the same graphics hardware in the test/integration system, so there's no point in configuring an X server on there at this time. Any suggestions will be appreciated. I am no longer subscribed to this list, so please include my direct e-mail address in your reply. Thanks! -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 8:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lachesis.increase-field.com (lachesis.increase-field.com [61.200.9.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D5737B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:29:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from masuda@tcp-ip.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lachesis.increase-field.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3IFOkZ05161; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:24:46 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from masuda@tcp-ip.or.jp) To: lukek@tkh.att.ne.jp Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: yet more PPPoE woes In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.2 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010419002446R.masuda@tcp-ip.or.jp> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:24:46 +0900 From: Yoshihiro Masuda X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 26 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Luke Kearney" Subject: yet more PPPoE woes Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:57:36 +0900 > Hi all, > still battling away trying to get my PPPoE working properly. I get the > message below everytime I try to connect. I don't really understand what it > means and I am praying that someone can tell me. > > Starting ppp as "root"Error: iface_inAdd: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): 10.0.0.1: File > exists > Warning: set ifaddr: Failed 4 > Error: iface_inAdd: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): 10.0.0.1: File exists > Warning: set ifaddr: Failed 4 Do you using your ethernet card for not only PPPoE but also your lan or something? tell me the result of forowing commands, # ifconfig -a # ps ax | grep ppp Thats'all -- masuda To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 8:31:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lachesis.increase-field.com (lachesis.increase-field.com [61.200.9.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEFB37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:31:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from masuda@tcp-ip.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lachesis.increase-field.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3IFQQZ05169; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:26:26 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from masuda@tcp-ip.or.jp) To: lukek@tkh.att.ne.jp Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: yet more PPPoE woes In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.2 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010419002626E.masuda@tcp-ip.or.jp> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:26:26 +0900 From: Yoshihiro Masuda X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 17 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > default: > set device PPPoE:vr0 > set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command > set dial > set login > set authname myusername@tkh.jpn@att.ne.jp > set authkey password > set mtu 740 > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 Why are you set the inet addres to the host? I think it was assinged automaticaly by your ISP. -- masuda To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 8:33: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBC837B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:32:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 75CE655407; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680A151610; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:27:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Mike Dorin , Subject: RE: Lockup problem continues...more info In-Reply-To: <005401c0c7c8$bcbf1580$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-17, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: # Hi Mike, # # Don't get too caught up in thinking that just because it # fails on the same file all the time that the problem is # reproducible. Your dealing with a random problem here, most # definitely. Heat problems can easily cause random lock-ups, reboots, hangs, data corruption, etc. That can mean that since you (Mike) have probably shutdown the computer improperly after a complete lock-up... this can cause unrepairable damage to data on the hard drive, meaning that you may have even more data that has been corrupted. # I agree with Linh's suggestion to check for heat problems. # However, let me caution you - if you do find an overheating # component and correct the problem (by installing a new fan, # or heatsink) don't be surprised if problems continue. Heat is # a very bad thing for electronics - many components will be # _permanently_ damaged by overheating, _espically_ if the overheating # is chronic. Besides feeling the chips as he suggests, make # sure to get a can of compressed air and blow out the computer. Also make sure that you clean out the power supply as well. Dust collecting in the power supply unit can cause that to overheat, thus leading to a poorer and less clean power going to your components (mostly your processor and drives). # (what I do myself with my home server computers, which are running # 24x7 is once a year I shut them down and haul them out to the driveway # and pull off their cases then hit them with shop air from a blowgun - # it's handy to have an air compressor in the garage. This is # a good thing to do for monitors, too) Another important part to keep as clean as possible is the heatsink/fan unit on your processor. If there is a thick layer of dust (thick being more than 1/8") covering the heatsink, heat dissipation is royally reduced and can help your processor to overheat. Over causes of random lock-ups can be conflicting IRQ's, poorly set DMA/PIO modes for hard drives, bad drive cables, failing hardware component (including processors, memory... which you have checked, hard drives, etc.), etc. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 8:33:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from truemetal.org (truemetal.org [206.168.16.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C26837B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:33:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from universe@truemetal.org) Received: (qmail 13980 invoked by alias); 18 Apr 2001 15:29:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truemetal.org) (213.23.52.168) by truemetal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 15:29:48 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADDB321.666170CC@truemetal.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:30:41 +0200 From: universe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: yet more PPPoE woes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG remove the line "nat enable yes" from your ppp.conf and it will work. two (ppp nat + natd) natd services at the same time isn't a good idea. :) markus Luke Kearney wrote: > > Hi all, > still battling away trying to get my PPPoE working properly. I get the > message below everytime I try to connect. I don't really understand what it > means and I am praying that someone can tell me. > > Starting ppp as "root"Error: iface_inAdd: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): 10.0.0.1: File > exists > Warning: set ifaddr: Failed 4 > Error: iface_inAdd: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR): 10.0.0.1: File exists > Warning: set ifaddr: Failed 4 > > # Enable network daemons for user convenience. > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # > ifconfig_vr0="UP" > hostname="mydomain.net" > linux_enable="YES" > sendmail_enable="YES" > moused_enable="YES" > ppp_enable="YES" > ppp_mode="DDIAL" > ppp_profile="default" > gateway_enable="YES" > natd_enable="YES" > natd_interface="vr0" > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_type="open" > sshd_enable="YES" > inetd_enable="YES" > usbd_enable="YES" > bash-2.04# > > bash-2.04# cat ppp.conf > default: > set device PPPoE:vr0 > set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command > set dial > set login > set authname myusername@tkh.jpn@att.ne.jp > set authkey password > set mtu 740 > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 > add! default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route > enable dns # request DNS info (for resolv.conf) > nat enable yes > > The releavant files are as above. I cannot for the life of me work out why > this is being such a problem. When I had a ISDN connection I never really > suffered from these problems albeit that I used to establish the connection > manually :-) > > =================================================== > > Unix IS user friendly it's just particular about who its friends ARE > > ================================================== > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 8:42:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4189C37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:42:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14pu5y-000FhC-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:42:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:42:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: Rino Mardo Cc: green , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hi In-Reply-To: <00bf01c0c7c7$3224dd70$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, it does need to have some sort of DNS lookup suceed, or no DNS at all set up on the box. If you remove /etc/resolv.conf alltogether, you will be able to get in just fine when you aren't dialed in. However, then your box won't be able to resolve DNS at all. I am assuming that you will need to resolve DNS to some extent, and if you do, then you need to set it up. I personally use a null modem cable and connect the serial port of my FreeBSD box to my PC and use it as a com-console at 115200 baud. The downside to this is that I can only run 1 terminal. However, I don't have to have the DNS set up. Also, if my network card fails for some reason, I don't have to dig out my monitor and keyboard to regain access to my box. On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Rino Mardo wrote: > wow all this just to make logins go fast on one's lan? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Duvall" > To: "green" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 11:22 PM > Subject: Re: hi > > > > That's because it it trying to do a DNS lookup on the IP address you are > > connecting from, and it waits until it fails. If set up BIND on your box, > > and point the nameserver argument in /etc/resolv.conf to the internal ip > > address of your box, set up your reverse IP and other IP, set it up as a > > caching DNS server, you should be good to go. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 8:47:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCEB37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:47:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14puAk-0008GM-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:47:14 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IFlA612188; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:47:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:47:10 +0100 From: Rasputin To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: Re[2]: stop ppp dialing on boot Message-ID: <20010418164710.A12087@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> <20010418112258.A7234@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <1076649851.20010418195315@yahoo.co.uk> <20010418073412.A216997@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010418073412.A216997@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca>; from 01031149@3web.net on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 07:34:13AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Duke Normandin <01031149@3web.net> [010418 15:14]: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 07:53:15PM +0800, Alvin Sim wrote: > > > Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 06:22:58 PM, Rasputin wrote: > > > > R> * Alvin Sim [010418 04:20]: > > >> Hello list, > > >> > > >> i have been searching around for a way to stop ppp from dialing when > > >> the machine boots up but so far, i cannot say that i have found an > > >> answer. hopefully someone here can help me out :) > > > > R> Find out what's bringing up the line. > > R> Chances are one of your daemons does a DNS test or similar when it starts up. > > > > this just might be it but... how do i see which is starting up the > > dns test search? i have `inetd' disabled in rc.conf and the only > > thing thats in /usr/local/etc/rc.d are: One of those is probably making DNS queries. If you are logged in as it boots, try sockstat -4 see what is using the network. (a dns query can come from anywhere but will ber travelling to the IP of one of your nameservers addressed ot port 53 udp/tcp) Once you know what kind of traffic is bringing up the line, as Duke said, man ppp should give you some idea how to limit what will bring up the PPP link. There's a sample file somewhere rilly obvious (either the Handbook or the Pedantic PPP Primer) that shows you how to selectively bring up the line on a per-protocol basis. > "sendmail" was the culprit doing DNS lookups. I believe that i cured the > problem by disabling 'dns' in ppp.conf. Check the mailing list archives - -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 8:47:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from slackerbsd.org (cn434050-d.wall1.pa.home.com [24.40.72.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33CEC37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@slackerbsd.org) Received: (qmail 35284 invoked by uid 1029); 18 Apr 2001 15:47:21 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:47:21 -0400 From: Carl Schmidt To: Adam Clark Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports that show up "filtered" in nmap when there is no service running on that port Message-ID: <20010418114721.A34816@slackerbsd.org> References: <001801c0c813$fac6a4b0$0200a8c0@bootcamp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001801c0c813$fac6a4b0$0200a8c0@bootcamp>; from chumblybum@optushome.com.au on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:29:25AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Because you're from @home and @home does some port filtering at a higher le= vel. If you nmap 24.40.72.54 (my machine, you may if you want, use -T Polite tho= ugh =3D)) you'll see what I mean. Carl Schmidt http://slackerbsd.org/ On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:29:25AM +1000, Adam Clark wrote: >=20 > Hey, > I have a default catchall ipfilter rule and when I nmap my box > it returns: >=20 > Starting nmap V. 2.52 by fyodor@insecure.org ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) > Interesting ports on MyHost ( MYIP ): > (The 1515 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) > Port State Service > 25/tcp filtered smtp > 137/tcp filtered netbios-ns > 138/tcp filtered netbios-dgm > 139/tcp filtered netbios-ssn > 1080/tcp filtered socks >=20 > Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 23 seconds >=20 > yet all those services are not running on my machine, why would these app= ear > as filtered? > it obviously drops the packet before IPFILTER can even analyse it >=20 > version: > FreeBSD milkrun.wiggedy 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #6: Fri Apr 13 20:48:43 EST > 2001 root@milkrun.wiggedy:/usr/src/sys/compile/CYZZAATHOME i386 >=20 > Although this a a very upto date build of freebsd, i have seen this in > versions all the way back to the 4.0 iso release >=20 > I have many services running, like web and ftp. but they dont show up. > I havent got special rules for these services. >=20 > if I telnet into 23 I get this > 16/04/2001 14:52:14.372837 rl0 @5:10 b src-ip,3734 -> my-ip,23 PR tcp len= 20 > 44 -S IN >=20 > if I telnet into 25, it doesnt even show up in the log > which proves my point about there is something BEFORE ipf that is deciding > what to do with these > packets >=20 > These are the rules I am using > block return-rst in log on rl0 proto tcp all > block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log on rl0 proto udp all >=20 > they are the last in the set apart from the out rules which are > pass out quick on rl0 proto tcp from my-ip/32 to any keep state > pass out quick on rl0 proto udp from my-ip/32 to any keep state > pass out quick on rl0 proto icmp from my-ip/32 to any keep state >=20 > so every packet that comes in the interface gets reset > hence all packets should be the same and should come up CLOSED by nmap not > filtered >=20 > Adam --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: ajPB2BQ/eQyx9ivMcA5qTHI97EZo3FB+ iQA/AwUBOt23CMnZAPSvxuenEQKEAwCdGBMwMfMz8uwWcfJc0LT3dGVInrMAoNpU KnKFghZAnWsBhWgLpxYbY9uy =0MCJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 8:51:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9937437B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:51:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14puEd-000Fhe-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:51:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:51:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: Mike Meyer Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup and Verify In-Reply-To: <15069.13630.549850.806893@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This box is actually a web server, and the only files that change is when our web developer uploads files to the box, and email coming in. Don't care so much about the email as much as I do the configuration files. Same goes for the web server. Don't care much about the content as much as I do about the config files because my web developer has a copy of the entire site on her PC at work, and at home. In this sense, It would be possible to do a hot backup rather than shutting the system down to single user mode and taking down the entire site. As far as the verify, maybe I am thinking compare.... It would be nice if I could have a Bootable CD, though that one could put in the CD drive, the CD boot and it will ask to put the last backup in the tape drive, and it will restore the last backup. It needs to be as user friendly as possible because I am the only person in this company capable of operating this box, and if for some reason I leave (quit more likely than getting hit by a Mac truck) the average ordinary layman will need to be able to restore everything by following a checklist of procedures. I don't think that they will be able to do a fresh install of FreeBSD, however, and restore over the top. These are bank tellers we are talking about. On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > Rick Duvall types: > > What is the best way to back up a FreeBSD system to tape and verify the > > backup. I have been trying with dump, but I don't know of any way to > > verify that. Then, I tried tar with the -W option, and that didn't work > > (guess my tape drive doesn't support it). Amanda won't work for us > > because I find it isn't really designed for a single box, but rather for > > backing up and restoring multiple boxes, AND it's too difficult for the > > average ordinary layman to do a disaster recovery with Amanda on a totally > > dead system. > > > > Here are my requirements: > > Your requirements are incomplete, and I'm not sure they can be met as > stated. > > > * Backups must be done on the live system (single machine with a tape > > drive) > > This is a bad idea. Not "you must be out of your gourd" bad, but > "you're asking for trouble" bad. Backups of a live filesystem mean > that you can miss files, or dump bad copies of a file. For > incrementals, this is a minor problem - you've got one or two files > that will need be updated tomorrow. For level 0s, this is a bit of a > problem. If some regularly scheduled activity is causing the file to > be missed, it may never get backed up, which is bad. For instance, if > your backups happen in the midst of updating the financial database, > that database will probably never be backed up. > > > * Backups must be level 0 every time, and must be verified. > > You forgot to specify what happens when the verify fails. > > I'd also be interested to know whether the case where a file is backed > up, then changed before the backup is verified. Does the verify fail? > If not, how is the verification done? Can it fail for just one file, > which needs to be backed up again? > > > * Backups must be logged, especially the verify > > > > * After the verify, the tape must eject. > > These are both pretty trivial. > > > * Must have a disaster recovery solution so that if I get hit by a Mac > > Truck, the average joe blow can do the disaster recovery. I prefer a > > bootable cd they can put in which will boot, and ask for the last tape, > > and will do the restore on a new hard drive, partition it and everything. > > virtually no user input for disaster recovery. > > This seems to imply that you want to back the file system up in a > consistent state. That rules out any solution I know could be made to > work. > > You might be able to use vinum to do this for you. The idea is to > mirror your file system, then when you want a backup, take one mirror > offline, backup that mirror, then put it back and let vinum resync the > two drives. You could still catch the file system in the middle of a > transaction, which might or might not be acceptable. > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 9: 6:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9873B37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:06:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14puTW-000Fjz-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:06:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:06:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Flexbackup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anybody have any experience with the flexbackup port? I am getting errors. I am using perl 5.6.0... thanks... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 9: 6:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F4637B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:06:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14puTX-0008UN-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:06:39 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IG6Zm12629; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:06:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:06:35 +0100 From: Rasputin To: estair@computer-exchange.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: build kernel fails after CVSup, unsure of cause: errors included. Message-ID: <20010418170635.A12203@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <001c01c0c810$94cf0100$a949d5d1@mshome.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <001c01c0c810$94cf0100$a949d5d1@mshome.net>; from estair@computer-exchange.com on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:05:08AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * estair@computer-exchange.com [010418 15:05]: > Hello all, I'm running FreeBSD-Current.5-12-2001, and have just CVSup'd > all source into /usr. After starting my kernel config file fresh from the > new > GENERIC included, I run 'make depend' from the kernel build directory only > to have it fail after about a minute with the included errors. > That's not how you build a kernel. cd /usr/src make buildworld make kernel KERNCONF=WHATEVER reboot make installworld mergemaster Also, are you sure you want to be running CURRENT? Current for people who are either developing the kernel or don't mind having a system that is broken sometimes. > .....I'm not *positive* what sources I CVSup'd, i.e. whether they are the > most recent 5-14-2001 or not. There doesn't seem to be a CVSup server > for the -Current build, current.freebsd.org doesn't work. > ......Can anyone point me in the direction of a > 5-Current CVSup server if that is my problem? Sorry, you just asked the equivalent of: "I've loaded 6 bullets into my '.357 Magnum' hairdryer, pointed it at my head and pulled the 'dry' trigger, and it's not working. Someone said I had to turn the 'safety' off, please tell me how." Decide if you want STABLE or CURRENT first. If you need more answers after that, you can mail me direct if you like. (it actually looks like you have got CURRENT source there, now decide if you want it.) -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 9: 7:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCB1D37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:07:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from unknown (HELO as2.kptn.org) (210.186.38.162) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 16:07:38 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:10:31 +0800 From: Alvin Sim X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52 Beta/4) Reply-To: Alvin Sim Organization: n/a X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5222085677.20010419001031@yahoo.co.uk> To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re[4]: stop ppp dialing on boot In-Reply-To: <20010418073412.A216997@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca> References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> <20010418112258.A7234@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <1076649851.20010418195315@yahoo.co.uk> <20010418073412.A216997@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 09:34:13 PM, Duke Normandin wrote: DN> On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 07:53:15PM +0800, Alvin Sim wrote: [...snip...] DN> I seem to recall from the time I went through this exercise, that DN> "sendmail" was the culprit doing DNS lookups. I believe that i cured the DN> problem by disabling 'dns' in ppp.conf. Check the mailing list archives - DN> I'm sure that there is *lots* of material on this issue. Later... unfortunately, i do not have sendmail enabled. all thats startup during boot is samba and sshd from /usr/local/etc/rc.d. i have disabled 'enable dns' in ppp.conf. it still dials :( i _think_ its really a dns problem, as you've mentioned. thanks for pointing that out. now i know what to search for, i think :) -- Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 9:23: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3874137B440 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:22:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from unknown (HELO as2.kptn.org) (210.186.38.162) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 16:22:46 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:26:41 +0800 From: Alvin Sim X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52 Beta/4) Reply-To: Alvin Sim Organization: n/a X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17823055472.20010419002641@yahoo.co.uk> To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re[4]: stop ppp dialing on boot In-Reply-To: <20010418164710.A12087@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <395951968.20010418112232@yahoo.co.uk> <20010418112258.A7234@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <1076649851.20010418195315@yahoo.co.uk> <20010418073412.A216997@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca> <20010418164710.A12087@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 11:47:10 PM, Rasputin wrote: [...snip...] >> > R> Find out what's bringing up the line. >> > R> Chances are one of your daemons does a DNS test or similar when it starts up. >> > >> > this just might be it but... how do i see which is starting up the >> > dns test search? i have `inetd' disabled in rc.conf and the only >> > thing thats in /usr/local/etc/rc.d are: R> One of those is probably making DNS queries. yes, i am quite sure now that it is a dns lookup problem. R> If you are logged in as it boots, try sockstat -4 R> see what is using the network. will do just that. R> (a dns query can come from anywhere but will ber travelling to the R> IP of one of your nameservers addressed ot port 53 udp/tcp) R> Once you know what kind of traffic is bringing up the line, R> as Duke said, man ppp should give you some idea how to limit R> what will bring up the PPP link. R> There's a sample file somewhere rilly obvious R> (either the Handbook or the Pedantic PPP Primer) that shows you R> how to selectively bring up the line on a per-protocol basis. i think it's the later and has something to do with ppp filters. if it is, then maybe i should take a look at my ipfw/natd config rules (which is now set to "open") i'll have a look some more in the morning. time to get some shut-eye for now. thanks for all the help... for today :) >> "sendmail" was the culprit doing DNS lookups. I believe that i cured the >> problem by disabling 'dns' in ppp.conf. Check the mailing list archives - -- Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 9:29:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD1D637B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:29:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 25646 invoked by uid 100); 18 Apr 2001 16:29:48 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.49404.687348.64785@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:29:48 -0500 To: Rick Duvall Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup and Verify In-Reply-To: References: <15069.13630.549850.806893@guru.mired.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rick Duvall types: > This box is actually a web server, and the only files that change is when > our web developer uploads files to the box, and email coming in. Don't > care so much about the email as much as I do the configuration > files. Same goes for the web server. Don't care much about the content > as much as I do about the config files because my web developer has a copy > of the entire site on her PC at work, and at home. That's a *radically* different problem. I've solved it a number of times. > As far as the verify, maybe I am thinking compare.... It would be nice if > I could have a Bootable CD, though that one could put in the CD drive, the > CD boot and it will ask to put the last backup in the tape drive, and it > will restore the last backup. It needs to be as user friendly as possible > because I am the only person in this company capable of operating this > box, and if for some reason I leave (quit more likely than getting hit by > a Mac truck) the average ordinary layman will need to be able to restore > everything by following a checklist of procedures. I don't think that > they will be able to do a fresh install of FreeBSD, however, and restore > over the top. These are bank tellers we are talking about. In that case, you need a custom CD that boots and installs FreeBSD for them. You really only need to recreate it whenever you change the configuration files. For that matter, why not put the web docs on /var, and put / on a CDROM? When you go, copy an ISO image of the thing over to a Windows box and provide instructions for burning a new one. Provide a script that formats that builds /var on the C drive on it, and you're done. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 9:34:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tethys.valhalla.net (tethys.valhalla.net [195.26.32.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB1D37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:34:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@tethys.valhalla.net) Received: by tethys.valhalla.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id 8F72C32E80; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:34:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:34:48 +0100 From: Mark Drayton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ssh and firewall problem Message-ID: <20010418173448.A8646@tethys.valhalla.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I'm just setting up a FreeBSD machine as a cable modem router and firewall for a friend. The firewall should be closed apart from ssh access. I've got the following rules (I took out the RFC 1918 rules when testing): dc0: outside - 213.105.xx.xx fxp0: inside - 192.168.0.254 The modem is accessible through 192.168.100.1, hence the allow rules. 00100 divert 8668 ip from any to any via dc0 00150 allow icmp from any to any 00200 allow ip from any to any out xmit dc0 00300 allow tcp from 192.168.100.1 to any in recv dc0 00300 allow tcp from any to 192.168.100.1 out xmit dc0 00400 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00400 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 00400 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any 00600 allow tcp from any to any established 00700 allow ip from any to any frag 00900 allow tcp from any to 213.105.xx.xx 22 setup 00900 allow tcp from any to 213.105.xx.xx 79 setup 01000 deny log logamount 100 tcp from any to any in recv dc0 setup 01100 allow tcp from any to any setup 01200 allow udp from 213.105.xx.xx to any 53 keep-state 65535 deny ip from any to any I can't ssh into the machine at all when the firewall is up. I'm getting these messages in the logs: Apr 18 16:54:23 keema sshd[18529]: fatal: Write failed: Permission denied and sometimes: Apr 18 16:54:23 keema natd[259]: failed to write packet back (Permission denied) The top error happens regardless of the divert rule, and the bottom one only with the divert rule. I've tried running an sshd on a high port (22222) but I can't get a prompt there either. I'm getting no ipfw connection denied entries, just these permission denied messages. I also enabled finger, which works fine. I'm assuming this is because an entire finger session is conducted with only one or two packets, whereas ssh has quite a complex setup which is somehow being broken by my firewall. With the firewall off ('open' in rc.conf) I can ssh in fine so it's not a problem with the cable modem company blocking access. Thanks, -- Mark Drayton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 9:37:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D1237B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:37:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14puxf-000Fn4-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:37:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:37:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: Mike Meyer Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup and Verify In-Reply-To: <15069.49404.687348.64785@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, on the Bootable cd is another place I am having trouble. Actually, in a couple of places. The first place I am having trouble with is to actually get the CD to boot, and run my own install program rather than the regular FreeBSD install. mkisofs will create the image, but I don't know how to write boot blocks to it. Another problem is, how do I create a custom install program? Maybe a shell script would be easier than that ANSI install program. But, even at that, how can i write a script that will automatically detect the new hard drive (replacement drive), partition, label, and format it to my specs without them having to specify the values themselves? On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > Rick Duvall types: > > This box is actually a web server, and the only files that change is when > > our web developer uploads files to the box, and email coming in. Don't > > care so much about the email as much as I do the configuration > > files. Same goes for the web server. Don't care much about the content > > as much as I do about the config files because my web developer has a copy > > of the entire site on her PC at work, and at home. > > That's a *radically* different problem. I've solved it a number of > times. > > > As far as the verify, maybe I am thinking compare.... It would be nice if > > I could have a Bootable CD, though that one could put in the CD drive, the > > CD boot and it will ask to put the last backup in the tape drive, and it > > will restore the last backup. It needs to be as user friendly as possible > > because I am the only person in this company capable of operating this > > box, and if for some reason I leave (quit more likely than getting hit by > > a Mac truck) the average ordinary layman will need to be able to restore > > everything by following a checklist of procedures. I don't think that > > they will be able to do a fresh install of FreeBSD, however, and restore > > over the top. These are bank tellers we are talking about. > > In that case, you need a custom CD that boots and installs FreeBSD for > them. You really only need to recreate it whenever you change the > configuration files. > > For that matter, why not put the web docs on /var, and put / on a > CDROM? When you go, copy an ISO image of the thing over to a Windows > box and provide instructions for burning a new one. Provide a script > that formats that builds /var on the C drive on it, and you're done. > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 9:48:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02F937B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:48:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BD9D3A91E; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:47:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:47:02 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Robert Clark , michael@tenzo.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Naming ethernet NICs Message-ID: <20010418114702.B68096@cec.wustl.edu> References: <20010417215639.A54277@darkstar.gte.net> <006801c0c7d6$d5ff9700$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <006801c0c7d6$d5ff9700$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>; from tedm@toybox.placo.com on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 12:11:49AM -0700 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 12:11:49AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > No, that's not what I meant. Note that in that post I > never said that I _didn't like_ having to test each port. :-) > > What I was merely point out is that the original poster was > saying that the "eth0, eth1, eth2..." way of doing things is > superior, and I was just responding that "no, it has problems > too, such as matching up ports to nics" then following it > with an example of ed0, ed1, ed2... I figured that the poster > would be able to grasp that there's no difference between > eth0, eth1, eth2,,, and ed0, ed1, ed2,,, for what he seemed > to think was desirable behavior for having everything named > the same. > > As a matter of fact, I actually don't advocate using different > NICS in routers, because if they are all the same then you > can make a custom compiled kernel a little smaller since you > only have to include 1 nic driver in it. I actually keep different NICs in my router. The extra space used is trivial; PicoBSD still fits on a single floppy. The reason isn't technical, it's just so that I can remember what NIC is what. I touch the box less often than every month, and I don't remember if it's ed1 or ed0 that is connected to my cable modem. But I do remember that dc0 is connected to my hub, which means ed0 must be connected to my cable modem. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 9:52: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED15137B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:52:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14pvBW-000FoM-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:52:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:52:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Support for ISDN Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What ISDN modems does FreeBSD support.... Will FreeBSD be able to aggregate bandwidth over 2 ISDN modems? How about if each ISDN modem has a different IP address, will it be able to load balance? I would like to set up FreeBSD as an ISDN router. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 9:53:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay.wplus.net (relay.wplus.net [195.131.52.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1660037B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:53:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nas@chartpilot.ru) Received: from relay1.wplus.net (smtp.wplus.net [195.131.52.143]) by relay.wplus.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/wplus.2) with ESMTP id UAA71964 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:50:12 +0400 (MSD) X-Real-To: Received: from dimetra (ip93-100.dialup.wplus.net [195.131.93.100]) by relay1.wplus.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/wplus.2) with SMTP id UAA54205 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:53:00 +0400 (MSD) From: "Andrey Nepomnyaschih" To: Subject: Disk perfomance tuning Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:53:56 +0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello over there, Just after setting softupdates on for one more time, I thought if there is others ways to do some more decent perfomace tuning. And I would like to ask have anyone found some good articles on the web, or maybe one has a good experience. In any case could you share it with us. Have a good time, Andrey Nepomnyaschih nas@assystems.lv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 10:16:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C874B37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:16:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA43249; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:16:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:16:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: Mike Meyer Cc: Rick Duvall , Subject: Re: Backup and Verify In-Reply-To: <15069.13630.549850.806893@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > You might be able to use vinum to do this for you. The idea is to > mirror your file system, then when you want a backup, take one > mirror offline, backup that mirror, then put it back and let vinum > resync the two drives. You could still catch the file system in > the middle of a transaction, which might or might not be > acceptable. Its not a good idea to just break the mirror and hope you've got what you want on it and in the right order after fsck gets done cleaning up any possible messes. If you just don't want to or can't have things down for an extended period of time (many minutes or even hours) in order to create a clean and consistent backup, then you will have to shut everything down just long enough to get everything on the filesystem in order, sync it up, possibly even re-mount it read-only to get the mark of approval (clean flag) on it, break the mirror, and then bring everything back to life again. At that point you should have a copy of a clean filesystem with all of your databases/etc in a consistent state on the broken mirror, and it only took you a couple of minutes to get it. Ideally, you'd want to use a _third_ mirrored disk for this so that you are always redundant. I'm not sure if Vinum supports mirroring more than two drives, though. Kirk's snapshot code in -current would also be ideal for situations like this. Shut everything down and let all of your services clean up their messes, take a snapshot of the filesystem, bring everything back to life, and then backup the snapshot. Again, a downtime of only a couple of minutes in most cases. If you can't suffer _any_ downtime at all to make a good backup, you've got a whole different class of problem that needs some serious (seriously expensive) hardware and software to solve. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For IA32 and Alpha architectures. IA64, PPC, and ARM under development. http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 10:22:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.arena.pl (mailhub.arena.pl [194.153.133.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3ACE37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:22:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from belzebub@poczta.arena.pl) Received: from c1.barbara.ds.polsl.gliwice.pl ([157.158.183.1]) by mailhub.arena.pl (Arena SMTP) with ESMTP id GC009J02.D4E for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:22:31 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:21:44 +0200 From: "Fenix xxx" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Questions Message-Id: <20010418192144.4ff780cb.belzebub@poczta.arena.pl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.64 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.2) Organization: Forbidden Dreams Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Is it possible to link staticaly only one library. I want only to link SDL staticaly without X, esd and other libraries. Fnx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 10:23:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sccoast.net (ns1.sccoast.net [205.218.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BEB37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dljones@sccoast.net) Received: by ns1.sccoast.net id NAA0000026179; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010418133458.00797e90@sccoast.net> X-Sender: dljones@sccoast.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:34:58 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: duane jones Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What i am looking for is,a program that will allow me to provide my own internet service from my home, without having to pay an ISP! can i do this with FreeBSD Check out our home page at To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 10:32: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rigel.pucrs.br (rigel.pucrs.br [200.132.10.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1111F37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:32:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apolli@pucrs.br) Received: from aegis (aegis.pucrs.br [200.132.13.12]) by rigel.pucrs.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA09716 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:29:29 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from apolli@pucrs.br) Message-ID: <005001c0c82c$aa0f0080$0c0d84c8@pucrs.br> From: "Alexandre Polli" To: "bsd-lista" Subject: PERC3 SCSI controller Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:26:11 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01C0C813.8487CCC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C0C813.8487CCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings; Anyone knows if FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE has support for PERC3/Si = controllers? Just got a Dell PowerEdge 2450 and it features one of these = boards. Thanks in advance! ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C0C813.8487CCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings;
 
  Anyone knows if FreeBSD = 4.2-STABLE has=20 support for PERC3/Si controllers? Just got a Dell PowerEdge 2450 and it = features=20 one of these boards.
 
Thanks in = advance!
------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C0C813.8487CCC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 10:34:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from daisymae.austintx.com (mail.austintx.com [208.24.54.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D73C37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgreene@austintx.com) Received: from [208.24.52.135] (IDENT:rgreene@[208.24.52.135]) by daisymae.austintx.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18648; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:30:33 -0500 Subject: Re: No Subject From: Bob Greene To: duane jones Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010418133458.00797e90@sccoast.net> References: <3.0.5.32.20010418133458.00797e90@sccoast.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.10+cvs.2001.04.11.08.00 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Apr 2001 12:43:08 -0500 Message-Id: <987615790.1103.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 18 Apr 2001 13:34:58 -0400, duane jones wrote: > What i am looking for is,a program that will allow me to provide my own > internet service from my home, without having to pay an ISP! can i do this > with FreeBSD > Check out our home page at > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > How much do you plan on spending to accomplish this? Setting up an ISP is not cheap and unless you're a national carrier, you'll still have an ISP of your own at some level. -- Bob Greene AustinTX.COM 512.835.8005 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 10:39:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.prokk.net (smtp.prokk.net [194.42.198.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06BC37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:39:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@prokk.net) Received: from user6.prokk.net (user6.prokk.net [194.42.198.106]) by smtp.prokk.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IHdKI49582 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:39:24 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:39:47 +0300 From: green X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49e) Reply-To: green Organization: home X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7910201417.20010418203947@prokk.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: silo overflow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi freebsd-questions ! periodicaly i get this messages on console: /kernel: sio1: 1 more silo overflow (total 1) /kernel: sio1: 1 more silo overflow (total 1) /kernel: sio1: 1 more silo overflow (total 1) what does this messages mean ? -------------- green@prokk.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 10:40:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C1D37B43F for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14pvw4-000Fv1-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:40:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:40:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall Cc: duane jones , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No Subject In-Reply-To: <987615790.1103.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, you need a terminal server for providing for either 56K, ISDN, or analog 33.6 modem connections, as well as a channelized T1 and/or PRI to the telco with dialtone on a number of channels. You can get a Terminal server with a serial port in which you can plug in an external CSU to interface with a T1 line to your upstream provider. What services are you planning on offering? You will have to price out the T1 to run the IP over, and you will have to price out the T1 for dialup. That will average you (if you are in a small town) about $4000/mo, plus the installation charge. The terminal server will cost around 4-12K$. FreeBSD would do radius authentication... If you want REALLY small ISP with as many modems as you have PCI slots and some analog phone lines, then that a different issue alltogether. On 18 Apr 2001, Bob Greene wrote: > On 18 Apr 2001 13:34:58 -0400, duane jones wrote: > > What i am looking for is,a program that will allow me to provide my own > > internet service from my home, without having to pay an ISP! can i do this > > with FreeBSD > > Check out our home page at > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > How much do you plan on spending to accomplish this? Setting up an ISP > is not cheap and unless you're a national carrier, you'll still have an > ISP of your own at some level. > > -- > Bob Greene > AustinTX.COM > 512.835.8005 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 10:44:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [64.81.208.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 369CA37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 22686 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2001 17:44:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO book) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 17:44:48 -0000 Message-ID: <005701c0c82f$395a9630$01000001@book> From: "alexus" To: Subject: NAT & ARP Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:44:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG first of all let me tell a bit about my setup i run freebsd 4.2-stable/release i have two NICs card in my computer fxp0 which has external (Internet) ip and dc0 which has internal (intranet) ip i setup nat.. everything working fine although in my logs i get this every other second date .... /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.x is on dc0 but got reply from xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx on fxp0 is it supposte to be like that? or i can somehow make it not log this kind of messages? i dont want to miss important arp watches though like once they changed router on their end and i got notified;) arp ip xx.xxx.xx.xxx (mac: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx) has moved to ip xx.xxx.xx.xxx (mac: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx) i definatly want to keep that To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 10:46:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ctb-mesg1.saix.net (ctb-mesg1.saix.net [196.25.240.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE0B37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:46:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neils@worldonline.co.za) Received: from neil (ctb53-03-p133.wc.saix.net [155.239.138.133]) by ctb-mesg1.saix.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3IHho921935 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:43:51 +0200 (SAT) Message-ID: <000a01c0c82e$aeae8e60$858aef9b@neil> From: "Neil Slater" To: Subject: mounting xenix Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:40:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C83F.7110DFC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C83F.7110DFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To FreeBSD Support: Can a person mount a Xenix partition with FreeBSD? If not , why not and = if you can, would it be the same as mounting any other partition or = cdrom etc.? Thank you very much Neil ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C83F.7110DFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To FreeBSD Support:
 
Can a person mount a Xenix partition = with FreeBSD?=20 If not , why not and if you can, would it be the same as mounting any = other=20 partition or cdrom etc.?
 
Thank you very much
Neil
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C83F.7110DFC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 10:48:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7357A37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:48:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7314B66B38; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:48:30 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: hawk Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010418104830.A35494@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010417113808.A125@xor.obsecurity.org> <200104181432.f3IEWln65664@fac13.ds.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104181432.f3IEWln65664@fac13.ds.psu.edu>; from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:32:47AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:32:47AM -0400, hawk wrote: > kris karped >=20 > > It may require some tweaking; I don't think anyone's seen an SMP AMD > > mobo yet. >=20 > They've been seen; they're just not out yet. I meant that no FreeBSD developer has got their hands on one in order to work on it. Kris --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63dNuWry0BWjoQKURAohxAKCu7VOzMkm4q9uxyaqVJ+wAgTbCtACdH5mH FozW+llELZyNpuzcDkKxmp4= =vY/o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 10:56:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx2out.umbc.edu (mx2out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59C637B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:56:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu) Received: from irix1.gl.umbc.edu (gmiddl1@irix1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.8]) by mx2out.umbc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29902 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:56:04 -0400 From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: Subject: KDE and X-windows setup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I finally got around to actually using freebsd on my workstation and i have ran xf86config and when i run startx from the command line it goes into x-windows..with no problems. I want to use KDE as my window manager (unless someone tells me GNOME or something else is better to use). Anyway so i ran /stand/sysinstall and installed KDE. Now how do I invoke it as my default window manager? I am sure their is some literature in the Handbook about this and i know there is info all over the web about it. I just wanted to email you guys to see what you are using or doing. The list always seems to respond with a short cut or two for FreeBSD. Regards, G. Jason Middleton _______________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 11: 6: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from abby.skypoint.net (abby.skypoint.net [199.86.32.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0D737B43E for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:06:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pbiessener@hirshfields.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by abby.skypoint.net (8.8.7/jl 1.3) with UUCP id NAA18315 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:04:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from spicer (spicer.hirshfields.com [192.168.195.244]) by fep.hirshfields.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA11808 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:41:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from pbiessener@hirshfields.com) From: "C Peter Biessener" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: re: stop ppp dialing on boot Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:47:15 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We're running FBSD 2.2.6 and had a similar problem trying to configure 'ppp -auto' to dial one of our remotes locations. What I can tell you is to read the user ppp man page and to enable packet filtering for your 'provider' section in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. While debugging the connection add the line 'set log +tcp/ip' to see what service is causing the dial-up (tail -f /var/log/ppp.log), then add a dial filter to deny that service. For us, routed was the culprit. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Alvin Sim Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:23 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: stop ppp dialing on boot Hello list, i have been searching around for a way to stop ppp from dialing when the machine boots up but so far, i cannot say that i have found an answer. hopefully someone here can help me out :) i have a very simple lan comprising of a fbsd server (4.3-rc) that serves as a gateway to 2 other machines running ntws and 98. ppp is configured and i can dial 'ppp -auto provider' w/ no problems from a ssh session from nt (telnet is disabled). now, this seems very unconventional that i have to make a ssh session everytime i want to connect to my isp. furthermore, the person behind the machine running 98 has zero knowledge of doing anything of that sort (i.e. telnet, ssh... ) ok, so i set up ppp to dial when there's a connection going out of my lan when the system boots up. but... somehow, it dials everytime it boots up instead of when it detects an outbound connection from my lan. and i dont want that (dialing upon booting up) since i'm charged on a per-minute dialup basis. anyways, i'm including part my rc.conf config if someone can have a look at it and tell me where i did wrong. start my rc.conf =========================================================== # ### Basic network: ### network_interfaces="lo0 rl0" ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" hostname="my.domain.org" # ### Network routing options: ### gateway_enable="YES" router_enable="NO" defaultrouter="NO" forward_sourceroute="NO" accept_sourceroute="NO" tcp_drop_synfin="NO" # Set to YES to drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN tcp_restrict_rst="NO" # Set to YES to restrict emission of RST firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="open" firewall_quite="YES" natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="tun0" natd_flags="-dynamic" # # User ppp configuration. ppp_enable="YES" ppp_mode="auto" ppp_nat="NO" ppp_profile="provider" =========================================================== end my rc.conf if ppp_enable="NO", i then have to manually dial. if ppp_enable="YES", it dials on booting up :( so, how can i make it dial ONLY when it detects an outbound traffic? thanks for looking into this. -- Alvin mailto:bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 11: 6:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail01.domainbank.com (mail.domainbank.com [209.92.184.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C29137B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:06:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdmiller@domainbank.com) Received: from mordor (mordor.domainbank.com [192.168.2.18]) by mail01.domainbank.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.5.186) with SMTP id ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:06:08 -0400 Message-ID: <040401c0c832$3e75a030$1202a8c0@domainbank.com> From: "Jeff Miller" To: "G. Jason Middleton" , References: Subject: Re: KDE and X-windows setup Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:06:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you want to do it just by a user by user basis, then in the user home directory create a .xinitrc and just have 'startkde' (no quotes) in it. If it is for all users, then I think it is /usr/X11R6/etc/xinitrc ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 1:56 PM Subject: KDE and X-windows setup > I finally got around to actually using freebsd on my workstation and i > have ran xf86config and when i run startx from the command line it goes > into x-windows..with no problems. I want to use KDE as my window manager > (unless someone tells me GNOME or something else is better to use). > Anyway so i ran /stand/sysinstall and installed KDE. Now how do I invoke > it as my default window manager? I am sure their is some literature in > the Handbook about this and i know there is info all over the web about > it. I just wanted to email you guys to see what you are using or doing. > The list always seems to respond with a short cut or two for FreeBSD. > > Regards, > > G. Jason Middleton > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 11: 6:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dsl-64-192-175-9.telocity.com (dsl-64-192-175-9.telocity.com [64.192.175.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35F537B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:06:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajhar@physics.miami.edu) Received: (from ajhar@localhost) by dsl-64-192-175-9.telocity.com (8.11.3/8.11.3/EAA-2001Mar23) id f3II6pN20629; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:06:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ajhar) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Does X change default erase char from ^? to ^H ? From: Edward Ajhar Date: 18 Apr 2001 14:06:50 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've checked the FAQ and the mailing list archives, and I have not found an answer to this question. I changed from 3-stable to 4-stable about a month ago, and now stty shows that my erase char is ^H instead of the usual default ^? setting. (I know all about this issue as I have been using unix for 17 years. I am not changing the setting myself.) So, does anyone know where it is being changed? Does X, knowing what keyboard I am using, assume (1) that the labeled "Backspace" will produce "^H" and (2) that I would therefore want "^H" to be my erase character? If so, how can I make X stop doing that? Or, have I missed something? I double checked with /usr/include/sys/ttydefaults.h, and it indeed has 0177 as the default erase char. I am using XFree86 3.3.6. Thank you for any help anyone can offer. --Ed Ajhar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 11: 8: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ringworld.nanolink.com (ringworld.nanolink.com [195.24.48.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B031837B43C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@orbitel.bg) Received: (qmail 2442 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Apr 2001 18:06:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:06:22 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: A real stupid-like sessions / group leaders / shells question Message-ID: <20010418210622.A2272@ringworld.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, so this might be really really really stupid, but.. FreeBSD/i386 (ringworld.oblivion.bg) (ttyv4) login: roam Password: Last login: Wed Apr 18 21:01:16 on ttyv4 Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. This is a MOTD. Live with it. > echo $SHELL /bin/tcsh > tcsh > kill -STOP $$ Suspended (signal) > bg %1 [1] tcsh & > > FreeBSD/i386 (ringworld.oblivion.bg) (ttyv4) login: I somewhat fail to see why a 'bg' of a child process should kill the parent shell.. I can reproduce this with various combinations of csh, tcsh and bash as either the login or the child shells. csh/tcsh is the one from today's -stable, bash is 2.05 from ports. G'luck, Peter -- This sentence contains exactly threee erors. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 11:11: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spring.thepond.com (spring.thepond.com [209.122.157.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1FF37B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:11:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from minime@spring.thepond.com) Received: from localhost (minime@localhost) by spring.thepond.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02928 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:19:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from minime@spring.thepond.com) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:19:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan To: FreeBSD mailing list Subject: make buildworld fails Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I suppose I should preface this by saying this is my first kernel upgrage (going from 4.1-RELEASE to 4.3). When I tried to make buildworld it bottomed out on me. It looked like it was tailing off at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus I went to said directory and tried a sudo make. it dumped with the error cc: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a: No such file or directory *** Error code 1. I could sure use a hand...searching the mailing list on freebsd.org hasn't really turned up much useful, and unfortunately, I've exhausted the knowledge/patience of my collegues :) If I've not provided enough information, please let me know what else I should include. TIA, Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 11:21:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oscar.flatiron.net (oscar.flatiron.net [38.144.48.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF5E37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:21:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from terrence@flatiron.net) Received: from localhost (terrence@localhost) by oscar.flatiron.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA40227 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:20:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from terrence@flatiron.net) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:20:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Beale To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SMP on Intel 370DLR+ mb Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm trying to use SMP on a 370DLR+ motherboard. The system is a supermicro 6010L. I'm experiencing the same bug that the supermicro P6 DNE had, with the 8254 timer interupt being misreported to the I/O APIC. The fix used to be to add this option to the kernel config: options SMP_TIMER_NC /usr/sbin/config complains that this is an "unknown option". I'm using freebsd 4.2. Presumably this worked on previous versions. Has anyone else encountered this that could possibly suggest a current workaround? -Terrence To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 11:21:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.inwind.it (relay2.inwind.it [212.141.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335BE37B496 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:21:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fcasadei@inwind.it) Received: from [62.98.201.28] (62.98.201.28) by relay2.inwind.it (5.5.025) id 3ADDAB460000B41E for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:21:26 +0200 Received: (qmail 1648 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Apr 2001 18:20:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:20:29 +0200 From: Francesco Casadei To: Matthew King Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Users Message-ID: <20010418202029.A1569@goku.kasby> References: <000801c0c7f6$0d80c900$0200a8c0@win2kbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000801c0c7f6$0d80c900$0200a8c0@win2kbox>; from revghost8@dingoblue.net.au on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 08:55:15PM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 08:55:15PM +1000, Matthew King wrote: > Hi, > i was wondering, is there a way i can give my users (/usr/home) FTP acces= s but now telnet access? > If so can you please tell me how to do it. >=20 > Thanx >=20 > Matthew > end of the original message Set the user's shell to /sbin/nologin, it shows the message "This account is currently not available." and then exits. # pw usermod username -s /sbin/nologin where username is the name of the user you don't want to be able to login. Francesco Casadei --=20 You can download my public key from http://digilander.iol.it/fcasadei/ or retrieve it from a keyserver (pgpkeys.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net, ...) Key fingerprint is: 1671 9A23 ACB4 520A E7EE 00B0 7EC3 375F 164E B17B --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63drtfsM3XxZOsXsRAh3JAKDsL64Av9BoRP//csmC1zv5UVqYRgCgh69R HMvb2sI7xRMYG9u0vtnJ+fU= =9E6Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 11:34: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570BB37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3IIY4h43671 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:34:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3IIY3443657; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:34:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.5.100] (may be forged)) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.3/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3IIXt601813; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:33:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <009801c0c836$44c62780$6405a8c0@neland.dk> From: "Leif Neland" To: "bukky oluwaranti" , References: <20010418120709.84329.qmail@web12003.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Internet access Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:34:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f3IIY3443657 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Our company is a big Insurance company having about > 150 workstation on a Netware 4.01 driven LAN. We > presently have Internet connectivity through an ISP > using direct Radio Link. All workstations are able to > hook unto the Internet via a FreeBSD-based Network > Address Translator (NAT) server. > > Our desire is to control indiscriminate Internet > usage. Can you please advise me on how to go about > this Internet access control to prevent staffs from > having access/ surfing Internet during office hour. If you want to discriminate between machines, all machines must have a fixed ip. Either you must enter the ip-adress on each machine, or you must setup your dhcp-server to always give the same ip to the same mac-adress. You must setup the firewall on your FreeBSD server so it is not possible to go directly to the internet, everybody must go through squid proxyserver. On squid you can make rules for during which hours access is open and when it is restricted. You can make rules for adresses which are always blocked, or always open. But you really should start with company rules: Define to your users what is acceptable use and what is not. Make it clear that usage can be measured and monitored. Decide beforehand what are the consequenses of abuse. Have all this in writing. It is really difficult to write a firewall rules to decide whether access to a site is nessecary for performing the job. It is better to have access under responsibility. Only if it goes entirely into abuse, you can consider applying technical limitations. But really, if you are trying to solve a problem with technical means, which should have been solved by the manager, the company has a much larger problem. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 11:39:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9FF37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:39:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3IIdl453395 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:39:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3IIdkC53389 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:39:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.5.100] (may be forged)) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.3/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3IIdW601832 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:39:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <00f901c0c837$0d5366e0$6405a8c0@neland.dk> From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: device_probe_and_attach: ed0 attach returned 2 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:40:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f3IIdkC53389 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I try to add a second NIC to my gateway machine running -current. (Will be getting ADSL may 10, may 15 my 24h flatrate ISDN changes to 8h flatrate, rest minute charge, talk about timing. So I have 22 days to get this fixed) The first card is a D-LINK 250 isa, it was ed0, but by changing device.hints it became ed1; it is working. The second card is a RealTek 8029 pci. I get the errormessage: device_probe_and_attach: ed0 attach returned 2 I've searched the archives and only found the advice to turn off pnp in the bios. However, my old dec bios does not have that option, neither do I have PNPBIOS in my kernel config (I think that option is depreciated btw) The machine does not have ide-disks, so int15 is available. Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #9: Wed Apr 4 18:49:51 CEST 2001 root@gina.neland.dk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARNOLD Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 59973117 Hz CPU: Pentium/P5 (59.97-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x515 Stepping = 5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 117440512 (114688K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03eb000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: at pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 ncr0: port 0xd100-0xd1ff mem 0x20000000-0x200000ff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci0 isab0: at device 2.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 6.0 (no driver attached) ed0: irq 15 at device 7.0 on pci0 device_probe_and_attach: ed0 attach returned 2 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 ed1 at port 0x340-0x35f iomem 0xd8000 irq 10 on isa0 ed1: address 00:80:c8:18:9c:c2, type NE2000 (16 bit) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ D-LINK 250 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc1: at port 0x278-0x27f irq 5 on isa0 ppc1: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip1: on ppbus1 lpt1: on ppbus1 lpt1: Interrupt-driven port ppi1: on ppbus1 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16450 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 isic0: at port 0x200-0x201,0x202-0x203 irq 9 on isa0 isic0: passive stack unit 0 i4btrc: 2 ISDN trace device(s) attached i4bing: 2 i4b NetGraph ISDN B-channel device(s) attached i4btel: 2 ISDN telephony interface device(s) attached i4bisppp: 4 ISDN SyncPPP device(s) attached (VJ header compression) i4b: ISDN call control device attached i4brbch: 2 raw B channel access device(s) attached i4bipr: 2 IP over raw HDLC ISDN device(s) attached (VJ header compression) i4bctl: ISDN system control port attached Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a cd0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers cd0: cd present [234900 x 2048 byte records] da1 at ncr0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4101MB (8399520 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) da3 at ncr0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device da3: 3.300MB/s transfers da3: 231MB (474602 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 231C) da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) da2 at ncr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da2: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C) Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 11:40:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com (ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com [65.8.207.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A0837B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:40:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikes@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com) Received: (from mikes@localhost) by ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3IIdrl17817; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:39:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mikes) From: Mike Squires Message-Id: <200104181839.f3IIdrl17817@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com> Subject: Re: info TCP_NODELAY In-Reply-To: <004601c0c833$940f6ca0$b209bed4@r3h8d7> "from De Munter Erwin at Apr 18, 2001 08:15:34 pm" To: De Munter Erwin Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:39:53 -0500 (EST) Cc: FreeBSD questions X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG De Munter Erwin [ Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, converting... ] > Dear sir, > I've had same problems that you have in the samba newsgroup around 1999 I am currently running 4.3-STABLE with samba 2.0.7 compiled from ports (not the binary installation). I just tested SMB file services and the old NetWare TESTNET.EXE program, writing 65K blocks, ran at wire speed (about 1.05 MB/sec) for as long as I let it run. Client is a Win2K Pro box using encrypted passwords (I believe that you have to compile samba with crypt installed to get this). My smb.conf file is <[global] < < workgroup = SQUIRES < server string = Samba Server < hosts allow = 10.1.5.1 10.1.5.2 10.1.5.3 10.1.5.4 10.1.5.5 10.1.5.6 < load printers = yes < log level = 0 < debug level = 0 < log file = /var/log/log.%m < max log size = 500000 < security = user < interfaces = 10.1.5.1 < encrypt passwords = yes < socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY IPTOS_THROUGHPUT < read raw = yes < write raw = yes < shared mem size = 6291456 < os level = 3 < dns proxy = no < <[homes] < comment = Home Directories < browseable = no < writable = yes < <[printers] < comment = All Printers < path = /var/spool/samba < browseable = no < guest ok = no < writable = no < printable = yes and my kernel contains the following entries to support the "shared mem size" parameter: options SHMMAX="(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)" # HOME for samba options SHMMAXPGS=2048 #HOME for samba but these may not be necessary. MLS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 12: 6:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from alto.i-cable.com (alto.i-cable.com [210.80.60.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8C737B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:06:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lkthomas@hkicable.com) Received: from thomasq1rx10yf ([61.18.16.156]) by alto.i-cable.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05394 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:06:38 +0800 (HKT) From: "Thomas Lau" To: Subject: GCC 3.0 snapshots compile error: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:06:26 +0800 Message-ID: <000601c0c83a$df4dcc50$9c10123d@thomasq1rx10yf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C87D.ED741990" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C87D.ED741990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I wan changed Makefile of snapshot date to 2001-04-16 But I got error in compile progress.. Why? And if you want to try this error, please try it yourself in the ports dir :-) Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C87D.ED741990 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well, I wan changed = Makefile of snapshot date to = 2001-04-16

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And if you want to = try this error, please try it yourself in the ports dir J<= /span>

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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C87D.ED741990-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 12: 8:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from benny.geektank.org (00-04-ac-38-0e-e8.bconnected.net [209.53.63.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5751837B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:08:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by benny.geektank.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3IJ8Bc44438; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:08:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: benny.geektank.org: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:08:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow X-X-Sender: To: Rasputin Cc: Trevin Chow , Subject: Re: ARP message filling my logs In-Reply-To: <20010418111625.A7060@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: <20010418120716.L44424-100000@benny.geektank.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Rasputin wrote: > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.1 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > > on fxp0 > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > > on fxp0 > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 to 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe > > on fxp0 > > > > Why the heck would the MAC address keep changing? > > Two machines with the same IP? No, 2 different machines, I just took 3 messages that were showing up on my console. Someone on the list gave me a sysctl command to invoke to stop the logging of theese messages, but my console is still filling up with them. Any way to stop those? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 12:18:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from benny.geektank.org (00-04-ac-38-0e-e8.bconnected.net [209.53.63.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0118237B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:18:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by benny.geektank.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3IJIS844490; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: benny.geektank.org: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:18:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow X-X-Sender: To: Nate Puri Cc: Philip Hallstrom , Subject: Re: How to people easily update ports with dependencies (such as galeon)? In-Reply-To: <20010418144251.22905.qmail@web3306.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010418121714.J44424-100000@benny.geektank.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does this maintain dependencies of all the ports? For example, if foobar-3.0 depends on barfoo-4.0 and we upgrade barfoo-4.0 to 5.0, is the dependency from foobar-3.0 updated to depend on barfoo-5.0? On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Nate Puri wrote: > Simple, > > do this... > > pkg_version -c > update_ports.sh > > Then go in update_ports.sh and you will see a list up > ports that need to be updated (and their dependencies > will be in there too). Delete the top few lines, add > '#!/bin/sh'; do chmod 755 update_ports.sh, then do > ./update_ports.sh, and > viola!, updated ports. > > Later, > Nate > --- Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > Hi all - > > I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on a > > painless way to > > update a port that has dependencies? > > > > In my case, I currently have galeon-0.10.2 which > > requires glib-1.2.10. I > > currently have glib-1.2.8. The problem is I can > > remove my galeon port, > > and install the new one, but installing the new one > > will install the new > > version of glib without removing the old one. > > > > is there an easy way to tell it to remove any old > > ports of new versions > > it's installing? > > > > thanks! > > > > -philip > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > > the message > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 12:26: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8F3B37B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:26:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 30453 invoked by uid 100); 18 Apr 2001 19:26:03 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.59979.914483.424575@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:26:03 -0500 To: Rick Duvall Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup and Verify In-Reply-To: References: <15069.49404.687348.64785@guru.mired.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rick Duvall types: > Well, on the Bootable cd is another place I am having trouble. Actually, > in a couple of places. I really can't help with that - I've not built a bootable CD either. > The first place I am having trouble with is to actually get the CD to > boot, and run my own install program rather than the regular FreeBSD > install. mkisofs will create the image, but I don't know how to write > boot blocks to it. You don't write boot blocks to it; you tell cdrecord where the boot blocks are, and it builds a bootable CD. > Another problem is, how do I create a custom install program? Maybe a > shell script would be easier than that ANSI install program. But, even at > that, how can i write a script that will automatically detect the new hard > drive (replacement drive), partition, label, and format it to my specs > without them having to specify the values themselves? Why bother detecting the drive? Just assume it's there in the right place, and provide a note that "fdisk: cannot open disk /dev/ad0: Device not configured" means the drive isn't properly installed. With one partition - root on a - the seequence is: fdisk -IB /dev/ad0 disklabel -W /dev/ad0s1 # Just to be sure disklabel -R -B /dev/ad0s1 /etc/restore/system_diskabel disklabel -N /dev/ad0s1 newfs /dev/ad0s1a mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt cd /mnt tar xzf /etc/restore/dump.tar.gz Going with a bootable CD for the root file system of the running system just makes things easier. You drop the two B options, mount on and cd to /var, and make sure the dump.tar.gz has no spooled data in it - mostly just directories. Your instructions have to walk them through dealing with a single-user boot in that case, but after it's up, you tell them: Type the command "/etc/restore/restore" and if that completes properly, type the command "exit". http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 12:30:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from host.lks.net (host.lks.net [216.58.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F76437B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maverick@host.lks.net) Received: (from maverick@localhost) by host.lks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA49085 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:30:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from maverick) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:30:17 -0400 (EDT) From: the MAVERICK Message-Id: <200104181930.PAA49085@host.lks.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Abit KT7 Motherboard Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a VIA chipset with onboard IDE RAID. Is there any known support for this board with it's RAID functionality or any known problems with this board? Thanks & Regards, Michael Jon Vigodda To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 12:55:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAF8937B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:55:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 31117 invoked by uid 100); 18 Apr 2001 19:55:15 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.61731.639595.177690@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:55:15 -0500 To: "Lee, Jaeho" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: does upsd support BACK-UPS from APC In-Reply-To: <5235644@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lee, Jaeho types: > Thanks for the all the response... I learned a lot. > > I have another question. This is off topic actually, please bear with me. > > I selected nut, simply because of the functionality (fancy CGI...) > But my ups did not send the correct signal to my FreeBSD box. > It was because of the cable. My BACK-UPS 300va did not come with serial > cable. > I thought any RS232 cable work. But it doesn't. > > I don't need the analysis of voltages... The only signal I need from UPS is > "I'm dying". > Is this message transferred through normal cable also? Depends on the cable. BACK-UPS uses the the RS-232 control lines to transmit information about the state of the UPS (on battery, on line power, battery low). So your cable has to have those wired up proerly. I suspect you'll have to either make a cable, or order one of the UPS cables. It's all documented in the nut documentation, including diagrams of the various different cable layouts. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 13: 1:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from drama.navipath.com (drama.navipath.com [216.67.14.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CA837B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrie@navipath.com) Received: from boom.navipath.com (forrie.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.132.133]) by drama.navipath.com with id f3IK1Ff98884 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010418155907.01e6d9c0@216.67.14.69> X-Sender: forrie@216.67.14.8 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:00:35 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Forrest Aldrich Subject: Problem with linux_base resetting LD_LIBRARY_PATH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have FSAV (from F-Prot) running on FreeBSD-4.3RC. Every time I run it, it works fine... but when I go to run a standard FreeBSD binary, I get problems. For example: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc-client4.so.8" not found Connection closed by foreign host The solution has been to reboot and not run the linux binary. Has anyone else seen this problem... is there a workaround. _F To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 13: 8:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from godfather.webvolution.net (godfather.webvolution.net [208.231.0.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BD837B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:08:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleal@webvolution.net) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by godfather.webvolution.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA15229 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:08:13 +0100 (WEST) (envelope-from dleal@webvolution.net) From: Daniel Leal X-Authentication-Warning: godfather.webvolution.net: nobody set sender to dleal@webvolution.net using -f To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: geforce question Message-ID: <987624493.3addf42d47242@mail.webvolution.net> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:08:13 +0100 (WEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 195.23.223.115 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi everyone!! I've been reading the mailing lists to find out if the geforce 2 works fine with xfree86 4.02 under freebsd. I think a understand that it works fine (its a litle complicated to configure but it works, isnt it?). But my question is a litle more stupid...: Does this means that any geforce2 will work fine, or just for example, nvidia's or asus's ??? Can someone tell me something about that please? Thanks daniel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 13:12:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1501E37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:12:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 31669 invoked by uid 100); 18 Apr 2001 20:12:11 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.62747.381019.993262@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:12:11 -0500 To: Odhiambo Washington , Nate Puri Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to people easily update ports with dependencies (such as galeon)? In-Reply-To: <96092713@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Odhiambo Washington types: > Since you've come up with this, lemme give my own view on it. I realized th= > at other than a > direct dependancy that you can point (i.e. by going into /usr/ports/www/gal= > eon and doing > 'make all-depends-list), you'll also find that there are cross dependancies= > - that other > than galeon depending on glib, other ports might also depend on it too. My = > way of doing this > has been to 'feel nothing' and just update (via make install) and let new v= > ersions of > dependancies install and I've always assumed that by letting things install= > on the default > location, they will always (overwrite???) the old files and as long as noth= > ing breaks, I > still feel nothing ;-)=20 The only problem with this is that you may leave files from the old port around that weren't in the new one. Just a waste of disk space, unless those files are man pages or commands - in which case you may have out of date documentation or commands. Doing a "pkg_delete -f " before doing the install cleans all that up for you. Nate Puri types: > Simple, > > do this... > > pkg_version -c > update_ports.sh > > Then go in update_ports.sh and you will see a list up > ports that need to be updated (and their dependencies > will be in there too). Delete the top few lines, add > '#!/bin/sh'; do chmod 755 update_ports.sh, then do > ./update_ports.sh, and > viola!, updated ports. pkg_version -c outputs a script that updates all the ports, and does the pkg_delete -f I recommend above. It's also a bit more careful, making sure the new port will build before it deletes the old version and installs the new one. You can skip adding the "#!/bin/sh" and the chmod; just do "sh ./update_ports.sh", and it'll work. Finally, the *reason* those first few lines are there is because the author of pkg_version knows that blindly executing the output can break things, and wants you to look at the script before you run it. If you run the script without looking at it and break something, you've got no one to blame but yourself. Later, > Nate > --- Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > Hi all - > > I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on a > > painless way to > > update a port that has dependencies? > > > > In my case, I currently have galeon-0.10.2 which > > requires glib-1.2.10. I > > currently have glib-1.2.8. The problem is I can > > remove my galeon port, > > and install the new one, but installing the new one > > will install the new > > version of glib without removing the old one. > > > > is there an easy way to tell it to remove any old > > ports of new versions > > it's installing? > > > > thanks! > > > > -philip > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > > the message > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 13:24:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f113.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C9537B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:24:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from voodo21@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:24:38 -0700 Received: from 216.227.28.173 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:24:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.227.28.173] From: "Andy Johnson" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem with configure scripts Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:24:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2001 20:24:38.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[9798B540:01C0C845] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having a problem compiling programs that use a configure script (which is most programs). When I run a configure script, I receive this error: checking whether build environment is sane... configure: error: ls -t appears to fail. Make sure there is not a broken alias in your environment configure: error: newly created file is older than distributed files! Check your system clock There are NO aliases in my environment (I unalias -a to be sure) and my clock is correct. ls -t appears to work as it should, listing the most recently modified files first. For example, conftestfile is the file the configure script creates to test whether ls -t is working, then it seems to essentially execute this command: $ ls -t configure conftestfile conftestfile configure This seems to work as it should, listing conftestfile first. So, my question is, does anyone have an idea what else could be causing the problem? Thanks, Andrew _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 13:47:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from vdsi.net (vdsi.net [206.67.5.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CDC37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:47:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rseals@vdsi.net) Received: from rsealslaptop (user56.cymtec.com [63.113.67.56]) by vdsi.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA23873 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:47:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rseals@vdsi.net) Reply-To: From: "Ray Seals" To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Using FreeBSD as an X workstation - Not sure how to word question Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:47:02 -0500 Message-ID: <003801c0c848$b9749640$3401170a@rsealslaptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want to use my FreeBSD workstation to give me a list of X Machines that I can log into. Once I have selected the machine from the pick list I would get the X Windows Login screen. This would be similar to how running WinAxe on Windows using XDMCP. How can I do this and can I do this. Ray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 13:56:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from suntana.fh-konstanz.de (suntana.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.9.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83AC37B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) Received: from vvl10 (vvl10.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.112.110]) by suntana.fh-konstanz.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA23247; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:56:26 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <003f01c0c84b$0e2b1220$6e70258d@vvl10.fh-konstanz.de> From: "Vahe Khachikyan" To: "G. Jason Middleton" , Subject: Re: KDE and X-windows setup Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:03:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! do the following Actually it should be allready there. go to your home directory use your favorite text editor edit .xinitrc and .xsession files to look like this ## exec startkde ## ## Actually one is enought for startx but I don't remember which one . You can find it in startx script save changes and try startx again. I assume that you have startkde and all required stuff somewhere in your PATH. Regards -- Vahe --- -----Original Message----- From: G. Jason Middleton To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: KDE and X-windows setup >I finally got around to actually using freebsd on my workstation and i >have ran xf86config and when i run startx from the command line it goes >into x-windows..with no problems. I want to use KDE as my window manager >(unless someone tells me GNOME or something else is better to use). >Anyway so i ran /stand/sysinstall and installed KDE. Now how do I invoke >it as my default window manager? I am sure their is some literature in >the Handbook about this and i know there is info all over the web about >it. I just wanted to email you guys to see what you are using or doing. >The list always seems to respond with a short cut or two for FreeBSD. > >Regards, > >G. Jason Middleton > > >___________________________________________________________________________ ____ > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 14: 5:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from suntana.fh-konstanz.de (suntana.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.9.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323FD37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:05:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) Received: from vvl10 (vvl10.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.112.110]) by suntana.fh-konstanz.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA24503; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:05:41 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <007f01c0c84c$586e0990$6e70258d@vvl10.fh-konstanz.de> From: "Vahe Khachikyan" To: , "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Re: Using FreeBSD as an X workstation - Not sure how to word question Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:12:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You should use xdm and configure it to use chooser there is such a programm installed with X You can also try to run chooser from your X session but I think you'll get just the list of available hosts and will not be able to log in. -- Vahe --- -----Original Message----- From: Ray Seals To: 'FreeBSD Questions' Date: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:55 AM Subject: Using FreeBSD as an X workstation - Not sure how to word question >I want to use my FreeBSD workstation to give me a list of X Machines that I >can log into. Once I have selected the machine from the pick list I would >get the X Windows Login screen. This would be similar to how running WinAxe >on Windows using XDMCP. How can I do this and can I do this. > >Ray > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 14:10:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [194.205.134.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAB537B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waynep@zaphod.realtime.co.uk) Received: from zaphod.realtime.co.uk ([194.205.134.208]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14pzCy-00018J-01; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:09:52 +0100 Received: from waynep by zaphod.realtime.co.uk with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14pzCl-0000MG-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:09:39 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: Daniel Leal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: geforce question References: <987624493.3addf42d47242@mail.webvolution.net> Reply-To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Date: 18 Apr 2001 22:09:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <987624493.3addf42d47242@mail.webvolution.net> Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Daniel Leal writes: > I've been reading the mailing lists to find out if the geforce 2 > works fine with xfree86 4.02 under freebsd. I think a understand > that it works fine (its a litle complicated to configure but it > works, isnt it?). But my question is a litle more stupid...: Does > this means that any geforce2 will work fine, or just for example, > nvidia's or asus's ??? The geforce 2 is just a graphics chipset. Many different vendors use this chipset in their graphic boards. Nvidia makes and licences this to other manufacturers like Herculese and Creative Labs. I have a herculese Geforce 2 MX and this works fine with XFree86 4.0.3 You won't get 3D stuff working though, because this part of the driver is a closed-source unit that nvidia have only released for linux. -- - Wayne Pascoe E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 14:12:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [194.205.134.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7607537B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:12:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waynep@zaphod.realtime.co.uk) Received: from zaphod.realtime.co.uk ([194.205.134.208]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14pzF3-00018X-01; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:12:01 +0100 Received: from waynep by zaphod.realtime.co.uk with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14pzEq-0000ML-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:11:48 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Re: Using FreeBSD as an X workstation - Not sure how to word question References: <003801c0c848$b9749640$3401170a@rsealslaptop> Reply-To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Date: 18 Apr 2001 22:11:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <003801c0c848$b9749640$3401170a@rsealslaptop> Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Ray Seals" writes: > I want to use my FreeBSD workstation to give me a list of X Machines that I > can log into. Once I have selected the machine from the pick list I would > get the X Windows Login screen. This would be similar to how running WinAxe > on Windows using XDMCP. How can I do this and can I do this. I normally just use X over ssh when I want to access gui progs on other machines. I run X on my own machine, then do xhost +addressofremotemachine ssh -X machinename then launch the command. ssh handles the authentication as well as making sure that my session is encrypted. It also means that I don't have to run X ports all over the place. I know it's not what you were asking for, but maybe you'll consider it as an alternative... -- - Wayne Pascoe E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 14:12:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8CB37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:12:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cardv@home.com) Received: from marx.marvic.chum ([24.17.229.11]) by femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010418211250.PERP28040.femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com@marx.marvic.chum>; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:12:50 -0700 Received: (from cardv@localhost) by marx.marvic.chum (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id f3IL9x631107; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:09:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:09:59 -0500 From: "Victor R. Cardona" To: Daniel Leal Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: geforce question Message-ID: <20010418160959.C30987@marx.alton1.il.home.com> Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Leal , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <987624493.3addf42d47242@mail.webvolution.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <987624493.3addf42d47242@mail.webvolution.net>; from dleal@webvolution.net on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:08:13PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:08:13PM +0100, Daniel Leal wrote: > Does this means that any geforce2 will work fine, or just for example, nvidia's > or asus's ??? Yes they will all work. Nvidia makes the chip that powers those cards the other companies just license the technology, and make cards based on those chips. Victor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 14:27: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.port.ru (mx6.port.ru [194.67.23.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E559037B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:27:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor_mazur@mail.ru) Received: from sort.kharkov.ua ([194.44.81.80] helo=zorg) by smtp6.port.ru with smtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 14pzTX-0008lP-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:27:00 +0400 Message-ID: <000d01c0c84e$4bb5bde0$1402a8c0@zorg> From: "Igor" To: Subject: Help me, please... 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<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0C867.6B0DFF40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 14:31:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kearneys.ca (cr442866-a.crdva1.bc.wave.home.com [24.115.134.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB72F37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:31:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brent@kearneys.ca) Received: (from brent@localhost) by kearneys.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3ILb9g62120 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brent) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:37:09 -0700 From: Brent Kearney To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: localhost connections Message-ID: <20010418143709.A62002@kearneys.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone know what could be causing this? What uses port 3184? From the /var/log/messages file of a web server running FreeBSD 4.2: Apr 18 14:02:55 mocha /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:3184 from 127.0.0.1:3369 Apr 18 14:02:55 mocha /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:3184 from 127.0.0.1:3341 Apr 18 14:02:55 mocha /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:3184 from 127.0.0.1:3187 Apr 18 14:02:55 mocha /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:3184 from 127.0.0.1:3873 Apr 18 14:02:55 mocha /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:3184 from 127.0.0.1:3188 Apr 18 14:02:55 mocha /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:3184 from 127.0.0.1:3342 Apr 18 14:02:55 mocha /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 127.0.0.1:3184 from 127.0.0.1:3343 Aside from the normal system processes (cron, syslog, etc), the server is running httpd, sshd, imapd, mysqld, smbd and nmbd. netstat -an output includes many of these: udp4 0 0 127.0.0.1.4571 *.* udp4 0 0 127.0.0.1.4322 *.* udp4 0 0 127.0.0.1.4168 *.* udp4 0 0 127.0.0.1.4154 *.* Any suggestions as to what might be the cause, or even how to go about investigating the cause, would be appreciated. Thanks, -Brent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 14:36:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFA937B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:36:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3ILaUF97377 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:36:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3ILaTX97355; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:36:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.5.100] (may be forged)) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.3/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3ILaQ603197; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:36:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <01ab01c0c84f$c0a22fc0$6405a8c0@neland.dk> From: "Leif Neland" To: "Trevin Chow" , "Rasputin" Cc: "Trevin Chow" , References: <20010418120716.L44424-100000@benny.geektank.org> Subject: Re: ARP message filling my logs Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:37:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f3ILaTX97355 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Rasputin wrote: > > > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.1 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > > > on fxp0 > > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > > > on fxp0 > > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 to 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe > > > on fxp0 > > > > > > Why the heck would the MAC address keep changing? > > > > Two machines with the same IP? > > No, 2 different machines, I just took 3 messages that were showing up on > my console. Someone on the list gave me a sysctl command to invoke to > stop the logging of theese messages, but my console is still filling up > with them. Any way to stop those? > It appears you have two nic's, 00:00.... and 40.00.... Are they in the same machine or in two different machines? If they are in the same machine, does one nic have adress 209.53.0.1 and the other 209.53.0.17? I seem to remember sometimes some protocols or daemons answers on the wrong nic/ip. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 14:39:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from MPI-Softtech.Com (mpi.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F7537B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:39:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@earthlink.net) Received: from mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com (dleimbac@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.164]); by MPI-Softtech.Com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MPI-Softtech/evision: 1.3 $) with ESMTP; id QAA19181; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:38:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: geforce question From: Dave Leimbach To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Cc: Daniel Leal , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <987624493.3addf42d47242@mail.webvolution.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.10+cvs.2001.04.16.08.00 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Apr 2001 16:40:15 -0500 Message-Id: <987630016.2442.0.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It should be fine with XFree86 4.0.2. I use one myself! :) Dave On 18 Apr 2001 22:09:39 +0100, Wayne Pascoe wrote: > Daniel Leal writes: > > > > I've been reading the mailing lists to find out if the geforce 2 > > works fine with xfree86 4.02 under freebsd. I think a understand > > that it works fine (its a litle complicated to configure but it > > works, isnt it?). But my question is a litle more stupid...: Does > > this means that any geforce2 will work fine, or just for example, > > nvidia's or asus's ??? > > The geforce 2 is just a graphics chipset. Many different vendors use > this chipset in their graphic boards. Nvidia makes and licences this > to other manufacturers like Herculese and Creative Labs. > > I have a herculese Geforce 2 MX and this works fine with XFree86 4.0.3 > > You won't get 3D stuff working though, because this part of the driver > is a closed-source unit that nvidia have only released for linux. > > -- > - Wayne Pascoe > E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk > Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 > Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 14:46:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF3237B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:46:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from house@lvcm.com) Received: from neoone (cm082.44.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.44.82]) by 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABO63589; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00c801c0c850$c077cef0$1616160a@neoone> From: "JannaDanRich" To: Subject: IPFILTER and 502 port command errors with FTP Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:44:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C5_01C0C816.13971CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01C0C816.13971CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a gateway box that I am using 4.3rc3 and kernel is compiled with = IPFILTER .. and DEFAULT_BLOCK, my ruleset is simple for the moment, have = three pass out quick keep state for proto udp,tcp,icmp with some drop = all short and specific logs for smurf attacks etc .. since at the moment = I have no services to the outside world, that is pretty much it Everytime, my roommate tries to access ftp, he gets 502 error, this is = both in Win2k .. and on his G4 powerbook with OS X .. my RedHat box = works great in passive, but my BSD will not? first thing I have tried is copying rulesets over to different file, and = using only=20 Pass in qucik all from any to any pass out quick all from any to any no go, I even rebooted, just to verify to myself that these rulsets were = in fact loaded .. still same error I did read somewhere that ipnat could not read from drive when kern = security level was set to 2 ..=20 I also found information that IPFILTER couldn't handle the frag packets = associated with FTP .. (this seemed to be a much older version) I was hoping that someone may have experienced this problem or similar = and could advise .. should I ditch IPFILTER and use IPFW and natd? = which worked great on prior setup with an older machine, but never = familiarized myself with IPFW rulesets Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01C0C816.13971CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a gateway box that I am using = 4.3rc3 and=20 kernel is compiled with IPFILTER .. and DEFAULT_BLOCK, my ruleset is = simple for=20 the moment, have three pass out quick keep state for proto=20 udp,tcp,icmp  with some drop all short and specific logs = for=20 smurf attacks etc .. since at the moment I have no services to the = outside=20 world, that is pretty much it
 
Everytime, my roommate tries to access = ftp, he gets=20 502 error, this is both in Win2k .. and on his G4 powerbook with OS X .. = my=20 RedHat box works great in passive, but my BSD will not?
 
first thing I have tried is copying = rulesets over=20 to different file, and using only
Pass in qucik all from any to = any
pass out quick all from any to = any
 
no go, I even rebooted, just to verify = to myself=20 that these rulsets were in fact loaded .. still same error
 
I did read somewhere that ipnat could = not read from=20 drive when kern security level was set to 2 ..
 
I also found information that IPFILTER = couldn't=20 handle the frag packets associated with FTP .. (this seemed to be a much = older=20 version)
 
I was hoping that someone may have = experienced this=20 problem or similar and could advise .. should I ditch IPFILTER and use = IPFW and=20 natd?  which worked great on prior setup with an older machine, but = never=20 familiarized myself with IPFW rulesets
 
Thanks
------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01C0C816.13971CC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 15: 8: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B19637B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:07:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave_smith4@hp.com) Received: from amrelay1.boi.hp.com (amrelay1.boi.hp.com [15.56.8.24]) by palrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B8C582 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xpabh3.corp.hp.com (xpabh3.corp.hp.com [15.58.136.223]) by amrelay1.boi.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id QAA22001 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:06:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by xpabh3.corp.hp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2M5NT9Z8>; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:06:20 -0700 Message-ID: <6BD67FFB937FD411A04F00D0B74FE8787EB5D1@xrose06.rose.hp.com> From: "SMITH,DAVE (HP-Roseville,ex1)" To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: WaveLAN IEEE driver over ISA to PCMCIA Adapter Card Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:06:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everyone, I am have a problem with 4.2 FreeBSD release installing a WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 Silver card (bought from Lucent) with a ISA to PCMCIA Adapter (bought from Lucent). I believe that the problem is related to the ISA to PCMCIA adapter card that I am using. Here is my configuration.... HP Netserver E-40 200MHZ Pentium Pro 64MB of RAM 2.0GB Hard Disk ISA to PCMCIA Adapter (bought from Lucent) WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 Silver card (bought from Lucent) PC-100 Extender card (for diagnostics) The system starts up fine and runs great, I just don't get the WaveLAN card to be identified. There are no system crashes or anything like that. I do get the following errors as a result of the pccard_enable="YES" which I added to enable Pccard services. pccardd: /dev/card0 Device not configured. pccardd: /dev/card1 Device not configured. I believe that I have got to solve this problem first before moving any further. As far as I can tell, using the PC-100 Extender Card, power is never applied to the WaveLAN card. So I don't see how it can be detected until I can get the power enabled. I am not sure what the following message means aside from the obvious. pccardd: /dev/card0 Device not configured. I believe that it means that the ISA to PCMCIA bridge has not been configured properly and therefore the /dev/card0 cannot be configured properly because the system cannot see the PCMCIA bridge setting on the ISA bus. Any ideas? Perhaps the ISA to PCMCIA bridge is not supported on FreeBSD! I have device isa in the GENERIC configuration file which I copied to my own file for editing purposes and rebuilt the kernel based on my copy. I also have device card, device pcic0, device pcic1 and device wi in the configuration file. All of those things were part of the 4.2 FreeBSD release GENERIC configuration. Only pccard was not enabled. in /etc/rc.conf (I think) The system that I am working with is not available to inspect to get the exact file name. Any ideas? Dave Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 15: 8: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sleipner.eiffel.dk (sub19-229.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.19.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7C737B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:08:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Torben@ArchimedeSoft.com) Received: from ArchimedeSoft.com (sub19-225.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.19.225]) by sleipner.eiffel.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3SKaaN85657 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:36:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Torben@ArchimedeSoft.com) Message-ID: <3ADE103E.B43EFAE2@ArchimedeSoft.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:07:58 -0700 From: "Torben K. Jensen" Organization: ArchimedeSoft Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Q&A List Subject: 4.2-STABLE (Feb 20): mkfifo function hangs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My question is simple: Could there be situations when the mkfifo function might hang? I am currently developing a daemon which uses a named pipe to communicate with any second instances of it the user might attempt to start. The behavior indicating a hangup occurs when the daemon is started, has created the fifo, opened the file for reading and then for some reason dies disgracefully. If I subsequently try to start up my daemon again, the very same mkfifo call apparently hangs (at least that's where DDD tells me it does). I would expect it to return an error code instead. If anyone is interested in looking at this, but would like to see some source code, please let me know. Thanks for you time, -- Torben K. Jensen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 15:14:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rm-rstar.sfu.ca (rm-rstar.sfu.ca [142.58.120.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684C837B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:14:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (tmchow@fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by rm-rstar.sfu.ca (8.10.1/8.10.1/SFU-5.0H) with ESMTP id f3IMEWl16214; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFU-5.0C) with ESMTP id PAA15087; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:14:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fraser.sfu.ca: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:14:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow To: Leif Neland Cc: Rasputin , Subject: Re: ARP message filling my logs In-Reply-To: <01ab01c0c84f$c0a22fc0$6405a8c0@neland.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Leif Neland wrote: > > > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.1 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > > > > on fxp0 > > > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > > > > on fxp0 > > > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 to 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe > > > > on fxp0 > > > It appears you have two nic's, 00:00.... and 40.00.... > Are they in the same machine or in two different machines? > If they are in the same machine, does one nic have adress 209.53.0.1 and the other 209.53.0.17? > I seem to remember sometimes some protocols or daemons answers on the wrong nic/ip. No, the 209.53.0.1 and 209.53.0.17 are the IPs of my ISP's 2 nameservers.. these are not my IPs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 15:24:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B243937B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:24:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmiller@mediaone.net) Received: from wmiller2K (host-157-39.macromedia.com [207.88.157.39]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3IMOQa02894 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:24:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000c01c0c856$3dd16690$1502290a@wmiller2K> From: "Walter Miller" To: Subject: Apache or AOLServer? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:23:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C81B.8DF32BD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C81B.8DF32BD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Any chance FreeBSD would use AOLServer for their website now that it's = open sourced? It seems like AOLServer would be a better fit for FreeBSD = than Apache based on the supposed performance and multi-threaded lead it = has (and has had for quite a while) over Apache. I'm actually trying to = decide for myself which one to go for although I'm leaning towards = AOLServer but maybe you guys have some good reasons why Apache is the = way to go. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C81B.8DF32BD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any chance FreeBSD would use AOLServer = for their=20 website now that it's open sourced?  It seems like AOLServer = would be=20 a better fit for FreeBSD than Apache based on the supposed performance = and=20 multi-threaded lead it has (and has had for quite a while) over = Apache. =20 I'm actually trying to decide for myself which one to go for although = I'm=20 leaning towards AOLServer but maybe you guys have some good reasons why = Apache=20 is the way to go.
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C81B.8DF32BD0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 15:25:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wiggum.isp.nwu.edu (wiggum.isp.nwu.edu [129.105.98.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AAD37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:25:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from laurence@isp.northwestern.edu) Received: from localhost (laurence@localhost) by wiggum.isp.nwu.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3IMPJp04469 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:25:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:25:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Laurence Berland X-Sender: To: Subject: OT:Use perl to substitute a string for another in many files Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If I've got a bunch of files, that I can list using find, what is the best way, using perl, to substitute every instance of a string with a different string in all these files. Basically I want to run s/a-string/b-string/g in place on each file. Any ideas? I have already hosed some files messing this up once, and don't want to risk doing it again. L: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 15:32:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B15E37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3IMW5703459 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:32:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3IMW3l03445; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:32:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.5.100] (may be forged)) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.3/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3IMVq603853; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:31:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <028001c0c857$8350e280$6405a8c0@neland.dk> From: "Leif Neland" To: "Trevin Chow" Cc: References: Subject: Re: ARP message filling my logs Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:32:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f3IMW3l03445 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Leif Neland wrote: > > > > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.1 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > > > > > on fxp0 > > > > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > > > > > on fxp0 > > > > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 to 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe > > > > > on fxp0 > > > > > It appears you have two nic's, 00:00.... and 40.00.... > > Are they in the same machine or in two different machines? > > If they are in the same machine, does one nic have adress 209.53.0.1 and the other 209.53.0.17? > > I seem to remember sometimes some protocols or daemons answers on the wrong nic/ip. > > No, the 209.53.0.1 and 209.53.0.17 are the IPs of my ISP's 2 nameservers.. > these are not my IPs. > How are you connected to your ISP? Some kind of bridging? You shouldn't know the macadress of machines outside your net. What is your ip? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 15:45:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netsys.hn (mail.netsys.hn [200.41.53.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2995B37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from quintana@netsys.hn) Received: from HPLAPTOP.netsys.hn (support.netsys.hn [200.41.53.58]) by mail.netsys.hn (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12770 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:45:31 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010418163936.0287e160@netsys.hn> X-Sender: quintana@netsys.hn X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:41:46 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Pablo Quintana Subject: A dot in the username Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_28892040==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=====================_28892040==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed How can I have my FreeBSD 4.2 to let me use dots in the username as pablo.quintana@netsys.hn? Thanks. Pablo Quintana Gerente de Servicios Dedicados The NetSys Company San Pedro Sula, Honduras, C. A. Tel. : +504 566-1055 Fax : +504 566-3183 Mobile: +504 991-1847 e-mail: quintana@netsys.hn --=====================_28892040==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" How can I have my FreeBSD 4.2 to let me use dots in the username as pablo.quintana@netsys.hn?

Thanks.

Pablo Quintana
Gerente de Servicios Dedicados
The NetSys Company
San Pedro Sula, Honduras, C. A.

Tel.  : +504 566-1055
Fax   : +504 566-3183
Mobile: +504 991-1847
e-mail: quintana@netsys.hn
 --=====================_28892040==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 15:53:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from suntana.fh-konstanz.de (suntana.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.9.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7E437B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) Received: from vvl10 (vvl10.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.112.110]) by suntana.fh-konstanz.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA05768; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:53:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <004d01c0c85b$654ce050$6e70258d@vvl10.fh-konstanz.de> From: "Vahe Khachikyan" To: , "Pablo Quintana" Subject: Re: A dot in the username Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:00:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you want to have an Email address like pablo.quintana@netsys.hn It's better to make an alias in sendmail :-)) Try 'man 5 aliases' -- Vahe --- -----Original Message----- From: Pablo Quintana To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:53 AM Subject: A dot in the username How can I have my FreeBSD 4.2 to let me use dots in the username as pablo.quintana@netsys.hn? Thanks. Pablo Quintana Gerente de Servicios Dedicados The NetSys Company San Pedro Sula, Honduras, C. A. Tel. : +504 566-1055 Fax : +504 566-3183 Mobile: +504 991-1847 e-mail: quintana@netsys.hn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 16: 0:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EABE37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 00D9EA91E; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:59:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:59:11 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Pablo Quintana Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A dot in the username Message-ID: <20010418175911.A69031@cec.wustl.edu> References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010418163936.0287e160@netsys.hn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010418163936.0287e160@netsys.hn>; from quintana@netsys.hn on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:41:46PM -0500 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:41:46PM -0500, Pablo Quintana wrote: > > How can I have my FreeBSD 4.2 to let me use dots in the username as > pablo.quintana@netsys.hn? > Thanks. > > Pablo Quintana > Gerente de Servicios Dedicados > The NetSys Company > San Pedro Sula, Honduras, C. A. > Tel. : +504 566-1055 > Fax : +504 566-3183 > Mobile: +504 991-1847 > e-mail: quintana@netsys.hn You want the actual username like that, or just the email address? I've never seen a username with a dot in it, although I don't see anything wrong with having it. Actually, out of curiosity, I just created a user with a dot in his name: ajh.3. Everything worked just fine. I don't know if adduser (or useradd; whatever it is) supports that, but then again, adduser puts strange limitations on the uid and gid fields. Using vipw had everything working just fine. If you just want to have the email address, you fool around with /etc/aliases or whatever your alias file is. You'll have to read up the docs for your mailserver on this one, things are different between different servers. For sendmail or postfix, you'd add a line like this: pablo.quintana: and rehash the database. This is where you need to check the docs. With postfix, I know it's "postalias"; sendmail is different. Some mail servers, for instance exim, don't even need a hashed database--they just parse /etc/aliases directly. Aliasing works like a dream, I've got a "chmod" alias for myself, and an alias for my brother which sends mail to another server. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 16: 3:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nameserver.austclear.com.au (nameserver.austclear.com.au [192.83.119.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1573437B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahl@austclear.com.au) Received: from tungsten.austclear.com.au (tungsten.austclear.com.au [192.168.70.1]) by nameserver.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA57518; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:03:12 +1000 (EST) Received: from tungsten (tungsten [192.168.70.1]) by tungsten.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12359; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:03:12 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200104182303.JAA12359@tungsten.austclear.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Pablo Quintana Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A dot in the username In-Reply-To: Message from Pablo Quintana of "Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:41:46 EST." <5.0.2.1.0.20010418163936.0287e160@netsys.hn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:03:12 +1000 From: Tony Landells Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you mean for email, then yes. In the remainder of this email I'm going to assume you're running sendmail (since you haven't indicated otherwise) with the standard FreeBSD 4.2 sendmail.cf. For incoming email, you only need an entry in the aliases file. This file is located in /etc/mail/aliases, and the entry you want is: pablo.quintana: quintana After you make changes to the file you need to rebuild the database. There is stuff in /etc/mail/Makefile to do this but it's commented out, so you can either uncomment it and run 'make' or you can do it by hand with '/usr/bin/newaliases'. Outgoing email is a bit trickier... If you're always going to use Eudora (as you did for the original message) then you should just be able to set it as your return address in Eudora and leave it at that. However if you intend to generate outgoing mail on the FreeBSD box you're going to need to make changes to your sendmail.cf to include support for a genericstable. There is information on that at the sendmail website (www.sendmail.org) as well as in the sendmail source tree (assuming you installed that) in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/README and possibly elsewhere. Have fun, Tony -- Tony Landells Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 Level 4, Rialto North Tower 525 Collins Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 16: 8: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tortugas.irbs.com (tortugas.irbs.com [216.86.160.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B38637B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jc@irbs.com) Received: by tortugas.irbs.com (Postfix, from userid 108) id 6D2F413627; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:07:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:07:51 -0400 From: John Capo To: Laurence Berland Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT:Use perl to substitute a string for another in many files Message-ID: <20010418190751.A25209@tortugas.irbs.com> Reply-To: jc@irbs.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from laurence@isp.northwestern.edu on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:25:19PM -0500 X-Organization: IRBS Engineering, inc. 954-463-3771 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I use something like this: find blah.... | xargs perl -pi -e 's/a-string/b-string/g' John Capo Quoting Laurence Berland (laurence@isp.northwestern.edu): > If I've got a bunch of files, that I can list using find, what is the best > way, using perl, to substitute every instance of a string with a different > string in all these files. > > Basically I want to run s/a-string/b-string/g in place on each file. > > Any ideas? I have already hosed some files messing this up once, and > don't want to risk doing it again. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 16:10:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D403F37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:10:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E1B1BA91F; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:08:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:08:59 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Walter Miller Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache or AOLServer? Message-ID: <20010418180859.B69031@cec.wustl.edu> References: <000c01c0c856$3dd16690$1502290a@wmiller2K> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000c01c0c856$3dd16690$1502290a@wmiller2K>; from wmiller@mediaone.net on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 03:23:43PM -0700 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 03:23:43PM -0700, Walter Miller wrote: > > Any chance FreeBSD would use AOLServer for their website now that it's > open sourced? It seems like AOLServer would be a better fit for > FreeBSD than Apache based on the supposed performance and > multi-threaded lead it has (and has had for quite a while) over > Apache. I'm actually trying to decide for myself which one to go for > although I'm leaning towards AOLServer but maybe you guys have some > good reasons why Apache is the way to go. Um... next time, buy the *expensive* acid, okay? There's a reason 60% of the World Wide Web is powered by Apache... not only is it open source, but it's stable, works well, supports a wide variety of modules, and is highly configurable. I've never seen AOLserver. It may be the greatest web server there ever was. But let me tell you what I know: 1) AOL's instant messenger clients and service are shitty on any platform. 2) AOL's internet service and its clients are shitty. 3) AOL owns Netscape, and Netscape is shitty. In all my experience with AOL and its products, I've never had a good experience. This leads me to be very cautious about anything they produce. It strikes me as odd that AOL would produce a web server; is this just the old-time Netscape server product renamed and repackaged? Until you can tell me who says that AOLserver outperforms Apache (AOL doesn't count), and who has had good experiences with it, I won't even begin to consider it as an Apache alternative. I fail to see multithreading as an immediate advantage. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 16:15: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from intratec.com.mx (intratec.com.mx [200.33.246.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9237237B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbiquez@icsmx.com) Received: from piii.intranet.com.mx (200.33.246.4) by intratec.com.mx with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0.2); Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:14:10 -0600 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010418171213.03538220@icsmx.com> X-Sender: jbiquez@icsmx.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:13:17 -0500 To: Andrew Hesford From: Jorge Biquez Subject: Re: Apache or AOLServer? Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010418180859.B69031@cec.wustl.edu> References: <000c01c0c856$3dd16690$1502290a@wmiller2K> <000c01c0c856$3dd16690$1502290a@wmiller2K> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a little sample of where Apache stands..... JB ----------------- The April 2001 Netcraft Web Server Survey is out: http://www.netcraft.com/survey/ Top Developers Developer March 2001 Percent April 2001 Percent Change Apache 17238004 60.25 17932251 62.55 2.30 Microsoft 5650634 19.75 5918319 20.64 0.89 iPlanet 1785337 6.24 1798490 6.27 0.03 Top Servers Server March 2001 Percent April 2001 Percent Change Apache 17238004 60.25 17932251 62.55 2.30 Microsoft-IIS 5648960 19.74 5916724 20.64 0.90 Netscape-Enterprise 1750429 6.12 1762872 6.15 0.03 Zeus 738068 2.58 779209 2.72 0.14 Rapidsite 395094 1.38 402829 1.41 0.03 thttpd 365445 1.28 369930 1.29 0.01 AOLserver 262650 0.92 272815 0.95 0.03 tigershark 182481 0.64 200620 0.70 0.06 WebSitePro 141737 0.50 119586 0.42 -0.08 Active Sites Developer March 2001 Percent April 2001 Percent Change Apache 6744817 61.13 7015250 61.67 0.54 Microsoft 2739893 24.83 2961984 26.04 1.21 iPlanet 251536 2.28 294594 2.59 0.31 At 18:08 18/04/01 -0500, you wrote: >On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 03:23:43PM -0700, Walter Miller wrote: > > > > Any chance FreeBSD would use AOLServer for their website now that it's > > open sourced? It seems like AOLServer would be a better fit for > > FreeBSD than Apache based on the supposed performance and > > multi-threaded lead it has (and has had for quite a while) over > > Apache. I'm actually trying to decide for myself which one to go for > > although I'm leaning towards AOLServer but maybe you guys have some > > good reasons why Apache is the way to go. > >Um... next time, buy the *expensive* acid, okay? > >There's a reason 60% of the World Wide Web is powered by Apache... not >only is it open source, but it's stable, works well, supports a wide >variety of modules, and is highly configurable. > >I've never seen AOLserver. It may be the greatest web server there ever >was. But let me tell you what I know: > >1) AOL's instant messenger clients and service are shitty on any >platform. > >2) AOL's internet service and its clients are shitty. > >3) AOL owns Netscape, and Netscape is shitty. > >In all my experience with AOL and its products, I've never had a good >experience. This leads me to be very cautious about anything they >produce. > >It strikes me as odd that AOL would produce a web server; is this just >the old-time Netscape server product renamed and repackaged? > >Until you can tell me who says that AOLserver outperforms Apache (AOL >doesn't count), and who has had good experiences with it, I won't even >begin to consider it as an Apache alternative. I fail to see >multithreading as an immediate advantage. > >-- >Andrew Hesford >ajh3@chmod.ath.cx > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 16:18:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D5A37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:18:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F1247A91E; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:16:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:16:58 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Jorge Biquez Cc: Andrew Hesford , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache or AOLServer? Message-ID: <20010418181658.A69213@cec.wustl.edu> References: <000c01c0c856$3dd16690$1502290a@wmiller2K> <000c01c0c856$3dd16690$1502290a@wmiller2K> <20010418180859.B69031@cec.wustl.edu> <5.0.2.1.2.20010418171213.03538220@icsmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010418171213.03538220@icsmx.com>; from jbiquez@icsmx.com on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:13:17PM -0500 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:13:17PM -0500, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Just a little sample of where Apache stands..... > > JB > > ----------------- > The April 2001 Netcraft Web Server Survey is out: > > http://www.netcraft.com/survey/ > > Top Developers > > Developer March 2001 Percent April 2001 Percent Change > Apache 17238004 60.25 17932251 62.55 2.30 > Microsoft 5650634 19.75 5918319 20.64 0.89 > iPlanet 1785337 6.24 1798490 6.27 0.03 > > Top Servers > > Server March 2001 Percent April 2001 Percent Change > Apache 17238004 60.25 17932251 62.55 2.30 > Microsoft-IIS 5648960 19.74 5916724 20.64 0.90 > Netscape-Enterprise 1750429 6.12 1762872 6.15 0.03 > Zeus 738068 2.58 779209 2.72 0.14 > Rapidsite 395094 1.38 402829 1.41 0.03 > thttpd 365445 1.28 369930 1.29 0.01 > AOLserver 262650 0.92 272815 0.95 0.03 > tigershark 182481 0.64 200620 0.70 0.06 > WebSitePro 141737 0.50 119586 0.42 -0.08 > > Active Sites > > Developer March 2001 Percent April 2001 Percent Change > Apache 6744817 61.13 7015250 61.67 0.54 > Microsoft 2739893 24.83 2961984 26.04 1.21 > iPlanet 251536 2.28 294594 2.59 0.31 Exactly... Doesn't it make you wonder when IIS is more popular than AOLserver? No FreeBSD user would *ever* think about using IIS if it were available for FreeBSD. Without using AOLserver, these numbers are all I have to go by, and these are very strong numbers. I'm sticking with Apache until AOLserver is more popular than IIS at least. After that, it may be worth considering. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 16:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from megapathdsl.net (snowbird.megapath.net [216.200.176.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBF937B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jasonc@concentric.net) Received: from [63.209.136.118] (HELO mgm) by megapathdsl.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.3) with SMTP id 19857051 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:29:30 -0700 Message-ID: <006b01c0c85f$d4ab0540$89941bd8@speakeasy.net> From: "jason" To: Subject: rc.conf missing termination quote Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:30:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I added a couple lines to my rc.conf file and seems I forgot to add a terminating quote which now causes the system to not boot properly. I now get a message stating: Enter Path name for SHELL or ENTER for /bin/sh I hit enter to use /bin/sh and am totally unable to use any editor or even as much as copy or rename a file anywhere. All attempts at editing generates a message of: #ed rc.conf /tmp/ed.xxxxx: Read-Only File System Any attempt to use cp or mv generates a message similar to cp: rc.conf: Read-Only File System Any idea how I amy recover my system? I hope a trival problem such as this wouldn't cause catastrophic failure of the system requiing reinstall. I am sure there a totally obvious and simple solution. A search of the handbook turns up a great number of references to the PPP Primer. A search of the mailing list came up completely empty which I found very odd. Thanks Jason Cribbins MGM Communications Echostar Sales and Service To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 16:32:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A040137B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from GeeGeegirl29@aol.com) Received: from GeeGeegirl29@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id n.25.140e6cad (25713) for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:32:48 -0400 (EDT) From: GeeGeegirl29@aol.com Message-ID: <25.140e6cad.280f7e1f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:32:47 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 16:33:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFA137B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:33:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([fec0::2e0:7dff:fe81:749d] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14q1S7-000Kon-00; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:33:39 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3INXdN04344; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:33:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:33:39 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: jason Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rc.conf missing termination quote Message-ID: <20010419003339.F22499@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <006b01c0c85f$d4ab0540$89941bd8@speakeasy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <006b01c0c85f$d4ab0540$89941bd8@speakeasy.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jason wrote: > I hit enter to use /bin/sh and am totally unable to use any editor or even > as much as copy or rename a file anywhere. All attempts at editing > generates a message of: > #ed rc.conf > /tmp/ed.xxxxx: Read-Only File System Do 'mount -u /' to re-mount the root filesystem read/write. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 17: 6:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c0039.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCA637B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA38422; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:06:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3ADE2BF7.9F0FD3DD@nisser.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:06:15 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: Nisser - Nr. 1 in Veiligheid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PoushkovaG Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: security & use References: <000501c0c81b$3eb81ee0$c118a8c0@INT.NIIAO.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG PoushkovaG wrote: > > I have Free BSD 3.4 release, is this release relable for use as post > server & internet gateway, > is 'sendmail' & 'named' from it, good choice, why 'named' have options for > change UID & GID, > is above problem only computer with multi user, so on computer is only I > most of problem security is unmeaning. Well, it's reliable enough allright. But there are some security leaks in it. You should really start patching it up in places, like, say, BIND and stuff. BIND or named has a nice option to have it run in a sandbox, i.e. run it chroot'ed as bind:bind. Works fine, just make sure you've put the PID file in a readable place. It helps frustrate crackers ;). Roelof To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 18:31:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (mailhost.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C83E37B43C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:31:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennisw@iprg.nokia.com) Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (darkstar.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.69]) by mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-GLGS) with ESMTP id SAA12998 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:31:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Delivered-For: Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id f3J1V8H16119 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:31:08 -0700 X-mProtect: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:31:08 -0700 Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection Received: from maxdialin32.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.20.226, claiming to be "iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com(WTS.12.69) smtpdyQO1GL; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:31:02 PDT Message-ID: <3ADE3FA5.9F96CA34@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:30:13 -0700 From: dennis williamson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD 2.2.6 problems w/getty reading ports on /dev/ttyv* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was getting console messages that indicated getty not seeing /dev/ttyv[45678]. Those devices didn't exist, so I created them on FreeBSD 2.2.6 with the following command: cd /dev mknod ttyv4 c 12 4 ... upto #8. Now I get the following messages: Apr 18 18:27:42 ntc2 getty[502]: tcsetattr /dev/ttyv4: Inappropriate ioctl for d evice Apr 18 18:27:43 ntc2 getty[506]: tcsetattr /dev/ttyv5: Inappropriate ioctl for d evice Apr 18 18:27:43 ntc2 getty[506]: tcsetattr /dev/ttyv5: Inappropriate ioctl for d evice Apr 18 18:27:43 ntc2 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv6, sleep ing 30 secs Apr 18 18:27:43 ntc2 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv6, sleep ing 30 secs Apr 18 18:27:43 ntc2 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv6, sleep ing 30 secs Apr 18 18:27:43 ntc2 getty[509]: tcsetattr /dev/ttyv4: Inappropriate ioctl for d evice Apr 18 18:27:43 ntc2 getty[509]: tcsetattr /dev/ttyv4: Inappropriate ioctl for d evice Apr 18 18:27:43 ntc2 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv5, sleep ing 30 secs Apr 18 18:27:43 ntc2 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv5, sleep ing 30 secs Apr 18 18:27:43 ntc2 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv5, sleep ing 30 secs Not sure what to do. Please advise. Thanks in advance. dennisw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 18:39:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C38F37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:39:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net) Received: from mark9 (hutch-792.hutchtel.net [206.10.71.92]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA31365; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:39:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000201c0c93a$de7a0a40$6100000a@vladsempire.net> From: "Josh Paetzel" To: "Kenneth Wayne Culver" , "Pim Bliek" Cc: References: Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:24:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Wayne Culver" To: "Pim Bliek" Cc: Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:27 AM Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx > You can use it on XFree86 4.0.2 or higher I believe... using the nv > driver. However, there is no overlay support or 3d support because nvidia > hasn't yet released the FreeBSD version of their linux drivers... > > Ken > > There IS 3d support for the Geforce cards built into the X server, though. OpenGL is accelerated to some degree at least when Module glx is loaded in X. Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 18:39:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A0837B509 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:39:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net) Received: from mark9 (hutch-792.hutchtel.net [206.10.71.92]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA12878 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:39:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000d01c0c93a$e2786100$6100000a@vladsempire.net> From: "Josh Paetzel" To: Subject: ATI Radeon VE and Xfree 4.0.3 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:38:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The XFree page says that the ATI Radeon VE is supported, but I have not been able to get it to work. Has anyone had any luck with this card? I've tried using the r128, ati, and radeon driver with no success. The X server and/or xf86cfg bomb with an error message that says something to the effect of "The details of your card have not been added to blahblahblah.h please contact the XFree porject for help." Sorry that the error message isn't available to me, and yes, I have sent a message to the XFree project. ;) Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 19:35:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF40137B43C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@earthlink.net) Received: from mutt (1Cust230.tnt1.starkville.ms.da.uu.net [63.30.107.230]) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24791; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000d01c0c879$af4979c0$e66b1e3f@home.net> Reply-To: "Dave Leimbach" From: "Dave Leimbach" To: "Josh Paetzel" Cc: References: <000201c0c93a$de7a0a40$6100000a@vladsempire.net> Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:37:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There are also accelerated replacements for glx and the nv driver that comes with XF864.0.2 that Nvidia distributes for linux. There is no BSD port of this yet. There is a petition to sign that someone set up for this but I forget the link. In linux I can get 90fps in Quake3 with these drivers. They are pretty fast but require a kernel module to be loaded for the XF86 nvidia module These would obviously be nice to have for FreeBSD and others but they may not be willing to port it. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Paetzel" To: "Kenneth Wayne Culver" ; "Pim Bliek" Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:24 PM Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth Wayne Culver" > To: "Pim Bliek" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:27 AM > Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx > > > > You can use it on XFree86 4.0.2 or higher I believe... using the nv > > driver. However, there is no overlay support or 3d support because > nvidia > > hasn't yet released the FreeBSD version of their linux drivers... > > > > Ken > > > > > > There IS 3d support for the Geforce cards built into the X server, > though. OpenGL is accelerated to some > degree at least when Module glx is loaded in X. > > > > Josh > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 19:51:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from demai05.mw.mediaone.net (demai05.mw.mediaone.net [24.131.1.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3911A37B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:51:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmiller@mediaone.net) Received: from eman.ynapmoc (adsl-64-163-207-218.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.207.218]) by demai05.mw.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3J2pZa21969; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Walter Miller To: Andrew Hesford Subject: Re: Apache or AOLServer? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:47:27 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000c01c0c856$3dd16690$1502290a@wmiller2K> <20010418180859.B69031@cec.wustl.edu> In-Reply-To: <20010418180859.B69031@cec.wustl.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041819472700.01696@eman.ynapmoc> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday 18 April 2001 04:08 pm, Andrew Hesford wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 03:23:43PM -0700, Walter Miller wrote: > > Any chance FreeBSD would use AOLServer for their website now that it's > > open sourced? It seems like AOLServer would be a better fit for > > FreeBSD than Apache based on the supposed performance and > > multi-threaded lead it has (and has had for quite a while) over > > Apache. I'm actually trying to decide for myself which one to go for > > although I'm leaning towards AOLServer but maybe you guys have some > > good reasons why Apache is the way to go. > > Um... next time, buy the *expensive* acid, okay? > > There's a reason 60% of the World Wide Web is powered by Apache... not > only is it open source, but it's stable, works well, supports a wide > variety of modules, and is highly configurable. > > I've never seen AOLserver. It may be the greatest web server there ever > was. But let me tell you what I know: > > 1) AOL's instant messenger clients and service are shitty on any > platform. > > 2) AOL's internet service and its clients are shitty. > > 3) AOL owns Netscape, and Netscape is shitty. > > In all my experience with AOL and its products, I've never had a good > experience. This leads me to be very cautious about anything they > produce. > > It strikes me as odd that AOL would produce a web server; is this just > the old-time Netscape server product renamed and repackaged? It's a product they got from taking over a company called Navisoft. > Until you can tell me who says that AOLserver outperforms Apache (AOL > doesn't count), and who has had good experiences with it, I won't even > begin to consider it as an Apache alternative. I fail to see > multithreading as an immediate advantage. I'm looking for some good examples/experiences myselft - the whole reason for this email. A little dated but probably still relevant: http://philip.greenspun.com/wtr/aolserver/introduction-1.html http://philip.greenspun.com/wtr/aolserver/introduction-2.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 20: 4:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0210237B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:04:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timcm@umich.edu) Received: from galaxian.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (smtp@galaxian.gpcc.itd.umich.edu [141.211.2.146]) by berzerk.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/4.3-mailhub) with ESMTP id XAA21759 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (timcm@localhost) by galaxian.gpcc.itd.umich.edu (8.8.8/5.1-client) with ESMTP id XAA10505 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:04:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim McMillen X-Sender: timcm@galaxian.gpcc.itd.umich.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Burncd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I always get good help here, so here's another one: I searched through the archives, but wasn't able to find this, and the man page doesn't say. I was wondering what the max speed that burncd could burn at was. I saw this http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=148144+150016+/usr/local/www/db/text/2001/freebsd-questions/20010211.freebsd-questions but didn't know what source Conrad got that from, or if that's up to date. I also took a gander through the code, but through my limited C coding experience, I could only understand the parameter checking for s < 0. Does anyone know if there are plans to have burncd burn at the higher speeds like 12x and 16x that are getting common now? I'm especially interested in if the Sony internal IDE 16X burner (model CRX168B/A1) will work well. If not, it's only worth buying a slower one. Thanks, Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 20: 5:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts13.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FFB37B43E for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:05:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu) Received: from scaryg.shacknet.nu ([64.231.103.101]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010419030508.FBFW6402.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@scaryg.shacknet.nu> for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:05:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (freymann@localhost) by scaryg.shacknet.nu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3J35Sq00553 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:05:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:05:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald T. Freymann" To: Subject: Sound in Xwindows/Gnome work for root but not others Message-ID: <20010418230226.E548-100000@scaryg.shacknet.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Been trying to get "sound" to work on my box. Finally gave up on an old full length, 16-bit SB card, and pulled out a 16-bit PnP SB that I had working in a previous box. Recompiled kernel. Log in under my username, go into Xwindows/Gnome/Starfish. No sound. Xmms won't play, no tinks/gongs/whistles. Nada. Go off to something else, come back, log in this time as root, go into Xwindows, and I got sound coming out the wazoo. I checked the preferences, and sound effects are ON for the 'normal' user. Any ideas? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Scary Gerry -- Senior Systems Manager freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu Now enjoying FreeBSD 4.3RC2 along with GNOME and starfish Windows manager -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 20: 8:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts13.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D46337B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:08:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu) Received: from scaryg.shacknet.nu ([64.231.103.101]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010419030834.FBYT6402.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@scaryg.shacknet.nu> for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:08:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (freymann@localhost) by scaryg.shacknet.nu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3J38tE00577 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:08:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:08:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald T. Freymann" To: Subject: StarOffice52 Message-ID: <20010418230545.E548-100000@scaryg.shacknet.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I let the computer download all the components for StarOffice52 in the ports last night... I ran the install, very micro$oft like looking. After the install, I ran the make install-user on my "normal" account and then tonight, decided I would see what it looks like, but only it won't run! I get: # make install-user ELF binary type "0" not known. Abort trap *** Error code 134 (ignored) I have added $HOME/office52 to my path... I guess it's something to do with the Linux compatibility? But why would the install and make instal-user work last night but not tonight? I've been messing around trying to get PPPoE working (gave up after 5 kernel compiles later) and went back to a known good kernel, but surely that shouldn't muck up StarOffice? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Scary Gerry -- Senior Systems Manager freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu Now enjoying FreeBSD 4.3RC2 along with GNOME and starfish Windows manager -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 20: 9:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D918137B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:09:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graywane@home.com) Received: from michael.example.net ([65.2.79.221]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010419030942.OKHS5385.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@michael.example.net>; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:09:42 -0700 Received: (from graywane@localhost) by michael.example.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3J39f815457; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:09:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from graywane) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:09:41 -0400 From: Graywane To: Tim McMillen Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Burncd Message-ID: <20010418230941.A15429@home.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from timcm@umich.edu on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:04:41PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:04:41PM -0400, Tim McMillen wrote: > Does anyone know if there are plans to have burncd burn at the > higher speeds like 12x and 16x that are getting common now? I'm > especially interested in if the Sony internal IDE 16X burner (model=20 > CRX168B/A1) will work well. If not, it's only worth buying a slower one. > Thanks, I use burncd at 12x speed all the time for data cds. --=20 Note: See http://www.members.home.net/graywane/ for PGP information. --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjreVvUACgkQeHdFaBWUGN3YrgCfc0Eefvta92AbyTkYjQqqLDSu 6DwAnjy4HsnYEuvWi2ZA2vak7GUMQjsV =i0ri -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 20:10:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from laxmls03.socal.rr.com (laxmls03.socal.rr.com [24.30.163.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C259237B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:10:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwalker@cwalk.org) Received: from cwalk.org (sc-24-24-206-138.socal.rr.com [24.24.206.138]) by laxmls03.socal.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3J3AHs28652; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ramon (oscar [192.168.1.39]) by cwalk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA01297; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwalker@cwalk.org) Message-ID: <00cb01c0c87d$dc04e770$2701a8c0@cwalk.org> From: "Caleb Walker" To: "Don Cates" Cc: References: Subject: Re: HELP Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:07:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C0C843.2F62C4E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C0C843.2F62C4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NO subject and no body except for the words unsubscribe = freebsd-questions sent to majordomo@freebsd.org If you need further = help I think you can merely type help in the body to = majordomo@freebsd.org ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Don Cates=20 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 8:51 AM Subject: HELP I have been trying to unsubscribe from your service for almost 6 = months now and all I get is a responce from the postmaster... 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------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C0C843.2F62C4E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 20:12:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from laxmls04.socal.rr.com (laxmls04.socal.rr.com [24.30.163.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AD537B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:12:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwalker@cwalk.org) Received: from cwalk.org (sc-24-24-206-138.socal.rr.com [24.24.206.138]) by laxmls04.socal.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3J3CE520821; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ramon (oscar [192.168.1.39]) by cwalk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA01307; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:12:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwalker@cwalk.org) Message-ID: <00e101c0c87e$218bf9f0$2701a8c0@cwalk.org> From: "Caleb Walker" To: , "Logu" References: <20010418143224.753C237B424@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: subscribe Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:09:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Look at the bottom of this message and follow instructions but take the "un" out of "unsubscribe" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Logu" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 7:46 AM Subject: subscribe > I interested in knowing more about freebsd, so please subscribe me. > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 20:37:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E015837B43C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grinner@gmx.at) Received: from el-pozo.gmx.at ([32.102.104.2]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010419033752.ZJNT4080.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@el-pozo.gmx.at> for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:37:52 +0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010418233525.00ae8808@pop.gmx.net> X-Sender: 1581895@pop.gmx.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:37:40 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Nicholas A. de Laczkovich-Siddiqi" Subject: excluding files from mget * Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I downloaded about 30% of the files from an ftp and want to restart the aborted download of the rest. But if i turn the prompt off and say mget *, it will overwrite the already downloaded files. Is there any way to exclude files from being downloaded with mget? Thanks. Nicholas --------------------------------- Stand your Ground Troops! This shall be our finest Hour!!! - Famous last words To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 20:38:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B19537B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:38:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac5.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:root@rac5.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.145]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08708; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac5.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac5.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA26969; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac5.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA26965; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:37:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac5.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:37:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Josh Paetzel Cc: Pim Bliek , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx In-Reply-To: <000201c0c93a$de7a0a40$6100000a@vladsempire.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That is NOT hardware acceleration... ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth Wayne Culver" > To: "Pim Bliek" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:27 AM > Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx > > > > You can use it on XFree86 4.0.2 or higher I believe... using the nv > > driver. However, there is no overlay support or 3d support because > nvidia > > hasn't yet released the FreeBSD version of their linux drivers... > > > > Ken > > > > > > There IS 3d support for the Geforce cards built into the X server, > though. OpenGL is accelerated to some > degree at least when Module glx is loaded in X. > > > > Josh > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 20:40: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508E137B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac5.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:root@rac5.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.145]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08837; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac5.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac5.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA27790; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac5.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27786; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:40:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac5.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:40:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Dave Leimbach Cc: Josh Paetzel , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx In-Reply-To: <000d01c0c879$af4979c0$e66b1e3f@home.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > There are also accelerated replacements for glx and the nv driver that > comes with XF864.0.2 that Nvidia distributes for linux. There is no > BSD port of this yet. There is a petition to sign that someone set up > for this but I forget the link. In linux I can get 90fps in Quake3 > with these drivers. They are pretty fast but require a kernel module > to be loaded for the XF86 nvidia module with XF86 4.0.2> These would obviously be nice to have for FreeBSD and > others but they may not be willing to port it. > > > > There IS 3d support for the Geforce cards built into the X server, > > though. OpenGL is accelerated to some > > degree at least when Module glx is loaded in X. > > As I said before, this 3d support is on EVERY card... it's called Software OpenGL, and it's dog slow. OpenGL is not accelerated at all in this mode. I was talking about getting HARDWARE 3d support for FreeBSD on the Geforce2 MX... this is NOT supported, although I heard a few places that support is in the works. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 20:40:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bcfw1d.bridge.com (bcfw1d.ext.bridge.com [167.76.159.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A8437B43F for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tayers@bridge.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bcfw1d.bridge.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f3J3fZE06820 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:41:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from (unknown [167.76.56.34]) by bcfw1d via smap (V2.1) id xma006763; Wed, 18 Apr 01 22:41:21 -0500 Received: from mnmailhost (mnmailhost.bridge.com [167.76.155.14]) by mail1srv.bridge.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA18811 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:40:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from TAYERS-PC by mnmailhost (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.1) id XAA16999; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:40:10 -0400 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OT:Use perl to substitute a string for another in many files References: <20010418190751.A25209@tortugas.irbs.com> From: Tim Ayers Date: 18 Apr 2001 22:40:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20010418190751.A25209@tortugas.irbs.com> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For an extra margin of safety you can give the -i option a parameter and then Perl will make backup copies of all the files. For example find blah.... | xargs perl -pi '.bak' -e 's/a-string/b-string/g' Hope you have a very nice day, :-) Tim Ayers (tayers@bridge.com) >>>>> "J" == John Capo writes: J> I use something like this: J> find blah.... | xargs perl -pi -e 's/a-string/b-string/g' J> John Capo J> Quoting Laurence Berland (laurence@isp.northwestern.edu): >> If I've got a bunch of files, that I can list using find, what is the best >> way, using perl, to substitute every instance of a string with a different >> string in all these files. >> >> Basically I want to run s/a-string/b-string/g in place on each file. >> >> Any ideas? I have already hosed some files messing this up once, and >> don't want to risk doing it again. >> J> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org J> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 20:49:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net [24.69.46.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB4537B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:49:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (localhost.gv.shawcable.net [127.0.0.1]) by h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3J3q0B42094 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:52:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Michael O'Henly" Reply-To: michael@tenzo.com Organization: TENZO Design To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Ports: making XEmacs the default flavour of emacs Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:52:00 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041820520000.42079@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Recently, someone asked about ports that depend on XFree86-3.3.6. They apparently were using XFree86-4 and did not want 3.3.6 installed whenever they built an X-based port. The answer was to add a line to /etc/make.conf saying XFREE86_VERSION=4. That's a nice solution. Is there something comparable for emacs? I use XEmacs and don't especially want to install emacs when I build an emacs-related port. For example, /usr/ports/print/auctex tries to install emacs even though XEmacs is already on the machine. I've since read that this particular package (auctex) is actually part of the XEmacs install, so perhaps it's a bad example. In general, though, can I defeat the install of emacs in some global way? Thanks. M. -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 20:50:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web4304.mail.yahoo.com (web4304.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B6D137B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:50:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djk121@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010419035052.603.qmail@web4304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.31.23.75] by web4304.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:50:52 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:50:52 -0700 (PDT) From: dan kelley Subject: can't email freebsd-questions from my primary account To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG this is pretty annoying: the freebsd.org mailserver rejects my attempts to send to the mailing list with the following message: : 216.136.204.18 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 554 : Client host rejected: Access denied Giving up on 216.136.204.18. this mailserver 209.3.117.5 doesn't appear in the RBL (or any of the other blackhole lists, to my knowledge), and does have valid dns: [dkelley@mx1]$ dig mx1.ny.otec.com ; <<>> DiG 8.1 <<>> mx1.ny.otec.com ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; mx1.ny.otec.com, type = A, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: mx1.ny.otec.com. 1H IN A 209.3.117.5 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: ny.otec.com. 1H IN NS ns3.otec.com. ny.otec.com. 1H IN NS ns4.otec.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns3.otec.com. 1H IN A 64.209.222.101 ns4.otec.com. 1H IN A 64.209.222.102 ;; Total query time: 16 msec ;; FROM: mx1.ny.otec.com to SERVER: default -- 64.209.222.102 ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 19 00:35:18 2001 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 33 rcvd: 117 [dkelley@mx1]$ nslookup 209.3.117.5 Server: dev1.gc.ny.otec.com Address: 64.209.222.102 Name: mx1.ny.otec.com Address: 209.3.117.5 so why would my messages to the list be rejected? thanks- dan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 21:30:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fbsd.bosa.ca (cr1003901-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.37.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA2E37B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kulraj@bosa.ca) Received: from ska1 (h207-230-227-196.dccnet.com [207.230.227.196]) by fbsd.bosa.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BF64158EB9; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001101c0c889$f566be80$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> From: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" To: "Don Cates" , References: Subject: Re: HELP Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:34:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This appears at the end of all messages : > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > the message there no human at the end of a mailing list its automated; follow the instruction to the letter and it will happen. 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Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 21:43: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web11604.mail.yahoo.com (web11604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A449E37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:43:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010419044300.88797.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.65.99.194] by web11604.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:43:00 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Holtor Subject: Libraries and things a file is linked to? To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I remember seeing a command that would show what files or libraries a certain binary is linked to. I cant recall what that command is now, if anyone knows what i'm talking about would they please reply. Greatly appreciated. Holt PS. Please CC me on any replies since im not subscribed to this list. thnx. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 22: 9:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f202.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8547937B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:09:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:09:43 -0700 Received: from 64.20.254.204 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:09:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.254.204] From: "Charles Burns" To: vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET, lplist@closedsrc.org Cc: kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:09:43 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 05:09:43.0460 (UTC) FILETIME=[F1D5B640:01C0C88E] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > # The other question is, will the AMD Athlon be a whole lot faster > > # than a equivelent Intel PIII? and what about P4 support? or is that > > # really worst than a PIII and AMD in terms of performance? > > > > Theoretically, a dual Athlon system would beat a dual Pentium III setup > > not only because it has a better FPU, more L1 cache, but also because it > > uses a 100/200Mhz or a 133/266Mhz DDR FSB. Also, a dual Pentium III uses > > a shared bus to connect to the northbridge whereas a dual Athlon would > > have two dedicated connections to the northbridge. This is where DDR > > memory would have more of an impact on performance than SDRAM->DDR on a > > single Athlon system. > > > > -- > > Linh Pham > > [lplist@closedsrc.org] > > > > // 404b - Brain not found > > Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? This depends on what you plan to do. The general consensus among the hardware reviewers is that the Athlon is overall faster than any other x86 compatible CPU. The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over the Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the Athlon. If you are going to be running applications that for some reason depend almost exclusively on the bandwidth of the L2 cache (software with lots of loops that are under 192K may be an example of this) than in some situations a P3 at 1GHz will likely be faster than an Athlon at 1GHz. This small detail is overshadowed buy some advantages that the Athlon has: The P3 has a bug that reduces its efficiency when using segmented registers. This isn't the same as the PPro's slowness at 16-bit code. From what I gather, the P3 uses a full register when a request for a partial register (such as AX) is made, resulting in a terrible waste of valuable register bytes. I can find more specific info on this if anyone is interested. The Athlon has a superior floating point unit that is, in addition, more deeply pipelined. When using software that isn't optimized for any particular FPU, the Athlon is typically just under 30% faster. (Some examples of this can be seen on comparisons between the two at Anandtech) The Athlon is available in higher clock speeds. While clockspeed isn't everything, it is something. The Athlon can take more advantage of higher memory bandwidth than the P3 (but probably not the P4), thus you can get a greater performance benefit in some cases using DDR RAM. The Athlon is much, much cheaper. Motherboards, however, are more expensive. The overall cost ends up lower with the Athlon, especially if you are considering the price/perormance ratio. There are a few other advantages that the Athlon has as well. This is not to say that Intel made a crummy CPU core, of course. You have to consider that the PPro core was released in 1996 whereas the Athlon core was released a full three years later--an eternity in computer hardware time. This doesn't really matter though. The Athlon is, at the moment, usually a better choice. The P4 is a different story entirely... I would avoid it like an old Cyrix CPU if I were you. Even if it weren't slower than the P3 or Athlon in most software, the socket is soon to be changed so you will be left without the ability to upgrade much in the future. The chip is terribly expensive (as is the rest of the platform), has a short life, is amazingly inefficient with its transistors and memory bandwidth, and is overall certainly something to steer clear from until Intel fixes some of its unacceptable weaknesses. Good sites for hardware info: www.tomshardware.com www.anandtech.com www.aceshardware.com www.ars-technica.com Hope this helps _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 22:25:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f28.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41AB737B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:25:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:25:35 -0700 Received: from 64.20.254.204 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:25:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.254.204] From: "Charles Burns" To: vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET, lplist@closedsrc.org Cc: jgowdy@home.com, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:25:35 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 05:25:35.0469 (UTC) FILETIME=[2946C1D0:01C0C891] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Jeremiah has a very good point on the price/performance ratio >since the AMD wins a few times over the Intel's in terms of performance. >I know this might be offtopic but I was looking at the distributed.net rc5 >and the AMD does 3.5 keys/sec per Mhz on the Athlon while the Intel >PII/PIII/Celeron's all do 3.3 keys/sec per Mhz but the PowerPC G4 does >like 8.1 keys/sec per Mhz which seems to smoke the Intel/AMD platforms. >Now, since Mac OSX is out which is based on FreeBSD even though their >kernel is Mach based, would a G4 400 like the Cube be more powerful than a >1Ghz AMD or Intel? The G4 is overall a superior processor to the Athlon, P3 and especially the P4, but there are more factors than that to consider. *If you will be using FreeBSD, you will probably be using GCC. GCC is much more optimized for x86 processors than G4 processors. *Many of the G4's PUs are optimized for efficiency rather than clockspeed. This does make them faster at the same clockspeed, but many times clockspeed ends up being more important. Quick example: The K6 processors have a VERY good branch prediction unit--much better than even the Athlon's--BUT--they were not designed with high clockspeeds in mind and were flaky at above around 600MHz. The G4 also has a much shorter pipeline--same story. *FreeBSD is more mature on the x86 platform. I wasn't even aware of a port to Mac. (If there is one--I am unsure) *Distributed.net uses the FPU much more than the integer units. The G4's advantages in its FPU performance are greater than its advantages in integer performance. You won't get the same amazing results on most applications. If you want to go with a more exotic architecture, go with an Alpha or something. They are vastly superior in almost every way to the above mentioned processors. They are a bit pricey though. Note that the AMD and Intel chips aren't slower because of incompetence. They need to remain backwards-compatible with the 8086 instruction set and some of its methods of doing things. The 8086 processor sucks. It's architecture and design suck. They were never meant for general purpose computing--more for operating dishwashers and the like. The fact that they have advanced so far is a testament to the ingenuity of humanity--and to the stubbornness. Blame IBM. ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 22:31:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4E6F37B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:31:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 31232 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 05:31:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpu563) (195.229.53.62) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 05:31:22 -0000 Message-ID: <00dc01c0c891$d08df030$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> From: "dotslash" To: "fq" References: Subject: Re: make buildworld fails Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:28:26 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 1. have u got the sources installed? 2. did you do a complete (no errors) cvsup of your sources? 3. checkout the makefile in www.freebsddiary.org . it's quite neat. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan" To: "FreeBSD mailing list" Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:19 PM Subject: make buildworld fails > I suppose I should preface this by saying this is my first kernel upgrage > (going from 4.1-RELEASE to 4.3). > > When I tried to make buildworld it bottomed out on me. It looked like > it was tailing off at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus > > I went to said directory and tried a sudo make. it dumped with the error > cc: /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_int/libcc_int.a: No such > file or directory > *** Error code 1. > > I could sure use a hand...searching the mailing list on freebsd.org hasn't > really turned up much useful, and unfortunately, I've exhausted the > knowledge/patience of my collegues :) > > If I've not provided enough information, please let me know what else I > should include. > > TIA, > > Ryan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 22:32:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www3.pacific-pages.com (www3.pacific-pages.com [192.41.48.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D259D37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:32:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@www3.pacific-pages.com) Received: from d.tracker ([216.191.74.194]) by www3.pacific-pages.com (8.8.5) id XAA16457; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:32:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3J5SGm03110; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:28:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:27:04 -0400 From: David Banning To: duane jones Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: None Message-ID: <20010419012704.A3065@www3.pacific-pages.com> Reply-To: David Banning References: <3.0.5.32.20010418133458.00797e90@sccoast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010418133458.00797e90@sccoast.net>; from dljones@sccoast.net on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:34:58PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:34:58PM -0400, duane jones wrote: > What i am looking for is,a program that will allow me to provide my own > internet service from my home, without having to pay an ISP! can i do this > with FreeBSD > Check out our home page at > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message I have a dialup line into my home. I have it go to my web page and update a link with my current IP address every 10 minutes. By people going to my web page and clicking the link they can obtain access to the FreeBSD server in my home, which I use to enter my orders, and then, in turn have FreeBSD fax out the order to my customers. It's a great little setup for someone learning, or a small business (like me) If that's something you are looking for I could give you some direction. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 22:50:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f121.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1436537B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:50:19 -0700 Received: from 64.20.254.204 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:50:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.254.204] From: "Charles Burns" To: mwm@mired.org, jgowdy@home.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:50:19 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 05:50:19.0930 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E1587A0:01C0C894] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Jeremiah Gowdy types: > > As for the AMD+SMP vs Intel+SMP, I can't say regarding the FreeBSD >support, > > however, AMD's SMP is supposed to be far faster than Intel's because it >has > > a Point-to-Point bus for the SMP connection, meaning _each_ CPU has a > > dedicated 200mhz (100mhz DDR) connection to the bus, when on an Intel >SMP > > motherboard the two or more cpus will share the same 100mhz bus. That >means > > on a 4 way SMP Intel system, each cpu will get an effective 25mhz access >to > > the bus under full load in theory. By the same theory, AMD cpus would >each > > have their own 200mhz dedicated connection to the bus, even in an 8 cpu > > setup. > >You're talking about the speed of the connection to the bus, without >talking about the speed of the bus. If the bus in question is 100MHz, >then in any 4-cpu system at full load, each cpu will have at most >25MHz on the bus, never mind that their connection to the bus is >200MHz. So you've just spent 4 times the amount on cpu bus hardware >for no gain in performance. > >If the bus is 133MHz, then each cpu can get 33MHz on the bus on a >loaded system, and the shared connection to the bus causes a problem. > >There may be something obvious I've overlooked - in which case, I'm >sure I'll be told about it. Nobody else seemed to take this one, so... P3/P4 systems use the GTL+ bus. Athlon systems use the Alpha EV6 bus. GTL+ systems share the connection to the southbridge among all CPUs, so the bandwidth is divided amongst them. This doesn't neccesarily eliminate the performance gains of using multiple CPUs, because rarely does a single CPU utilize all available bandwidth. It just seriously hampers it. There seems to be a misconception that ALL SMP Intel systems have this problem. While all Intel systems use the GTL+ bus, some of the higher end ones have several complete busses on the same motherboard. There are essentially multiple near-complete motherboards on the same PCB, but they share data and often split up memory bandwidth as well. Some of these also have multiple separate memory banks in which each CPU or set of 2 or 4 CPUs gets a full 64-bit pathway to 100MHz RAM (or a 16-bit pathway to 200MHz QDR RAM in the case of Rambus) This has some huge disadvantages, of course--mainly cost. Obviously the complexity of the electronics makes the board far more expensive to manufacture, but also the added testing involved is several orders of magnitude higher, especially considering that these boards have to have server-class reliability. The EV6 bus, which is (or at least was) used by Compaq/DEC Alphas, cheats by having a dedicated southbridge chip for each CPU. The only thing shared is the memory bandwidth (though you can again have multiple separate banks) and a few other things like video and stuff. While having multiple southbridges clearly makes the PCB more complex, the added complexity is FAR less than the GTL+ method. This method also makes Athlons more scalable. Someone mentioned that they are limited to 14 CPUs. Actually, neither the P3 or Athlon are limited by anything but the motherboard (other than artificial limitations that Intel might have engineered). You can theoretically have hundreds of Athlons on the same PCB. This would, of course, be impractical compared to just using lots of servers, but it is much more feasible than doing so with GTL+. A 100 MPU GTL+ motherboard would be the eighth wonder of the world. While EV6 may be better than GTL+, we have yet to see it work on real-world Athlon systems other than the 2CPU Tyan mobo. It's real advantages will show up with 8 and 16-way systems that may or may not ever be released. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 23: 3: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bigline.kharkov.ua (ns.bigline.kharkov.ua [212.35.170.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7537537B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:02:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from assa@bigline.kharkov.ua) Received: (qmail 35583 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 2001 08:39:14 -0000 Received: from assa.bigline.kharkov.ua (HELO assa) (192.168.0.72) by tom.bigline.kharkov.ua with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 08:39:14 -0000 Message-ID: <021201c0c893$161b27c0$4800a8c0@assa> From: "Artyom Taryanik" To: "SMITH,DAVE (HP-Roseville,ex1)" , References: <6BD67FFB937FD411A04F00D0B74FE8787EB5D1@xrose06.rose.hp.com> Subject: Re: WaveLAN IEEE driver over ISA to PCMCIA Adapter Card Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:39:22 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG see www.freebsd.org/~wpaul ----- Original Message ----- From: SMITH,DAVE (HP-Roseville,ex1) To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:06 AM Subject: WaveLAN IEEE driver over ISA to PCMCIA Adapter Card > Hello everyone, > > I am have a problem with 4.2 FreeBSD release installing a > WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 Silver card (bought from Lucent) with a > ISA to PCMCIA Adapter (bought from Lucent). > > I believe that the problem is related to the ISA to PCMCIA > adapter card that I am using. > Here is my configuration.... > > HP Netserver E-40 > 200MHZ Pentium Pro > 64MB of RAM > 2.0GB Hard Disk > ISA to PCMCIA Adapter (bought from Lucent) > WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 Silver card (bought from Lucent) > PC-100 Extender card (for diagnostics) > > The system starts up fine and runs great, I just don't get the > WaveLAN card to be identified. There are no system crashes or > anything like that. I do get the following errors as a result > of the pccard_enable="YES" which I added to enable Pccard services. > > pccardd: /dev/card0 Device not configured. > pccardd: /dev/card1 Device not configured. > > I believe that I have got to solve this problem first before moving > any further. As far as I can tell, using the PC-100 Extender Card, > power is never applied to the WaveLAN card. So I don't see how it > can be detected until I can get the power enabled. > > I am not sure what the following message means aside from the obvious. > > pccardd: /dev/card0 Device not configured. > > I believe that it means that the ISA to PCMCIA bridge has not been > configured properly and therefore the /dev/card0 cannot be configured > properly because the system cannot see the PCMCIA bridge setting on > the ISA bus. Any ideas? Perhaps the ISA to PCMCIA bridge is not > supported on FreeBSD! > > I have device isa in the GENERIC configuration file which I copied to > my own file for editing purposes and rebuilt the kernel based on my > copy. I also have device card, device pcic0, device pcic1 and device wi > in the configuration file. All of those things were part of the 4.2 > FreeBSD release GENERIC configuration. Only pccard was not enabled. > in /etc/rc.conf (I think) The system that I am working with is not > available to inspect to get the exact file name. > > Any ideas? > > Dave Smith > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 23: 7:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sh.stonehenge-net.com (dsl081-053-198.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.53.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1EC37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:07:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@stonehenge-net.com) Received: from stonehenge-net.com (blue.stonehenge-net.com [192.168.0.2]) by sh.stonehenge-net.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA10650; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:06:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3ADE8085.870C68DB@stonehenge-net.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:07:02 -0700 From: Ben X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim McMillen Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Burncd References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tim - the -s switch allows you to control the speed. I think it's safe to conclude that the speed is hardware limited, not software, since this value is passed straight to the drive. Tim McMillen wrote: > Hello all, I always get good help here, so here's another one: > I searched through the archives, but wasn't able to find this, and > the man page doesn't say. I was wondering what the max speed that burncd > could burn at was. I saw this > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=148144+150016+/usr/local/www/db/text/2001/freebsd-questions/20010211.freebsd-questions > but didn't know what source Conrad got that from, or if that's up to date. > I also took a gander through the code, but through my limited C coding > experience, I could only understand the parameter checking for s < 0. > Does anyone know if there are plans to have burncd burn at the > higher speeds like 12x and 16x that are getting common now? I'm > especially interested in if the Sony internal IDE 16X burner (model > CRX168B/A1) will work well. If not, it's only worth buying a slower one. > Thanks, > > Tim > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 23: 8:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4057137B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28475; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:07:44 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:07:44 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > > > # The other question is, will the AMD Athlon be a whole lot faster > > > # than a equivelent Intel PIII? and what about P4 support? or is that > > > # really worst than a PIII and AMD in terms of performance? > > > > > > Theoretically, a dual Athlon system would beat a dual Pentium III setup > > > not only because it has a better FPU, more L1 cache, but also because it > > > uses a 100/200Mhz or a 133/266Mhz DDR FSB. Also, a dual Pentium III uses > > > a shared bus to connect to the northbridge whereas a dual Athlon would > > > have two dedicated connections to the northbridge. This is where DDR > > > memory would have more of an impact on performance than SDRAM->DDR on a > > > single Athlon system. > > > > > > -- > > > Linh Pham > > > [lplist@closedsrc.org] > > > > > > // 404b - Brain not found > > > > Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? > > This depends on what you plan to do. The general consensus among the > hardware reviewers is that the Athlon is overall faster than any other x86 > compatible CPU. Yep, that's what I read as well but are there any drawbacks to being faster such as compatibilty and all that stuff? > The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over the > Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the Athlon. > If you are going to be running applications that for some reason depend > almost exclusively on the bandwidth of the L2 cache (software with lots of > loops that are under 192K may be an example of this) than in some situations > a P3 at 1GHz will likely be faster than an Athlon at 1GHz. Hmmm, I guess that part is one I can't figure out since for FreeBSD, would this really count as a typical server? > This small detail is overshadowed buy some advantages that the Athlon has: > > The P3 has a bug that reduces its efficiency when using segmented registers. > This isn't the same as the PPro's slowness at 16-bit code. From what I > gather, the P3 uses a full register when a request for a partial register > (such as AX) is made, resulting in a terrible waste of valuable register > bytes. I can find more specific info on this if anyone is interested. Hmmm, that was probably the reason why a PentiumPro 166 under FreeBSD seems slower than a Pentium 166. > The Athlon has a superior floating point unit that is, in addition, more > deeply pipelined. When using software that isn't optimized for any > particular FPU, the Athlon is typically just under 30% faster. (Some > examples of this can be seen on comparisons between the two at Anandtech) Yeah, that's what I am concerned about. It seems that most things are optimized for the Intel CPU's. While the FPU is faster on the Athlon than the Intel, what about the non-FPU area? > The Athlon is available in higher clock speeds. While clockspeed isn't > everything, it is something. True since you get more clockspeed for less money. > The Athlon can take more advantage of higher memory bandwidth than the P3 > (but probably not the P4), thus you can get a greater performance benefit in > some cases using DDR RAM. Speaking about DDR RAM, what kind of performance hits would there be using DDR versus non-DDR RAM? > The Athlon is much, much cheaper. Motherboards, however, are more expensive. > The overall cost ends up lower with the Athlon, especially if you are > considering the price/perormance ratio. Yeah, that's what I realized as well. It seems like the VIA and AMD chipset based motherboards costs a lot more than the Intel variants. > There are a few other advantages that the Athlon has as well. This is not to > say that Intel made a crummy CPU core, of course. You have to consider that > the PPro core was released in 1996 whereas the Athlon core was released a > full three years later--an eternity in computer hardware time. This doesn't > really matter though. The Athlon is, at the moment, usually a better choice. That's good to hear. > The P4 is a different story entirely... I would avoid it like an old Cyrix > CPU if I were you. > Even if it weren't slower than the P3 or Athlon in most software, the socket > is soon to be changed so you will be left without the ability to upgrade > much in the future. The chip is terribly expensive (as is the rest of the > platform), has a short life, is amazingly inefficient with its transistors > and memory bandwidth, and is overall certainly something to steer clear from > until Intel fixes some of its unacceptable weaknesses. Atleast from the guys at Anantech, they are all anti-Intel and one of the reasons is as you stated about the P4's socket. I guess the choices were easier during the Pentium days since you can just pop in a AMD K6 in place of a Pentium without a total reinvestment. > Good sites for hardware info: > www.tomshardware.com > www.anandtech.com > www.aceshardware.com > www.ars-technica.com > > Hope this helps Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those. I guess I just wanted to know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it under Windows. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 23:10: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sh.stonehenge-net.com (dsl081-053-198.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.53.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CE737B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@stonehenge-net.com) Received: from stonehenge-net.com (blue.stonehenge-net.com [192.168.0.2]) by sh.stonehenge-net.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA10664 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:09:31 -0400 Message-ID: <3ADE811E.96B9AC8F@stonehenge-net.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:09:35 -0700 From: Ben X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: my stupid queston for the day Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG am trying to duplicate already existing cds, and i cant figure out how to create an image from the disk. i'd thought that something like dd if=/dev/acd0c of=image.iso would work, but i keep erroring out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 23:16:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B9237B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:16:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28583; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:15:45 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:15:44 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > > Jeremiah has a very good point on the price/performance ratio > >since the AMD wins a few times over the Intel's in terms of performance. > >I know this might be offtopic but I was looking at the distributed.net rc5 > >and the AMD does 3.5 keys/sec per Mhz on the Athlon while the Intel > >PII/PIII/Celeron's all do 3.3 keys/sec per Mhz but the PowerPC G4 does > >like 8.1 keys/sec per Mhz which seems to smoke the Intel/AMD platforms. > >Now, since Mac OSX is out which is based on FreeBSD even though their > >kernel is Mach based, would a G4 400 like the Cube be more powerful than a > >1Ghz AMD or Intel? > > The G4 is overall a superior processor to the Athlon, P3 and especially the > P4, but there are more factors than that to consider. Hmmm, what makes the G4 actually more superior? I know Apple always raves about the G4 as a supercomputer and that the G4-450 can do over 3 billion instructions per second, is there some kind of reference that shows what the equivelent is for the Intel/AMD side? > *If you will be using FreeBSD, you will probably be using GCC. GCC is much > more optimized for x86 processors than G4 processors. True since gcc atleast is what is used for the world builds. > *Many of the G4's PUs are optimized for efficiency rather than clockspeed. > This does make them faster at the same clockspeed, but many times clockspeed > ends up being more important. Quick example: The K6 processors have a VERY > good branch prediction unit--much better than even the Athlon's--BUT--they > were not designed with high clockspeeds in mind and were flaky at above > around 600MHz. The G4 also has a much shorter pipeline--same story. You're right about the K6 since the K6 I think has a faster core but it can't go above a certain clockspeed. I thought the only reason the G4 is faster tan the Athlon is because the Athlon doesn't have the 1 Meg L2 cache that's on the G4. > *FreeBSD is more mature on the x86 platform. I wasn't even aware of a port > to Mac. (If there is one--I am unsure) FreeBSD is only available on the x86 and Alpha platforms I think. I think Apple basically took the FreeBSD source tree and put it under Darwin which is Mach based. > *Distributed.net uses the FPU much more than the integer units. The G4's > advantages in its FPU performance are greater than its advantages in integer > performance. You won't get the same amazing results on most applications. Hmmm, so I guess even applications like Adobe PhotoShop uses the FPU more than the integer units as well since that's what Apple always uses to compare to the Intel/AMD platform. > If you want to go with a more exotic architecture, go with an Alpha or > something. They are vastly superior in almost every way to the above > mentioned processors. They are a bit pricey though. That's true but where can you even find a Alpha machine these days and do they have any machines that are like compact in size? > Note that the AMD and Intel chips aren't slower because of incompetence. > They need to remain backwards-compatible with the 8086 instruction set and > some of its methods of doing things. The 8086 processor sucks. It's > architecture and design suck. They were never meant for general purpose > computing--more for operating dishwashers and the like. The fact that they > have advanced so far is a testament to the ingenuity of humanity--and to the > stubbornness. > Blame IBM. ;-) Hehe... I thought the AMD/Intel were both CISC while the PowerPC is RISC created by IBM/Motorola/Apple. I guess until the 486, the x86 architecture was no match for workstations. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 23:34:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe4.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160C437B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benjaminhyatt@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:34:55 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [139.87.11.172] From: "Benjamin Hyatt" To: References: Subject: bea weblogic + apache + linux library Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:34:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 06:34:55.0924 (UTC) FILETIME=[D919CF40:01C0C89A] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm trying to configure bea's weblogic apache server plugin to work with apache 1.3.14 on FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386. I've rebuilt the kernel (smp support) and have enabled linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf //output from kldstat bhyatt@benh-freebsd:/export/home/bhyatt [176] $kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 2 0xc0100000 343d0c kernel 2 1 0xc18f0000 11000 linux.ko I've added the linux.so module to apache via apxs, which loads the module successfully. Apache refuses to start after this... Unfortunately Bea only provides a apache plugin for solaris, hp-ux and linux. I'd like to be able to get this to work on FreeBSD - gives me a good excuse to use FreeBSD over our current implementation... Solaris. Any ideas/comments are appreciated. Thanks, -Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 18 23:35: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web1206.mail.yahoo.com (web1206.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2937837B43E for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alantrulock@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 591 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Apr 2001 06:35:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20010419063500.590.qmail@web1206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.23.194.19] by web1206.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:34:59 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:34:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Trulock Reply-To: alan@trulock.org Subject: Re: my stupid queston for the day To: Ben , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3ADE811E.96B9AC8F@stonehenge-net.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How about dd if=/dev/acd0c of=image.iso bs=2048 --Al --- Ben wrote: > am trying to duplicate already existing cds, and i > cant figure out how > to create an image from the disk. > > i'd thought that something like > > dd if=/dev/acd0c of=image.iso > > would work, but i keep erroring out. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 0: 9: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13608.mail.yahoo.com (web13608.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B7F537B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:09:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bzdik@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010419070901.3608.qmail@web13608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.122.12.184] by web13608.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:09:01 PDT Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:09:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD To: Charles Burns , vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET, lplist@closedsrc.org Cc: jgowdy@home.com, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG G4 stil runs without heatsink - doesn't qualify as a real CPU to me. end :)) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 0:15:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13605.mail.yahoo.com (web13605.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6261637B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:15:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bzdik@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010419071538.38084.qmail@web13605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.122.12.184] by web13605.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:15:38 PDT Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:15:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD To: Ted Mittelstaedt , Charles Burns , vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET, lplist@closedsrc.org Cc: jgowdy@home.com, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <008a01c0c89f$ecf665a0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG on top of that it has 1/4 of transistors P4 has. Prolly sold the rest on the black market. I love this line "writers" massage all the time: Moore's Law: The computing power doubles every ....blah blah... it's number of elements the engineers are able to fit, but for them it's the same as computing power. --- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > It's not a real CPU unless it has fittings for the ethelyne > glycol coolant tubes. :-) > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bzdik BSD > > > > > >G4 stil runs without heatsink - doesn't qualify as a real CPU to me. > >end :)) > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 0:17: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C9737B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3J7BGk41248; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Bzdik BSD" , "Charles Burns" , , Cc: , , , , Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:11:16 -0700 Message-ID: <008a01c0c89f$ecf665a0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20010419070901.3608.qmail@web13608.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It's not a real CPU unless it has fittings for the ethelyne glycol coolant tubes. :-) Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bzdik BSD > > >G4 stil runs without heatsink - doesn't qualify as a real CPU to me. >end :)) > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 0:24:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f99.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B317937B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:24:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:24:35 -0700 Received: from 208.7.67.84 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:24:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.7.67.84] Reply-To: marwan@q8internet.net From: "Dead Line" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: _secure_path: cannot stat Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:24:35 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 07:24:35.0660 (UTC) FILETIME=[C92970C0:01C0C8A1] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peace, Hello everbody, Not all the times, but sometimes when i add users this error will keep coming on, login: _secure_path: cannot stat /home/group/user/.login_conf: Permission denied. Ofcourse group is the group name and the user is the user name. any idea please, why this error coming up? and how i can solve it. Thank you Marwan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 0:27:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078BE37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:27:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14q8pa-000AtH-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:26:22 +0300 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:26:22 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-Q Subject: sysinstall inside JAIL Message-ID: <20010419102622.A41029@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ibTvN161/egqYuK8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 10:23AM up 2 days, 16:46, 2 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.05, 0.05 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable here is a not-so-stupid one ;-) I've setup jail according to the letter but when I try to run sysinstall withing jail it tells me that 'no network devices available' when I choose to install from an FTP site.=20 What could I have missed with these 2 big eyes?? The IP jail is using is an alias IP on the host environment. -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. My theology, briefly, is that the universe was dictated but not signed. -- Christopher Morley --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63pMen7LIsuxjem8RAmPfAJ4lH0aMJiJW8KM82fAQNOGMo/A16wCgiYH1 terCIslBI8JtFzzazeZgFFs= =J+Mi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ibTvN161/egqYuK8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 0:35:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-01.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E65E837B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:35:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from katinka@magestower.com) Received: (qmail 16208 invoked by uid 666); 19 Apr 2001 07:35:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO WSKATINKA) (203.59.109.151) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 07:35:35 -0000 Message-ID: <012501c0c8a2$75ccff40$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> From: "Kathy Quinlan" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Bzdik BSD" , "Charles Burns" , , Cc: , , , , References: <008a01c0c89f$ecf665a0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:29:23 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG while we are talking on comparing different cpu classes what about sun spark stations or SG boxes ???? I may have a cpu that can do 20mips, but was not designed to run an os (like embedded micro controllers they run one program for ever) Regards, Kat. PS how did apple compare the adobe Photoshop ?? as I recall the only thing common was the screen layout, other than that the code was completely different. has anyone written a "C" program that is then cross compiled on multiple platforms ????? I know this is not a real "office program" test, but atleast would compare the functions of the cups ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Mittelstaedt To: Bzdik BSD ; Charles Burns ; ; Cc: ; ; ; ; Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:11 PM Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD > It's not a real CPU unless it has fittings for the ethelyne > glycol coolant tubes. :-) > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bzdik BSD > > > > > >G4 stil runs without heatsink - doesn't qualify as a real CPU to me. > >end :)) > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 0:44:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D39337B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:44:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3J7iTk41343; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:44:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Rick Duvall" Cc: "duane jones" , Subject: RE: No Subject Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:44:28 -0700 Message-ID: <008b01c0c8a4$90266140$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There are 56K terminal servers (Ascend MAX 1800 for example) that don't require T1's to interface, they will use ISDN BRI circuits. In fact, I just bought one of these off Ebay (item #1222362943) for $400. I had to get the digital modem card but that was only $900. The setup works beautifully for providing 56K V.90 and ISDN indial. (Yes, we have Real PRI-based terminal servers, this was for a special deal that required this kind of setup) If he's in a small town out in the sticks, and _he_knows_what_the_hell_he's_doing_ then he can set up a small ISP with a handful of dialup ports that will support 56K and ISDN indial and provide a much valued service to the community - and will NOT cost $4K a month with a $12K startup cost. You also don't need a full blown T1 to feed such a setup, a fractional circuit will do, even 56K point-to-point or Frame Relay is quite satisfactory. He could probably haul a long-distance 56K Frame connection from AT&T for about $400 a month and with a MAX fully configured his BRI costs are guing to probably run him another $400, so you can put down a recurring cost of maybe around $7-900 and by going with BRI's you can add them as you need them, so your egress costs can track your userbase. Assuming 3 year circuit commitals, you can start up a small ISP out in the tulaberries for maybe $3K startup costs if your very careful in your purchasing. With a setup like I described you could easily serve 200 users off a fully deployed MAX and @ $20 a month per head, you could make enough to live off, assuming you own your property and grow your own vegetables. There's quite valid business models for small rural ISP's for people with the stomach to sign a 36 month circuit contract (which obligates you to $14,000 over 3 years, BTW) and the wherewithall to bugger their local Telco to deliver the circuits. This is why I get enraged when I see governmental money thrown away on "delivering Internet to the rural areas" because the rural areas don't need money for this, they can be self-supporting, all they need are experienced people to get in there and do the work. Unfortunately, however, most of the folks out there attempting to start ISP's in their garages are NOT doing any kind of public service, instead they are cheap bastards living in the middle of a major city that figure they can get a DSL line and a few modem lines and with a little work selling $9-a-month dialups they can get their Internet service paid for free. Needless to say these folks don't know thing one about how an ISP operates and expect the collective wisdom of the Net to tell them all the details. If he really wants to start an ISP and doesen't know where to start then there's nothing better than going and getting himself hired by an ISP and working for them for a few years to gain some experience. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Duvall >Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:40 AM >Cc: duane jones; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: No Subject > > >Yeah, you need a terminal server for providing for either 56K, ISDN, or >analog 33.6 modem connections, as well as a channelized T1 and/or PRI to >the telco with dialtone on a number of channels. You can get a Terminal >server with a serial port in which you can plug in an external CSU to >interface with a T1 line to your upstream provider. > >What services are you planning on offering? You will have to price out >the T1 to run the IP over, and you will have to price out the T1 for >dialup. That will average you (if you are in a small town) about >$4000/mo, plus the installation charge. The terminal server will cost >around 4-12K$. > >FreeBSD would do radius authentication... If you want REALLY small ISP >with as many modems as you have PCI slots and some analog phone lines, >then that a different issue alltogether. > >On 18 Apr 2001, Bob Greene wrote: > >> On 18 Apr 2001 13:34:58 -0400, duane jones wrote: >> > What i am looking for is,a program that will allow me to provide my own >> > internet service from my home, without having to pay an ISP! >can i do this >> > with FreeBSD >> > Check out our home page at >> > >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > >> >> How much do you plan on spending to accomplish this? Setting up an ISP >> is not cheap and unless you're a national carrier, you'll still have an >> ISP of your own at some level. >> >> -- >> Bob Greene >> AustinTX.COM >> 512.835.8005 >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 0:56:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from magicdoor.deam.org (magicdoor.deam.org [62.156.171.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C32337B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mac.list@deam.org) Received: from deam.org (windoze.deam.org [10.10.10.99]) by magicdoor.deam.org (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3J7vLM60177 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:57:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mac.list@deam.org) Message-ID: <3ADE9A51.B0E1B51A@deam.org> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:57:05 +0200 From: mac Reply-To: mac.list@deam.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StarOffice52 References: <20010418230545.E548-100000@scaryg.shacknet.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Gerald T. Freymann" wrote: > I let the computer download all the components for StarOffice52 in the > ports last night... I ran the install, very micro$oft like looking. > > After the install, I ran the make install-user on my "normal" account and > then tonight, decided I would see what it looks like, but only it won't > run! > > I get: > > # make install-user > ELF binary type "0" not known. > Abort trap > *** Error code 134 (ignored) hi, did you install the linux-binary-support and enabled linux as root with "$> linux" ? you can also enable linux at startup via /etc/rc.conf cu mac To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 1: 1:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ringworld.nanolink.com (ringworld.nanolink.com [195.24.48.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9168937B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:01:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@ringworld.nanolink.com) Received: (qmail 14674 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Apr 2001 07:59:57 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:59:57 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: A real stupid-like sessions / group leaders / shells question Message-ID: <20010419105957.C3605@ringworld.oblivion.bg> References: <20010418210622.A2272@ringworld.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010418210622.A2272@ringworld.oblivion.bg>; from roam@orbitel.bg on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:06:22PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:06:22PM +0300, Peter Pentchev wrote: > OK, so this might be really really really stupid, but.. > [snip] > > I somewhat fail to see why a 'bg' of a child process should kill the parent > shell.. I can reproduce this with various combinations of csh, tcsh and bash > as either the login or the child shells. csh/tcsh is the one from today's > -stable, bash is 2.05 from ports. Alright, I think I got it.. I'm not quite sure that tcsh is DTRT, though.. After sprinkling printf()'s all over kill() and killpg1() in kern_sig.c, I got the following: FreeBSD 4.3-RC (RINGWORLD) #56: Thu Apr 19 00:56:15 EEST 2001 This is a MOTD. Live with it. [roam@ringworld:v0 ~]$ tcsh > kill -STOP $$ RDBG kill: psignal 17 to [1139] tcsh [1]+ Stopped tcsh [roam@ringworld:v0 ~]$ bg [1]+ tcsh & RDBG kill: broadcast 19 from [1127 bash] to [-1139] RDBG killpg1_2: psignal 19 to [1139] tcsh [roam@ringworld:v0 ~]$ > RDBG kill: broadcast 1 from [1139 tcsh] to [-1127] RDBG killpg1_2: psignal 1 to [1127] bash RDBG kill: broadcast 1 from [1127 bash] to [-1139] RDBG killpg1_2: psignal 1 to [1139] tcsh RDBG kill: psignal 1 to [1127] bash FreeBSD/i386 (ringworld.oblivion.bg) (ttyv0) login: Then, a ktrace revealed that tcsh, after receiving a SIGCONT and outputting the '>' prompt (just after psignal 19 to [1139]), gets a EIO on read() (quite normal, it's been backgrounded, it has no stdin), and then it happily proceeds to hup its parent process :) Sweet.. but why? :) G'luck, Peter -- If I had finished this sentence, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 1:48:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from algonet.se (garibaldi.tninet.se [195.100.94.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B347137B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:48:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gus@algonet.se) Received: from laptop (du240-253.ppp.algonet.se [195.100.253.240]) by garibaldi.tninet.se (BLUETAIL Mail Robustifier 2.2.2) with ESMTP id 800136.670122.987garibaldi-s1 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:48:42 +0200 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:48:38 +0200 From: Gustaf Tham To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: PCCARD-PCMCIA For Dummies -- where? Message-Id: <20010419104709.20BC.GUS@algonet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.00.03 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've browsed and searched, but can't find anything for a newbie. I managed to get an Adaptec 1460 SCSI-card working, but I don't understand what I did :-) The PCMCIA page in the handbook is blank. Is there not somewhere a page with a few gentle words on the basic principles? Or perhaps a few cookbook-style examples. The PAO page is incomprehensible (to me), the FreeBSD on Laptops page is mostly surveys. This is kinda intimidating for a newcomer. Any input appreciated Gustaf Tham Sweden gus@algonet.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 1:49: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web12006.mail.yahoo.com (web12006.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 209B837B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd2000au@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20010419084858.69981.qmail@web12006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.80.67.48] by web12006.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:48:58 EST Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:48:58 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?k=20s?= Subject: How on earth does Squid-2.3 init???? To: freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Can someone please enlighten me as to how squid starts. It is not in rc.local. I cant find it in inetd.conf...hmmm. The reason(apart from wanting to learn something) is when not connected to dialup, a squid rule creates an error & I'd like to "switch off" squid. Signed Mystified (keith spencer) Thanks heaps _____________________________________________________________________________ http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - Now showing: Dude Where's My Car, The Wedding Planner, Traffic.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 1:51: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linux.ssc.nsu.ru (linux.ssc.nsu.ru [193.124.219.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F79937B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:50:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danfe@inet.ssc.nsu.ru) Received: (qmail 17692 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 08:50:40 -0000 Received: from inet.ssc.nsu.ru (62.76.110.12) by hub.freebsd.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 08:50:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (danfe@localhost) by inet.ssc.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17459; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:50:29 +0700 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:50:29 +0700 (NOVST) From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Strange libraries troubles Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I've been preparing some FreeBSD boxes for the new project going on, and when I already created all needed images, and cloned my second box, I encountered this problem: $ man whatever it yields /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Cannot open "/usr/lib/libz.so.2" Which is very strange :-( When I say $ ldd `which man` I get /usr/bin/man: libz.so.2 => not found (0x0) libc.so.4 => not found (0x0) But (!) when I say $ ldd `which fetch` I get what I normally should: /usr/bin/fetch: libfetch.so.2 => /usr/lib//libfetch.so.2 (0x2806a000) libc.so.4 => /usr/lib//libc.so.4 (0x28074000) Note that both man and fetch are linked against libc.so.4, but it does not find it in case of man. Grepping ldconfig output yields: $ ldconfig -r|grep libz 53:-lz.2 => /usr/lib/libz.so.2 Frankly, I don't quite understand what happened. Manuals *used* to work, that's for sure. I tought of corrupted libraries, but all MD5 sums matched what they should. I even reinstalled man (cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man && make all install) -- didn't help. I removed all hints from /var/run and remade them, no effect. What surprised me as well, was: $ touch /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 touch: ld-elf.so.1: Text file busy What this `text` thing is about? I'd really appreciate this problem solved, and many thanks in advance for any help with regard to this. Oh yeah, it's FreeBSD-4.2-STABLE snapshot from 20010402, kernel/world made on SMP box (p3x2). Any additional information is available upon request. -- WBR Alexey P.S. Sorry for x-posting, I was not quite sure where this letter should have really went. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 1:55:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-sec1.zid.nextra.de (smtp-sec1.zid.nextra.de [212.255.127.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF59537B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:55:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ho@dsa-ac.de) Received: from KOMSERVER.dsa-ac.de ([212.169.172.69]) by smtp-sec1.zid.nextra.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31688 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:55:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from PCHO (PCHO.dsa-ac.de [172.29.25.6]) by KOMSERVER.dsa-ac.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA22037 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:24:23 +0200 Message-Id: <200104190824.KAA22037@KOMSERVER.dsa-ac.de> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Andreas Hofer" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:22:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Another install problem X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, list, I want to install FreeBSD 4.1 or 4.2 from a CDROM drive hooked up to a Adaptec SlimSCSI PCMCIA card on my notebook (no ATAPI CDROM inside). The installer detects and initializes the controller and the PCMCIA card, but it does not see the CDROM drive ("No CDROM drive found" or so). I already installed various operating systems that way without problem. Any clue? Andreas --- DSA - Daten- und Systemtechnik GmbH Dr. Ing. Andreas Hofer Pascalstrasse 28 52076 Aachen- Oberforstbach Tel. : 0 24 08 - 94 92 43 FAX : 0 24 08 - 94 92 92 EMAIL: Andreas.Hofer@dsa-ac.de --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 1:55:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-sec1.zid.nextra.de (smtp-sec1.zid.nextra.de [212.255.127.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE24F37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:55:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ho@dsa-ac.de) Received: from KOMSERVER.dsa-ac.de ([212.169.172.69]) by smtp-sec1.zid.nextra.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31691; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:55:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from PCHO (PCHO.dsa-ac.de [172.29.25.6]) by KOMSERVER.dsa-ac.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21959; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:20:32 +0200 Message-Id: <200104190820.KAA21959@KOMSERVER.dsa-ac.de> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Andreas Hofer" To: RonDzierwa@home.com Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:19:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Install problems Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Ron, hi list, unfortunately I cannot help you very much. Just wanted to tell you that you are not alone: I tried to install 4.1 (and 4.2) on a rather outdated notebook (Oxford Artist, more or less identical to ACER notebook), facing exactly the same problem as you. The standard install kernel did'nt work at all. I then built a customized kernel with the older wd* devices and copied it over to the boot floppy. The kernel recognizes the controller, the disk and everything looks fine, but the installer still sees no disk. Maybe the installer is looking for the wrong nodes in /dev? Anybody there who knows a way to get the installer recognize the wd* devices? Andreas ============================================== Ron Dzierwa wrote: I have a CTX EzBook 800 series on which I have used FreeBSD version 2.2.6 since that version was current. At the time I had to use some of the PAO stuff to get the pcmcia enet to work, but everything else seemed to work fine. I just bought a new disk, and figured i'd install 4.2. The ata driver does not seem to live happily with the disk controller, however. and even the floppy driver seems to be having a problem (fdc0: cannot reserve I/O port range). The ata driver says: atapci0: port 0xfcf0-0xfcff,0x374-0x377,0x170-0x177 ,0x2f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 18.1 on pci0 atapci0: Busmastering DMA not supported ata2: at 0x1f0 on atapci0 ata2: unable to allocate interrupt device_probe_and_attach: ata2 attach returned 6 ata3: at 0x170 on atapci0 ata3: unable to allocate interrupt device_probe_and_attach: ata3 attach returned 6 later on, when the sysinstall menu comes up and i try to allocate disk space it naturally tells me that there are no disks. the old kernel wd driver used to say: wdc0: at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wd0: 3102MB 96354432 sectors), 6304 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/t, 512 B/s wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, ior . .. I have tried enabling and disabling PNP in the bios, and using auto/user config for the disks. all combinations seem to yield the same results - it cant init the disk controllers. I have another FreeBSD system that I use as a workstation. I used it to build a kernel for the boot flop that would stop in the fd driver ( while(1) i++; makes an effective stopper) so that I could see the ata driver messages. If anybody has any fixes or suggestions, I could implement them and test them without any problem. any and all help is appreciated. I really would like to use 4.2 rather than going back to the old 2.2.6! thanks, ron. --- DSA - Daten- und Systemtechnik GmbH Dr. Ing. Andreas Hofer Pascalstrasse 28 52076 Aachen- Oberforstbach Tel. : 0 24 08 - 94 92 43 FAX : 0 24 08 - 94 92 92 EMAIL: Andreas.Hofer@dsa-ac.de --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 2:12: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D0737B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:12:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14qATr-000Jju-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:12:03 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J9C2H25161 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:12:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:12:02 +0100 From: Rasputin To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to people easily update ports with dependencies (such as galeon)? Message-ID: <20010419101202.A24896@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <20010418144251.22905.qmail@web3306.mail.yahoo.com> <20010418121714.J44424-100000@benny.geektank.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010418121714.J44424-100000@benny.geektank.org>; from tmchow@sfu.ca on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 12:18:28PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Trevin Chow [010418 20:20]: > Does this maintain dependencies of all the ports? For example, if > foobar-3.0 depends on barfoo-4.0 and we upgrade barfoo-4.0 to 5.0, > is the dependency from foobar-3.0 updated to depend on barfoo-5.0? Not really no, and I wouldn't recommned running theresulting script directly. Putting the new glib over the old one won't break anything. You can pkg_delete -f glib.... and them put a new one back in , but that could be risky if the libraries have changed significantly. > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Nate Puri wrote: > > > > > pkg_version -c > update_ports.sh > > > > Then go in update_ports.sh and you will see a list up > > ports that need to be updated (and their dependencies > > will be in there too). Delete the top few lines, add > > '#!/bin/sh'; do chmod 755 update_ports.sh, then do > > ./update_ports.sh, and > > viola!, updated ports. -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 2:19:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E950637B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:19:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14qAao-000HKu-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:19:14 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J9JEg25267 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:19:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:19:14 +0100 From: Rasputin To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WaveLAN IEEE driver over ISA to PCMCIA Adapter Card Message-ID: <20010419101913.B24896@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <6BD67FFB937FD411A04F00D0B74FE8787EB5D1@xrose06.rose.hp.com> <021201c0c893$161b27c0$4800a8c0@assa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <021201c0c893$161b27c0$4800a8c0@assa>; from assa@bigline.kharkov.ua on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 08:39:22AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Artyom Taryanik [010419 07:04]: > see www.freebsd.org/~wpaul I'm looking at replacing airports with BSD boxen, so this is handy for me too. Thanks. Oh, and while I'm at it, can I propose http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/daemonette/ as our new mascot? ;^P -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 2:20:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from srvmail.in.telecom.lt (srvmail.telecom.lt [212.59.0.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D274C37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:20:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Pranas.Banys@telecom.lt) Received: by srvmail.in.telecom.lt with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2860FSWB>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:20:36 +0200 Message-ID: <1B615EC3C928D311AB8A0008C7DBCE0F02397EE6@srvmail.in.telecom.lt> From: Pranas Banys To: "'FreeBSD-questions@freeBSD.org'" Subject: as Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:20:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="WINDOWS-1257" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I insert an in $port,%al instruction in my assembly code I get bus error message and core dumped. What might be the cause? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 2:37:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6F137B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:37:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14qAsU-000Li1-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:37:30 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3J9bTt25499 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:37:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:37:29 +0100 From: Rasputin To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How on earth does Squid-2.3 init???? Message-ID: <20010419103729.E24896@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <20010419084858.69981.qmail@web12006.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010419084858.69981.qmail@web12006.mail.yahoo.com>; from bsd2000au@yahoo.com.au on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 06:48:58PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii * k s [010419 09:50]: > Hi all, > Can someone please enlighten me as to how squid > starts. It is not in rc.local. I cant find it in > inetd.conf...hmmm. > The reason(apart from wanting to learn something) is > when not connected to dialup, a squid rule creates an > error & I'd like to "switch off" squid. > Signed > Mystified (keith spencer) > Thanks heaps Roll your own squid.sh to put in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (See my attached one) I found squid was a bitch to kill off properly, so the stop argument terminates squid and it's little cront, RunCache. Now you can just run it from /etc/ppp/ppp.link{up|down] -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: application/x-sh Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="squid.sh" #!/bin/sh if ! PREFIX=$(expr $0 : "\(/.*\)/etc/rc\.d/$(basename $0)\$"); then echo "$0: Cannot determine the PREFIX" >&2 exit 1 fi case "$1" in start) if [ -x ${PREFIX}/sbin/RunCache -a -f ${PREFIX}/etc/squid/squid.conf ]; then (cd /tmp; ${PREFIX}/sbin/RunCache >/dev/null 2>&1 & && echo ${!} > /var/run/RunCache.pid); echo -n ' squid' fi ;; stop) /bin/kill `cat /usr/local/squid/logs/squid.pid` `cat /var/run/RunCache.pid` ;; *) echo "Usage: `basename $0` {start|stop}" >&2 ;; esac exit 0 --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 2:58:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web12006.mail.yahoo.com (web12006.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD88B37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:58:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd2000au@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20010419095850.79868.qmail@web12006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.80.67.48] by web12006.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:58:50 EST Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:58:50 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?k=20s?= Subject: Re: How on earth does Squid-2.3 init?- Thanks All To: freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Thanks for the help everyone... Kit Kristjan Charminda I am learning everyday. Hey this learning curve is very steep and slippery! Regards Keith Spencer _____________________________________________________________________________ http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - Now showing: Dude Where's My Car, The Wedding Planner, Traffic.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 3: 3:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web12004.mail.yahoo.com (web12004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A84BF37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:03:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd2000au@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20010419100318.65382.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.80.67.48] by web12004.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:03:18 EST Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:03:18 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?k=20s?= Subject: How do I find out ppp version? To: freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, How do I find out the version of ppp I have on my machine? Sorry for seeming a dill but I am a rank novice here. Regards Keith spencer _____________________________________________________________________________ http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - Now showing: Dude Where's My Car, The Wedding Planner, Traffic.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 3:14:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833A337B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:14:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f3JADMl28056; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:13:22 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange libraries troubles Message-ID: <20010419031322.E976@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from danfe@inet.ssc.nsu.ru on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:50:29PM +0700 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Alexey Dokuchaev [010419 01:51] wrote: > Hello! > > I've been preparing some FreeBSD boxes for the new project going on, and > when I already created all needed images, and cloned my second box, I > encountered this problem: It's really hard to diagnose this without knowing the steps you took to "clone" the FreeBSD box. What happens when you reboot or rerun ldconfig to have it rescan the dirs? -- -Alfred Perlstein - [alfred@freebsd.org] Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 3:19:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f80.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8969E37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:19:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from messiah_man@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:19:36 -0700 Received: from 130.225.193.5 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:19:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [130.225.193.5] From: "Munish Chopra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:19:36 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 10:19:36.0325 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C0BC350:01C0C8BA] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Concerning HARDWARE accelerated 3D support: Yes, there is a petition. And no, I don't remember the link. In September of 2000 there was a discussion (on freebsd-hackers ?) in which Nick Triantos (I believe he is the head driver guy at NVIDIA) was involved. Basically, he said that there were exactly three linux source files that needed to be ported to FreeBSD (mostly a matter of OS hooks). I mailed Nick Triantos a few days back, and once again got the response that they're simply too busy right now. They would like to do a port, and they will sometime in the future. He also said that he recently again had been contacted by some FreeBSD people who wanted to get involved in the driver port. I asked him for some e-mail addresses so I could contact them and figure out where things are right now, but he hasn't answered yet. So basically, they will come when NVIDIA's driver people have more time to focus on ports to other platforms. But the above is more or less the jiffy of what's been going on... Regards, --Munish Chopra _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 3:47:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED4637B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:47:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:46:57 +0100 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14qBwP-0006RU-00; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:45:37 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:45:37 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant To: Andrew Hesford Cc: Pablo Quintana , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: A dot in the username In-Reply-To: <20010418175911.A69031@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > Some mail > servers, for instance exim, don't even need a hashed database--they just > parse /etc/aliases directly. Lest mail admins reading this are put off forever, exim has the _capability_ to do this; you can get it to talk to a squillion other kinds of data sources for its information. -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287163 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk The Java disclaimer: values of 'anywhere' may vary between regions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 4:22:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.home.nl (mail3.home.nl [213.51.129.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0711D37B424; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 04:22:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from ricin.localnet ([212.120.84.133]) by mail3.home.nl (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010419112119.HZDO21384.mail3.home.nl@ricin.localnet>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:21:19 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Danny Pansters Reply-To: danny@ricin.com Organization: Ricin.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: rpm or rpm2cpio broken?? (4.3-RC) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:22:00 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041913220000.30352@ricin.localnet> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I just cvsup'ed and upgraded my desktop box from 4.2 stable (12202000) to what is now 4.3RC (04192001) including all ports I wanted to use. I used pkg_version to find out which ports needed recompiling/installation. Almost everything works, even KDE2.1, building the parts one by one. However I ran into two weird problems which look to be related: When trying to compile/install kdeutils-2.1.1 from the ports, it threw me a syntax error when compiling the rpm bits of kpackage (rpm: redhat package manager). I have pasted the output below. Looks like the RPM headers used are wrong? When trying to install the Linux RealPlayer 8 which is to be fectched manually as a RPM package it appeared to either have trouble with RPM or with rpm2cpio. I know from older posts in -questions that rpm2cpio lives in /compat/linux/bin as well as in /usr/local/bin. As the Makefile for RealPlayer seems to use the "native" one I did not attempt to change this. After all, why would they use it if it don't work? I thought that the rpm and the rpm2cpio ports were basically unrelated anyway? Error messages are below. When reinstalling rpm2cpio (hey, you never know :-) I noticed that I had to use NO_CHECKSUM=yes, as if its version number is not correct or something. I'm confused! Can someone help me out? Many thanks in advance, -- Danny Pansters http://www.ricin.com ---- ERROR OUTPUT: ---- ** kdeadmin install fail: gmake[3]: Entering directory /usr/ports/sysutils/kdeadmin/work/kdeadmin-2.1.1/kpackage' c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/qt2 - I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/rpm -I/usr/include -D_GETOPT_H -D_PTH _H_ -D_PTH_PTHREAD_H_ -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/in clude/qt2 -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-long-long -Wnon-virtual-dtor -fno-bui ltin -O -pipe -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -c main.cpp In file included from main.cpp:32: rpmInterface.h:16: syntax error before ;' gmake[3]: *** [main.o] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory /usr/ports/sysutils/kdeadmin/work/kdeadmin-2.1.1/kpackage' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory /usr/ports/sysutils/kdeadmin/work/kdeadmin-2.1.1/kpackage' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory /usr/ports/sysutils/kdeadmin/work/kdeadmin-2.1.1' ** /usr/ports/sysutils/work/kdeadmin-2.1.1/kpackage/rpmInterface.h:16: [...] #ifdef HAVE_RPM #include /* stupid RPM headers! */ typedef __off64_t off64_t; <-- line 16 #include #else typedef struct Header{ }; #endif [...] ** linux-realplayer8 install fail: ricin # make NO_CHECKSUM=yes install ===> Extracting for linux-realplayer-8.cs1 ===> linux-realplayer-8.cs1 depends on executable: rpm2cpio - found CPIO archive found! gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file cpio: premature end of file *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 4:36:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6B9C37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 04:36:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 50461 invoked by uid 100); 19 Apr 2001 11:36:15 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15070.52655.839542.840506@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:36:15 -0500 To: "Michael O'Henly" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports: making XEmacs the default flavour of emacs In-Reply-To: <24855542@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael O'Henly types: > Recently, someone asked about ports that depend on XFree86-3.3.6. They > apparently were using XFree86-4 and did not want 3.3.6 installed whenever > they built an X-based port. The answer was to add a line to /etc/make.conf > saying XFREE86_VERSION=4. > > That's a nice solution. Is there something comparable for emacs? > > I use XEmacs and don't especially want to install emacs when I build an > emacs-related port. For example, /usr/ports/print/auctex tries to install > emacs even though XEmacs is already on the machine. > > I've since read that this particular package (auctex) is actually part of the > XEmacs install, so perhaps it's a bad example. In general, though, can I > defeat the install of emacs in some global way? In looking at that port, it checks to see if ${LOCALBASE/bin/xemacs} exists, and uses xemacs if it does; otherwise it uses emacs. I don't have the xemacs port installed, but it looks like that doesn't create bin/xemacs, but instead creates bin/xemacs-%%EMACS_VER%%. You might try creating bin/xemacs as a link to your favorite version, and seeing if that works. Second choice would be to set EMACS_NAME=xemacs in /etc/make.conf. That should work for the auctext port, but might not for others even if creating bin/xemacs would. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 4:37:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cgmd76206.chello.nl (d9168.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.9.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6386337B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 04:37:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edwin@cgmd76206.chello.nl) Received: by cgmd76206.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 254235C; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:37:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:37:21 +0200 From: Edwin Groothuis To: k s Cc: freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How do I find out ppp version? Message-ID: <20010419133721.A504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , k s , freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20010419100318.65382.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010419100318.65382.qmail@web12004.mail.yahoo.com>; from bsd2000au@yahoo.com.au on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 08:03:18PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 08:03:18PM +1000, k s wrote: > Hi all, > How do I find out the version of ppp I have on my > machine? start ppp and enter "show version" ppp ON kludge> show version PPP Version 2.27 - Nov 20 2000 Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://FatalDimensions.nl.eu.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 4:42:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obelix.rby.hk-r.se (obelix-b.student.bth.se [194.47.132.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8412F37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 04:42:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from t98pth@student.bth.se) Received: from helios.kna.hk-r.se (helios [194.47.153.5]) by obelix.rby.hk-r.se (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f3JBgiM14411 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:42:44 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (t98pth@localhost) by helios.kna.hk-r.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07002 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:43:21 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: helios.kna.hk-r.se: t98pth owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:43:20 +0200 (MEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E4r_Thoren?= X-Sender: t98pth@helios To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Vinum raid 4.3 RC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! after I upgraded to 4.3 RC i got some problem with vinum. z#>> vinum create /etc/vinum.conf 1: drive d1 device /dev/wd1c ** 1 Can't initialize drive d1: Inappropriate ioctl for device 2: drive d2 device /dev/wd2c ** 2 Can't initialize drive d2: Inappropriate ioctl for device 3: drive d3 device /dev/wd3c ** 3 Can't initialize drive d3: Inappropriate ioctl for device Can't create /dev/vinum/: File exists Can't create /dev/vinum/vol/: File exists Can't get config for plex 0: Invalid argument The vinum.conf looks like this: z# cat /etc/vinum.conf=20 drive d1 device /dev/wd1c drive d2 device /dev/wd2c drive d3 device /dev/wd3c volume big plex org concat sd length 0 drive d1 sd length 0 drive d2 sd length 0 drive d3 I=B4m using the old ata driver couse the new ones didn=B4t work. This configuration worked with 4.2 Thank you for your time /P=E4r To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 4:58:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from truemetal.org (truemetal.org [206.168.16.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B24037B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 04:58:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from universe@truemetal.org) Received: (qmail 24484 invoked by alias); 19 Apr 2001 11:53:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truemetal.org) (213.23.52.168) by truemetal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 11:53:57 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADED1E4.3B675F78@truemetal.org> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:54:12 +0200 From: universe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Munish Chopra , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG the link: http://m87-blackhole.org/nvidia_petition/formhandler.html markus Munish Chopra wrote: > > Concerning HARDWARE accelerated 3D support: > > Yes, there is a petition. And no, I don't remember the link. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 5: 6:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linux.ssc.nsu.ru (linux.ssc.nsu.ru [193.124.219.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F0C537B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:06:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danfe@inet.ssc.nsu.ru) Received: (qmail 17861 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 12:06:02 -0000 Received: from inet.ssc.nsu.ru (62.76.110.12) by hub.freebsd.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 12:06:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (danfe@localhost) by inet.ssc.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28680; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:05:38 +0700 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:05:38 +0700 (NOVST) From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange libraries troubles In-Reply-To: <20010419031322.E976@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Alexey Dokuchaev [010419 01:51] wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I've been preparing some FreeBSD boxes for the new project going on, and > > when I already created all needed images, and cloned my second box, I > > encountered this problem: > > It's really hard to diagnose this without knowing the steps you took > to "clone" the FreeBSD box. > > What happens when you reboot or rerun ldconfig to have it rescan the > dirs? Of course, I tried rescanning dirs, recreating hints, reboot, etc. Unfortunately, without much success. By cloning I mean dumping /, /var, /usr with restoring them thereafter (on different harddrive). Of course things like /etc/fstab, hostname, etc. are tweaked to match the reality. -- WBR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 5:52:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C923B37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:52:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francisco.puente@cea.ericsson.se) Received: from mr6.exu.ericsson.se. (mr6u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.123]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f3JCqbB02602 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:52:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from eamrcnt749 (eamrcnt749.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.133.47]) by mr6.exu.ericsson.se. (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3JCqZc27337 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:52:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: FROM eamrcnt750.exu.ericsson.se BY eamrcnt749 ; Thu Apr 19 07:52:34 2001 -0500 Received: by eamrcnt750.exu.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2XPJ6QNP>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:52:34 -0500 Message-ID: <4526F8387AE6D311926C0008C75D2E37034EE371@eambant111.cea.ericsson.se> From: "Francisco Puente (CEA)" To: "'Gustaf Tham'" , FreeBSD-questions Subject: RE: PCCARD-PCMCIA For Dummies -- where? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:52:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0C8CF.97BD87A0" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C8CF.97BD87A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" what is good url for FreeBSD on Laptops?? Thanxs Francisco -----Original Message----- From: Gustaf Tham [mailto:gus@algonet.se] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:49 AM To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: PCCARD-PCMCIA For Dummies -- where? I've browsed and searched, but can't find anything for a newbie. I managed to get an Adaptec 1460 SCSI-card working, but I don't understand what I did :-) The PCMCIA page in the handbook is blank. Is there not somewhere a page with a few gentle words on the basic principles? Or perhaps a few cookbook-style examples. The PAO page is incomprehensible (to me), the FreeBSD on Laptops page is mostly surveys. This is kinda intimidating for a newcomer. Any input appreciated Gustaf Tham Sweden gus@algonet.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C8CF.97BD87A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: PCCARD-PCMCIA For Dummies -- where?

what is good url for FreeBSD on Laptops??
Thanxs

Francisco
-----Original Message-----
From: Gustaf Tham [mailto:gus@algonet.se]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:49 AM
To: FreeBSD-questions
Subject: PCCARD-PCMCIA For Dummies -- where?


I've browsed and searched, but can't find anything for a newbie.
I managed to get an Adaptec 1460 SCSI-card working,
but I don't understand what I did  :-)

The PCMCIA page in the handbook is blank.
Is there not somewhere a page with a few gentle words
on the basic principles?

Or perhaps a few cookbook-style examples.

The PAO page is incomprehensible (to me),
the FreeBSD on Laptops page is mostly surveys.

This is kinda intimidating for a newcomer.

Any input appreciated

Gustaf Tham
Sweden
gus@algonet.se

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C8CF.97BD87A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 6: 0:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freeze.org (www.stelesys.com [208.177.187.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3327137B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:00:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@freeze.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freeze.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3JD04a65067; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:00:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim) X-Authentication-Warning: www.stelesys.com: Processed from queue /var/spool/alt_queue X-Authentication-Warning: www.stelesys.com: Processed by jim with -C /web/siteinfo/freeze/mail/sendmail.cf Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:00:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Freeze X-X-Sender: To: Wayne Pascoe Cc: , "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Re: Using FreeBSD as an X workstation - Not sure how to word question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 18 Apr 2001, Wayne Pascoe wrote: > I normally just use X over ssh when I want to access gui progs on > other machines. I run X on my own machine, then do > xhost +addressofremotemachine > ssh -X machinename > > then launch the command. ssh handles the authentication as well as > making sure that my session is encrypted. It also means that I don't > have to run X ports all over the place. > I just tried this. On my local machine I typed xhost +addressofremotemachine ssh -X remotemachine -l myname xv test.jpg And I get the following error: % xv test.jpg channel 0: istate 4 != open channel 0: ostate 64 != open X connection to eeyore1:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). Do I need to do something else? My local machine is behind a firewall. Thanks ========================================================= Jim Freeze jim@freeze.org --------------------------------------------------------- No comment at this time. http://www.freeze.org ========================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 6: 7: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85C937B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:07:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francisco.puente@cea.ericsson.se) Received: from mr7.exu.ericsson.se. (mr7u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.122]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f3JD74B08629 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:07:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from eamrcnt747.exu.ericsson.se (eamrcnt747.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.133.37]) by mr7.exu.ericsson.se. (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3JD72B02584 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:07:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: FROM eamrcnt751.exu.ericsson.se BY eamrcnt747.exu.ericsson.se ; Thu Apr 19 08:06:52 2001 -0500 Received: by eamrcnt751.exu.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2XPKZ6PA>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:06:52 -0500 Message-ID: <4526F8387AE6D311926C0008C75D2E37034EE372@eambant111.cea.ericsson.se> From: "Francisco Puente (CEA)" To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: PCCARD-PCMCIA Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:04:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0C8D1.35979320" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C8D1.35979320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, Anyone know how to configure a 3com 589c or 3com fe575 (pcmcia) under FreeBSD 4.2 during the installation or post-inst on Tecra 8100 Laptop??? Thanks in advance Francisco ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C8D1.35979320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: PCCARD-PCMCIA For Dummies -- where?
Hi,
 Anyone know how to configure a 3com 589c or 3com fe575 (pcmcia) under FreeBSD 4.2 during the installation or post-inst on Tecra 8100 Laptop???
 
Thanks in advance

Francisco

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C8D1.35979320-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 6:11:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFB837B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:11:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from phantom (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3JDCFK86913; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:12:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Message-ID: <00a501c0c8d2$9d6c9440$0f01a8c0@phantom> Reply-To: "Gerald T. Freymann" From: "Gerald T. Freymann" To: , References: <20010418230545.E548-100000@scaryg.shacknet.nu> <3ADE9A51.B0E1B51A@deam.org> Subject: Re: StarOffice52 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:14:05 -0400 Organization: eagle.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > did you install the linux-binary-support and enabled linux as root with "$> > linux" ? > you can also enable linux at startup via /etc/rc.conf That's likely my problem. I assumed the port installed linux-binary-support... But I definitely know I haven't "loaded" linux as room or put it in /etc/rc.conf. So as room, in a shell, I just type "linux" ? hee hee. gotta like that. Hmmm... do you know what command would go in /etc/rc.conf off hand? -Gerry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 6:12:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mickey.mo-net.com (mickey.mo-net.com [12.14.225.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE51D37B43E for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccoleman@oreilly.com) Received: (qmail 12956 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 13:08:18 -0000 Received: from pm3b-64.mo-net.com (HELO firewall) (12.14.225.93) by mickey.mo-net.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 13:08:18 -0000 From: "Chris Coleman" To: "'Gustaf Tham'" , FreeBSD-questions , "Francisco Puente (CEA)" Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:01:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: PCCARD-PCMCIA For Dummies -- where? Message-ID: <3ADE9B5E.18752.6CF96BB@localhost> In-reply-to: <4526F8387AE6D311926C0008C75D2E37034EE371@eambant111.cea.ericsson.se> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 19 Apr 2001, at 7:52, Francisco Puente (CEA) wrote: I've browsed and searched, but can't find anything for a newbie. http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/11/02/Big_Scary_Daemons.html Chris Coleman Daemon News E-Zine http://www.daemonnews.org Print Magazine http://magazine.daemonnews.org Open Packages http://www.openpackages.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 6:18:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [194.205.134.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AF537B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:18:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waynep@zaphod.realtime.co.uk) Received: from zaphod.realtime.co.uk ([194.205.134.208]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14qEJf-0004rX-01; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:17:47 +0100 Received: from waynep by zaphod.realtime.co.uk with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14qEJT-000194-00; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:17:35 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: Jim Freeze Cc: Wayne Pascoe , , 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Re: Using FreeBSD as an X workstation - Not sure how to word question References: Reply-To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Date: 19 Apr 2001 14:17:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim Freeze writes: > I just tried this. On my local machine I typed > > xhost +addressofremotemachine > ssh -X remotemachine -l myname > > xv test.jpg > > And I get the following error: > > % xv test.jpg > channel 0: istate 4 != open > channel 0: ostate 64 != open > X connection to eeyore1:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). > > > Do I need to do something else? > My local machine is behind a firewall. Sounds like your Xauthority is not set correctly.... Make sure that the bashrc or .profile on the machine that you are sshing to does not explicitly set the XAUTHORITY environment variable. ssh should set this for you, and it should look something like waynep@marvin:~$ env | grep -i auth XAUTHORITY=/tmp/ssh-XX8KSgy5/cookies -- - Wayne Pascoe E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 6:26:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ra.upan.org (ra.upan.org [204.107.76.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C26F37B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Received: from ocsinternet.com (thoth.upan.org [204.107.76.16]) by ra.upan.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JDPaZ15500; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:25:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Message-ID: <3ADEE97D.ED60AC29@ocsinternet.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:34:54 -0400 From: Mikel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gerald T. Freymann" Cc: mac.list@deam.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StarOffice52 References: <20010418230545.E548-100000@scaryg.shacknet.nu> <3ADE9A51.B0E1B51A@deam.org> <00a501c0c8d2$9d6c9440$0f01a8c0@phantom> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG linux_enable="YES" FYI you can always review /etc/defaults/rc.conf for ideas of what you might put in /etc/rc.conf Cheers, Mikel "Gerald T. Freymann" wrote: > > did you install the linux-binary-support and enabled linux as root with > "$> > > linux" ? > > you can also enable linux at startup via /etc/rc.conf > > That's likely my problem. I assumed the port installed > linux-binary-support... > > But I definitely know I haven't "loaded" linux as room or put it in > /etc/rc.conf. So as room, in a shell, I just type "linux" ? hee hee. gotta > like that. > > Hmmm... do you know what command would go in /etc/rc.conf off hand? > > -Gerry > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 6:27:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freeze.org (www.stelesys.com [208.177.187.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5762337B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:27:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@freeze.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freeze.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3JDRhb65784; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:27:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim) X-Authentication-Warning: www.stelesys.com: Processed from queue /var/spool/alt_queue X-Authentication-Warning: www.stelesys.com: Processed by jim with -C /web/siteinfo/freeze/mail/sendmail.cf Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:27:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Freeze X-X-Sender: To: Wayne Pascoe Cc: , "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Re: Using FreeBSD as an X workstation - Not sure how to word question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 19 Apr 2001, Wayne Pascoe wrote: > Sounds like your Xauthority is not set correctly.... Make sure that > the bashrc or .profile on the machine that you are sshing to does not > explicitly set the XAUTHORITY environment variable. ssh should set > this for you, and it should look something like > waynep@marvin:~$ env | grep -i auth > XAUTHORITY=/tmp/ssh-XX8KSgy5/cookies > hmm..., On my machine I get nothing: jfreeze@eeyore1 ('tty') ~ 12 -> env | grep -i auth jfreeze@eeyore1 ('tty') ~ 13 -> ========================================================= Jim Freeze jim@freeze.org --------------------------------------------------------- No comment at this time. http://www.freeze.org ========================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 6:36: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [194.205.134.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9733E37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waynep@zaphod.realtime.co.uk) Received: from zaphod.realtime.co.uk ([194.205.134.208]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14qEam-0004ti-01; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:35:28 +0100 Received: from waynep by zaphod.realtime.co.uk with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14qEaa-0001A7-00; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:35:16 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: Jim Freeze Cc: Wayne Pascoe , , 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Re: Using FreeBSD as an X workstation - Not sure how to word question References: Reply-To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Date: 19 Apr 2001 14:35:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim Freeze writes: > jfreeze@eeyore1 ('tty') ~ 12 -> env | grep -i auth > jfreeze@eeyore1 ('tty') ~ 13 -> Then it looks like ssh is not setting your XAUTHORITY... You need to make sure that ssh on the target machine is configured to forward X11... Check /etc/ssh/sshd_config for 2 lines as follows : X11Forwarding yes X11DisplayOffset 10 They need to be uncommented. Also, do ssh -v -X targetmachine and look for a line like debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. as well as anything similar to that . -- - Wayne Pascoe E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 6:38: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gate1.health.state.ny.us (gate.health.state.ny.us [192.135.176.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DAB7E37B43E for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sds07@health.state.ny.us) Received: by gate1.health.state.ny.us id JAA28076 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:37:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200104191337.JAA28076@gate1.health.state.ny.us> Received: by gate1.health.state.ny.us (Internal Mail Agent-1); Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:37:33 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NYSDOH From: "Steven D. Smith" To: "Josh Paetzel" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:37:10 -0400 Subject: Re: ATI Radeon VE and Xfree 4.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having a similar problem... I just havn't had anytime to work on it... Oh... but I using Suse 7.0... not Freebsd on this box... But if you can get it working, I'll switch this box too! "Josh Paetzel" on 04/19/2001 09:38:47 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: (bcc: Steven D. Smith/HSB/ISHSG/DIVADMIN/DOH) Subject: ATI Radeon VE and Xfree 4.0.3 The XFree page says that the ATI Radeon VE is supported, but I have not been able to get it to work. Has anyone had any luck with this card? I've tried using the r128, ati, and radeon driver with no success. The X server and/or xf86cfg bomb with an error message that says something to the effect of "The details of your card have not been added to blahblahblah.h please contact the XFree porject for help." Sorry that the error message isn't available to me, and yes, I have sent a message to the XFree project. ;) Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 6:52:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from MPI-Softtech.Com (mpi.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CD637B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:52:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@MPI-Softtech.Com) Received: from mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com (dleimbac@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.164]); by MPI-Softtech.Com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MPI-Softtech/evision: 1.3 $) with ESMTP; id IAA16112; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:52:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: NVIDIA Geforce 2mx From: Dave Leimbach To: Munish Chopra , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.10+cvs.2001.04.16.08.00 (Preview Release) Date: 19 Apr 2001 08:53:58 -0500 Message-Id: <987688439.855.1.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks that's a really good update! Dave On 19 Apr 2001 12:19:36 +0200, Munish Chopra wrote: > Concerning HARDWARE accelerated 3D support: > > Yes, there is a petition. And no, I don't remember the link. > > In September of 2000 there was a discussion (on freebsd-hackers ?) in which > Nick Triantos (I believe he is the head driver guy at NVIDIA) was involved. > Basically, he said that there were exactly three linux source files that > needed to be ported to FreeBSD (mostly a matter of OS hooks). > > I mailed Nick Triantos a few days back, and once again got the response that > they're simply too busy right now. They would like to do a port, and they > will sometime in the future. He also said that he recently again had been > contacted by some FreeBSD people who wanted to get involved in the driver > port. I asked him for some e-mail addresses so I could contact them and > figure out where things are right now, but he hasn't answered yet. > > So basically, they will come when NVIDIA's driver people have more time to > focus on ports to other platforms. But the above is more or less the jiffy > of what's been going on... > > Regards, > > --Munish Chopra > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 6:54:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5282437B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:54:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 6AB8255407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594D351610; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:49:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Kathy Quinlan Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt , Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , , , , , , Subject: Different Platforms (was: the AMD factor in FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: <012501c0c8a2$75ccff40$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-19, Kathy Quinlan scribbled: # while we are talking on comparing different cpu classes what about sun spark # stations or SG boxes ???? Sun UltraSPARC workstations/servers are decent... the UltraSPARC IIi is somewhat under powered as a graphics workstation, but would be somewhat decent for creating apps, writing Java applications or backend code, system proc for a mid-frame server, etc. The UltraSPARC III based workstations are getting some of the horsepower that Sun has been lacking in their single/dual processor machines. SGI boxes are nice for multimedia and 3D work, but SGI has been floundering and has made several failed attempts to jump into the x86 workstation/server market. Speaking of different platforms, there is also the Compaq/DEC Alpha :) Now if you want really nice power that can also run FreeBSD... that's the way to go. Unfortunately, Digital (and now Compaq) haven't really marketed the platform very well. I would be kind of nice to see a fully ported version of Windows 2000 (64-bit of course) for the Alpha, but it really get the best out of it... go BSD, Tru64 UNIX or even VMS. # PS how did apple compare the adobe Photoshop ?? as I recall the only thing # common was the screen layout, other than that the code was completely # different. has anyone written a "C" program that is then cross compiled on # multiple platforms ????? I know this is not a real "office program" test, # but atleast would compare the functions of the cups My guess is that Adobe optimized portions of Photoshop (and I do mean portions... usually plug-ins and possibly some of the really repeated functions) for the Mac platform to take advantage of the AltiVec engine. Adobe does similar optimizations for MMX (and possibly SSE, but not SSE-2 if I recall correctly), but what we don't know is if Adobe optimizes the exact same plug-ins and function on both platforms... Apple (and quite a bit of the industry) has been known to do selective comparison; choosing the best of their product versus the worst of their competitor's product. Apple has and will always to `apples to oranges' comparisons (sorry for the pun) because they know that they sell hardware and software to a large cliche and the rest of the people either hate their guts or don't even care. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 6:57: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984FD37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:56:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 43A5155407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31ECF51610; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , , , , , , Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <008a01c0c89f$ecf665a0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-19, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: # It's not a real CPU unless it has fittings for the ethelyne # glycol coolant tubes. :-) So a processor that has a 100W peltier attached to it, with a large copper 'water' block attached to it... with a powerful 25G/m pump, pumping through some type of coolant liquid wouldn't fit your category as a real CPU? :) -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 7: 1:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freeze.org (www.stelesys.com [208.177.187.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC2B37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:01:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@freeze.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freeze.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3JE1gX67415; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:01:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim) X-Authentication-Warning: www.stelesys.com: Processed from queue /var/spool/alt_queue X-Authentication-Warning: www.stelesys.com: Processed by jim with -C /web/siteinfo/freeze/mail/sendmail.cf Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:01:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Freeze X-X-Sender: To: Wayne Pascoe Cc: , "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Re: Using FreeBSD as an X workstation - Not sure how to word question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 19 Apr 2001, Wayne Pascoe wrote: > Jim Freeze writes: > > > jfreeze@eeyore1 ('tty') ~ 12 -> env | grep -i auth > > jfreeze@eeyore1 ('tty') ~ 13 -> > > Then it looks like ssh is not setting your XAUTHORITY... You need to > make sure that ssh on the target machine is configured to forward > X11... > > Check /etc/ssh/sshd_config for 2 lines as follows : > X11Forwarding yes > X11DisplayOffset 10 I uncommented the following two lines: ForwardAgent yes ForwardX11 yes The X11DisplayOffset 10 line did not exist. After supplying my password, I get: debug: Requesting pty. debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. debug: Requesting shell. debug: Entering interactive session. ..[snip login details].. Then there is a pause (..this is new..) And I get: /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/jfreeze/.Xauthority > > They need to be uncommented. > > Also, do ssh -v -X targetmachine > and look for a line like > debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. > as well as anything similar to that . ========================================================= Jim Freeze jim@freeze.org --------------------------------------------------------- No comment at this time. http://www.freeze.org ========================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 7: 6:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gate1.health.state.ny.us (gate.health.state.ny.us [192.135.176.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FA0D37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:06:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sds07@health.state.ny.us) Received: by gate1.health.state.ny.us id KAA02788 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:05:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200104191405.KAA02788@gate1.health.state.ny.us> Received: by gate1.health.state.ny.us (Internal Mail Agent-1); Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:05:05 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NYSDOH From: "Steven D. Smith" To: Linh Pham Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt , Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET, jgowdy@home.com, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:04:33 -0400 Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG you 'guys' are too much! Linh Pham on 04/19/2001 09:51:30 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt cc: Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET, jgowdy@home.com, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG (bcc: Steven D. Smith/HSB/ISHSG/DIVADMIN/DOH) Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD On 2001-04-19, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: # It's not a real CPU unless it has fittings for the ethelyne # glycol coolant tubes. :-) So a processor that has a 100W peltier attached to it, with a large copper 'water' block attached to it... with a powerful 25G/m pump, pumping through some type of coolant liquid wouldn't fit your category as a real CPU? :) -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 7:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8B537B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@uunet.co.za) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 14qF8E-0001BR-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:10:02 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id QAA01354 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:10:01 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 1297; Thu Apr 19 16:09:32 2001 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qF7k-000FAj-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:09:32 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Bounce message processing software Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:09:32 +0200 Message-ID: <58324.987689372@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> From: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I've been contracted to set up a mass mailing system. All my investigation suggests that the sponsor is not involved in spam at all. The list is a confirmed opt-in list, the sponsor insists that they have never sold e-mail addresses and the white hats assure me that the sponsor is not a known spammer. The mass mailing system requires a bounce message processing component. Users reqister by confirmation and the validity of their e-mail addresses entitles them to certain services. Bounced confirmation and or subsequent messages indicate that they are no longer entitled to those services. Therefore, bounce message processing needs to be performed to capture and report invalid e-mail addresses. In my mind, no software could possibly handle every conceivable style of bounce message. However, I'm hoping that there already exists some software that has pattern matching for the most common bounce message styles. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 7:10:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tcpns.com (dsl-64-192-239-221.telocity.com [64.192.239.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FFB37B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcborkow@tcpns.com) Received: from localhost (jcborkow@localhost) by tcpns.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JEAAU04904 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:10:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jcborkow@tcpns.com) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:10:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Borkowsky To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: DMESG question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings! Everytime my FreeBSD machine boots, I see these errors under dmesg. Can somebody tell me where they are coming from? I have configured and rebuilt my own kernel, and none of these devices are listed in the kernel file. Also, I cannot find where the executable "di" is being called from. Any information is appreciated. Thanks! config> di sn0 No such device: sn0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di lnc0 No such device: lnc0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di ie0 No such device: ie0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di fe0 No such device: fe0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config>di ed0 No such device: ed0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config>di cs0 No such device: cs0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config>di bt0 No such device: bt0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config>di aic0 No such device: aic0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config>di aha0 No such device: aha0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di adv0 No such device: adv0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> q To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 7:22:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cgmd76206.chello.nl (d9168.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.9.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C3737B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:22:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edwin@cgmd76206.chello.nl) Received: by cgmd76206.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 538FD7F; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:22:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:22:29 +0200 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Jason Borkowsky Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DMESG question Message-ID: <20010419162229.B504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jcborkow@tcpns.com on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:10:10AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:10:10AM -0400, Jason Borkowsky wrote: > config> di lnc0 > No such device: lnc0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. check for the commands in a file in /boot (can never remember which one it is) and remove them from there or invoke the visual config during bootup and Save & Quit there. These devices were "di"sabled during the first time you ran the visual config. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://FatalDimensions.nl.eu.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 7:24:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail01.domainbank.com (mail.domainbank.com [209.92.184.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7475537B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdmiller@domainbank.com) Received: from mordor (mordor.domainbank.com [192.168.2.18]) by mail01.domainbank.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.5.186) with SMTP id ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:24:03 -0400 Message-ID: <009e01c0c8dc$627ec790$1202a8c0@domainbank.com> From: "Jeff Miller" To: "Jason Borkowsky" , References: Subject: Re: DMESG question Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:24:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Edit /boot/kernel.conf and take out all the ones that it says it cant find. The messages go away. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Borkowsky" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: DMESG question > > Greetings! Everytime my FreeBSD machine boots, I see these errors > under dmesg. Can somebody tell me where they are coming from? I > have configured and rebuilt my own kernel, and none of these > devices are listed in the kernel file. Also, I cannot find where > the executable "di" is being called from. Any information is > appreciated. Thanks! > > config> di sn0 > No such device: sn0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > config> di lnc0 > No such device: lnc0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > config> di ie0 > No such device: ie0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > config> di fe0 > No such device: fe0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > config>di ed0 > No such device: ed0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > config>di cs0 > No such device: cs0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > config>di bt0 > No such device: bt0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > config>di aic0 > No such device: aic0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > config>di aha0 > No such device: aha0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > config> di adv0 > No such device: adv0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. > config> q > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 7:33:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5887537B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:33:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from phantom (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3JEYJK02351; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:34:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Message-ID: <013d01c0c8de$141b1cf0$0f01a8c0@phantom> Reply-To: "Gerald T. Freymann" From: "Gerald T. Freymann" To: "Mikel" Cc: References: <20010418230545.E548-100000@scaryg.shacknet.nu> <3ADE9A51.B0E1B51A@deam.org> <00a501c0c8d2$9d6c9440$0f01a8c0@phantom> <3ADEE97D.ED60AC29@ocsinternet.com> Subject: Re: StarOffice52 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:36:10 -0400 Organization: eagle.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > linux_enable="YES" > FYI you can always review /etc/defaults/rc.conf for ideas of what you might > put in /etc/rc.conf And stupid me should know that already Thanks. -gf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 7:37: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server1.axiomadvertising.com (server1.axiomadvertising.com [216.251.6.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A1637B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@axiomadvertising.com) Received: from axiomadvertising.com ([216.251.6.139]) by server1.axiomadvertising.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JEalu14667 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:36:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joe@axiomadvertising.com) Message-ID: <3ADEF801.F49B115C@axiomadvertising.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:36:54 -0500 From: Joe Guetler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Named strangeness Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been getting these messages in my security check for a while, and I had read in the archives that they really should be no big deal, but can someone tell me why named keeps attempting to do this? > Connection attempt to UDP www.xxx.yyy.zzz:3315 from www.xxx.yyy.zzz:53 > Connection attempt to UDP www.xxx.yyy.zzz:3364 from www.xxx.yyy.zzz:53 > Connection attempt to UDP www.xxx.yyy.zzz:3477 from www.xxx.yyy.zzz:53 > Connection attempt to UDP www.xxx.yyy.zzz:3500 from www.xxx.yyy.zzz:53 > Connection attempt to UDP www.xxx.yyy.zzz:3535 from www.xxx.yyy.zzz:53 > Connection attempt to UDP www.xxx.yyy.zzz:3634 from www.xxx.yyy.zzz:53 I'm just curious as to the cause, because if it's problem with the way I set up named, I would like to get it fix asap. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 7:47:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from schmoo.tclme.org (schmoo.tclme.org [208.24.53.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 065DE37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:47:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@top-photo.com) Received: (qmail 77223 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 14:43:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO top-photo.com) (rgreene@208.24.52.135) by mail.tclme.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 14:43:31 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADEFCA1.AFC0A1B4@top-photo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:56:33 -0500 From: Info Organization: Top Photo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Rick Duvall , duane jones , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Cheap ISP - Was Re: No Subject References: <008b01c0c8a4$90266140$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > -----------snip 8<---------------- > > If he really wants to start an ISP and doesen't know where to start > then there's nothing better than going and getting himself hired by > an ISP and working for them for a few years to gain some experience. > > > > >> On 18 Apr 2001 13:34:58 -0400, duane jones wrote: > >> > What i am looking for is,a program that will allow me to provide my own > >> > internet service from my home, without having to pay an ISP! > >can i do this > >> > with FreeBSD Yeah, he definitely needs to get his feet wet first. Still, based on the original question, there is no possible solution. He'll have to pay an upstream ISP. -- Bob Greene AustinTX.COM 512.835.8005 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 7:54: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from schmoo.tclme.org (schmoo.tclme.org [208.24.53.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48FA337B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:54:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@top-photo.com) Received: (qmail 78684 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 14:49:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO top-photo.com) (rgreene@208.24.52.135) by mail.tclme.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 14:49:58 -0000 Message-ID: <3ADEFE24.171ED61A@top-photo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:03:00 -0500 From: Info Organization: Top Photo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Guetler Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Named strangeness References: <3ADEF801.F49B115C@axiomadvertising.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Guetler wrote: > > I've been getting these messages in my security check for a while, and > I had read in the archives that they really should be no big deal, but > can someone tell me why named keeps attempting to do this? > > > Connection attempt to UDP www.xxx.yyy.zzz:3315 from www.xxx.yyy.zzz:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP www.xxx.yyy.zzz:3364 from www.xxx.yyy.zzz:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP www.xxx.yyy.zzz:3477 from www.xxx.yyy.zzz:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP www.xxx.yyy.zzz:3500 from www.xxx.yyy.zzz:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP www.xxx.yyy.zzz:3535 from www.xxx.yyy.zzz:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP www.xxx.yyy.zzz:3634 from www.xxx.yyy.zzz:53 > > I'm just curious as to the cause, because if it's problem with the way I > set up named, I would like to get it fix asap. > Please post real data. These log hacks are of little use. If there are repeated attempts from the same address, to be safe, you should probably check your version of BIND and then look at http://www.cert.org/nav/index_red.html -- Bob Greene AustinTX.COM 512.835.8005 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8: 5:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2AA37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:05:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from phantom (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3JF6ZK08082; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:06:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Message-ID: <025f01c0c8e2$967136e0$0f01a8c0@phantom> Reply-To: "Gerald T. Freymann" From: "Gerald T. Freymann" To: "Holtor" , References: <20010419044300.88797.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Libraries and things a file is linked to? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:08:27 -0400 Organization: eagle.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I remember seeing a command that would show what > files or libraries a certain binary is linked to. Um, that would simply be the "locate" command would it? For instance, locate libcrypto (which goes on and on on one of my production boxes) If your machine has been running for over a week, it would have rebuilt the locate database for you already. But if you've been messing with the box, you can manually rebuild the locate database with: /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb Hope that helps. -gf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:15:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.metrocon.com (metrocon.com [198.143.64.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84D437B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:15:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tzink@metrocon.com) Received: from office2.metrocon.com (access.metrocon.com [198.143.64.40]) by mail.metrocon.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA86067; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:15:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tzink@metrocon.com) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010419112529.036641e0@mail.metrocon.com> X-Sender: tzink@mail.metrocon.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:26:09 -0400 To: "Gerald T. Freymann" From: Terry Zink Subject: Re: Libraries and things a file is linked to? Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <025f01c0c8e2$967136e0$0f01a8c0@phantom> References: <20010419044300.88797.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think he's looking for ldd binary not locate example "ldd bash" At 11:08 AM 4/19/01 -0400, you wrote: > > I remember seeing a command that would show what > > files or libraries a certain binary is linked to. > > Um, that would simply be the "locate" command would it? > > For instance, > >locate libcrypto > > (which goes on and on on one of my production boxes) > >If your machine has been running for over a week, it would have rebuilt the >locate database for you already. But if you've been messing with the box, >you can manually rebuild the locate database with: > >/usr/libexec/locate.updatedb > >Hope that helps. > >-gf > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Regards, Terry Zink Metrocon Communications Phone: (212) 661-6800 ext. 1553 Fax: (212) 661-1229 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:16: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dualcpus.com (dualcpus.com [65.160.20.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E62237B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:16:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgowdy@home.com) Received: (qmail 42524 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 15:15:57 -0000 Received: from sherline.cts.com (HELO server2) (204.216.163.132) by dualcpus.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 15:15:57 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01c0c8e3$a65f78e0$015778d8@sherline.net> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Vincent Poy" , "Charles Burns" Cc: , , , , References: Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:16:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? > > > > This depends on what you plan to do. The general consensus among the > > hardware reviewers is that the Athlon is overall faster than any other x86 > > compatible CPU. > > Yep, that's what I read as well but are there any drawbacks to > being faster such as compatibilty and all that stuff? > The compatibility and all that stuff days of the K5 and K6 are long gone. Today, generally, if a cpu is x86 compatible, that's that. There are no compatibility issues with the Athlon. > > The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over the > > Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the Athlon. Could you explain this ? If you're comparing Thunderbirds to Coppermines, I didn't think that was the case. > > The Athlon has a superior floating point unit that is, in addition, more > > deeply pipelined. When using software that isn't optimized for any > > particular FPU, the Athlon is typically just under 30% faster. (Some > > examples of this can be seen on comparisons between the two at Anandtech) > > Yeah, that's what I am concerned about. It seems that most things > are optimized for the Intel CPU's. While the FPU is faster on the Athlon > than the Intel, what about the non-FPU area? In business applications benchmarks the Athlon always stomps the P3. > > The Athlon can take more advantage of higher memory bandwidth than the P3 > > (but probably not the P4), thus you can get a greater performance benefit in > > some cases using DDR RAM. > > Speaking about DDR RAM, what kind of performance hits would there > be using DDR versus non-DDR RAM? If I remember correctly, depending on the type the best SDRAM gets about 800 megs/sec. DDR SDRAM comes in two flavors, 1.6 gigs/sec and 2.1gigs/sec. > > The Athlon is much, much cheaper. Motherboards, however, are more expensive. > > The overall cost ends up lower with the Athlon, especially if you are > > considering the price/perormance ratio. > > Yeah, that's what I realized as well. It seems like the VIA and > AMD chipset based motherboards costs a lot more than the Intel variants. You can get an Athlon motherboard for $100. Even if the Intel motherboard was half that, at $50, the difference in the prices of the cpus is FAR more than $50. Up to $200 in the higher end processors. People always speak of the higher cost of Athlon motherboards but I don't see the point if the AMD cpu is 40% cheaper and the difference in motherboard prices is relatively pennies when you're speaking of a multi-hundred dollar purchase. > Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those. I guess I just wanted to > know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it > under Windows. It's the same. If the code is written and compiled properly, the difference should be seen in all OSes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:18: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net [24.69.46.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10E637B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:17:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (localhost.gv.shawcable.net [127.0.0.1]) by h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3JFKYB43109; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:20:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Michael O'Henly" Reply-To: michael@tenzo.com Organization: TENZO Design To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports: making XEmacs the default flavour of emacs Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:20:34 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <15070.52655.839542.840506@guru.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <15070.52655.839542.840506@guru.mired.org> Cc: Rasputin , Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041908203403.42975@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the reply. You know, I looked at /etc/defauls/make.conf before I posted my question and I don't see any reference to emacs other than the constant for MASTER_SITE_XEMACS. I'm running 4.2. Is it possible that EMACS_NAME only defined in later versions of FreeBSD? If not, is there a convention something like [pkg]_NAME? Thanks. M. On Thursday 19 April 2001 04:36, Mike Meyer wrote: > Michael O'Henly types: [...] > Second choice would be to set EMACS_NAME=xemacs in > /etc/make.conf. That should work for the auctext port, but might not > for others even if creating bin/xemacs would. -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:18:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dualcpus.com (dualcpus.com [65.160.20.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A396537B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:18:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgowdy@home.com) Received: (qmail 42568 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 15:18:05 -0000 Received: from sherline.cts.com (HELO server2) (204.216.163.132) by dualcpus.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 15:18:05 -0000 Message-ID: <001f01c0c8e3$f3164bf0$015778d8@sherline.net> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Vincent Poy" , "Charles Burns" Cc: , , , , References: Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:18:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Note that the AMD and Intel chips aren't slower because of incompetence. > > They need to remain backwards-compatible with the 8086 instruction set and > > some of its methods of doing things. The 8086 processor sucks. It's > > architecture and design suck. They were never meant for general purpose > > computing--more for operating dishwashers and the like. The fact that they > > have advanced so far is a testament to the ingenuity of humanity--and to the > > stubbornness. > > Blame IBM. ;-) > > Hehe... I thought the AMD/Intel were both CISC while the PowerPC > is RISC created by IBM/Motorola/Apple. I guess until the 486, the x86 > architecture was no match for workstations. All Intel and AMD x86 cpus today are RISC processors. They implement their own hidden custom RISC architecture internally. The x86 CISC instructions are translated into fixed length RISC instructions before they are processed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:20:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dualcpus.com (dualcpus.com [65.160.20.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B57CF37B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:20:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgowdy@home.com) Received: (qmail 42604 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 15:20:30 -0000 Received: from sherline.cts.com (HELO server2) (204.216.163.132) by dualcpus.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 15:20:30 -0000 Message-ID: <003b01c0c8e4$498f9860$015778d8@sherline.net> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Bzdik BSD" , "Charles Burns" , , Cc: , , , References: <20010419070901.3608.qmail@web13608.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:20:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > G4 stil runs without heatsink - doesn't qualify as a real CPU to me. > end :)) Hell, seems like a 'realer' CPU to me ! Heatsinks are when we ran out of ideas for making a nice core/pipeline design, so we had to increase speed by ramping up the clock to insane speeds. I'm no Mac lover, but you have to admire the design of the Motorola G4 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:22:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EF137B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:22:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14qGGX-000M3n-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:22:41 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3JFMfr39152 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:22:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:22:40 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: any idea why this file generates unterminated macro error? Message-ID: <20010419162240.A39121@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It's part of an encryption program, and not very long. Thanks for checking it out. jm -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org Bill's Law - "The speed of Windows halves every 18 months." ----------------------------------------------------------- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="sha1.c" #include "string.h" #include "stdio.h" #include "sha1.h" #define rol(value, bits) (((value) << (bits)) | ((value) >> (32 - (bits)))) /* blk0() and blk() perform the initial expand. */ /* I got the idea of expanding during the round function from SSLeay */ #ifdef LITTLE_ENDIAN #define blk0(i) (block->l[i] = (rol(block->l[i],24)&0xFF00FF00) \ |(rol(block->l[i],8)&0x00FF00FF)) #else #define blk0(i) block->l[i] #endif #define blk(i) (block->l[i&15] = rol(block->l[(i+13)&15]^block->l[(i+8)&15] \ ^block->l[(i+2)&15]^block->l[i&15],1)) /* (R0+R1), R2, R3, R4 are the different operations used in SHA1 */ #define R0(v,w,x,y,z,i) z+=((w&(x^y))^y)+blk0(i)+0x5A827999+rol(v,5);w=rol(w,30); #define R1(v,w,x,y,z,i) z+=((w&(x^y))^y)+blk(i)+0x5A827999+rol(v,5);w=rol(w,30); #define R2(v,w,x,y,z,i) z+=(w^x^y)+blk(i)+0x6ED9EBA1+rol(v,5);w=rol(w,30); #define R3(v,w,x,y,z,i) z+=(((w|x)&y)|(w&x))+blk(i)+0x8F1BBCDC+rol(v,5);w=rol(w,30); #define R4(v,w,x,y,z,i) z+=(w^x^y)+blk(i)+0xCA62C1D6+rol(v,5);w=rol(w,30); /* Hash a single 512-bit block. This is the core of the algorithm. */ void SHA1Transform(unsigned long state[5], unsigned char buffer[64]) { unsigned long a, b, c, d, e; typedef union { unsigned char c[64]; unsigned long l[16]; } CHAR64LONG16; CHAR64LONG16* block; block = (CHAR64LONG16*)buffer; /* Copy context->state[] to working vars */ a = state[0]; b = state[1]; c = state[2]; d = state[3]; e = state[4]; /* 4 rounds of 20 operations each. Loop unrolled. */ R0(a,b,c,d,e, 0); R0(e,a,b,c,d, 1); R0(d,e,a,b,c, 2); R0(c,d,e,a,b, 3); R0(b,c,d,e,a, 4); R0(a,b,c,d,e, 5); R0(e,a,b,c,d, 6); R0(d,e,a,b,c, 7); R0(c,d,e,a,b, 8); R0(b,c,d,e,a, 9); R0(a,b,c,d,e,10); R0(e,a,b,c,d,11); R0(d,e,a,b,c,12); R0(c,d,e,a,b,13); R0(b,c,d,e,a,14); R0(a,b,c,d,e,15); R1(e,a,b,c,d,16); R1(d,e,a,b,c,17); R1(c,d,e,a,b,18); R1(b,c,d,e,a,19); R2(a,b,c,d,e,20); R2(e,a,b,c,d,21); R2(d,e,a,b,c,22); R2(c,d,e,a,b,23); R2(b,c,d,e,a,24); R2(a,b,c,d,e,25); R2(e,a,b,c,d,26); R2(d,e,a,b,c,27); R2(c,d,e,a,b,28); R2(b,c,d,e,a,29); R2(a,b,c,d,e,30); R2(e,a,b,c,d,31); R2(d,e,a,b,c,32); R2(c,d,e,a,b,33); R2(b,c,d,e,a,34); R2(a,b,c,d,e,35); R2(e,a,b,c,d,36); R2(d,e,a,b,c,37); R2(c,d,e,a,b,38); R2(b,c,d,e,a,39); R3(a,b,c,d,e,40); R3(e,a,b,c,d,41); R3(d,e,a,b,c,42); R3(c,d,e,a,b,43); R3(b,c,d,e,a,44); R3(a,b,c,d,e,45); R3(e,a,b,c,d,46); R3(d,e,a,b,c,47); R3(c,d,e,a,b,48); R3(b,c,d,e,a,49); R3(a,b,c,d,e,50); R3(e,a,b,c,d,51); R3(d,e,a,b,c,52); R3(c,d,e,a,b,53); R3(b,c,d,e,a,54); R3(a,b,c,d,e,55); R3(e,a,b,c,d,56); R3(d,e,a,b,c,57); R3(c,d,e,a,b,58); R3(b,c,d,e,a,59); R4(a,b,c,d,e,60); R4(e,a,b,c,d,61); R4(d,e,a,b,c,62); R4(c,d,e,a,b,63); R4(b,c,d,e,a,64); R4(a,b,c,d,e,65); R4(e,a,b,c,d,66); R4(d,e,a,b,c,67); R4(c,d,e,a,b,68); R4(b,c,d,e,a,69); R4(a,b,c,d,e,70); R4(e,a,b,c,d,71); R4(d,e,a,b,c,72); R4(c,d,e,a,b,73); R4(b,c,d,e,a,74); R4(a,b,c,d,e,75); R4(e,a,b,c,d,76); R4(d,e,a,b,c,77); R4(c,d,e,a,b,78); R4(b,c,d,e,a,79); /* Add the working vars back into context.state[] */ state[0] += a; state[1] += b; state[2] += c; state[3] += d; state[4] += e; /* Wipe variables */ a = b = c = d = e = 0; } /* Initialize new context */ void hash_initial(hash_context* context) { /* SHA1 initialization constants */ context->state[0] = 0x67452301; context->state[1] = 0xEFCDAB89; context->state[2] = 0x98BADCFE; context->state[3] = 0x10325476; context->state[4] = 0xC3D2E1F0; context->count[0] = context->count[1] = 0; } /* Run your data through this. */ void hash_process( hash_context * context, unsigned char * data, unsigned len ) { unsigned int i, j; unsigned long blen = ((unsigned long)len)<<3; j = (context->count[0] >> 3) & 63; if ((context->count[0] += blen) < blen ) context->count[1]++; context->count[1] += (len >> 29); if ((j + len) > 63) { memcpy(&context->buffer[j], data, (i = 64-j)); SHA1Transform(context->state, context->buffer); for ( ; i + 63 < len; i += 64) { SHA1Transform(context->state, &data[i]); } j = 0; } else i = 0; memcpy(&context->buffer[j], &data[i], len - i); } /* Add padding and return the message digest. */ void hash_final( hash_context* context, unsigned long digest[5] ) { unsigned long i, j; unsigned char finalcount[8]; for (i = 0; i < 8; i++) { finalcount[i] = (unsigned char)((context->count[(i >= 4 ? 0 : 1)] >> ((3-(i & 3)) * 8) ) & 255); /* Endian independent */ } hash_process(context, (unsigned char *)"\200", 1); while ((context->count[0] & 504) != 448) { hash_process(context, (unsigned char *)"\0", 1); } hash_process(context, finalcount, 8); /* Should cause a SHA1Transform() */ for (i = 0; i < 5; i++) { digest[i] = context->state[i]; } /* Wipe variables */ i = j = 0; memset(context->buffer, 0, 64); memset(context->state, 0, 20); memset(context->count, 0, 8); memset(&finalcount, 0, 8); return; } --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="sha1.h" #define HW 5 typedef struct { unsigned long state[5]; unsigned long count[2]; unsigned char buffer[64]; } hash_context; void hash_initial( hash_context * c ); void hash_process( hash_context * c, unsigned char * data, unsigned len ); void hash_final( hash_context * c, unsigned long[HW] ); --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:28: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server1.axiomadvertising.com (server1.axiomadvertising.com [216.251.6.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8808937B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:27:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@axiomadvertising.com) Received: from axiomadvertising.com ([216.251.6.139]) by server1.axiomadvertising.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JFRju14811; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:27:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joe@axiomadvertising.com) Message-ID: <3ADF03F3.D00D3AE9@axiomadvertising.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:27:52 -0500 From: Joe Guetler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Info Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Named strangeness References: <3ADEF801.F49B115C@axiomadvertising.com> <3ADEFE24.171ED61A@top-photo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Apr 18 17:02:24 server1 named[13047]: starting (/etc/namedb/named.conf). named 8.2.3-REL Tue Jan 30 11:59:25 CST 2001 root@foo.bar.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named FreeBSD server1 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 30 13:42:37 CST 2001 root@server1:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 > Connection attempt to UDP 216.251.6.158:4329 from 216.251.6.158:53 > Connection attempt to UDP 216.251.6.158:4365 from 216.251.6.158:53 > Connection attempt to UDP 216.251.6.158:4460 from 216.251.6.158:53 > Connection attempt to UDP 216.251.6.158:4476 from 216.251.6.158:53 > Connection attempt to UDP 216.251.6.158:4495 from 216.251.6.158:53 > Connection attempt to UDP 216.251.6.158:4516 from 216.251.6.158:53 Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:28:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oddjob.adhesivemedia.com (oddjob.adhesivemedia.com [207.202.159.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8881C37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:28:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost) by oddjob.adhesivemedia.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JFRxp12829; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:27:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philip@adhesivemedia.com) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:27:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Subject: Re: Bounce message processing software In-Reply-To: <58324.987689372@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know if it's still around but search for Smart Bounce (or maybe SmartBounce). It does exactly what you're trying to do below and with pretty good results. I used to use it in a previous job where we had about 40 different lists the largest being about 300,000 users. -philip On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I've been contracted to set up a mass mailing system. All my > investigation suggests that the sponsor is not involved in spam at all. > The list is a confirmed opt-in list, the sponsor insists that they have > never sold e-mail addresses and the white hats assure me that the > sponsor is not a known spammer. > > The mass mailing system requires a bounce message processing component. > Users reqister by confirmation and the validity of their e-mail > addresses entitles them to certain services. Bounced confirmation and > or subsequent messages indicate that they are no longer entitled to > those services. > > Therefore, bounce message processing needs to be performed to capture > and report invalid e-mail addresses. > > In my mind, no software could possibly handle every conceivable style of > bounce message. However, I'm hoping that there already exists some > software that has pattern matching for the most common bounce message > styles. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Ciao, > Sheldon. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:29:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8278637B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:29:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14qGMx-0002J3-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:29:19 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3JFTJ939238 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:29:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:29:19 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: can someone PLEASE help me with jdk 1.2? Message-ID: <20010419162918.B39121@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm at my wits end. I've been working on this for 2 days now, and running into every possible problem. Here is the latest obstacle: error: ALT_BOOTDIR does not point to a valid jdk. I have linux-jdk1.2 installed, as well as linux_base and the linux kld. Any ideas? Please help, i need this for a school assignment. jm -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org Bill's Law - "The speed of Windows halves every 18 months." ----------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:31:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web3303.mail.yahoo.com (web3303.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.201.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A87637B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:31:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from natepuri@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010419153149.21075.qmail@web3303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.175.88.95] by web3303.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:31:49 PDT Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:31:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Nate Puri Subject: Re: How to people easily update ports with dependencies (such as galeon)? To: Trevin Chow Cc: Philip Hallstrom , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010418121714.J44424-100000@benny.geektank.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Trevin Chow wrote: > Does this maintain dependencies of all the ports? > For example, if > foobar-3.0 depends on barfoo-4.0 and we upgrade > barfoo-4.0 to 5.0, > is the dependency from foobar-3.0 updated to depend > on barfoo-5.0? if you do the pkg_version -c, you will see that indeed barfoo was upgraded as well, if it was, if a dependency does not need to be upgraded, i.e., a gnome packages was upgraded by gtk was not. Or a dependency was upgraded but it's not on your system. pkg_version will do all that work... it's a very cool cool tool... > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Nate Puri wrote: > > > Simple, > > > > do this... > > > > pkg_version -c > update_ports.sh > > > > Then go in update_ports.sh and you will see a list > up > > ports that need to be updated (and their > dependencies > > will be in there too). Delete the top few lines, > add > > '#!/bin/sh'; do chmod 755 update_ports.sh, then do > > ./update_ports.sh, and > > viola!, updated ports. > > > > Later, > > Nate > > --- Philip Hallstrom > wrote: > > > Hi all - > > > I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions > on a > > > painless way to > > > update a port that has dependencies? > > > > > > In my case, I currently have galeon-0.10.2 which > > > requires glib-1.2.10. I > > > currently have glib-1.2.8. The problem is I can > > > remove my galeon port, > > > and install the new one, but installing the new > one > > > will install the new > > > version of glib without removing the old one. > > > > > > is there an easy way to tell it to remove any > old > > > ports of new versions > > > it's installing? > > > > > > thanks! > > > > > > -philip > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to > majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body > of > > > the message > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body > of the message > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:32:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spectre.honk.org (cr876208-a.flfrd1.on.wave.home.com [24.156.43.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB3837B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:32:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpoulin@honk.org) Received: from spectre.honk.org (mpoulin@spectre.honk.org [24.156.43.54]) by spectre.honk.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA11453 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:32:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:32:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Marty Poulin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: timeflies / port 1362? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can anyone tell me or point me to any information on timeflies - tcp & udp port 1362? I came across it during a routine nmap scan of my system and I have no idea what it is. It's listed in /etc/services but I can't find out what it is, what it does, and why it was running (albeit briefly) on my system. Also, is there any way to disable port 111 (sun rpc) and is this a good idea to do? Please respond to my email address, I don't subscribe to the list. Thanks in advance. M. - M - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:37:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.prokk.net (smtp.prokk.net [194.42.198.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9345737B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@prokk.net) Received: from user10.prokk.net (user10.prokk.net [194.42.198.110]) by smtp.prokk.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JFapV58992 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:36:54 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:37:11 +0300 From: green X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49e) Reply-To: green Organization: home X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <29527176.20010419183711@prokk.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: attemp to connect Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi i would like, what my freebsd machine would log any connection attempts on any port.. can i do this with standart freebsd programs, or i need something other for this feature ? plz write me about. thanx. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 8:43:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from valiant.cnchost.com (valiant.concentric.net [207.155.252.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F6F37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:43:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@amgroupadmin.com) Received: from chris (las-DSL113-cust059.mpowercom.net [208.57.113.59]) by valiant.cnchost.com id LAA25280; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:43:20 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.10] Message-ID: <018501c0c8e7$bfcc1f00$0c00a8c0@chris> From: "Chris Smith" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: re: attemp to connect Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:45:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Disposition-Notification-To: "Chris Smith" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG An easy to use program is iplog. Build it from /usr/ports/net/iplog. If you want to get more complicated, try tcpdump or snort. There are many, many others as well. _________________________________________________________________________ Chris Smith American Group Administrators IT Department First National Administrators ----- Original Message ----- From: "green" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: attemp to connect > hi > > i would like, what my freebsd machine would log any connection > attempts on any port.. > > can i do this with standart freebsd programs, or i need something > other for this feature ? > > plz write me about. > thanx. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 9: 0:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from calliope.cs.brandeis.edu (calliope.cs.brandeis.edu [129.64.3.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F15437B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:00:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from meshko@calliope.cs.brandeis.edu) Received: from localhost (meshko@localhost) by calliope.cs.brandeis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12030 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:00:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:00:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Kruk To: Subject: share HP Printer with windows machine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have an HP Desket (932) which is not fully supported on Unix. I havn't tried it yet, but from what I read I get that I will be able to print on it, but not with the best quality (no photo etc). So now I'm thinking about sharing this printer with a Win95 machine through Samba. I *assume* that if I put all the HP windows drivers on that Win95 box it will be able to print high quality through the FreeBSD Samba server. Is this correct? Will the printjob prepared by the Windows drivers come through Samba and lpd unchanged and make this printer happy? TIA mk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 9:13:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from MPI-Softtech.Com (mpi.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A158937B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:13:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@MPI-Softtech.Com) Received: from mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com (dleimbac@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.164]); by MPI-Softtech.Com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MPI-Softtech/evision: 1.3 $) with ESMTP; id LAA29724; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Libraries and things a file is linked to? From: Dave Leimbach To: Gerald "T." Freymann Cc: Holtor , questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <025f01c0c8e2$967136e0$0f01a8c0@phantom> References: <20010419044300.88797.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> <025f01c0c8e2$967136e0$0f01a8c0@phantom> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.10+cvs.2001.04.16.08.00 (Preview Release) Date: 19 Apr 2001 11:14:57 -0500 Message-Id: <987696898.857.8.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Use ldd binary name. On 19 Apr 2001 11:08:27 -0400, Gerald T. Freymann wrote: > > I remember seeing a command that would show what > > files or libraries a certain binary is linked to. > > Um, that would simply be the "locate" command would it? > > For instance, > > locate libcrypto > > (which goes on and on on one of my production boxes) > > If your machine has been running for over a week, it would have rebuilt the > locate database for you already. But if you've been messing with the box, > you can manually rebuild the locate database with: > > /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb > > Hope that helps. > > -gf > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 9:19:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50D0D37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 56049 invoked by uid 100); 19 Apr 2001 16:19:20 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15071.4104.254684.541364@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:19:20 -0500 To: michael@tenzo.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports: making XEmacs the default flavour of emacs In-Reply-To: <01041908203403.42975@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> References: <15070.52655.839542.840506@guru.mired.org> <01041908203403.42975@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael O'Henly types: > Thanks for the reply. You know, I looked at /etc/defauls/make.conf before I > posted my question and I don't see any reference to emacs other than the > constant for MASTER_SITE_XEMACS. > > I'm running 4.2. Is it possible that EMACS_NAME only defined in later > versions of FreeBSD? EMACS_NAME is used in the makefile for the port you referenced. That's why creating ${LOCALBASE}/bin/xemacs is a better solution. The port checks for that and sets EMACS_NAME appropriately. If not, is there a convention something like [pkg]_NAME? > > Thanks. > > M. > > On Thursday 19 April 2001 04:36, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Michael O'Henly types: > > [...] > > > Second choice would be to set EMACS_NAME=xemacs in > > /etc/make.conf. That should work for the auctext port, but might not > > for others even if creating bin/xemacs would. > > -- > Michael O'Henly > TENZO Design > -- Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 9:26:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web10301.mail.yahoo.com (web10301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9765A37B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:26:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from donnymgarcia@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010419162653.89548.qmail@web10301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.1.157.212] by web10301.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:26:53 PDT Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:26:53 -0700 (PDT) From: donny garcia Reply-To: donny@yahoo-inc.com Subject: ipfw question To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, how can i go about allowing ssh with the following rules in /etc/rc.firewall. when i add the line '0050' im not allowed ssh access from anywhere, but when i remove it i am able to ssh. ( but my internal boxes cant get on the net :( ) ive tried adding 'ipfw add pass tcp from any to any 22' to /etc/rc.firewall, but that didn't work either. can someone pls educate me? thx! 00050 1648 491176 divert 8668 ip from any to any via dc0 00100 0 0 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 0 0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 65000 2234 858858 allow ip from any to any 65535 5165 416747 allow ip from any to any __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 9:43: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from omta02.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4EB37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:43:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@sysmach.com) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta02.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0141C387F; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id E59852744; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:42:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Kyle To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" Cc: "Bzdik BSD" , "Charles Burns" , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Reply-To: freebsd@sysmach.com X-Originating-Ip: [204.196.180.47] Message-Id: <20010419164255.E59852744@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- "Jeremiah Gowdy" > wrote: >> G4 stil runs without heatsink - doesn't qualify as a real CPU to me. >> end :)) > >Hell, seems like a 'realer' CPU to me ! Heatsinks are when we ran out of >ideas for making a nice core/pipeline design, so we had to increase speed by >ramping up the clock to insane speeds. > >I'm no Mac lover, but you have to admire the design of the Motorola G4 I sorta dislike Macs, as they're just weird, and I dont like their OS. But I agree that heatsinks and fans are solutions to increase CPU performance the easy way. Like athletes using drugs and stimulants. I'd give G4 the credit although I dont like Macs. :/ == _____________________________________________ /"\ ASCII Ribbon campaign against E-Mail \ / in gratuitous HTML and Microsoft X proprietary formats. / \ _____________________________________________________________ Systems at MACHSPEED!! http://sysmach.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 9:44:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F39E37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:44:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14qHXp-000ICf-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:44:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:44:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to connect to the internet through a proxy Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, My FreeBSD box is on the inside of a proxy server. I would like to connect it to the internet so that I can download files with it. How do I set FreeBSd up to do this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 9:45:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55CA37B630 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:45:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave_smith4@hp.com) Received: from amrelay1.boi.hp.com (amrelay1.boi.hp.com [15.56.8.24]) by palrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5B7129C; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xpabh4.corp.hp.com (xpabh4.corp.hp.com [15.58.136.1]) by amrelay1.boi.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id KAA07043; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:45:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by xpabh4.corp.hp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:45:22 -0700 Message-ID: <6BD67FFB937FD411A04F00D0B74FE8787EB5D2@xrose06.rose.hp.com> From: "SMITH,DAVE (HP-Roseville,ex1)" To: "'Artyom Taryanik'" , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: WaveLAN IEEE driver over ISA to PCMCIA Adapter Card Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:45:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the reference. I did see www.freebsd.org/~wpaul It help marginally. It seemed to be more geared to FreeBSD releases earlier than 4.0. Most of the information was already set in the GENERIC configuration, however some information was a little different, namely controller card device pcic0 at card ? .... device pcic1 at card ? .... .... device wi at isa ? .... instead of the following in 4.2 FreeBSD GENERIC configuration device card device pcic0 at isa ? .... device pcic1 at isa ? .... ..... device wi The only thing I got from the above reference was that fact that pccard_enable="YES" and pccard_mem="DEFAULT" needed to be set in /etc/rc.conf (I think). Thanks again for the suggestion.... Dave Smith -----Original Message----- From: Artyom Taryanik [mailto:assa@bigline.kharkov.ua] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:39 PM To: SMITH,DAVE (HP-Roseville,ex1) Subject: Re: WaveLAN IEEE driver over ISA to PCMCIA Adapter Card see www.freebsd.org/~wpaul ----- Original Message ----- From: SMITH,DAVE (HP-Roseville,ex1) To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:06 AM Subject: WaveLAN IEEE driver over ISA to PCMCIA Adapter Card > Hello everyone, > > I am have a problem with 4.2 FreeBSD release installing a > WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 Silver card (bought from Lucent) with a > ISA to PCMCIA Adapter (bought from Lucent). > > I believe that the problem is related to the ISA to PCMCIA > adapter card that I am using. > Here is my configuration.... > > HP Netserver E-40 > 200MHZ Pentium Pro > 64MB of RAM > 2.0GB Hard Disk > ISA to PCMCIA Adapter (bought from Lucent) > WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 Silver card (bought from Lucent) > PC-100 Extender card (for diagnostics) > > The system starts up fine and runs great, I just don't get the > WaveLAN card to be identified. There are no system crashes or > anything like that. I do get the following errors as a result > of the pccard_enable="YES" which I added to enable Pccard services. > > pccardd: /dev/card0 Device not configured. > pccardd: /dev/card1 Device not configured. > > I believe that I have got to solve this problem first before moving > any further. As far as I can tell, using the PC-100 Extender Card, > power is never applied to the WaveLAN card. So I don't see how it > can be detected until I can get the power enabled. > > I am not sure what the following message means aside from the obvious. > > pccardd: /dev/card0 Device not configured. > > I believe that it means that the ISA to PCMCIA bridge has not been > configured properly and therefore the /dev/card0 cannot be configured > properly because the system cannot see the PCMCIA bridge setting on > the ISA bus. Any ideas? Perhaps the ISA to PCMCIA bridge is not > supported on FreeBSD! > > I have device isa in the GENERIC configuration file which I copied to > my own file for editing purposes and rebuilt the kernel based on my > copy. I also have device card, device pcic0, device pcic1 and device wi > in the configuration file. All of those things were part of the 4.2 > FreeBSD release GENERIC configuration. Only pccard was not enabled. > in /etc/rc.conf (I think) The system that I am working with is not > available to inspect to get the exact file name. > > Any ideas? > > Dave Smith > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 9:54:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail200.swst.com (mail200.swst.com [199.34.16.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA9A37B43F for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:54:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from RClark@swst.com) Received: from assentor1.swst.com (assentor.swst.com [209.51.28.15]) by mail200.swst.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f3JGsVS06592 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:54:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sws_excg3.swst.com (unverified) by assentor1.swst.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:54:40 -0500 Received: by sws-excg3.swst.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2654.52) id <29D02WD8>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:54:03 -0500 Message-Id: From: Ronnie Clark To: "'Rick Duvall'" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: How to connect to the internet through a proxy Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:52:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2654.52) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rick, I also have a FreeBSD box behind a proxy. I can surf the web just fine by manually pointing Netscape to use the proxy box. (In Netscape, click on "Edit", "Preferences", then at the bottom in the "Advanced" area, you should see "proxies". Choose "Manual Proxy config" and set up your proxy's ip address and ports in the appropriate blanks). The only thing that I have not figured out, and wonder if this is actually what you are talking about, is when I go to /usr/ports/"xyz", and try to do a command line "make install" of a port, it will not auto magically get out to the internet and I do not know how to tell it to use a proxy. Hope this helped, even if it was only a little bit. Ronnie Clark A+, MCSE, CCSA, CCSE -----Original Message----- From: Rick Duvall [mailto:maillist@coastsight.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:45 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How to connect to the internet through a proxy Hi, My FreeBSD box is on the inside of a proxy server. I would like to connect it to the internet so that I can download files with it. How do I set FreeBSd up to do this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 9:59:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mira.it.uc3m.es (mira.it.uc3m.es [163.117.139.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5CC37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:59:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrh@it.uc3m.es) Received: from it.uc3m.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mira.it.uc3m.es (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JGwst04775 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:58:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jrh@it.uc3m.es) Message-ID: <3ADF194E.86C785C7@it.uc3m.es> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:58:54 +0200 From: Juan Fco Rodriguez Hervella X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: gmake port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I am using FreeBSD-4.2-RELEASE. I have run "/usr/ports/devel/gmake/> make deinstall" and later "/usr/ports/devel/gmake/> make reinstall" and the following error appears: root@mira:/usr/ports/devel/gmake# make reinstall ===> Installing for gmake-3.79.1 ===> gmake-3.79.1 depends on shared library: intl.1 - found mtree: line 45: unknown user man *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake. *** Error code 1 I have done this because the quakeforge reported to me an error when I execute make, and in quake-users list they recommended to me to upgrade to "gnu make"... but this is another question. Thanks in advance. -- ********************************* Juan F. Rodriguez Hervella Universidad Carlos III de Madrid ******************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 10: 2:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 37E7C37B43E for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:02:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk) Received: from unknown (HELO as2.kptn.org) (210.186.38.93) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 17:02:10 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:07:59 +0800 From: Alvin Sim X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52 Beta/4) Reply-To: Alvin Sim Organization: n/a X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1203460005.20010420010759@yahoo.co.uk> To: hawkeyd@visi.com ((D J Hawkey Jr)) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[4]: stop ppp dialing on boot (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello D, Friday, April 20, 2001, 12:43:53 AM, you wrote: > newsgroups with an INN client, or strictly by the mailing lists. > Dave > ---8<--- > Path: ruti.visi.com!not-for-mail > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Sender: hawkeyd@visi.com > X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.8a > Reply-To: hawkeyd@visi.com > Organization: if (!FIFO) if (!LIFO) break; > References: <049401c0c7c8$db4c2100$548d093d_oracle@ns.sol.net> > <1681539113.20010418182805_yahoo.co.uk@ns.sol.net> > From: hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) > Subject: Re: Re[4]: stop ppp dialing on boot > Newsgroups: sol.lists.freebsd.questions > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Lines: 95 > Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:55:29 GMT > NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.98.170.214 > X-Complaints-To: abuse@visi.com > X-Trace: ruti.visi.com 987688529 209.98.170.214 (Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:55:29 CDT) > NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:55:29 CDT > Xref: ruti.visi.com sol.lists.freebsd.questions:68865 > In article <1681539113.20010418182805_yahoo.co.uk@ns.sol.net>, > bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk writes: >> >> ############## >> # rc.conf >> # >> ### Basic network: ### >> network_interfaces="lo0 rl0" >> ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" >> ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" >> hostname="hostname.domain.org" > If you're not running 'named' (per below), I assume "hostname" and > "domain.org" are in /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf, but what is the > resolver using? That is, what is the "nameserver" line(s) in the > latter file pointing to? yes, your assumptions are correct. "hostname" and "domain.org" ar ein /etc/hosts. nameserver points to my isp, indeed. > If it's pointing to your ISP's DNS server, doesn't that solve the > mystery? Your resolver is going out through the PPP link to ask their > DNS server any queries your network's machines have about themselves, > as well as the outside world, no? i suppose it does. so, if it is so, how do i _not_ point it to my isp's dns server? or is that even possible? >> # >> ### Network routing options: ### >> gateway_enable="YES" > Have you checked that your other machines aren't requesting anything > through your FreeBSD box (the gateway)? yes. and i am sure that none of the other boxes are requesting anything from the FreeBSD box. (i.e. none of the other 2 machines are even online/up). >> # >> # NAT settings >> natd_enable="YES" >> natd_interface="tun0" >> natd_flags="-dynamic" > I'm foggy on this... Does 'natd' do a DNS lookup on initialization? i'm not sure myself but it's what is stated in the handbook/tutorial chapter on firewall. > I've set mine on differently; 'natd' isn't started on boot, but on > first need of the PPP interface. i dont get it. can you explain a little more on this. >> # >> # DNS options >> named_enable="NO" >> nisdomainname="NO" >> >> [SNIP] >> >> ################################################################# >> # PPP Sample Configuration File >> # Originally written by Toshiharu OHNO >> # Simplified 5/14/1999 by wself@cdrom.com >> # >> # $FreeBSD: src/etc/ppp/ppp.conf,v 1.2 1999/08/27 23:24:08 peter Exp $ >> ################################################################# >> >> default: >> >> allow users ntuser 98user >> # nat enable yes >> # >> # From the FreeBSD Handbook, Sect. 16.2.1.5.3 - Receiving Incoming Calls >> # Enabling packet forwarding in local LAN >> # enable proxy >> >> [SNIP] >> >> provider: >> set authname _AUTHNAME_ >> set authkey _AUTHKEY_ >> set phone _123456_ >> set timeout 120 >> set openmode active >> accept chap >> set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 >> add default HISADDR >> enable dns > AFAIK, the "set ifaddr" line is for the other side of the PPP interface. > The ten-dot network is your internal network (by the "ifconfig_rl0=" line). > I think these are then treated as dummies, and PPP negotiation determines > what they really will be. > After the link is up, what does 'ifconfig rl0' show? as1# ifconfig rl0 rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 inet6 fe80::240:95ff:fe2d:13e1%rl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:40:95:2d:13:e1 media: autoselect (none) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX > I'm foggy on this, too. Does it do a DNS query in the course of execution? it might be. i dont know, really. > No answers, sorry, but maybe some things to look into. > Dave -- Alvin bsd140870@yahoo.co.uk _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 10:15:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547E237B43E for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:15:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14qI1v-000IGB-00; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:15:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:15:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: Ronnie Clark Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: How to connect to the internet through a proxy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, well... This is really a test box where I compile programs and stuff to put on the actual servers outside the firewall. But, i want to be able to have /usr/ports work, and command line ftp work.... On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Ronnie Clark wrote: > Rick, > > I also have a FreeBSD box behind a proxy. I can surf the web just fine by > manually pointing Netscape to use the proxy box. (In Netscape, click on > "Edit", "Preferences", then at the bottom in the "Advanced" area, you should > see "proxies". Choose "Manual Proxy config" and set up your proxy's ip > address and ports in the appropriate blanks). > The only thing that I have not figured out, and wonder if this is actually > what you are talking about, is when I go to /usr/ports/"xyz", and try to do > a command line "make install" of a port, it will not auto magically get out > to the internet and I do not know how to tell it to use a proxy. > Hope this helped, even if it was only a little bit. > > Ronnie Clark > A+, MCSE, CCSA, CCSE > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Duvall [mailto:maillist@coastsight.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:45 AM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: How to connect to the internet through a proxy > > > Hi, > > My FreeBSD box is on the inside of a proxy server. I would like to > connect it to the internet so that I can download files with it. 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------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0C804.D02B58E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 10:40:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spitfire.velocet.net (spitfire.velocet.net [209.167.225.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5687337B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:40:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ddavid_3@yahoo.com) Received: from david.thecafe.ca (H185.C193.tor.velocet.net [216.138.193.185]) by spitfire.velocet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 43A2F19A151; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: David Reply-To: ddavid_3@yahoo.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: How to connect to the internet through a proxy Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:31:56 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: RClark@swst.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041913315600.00349@david.thecafe.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I believe make.conf has you answer, # If you're behind a firewall and need FTP or HTTP proxy services for # ports collection fetching to work, the following examples give the # necessary syntax. See the fetch(3) man page for details. # #FTP_PROXY= 10.0.0.1:21 #HTTP_PROXY= 10.0.0.1:80 # # David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 10:46:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail200.swst.com (mail200.swst.com [199.34.16.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AE737B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:46:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from RClark@swst.com) Received: from assentor1.swst.com (assentor.swst.com [209.51.28.15]) by mail200.swst.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f3JHkXS18599 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:46:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sws_excg3.swst.com (unverified) by assentor1.swst.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:47:43 -0500 Received: by sws-excg3.swst.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2654.52) id <29D02YW5>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:47:06 -0500 Message-Id: From: Ronnie Clark To: "'ddavid_3@yahoo.com'" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: How to connect to the internet through a proxy Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:45:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2654.52) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you!!!! Ronnie Clark A+, MCSE, CCSA, CCSE -----Original Message----- From: David [mailto:ddavid_3@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:32 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: RClark@swst.com Subject: RE: How to connect to the internet through a proxy I believe make.conf has you answer, # If you're behind a firewall and need FTP or HTTP proxy services for # ports collection fetching to work, the following examples give the # necessary syntax. See the fetch(3) man page for details. # #FTP_PROXY= 10.0.0.1:21 #HTTP_PROXY= 10.0.0.1:80 # # David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 10:48:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f209.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DE337B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:48:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:48:09 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.39 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:48:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.39] From: "Charles Burns" To: vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET Cc: lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:48:08 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 17:48:09.0807 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5BB35F0:01C0C8F8] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > This depends on what you plan to do. The general consensus among the > > hardware reviewers is that the Athlon is overall faster than any other >x86 > > compatible CPU. > > Yep, that's what I read as well but are there any drawbacks to >being faster such as compatibilty and all that stuff? The last problem that AMD processors had that was in any way significant was when a few old K6 processors would become flaky with more than about 40MB of RAM. This was back when RAM was about $45/MB in the U.S. so most people never got that much anyway (and when they did they weren't using K6 chips) Oddly enough, as of late AMD's platform has been more reliable than Intel's. Intel released a chipset for the P3 that was designed exclusively for Rambus RAM. When Intel figured out that Rambus wasn't the greatest, they hurriedly implimented a "memory translator hub" that allowed the chipset to use SDRAM on top of the RAMBUS packet protocol. This obviously made the motherboard damn slow, but it also led to data corruption in certain cases which is a big nono. Intel recalled the chipset. They were in such a hurry to leapfrog AMD that they failed to properly test the chipset. This will long be a taint on Intel quality in the memory of many computer professionals. Intel also released a Pentium-3 at 1.13GHz. You may have noticed that you can't buy these--that is because Intel didn't seem to test them very much at all. Rather than learning from their mistakes, they rushed another product and had to recall it when almost none of them would even compile a Linux kernel. Their latest prize, the P4, has been the joke of the computer industry. "Why pay $1100 for a GHz Pentium three when you can pay $2500 for a lower performing 1.5GHz P4!?" In one article that I read, an Intel rep was quoted as saying "It's 1.5GHz. Of course it's faster." Ad nausium. Athlons have one current issue--heat. They are very stable at very high temperatures, but just in case, you should get a very good heatsink. Recently Anandtech (www.anandtech.com) tested several Socket-A heatsinks and crowned a king. I can't remember offhand what it was, though. With the 1.33GHz Athlon dissipating about 72.9 watts, you need some pretty decent cooling. This isn't to say that P3s and P4s aren't pretty toasty. > > > The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over >the > > Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the >Athlon. > > If you are going to be running applications that for some reason depend > > almost exclusively on the bandwidth of the L2 cache (software with lots >of > > loops that are under 192K may be an example of this) than in some >situations > > a P3 at 1GHz will likely be faster than an Athlon at 1GHz. > > Hmmm, I guess that part is one I can't figure out since for >FreeBSD, would this really count as a typical server? It does help, but the Athlon seems to be slightly faster at the same clockspeed for the majority of tasks (and is available in higher clockspeeds) > Yeah, that's what I am concerned about. It seems that most things >are optimized for the Intel CPU's. While the FPU is faster on the Athlon >than the Intel, what about the non-FPU area? Theoretically the Athlon is 50% faster at non-FPU (integer) calculations. In practice, it is 5-25% faster, depending on the application. Don't worry too much about optimizations. The Athlon is designed to run P3 optimized software. The only optimizations that don't benefit the Athlon involve SSE optimizations (which make the P3 about 2% faster than the Athlon, depending on the application, in FPU intensive stuff at the same clock speed) and fixes for some of the P3's bugs, which the Athlon doesn't have. (Not to say that the Athlon is bug free, but all have been fixed in microcode because there aren't any known serious design flaws) > Speaking about DDR RAM, what kind of performance hits would there >be using DDR versus non-DDR RAM? None. DDR RAM is faster. Well, ok technically DDR ram has a higher latency, but if you use a chipset that is designed around low latencies like the AMD 760 chipset, this becomes a non-issue. (In fact, latencies are often lower than those of normal RAM) DDR stands for Double Data Rate. It's bandwidth is theoretically twice that of normal RAM. In practice the actual system performance is 1-10% higher, but this may improve as applications start to take more advantage of higher bandwidth and as SMP Athlons come out. Tom's Hardware recommends using ONLY the AMD 760 chipset for DDR Athlons. Tom's Hardware is usually right, so I would take that into consideration. I have an AMD 750 (the old AMD chipset) on my system now and it has been rock-solid even when overclocking my 1st generation Athlon from 500 to 800MHz. Stability is, of course, the main factor when considering server hardware. Asus generally makes the most stable motherboards. > > The Athlon is much, much cheaper. Motherboards, however, are more >expensive. > > The overall cost ends up lower with the Athlon, especially if you are > > considering the price/perormance ratio. > > Yeah, that's what I realized as well. It seems like the VIA and >AMD chipset based motherboards costs a lot more than the Intel variants. The EV6 bus is more complex and thus more expensive to implement. (FYI) > > The P4 is a different story entirely... I would avoid it like an old >Cyrix > > CPU if I were you. > > Even if it weren't slower than the P3 or Athlon in most software, the >socket > > is soon to be changed so you will be left without the ability to upgrade > > much in the future. The chip is terribly expensive (as is the rest of >the > > platform), has a short life, is amazingly inefficient with its >transistors > > and memory bandwidth, and is overall certainly something to steer clear >from > > until Intel fixes some of its unacceptable weaknesses. > > Atleast from the guys at Anantech, they are all anti-Intel and one >of the reasons is as you stated about the P4's socket. I guess the >choices were easier during the Pentium days since you can just pop in a >AMD K6 in place of a Pentium without a total reinvestment. I often hear "Such-and-such a site is anti [AMD/Intel/Cyrix] because of such-and-such." Usually Tom's Hardware is accused more than Anandtech because they are mor apt to be harsh on something that doesn't live up to the hype, but Anandtech isn't immune. I have followed many hardware sites for years and have even written a few reviews. With the exception of sites like AMDzone and Intelzone, they are anti-stuff-that-is-unwise-to-buy, not anti [insert brand]. Really, why should anyone care what brand a chip is? If a given platform is a good deal, great. If not, avoid it. I don't care who makes my computer stuff as long as they have a good rep, a good product, and didn't BS too much in their marketing. Intel just dropped P4 prices. If the chip somehow gets the best price/performance ratio, I will have to consider it in the future. > Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those. I guess I just wanted to >know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it >under Windows. Ya... Isn't that irritating? I usually compile a Linux kernel with an optimized compiler and with the default compiler to test myself. Typically Windows software seems to perform similarly to similar Unix software, at least for me. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 10:53:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f46.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5BB37B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:53:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:53:17 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.39 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:53:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.39] From: "Charles Burns" To: bzdik@yahoo.com, tedm@toybox.placo.com, vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET, lplist@closedsrc.org Cc: jgowdy@home.com, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:53:16 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 17:53:17.0029 (UTC) FILETIME=[9CD99150:01C0C8F9] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >on top of that it has 1/4 of transistors P4 has. Prolly sold the rest >on the black market. Remember though that many of the transistors on modern 886 CPUs are used for translating the complex, variable-length, race-considition-prone, ancient x86 instructions into something that can be intelligently processed and then converted back. This is one of the disadvantages of x86 CPUs and probably a big reason why Intel is trying to replace the x86 architecture, which AMD is trying to drag out even longer. Not to say that Intel's new architecture doesn't suck, but it is sure better than x86. Let the poor old thing die! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11: 1:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx3out.umbc.edu (mx3out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1DD37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:01:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu) Received: from linux2.gl.umbc.edu (IDENT:gmiddl1@linux2.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.16]) by mx3out.umbc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04553 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:01:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: Subject: window managers which one? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am installing kde2 from the ports...(i just cvs'ed the ports) so it is installing 2.1.1..... whatever. I am running an amd 266 with 128 megs of ram. It has been installing for the past 2 hours!! Anyway can anyone make a good recommendation as to which window man i should use? GNOME KDE??? I am trying to get completely away from win2k/98. I use my machine for MP3's cd-burning, and just regualr run-of-the-mill crap...Word Processing Access...etc etc....and random admin crap. so the final question is which window manager would be the best for me? Regards, G. Jason Middleton _______________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11: 2: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.3tec.com (cr156986-a.wlfdle1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.176.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD3537B422; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:01:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mchang@3tec.com) Received: from localhost (mchang@localhost) by gateway.3tec.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3JI1vi44414; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:01:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mchang@3tec.com) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:01:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Chang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Allaire JRun Server and FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everyone, Has anyone ever successfully setup Allaire's JRun Server 3.0 on FreeBSD? My educated guess is that Linux emulation must be running for JRun Server to operate. I'd like to know if any special configuration is required other than Linux emulation. Thank you for your input. Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:16:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail200.swst.com (mail200.swst.com [199.34.16.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D1537B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:16:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from RClark@swst.com) Received: from assentor1.swst.com (assentor.swst.com [209.51.28.15]) by mail200.swst.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f3JIGZS25420 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:16:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sws_excg3.swst.com (unverified) by assentor1.swst.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:16:35 -0500 Received: by sws-excg3.swst.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2654.52) id <29D02522>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:15:58 -0500 Message-Id: From: Ronnie Clark To: "'G. Jason Middleton'" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: window managers which one? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:14:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2654.52) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG G.Jason Middleton, You are going to get a ton of opinions. So, let me offer mine. I played with KDE and gnome for a while, both kept locking up on my AMD k6-2 350 with 128 megs RAM. So I ventured over to WindowMaker. It is nothing like M$ Windows and runs great. And it is KDE compatible. (though I have not tested this fully yet, still plying with the tons of WindowMaker DockApps) So, me personally, try WindowMaker. you can see what it looks like at: http://www.windowmaker.org/screenshots.html & http://wm.themes.org/ Ronnie Clark A+, MCSE, CCSA, CCSE -----Original Message----- From: G. Jason Middleton [mailto:gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:01 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: window managers which one? I am installing kde2 from the ports...(i just cvs'ed the ports) so it is installing 2.1.1..... whatever. I am running an amd 266 with 128 megs of ram. It has been installing for the past 2 hours!! Anyway can anyone make a good recommendation as to which window man i should use? GNOME KDE??? I am trying to get completely away from win2k/98. I use my machine for MP3's cd-burning, and just regualr run-of-the-mill crap...Word Processing Access...etc etc....and random admin crap. so the final question is which window manager would be the best for me? Regards, G. Jason Middleton ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:16:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www3.pacific-pages.com (www3.pacific-pages.com [192.41.48.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A6C37B43F for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:16:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@www3.pacific-pages.com) Received: from d.tracker ([207.245.46.161]) by www3.pacific-pages.com (8.8.5) id MAA03593; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:16:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3JIC7C06423; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:12:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:11:06 -0400 From: David Banning To: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: None Message-ID: <20010419141106.C6159@www3.pacific-pages.com> Reply-To: David Banning References: <3.0.5.32.20010418133458.00797e90@sccoast.net> <20010419012704.A3065@www3.pacific-pages.com> <011d01c0c894$cfa0a2a0$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <011d01c0c894$cfa0a2a0$64c8a8c0@asknet.com>; from kulraj@bosa.ca on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:51:42PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You have me intrigued with the fax options, are you using hylafax? Yes, I am. > how complicated was that to setup. Normally it should install without problems. I spent alot of time setting it up, but in the end, the time spent was toward solving one problem which was easy to fix once I knew how. There is alot of support out there for hylafax, and lots of people who have similar experiences in the FBSD archives. My particular setup only involves one modem, both for ppp connection and faxing. My ppp connection is auto-connect, so I have cron check my POP mail every ten minutes - then I have setup my ppp to stay open for ten minutes after the last use (in ppp.conf) Before cron checks the mail, it first checks to see if Hylafax has a fax set to go out. If there's a fax set to go, it never issues the mail check of the POP account, the ppp line goes down, and the fax is sent. Ten minutes later, the ppp line is back up operating continuously. > > Thnx and rgds, > > Kulraj > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Banning" > To: "duane jones" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:27 PM > Subject: Re: None > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:34:58PM -0400, duane jones wrote: > > > What i am looking for is,a program that will allow me to provide my own > > > internet service from my home, without having to pay an ISP! can i do > this > > > with FreeBSD > > > Check out our home page at > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > I have a dialup line into my home. I have it go to my web page and update > > a link with my current IP address every 10 minutes. > > > > By people going to my web page and clicking the link they can obtain > access > > to the FreeBSD server in my home, which I use to enter my orders, and > then, in > > turn have FreeBSD fax out the order to my customers. > > > > It's a great little setup for someone learning, or a small business (like > me) > > > > If that's something you are looking for I could give you some direction. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- If God didn't mean for us to juggle, tennis balls wouldn't come three to a can. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:17:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A3C37B42C; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:17:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14qJ03-000INL-00; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:17:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:17:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: Mike Chang Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Allaire JRun Server and FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, how do you make any allair stuff run on FreeBSD? I want to run Cold Fusion web server myself! Thanks. On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Mike Chang wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Has anyone ever successfully setup Allaire's JRun Server 3.0 on FreeBSD? > My educated guess is that Linux emulation must be running for JRun Server > to operate. I'd like to know if any special configuration is required > other than Linux emulation. > > Thank you for your input. > > Mike > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:20:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe48.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242BD37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:20:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benjaminhyatt@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:20:28 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [139.87.90.77] Reply-To: "Ben Hyatt" From: "Ben Hyatt" To: "G. Jason Middleton" , References: Subject: Re: window managers which one? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:25:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 18:20:28.0016 (UTC) FILETIME=[68FE6F00:01C0C8FD] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I am installing kde2 from the ports...(i just cvs'ed the ports) so it is > installing 2.1.1..... whatever. I am running an amd 266 with 128 megs of > ram. It has been installing for the past 2 hours!! Anyway can anyone > make a good recommendation as to which window man i should use? GNOME > KDE??? I just installed gnome and enlightenment. Pretty happy with it so far.... Actually to be honest, anything's better than cde ;o) -Ben > I am trying to get completely away from win2k/98. I use my machine for > MP3's cd-burning, and just regualr run-of-the-mill crap...Word Processing > Access...etc etc....and random admin crap. > > so the final question is which window manager would be the best for me? > Regards, > > > G. Jason Middleton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:22:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cluck.stealthchickens.org (cluck.stealthchickens.org [209.192.217.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589E937B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:22:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mij@osdn.com) Received: from guinness.osdn.com (root@cluck.stealthchickens.org [209.192.217.153]) by cluck.stealthchickens.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3JIMVd40391; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:22:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mij@osdn.com) Received: by guinness.osdn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 11FFF9D; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:22:30 -0400 From: Jim Mock To: "G. Jason Middleton" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: window managers which one? Message-ID: <20010419142230.B3012@guinness.osdn.com> Reply-To: mij@osdn.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: ; from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:01:14PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 at 14:01:14 -0400, G. Jason Middleton wrote: > I am installing kde2 from the ports...(i just cvs'ed the ports) so it > is installing 2.1.1..... whatever. I am running an amd 266 with 128 > megs of ram. It has been installing for the past 2 hours!! Anyway > can anyone make a good recommendation as to which window man i should > use? GNOME KDE??? KDE2 takes *forever* to compile. It's huge. Give it some time to do it's thing. > I am trying to get completely away from win2k/98. I use my machine > for MP3's cd-burning, and just regualr run-of-the-mill crap...Word > Processing Access...etc etc....and random admin crap. You can do this stuff no matter which window manager you run. > so the final question is which window manager would be the best for > me? Regards, The one you decide is best for you. Play with different ones and make the choice yourself. After all, just because someone on the list likes something it doesn't mean you will. - jim -- - jim mock - O|S|D|N - open source development network - - http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:24: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f180.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A7837B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:24:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:24:02 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.140 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:23:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.140] From: "Charles Burns" To: jgowdy@home.com, vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET Cc: lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:23:56 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 18:24:02.0017 (UTC) FILETIME=[E88C6510:01C0C8FD] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over >the > > > Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the >Athlon. > >Could you explain this ? If you're comparing Thunderbirds to Coppermines, >I >didn't think that was the case. Yes, I was comparing Coppermines with Thunderbirds. This is one of the reasons that the P3e is often very close to as fast as the Athlon at the same speed. Quick chart: Athlon T-bird P3e L1 cache 128K 32k L2 cache 256K 256k Total usable cache* 384K 256K L2 cache clockspeed** CPU core clock CPU core clock L2 cache BUS WIDTH** 64-bit 256-bit L2 bandwidth @ 1GHz 8GB/sec 32GB/sec *The P3 keeps a copy of L1 cache in the L2 cache, reducing the effective usable cache memory. **The first P3's had a 64-bit L2 cache running at 1/2 core clockspeed. The first Athlons had a 64-bit L2 cache running from 1/2 to 2/5 core clockspeed, depending on the speed of the Athlon. These were the Athlon "classics" as opposed to the "Thunderbirds". Both the original P3 and the original Athlon had 512K of L2 cache (twice as much), but this was too expensive to impliment when the moved the cache to the CPU core itself, so they eliminated some of it. The P3 Xeons have up to 4 megs of L2 cache. >In business applications benchmarks the Athlon always stomps the P3. I have seen this myself on systems that I have tested (even with the slightly better Intel chipsets) >If I remember correctly, depending on the type the best SDRAM gets about >800 >megs/sec. DDR SDRAM comes in two flavors, 1.6 gigs/sec and 2.1gigs/sec. Yep, the bandwidth can be calculated with the simple equation: [(Bus width)*(memory clock speed)*(1 if regular RAM, 2 if DDR RAM)] / (8*1024*1024) = MB/sec Or something like that. There are other things to consider like CAS latency, CAS-to-RAS latency and other latencies which I can't remember at the moment and the chipset and stuff. DDR is, as you said, certainly much faster overall. Please let me know if I screwed anything up. ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:31:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx2out.umbc.edu (mx2out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B852537B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:31:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu) Received: from linux2.gl.umbc.edu (IDENT:gmiddl1@linux2.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.16]) by mx2out.umbc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00893; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:31:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:31:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: Jim Mock Cc: Subject: Re: window managers which one? In-Reply-To: <20010419142230.B3012@guinness.osdn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sounds good thanks for the info guys! Jason On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Jim Mock wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 at 14:01:14 -0400, G. Jason Middleton wrote: > > I am installing kde2 from the ports...(i just cvs'ed the ports) so it > > is installing 2.1.1..... whatever. I am running an amd 266 with 128 > > megs of ram. It has been installing for the past 2 hours!! Anyway > > can anyone make a good recommendation as to which window man i should > > use? GNOME KDE??? > > KDE2 takes *forever* to compile. It's huge. Give it some time to do > it's thing. > > > I am trying to get completely away from win2k/98. I use my machine > > for MP3's cd-burning, and just regualr run-of-the-mill crap...Word > > Processing Access...etc etc....and random admin crap. > > You can do this stuff no matter which window manager you run. > > > so the final question is which window manager would be the best for > > me? Regards, > > The one you decide is best for you. Play with different ones and make > the choice yourself. After all, just because someone on the list likes > something it doesn't mean you will. > > - jim > > -- > - jim mock - O|S|D|N - open source development network - > - http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - jim@FreeBSD.org - > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > G. Jason Middleton _______________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:33:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (CPE-61-9-138-203.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.138.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5171F37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:33:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3JIWo004905; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:32:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Message-Id: <200104191832.f3JIWo004905@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Sergeant" To: "Ben Hyatt" , "G. Jason Middleton" , Subject: Re: window managers which one? X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.3 On freebsd/mysql Date: 19 Apr 2001 13:32:48 EST Reply-To: "Mark Sergeant" In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've said it before and i'll say it again.... blackbox. -grin- one day i'll back this up with facts but for now its 4:30 am and i'm going to bed. My 2 cents worth is try them all and settle its not about what is right for others but what is right for you. Cheers, Mark On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:25:06 -0700, Ben Hyatt said: > > I am installing kde2 from the ports...(i just cvs'ed the ports) so it is > > installing 2.1.1..... whatever. I am running an amd 266 with 128 megs of > > ram. It has been installing for the past 2 hours!! Anyway can anyone > > make a good recommendation as to which window man i should use? GNOME > > KDE??? > > I just installed gnome and enlightenment. > Pretty happy with it so far.... > > Actually to be honest, anything's better than cde ;o) > > -Ben > > > I am trying to get completely away from win2k/98. I use my machine for > > MP3's cd-burning, and just regualr run-of-the-mill crap...Word Processing > > Access...etc etc....and random admin crap. > > > > so the final question is which window manager would be the best for me? > > Regards, > > > > > > G. Jason Middleton > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- God made the world in six days, and was arrested on the seventh. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:34:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f25.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4409C37B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:34:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:34:27 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.140 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:34:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.140] From: "Charles Burns" To: jgowdy@home.com, vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET Cc: lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:34:27 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 18:34:27.0463 (UTC) FILETIME=[5D57E170:01C0C8FF] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Note that the AMD and Intel chips aren't slower because of >incompetence. > > > They need to remain backwards-compatible with the 8086 instruction set >and > > > some of its methods of doing things. The 8086 processor sucks. It's > > > architecture and design suck. They were never meant for general >purpose > > > computing--more for operating dishwashers and the like. The fact that >they > > > have advanced so far is a testament to the ingenuity of humanity--and >to >the > > > stubbornness. > > > Blame IBM. ;-) > > > > Hehe... I thought the AMD/Intel were both CISC while the PowerPC > > is RISC created by IBM/Motorola/Apple. I guess until the 486, the x86 > > architecture was no match for workstations. > >All Intel and AMD x86 cpus today are RISC processors. They implement their >own hidden custom RISC architecture internally. The x86 CISC instructions >are translated into fixed length RISC instructions before they are >processed. I missed the post that this is a reply to somehow. You know, oddly enough the classic Pentium had less instructions than the Motorola PowerPC 604, so, in the classic sense of the term the Pentium was more RISC (REDUCED INSTRUCTION SET Chip) than the PPC. ;-) The whole RISC thing has kinda died down, really. In general, RISC takes more instructions to do the same thing but can do more instructions per clock than CISC (Complex Instruction Set Chip--a term coined to differentiate from RISC). It ends up pretty much evening out. There are better things that chip designers can do to improve speed, for example, the Alpha can kick the crap out of any Motorola "RISC" chip. You are quite right though, modern x86 CPUs translate everything to RISC micro-ops befor processing them. This takes far more transistors than just processing native RISC cod though, which is one reason why the G4 has so few transistors compared to the P4/Athlon. Theoretically pure RISC chips are cheaper and can run at higher clockspeeds, but there are so many other factors effecting these things that the results haven't really solidified. Perhaps we should all just dump our systems and go buy some 21364's (when they arrive) and get a super optimizing compiler for those. Seti@home would fly. :-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:34:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.prokk.net (smtp.prokk.net [194.42.198.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D8637B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:34:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@prokk.net) Received: from user1.prokk.net (user1.prokk.net [194.42.198.101]) by smtp.prokk.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3JIYcV60029 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:34:40 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:35:23 +0300 From: green X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49e) Reply-To: green Organization: home X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10511221385.20010419213523@prokk.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ftpd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi freebsd-questions ! i'am trying to compile new ftpd ( without glob bug).. libc compilation and instalation succesfull.. but then i go to /usr/src/libexeec/ftpd and type make all i get this message: Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/libexec/ftpd make: don't know how to make ls.c. Stop what i have to do ? -------------- green@prokk.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:41:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pickup3-ld.pvd.loa.net (pickup.loa.com [199.171.167.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7CA137B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:41:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brentb@loa.com) Received: (qmail 19583 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 2001 18:34:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kronos) ([208.130.43.221]) (envelope-sender ) by pickup3-ld.pvd.loa.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <>; 19 Apr 2001 18:34:06 -0000 Message-ID: <002301c0c8ff$622ff660$3ab4a8c0@kronos> From: "Brent" To: Subject: trying to install PPTPGRE help ?? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:34:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Im useing FreeBSD 4.1 as a duel home host w/ NAT for a 70 client machines...im trying to install PPTPGRE Point to Point Tunneling Protocal GRE so can tunnel between the NAT BSD box and another remote network.. heres what i did .. I compiled options PPTPGRE into my kernel ... are there other "options" im suppose to add as well?? pLEASE HELP ?? thanx in advance Brent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:42:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pickup3-ld.pvd.loa.net (pickup.loa.com [199.171.167.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C75C37B43E for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brentb@loa.com) Received: (qmail 21624 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 2001 18:41:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Misterb) ([208.130.43.208]) (envelope-sender ) by pickup3-ld.pvd.loa.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <>; 19 Apr 2001 18:41:21 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c0c900$3e8f8530$d02b82d0@Misterb> From: "brentb" To: Subject: compiling PPTPGRE help ?? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:40:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C8DE.B7084000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C8DE.B7084000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im trying to setup a freeBSD 4.1 NAT box to use PPTPGRE to tunnel = between my 2 networks... i added=20 "options PPTPGRE " to my kernel config file....but it failed in the middle of "make" below = is the error mesage ... is there anything that i missed ..like another option ?? or something.. = any help is appreciated TIA Brent Bailey ng_pptpgre.o: In function `ng_pptpgre_constructor': ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xc): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x40): undefined reference to `ng_make_node_common' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x69): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o: In function `ng_pptpgre_rcvmsg': ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x173): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x1ed): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x299): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x2a7): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x2e9): more undefined references to `M_NETGRAPH' = follow ng_pptpgre.o: In function `ng_pptpgre_rmnode': ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x34b): undefined reference to `ng_cutlinks' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x351): undefined reference to `ng_unname' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x363): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x376): undefined reference to `ng_unref' ng_pptpgre.o: In function `ng_pptpgre_disconnect': ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x3c4): undefined reference to `ng_rmnode' ng_pptpgre.o: In function `ng_pptpgre_xmit': ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x42b): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x46f): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x70b): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x750): undefined reference to `ng_send_data' ng_pptpgre.o: In function `ng_pptpgre_recv': ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x7af): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x7ea): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x82a): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x899): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xae6): undefined reference to `ng_send_data' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xb0b): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o: In function `ng_pptpgre_start_recv_ack_timer': ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xb61): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o: In function `ng_pptpgre_recv_ack_timeout': ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xbcd): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xbe2): undefined reference to `ng_unref' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xbea): undefined reference to `ng_unref' ng_pptpgre.o: In function `ng_pptpgre_start_send_ack_timer': ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xc81): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o: In function `ng_pptpgre_send_ack_timeout': ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xcef): undefined reference to `M_NETGRAPH' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xd04): undefined reference to `ng_unref' ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xd0e): undefined reference to `ng_unref' ng_pptpgre.o(.data+0x44): undefined reference to `ng_mod_event' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x4): undefined reference to `ng_parse_int8_type' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x10): undefined reference to `ng_parse_int8_type' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x1c): undefined reference to `ng_parse_int16_type' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x28): undefined reference to `ng_parse_int16_type' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x34): undefined reference to `ng_parse_int16_type' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x40): undefined reference to `ng_parse_int16_type' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x8c): undefined reference to = `ng_parse_struct_type' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0xac): undefined reference to `ng_parse_int32_type' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0xb8): undefined reference to `ng_parse_int32_type' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0xc4): undefined reference to `ng_parse_int32_type' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0xd0): undefined reference to `ng_parse_int32_type' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0xdc): undefined reference to `ng_parse_int32_type' ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0xe8): more undefined references to = `ng_parse_int32_type' follow ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x220): undefined reference to = `ng_parse_struct_type' *** Error code 1 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C8DE.B7084000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Im trying to setup a freeBSD 4.1 = NAT box to=20 use PPTPGRE to tunnel between my 2 networks...
i added
"options  PPTPGRE "
 
to my kernel config file....but it = failed in the=20 middle of "make" below is the error mesage ...
is there anything that i missed ..like = another=20 option ?? or something.. any help is appreciated
TIA
Brent Bailey
 
ng_pptpgre.o: In function=20 `ng_pptpgre_constructor':
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xc): undefined = reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x40): undefined reference to=20 `ng_make_node_common'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x69): undefined reference = to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o: In function=20 `ng_pptpgre_rcvmsg':
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x173): undefined reference = to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x1ed): undefined reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x299): undefined reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x2a7): undefined reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x2e9): more undefined references to=20 `M_NETGRAPH' follow
ng_pptpgre.o: In function=20 `ng_pptpgre_rmnode':
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x34b): undefined reference = to=20 `ng_cutlinks'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x351): undefined reference to=20 `ng_unname'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x363): undefined reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x376): undefined reference to=20 `ng_unref'
ng_pptpgre.o: In function=20 `ng_pptpgre_disconnect':
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x3c4): undefined = reference to=20 `ng_rmnode'
ng_pptpgre.o: In function=20 `ng_pptpgre_xmit':
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x42b): undefined reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x46f): undefined reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x70b): undefined reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x750): undefined reference to=20 `ng_send_data'
ng_pptpgre.o: In function=20 `ng_pptpgre_recv':
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x7af): undefined reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x7ea): undefined reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x82a): undefined reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0x899): undefined reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xae6): undefined reference to=20 `ng_send_data'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xb0b): undefined reference to=20 `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o: In function=20 `ng_pptpgre_start_recv_ack_timer':
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xb61): = undefined=20 reference to `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o: In function=20 `ng_pptpgre_recv_ack_timeout':
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xbcd): undefined = reference=20 to `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xbe2): undefined reference to=20 `ng_unref'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xbea): undefined reference to=20 `ng_unref'
ng_pptpgre.o: In function=20 `ng_pptpgre_start_send_ack_timer':
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xc81): = undefined=20 reference to `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o: In function=20 `ng_pptpgre_send_ack_timeout':
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xcef): undefined = reference=20 to `M_NETGRAPH'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xd04): undefined reference to=20 `ng_unref'
ng_pptpgre.o(.text+0xd0e): undefined reference to=20 `ng_unref'
ng_pptpgre.o(.data+0x44): undefined reference to=20 `ng_mod_event'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x4): undefined reference to=20 `ng_parse_int8_type'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x10): undefined reference = to=20 `ng_parse_int8_type'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x1c): undefined reference = to=20 `ng_parse_int16_type'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x28): undefined reference = to=20 `ng_parse_int16_type'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x34): undefined reference = to=20 `ng_parse_int16_type'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x40): undefined reference = to=20 `ng_parse_int16_type'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x8c): undefined reference = to=20 `ng_parse_struct_type'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0xac): undefined = reference to=20 `ng_parse_int32_type'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0xb8): undefined reference = to=20 `ng_parse_int32_type'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0xc4): undefined reference = to=20 `ng_parse_int32_type'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0xd0): undefined reference = to=20 `ng_parse_int32_type'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0xdc): undefined reference = to=20 `ng_parse_int32_type'
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0xe8): more undefined = references=20 to `ng_parse_int32_type' follow
ng_pptpgre.o(.rodata+0x220): = undefined=20 reference to `ng_parse_struct_type'
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C8DE.B7084000-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:49:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dualcpus.com (dualcpus.com [65.160.20.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92D3837B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:49:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgowdy@home.com) Received: (qmail 36330 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 18:49:44 -0000 Received: from sherline.cts.com (HELO server2) (204.216.163.132) by dualcpus.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 18:49:44 -0000 Message-ID: <003201c0c901$7fa93600$015778d8@sherline.net> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Charles Burns" , Cc: , , , , References: Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:49:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > There are other things to consider like CAS latency, CAS-to-RAS latency and > other latencies which I can't remember at the moment and the chipset and > stuff. DDR is, as you said, certainly much faster overall. I have recently learned the blessings of lower CAS latency. I have two 128meg Mushkin rev3s. They are 2-2-2 @150mhz. Even though my Athlon K75 (.18 micron with cache still off-die) 1ghz will only run the memory at 133mhz, it's still nice to know I can have CAS2 at 150mhz :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 11:57:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web11103.mail.yahoo.com (web11103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A52CD37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:57:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from metalorion_1@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010419185734.64142.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.49.79.59] by web11103.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:57:34 PDT Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:57:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Zach Thompson Reply-To: cublai@earthlink.net Subject: Re: window managers which one? To: "G. Jason Middleton" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- "G. Jason Middleton" wrote: > I am installing kde2 from the ports...(i just cvs'ed the ports) so it > is > installing 2.1.1..... whatever. I am running an amd 266 with 128 > megs of > ram. It has been installing for the past 2 hours!! Anyway can > anyone > make a good recommendation as to which window man i should use? > GNOME > KDE??? Why just these two? Check out http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ for descriptions, screen shots, etc., of many WMs, if you already haven't. With 128MB RAM these wouldn't be my first choices. > I am trying to get completely away from win2k/98. I use my machine > for > MP3's cd-burning, and just regualr run-of-the-mill crap...Word > Processing > Access...etc etc....and random admin crap. > > so the final question is which window manager would be the best for > me? This is too personal for anyone but yourself to decide. I have tried tried everything from KDE to ratpoison in the last few months. I would have to say that blackbox and icewm have been my two favorites. Zach Thompson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 12: 5:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F55837B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:05:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA49374 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:05:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:05:02 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: top & SMPng Message-ID: <20010419150502.A49345@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I just picked up a dual PIII-1Ghz system, and loaded FreeBSD-current on it. I build a SMP kernel. Oddly, whenever I do anything resource-intensive "i.e., make world", a top -S shows both CPUs about 50% idle. Is top wrong, or is there something else I should look at? Thanks, Michael -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 12: 9:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from reuben.meganet.net (reuben.meganet.net [209.213.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BD937B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:09:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from estair@computer-exchange.com) Received: from proxy (dial-tnt01-p2-158.bos.ma.meganet.net [209.213.73.158]) by reuben.meganet.net (8.9.3/8.9.1-BW0200.01SP) with SMTP id PAA02107 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:09:44 -0400 From: estair@computer-exchange.com Message-ID: <000901c0c904$77985ce0$4900a8c0@mshome.net> To: Subject: 'hdparm' equivalent for FreeBSD? Need to spin-down disks. Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:10:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all. I'm looking for a solution to this situation. I have a FBSD box with several KDE HD's that is only intermittently accessed over the network. I'd very much like to have the system sync and spin down the disks after a timeout period, and have them resume only when accessed. In Linux this is set by the 'hdparm' utility, however I've found no such equivalent in FreeBSD by searching the Handbook, Complete FreeBSD or web archives, or ports collection. ACPI/APM support possibly? Any recommendations welcome :) /eli To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 12:18: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay2.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B3837B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from genocide@adelphia.net) Received: from david ([24.48.163.193]) by smtprelay2.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GC209Z01.0NP for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:17:59 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Eric Smith Reply-To: genocide@adelphia.net To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Install problem Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:22:20 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041915222000.02463@david> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I try and boot from the boot floppy, I get a strange error about not being able to find /kernel, and some other stuff. The machine is an IBM Server 95, so it's an MCA box. I'd think it might have something to do with the proprietary drive controller/floppy drive, because I can run it on other computers just fine. Have you run into this before? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 12:32:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.pandora.be (tartarus.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39A2237B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:32:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from voutah@detroit.org) Received: (qmail 22584 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 19:32:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BRAZIL) ([213.224.80.41]) (envelope-sender ) by tartarus.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Apr 2001 19:32:31 -0000 From: "Voutah" To: "Freebsd-Questions" Subject: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:30:07 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using a 4.2-freebsd release as a firewall and packet forwarding router. There's no screen or keyboard attached to the computer, everything is done through SSH. Sometimes when i try to login using SSH he waits for about 1 minute after entering my username and password before displaying the MOTD and the bash prompt. While a telnet login is very fast. I'm using Putty as my SSH client on a win2k server and a win2k professional machine, no differe between pro and server. Voutah, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 12:41:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.sasknow.net (stimpy.sasknow.net [207.195.92.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D08837B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:41:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by home.sasknow.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3JDfT006847; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:41:29 GMT (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) X-Authentication-Warning: home.sasknow.net: ryan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:41:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Ryan Thompson X-X-Sender: To: Voutah Cc: Freebsd-Questions Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010419133818.P6772-100000@home.sasknow.net> Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Voutah wrote to Freebsd-Questions: > I'm using a 4.2-freebsd release as a firewall and packet forwarding > router. There's no screen or keyboard attached to the computer, > everything is done through SSH. Sometimes when i try to login using > SSH he waits for about 1 minute after entering my username and > password before displaying the MOTD and the bash prompt. While a > telnet login is very fast. > > I'm using Putty as my SSH client on a win2k server and a win2k > professional machine, no differe between pro and server. I wouldn't be at all suprised if you're experiencing DNS problems. Check the IP of the machine you're connecting from. Does its reverse resolve on the firewall machine? SSH checks that--you may be feeling the hit of a DNS timeout. > Voutah, > - Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 12:43: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68F2037B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:43:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 61421 invoked by uid 100); 19 Apr 2001 19:43:03 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15071.16327.422052.713154@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:43:03 -0500 To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: OT: Cooling CPUs (Was: the AMD factor in FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: <2344084@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeremiah Gowdy types: > > G4 stil runs without heatsink - doesn't qualify as a real CPU to me. > > end :)) > Hell, seems like a 'realer' CPU to me ! Heatsinks are when we ran out of > ideas for making a nice core/pipeline design, so we had to increase speed by > ramping up the clock to insane speeds. Cooling has always been a serious problem for high-end CPUs. Cray was a better cooling system than CPU designer. When his cooling systems failed, the solder in the box melted. I'm pretty sure he was also the first person to build a liquid-cooled CPU - and he did it in commercial quantities. Watching the coolant drain from a 2 is a rather cool experience. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 12:46:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAFF37B43F for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:46:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E77D955407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B7851610; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:40:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Mike Meyer Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy , Subject: Re: OT: Cooling CPUs (Was: the AMD factor in FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: <15071.16327.422052.713154@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-19, Mike Meyer scribbled: # Cooling has always been a serious problem for high-end CPUs. Cray was # a better cooling system than CPU designer. When his cooling systems # failed, the solder in the box melted. I'm pretty sure he was also the # first person to build a liquid-cooled CPU - and he did it in # commercial quantities. Cray in the last several years have always used third-party processors and sub-components (like MIPS and Alpha processors). -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 12:47:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rm-rstar.sfu.ca (rm-rstar.sfu.ca [142.58.120.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0082337B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (tmchow@fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by rm-rstar.sfu.ca (8.10.1/8.10.1/SFU-5.0H) with ESMTP id f3JJlNl11561; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFU-5.0C) with ESMTP id MAA27483; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:47:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fraser.sfu.ca: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:47:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow To: Rasputin Cc: Subject: Re: How to people easily update ports with dependencies (such as galeon)? In-Reply-To: <20010419101202.A24896@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Rasputin wrote: > * Trevin Chow [010418 20:20]: > > Does this maintain dependencies of all the ports? For example, if > > foobar-3.0 depends on barfoo-4.0 and we upgrade barfoo-4.0 to 5.0, > > is the dependency from foobar-3.0 updated to depend on barfoo-5.0? > > Not really no, and I wouldn't recommned running theresulting script directly. > Putting the new glib over the old one won't break anything. > You can pkg_delete -f glib.... > and them put a new one back in , but that could be risky > if the libraries have changed significantly. What about someone's suggestion to manually change the +REQUIRED and +CONTENTS of the appropriate packages to reflect the new port? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 12:53: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F223F37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 61789 invoked by uid 100); 19 Apr 2001 19:52:57 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15071.16921.416976.649344@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:52:57 -0500 To: green Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: attemp to connect In-Reply-To: <100714139@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG green types: > hi > > i would like, what my freebsd machine would log any connection > attempts on any port.. > > can i do this with standart freebsd programs, or i need something > other for this feature ? It's a standard part of FreeBSD. You need to do three things to set it up: 1) load the ipfw module: kldload ipfw 2) Use sysctl to set the ipfw verbosity: sysctl -w net.inet.ip.fw.verbose=1 net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit=0 3) Turn on logging with ipfw: ipfw add allow log ip from any to any That allows the connection attempts and logs them. If you don't want them to work, replcae "allow" with "deny". Read the ipfw manual page for detailed information on the sysctl's and ipfw. Be warned that this exactly what you asked for, so connection attempts to localhost will be logged, and possibly denied. You may not want that. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 12:54:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from listproc.corp.loudcloud.com (olly.loudcloud.com [208.50.142.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E5D37B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:54:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seanp@loudcloud.com) Received: from loudcloud.com (grover.geek.loudcloud.com [192.168.0.253]) by listproc.corp.loudcloud.com (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3JJrc212278; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3ADF44B4.547DE65D@loudcloud.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:04:04 -0700 From: Sean Peck X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremiah Gowdy Cc: Vincent Poy , Charles Burns , lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD References: <001b01c0c8e3$a65f78e0$015778d8@sherline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been running AMD processors with both FreeBSD and BSDi for quite some time now, and ATHLON is by far the better choice than the PIII or the P4. The only real issue with AMD is heat related they put out a lot of heat.. but that's about the only "concern" and I have never had this be a problem. I would highly recommend purchasing AMD over any Intel offering in equivalent cost. You will get far more bang for your buck with Athlon/Duron over anything that Intel has in the price range, period. Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > > > > Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? > > > > > > This depends on what you plan to do. The general consensus among the > > > hardware reviewers is that the Athlon is overall faster than any other > x86 > > > compatible CPU. > > > > Yep, that's what I read as well but are there any drawbacks to > > being faster such as compatibilty and all that stuff? > > > > The compatibility and all that stuff days of the K5 and K6 are long gone. > Today, generally, if a cpu is x86 compatible, that's that. There are no > compatibility issues with the Athlon. > > > > The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over > the > > > Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the > Athlon. > > Could you explain this ? If you're comparing Thunderbirds to Coppermines, I > didn't think that was the case. > > > > The Athlon has a superior floating point unit that is, in addition, more > > > deeply pipelined. When using software that isn't optimized for any > > > particular FPU, the Athlon is typically just under 30% faster. (Some > > > examples of this can be seen on comparisons between the two at > Anandtech) > > > > Yeah, that's what I am concerned about. It seems that most things > > are optimized for the Intel CPU's. While the FPU is faster on the Athlon > > than the Intel, what about the non-FPU area? > > In business applications benchmarks the Athlon always stomps the P3. > > > > The Athlon can take more advantage of higher memory bandwidth than the > P3 > > > (but probably not the P4), thus you can get a greater performance > benefit in > > > some cases using DDR RAM. > > > > Speaking about DDR RAM, what kind of performance hits would there > > be using DDR versus non-DDR RAM? > > If I remember correctly, depending on the type the best SDRAM gets about 800 > megs/sec. DDR SDRAM comes in two flavors, 1.6 gigs/sec and 2.1gigs/sec. > > > > The Athlon is much, much cheaper. Motherboards, however, are more > expensive. > > > The overall cost ends up lower with the Athlon, especially if you are > > > considering the price/perormance ratio. > > > > Yeah, that's what I realized as well. It seems like the VIA and > > AMD chipset based motherboards costs a lot more than the Intel variants. > > You can get an Athlon motherboard for $100. Even if the Intel motherboard > was half that, at $50, the difference in the prices of the cpus is FAR more > than $50. Up to $200 in the higher end processors. People always speak of > the higher cost of Athlon motherboards but I don't see the point if the AMD > cpu is 40% cheaper and the difference in motherboard prices is relatively > pennies when you're speaking of a multi-hundred dollar purchase. > > > Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those. I guess I just wanted to > > know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it > > under Windows. > > It's the same. If the code is written and compiled properly, the difference > should be seen in all OSes. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Garbage Collection... the bell bottoms of programming.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 12:56:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.targetnet.com (smtp.targetnet.com [205.150.0.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B6F37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:56:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tstrike@targetnet.com) Received: from gw-101.tor1.targetnet.com ([149.99.36.66] helo=wrk150) by smtp.targetnet.com with smtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14qKXA-0003Wf-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:56:08 -0400 From: "Tim Strike" To: Subject: 4.3-RC1 && omniORB && longjmp()'ing problems Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:56:08 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Recently installed 4.3-RC1 and have run into some problems with CORBA Servers built with OmniORB 3.0.3 -- these servers start-up okay, but when a client calls the emit Fatal error 'longjmp()ing between thread contexts is undefined by POSIX 1003.1' at line ? in file /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_jmp.c (errno = ?) and die. This wasn't the case with 4.2 from ~ Janurary. I'm not sure if this is a kernel problem, a gcc problem (2.95.3 vs 2.95.2), an omniorb problem, or quite frankly, one of our developers problems. Has anyone else experienced any difficulties / have any insight before I start an error reporting process? -- Tim Strike (tstrike@targetnet.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13: 4:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.sasknow.net (stimpy.sasknow.net [207.195.92.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD4A37B621 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:04:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by home.sasknow.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3JE4ke06947; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:04:50 GMT (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) X-Authentication-Warning: home.sasknow.net: ryan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:04:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Ryan Thompson X-X-Sender: To: dennis williamson Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.2.6 problems w/getty reading ports on /dev/ttyv* In-Reply-To: <3ADE3FA5.9F96CA34@iprg.nokia.com> Message-ID: <20010419135459.N6772-100000@home.sasknow.net> Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dennis williamson wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > I was getting console messages that indicated getty not seeing > /dev/ttyv[45678]. > Those devices didn't exist, so I created them on FreeBSD 2.2.6 with the > following command: > > cd /dev > mknod ttyv4 c 12 4 > ... > upto #8. Now I get the following messages: That's correct, but why not use MAKEDEV? cd /dev && sh MAKEDEV vty12 It will run mknod for you, and set the permissions appropriately. > Apr 18 18:27:42 ntc2 getty[502]: tcsetattr /dev/ttyv4: Inappropriate > ioctl for device This is probably due to a lenient umask when you ran mknod. What are the permissions on /dev/ttyv4? chmod 0600 all of your new vtys and try again. (MAKEDEV does this automatically). I don't know what your current setup is, or how feasable it might be for you, but if possible, you would definitely want to give thought to upgrading. 2.2.6 is far from active maintenance right now, so security holes, bugfixes, etc, will probably never be corrected. > Apr 18 18:27:43 ntc2 getty[506]: tcsetattr /dev/ttyv5: Inappropriate > > Not sure what to do. Please advise. Thanks in advance. > > dennisw > > - Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13: 7:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92B2037B43F for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:07:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 62511 invoked by uid 100); 19 Apr 2001 20:07:38 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15071.17802.833262.635161@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:07:38 -0500 To: Linh Pham Cc: Mike Meyer , Jeremiah Gowdy , Subject: Re: OT: Cooling CPUs (Was: the AMD factor in FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: References: <15071.16327.422052.713154@guru.mired.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Linh Pham types: > On 2001-04-19, Mike Meyer scribbled: > # Cooling has always been a serious problem for high-end CPUs. Cray was > # a better cooling system than CPU designer. When his cooling systems > # failed, the solder in the box melted. I'm pretty sure he was also the > # first person to build a liquid-cooled CPU - and he did it in > # commercial quantities. > Cray in the last several years have always used third-party processors > and sub-components (like MIPS and Alpha processors). My bad - I almost said "Seymour Cray", and should have, as I was talking about the person, not the company. The company merged with (or was bought by) SGI in 1996. SGI also bought MIPS, which might explain the companies predilictions for SGI processors since. Seymour Cray didn't do much with the MP machines. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:12:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FAB37B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:12:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 0F73D55407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CFC51610; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:06:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Mike Meyer Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy , Subject: Re: OT: Cooling CPUs (Was: the AMD factor in FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: <15071.17802.833262.635161@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-19, Mike Meyer scribbled: # My bad - I almost said "Seymour Cray", and should have, as I was # talking about the person, not the company. The company merged with (or # was bought by) SGI in 1996. SGI also bought MIPS, which might explain # the companies predilictions for SGI processors since. Seymour Cray # didn't do much with the MP machines. It's all right :) Didn't SGI sell Cray to Terra like 6-12 months as well since it wasn't profitable enough for the already bleeding SGI? I wonder what kind of cooling system Tandem (now bought out by Compaq... foo) uses :) # # http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ # Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. # -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:28:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BEC537B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:28:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3JKSnO32279 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:28:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3JKSmo32257; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:28:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3JKSP618045; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:28:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:28:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: Trevin Chow Cc: Rasputin , Subject: Re: How to people easily update ports with dependencies (such as galeon)? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Trevin Chow wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Rasputin wrote: > > > * Trevin Chow [010418 20:20]: > > > Does this maintain dependencies of all the ports? For example, if > > > foobar-3.0 depends on barfoo-4.0 and we upgrade barfoo-4.0 to 5.0, > > > is the dependency from foobar-3.0 updated to depend on barfoo-5.0? > > > > Not really no, and I wouldn't recommned running theresulting script directly. > > Putting the new glib over the old one won't break anything. > > You can pkg_delete -f glib.... > > and them put a new one back in , but that could be risky > > if the libraries have changed significantly. > > > What about someone's suggestion to manually change the +REQUIRED and > +CONTENTS of the appropriate packages to reflect the new port? > > use portupgrade in the ports; it will fix dependencies. Leif > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:34:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A73F37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:34:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3JKXRt01301 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:33:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:33:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: Subject: Virtual POP3s with sendmail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone aware of a FAQ that tells how to do virtual POP3s with sendmail? Chris Byrnes, chris@JEAH.net JEAH Communications, http://www.JEAH.net 608.244.9525 (Toll), 1.866.AWW.JEAH (Toll-Free) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:34:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pickup2-ld.pvd.loa.net (pickup.loa.com [199.171.167.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3340337B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brentb@loa.com) Received: (qmail 15668 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 2001 20:34:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kronos) ([208.130.43.221]) (envelope-sender ) by pickup2-ld.pvd.loa.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <>; 19 Apr 2001 20:34:29 -0000 Message-ID: <005f01c0c910$28520ee0$3ab4a8c0@kronos> From: "Brent" To: Subject: gre-tunneling help Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:34:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Im using a 4.1 FreeBSD box w/ NAT ..i need to gre-tunneling to work .the howto im reading says there has to be at least 1 "tun" interface in the down state....when i do a "ifconfig -a " tun isnt in there ...how do i get the tun interface to be in "ifconfig" ? ..when i look in /dev tun0 tun1 tun2 all are in there... so i dont think i have to do ./MAKEDEV.. how do i get it to show w/ ifconfig ?? did i miss something ?? TIA ........any help is really appreciated Brent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:35:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057AE37B64C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:35:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA39569; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:34:18 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:34:17 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Linh Pham Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt , Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-19, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: > > # It's not a real CPU unless it has fittings for the ethelyne > # glycol coolant tubes. :-) > > So a processor that has a 100W peltier attached to it, with a large > copper 'water' block attached to it... with a powerful 25G/m pump, > pumping through some type of coolant liquid wouldn't fit your category > as a real CPU? :) Hehe, that's funny... I thought Ted meant we needed Liquid Nitrogen or Dry Ice or something ;) Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:36:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rybvod.kamchatka.su (rybvod.kamchatka.su [195.161.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C7837B43E for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:36:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dvs@rybvod.kamchatka.su) Received: from ira (dvsh.dialup.rybvod.kam [192.168.200.25]) by rybvod.kamchatka.su (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f3I7YHb02577 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:34:17 +1300 (PSS) Message-ID: <003401c0c7e0$9f4561e0$19c8a8c0@ira> From: "÷ÌÁÄÉÍÉÒ äÏÂÒÏÈÏÔÏ×" To: Subject: invisible cursor on console (cons25) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:21:51 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How to do it? In 'man 4 screen' I found only blinking/steady cursor, but I need made cursor invisible. I need rewrite kernel??? Thank you, Vladimir To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:36:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4741937B616 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:36:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA39628; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:35:49 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:35:48 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Linh Pham Cc: Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-19, Bzdik BSD scribbled: > > # G4 stil runs without heatsink - doesn't qualify as a real CPU to me. > # end :)) > > A G3 can run without a heatsink, but the G4 does require a heatsink (it > requires quite a bit more power compared to the G3, thus needs to > dissipate a lot more power than the G3)... but can run without an active > fan. > > Of course, have you touched a G3 without a heatsink? :) Hehe... Which reminds me, it's almost like IBM delivers their crAptiva with Pentium 233MMX with just a heatsink but no fan and I doubt you want your finger on the Pentium 233MMX. Ofcourse, the AMD Athlon's run a lot hotter than the coppermines so does this mean the Intel's are not real CPU's? ;) Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:36:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rybvod.kamchatka.su (rybvod.kamchatka.su [195.161.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C453B37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:36:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dvs@rybvod.kamchatka.su) Received: from ira (dvsh.dialup.rybvod.kam [192.168.200.25]) by rybvod.kamchatka.su (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f3I7Thb02496 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:29:44 +1300 (PSS) Message-ID: <002e01c0c7df$fc991860$19c8a8c0@ira> From: "÷ÌÁÄÉÍÉÒ äÏÂÒÏÈÏÔÏ×" To: Subject: terminal with non-standart keyboard Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:17:18 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I need to use terminals (on multiport card) with keyboard that issue scan-codes (not ascii). Is it possible, or/and what I need to do it? Thank you, Vladimir To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:41:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34B137B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA39751; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:40:30 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:40:29 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Jeremiah Gowdy Cc: Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <001b01c0c8e3$a65f78e0$015778d8@sherline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > > > > Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? > > > > > > This depends on what you plan to do. The general consensus among the > > > hardware reviewers is that the Athlon is overall faster than any other > x86 > > > compatible CPU. > > > > Yep, that's what I read as well but are there any drawbacks to > > being faster such as compatibilty and all that stuff? > > The compatibility and all that stuff days of the K5 and K6 are long gone. > Today, generally, if a cpu is x86 compatible, that's that. There are no > compatibility issues with the Athlon. That's good to hear but isn't there the issue of whether the software is optimized for the Intel CPU or the AMD CPU? I thought that factor still exists. > > > The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over > the > > > Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the > Athlon. > > Could you explain this ? If you're comparing Thunderbirds to Coppermines, I > didn't think that was the case. > > > > The Athlon has a superior floating point unit that is, in addition, more > > > deeply pipelined. When using software that isn't optimized for any > > > particular FPU, the Athlon is typically just under 30% faster. (Some > > > examples of this can be seen on comparisons between the two at > Anandtech) > > > > Yeah, that's what I am concerned about. It seems that most things > > are optimized for the Intel CPU's. While the FPU is faster on the Athlon > > than the Intel, what about the non-FPU area? > > In business applications benchmarks the Athlon always stomps the P3. True but isn't business applications more of what's run on the Microsoft platform and not really the FreeBSD platform? > > > The Athlon can take more advantage of higher memory bandwidth than the > P3 > > > (but probably not the P4), thus you can get a greater performance > benefit in > > > some cases using DDR RAM. > > > > Speaking about DDR RAM, what kind of performance hits would there > > be using DDR versus non-DDR RAM? > > If I remember correctly, depending on the type the best SDRAM gets about 800 > megs/sec. DDR SDRAM comes in two flavors, 1.6 gigs/sec and 2.1gigs/sec. Interesting but what about percentage wise? > > > The Athlon is much, much cheaper. Motherboards, however, are more > expensive. > > > The overall cost ends up lower with the Athlon, especially if you are > > > considering the price/perormance ratio. > > > > Yeah, that's what I realized as well. It seems like the VIA and > > AMD chipset based motherboards costs a lot more than the Intel variants. > > You can get an Athlon motherboard for $100. Even if the Intel motherboard > was half that, at $50, the difference in the prices of the cpus is FAR more > than $50. Up to $200 in the higher end processors. People always speak of > the higher cost of Athlon motherboards but I don't see the point if the AMD > cpu is 40% cheaper and the difference in motherboard prices is relatively > pennies when you're speaking of a multi-hundred dollar purchase. Yeah but the Athlon motherboards at $100 are probably crappy. I'll give a example. the ABIT BE6II v2.0 which is Intel 440BX based and the ABIT KT7A-RAID which is VIA based. > > Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those. I guess I just wanted to > > know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it > > under Windows. > > It's the same. If the code is written and compiled properly, the difference > should be seen in all OSes. True but isn't most code still optimized for Intel CPU's though? Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:42:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D3E37B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:42:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA39788; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:41:50 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:41:49 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Jeremiah Gowdy Cc: Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <001f01c0c8e3$f3164bf0$015778d8@sherline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > > > Note that the AMD and Intel chips aren't slower because of incompetence. > > > They need to remain backwards-compatible with the 8086 instruction set > and > > > some of its methods of doing things. The 8086 processor sucks. It's > > > architecture and design suck. They were never meant for general purpose > > > computing--more for operating dishwashers and the like. The fact that > they > > > have advanced so far is a testament to the ingenuity of humanity--and to > the > > > stubbornness. > > > Blame IBM. ;-) > > > > Hehe... I thought the AMD/Intel were both CISC while the PowerPC > > is RISC created by IBM/Motorola/Apple. I guess until the 486, the x86 > > architecture was no match for workstations. > > All Intel and AMD x86 cpus today are RISC processors. They implement their > own hidden custom RISC architecture internally. The x86 CISC instructions > are translated into fixed length RISC instructions before they are > processed. Somehow I thought the Intel and AMD x86 CPUs were CISC and had a portion that was RISC. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:42:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230B537B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:42:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id B769255407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A5C51610; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:37:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Vincent Poy Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt , Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: # Hehe, that's funny... I thought Ted meant we needed Liquid # Nitrogen or Dry Ice or something ;) Some people have gone as far as submerging their computers into liquid nitrogen and using dry ice to keep it as cold as possible. Remember, someone turned an old SGI server into a fridge :) -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:43:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.sasknow.net (stimpy.sasknow.net [207.195.92.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB8037B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:43:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by home.sasknow.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3JEhRa06987; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:43:28 GMT (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) X-Authentication-Warning: home.sasknow.net: ryan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:43:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Ryan Thompson X-X-Sender: To: Eric Smith Cc: Subject: Re: Install problem In-Reply-To: <01041915222000.02463@david> Message-ID: <20010419143745.V6835-100000@home.sasknow.net> Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eric Smith wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > When I try and boot from the boot floppy, I get a strange error about > not being able to find /kernel, and some other stuff. The machine is > an IBM Server 95, so it's an MCA box. I'd think it might have > something to do with the proprietary drive controller/floppy drive, > because I can run it on other computers just fine. Have you run into > this before? Well, yes... It doesn't sound like your floppy drive or controller is at fault, because the "Can't find /kernel" message indicates that some kind of valid FreeBSD MBR was found and loaded on the floppy. (1) Perhaps you are trying to boot the MFS root floppy instead of the kernel floppy? That is the most likely cause. Boot the kern.flp first, then the kernel will load and you will be prompted for MFS root. If that isn't it, maybe the actual floppies are corrupt/not entirely written. Check the MD5s and dump the images again to a new pair of floppies. (1) Though, I'm not familiar with that hardware. Maybe you've got a funny "partially working" drive that is giving you this error.. but in that case it probably wouldn't be consistent. - Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:44:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A1E37B43E for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:44:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 17A6455407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A8551610; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:38:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Vincent Poy Cc: Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: # Hehe... Which reminds me, it's almost like IBM delivers their # crAptiva with Pentium 233MMX with just a heatsink but no fan and I doubt # you want your finger on the Pentium 233MMX. Ofcourse, the AMD Athlon's # run a lot hotter than the coppermines so does this mean the Intel's are # not real CPU's? ;) Gateway did and still does the samt hing, even with their Celery 700's. But you are forgetting about the Pentium 4 and the 900Mhz P3 Xeon with 2MB of on-die cache :) -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:44:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B63937B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:44:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA39843; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:43:36 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:43:36 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Linh Pham Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt , Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: > > # Hehe, that's funny... I thought Ted meant we needed Liquid > # Nitrogen or Dry Ice or something ;) > > Some people have gone as far as submerging their computers into liquid > nitrogen and using dry ice to keep it as cold as possible. > > Remember, someone turned an old SGI server into a fridge :) Heh, and some guy was talking about running water inside the case to keep everything cooled! :) Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:47:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DDD37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:47:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA39944; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:46:21 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:46:21 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Kyle Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy , Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , "" , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20010419164255.E59852744@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Kyle wrote: > --- "Jeremiah Gowdy" > > wrote: > >> G4 stil runs without heatsink - doesn't qualify as a real CPU to me. > >> end :)) > > > >Hell, seems like a 'realer' CPU to me ! Heatsinks are when we ran out of > >ideas for making a nice core/pipeline design, so we had to increase speed by > >ramping up the clock to insane speeds. > > > >I'm no Mac lover, but you have to admire the design of the Motorola G4 > > I sorta dislike Macs, as they're just weird, and I dont like their OS. > But I agree that heatsinks and fans are solutions to increase CPU > performance the easy way. Like athletes using drugs and stimulants. > I'd give G4 the credit although I dont like Macs. :/ I'm no Mac lover either since I hate the way Mac OS does things and their one button mouse after all these years! But Mac OSX with FreeBSD underneath atleast is a step in the right direction, just the FreeBSD alone is what stands out of the crowd. Mac OSX even copied the famous FreeBSD "Rock Solid Stability" in all their marketing. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:50:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC1337B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:50:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14qLNa-000IfK-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:50:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:50:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mkisofs bootable ISO Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay, I got the boot image from the floppy disk copied to /usr/cd/boot.img. Then, I issue the following command: cd /usr mkisofs -o cd.iso -R -J -B boot.img cd Then ftp over to a windows box and burn the cd.iso to a cd. However, the CD will not boot, even though I can read it in windows just fine. If I do a: cd /usr mkisofs -o cd.iso -B boot.img cd The cd will boot, but just to the BOOT: prompt, and it will say, "/boot/loader not found" and "/kernel" not found, even though I put it in the root of the cd. Also, long filenames break when I leave out the -R and -J. Any command line of what I should try with mkisofs would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Sincerely, Rick Duvall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:51:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBE637B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:51:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 1639655407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0669D51610; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Vincent Poy Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy , Charles Burns , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: # Somehow I thought the Intel and AMD x86 CPUs were CISC and had a # portion that was RISC. AMD uses their RISC86 engine to turn crummy x86 instructions into RISC-like instructions to crunch them more efficiently as it can. The Pentium III processors do something like that since the P6 core, but the original P6 core sucked at 16-bit code... so Intel had to reduce the optimizations in the Out-of-Order engine to increase 16-bit performance in the Pentium II. In reality... the x86 processors and, what people tend to call, RISC processors now are really post-RISC. Trying to expand IPC and increase Mhz :) Intel went the opposite with the P4. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 13:57:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E12837B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:57:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: from d1o907.telia.com (d1o907.telia.com [195.252.38.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA22058 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:57:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ludd.luth.se (h63n2fls21o907.telia.com [213.66.203.63]) by d1o907.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15528 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:57:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3ADF5116.3899DCA3@ludd.luth.se> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:56:54 +0200 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Organization: Acne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions Subject: Build problems with Gnome and oaf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I'm trying to install Gnome simply bu running "make install" in the /usr/ports/x11/gnome directory. I've had some smaller hiccups with gtk and glib not being up to date, but separate builds in those seems to have solved those problems. Now, the build crashes when trying to build oaf in /usr/ports/devel. I suspected my ports tree to be somewhat out of sync, so I removed the oaf directory and did a new cvsup. I got the latest oaf directory (oaf 0.6.2) and tried again, unfortunately without any more success. The build log: cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I.. -I../liboaf -I../liboaf -DOAFINFODIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/oaf\" -DOAF_LOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/gnome-xml -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -DOAF_CONFDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/etc\" -I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -c od-load.c od-load.c: In function `od_entry_read_props': od-load.c:50: structure has no member named `xmlChildrenNode' od-load.c:68: structure has no member named `xmlChildrenNode' od-load.c:95: structure has no member named `xmlChildrenNode' od-load.c:111: structure has no member named `xmlChildrenNode' od-load.c: In function `od_load_file': od-load.c:292: structure has no member named `xmlRootNode' od-load.c:293: structure has no member named `xmlRootNode' od-load.c:295: structure has no member named `xmlRootNode' gmake[2]: *** [od-load.o] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/oaf/work/oaf-0.6.2/oafd' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/oaf/work/oaf-0.6.2' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/oaf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/oaf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/oaf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/oaf. My system: FreeBSD fetis.informasic.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #18: Sun Apr 8 21:07:41 CEST 2001 js@fetis.informasic.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP4X i386 No overclocking, no optimizations during builds. I searched through maillists for ports and question, but didn't spot any obvoius references. Any pointers and suggestions that solves this would be highly appreciated. -- Cheers! Joachim - Alltid i harmonisk svängning --- FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight --- Joachim Strömbergson ASIC SoC designer, nice to CUTE animals Phone: +46(0)31 - 27 98 47 Web: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman --------------- Spamfodder: regeringen@regeringen.se --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14: 1:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E6B37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:01:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA40212; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:00:39 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:00:39 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > > > This depends on what you plan to do. The general consensus among the > > > hardware reviewers is that the Athlon is overall faster than any other > >x86 > > > compatible CPU. > > > > Yep, that's what I read as well but are there any drawbacks to > >being faster such as compatibilty and all that stuff? > > The last problem that AMD processors had that was in any way significant was > when a few old K6 processors would become flaky with more than about 40MB of > RAM. This was back when RAM was about $45/MB in the U.S. so most people > never got that much anyway (and when they did they weren't using K6 chips) Hmmm, perhaps that's why one of our machines with a K6-200 non-MMX seems unstable with 64 megs of RAM.. The RAM actually costed more like $50/MB for 72 pin EDO SIMMs. > Oddly enough, as of late AMD's platform has been more reliable than Intel's. > Intel released a chipset for the P3 that was designed exclusively for Rambus > RAM. When Intel figured out that Rambus wasn't the greatest, they hurriedly > implimented a "memory translator hub" that allowed the chipset to use SDRAM > on top of the RAMBUS packet protocol. > This obviously made the motherboard damn slow, but it also led to data > corruption in certain cases which is a big nono. Intel recalled the chipset. > They were in such a hurry to leapfrog AMD that they failed to properly test > the chipset. This will long be a taint on Intel quality in the memory of > many computer professionals. True but isn't the 440BX supposed to still be the robust Intel chipset? > Intel also released a Pentium-3 at 1.13GHz. You may have noticed that you > can't buy these--that is because Intel didn't seem to test them very much at > all. Rather than learning from their mistakes, they rushed another product > and had to recall it when almost none of them would even compile a Linux > kernel. I thought they recalled it as soon as they announced it, this was what drove their stock prices down. > Their latest prize, the P4, has been the joke of the computer industry. "Why > pay $1100 for a GHz Pentium three when you can pay $2500 for a lower > performing 1.5GHz P4!?" In one article that I read, an Intel rep was quoted > as saying "It's 1.5GHz. Of course it's faster." > Ad nausium. Hehe, it's marketing... > Athlons have one current issue--heat. They are very stable at very high > temperatures, but just in case, you should get a very good heatsink. > Recently Anandtech (www.anandtech.com) tested several Socket-A heatsinks and > crowned a king. I can't remember offhand what it was, though. With the > 1.33GHz Athlon dissipating about 72.9 watts, you need some pretty decent > cooling. This isn't to say that P3s and P4s aren't pretty toasty. It had to be either the GlobalWin or the other ones... The Orb's is a joke. > > > The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over > >the > > > Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the > >Athlon. > > > If you are going to be running applications that for some reason depend > > > almost exclusively on the bandwidth of the L2 cache (software with lots > >of > > > loops that are under 192K may be an example of this) than in some > >situations > > > a P3 at 1GHz will likely be faster than an Athlon at 1GHz. > > > > Hmmm, I guess that part is one I can't figure out since for > >FreeBSD, would this really count as a typical server? > > It does help, but the Athlon seems to be slightly faster at the same > clockspeed for the majority of tasks (and is available in higher > clockspeeds) Yep, true... > > Yeah, that's what I am concerned about. It seems that most things > >are optimized for the Intel CPU's. While the FPU is faster on the Athlon > >than the Intel, what about the non-FPU area? > > Theoretically the Athlon is 50% faster at non-FPU (integer) calculations. In > practice, it is 5-25% faster, depending on the application. > Don't worry too much about optimizations. The Athlon is designed to run P3 > optimized software. The only optimizations that don't benefit the Athlon > involve SSE optimizations (which make the P3 about 2% faster than the > Athlon, depending on the application, in FPU intensive stuff at the same > clock speed) and fixes for some of the P3's bugs, which the Athlon doesn't > have. (Not to say that the Athlon is bug free, but all have been fixed in > microcode because there aren't any known serious design flaws) Thanks, I guess at 2% increase, it's not worth it since with the same amount of money, the AMD will probably win anyways even for less money... > > Speaking about DDR RAM, what kind of performance hits would there > >be using DDR versus non-DDR RAM? > > None. DDR RAM is faster. > Well, ok technically DDR ram has a higher latency, but if you use a chipset > that is designed around low latencies like the AMD 760 chipset, this becomes > a non-issue. (In fact, latencies are often lower than those of normal RAM) > DDR stands for Double Data Rate. It's bandwidth is theoretically twice that > of normal RAM. In practice the actual system performance is 1-10% higher, > but this may improve as applications start to take more advantage of higher > bandwidth and as SMP Athlons come out. Yeah, true... Now, only if there is a AMD 760 chipset based motherboard with a ISA slot since I need it for my $600 soundcard :( > Tom's Hardware recommends using ONLY the AMD 760 chipset for DDR Athlons. > Tom's Hardware is usually right, so I would take that into consideration. I > have an AMD 750 (the old AMD chipset) on my system now and it has been > rock-solid even when overclocking my 1st generation Athlon from 500 to > 800MHz. Stability is, of course, the main factor when considering server > hardware. > Asus generally makes the most stable motherboards. True but I think ABIT motherboards have been good as well. ASUS has a problem with the ATA100 area from what I heard. > > > The Athlon is much, much cheaper. Motherboards, however, are more > >expensive. > > > The overall cost ends up lower with the Athlon, especially if you are > > > considering the price/perormance ratio. > > > > Yeah, that's what I realized as well. It seems like the VIA and > >AMD chipset based motherboards costs a lot more than the Intel variants. > > The EV6 bus is more complex and thus more expensive to implement. (FYI) Yeah, I guess I forgot about that. > > > The P4 is a different story entirely... I would avoid it like an old > >Cyrix > > > CPU if I were you. > > > Even if it weren't slower than the P3 or Athlon in most software, the > >socket > > > is soon to be changed so you will be left without the ability to upgrade > > > much in the future. The chip is terribly expensive (as is the rest of > >the > > > platform), has a short life, is amazingly inefficient with its > >transistors > > > and memory bandwidth, and is overall certainly something to steer clear > >from > > > until Intel fixes some of its unacceptable weaknesses. > > > > Atleast from the guys at Anantech, they are all anti-Intel and one > >of the reasons is as you stated about the P4's socket. I guess the > >choices were easier during the Pentium days since you can just pop in a > >AMD K6 in place of a Pentium without a total reinvestment. > > I often hear "Such-and-such a site is anti [AMD/Intel/Cyrix] because of > such-and-such." Yeah but on Anantech, atleast in the forums, people are all for the Athlon with very few for the Intel side. > Usually Tom's Hardware is accused more than Anandtech because they are mor > apt to be harsh on something that doesn't live up to the hype, but Anandtech > isn't immune. I haven't visited Tom's Hardware in ages... > I have followed many hardware sites for years and have even written a few > reviews. With the exception of sites like AMDzone and Intelzone, they are > anti-stuff-that-is-unwise-to-buy, not anti [insert brand]. > Really, why should anyone care what brand a chip is? If a given platform is > a good deal, great. If not, avoid it. I don't care who makes my computer > stuff as long as they have a good rep, a good product, and didn't BS too > much in their marketing. Yep, that point is true since what matters is the end product and how it performs... > Intel just dropped P4 prices. If the chip somehow gets the best > price/performance ratio, I will have to consider it in the future. I think Intel will still cut prices once more later this month and I think AMD just cut prices as well. > > Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those. I guess I just wanted to > >know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it > >under Windows. > > Ya... Isn't that irritating? I usually compile a Linux kernel with an > optimized compiler and with the default compiler to test myself. Typically > Windows software seems to perform similarly to similar Unix software, at > least for me. I guess it's easy to test it yourself after you have the hardware itself already. It's just hard to figure out what to buy. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14: 3:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75F537B43F for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:03:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3JL3LX06295 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:03:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3JL3LH06280; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:03:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3JL3B627288; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:03:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:03:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: Alvin Sim Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re[4]: stop ppp dialing on boot In-Reply-To: <5222085677.20010419001031@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Alvin Sim wrote: > Wednesday, April 18, 2001, 09:34:13 PM, Duke Normandin wrote: > > DN> On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 07:53:15PM +0800, Alvin Sim wrote: > > [...snip...] > > DN> I seem to recall from the time I went through this exercise, that > DN> "sendmail" was the culprit doing DNS lookups. I believe that i cured the > DN> problem by disabling 'dns' in ppp.conf. Check the mailing list archives - > DN> I'm sure that there is *lots* of material on this issue. Later... > > unfortunately, i do not have sendmail enabled. all thats startup during > boot is samba and sshd from /usr/local/etc/rc.d. > > i have disabled 'enable dns' in ppp.conf. it still dials :( i _think_ > its really a dns problem, as you've mentioned. thanks for pointing that > out. now i know what to search for, i think :) > You could enable logging in named.conf, to see who asks for what. Then make your named authoritive for that. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14: 3:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fear.net (fear.net [207.180.208.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B793737B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@fear.net) Received: from fear.net (matt@fear.net [207.180.208.7]) by fear.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19144; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:04:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:04:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas (Matt) Barton" To: Voutah Cc: Freebsd-Questions Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Voutah wrote: > I'm using a 4.2-freebsd release as a firewall and packet forwarding > router. There's no screen or keyboard attached to the computer, > everything is done through SSH. Sometimes when i try to login using > SSH he waits for about 1 minute after entering my username and > password before displaying the MOTD and the bash prompt. While a > telnet login is very fast. I'm using Putty as my SSH client on a win2k > server and a win2k professional machine, no differe between pro and > server. I believe the problem is that OpenSSH is trying to do a reverse DNS lookup, which is why it takes so long. Try adding your IP and host name to your /etc/hosts file and see if that make sit work any better. -- Matt Barton matt@fear.net Indianapolis, IN http://www.mattbarton.ws/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14: 7:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0E437B43E for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:07:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA40352; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:06:49 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:06:49 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Sean Peck Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy , Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3ADF44B4.547DE65D@loudcloud.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Sean Peck wrote: > I have been running AMD processors with both FreeBSD and BSDi for quite some > time now, and ATHLON is by far the better choice than the PIII or the P4. I guess it is cheaper too and delivers far better performance for the pricing and you can still get a better or equivelent system for much less. > The only real issue with AMD is heat related they put out a lot of heat.. but > that's about the only "concern" and I have never had this be a problem. Yep, I heard heat is the problem especially with those over 1Ghz... > I would highly recommend purchasing AMD over any Intel offering in > equivalent cost. You will get far more bang for your buck with > Athlon/Duron over anything that Intel has in the price range, period. True. Now, speaking about the Duron, are the Duron's really faster than the Athlon's when both are overclocked? Some guy who runs a cluster of 20-30 AMD's for rc5 crunching says the Duron is faster. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? > > > > > > > > This depends on what you plan to do. The general consensus among the > > > > hardware reviewers is that the Athlon is overall faster than any other > > x86 > > > > compatible CPU. > > > > > > Yep, that's what I read as well but are there any drawbacks to > > > being faster such as compatibilty and all that stuff? > > > > > > > The compatibility and all that stuff days of the K5 and K6 are long gone. > > Today, generally, if a cpu is x86 compatible, that's that. There are no > > compatibility issues with the Athlon. > > > > > > The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over > > the > > > > Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the > > Athlon. > > > > Could you explain this ? If you're comparing Thunderbirds to Coppermines, I > > didn't think that was the case. > > > > > > The Athlon has a superior floating point unit that is, in addition, more > > > > deeply pipelined. When using software that isn't optimized for any > > > > particular FPU, the Athlon is typically just under 30% faster. (Some > > > > examples of this can be seen on comparisons between the two at > > Anandtech) > > > > > > Yeah, that's what I am concerned about. It seems that most things > > > are optimized for the Intel CPU's. While the FPU is faster on the Athlon > > > than the Intel, what about the non-FPU area? > > > > In business applications benchmarks the Athlon always stomps the P3. > > > > > > The Athlon can take more advantage of higher memory bandwidth than the > > P3 > > > > (but probably not the P4), thus you can get a greater performance > > benefit in > > > > some cases using DDR RAM. > > > > > > Speaking about DDR RAM, what kind of performance hits would there > > > be using DDR versus non-DDR RAM? > > > > If I remember correctly, depending on the type the best SDRAM gets about 800 > > megs/sec. DDR SDRAM comes in two flavors, 1.6 gigs/sec and 2.1gigs/sec. > > > > > > The Athlon is much, much cheaper. Motherboards, however, are more > > expensive. > > > > The overall cost ends up lower with the Athlon, especially if you are > > > > considering the price/perormance ratio. > > > > > > Yeah, that's what I realized as well. It seems like the VIA and > > > AMD chipset based motherboards costs a lot more than the Intel variants. > > > > You can get an Athlon motherboard for $100. Even if the Intel motherboard > > was half that, at $50, the difference in the prices of the cpus is FAR more > > than $50. Up to $200 in the higher end processors. People always speak of > > the higher cost of Athlon motherboards but I don't see the point if the AMD > > cpu is 40% cheaper and the difference in motherboard prices is relatively > > pennies when you're speaking of a multi-hundred dollar purchase. > > > > > Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those. I guess I just wanted to > > > know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it > > > under Windows. > > > > It's the same. If the code is written and compiled properly, the difference > > should be seen in all OSes. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > Garbage Collection... the bell bottoms of programming.. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:13:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B45437B422; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:13:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f3JLCCK46935; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:12:12 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:12:12 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange libraries troubles Message-ID: <20010420091212.A44998@itouchnz.itouch> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from danfe@inet.ssc.nsu.ru on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:50:29PM +0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:50:29PM +0700, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > Hello! > > I've been preparing some FreeBSD boxes for the new project going on, and > when I already created all needed images, and cloned my second box, I > encountered this problem: > > $ man whatever > > it yields > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Cannot open "/usr/lib/libz.so.2" > > Which is very strange :-( Check the permissions of "/", "/usr" and "/usr/lib". I suspect that you can do this as root, but not as a std user. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "You can get farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone" - Al Capone To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:14:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin1.bigpond.com (juicer13.bigpond.com [139.134.6.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AA137B50C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:14:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.53]) by mailin1.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GC25WX00.4R4; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:19:45 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-141-84.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.141.84]) by mail0.bigpond.com (Claudes-Interim-MailRouter V2.9b 13/4476762); 20 Apr 2001 07:14:47 Message-ID: <018e01c0c915$bc481270$548d093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Info" , "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "Rick Duvall" , "duane jones" , References: <008b01c0c8a4$90266140$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <3ADEFCA1.AFC0A1B4@top-photo.com> Subject: Re: Cheap ISP - Was Re: No Subject Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:14:34 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If there is anyone in OZ looking for experience running an "ISP" they could join Apana :) Actually I understand there are a few organizations in the US & UK at least looking at setting up non-profit ISPs ..... dunno if any are actually functioning yet though ----- Original Message ----- From: "Info" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "Rick Duvall" ; "duane jones" ; Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:56 AM Subject: Cheap ISP - Was Re: No Subject > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > -----------snip 8<---------------- > > > > If he really wants to start an ISP and doesen't know where to start > > then there's nothing better than going and getting himself hired by > > an ISP and working for them for a few years to gain some experience. > > > > > > > >> On 18 Apr 2001 13:34:58 -0400, duane jones wrote: > > >> > What i am looking for is,a program that will allow me to provide my own > > >> > internet service from my home, without having to pay an ISP! > > >can i do this > > >> > with FreeBSD > > Yeah, he definitely needs to get his feet wet first. Still, based on > the original question, there is no possible solution. He'll have to pay > an upstream ISP. > > -- > Bob Greene > AustinTX.COM > 512.835.8005 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:16:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from puke.reno.oemsupport.com (64-42-17-172.atgi.net [64.42.17.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035D037B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:16:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pcalkins@oemsupport.com) Received: by puke.reno.oemsupport.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:16:29 -0700 Message-ID: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A0@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> From: Patrick Calkins To: "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: OT: fBSD with Apache, Zeus, or Kernel HTTPD??? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:16:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, This may be slightly OT, but what would be the best/strongest/fastest/securest web server solution? Running FreeBSD is a no brainer- it hands down seems to beat about every OS out there for this, but what for the web server? Apache? or Zeus (recent tests suggest it beats out Apache marginally although it is lots of $$$), or is there a Kernel WWW server out there?? Thanks! Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:17:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9873737B449 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:17:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02883; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:16:31 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:16:31 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Linh Pham Cc: Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: > > # Hehe... Which reminds me, it's almost like IBM delivers their > # crAptiva with Pentium 233MMX with just a heatsink but no fan and I doubt > # you want your finger on the Pentium 233MMX. Ofcourse, the AMD Athlon's > # run a lot hotter than the coppermines so does this mean the Intel's are > # not real CPU's? ;) > > Gateway did and still does the samt hing, even with their Celery 700's. > But you are forgetting about the Pentium 4 and the 900Mhz P3 Xeon with > 2MB of on-die cache :) I thought Gateway, Dell, Sony's all don't even use fans and they have a heatduct or something :) Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:20:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F80737B43E for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:20:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 4D22055407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D23751610; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:14:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Vincent Poy Cc: Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: # I thought Gateway, Dell, Sony's all don't even use fans and they # have a heatduct or something :) Dell uses heat ducts in most of their machines (except for their new GX150 small form-factors and their small form factor GX100). -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:20:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from listproc.corp.loudcloud.com (olly.loudcloud.com [208.50.142.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD4337B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seanp@loudcloud.com) Received: from loudcloud.com (grover.geek.loudcloud.com [192.168.0.253]) by listproc.corp.loudcloud.com (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3JLJh224566; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3ADF58E1.3660FD8E@loudcloud.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:30:09 -0700 From: Sean Peck X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Poy Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy , Charles Burns , lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know if the DURON is faster when overclocked, I personally stay away from overclocking, I don't need it. The only differences between the Athlon and the Duron is on chip cache, and speeds of the front side bus, if I am not mistaken. Athlons have larger L2 Cache I believe than the Durons, and are available with up to a 200MHZ bus. These are the only differences between the chips from my understanding (if I am wrong I am sure someone here will set me straight) Vincent Poy wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Sean Peck wrote: > > > I have been running AMD processors with both FreeBSD and BSDi for quite some > > time now, and ATHLON is by far the better choice than the PIII or the P4. > > I guess it is cheaper too and delivers far better performance for > the pricing and you can still get a better or equivelent system for much > less. > > > The only real issue with AMD is heat related they put out a lot of heat.. but > > that's about the only "concern" and I have never had this be a problem. > > Yep, I heard heat is the problem especially with those over > 1Ghz... > > > I would highly recommend purchasing AMD over any Intel offering in > > equivalent cost. You will get far more bang for your buck with > > Athlon/Duron over anything that Intel has in the price range, period. > > True. Now, speaking about the Duron, are the Duron's really > faster than the Athlon's when both are overclocked? Some guy who runs a > cluster of 20-30 AMD's for rc5 crunching says the Duron is faster. > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] > San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > > > Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? > > > > > > > > > > This depends on what you plan to do. The general consensus among the > > > > > hardware reviewers is that the Athlon is overall faster than any other > > > x86 > > > > > compatible CPU. > > > > > > > > Yep, that's what I read as well but are there any drawbacks to > > > > being faster such as compatibilty and all that stuff? > > > > > > > > > > The compatibility and all that stuff days of the K5 and K6 are long gone. > > > Today, generally, if a cpu is x86 compatible, that's that. There are no > > > compatibility issues with the Athlon. > > > > > > > > The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over > > > the > > > > > Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the > > > Athlon. > > > > > > Could you explain this ? If you're comparing Thunderbirds to Coppermines, I > > > didn't think that was the case. > > > > > > > > The Athlon has a superior floating point unit that is, in addition, more > > > > > deeply pipelined. When using software that isn't optimized for any > > > > > particular FPU, the Athlon is typically just under 30% faster. (Some > > > > > examples of this can be seen on comparisons between the two at > > > Anandtech) > > > > > > > > Yeah, that's what I am concerned about. It seems that most things > > > > are optimized for the Intel CPU's. While the FPU is faster on the Athlon > > > > than the Intel, what about the non-FPU area? > > > > > > In business applications benchmarks the Athlon always stomps the P3. > > > > > > > > The Athlon can take more advantage of higher memory bandwidth than the > > > P3 > > > > > (but probably not the P4), thus you can get a greater performance > > > benefit in > > > > > some cases using DDR RAM. > > > > > > > > Speaking about DDR RAM, what kind of performance hits would there > > > > be using DDR versus non-DDR RAM? > > > > > > If I remember correctly, depending on the type the best SDRAM gets about 800 > > > megs/sec. DDR SDRAM comes in two flavors, 1.6 gigs/sec and 2.1gigs/sec. > > > > > > > > The Athlon is much, much cheaper. Motherboards, however, are more > > > expensive. > > > > > The overall cost ends up lower with the Athlon, especially if you are > > > > > considering the price/perormance ratio. > > > > > > > > Yeah, that's what I realized as well. It seems like the VIA and > > > > AMD chipset based motherboards costs a lot more than the Intel variants. > > > > > > You can get an Athlon motherboard for $100. Even if the Intel motherboard > > > was half that, at $50, the difference in the prices of the cpus is FAR more > > > than $50. Up to $200 in the higher end processors. People always speak of > > > the higher cost of Athlon motherboards but I don't see the point if the AMD > > > cpu is 40% cheaper and the difference in motherboard prices is relatively > > > pennies when you're speaking of a multi-hundred dollar purchase. > > > > > > > Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those. I guess I just wanted to > > > > know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it > > > > under Windows. > > > > > > It's the same. If the code is written and compiled properly, the difference > > > should be seen in all OSes. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Garbage Collection... the bell bottoms of programming.. > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Garbage Collection... the bell bottoms of programming.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:27:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.sasknow.net (stimpy.sasknow.net [207.195.92.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9432F37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by home.sasknow.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3JFQpY57251; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:26:52 GMT (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) X-Authentication-Warning: home.sasknow.net: ryan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:26:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Ryan Thompson X-X-Sender: To: Eric Smith Cc: Subject: Re: Install problem In-Reply-To: <01041917224500.02533@david> Message-ID: <20010419152031.X47611-100000@home.sasknow.net> Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eric Smith wrote to Ryan Thompson: > Actually, I am booting from the kernel floppy. I can boot it just > fine on other machines...just not on the MCA box. What led me to > believe that the floppy controller/drive was the problem was that it > gave me some sort of I/O error, coupled with a hex address. I'll try > and re-create the problem later if neccesary. In THAT case, yes, it could very well be your floppy or controller. You didn't tell us you actually got an error on bootup! :-) If you send us a copy of the error output, with more detailed specs on your actual hardware configuration, someone might be able to offer a better clue than my more general advice ;-) Just a thought: If you can't get the floppies to go, you can always install from CD. (Download the ISO for the desired release/snapshot from ftp.freebsd.org). It might be easier to borrow a cheap/compatible IDE CD-ROM drive than it would be to troubleshoot/replace your floppy drive/controller. - Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:30:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dualcpus.com (dualcpus.com [65.160.20.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEBAF37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:30:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgowdy@home.com) Received: (qmail 37567 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 21:30:43 -0000 Received: from sherline.cts.com (HELO server2) (204.216.163.132) by dualcpus.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 21:30:43 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c0c917$fd6465e0$015778d8@sherline.net> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Sean Peck" , "Vincent Poy" Cc: "Charles Burns" , , , , , References: <3ADF58E1.3660FD8E@loudcloud.com> Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:30:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I don't know if the DURON is faster when overclocked, I personally stay away from > overclocking, I don't need it. I doubt if the Duron is faster overclocked or underclocked. It's just the Thunderbird with less cache. Less cache != faster (at the same cache speed) as far as I've ever known. > The only differences between the Athlon and the Duron is on chip cache, and speeds > of the front side bus, if I am not mistaken. > > Athlons have larger L2 Cache I believe than the Durons, That is the only difference. > and are available with up to a 200MHZ bus. They both have a 200mhz bus. Not up to, but 200mhz. The FSB is 100 or 133 in both. (Not talking about DDR and new boards) Just say it this way, "Duron is a Thunderbird with less cache". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:37:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C6837B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:37:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kp32634@swbell.net) Received: from KP32634 ([208.191.143.226]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0GC200FBP6CHA8@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:29:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:29:14 -0500 From: Kenny Powell Subject: CD Image To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <004701c0c917$c857c540$e28fbfd0@swbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0C8ED.DF262FC0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0C8ED.DF262FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have tried continually to download the CD image for version 4.3 and it = will not give it to me... It immediately says "error occured during = transfer". I would like to try this software and possibly switch to it = instead of windows... Is it possible you could send it to me or give me = a better location to download it? My email box size is unlimited it you = want to send it as an attachment... I have a DSL connection so bandwidth = isn't a problem either... Thanks, Ken Powell ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0C8ED.DF262FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have tried continually to download = the CD image=20 for version 4.3 and it will not give it to me... It immediately says = "error=20 occured during transfer". I would like to try this software and possibly = switch=20 to it instead of windows... Is it possible you could send it to me or = give me a=20 better location to download it? My email box size is unlimited it you = want to=20 send it as an attachment... I have a DSL connection so bandwidth isn't a = problem=20 either...
 
Thanks,
Ken Powell
 
------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0C8ED.DF262FC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:39:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netsys.hn (mail.netsys.hn [200.41.53.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E117437B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:39:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from quintana@netsys.hn) Received: from HPLAPTOP.netsys.hn (support.netsys.hn [200.41.53.58]) by mail.netsys.hn (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21193; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:39:49 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010419153516.028800b0@netsys.hn> X-Sender: quintana@netsys.hn X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:35:52 -0500 To: Chris Byrnes From: Pablo Quintana Subject: Re: Virtual POP3s with sendmail Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not a FAQ, but check http://freshmeat.net/projects/vhost Pablo Quintana At 03:33 p.m. 19/04/01 -0500, you wrote: >Is anyone aware of a FAQ that tells how to do virtual POP3s with sendmail? > > >Chris Byrnes, chris@JEAH.net >JEAH Communications, http://www.JEAH.net >608.244.9525 (Toll), 1.866.AWW.JEAH (Toll-Free) > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:45:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BC5737B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:45:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 66618 invoked by uid 100); 19 Apr 2001 21:45:32 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15071.23675.966064.330382@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:45:31 -0500 To: "Charles Burns" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <100472025@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charles Burns types: > You are quite right though, modern x86 CPUs translate everything to RISC > micro-ops befor processing them. RISC is pretty much vertical microcode. WISC - which didn't make quite the same splash - is pretty much horizontal microcode. People wanting to build fast CISC computers have done so by microcoding them for a long time, usually using vertical microcode. The 370 line was that way, as well the high end of the PDP-11 line was that way. Seymour Cray didn't have to implement a CISC instruction set, so the Cray I instruction set is very RISC-like, with the exception of the instructions for dealing with the array processor hanging off the back. The truly cool machines had a writable control store. The PDP-11 kit sold by Heathkit included that as an option. BBN had the ultimate Unix version, though - they included a C compiler and WCS linker so you could write new instructions in C, so your function calls turned into single instructions. My favorite microcode oddity is the IBM PC card IBM sold that used a 68K chip with custom microcode to interpret 370 machine instructions so you could run MVS software on your x86 PC. Ok, enough reminiscing for one day. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:50:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from puke.reno.oemsupport.com (64-42-17-172.atgi.net [64.42.17.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE94637B43C; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pcalkins@oemsupport.com) Received: by puke.reno.oemsupport.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:50:18 -0700 Message-ID: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> From: Patrick Calkins To: "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:50:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have a quick (or not so quick) question: I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so money really isnt a concern. hehe Thanks for the input! Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:50:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin1.bigpond.com (juicer13.bigpond.com [139.134.6.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B49437B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.52]) by mailin1.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GC27KD00.JK9; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:55:25 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-141-84.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.141.84]) by mail5.bigpond.com (Claudes-Eclectic-MailRouter V2.9c 9/4693021); 20 Apr 2001 07:50:28 Message-ID: <01c601c0c91a$b7e58960$548d093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Kenny Powell" , References: <004701c0c917$c857c540$e28fbfd0@swbell.net> Subject: Re: CD Image Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:47:34 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01C1_01C0C96E.29815060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01C1_01C0C96E.29815060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've struck that problem too .... the image has been changed a few times = (beta / RC1 / RC2 / RC3 / RC4) so possibly that has something to do with = it, plus several of the sites are very slow so they timeout constantly. = Unfortunately its not possible to get all the ISOs from local mirrors = .... since lots of people probably need to get them from the one or two = sites that do have the latest one its not surprising that the poor thing = is overloaded !!!! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kenny Powell=20 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:29 AM Subject: CD Image I have tried continually to download the CD image for version 4.3 and = it will not give it to me... It immediately says "error occured during = transfer". I would like to try this software and possibly switch to it = instead of windows... Is it possible you could send it to me or give me = a better location to download it? My email box size is unlimited it you = want to send it as an attachment... I have a DSL connection so bandwidth = isn't a problem either... Thanks, Ken Powell ------=_NextPart_000_01C1_01C0C96E.29815060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've struck that problem too = .... the image=20 has been changed a few times (beta / RC1 / RC2 / RC3 / RC4) so possibly = that has=20 something to do with it, plus several of the sites are very slow so they = timeout=20 constantly. Unfortunately its not possible to get all the ISOs from = local=20 mirrors .... since lots of people probably need to get them from the one = or two=20 sites that do have the latest one its not surprising that the poor thing = is=20 overloaded !!!!
 
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I have tried continually to download = the CD image=20 for version 4.3 and it will not give it to me... It immediately says = "error=20 occured during transfer". I would like to try this software and = possibly=20 switch to it instead of windows... Is it possible you could send it to = me or=20 give me a better location to download it? My email box size is = unlimited it=20 you want to send it as an attachment... I have a DSL connection so = bandwidth=20 isn't a problem either...
 
Thanks,
Ken Powell
 
------=_NextPart_000_01C1_01C0C96E.29815060-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 14:52:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.coastsight.com (ns1.coastsight.com [208.46.230.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C4837B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:52:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maillist@coastsight.com) Received: from ns1.coastsight.com ([208.46.230.17]) by ns1.coastsight.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14qMM8-000In9-00; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:52:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:52:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Duvall To: Doug Young Cc: Kenny Powell , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD Image In-Reply-To: <01c601c0c91a$b7e58960$548d093d@oracle> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anybody with a fast connection willing to set up a mirror to resolve this? On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Doug Young wrote: > I've struck that problem too .... the image has been changed a few times (beta / RC1 / RC2 / RC3 / RC4) so possibly that has something to do with it, plus several of the sites are very slow so they timeout constantly. Unfortunately its not possible to get all the ISOs from local mirrors .... since lots of people probably need to get them from the one or two sites that do have the latest one its not surprising that the poor thing is overloaded !!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kenny Powell > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:29 AM > Subject: CD Image > > > I have tried continually to download the CD image for version 4.3 and it will not give it to me... It immediately says "error occured during transfer". I would like to try this software and possibly switch to it instead of windows... Is it possible you could send it to me or give me a better location to download it? My email box size is unlimited it you want to send it as an attachment... I have a DSL connection so bandwidth isn't a problem either... > > Thanks, > Ken Powell > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 15: 3: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web14106.mail.yahoo.com (web14106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B7D937B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:03:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k_greenwood1@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010419220303.98078.qmail@web14106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.105.201.252] by web14106.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:03:03 PDT Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:03:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "K. Greenwood" Subject: RE: How to connect to the internet through a proxy To: Ronnie Clark Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry to nudge in, but I was just curious if you (or anybody) have been able to successfully retrieve mail from a POP server through a Squid proxy server. I'm hoping there are some entries in the squid.conf that I missed (and considering the size of that thing, entirely possible/likely). --- Ronnie Clark wrote: > Rick, > > I also have a FreeBSD box behind a proxy. I can > surf the web just fine by > manually pointing Netscape to use the proxy box. (In > Netscape, click on > "Edit", "Preferences", then at the bottom in the > "Advanced" area, you should > see "proxies". Choose "Manual Proxy config" and set > up your proxy's ip > address and ports in the appropriate blanks). > The only thing that I have not figured out, and > wonder if this is actually > what you are talking about, is when I go to > /usr/ports/"xyz", and try to do > a command line "make install" of a port, it will not > auto magically get out > to the internet and I do not know how to tell it to > use a proxy. > Hope this helped, even if it was only a little > bit. > > Ronnie Clark > A+, MCSE, CCSA, CCSE > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Duvall [mailto:maillist@coastsight.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:45 AM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: How to connect to the internet through a > proxy > > > Hi, > > My FreeBSD box is on the inside of a proxy server. > I would like to > connect it to the internet so that I can download > files with it. How do I > set FreeBSd up to do this? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 15: 6:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from edwin.mounet.com (edwin.mounet.com [216.145.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BDD3337B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:06:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hornback@wireco.net) Received: (qmail 16680 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 2001 22:01:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomcat) (216.145.67.19) by mounet.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 22:01:53 -0000 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" To: Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: Install problem Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:05:29 -0400 Message-ID: <001b01c0c91c$d856ac40$0e00000a@tomcat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <01041915222000.02463@david> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG NO! *screams in pain* FreeBSD does NOT support MCA, will NOT run on MCA and unless you're one = hellaciously elite hacker, won't. What you are running into is the wonderful foresight of IBM's engineers = when they came up with MCA, back in the mid 80s. MCA doesn't allow = hardware to occupy an IRQ, as the rest of the world understands it. As much as I hate to say it, there is a version of Linux that will run = on MCA, if you can find it. And I believe Solaris might run on it, but = that would be an old version as Sol8 doesn't even support ISA anymore. IBM builds good, strong, solid hardware... your machine still being = around and in good running shape is a testament to that. Just good luck = in finding software that'll work with their quirky "next generation" = architecture... --- Andy =09 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Eric Smith > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:22 AM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Install problem >=20 > When I try and boot from the boot floppy, I get a strange error about = not=20 > being able to find /kernel, and some other stuff. The machine is an = IBM=20 > Server 95, so it's an MCA box. I'd think it might have something=20 > to do with=20 > the proprietary drive controller/floppy drive, because I can run=20 > it on other=20 > computers just fine. Have you run into this before? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 15: 8: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin9.bigpond.com (juicer34.bigpond.com [139.134.6.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1ACE37B43E for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.56]) by mailin9.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GC28DX00.I0F; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:13:09 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-141-84.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.141.84]) by mail3.bigpond.com (Claudes-Hungry-MailRouter V2.9c 5/4587770); 20 Apr 2001 08:08:12 Message-ID: <01dd01c0c91d$32273a00$548d093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Rick Duvall" Cc: "Kenny Powell" , References: Subject: Re: CD Image Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:07:57 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Certainly not in OZ while Tel$tra still have a virtual monopoly ..... hopefully things will change shortly now that SingTel have acquired Optus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Duvall" To: "Doug Young" Cc: "Kenny Powell" ; Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:52 AM Subject: Re: CD Image > Anybody with a fast connection willing to set up a mirror to resolve this? > > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Doug Young wrote: > > > I've struck that problem too .... the image has been changed a few times (beta / RC1 / RC2 / RC3 / RC4) so possibly that has something to do with it, plus several of the sites are very slow so they timeout constantly. Unfortunately its not possible to get all the ISOs from local mirrors .... since lots of people probably need to get them from the one or two sites that do have the latest one its not surprising that the poor thing is overloaded !!!! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kenny Powell > > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:29 AM > > Subject: CD Image > > > > > > I have tried continually to download the CD image for version 4.3 and it will not give it to me... It immediately says "error occured during transfer". I would like to try this software and possibly switch to it instead of windows... Is it possible you could send it to me or give me a better location to download it? My email box size is unlimited it you want to send it as an attachment... I have a DSL connection so bandwidth isn't a problem either... > > > > Thanks, > > Ken Powell > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 15: 9: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806FC37B423; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:08:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 9085155407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CC151610; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:03:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Patrick Calkins Cc: "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-19, Patrick Calkins scribbled: # I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database # servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). # The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a # FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more # than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD # and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux # either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with # it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) # support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware # that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, # reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, # clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could # help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I # noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used # FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD # if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so # money really isnt a concern. You can always go with BSDi's hardware/computer division and configure/purchase servers that they can pre-install FreeBSD 4.x or BSD/OS on the servers for you. VA Linux and Penguin Computing servers are pretty good, but don't expect to have FreeBSD installed on there by default. Compaq, Dell and the other large companies don't (or at times, don't want to support) FreeBSD or any non Microsoft or Linux operating system. If they support Linux, it's either available on a limited configuration basis or on a not-pre-installed basis. You could also decide to buy the components and build them yourself :) If you really want horsepower and the ability to go multi-proc later, the Compaq Alpha rackmounted servers are nice and I think they have FreeBSD (or at least one of the BSDs) installed on some of their Test Drive servers. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 15:12:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from edwin.mounet.com (edwin.mounet.com [216.145.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 359F637B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:12:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hornback@wireco.net) Received: (qmail 18898 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 2001 22:08:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tomcat) (216.145.67.19) by mounet.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 22:08:13 -0000 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:11:50 -0400 Message-ID: <001c01c0c91d$bb795720$0e00000a@tomcat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Vincent Poy > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:36 PM > To: Linh Pham > Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD >=20 > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: >=20 > > On 2001-04-19, Bzdik BSD scribbled: > > > > # G4 stil runs without heatsink - doesn't qualify as a real CPU to = me. > > # end :)) > > > > A G3 can run without a heatsink, but the G4 does require a heatsink = (it > > requires quite a bit more power compared to the G3, thus needs to > > dissipate a lot more power than the G3)... but can run without an = active > > fan. > > > > Of course, have you touched a G3 without a heatsink? :) >=20 > Hehe... Which reminds me, it's almost like IBM delivers their > crAptiva with Pentium 233MMX with just a heatsink but no fan and I = doubt > you want your finger on the Pentium 233MMX. Ofcourse, the AMD = Athlon's > run a lot hotter than the coppermines so does this mean the Intel's = are > not real CPU's? ;) Packard Bell did the same with their 133 MHz models. I had one come = into the shop a couple of years ago, guy wanted to know why his system = wasn't stable. Most companies that I've seen that do that, only putting a heatsink on = the chip, also line up a case fan to blow overtop of it. That does some = good, but I hasten to guess how much. --- Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 15:22:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (CPE-61-9-138-203.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.138.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F005337B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:22:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3JMJh005187; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:19:43 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Message-Id: <200104192219.f3JMJh005187@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Sergeant" To: "Doug Young" , "Rick Duvall" Cc: "Kenny Powell" , Subject: Re: CD Image X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.3 On freebsd/mysql Date: 19 Apr 2001 17:19:41 EST Reply-To: "Mark Sergeant" In-Reply-To: <01dd01c0c91d$32273a00$548d093d@oracle> References: <01dd01c0c91d$32273a00$548d093d@oracle> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would be more than happy to do this apart from one problem I don't have enough disk space in my machines. If anyone has a spare ide drive lying around let me know and i'll setup a cd image mirror for Melbourne AU. Cheers, Mark On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:07:57 +1000, Doug Young said: > Certainly not in OZ while Tel$tra still have a virtual monopoly ..... > hopefully things will change shortly now that SingTel have acquired Optus > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Duvall" > To: "Doug Young" > Cc: "Kenny Powell" ; > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:52 AM > Subject: Re: CD Image > > > > Anybody with a fast connection willing to set up a mirror to resolve this? > > > > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Doug Young wrote: > > > > > I've struck that problem too .... the image has been changed a few times > (beta / RC1 / RC2 / RC3 / RC4) so possibly that has something to do with it, > plus several of the sites are very slow so they timeout constantly. > Unfortunately its not possible to get all the ISOs from local mirrors .... > since lots of people probably need to get them from the one or two sites > that do have the latest one its not surprising that the poor thing is > overloaded !!!! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Kenny Powell > > > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:29 AM > > > Subject: CD Image > > > > > > > > > I have tried continually to download the CD image for version 4.3 and > it will not give it to me... It immediately says "error occured during > transfer". I would like to try this software and possibly switch to it > instead of windows... Is it possible you could send it to me or give me a > better location to download it? My email box size is unlimited it you want > to send it as an attachment... I have a DSL connection so bandwidth isn't a > problem either... > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ken Powell > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > -- "I am convinced that the manufacturers of carpet odor removing powder have included encapsulated time released cat urine in their products. This technology must be what prevented its distribution during my mom's reign. My carpet smells like piss, and I don't have a cat. Better go buy some more." -- timw@zeb.USWest.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 15:27:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9CC37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:27:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fmela0@sm.socccd.cc.ca.us) Received: from sm.socccd.cc.ca.us (pool0457.cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.178.147.202]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19155 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3ADF66BA.DE661CD4@sm.socccd.cc.ca.us> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:29:14 -0700 From: Farooq Mela X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Web cams Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi -questions: I was wondering, what webcams are supported by FreeBSD? I'm running 4.3-RC, and dont plan on running -current. I'm not subscribed to this list so please email me privately with your response. TIA -- farooq To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 15:29:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094DB37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:29:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3JMTWS71797 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org.AVP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:29:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3JMTWp71791 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:29:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3JMTD640358 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:29:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:29:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: Subject: Building kernel without making .depend Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If I just change something in one source file, which doesn't change the dependencies, is it possible to just compile that file, not remaing .depends? /usr/src # make -DNOCLEAN kernel KERNCONF=MYCONFIG helps avoiding recompiling the entire kernel, but I'd like also avoiding redoing .depends Is it also possible to avoid doing anything in modules? (I'm playing around with printf's to debug a "ed0 attach returned 2" problem) Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 15:37: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E960A37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA82479 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:06:57 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) From: Greg Lewis Message-Id: <200104192236.IAA82479@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Dialup only works from Windows To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:06:57 +0930 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL70 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I've recently moved and am trying to configure ppp to work with my fiancee's ISP. I've not had any trouble like this before, so I'm somewhat perplexed by what is going on and am hoping someone can shed some light on it. Simply put, authentication only seems to work when using Windows dialup networking. My fiancee's Win 95 and Win2k machines both happily connect. However, when I try to connect using ppp I get an "Invalid user name/password pair" message. I'm trying this using ppp interactively. I've verified the correct username and password are being used, so thats not the problem. Interestingly, I get the same problem trying to connect interactively using Windows 95 Hyperterminal to dial in. Has anyone had a similar problem? I'm sure I'm just missing a ppp config option, but I can't work out what it is :(. regards, Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 16: 3:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bastion.energex.com.au (bastion.energex.com.au [147.209.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6066937B423; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:03:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrickcollins@energex.com.au) Received: by bastion.energex.com.au; (8.8.8/GJW030998a) id JAA30603; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:03:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from newman.energex.com.au(147.209.206.13) by bastion.energex.com.au via smap (smtp gateway apd20000403a) id xma014528; Fri, 20 Apr 01 09:03:04 +1000 Received: from dux.seqeb.gov.au (unverified) by newman.seqeb.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with SMTP id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:03:03 +1000 Received: from ntco99.seqeb.gov.au by dux.seqeb.gov.au (8.8.8/apd19991206a) id JAA0000030525; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:03:00 +1000 (EST) Received: by ntco99.seqeb.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:02:59 +1000 Message-ID: From: COLLINS Patrick To: "'Patrick Calkins'" , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:02:56 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I really like the HP LC2000 or the LH3000, all the hardware is well supported by FreeBSD however HP make no claim to this effect. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Calkins [mailto:pcalkins@oemsupport.com] Sent: Friday, 20 April 2001 7:50 AM To: Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail); Freebsd-Questions (E-mail) Subject: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Have a quick (or not so quick) question: I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so money really isnt a concern. hehe Thanks for the input! Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email message (and any accompanying file attachments) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, please notify ENERGEX immediately and destroy any copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, alteration, disclosure or distribution of this email (including any attachments) by an unintended recipient is prohibited. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 16: 7:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E0A37B423; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:07:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E769855407; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C9451610; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:01:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: COLLINS Patrick Cc: 'Patrick Calkins' , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-20, COLLINS Patrick scribbled: # I really like the HP LC2000 or the LH3000, all the hardware is well # supported by FreeBSD however HP make no claim to this effect. I think they do that so they don't hurt their relationship with Microsoft and with their own HP-UX group :) -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 16:20:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC3B37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:20:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3JNIEp22761; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:18:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <02a401c0c926$d5035700$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Leif Neland" , References: Subject: Re: Building kernel without making .depend Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:16:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If I just change something in one source file, which doesn't change the > dependencies, is it possible to just compile that file, not remaing > .depends? > > /usr/src # make -DNOCLEAN kernel KERNCONF=MYCONFIG > > helps avoiding recompiling the entire kernel, but I'd like also avoiding > redoing .depends I commonly change into the kernel build directory (/usr/src/sys/compile/MYCONFIG) and issue a 'make' from there. This will pick up any changes that were made to dependent files, but won't redo the depends. > Is it also possible to avoid doing anything in modules? Yes, specify NO_MODULES=yes on the make command line, or add it to /etc/make.conf. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 16:38:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870B937B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:38:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3JNaXp22818 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:36:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <02d401c0c929$61915350$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: Subject: strange ifconfig up behaviour Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:35:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm running 4.3-RC (early April) and am seeing something I consider strange with ifconfig. For a card that's down: gabby# ifconfig rl0 rl0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:50:ba:51:53:11 media: autoselect (none) status: no carrier supported media: autoseleect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX And then up: gabby# ifconfig rl0 up gabby# ifconfig rl0 rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::250:baff:fe51:5311%rl0 prefixlen 64 tentative scopeid 0x1 ether 00:50:ba:51:53:11 media: autoselect (none) status: no carrier supported media: autoseleect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX How in the heck did this card magically get assigned an IPv6 address? Later, when I do an 'ifconfig rl0 down', the flags are changed, but the inet6 address stays, and I'm unable to remove the address from the interface. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 17:14:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314AA37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:14:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6000E6ACB8; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:44:04 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:44:04 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E4r_Thoren?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum raid 4.3 RC Message-ID: <20010420094404.I72816@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from t98pth@student.bth.se on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:43:20PM +0200 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 19 April 2001 at 13:43:20 +0200, Pär Thoren wrote: > Hi! > > after I upgraded to 4.3 RC i got some problem with vinum. > > z#>> vinum create /etc/vinum.conf > 1: drive d1 device /dev/wd1c > ** 1 Can't initialize drive d1: Inappropriate ioctl for device > 2: drive d2 device /dev/wd2c > ** 2 Can't initialize drive d2: Inappropriate ioctl for device > 3: drive d3 device /dev/wd3c > ** 3 Can't initialize drive d3: Inappropriate ioctl for device > Can't create /dev/vinum/: File exists > Can't create /dev/vinum/vol/: File exists > Can't get config for plex 0: Invalid argument > > > The vinum.conf looks like this: > > z# cat /etc/vinum.conf > drive d1 device /dev/wd1c > drive d2 device /dev/wd2c > drive d3 device /dev/wd3c This is an RTFM: DRIVE LAYOUT CONSIDERATIONS vinum drives are currently BSD disk partitions. They must be of type vinum in order to avoid overwriting data used for other purposes. Use disklabel -e to edit a partition type definition. The following display shows a typical partition layout as shown by disklabel: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 81920 344064 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 240*- 297*) b: 262144 81920 swap # (Cyl. 57*- 240*) c: 4226725 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 2955*) e: 81920 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 57*) f: 1900000 425984 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 297*- 1626*) g: 1900741 2325984 vinum 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 1626*- 2955*) In this example, partition g may be used as a vinum partition. Parti- tions a, e and f may be used as UFS file systems or ccd partitions. Par- tition b is a swap partition, and partition c represents the whole disk and should not be used for any other purpose. > volume big > plex org concat > sd length 0 drive d1 > sd length 0 drive d2 > sd length 0 drive d3 > > I´m using the old ata driver couse the new ones didn´t work. > This configuration worked with 4.2 It shouldn't have. I suppose I should add a better error message. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 17:32:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h013.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64C0D37B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:32:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otterr@telocity.com) Received: (cpmta 555 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 17:32:09 -0700 Received: from dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com (HELO zoso) (216.227.91.85) by smtp.telocity.com (209.228.33.220) with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 17:32:09 -0700 X-Sent: 20 Apr 2001 00:32:09 GMT From: "Otter" To: "'Francisco Puente (CEA)'" , "'Gustaf Tham'" , "'FreeBSD-questions'" Subject: RE: PCCARD-PCMCIA For Dummies -- where? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:32:01 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c0c931$51d94d70$1400a8c0@zoso> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <4526F8387AE6D311926C0008C75D2E37034EE371@eambant111.cea.ericsson.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Francisco Puente (CEA) Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:52 AM To: 'Gustaf Tham'; FreeBSD-questions Subject: RE: PCCARD-PCMCIA For Dummies -- where? what is good url for FreeBSD on Laptops?? Thanxs Francisco -----Original Message----- From: Gustaf Tham [mailto:gus@algonet.se] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:49 AM To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: PCCARD-PCMCIA For Dummies -- where? I've browsed and searched, but can't find anything for a newbie. I managed to get an Adaptec 1460 SCSI-card working, but I don't understand what I did :-) The PCMCIA page in the handbook is blank. Is there not somewhere a page with a few gentle words on the basic principles? Or perhaps a few cookbook-style examples. The PAO page is incomprehensible (to me), the FreeBSD on Laptops page is mostly surveys. This is kinda intimidating for a newcomer. Any input appreciated Gustaf Tham Sweden gus@algonet.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 17:59:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7A937B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:59:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([fec0::2e0:7dff:fe81:749d] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qPGl-000MG1-00; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:59:31 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3K0xUa98511; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:59:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:59:30 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Greg Lewis Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dialup only works from Windows Message-ID: <20010420015930.A44121@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <200104192236.IAA82479@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104192236.IAA82479@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lewis wrote: > Simply put, authentication only seems to work when using Windows dialup > networking. My fiancee's Win 95 and Win2k machines both happily connect. > However, when I try to connect using ppp I get an "Invalid user name/password > pair" message. I'm trying this using ppp interactively. I've verified the > correct username and password are being used, so thats not the > problem. Interestingly, I get the same problem trying to connect > interactively using Windows 95 Hyperterminal to dial in. Do you have a 'set login' line in ppp.conf? If you do try deleting it and letting it use PAP or CHAP for authentication. Maybe the ISP doesn't like scripted logins and only allows PAP/CHAP or something. Just a thought. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 18:12:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h008.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A62E37B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:12:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otterr@telocity.com) Received: (cpmta 15251 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 18:12:49 -0700 Received: from dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com (HELO zoso) (216.227.91.85) by smtp.telocity.com (209.228.33.214) with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 18:12:49 -0700 X-Sent: 20 Apr 2001 01:12:49 GMT From: "Otter" To: , Subject: remote SecureID authentication anyone? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:12:41 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c0c936$ffec3120$1400a8c0@zoso> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm looking to setup a machine in our office so a few of us can get in on a VPN for network access after hours from home. I've heard VPNs are possible. After discussing this with office management, they say the only way we can do this is to use security in addition to passwords. When I asked if our SecureID cards/keychains would work, they agreed on it. Now... has anyone got this setup or something similar? I looked on the mailing list archives with no luck... searched some web pages... I even remember ssh2 using it, but now I don't see any reference to it in the openssh or ssh2 makefiles. Answers and/or suggestions are greatly appreciated. -Otter p.s. if you're reading this from -security, please Cc: me, as I'm not subscribed to that list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 18:20:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A1D37B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:20:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from europax@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.12.186.185]) by femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010420012053.YUMZ22926.femail11.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:20:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3ADF9CE5.6E348F9B@home.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:20:21 -0700 From: Rob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Peck Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy , Vincent Poy , Charles Burns , lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD References: <001b01c0c8e3$a65f78e0$015778d8@sherline.net> <3ADF44B4.547DE65D@loudcloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hehehe, my Athlon 1.2Ghz DDR machine encodes mp3's 10 times faster than my 650mhz P3. Rob. Sean Peck wrote: > > I have been running AMD processors with both FreeBSD and BSDi for quite some > time now, and ATHLON is by far the better choice than the PIII or the P4. > > The only real issue with AMD is heat related they put out a lot of heat.. but > that's about the only "concern" and I have never had this be a problem. > > I would highly recommend purchasing AMD over any Intel offering in equivalent > cost. You will get far more bang for your buck with Athlon/Duron over anything > that Intel has in the price range, period. > > Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? > > > > > > > > This depends on what you plan to do. The general consensus among the > > > > hardware reviewers is that the Athlon is overall faster than any other > > x86 > > > > compatible CPU. > > > > > > Yep, that's what I read as well but are there any drawbacks to > > > being faster such as compatibilty and all that stuff? > > > > > > > The compatibility and all that stuff days of the K5 and K6 are long gone. > > Today, generally, if a cpu is x86 compatible, that's that. There are no > > compatibility issues with the Athlon. > > > > > > The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over > > the > > > > Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the > > Athlon. > > > > Could you explain this ? If you're comparing Thunderbirds to Coppermines, I > > didn't think that was the case. > > > > > > The Athlon has a superior floating point unit that is, in addition, more > > > > deeply pipelined. When using software that isn't optimized for any > > > > particular FPU, the Athlon is typically just under 30% faster. (Some > > > > examples of this can be seen on comparisons between the two at > > Anandtech) > > > > > > Yeah, that's what I am concerned about. It seems that most things > > > are optimized for the Intel CPU's. While the FPU is faster on the Athlon > > > than the Intel, what about the non-FPU area? > > > > In business applications benchmarks the Athlon always stomps the P3. > > > > > > The Athlon can take more advantage of higher memory bandwidth than the > > P3 > > > > (but probably not the P4), thus you can get a greater performance > > benefit in > > > > some cases using DDR RAM. > > > > > > Speaking about DDR RAM, what kind of performance hits would there > > > be using DDR versus non-DDR RAM? > > > > If I remember correctly, depending on the type the best SDRAM gets about 800 > > megs/sec. DDR SDRAM comes in two flavors, 1.6 gigs/sec and 2.1gigs/sec. > > > > > > The Athlon is much, much cheaper. Motherboards, however, are more > > expensive. > > > > The overall cost ends up lower with the Athlon, especially if you are > > > > considering the price/perormance ratio. > > > > > > Yeah, that's what I realized as well. It seems like the VIA and > > > AMD chipset based motherboards costs a lot more than the Intel variants. > > > > You can get an Athlon motherboard for $100. Even if the Intel motherboard > > was half that, at $50, the difference in the prices of the cpus is FAR more > > than $50. Up to $200 in the higher end processors. People always speak of > > the higher cost of Athlon motherboards but I don't see the point if the AMD > > cpu is 40% cheaper and the difference in motherboard prices is relatively > > pennies when you're speaking of a multi-hundred dollar purchase. > > > > > Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those. I guess I just wanted to > > > know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it > > > under Windows. > > > > It's the same. If the code is written and compiled properly, the difference > > should be seen in all OSes. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > Garbage Collection... the bell bottoms of programming.. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 18:31:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.viasoft.com.cn (unknown [61.153.1.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8826A37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:31:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsddiy@163.net) Received: from William ([192.168.1.98]) by mail.viasoft.com.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13199; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:29:22 +0800 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:37:19 +0800 From: David Xu X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: bsddiy@163.net Organization: Viasoft X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <391537300.20010420093719@163.net> To: "Tim Strike" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.3-RC1 && omniORB && longjmp()'ing problems In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Tim, Friday, April 20, 2001, 3:56:08 AM, you wrote: TS> Recently installed 4.3-RC1 and have run into some problems with CORBA TS> Servers built with OmniORB 3.0.3 -- these servers start-up okay, but when a TS> client calls the emit TS> Fatal error 'longjmp()ing between thread contexts is undefined by POSIX TS> 1003.1' at line ? in file /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_jmp.c (errno = TS> ?) TS> and die. This wasn't the case with 4.2 from ~ Janurary. I'm not sure if TS> this is a kernel problem, a gcc problem (2.95.3 vs 2.95.2), an omniorb TS> problem, or quite frankly, one of our developers problems. Has anyone else TS> experienced any difficulties / have any insight before I start an error TS> reporting process? TS> -- TS> Tim Strike (tstrike@targetnet.com) TS> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org TS> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Could you recompile omni server? I know there is something changed in 4.3RC libc_r. -- Best regards, David Xu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 18:33:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB52837B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:33:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BE406ACBA; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:03:08 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:03:08 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Michael Lucas Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top & SMPng Message-ID: <20010420110308.E72002@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010419150502.A49345@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010419150502.A49345@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:05:02PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 19 April 2001 at 15:05:02 -0400, Michael Lucas wrote: > Hello, > > I just picked up a dual PIII-1Ghz system, and loaded FreeBSD-current > on it. > > I build a SMP kernel. > > Oddly, whenever I do anything resource-intensive "i.e., make world", a > top -S shows both CPUs about 50% idle. > > Is top wrong, or is there something else I should look at? 'make world' will do one thing at a time. In order to utilize more than one CPU, you'll need to run 'make world -j2'. This runs two concurrent makes. In fact, it tends to work better with -j4. last pid: 5009; load averages: 2.05, 0.97, 0.40 up 0+19:02:04 11:01:51 83 processes: 6 running, 59 sleeping, 17 waiting, 1 mutex CPU states: 85.2% user, 0.0% nice, 13.7% system, 1.2% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 21M Active, 64M Inact, 24M Wired, 6260K Cache, 22M Buf, 4892K Free Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 10 root -16 0 0K 0K RUN 1 18.9H 49.22% 49.22% idle: cpu1 11 root -16 0 0K 0K RUN 0 18.9H 48.24% 48.24% idle: cpu0 20 root -68 -187 0K 0K WAIT 1 0:21 4.88% 4.88% irq3: dc0 4992 root 129 0 2824K 2708K RUN 1 0:01 26.65% 2.54% cc1 12 root -44 -163 0K 0K WAIT 1 0:16 1.71% 1.71% swi1: net 4998 root 129 0 2856K 2740K CPU0 1 0:01 32.00% 1.56% cc1 4936 root 4 0 1360K 944K select 1 0:00 2.69% 0.49% make 4990 root -8 0 752K 612K pipdwt 1 0:00 4.10% 0.39% cpp0 5006 root 128 0 2676K 2556K pipdwt 0 0:00 7.00% 0.34% cc1 153 root 8 0 212K 32K nfsidl 0 0:01 0.20% 0.20% nfsiod 4994 root -8 0 872K 732K piperd 0 0:00 1.54% 0.15% as 13 root -48 -167 0K 0K WAIT 1 2:12 0.05% 0.05% swi6: tty:sio+ 1439 root 4 0 1356K 904K select 1 0:01 0.05% 0.05% make 5 root 20 0 0K 0K syncer 0 0:24 0.00% 0.00% syncer 127 root 4 0 1036K 640K select 1 0:24 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 22 root -64 -183 0K 0K WAIT 0 0:14 0.00% 0.00% irq11: atapci1+ 135 root 4 -12 1348K 652K select 0 0:06 0.00% 0.00% ntpd 312 grog 4 0 3964K 2964K select 0 0:02 0.00% 0.00% xterm 4 root -16 0 0K 0K psleep 1 0:01 0.00% 0.00% bufdaemon 1428 root -8 0 976K 376K piperd 1 0:01 0.00% 0.00% tee 1836 root 76 0 2012K 1080K CPU1 0 0:01 0.00% 0.00% top 1501 root 4 0 1324K 872K select 1 0:01 0.00% 0.00% make The fact that the idle processes are showing as the most active processes is because of the weighting over a period of time. At the time I took this snapshot, the most active processes were the C compilers. Note that this is not related to SMPng. If it were, I would have referred you to -CURRENT. You shouldn't be asking questions about -CURRENT on this mailing list. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 18:39:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dualcpus.com (dualcpus.com [65.160.20.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81B0F37B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgowdy@home.com) Received: (qmail 21490 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2001 01:39:11 -0000 Received: from cx443070-b.vista1.sdca.home.com (HELO cx443070b) (24.0.36.170) by dualcpus.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 01:39:11 -0000 Message-ID: <006901c0c93b$1f0e7af0$aa240018@cx443070b> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Rob" , "Sean Peck" Cc: "Vincent Poy" , "Charles Burns" , , , , , References: <001b01c0c8e3$a65f78e0$015778d8@sherline.net> <3ADF44B4.547DE65D@loudcloud.com> <3ADF9CE5.6E348F9B@home.com> Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:42:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hehehe, my Athlon 1.2Ghz DDR machine encodes mp3's 10 times faster than > my 650mhz P3. Rob. My Athlon 1.0 Ghz CAS2 PC-133 machine encodes mp3s 100,000,000,000 times faster than my 386 sx 16 mhz !!! In fact, my Athlon 1.0 Ghz encodes mp3s 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 times faster than my Casio Calculator !!! Plus my fingers don't get as tired ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 18:40:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f196.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F413437B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:40:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from josh_gregory05@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:40:48 -0700 Received: from 208.50.80.71 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:40:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.50.80.71] From: "josh gregory" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: question Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:40:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 01:40:48.0012 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC89E4C0:01C0C93A] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

What would one want to determine by using this command in FreeBSD?

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 19: 8:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe4.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF7F37B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from default013@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:08:20 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [63.249.129.10] Reply-To: "default013" From: "default013" To: Subject: re-compiling sendmail Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:15:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 02:08:20.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5794BB0:01C0C93E] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone know where the directories are where I can re-compile the sendmail that FreeBSD comes with? I'm stumped! Particularly, I need to create a site.config.m4 file, and re-compile sendmail... I tried /usr/src/contrib/sendmail because thats where it looks like most files are, but... no build file there... Thanks! Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 19:21:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nebula.anchoragerescue.org (cable-115-7-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.7.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F2737B43F for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:21:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akbeech@anchoragerescue.org) Received: from galaxy.anchoragerescue.org (galaxy.anchoragerescue.org [24.237.7.95]) by nebula.anchoragerescue.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A23FD3FC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:21:36 -0800 (AKDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Beech Rintoul To: "default013" , Subject: Re: re-compiling sendmail Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:21:36 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041918213600.37259@galaxy.anchoragerescue.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday 19 April 2001 18:15, default013 wrote: > Anyone know where the directories are where I can re-compile the sendmail > that FreeBSD comes with? I'm stumped! > > Particularly, I need to create a site.config.m4 file, and re-compile > sendmail... > > I tried /usr/src/contrib/sendmail because thats where it looks like most > files are, but... no build file there... > > Thanks! Jordan Look in: /usr/ports/mail/sendmail Beech ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - IT Manager - Instructor - akbeech@anchoragerescue.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Anchorage Gospel Rescue Mission \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | P.O. Box 230510 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99523-0510 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 19:21:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from out-mta3.plasa.com (out-mta3.plasa.com [202.134.0.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B48C37B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:21:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from q2001@plasa.com) Received: out-mta3.plasa.com; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:16:06 +0700 Received: from [192.168.19.56] (account ) by mail.plasa.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 3.4.4) with HTTP id 447510 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:21:42 +0700 From: "q" Subject: IP forwarding route To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.4 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:21:42 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How to make A & D can communicate each others ? Assume : A : 192.168.0.1 B : 192.168.0.2 C : 192.168.0.3 D : 192.168.0.4 +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ | | | | | | | A+-----+B C+----+D | | | | | | | +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ I was add /etc/rc.conf with 4 lines below : gateway_enable="YES" router_enable="YES" router="routed" router_flags="-s" But It can't works. Wish advice from all of you. Thank's QA ------------------------------------------------------------------ Email ini dikirim oleh PlasaCom : http://www.plasa.com Cepat di-download via TelkomNet Instan http://www.plasa.com/instan Rindukah Anda bertemu dengan ex teman-teman satu sekolah dulu ? Kunjungilah mereka (47.033 anggota) di KSI : http://ksi.plasa.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 19:42:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nameserver.austclear.com.au (nameserver.austclear.com.au [192.83.119.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E3B37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:42:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahl@austclear.com.au) Received: from tungsten.austclear.com.au (tungsten.austclear.com.au [192.168.70.1]) by nameserver.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA64585; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:42:26 +1000 (EST) Received: from tungsten (tungsten [192.168.70.1]) by tungsten.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08441; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:42:26 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200104200242.MAA08441@tungsten.austclear.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "q" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IP forwarding route In-Reply-To: Message from "q" of "Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:21:42 +0700." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:42:25 +1000 From: Tony Landells Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > How to make A & D can communicate each others ? > Assume : > A : 192.168.0.1 > B : 192.168.0.2 > C : 192.168.0.3 > D : 192.168.0.4 > +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ > | | | | | | > | A+-----+B C+----+D | > | | | | | | > +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ > I was add /etc/rc.conf with 4 lines below : > gateway_enable="YES" > router_enable="YES" > router="routed" > router_flags="-s" The only way this will possibly work (with these IP addresses) is if the box in the middle is configured to do bridging. If you want to make this work at the IP layer, you need to change the IP addresses to, for example: A : 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.252 B : 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.252 C : 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.252 D : 192.168.0.6 netmask 255.255.255.252 to make it clear you're running two segments. Then, assuming you're running dynamic routing on all three boxes they should be able to talk. If, however, you're only running routed on the middle box, then you'll need to add either a default gateway or a static route on the outer two boxes to tell them to use the middle box. Tony -- Tony Landells Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 Level 4, Rialto North Tower 525 Collins Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 19:43:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943F637B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3K3ohK91901; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:50:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:50:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: q Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IP forwarding route In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, q wrote: > How to make A & D can communicate each others ? > > Assume : > A : 192.168.0.1 > B : 192.168.0.2 > C : 192.168.0.3 > D : 192.168.0.4 > > +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ > | | | | | | > | A+-----+B C+----+D | > | | | | | | > +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ Your IP scheme is the problem. You are using an unrouteable IP scheme because of the IP ranges's you chose. The only way that would work is if the middle machine is running in bridging mode. If you want to route between the middle machine, change C to 192.168.0.5 and D to 192.168.0.6 and set the netmask on A,B,C,D to 255.255.255.252. > > I was add /etc/rc.conf with 4 lines below : > > gateway_enable="YES" > router_enable="YES" > router="routed" > router_flags="-s" Depending on your default routes, you may not have to run routed. If the default gateway on A = B and default gateway on D = C, then there is no need to run routed. Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 19:46:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F86937B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:46:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f3K2jao66136; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:45:36 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:45:36 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: q Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IP forwarding route Message-ID: <20010420144536.A64688@itouchnz.itouch> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from q2001@plasa.com on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 09:21:42AM +0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 09:21:42AM +0700, q wrote: > How to make A & D can communicate each others ? > > Assume : > A : 192.168.0.1 > B : 192.168.0.2 > C : 192.168.0.3 > D : 192.168.0.4 > > +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ > | | | | | | > | A+-----+B C+----+D | > | | | | | | > +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ > > I was add /etc/rc.conf with 4 lines below : > > gateway_enable="YES" > router_enable="YES" > router="routed" > router_flags="-s" For one, your IP allocations aren't good (not unless you're doing bridging, which I suspect you're not). There are 2 seperate networks involved in your diagram above, and not 1 as your IP allocations would suggest. If you put C & D on a different network, eg: 192.168.1.x; things will work as expected. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- When all else fails, RTFM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 19:54:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from out4.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (out4.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net [169.207.1.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9508937B423; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:54:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpoland@execpc.com) Received: from earth.execpc.com (dpoland@earth.execpc.com [169.207.16.1]) by out4.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3K2sQg87513; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:54:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dpoland@localhost) by earth.execpc.com (8.9.0) id VAA12023; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:54:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:54:26 -0500 From: Doug Poland To: Patrick Calkins Cc: "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20010419215425.A11628@polands.org> Mail-Followup-To: Patrick Calkins , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" References: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:50:18PM -0700, Patrick Calkins wrote: > Have a quick (or not so quick) question: > > I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database > servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). > The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a > FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more > than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD > and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux > either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with > it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) > support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware > that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, > reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, > clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could > help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I > noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used > FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD > if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so > money really isnt a concern. > You might want to take a look at Apache Digital (http://www.apache.com) I bought an Athalon workstation from them a few months back and am well pleased. -- Regards, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 20:14:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540A337B424; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3K3EQM55971; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:14:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:14:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Brennan Stehling To: Doug Poland Cc: Patrick Calkins , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <20010419215425.A11628@polands.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have not followed this whole thread much, but I did purchase a Dell PowerEdge a while back and put FreeBSD on it. It has been great. It has a hardware RAID system which is very well supported by FreeBSD and everything else works as you would expect. When you look info the Dell hardware you can check for yourself if it is compatible. Part by part you should be able to figure it out. Brennan Stehling - software developer and system administrator my projects: home.offwhite.net (free personal hosting) www.greasydaemon.com (bsd search) On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Doug Poland wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:50:18PM -0700, Patrick Calkins wrote: > > Have a quick (or not so quick) question: > > > > I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database > > servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). > > The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a > > FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more > > than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD > > and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux > > either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with > > it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) > > support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware > > that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, > > reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, > > clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could > > help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I > > noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used > > FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD > > if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so > > money really isnt a concern. > > > You might want to take a look at Apache Digital (http://www.apache.com) > I bought an Athalon workstation from them a few months back and am well > pleased. > > -- > Regards, > Doug > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 20:20:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe11.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B2937B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:20:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from default013@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:20:42 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [63.249.129.10] Reply-To: "default013" From: "default013" To: Subject: re-compiling sendmail Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:27:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 03:20:42.0238 (UTC) FILETIME=[E16031E0:01C0C948] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, the port isnt really what I want either... it installs over the default install for some reason and doesn't work quite right... I will probably go back to what i used to do which I know works, which is install my own sendmail from sendmail.org in the /usr/local directory... does anyone know if there is any problem with this(installing the regular sendmail)? is there any way to de-install the default bsd sendmail? thanks... On Thursday 19 April 2001 18:15, default013 wrote: > Anyone know where the directories are where I can re-compile the sendmail > that FreeBSD comes with? I'm stumped! > > Particularly, I need to create a site.config.m4 file, and re-compile > sendmail... > > I tried /usr/src/contrib/sendmail because thats where it looks like most > files are, but... no build file there... > > Thanks! Jordan Look in: /usr/ports/mail/sendmail Beech ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - IT Manager - Instructor - akbeech@anchoragerescue.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Anchorage Gospel Rescue Mission \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | P.O. Box 230510 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99523-0510 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 20:29:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F26237B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Received: from DougBarton.net (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA42908; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:28:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Message-ID: <3ADFACF2.4041AD06@DougBarton.net> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:28:50 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Lee, Jaeho" Cc: "'Ted Mittelstaedt'" , Christopher Farley , Graywane , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: does upsd support BACK-UPS from APC References: <857F15D7E3D8D3118D290008C7CF058602C9767D@mail-naeast1.brooks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Lee, Jaeho" wrote: > > Thanks for the all the response... I learned a lot. > > I have another question. This is off topic actually, please bear with me. > > I selected nut, simply because of the functionality (fancy CGI...) > But my ups did not send the correct signal to my FreeBSD box. > It was because of the cable. My BACK-UPS 300va did not come with serial > cable. Call APC, give them the serial number of your back-ups and they will send you a cable for free. The details are on the web page. -- "One thing they don't tell you about doing experimental physics is that sometimes you must work under adverse conditions ... like a state of sheer terror." -- W. K. Hartmann Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 20:31:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A70037B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:31:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from RonDzierwa@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.3.55.231]) by femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010420033126.QSYU11650.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:31:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3ADFADA7.33A7205E@home.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:31:51 -0400 From: Ron Dzierwa Organization: Innovative Engineering, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andreas Hofer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install problems References: <200104190820.KAA21959@KOMSERVER.dsa-ac.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andreas, I've dug into this one fairly deeply. I also thought about putting in the old tried and true wd driver, but didn't think it would work with the new kernel. The fact that you got it to work is great, but, I think the install is looking for ad disks, not wd's so it still, sadly, finds none. Maybe you could play some games with the major device number that the wd driver uses - make it appear to be the ad driver.... the ctx laptop i'm using is not really that old. I bought it new at the end of 1998. The problem seems to be in a routine (pci_get_progif) that reads one of the registers from one of the pci chips. It seems that it is returning a value that the ata driver does not recognize, and thinks that the ide controller that it is configuring is not a "master" device, and switches them from ata0 and 1 to ata2 and 3. There is a conditional at the top of ata_all.c that defines a macro which returns true or false depending upon the return value of get_progif. As an experiment, I dummied out the macro to always return true and the whole thing seemed to work. I can't seem to make the kernel work with the install procedure - it gets through the boot and complains that init is missing... how did you build a kernel that is compatible with the install environment? ron. Andreas Hofer wrote: > Hi, Ron, hi list, > > unfortunately I cannot help you very much. Just wanted to tell you > that you are not alone: > > I tried to install 4.1 (and 4.2) on a rather outdated notebook > (Oxford Artist, more or less identical to ACER notebook), facing > exactly the same problem as you. The standard install kernel did'nt > work at all. > > I then built a customized kernel with the older wd* devices and > copied it over to the boot floppy. The kernel recognizes the > controller, the disk and everything looks fine, but the installer > still sees no disk. > > Maybe the installer is looking for the wrong nodes in /dev? Anybody > there who knows a way to get the installer recognize the wd* devices? > > Andreas > > ============================================== > > Ron Dzierwa wrote: > > I have a CTX EzBook 800 series on which I have used FreeBSD version > 2.2.6 since that version was current. At the time I had to use some > of the PAO stuff to get the pcmcia enet to work, but everything else > seemed to work > > fine. > > I just bought a new disk, and figured i'd install 4.2. The ata driver > does not seem to live happily with the disk controller, however. and > even the floppy driver seems to be having a problem (fdc0: cannot > reserve I/O port range). The ata driver says: atapci0: ATA controller> port 0xfcf0-0xfcff,0x374-0x377,0x170-0x177 > ,0x2f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 18.1 on pci0 atapci0: Busmastering > DMA not supported ata2: at 0x1f0 on atapci0 ata2: unable to allocate > interrupt device_probe_and_attach: ata2 attach returned 6 ata3: at > 0x170 on atapci0 ata3: unable to allocate interrupt > device_probe_and_attach: ata3 attach returned 6 > > later on, when the sysinstall menu comes up and i try to allocate disk > space it naturally tells me that there are no disks. > > the old kernel wd driver used to say: > wdc0: at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > wd0: 3102MB 96354432 sectors), 6304 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/t, 512 B/s > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): CD-ROM XM-1602B/1150>, removable, accel, dma, ior . .. > > I have tried enabling and disabling PNP in the bios, and using > auto/user config for the disks. all combinations seem to yield the > same results - it cant init the disk controllers. > > I have another FreeBSD system that I use as a workstation. I used it > to build a kernel for the boot flop that would stop in the fd driver ( > while(1) i++; makes an effective stopper) so that I could see the ata > driver messages. If anybody has any fixes or suggestions, I could > implement them and test them without any problem. > > any and all help is appreciated. I really would like to use 4.2 > rather than going back to the old 2.2.6! > > thanks, > ron. > --- > DSA - Daten- und Systemtechnik GmbH > Dr. Ing. Andreas Hofer > Pascalstrasse 28 > 52076 Aachen- Oberforstbach > Tel. : 0 24 08 - 94 92 43 > FAX : 0 24 08 - 94 92 92 > EMAIL: Andreas.Hofer@dsa-ac.de > --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 20:44: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nameserver.austclear.com.au (nameserver.austclear.com.au [192.83.119.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3811B37B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:44:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahl@austclear.com.au) Received: from tungsten.austclear.com.au (tungsten.austclear.com.au [192.168.70.1]) by nameserver.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA64861; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:43:58 +1000 (EST) Received: from tungsten (tungsten [192.168.70.1]) by tungsten.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09688; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:43:58 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200104200343.NAA09688@tungsten.austclear.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "default013" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: re-compiling sendmail In-Reply-To: Message from "default013" of "Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:27:32 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:43:58 +1000 From: Tony Landells Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not sure I understand what you think is missing from the sendmail distribution in /usr/src/contrib. Mind you, I haven't tried building just that, but there is a top-level Makefile which is based on the BSD Make, as is the FreeBSD stuff, so I would have thought it included all the necessary "localisations" for FreeBSD during the make process. And that Makefile invokes "Build" in each subdirectory which will incorporate your site.config.m4... Does it not just work the way you'd expect? Tony -- Tony Landells Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 Level 4, Rialto North Tower 525 Collins Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 21:11: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27F737B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:10:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net) Received: from mark9 (hutch-631.hutchtel.net [206.10.68.159]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA09455; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:10:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002201c0ca19$2883e6e0$6100000a@vladsempire.net> From: "Josh Paetzel" To: "Steven D. Smith" Cc: References: <200104191337.JAA28076@gate1.health.state.ny.us> Subject: Re: ATI Radeon VE and Xfree 4.0.3 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:09:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C9EF.03C3BC60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C9EF.03C3BC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven D. Smith" To: "Josh Paetzel" Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: Re: ATI Radeon VE and Xfree 4.0.3 > > > I'm having a similar problem... I just havn't had anytime to work on it... Oh... > but I using Suse 7.0... not Freebsd on this box... But if you can get it > working, I'll switch this box too! > > Hmmm, I've got mine working now, but it's not for the faint of heart. ;) I found some patches that you can apply to X to get it to work, although the patches didn't go the way the author said they would, I suspect it's because he was on a linux box and I am on FreeBSD. Sorry about the wierd formats and stuff here, but I had to grab my mail from a windows box and stuff, so some of this is all b0rked up. Apply the radeon_driver.c.txt patch first, then the radeon_driver.c2.txt patch next. These patches are applied to /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/a ti/radeon_driver.c Then do radeon_probe.c.txt. The file is in the same directory as above. I couldn't find a radeon_screen.c on my system, but it seems to work fine without it. Lastly you can do xf86PciInfo.h.txt to /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf 86PciInfo.h To get it all to go I did a make deinstall and then a make reinstall. I haven't played with getting the second display running as of yet, but putting in driver "radeon" into my xconfig was all I needed to get the Xserver to start with my new card. Hope this helps. Sorry for the ugly formatting and so forth. Josh ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C9EF.03C3BC60 Content-Type: text/plain; name="radeon_driver.c.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="radeon_driver.c.txt" --- = xc-original/xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/radeon_driver.c= Thu Apr 5 18:16:11 2001 +++ xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/radeon_driver.c Fri = Apr 6 16:06:37 2001 @@ -855,6 +855,7 @@ case PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QE: case PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QF: case PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QG: + case PCI_CHIP_RADEON_VE: default: info->HasPanelRegs =3D FALSE; break; } #endif @@ -946,6 +947,7 @@ case PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QE: case PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QF: case PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QG: + case PCI_CHIP_RADEON_VE: default: info->IsPCI =3D FALSE; break; } } ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C9EF.03C3BC60 Content-Type: text/plain; name="radeon_driver.c2.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="radeon_driver.c2.txt" --- = xc-original/xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/radeon_driver.c= Sun Apr 15 01:54:05 2001 +++ xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/radeon_driver.c = Sun Apr 15 01:53:32 2001 @@ -2386,7 +2386,11 @@ ? RADEON_CRTC_INTERLACE_EN : 0)); =20 - save->crtc_ext_cntl =3D RADEON_VGA_ATI_LINEAR | RADEON_XCRT_CNT_EN; + if (info->Chipset =3D=3D PCI_CHIP_RADEON_VE) { + save->crtc_ext_cntl =3D RADEON_VGA_ATI_LINEAR | = RADEON_CRTC_CRT_ON; + } else { + save->crtc_ext_cntl =3D RADEON_VGA_ATI_LINEAR | = RADEON_XCRT_CNT_EN; + } save->dac_cntl =3D (RADEON_DAC_MASK_ALL | RADEON_DAC_VGA_ADR_EN | (info->dac6bits ? 0 : RADEON_DAC_8BIT_EN)); ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C9EF.03C3BC60 Content-Type: text/plain; name="radeon_probe.c.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="radeon_probe.c.txt" --- = xc-original/xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/radeon_probe.c = Mon Mar 19 16:39:08 2001 +++ xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/radeon_probe.c Fri Apr = 6 16:07:29 2001 @@ -52,6 +52,7 @@ { PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QE, "ATI Radeon QE (AGP)" }, { PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QF, "ATI Radeon QF (AGP)" }, { PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QG, "ATI Radeon QG (AGP)" }, + { PCI_CHIP_RADEON_VE, "ATI Radeon VE (AGP)" }, { -1, NULL } }; =20 @@ -60,6 +61,7 @@ { PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QE, PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QE, RES_SHARED_VGA }, { PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QF, PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QF, RES_SHARED_VGA }, { PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QG, PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QG, RES_SHARED_VGA }, + { PCI_CHIP_RADEON_VE, PCI_CHIP_RADEON_VE, RES_SHARED_VGA }, { -1, -1, RES_UNDEFINED } }; =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C9EF.03C3BC60 Content-Type: text/plain; name="radeon_screen.c.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="radeon_screen.c.txt" --- xc-original/xc/xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/radeon/radeon_screen.c Wed Mar = 14 19:23:27 2001 +++ xc/xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/radeon/radeon_screen.c Fri Apr 6 16:05:25 = 2001 @@ -51,6 +51,7 @@ #define PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QE 0x5145 #define PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QF 0x5146 #define PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QG 0x5147 +#define PCI_CHIP_RADEON_VE 0x5159 #endif =20 =20 @@ -122,6 +123,7 @@ case PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QE: case PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QF: case PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QG: + case PCI_CHIP_RADEON_VE: radeonScreen->chipset =3D RADEON_CARD_TYPE_RADEON; break; default: ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C9EF.03C3BC60 Content-Type: text/plain; name="xf86PciInfo.h.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xf86PciInfo.h.txt" --- xc-original/xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf86PciInfo.h = Mon Mar 19 16:39:06 2001 +++ xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf86PciInfo.h Fri Apr 6 = 16:07:50 2001 @@ -238,6 +238,7 @@ #define PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QE 0x5145 #define PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QF 0x5146 #define PCI_CHIP_RADEON_QG 0x5147 +#define PCI_CHIP_RADEON_VE 0x5159 #define PCI_CHIP_RAGE128RE 0x5245 #define PCI_CHIP_RAGE128RF 0x5246 #define PCI_CHIP_RAGE128RG 0x5247 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C9EF.03C3BC60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 21:21:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe22.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7CA37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:21:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from default013@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:21:17 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [24.14.93.185] Reply-To: "default013" From: "default013" To: "Tony Landells" Cc: References: <200104200343.NAA09688@tungsten.austclear.com.au> Subject: Re: re-compiling sendmail Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:21:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 04:21:17.0287 (UTC) FILETIME=[5808A770:01C0C951] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I try to make /usr/src/contrib, i get an error 'cannot find Build file'. ... (which is correct because there is no build file) And I have tried every other sendmail Make file in the /usr directory tree as well, some of them install libraries, some install includes etc... I would think that there is a way to re-compile the original sendmail application that is on the server so that one could configure it to their specifications but... I have been unsuccessful in finding a way that works. and another thing is that the site.config.m4 that I need to use is normally in sendmail/devtools/Site, ... which is not included in /usr/src/contrib/sendmail for some reason... there may be another place to put it... but... it doesnt say how, and I could find nothing in the freebsd website either... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Landells" To: "default013" Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:43 PM Subject: Re: re-compiling sendmail > I'm not sure I understand what you think is missing from the sendmail > distribution in /usr/src/contrib. > > Mind you, I haven't tried building just that, but there is a top-level > Makefile which is based on the BSD Make, as is the FreeBSD stuff, so > I would have thought it included all the necessary "localisations" > for FreeBSD during the make process. > > And that Makefile invokes "Build" in each subdirectory which will > incorporate your site.config.m4... > > Does it not just work the way you'd expect? > > Tony > -- > Tony Landells > Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 > Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 > Level 4, Rialto North Tower > 525 Collins Street > Melbourne VIC 3000 > Australia > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 21:24:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fbsd.bosa.ca (cr1003901-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.37.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCF037B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kulraj@bosa.ca) Received: from ska1 (h207-230-227-196.dccnet.com [207.230.227.196]) by fbsd.bosa.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id CDDEC158EB9; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005e01c0c952$22d8aae0$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> From: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" , "Vincent Poy" , "Charles Burns" Cc: References: <001b01c0c8e3$a65f78e0$015778d8@sherline.net> Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:26:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those. I guess I just wanted to >> know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it >> under Windows. >It's the same. If the code is written and compiled properly, the difference >should be seen in all OSes. Slightly of topic, couldn't resist : Toms Hardware conducts a linux kernel compile in one of their benchmarks. If we have any Intel lovers out there please put you hands over your ears for the rest of this...... Their kernel compile test they find always fails on overclocked CPU's that is why the concluded that the Intel Pentium III 1133MHz CPU was essentially an overclocked 850MHz CPU. This if I remember right has been recalled and never re-released. I could find the link to Tom's archive covering this, it really is quite amusing. Sat Siri Akal, Kulraj To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 21:34:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe2.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.16.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CE137B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:34:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shanzely@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:34:30 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [62.100.197.5] From: "Eqab almutairi" To: Subject: Hello Sir/Madam Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:29:40 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C96B.A956DE20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 04:34:30.0488 (UTC) FILETIME=[30D18580:01C0C953] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C96B.A956DE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello sir/madam soon we gonna open site on the net for markting spicaly on kuwait = contry dont know if you allowed us to sell The freebsd cds or not thanks almutairi ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C96B.A956DE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C96B.A956DE20-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 21:34:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fbsd.bosa.ca (cr1003901-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.37.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C09537B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:34:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kulraj@bosa.ca) Received: from ska1 (h207-230-227-196.dccnet.com [207.230.227.196]) by fbsd.bosa.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AD87158EB9; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00d201c0c953$9e5960a0$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> From: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" Cc: References: <3ADF58E1.3660FD8E@loudcloud.com> <000f01c0c917$fd6465e0$015778d8@sherline.net> Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:37:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Something we did several months ago : FreeBSD make buildworld 4.2 (cvsup) Virtually identical machines, three different CPU's Duron 700 66min PIII 700 65min Athlon 700 55min The surprising factor to me was not that the Athlon was easily the fastest at this task (I expected that), but that the Duron performed so exceptionally well compared to the PIII which at the time was three times the cost! Regards, Kulraj > > I don't know if the DURON is faster when overclocked, I personally stay > away from > > overclocking, I don't need it. > > I doubt if the Duron is faster overclocked or underclocked. It's just the > Thunderbird with less cache. Less cache != faster (at the same cache speed) > as far as I've ever known. > > > The only differences between the Athlon and the Duron is on chip cache, > and speeds > > of the front side bus, if I am not mistaken. > > > > Athlons have larger L2 Cache I believe than the Durons, > > That is the only difference. > > > and are available with up to a 200MHZ bus. > > They both have a 200mhz bus. Not up to, but 200mhz. > > The FSB is 100 or 133 in both. (Not talking about DDR and new boards) > > Just say it this way, "Duron is a Thunderbird with less cache". > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 21:35:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from laxmls03.socal.rr.com (laxmls03.socal.rr.com [24.30.163.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F76337B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:35:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwalker@cwalk.org) Received: from cwalk.org (sc-24-24-206-138.socal.rr.com [24.24.206.138]) by laxmls03.socal.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3K4Zas18431; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ramon (oscar [192.168.1.39]) by cwalk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA04106; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwalker@cwalk.org) Message-ID: <00d601c0c952$e9769d60$2701a8c0@cwalk.org> From: "Caleb Walker" To: "Brent" , References: <005f01c0c910$28520ee0$3ab4a8c0@kronos> Subject: Re: gre-tunneling help Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:32:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What are you trying to do? Are you trying to allowVPN through your network? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: gre-tunneling help > Im using a 4.1 FreeBSD box w/ NAT ..i need to gre-tunneling to work .the > howto im reading says there has to be at least 1 "tun" interface in the > down state....when i do a "ifconfig -a " tun isnt in there ...how do i > get the tun interface to be in "ifconfig" ? > ..when i look in > /dev > > tun0 tun1 tun2 all are in there... > > so i dont think i have to do ./MAKEDEV.. > how do i get it to show w/ ifconfig ?? did i miss something ?? > TIA ........any help is really appreciated > Brent > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 21:38: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from laxmls03.socal.rr.com (laxmls03.socal.rr.com [24.30.163.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DE637B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:37:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwalker@cwalk.org) Received: from cwalk.org (sc-24-24-206-138.socal.rr.com [24.24.206.138]) by laxmls03.socal.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3K4bws18632; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ramon (oscar [192.168.1.39]) by cwalk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA04118; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:37:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwalker@cwalk.org) Message-ID: <00e201c0c953$3e65a050$2701a8c0@cwalk.org> From: "Caleb Walker" To: "Chris Byrnes" , References: Subject: Re: Virtual POP3s with sendmail Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:34:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As far as I know sendmail doesnt do POP3 only SMTP. Are you looking for another program to do your pop? I would actually use qmail to do it all. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Byrnes" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: Virtual POP3s with sendmail > Is anyone aware of a FAQ that tells how to do virtual POP3s with sendmail? > > > Chris Byrnes, chris@JEAH.net > JEAH Communications, http://www.JEAH.net > 608.244.9525 (Toll), 1.866.AWW.JEAH (Toll-Free) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 21:39:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nameserver.austclear.com.au (nameserver.austclear.com.au [192.83.119.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A3037B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:39:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahl@austclear.com.au) Received: from tungsten.austclear.com.au (tungsten.austclear.com.au [192.168.70.1]) by nameserver.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA65192; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:39:37 +1000 (EST) Received: from tungsten (tungsten [192.168.70.1]) by tungsten.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11109; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:39:37 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200104200439.OAA11109@tungsten.austclear.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "default013" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: re-compiling sendmail In-Reply-To: Message from "default013" of "Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:21:22 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:39:37 +1000 From: Tony Landells Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oh, okay. I see there's a FREEBSD-upgrade file that says that a number of things were changed for the FreeBSD release, including all the Build files and renaming the "sendmail" directory to "src", so yes the Makefile is going to be totally stuffed. I guess that means you can only build it by starting in /usr/src and doing "make buildworld". That kind of sucks... I'm sure I've missed something--can someone who knows how to make this work please step forward? Tony -- Tony Landells Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 Level 4, Rialto North Tower 525 Collins Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 21:51: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from benny.geektank.org (00-04-ac-38-0e-e8.bconnected.net [209.53.63.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3702237B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:51:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by benny.geektank.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3K4oKp71375; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: benny.geektank.org: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:50:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow X-X-Sender: To: Leif Neland Cc: Subject: Re: ARP message filling my logs In-Reply-To: <028001c0c857$8350e280$6405a8c0@neland.dk> Message-ID: <20010419214912.G71356-100000@benny.geektank.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Leif Neland wrote: > > > > > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.1 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > > > > > > on fxp0 > > > > > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe to 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 > > > > > > on fxp0 > > > > > > /kernel: arp: 209.53.0.17 moved from 00:00:0c:35:17:f0 to 40:00:d1:35:3c:fe > > > > > > on fxp0 > > > > No, the 209.53.0.1 and 209.53.0.17 are the IPs of my ISP's 2 nameservers.. > > these are not my IPs. > > > How are you connected to your ISP? Some kind of bridging? You shouldn't >know the macadress of machines outside your net. What is your ip? I have no idea why I'm seeing they're MAC addresses, but that's besides the point :). I'm just connected via a regular DSL connection. I just want to stop the messages appearing on my console... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 22: 2:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from omta05.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAC037B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:02:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@sysmach.com) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta05.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB0D491D6; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id B355536F9; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:59:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Kyle To: Vincent Poy Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Reply-To: freebsd@sysmach.com X-Originating-Ip: [204.196.182.244] Message-Id: <20010420045940.B355536F9@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Vincent Poy > wrote: >On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > >> On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: >> >> # Hehe... Which reminds me, it's almost like IBM delivers their >> # crAptiva with Pentium 233MMX with just a heatsink but no fan and I doubt >> # you want your finger on the Pentium 233MMX. Ofcourse, the AMD Athlon's >> # run a lot hotter than the coppermines so does this mean the Intel's are >> # not real CPU's? ;) >> >> Gateway did and still does the samt hing, even with their Celery 700's. >> But you are forgetting about the Pentium 4 and the 900Mhz P3 Xeon with >> 2MB of on-die cache :) > > I thought Gateway, Dell, Sony's all don't even use fans and they >have a heatduct or something :) I work for the local school board, and all their Dells are just regular PCs, heatsinks and fans. The only thing is they have an onboard video card (that's the only part i dont like.). Not so keen on built in stuff. > > >Cheers, >Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ >Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] >WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] >San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] >HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] >Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin == _____________________________________________ /"\ ASCII Ribbon campaign against E-Mail \ / in gratuitous HTML and Microsoft X proprietary formats. / \ _____________________________________________________________ Systems at MACHSPEED!! http://sysmach.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 22:12:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bigcan.rapidsys.com (rapidsys.com [209.84.253.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832F437B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:12:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmoore@rapidsys.com) Received: from power (216.202.125.212 [216.202.125.212]) by bigcan.rapidsys.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 28S7KB66; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:12:01 -0400 From: "tmoore" To: Subject: ps an w fail Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:05:22 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01c0c957$83d13ec0$d47dcad8@ventecc2.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0C935.FD046FF0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0C935.FD046FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am running 4.2-STABLE and noticed when I logged into one of my boxes that w and ps is not working any more with the following error.=20 =20 (~)[6]# ps=20 ps: bad namelist =20 =20 I seem to remember this problem in the list a long time ago but I = can=92t seem to find it in the archives any help with this will be appreciated. =20 =20 Tim ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0C935.FD046FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am running 4.2-STABLE and noticed when I logged = into one of my boxes that w and ps is not working any = more with the following error.

 

(~)[6]# ps =

ps: bad = namelist=A0

 

I seem to remember this problem in the list a long = time ago but I can’t seem to find it in the archives any help with this = will be appreciated.

 

 

Tim

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0C935.FD046FF0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 22:26:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www3.pacific-pages.com (www3.pacific-pages.com [192.41.48.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D5237B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:26:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@www3.pacific-pages.com) Received: from d.tracker ([216.191.61.245]) by www3.pacific-pages.com (8.8.5) id XAA00683; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:26:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3K5MZG00374 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:22:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:22:35 -0400 (EDT) From: David Banning Message-Id: <200104200522.f3K5MZG00374@d.tracker> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SCO emulation stops working Reply-To: david@banning.com Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a number of SCO binaries that just stopped working suddenly. The only thing that I changed that I can remember was that I recently did a cvsup and make world. I am running; uname -a FreeBSD d.tracker 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #5: Sun Mar 4 03:00:39 EST 2001 root@d.tracker:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/tracker i386 All the actual error shows is; bash: /usr/accell/bin/RPT: cannot execute binary file Any idea where I could start to track this down? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 22:37:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ideal.net.au (ion.ideal.net.au [203.20.241.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E3737B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:37:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@ideal.net.au) Received: from moronium.ideal.net.au (helium.staff.ideal.net.au [202.3.35.2]) by mail.ideal.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA53994 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:37:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from chris@ideal.net.au) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010420152250.023d2ff8@mail.ideal.net.au> X-Sender: chris@mail.ideal.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:37:03 +1000 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Aitken Subject: sendmail.cf info In-Reply-To: <000b01c0c957$83d13ec0$d47dcad8@ventecc2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Everyone, I have a bit of a question I havent been able to stumble on the right syntax for the sendmail.cf to make it work..... What im tring to do is have sendmail.cf pick up on any emails coming in for a specific address and append a small bit of text at the beginning of the Subject. For example.... if the email comes in to 'jack@reacher.com' with Subject: Hi, How Are You? I want to be able to deliver it to the user but with the following Subject: [Jack] Hi, How Are You? I have tried different configs and what not and I just cant seem to get it to do what I want it to do. Any suggestions ? Thanks Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 22:40:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE72B37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hacker@bolingbroke.com) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id f3K5e2e59438; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:40:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Tony Landells Cc: default013 , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: re-compiling sendmail In-Reply-To: <200104200439.OAA11109@tungsten.austclear.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know why stuff lives in both /usr/src/contrib and /usr/src/usr.sbin, but you'll have better luck building sendmail from the latter: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail make Ken On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Tony Landells wrote: > Oh, okay. > > I see there's a FREEBSD-upgrade file that says that a number of things > were changed for the FreeBSD release, including all the Build files > and renaming the "sendmail" directory to "src", so yes the Makefile > is going to be totally stuffed. > > I guess that means you can only build it by starting in /usr/src and > doing "make buildworld". > > That kind of sucks... > > I'm sure I've missed something--can someone who knows how to make this > work please step forward? > > Tony > -- > Tony Landells > Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 > Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 > Level 4, Rialto North Tower > 525 Collins Street > Melbourne VIC 3000 > Australia > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 22:46: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0841637B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:45:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08969; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:45:27 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:45:27 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Linh Pham Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy , Charles Burns , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: > > # Somehow I thought the Intel and AMD x86 CPUs were CISC and had a > # portion that was RISC. > > AMD uses their RISC86 engine to turn crummy x86 instructions into > RISC-like instructions to crunch them more efficiently as it can. The > Pentium III processors do something like that since the P6 core, but the > original P6 core sucked at 16-bit code... so Intel had to reduce the > optimizations in the Out-of-Order engine to increase 16-bit performance > in the Pentium II. Interesting. I guess I never read about how AMD did it... I just remember reading a comparison of the Pentium versus the PowerPC 603 I think and it somehow gave the indication that Intel CPU's were CISC with RISC and the PowerPC was 100% RISC. > In reality... the x86 processors and, what people tend to call, RISC > processors now are really post-RISC. Trying to expand IPC and increase > Mhz :) Intel went the opposite with the P4. True but speaking about AMD, PIII and the likes, where does the Xeon fit in? Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 22:51:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DED37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:51:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 27677A91E; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:50:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:50:12 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: GCC and FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010420005012.A95149@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Two questions, the second one a little off-topic, but bear with me: 1) If GCC didn't exist, what compiler would FreeBSD contain? 2) Since all my programming has been on UNIX systems with GCC, I have no idea how GCC compares to other compilers. Is it a good one, a mediocre one, or just the only thing we've got? Thanks. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 22:51:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from jason-n3xt.org (crtntx1-ar3-088-078.dsl.gtei.net [4.41.88.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED10837B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:51:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@jason-n3xt.org) Received: from jason (crtntx1-ar3-088-096.dsl.gtei.net [4.41.88.96]) by jason-n3xt.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f01Ae3C09188 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:40:03 GMT (envelope-from jason@jason-n3xt.org) From: "Jason Halbert" To: Subject: Pentium Xeons Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:51:40 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello: Does FreeBSD like and perform well on PentiumIII Xeon 667MHz Processors with 1MB cache? I have a friend that wants to sell me one and I'm thinking of going for it. --- Jason Halbert jason@jason-n3xt.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 22:53:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2BA37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09072; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:52:52 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:52:52 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Sean Peck Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy , Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3ADF58E1.3660FD8E@loudcloud.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Sean Peck wrote: > I don't know if the DURON is faster when overclocked, I personally > stay away from overclocking, I don't need it. True but the Duron's from what I've heard are easily overclocked to 1Ghz or more even for a 600. > The only differences between the Athlon and the Duron is on chip > cache, and speeds of the front side bus, if I am not mistaken. I thought the front side bus was identical and the TBird has 4x the cache. > Athlons have larger L2 Cache I believe than the Durons, and are > available with up to a 200MHZ bus. Yes, they are but I thought the Athlon family which includes both the Thunderbird and the Duron has 200Mhz bus with the Thunderbird with 266Mhz on the DDR versions. > These are the only differences between the chips from my understanding > (if I am wrong I am sure someone here will set me straight) Hmmm, I thought the biggest difference was that the Thunderbird has 4x the cache of the Duron. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > Vincent Poy wrote: > > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Sean Peck wrote: > > > > > I have been running AMD processors with both FreeBSD and BSDi for quite some > > > time now, and ATHLON is by far the better choice than the PIII or the P4. > > > > I guess it is cheaper too and delivers far better performance for > > the pricing and you can still get a better or equivelent system for much > > less. > > > > > The only real issue with AMD is heat related they put out a lot of heat.. but > > > that's about the only "concern" and I have never had this be a problem. > > > > Yep, I heard heat is the problem especially with those over > > 1Ghz... > > > > > I would highly recommend purchasing AMD over any Intel offering in > > > equivalent cost. You will get far more bang for your buck with > > > Athlon/Duron over anything that Intel has in the price range, period. > > > > True. Now, speaking about the Duron, are the Duron's really > > faster than the Athlon's when both are overclocked? Some guy who runs a > > cluster of 20-30 AMD's for rc5 crunching says the Duron is faster. > > > > Cheers, > > Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ > > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > > WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] > > San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > > > > > Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the insight but what about in a Single CPU environment? > > > > > > > > > > > > This depends on what you plan to do. The general consensus among the > > > > > > hardware reviewers is that the Athlon is overall faster than any other > > > > x86 > > > > > > compatible CPU. > > > > > > > > > > Yep, that's what I read as well but are there any drawbacks to > > > > > being faster such as compatibilty and all that stuff? > > > > > > > > > > > > > The compatibility and all that stuff days of the K5 and K6 are long gone. > > > > Today, generally, if a cpu is x86 compatible, that's that. There are no > > > > compatibility issues with the Athlon. > > > > > > > > > > The only significant performance advantage that the Pentium 3 has over > > > > the > > > > > > Athlon is that its l2 cache memory is _much_ faster than that of the > > > > Athlon. > > > > > > > > Could you explain this ? If you're comparing Thunderbirds to Coppermines, I > > > > didn't think that was the case. > > > > > > > > > > The Athlon has a superior floating point unit that is, in addition, more > > > > > > deeply pipelined. When using software that isn't optimized for any > > > > > > particular FPU, the Athlon is typically just under 30% faster. (Some > > > > > > examples of this can be seen on comparisons between the two at > > > > Anandtech) > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, that's what I am concerned about. It seems that most things > > > > > are optimized for the Intel CPU's. While the FPU is faster on the Athlon > > > > > than the Intel, what about the non-FPU area? > > > > > > > > In business applications benchmarks the Athlon always stomps the P3. > > > > > > > > > > The Athlon can take more advantage of higher memory bandwidth than the > > > > P3 > > > > > > (but probably not the P4), thus you can get a greater performance > > > > benefit in > > > > > > some cases using DDR RAM. > > > > > > > > > > Speaking about DDR RAM, what kind of performance hits would there > > > > > be using DDR versus non-DDR RAM? > > > > > > > > If I remember correctly, depending on the type the best SDRAM gets about 800 > > > > megs/sec. DDR SDRAM comes in two flavors, 1.6 gigs/sec and 2.1gigs/sec. > > > > > > > > > > The Athlon is much, much cheaper. Motherboards, however, are more > > > > expensive. > > > > > > The overall cost ends up lower with the Athlon, especially if you are > > > > > > considering the price/perormance ratio. > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, that's what I realized as well. It seems like the VIA and > > > > > AMD chipset based motherboards costs a lot more than the Intel variants. > > > > > > > > You can get an Athlon motherboard for $100. Even if the Intel motherboard > > > > was half that, at $50, the difference in the prices of the cpus is FAR more > > > > than $50. Up to $200 in the higher end processors. People always speak of > > > > the higher cost of Athlon motherboards but I don't see the point if the AMD > > > > cpu is 40% cheaper and the difference in motherboard prices is relatively > > > > pennies when you're speaking of a multi-hundred dollar purchase. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those. I guess I just wanted to > > > > > know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it > > > > > under Windows. > > > > > > > > It's the same. If the code is written and compiled properly, the difference > > > > should be seen in all OSes. > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > > Garbage Collection... the bell bottoms of programming.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > Garbage Collection... the bell bottoms of programming.. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 22:53:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fbsd.bosa.ca (cr1003901-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.37.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA13C37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:53:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kulraj@bosa.ca) Received: from ska1 (h207-230-227-196.dccnet.com [207.230.227.196]) by fbsd.bosa.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id DEF4B158EB9; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01ae01c0c95e$a2dee7c0$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> From: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" To: "Vincent Poy" Cc: References: Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:56:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > True but speaking about AMD, PIII and the likes, where does the > Xeon fit in? Remember way back in the Pentium days? The Pentium Pro was a great CPU for 32bit OS's (WinNT, FreeBSD, OS/2 to name a few) but it sucked big time running Win95. As far as I know the Xeon is a progression on that family of CPU's - server orientated and reasonably well peforming under 32bit OS. But the key question in everybodys mind is bang for your buck - guess what this will bring me right back to the Athlon! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 22:54:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f92.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9904B37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:54:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:54:09 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.160 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:54:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.160] From: "Charles Burns" To: vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET Cc: lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:54:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 05:54:09.0391 (UTC) FILETIME=[51443FF0:01C0C95E] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The last problem that AMD processors had that was in any way significant >was > > when a few old K6 processors would become flaky with more than about >40MB of > > RAM. This was back when RAM was about $45/MB in the U.S. so most people > > never got that much anyway (and when they did they weren't using K6 >chips) > > Hmmm, perhaps that's why one of our machines with a K6-200 non-MMX >seems unstable with 64 megs of RAM.. The RAM actually costed more like >$50/MB for 72 pin EDO SIMMs. $45...$50... > > ...corruption in certain cases which is a big nono. Intel recalled the >chipset. > > They were in such a hurry to leapfrog AMD that they failed to properly >test > > the chipset. This will long be a taint on Intel quality in the memory of > > many computer professionals. > > True but isn't the 440BX supposed to still be the robust Intel >chipset? It has been replaced by the i815 chipset, which supports 133MHz RAM and ATA100 whereas the BX supports only 100MHz RAM and ATA33. It allows for only 512MB RAM though so is totally unsuitable for any serious server. I would call the BX the best chipset ever made by Intel. It remained the best the longest and is to a degree still useful today. My server uses one and despite my preference for AMD stuff for most cases, it works beautifully with its little P2-400. > I thought they recalled it as soon as they announced it, this was >what drove their stock prices down. Nope, they recalled it only after multiple waves of proof that it was faulty. They shipped many of them to manufacturers, but AFAIK no systems were shipped before the recall. Intel announced the recall after many tests were done by review sites. I believe that TomsHardware was officially credited, which I suppose he deserves because he picked up quite alot of "You are anti-intel and I will never trust you again" flak. I bet it was very satisfying to be able to say "Told ya so!", but I doubt he did being a mature person. ;-) > Yeah, true... Now, only if there is a AMD 760 chipset based >motherboard with a ISA slot since I need it for my $600 soundcard :( (jerks head backwards in shock) Damn. I normally say "Get an SBLive!" when I hear about ISA card woes, but unless that card is very old it must have some very spiffy features to cost that much. Professional musician? > > Asus generally makes the most stable motherboards. > > True but I think ABIT motherboards have been good as well. ASUS >has a problem with the ATA100 area from what I heard. All manufacturers have problems here and there. MSI and Tyan make great boards too, but all have had their flops and their boards that were perfect besides one or two serious (and later fixed) bugs. In general, stepping back, Asus seems to overall make the best boards most consistantly. Abit's are good too, I like them both. > > I often hear "Such-and-such a site is anti [AMD/Intel/Cyrix] because of > > such-and-such." > > Yeah but on Anantech, atleast in the forums, people are all for >the Athlon with very few for the Intel side. The way I see it, that says something for the Athlon--not something against Anandtech. The people in the forum are hardware enthusiasts and are far more educated about hardware (as I am sure you are) than the general public. I usually quote Tom's over Anandtech though--I mean--how competant could a computer review crew really be when they choose to use Windows above all else for their server platform? I guess that's another issue entirely though. ;-) > > Usually Tom's Hardware is accused more than Anandtech because they are >more > > apt to be harsh on something that doesn't live up to the hype, but >Anandtech > > isn't immune. > > I haven't visited Tom's Hardware in ages... That's ok. As the joke goes, you probably saw his latest article last time you visited. }:> I visit for his daily summary of news so I don't need to go to 15 different sites. Just Tom's, The Register, Anandtech and /. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 22:57:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3795C37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:57:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@bolingbroke.com) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id f3K5vne59527; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:57:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Andrew Hesford Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: GCC and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20010420005012.A95149@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > Two questions, the second one a little off-topic, but bear with me: > > 1) If GCC didn't exist, what compiler would FreeBSD contain? No idea. > 2) Since all my programming has been on UNIX systems with GCC, I have > no idea how GCC compares to other compilers. Is it a good one, a > mediocre one, or just the only thing we've got? I'm not that much a programmer, so I don't know the technical details all that well. However, I have used several commercial compilers for commercial UNIX, usually made by the same people who write the UNIX platform. They're supposedly optimized for the platform, and written by the same people who do the OS. However, in practice I haven't seen obvious difference in the optimization. But then I haven't done a precise comparision either. But I definitely find GCC easier to use, mostly because all the open source software out there pretty much assume GCC. And some of those vendor compiles are just...quirky. They tend to be less verbose, so it's harder to troubleshoot compilation errors, that sort of thing. Overall, I'm happy with GCC, and wouldn't really use anything else, barring compelling reason to do so. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23: 0:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCEB37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09217; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:00:15 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:00:15 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Linh Pham Cc: Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: > > # I thought Gateway, Dell, Sony's all don't even use fans and they > # have a heatduct or something :) > > Dell uses heat ducts in most of their machines (except for their new > GX150 small form-factors and their small form factor GX100). Those heat ducks were actually pretty interesting except the Sony ones looked better! Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23: 1:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f94.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAAD37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:01:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:01:35 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.160 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:01:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.160] From: "Charles Burns" To: vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET, seanp@loudcloud.com Cc: jgowdy@home.com, lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:01:35 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 06:01:35.0513 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B2D1090:01C0C95F] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The only real issue with AMD is heat related they put out a lot of >heat.. but > > that's about the only "concern" and I have never had this be a problem. > > Yep, I heard heat is the problem especially with those over >1Ghz... Well, heat dissipation is directly proportional to clock speed, so it only becomes a problem at the level that your HSF combo can't hack it at temperature extremes. Athlon 500's are hot and so are Athlons overclocked to 1500. Just depends on your cooling. It isn't really a problem at all if you have amazinf HSF combo or water cooling. > True. Now, speaking about the Duron, are the Duron's really >faster than the Athlon's when both are overclocked? Some guy who runs a >cluster of 20-30 AMD's for rc5 crunching says the Duron is faster. Uhh, I haven't seen that article, but I can pretty confidently say "No." There are two differences that matter between Tbirds and Durons. 1) Tbirds have 4x the L2 cache 2) Tbirds are often made with copper rather than aluminum interconnects, which means lower resistance and theoretically higher clockspeeds. Having less L2 cache can't really speed things up and at the same clockspeed, the interconnect technology means nothing. Perhaps he meant Duron's that can OC past a certain revision of Tbird--and are thus higher clocked? Or perhaps he means that they are faster if you consider price in the equation? For what matter though--FreeBSD--Tbird Athlons are faster. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23: 4:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f85.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72E537B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:04:08 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.160 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:04:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.160] From: "Charles Burns" To: seanp@loudcloud.com, vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET Cc: jgowdy@home.com, lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:04:08 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 06:04:08.0655 (UTC) FILETIME=[B674ADF0:01C0C95F] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >The only differences between the Athlon and the Duron is on chip cache, and >speeds >of the front side bus, if I am not mistaken. > >Athlons have larger L2 Cache I believe than the Durons, and are available >with up to >a 200MHZ bus. > >These are the only differences between the chips from my understanding (if >I am >wrong I am sure someone here will set me straight) Right except the FSB is the same on both. FSB speed differs only between Intel chips. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23: 5:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE8837B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:05:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09298; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:05:08 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:05:08 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Jeremiah Gowdy Cc: Sean Peck , Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <000f01c0c917$fd6465e0$015778d8@sherline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > > I don't know if the DURON is faster when overclocked, I personally stay > away from > > overclocking, I don't need it. > > I doubt if the Duron is faster overclocked or underclocked. It's just the > Thunderbird with less cache. Less cache != faster (at the same cache speed) > as far as I've ever known. After thinking about it, it may be that the Duron is faster because at the price you pay for the Duron, you can overclock it to a Thunderbird that costs more but only compared to a 1Ghz Thunderbird. > > The only differences between the Athlon and the Duron is on chip cache, > and speeds > > of the front side bus, if I am not mistaken. > > > > Athlons have larger L2 Cache I believe than the Durons, > > That is the only difference. That's what I thought, 4x is what I heard. > > and are available with up to a 200MHZ bus. > > They both have a 200mhz bus. Not up to, but 200mhz. Wouldn't that factor alone make it smoke the Intels? > The FSB is 100 or 133 in both. (Not talking about DDR and new boards) > > Just say it this way, "Duron is a Thunderbird with less cache". Atleast it sounds better at AMD than it does at Intel. A Celeron II is a Pentium III with 1/2 the cache, higher latency cache and 4way cache instead of 8 ways. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23: 6:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04BD37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:06:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09315; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:06:22 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:06:22 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > >The only differences between the Athlon and the Duron is on chip cache, and > >speeds > >of the front side bus, if I am not mistaken. > > > >Athlons have larger L2 Cache I believe than the Durons, and are available > >with up to > >a 200MHZ bus. > > > >These are the only differences between the chips from my understanding (if > >I am > >wrong I am sure someone here will set me straight) > > Right except the FSB is the same on both. FSB speed differs only between > Intel chips. True except lots have been saying the Intel Celeron II 800 is really the Celeron 533 overclocked. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23: 6:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fbsd.bosa.ca (cr1003901-a.rct1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.37.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BC537B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:06:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kulraj@bosa.ca) Received: from ska1 (h207-230-227-196.dccnet.com [207.230.227.196]) by fbsd.bosa.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 62BBE158EB9; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01df01c0c960$6bd46960$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> From: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" To: "Charles Burns" , , Cc: References: Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:09:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > 2) Tbirds are often made with copper rather than aluminum interconnects, > which means lower resistance and theoretically higher clockspeeds. - Despite the name there is no copper in coppermines!! - You can tell a copper T'Bird it'll have a blue tint the aluminum ones have a green tint. All the new C-Version CPU's I have seen are copper. Regards, Kulraj To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23: 9:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEB837B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:09:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09355; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:09:14 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:09:14 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: "Andrew C. Hornback" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <001c01c0c91d$bb795720$0e00000a@tomcat> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Andrew C. Hornback wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Vincent Poy > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:36 PM > > To: Linh Pham > > Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD > > > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > > > > > On 2001-04-19, Bzdik BSD scribbled: > > > > > > # G4 stil runs without heatsink - doesn't qualify as a real CPU to me. > > > # end :)) > > > > > > A G3 can run without a heatsink, but the G4 does require a heatsink (it > > > requires quite a bit more power compared to the G3, thus needs to > > > dissipate a lot more power than the G3)... but can run without an active > > > fan. > > > > > > Of course, have you touched a G3 without a heatsink? :) > > > > Hehe... Which reminds me, it's almost like IBM delivers their > > crAptiva with Pentium 233MMX with just a heatsink but no fan and I doubt > > you want your finger on the Pentium 233MMX. Ofcourse, the AMD Athlon's > > run a lot hotter than the coppermines so does this mean the Intel's are > > not real CPU's? ;) > > Packard Bell did the same with their 133 MHz models. I had one come into the shop a couple of years ago, guy wanted to know why his system wasn't stable. > > Most companies that I've seen that do that, only putting a > heatsink on the chip, also line up a case fan to blow overtop of it. > That does some good, but I hasten to guess how much. Hmm, the IBM Aptiva I saw was a P233MMX and all it had was a huge heatsink, even larger than the current ones for Socket A/370's. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23:12:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017E137B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:12:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09416; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:12:28 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:12:27 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy , Charles Burns , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <005e01c0c952$22d8aae0$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account) wrote: > >> Thanks, I'm familiar with all of those. I guess I just wanted to > >> know how they do under FreeBSD since all the sites really benchmark it > >> under Windows. > > >It's the same. If the code is written and compiled properly, the > difference > >should be seen in all OSes. > > Slightly of topic, couldn't resist : > Toms Hardware conducts a linux kernel compile in one of their benchmarks. If > we have any Intel lovers out there please put you hands over your ears for > the rest of this...... > Their kernel compile test they find always fails on overclocked CPU's that > is why the concluded that the Intel Pentium III 1133MHz CPU was essentially > an overclocked 850MHz CPU. This if I remember right has been recalled and > never re-released. > I could find the link to Tom's archive covering this, it really is quite > amusing. Hmmm, has Intel been trying to release the same old CPU's but overclocked them and sell them as faster CPUs? Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23:13:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9194937B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09425; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:13:16 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:13:16 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <00d201c0c953$9e5960a0$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account) wrote: > Something we did several months ago : > > FreeBSD make buildworld 4.2 (cvsup) > Virtually identical machines, three different CPU's > Duron 700 66min > PIII 700 65min > Athlon 700 55min > > The surprising factor to me was not that the Athlon was easily the fastest > at this task (I expected that), but that the Duron performed so > exceptionally well compared to the PIII which at the time was three times > the cost! > > Regards, > > Kulraj That's true... I sure like to see where the Celeron fits in.. a Celeron 2 700 or a Celeron II 566@850. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > > > I don't know if the DURON is faster when overclocked, I personally stay > > away from > > > overclocking, I don't need it. > > > > I doubt if the Duron is faster overclocked or underclocked. It's just the > > Thunderbird with less cache. Less cache != faster (at the same cache > speed) > > as far as I've ever known. > > > > > The only differences between the Athlon and the Duron is on chip cache, > > and speeds > > > of the front side bus, if I am not mistaken. > > > > > > Athlons have larger L2 Cache I believe than the Durons, > > > > That is the only difference. > > > > > and are available with up to a 200MHZ bus. > > > > They both have a 200mhz bus. Not up to, but 200mhz. > > > > The FSB is 100 or 133 in both. (Not talking about DDR and new boards) > > > > Just say it this way, "Duron is a Thunderbird with less cache". > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23:14:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C9937B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09434; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:14:18 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:14:17 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Kyle Cc: Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20010420045940.B355536F9@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Kyle wrote: > --- Vincent Poy > > wrote: > >On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > > > >> On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: > >> > >> # Hehe... Which reminds me, it's almost like IBM delivers their > >> # crAptiva with Pentium 233MMX with just a heatsink but no fan and I doubt > >> # you want your finger on the Pentium 233MMX. Ofcourse, the AMD Athlon's > >> # run a lot hotter than the coppermines so does this mean the Intel's are > >> # not real CPU's? ;) > >> > >> Gateway did and still does the samt hing, even with their Celery 700's. > >> But you are forgetting about the Pentium 4 and the 900Mhz P3 Xeon with > >> 2MB of on-die cache :) > > > > I thought Gateway, Dell, Sony's all don't even use fans and they > >have a heatduct or something :) > > I work for the local school board, and all their Dells are just > regular PCs, heatsinks and fans. The only thing is they have an > onboard video card (that's the only part i dont like.). Not so keen on > built in stuff. I admit I haven't seen alot of Dell's, Sony's, or Gateway's but the ones I've seen only has a heatsink and a heatduct, no fans. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23:18: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8CD37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09480; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:17:50 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:17:50 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: "Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account)" Cc: Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <01ae01c0c95e$a2dee7c0$64c8a8c0@asknet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Kulraj Gurm (bosa.ca account) wrote: > > True but speaking about AMD, PIII and the likes, where does the > > Xeon fit in? > > Remember way back in the Pentium days? The Pentium Pro was a great CPU for > 32bit OS's (WinNT, FreeBSD, OS/2 to name a few) but it sucked big time > running Win95. As far as I know the Xeon is a progression on that family of > CPU's - server orientated and reasonably well peforming under 32bit OS. > But the key question in everybodys mind is bang for your buck - guess what > this will bring me right back to the Athlon! I was testing distributed.net dnet rc5 client on various machines and for some reason, the Pentium Pro 166 seemed to be slower than the Pentium 90 which already seemed slow. I guess Intel has just been around longer so more people just trust it but ofcourse, if something is better, faster and works equally as well, then people will move right to the Athlon! Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23:20:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f180.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5B837B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:20:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:20:52 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.160 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:20:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.160] From: "Charles Burns" To: mwm@mired.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:20:52 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 06:20:52.0529 (UTC) FILETIME=[0CCFB210:01C0C962] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >RISC is pretty much vertical microcode. WISC - which didn't make quite >the same splash - is pretty much horizontal microcode. People wanting >to build fast CISC computers have done so by microcoding them for a >long time, usually using vertical microcode. The 370 line was that >way, as well the high end of the PDP-11 line was that way. Uhh. My impression was that RISC=Reduced Instruction Set (chip/computer) meant make the chip simpler (but harder to program at the asm level) and execute more, simpler instructions. CISC=have complex instructions and lots of them thus having a higher IPC but many theoretically unneeded transistors. Microcode=Simple software internal to chips or imbedded into battery-backed ROM or FlashROM used to do things like fix simple processor bugs that software can fix. What is vertical and horizontal microcoding? If I am wrong I certainly want to know--and I am curious as to what you are talking about as I have never even heard these terms before. >Cray didn't have to implement a CISC instruction set, so the Cray I >instruction set is very RISC-like, with the exception of the >instructions for dealing with the array processor hanging off the >back. Was RISC vs CISC (terms which didn't even exist in the 70's then the Cray1 was being built) even an issue then? Vector processors have such different priorities than the processors that every other computer uses. What do you mean by "hanging off the back"? You should be a speaker at Defcon--They love to absorb esoteric and almost unknown computer knowledge. (scratches head) Umm. Where can I get more info about this? >The truly cool machines had a writable control store. Huh? >The PDP-11 kit >sold by Heathkit included that as an option. BBN had the ultimate Unix >version, though - they included a C compiler and WCS linker so you >could write new instructions in C, so your function calls turned into >single instructions. What does all this have to do with the price of tea in China? It's all very interesting, but it seems like a collection of random unrelated computer tidbits. I may just not see the point as this is mostly new to me other than the PDP11 (which is still used today) and the Cray, sortof. >My favorite microcode oddity is the IBM PC card IBM sold that used a >68K chip with custom microcode to interpret 370 machine instructions >so you could run MVS software on your x86 PC. > >Ok, enough reminiscing for one day. > > ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:28:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:28:05 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.160 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:28:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.160] From: "Charles Burns" To: jgowdy@home.com, seanp@loudcloud.com, vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET Cc: lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:28:05 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 06:28:05.0745 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F073610:01C0C963] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Athlons have larger L2 Cache I believe than the Durons, > >That is the only difference. > > > and are available with up to a 200MHZ bus. > >They both have a 200mhz bus. Not up to, but 200mhz. > >The FSB is 100 or 133 in both. (Not talking about DDR and new boards) The FSB on the Athlon's EV6 bus is DDR. The FSB and bus, in this case, are one in the same. The 133MHz Athlons (Not the ones with 133MHz memory--that is unrelated--which may be what you are talking about in which case ignore me) have a 133MHz bus thus have a 266MHz bus because it is DDR. No Durons are shipped preconfigured to use a 133MHz(266MHz) FSB but they are still perfectly capable as locn as they can overclock at least 33%. I guess that considering FSB, the new Athlons with the faster bus have that advantage in addition to the greater L2 cache size. Err, in short: Athlons and Durons can both use 100MHz or 133MHz RAM (be it DDR or not) Athlons and Durons can have a 100MHz FSB by default without OCing. This is unrelated to the memory clockspeed as they don't necessarily have to be synchronous. Only new Athlons are designed to work from the getgo with a 133MHz FSB. Raise your hand if you can think of any way to make the situation even mroe complex. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23:31: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC2337B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:30:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09622; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:30:39 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:30:39 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > > > The last problem that AMD processors had that was in any way significant > >was > > > when a few old K6 processors would become flaky with more than about > >40MB of > > > RAM. This was back when RAM was about $45/MB in the U.S. so most people > > > never got that much anyway (and when they did they weren't using K6 > >chips) > > > > Hmmm, perhaps that's why one of our machines with a K6-200 non-MMX > >seems unstable with 64 megs of RAM.. The RAM actually costed more like > >$50/MB for 72 pin EDO SIMMs. > > $45...$50... > > > ...corruption in certain cases which is a big nono. Intel recalled the > >chipset. > > > They were in such a hurry to leapfrog AMD that they failed to properly > >test > > > the chipset. This will long be a taint on Intel quality in the memory of > > > many computer professionals. > > > > True but isn't the 440BX supposed to still be the robust Intel > >chipset? > > It has been replaced by the i815 chipset, which supports 133MHz RAM and > ATA100 whereas the BX supports only 100MHz RAM and ATA33. It allows for only > 512MB RAM though so is totally unsuitable for any serious server. Actually, that isn't true since the BX motherboards have been redone by many motherboard manufacturers to do 133Mhz and then ATA100 via a third party (HigPoint/Promise) chipset. My ABIT BE6II v2.0 for example has 768MB of RAM and is running at 133Mhz with ATA100 drives on the third and fourth controllers while the first two controlls are ATA33. The i815 is faster but the BX is supposed to be the better made chipset. > I would call the BX the best chipset ever made by Intel. It remained the > best the longest and is to a degree still useful today. My server uses one > and despite my preference for AMD stuff for most cases, it works beautifully > with its little P2-400. I guess you're right that the BX is the best chipset ever made by Intel. It's also been a favorite for system tweakers for the past few years since motherboard manufacturers have been tweaking it to 133Mhz and even 150Mhz plus added support for UltraDMA 100 via third party chipsets. The only advantage the 815 has over the 440BX is the AGP 4x while the 440BX is 2x. > > I thought they recalled it as soon as they announced it, this was > >what drove their stock prices down. > > Nope, they recalled it only after multiple waves of proof that it was > faulty. They shipped many of them to manufacturers, but AFAIK no systems > were shipped before the recall. Intel announced the recall after many tests > were done by review sites. I believe that TomsHardware was officially > credited, which I suppose he deserves because he picked up quite alot of > "You are anti-intel and I will never trust you again" flak. > I bet it was very satisfying to be able to say "Told ya so!", but I doubt he > did being a mature person. ;-) I forgot, I sold my Intel shares right before they did the recall and was counting my money to the bank, all 1700% gain of it! ;-) > > Yeah, true... Now, only if there is a AMD 760 chipset based > >motherboard with a ISA slot since I need it for my $600 soundcard :( > > (jerks head backwards in shock) Damn. I normally say "Get an SBLive!" when I > hear about ISA card woes, but unless that card is very old it must have some > very spiffy features to cost that much. Professional musician? Well, back in 1997, I needed the SPDIF inputs so it was a replacement for my GUS (I know, I run the GUS Mailing lists) and that was what was recommended. It's still in production today... Terratec AudioSystem EWS64XL which is German Made... http://www.terratec-us.com. The new Hercules by Guillemot GameTheater XP seems to be similar these days but not sure how it sounds. > > > Asus generally makes the most stable motherboards. > > > > True but I think ABIT motherboards have been good as well. ASUS > >has a problem with the ATA100 area from what I heard. > > All manufacturers have problems here and there. MSI and Tyan make great > boards too, but all have had their flops and their boards that were perfect > besides one or two serious (and later fixed) bugs. In general, stepping > back, Asus seems to overall make the best boards most consistantly. Abit's > are good too, I like them both. I know ASUS has always been the recommended one. ABIT is the one that makes tweaking possible and then MSI and Tyan are good but they are slower in performance. > > > I often hear "Such-and-such a site is anti [AMD/Intel/Cyrix] because of > > > such-and-such." > > > > Yeah but on Anantech, atleast in the forums, people are all for > >the Athlon with very few for the Intel side. > > The way I see it, that says something for the Athlon--not something against > Anandtech. Yeah, atleast there are supporters! > The people in the forum are hardware enthusiasts and are far more educated > about hardware (as I am sure you are) than the general public. True... It was more funny reading about the P4 versus Athlon there. > I usually quote Tom's over Anandtech though--I mean--how competant could a > computer review crew really be when they choose to use Windows above all > else for their server platform? I guess that's another issue entirely > though. ;-) True but I think the Anandtech people are more Linux people... That's even when I became part of the tacube dnet team, I added Team FreeBSD after my name ;-) > > > Usually Tom's Hardware is accused more than Anandtech because they are > >more > > > apt to be harsh on something that doesn't live up to the hype, but > >Anandtech > > > isn't immune. > > > > I haven't visited Tom's Hardware in ages... > > That's ok. As the joke goes, you probably saw his latest article last time > you visited. }:> > I visit for his daily summary of news so I don't need to go to 15 different > sites. Just Tom's, The Register, Anandtech and /. Hehe, I don't goto Tom's because I goto storagereview, anandtech and reading the forums and newsgroups takes too much time already. I do goto Tom's when I am trying to look up some info.. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23:32:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kirk.giovannelli.it (kirk.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D91637B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Received: from usul.masternet.it (modem43.masternet.it [194.184.65.103]) by kirk.giovannelli.it (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3K6Q9U38614 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:26:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gmarco@giovannelli.it) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010420082312.03eeabe8@194.184.65.4> X-Sender: gmarco@194.184.65.4 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:27:53 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: I FreeBSD missing timezone var ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A friend is converting a tool from Linux to FreeBSD. Ihe is saying we miss a var. I am not a C expert so I can't answer him. "Over the weekend I brought up FreeBSD on an old machine at home, and successfully built a native FreeBSD version of Sphere. It still hasn't been tested a bit (haven't had time), but I don't imagine it will be any different than the linux version. In fact, there is only one place that the code for the FreeBSD and Linux versions differ." [...] "The only difference is this -- in linux, there's a builtin variable called _timezone. I couldn't find that in FreeBSD, so I created a simple function that would determine the timezone. " Do we have something similar to the _timezone var ? Thanks for attention. Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco http://www2.masternet.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23:35:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cecov.masternet.it (cecov.masternet.it [194.184.65.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6D637B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:35:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Received: from usul.scotty.masternet.it (modem43.masternet.it [194.184.65.103]) by cecov.masternet.it (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3K6WZ118414; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:32:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010420083024.0314cb68@194.184.65.7> X-Sender: gmarco@194.184.65.7 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:30:48 +0200 To: Joe Heuring From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Re: shift page up Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100412214507.F3183@Joe H> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12/04/2010, you wrote: >Looking for the equivalent for shift page up in linux. Thank you. Press "Pause key" and the go up and down with the cursor... Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it/~gmarco http://www2.masternet.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23:39:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E4C37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:39:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09681; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:39:28 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:39:28 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > > > The only real issue with AMD is heat related they put out a lot of > >heat.. but > > > that's about the only "concern" and I have never had this be a problem. > > > > Yep, I heard heat is the problem especially with those over > >1Ghz... > > Well, heat dissipation is directly proportional to clock speed, so it only > becomes a problem at the level that your HSF combo can't hack it at > temperature extremes. Athlon 500's are hot and so are Athlons overclocked to > 1500. Just depends on your cooling. It isn't really a problem at all if you > have amazinf HSF combo or water cooling. Yeah, I guess the Athlon's are a good way to test if a Heatsink is good or if it's crappy. > > True. Now, speaking about the Duron, are the Duron's really > >faster than the Athlon's when both are overclocked? Some guy who runs a > >cluster of 20-30 AMD's for rc5 crunching says the Duron is faster. > > Uhh, I haven't seen that article, but I can pretty confidently say "No." > There are two differences that matter between Tbirds and Durons. > 1) Tbirds have 4x the L2 cache Maybe what he really meant was that a Duron that is overclocked to 1Ghz would get close to the performance of a TBird 1Ghz but at a lower cost. > 2) Tbirds are often made with copper rather than aluminum interconnects, > which means lower resistance and theoretically higher clockspeeds. > Having less L2 cache can't really speed things up and at the same > clockspeed, the interconnect technology means nothing. Perhaps he meant > Duron's that can OC past a certain revision of Tbird--and are thus higher > clocked? Or perhaps he means that they are faster if you consider price in > the equation? I guess it's probably for the price and the overclocking, the Duron will be faster for a lot less. > For what matter though--FreeBSD--Tbird Athlons are faster. That's all that matters since I can't tell the difference for normal day to day operations with Windows between a PII400 and a PIII933. I guess I'm not a gamer. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23:41: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from maile.telia.com (maile.telia.com [194.22.190.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B8737B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:41:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: from d1o907.telia.com (d1o907.telia.com [195.252.38.241]) by maile.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3K6f2D03534 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:41:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ludd.luth.se (h63n2fls21o907.telia.com [213.66.203.63]) by d1o907.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15312 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:41:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3ADFD9E4.419D4C7A@ludd.luth.se> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:40:36 +0200 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Organization: Acne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Build problems with Gnome and oa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I'm trying to install Gnome simply bu running "make install" in the /usr/ports/x11/gnome directory. I've had some smaller hiccups with gtk and glib not being up to date, but separate builds in those seems to have solved those problems. Now, the build crashes when trying to build oaf in /usr/ports/devel. I suspected my ports tree to be somewhat out of sync, so I removed the oaf directory and did a new cvsup. I got the latest oaf directory (oaf 0.6.2) and tried again, unfortunately without any more success. The build log: cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I.. -I../liboaf -I../liboaf -DOAFINFODIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/oaf\" -DOAF_LOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/gnome-xml -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -DOAF_CONFDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/etc\" -I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -c od-load.c od-load.c: In function `od_entry_read_props': od-load.c:50: structure has no member named `xmlChildrenNode' od-load.c:68: structure has no member named `xmlChildrenNode' od-load.c:95: structure has no member named `xmlChildrenNode' od-load.c:111: structure has no member named `xmlChildrenNode' od-load.c: In function `od_load_file': od-load.c:292: structure has no member named `xmlRootNode' od-load.c:293: structure has no member named `xmlRootNode' od-load.c:295: structure has no member named `xmlRootNode' gmake[2]: *** [od-load.o] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/oaf/work/oaf-0.6.2/oafd' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/oaf/work/oaf-0.6.2' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/oaf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/oaf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/oaf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/oaf. My system: FreeBSD fetis.informasic.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #18: Sun Apr 8 21:07:41 CEST 2001 js@fetis.informasic.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP4X i386 No overclocking, no optimizations during builds. I searched through maillists for ports and question, but didn't spot any obvoius references. Any pointers and suggestions that solves this would be highly appreciated. -- Cheers! Joachim - Alltid i harmonisk svängning --- FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight --- Joachim Strömbergson ASIC SoC designer, nice to CUTE animals Phone: +46(0)31 - 27 98 47 Web: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman --------------- Spamfodder: regeringen@regeringen.se --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23:47:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f84.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EBC37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:47:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:47:16 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.160 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:47:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.160] From: "Charles Burns" To: vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET, lplist@closedsrc.org Cc: jgowdy@home.com, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:47:12 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 06:47:16.0100 (UTC) FILETIME=[BCB17440:01C0C965] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Interesting. I guess I never read about how AMD did it... I just >remember reading a comparison of the Pentium versus the PowerPC 603 I >think and it somehow gave the indication that Intel CPU's were CISC >with RISC and the PowerPC was 100% RISC. What is 100% RISC though? RISC has become something of a marketing term that has died but still lives on in the memories of those who were caught up in it. RISC clasically means that the chip has less instructions and that they are simpler. Less and simpler than what? There is apparently more to all of this and I am still recovering from Mike Meyer's comments Everyone should read this article: http://arstechnica.com/cpu/4q99/risc-cisc/rvc-1.html This should help quite a bit. > > In reality... the x86 processors and, what people tend to call, RISC > > processors now are really post-RISC. Trying to expand IPC and increase > > Mhz :) Intel went the opposite with the P4. > > True but speaking about AMD, PIII and the likes, where does the >Xeon fit in? Xeon is simply a P2 or P3 that has lots of on-chip cache memory and is extremely overpriced. Theoretically this cache memory helps greatly with software such as Oracle, but I can't see it more than making up for the huge clockspeed penalty that Xeon's have. (They are always of a lower clockspeed than P3s) Xeon's also have the artificial multiprocessing cap set higher, or so I have heard, so that you can use 8 in a machine rather than just 2. Has enybody tested this? I have never heard of anybody putting 8 P3s into a motherboard. I wonder if it is Intel marketing rather than a real limit because it seems that it would be difficult to manually limit a CPU to only work with so many others. Because the ASIC chips deal with most fo the SMP stuff--how would the P3 really know whether it was in a 2-way or 8-way system? I don't have the money to test this out. If anybody would, I would be greatful to have this question answered. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 19 23:59:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www3.pacific-pages.com (www3.pacific-pages.com [192.41.48.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266DF37B43C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:59:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@www3.pacific-pages.com) Received: from d.tracker ([207.245.46.247]) by www3.pacific-pages.com (8.8.5) id AAA11478; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:59:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3K6rSW23881 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:53:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:48:07 -0400 From: David Banning To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCO emulation stops working Message-ID: <20010420024807.A22523@www3.pacific-pages.com> Reply-To: David Banning References: <200104200522.f3K5MZG00374@d.tracker> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104200522.f3K5MZG00374@d.tracker>; from david@www3.pacific-pages.com on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 01:22:35AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems for some reason the files ibcs2.ko and ibcs2_coff.ko are missing from the /modules section - replacing them causes it to operate again! > I have a number of SCO binaries that just stopped working suddenly. > The only thing that I changed that I can remember was that I recently > did a cvsup and make world. > > I am running; > uname -a > FreeBSD d.tracker 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #5: Sun Mar 4 03:00:39 EST 2001 root@d.tracker:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/tracker i386 > > All the actual error shows is; > bash: /usr/accell/bin/RPT: cannot execute binary file > > Any idea where I could start to track this down? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- "His great aim was to escape from civilization, and, as soon as he had money, he went to Southern California." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0: 7:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A599437B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:07:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from house@lvcm.com) Received: from neoone (cm082.44.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.44.82]) by 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABP42749; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00b401c0c968$32f606a0$1616160a@neoone> From: "JannaDanRich" To: "Kenny Powell" , References: <004701c0c917$c857c540$e28fbfd0@swbell.net> Subject: Re: CD Image Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:04:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B1_01C0C92D.8664D400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B1_01C0C92D.8664D400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you are fortunate enough that you got in early on DSL when they were = still offering Bridged connections, definitely go for the network = install (by bridged connection, I mean that you don't log on = (authenticate) .. ) If I can get bugs out of my FTP, I would gladly put = an image of 4.0 / 4.2 up for you, have 128 up (13 kB/s) bandwidth is an = issue. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kenny Powell=20 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: CD Image I have tried continually to download the CD image for version 4.3 and = it will not give it to me... It immediately says "error occured during = transfer". I would like to try this software and possibly switch to it = instead of windows... Is it possible you could send it to me or give me = a better location to download it? My email box size is unlimited it you = want to send it as an attachment... I have a DSL connection so bandwidth = isn't a problem either... =20 Thanks, Ken Powell ------=_NextPart_000_00B1_01C0C92D.8664D400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you are fortunate enough that you = got in early=20 on DSL when they were still offering Bridged connections, definitely go = for the=20 network install  (by bridged connection, I mean that you don't log = on=20 (authenticate) .. )  If I can get bugs out of my FTP, I would = gladly put an=20 image of 4.0 / 4.2 up for you, have 128 up (13 kB/s)  bandwidth is = an=20 issue.
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I have tried continually to download = the CD image=20 for version 4.3 and it will not give it to me... It immediately says = "error=20 occured during transfer". I would like to try this software and = possibly=20 switch to it instead of windows... Is it possible you could send it to = me or=20 give me a better location to download it? My email box size is = unlimited it=20 you want to send it as an attachment... I have a DSL connection so = bandwidth=20 isn't a problem either...
 
Thanks,
Ken Powell
 
------=_NextPart_000_00B1_01C0C92D.8664D400-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0: 8:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from magicdoor.deam.org (magicdoor.deam.org [62.156.171.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EB637B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:08:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mac.list@deam.org) Received: from deam.org (windoze.deam.org [10.10.10.99]) by magicdoor.deam.org (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3K79oM69381; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:09:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mac.list@deam.org) Message-ID: <3ADFE0A9.92EC4B56@deam.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:09:29 +0200 From: mac Reply-To: mac.list@deam.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gerald T. Freymann" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StarOffice52 References: <20010418230545.E548-100000@scaryg.shacknet.nu> <3ADE9A51.B0E1B51A@deam.org> <00a501c0c8d2$9d6c9440$0f01a8c0@phantom> <3ADEE97D.ED60AC29@ocsinternet.com> <013d01c0c8de$141b1cf0$0f01a8c0@phantom> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Gerald T. Freymann" wrote: > > linux_enable="YES" > > FYI you can always review /etc/defaults/rc.conf for ideas of what you > might > > put in /etc/rc.conf > > And stupid me should know that already > > Thanks. sorry - 'was out yesterday :) is it now running fine? cya mac To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:10:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f93.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6692137B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:10:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:10:15 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.160 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:10:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.160] From: "Charles Burns" To: vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET, jgowdy@home.com Cc: seanp@loudcloud.com, lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:10:14 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 07:10:15.0017 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2977D90:01C0C968] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is all getting highly offtopic, but it is very interesting. > > > and are available with up to a 200MHZ bus. > > > > They both have a 200mhz bus. Not up to, but 200mhz. > > Wouldn't that factor alone make it smoke the Intels? NO. No one factor EVER determines a winner in a processor war. There are so depressingly many factors that determine system performance, every one of them very important for certain types of software and unimportant for others and varying between the two at uneven levels for every other type of software. Three things seem to be widely believe to be either all that matters or all that is really important. CPU clockspeed, FSB clockspeed, memory clockspeed. Even if these THREE things all have very high numbers, there are just too damn many other factors. Intel's marketing/engineering team has built for us the perfect example. The Pentium 4 runs at 1.7GHz recently, has a 400MHz bus, and has 800MHz memory, yet it is the slowest modern architecture of the big three that you can buy. Here are some of the many, many reasons why: CPU@1700MHz: Does very little per clock (very low IPC), has very little cache memory FSB@400 MHZ (actually 100QDR--whatever). Umm, the FSB is fast and I can;t think of any disadvantages, but it doesn't make up for other weaknesses. RAM@800MHz. (Yes, I know it's actually 200QDR--whatever). That's all find and dandy until you use a 16-bit bus instead of a 64-bit bus, and increase memory latency with every RDRAM module that you add on top of an already high latency. They fixed the wrong problem and broke the right one. Bandwidth VS. Latency. It's all marketing. The Athlon is overall faster but the much faster FSB is only one factor. Take away any one advantage that the Athlon has and remove maybe 1%-3% of its performance. Its when all of those little touches are combined that the whole becomes greater than the sum of its parts. (Actually they end up exactly equal, but that sounded better ;-) The P3 tried to get the edge on performance by taking a single factor--the L2 cache bandwidth--and going for extreme values on that. Now the P3 has the fastest L2 cache in the world, but because most or all of the many factors have to compliment each-other, it's potential performance improvement was killed by many other bottlenecks, like the ancient core, the GTL+ bus, the slower and lower number of PUs, the shallower pipelining of the FPUs, etc. > Atleast it sounds better at AMD than it does at Intel. A Celeron >II is a Pentium III with 1/2 the cache, higher latency cache and 4way >cache instead of 8 ways. Setting cache to be more associative doesn't necessarily make it faster. 2-way set associative cache has a lesser miss penalty than 4-way or 8-way. It just so happens that in most cases the cache is slower because of the setting and the way that it is used. The Celeron 2 somewhat irritates me because it shows Intel's gross profit margins. It is the exact same core as the P3, so the P3 can clearly be sold for much cheaper. Good thing for AMD to shave their margins down. At least AMD is decent enough to make the Duron a separate core. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:13:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B66EC37B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:13:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 1268 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2001 07:13:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO picachu) (195.229.53.44) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 07:13:41 -0000 Message-ID: <008401c0c969$d7567350$0c05010a@picachu> From: "./" To: "Eqab almutairi" , References: Subject: Re: Hello Sir/Madam Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:14:05 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0C98B.02CFBDE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0C98B.02CFBDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't see any problems why people can't sell fbsd cd's anywhere. btw, = will you also be creating a mirror ftp server for freebsd? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Eqab almutairi=20 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:29 AM Subject: Hello Sir/Madam Hello sir/madam soon we gonna open site on the net for markting spicaly on kuwait = contry dont know if you allowed us to sell The freebsd cds or not thanks =20 almutairi ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0C98B.02CFBDE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't see any problems why people = can't sell fbsd=20 cd's anywhere.  btw, will you also be creating a mirror ftp server = for=20 freebsd?
 
 
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   soon we gonna open site = on the net=20 for markting spicaly on kuwait contry dont know if you allowed us to = sell The=20 freebsd cds or not thanks
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C0C98B.02CFBDE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:13:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D554237B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:13:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 1271 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2001 07:13:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO picachu) (195.229.53.44) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 07:13:50 -0000 Message-ID: <008501c0c969$ddd35ea0$0c05010a@picachu> From: "./" To: "Jason Halbert" , References: Subject: Re: Pentium Xeons Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:15:09 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You could check the HCL on www.freebsd.org to be sure or checkout www.freebsddiary.org as the owner of that site have a dual xeon's running fbsd. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Halbert" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: Pentium Xeons > Hello: > > Does FreeBSD like and perform well on PentiumIII Xeon 667MHz Processors with > 1MB cache? I have a friend that wants to sell me one and I'm thinking of > going for it. > > --- > Jason Halbert > jason@jason-n3xt.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:16:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sttlpop2.sttl.uswest.net (sttlpop2.sttl.uswest.net [206.81.192.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8ACC37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:16:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from creddy@qwest.net) Received: (qmail 43290 invoked by alias); 20 Apr 2001 07:16:30 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 43256 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 2001 07:16:29 -0000 Received: from sttldslgw9poolb96.sttl.uswest.net (HELO dhsdhwe563tsrg) (63.226.221.96) by sttlpop2.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 07:16:29 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c0c96a$11dc23d0$0200000a@voicestream.com> Reply-To: "CS Reddy" From: "CS Reddy" To: Subject: Install hangs up Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:18:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C92F.652010A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C92F.652010A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello I am new to the BSD world. I have a compaq pc (i686, 256MB of = RAM) which has Windows 2000 and RedHat Linux 7.0 installed on two = different hard disks (Disk 1 (20GB) - Win2K and Disk 2 (30 GB) - RHL). I = use Win 2K's NT boot loader to boot RH Linux and never had any problems. = I wanted to install FreeBSD on my first hard disk. I made room for it (5 = GB) on my first disk and created an unformatted partition using = Partition Magic. This partiton is below the 1024 Cylinders limit. I = tried two different ways to install with out any luck so far: 1) I bought the Complete FreeBSD book and got 4 CD-ROMs that have = FreeBSD 3.1 on them. I was able to boot from my CD-ROM and was able to = kick off the install process. I had hardware conflicts (13 to be = precise). I resolved all them by deleting ones that do not exist on my = computer. It correctly identifies my Intel Ethernet PRO/100 Network = Adapter (I can see it in the hardware list) but unfortunately does not = recognize my CD-ROM (Memorex, 48X, ATAPI). I tried to install via ftp as = I have high speed internet connection (DSL Modem, DHCP enabled). I could = not enable DHCP in the Install Options since that does not exist as an = option. I gave all the parameters including the IP Adress of my machine = (I got it by running ifconfig in RHL just before I rebooted my machine). = When I click on OK, my machine freezes and I had to hard boot! I tried = all available North American ftp sites with no luck. 2) I made two installation floppies of 4.2 kernel (kern.flp, = mfsroot.flp) following the instruction as given on the FreeBSD website. = I formatted both of my floppies before I wrote the images on them in = Win2K. I was able to boot from kern and then was also able to use = mfsroot. This time I get 7 conflicts all from hardware that is not at = all installed on my machine. So, I deleted them. But this time, I did = not see my Network Adapter in the hardware list! When I save the results = from the userconfig, I see hardware probe results scrolling by for about = 20 or 30 sec very quickly. I tried to use Scroll Lock with no avail. = Then I get a big blue screen which says something like "Probing your = devices. This may a take a while...." and it freezes again!. I waited = for more than 1 hour several times (trying different hardware options, = eventhough I could not see any errors while the probe went on). I even = tried creating the floppies in Linux but with no good results. Can some one point me in the right direction? Any help will be = appreciated. Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C92F.652010A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello
        I = am new=20 to the BSD world. I have a compaq pc (i686, 256MB of RAM) which has = Windows 2000=20 and RedHat Linux 7.0 installed on two different hard disks (Disk 1 = (20GB) -=20 Win2K and Disk 2 (30 GB) - RHL). I use Win 2K's NT boot loader = to boot=20 RH Linux and never had any problems. I wanted to install FreeBSD on my = first=20 hard disk. I made room for it (5 GB) on my first disk and created an = unformatted=20 partition using Partition Magic. This partiton is below the 1024 = Cylinders=20 limit. I tried two different ways to install with out any luck so=20 far:
1) I bought the Complete FreeBSD book = and got 4=20 CD-ROMs that have FreeBSD 3.1 on them. I was able to boot from my CD-ROM = and was=20 able to kick off the install process. I had hardware conflicts (13 to be = precise). I resolved all them by deleting ones that do not exist on my = computer.=20 It correctly identifies my Intel Ethernet PRO/100 Network Adapter (I can = see it=20 in the hardware list) but unfortunately does not recognize my CD-ROM = (Memorex,=20 48X, ATAPI). I tried to install via ftp as I have high speed internet = connection=20 (DSL Modem, DHCP enabled). I could not enable DHCP in the Install = Options=20 since that does not exist as an option.  I gave all = the=20 parameters including the IP Adress of my machine (I got it by = running=20 ifconfig in RHL just before I rebooted my machine). When I click on OK, = my=20 machine freezes and I had to hard boot! I tried all available North = American ftp=20 sites with no luck.
2) I made two installation floppies of = 4.2 kernel=20 (kern.flp, mfsroot.flp) following the instruction as given on the = FreeBSD=20 website. I formatted both of my floppies before I wrote the images on = them in=20 Win2K. I was able to boot from kern and then was also able to use = mfsroot. This=20 time I get 7 conflicts all from hardware that is not at all installed on = my=20 machine. So, I deleted them. But this time, I did not see my Network = Adapter in=20 the hardware list! When I save the results from the userconfig, I see = hardware=20 probe results scrolling by for about 20 or 30 sec very quickly. I tried = to use=20 Scroll Lock with no avail. Then I get a big blue screen which says = something=20 like "Probing your devices. This may a take a while...." and it freezes = again!.=20 I waited for more than 1 hour several times (trying different hardware = options,=20 eventhough I could not see any errors while the probe went on). I even = tried=20 creating the floppies in Linux but with no good results.
 
Can some one point me in the right = direction? Any=20 help will be appreciated.
 
Thanks
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0C92F.652010A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:19:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nameserver.austclear.com.au (nameserver.austclear.com.au [192.83.119.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E779937B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:19:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahl@austclear.com.au) Received: from tungsten.austclear.com.au (tungsten.austclear.com.au [192.168.70.1]) by nameserver.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA66072; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:19:34 +1000 (EST) Received: from tungsten (tungsten [192.168.70.1]) by tungsten.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14954; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:19:34 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200104200719.RAA14954@tungsten.austclear.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Ken Bolingbroke Cc: default013 , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: re-compiling sendmail In-Reply-To: Message from Ken Bolingbroke of "Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:40:01 MST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:19:34 +1000 From: Tony Landells Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you, That's the bit I was missing--there is a Makefile in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail that builds the software from /usr/src/contrib/sendmail. I knew there had to be something there somewhere--FreeBSD's just too good to NOT do it! Thanks again, Tony -- Tony Landells Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 Level 4, Rialto North Tower 525 Collins Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:21:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-sec1.zid.nextra.de (smtp-sec1.zid.nextra.de [212.255.127.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A4F37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:21:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ho@dsa-ac.de) Received: from KOMSERVER.dsa-ac.de ([212.169.172.226]) by smtp-sec1.zid.nextra.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA52821; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:21:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from PCHO (PCHO.dsa-ac.de [172.29.25.6]) by KOMSERVER.dsa-ac.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03399; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:21:44 +0200 Message-Id: <200104200721.JAA03399@KOMSERVER.dsa-ac.de> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Andreas Hofer" To: Ron Dzierwa Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:20:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Install problems Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <3ADFADA7.33A7205E@home.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:31:51 -0400 > From: Ron Dzierwa > Organization: Innovative Engineering, Inc. > To: Andreas Hofer > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Install problems > Andreas, > > I've dug into this one fairly deeply. I also thought about putting in the > > old tried and true wd driver, but didn't think it would work with the > new kernel. The fact that you got it to work is great, but, I think > the install is looking for ad disks, not wd's so it still, sadly, finds > none. Maybe you could play some games with the major device > number that the wd driver uses - make it appear to be the ad > driver.... > > the ctx laptop i'm using is not really that old. I bought it new at the > end of 1998. The problem seems to be in a routine (pci_get_progif) > that reads one of the registers from one of the pci chips. It seems > that it is returning a value that the ata driver does not recognize, and > thinks that the ide controller that it is configuring is not a "master" > device, and switches them from ata0 and 1 to ata2 and 3. There is > a conditional at the top of ata_all.c that defines a macro which > returns true or false depending upon the return value of get_progif. > As an experiment, I dummied out the macro to always return true > and the whole thing seemed to work. I can't seem to make the > kernel work with the install procedure - it gets through the boot > and complains that init is missing... > > how did you build a kernel that is compatible with the install > environment? > I have a running FreeBSD 4.1 workstation where I built the kernel on. > ron. > Well, as I said, it is not really compatible with the install environment. The kernel wd driver finds my controller and the harddrive, but the installer says it cannot find any hard drive. I guess that the device names (ad*) are hard coded in the installer binary and therefore wd* is not even tried. Anybody who knows how to change this? Andreas > > > Andreas Hofer wrote: > > > Hi, Ron, hi list, > > > > unfortunately I cannot help you very much. Just wanted to tell you > > that you are not alone: > > > > I tried to install 4.1 (and 4.2) on a rather outdated notebook > > (Oxford Artist, more or less identical to ACER notebook), facing > > exactly the same problem as you. The standard install kernel did'nt > > work at all. > > > > I then built a customized kernel with the older wd* devices and > > copied it over to the boot floppy. The kernel recognizes the > > controller, the disk and everything looks fine, but the installer > > still sees no disk. > > > > Maybe the installer is looking for the wrong nodes in /dev? Anybody > > there who knows a way to get the installer recognize the wd* devices? > > > > Andreas > > > > ============================================== > > > > Ron Dzierwa wrote: > > > > I have a CTX EzBook 800 series on which I have used FreeBSD version > > 2.2.6 since that version was current. At the time I had to use some > > of the PAO stuff to get the pcmcia enet to work, but everything else > > seemed to work > > > > fine. > > > > I just bought a new disk, and figured i'd install 4.2. The ata driver > > does not seem to live happily with the disk controller, however. and > > even the floppy driver seems to be having a problem (fdc0: cannot > > reserve I/O port range). The ata driver says: atapci0: > ATA controller> port 0xfcf0-0xfcff,0x374-0x377,0x170-0x177 > > ,0x2f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 18.1 on pci0 atapci0: Busmastering > > DMA not supported ata2: at 0x1f0 on atapci0 ata2: unable to allocate > > interrupt device_probe_and_attach: ata2 attach returned 6 ata3: at > > 0x170 on atapci0 ata3: unable to allocate interrupt > > device_probe_and_attach: ata3 attach returned 6 > > > > later on, when the sysinstall menu comes up and i try to allocate disk > > space it naturally tells me that there are no disks. > > > > the old kernel wd driver used to say: > > wdc0: at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > > wd0: 3102MB 96354432 sectors), 6304 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/t, 512 B/s > > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): > CD-ROM XM-1602B/1150>, removable, accel, dma, ior . .. > > > > I have tried enabling and disabling PNP in the bios, and using > > auto/user config for the disks. all combinations seem to yield the > > same results - it cant init the disk controllers. > > > > I have another FreeBSD system that I use as a workstation. I used it > > to build a kernel for the boot flop that would stop in the fd driver ( > > while(1) i++; makes an effective stopper) so that I could see the ata > > driver messages. If anybody has any fixes or suggestions, I could > > implement them and test them without any problem. > > > > any and all help is appreciated. I really would like to use 4.2 > > rather than going back to the old 2.2.6! > > > > thanks, > > ron. > > --- > > DSA - Daten- und Systemtechnik GmbH > > Dr. Ing. Andreas Hofer > > Pascalstrasse 28 > > 52076 Aachen- Oberforstbach > > Tel. : 0 24 08 - 94 92 43 > > FAX : 0 24 08 - 94 92 92 > > EMAIL: Andreas.Hofer@dsa-ac.de > > --- > > --- DSA - Daten- und Systemtechnik GmbH Dr. Ing. Andreas Hofer Pascalstrasse 28 52076 Aachen- Oberforstbach Tel. : 0 24 08 - 94 92 43 FAX : 0 24 08 - 94 92 92 EMAIL: Andreas.Hofer@dsa-ac.de --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:25: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f145.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24AD637B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:25:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:25:00 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.160 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:25:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.160] From: "Charles Burns" To: vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET Cc: seanp@loudcloud.com, jgowdy@home.com, lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:25:00 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 07:25:00.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[02AA6920:01C0C96B] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > >These are the only differences between the chips from my understanding >(if > > >I am > > >wrong I am sure someone here will set me straight) > > > > Right except the FSB is the same on both. FSB speed differs only between > > Intel chips. > > True except lots have been saying the Intel Celeron II 800 is >really the Celeron 533 overclocked. Well, yes, of course it is.Do you think there is any physical difference between the two besides labelling? Intel/AMD make their chips en masse. Bob's Athlon 1000 may well have been on the exact same silicon wafer as Joe's Athlon 1300 and Sam's Athlon 800. They test each chip and then mark them accordingly. If there is suddenly a huge demand for 900MHz Athlons and nobody wants the 1200's, AMD will sell 1200's as 900s. They are all the same chips made at the same time from the same plant (other than Durons) and all cost the same to manufacture. My computer--an Athlon classic week 42 (good week, heh) was sold as 500MHz, is marked as 600MHz, works at 700MHz just fine and with voltage boost will run at 800 rock-solid. There are several factors that determine what your chip runs at by default. Some are: *What it was tested to run at *What the market wants *What week the chip was manufactured in. AMD and Intel tweak their manufacturing process weekly and often get better yields later on. That's why the first Athlon's would be hard pressed to surpass 800 but can now often surpass 1500. *What size the transistors are (.18 micron, .25 micron, etc.) *What plant they were manufactured in *What metal is being used to connect the transistors (i.e. copper, aluminum) Chips that are close to the center of the silicon wafer (which is from 6 to 12 inches in diameter) tend to be better than those closer to the outside. *What semiconductor material is used. Some exotic chips use Gallium Arsenide or Germanium rather than silicon. Don't worry about this unless you are playing with Cray-class puters though. The final official clockspeed is usually more a matter of market conditions than what the chip is really capable of. The exception is that if you get a top of the line chip it is usually close to it's limit. The latest Athlons seem to be doing quite well as far as "overclocking" goes though. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:25:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www3.pacific-pages.com (www3.pacific-pages.com [192.41.48.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230A937B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:25:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@www3.pacific-pages.com) Received: from d.tracker ([207.245.46.247]) by www3.pacific-pages.com (8.8.5) id BAA14668; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:25:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3K7La428089 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:21:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:21:36 -0400 (EDT) From: David Banning Message-Id: <200104200721.f3K7La428089@d.tracker> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: changing fkeys: ioctl SETFKEY Reply-To: david@banning.com Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to reprogram my function keys, and it seems that this is not possible through the keymap settings because the function keys output multiple keytrokes, so they cannot be reprogrammed with xmodmap - only switched around with other existing keystrokes. It seems that the answer is in the man pages "keyboard" and "ioctl" but it is beyond my knowledge level. While I am learning some C programming, I do not understand the context in which ioctl and SETFKEY settings are to be implemented. Is there an example somewhere, or could someone give me an idea of where to start on learning what I need to know to accomplish my goal? Thanks - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:32: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f191.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.191]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349C537B440 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:32:06 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.160 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:32:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.160] From: "Charles Burns" To: kulraj@bosa.ca, vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET, seanp@loudcloud.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:32:05 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 07:32:06.0072 (UTC) FILETIME=[000A9B80:01C0C96C] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > 2) Tbirds are often made with copper rather than aluminum interconnects, > > which means lower resistance and theoretically higher clockspeeds. > >- Despite the name there is no copper in coppermines!! >- You can tell a copper T'Bird it'll have a blue tint the aluminum ones >have >a green tint. All the new C-Version CPU's I have seen are copper. There is no way that using a different interconnect technology could change the top of the color of a CPU core so the color difference is almost certainly related more to the fab facility than the metal interconnect technology. It's probably the use of a different final polish used before writing the label on the cores, thus if the Dresden plant started to manufacture aluminum based chips (which I seriously doubt will ever happen since they are outfitted for copper) they would still be blue. Just a little tid-bit. I am pretty sure that all new Athlons at and beyond 1GHz are copper. Copper is a better conductor than Aluminum, as you know, so is probably necessary to keep the heat level at only extremely hot rather than instant-silicon-vapor hot. Now if only they could figure out how to use Silver interconnects... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:32:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nameserver.austclear.com.au (nameserver.austclear.com.au [192.83.119.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE7837B43C; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahl@austclear.com.au) Received: from tungsten.austclear.com.au (tungsten.austclear.com.au [192.168.70.1]) by nameserver.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA66115; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:32:31 +1000 (EST) Received: from tungsten (tungsten [192.168.70.1]) by tungsten.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15105; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:32:31 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200104200732.RAA15105@tungsten.austclear.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Otter" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remote SecureID authentication anyone? In-Reply-To: Message from "Otter" of "Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:12:41 -0400." <000201c0c936$ffec3120$1400a8c0@zoso> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:32:31 +1000 From: Tony Landells Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG otterr@telocity.com said: > I'm looking to setup a machine in our office so a few of us can get in > on a VPN for network access after hours from home. I've heard VPNs are > possible. After discussing this with office management, they say the > only way we can do this is to use security in addition to passwords. > When I asked if our SecureID cards/keychains would work, they agreed > on it. Now... has anyone got this setup or something similar? I looked > on the mailing list archives with no luck... searched some web > pages... I even remember ssh2 using it, but now I don't see any > reference to it in the openssh or ssh2 makefiles. Answers and/or > suggestions are greatly appreciated. To some extent this depends what you're intending to use for your VPN. The SecurID server can be configured to handle RADIUS authentication, so any VPN software that can do RADIUS can do SecurID. Tony -- Tony Landells Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 Level 4, Rialto North Tower 525 Collins Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:34:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Cybox.demon.nl (cybox.demon.nl [212.238.95.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0FF37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:34:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bas@cybox.nl) Received: from bas (Dyna4.cybox.net [192.168.1.13]) by Cybox.demon.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3K7b7T02415 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:37:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bas@cybox.nl) Message-ID: <003c01c0c96c$424cbc30$0d01a8c0@bas> Reply-To: "Bas Hendriks" From: "Bas Hendriks" To: Subject: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:33:54 +0200 Organization: CYBOX internet & communicatie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-questions bas@cybox.demon.nl ________________________________________________________________ Bas Hendriks, Bas@cybox.nl, 0485-578979, http://www.cybox.nl CYBOX internet & communicatie, Marktstraat 7, 5831 HM BOXMEER tel.: 0485-471774, fax: 0485-471727, E-mail: mail@cybox.nl ________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:36: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B400F37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:35:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10268; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:35:43 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:35:42 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > This is all getting highly offtopic, but it is very interesting. Atleast no one is being biased ;-) > > > > and are available with up to a 200MHZ bus. > > > > > > They both have a 200mhz bus. Not up to, but 200mhz. > > > > Wouldn't that factor alone make it smoke the Intels? > > NO. No one factor EVER determines a winner in a processor war. There are so > depressingly many factors that determine system performance, every one of > them very important for certain types of software and unimportant for others > and varying between the two at uneven levels for every other type of > software. True but I thought one of the original hype of the Athlon was that it was a 200FSB instead of Intel's 100FSB. > Three things seem to be widely believe to be either all that matters or all > that is really important. CPU clockspeed, FSB clockspeed, memory clockspeed. > Even if these THREE things all have very high numbers, there are just too > damn many other factors. > > Intel's marketing/engineering team has built for us the perfect example. > > The Pentium 4 runs at 1.7GHz recently, has a 400MHz bus, and has 800MHz > memory, yet it is the slowest modern architecture of the big three that you > can buy. Here are some of the many, many reasons why: > > CPU@1700MHz: Does very little per clock (very low IPC), has very little > cache memory > > FSB@400 MHZ (actually 100QDR--whatever). Umm, the FSB is fast and I can;t > think of any disadvantages, but it doesn't make up for other weaknesses. > > RAM@800MHz. (Yes, I know it's actually 200QDR--whatever). That's all find > and dandy until you use a 16-bit bus instead of a 64-bit bus, and increase > memory latency with every RDRAM module that you add on top of an already > high latency. They fixed the wrong problem and broke the right one. > Bandwidth VS. Latency. It's all marketing. Hmmm, isn't there one more thing about the P4 that it uses the PII's FPU and is less advanced than the PIII's? > The Athlon is overall faster but the much faster FSB is only one factor. > Take away any one advantage that the Athlon has and remove maybe 1%-3% of > its performance. Its when all of those little touches are combined that the > whole becomes greater than the sum of its parts. (Actually they end up > exactly equal, but that sounded better ;-) Okay, I guess the reason I asked earlier about using PC133 SDRAM versus DDR is that I have 768MB (3 256MB) PC133 modules already on my Intel platform and it seems like the DDR has 184 pins versus 168 pins so I have to make a new investment so that's why I was asking if the performance hit will be big if I got one of the VIA KT133A chipset motherboards and ran a AMD 1.33Ghz DDR CPU on it or would that be a big no? > The P3 tried to get the edge on performance by taking a single factor--the > L2 cache bandwidth--and going for extreme values on that. Now the P3 has the > fastest L2 cache in the world, but because most or all of the many factors > have to compliment each-other, it's potential performance improvement was > killed by many other bottlenecks, like the ancient core, the GTL+ bus, the > slower and lower number of PUs, the shallower pipelining of the FPUs, etc. True... I guess what Intel needs is to work on newer stuff in secret and then all of the sudden just release it rather than having the entire world expecting some announcement on so and so date.. heh. > > Atleast it sounds better at AMD than it does at Intel. A Celeron > >II is a Pentium III with 1/2 the cache, higher latency cache and 4way > >cache instead of 8 ways. > > Setting cache to be more associative doesn't necessarily make it faster. > 2-way set associative cache has a lesser miss penalty than 4-way or 8-way. > It just so happens that in most cases the cache is slower because of the > setting and the way that it is used. > The Celeron 2 somewhat irritates me because it shows Intel's gross profit > margins. It is the exact same core as the P3, so the P3 can clearly be sold > for much cheaper. Good thing for AMD to shave their margins down. > At least AMD is decent enough to make the Duron a separate core. Maybe the Celeron 2 is really just P3's that don't past certain tests and instead of putting it in the trash or as problem chips, the marketing department thinks of selling it as a lower end CPU. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:39:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f39.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F6C37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:39:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:39:15 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.160 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:39:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.160] From: "Charles Burns" To: vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET Cc: lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:39:15 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 07:39:15.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[00490EA0:01C0C96D] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > It has been replaced by the i815 chipset, which supports 133MHz RAM and > > ATA100 whereas the BX supports only 100MHz RAM and ATA33. It allows for >only > > 512MB RAM though so is totally unsuitable for any serious server. > > Actually, that isn't true since the BX motherboards have been >redone by many motherboard manufacturers to do 133Mhz and then ATA100 via >a third party (HigPoint/Promise) chipset. My ABIT BE6II v2.0 for example >has 768MB of RAM and is running at 133Mhz with ATA100 drives on the third >and fourth controllers while the first two controlls are ATA33. The i815 >is faster but the BX is supposed to be the better made chipset. That's quite a system you have there. Running at 133MHz is out of spec though and the ATA100 is done outside of the chipset. That can be done on any system and is in fact done on many of the VIA based Athlon boards to double the available ATA channels (and go from 66 to 100). These boards are just trying to stretch the life of a dying chipset. As far as speed, AFAIK the BX at 133MHz is faster than the i815 and is in fact probably the fastest SDR-RAM chipset that has and ever will be made. As far as not overclocking anything (the BX is even today speced at 100MHz) the i815 has basically replaced it. They probably should have just tweaked the BX, but they probably wanted to add the memory limitation so that P3s with SDRAM couldn't compete with P3 and P4 Rambust systems. Or something. Who knows? P.S. Can we trade? :-) > > > I would call the BX the best chipset ever made by Intel. It remained the > > best the longest and is to a degree still useful today. My server uses >one > > and despite my preference for AMD stuff for most cases, it works >beautifully > > with its little P2-400. > > I guess you're right that the BX is the best chipset ever made by >Intel. It's also been a favorite for system tweakers for the past few >years since motherboard manufacturers have been tweaking it to 133Mhz and >even 150Mhz plus added support for UltraDMA 100 via third party chipsets. >The only advantage the 815 has over the 440BX is the AGP 4x while the >440BX is 2x. > > > > I thought they recalled it as soon as they announced it, this was > > >what drove their stock prices down. > > > > Nope, they recalled it only after multiple waves of proof that it was > > faulty. They shipped many of them to manufacturers, but AFAIK no systems > > were shipped before the recall. Intel announced the recall after many >tests > > were done by review sites. I believe that TomsHardware was officially > > credited, which I suppose he deserves because he picked up quite alot of > > "You are anti-intel and I will never trust you again" flak. > > I bet it was very satisfying to be able to say "Told ya so!", but I >doubt he > > did being a mature person. ;-) > > I forgot, I sold my Intel shares right before they did the recall >and was counting my money to the bank, all 1700% gain of it! ;-) > > > > Yeah, true... Now, only if there is a AMD 760 chipset based > > >motherboard with a ISA slot since I need it for my $600 soundcard :( > > > > (jerks head backwards in shock) Damn. I normally say "Get an SBLive!" >when I > > hear about ISA card woes, but unless that card is very old it must have >some > > very spiffy features to cost that much. Professional musician? > > Well, back in 1997, I needed the SPDIF inputs so it was a >replacement for my GUS (I know, I run the GUS Mailing lists) and that was >what was recommended. It's still in production today... Terratec >AudioSystem EWS64XL which is German Made... http://www.terratec-us.com. >The new Hercules by Guillemot GameTheater XP seems to be similar these >days but not sure how it sounds. > > > > > Asus generally makes the most stable motherboards. > > > > > > True but I think ABIT motherboards have been good as well. ASUS > > >has a problem with the ATA100 area from what I heard. > > > > All manufacturers have problems here and there. MSI and Tyan make great > > boards too, but all have had their flops and their boards that were >perfect > > besides one or two serious (and later fixed) bugs. In general, stepping > > back, Asus seems to overall make the best boards most consistantly. >Abit's > > are good too, I like them both. > > I know ASUS has always been the recommended one. ABIT is the one >that makes tweaking possible and then MSI and Tyan are good but they are >slower in performance. > > > > > I often hear "Such-and-such a site is anti [AMD/Intel/Cyrix] because >of > > > > such-and-such." > > > > > > Yeah but on Anantech, atleast in the forums, people are all for > > >the Athlon with very few for the Intel side. > > > > The way I see it, that says something for the Athlon--not something >against > > Anandtech. > > Yeah, atleast there are supporters! > > > The people in the forum are hardware enthusiasts and are far more >educated > > about hardware (as I am sure you are) than the general public. > > True... It was more funny reading about the P4 versus Athlon >there. > > > I usually quote Tom's over Anandtech though--I mean--how competant could >a > > computer review crew really be when they choose to use Windows above all > > else for their server platform? I guess that's another issue entirely > > though. ;-) > > True but I think the Anandtech people are more Linux people... >That's even when I became part of the tacube dnet team, I added Team >FreeBSD after my name ;-) > > > > > Usually Tom's Hardware is accused more than Anandtech because they >are > > >more > > > > apt to be harsh on something that doesn't live up to the hype, but > > >Anandtech > > > > isn't immune. > > > > > > I haven't visited Tom's Hardware in ages... > > > > That's ok. As the joke goes, you probably saw his latest article last >time > > you visited. }:> > > I visit for his daily summary of news so I don't need to go to 15 >different > > sites. Just Tom's, The Register, Anandtech and /. > > Hehe, I don't goto Tom's because I goto storagereview, anandtech >and reading the forums and newsgroups takes too much time already. I do >goto Tom's when I am trying to look up some info.. > > >Cheers, >Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ >Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ >] >WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] >] >San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] >] >HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin >/_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] >Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:51:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from keupon.admin.clubint.net (keupon.admin.clubint.net [194.117.201.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DE237B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:51:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ng@keupon.admin.clubint.net) Received: (from ng@localhost) by keupon.admin.clubint.net (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f3K7pH409852 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:51:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ng) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:51:17 +0200 From: Nicolas Grieco To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: pty's Message-ID: <20010420095117.A9466@t-online.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm really sorry about the newbie style of my question but how can i change the max pty on a FreeBSD ? _ ASCII RIBBON / \ CAMPAIGN Glab. \ / - X AGAINST HTML / \ MAIL To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:56:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC6B37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:56:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10708; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:56:23 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:56:22 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > > > >These are the only differences between the chips from my understanding > >(if > > > >I am > > > >wrong I am sure someone here will set me straight) > > > > > > Right except the FSB is the same on both. FSB speed differs only between > > > Intel chips. > > > > True except lots have been saying the Intel Celeron II 800 is > >really the Celeron 533 overclocked. > > Well, yes, of course it is.Do you think there is any physical difference > between the two besides labelling? > Intel/AMD make their chips en masse. > > Bob's Athlon 1000 may well have been on the exact same silicon wafer as > Joe's Athlon 1300 and Sam's Athlon 800. They test each chip and then mark > them accordingly. Not really... > If there is suddenly a huge demand for 900MHz Athlons and nobody wants the > 1200's, AMD will sell 1200's as 900s. They are all the same chips made at > the same time from the same plant (other than Durons) and all cost the same > to manufacture. Maybe the ones that don't past certain tests are relabeled as the lower end ones... > My computer--an Athlon classic week 42 (good week, heh) was sold as 500MHz, > is marked as 600MHz, works at 700MHz just fine and with voltage boost will > run at 800 rock-solid. Hehe. I just hope you didn't get charged a 600Mhz prive for a 500Mhz chip.. > There are several factors that determine what your chip runs at by default. > Some are: > *What it was tested to run at > *What the market wants > *What week the chip was manufactured in. AMD and Intel tweak their > manufacturing process weekly and often get better yields later on. That's > why the first Athlon's would be hard pressed to surpass 800 but can now > often surpass 1500. > *What size the transistors are (.18 micron, .25 micron, etc.) > *What plant they were manufactured in > *What metal is being used to connect the transistors (i.e. copper, aluminum) > Chips that are close to the center of the silicon wafer (which is from 6 to > 12 inches in diameter) tend to be better than those closer to the outside. > *What semiconductor material is used. Some exotic chips use Gallium Arsenide > or Germanium rather than silicon. Don't worry about this unless you are > playing with Cray-class puters though. > > The final official clockspeed is usually more a matter of market conditions > than what the chip is really capable of. The exception is that if you get a > top of the line chip it is usually close to it's limit. The latest Athlons > seem to be doing quite well as far as "overclocking" goes though. Yep, if they can do those speeds then it must be working. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 0:59:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f83.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C23337B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:59:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:59:26 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.160 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:59:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.160] From: "Charles Burns" To: vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET Cc: jgowdy@home.com, seanp@loudcloud.com, lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:59:26 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 07:59:26.0860 (UTC) FILETIME=[D206FCC0:01C0C96F] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hmmm, isn't there one more thing about the P4 that it uses the >PII's FPU and is less advanced than the PIII's? The P2's FPU /is/ the P3's FPU. The P3 is just a P2 with some new instructions pasted on (SSE) and now with a tweaked L2 cache. Hardly the generational gap between the P1 and the P2. I swear Intel is getting almost 10% as bad as Microsoft--letting the marketing team run the whole company. > Okay, I guess the reason I asked earlier about using PC133 SDRAM >versus DDR is that I have 768MB (3 256MB) PC133 modules already on my >Intel platform and it seems like the DDR has 184 pins versus 168 pins so I >have to make a new investment so that's why I was asking if the >performance hit will be big if I got one of the VIA KT133A chipset >motherboards and ran a AMD 1.33Ghz DDR CPU on it or would that be a big >no? If you have 768MB of SDR RAM don't even touch DDR. DDR may be twice as fast but here in the real world it is only 1% to 10% faster. Hardly a reason to spend hundreds of dollars on more RAM, IMO. Of course you seem to have money so you may just want to go for it. Hell, why not wait for the Tyan dual-Athlon mobo then stick two 1533MHz Palomino Athlons in it and 4 256MB modules. Do a make -j 10 world and don't tell me how fast it goes. > True... I guess what Intel needs is to work on newer stuff in >secret and then all of the sudden just release it rather than having the >entire world expecting some announcement on so and so date.. heh. Then they'd have a great product that just the hardware enthusiasts would know about. It's a marketing world and they have to hype products months (indeed-Years) in advance to get the word out among the 95% of people that don't know Megahertz from megabytes and think Windows is the only game in town--but know that MSword 2010 won't take a week to load if they buy the new whiz-bang Pentium-5. Weird name, BTW. Pentium basically means "five-ium". We are now on the Fiveium-four. Can't wait for the Fiveium-five. > Maybe the Celeron 2 is really just P3's that don't past certain >tests and instead of putting it in the trash or as problem chips, the >marketing department thinks of selling it as a lower end CPU. Remember 486SX's? Intel originally destroyed all 486s the had bad FPUs. They later decided to go ahead and try to market them and, to their surprise, they sold very well. It was only many months later that they actually began making 486s that had no FPUs. In fact, some SX's had WORKING FPU's that had just been disabled to keep up with demand. That said, the Celeron 2's may be dug out of Intel's stock of P3's that had some (not all) bad cache, saved because of the 486SX lesson they learned. Too bad they use another 486 idea today--having only 8K of L1 cache memory on the Pentium IV. If the trend of lowering performance continues, we might see marketing like: "The new Pentium 'VI'--runs the 'VI' editor without long processing delays!" (...Then AMD market's the new AMD EMACS processor) Hmm, ya know I haven't written one word about FreeBSD in the last 10 or so messages. This is getting really bad. Sorry for spamming everyone! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1: 0:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BBF37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:59:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10750; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:59:45 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:59:45 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > > > It has been replaced by the i815 chipset, which supports 133MHz RAM and > > > ATA100 whereas the BX supports only 100MHz RAM and ATA33. It allows for > >only > > > 512MB RAM though so is totally unsuitable for any serious server. > > > > Actually, that isn't true since the BX motherboards have been > >redone by many motherboard manufacturers to do 133Mhz and then ATA100 via > >a third party (HigPoint/Promise) chipset. My ABIT BE6II v2.0 for example > >has 768MB of RAM and is running at 133Mhz with ATA100 drives on the third > >and fourth controllers while the first two controlls are ATA33. The i815 > >is faster but the BX is supposed to be the better made chipset. > > That's quite a system you have there. Running at 133MHz is out of spec > though and the ATA100 is done outside of the chipset. That can be done on > any system and is in fact done on many of the VIA based Athlon boards to > double the available ATA channels (and go from 66 to 100). Yep, I kept thinking the VIA KT133A was ATA100 but until I looked today, it was ATA33. > These boards are just trying to stretch the life of a dying chipset. > As far as speed, AFAIK the BX at 133MHz is faster than the i815 and is in > fact probably the fastest SDR-RAM chipset that has and ever will be made. As > far as not overclocking anything (the BX is even today speced at 100MHz) the > i815 has basically replaced it. They probably should have just tweaked the > BX, but they probably wanted to add the memory limitation so that P3s with > SDRAM couldn't compete with P3 and P4 Rambust systems. Or something. Who > knows? Heh, that's probably true... It's kind of like the high-end notebooks from IBM and Dell. The IBM A21P is using the 440BX chipset while the Dell Inspiron 8000 uses the i815. Both of them don't have the speedstep features as they aren't using notebook chipsets so you do lose something for the better performance. > P.S. Can we trade? :-) Hehe... I'll probably sell my motherboard and CPU to a friend after I get the new TBird and motherboard :-) Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > > > I would call the BX the best chipset ever made by Intel. It remained the > > > best the longest and is to a degree still useful today. My server uses > >one > > > and despite my preference for AMD stuff for most cases, it works > >beautifully > > > with its little P2-400. > > > > I guess you're right that the BX is the best chipset ever made by > >Intel. It's also been a favorite for system tweakers for the past few > >years since motherboard manufacturers have been tweaking it to 133Mhz and > >even 150Mhz plus added support for UltraDMA 100 via third party chipsets. > >The only advantage the 815 has over the 440BX is the AGP 4x while the > >440BX is 2x. > > > > > > I thought they recalled it as soon as they announced it, this was > > > >what drove their stock prices down. > > > > > > Nope, they recalled it only after multiple waves of proof that it was > > > faulty. They shipped many of them to manufacturers, but AFAIK no systems > > > were shipped before the recall. Intel announced the recall after many > >tests > > > were done by review sites. I believe that TomsHardware was officially > > > credited, which I suppose he deserves because he picked up quite alot of > > > "You are anti-intel and I will never trust you again" flak. > > > I bet it was very satisfying to be able to say "Told ya so!", but I > >doubt he > > > did being a mature person. ;-) > > > > I forgot, I sold my Intel shares right before they did the recall > >and was counting my money to the bank, all 1700% gain of it! ;-) > > > > > > Yeah, true... Now, only if there is a AMD 760 chipset based > > > >motherboard with a ISA slot since I need it for my $600 soundcard :( > > > > > > (jerks head backwards in shock) Damn. I normally say "Get an SBLive!" > >when I > > > hear about ISA card woes, but unless that card is very old it must have > >some > > > very spiffy features to cost that much. Professional musician? > > > > Well, back in 1997, I needed the SPDIF inputs so it was a > >replacement for my GUS (I know, I run the GUS Mailing lists) and that was > >what was recommended. It's still in production today... Terratec > >AudioSystem EWS64XL which is German Made... http://www.terratec-us.com. > >The new Hercules by Guillemot GameTheater XP seems to be similar these > >days but not sure how it sounds. > > > > > > > Asus generally makes the most stable motherboards. > > > > > > > > True but I think ABIT motherboards have been good as well. ASUS > > > >has a problem with the ATA100 area from what I heard. > > > > > > All manufacturers have problems here and there. MSI and Tyan make great > > > boards too, but all have had their flops and their boards that were > >perfect > > > besides one or two serious (and later fixed) bugs. In general, stepping > > > back, Asus seems to overall make the best boards most consistantly. > >Abit's > > > are good too, I like them both. > > > > I know ASUS has always been the recommended one. ABIT is the one > >that makes tweaking possible and then MSI and Tyan are good but they are > >slower in performance. > > > > > > > I often hear "Such-and-such a site is anti [AMD/Intel/Cyrix] because > >of > > > > > such-and-such." > > > > > > > > Yeah but on Anantech, atleast in the forums, people are all for > > > >the Athlon with very few for the Intel side. > > > > > > The way I see it, that says something for the Athlon--not something > >against > > > Anandtech. > > > > Yeah, atleast there are supporters! > > > > > The people in the forum are hardware enthusiasts and are far more > >educated > > > about hardware (as I am sure you are) than the general public. > > > > True... It was more funny reading about the P4 versus Athlon > >there. > > > > > I usually quote Tom's over Anandtech though--I mean--how competant could > >a > > > computer review crew really be when they choose to use Windows above all > > > else for their server platform? I guess that's another issue entirely > > > though. ;-) > > > > True but I think the Anandtech people are more Linux people... > >That's even when I became part of the tacube dnet team, I added Team > >FreeBSD after my name ;-) > > > > > > > Usually Tom's Hardware is accused more than Anandtech because they > >are > > > >more > > > > > apt to be harsh on something that doesn't live up to the hype, but > > > >Anandtech > > > > > isn't immune. > > > > > > > > I haven't visited Tom's Hardware in ages... > > > > > > That's ok. As the joke goes, you probably saw his latest article last > >time > > > you visited. }:> > > > I visit for his daily summary of news so I don't need to go to 15 > >different > > > sites. Just Tom's, The Register, Anandtech and /. > > > > Hehe, I don't goto Tom's because I goto storagereview, anandtech > >and reading the forums and newsgroups takes too much time already. I do > >goto Tom's when I am trying to look up some info.. > > > > > >Cheers, > >Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ > >Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ > >] > >WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] > >] > >San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] > >] > >HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin > >/_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > >Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1: 2: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uj.pfi.lt (uj.pfi.lt [193.219.52.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6549637B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:01:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Radical@hardcore.lt) Received: from tyras (megalogika.stp.lt [193.219.52.197]) by uj.pfi.lt (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f3K7mEb00863 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:48:22 +0200 From: "Radical" To: Subject: /kernel: arplookup ? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:00:53 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Today I was looked throw the /var/log/messages and found interesting errors Exactly I found a lot off messages like this one: /kernel: arplookup 193.219.5.2 failed: host is not on local network all the messages are the same. my server IP is 193.219.6.84. 193.219.5.2 I'm using us DNS server. May be someone already familiar with this problem and can suggest how to solve it Thank in advance Radical To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1: 5:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69FA37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:05:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10834; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:05:17 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:05:17 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > > Hmmm, isn't there one more thing about the P4 that it uses the > >PII's FPU and is less advanced than the PIII's? > > The P2's FPU /is/ the P3's FPU. The P3 is just a P2 with some new > instructions pasted on (SSE) and now with a tweaked L2 cache. Hardly the > generational gap between the P1 and the P2. I swear Intel is getting almost > 10% as bad as Microsoft--letting the marketing team run the whole company. Hmmm, I just remember reading that the P4's FPU is like worst than the P3's so it may be one that was even before the P2. > > Okay, I guess the reason I asked earlier about using PC133 SDRAM > >versus DDR is that I have 768MB (3 256MB) PC133 modules already on my > >Intel platform and it seems like the DDR has 184 pins versus 168 pins so I > >have to make a new investment so that's why I was asking if the > >performance hit will be big if I got one of the VIA KT133A chipset > >motherboards and ran a AMD 1.33Ghz DDR CPU on it or would that be a big > >no? > > If you have 768MB of SDR RAM don't even touch DDR. DDR may be twice as fast > but here in the real world it is only 1% to 10% faster. Hardly a reason to > spend hundreds of dollars on more RAM, IMO. Of course you seem to have money > so you may just want to go for it. Hell, why not wait for the Tyan > dual-Athlon mobo then stick two 1533MHz Palomino Athlons in it and 4 256MB > modules. Do a make -j 10 world and don't tell me how fast it goes. Hmmm, that's a idea I guess.... What's currently the speed record for a make world build? > > True... I guess what Intel needs is to work on newer stuff in > >secret and then all of the sudden just release it rather than having the > >entire world expecting some announcement on so and so date.. heh. > > Then they'd have a great product that just the hardware enthusiasts would > know about. It's a marketing world and they have to hype products months > (indeed-Years) in advance to get the word out among the 95% of people that > don't know Megahertz from megabytes and think Windows is the only game in > town--but know that MSword 2010 won't take a week to load if they buy the > new whiz-bang Pentium-5. Yeah... I guess marketing and the software and hardware vendors helping each other to make each others products obselete. > Weird name, BTW. Pentium basically means "five-ium". We are now on the > Fiveium-four. Can't wait for the Fiveium-five. or the Fiveium-six! > > Maybe the Celeron 2 is really just P3's that don't past certain > >tests and instead of putting it in the trash or as problem chips, the > >marketing department thinks of selling it as a lower end CPU. > > Remember 486SX's? Intel originally destroyed all 486s the had bad FPUs. They > later decided to go ahead and try to market them and, to their surprise, > they sold very well. It was only many months later that they actually began > making 486s that had no FPUs. In fact, some SX's had WORKING FPU's that had > just been disabled to keep up with demand. That said, the Celeron 2's may be > dug out of Intel's stock of P3's that had some (not all) bad cache, saved > because of the 486SX lesson they learned. Yep, I guess they are taking advantage of all the sand used ;) > Too bad they use another 486 idea today--having only 8K of L1 cache memory > on the Pentium IV. Yeah... 8k is really bad. I guess with all these cost cutting, companies are just releasing things with less things in them. > If the trend of lowering performance continues, we might see marketing like: > > "The new Pentium 'VI'--runs the 'VI' editor without long processing delays!" > (...Then AMD market's the new AMD EMACS processor) > > Hmm, ya know I haven't written one word about FreeBSD in the last 10 or so > messages. This is getting really bad. Sorry for spamming everyone! Atleast vi is from Berkeley! Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1: 9: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f256.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.16.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1459837B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:09:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:08:58 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.160 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:08:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.160] From: "Charles Burns" To: vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET Cc: seanp@loudcloud.com, jgowdy@home.com, lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:08:58 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 08:08:58.0993 (UTC) FILETIME=[270B8E10:01C0C971] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Bob's Athlon 1000 may well have been on the exact same silicon wafer as > > Joe's Athlon 1300 and Sam's Athlon 800. They test each chip and then >mark > > them accordingly. > > Not really... I have seen this many times before, not only with my very own CPU but in other circumstances ad well. Remember all the press a few years back about how a certain marking of P2-300s would overclock to 450MHz and even 500--when 450MHz was the fastest P2 at the time? That was a remarking. Actually why delve into the past? Take almost any newly manufactured low-end or mid-range chip today, even intel chips. Yields have been very good, especially for AMD. Quite a few of these chips are remarked well below what their test value was. I have heard (but haven't verified at all or seen for myself) that some of the latest Athlons of series AXIA and AZIA are labelled at around 1500MHz. > > 1200's, AMD will sell 1200's as 900s. They are all the same chips made >at > > the same time from the same plant (other than Durons) and all cost the >same > > to manufacture. > > Maybe the ones that don't past certain tests are relabeled as the >lower end ones... Do you think that AMD and Intel have a different set of manufacturing equipment for each and every CPU revision? How inneficient would that be, balancing the production capacity of each one with the market demand. This is actually fairly public knowledge. Please feel free to contact either manufacturer on the issue... Don't trust me, trust the source. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1:14:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4321537B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:14:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 81496 invoked by uid 100); 20 Apr 2001 08:14:04 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15071.61388.695526.323227@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:14:04 -0500 To: "Charles Burns" Cc: mwm@mired.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charles Burns types: > >RISC is pretty much vertical microcode. WISC - which didn't make quite > >the same splash - is pretty much horizontal microcode. People wanting > >to build fast CISC computers have done so by microcoding them for a > >long time, usually using vertical microcode. The 370 line was that > >way, as well the high end of the PDP-11 line was that way. > > Uhh. > My impression was that RISC=Reduced Instruction Set (chip/computer) meant > make the chip simpler (but harder to program at the asm level) and execute > more, simpler instructions. > > CISC=have complex instructions and lots of them thus having a higher IPC but > many theoretically unneeded transistors. > > Microcode=Simple software internal to chips or imbedded into battery-backed > ROM or FlashROM used to do things like fix simple processor bugs that > software can fix. I'm using the term microcode in a different manner. Macrocode is the "native" machine code that is generated by compilers. If a CPU is microcoded, then macrocode isn't run by the hardware directly, but is interpreted by microcode programs sometimes called "microprograms". That program is the microcode for the machine, and is written in microcode, which overloads the term. You can tweak the microprogram to do things like fix simple processor bugs. In at least one instance (the Nanodata QM/1), the microcode was itself interpreted by another layer, which Nanodata called "nanocode". > What is vertical and horizontal microcoding? If I am wrong I certainly want > to know--and I am curious as to what you are talking about as I have never > even heard these terms before. Vertical microcode looks like RISC machine instructions: move, add, load and store, etc. Horizontal microcode assigns a bit field to every gate in the machine, and each instruction sets the fields to control the data flow in the machine. > >Cray didn't have to implement a CISC instruction set, so the Cray I > >instruction set is very RISC-like, with the exception of the > >instructions for dealing with the array processor hanging off the > >back. > Was RISC vs CISC (terms which didn't even exist in the 70's then the Cray1 > was being built) even an issue then? It wasn't a conscious issue. There were machines with complex instructions sets. The Cray's instruction set - except for the vector processing instructions - wasn't. > Vector processors have such different > priorities than the processors that every other computer uses. > What do you mean by "hanging off the back"? You should be a speaker at > Defcon--They love to absorb esoteric and almost unknown computer knowledge. > (scratches head) Umm. Where can I get more info about this? My references are all in storage. You might try doing web searches for Nanodata, RISC, and writable control store. Sorry I can't provide better pointers. I'm not sure I know Defcon, but if it's got anything to do with the defense industry, they would be major consumers of this technology. > >The truly cool machines had a writable control store. > Huh? Microcode lived in the "control store". Some machines had control stores that could be written by the user, allowing you to alter the instruction sets of the machines after they left the factory. I still think that's really cool. > >The PDP-11 kit > >sold by Heathkit included that as an option. BBN had the ultimate Unix > >version, though - they included a C compiler and WCS linker so you > >could write new instructions in C, so your function calls turned into > >single instructions. > What does all this have to do with the price of tea in China? It's all very > interesting, but it seems like a collection of random unrelated computer > tidbits. I may just not see the point as this is mostly new to me other than > the PDP11 (which is still used today) and the Cray, sortof. Mostly, it's just public reminiscing triggered by seeing RISC and microcode in the same message. > >My favorite microcode oddity is the IBM PC card IBM sold that used a > >68K chip with custom microcode to interpret 370 machine instructions > >so you could run MVS software on your x86 PC. > > Are you one of those original hardware hackers that made new opcodes by > rewiring large circuitboards on $10Million IBM mainframes or...?? Nah, I'm not a hardware hacker. I've added instructions to machines by writing vertical microcode, and I've implemented machines in horizontal nanocode. In the latter case, we designed extensions to C for the application at hand - building jet aircraft simulators - then designed a micromachine using vertical microcode that would be easy to generate using that extended C, then I got to implement that micromachine. > I can't decide whether to be humbled or perplexed or both. Um. Ya. Certainly not humbled. Perplexed, I can understand. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1:15:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6646537B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:15:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10985; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:15:29 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:15:29 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > > > Bob's Athlon 1000 may well have been on the exact same silicon wafer as > > > Joe's Athlon 1300 and Sam's Athlon 800. They test each chip and then > >mark > > > them accordingly. > > > > Not really... > > I have seen this many times before, not only with my very own CPU but in > other circumstances ad well. Remember all the press a few years back about > how a certain marking of P2-300s would overclock to 450MHz and even > 500--when 450MHz was the fastest P2 at the time? That was a remarking. > Actually why delve into the past? Take almost any newly manufactured low-end > or mid-range chip today, even intel chips. Yields have been very good, > especially for AMD. Quite a few of these chips are remarked well below what > their test value was. I have heard (but haven't verified at all or seen for > myself) that some of the latest Athlons of series AXIA and AZIA are labelled > at around 1500MHz. I heard someone actually got one of the AXIA's to hit 2Ghz, don't know the truth to that one though. > > > 1200's, AMD will sell 1200's as 900s. They are all the same chips made > >at > > > the same time from the same plant (other than Durons) and all cost the > >same > > > to manufacture. > > > > Maybe the ones that don't past certain tests are relabeled as the > >lower end ones... > > Do you think that AMD and Intel have a different set of manufacturing > equipment for each and every CPU revision? How inneficient would that be, > balancing the production capacity of each one with the market demand. This > is actually fairly public knowledge. Please feel free to contact either > manufacturer on the issue... Don't trust me, trust the source. Ofcourse not since that would cost a fortune... :) I guess the way they do it is like memory, those that don't meet the highest spec and resold as a lower spec. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1:17:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uj.pfi.lt (uj.pfi.lt [193.219.52.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D63337B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:17:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Radical@hardcore.lt) Received: from tyras (megalogika.stp.lt [193.219.52.197]) by uj.pfi.lt (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f3K83Sb00986; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:03:29 +0200 From: "Radical" To: "Joe Guetler" , "Info" Cc: Subject: RE: Named strangeness Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:16:06 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 In-Reply-To: <3ADF03F3.D00D3AE9@axiomadvertising.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Looks like it is zone transfer connections. In one machine you have master zones. On other machine the slave zones are configured to fetch data of certain zone form your master zone server. I think it is the reason of this connection. In your master zone SOA you can change the setting like "expire" and zone will be transferred more rarely. I'm not 100 percents sure that this connections really belongs to zone transfers. But it is possible. Radical > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Joe Guetler > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 17:28 > To: Info > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Named strangeness > > > Apr 18 17:02:24 server1 named[13047]: starting (/etc/namedb/named.conf). > named 8.2.3-REL Tue Jan 30 11:59:25 CST 2001 > root@foo.bar.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named > > FreeBSD server1 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 30 13:42:37 > CST 2001 root@server1:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 > > > Connection attempt to UDP 216.251.6.158:4329 from 216.251.6.158:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP 216.251.6.158:4365 from 216.251.6.158:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP 216.251.6.158:4460 from 216.251.6.158:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP 216.251.6.158:4476 from 216.251.6.158:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP 216.251.6.158:4495 from 216.251.6.158:53 > > Connection attempt to UDP 216.251.6.158:4516 from 216.251.6.158:53 > > Joe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1:18: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709F337B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from KYLECOOL@aol.com) Received: from KYLECOOL@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.14.) id n.c8.1392ffbf (18712) for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:17:57 -0400 (EDT) From: KYLECOOL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:17:57 EDT Subject: question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i cant find out where you download the freebsd software. i see ftp sites. where is a site via: http:// To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1:23:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl (studict.student.utwente.nl [130.89.220.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3765437B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:23:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r.j.steehouder@student.utwente.nl) Received: from kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl (kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl [130.89.203.69]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.9.3/MQT) with ESMTP id KAA27756; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:23:15 +0200 (METDST) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:24:13 +0200 (West-Europa (zomertijd)) From: Rogier Steehouder Reply-To: To: Matthew Emmerton Cc: Subject: Re: [FBSD-Q] strange ifconfig up behaviour In-Reply-To: <02d401c0c929$61915350$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Message-ID: X-Warning: UNAuthenticated Sender MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mail from Matthew Emmerton, sent 19-04-2001: > How in the heck did this card magically get assigned an IPv6 address? > Later, when I do an 'ifconfig rl0 down', the flags are changed, but the > inet6 address stays, and I'm unable to remove the address from the > interface. IPv6 autoconfiguration. Every nic gets a link-local address starting with fe80::. Then it will add a semi-random unique number to that (usually the mac address?). This address can then be used to aquire a global address from the nearest router. Do a web search on IPv6 autoconfiguration. (or don't use IPv6) (or don't worry about it) with kind regards, Rogier Steehouder -- ___ _ -O_\ Rogier Steehouder // | / mailto:r.j.steehouder@student.utwente.nl //\ / \ http://home.student.utwente.nl/r.j.steehouder/ // \ --------------------------------------------------------- "Bet you can't put it through the eye." "Left or right?" - Femeref Archers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1:33:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE1337B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:33:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14qWMF-0004Zr-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:33:39 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3K8XdS53449 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:33:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:33:38 +0100 From: Rasputin To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to connect to the internet through a proxy Message-ID: <20010420093338.A53292@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <20010419220303.98078.qmail@web14106.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010419220303.98078.qmail@web14106.mail.yahoo.com>; from k_greenwood1@yahoo.com on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:03:03PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * K. Greenwood [010419 23:04]: > Sorry to nudge in, but I was just curious if you (or > anybody) have been > able to successfully retrieve mail from a POP server > through a Squid proxy server. Doubtful. Squid's a web/ftp/ssl proxy. Why is port 110 outbound blocked? Any stateful firewall should make this reasonably secure. -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1:35:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [194.205.134.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E02A37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waynep@zaphod.realtime.co.uk) Received: from zaphod.realtime.co.uk ([194.205.134.208]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14qWOM-0000Nd-01; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:35:50 +0100 Received: from waynep by zaphod.realtime.co.uk with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14qWOA-0002Am-00; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:35:38 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: Patrick Calkins Cc: Freebsd-Questions (E-mail) Subject: Re: OT: fBSD with Apache, Zeus, or Kernel HTTPD??? References: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A0@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Reply-To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Date: 20 Apr 2001 09:35:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A0@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Patrick Calkins writes: > Hello all, > This may be slightly OT, but what would be the > best/strongest/fastest/securest web server solution? > Running FreeBSD is a no brainer- it hands down seems to beat about every OS > out there for this, but what for the web server? > Apache? or Zeus (recent tests suggest it beats out Apache marginally Zeus might beat apache, but it doesn't have Apache's features. No wide availability of modules, etc.... I would say go apache, and tweak things... -- - Wayne Pascoe E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1:44:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E92437B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:44:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14qWWU-0004fJ-00; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:44:14 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3K8iE053588; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:44:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:44:14 +0100 From: Rasputin To: Greg Lewis Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dialup only works from Windows Message-ID: <20010420094413.B53292@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <200104192236.IAA82479@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200104192236.IAA82479@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au>; from glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 08:06:57AM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Greg Lewis [010419 23:38]: > Simply put, authentication only seems to work when using Windows dialup > networking. My fiancee's Win 95 and Win2k machines both happily connect. > However, when I try to connect using ppp I get an "Invalid user name/password > pair" message. I'm trying this using ppp interactively. I've verified the > correct username and password are being used, so thats not the > problem. Interestingly, I get the same problem trying to connect > interactively using Windows 95 Hyperterminal to dial in. > Has anyone had a similar problem? I'm sure I'm just missing a ppp > config option, but I can't work out what it is :(. Your ISP either uses PAP or CHAP. Not cleartext authentication. Try one then the other, job done. -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1:49:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3C037B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:49:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14qWbf-0000mz-00; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:49:35 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3K8nYP53709; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:49:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:49:34 +0100 From: Rasputin To: Gianmarco Giovannelli Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I FreeBSD missing timezone var ? Message-ID: <20010420094934.C53292@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010420082312.03eeabe8@194.184.65.4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010420082312.03eeabe8@194.184.65.4>; from gmarco@giovannelli.it on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 08:27:53AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Gianmarco Giovannelli [010420 07:34]: > > A friend is converting a tool from Linux to FreeBSD. Ihe is saying we miss > a var. I am not a C expert so I can't answer him. > > "The only difference is this -- in linux, there's a builtin variable called > _timezone. I couldn't find that in FreeBSD, so I created a simple function > that would determine the timezone. " > > Do we have something similar to the _timezone var ? Yes. [rasputin@dogma rasputin]$ man -k timezone adjkerntz(8) - adjust local time CMOS clock to reflect time zone changes and keep current ti mezone offset for the kernel timezone(3) - return the timezone abbreviation tzfile(5) - timezone information tzsetup(8) - set local timezone zdump(8) - timezone dumper zic(8) - timezone compiler -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 2: 4:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A2337B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:04:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:03:21 +0100 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14qWoT-00053K-00; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:02:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:02:49 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant To: Andrew Hesford Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: GCC and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20010420005012.A95149@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > Two questions, the second one a little off-topic, but bear with me: > > 1) If GCC didn't exist, what compiler would FreeBSD contain? 'Another free C compiler' > 2) Since all my programming has been on UNIX systems with GCC, I have no > idea how GCC compares to other compilers. Is it a good one, a mediocre > one, or just the only thing we've got? Fair to middling. Doesn't tend to compare favourably with commercial products. A lot of open-source stuff (well, a significant chuck) uses GCC 'extensions' which will break under ANSI/ISO-conformant compilers. It's close to ubiquitous, and tends to get retargetted for pretty much any platform. However, the quality of code generation depends a great deal on how radical that target platform is. -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287163 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk "My army boots contain everything not in them." - Russell's pair o' Docs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 2:18:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6231037B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:18:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 82813 invoked by uid 100); 20 Apr 2001 09:18:25 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15071.65249.943110.371512@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:18:25 -0500 To: "Charles Burns" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <52898647@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charles Burns types: > Xeon is simply a P2 or P3 that has lots of on-chip cache memory and is > extremely overpriced. When I bought mine, Xeon's were also the only P2s - P3s weren't available yet - that had a cache that ran at the CPU clock speed. The benchmarks indicated that for many typical Unix applications, the cache speed was nearly as important as the base CPU speed. My tests afterwards weren't quite so clearcut, but it ran rings around the 350MHz ultrasparc that I had been considering. If I remember correctly, the clock speeds were also the same - the fastest P2 and the fastest Xeon were both 450MHz. And yes, on-chip cache is dear. The price on P2 Xeon's has fallen to something reasonable, so I've upgraded those as far as I can - 450MHz with 2M of on-chip cache. With the recent commentary about the P3 core sucking, I'm wondering if there's any point in going to P3 Xeons, as the fastest the motherboard will go is 600MHz. Thanx, http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 2:26:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51CB237B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:26:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 83027 invoked by uid 100); 20 Apr 2001 09:26:27 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15072.195.712779.313152@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:26:27 -0500 To: Patrick Calkins Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: fBSD with Apache, Zeus, or Kernel HTTPD??? In-Reply-To: <46159900@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Patrick Calkins types: > Hello all, > This may be slightly OT, but what would be the > best/strongest/fastest/securest web server solution? The answer depends on the order you rank those four criteria, and your application. Apache is the best(*) general purpose web server. WN is the most secure. Medusa is the fastest for generating dynamic content from internal state. AOLServer is the fastest for generating dynamic content from a database. thttpd has the best throughput control, which makes it the strongest for one definition of strongest. In other words, the best solution depends on the problem you're trying to solve. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 2:27:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate3.cinetic.de (mailgate3.cinetic.de [212.227.116.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8418537B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:27:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rene_conrads@web.de) Received: from cinetic.de (popeye.cinetic.de [194.122.194.100]) by mailgate3.cinetic.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with SMTP id f3K9ROZ08362 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:27:24 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:27:24 +0200 Message-Id: <200104200927.f3K9ROZ08362@mailgate3.cinetic.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ From: "Rene Conrads" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Important Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hallo FreeBSD.org-Team, I've startet to leech FreeBSD with my 56K for a few days now. And I thought I have disunderstood the introduction. Because my download size is now more than 1.5 GIGs. Now I have read you FAQs and I know, that only 4.2 Release is required to run FreeBSD, is this correct =3F Well, I have decided to leech your complete FTP server. So my Question is : How can I copy the whole downloaded content on CD =3F So that I could install from these CD's. And on installation I don't have to copy these files back to disk. On which CD must be which directory, like this. I hope you have understand my question. Thank you (and sorry for my bad english) Rene =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F Die Fachpresse ist sich einig: WEB.DE 20mal Testsieger! Kostenlos E-Mail,=20 Fax, SMS, Verschl=FCsselung, POP3, WAP....testen Sie uns! http://freemail.we= b.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 2:34:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50E7037B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:34:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 83202 invoked by uid 100); 20 Apr 2001 09:34:38 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15072.686.890676.113519@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:34:38 -0500 To: Chris Aitken Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail.cf info In-Reply-To: <132728258@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris Aitken types: > Hi Everyone, > > I have a bit of a question I havent been able to stumble on the right > syntax for the sendmail.cf to make it work..... > > What im tring to do is have sendmail.cf pick up on any emails coming in for > a specific address and append a small bit of text at the beginning of the > Subject. > > For example.... if the email comes in to 'jack@reacher.com' with > Subject: Hi, How Are You? > > I want to be able to deliver it to the user but with the following > Subject: [Jack] Hi, How Are You? > > > I have tried different configs and what not and I just cant seem to get it > to do what I want it to do. > > Any suggestions ? Yes - if sendmail will do that for you, stop using it. Immediately. MTAs have *no* business mucking around with subject lines! That said, you can probably get procmail to do this for you. If the user names are aliases that all point to the same real user, then you can use procmail from the .forward file. If that's not the case, procmail can be invoked from the sendmail.cf file. You'll have to read the procmail docs to find out how to do that, and how to get procmail to do what you want. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 2:39: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [194.205.134.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BEE37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:39:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waynep@zaphod.realtime.co.uk) Received: from zaphod.realtime.co.uk ([194.205.134.208]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14qXNX-0000T9-01; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:39:03 +0100 Received: from waynep by zaphod.realtime.co.uk with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14qXNL-0002FA-00; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:38:51 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: "Rene Conrads" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Important Question References: <200104200927.f3K9ROZ08362@mailgate3.cinetic.de> Reply-To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Date: 20 Apr 2001 10:38:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200104200927.f3K9ROZ08362@mailgate3.cinetic.de> Message-ID: Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Rene Conrads" writes: > Hallo FreeBSD.org-Team, > > I've startet to leech FreeBSD with my 56K for a few days now. > And I thought I have disunderstood the introduction. > Because my download size is now more than 1.5 GIGs. > Now I have read you FAQs and I know, that only 4.2 Release is > required to run FreeBSD, is this correct ? > > Well, I have decided to leech your complete FTP server. > So my Question is : > > How can I copy the whole downloaded content on CD ? > So that I could install from these CD's. > And on installation I don't have to copy these files back to disk. > On which CD must be which directory, like this. If you just want to start working with FreeBSD, I would suggest that you download just the 4.2-RELEASE (or if there is one, 4.2-STABLE) ISO image. This is an image that is ready to be burned to a CD and you can boot from it, and install from there. Hope that helps. -- - Wayne Pascoe E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 2:43:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web4307.mail.yahoo.com (web4307.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25C4237B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zhang210@yahoo.com.cn) Message-ID: <20010420094335.18802.qmail@web4307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.11.226.119] by web4307.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:43:35 CST Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:43:35 +0800 (CST) From: =?gb2312?q?lei=20zhang?= Subject: help: aio_* + kevent to implement no-blocking io To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: terry@lambert.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I want to implement a no-blocking IO and using aio*+kevent to read/write for disk. I have try more, but I can't do it. my freebsd is 4.1, and the code is : #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #define DISKSIZE 8000 /* the blocksize to test with in Kbytes */ #define BLOCKSIZE 15 /* the number of blocks to read for testing * NOTE: for testing use_lio NRBLOCKS should be 16 or less */ #define NRBLOCKS 20 /* no editing below here */ #define MAXBLOCKS ((DISKSIZE << 10) / BLOCKSIZE) //#define BUFSIZE (BLOCKSIZE << 10) #define BUFSIZE (BLOCKSIZE *1024 ) #define KQ_EVENT_MAX 1024 struct kevent kq_event[KQ_EVENT_MAX]; /* kqueue event holder */ /* some macros for timing (user/system/elapsed) */ struct rusage ru_start, ru_end; struct timeval utime, stime, ttime, start, end, etime; struct aiocb iocb[NRBLOCKS]; int kq_handle; struct timespec timeout; #define START \ do { \ gettimeofday(&start, NULL); \ getrusage(RUSAGE_SELF, &ru_start); \ } while (0) #define STOP(type) \ do { \ getrusage(RUSAGE_SELF, &ru_end); \ gettimeofday(&end, NULL); \ timersub(&ru_end.ru_utime, &ru_start.ru_utime, &utime); \ timersub(&ru_end.ru_stime, &ru_start.ru_stime, &stime); \ timeradd(&utime, &stime, &ttime); \ timersub(&end, &start, &etime); \ printf("%-10s: %2ld.%06ld %2ld.%06ld %2ld.%06ld %2ld.%06ld %6.2f kbps\n", \ type, \ utime.tv_sec, utime.tv_usec, \ stime.tv_sec, stime.tv_usec, \ ttime.tv_sec, ttime.tv_usec, \ etime.tv_sec, etime.tv_usec, \ (float) NRBLOCKS*15 / (etime.tv_sec + etime.tv_usec / 1E6)); \ } while (0) /* array to store which blocks to read */ int blocks[NRBLOCKS]; void use_read(int); void use_pread(int); void use_aio(int); void use_lio(int); void kq_fd_set(int fd, short filter, u_short flags); int kq_proc(struct timespec *tout); int main (int argc, char *argv[]) { int fd, i,n ; kq_handle = kqueue(); /* open the raw disk device */ if ((fd = open(argv[1], O_RDONLY)) == -1) { err(1, "%s", argv[1]); } /* create array of blocks to read */ srandom(1); for (i = 0; i < NRBLOCKS; i++) { blocks[i] = random() % MAXBLOCKS; } printf("\n Testing: %s\n", argv[1]); printf("Types : User Time Sys Time U+S time Elapsed Blocks(KB/s)\n"); /* use aio */ START; timeout.tv_sec = 0; timeout.tv_nsec = 2500; printf("start"); use_aio(fd); for(;;) { n = kq_proc(NULL); printf("n= %d \n",n); if ( n<1) break; } STOP("aio"); close(fd); return 0; } void use_aio (int fd) { struct aiocb iocb[NRBLOCKS]; int i, res, n; printf("do aio"); for (i = 0; i < NRBLOCKS; i++) { bzero(&iocb[i], sizeof(struct aiocb)); /* !!! */ kq_event[i].ident = kq_handle; //kq_event[i].udata = &iocb[i] ; kq_event[i].filter = EVFILT_AIO; /* EVFILT_READ or EVFILT_WRITE */ //kq_event[i].flags = EV_ADD | EV_ENABLE; /* EV_ADD or EV_DELETE */ iocb[i].aio_fildes = fd; iocb[i].aio_offset = (off_t) blocks[i] * BUFSIZE; iocb[i].aio_buf = malloc(BUFSIZE); iocb[i].aio_nbytes = BUFSIZE; iocb[i].aio_lio_opcode = &kq_event[i]; if ((res = aio_read(&iocb[i])) == -1) printf("error: aio_read"); printf(" kq = %d &iocb= %x \n", kq_event[i].ident, &iocb[i]); n = kq_proc(&timeout); printf("n= %d \n",n); if (n < 0) { if (errno == EINTR || errno == EINPROGRESS) continue; /* interrupted by timer? */ } } } /*------------------------------------------------------------------------- * kq_fd_set - add or delete a kquque event *------------------------------------------------------------------------- */ void kq_fd_set(int fd, short filter, u_short flags) { struct kevent *ke,kqe; ke = &kqe; ke->ident = fd; ke->filter = filter; /* EVFILT_READ or EVFILT_WRITE */ ke->flags = flags; /* EV_ADD or EV_DELETE */ ke->fflags = 0; ke->data = 0; /* * add, modify, or delete kqueue events */ if (kevent(kq_handle, ke, 1, NULL, 0, NULL) < 0) { printf("kq_fd_set: kevent() call error "); return; } } /*------------------------------------------------------------------------- * kq_proc - process ready events (or timeout) * Return: the number of ready events *------------------------------------------------------------------------- */ int kq_proc(struct timespec *tout) { int i, fd, nready; struct kevent *ke; u_short flags; short filter; struct aiocb *iocb; nready = kevent(kq_handle, NULL, 0, kq_event, KQ_EVENT_MAX, tout); if (nready < 0) { return -1; /* error */ } if (nready == 0) { /* timeout */ return (0); } for (i = 0; i < nready; i++) { ke = &kq_event[i]; fd = ke->ident; flags = ke->flags; filter = ke->filter; printf(" ident = %x udata = %x ",kq_event[i].ident, ke->udata ); if (flags & EV_ERROR) { continue; } //iocb = ke->udata; //if (aio_return(fd) < 0) // err(1, "aio_return"); kq_fd_set(fd, EVFILT_AIO, EV_DELETE); } return(nready); } Use this program, I only can get last 4 read result. I know it might have some problem in aio + kevent. but I don't know the correct method Please help me. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? µÇ¼Ãâ·ÑÑÅ»¢µçÓÊ! http://mail.yahoo.com.cn ´´½¨ÑÅ»¢¾ãÀÖ²¿£¬ÕæÎÒ¸öÐÔ¾¡Ê©Õ¹£¡http://cn.clubs.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 2:43:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cgmd76206.chello.nl (d9168.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.9.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8893937B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:43:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edwin@cgmd76206.chello.nl) Received: by cgmd76206.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 99D5E236; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:43:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:43:53 +0200 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Nicolas Grieco Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pty's Message-ID: <20010420114353.C504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> References: <20010420095117.A9466@t-online.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010420095117.A9466@t-online.fr>; from ng@t-online.fr on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 09:51:17AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 09:51:17AM +0200, Nicolas Grieco wrote: > I'm really sorry about the newbie style of my question but how can i > change the max pty on a FreeBSD ? In your kernel-config, increase value of the pty pseudo-device. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#ADD-PTY Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://FatalDimensions.nl.eu.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 2:46:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov (gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.4.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1124B37B422; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:46:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsowders@usgs.gov) To: "Rene Conrads" Cc: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Important Question X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.3 March 21, 2000 Message-ID: From: "Robert L Sowders" Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:46:13 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlm03/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at 04/20/2001 02:46:17 AM, Serialize complete at 04/20/2001 02:46:17 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don't bother leeching the ftp server. Just follow the install guides at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en=5FUS.ISO=5F8859-1/books/handbook/install.html http://www.de.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html or you could ask these folks for a german translation maybe. Web: http://www.de.FreeBSD.org/de/uebersetzung.html E-Mail: de-bsd-translators@de.FreeBSD.org "Rene Conrads" Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG 04/20/2001 02:27 AM =20 To: questions@FreeBSD.org cc:=20 Subject: Important Question Hallo FreeBSD.org-Team, I've startet to leech FreeBSD with my 56K for a few days now. And I thought I have disunderstood the introduction. Because my download size is now more than 1.5 GIGs. Now I have read you FAQs and I know, that only 4.2 Release is required to run FreeBSD, is this correct ? Well, I have decided to leech your complete FTP server. So my Question is : How can I copy the whole downloaded content on CD ? So that I could install from these CD's. And on installation I don't have to copy these files back to disk. On which CD must be which directory, like this. I hope you have understand my question. Thank you (and sorry for my bad english) Rene =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F Die Fachpresse ist sich einig: WEB.DE 20mal Testsieger! Kostenlos E-Mail,=20 Fax, SMS, Verschl=FCsselung, POP3, WAP....testen Sie uns! http://freemail.w= eb.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 2:47: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F67B37B43F for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 02:47:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 83528 invoked by uid 100); 20 Apr 2001 09:47:03 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15072.1431.696072.583197@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:47:03 -0500 To: Gianmarco Giovannelli Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I FreeBSD missing timezone var ? In-Reply-To: <114306623@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gianmarco Giovannelli types: > A friend is converting a tool from Linux to FreeBSD. Ihe is saying we miss > a var. I am not a C expert so I can't answer him. > > "Over the weekend I brought up FreeBSD on an old machine at home, and > successfully built a native FreeBSD version of Sphere. It still hasn't been > tested a bit (haven't had time), but I don't imagine it will be any > different than the linux version. In fact, there is only one place that the > code for the FreeBSD and Linux versions differ." > [...] > "The only difference is this -- in linux, there's a builtin variable called > _timezone. I couldn't find that in FreeBSD, so I created a simple function > that would determine the timezone. " > > Do we have something similar to the _timezone var ? It's not clear what he wants. It might be tzname, but using that's discouraged. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 3:10:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from earth.inco.com.lb (earth.inco.com.lb [193.188.135.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FD537B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:10:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djt2000@inco.com.lb) Received: from hamster ([194.126.4.22]) by earth.inco.com.lb (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3KAC4F02101 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:12:05 -0200 (GMT) Message-ID: <000701c0c98a$9f48ebc0$16047ec2@hamster> From: "Toni SOUEID" To: Subject: Selective ACK Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:09:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG is SACK supported by the TCP/IP stack of FreeBSD 4.2 ? if so is it supported by the generic kernel or needs a recompilation ? if a recompilation is needed what are the options to include in the configuration file ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 3:24:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F5337B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from house@lvcm.com) Received: from neoone (cm082.44.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.44.82]) by 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABP47815; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <042e01c0c983$cfa06cf0$1616160a@neoone> From: "JannaDanRich" To: Subject: IPFILTER or IPFW? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:22:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_042B_01C0C949.22F08EC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_042B_01C0C949.22F08EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had asked a question hoping that I would get a general, yes you are = correct, and a suggestion for resolution .. or just hey don't do that! =20 as I reach out once more from the bottom of the food chain in hopes that = someone could offer a touch of advice, or at least to be familiar with = the problem to say exactly, or if it is worded poorly, one could advise = me on how better to script my question .. i.e. filling in blanks etc. I have 4.3rc running IPFILTER, my firewall ruleset is very simple, = default block with three rules .... pass out all proto tcp/udp/icmp from any to any keep state then two return-rst 's some logging etc ..=20 My problem comes with FTP, I even changed my rules to read pass in quick all pass out quick all in an attempt to see what is happening with FTP and why I cannot = connect, it works fine in passive mode, and works fine with gateway out = of loop, but does not work through the firewall otherwise I did read somewhere that ipnat could not read from drive when kern = security level was set to 2 .. which is of course the level at which one = might expect me to set my firewall box? (this, from the best that I = could understand was "wouldn't allow me to change rules dynamically .. = therefore I rebooted machine with pass out all / pass in all") IPNAT = works fine, and gives me no worries, except for FTP .. I found no other = info about this I also found information that IPFILTER couldn't handle the frag packets = associated with FTP any suggestions/recommendations/links? I can offer up my tcpdump file? This is ever increasingly important because ftp is a service I would = like to provide, now that I am finished turning screws on old dual P Pro Thanks=20 Rich ------=_NextPart_000_042B_01C0C949.22F08EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had asked a question hoping that I = would get a=20 general, yes you are correct, and a suggestion for resolution .. or just = hey=20 don't do that! 
 
as I reach out once more from the = bottom of the=20 food chain in hopes that someone could offer a touch of advice, or at = least to=20 be familiar with the problem to say exactly, or if it is worded poorly, = one=20 could advise me on how better to script my question .. i.e. filling in = blanks=20 etc.
 
I have 4.3rc running IPFILTER, my = firewall ruleset=20 is very simple, default block with three rules ....
pass out all proto tcp/udp/icmp from = any to any=20 keep state
 
then two return-rst 's
 
some logging etc ..
 
My problem comes with FTP, I even = changed my rules=20 to read
pass in quick all
pass out quick all
 
in an attempt to see what is happening = with FTP and=20 why I cannot connect, it works fine in passive mode, and works fine with = gateway=20 out of loop, but does not work through the firewall = otherwise
 
I did read somewhere that ipnat could = not read from=20 drive when kern security level was set to 2 .. which is of course the = level at=20 which one might expect me to set my firewall box? (this, from the best = that I=20 could understand was "wouldn't allow me to change rules dynamically .. = therefore=20 I rebooted machine with pass out all / pass in all")   IPNAT = works=20 fine, and gives me no worries, except for FTP .. I found no other info = about=20 this
 
I also found information that IPFILTER = couldn't=20 handle the frag packets associated with FTP <this relates = specifically to=20 stateful firewalling, but since I was passing all and this is an older = version,=20 I disregarded this info>
 
any suggestions/recommendations/links?  I can offer up my = tcpdump=20 file?
 
This is ever increasingly important because ftp is a service I = would like=20 to provide, now that I am finished turning screws on old dual P = Pro
 
Thanks
Rich
------=_NextPart_000_042B_01C0C949.22F08EC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 3:40: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [217.27.162.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A86537B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F2C1C7EC for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:39:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26A91C5C7 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:39:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:39:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Dan Larsson To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: all network ports in use? Message-ID: <20010420123445.C41494-100000@hq1.tyfon.net> Organization: Tyfon Svenska AB X-NCC-NIC: DL1999-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: se.tyfon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by hq1.tyfon.net Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why am I getting these messages and how do I solve it? (Doing a 'netstat -a' shows no ports in use) % telnet localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. telnetd: All network ports in use. Connection closed by foreign host. (This is on a FreeBSD-4.2 RELEASE box) Regards +------ Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 GPG and PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 4: 3:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9DE37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:03:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@uunet.co.za) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 14qYhM-0005eQ-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:03:36 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id NAA07819 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:03:35 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 7602; Fri Apr 20 13:02:26 2001 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qYgE-000LKv-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:02:26 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Compaq Proliant ML350 w/ Smart Array 431 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:02:26 +0200 Message-ID: <82020.987764546@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> From: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I'm busy making sure that some systems I've been quoted on are going to be well-supported by FreeBSD. The systems are Compaq Proliant ML350 with Smart Array 431 SCSI RAID controllers and Intel EtherExpress-based ethernet devices. So far, all my digging through the archives suggests that everything's going to be supported by 4.2-RELEASE (and obviously the upcoming 4.3-RELEASE). However, I can't figure out whether I'll be using the mlx(4) driver or the undocumented ida(4) driver. Any help would, as always, be much appreciated. Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 4: 4:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp010.mail.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B927637B43E for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:04:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fasi_74@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO client2) (202.87.102.168) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 11:04:25 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <015e01c0c9ee$9c52b7c0$a86657ca@client2> From: "faisal" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Is ftp.freebsd.org down ? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:06:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is FreeBSD,s ftp site down i am not able to access it as i have downloaded quite much of its iso RC4 ... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 4: 8:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E109B37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:08:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@uunet.co.za) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 14qYli-0005j8-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:08:06 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id NAA08734 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:08:05 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 8512; Fri Apr 20 13:06:59 2001 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qYkd-000LMy-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:06:59 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compaq Proliant ML350 w/ Smart Array 431 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:02:26 +0200." <82020.987764546@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:06:59 +0200 Message-ID: <82147.987764819@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> From: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:02:26 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > I'm busy making sure that some systems I've been quoted on are going to > be well-supported by FreeBSD. The systems are Compaq Proliant ML350 > with Smart Array 431 SCSI RAID controllers and Intel EtherExpress-based > ethernet devices. [...] > However, I can't figure out whether I'll be using the mlx(4) driver or > the undocumented ida(4) driver. Silly me. Why didn't I think of looking in ida_pci.c _before_ I sent my question. Sorry, folks. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 4:14:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4s.retemail.es (smtp4.iddeo.es [62.81.186.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6244037B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:14:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ventas@altis2000.com) Received: from altis2000.com ([62.174.73.147]) by smtp4s.retemail.es (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010420111405.PEYZ2609.smtp4s.retemail.es@altis2000.com> for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:14:05 +0200 Message-ID: <3AE01B1F.1639454D@altis2000.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:18:56 +0200 From: "Dpto. Ventas Altis2000, S.A." Organization: Altis 2000, S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: es,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Necesito saber quien es el distribuidro del sofware Free BSD Unix. Gracias. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 4:16: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.futurniture.se (starlet.futurniture.se [195.242.45.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FDB137B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:16:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fredrik.carlen@futurniture.se) Received: (qmail 25393 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2001 11:15:55 -0000 Received: from firewall.hitechbuilding.se (HELO bozo) (195.242.45.9) by mail.futurniture.se with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 11:15:55 -0000 Message-ID: <005701c0c98b$48acdfa0$af07a8c0@bozo> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Carl=E9n?= To: Subject: how do I know which ports and packages version to choose? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:16:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I am running 4.2-STABLE, and I want to download the packages = appropriate for this distribution. Which version should I use? This = might be a *terribly* stupid question, and for that I do apologize...I = haven't found any entry in the online handbook as to which version to = use...I bought the CD's, but they've been viciously destroyed by a cute = little kid, so that's why I want to download them... I can condense my question into this: How do I match the correct = distribution with the correct ports/packages distribution? /Fredrik Carl=E9n, Stockholm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 4:26:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D900B37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:26:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from house@lvcm.com) Received: from neoone (cm082.44.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.44.82]) by 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABP48864; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <045901c0c98c$762f7540$1616160a@neoone> From: "JannaDanRich" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fredrik_Carl=E9n?= , References: <005701c0c98b$48acdfa0$af07a8c0@bozo> Subject: Re: how do I know which ports and packages version to choose? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:24:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG from command line .. just run "/stand/sysinstall" .. be sure to change installation media type and choose an ftp server, and there is! you can add/remove modify at will .. pretty darned cool, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fredrik Carlén" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:16 AM Subject: how do I know which ports and packages version to choose? Hi! I am running 4.2-STABLE, and I want to download the packages appropriate for this distribution. Which version should I use? This might be a *terribly* stupid question, and for that I do apologize...I haven't found any entry in the online handbook as to which version to use...I bought the CD's, but they've been viciously destroyed by a cute little kid, so that's why I want to download them... I can condense my question into this: How do I match the correct distribution with the correct ports/packages distribution? /Fredrik Carlén, Stockholm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 4:39:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web12903.mail.yahoo.com (web12903.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF72537B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:39:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldentuxedo@rocketmail.com) Message-ID: <20010420113920.31958.qmail@web12903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.146.238.4] by web12903.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:39:20 PDT Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:39:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Teddy Lionard Subject: SB Live! Problem... To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well, i am kind of a newbie around the freebsd, so, i've decided to send this mail, with the boot message below... well, currently i am trying to recompile the kernel, so it can use the sb live! that is mounted on the system. and i have followed every procedure on the freebsd's handbook, and also asking friends that also have live and freebsd installed on the system... but it seems that a very uncommon error has occured after i recompile the kernel and reboot, so i tried to do some modification on the kernel emu10k1.c, but still unable to get rid the error... ( i only add the line "device pcm" to the GENERIC kernel) so plzzzzz, helppppppp me... thx in advance... best regard... teddy ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Apr 19 22:16:22 JAVT 2001 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (602.71-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x683 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 134201344 (131056K bytes) config> di sn0 config> di lnc0 config> di ie0 config> di fe0 config> di ed0 config> di cs0 config> q avail memory = 126087168 (123132K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc047d000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc047d09c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib2 pci1: <3Dfx Voodoo 3 graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xb800-0xb80f at device 4.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 10 at device 4.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 10 at device 4.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered // well, it is still alright here pcm0: at device 9.0 on pci0 // this is my own modification to emu10k1.c // when they are trying to detect something, // which i don't know anything about... pcm0: try = 0 pcm0: reg id = 10 pcm0: reg type = 3 pcm0: trying reg type = 4 pcm0: Failed here pcm0: try = 1 pcm0: reg id = 14 pcm0: reg type = 3 pcm0: trying reg type = 4 pcm0: Failed here pcm0: try = 2 pcm0: reg id = 18 pcm0: reg type = 3 pcm0: trying reg type = 4 pcm0: Failed here pcm0: try = 3 pcm0: reg id = 1d pcm0: reg type = 3 pcm0: trying reg type = 4 pcm0: Failed here pcm0: try = 4 pcm0: reg id = 20 pcm0: reg type = 3 pcm0: trying reg type = 4 pcm0: Failed here pcm0: try = 5 pcm0: reg id = 24 pcm0: reg type = 3 pcm0: trying reg type = 4 pcm0: Failed here // end of modification pcm0: unable to map register space device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6 // the above two line is the problem pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ad0: 16555MB [33637/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66 acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 4:46:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.XtremeDev.com (xtremedev.com [216.241.38.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F305A37B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:46:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@XtremeDev.com) Received: by mail.XtremeDev.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id CAD6313632; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:46:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.XtremeDev.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0DFD9DB for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:46:04 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:46:04 -0600 (MDT) From: FreeBSD To: Subject: Apache, Vhost, and Jail Message-ID: <20010420053742.C88982-100000@Amber.XtremeDev.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey all. I have a Jail setup that I would like apache (running in the host environment) to serve pages for. I have names setup as: jail.mydomain.org host.mydomain.org Apache right now serves pages for host.mydomain.org fine, but when I went to try and setup namebased vhost, all the documentations I've read refers to instances such as: www.foo.bar.com www.bar.com Can apache's namebased vhost do it by host only? If it can, then I can set the documentroot to jail/usr/local/www/. But I haven't been successful, so far I have this in my httpd.conf: NameVirtualHost * # Host DocumentRoot /usr/local/www ServerName host.mydomain.org # Jail DocumentRoot /jail/usr/local/www ServerName jail.mydomain.org Of course, I have the public IP in place of 123.123.123.123, and resolvable domains for both jail and host on the internet. But when I try going to http://host.mydomain.org, I get the jail's homepage?! Anywhere I go using host.mydomain.org, it ends up in the jail document path. Have I missed something? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 5:26:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sudz.ns3g.com (cr618871-b.bloor1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.110.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1DE37B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:26:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sudz@ns3g.com) Received: from cooler (cr618871-a.bloor1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.110.110]) by sudz.ns3g.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3KCSjc25227 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:28:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sudz@ns3g.com) Reply-To: From: "Colin Legendre" To: Subject: Release Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:29:38 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0C974.09A71CB0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0C974.09A71CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is the snapshot of 4.3 release going to be done today as planned? Colin Legendre CCNA, MCP sudz@ns3g.com ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0C974.09A71CB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is the = snapshot of=20 4.3 release going to be done today as planned?
 
 
Colin Legendre  CCNA, = MCP
sudz@ns3g.com
 
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0C974.09A71CB0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 5:37:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from transporter.cybertours.com (transporter.cybertours.com [208.130.42.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713C337B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:37:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from misterb@cybertours.com) Received: from kronos (skywalker.cybertours.com [208.130.43.221]) by transporter.cybertours.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA20658; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002c01c0c996$710b0980$3ab4a8c0@kronos> From: "Brent" To: "Caleb Walker" , References: <005f01c0c910$28520ee0$3ab4a8c0@kronos> <00d601c0c952$e9769d60$2701a8c0@cwalk.org> Subject: Re: gre-tunneling help Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:35:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK..heres the whole deal... I work for an ISP ...there are 2 offices ..both in different states....I have a 70 node internel microsoft network that has a freebsd 4.1 box doing NAT ..the other office has a PIC router at thier end...we want to "GRE_TUNNEL" between the 2 locations over the internet. Ive compiled the BSD box w/ NETGRAPH, IPTUNNEL , NETGRAPH_PPTPGRE .. will this be going over "TUNx" ?? in the howto i have ..it says to make sure the kernel has "TUN" support....i go to /dev and tun0, tun1, tun2 ...are alll there...althpought when i do "ifconfig -a " TUN isnt there... im assuming i need tun ?? anyway ...if anyone can point me in the correct direction...to a good HOWTO or something.. TIA ..all help is way appreciated :-) Brent ----- Original Message ----- From: Caleb Walker To: Brent ; Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: Re: gre-tunneling help What are you trying to do? Are you trying to allowVPN through your network? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: gre-tunneling help > Im using a 4.1 FreeBSD box w/ NAT ..i need to gre-tunneling to work .the > howto im reading says there has to be at least 1 "tun" interface in the > down state....when i do a "ifconfig -a " tun isnt in there ...how do i > get the tun interface to be in "ifconfig" ? > ..when i look in > /dev > > tun0 tun1 tun2 all are in there... > > so i dont think i have to do ./MAKEDEV.. > how do i get it to show w/ ifconfig ?? did i miss something ?? > TIA ........any help is really appreciated > Brent > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 5:44:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from copper.he.net (copper.he.net [216.218.164.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DDF37B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:44:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keving@whackstar.com) Received: from ppp-63-205-176-16.dialup.snrf01.pacbell.net (ppp-63-205-176-16.dialup.snrf01.pacbell.net [63.205.176.16]) by copper.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with ESMTP id FAA18493 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:44:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:35:04 -0700 From: Kevin G X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.42f) Personal Reply-To: Kevin G Organization: WhackStar Productions X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <41231386.20010420053504@whackstar.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mailing Lists for Uninstalling and Apache-frontpage Advice Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello freebsd-questions, Hi Iam trying to determine which lists to subscribe to for help on the following: Deinstalling packages that have been installed (specifically Apache web server) and kludged, and installing apache-frontpage web server. I am using Freebsd 3.2 if that makes a difference. -- Best regards, Kevin mailto:keving@whackstar.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 5:54: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sonic.kks.net (sonic.kks.net [213.161.0.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180F137B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:54:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matjazp@doyen.si) Received: from ninja (7-196.ro.cable.kks.net [213.161.7.196]) by sonic.kks.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 19BA517F for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:53:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001a01c0c998$16488fc0$c407a1d5@ninja> From: "matjaz" To: Subject: dialup and mai Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:47:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0C9A8.D99BF7E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0C9A8.D99BF7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a isdn-gateway machine.How could i create a mail server on this = machine. I got a domain,which resides on ISP's servers. I believe it could be posible to run a mail service on a gateway machine = Can somebody help me Matjaz p.s. I saw this working,but lost contact with the guy that did it. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0C9A8.D99BF7E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a isdn-gateway machine.How could = i create a=20 mail server on this machine.
I got a domain,which resides on = ISP's=20 servers.
I believe it could be posible to = run a mail=20 service on a gateway machine
 
Can somebody help me
 
Matjaz
 
p.s. I saw this working,but lost = contact with=20 the guy that did it.
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0C9A8.D99BF7E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 6:17:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26D337B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:17:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14qalP-000D2W-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:15:55 +0300 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:15:54 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-Q Subject: ADDUSER - non-intercative Message-ID: <20010420161554.B30960@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NDin8bjvE/0mNLFQ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 4:02PM up 3 days, 22:25, 4 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.09, 0.08 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --NDin8bjvE/0mNLFQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, This is surely a very dumb one but never mind...I am sure dumb in this. I am looking for command line options to pw which will accept also a password. I have searched the archives but still don't find it. Someone must have done this before. I'll greatly appreciate help on this even from those of us who have 2 lives (those who run bothe BSD and Linux) Thanks in advance. -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. --NDin8bjvE/0mNLFQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64DaKn7LIsuxjem8RAvl9AJ96zaSyeQh9GQRr39Kwh5YEif+4fgCeJOIA UQ1JaknMZ0nhkvzNVpL2L3M= =zjJP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NDin8bjvE/0mNLFQ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 6:41:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECF537B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:41:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from phantom (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3KDg3K85412; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:42:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Message-ID: <01a501c0c99f$f9358070$0d01a8c0@phantom> Reply-To: "Gerald T. Freymann" From: "Gerald T. Freymann" To: "Kevin G" , References: <41231386.20010420053504@whackstar.com> Subject: Re: Mailing Lists for Uninstalling and Apache-frontpage Advice Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:44:08 -0400 Organization: eagle.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Deinstalling packages that have been installed (specifically Apache web > server) and kludged, and installing apache-frontpage web server. Everything you want to know about ports and then some: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html Good luck with apache-frontpage. I've never been able to get that to work, but I do have some resources on it: http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/frontpage/wpp/serk/ http://home.edo.uni-dortmund.de/~chripo/ -Gf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 6:45: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web14204.mail.yahoo.com (web14204.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3982337B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:45:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kawasaki6954@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010420134505.27362.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.32.23.252] by web14204.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:45:05 PDT Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:45:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Ralph Robinson Subject: ifconfig To: freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have added: ifconfig_ed1_alias0="192.168.254.251 netmask 255.255.255.0 " To the rc.conf file. The first address for this one is .250 From itself I can ping 192.168.254.250 but not 192.168.254.251. Computer #2 can ping either address. On boot I get an error: ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists error. Any hints out there? Ralph __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 6:49:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from algonet.se (garibaldi.tninet.se [195.100.94.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D139337B43E for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:49:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gus@algonet.se) Received: from laptop (sdu11-236.ppp.algonet.se [195.163.236.11]) by garibaldi.tninet.se (BLUETAIL Mail Robustifier 2.2.2) with ESMTP id 371082.774577.987garibaldi-s2 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:49:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:49:27 +0200 From: Gustaf Tham To: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: PcCard Viking CompactFlash: No driver allocated...Help pls In-Reply-To: <20010324194911.FA21.GUS@algonet.se> References: <20010324194911.FA21.GUS@algonet.se> Message-Id: <20010420154400.4DAF.GUS@algonet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.00.03 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Replying to my own posting: Solved. Changed card entry in pccard.conf to: config 0x2 "ata" ? Gustaf > Running 4.2 on a Compaq Armada notebook. > > The pccard daemon reports the insertion of a Viking ATA/CF > flash card and finds a matching entry in /etc/pccard.conf, > but then says " No driver is allocated". > > I tried all free IRQs. > The entry in the .conf file is only "config 0x2 "ata". > I have an "ata" device in the kernel. > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 6:57: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDDA37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:57:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3KDsqp24874; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:54:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <002101c0c9a1$502b5a70$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Ralph Robinson" , References: <20010420134505.27362.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: ifconfig Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:53:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have added: > ifconfig_ed1_alias0="192.168.254.251 netmask > 255.255.255.0 " > To the rc.conf file. The first address for this one is > .250 > From itself I can ping 192.168.254.250 but not > 192.168.254.251. > Computer #2 can ping either address. > On boot I get an error: > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists error. > > Any hints out there? Use netmask 0xffffffff (255.255.255.255) for aliases which are on the same subnet. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 6:58:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from stargate.compuware.com (stargate.compuware.com [166.90.248.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 87A1C37B422; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:58:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Bill.Barkell@compuware.com) Received: from [199.186.16.12] by stargate.compuware.com via smtpd (for hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 13:58:04 UT Received: from bh1.compuware.com (compuware.com [172.22.1.239]) by cwus-dtw-mr02.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1667B74EF6; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bh1.compuware.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:58:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Barkell, Bill" To: 'Tony Landells' , Otter Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: remote SecureID authentication anyone? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:57:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Secure ID can be set up for VPN in the following manner: (there may be other ways as well) 1) VPN gateway is connected to internet 2) SecureID ACE server is set up on internal network 3) VPN gateway is told to pass authentication to the ACE server Client connects to the gateway, conversation takes place between the gateway and the ACE server, gateway grants access to client. This does work with several popular VPN gateway products. William Barkell Network Security Analyst Corporate Information Systems Compuware Corporation 31440 Northwestern Highway Farmington Hills, MI 48334 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Landells [mailto:ahl@austclear.com.au] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:33 AM To: Otter Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG; security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remote SecureID authentication anyone? otterr@telocity.com said: > I'm looking to setup a machine in our office so a few of us can get in > on a VPN for network access after hours from home. I've heard VPNs are > possible. After discussing this with office management, they say the > only way we can do this is to use security in addition to passwords. > When I asked if our SecureID cards/keychains would work, they agreed > on it. Now... has anyone got this setup or something similar? I looked > on the mailing list archives with no luck... searched some web > pages... I even remember ssh2 using it, but now I don't see any > reference to it in the openssh or ssh2 makefiles. Answers and/or > suggestions are greatly appreciated. To some extent this depends what you're intending to use for your VPN. The SecurID server can be configured to handle RADIUS authentication, so any VPN software that can do RADIUS can do SecurID. Tony -- Tony Landells Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 Level 4, Rialto North Tower 525 Collins Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 7:25:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E8037B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14qbpK-000EMX-00; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:24:02 +0300 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:24:02 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FreeBSD Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Apache, Vhost, and Jail Message-ID: <20010420172402.F30960@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FreeBSD , FBSD-Q References: <20010420053742.C88982-100000@Amber.XtremeDev.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XIiC+We3v3zHqZ6Z" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010420053742.C88982-100000@Amber.XtremeDev.com>; from "FreeBSD" on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:46:04AM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 5:23PM up 3 days, 23:47, 3 users, load averages: 0.16, 0.40, 0.39 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --XIiC+We3v3zHqZ6Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * FreeBSD [20010420 14:45]: writing on the subject = 'Apache, Vhost, and Jail' FreeBSD> Hey all. I have a Jail setup that I would like apache (running in = the host FreeBSD> environment) to serve pages for. I have names setup as: a bit out of topic but may I ask how you start your jail after a reboot of the host system. TIA FreeBSD>=20 FreeBSD> jail.mydomain.org FreeBSD> host.mydomain.org FreeBSD>=20 FreeBSD> Apache right now serves pages for host.mydomain.org fine, but when= I went FreeBSD> to try and setup namebased vhost, all the documentations I've read= refers FreeBSD> to instances such as: FreeBSD>=20 FreeBSD> www.foo.bar.com FreeBSD> www.bar.com FreeBSD>=20 FreeBSD> Can apache's namebased vhost do it by host only? If it can, then I= can set FreeBSD> the documentroot to jail/usr/local/www/. But I haven't been succes= sful, FreeBSD> so far I have this in my httpd.conf: FreeBSD>=20 FreeBSD> NameVirtualHost * FreeBSD>=20 FreeBSD> # Host FreeBSD> FreeBSD> DocumentRoot /usr/local/www FreeBSD> ServerName host.mydomain.org FreeBSD> FreeBSD>=20 FreeBSD> # Jail FreeBSD> FreeBSD> DocumentRoot /jail/usr/local/www FreeBSD> ServerName jail.mydomain.org FreeBSD> FreeBSD>=20 FreeBSD>=20 FreeBSD> Of course, I have the public IP in place of 123.123.123.123, and FreeBSD> resolvable domains for both jail and host on the internet. But whe= n I try FreeBSD> going to http://host.mydomain.org, I get the jail's homepage?! Any= where I FreeBSD> go using host.mydomain.org, it ends up in the jail document path. = Have I FreeBSD> missed something? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. FreeBSD>=20 FreeBSD>=20 FreeBSD> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. "You are old," said the youth, "as I mentioned before, And make errors few people could bear; You complain about everyone's English but yours -- Do you really think this is quite fair?" "I make lots of mistakes," Father William declared, "But my stature these days is so great That no critic can hurt me -- I've got them all scared, And to stop me it's now far too late." --XIiC+We3v3zHqZ6Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64EaCn7LIsuxjem8RAv2eAJ9a190nCVW0QtwXTc4eVKLdO3xPOQCfTV5/ ygqDS5Js8U7EeMX5qD2irFg= =nXyZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XIiC+We3v3zHqZ6Z-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 7:34: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ds1.brooks.com (mailin.brooks.com [63.71.19.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B853937B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:34:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jaeho.Lee@brooks.com) Received: from ims-naeast1.brooks.com ([10.10.254.19]) by ds1.brooks.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14qbts-0001Aq-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:28:44 -0400 Received: by ims-naeast1.brooks.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:33:11 -0400 Message-ID: <857F15D7E3D8D3118D290008C7CF058602C97692@mail-naeast1.brooks.com> From: "Lee, Jaeho" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: does upsd support BACK-UPS from APC Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:30:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the information. I found, from APC website, only that they charge $39 for the cable. (And the user manual says same thing.) Maybe I missed something. Anyway It did not make sense to pay $39 for the $90 UPS, when I can buy better model which comes with cable with $120. So I replaced it. Thanks, /Jaeho To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 7:41:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from email.capecod.mass.edu (email.capecod.mass.edu [134.241.172.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FE937B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:41:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DKisamor@capecod.mass.edu) Received: by email.capecod.mass.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:30:33 -0400 Message-ID: <89728F655659D211BF2B00104B314F8A013F2E21@email.capecod.mass.edu> From: "Kisamore, Dan" To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Cc: "Kisamore, Dan" Subject: natd question... Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:30:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We're running FreeBSD 3.5.1 w/ natd & ipfw installed. On our internal network, we have 3 public network addresses and 1 private network address. What we want to do is to translate only the private network addresses (10.0.0.0) and not translate the public addresses. It seems like the "-u" natd flag should do what we want. The documentation for this flag states: "-unregistered_only | -u Only alter outgoing packets with an unregistered source address. According to RFC 1918, unregistered source addresses are 10.0.0.0/8, 172.16.0.0/12 and 192.168.0.0/16." We have tried this and find that our private network addresses are not being translated and are being blocked by our ISP's router. We are using a class "B" subnet mask on our 10 network, 255.255.0.0, not the standard class "A" subnet mask of 255.0.0.0. Could it be that natd is not recognizing our 10 net with a class "B" subnet as an unregistered address? If not, any other ideas or thoughts on how we might accomplish this? Any input welcome... 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 7:47:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from boco.fee.vutbr.cz (boco.fee.vutbr.cz [147.229.9.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D26037B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:47:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz) Received: from kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz (kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz [147.229.8.12]) by boco.fee.vutbr.cz (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3KElOt35794 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:47:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from cejkar@localhost) by kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3KElOY58683; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:47:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:47:24 +0200 From: Cejka Rudolf To: faisal Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is ftp.freebsd.org down ? Message-ID: <20010420164724.A58585@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from fasi_74@yahoo.com on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:06:59PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG faisal wrote (2001/04/20): > Is FreeBSD,s ftp site down i am not able to access it as i have downloaded > quite much of its iso RC4 ... We have it on ftp.cz.FreeBSD.org too. -- Rudolf Cejka (cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz; http://www.fee.vutbr.cz/~cejkar) Brno University of Technology, Faculty of El. Engineering and Comp. Science Bozetechova 2, 612 66 Brno, Czech Republic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 7:49:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dsl-64-193-218-89.telocity.com (dsl-64-193-218-89.telocity.com [64.193.218.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3C6737B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:49:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lucas@slb.to) Received: (qmail 19199 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Apr 2001 14:49:35 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:49:35 -0500 From: Lucas Bergman To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: any idea why this file generates unterminated macro error? Message-ID: <20010420094935.A1492@billygoat.slb.to> Reply-To: lucas@slb.to References: <20010419162240.A39121@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010419162240.A39121@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>; from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:22:40PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: any idea why this file generates unterminated macro error? > > It's part of an encryption program, and not very long. Thanks for > checking it out. No, I don't have any idea. It compiles fine for me. billygoat % gcc --version 2.95.2 billygoat % ls sha1.* sha1.c sha1.h billygoat % gcc -Wall -c sha1.c billygoat % Lucas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 7:54:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cactus.fi.uba.ar (cactus.fi.uba.ar [157.92.49.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611EA37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:54:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fgleiser@cactus.fi.uba.ar) Received: from cactus.fi.uba.ar (cactus.fi.uba.ar [157.92.49.108]) by cactus.fi.uba.ar (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA83933; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:59:28 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fgleiser@cactus.fi.uba.ar) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:59:28 -0300 (ART) From: Fernando Gleiser To: house@lvcm.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: IPFILTER or IPFW? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please wrap your lines at 70 chars. On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, JannaDanRich wrote: > I did read somewhere that ipnat could not read from drive when kern security > level was set to 2 .. which is of course the level at which one might > expect me to set my firewall box? (this, from the best that I could > understand was "wouldn't allow me to change rules dynamically > .. therefore I rebooted machine with pass out all / pass in > all") IPNAT works fine, and gives me no worries, except for FTP .. I > found no other info about this In normal mode, the ftp server needs to make an incomming connection to the client. If your clients are been NATed, the server sees the connection coming from the NAT box, and tries to make the data connection to that box. Thats why ftp doesn't work behind a pure NAT box. To make it work, you need to enable ipnat's built in ftp proxy. Just add the following line at the top of your ipnat configuration file. map xl0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp (Change the interface name and the internal network addr to match yours) For further info, read the HOWTO (http://www.obsfuscation.org/ipfilter) Fer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 7:55:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dsl-64-193-218-89.telocity.com (dsl-64-193-218-89.telocity.com [64.193.218.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22F4F37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:55:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lucas@slb.to) Received: (qmail 19415 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Apr 2001 14:55:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:55:27 -0500 From: Lucas Bergman To: KYLECOOL@aol.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question Message-ID: <20010420095527.B1492@billygoat.slb.to> Reply-To: lucas@slb.to References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from KYLECOOL@aol.com on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:17:57AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > i cant find out where you download the freebsd software. i see ftp > sites. where is a site via: http:// The primary method of Internet distribution of FreeBSD is via FTP. HTTP-accessible mirrors may exist, but I don't know where they are. > X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Since you're using Windows, I know you can jump on the Web and choose from a bunch of really good freely-downloadable FTP clients. I suggest you get one. In particular, the FreeBSD download contains quite a few files, and a decent FTP client saves you from clicking on a bunch of links individually. Lucas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 8: 3: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dsl-64-193-218-89.telocity.com (dsl-64-193-218-89.telocity.com [64.193.218.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A62E037B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:02:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lucas@slb.to) Received: (qmail 21779 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Apr 2001 15:03:20 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:03:20 -0500 From: Lucas Bergman To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADDUSER - non-intercative Message-ID: <20010420100320.C1492@billygoat.slb.to> Reply-To: lucas@slb.to References: <20010420161554.B30960@everest.wananchi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010420161554.B30960@everest.wananchi.com>; from wash@wananchi.com on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:15:54PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > This is surely a very dumb one but never mind...I am sure dumb in > this. Not really. The man page pw(8) mentions it, but it mumbles a lot about file descriptors; I can see how it would be tough for a newbie to catch. > I am looking for command line options to pw which will accept also a > password. I have searched the archives but still don't find it. You want the -h option: # echo 'newpassword' | pw usermod myname -h 0 Lucas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 8: 6: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web14104.mail.yahoo.com (web14104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 887CE37B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:05:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k_greenwood1@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010420150557.62803.qmail@web14104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.105.201.252] by web14104.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:05:57 PDT Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:05:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "K. Greenwood" Subject: Re: How to connect to the internet through a proxy To: Rasputin Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010420093338.A53292@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the info. Seeing as how my knowledge is somewhat... limited, I'm going to scroll around the squid.conf and see if there is an option to open ports (I seem to recall something near the very top of the file) and hopefully I'll stumble onto something that works. Or would this be in vain? I know I had messed around with POP3GWD in an attempt to allow access, but gave up after noticing that TCPD was integrated into INETD. --- Rasputin wrote: > * K. Greenwood [010419 > 23:04]: > > Sorry to nudge in, but I was just curious if you > (or > > anybody) have been > > able to successfully retrieve mail from a POP > server > > through a Squid proxy server. > > Doubtful. Squid's a web/ftp/ssl proxy. > > Why is port 110 outbound blocked? > Any stateful firewall should make this reasonably > secure. > -- > Rasputin > Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 8: 7:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dsl-64-193-218-89.telocity.com (dsl-64-193-218-89.telocity.com [64.193.218.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A088E37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:07:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lucas@slb.to) Received: (qmail 15868 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Apr 2001 15:07:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:07:40 -0500 From: Lucas Bergman To: "Dpto. Ventas Altis2000, S.A." Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: <20010420100740.D1492@billygoat.slb.to> Reply-To: lucas@slb.to References: <3AE01B1F.1639454D@altis2000.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AE01B1F.1639454D@altis2000.com>; from ventas@altis2000.com on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 01:18:56PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Necesito saber quien es el distribuidro del sofware Free BSD Unix. La informacion que quiere esta en http://www.freebsd.org Para su informacion, la idioma para esta lista es ingles. Lucas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 8:11: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from a99201.mony.com (mail-ext.mony.com [206.67.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF7637B440 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tparquet@twcny.rr.com) Received: from twcny.rr.com (ds214041.soc.mony.com [141.191.214.51]) by a99201.mony.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA13594; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3AE05182.2A320306@twcny.rr.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:10:58 -0400 From: Tom Parquette X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Support for IDE CD writers? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please CC me on any replies. TIA. I would like to install a CD burner in my FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE machine. I have looked at the supported hardware list and it talks about SCSI-attached CD burners being supported. The price of the SCSI burner could be a hangup with the wife. Does FreeBSD support IDE-attached CD burners? As a point of reference, I'm looking at the HP 8250i or 9150i. Cheers... -- Try not. Do or do not. There is no try. -- Yoda To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 8:13:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cgmd76206.chello.nl (d9168.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.9.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A439D37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:13:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edwin@cgmd76206.chello.nl) Received: by cgmd76206.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EEAABF1; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:13:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:13:12 +0200 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Tom Parquette Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for IDE CD writers? Message-ID: <20010420171312.D504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , Tom Parquette , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3AE05182.2A320306@twcny.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AE05182.2A320306@twcny.rr.com>; from tparquet@twcny.rr.com on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 11:10:58AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 11:10:58AM -0400, Tom Parquette wrote: > Does FreeBSD support IDE-attached CD burners? Yes, mine is an IDE one and it works like a charm with burncd. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://FatalDimensions.nl.eu.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 8:16:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from MPI-Softtech.Com (mpi.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2D937B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:16:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@earthlink.net) Received: from mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com (dleimbac@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.164]); by MPI-Softtech.Com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MPI-Softtech/evision: 1.3 $) with ESMTP; id KAA15973; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:16:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Support for IDE CD writers? From: Dave Leimbach To: Edwin Groothuis Cc: Tom Parquette , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010420171312.D504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> References: <3AE05182.2A320306@twcny.rr.com> <20010420171312.D504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.10+cvs.2001.04.16.08.00 (Preview Release) Date: 20 Apr 2001 10:17:54 -0500 Message-Id: <987779876.1634.0.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In linux my experiences involved enabling some sort of IDE-SCSI emulation. Is this necessary in FreeBSD. I have a nice Phillips IDE CD burner I'd like to use but I would prefer to use cdrecord Forsee any problems with that situation? On 20 Apr 2001 17:13:12 +0200, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 11:10:58AM -0400, Tom Parquette wrote: > > Does FreeBSD support IDE-attached CD burners? > > Yes, mine is an IDE one and it works like a charm with burncd. > > Edwin > > -- > Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org > edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: > ------------------+ http://FatalDimensions.nl.eu.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 8:19: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D45037B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3KFIsc06588; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104201518.f3KFIsc06588@ptavv.es.net> To: "Alexandre Polli" Cc: "bsd-lista" Subject: Re: PERC3 SCSI controller In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:26:11 -0300." <005001c0c82c$aa0f0080$0c0d84c8@pucrs.br> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:18:54 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please don't send HTML to this list! Yes, 4.2-Stable added support for this RAID controller. (I believe it's really a re-labeled Adaptec, but it might be an AMI.) It's either aac (Adaptec) or amr (AMI MegaRAID). This was added fairly recently, so you really should update your system. Stable is now 4.3-RC and will become 4.3-Stable very soon. But whatever an update to stable is labeled, it has support for these controllers. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > From: "Alexandre Polli" > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:26:11 -0300 > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C0C813.8487CCC0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Greetings; > > Anyone knows if FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE has support for PERC3/Si = > controllers? Just got a Dell PowerEdge 2450 and it features one of these = > boards. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 8:20:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.targetnet.com (smtp.targetnet.com [205.150.0.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7503137B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:20:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tstrike@targetnet.com) Received: from gw-101.tor1.targetnet.com ([149.99.36.66] helo=wrk150) by smtp.targetnet.com with smtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14qchg-000N4x-01; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:20:12 -0400 From: "Tim Strike" To: Cc: Subject: RE: 4.3-RC1 && omniORB && longjmp()'ing problems Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:20:07 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <391537300.20010420093719@163.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David, Tried to rebuild omniORB and all the servants. I'm going to wipe the machine and try a brand new build of all the software, and see what happens. -t. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Xu Sent: April 19, 2001 9:37 PM To: Tim Strike Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.3-RC1 && omniORB && longjmp()'ing problems Hello Tim, Friday, April 20, 2001, 3:56:08 AM, you wrote: TS> Recently installed 4.3-RC1 and have run into some problems with CORBA TS> Servers built with OmniORB 3.0.3 -- these servers start-up okay, but when a TS> client calls the emit TS> Fatal error 'longjmp()ing between thread contexts is undefined by POSIX TS> 1003.1' at line ? in file /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_jmp.c (errno = TS> ?) TS> and die. This wasn't the case with 4.2 from ~ Janurary. I'm not sure if TS> this is a kernel problem, a gcc problem (2.95.3 vs 2.95.2), an omniorb TS> problem, or quite frankly, one of our developers problems. Has anyone else TS> experienced any difficulties / have any insight before I start an error TS> reporting process? TS> -- TS> Tim Strike (tstrike@targetnet.com) TS> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org TS> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Could you recompile omni server? I know there is something changed in 4.3RC libc_r. -- Best regards, David Xu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 8:23:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cgmd76206.chello.nl (d9168.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.9.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFB537B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:23:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edwin@cgmd76206.chello.nl) Received: by cgmd76206.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 147F7F1; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:23:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:23:36 +0200 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Dave Leimbach Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for IDE CD writers? Message-ID: <20010420172336.E504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , Dave Leimbach , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3AE05182.2A320306@twcny.rr.com> <20010420171312.D504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> <987779876.1634.0.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <987779876.1634.0.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com>; from dleimbac@earthlink.net on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 10:17:54AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 10:17:54AM -0500, Dave Leimbach wrote: > In linux my experiences involved enabling some sort of IDE-SCSI > emulation. Is this necessary in FreeBSD. I have a nice Phillips IDE CD > burner I'd like to use but I would prefer to use cdrecord I am familiar with that one> No, that is not needed: NAME burncd - control the ATAPI CD-R/RW driver Mine was automagicly recognized during boot as a CD-RW. Edwin, double speed Philips thingie ;-) -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://FatalDimensions.nl.eu.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 8:43:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.lee.net (trinity.lee.net [208.229.121.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A938D37B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:43:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from awells@journalstar.com) Received: from journalstar.com (leepcC-018.sub-c.lee.net [208.205.126.18]) by trinity.lee.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA30220; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:55:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3AE04DA5.58B18F80@journalstar.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:54:29 -0500 From: Tony Wells X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Walter Miller Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache or AOLServer? References: <000c01c0c856$3dd16690$1502290a@wmiller2K> <20010418180859.B69031@cec.wustl.edu> <01041819472700.01696@eman.ynapmoc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've monkeyed around with AOLserver for a couple months now and I like it. The user base is noticeably smaller than Apache, so it's kinda hard to find anyone who's familiar with it. What I liked about AOLS is that it has a built-in Tcl 8.3 interpreter and it has built-in persistent database connection pools. The only third-party module I need is the MySQL DB driver, which being the AOLS db interface is so clean, even I can understand. (And modify the driver slightly, which I did.) AOLS virtual hosts all listen on different ports, and from what I can tell AOLS doesn't do name-based virtual hosting, but the rumor is the next major release will have better virtual host support. I've read most of the Greenspun stuff about AOLS, but once you load the PHP module for Apache most of his points become moot. PHP has persistent database connections, PHP doesn't spawn another process etc... We run Apache/PHP and average about 30 SQL queries per second, with about 60/second peak, and the machine doesn't break a sweat. That said, it took a lot of work to get a stable Apache/PHP setup and to get the logs quiet. PHP isn't the only solution for dynamic content for Apache, and truthfully the options are staggering. Probably the only way to evaluate AOLserver is to download it and start messing around with it. Or you could ask the folks on the AOLserver mailing list for more information which you can join at http://www.aolserver.com/ Walter Miller wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 April 2001 04:08 pm, Andrew Hesford wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 03:23:43PM -0700, Walter Miller wrote: > > > Any chance FreeBSD would use AOLServer for their website now that it's > > > open sourced? It seems like AOLServer would be a better fit for > > > FreeBSD than Apache based on the supposed performance and > > > multi-threaded lead it has (and has had for quite a while) over > > > Apache. I'm actually trying to decide for myself which one to go for > > > although I'm leaning towards AOLServer but maybe you guys have some > > > good reasons why Apache is the way to go. > > > > Um... next time, buy the *expensive* acid, okay? > > > > There's a reason 60% of the World Wide Web is powered by Apache... not > > only is it open source, but it's stable, works well, supports a wide > > variety of modules, and is highly configurable. > > > > I've never seen AOLserver. It may be the greatest web server there ever > > was. But let me tell you what I know: > > > > 1) AOL's instant messenger clients and service are shitty on any > > platform. > > > > 2) AOL's internet service and its clients are shitty. > > > > 3) AOL owns Netscape, and Netscape is shitty. > > > > In all my experience with AOL and its products, I've never had a good > > experience. This leads me to be very cautious about anything they > > produce. > > > > It strikes me as odd that AOL would produce a web server; is this just > > the old-time Netscape server product renamed and repackaged? > > It's a product they got from taking over a company called Navisoft. > > > Until you can tell me who says that AOLserver outperforms Apache (AOL > > doesn't count), and who has had good experiences with it, I won't even > > begin to consider it as an Apache alternative. I fail to see > > multithreading as an immediate advantage. > > I'm looking for some good examples/experiences myselft - the whole reason for > this email. > > A little dated but probably still relevant: > > http://philip.greenspun.com/wtr/aolserver/introduction-1.html > http://philip.greenspun.com/wtr/aolserver/introduction-2.html > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 9: 0:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from MPI-Softtech.Com (mpi.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C336437B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@earthlink.net) Received: from mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com (dleimbac@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.164]); by MPI-Softtech.Com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MPI-Softtech/evision: 1.3 $) with ESMTP; id LAA19603; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:00:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Support for IDE CD writers? From: Dave Leimbach To: Edwin Groothuis Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010420172336.E504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> References: <3AE05182.2A320306@twcny.rr.com> <20010420171312.D504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> <987779876.1634.0.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> <20010420172336.E504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.10+cvs.2001.04.16.08.00 (Preview Release) Date: 20 Apr 2001 11:02:11 -0500 Message-Id: <987782531.1634.2.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Detecting the device at boot time is just a vendor string in some memory somewhere. That is different then actually having support for the device in a driver. My digicom modem for instance was detected as a PnP device but the driver system failed to get resources for it even though the modem worked in linux and windows without any goofy winmodem drivers. I had to disable the PnP on the card and assign it to COM1 to get it recognized in FBSD. In Linux My CD-RW is detected at boot but is worthless as a burner (it does read though) without IDE-SCSI emulation enabled. ATAPI devices use a very similar protocol to SCSI. They are both packet based (ATA Packet Interface) and really similar. I haven't been home today to test the burner but I hope that you are correct and I won't have to build the kernel a special way to get my burner to function as a burner and not just a reader. Dave On 20 Apr 2001 17:23:36 +0200, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 10:17:54AM -0500, Dave Leimbach wrote: > > In linux my experiences involved enabling some sort of IDE-SCSI > > emulation. Is this necessary in FreeBSD. I have a nice Phillips IDE CD > > burner I'd like to use but I would prefer to use cdrecord > I am familiar with that one> > > No, that is not needed: > > NAME > burncd - control the ATAPI CD-R/RW driver > > Mine was automagicly recognized during boot as a CD-RW. > > Edwin, double speed Philips thingie ;-) > > -- > Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org > edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: > ------------------+ http://FatalDimensions.nl.eu.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 9: 7:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09A037B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA15968 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:07:12 +0300 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:07:11 +0300 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: <<< 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [217.21.68.1] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG can anybody explain what the hell is happening? bessel:/home2/240S99/eyurtese>nslookup 217.21.68.1 Server: ns.turkuamk.fi Address: 195.148.208.2 Name: finland.ispro.net.tr Address: 217.21.68.1 bessel:/home2/240S99/eyurtese> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:57:45 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: eyurtese@turkuamk.fi Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours (fwd) +---------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | Job Title : Technical Consultant & System Administrator| | S-Mail : Talikkokatu 6B 26, Turku 20540, Finland | | Work Tel. : +90-232-2463992 | | Mobile Tel.: +358-40-5073940 | +---------------------------------------------------------+ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:15:33 +0300 (EEST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: yurtesen@ispro.net.tr Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours ********************************************** ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** ********************************************** The original message was received at Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:46:55 +0300 (EEST) from yurtesen@localhost ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to hub.freebsd.org.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [217.21.68.1] ... Deferred: 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [217.21.68.1] Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 1 day old To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 9:10:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D828637B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:10:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@uunet.co.za) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 14qdUB-0001fW-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:10:19 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id SAA11003 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:10:18 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 10901; Fri Apr 20 18:09:53 2001 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qdTk-000MT4-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:09:52 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Intel i82550 and FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:09:52 +0200 Message-ID: <86369.987782992@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> From: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I've searched the archives and checked the RELENG_4 source code and it looks like FreeBSD does not support the Intel EtherExpress i82550. Is that correct? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 9:16:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from daemon.kingsqueak.org (cc737825-a.etntwn1.nj.home.com [65.8.90.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081CF37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:16:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drmoreau@kingsqueak.org) Received: (from drmoreau@localhost) by daemon.kingsqueak.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3KGG7r63103; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:16:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from drmoreau) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:16:07 -0400 From: Chris To: Tom Parquette Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for IDE CD writers? Message-ID: <20010420121607.A63030@daemon.kingsqueak.org> References: <3AE05182.2A320306@twcny.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AE05182.2A320306@twcny.rr.com>; from tparquet@twcny.rr.com on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 11:10:58AM -0400 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Uptime: 1 day X-URL: http://www.kingsqueak.org/ X-Accept-Language: en X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG HP 9100i works like a champ, cdrecord won't work, at least I haven't figured out how to get it detected with SCSI emulation. I just use burncd and it does all I need. Fwiw, the HP seems much faster than the same drive I'd used at work but in an NT station. Reliability with burning has been 100% in FreeBSD as well. man burncd, I think you will find it quite simple to use. * Tom Parquette [010420 11:15]: > Please CC me on any replies. TIA. > > I would like to install a CD burner in my FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE machine. > I have looked at the supported hardware list and it talks about > SCSI-attached CD burners being supported. > > The price of the SCSI burner could be a hangup with the wife. > > Does FreeBSD support IDE-attached CD burners? > As a point of reference, I'm looking at the HP 8250i or 9150i. > Cheers... > -- > Try not. Do or do not. There is no try. -- Yoda > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- __ ___ __ / //_(_)__ _http://www.kingsqueak.org _/ /__ / ,< / / _ \/ _ `(_-; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from house@lvcm.com) Received: from neoone (cm082.44.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.44.82]) by 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABP55383; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <051e01c0c9b5$3c32f550$1616160a@neoone> From: "JannaDanRich" To: , "Sheldon Hearn" References: <86369.987782992@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Subject: Re: Intel i82550 and FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:16:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG you shouldn't have a problem getting it under fxp driver, for intel etherexpress pro, probably won't have some of the functionality of the dev though ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheldon Hearn" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:09 AM Subject: Intel i82550 and FreeBSD? > > Hi folks, > > I've searched the archives and checked the RELENG_4 source code and it > looks like FreeBSD does not support the Intel EtherExpress i82550. Is > that correct? > > Ciao, > Sheldon. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 9:25:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B771137B43E for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:25:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14qdhY-000GYd-00; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:24:08 +0300 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:24:07 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: Roelof Osinga Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Starting JAIL Message-ID: <20010420192407.A62988@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , Roelof Osinga , FBSD-Q References: <20010416134036.A2022@everest.wananchi.com> <3ADB6418.D9B96B6F@nisser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ADB6418.D9B96B6F@nisser.com>; from "Roelof Osinga" on Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:28:56PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 7:19PM up 4 days, 1:42, 4 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.05, 0.07 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Roelof Osinga [20010417 00:28]: writing on the subjec= t 'Re: Starting JAIL' Roelof> Odhiambo Washington wrote: Roelof> >=20 Roelof> > I am only writing to seek views from those already running JAIL Roelof> > Well, I just need some advise with JAIL as far as starting up the= JAIL Roelof> > is concerned.I did my fisrt jail yesterday but was wondering how = to Roelof> > start the jails everytime I reboot the host server. Do you have a= nice way Roelof> > to do it? Some script to automate this? I hate to think I haveto = start the Roelof> > JAIl by hand everytime. Roelof> > Secondly, how do you ensure the safety of your jail? I mean it is= possible Roelof> > that when i am logged in as root in the host server I can still m= essup Roelof> > files in the jail, right? the JAIL being a guest system, is there= a Roelof> > way to ensure noone can delete/modify those files accidentally? Roelof>=20 Roelof> Put them into a script and put that script into /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Roelof> Depending on your release you might need to check the first param Roelof> for a "start" or "stop" content. Roelof>=20 Roelof> You don't. Jail it might be, but it's still chroot() based (granted, Roelof> I'll be whipped horribly if tell it wrong... but, hey! You only live Roelof> once ;) and chroot's can be broken out of. Especially when you hand Roelof> them a shell. Roelof>=20 Roelof> HTH, Roelof>=20 Roelof> Roelof Hi Roelof, I have put the script in rc.d but it complains alot when it starts. Not that I did not specify start) and stop) but the boot messages for jail also go into the console!!! Secondly, how does one install applications inside jail?? Sysinstall doesn't work for me, or is there something the man page is silent about here? I am surprised that those users running jail are not responding to my queries. I always search the archives 1st before I get to the list. i only expose my ignorance when I MUST ;-)=20 TIA -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Double Bucky (Sung to the tune of "Rubber Duckie")=09 Double bucky, you're the one! You make my keyboard lots of fun Double bucky, an additional bit or two: (Vo-vo-de-o!) Control and Meta side by side, Augmented ASCII, nine bits wide! Double bucky, a half a thousand glyphs, plus a few! Double bucky, left and right OR'd together, outta sight! Double bucky, I'd like a whole word of Double bucky, I'm happy I heard of Double bucky, I'd like a whole word of you! -- (C) 1978 by Guy L. Steele, Jr. --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64GKnn7LIsuxjem8RAp/VAKC7ZOII4cS1b9aUF/qxRmeOoMkPCQCgr/KD AdZOvt5sjcngS21gNhUzMZc= =OsS8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 9:26: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from MPI-Softtech.Com (mpi.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F03937B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:25:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@earthlink.net) Received: from mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com (dleimbac@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.164]); by MPI-Softtech.Com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MPI-Softtech/evision: 1.3 $) with ESMTP; id LAA21504; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:25:51 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Support for IDE CD writers? From: Dave Leimbach To: Chris Cc: Tom Parquette , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010420121607.A63030@daemon.kingsqueak.org> References: <3AE05182.2A320306@twcny.rr.com> <20010420121607.A63030@daemon.kingsqueak.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.10+cvs.2001.04.16.08.00 (Preview Release) Date: 20 Apr 2001 11:27:32 -0500 Message-Id: <987784055.1634.3.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Excellent then... If there is SCSI emulation in FBSD it may be probing LUNs and why cdrecord doesn't work for you. That was the case in linux anyway. It was a bad idea to probe LUN's when doing emulation. Anyway.... I will have to try this burncd thing.... Looks promising thanks!! Dave On 20 Apr 2001 12:16:07 -0400, Chris wrote: > HP 9100i works like a champ, cdrecord won't work, at least I haven't > figured out how to get it detected with SCSI emulation. I just use > burncd and it does all I need. Fwiw, the HP seems much faster than the > same drive I'd used at work but in an NT station. Reliability with > burning has been 100% in FreeBSD as well. > > man burncd, I think you will find it quite simple to use. > * Tom Parquette [010420 11:15]: > > Please CC me on any replies. TIA. > > > > I would like to install a CD burner in my FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE machine. > > I have looked at the supported hardware list and it talks about > > SCSI-attached CD burners being supported. > > > > The price of the SCSI burner could be a hangup with the wife. > > > > Does FreeBSD support IDE-attached CD burners? > > As a point of reference, I'm looking at the HP 8250i or 9150i. > > Cheers... > > -- > > Try not. Do or do not. There is no try. -- Yoda > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > __ ___ __ > / //_(_)__ _http://www.kingsqueak.org _/ /__ > / ,< / / _ \/ _ `(_- /_/|_/_/_//_/\_, /___/\_, /\_,_/\__/\_,_/_/\_\ > /___/ /_/GPG KEY finger > @daemon.kingsqueak.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 9:27:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tao.agoron.com (tao.agoron.com [206.181.233.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0281637B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:27:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marius@agoron.com) Received: from quasi (quasi.shredco.com [206.181.233.73]) by tao.agoron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA08540; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:25:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marius Kirschner" To: "Matthew Emmerton" , "Ralph Robinson" , Subject: RE: ifconfig Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:25:19 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <002101c0c9a1$502b5a70$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Use netmask 0xffffffff (255.255.255.255) for aliases which are on the same > subnet. > And what does one put for aliases that are not on the same subnet? ---Marius To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 9:33:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648E637B622 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3KGUvp25407; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:30:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <011201c0c9b7$1ef8bdb0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Marius Kirschner" , "Ralph Robinson" , References: Subject: Re: ifconfig Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:29:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Use netmask 0xffffffff (255.255.255.255) for aliases which are on the same > > subnet. > > > > And what does one put for aliases that are not on the same subnet? The "appropriate" netmask for that subnet. For example: IP: 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 (primary IP, /24 mask) Alias: 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 (same subnet, /32 mask) Alias: 192.168.100.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 (different subnet, /24 mask) Alias 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 (different subnet, /8 mask) -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 9:49:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7923037B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from house@lvcm.com) Received: from neoone (cm082.44.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.44.82]) by 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABP56697; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <059401c0c9b9$7d267920$1616160a@neoone> From: "JannaDanRich" To: "Fernando Gleiser" Cc: References: Subject: Re: IPFILTER or IPFW? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:46:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank You, RTFM I see .. thought I'd covered everything the first time thru sorry, and thanks again Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Gleiser" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:59 AM Subject: RE: IPFILTER or IPFW? > > Please wrap your lines at 70 chars. > > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, JannaDanRich wrote: > > > I did read somewhere that ipnat could not read from drive when kern security > > level was set to 2 .. which is of course the level at which one might > > expect me to set my firewall box? (this, from the best that I could > > understand was "wouldn't allow me to change rules dynamically > > .. therefore I rebooted machine with pass out all / pass in > > all") IPNAT works fine, and gives me no worries, except for FTP .. I > > found no other info about this > > In normal mode, the ftp server needs to make an incomming connection to > the client. If your clients are been NATed, the server sees the connection > coming from the NAT box, and tries to make the data connection to that > box. Thats why ftp doesn't work behind a pure NAT box. > > > To make it work, you need to enable ipnat's built in ftp proxy. Just add > the following line at the top of your ipnat configuration file. > > map xl0 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp > > (Change the interface name and the internal network addr to match yours) > > For further info, read the HOWTO (http://www.obsfuscation.org/ipfilter) > > > Fer > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 9:57:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75B037B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:57:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Received: from DougBarton.net (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA72391; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:57:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Message-ID: <3AE06A62.483A9D41@DougBarton.net> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:57:06 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Radical Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /kernel: arplookup ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Radical wrote: > > Hello > > Today I was looked throw the /var/log/messages and found interesting errors > Exactly I found a lot off messages like this one: > /kernel: arplookup 193.219.5.2 failed: host is not on local network You need help from someone familiar with your network to properly configure your gateway and netmask. Good luck, Doug -- "One thing they don't tell you about doing experimental physics is that sometimes you must work under adverse conditions ... like a state of sheer terror." -- W. K. Hartmann Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 10: 5: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C06337B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:04:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14qeJy-000HND-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:03:50 +0300 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:03:50 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-Q Subject: Foo Message-ID: <20010420200350.A66763@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 8:02PM up 4 days, 2:26, 2 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.09, 0.07 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Gentlemen, Now about pw, is there a way I can also make it send a message when I use it to add a user, like tell it to read my /etc/adduser.message? TIA -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Sanity is the trademark of a weak mind. -- Mark Harrold --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64Gv1n7LIsuxjem8RAhBiAJoDRrVT8/zIXaB7tBhfl5m8ViMc6wCfRAMn MieDhzWa5iI6ENr8mvIn43E= =Acev -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 10:12: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFB337B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:11:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14qeQl-000HTC-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:10:51 +0300 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:10:51 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-Q Subject: OT: Sendmail Message-ID: <20010420201051.C66763@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eHhjakXzOLJAF9wJ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 8:08PM up 4 days, 2:32, 2 users, load averages: 0.05, 0.06, 0.06 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --eHhjakXzOLJAF9wJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gentlemen, I am testing Sendmail to see how flexible it can be but I am already seeing a small hurdle. If someone sends e-mail which does not have a From: (return address), ie From:<> To: questions@freebsd.org Then Sendmail complains....howto solve this?? Thanks -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. You should emulate your heros, but don't carry it too far. Especially if they are dead. --eHhjakXzOLJAF9wJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64G2bn7LIsuxjem8RAthHAJwILYbwXDfReLRIG7bnAVosWo1+9ACgmRDE O1N4Vo6RYX1xXR/Exqgw9Fk= =HeAY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eHhjakXzOLJAF9wJ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 10:20:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linuxmail.touchtunes.com (operator.touchtunes.com [216.94.139.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B538D37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdinel@touchtunes.com) Received: from touchtunes.com (dinjo.touchtunes.com [192.168.0.26]) by linuxmail.touchtunes.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA09078 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:20:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3AE06FC4.D91BE05D@touchtunes.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:20:04 -0400 From: Joel Dinel Organization: TouchTunes Digital Jukebox, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Optimizing a custom kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been building custom kernels on 4.2-RELEASE for a little while now, but I'm pretty sure I left behind a lot of stuff I could've removed. I'd like to optimize my kernel as much as possible. Here's the setup of the machine I'm building the kernel on : CPU: Celeron (601.37-MHz 686-class CPU) RAM: 128 MB ad0: 14594MB [29651/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using WDMA2 pci1: at 0.0 xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xe800-0xe87f mem 0xd8000000-0xd800 pcm0: port 0xec00-0xec3f irq 5 at device 18.0 on pci0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 I don't need USB, and I don't have any ISA cards. I don't plan on using anything connected to the serial port(s) or the parallel port. Here's my kernel config file. I didn't remove any of the serial or parallel port stuff yet. I did remove IPV6 entries, though. # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/DINJO,v 1.00 2001/04/19 16:37:07 dinjo Exp $ machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident DINJO maxusers 32 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device ppi # Parallel port interface device # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # PCM support device pcm What can I safely remove? -- Joel Dinel TouchTunes Digital Jukebox, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 10:23: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from digital.csudsu.com (digital.csudsu.com [209.249.57.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5A937B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:22:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stefan@csudsu.com) Received: by digital.csudsu.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 195C022E01; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digital.csudsu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8E61F002; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:21:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Molnar To: Linh Pham Cc: Vincent Poy , Ted Mittelstaedt , Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns , , , , , Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: > > # Hehe, that's funny... I thought Ted meant we needed Liquid > # Nitrogen or Dry Ice or something ;) > > Some people have gone as far as submerging their computers into liquid > nitrogen and using dry ice to keep it as cold as possible. > > Remember, someone turned an old SGI server into a fridge :) > Do not forget the happy fun VAXBar > -- > Linh Pham > [lplist@closedsrc.org] > > // 404b - Brain not found > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 10:30:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from maxwell.ee.washington.edu (maxwell.ee.washington.edu [128.95.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2348337B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:30:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhsmith@ee.washington.edu) Received: from maxwell (maxwell [128.95.42.10]) by maxwell.ee.washington.edu (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f3KHUokY019024 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:30:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:30:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Smith To: Subject: make release Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I need to do an NFS install, so I'm trying to build a distribution. I frequently keep my sources up to date with cvsup. When I cd to /usr/src/release and do a make release, it wants a CVSROOT variable, but I have no idea what to put here. I don't have folder containing the files it's looking for. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 10:38:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zogbe.tasam.com (hc6526bd1.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.107.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1EB37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clash@tasam.com) Received: from battleship (hc6526bd1.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.107.209]) by zogbe.tasam.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3KHcDc23450; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:38:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003101c0c9c0$abaf2560$dc02010a@battleship> From: "Joseph Gleason" To: "Odhiambo Washington" , "FBSD-Q" References: <20010420201051.C66763@everest.wananchi.com> Subject: Re: Sendmail Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:38:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Out of curiosity, what situation requires it to not complain in this case? In my opinion every message sent should have a valid return address. Anyways, you might be able to find what you want at http://www.sendmail.org/ The site has pretty good docs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "FBSD-Q" Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 13:10 Subject: OT: Sendmail Hi gentlemen, I am testing Sendmail to see how flexible it can be but I am already seeing a small hurdle. If someone sends e-mail which does not have a From: (return address), ie From:<> To: questions@freebsd.org Then Sendmail complains....howto solve this?? Thanks -Wash To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 10:40:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782D437B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:40:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3KHeJl54315 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:40:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3KHeJw54301; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:40:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.5.100] (may be forged)) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.3/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3KHe6010564; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:40:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <00a501c0c9c1$1a20c440$6405a8c0@neland.dk> From: "Leif Neland" To: "Rasputin" , References: <20010419220303.98078.qmail@web14106.mail.yahoo.com> <20010420093338.A53292@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Subject: Re: How to connect to the internet through a proxy Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:41:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f3KHeJw54301 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rasputin" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:33 AM Subject: Re: How to connect to the internet through a proxy > * K. Greenwood [010419 23:04]: > > Sorry to nudge in, but I was just curious if you (or > > anybody) have been > > able to successfully retrieve mail from a POP server > > through a Squid proxy server. > > Doubtful. Squid's a web/ftp/ssl proxy. > > Why is port 110 outbound blocked? > Any stateful firewall should make this reasonably secure. > -- The other day I had trouble with a client who's mac's wanted to retrieve pop3 through their squid. I tried adding acl pop3 port 110 http_access pop3 all But that didn't work. So I told him just to turn proxy off on pop3 Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 10:41:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from digital.csudsu.com (digital.csudsu.com [209.249.57.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F341B37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:41:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stefan@csudsu.com) Received: by digital.csudsu.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C825022E01; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digital.csudsu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F151F002; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:39:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Molnar To: Vincent Poy Cc: Linh Pham , Jeremiah Gowdy , Charles Burns , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What AMD did to get RISC86 was to buy NextGen. NextGen was a company in the mid/early 90s that devloped a new cpu that openly stated they converted "icky" CISC to "ohhh yeah" RISC. It had a few design issues. - Needed it's own Motherboard (very very odd layout) - Needed it's own Northbridge - You could buy it with and without a FPU AMD bought NextGen, and used their knowlage of the x86, intel chipsets, and Socket 7 layout and design and shoved the NextGen core and bits into a Socket 7 Package. Thus the K6 was born On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Vincent Poy wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > > > On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: > > > > # Somehow I thought the Intel and AMD x86 CPUs were CISC and had a > > # portion that was RISC. > > > > AMD uses their RISC86 engine to turn crummy x86 instructions into > > RISC-like instructions to crunch them more efficiently as it can. The > > Pentium III processors do something like that since the P6 core, but the > > original P6 core sucked at 16-bit code... so Intel had to reduce the > > optimizations in the Out-of-Order engine to increase 16-bit performance > > in the Pentium II. > > Interesting. I guess I never read about how AMD did it... I just > remember reading a comparison of the Pentium versus the PowerPC 603 I > think and it somehow gave the indication that Intel CPU's were CISC > with RISC and the PowerPC was 100% RISC. > > > In reality... the x86 processors and, what people tend to call, RISC > > processors now are really post-RISC. Trying to expand IPC and increase > > Mhz :) Intel went the opposite with the P4. > > True but speaking about AMD, PIII and the likes, where does the > Xeon fit in? > > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] > San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 10:47: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D8137B423; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:46:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Linux@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3KHku211235; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:46:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:46:56 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Cc: Subject: AMANDA, FreeBSD and manual changer Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. It seems to be weird. Either I'm to stupid to come along with a simple script or something is wrong. I have a server that should be backuped and it is attached to a single DAT tape (at this moment a HP C1533A but it changes to a single HP SureStore 40i, but this doesn't matter, does it?). I tried to configure AMANDA as taken from the ports (2.4.2p1_2) under FreeBSD 4.3-RC (a recent cvsupdated system). Well, all things run well, the configuration seems properly set up but the drive will not work! Please let me skip the tasks I did and report only the important things 'chg-manual" driver should need. I set up a file amanda.conf in which I defined the tapedrive (the user under which AMANDA runs has read and write access, this is assured!), I defined a 'changerfile' because AMANDA' chg-manual changer driver seems to derive several config files from that. I must leave this file empty. If I put in any configuration parameter I receive an error about each parameter I obtained. Well, the first thing every admin should do is to label its tapes or do a sanity check of its configuration by amcheck. I did so, either. But I always get the message to insert a cartridge into slot 0 or 1 (what I defined in the slotfile $changerfile-slot), hitting return an get neverending this only message. The same happens when trying to label a tape. Args -> -slot current -> rewind /dev/nsa0 -> status /dev/nsa0 Mode Density Blocksize bpi Compression Current: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ ---------available modes--------- 0: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ 1: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ 2: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ 3: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ --------------------------------- Current Driver State: at rest. --------------------------------- File Number: 0 Record Number: 0 Residual Count 0 -> loaded <> -> load 1 -> rewind /dev/nsa0 -> status /dev/nsa0 Mode Density Blocksize bpi Compression Current: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ ---------available modes--------- 0: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ 1: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ 2: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ 3: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ --------------------------------- Current Driver State: at rest. --------------------------------- File Number: 0 Record Number: 0 Residual Count 0 -> loaded <> This debug script was produced after to failed insertions. The last tag on each entry reports about some kind of loaded "slot" or "cardridge", but it remains always empty. That isn't correct, is it? I posted a message and a question to the AMANDA users community, but they reported to me that on several systems the manual changer works well. Some of the answers are some trackdowns to the script code and I tried to follow up what is going on in the driver script and I found something that could be highly related to the behaviour of FreeBSD's egrep and the type of arguement it gets: used=`$MT $MTF $tape status 2>&1 | tee -a $logfile | $EGREP "$ONLINEREGEX"` This is in the script /usr/local/libexec/amanda/chg-manual the position where 'used' is getting filled. But by what? $ONLINEREGEX seems to search for a kind of status report received by 'mt status' and this is what I get back: Mode Density Blocksize bpi Compression Current: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ ---------available modes--------- 0: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ 1: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ 2: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ 3: 0x24:DDS-2 variable 61000 DCLZ --------------------------------- Current Driver State: at rest. --------------------------------- File Number: 0 Record Number: 0 Residual Count 0 Obviously the script isn't capable to extract the FreeBSD specific informations to obatin the slotnumber or the arguement to decide whether the slot is loaded or not. But if I'm right, for a single slot tape drive I only have to check the status against 'tape inserted' and 'no tape' in that situation, or is this wrong? Can anyone help, please? Thanks in advance, Oliver -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 10:48:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zogbe.tasam.com (hc6526bd1.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.107.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B10437B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:48:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clash@tasam.com) Received: from battleship (hc6526bd1.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.107.209]) by zogbe.tasam.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3KHmEc26741; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:48:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007101c0c9c2$11906cd0$dc02010a@battleship> From: "Joseph Gleason" To: "Odhiambo Washington" , "FBSD-Q" References: <20010420200350.A66763@everest.wananchi.com> Subject: Re: Foo Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:48:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Personaly I would make it all part of a script. example: #!/bin/sh pw cat /etc/adduser.message |mail -s "new account created" $newuser or something like that ----- Original Message ----- From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "FBSD-Q" Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 13:03 Subject: Foo Gentlemen, Now about pw, is there a way I can also make it send a message when I use it to add a user, like tell it to read my /etc/adduser.message? TIA -Wash To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 10:52: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F1437B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:51:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@uunet.co.za) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 14qf4R-0002RZ-00; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:51:51 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id TAA25010; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:51:45 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 24965; Fri Apr 20 19:51:01 2001 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qf3d-000MZK-00; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:51:01 +0200 To: "JannaDanRich" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel i82550 and FreeBSD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:16:19 MST." <051e01c0c9b5$3c32f550$1616160a@neoone> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:51:01 +0200 Message-ID: <86757.987789061@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> From: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:16:19 MST, "JannaDanRich" wrote: > you shouldn't have a problem getting it under fxp driver, for intel > etherexpress pro, probably won't have some of the functionality > of the dev though Cool, thanks. I just need it to do 100Mbps at full-duplex. Any other bells and whistles it may have are wasted on me anyway. Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 11: 3:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from new-dns.whc.net (new-dns.whc.net [204.90.111.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB9937B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:03:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carlos@rjstech.com) Received: from null ([66.85.10.250]) by smtp.whc.net (8.11.3/8.11.3/kbp) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:03:33 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: From: "Carlos Andrade" To: Subject: PPPoE questions Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:55:39 -0600 Message-ID: <000a01c0c9c3$1cb1e480$fa0a5542@rjstech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been trying to get PPPoE to work on my rig at home PII 400 Mhz, 64 megs of Ram, FreeBSD 4.2 And when I try to invoke ppp, I get a error about a bad colon, to which I go "er what?". The line that is referenced is the following set device PPPoE:nic's name but I have seen this line typed two ways : set device PPPoE:xl1 vs set device PPPoE:xl1: which is correct? for that matter I have seen the following line typed two ways set authname YOURLOGINNAME vs set authname YOURLOGINNAME@DSLPROVIDER.TLD which is correct? ---- Carlos A. Andrade IS Manager RJS Technologies 915.845.5228 ext 13 915.845.2119 fax carlos@rjstech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 11:13:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from truemetal.org (truemetal.org [206.168.16.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3975537B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:13:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from universe@truemetal.org) Received: (qmail 7163 invoked by alias); 20 Apr 2001 18:09:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truemetal.org) (213.23.52.185) by truemetal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 18:09:34 -0000 Message-ID: <3AE07B90.E8205FDE@truemetal.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:10:24 +0200 From: universe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoE questions References: <000a01c0c9c3$1cb1e480$fa0a5542@rjstech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ppp is very picky about its config file. i've had a similar problem until i realized its missing some tabs. try default: set device PPPoE:xl1 set ... the login name depends on what your isp assigned you. let me know if it works. markus Carlos Andrade wrote: > > I have been trying to get PPPoE to work on my rig at home > PII 400 Mhz, 64 megs of Ram, FreeBSD 4.2 > And when I try to invoke ppp, I get a error about a bad colon, to which I go > "er what?". The line that is referenced is the following > > set device PPPoE:nic's name > > but I have seen this line typed two ways : > set device PPPoE:xl1 > vs > set device PPPoE:xl1: > > which is correct? > > for that matter I have seen the following line typed two ways > set authname YOURLOGINNAME > vs > set authname YOURLOGINNAME@DSLPROVIDER.TLD > > which is correct? > > ---- > Carlos A. Andrade > IS Manager > RJS Technologies > 915.845.5228 ext 13 915.845.2119 fax > carlos@rjstech.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 11:13:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9108837B422; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:13:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Linux@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3KIDj205396; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:13:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:13:45 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Cc: Subject: AMANDA, FreeBSD and manual changer, the final and solution Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs, I regret having written to early my posting. While writing it and sending, I realized, that in each chg-manula script there is the variable $ONLINEREGEX which contains some mutual expressions which are likely to be found in the report of 'mt status' when a tape is successfully loaded. But unfortunately, FreeBSD's mt reports nothing senseful for the script, so it presumes there has no tape been loaded already. I inserted a string which occurs when a tape was suceessfully loaded and recognized and all things run very well ... -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 11:15:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe20.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D95137B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:15:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from default013@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:15:19 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [24.14.93.185] Reply-To: "default013" From: "default013" To: "Tony Landells" Cc: References: <200104200719.RAA14954@tungsten.austclear.com.au> Subject: Re: re-compiling sendmail Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:15:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 18:15:19.0810 (UTC) FILETIME=[DBB3AE20:01C0C9C5] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, there is another makefile in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail, however, if you use this, you will find that it builds some kind of sendmail includes in that directory ... and not full sendmail... I wish that were the answer though... If theres something I missed, I'd love for it to be pointed out... Theres also another makefile in /usr/src/share/sendmail (if i remember right cause my server is down right now) ... not sure what that one does, but I tried that one too, and I think it just re-created /usr/share/sendmail/cf ... where you can make sendmail.cf files... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Landells" To: "Ken Bolingbroke" Cc: "default013" ; Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:19 AM Subject: Re: re-compiling sendmail > Thank you, > > That's the bit I was missing--there is a Makefile in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail > that builds the software from /usr/src/contrib/sendmail. > > I knew there had to be something there somewhere--FreeBSD's just too > good to NOT do it! > > Thanks again, > Tony > -- > Tony Landells > Senior Network Engineer Ph: +61 3 9677 9319 > Australian Clearing Services Pty Ltd Fax: +61 3 9677 9355 > Level 4, Rialto North Tower > 525 Collins Street > Melbourne VIC 3000 > Australia > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 11:15:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA33A37B443 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:15:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3KID5p25639; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:13:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <001301c0c9c5$6476ee30$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: , References: <000a01c0c9c3$1cb1e480$fa0a5542@rjstech.com> Subject: Re: PPPoE questions Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:11:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have been trying to get PPPoE to work on my rig at home > PII 400 Mhz, 64 megs of Ram, FreeBSD 4.2 > And when I try to invoke ppp, I get a error about a bad colon, to which I go > "er what?". The line that is referenced is the following > > set device PPPoE:nic's name > > > but I have seen this line typed two ways : > set device PPPoE:xl1 > vs > set device PPPoE:xl1: > > which is correct? I believe the version without the trailing colon is the proper way. > for that matter I have seen the following line typed two ways > set authname YOURLOGINNAME > vs > set authname YOURLOGINNAME@DSLPROVIDER.TLD > > which is correct? Depends on your ISP. Some ISPs just require a username, some require a whole e-mail address. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 11:18: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F3537B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:18:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3KIFlp25658; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:15:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <002101c0c9c5$c4ce0430$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Mike Smith" , References: Subject: Re: make release Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:14:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I need to do an NFS install, so I'm trying to build a distribution. I > frequently keep my sources up to date with cvsup. When I cd to > /usr/src/release and do a make release, it wants a CVSROOT variable, but I > have no idea what to put here. I don't have folder containing the files > it's looking for. Thanks. You don't need to do a 'make release' to do an NFS installation. On the host (server) machine, just do a 'make buildworld'. On the target (client) machines, NFS mount /usr/obj and /usr/src, change to /usr/src, and continue on as you would normally do. (I believe the current "correct" procedure is 'make buildkernel', 'make installkernel', reboot, 'make installworld', mergemaster.) -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 11:19:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f70.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5003337B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:19:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:19:51 -0700 Received: from 64.20.254.151 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:19:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.254.151] From: "Charles Burns" To: vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET Cc: seanp@loudcloud.com, jgowdy@home.com, lplist@closedsrc.org, kris@obsecurity.org, mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com?, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:19:50 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 18:19:51.0014 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D5A2060:01C0C9C6] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > myself) that some of the latest Athlons of series AXIA and AZIA are >labelled > > at around 1500MHz. > > I heard someone actually got one of the AXIA's to hit 2Ghz, don't >know the truth to that one though. Ya, with liquid nitrogen cooling. :-) That doesn't really count though. If you've got those kinds of resources--screw Athlons, get an 8-way P3 Xeon 4MB system or the like. 1500MHz is with normal cooling and often without even upping voltage. Hmm, if you can do that you can probably up the voltage by .2 or so and run at 1700 or 1800. Your CPU might be as hot as the surface of the sun, but hey, buildworlds would be quick. >Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ Wow--a technically competant executive? Are you hiring? :) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 11:23:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510A137B43E for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:23:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f3KIN9X24493; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:23:09 +0200 (CEST) To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: make release Message-ID: <987790989.3ae07e8d46a7d@webmail.neomedia.it> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:23:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. X-Originating-IP: 62.98.170.134 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I need to do an NFS install, so I'm trying to build a distribution. I > frequently keep my sources up to date with cvsup. When I cd to > /usr/src/release and do a make release, it wants a CVSROOT variable, but I > have no idea what to put here. I don't have folder containing the files > it's looking for. Thanks. It is looking for FreeBSD's CVS repository (or "repo" for short). Among the cvsup examples (/usr/share/examples/cvsup) should be found one Mr. cvs-supfile. Extensive discussions (and woes) can be found in the archives. Make release is THE industrial strenght test for your hardware :-) -- Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 11:36:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mira.it.uc3m.es (mira.it.uc3m.es [163.117.139.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D29337B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:36:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrh@it.uc3m.es) Received: from it.uc3m.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mira.it.uc3m.es (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KIZlV01861 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:35:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jrh@it.uc3m.es) Message-ID: <3AE08183.DC840574@it.uc3m.es> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:35:47 +0200 From: Juan Fco Rodriguez Hervella X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: quake-x11 segmentation faul Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I have FreeBSD-4.2-RELEASE with KAME software. I just have installed /usr/ports/game/quakeforge and /usr/ports/games/quakeserver. The server runs OK, I think, but when I run "quake-x11" (as root), I received a "segmentation faul - core dumped". Another question related: this ports runs under "IPv6" ?? Any suggestion will be appreciated, If you need more information please ask me. I am newbie with this game, and I would like play !! -- ********************************* Juan F. Rodriguez Hervella Universidad Carlos III de Madrid ******************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 11:41: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f258.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.16.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7A637B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:41:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:41:05 -0700 Received: from 64.20.254.151 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:41:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.254.151] From: "Charles Burns" To: mwm@mired.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:41:04 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 18:41:05.0004 (UTC) FILETIME=[74B592C0:01C0C9C9] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Charles Burns types: > > Xeon is simply a P2 or P3 that has lots of on-chip cache memory and is > > extremely overpriced. > >When I bought mine, Xeon's were also the only P2s - P3s weren't >available yet - that had a cache that ran at the CPU clock speed. The >benchmarks indicated that for many typical Unix applications, the >cache speed was nearly as important as the base CPU speed. My tests >afterwards weren't quite so clearcut, but it ran rings around the >350MHz ultrasparc that I had been considering. > >If I remember correctly, the clock speeds were also the same - the >fastest P2 and the fastest Xeon were both 450MHz. And yes, on-chip >cache is dear. > >The price on P2 Xeon's has fallen to something reasonable, so I've >upgraded those as far as I can - 450MHz with 2M of on-chip cache. With >the recent commentary about the P3 core sucking, I'm wondering if >there's any point in going to P3 Xeons, as the fastest the motherboard >will go is 600MHz. How many CPUs do you need? The Supermicro SQ2E6 supports up to four 700MHz Xeons and uses SDRAM rather than Rambus. You may look into a different mobo if you need a faster server... Might as well if you're buying new Xeons as well. Despite any flaws that the PPro core may have, AMD doesn't really have any truely server class solutions yet. Having lots of cache memory is really only very important for software that has a few MB of code that is used over and over and over, such as the search algorhythms in a database package. Because L2 cache is far faster than going to main memory, the server greatly benefits from being able to keep all or most of the frequently used code within it. (This is probably also the case with compilers, but GCC seems to be more limited by the number of times it can be spawned in a period of time than the amount of time it needs to compile a given .c file) If this isn't news just ignore me. :) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 11:45:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13307.mail.yahoo.com (web13307.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C1F7C37B43F for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:45:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kgbsoft@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010420184537.59806.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.68.27.238] by web13307.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:45:37 PDT Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:45:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Barnes Subject: App ports - versions / sourcing To: Mail List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did a search of ported applications for apache and turned up version 3.1.19. Linked to ftp download and the highest version was 3.1.12. What accounts for this difference? I don't recall an option to select stable/unstable/testing/etc. Also downloaded the entire ports library to /usr/ports and verified that it is there, but sourcing 'an existing disk file' with /usr/ports fails. What is a 'fully qualified name'? TIA -Bill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 11:53: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from switch01.switch.no (c13048.catch.sdsl.no [217.8.130.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD1A37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:53:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ros@switch.no) Received: by switch01.switch.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:45:25 +0200 Message-ID: From: Roger Svenning To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: windows networking and routing with routed Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:45:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi This might be a silly question but ... Is it possible to make windows networking pass trough routed, and if so .. how ? I have a 4.2 system running natd, ipfw and routed with four interfaces where one is the public one (xl2) , one is the DMZ (xl1) and two are for local private networks (xl0 & xl3). What I want is to make the windows networking pass trough xl0 and xl3 Am I getting it all wrong ? -Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12: 1:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [63.169.72.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352E237B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shawn@cpl.net) Received: from Shawn100 ([63.169.72.34]) by luke.cpl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA60213 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <004d01c0c9cc$272b62c0$2248a93f@Shawn100> From: "Shawn Ramsey" To: Subject: named dying Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:00:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Apr 20 11:54:31 lucas named[44634]: starting. named 8.2.3-T6B Mon Nov 20 11:27 Apr 20 11:54:31 lucas named[44634]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024) Apr 20 11:54:32 lucas named[44635]: Ready to answer queries. Can anyone tell me why this may be doing this? It is crashing every few days... named is under very little load. sysctl -a |grep maxfiles : kern.maxfiles: 2048 I thought the fdlimit was if maxfiles wasn't set high enough, but it is. Any ideas? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12: 6:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B1A37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:06:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 37DEE55407; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2617951610; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:01:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Shawn Ramsey Cc: Subject: Re: named dying In-Reply-To: <004d01c0c9cc$272b62c0$2248a93f@Shawn100> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-20, Shawn Ramsey scribbled: # Apr 20 11:54:31 lucas named[44634]: starting. named 8.2.3-T6B Mon Nov 20 # 11:27 # Apr 20 11:54:31 lucas named[44634]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024) # Apr 20 11:54:32 lucas named[44635]: Ready to answer queries. # # Can anyone tell me why this may be doing this? It is crashing every few # days... named is under very little load. What's the syslog output when named dies? For one, you are using a version of BIND that is buggy as all hell... upgrade to at least 8.2.3-RELEASE (preferably 9.1.1-RELEASE) either through the latest ports collection or download the source from ftp.isc.org/bind Because you a running a buggy version of BIND, you are probably being hacked and named exists with a code of 10 or 11. After upgrading, see if it continues to crash or not. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12: 7:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D107C37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by thehousleys.net (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3KJ7N726070; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:07:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) (authenticated) by thehousleys.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3KJ7L526062; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:07:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <3AE088E9.7E31781D@thehousleys.net> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:07:21 -0400 From: James Housley Reply-To: jim@thehousleys.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shawn Ramsey Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named dying References: <004d01c0c9cc$272b62c0$2248a93f@Shawn100> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Shawn Ramsey wrote: > > Apr 20 11:54:31 lucas named[44634]: starting. named 8.2.3-T6B Mon Nov 20 > 11:27 > Apr 20 11:54:31 lucas named[44634]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024) > Apr 20 11:54:32 lucas named[44635]: Ready to answer queries. > > Can anyone tell me why this may be doing this? It is crashing every few > days... named is under very little load. > I would check the security advisories about the know vunerabilities in bind. ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-01:18.bind.asc Jim -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign . \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . X - NO Word docs in e-mail . / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12:10:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nebula.anchoragerescue.org (cable-115-7-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.7.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC7C37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:10:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akbeech@anchoragerescue.org) Received: from galaxy.anchoragerescue.org (galaxy.anchoragerescue.org [24.237.7.95]) by nebula.anchoragerescue.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFDC040E; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:10:48 -0800 (AKDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Beech Rintoul To: "Shawn Ramsey" , Subject: Re: named dying Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:10:48 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <004d01c0c9cc$272b62c0$2248a93f@Shawn100> In-Reply-To: <004d01c0c9cc$272b62c0$2248a93f@Shawn100> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042011104800.04508@galaxy.anchoragerescue.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 20 April 2001 11:00, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > Apr 20 11:54:31 lucas named[44634]: starting. named 8.2.3-T6B Mon Nov 20 > 11:27 > Apr 20 11:54:31 lucas named[44634]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024) > Apr 20 11:54:32 lucas named[44635]: Ready to answer queries. > > > Can anyone tell me why this may be doing this? It is crashing every few > days... named is under very little load. > > sysctl -a |grep maxfiles : > > kern.maxfiles: 2048 > > > I thought the fdlimit was if maxfiles wasn't set high enough, but it is. > Any ideas? Upgrade to 8.2.3-REL its in the ports under /usr/ports/net/bind8. You may be getting hacked, causing named to crash. Beech ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - IT Manager - Instructor - akbeech@anchoragerescue.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Anchorage Gospel Rescue Mission \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | P.O. Box 230510 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99523-0510 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12:15:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www3.pacific-pages.com (www3.pacific-pages.com [192.41.48.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F3337B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:15:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@www3.pacific-pages.com) Received: from d.tracker ([216.191.72.30]) by www3.pacific-pages.com (8.8.5) id NAA18385; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:15:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3KJB3v00698 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:11:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:09:21 -0400 From: David Banning To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: make world error Message-ID: <20010420150921.A665@www3.pacific-pages.com> Reply-To: David Banning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One thing I don;t understand about cvsupping and then making world is why there would be errors; if cvsup is insuring that every bit of code is up to date, then everybody's code is the same right? So how would I get errors different than the next guy? That said here is the errors of my most recent attempt; cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl; make _EXTRADEPEND echo miniperl: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libm.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypt.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libutil.a >> .depend ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 3) configuration: Platform: osname=freebsd, osvers=4.0-current, archname=i386-freebsd uname='FreeBSD freefall.FreeBSD.org 4.0-current FreeBSD 4.0-current #0: $Date$' hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef Compiler: cc='cc', optimize='', gccversion=2.95.2 19991024 (release) cppflags='' ccflags ='' stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=undef, usevfork=true intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8 d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12 alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define Linker and Libraries: ld='cc', ldflags ='-Wl,-E -lperl -lm ' libpth=/usr/lib libs=-lm -lc -lcrypt libc=, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so.3 Dynamic Linking: dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' -Wl,-R/usr/lib' cccdlflags='-DPIC -fpic', lddlflags='-Wl,-E -shared -lperl -lm ' *** Signal 11 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12:22:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.communityconnect.com (mail.communityconnect.com [209.10.169.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50A937B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:22:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marius@mail.communityconnect.com) Received: from amavis by mail.communityconnect.com with scanned-ok (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14qgTp-00042O-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:22:09 -0400 Received: from [206.28.215.90] (helo=dt-9-45.hq.communityconnect.com) by mail.communityconnect.com with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14qgTo-00040u-00 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:22:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:22:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Marius X-Sender: marius@utterlux.hq.communitconnect.com To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: /usr/ports/airport Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anybody here have luck with setting up an Mac airport base? Can't quite get this port to work. I have the lastest sources and ports available, as well as the dependencies: airport-1.3 unzip-5.42 jdk-1.1.8 jfc-1.1.1 javavmwrapper-1.1 compat3.x is installed. I downloaded and made JFC/Swing 1.1.1 by hand as the instructions said. Yet when I run it: >milux# /usr/local/bin/airport >-cp: illegal argument >Usage: java_X [-options] class > >where options include: > -help print out this message > -version print out the build version > -v -verbose turn on verbose mode > -debug enable remote JAVA debugging > -noasyncgc don't allow asynchronous garbage collection > -verbosegc print a message when garbage collection occurs > -noclassgc disable class garbage collection > -cs -checksource check if source is newer when loading classes > -ss set the maximum native stack size for any thread > -oss set the maximum Java stack size for any thread > -ms set the initial Java heap size > -mx set the maximum Java heap size > -D= set a system property > -classpath > list directories in which to look for classes > -prof[:] output profiling data to ./java.prof or ./ > -verify verify all classes when read in > -verifyremote verify classes read in over the network [default] > -noverify do not verify any class Right, I see what the error is. /usr/local/bin/airport is simply a shell script: (forgive the long line here, I broke it up where I could.) exec /usr/local/bin/javavm -cp \ "/usr/local/share/java/classes/jfc-1.1.1/swingall.jar:/usr/local/share/airport/AirportBaseStationConfig.jar" \ AirportBaseStationConfigurator Either the port is wrong or I am missing something really obvious. Anyone have a clue? -Marius M. Rex marius@mail.communityconnect.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12:29:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www3.pacific-pages.com (www3.pacific-pages.com [192.41.48.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AFF37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:29:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@www3.pacific-pages.com) Received: from d.tracker ([216.191.72.30]) by www3.pacific-pages.com (8.8.5) id NAA21132; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:29:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3KIv7m00386 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:57:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:50:26 -0400 From: David Banning To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: X freezes whole system Message-ID: <20010420145026.A317@www3.pacific-pages.com> Reply-To: David Banning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Increasingly while using X, my system freezes. It starts usually while I'm using Netscape, the mouse pointer starts moving more slowly, in increments, rather than smoothly. Within 20 seconds or so, there is no mouse movement at all, and then the system is completely frozen. I can't even reset it. I have to power down. Because of the way it goes down, I don't even get a crash core dump. I'm using; FreeBSD d.tracker 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #5: Sun Mar 4 03:00:39 EST 2001 root@d.tracker:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/tracker i386 I have had the problem using both twm and xfce so it doesn't seem to be the window manager. Any idea about where I can start to solve this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12:33: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [63.169.72.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D66E37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:33:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shawn@cpl.net) Received: from Shawn100 ([63.169.72.34]) by luke.cpl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA86062; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006901c0c9d0$930ff150$2248a93f@Shawn100> From: "Shawn Ramsey" To: "Beech Rintoul" , References: <004d01c0c9cc$272b62c0$2248a93f@Shawn100> <01042011104800.04508@galaxy.anchoragerescue.org> Subject: Re: named dying Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:32:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Friday 20 April 2001 11:00, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > > Apr 20 11:54:31 lucas named[44634]: starting. named 8.2.3-T6B Mon Nov 20 > > 11:27 > > Apr 20 11:54:31 lucas named[44634]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024) > > Apr 20 11:54:32 lucas named[44635]: Ready to answer queries. > > > > > > Can anyone tell me why this may be doing this? It is crashing every few > > days... named is under very little load. > > > > sysctl -a |grep maxfiles : > > > > kern.maxfiles: 2048 > > > > > > I thought the fdlimit was if maxfiles wasn't set high enough, but it is. > > Any ideas? > > Upgrade to 8.2.3-REL its in the ports under /usr/ports/net/bind8. > > You may be getting hacked, causing named to crash. Ok, I just upgraded it.. Actually I had already compiled it, but hadn't install it yet since it was still giving the fdlimit message. And BTW, the person who asked what syslog shows when it crashes, it shows nothing. Since the server has been up, these messages have shown up in dmesg : pid 141 (named), uid 0: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) pid 25103 (named), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) pid 41257 (named), uid 53: exited on signal 11 pid 11938 (named), uid 53: exited on signal 11 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12:33:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48F737B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AEF5FD019A; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:33:09 -0700 Message-ID: <3AE08EF5.2FD89711@urx.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:33:09 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Banning Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world error References: <20010420150921.A665@www3.pacific-pages.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Banning wrote: > > One thing I don;t understand about cvsupping and then making world > is why there would be errors; if cvsup is insuring that > every bit of code is up to date, then everybody's code is the same > right? So how would I get errors different than the next guy? Well, it probably means you have some piece of hardware that is flaky. Read http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ and see if you can figure out what is causing it. Kent > > That said here is the errors of my most recent attempt; > > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl; make _EXTRADEPEND > echo miniperl: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libm.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypt.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libutil.a >> .depend > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) > Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) > Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) > Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 3) configuration: > Platform: > osname=freebsd, osvers=4.0-current, archname=i386-freebsd > uname='FreeBSD freefall.FreeBSD.org 4.0-current FreeBSD 4.0-current #0: $Date$' > hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define > usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef > Compiler: > cc='cc', optimize='', gccversion=2.95.2 19991024 (release) > cppflags='' > ccflags ='' > stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=undef, usevfork=true > intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8 > d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12 > alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define > Linker and Libraries: > ld='cc', ldflags ='-Wl,-E -lperl -lm ' > libpth=/usr/lib > libs=-lm -lc -lcrypt > libc=, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so.3 > Dynamic Linking: > dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' -Wl,-R/usr/lib' > cccdlflags='-DPIC -fpic', lddlflags='-Wl,-E -shared -lperl -lm ' > > *** Signal 11 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. > *** Error code 1 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12:38:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from icc.cgu.chel.su (gw.csu.ru [195.54.14.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C140D37B42C; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: from mail.cgu.chel.su (mail.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.68]) by icc.cgu.chel.su (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3KJbp985392 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:37:51 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.cgu.chel.su (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3KJbpA25356; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:37:51 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jane.poka.net (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KJGno01744; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:16:49 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:16:47 +0600 (YEKST) From: Ilia Chipitsine X-Sender: ilia@jane.poka.net To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: disc-at-once Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs, does burncd utility support DAO (disc-at-once) mode ? Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12:38:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from icc.cgu.chel.su (gw.csu.ru [195.54.14.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F1637B43C; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:38:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: from mail.cgu.chel.su (mail.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.68]) by icc.cgu.chel.su (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3KJbi985389 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:37:50 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.cgu.chel.su (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3KJbi525355; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:37:44 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jane.poka.net (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KJDmo01721; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:13:48 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:13:47 +0600 (YEKST) From: Ilia Chipitsine X-Sender: ilia@jane.poka.net To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CD-R overburning Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs, does anybody know ... 1) does burncd utility support overburning ? 2) which CD-DRIVES do support overburning ? Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12:43:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7D237B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:43:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3KJewp25880; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:40:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <007b01c0c9d1$ac104870$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "David Banning" , References: <20010420150921.A665@www3.pacific-pages.com> Subject: Re: make world error Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:39:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > One thing I don;t understand about cvsupping and then making world > is why there would be errors; if cvsup is insuring that > every bit of code is up to date, then everybody's code is the same > right? So how would I get errors different than the next guy? Well, if you're upgraded any of the build tools (perl, gcc, make) on your machine, then things may break. Also, the odd error sometimes creeps into -STABLE which causes compilation to fail. > That said here is the errors of my most recent attempt; [ ... snip ... ] > *** Signal 11 This isn't a problem with the cvsup'd code or your build tools. This is a problem with bad hardware - usually memory. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12:48:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A662437B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:48:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scaryg@sputnik.org) Received: from phantom (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3KJnOK53765 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:49:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from scaryg@sputnik.org) Message-ID: <016b01c0c9d3$4d5b5ed0$0d01a8c0@phantom> From: "ScaryG" To: Subject: burncd Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:51:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where does one get a hold of this burncd program? I'm getting an HP cd writer this weekend and I only have one bay in my small desktop winblows cpu, but I have an extra bay in my FreeBSD box... maybe I can put it in the FreeBSD box! GF> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 12:58:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B955C37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:58:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1870466B1C; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:58:07 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: faisal Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Is ftp.freebsd.org down ? Message-ID: <20010420125807.D75540@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <015e01c0c9ee$9c52b7c0$a86657ca@client2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d01dLTUuW90fS44H" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <015e01c0c9ee$9c52b7c0$a86657ca@client2>; from fasi_74@yahoo.com on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:06:59PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --d01dLTUuW90fS44H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:06:59PM -0700, faisal wrote: > Is FreeBSD,s ftp site down i am not able to access it as i have downloaded > quite much of its iso RC4 ... The network provider it's hosted on is having problems. Try a mirror site. Kris --d01dLTUuW90fS44H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64JTPWry0BWjoQKURArsfAKDV3Uf0C7jR5wYWwko3M1cLYSgbcACg58wN nw89KWRLU9qh/3oK0lng5N0= =a6BW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d01dLTUuW90fS44H-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 13: 9: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from calcon.calcon.net (ns.calcon.net [63.149.52.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A06E37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:09:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from degan@calcon.net) Received: from calcon.net (vpn1.calcon.net [63.149.52.253]) by calcon.calcon.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3JDGdu02087; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:16:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3ADEE53B.7153CA9D@calcon.net> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:16:43 -0500 From: Douglas Egan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; NetBSD 1.5 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Francisco Puente (CEA)" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCCARD-PCMCIA References: <4526F8387AE6D311926C0008C75D2E37034EE372@eambant111.cea.ericsson.se> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------89D1ACDC744E334BE628B4E3" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------89D1ACDC744E334BE628B4E3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Franciseo, Thanks for asking this question. I have subscribed, but my mail to "freebsd-questions" is not getting out. I am trying to do exactly the same thing on a Gateway Laptop. My dmesg shows that the 2 pcmcia slots are detected, but the card does not show up. Looks like 'zp0' is the device to use, but how to configure it? I look forward to your responses. Doug Egan "Francisco Puente (CEA)" wrote: > Hi, > Anyone know how to configure a 3com 589c or 3com fe575 (pcmcia) under > FreeBSD 4.2 during the installation or post-inst on Tecra 8100 > Laptop??? Thanks in advance > > Francisco > --------------89D1ACDC744E334BE628B4E3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Franciseo,

Thanks for asking this question.  I have subscribed, but my mail to "freebsd-questions" is not getting out.
I am trying to do exactly the same thing on a Gateway Laptop.

My dmesg shows that the 2 pcmcia slots are detected, but the card does not show up.  Looks like 'zp0' is the device to use, but how to configure it?  I look forward to your responses.

Doug Egan

"Francisco Puente (CEA)" wrote:

 Hi,
 Anyone know how to configure a 3com 589c or 3com fe575 (pcmcia) under FreeBSD 4.2 during the installation or post-inst on Tecra 8100 Laptop??? Thanks in advance
Francisco
--------------89D1ACDC744E334BE628B4E3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 13:16:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dannyboy.worksforfood.com (adsl-207-68-83-92.chlstn.adsl.bellatlantic.net [207.68.83.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D505937B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:16:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyboy@worksforfood.com) Received: by dannyboy.worksforfood.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F098D5A56C; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:16:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:16:21 -0400 From: Daniel Harris To: ScaryG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burncd Message-ID: <20010420161621.A74143@dannyboy.worksforfood.com> References: <016b01c0c9d3$4d5b5ed0$0d01a8c0@phantom> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <016b01c0c9d3$4d5b5ed0$0d01a8c0@phantom>; from scaryg@sputnik.org on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 03:51:33PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 03:51:33PM -0400, ScaryG wrote: > Where does one get a hold of this burncd program? I'm getting an HP cd It's in the base system as of at least 4.0, I think. -- Daniel Harris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 13:22:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13606.mail.yahoo.com (web13606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB75737B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:22:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bzdik@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010420202209.35326.qmail@web13606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.16.193.228] by web13606.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:22:09 PDT Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:22:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200104191405.KAA02788@gate1.health.state.ny.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- "Steven D. Smith" wrote: > > > you 'guys' are too much! hey, quite a few took it seriously. And I was told that BSD people have better sense of humour than Linuxenians, Linuxists and other Linuxoids. > Linh Pham on 04/19/2001 09:51:30 AM > > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > cc: Bzdik BSD , Charles Burns > , > vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET, jgowdy@home.com, kris@obsecurity.org, > mwlist@lanfear.com, freebsd@sysmach.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG > (bcc: > Steven D. Smith/HSB/ISHSG/DIVADMIN/DOH) > Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD > > > > On 2001-04-19, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: > > # It's not a real CPU unless it has fittings for the ethelyne > # glycol coolant tubes. :-) > > So a processor that has a 100W peltier attached to it, with a large > copper 'water' block attached to it... with a powerful 25G/m pump, > pumping through some type of coolant liquid wouldn't fit your > category > as a real CPU? :) > > -- > Linh Pham > [lplist@closedsrc.org] > > // 404b - Brain not found > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 13:31:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8836E37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12270; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:30:47 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:30:46 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Stefan Molnar Cc: Linh Pham , Jeremiah Gowdy , Charles Burns , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Stefan Molnar wrote: > What AMD did to get RISC86 was to buy NextGen. NextGen was a company > in the mid/early 90s that devloped a new cpu that openly stated they > converted "icky" CISC to "ohhh yeah" RISC. It had a few design issues. > > - Needed it's own Motherboard (very very odd layout) > - Needed it's own Northbridge > - You could buy it with and without a FPU > > AMD bought NextGen, and used their knowlage of the x86, intel chipsets, > and Socket 7 layout and design and shoved the NextGen core and bits > into a Socket 7 Package. Thus the K6 was born I know AMD bought NextGen when AMD had the K5 and NextGen had their 5x86 but didn't AMD also brought the Chief Engineer at Intel who designed the Pentium to AMD to create the K6? Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Vincent Poy wrote: > > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > > > > > On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: > > > > > > # Somehow I thought the Intel and AMD x86 CPUs were CISC and had a > > > # portion that was RISC. > > > > > > AMD uses their RISC86 engine to turn crummy x86 instructions into > > > RISC-like instructions to crunch them more efficiently as it can. The > > > Pentium III processors do something like that since the P6 core, but the > > > original P6 core sucked at 16-bit code... so Intel had to reduce the > > > optimizations in the Out-of-Order engine to increase 16-bit performance > > > in the Pentium II. > > > > Interesting. I guess I never read about how AMD did it... I just > > remember reading a comparison of the Pentium versus the PowerPC 603 I > > think and it somehow gave the indication that Intel CPU's were CISC > > with RISC and the PowerPC was 100% RISC. > > > > > In reality... the x86 processors and, what people tend to call, RISC > > > processors now are really post-RISC. Trying to expand IPC and increase > > > Mhz :) Intel went the opposite with the P4. > > > > True but speaking about AMD, PIII and the likes, where does the > > Xeon fit in? > > > > > > Cheers, > > Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ > > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > > WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] > > San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 13:36:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CF737B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:36:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12346; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:36:02 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:36:02 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > > > myself) that some of the latest Athlons of series AXIA and AZIA are > >labelled > > > at around 1500MHz. > > > > I heard someone actually got one of the AXIA's to hit 2Ghz, don't > >know the truth to that one though. > > Ya, with liquid nitrogen cooling. :-) > That doesn't really count though. If you've got those kinds of > resources--screw Athlons, get an 8-way P3 Xeon 4MB system or the like. Haha, I wished I got those kinda resources. I'm actually trying to build the new machine at home in my apartment and space is a issue. Wasn't one of the companies that Tom's mentions called Kyrotech or something always boosting the AMD's to the max? > 1500MHz is with normal cooling and often without even upping voltage. > Hmm, if you can do that you can probably up the voltage by .2 or so and run > at 1700 or 1800. Your CPU might be as hot as the surface of the sun, but > hey, buildworlds would be quick. Nah, I doubt it'll be as hot as the surface of the sun. Maybe it'll be like a Viking range or something. > >Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ > > Wow--a technically competant executive? Are you hiring? :) Nah, I wish... There are 4 of us and even though we founded and own the company, we still can't afford a single employee. I guess the ISP business is hard especially in Hawaii even though I am technically in San Francisco. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 13:40:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from earth.wnm.net (earth.wnm.net [208.246.240.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2806B37B62C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:40:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@wnm.net) Received: from localhost (alex@localhost) by earth.wnm.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3KKfPX06098; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:41:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:41:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Alex Charalabidis To: Vincent Poy Cc: Charles Burns , , , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Could we please get this thread off freebsd-questions? Thanks. -ac -- =================================================================== Alex Charalabidis Worldspice Technologies 5050 Poplar Ave. Memphis, TN, USA +1 901 432 6000 Opinions expressed are mine alone but may be yours for a small fee. =================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 13:43:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13106.mail.yahoo.com (web13106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CA7C37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:43:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gms08701@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010420204316.6900.qmail@web13106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.190.1.47] by web13106.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:43:16 PDT Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:43:16 -0700 (PDT) From: trini 0 Subject: ln -s & nfs To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: trini0@optonline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey all. I just added a second drive to a box running 4.3RC I moved the ports directory to the new drive edited /etc/fstab to reflect the addition and created a symlink from the old location to the new, and everyone seems ok with the change except nfs. This box is the nfs server for my cabbage patch, and when I try to mount the ports directory from the other boxes, I get ==> nfs: can't access /usr/ports: Permission denied The actual link is owned by root, and the new directory where ports now live is owned by root. What am I overlooking.. I didn't see anything in mountd, and nfs about symlinks. What am I doing wrong? Thanks trini0 Please only post to -questions as Im not subscribed.. thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 13:49:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from digital.csudsu.com (digital.csudsu.com [209.249.57.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB2F37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stefan@csudsu.com) Received: by digital.csudsu.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 14CB522E01; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by digital.csudsu.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E521F002; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:47:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Molnar To: Vincent Poy Cc: Linh Pham , Jeremiah Gowdy , Charles Burns , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From what I understand, AMD ised the NextGen as the core staring point On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Vincent Poy wrote: > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Stefan Molnar wrote: > > > What AMD did to get RISC86 was to buy NextGen. NextGen was a company > > in the mid/early 90s that devloped a new cpu that openly stated they > > converted "icky" CISC to "ohhh yeah" RISC. It had a few design issues. > > > > - Needed it's own Motherboard (very very odd layout) > > - Needed it's own Northbridge > > - You could buy it with and without a FPU > > > > AMD bought NextGen, and used their knowlage of the x86, intel chipsets, > > and Socket 7 layout and design and shoved the NextGen core and bits > > into a Socket 7 Package. Thus the K6 was born > > I know AMD bought NextGen when AMD had the K5 and NextGen had > their 5x86 but didn't AMD also brought the Chief Engineer at Intel who > designed the Pentium to AMD to create the K6? > > > Cheers, > Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] > San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > > > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Vincent Poy wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Linh Pham wrote: > > > > > > > On 2001-04-19, Vincent Poy scribbled: > > > > > > > > # Somehow I thought the Intel and AMD x86 CPUs were CISC and had a > > > > # portion that was RISC. > > > > > > > > AMD uses their RISC86 engine to turn crummy x86 instructions into > > > > RISC-like instructions to crunch them more efficiently as it can. The > > > > Pentium III processors do something like that since the P6 core, but the > > > > original P6 core sucked at 16-bit code... so Intel had to reduce the > > > > optimizations in the Out-of-Order engine to increase 16-bit performance > > > > in the Pentium II. > > > > > > Interesting. I guess I never read about how AMD did it... I just > > > remember reading a comparison of the Pentium versus the PowerPC 603 I > > > think and it somehow gave the indication that Intel CPU's were CISC > > > with RISC and the PowerPC was 100% RISC. > > > > > > > In reality... the x86 processors and, what people tend to call, RISC > > > > processors now are really post-RISC. Trying to expand IPC and increase > > > > Mhz :) Intel went the opposite with the P4. > > > > > > True but speaking about AMD, PIII and the likes, where does the > > > Xeon fit in? > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ > > > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] > > > WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] > > > San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] > > > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > > > Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:10: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49EB37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from suleyman@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (suleyman@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3KLA2N05222 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:10:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Seggerman To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: using dd to copy a DOS partition Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings: Somebody at an Open Source OS install fest suggested that I could copy an entire DOS partition to a file on a remote a UNIX file system by using dd. I just used dd: dd if=/dev/ad0s1 of=/mnt/backups/windows/filename.iso 1644993+0 records in 1644993+0 recoreds out 842236416 bytes transferred in 1599.248182 secs (526645 bytes/sec I did not specify anything in the bs= field of dd. The dd command worked. Will this give me a viable backup? The only way I could tell for for sure on my own would be by blowing away the DOS partition in question and trying to restore it with dd. If it failed it would mean reformatting the hard drive from scratch reinstalling Windows 95 on the whole thing and then partitioning and reinstalling FreeBSD. Any suggestions would be welcome. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:20:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from puke.reno.oemsupport.com (64-42-17-172.atgi.net [64.42.17.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406FC37B440 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:20:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pcalkins@oemsupport.com) Received: by puke.reno.oemsupport.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:20:21 -0700 Message-ID: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239AA@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> From: Patrick Calkins To: "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: smbfs for FreeBSD Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:20:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is this just a client? Or can I share files from FreeBSD to my Win2000 workstation using this program, so I don't have to use SAMBA. The website http://people.freebsd.org/~bp/smben.html was not too clear on this, and the documentation leaves a little to be desired (ok, a lot to be desired) ;o) Thanks Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:23:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.prokk.net (smtp.prokk.net [194.42.198.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CA337B446 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:23:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@prokk.net) Received: from user3.prokk.net (user3.prokk.net [194.42.198.103]) by smtp.prokk.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KLN1Y72432 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:23:05 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:23:47 +0300 From: green X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49e) Reply-To: green Organization: home X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <411090422.20010421002347@prokk.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: please help on pppd ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi freebsd-questions ! i'am using pppd to provide dial-in connections to my litle freebsd (4.1-release) server. but sudenly a very strange error appeard :::( after the modems made connection, users on their terminals dont see standart prompt like: FreeBSD (ttyd3) login: but they see only different strange symbols such as: jdf8&*}{!|++_#! and nothing else ::(( on server no log record can be find ::(( plz help me -------------- green@prokk.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:27:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from MPI-Softtech.Com (mpi.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E8F37B440 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:27:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@MPI-Softtech.Com) Received: from mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com (dleimbac@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.164]); by MPI-Softtech.Com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MPI-Softtech/evision: 1.3 $) with ESMTP; id QAA11312; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:27:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: using dd to copy a DOS partition From: Dave Leimbach To: Ken Seggerman Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.10+cvs.2001.04.16.08.00 (Preview Release) Date: 20 Apr 2001 16:28:47 -0500 Message-Id: <987802128.1634.13.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dos partitions are FAT. ISO is a filesystem of its own (ISO9660 for CDs) This type of backup command doesn't make sense then.. dd if=/dev/ad0s1 of=/mnt/backups/windows/filename.iso Dave On 20 Apr 2001 17:10:01 -0400, Ken Seggerman wrote: > Greetings: > > Somebody at an Open Source OS install fest suggested that I could copy an > entire DOS partition to a file on a remote a UNIX file system by using dd. > > I just used dd: > > dd if=/dev/ad0s1 of=/mnt/backups/windows/filename.iso > 1644993+0 records in > 1644993+0 recoreds out > 842236416 bytes transferred in 1599.248182 secs (526645 bytes/sec > > I did not specify anything in the bs= field of dd. > > The dd command worked. Will this give me a viable backup? > > The only way I could tell for for sure on my own would be by blowing away > the DOS partition in question and trying to restore it with dd. If it > failed it would mean reformatting the hard drive from scratch reinstalling > Windows 95 on the whole thing and then partitioning and reinstalling > FreeBSD. > > Any suggestions would be welcome. > > > Ken Seggerman > > suleyman@echonyc.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:29:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from MPI-Softtech.Com (mpi.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5279037B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:29:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@earthlink.net) Received: from mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com (dleimbac@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.164]); by MPI-Softtech.Com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MPI-Softtech/evision: 1.3 $) with ESMTP; id QAA11457; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:29:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: please help on pppd ! From: Dave Leimbach To: green Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <411090422.20010421002347@prokk.net> References: <411090422.20010421002347@prokk.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.10+cvs.2001.04.16.08.00 (Preview Release) Date: 20 Apr 2001 16:31:04 -0500 Message-Id: <987802266.1633.14.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That is correct behavior for PPP. You could use CHAP or PAP so they don't have to manually login to a terminal and avoid seeing such character. If they exit their terminal program and launch pppd on their client machines with the correct parameters they should get a connection. This is exactly how my college PPP connections were for a while on the AIX systems I used to dial into. Dave On 21 Apr 2001 00:23:47 +0300, green wrote: > hi freebsd-questions ! > > i'am using pppd to provide dial-in connections to my litle freebsd > (4.1-release) server. > > but sudenly a very strange error appeard :::( > > after the modems made connection, users on their terminals dont see > standart prompt like: > > FreeBSD (ttyd3) > > login: > > but they see only different strange symbols such as: > > jdf8&*}{!|++_#! > > and nothing else ::(( > on server no log record can be find ::(( > > plz help me > > > -------------- > green@prokk.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:32: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www3.pacific-pages.com (www3.pacific-pages.com [192.41.48.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6113437B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:32:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@www3.pacific-pages.com) Received: from d.tracker ([216.191.60.104]) by www3.pacific-pages.com (8.8.5) id PAA15594; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:31:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3KLRJo52464; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:27:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:25:02 -0400 From: David Banning To: Matthew Emmerton Cc: David Banning , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world error Message-ID: <20010420172502.B44421@www3.pacific-pages.com> Reply-To: David Banning References: <20010420150921.A665@www3.pacific-pages.com> <007b01c0c9d1$ac104870$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <007b01c0c9d1$ac104870$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca>; from matt@gsicomp.on.ca on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 03:39:53PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > *** Signal 11 > > This isn't a problem with the cvsup'd code or your build tools. This is a > problem with bad hardware - usually memory. What's a good way of going about finding out? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:36:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971A037B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:36:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from MichaelF219@home.com) Received: from cc1036857a ([24.178.178.191]) by femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010420213643.ILMW18489.femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cc1036857a> for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:36:43 -0700 Message-ID: <001101c0c9e0$c6339360$bfb2b218@bchgrv1.in.home.com> From: "Michael" To: Subject: I am having a lot of trouble with my XF86Config File, can u help asap? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:27:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0C9B6.DC835800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0C9B6.DC835800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am running FreeBSD 4.1 (KDE) on my GateWay Laptop. I had to manually = enter the XF86Config code because when I go into /stand/sysinstall and = create the file through a setup program, I still get the view of 640x480 = (or lower), and i need 1024x768 (AT LEAST) and I got this XF86Config = file off of the web (from sites that FreeBSD help has suggested) and get = the error:=20 "You must provide a "Screen" section in XF86Config fot at least one of = the graphics drivers: svga Fatal server error: No configured graphics devices X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shut down) Can you Please look at the config file below and tell me what I need to = add, I am very new with UNIX. My XF86Config file is below, thank you = very much, my last letter I sent to FreeBSD help was responded to by the = next day with THREE letters, I was very suprised and appericiative, and = think highly of your Tech. Support. Michael Faulkner=20 (If you have any other questions = about my laptop please tell me) Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" # DontZap # DontZoom EndSection Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" AutoRepeat 500 5 LeftAlt Meta RightAlt Meta XkbModel "jp106" ScrollLock Compose RightCtl Control XkbOptions "ctrl:swapcaps" XkbKeycodes "xfree86" XkbTypes "default" XkbCompat "default" XkbSymbols "us(pc101)" XkbGeometry "pc" XkbRules "xfree86" XkbLayout "jp" EndSection Section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" Emulate3Buttons Emulate3Timeout 50 EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Solo5300LCD" VendorName "Gateway2000" ModelName "Solo5300LCD" HorizSync 30-64 VertRefresh 50-90 Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 = -hsync =20 -vsync EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Generic VGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "generic" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Solo5300" VendorName "Gateway2000" BoardName "Solo5100" VideoRam 2048 EndSection Section "Screen" Driver "svga" Device "Solo5300" Monitor "Solo5300LCD" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Section "Screen" Driver "vga16" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "Solo5100LCD" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection Section "Screen" Driver "vga2" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "Solo5100LCD" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0C9B6.DC835800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am running FreeBSD 4.1 (KDE) on my GateWay=20 Laptop. I had to manually enter the XF86Config code because = when I go=20 into /stand/sysinstall and create the file through a setup program, = I still=20 get the view of 640x480 (or lower), and i need 1024x768 (AT = LEAST) and I=20 got this XF86Config file off of the web (from sites that FreeBSD help = has=20 suggested) and get the error:
 
 
 
 
"You must provide a "Screen" section in XF86Config = fot at=20 least one of the graphics drivers: svga
 
Fatal server error:
No configured graphics devices
 
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server = shut=20 down)
 
 
 
 
Can you Please look at the config file below and = tell me what=20 I need to add, I am very new with UNIX. My = XF86Config file=20 is below, thank you very much, my last letter I sent to FreeBSD help was = responded to by the next day with THREE letters, I was very suprised and = appericiative, and think highly of your Tech. Support.
 
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =     Michael=20 Faulkner
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =    (If=20 you have any other questions about my laptop please tell=20 me)
 
 
<!--StartFragment-->Section "Files"
  = RgbPath  =20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
  FontPath =20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
  FontPath =20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
  FontPath =20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
  FontPath =20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
  FontPath =20 "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section=20 "ServerFlags"
  # DontZap
  #=20 DontZoom
EndSection

Section "Keyboard"
  = Protocol =20 "Standard"
  AutoRepeat    500 5
 =20 LeftAlt   Meta
  RightAlt  Meta
  = XkbModel =20 "jp106"
  ScrollLock    Compose
  = RightCtl =20 Control

  XkbOptions    = "ctrl:swapcaps"
 =20 XkbKeycodes   "xfree86"
  XkbTypes  = "default"
 =20 XkbCompat "default"
  XkbSymbols    = "us(pc101)"
 =20 XkbGeometry   "pc"
  XkbRules  = "xfree86"
 =20 XkbLayout "jp"
EndSection

Section "Pointer"
  = Protocol =20 "PS/2"
  Device    "/dev/mouse"
 =20 Emulate3Buttons
  Emulate3Timeout  =20 50
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
  = Identifier   =20 "Solo5300LCD"
  VendorName    = "Gateway2000"
 =20 ModelName "Solo5300LCD"
  HorizSync 30-64
 =20 VertRefresh   50-90
  Modeline = "1024x768"   =20 75    1024 1048 1184 1328   768  771  = 777  806 -hsync

-vsync
EndSection

Section=20 "Device"
  Identifier    "Generic VGA"
 =20 VendorName    "Unknown"
  BoardName = "Unknown"
 =20 Chipset   "generic"
EndSection
Section = "Device"
 =20 Identifier    "Solo5300"
  = VendorName   =20 "Gateway2000"
  BoardName "Solo5100"
  VideoRam =20 2048
EndSection

Section "Screen"
  = Driver   =20 "svga"
  Device    "Solo5300"
 =20 Monitor   "Solo5300LCD"
  Subsection=20 "Display"
    Depth   = 8
   =20 Modes   "1280x1024"
    = ViewPort    0=20 0
  EndSubsection
  Subsection = "Display"
   =20 Depth   16
    Modes  =20 "1024x768"
    ViewPort    0 = 0
 =20 EndSubsection
  Subsection "Display"
   =20 Depth   24
    Modes   "800x600"=20 "640x480"
    ViewPort    0 0
  = EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
 =20 Driver    "vga16"
  Device    = "Generic=20 VGA"
  Monitor   "Solo5100LCD"
 =20 Subsection    "Display"
    = Modes  =20 "640x480" "800x600"
    ViewPort    0=20 0
    Virtual 800 600
   =20 EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
 =20 Driver    "vga2"
  Device    = "Generic=20 VGA"
  Monitor   "Solo5100LCD"
 =20 Subsection    "Display"
  Modes "640x480"=20 "800x600"
    ViewPort    0=20 0
    Virtual 800 600
 =20 EndSubsection
EndSection
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0C9B6.DC835800-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:39:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from MPI-Softtech.Com (mpi.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7469537B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:39:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@earthlink.net) Received: from mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com (dleimbac@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.164]); by MPI-Softtech.Com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MPI-Softtech/evision: 1.3 $) with ESMTP; id QAA12278; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:39:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Re[2]: please help on pppd ! From: Dave Leimbach To: green Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <51796358.20010421003533@prokk.net> References: <411090422.20010421002347@prokk.net> <987802266.1633.14.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> <51796358.20010421003533@prokk.net> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.10+cvs.2001.04.16.08.00 (Preview Release) Date: 20 Apr 2001 16:41:00 -0500 Message-Id: <987802860.1634.17.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I see you are saying they don't actually ever get to log in... well that's a doozy On 21 Apr 2001 00:35:33 +0300, green wrote: > hi Dave ! > > Saturday, April 21, 2001, 12:31:04 AM, you wrote: > > > That is correct behavior for PPP. > > > You could use CHAP or PAP so they don't have to manually login to a > > terminal and avoid seeing such character. > > > If they exit their terminal program and launch > > pppd on their client machines with the correct parameters they are>> they should get a connection. > > > This is exactly how my college PPP connections were for a while on the > > AIX systems I used to dial into. > > > Dave > > > On 21 Apr 2001 00:23:47 +0300, green wrote: > >> hi freebsd-questions ! > >> > >> i'am using pppd to provide dial-in connections to my litle freebsd > >> (4.1-release) server. > >> > >> but sudenly a very strange error appeard :::( > >> > >> after the modems made connection, users on their terminals dont see > >> standart prompt like: > >> > >> FreeBSD (ttyd3) > >> > >> login: > >> > >> but they see only different strange symbols such as: > >> > >> jdf8&*}{!|++_#! > >> > >> and nothing else ::(( > >> on server no log record can be find ::(( > >> > >> plz help me > >> > >> > >> -------------- > >> green@prokk.net > >> > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > yeah, but it's not the problem of pppd ! > > i try pap, chap and other types of connection, but the fact is, what > the user (and users computer) can't send anything to server, because > of stupid error or bug .. > > > > -------------- > green@prokk.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:46: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874B837B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:46:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3852FA924; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:44:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:44:33 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: ScaryG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burncd Message-ID: <20010420164433.A112@cec.wustl.edu> References: <016b01c0c9d3$4d5b5ed0$0d01a8c0@phantom> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <016b01c0c9d3$4d5b5ed0$0d01a8c0@phantom>; from scaryg@sputnik.org on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 03:51:33PM -0400 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 03:51:33PM -0400, ScaryG wrote: > Where does one get a hold of this burncd program? I'm getting an HP cd > writer this weekend and I only have one bay in my small desktop winblows > cpu, but I have an extra bay in my FreeBSD box... maybe I can put it in the > FreeBSD box! Update your locate database, and use `locate burncd` to find it. Alternatively, call on your old friend find. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:47:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from musique.teaser.fr (musique.teaser.net [213.91.2.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758AB37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:47:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jaco@teaser.fr) Received: from titine.fr.eu.org (Cour-N1D34-253.teaser.net [213.91.34.253]) by musique.teaser.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128AF7254E for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:47:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: by titine.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8C41133A4; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:46:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Attribution: Jaco To: Subject: rmail and sendmail From: Eric Jacoboni Date: 20 Apr 2001 23:46:59 +0200 Message-ID: <86ae5bkzvw.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) Emacs/21.0.102 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've noticed that /bin/rmail is not upgraded by a 'make installworld' (in fact, that's the only file in /bin older than this installworld). Looking at the sources, it seems that its build depend on sendmail and i don't build sendmail...(NO_SENDMAIL= true in my /etc/make.conf) because i'm using Postfix and i was thinking it was overkill to have sendmail as i never use it. Using UUCP both for News and Mail, i do need rmail. Is there a build option to enable rmail building without sendmail or should i build the whole stuff only for rmail ? If not (as i'm afraid of), is it a feature we may consider to add ? As a related question, am i wrong when thinking that i can remove all files older than my last installworld in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/lib ? Thanks in advance, -- Éric Jacoboni, né il y a 1291167292 secondes. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:51:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (fw-rl0.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA32E37B422; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3KLpLt99164; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:51:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <200104202151.f3KLpLt99164@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: CD-R overburning In-Reply-To: "from Ilia Chipitsine at Apr 21, 2001 01:13:47 am" To: Ilia Chipitsine Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:51:19 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > does anybody know ... > > 1) does burncd utility support overburning ? Yes, there is no restrictions in the driver... > 2) which CD-DRIVES do support overburning ? No idea... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:52: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (fw-rl0.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4170837B423; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:52:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3KLpcN99180; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:51:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <200104202151.f3KLpcN99180@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: disc-at-once In-Reply-To: "from Ilia Chipitsine at Apr 21, 2001 01:16:47 am" To: Ilia Chipitsine Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:51:38 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Ilia Chipitsine wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > does burncd utility support DAO (disc-at-once) mode ? Not yet. -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 14:55:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from icarus.vitria.com (scorpion.vitria.com [12.22.53.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FD837B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:55:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbarton@vitria.com) Received: by icarus.vitria.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:55:54 -0700 Message-ID: <8907CE38E11BD411B90300005A98CFB403017128@vt-sjc-ms1.vitria.com> From: Rick Barton Reply-To: rbarton@dfw.net To: "'questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: boot/netboot - a.out instead of elf Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:55:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using 4.1, and setup for diskless boot, and all seems to work fine except it appears the nb program is setup for a.out and the kernel is in ELF. Does anybody maintain this program anymore? Thanks. rick Rick Barton Technical Staff Vitria Technology, Inc. 972-739-2450 Ext. 156 P.S. Don't forget to register for Vitria's first annual User Conference, Vantage Point, in Dallas, Texas on April 29 - May 2, 2001! For more information click here: . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 15: 0:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from MPI-Softtech.Com (mpi.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1C537B43F for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:00:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@earthlink.net) Received: from mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com (dleimbac@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com [208.60.120.164]); by MPI-Softtech.Com (8.9.3/8.9.3/MPI-Softtech/evision: 1.3 $) with ESMTP; id RAA13542; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:00:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: burncd From: Dave Leimbach To: Andrew Hesford Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010420164433.A112@cec.wustl.edu> References: <016b01c0c9d3$4d5b5ed0$0d01a8c0@phantom> <20010420164433.A112@cec.wustl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: Evolution/0.10+cvs.2001.04.16.08.00 (Preview Release) Date: 20 Apr 2001 17:01:59 -0500 Message-Id: <987804120.2874.19.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG perhaps use /stand/sysinstall and do configure packages all then look for burncd in the packages on your CD... Dave On 20 Apr 2001 16:44:33 -0500, Andrew Hesford wrote: > On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 03:51:33PM -0400, ScaryG wrote: > > Where does one get a hold of this burncd program? I'm getting an HP cd > > writer this weekend and I only have one bay in my small desktop winblows > > cpu, but I have an extra bay in my FreeBSD box... maybe I can put it in the > > FreeBSD box! > > Update your locate database, and use `locate burncd` to find it. > > Alternatively, call on your old friend find. > > -- > Andrew Hesford > ajh3@chmod.ath.cx > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 15:13: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl (studict.student.utwente.nl [130.89.220.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F165737B496 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:13:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r.j.steehouder@student.utwente.nl) Received: from kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl (kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl [130.89.203.69]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.9.3/MQT) with ESMTP id AAA11670; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:12:57 +0200 (METDST) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:13:55 +0200 (West-Europa (zomertijd)) From: Rogier Steehouder Reply-To: Rogier Steehouder To: Ken Seggerman Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: using dd to copy a DOS partition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Warning: UNAuthenticated Sender MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mail from Ken Seggerman, sent 20-04-2001: > I just used dd: > > dd if=/dev/ad0s1 of=/mnt/backups/windows/filename.iso > 1644993+0 records in > 1644993+0 recoreds out > 842236416 bytes transferred in 1599.248182 secs (526645 bytes/sec > > I did not specify anything in the bs= field of dd. > > The dd command worked. Will this give me a viable backup? You can mount a file using vnconfig: # vnconfig -c /dev/vn0 # mount -t msdos /dev/vn0 /mnt Then use diff or similar to verify the backup. with kind regards, Rogier Steehouder -- ___ _ -O_\ Rogier Steehouder // | / mailto:r.j.steehouder@student.utwente.nl //\ / \ http://home.student.utwente.nl/r.j.steehouder/ // \ --------------------------------------------------------- "Bet you can't put it through the eye." "Left or right?" - Femeref Archers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 15:36: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nova.sparklist.com (nova.sparklist.com [207.250.144.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C1F637B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sparklist-admin@nova.sparklist.com) Message-Id: X-sparklist-type: unsubscribed From: "SparkLIST.com" Reply-To: "SparkLIST.com" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your unsubscribe request Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:37:58 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As you requested, you have been unsubscribed from 'fwd-newswire'. --- Return-Path: Received: from nova.sparklist.com ([207.250.144.28]) by nova.sparklist.com with SMTP (SparkLIST.com WIN32 version 4.1); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:37:57 -0500 From: questions@freebsd.org (Keep off our list you spamming bastard) To: fwd-newswire-request Subject: # Mail sent to leave-fwd-newswire was converted to these commands: unsubscribe end # This is the text of the message that triggered the action: Return-Path: Received: from nova.sparklist.com ([207.250.144.28]) by nova.sparklist.com with SMTP (SparkLIST.com WIN32 version 4.1); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:37:57 -0500 From: questions@freebsd.org (Keep off our list you spamming bastard) To: leave-fwd-newswire@nova.sparklist.com Subject: your subscription request IP:165.228.129.12 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 15:53:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B4A37B43F for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:53:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.101.235.76]) by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010420225324.HTJV4349.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:53:24 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 81E1A19647; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:53:47 -0400 From: parv To: f-q Subject: review ipf rules Message-ID: <20010420185347.A26268@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: f-q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG what do people think of following ipf rules? they're for a standalone machines connected to internet via ppp via modem only sometimes. i want to run sshd as the only server connected to internet, but at some point in future. i am on the side of paranoid as you may see below. of course, people will let me know if something is really redundant ... X is the only part that remains consistent whenever i get a dynamic ip. (i am using 4.3 rc as of apr 9 2001 ~9p est.) thanks in advance, and below are the rules... # 515::printer, 6000::X # 23::telnet, 21::ftp, 25::smtp, 79::finger, 80::http, 110::pop3 # 22::ssh, 53::domain(ns), 58::xns-mail # 587::(m)submission(a) # somebody was/is tryying to log on to port printer # 211.114.48.40:3564 # cr930156-a.glph1.on.wave.home.com:1088 #block return-icmp(net-unr) in log body quick proto udp from 211.114.0.0/16 to any #block return-rst in log body quick proto tcp from any to 211.114.0.0/16 block in log body quick from any to any with short block in log body quick from any to any with ipopts block in log quick from any to any with opt lsrr block in log quick from any to any with opt ssrr block in log quick from any to any with frags block in log quick proto tcp from any to any flags FUP block in log quick proto tcp from any to any flags SF/SFRA block in log quick proto tcp from any to any flags /SFRA block in log body quick from 192.168.0.0/16 to any head 100 block in log body quick from 172.16.0.0/16 to any group 100 block in log body quick from 10.0.0.0/8 to any group 100 block in log body quick from 127.0.0.0/8 to any group 100 block in log body quick from any to 192.168.0.0/16 group 100 block in log body quick from any to 172.16.0.0/16 group 100 block in log body quick from any to 10.0.0.0/8 group 100 block in log body quick from any to 127.0.0.0/8 group 100 # if nothing applies, block and return icmp-replies (unreachable and rst) #block return-icmp(net-unr) in log proto udp from any to any group 100 #block return-rst in log proto tcp from any to any group 100 block in on lo0 from any to any head 300 block out on lo0 from any to any head 500 pass in quick on lo0 proto tcp/udp from 127.0.0.1/24 to 127.0.0.1/24 keep state group 300 pass in quick on lo0 proto icmp from 127.0.0.1/24 to 127.0.0.1/24 keep state group 300 pass out quick on lo0 proto tcp/udp from 127.0.0.1/24 to 127.0.0.1/24 keep state group 500 pass out quick on lo0 proto icmp from 127.0.0.1/24 to 127.0.0.1/24 keep state group 500 block in log on tun0 from any to any head 200 block out on tun0 from any to any head 400 block return-icmp(net-unr) in log body quick on tun0 proto udp from any to any port = printer group 200 block return-rst in log body quick on tun0 proto tcp from any to any port = printer group 200 #block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port = printer group 200 block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port = ftp group 200 block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port = finger group 200 block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port = telnet group 200 block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port = http group 200 block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port = pop3 group 200 block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port = smtp group 200 # #block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port = 53 group 200 #block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port = ssh group 200 # block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port 5999 >< 6064 group 200 block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port = xns-mail group 200 block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port = 5432 group 200 pass in log on tun0 proto icmp from any to 0.0.0.0/0 icmp-type 0 keep state group 200 pass in log on tun0 proto icmp from any to X.0.0.0/8 icmp-type 3 keep state group 200 pass in log on tun0 proto icmp from any to X.0.0.0/8 icmp-type 11 keep state group 200 #pass in log on tun0 proto tcp/udp from any to X.0.0.0/8 keep state group 200 block out log body quick on tun0 from any to 192.168.0.0/16 group 400 block out log body quick on tun0 from any to 172.16.0.0/16 group 400 block out log body quick on tun0 from any to 127.0.0.0/8 group 400 block out log body quick on tun0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any group 400 block out log body quick on tun0 from 172.16.0.0/16 to any group 400 block out log body quick on tun0 from 127.0.0.0/8 to any group 400 pass out quick on tun0 proto udp from 10.0.0.0/24 to /32 port = 53 keep state group 400 pass out quick on tun0 proto udp from 10.0.0.0/24 to /32 port = 53 keep state group 400 pass out log quick on tun0 proto udp from X.0.0.0/8 to any port 33433 >< 33465 keep state group 400 pass out log quick on tun0 proto icmp from X.0.0.0/8 to any icmp-type 8 keep state group 400 pass out on tun0 proto tcp/udp from X.0.0.0/8 to any keep state group 400 -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 15:55:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from akira.lanfear.com (akira.lanfear.com [208.12.11.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB46F37B43E for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:55:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlist@lanfear.com) Received: from sapporo.lanfear.com (h-64-105-36-216.snvacaid.covad.net [64.105.36.216]) by akira.lanfear.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA19410; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:55:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlist@lanfear.com) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:55:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc W Message-Id: <200104202255.PAA19410@akira.lanfear.com> To: Patrick Calkins , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: Re:smbfs for FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Kiltdown 0.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG my understanding is this: SMBfs is for MOUNTING SMB volumes as FreeBSD filesystems Samba is for SHARING FreeBSD filesystems as SMB volumes. marc. Marc W, San Francisco, CA Kiltdown -- a free email client for X www.kiltdown.org -- it's what's underneath that counts. > ----------------------------- > From: Patrick Calkins > To: "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" > Subject: smbfs for FreeBSD > Sent: 04/20/01 14:20> > > > Is this just a client? Or can I share files from FreeBSD to my Win2000 > workstation using this program, so I don't have to use SAMBA. The website > http://people.freebsd.org/~bp/smben.html was not too clear on this, and the > documentation leaves a little to be desired (ok, a lot to be desired) ;o) > > Thanks > Patrick > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 15:57:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from puke.reno.oemsupport.com (64-42-17-172.atgi.net [64.42.17.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D2D37B440 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:57:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pcalkins@oemsupport.com) Received: by puke.reno.oemsupport.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:57:12 -0700 Message-ID: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239AD@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> From: Patrick Calkins To: "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: Path environment var Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:57:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been wrestling with this for months - I install a new program, it copies its exec's into /bin /sbin /usr/local/bin, etc all just fine. But I can't run them without explicitly calling them /usr/local/bin/whatever even though those are in the path. Do I need to re-fresh the path, so it sees them again?? I am using the default shell on FreeBSD 4.2 Thanks! Patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 15:58:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nova.sparklist.com (nova.sparklist.com [207.250.144.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A45737B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sparklist-admin@nova.sparklist.com) Message-Id: X-sparklist-type: unsubscribed From: "SparkLIST.com" Reply-To: "SparkLIST.com" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your unsubscribe request Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:00:20 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As you requested, you have been unsubscribed from 'fwd-newswire'. --- Return-Path: Received: from mailhost.sparknet.net ([207.67.22.123]) by nova.sparklist.com with SMTP (SparkLIST.com WIN32 version 4.1); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:59:49 -0500 Received: from don-oakes.sparklist.com (dhcp-client-26.sparklist.com [207.250.191.151]) by mailhost.sparknet.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3KN20I12111 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:02:00 -0500 Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20010420175257.00d11a80@207.67.22.123> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:54:12 -0500 To: fwd-newswire-request From: admin Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed # Mail sent to leave-fwd-newswire-2066653t was converted to these commands: unsubscribe fwd-newswire questions@freebsd.org confirm end # This is the text of the message that triggered the action: Return-Path: Received: from mailhost.sparknet.net ([207.67.22.123]) by nova.sparklist.com with SMTP (SparkLIST.com WIN32 version 4.1); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:59:49 -0500 Received: from don-oakes.sparklist.com (dhcp-client-26.sparklist.com [207.250.191.151]) by mailhost.sparknet.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3KN20I12111 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:02:00 -0500 Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20010420175257.00d11a80@207.67.22.123> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:54:12 -0500 To: leave-fwd-newswire-2066653T@nova.sparklist.com From: admin Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 16:12:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480D537B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:12:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 36042A925; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:11:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:11:01 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Dave Leimbach Cc: Andrew Hesford , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burncd Message-ID: <20010420181101.A298@cec.wustl.edu> References: <016b01c0c9d3$4d5b5ed0$0d01a8c0@phantom> <20010420164433.A112@cec.wustl.edu> <987804120.2874.19.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <987804120.2874.19.camel@mpi-plusplus.mpi-softtech.com>; from dleimbac@earthlink.net on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:01:59PM -0500 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:01:59PM -0500, Dave Leimbach wrote: > perhaps use /stand/sysinstall and do > configure > packages > all > then look for burncd in the packages on your CD... ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:17:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Siegbert.Baude@gmx.de) Received: from lilith (lilith.wohnheim.uni-ulm.de [134.60.106.64]) by mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA19617; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:17:29 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <024601c0c9f0$1ad6e980$4011a8c0@wohnheim.uniulm.de> From: "Siegbert Baude" To: Cc: References: <003801c0c6f0$157d2e70$a86657ca@client2> Subject: Re: freebsd in dos extended ? Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:17:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I haven't tried it, but this freeware boot loader claims to allow booting to > extended partitions--as many as you'd like: > http://www.xosl.org/ I'm using xosl and yes, it is able to boot from extended partitions. The problem is: FreeBSD doesn't support installation into an extended partition. Nor does FreeBSD's fdisk support extended partitions. I'm using extended partitions as /usr within FreeBSD but had to create the partition tables by hand. If buying a new disk is an option: Do it! Will save you a lot of time. Ciao Siegbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 16:17:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from outland.cyberwar.com (outland.cyberwar.com [208.17.174.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C581B37B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:17:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anarkky@cyberwar.com) Received: from localhost (anarkky@localhost) by outland.cyberwar.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3KNHXP52189 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:17:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:17:33 -0400 (EDT) From: shivak To: Subject: backend authentication scheme Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hey all, please cc me as I am not subscribed. I've been playing around with kerberos for a while, and for my purposes I believe it is overkill. I'm looking for an authentication backend which will provide centralized and a hopefully secure database of users. Of course, it would require server support, but I do not want to make changes to the client programs. Ideally it would also provide an ACL-like system (i.e. this user can log onto the mail server and the file server, but not the print server). I was looking at OpenLDAP but discovered various security flaws (ldap is the wrong software for this). Is a regular db like postgres, mysql, or even berkeley any good for my situation? thanks -- shiva To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 16:29:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nova.sparklist.com (nova.sparklist.com [207.250.144.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6B0D37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:29:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sparklist-admin@nova.sparklist.com) Message-Id: X-sparklist-type: unsubscribed From: "SparkLIST.com" Reply-To: "SparkLIST.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your unsubscribe request Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:30:12 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As you requested, you have been unsubscribed from 'fwd-newswire'. --- Return-Path: Received: from nova.sparklist.com ([207.250.144.28]) by nova.sparklist.com with SMTP (SparkLIST.com WIN32 version 4.1); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:30:12 -0500 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (Drop the other list name too you slimy sneak) To: fwd-newswire-request Subject: # Mail sent to leave-fwd-newswire was converted to these commands: unsubscribe end # This is the text of the message that triggered the action: Return-Path: Received: from nova.sparklist.com ([207.250.144.28]) by nova.sparklist.com with SMTP (SparkLIST.com WIN32 version 4.1); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:30:12 -0500 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (Drop the other list name too you slimy sneak) To: leave-fwd-newswire@nova.sparklist.com Subject: your subscription request IP:165.228.129.12 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 16:30:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h011.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90E2137B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otterr@telocity.com) Received: (cpmta 23636 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2001 16:30:40 -0700 Received: from dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com (HELO zoso) (216.227.91.85) by smtp.telocity.com (209.228.33.217) with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 16:30:40 -0700 X-Sent: 20 Apr 2001 23:30:40 GMT From: "Otter" To: "'Charles Burns'" , Cc: Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:30:32 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c0c9f1$e52fa4a0$1400a8c0@zoso> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > How many CPUs do you need? The Supermicro SQ2E6 supports up > to four 700MHz > Xeons and uses SDRAM rather than Rambus. You may look into a > different mobo or try the SQ2R6 for up to quad 900MHz Xeons... -Otter > if you need a faster server... Might as well if you're buying > new Xeons as > well. Despite any flaws that the PPro core may have, AMD > doesn't really have > any truely server class solutions yet. > > Having lots of cache memory is really only very important for > software that > has a few MB of code that is used over and over and over, > such as the search > algorhythms in a database package. Because L2 cache is far > faster than going > to main memory, the server greatly benefits from being able > to keep all or > most of the frequently used code within it. (This is probably > also the case > with compilers, but GCC seems to be more limited by the > number of times it > can be spawned in a period of time than the amount of time it > needs to > compile a given .c file) > If this isn't news just ignore me. :) > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 16:34:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h011.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AEBC37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:34:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otterr@telocity.com) Received: (cpmta 25522 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2001 16:34:43 -0700 Received: from dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com (HELO zoso) (216.227.91.85) by smtp.telocity.com (209.228.33.217) with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 16:34:43 -0700 X-Sent: 20 Apr 2001 23:34:43 GMT From: "Otter" To: "'Tom Parquette'" , Subject: RE: Support for IDE CD writers? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:34:37 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c0c9f2$772bc640$1400a8c0@zoso> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3AE05182.2A320306@twcny.rr.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So deal with the wife... ONCE. Kick in the extra cash for SCSI so you won't hafta worry about fighting with the CD-R/RW on a regular basis. -Otter > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Tom Parquette > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 11:11 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Support for IDE CD writers? > > > Please CC me on any replies. TIA. > > I would like to install a CD burner in my FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE machine. > I have looked at the supported hardware list and it talks about > SCSI-attached CD burners being supported. > > The price of the SCSI burner could be a hangup with the wife. > > Does FreeBSD support IDE-attached CD burners? > As a point of reference, I'm looking at the HP 8250i or 9150i. > Cheers... > -- > Try not. Do or do not. There is no try. -- Yoda > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 16:37:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.prokk.net (smtp.prokk.net [194.42.198.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AD337B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@prokk.net) Received: from user1.prokk.net (user1.prokk.net [194.42.198.101]) by smtp.prokk.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KNb1Y74079 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:37:02 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:27:52 +0300 From: green X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49e) Reply-To: green Organization: home X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <808536581.20010421022752@prokk.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: again pppd :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi freebsd-questions ! hi ! i get these messages in /var/log/messages : Apr 21 02:29:25 mega pppd[2888]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x41 what does this messages mean ? -------------- green@prokk.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 16:37:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay1.adelphia.net (smtprelay1.adelphia.net [64.8.25.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8C837B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:37:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from adelphia.net ([24.50.186.158]) by smtprelay1.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GC46XS03.8JL for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:37:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3AE0C8E4.DE80819E@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:40:20 -0400 From: Nader Turki X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Time zone Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi there, i'm trying to change time to GMT i looked in time zone there's nothing that says GMT. can someone tell me which option should i pick to get GMT? thanks, nader To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 16:40:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE4537B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([fec0::2e0:7dff:fe81:749d] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qkVT-000Ar5-00; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:40:07 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3KNe7R95838; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:40:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:40:06 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Time zone Message-ID: <20010421004006.D44121@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <3AE0C8E4.DE80819E@adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AE0C8E4.DE80819E@adelphia.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nader Turki wrote: > i'm trying to change time to GMT i looked in time zone there's nothing > that says GMT. can someone tell me which option should i pick to get > GMT? If you're trying to use sysinstall, don't bother. Just execute these commands manually as root: # rm -f /etc/localtime # cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT /etc/localtime -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 16:44:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.nc.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A698637B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:44:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JRAMOS2@nc.rr.com) Received: from nc.rr.com ([24.25.20.158]) by mail5.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:28:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3AE0A9E9.E8E2620B@nc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:28:09 -0500 From: J Ramos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Annoying sound problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm currently running 4.2-RELEASE, installed a few days ago. I finally got around to cvsup'ing /usr/src and ports. Made world, recompiled a kernel for sound, the same configuration I used the last time, ./MAKEDEV snd0 in /dev. Sound works, to a degree. Using xmms works fine, I can adjust levels using wmmixer, using the exact same configuration as last time. When I fire up Everybuddy, gaim, etc..., no sound. I've checked in the preferences, sound is enabled. Checking the console reveals /dev/dsp: Device busy. What causes that, and how can I hopefully fix it? Thanks for you time and help, Josh Ramos -- --- Josh Ramos --- JRAMOS2@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 16:46: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8042237B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:46:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3KNhsp26511; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:43:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <005701c0c9f3$9ddfce20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Patrick Calkins" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" References: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239AD@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Subject: Re: Path environment var Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:42:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have been wrestling with this for months - I install a new program, it > copies its exec's into /bin /sbin /usr/local/bin, etc all just fine. But I > can't run them without explicitly calling them /usr/local/bin/whatever even > though those are in the path. Do I need to re-fresh the path, so it sees > them again?? I am using the default shell on FreeBSD 4.2 If you're using csh (which I think is the default shell), you need to issue a 'rehash' command to rebuild csh's cache of files available in the PATH. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 16:47:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from puke.reno.oemsupport.com (64-42-17-172.atgi.net [64.42.17.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3307037B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:47:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pcalkins@oemsupport.com) Received: by puke.reno.oemsupport.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:47:32 -0700 Message-ID: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239AE@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> From: Patrick Calkins To: 'Matthew Emmerton' , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Path environment var Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:47:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have been wrestling with this for months - I install a new program, it > copies its exec's into /bin /sbin /usr/local/bin, etc all just fine. But I > can't run them without explicitly calling them /usr/local/bin/whatever even > though those are in the path. Do I need to re-fresh the path, so it sees > them again?? I am using the default shell on FreeBSD 4.2 If you're using csh (which I think is the default shell), you need to issue a 'rehash' command to rebuild csh's cache of files available in the PATH. -- Matt Emmerton Ok, 'rehash' does sound VERY familiar! I do thank you very much for easing this troubling pain!! :o) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 17: 2:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 3C03437B424; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:02:04 -0700 (PDT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions Message-Id: <20010421000204.3C03437B424@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:02:04 -0700 (PDT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 3 September 1999 This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? =================================================== Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 4. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 5. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 6. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 7. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 8. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 17: 2:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 7BB2E37B43E; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:02:04 -0700 (PDT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD", third edition: errata and addenda Message-Id: <20010421000204.7BB2E37B43E@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:02:04 -0700 (PDT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition Last revision: 2 August 1999 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, ``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut Creek, is no exception. In- evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The following is a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos. They relate to the third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999. You'll find this information on page iv (the page before the beginning of the Table of Contents). See the end of this document for instructions on how to find the errata for an older version. You can get the current document in four forms: o A PostScript version, suitable for printing out, at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ps. See page 302 of the third edition to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all possible, please take this document: it's closest to the original text. Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.txt. When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and underlining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ascii. This version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Only take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-3.html. All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing source text of the book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well. If you find a Page 1 The Complete FreeBSD bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at Page ii _______ The instructions on page ii (opposite the title page) tell you to look at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2 for the errata list. That's wrong. Look at this list. Pages 190 and 191 _________________ The description is not very clear about which text appears when booting from floppy for initial install, and which appears when booting normally. The procedure is very similar, but there are some differences. Add the following text after the heading Boot messages: You'll boot your system in at least two different ways: initially you'll boot from floppy or CD-ROM in order to install the system. Later, after the system is installed, you'll boot from hard disk. The procedure is almost identical, so we'll look at both versions in the following examples. Replace the text from the middle of page 191 with: If you're booting from 1.44 MB floppies, you will then see: Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: When you insert the MFS root floppy and press Enter, you see more twirling batons, then the UserConfig screen appears. UserConfig: Modifying the boot configuration ____________________________________________ After the kernel has been loaded, the following screen will appear if you are installing the system, or if you have requested it with the -c option to the boot loader: Page 206 ________ The bottom two lines on this page should be in bold constant font, indicating that this is input for your /etc/rc.config file Page 2 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition nfs_client_enable="YES" # This host is an NFS client (or NO). nfs_server_enable="YES" # This host is an NFS server (or NO). Page 265 ________ The example on the second half of the page refers to the old SCSI driver. The scsi program is no longer available in FreeBSD 3.x. Instead, use the camcontrol program. Replace the text with:. Modern disks make provisions for recovering from such errors by allocating an alternate sector for the data. IDE drives do this automatically, but with SCSI drives you have the option of enabling or disabling reallocation. Usually it is turned on when you buy them, but occasionally it is not. When installing a new disk, you should check that the parameters ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enable) and AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enable) are turned on. For example, to check and set the values for disk da1, you would enter: # camcontrol modepage da1 -m 1 -e -P 3 # scsi -f /dev/rda1c -m 1 -e -P 3 This command will start up your favourite editor (either the one specified in the EDITOR environment variable, or vi by default) with the following data: AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enbld): 0 ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enbld): 1 TB (Transfer Block): 0 RC (Read Continuous): 0 EER (Enable Early Recovery): 0 PER (Post Error): 0 DTE (Disable Transfer on Error): 0 DCR (Disable Correction): 0 Read Retry Count: 16 Correction Span: 41 Head Offset Count: 0 Data Strobe Offset Count: 0 Write Retry Count: 16 Recovery Time Limit: 0 The values for AWRE and ARRE should both be 1. If they aren't, as in this case, where AWRE is 0, change the data with the editor, save it, and exit. The camcontrol program will write the data back to the disk and enable the option. Page 3 The Complete FreeBSD Page 331 ________ The description of the config refers to the SCSI drive sd0. This is the old name; in FreeBSD version 3, SCSI drives are called da, so this reference should be da0. Thanks to Francisco Reyes for pointing out this problem. Page 362 ________ Replace the text at the top of the page with: Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel: # cd ../../compile/FREEBIE # make depend # make The make depend is needed even if the directory has just been created: apart from creating dependency information, it also creates some files needed for the build. Thanks to Mark Ovens for drawing this to my attention, and to Francisco Reyes and Bill Fumerola for pointing out that it still wasn't fixed in the third edition. Page 409 ________ The information on setting the default routers specified the wrong end of the PPP links in some places. It should always be the ``far'' end of the link. Replace the second example on page 409, and the text following it, with this text: defaultrouter="139.130.136.129" # Set to default gateway (or NO). static_routes="" # Set to static route list (or leave empty). gateway_enable="YES" # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway. This is the normal way to set the default route on a point-to-point interface. In fact, for PPP you don't need to specify the default address: the PPP packages will set it for you when the link comes up. This makes it possible to Page 4 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition set default routes when you're forced to use dynamic IP addresses, where you don't know the address at this point. We'll see how PPP does this on page 446. In the first example on page 410, the sixth example on page 412 and the second example on page 413, replace the defaultrouter definition with: defaultrouter="139.130.237.65" # Set to default gateway (or NO). Thanks to Andreas Longwitz for pointing out this error. Getting errata for older editions of the book _____________________________________________ There have been a total of five different versions of ``The Complete FreeBSD''. The most accurate way to distinguish them is by the format date, which you'll find at the bottom of page iv (the page before the beginning of the Table of Contents) in all versions of the book. 1. The first was titled ``Installing and running FreeBSD'', and was formatted on 24 February 1996. No errata list exists for this book. 2. For the first edition (19 July 1996), get ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/er- rata-1. This same file is also available via the web link http://www.lemis.com/errata-1. I am no longer updating this errata list. 3. The list for the second edition (16 December 1997) is available in four forms: o A PostScript version, suitable for printing out, at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the second edition to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all possible, please take this document: it's closest to the original text. Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and underlining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Only Page 5 Getting errata for older editions of the book take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html. 4. The revised second edition was formatted on 11 February 1999. As the name suggests, it's not a complete new edition: in fact, only three chapters are different: o The chapter ``Setting up X11'' has been brought up to date. o Appendix D (``Contents of the Ports Collection'') has been replaced by two appendixes, ``Errata and Addenda'' (the errata list up to date at the time) and ``FreeBSD 3.0'', which describes the differences between FreeBSD 2.x and FreeBSD 3.x. There is no separate errata list for this book. Refer to the second edition errata list. 5. The current, third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999. This is the correct list for this edition. Page 6 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 17: 3:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 50EAC37B42C; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:02:04 -0700 (PDT) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD", second edition: errata and addenda Message-Id: <20010421000204.50EAC37B42C@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:02:04 -0700 (PDT) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition Last revision: 21 June 1999 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, ``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut Creek, is no exception. In- evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The following is a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos. They relate to the second edition, formatted on 16 December 1997. If you have this book, please check this list. If you have the first edition of 19 July 1996, please check ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-1. This same file is also available via the web link http://www.lemis.com/. This list is available in four forms: o A PostScript version, suitable for printing out, at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the book to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all possible, please take this document: it's closest to the original text. Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and underlining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Only take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html. All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing source text of the book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well. If you find a Page 1 The Complete FreeBSD bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at General changes _______________ o In a number of places, I suggest the use of the following command to find process information: $ ps aux | grep foo Unfortunately, ps is sensitive to the column width of the terminal emulator upon which it is working. This command usually works fine on a relatively wide xterm, but if you're running on an 80-column terminal, it may truncate exactly the information you're looking for, so you end up with no output. You can fix that with the w option: $ ps waux | grep foo Thanks to Sue Blake for this information Location of the sample files ____________________________ On the 2.2.5 CD-ROM only, the location of the sample files does not match the specifications in the book (/book on the first CD-ROM). The 2.2.5 CD-ROM came out before the book, and it contains the files on the third (repository) CD-ROM as a single gzipped tar file /xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz. It contains the following files: drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/ drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/mutt/ -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 352 Oct 15 15:21 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.mail_aliases -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 9394 Oct 15 15:22 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.muttrc drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/ -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 18281 Oct 16 16:52 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.fvwm2rc -rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 1392 Oct 17 12:54 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-desktop -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 296 Oct 17 12:35 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.xinitrc -rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 622 Oct 17 13:51 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-rcfiles -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 1133 Oct 17 13:00 1997 cfbsd/scripts/Uutry -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 1028 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/README drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 18 19:32 1997 cfbsd/docs/ -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 199111 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.txt Page 2 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 189333 Oct 16 14:28 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.txt -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 188108 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.ps -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 226439 Oct 16 14:27 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.ps -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 788 Oct 16 15:01 1997 cfbsd/README -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 248 Oct 17 11:52 1997 cfbsd/errata To extract one of these files, say cfbsd/docs/packages.txt, and assuming you have the CD-ROM mounted as /cdrom, enter: # cd /usr/share/doc # tar xvzf /cdrom/xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz cfbsd/docs/packages.txt See page 209 for more information on using tar. These files are an early version of what is described in the book. I'll put up some updated versions on ftp://ftp.lemis.com/ in the near future. Thanks to Frank McCormick for drawing this to my attention. Chapter 8: Setting up X11 _________________________ For FreeBSD 2.2.7, this chapter has changed sufficiently to make it impractical to distribute errata. You can download the PostScript version from ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.ps, or the ASCII version from ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.txt. No HTML version is available. Page xxxiv __________ Before the discussion of the shell prompts in the middle of the page, add: In this book, I recommend the use of the Bourne shell or one of its descendents (sh, bash, pdksh, ksh or zsh). With the exception of sh, they are all in the Ports Collection. I personally use the bash shell. This is a personal preference, and a recommendation, but it's not the standard shell. The standard BSD shell is the C shell (csh), which has a fuller- featured descendent tcsh. In particular, the standard installation sets the root user up with a csh. See page 152 (in this errata) for details of how to change the shell. Page 3 General changes Page 11: Reading the handbook _____________________________ The CD-ROM now includes Netscape. Replace the last paragraph on the page and the example on the following page with: If you're running X, you can use a browser like netscape to read the handbook. If you don't have X running yet, use lynx. Both of these programs are included on the CD-ROM. To install them, enter: # pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/netscape-communicator-4.5.tgz or # pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/lynx-2.8.1.1.tgz The numbers after the name (4.5 and 2.8.1.1) may change after this book has been printed. Use ls to list the names if you can't find these particular versions. Note that lynx is not a complete substitute for netscape: since it is text- only, it is not capable of displaying the large majority of web pages correctly. It will suffice for reading most of the handbook, however. Thanks to Stuart Henderson and for drawing this to my attention. Page 12: Printing the handbook ______________________________ The instructions for formatting the handbook are obsolete. Replace the section starting Alternatively, you can print out the handbook with the following text: Alternatively, you can print out the handbook. You need to have the documentation sources (/usr/doc) installed on your system. You can find them on the second CD-ROM in the directory of the same name. To install them, first mount your CD-ROM (see page 175). Then enter: $ cd /cdrom/usr/doc/handbook $ mkdir -p /usr/doc/handbook you may need to be root for this operation $ cp -pr * /usr/doc/handbook You have a choice of formats for the output: o ascii will give you plain 7-bit ASCII output, suitable for reading on a character-mode terminal. Page 4 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition o html will give you HTML output, suitable for browsing with a web browser. o latex will give you LATEX format, suitable for further processing with TEX and LATEX. o ps will give you PostScript output, probably the best choice for printing. o roff will give you output in troff source. You can process this output with nroff or troff, but it's currently not very polished. LATEX output is a better choice if you want to process it further. Once you have decided your format, use make to create the document. For example, if you decide on PostScript format, you would enter: $ make FORMATS=ps This creates a file handbook.ps which you can then print to a PostScript printer or with the aid of ghostscript (see page 222). Thanks to Bob Beer for drawing this to my attention. Page 45: Preparing floppies for installation _____________________________________________ Replace the paragraph below the list of file names (in the middle of the page) with: The floppy set should contain the file bin.inf and the ones whose names start with bin. followed by two letters. These other files are all 240640 bytes long, except for the final one which is usually shorter. Use the MS-DOS COPY program to copy as many files as will fit onto each disk (5 or 6) until you've got all the distributions you want packed up in this fashion. Copy each distribution into subdirectory corresponding to the base name--for example, copy the bin distribution to the files A:\BIN\BIN.INF, A:\BIN\BIN.AA and so on. Page 80 and 81 ______________ In a couple of examples, the FreeBSD partition is shown as type 164. It should be 165. Thanks to an unknown contributer for this correction (sorry, I lost your name). Page 5 General changes Page 88: setting up for dumping _______________________________ The example mentions a variable savecore in /etc/rc.conf. This variable is no longer used--it's enough to set the variable dumpdev. Page 92 _______ At the end of the section How to install a package add the text: Alternatively, you can install packages from the /stand/sysinstall Final Configuration Menu. We saw this menu on page in figure 4-14 on page 71. When you start sysinstall from the command line, you get to this menu by selecting Index, and then selecting Configure. Page 93 _______ Before the heading Install ports from the first CD-ROM add: Install ports when installing the system ________________________________________ The file ports/ports.tgz on the first CD-ROM is a tar archive containing all the ports. You can install it with the base system if you select the Custom distribution and include the ports collection. If you didn't install them at the time, use the following method to install them all (about 40 MB). Make sure your CD-ROM is mounted (in this example on /cdrom), and enter: Page 96 _______ Replace the example at the top of the page with: Instead, do: # cd /cd4/ports/distfiles # mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles make sure you have a distfiles directory # for i in *; do > ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i > done Page 6 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition If you're using csh or tcsh, enter: # cd /cd4/ports/distfiles # mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles make sure you have a distfiles directory # foreach i (*) ? ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i ? end Thanks to Christopher Raven and Francois Jacques for drawing this to my attention. Page 104 ________ The examples at the bottom of the page and the top of the next page specify the wrong directory (/usr). It should be /usr/X11R6. Replace the examples with: For a full install, choose /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz. If you are using sh, enter: # cd /usr/X11R6 # for i in /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz; do # tar xzf $i # done If you are using csh, enter: % cd /usr/X11R6 % foreach i (/cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz) % tar xzf $i % end For a minimal installation, first choose a server archive corresponding to your VGA board. If table 8-2 on page 103 doesn't give you enough information, check the server man pages, starting on page 1545, which list the VGA chip sets supported by each server. For example, if you have an ET4000 based board you will use the XF86_SVGA server. In this case you would enter: # cd /usr/X11R6 # tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz substitute your server name here # for i in bin fnts lib xicf; do # tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331$i.tgz # done Page 7 Install ports when installing the system If you are using csh, enter: % cd /usr/X11R6 % tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz substitute your server name here % foreach i (bin fnts lib xicf) % tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/$i % end Thanks to Manuel Enrique Garcia Cuesta for pointing out this one. Page 128 ________ Replace the complete text below the example with the following: These values are defaults, and many are either incorrect for FreeBSD (for example the device name /dev/com1) or do not apply at all (for example Xqueue). If you are configuring manually, select one Protocol and one Device entry from the following selection. If you must use a two-button mouse, uncomment the keyword Emulate3Buttons--in this mode, pressing both mouse buttons simultane- ously within Emulate3Timeout milliseconds causes the server to report a middle button press. Section "Pointer" Protocol "Microsoft" for Microsoft protocol mice Protocol "MouseMan" for Logitech mice Protocol "PS/2" for a PS/2 mouse Protocol "Busmouse" for a bus mouse Device "/dev/ttyd0" for a mouse on the first serial port Device "/dev/ttyd1" for a mouse on the second serial port Device "/dev/ttyd2" for a mouse on the third serial port Device "/dev/ttyd3" for a mouse on the fourth serial port Device "/dev/psm0" for a PS/2 mouse Device "/dev/mse0" for a bus mouse Emulate3Buttons only for a two-button mouse EndSection You'll notice that the protocol name does not always match the manufacturer's Page 8 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition name. In particular, the Logitech protocol only applies to older Logitech mice. The newer ones use either the MouseMan or Microsoft protocols. Nearly all modern serial mice run one of these two protocols, and most run both. If you are using a bus mouse or a PS/2 mouse, make sure that the device driver is included in the kernel. The GENERIC kernel contains drivers for both mice, but the PS/2 driver is disabled. Use UserConfig (see page 50) to enable it. Page 140 ________ Just before the paragraph The super user add the following paragraph: If you do manage to lose the root password, all may not be lost. Reboot the machine to single user mode (see page 157), and enter: # mount -u / mount root file system read/write # mount /usr mount /usr file system (if separate) # passwd root change the password for root Enter new password: Enter password again: # ^D enter ctrl-D to continue with startup If you have a separate /usr file system (the normal case), you need to mount it as well, since the passwd program is in the directory /usr/bin. Note that you should explicitly state the name root: in single user mode, the system doesn't have the concept of user IDs. Page 148 ________ Replace the text at the top of the page with: Modern shells supply command line editing which resembles the editors vi or Emacs. In bash, sh, ksh, and zsh you can make the choice by entering Page 152 ________ After figure 10-8, add the following text: It would be tedious for every user to put settings in their private initialization files, so the shells also read a system-wide default file. For the Bourne shell family, it is /etc/profile, while the C shell family has three Page 9 Install ports when installing the system files: /etc/csh.login to be executed on login, /etc/csh.cshrc to be executed when a new shell is started after you log in, and /etc/csh.logout to be executed when you stop a shell. The start files are executed before the corresponding individual files. In addition, login classes (page 141) offer another method of setting environment variables at a global level. Changing your shell ___________________ The FreeBSD installation gives root a C shell, csh. This is the traditional Berkeley shell, but it has a number of disadvantages: command line editing is very primitive, and the script language is significantly different from that of the Bourne shell, which is the de facto standard for shell scripts: if you stay with the C shell, you may still need to understand the Bourne shell. The latest version of the Bourne shell sh also includes some command line editing. See page 148 for details of how to enable it. You can get better command line editing with tcsh, in the Ports Collection. You can get both better command line editing and Bourne shell syntax with bash, also in the Ports Collection. If you have root access, you can use vipw to change your shell, but there's a more general way: use chsh (Change Shell). Simply run the program. It starts your favourite editor (as defined by the EDITOR environment variable). Here's an example before: #Changing user database information for velte. Shell: /bin/csh Full Name: Jack Velte Location: Office Phone: Home Phone: You can change anything after the colons. For example, you might change this to: #Changing user database information for velte. Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash Full Name: Jack Velte Location: On the road Office Phone: +1-408-555-1999 Home Phone: Page 10 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition chsh checks and updates the password files when you save the modifications and exit the editor. The next time you log in, you get the new shell. chsh tries to ensure you don't make any mistakes--for example, it won't let you enter the name of a shell which isn't mentioned in the file /etc/shells--but it's a very good idea to check the shell before logging out. You can try this with su, which you normally use to become super user: bumble# su velte Password: su-2.00$ note the new prompt There are a couple of problems in using tcsh or bash as a root shell: o The shell for root must be on the root file system, otherwise it will not work in single user mode. Unfortunately, most ports of shells put the shell in the directory /usr/local/bin, which is almost never on the root file system. o Most shells are dynamically linked: they rely on library routines in files such as /usr/lib/libc.a. These files are not available in single user mode, so the shells won't work. You can solve this problem by creating statically linked versions of the shell, but this requires programming experience beyond the scope of this book. If you can get hold of a statically linked version, perform the following steps to install it: o Copy the shell to /bin, for example: # cp /usr/local/bin/bash /bin o Add the name of the shell to /etc/shells, in this example the line in bold print: # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using # one of these shells. /bin/sh /bin/csh /bin/bash You can then change the shell for root as described above. Page 11 Install ports when installing the system Thanks to Lars Koller for drawing this to my attention. Page 160 ________ Replace the text at the fourth bullet with the augmented text: The second-level boot locates the kernel, by default the file /kernel on the root file system, and loads it into memory. It prints the Boot: prompt at this point so that you can influence this choice--see the man page on page 579 for more details of what you can enter at this prompt. Page 169 ________ Replace the last paragraph on the page with: The standard solution for these problems is to relocate the /tmp file system to a different directory, say /usr/tmp, and create a symbolic link from /usr/tmp to /tmp--see Chapter 4, Installing FreeBSD, page 72, for more details. Thanks to Charlie Sorsby for drawing this to my attention. Page 176 ________ Add the following paragraph Unmounting file systems When you mount a file system, the system assumes it is going to stay there, and in the interests of efficiency it delays writing data back to the file system. This is the same effect we discussed on page 158. As a result, if you want to stop using a file system, you need to tell the system about it. You do this with the umount command. Note the spelling--there's no n in the command name. You need to do this even with read-only media such as CD-ROMs: the system assumes it can access the data from a mounted file system, and it gets quite unhappy if it can't. Where possible, it locks removable media so that you can't remove them from the device until you unmount them. Using umount is straightforward: just tell it what to unmount, either the device name or the directory name. For example, to unmount the CD-ROM we Page 12 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition mounted in the example above, you could enter one of these commands: # umount /dev/cd1a # umount /cd1 Before unmounting a file system, umount checks that nobody is using it. If somebody is using it, it will refuse to unmount it with a message like umount: /cd1: Device busy. This message often occurs because you have changed your directory to a directory on the file system you want to remove. For example (which also shows the usefulness of having directory names in the prompt): === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 16 -> umount /cd1 umount: /cd1: Device busy === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 17 -> cd === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 18 -> umount /cd1 === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 19 -> Thanks to Ken Deboy for pointing out this omission. Page 180 ________ The example in the middle of the page should read: For example, to generate a second set of 32 pseudo-terminals, enter: # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV pty1 You can generate up to 256 pseudo-terminals. They are named ttyp0 through ttypv, ttyq0 through ttyqv, ttyr0 through ttyrv, ttys0 through ttysv, ttyP0 through ttyPv, ttyQ0 through ttyQv, ttyR0 through ttyRv and ttyS0 through ttySv. To create each set of 32 terminals, use the number of the set: the first set is pty0, and the eighth set is pty7. Note that some processes, such as xterm, only look at ttyp0 through ttysv. Thanks to Karl Wagner for pointing out this error. Page 197, first line ____________________ The text of the first full sentence reads: Page 13 Install ports when installing the system The first name, up the the symbol, is the label. In fact, it should read: The first name, up to the | symbol, is the label. Page 208, middle of page ________________________ The example shows the file name /dev/rst0 when using the Bourne shell, and /dev/nrst0 when using C shell and friends. This is inconsistent; use /dev/nrst0 with any shell if you want a non-rewinding tape, or /dev/rst0 if you want a rewinding tape. Thanks to Norman C Rice for pointing out this one. Page 219 ________ Before the section Testing the spooler add the following section: As we saw above, the line printer daemon lpd is responsible for printing spooled jobs. By default it isn't started at boot time. If you're root, you can start it by name: # lpd Normally, however, you will want it to be started automatically when the system starts up. You do this by setting the variable lpd_enable in /etc/rc.conf: lpd_enable="YES" # Run the line printer daemon See page for more details of /etc/rc.conf. Another line in /etc/rc.conf refers to the line printer daemon: lpd_flags="" # Flags to lpd (if enabled). You don't normally need to change this line. See the man page for lpd for details of the flags. Thanks to Tommy G. James for bringing this to my attention. Page 14 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition Page 231 ________ Replace the first line of the example with: xhost presto bumble gw The original version allowed anybody on the Internet to access your system. Thanks to Jerry Dunham for drawing this one to my attention. Page 237 ________ In the section Installing the sample desktop, replace the first paragraph with: You'll find all the files described in this chapter on the first CD-ROM (Installation CD-ROM) in the directory /book. Remember that you must mount the CD-ROM before you can access the files--see page 175 for further details. The individual scripts are in the directory /book/scripts, but you'll probably find it easier to install them with the script install-desktop: Thanks to Chris Kaiser for drawing this to my attention. Page 242 ________ The instructions for extracting the source files from CD-ROM in the middle of page 242 are incorrect. You'll find the kernel sources on the first CD-ROM in the directory /src. Replace the example with: # mkdir -p /usr/src/sys # ln -s /usr/src/sys /sys # cd / # cat /cdrom/src/ssys.[a-d]* | tar xzvf - Thanks to Raymond Noel , Suttipan Limanond and Satwant for finding this one in several small slices. Page 15 Install ports when installing the system Page 257 ________ Replace the paragraph Berkeley Packet Filter with: pseudo-device bpfilter ______________________ The Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf) allows you to capture packets crossing a network interface to disk or to examine them with the tcpdump program. Note that this capability represents a significant compromise of network security. The number after bpfilter is the number of concurrent processes that can use the facility. Not all network interfaces support bpf. In order to use the Berkeley Packet Filter, you must also create the device nodes /dev/bpf0 to /dev/bpf3 (if you're using the default number 4). Current- ly, MAKEDEV doesn't help much--you need to create each device separately: # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV bpf0 # ./MAKEDEV bpf1 # ./MAKEDEV bpf2 # ./MAKEDEV bpf3 Thanks to Christopher Raven for drawing this to my attention. Page 264 ________ In the list of disk driver flags, add: o Bit 12 (0x1000) enables LBA (logical block addressing mode). If this bit is not set, the driver accesses the disk in CHS (cylinder/head/sector) mode. o In CHS mode, if bits 11 to 8 are not equal to 0, they specify the number of heads to assume (between 1 and 15). The driver recalculates the number of cylinders to make up the total size of the disk. Page 16 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition Page 273, ``Building the kernel'' _________________________________ Replace the example with: Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel: # cd ../../compile/FREEBIE # make depend # make The make depend is needed even if the directory has just been created: apart from creating dependency information, it also creates some files needed for the build. Thanks to Mark Ovens for drawing this to my attention. Page 283, ``Creating the source tree'' ______________________________________ Add a third point to what you need to know: 3. Possibly, the date of the last update that you want to be included in the checkout. If you specify this date, cvs ignores any more recent updates. This option is often useful when somebody discovers a recently introduced bug in -CURRENT: you check out the modules as they were before the bug was introduced. You specify the date with the -D option, for example -D "10 December 1997". Page 285, after the second example. ___________________________________ Add the text: If you need to check out an older version, for example if there are problems with the most recent version of -CURRENT, you could enter: # cvs co -D "10 December 1997" src/sys This command checks out the kernel sources as of 10 December 1997. Page 17 Install ports when installing the system Page 294 ________ Add the following section: Problems executing Linux binaries _________________________________ One of the problems with the ELF format used by more recent Linux binaries is that they usually contain no information to identify them as Linux binaries. They might equally well be BSD/OS or UnixWare binaries. That's not really a problem at this point, since the only ELF format that FreeBSD 3.2 understands is Linux, but FreeBSD-CURRENT recognizes a native FreeBSD ELF format as well, and of course that's the default. If you want to run a Linux ELF binary on such a system, you must brand the executable using the program brandelf. For example, to brand the StarOffice program swriter3, you would enter: # brandelf -t linux /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/swriter3 Thanks to Dan Busarow for bringing this to my attention. Page 364, middle of page ________________________ Change the text from: The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each end of the link. They must be written as shown, though they may be in lower case. to The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each end of the link. They must be written as shown, though newer versions of ppp allow you to write them in lower case. Thanks to Mark S. Reichman for this correction. Page 368 ________ Replace the paragraph after the second example with: In FreeBSD version 3.0 and later, specify the options PPP_BSDCOMP and Page 18 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition PPP_DEFLATE to enable two kinds of compression. You'll also need to specify the corresponding option in Kernel PPP's configuration file. These options are not available in FreeBSD version 2. Thanks to Brian Somers for this information. Page 397 ________ In the section ``Nicknames'', the example should read: www IN CNAME freebie ftp IN CNAME presto In other words, there should be a space between CNAME and the system name. Page 422 ________ Replace the text above the example with: tcpdump is a program which monitors a network interface and displays selected information which passes through it. It uses the Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf), an optional component of the kernel. It is not included in the GENERIC kernel: see page 257 for information on how to configure it. If you don't configure the Berkeley Packet Filter, you will get a message like tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: device not configured If you forget to create the devices for bpf, you will get a message like: tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory Since tcpdump poses a potential security problem, you must be root in order to run it. The simplest way to run it is without any parameters. This will cause tcpdump to monitor and display all traffic on the first active network interface, normally Ethernet: Thanks to Christopher Raven for drawing this to my attention. Page 19 Install ports when installing the system Page 423 ________ The description at the top of the page incorrectly uses the term IP address instead of Ethernet address. In addition, a page number reference is incorrect. Replace the paragraph with: o Line 1 shows an ARP request: system presto is looking for the Ethernet address of wait. It would appear that wait is currently not responding, since there is no reply. o Line 2 is not an IP message at all. tcpdump shows the Ethernet addresses and the beginning of the packet. We don't consider this kind of request in this book. o Line 3 is a broadcast ntp message. We looked at ntp on page 160. o Line 4 is another attempt by presto to find the IP address of wait. o Line 5 is a broadcast message from bumble on the rwho port, giving information about its current load averages and how long it has been up. See the man page for rwho on page 1167 for more information. o Line 6 is from a TCP connection between port 6000 on freebie and port 1089 on presto. It is sending 384 bytes (with the sequence numbers 536925467 to 536925851; see page 305), and is acknowledging that the last byte it received from presto had the sequence number 325114346. The window size is 17280. o Line 7 is another ARP request. presto is looking for the Ethernet address of freebie. How can that happen? We've just seen that they have a TCP connection. In fact, ARP information expires after 20 minutes. It's quite possible that all connections between presto and freebie have been dormant for this period, so presto needs to find freebie's IP address again. o Line 8 is the ARP reply from freebie to presto giving its Ethernet address. o Line 9 shows a reply from presto on the connection to freebie that we saw on line 6. It acknowledges the data up to sequence number 536925851, but doesn't send any itself. o Line 10 shows another 448 bytes of data from freebie to presto, and acknowledging the same sequence number from presto as in line 6. Thanks to Sergei S. Laskavy for drawing this to my Page 20 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition attention. Page 450: anonymous ftp _______________________ Replace the paragraph starting with Create a user ftp: Create a user ftp, with the anonymous ftp directory as the home directory and the shell /dev/null. Using /dev/null as the shell makes it impossible to log in as user ftp, but does not interfere with the use of anonymous ftp. ftp can be a member of group bin, or you can create a new group ftp by adding the group to /etc/group. See page 138 for more details of adding users, and the man page on page 805 for adding groups. Thanks to Mark S. Reichman for drawing this to my attention. Page 466, before the ps example _______________________________ Add another bullet: o Finally, you may find it convenient to let some other system handle all your mail delivery for you: you just send anything you can't deliver locally to this other host, which sendmail calls a smart host. This is particularly convenient if you send your mail with UUCP. To tell sendmail to use a smart host (in our case, mail.example.net), find the following line in sendmail.cf: # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DS Change it to: # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DSmail.example.net Page 478, ``Running Apache'' ____________________________ The text describes the location of the server as /usr/local/www/server/httpd. This appears to depend on where you get the port from. Some people report the file being at the more likely location /usr/local/sbin/httpd (though note the Page 21 Install ports when installing the system directory sbin, not bin). Check both locations if you run into trouble. Thanks to Sue Blake for this information. Page 492 ________ Replace references to nmdb with nmbd. Page 493 ________ Replace the last paragraph on the page with: socket options is hardly mentioned in the documentation, but it's very important: many Microsoft implementations of TCP/IP are inefficient and establish a new TCP more often than necessary. Select the socket options TCP_NODELAY and IPTOS_LOWDELAY, which can speed up the response time of such applications by over 95%. Page 22 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 17: 3:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB6237B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:03:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3L03hM15376 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:03:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3L03hW15343; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:03:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.5.100] (may be forged)) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.3/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3L03M013752; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:03:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <018c01c0c9f6$a4f79280$6405a8c0@neland.dk> From: "Leif Neland" To: "Evren Yurtesen" , References: Subject: Re: <<< 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [217.21.68.1] Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:04:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f3L03hW15343 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evren Yurtesen" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 6:07 PM Subject: <<< 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [217.21.68.1] > can anybody explain what the hell is happening? > > bessel:/home2/240S99/eyurtese>nslookup 217.21.68.1 > Server: ns.turkuamk.fi > Address: 195.148.208.2 > > Name: finland.ispro.net.tr > Address: 217.21.68.1 > > bessel:/home2/240S99/eyurtese> > arnold/home # host 217.21.68.1 1.68.21.217.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer finland.ispro.net.tr arnold/home # host finland.ispro.net.tr finland.ispro.net.tr has address 212.174.120.1 Forward does not match reverse Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 17: 5: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nebula.anchoragerescue.org (cable-115-7-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.7.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E8B37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akbeech@anchoragerescue.org) Received: from galaxy.anchoragerescue.org (galaxy.anchoragerescue.org [24.237.7.95]) by nebula.anchoragerescue.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44A20E2; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:04:56 -0800 (AKDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Beech Rintoul To: David Banning , David Banning , Matthew Emmerton Subject: Re: make world error Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:04:56 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: David Banning , questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010420150921.A665@www3.pacific-pages.com> <007b01c0c9d1$ac104870$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <20010420172502.B44421@www3.pacific-pages.com> In-Reply-To: <20010420172502.B44421@www3.pacific-pages.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042016045601.04508@galaxy.anchoragerescue.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 20 April 2001 13:25, David Banning wrote: > > > *** Signal 11 > > > > This isn't a problem with the cvsup'd code or your build tools. This is > > a problem with bad hardware - usually memory. > > What's a good way of going about finding out? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message You just did. Make world is a great way to stress the system. I would suggest taking your ram out and having it tested. Another way is to pull one strip (or substitute one) and try another build. Good luck, Beech ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - IT Manager - Instructor - akbeech@anchoragerescue.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Anchorage Gospel Rescue Mission \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | P.O. Box 230510 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99523-0510 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 17: 7:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Michelle.esfm.ipn.mx (Michelle.esfm.ipn.mx [148.204.104.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496F737B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:07:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrspock@esfm.ipn.mx) Received: from localhost (mrspock@localhost) by Michelle.esfm.ipn.mx (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3KN7xZ69864 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:08:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mrspock@esfm.ipn.mx) X-Authentication-Warning: Michelle.esfm.ipn.mx: mrspock owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:07:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Eduardo Viruena Silva To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mini kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-709749482-987808079=:64409" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. 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In-Reply-To: <9B9CB6555E6BA049BC2B857E7711C24F0239A1@puke.reno.oemsupport.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Patrick, You might want to check www.rackmount.com. We use their rackmount servers running FreeBSD 4.2 in our colocation center. Bryan Taylor PNetwork On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Patrick Calkins wrote: > Have a quick (or not so quick) question: > > I am installing a datacenter with web servers, mail servers, database > servers and file servers. I don't want any MS products if I can help it ;o). > The question is which commercial vendors are best to use if going with a > FreeBSD OS? I tried to talk to Dell and Compaq about it, but they seem more > than happy to help me if I am going to use all MS stuff, but mention FreeBSD > and they are all clueless about it. They don't even seem to up on Linux > either (although they both claim to support it, and ship their servers with > it if you need it). I talked to BSDi about it as well, they (naturally) > support the xBSD but it seems that they want to sell you the same hardware > that I can go to my local computer store and buy myself. I want fast, > reliable, good equipment. With the norm for a datacenter - RAID 5, hot-swap, > clustering, etc. I wanted to stick with a one vender solution if I could > help it. Does anyone know what Yahoo runs for their hardware vendors? I > noticed on mail.yahoo.com they sport a Compaq logo, but I thought they used > FreeBSD for their OS - does this mean that Compaq *really* does support xBSD > if you give them enough $$$??? I expect the project to be around $250,000 so > money really isnt a concern. > > hehe > Thanks for the input! > Patrick > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 17:37:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (18.gibs5.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.184.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F46137B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Received: from shazam (shazam [192.168.5.3]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3L0Zcq08130; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:35:38 GMT (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:41:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Durham X-Sender: durham@shazam.int To: Brent Cc: Caleb Walker , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gre-tunneling help In-Reply-To: <002c01c0c996$710b0980$3ab4a8c0@kronos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Brent wrote: > OK..heres the whole deal... > I work for an ISP ...there are 2 offices ..both in different states....I > have a 70 node internel microsoft network that has a freebsd 4.1 box doing > NAT ..the other office has a PIC router at thier end...we want to > "GRE_TUNNEL" between the 2 locations over the internet. > Ive compiled the BSD box w/ NETGRAPH, IPTUNNEL , NETGRAPH_PPTPGRE .. > > will this be going over "TUNx" ?? in the howto i have ..it says to make > sure the kernel has "TUN" support....i go to /dev and tun0, tun1, tun2 > ...are alll there...althpought when i do "ifconfig -a " TUN isnt there... > im assuming i need tun ?? > anyway ...if anyone can point me in the correct direction...to a good HOWTO > or something.. > > TIA ..all help is way appreciated :-) > I have a different GRE requirement, as we have about 50 people on the road with laptops, but I'm doing GRE on 4.1. I am using mpd from the ports. It uses the netgraph interface and works very well connecting the GRE VPN stuff in Win95/98/2000 to our 4.1 server. I would imagine it will work with your router. The documentation is a little spotty, but the port maintainer gave me some good help, as I will if you want to pursue this. The netgraph device is more efficient than the tun device, as it is more closely coupled to kernel networking. You don't need to put netgraph in the kernel. It is loaded on demand as a kernel module. -Jim Durham > Brent > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Caleb Walker > To: Brent ; > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:32 AM > Subject: Re: gre-tunneling help > > > What are you trying to do? Are you trying to allowVPN through your network? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brent" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:34 PM > Subject: gre-tunneling help > > > > Im using a 4.1 FreeBSD box w/ NAT ..i need to gre-tunneling to work .the > > howto im reading says there has to be at least 1 "tun" interface in the > > down state....when i do a "ifconfig -a " tun isnt in there ...how do i > > get the tun interface to be in "ifconfig" ? > > ..when i look in > > /dev > > > > tun0 tun1 tun2 all are in there... > > > > so i dont think i have to do ./MAKEDEV.. > > how do i get it to show w/ ifconfig ?? did i miss something ?? > > TIA ........any help is really appreciated > > Brent > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 17:38:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3200D37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:38:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from localhost (freymann@localhost) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3L0cv092752 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:38:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:38:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerry Freymann To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to do so much with this FreeBSD box! I think it's pretty amazing and slightly frustrating at the same time. I'm running a dual pentium pro 200 motherboard. 128M of ram. etc. I have everything running lovely.. xwindows, gnome, sawfish, sound, cd-rom, etc. I'm pleased! My goal is to have my freebsd box out front... the firewall/nat/internet server.. Using this as my basis: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/pppoe.html I'm trying to get PPPoE to work. FreeBSD 4.3RC. (just cvsup'd yesterday!) Seems pretty easy if you read that page... So I add NETGRAPH to the kernel, make a new kernal, reboot... set up the ppp.conf file... but when I load ppp, the kernel panics! You can't even read what's on the screen, nothing is logged... So I'm looking at it, and "optionally" it says you can add options NETGRAPH_PPPOE so now i'm compiling a kernel with both options NETGRAPH options NETGRAPH_PPPOE I use sympatico (canada) high speed edition. We're given Dynamic IP #'s. The handbook instructions for making the FreeBSD box just do PPPoE look simple. I figure, hey, if I can get it to do that, then later I can add IPFW, NAT, etc. but I can't even get it to do PPPoE yet. Any suggestions? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gerry Freymann -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 17:43: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from istar.ca (d141-119-162.home.cgocable.net [24.141.119.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFED137B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:43:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) Received: (from genisis@localhost) by istar.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3L0kjX32278; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:46:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from genisis) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:46:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Dru To: green Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: again pppd :) In-Reply-To: <808536581.20010421022752@prokk.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, green wrote: > hi freebsd-questions ! > > hi ! > > i get these messages in /var/log/messages : > Apr 21 02:29:25 mega pppd[2888]: Protocol-Reject for unsupported protocol 0x41 > > what does this messages mean ? That your service provider is using a Cisco router perhaps? If I'm reading the protocol table correctly at: http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/default0301.htm PPP protocol 0x41 is Cisco Systems. I don't think you have to worry about the messages, though. HTH, Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 17:45:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (18.gibs5.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.184.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAEF37B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Received: from shazam (shazam [192.168.5.3]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3L0hnq08154; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:43:49 GMT (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:49:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Durham X-Sender: durham@shazam.int To: Shawn Ramsey Cc: Beech Rintoul , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: named dying In-Reply-To: <006901c0c9d0$930ff150$2248a93f@Shawn100> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > > > > On Friday 20 April 2001 11:00, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > > > Apr 20 11:54:31 lucas named[44634]: starting. named 8.2.3-T6B Mon Nov > 20 > > > 11:27 > > > Apr 20 11:54:31 lucas named[44634]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024) > > > Apr 20 11:54:32 lucas named[44635]: Ready to answer queries. > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me why this may be doing this? It is crashing every few > > > days... named is under very little load. > > > > > > sysctl -a |grep maxfiles : > > > > > > kern.maxfiles: 2048 > > > > > > > > > I thought the fdlimit was if maxfiles wasn't set high enough, but it is. > > > Any ideas? > > > > Upgrade to 8.2.3-REL its in the ports under /usr/ports/net/bind8. > > > > You may be getting hacked, causing named to crash. > > Ok, I just upgraded it.. Actually I had already compiled it, but hadn't > install it yet since it was still giving the fdlimit message. And BTW, the > person who asked what syslog shows when it crashes, it shows nothing. Since > the server has been up, these messages have shown up in dmesg : > > pid 141 (named), uid 0: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) > pid 25103 (named), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > pid 41257 (named), uid 53: exited on signal 11 > pid 11938 (named), uid 53: exited on signal 11 Be careful about one thing. If you compiled it from the ISC sources, it will install in /usr/sbin as a default. REMOVE THE OLD VERSION in /sbin. Otherwise, if you reboot, it will go back to the old version because of the named_enable scripts in rc.conf. I had the exact same symptoms as you and couldn't understand it because I was running 8.3-REL (I thought). That's when I discovered that a reboot had started the old version. I think it may be someone trying the Linux exploit and just managing to crash the name server, but their script bombs on FreeBSD. Just a guess.. -Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 17:52: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.knology.net (user-24-214-63-14.knology.net [24.214.63.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 003AC37B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:52:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n4cnw@knology.net) Received: (qmail 23231 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 00:52:00 -0000 Received: from user-24-214-19-33.knology.net (HELO n4cnw.dyndns.org) (24.214.19.33) by user-24-214-63-14.knology.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 00:52:00 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Mike Murphree To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Where to start bootparamd? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:52:01 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042019520100.03139@n4cnw.dyndns.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where's the normal location to start bootparamd? I haven't found it in any of the following: /etc/inetd.conf /etc/rc.conf /etc/defaults/rc.conf /etc/rc.network nor in the associated man pages. I'm trying to boot a VME board from my FreeBSD system... Thanks, Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 17:52:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin10.bigpond.com (juicer35.bigpond.com [139.134.6.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB98F37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:52:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.57]) by mailin10.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GC4AND00.6EX; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:57:13 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-142-50.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.142.50]) by mail2.bigpond.com (Claudes-Attentive-MailRouter V2.9c 3/5373032); 21 Apr 2001 10:52:31 Message-ID: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Gerry Freymann" , References: Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:52:02 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been trying to figure out PPPoE too .... trying both FreeBSD & OpenBSD & its starting to look like the native pppoe in OpenBSD might just be easier to configure .... I'm not certain whats up with netgraph but I think it may need a bit more work before its totally reliable. OpenBSD doesn't use it (possibly a security related issue) & the mailing list archives have a heap of postings about netgraph woes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Freymann" To: Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:38 AM Subject: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic > I'm trying to do so much with this FreeBSD box! I think it's pretty > amazing and slightly frustrating at the same time. > > I'm running a dual pentium pro 200 motherboard. 128M of ram. etc. > > I have everything running lovely.. xwindows, gnome, sawfish, sound, > cd-rom, etc. I'm pleased! > > My goal is to have my freebsd box out front... the firewall/nat/internet > server.. > > Using this as my basis: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/pppoe.html > > I'm trying to get PPPoE to work. FreeBSD 4.3RC. (just cvsup'd yesterday!) > > Seems pretty easy if you read that page... > > So I add NETGRAPH to the kernel, make a new kernal, reboot... > > set up the ppp.conf file... > > but when I load ppp, the kernel panics! You can't even read what's on the > screen, nothing is logged... > > So I'm looking at it, and "optionally" it says you can add > options NETGRAPH_PPPOE > > so now i'm compiling a kernel with both > > options NETGRAPH > options NETGRAPH_PPPOE > > I use sympatico (canada) high speed edition. We're given Dynamic IP #'s. > > The handbook instructions for making the FreeBSD box just do PPPoE look > simple. > > I figure, hey, if I can get it to do that, then later I can add IPFW, NAT, > etc. but I can't even get it to do PPPoE yet. > > Any suggestions? > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Gerry Freymann > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 19:17:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C69237B43E for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:17:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from localhost (freymann@localhost) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3L2FXp04451; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:15:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:15:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerry Freymann To: Matthew Emmerton Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic In-Reply-To: <011c01c0ca06$b3be1f90$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > An excellent choice. I did that with HSE last year. So it *is* possible! lol. I want that... too! > This is obviously not a good thing :) However, help is not too far away. Kewl, much appreciated. > What is your 'set device' line in ppp.conf? default: set device PPPoE:vr1 set mru 1492 set mtu 1492 set authname 12345669 set authkey abcdefg set log Phase tun command set dial set login set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 add default HISADDR nat enable yes papchap: set authname 12345669 set authkey abcdefg > For the network card that > you're using for HSE, are you doing any ifconfig stuff for it network_interfaces="vr0 vr1 lo0" ifconfig_vr0="inet 192.168.0.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 mtu 1450" And I rem'd out the "default gateway" line in rc.conf Here's a recent ifconfig -a: vr0: flags=8843 mtu 1450 inet 192.168.0.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet6 fe80::250:baff:fede:f1fc%vr0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:50:ba:de:f1:fc media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none vr1: flags=8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:80:c8:f9:c5:50 media: autoselect (none) status: no carrier supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif1: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif2: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif3: flags=8010 mtu 1280 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 faith0: flags=8000 mtu 1500 > If you're feeling adventurous, I can guide your through the fun task of > performing a panic dump and a kernel debug, if you wish. I want this thing to work, so any help you feel like offering, I'm game! Thanks. Don't worry about the various addresses... freymann@eagle.ca scaryg@sputnik.org freymann@scaryg.shackent.nu They are all me. -gf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 19:20:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F146137B440 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:20:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stealth215@mediaone.net) Received: from precious (h0000c0f0bdd0.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.160.185]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3L2KR820073 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:20:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "David Loszewski" To: Subject: releases Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:24:20 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What is the recommended version to download? 4.3 or 4.2? thx, Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 20: 4:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10A737B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:04:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dleimbac@earthlink.net) Received: from 1Cust228.tnt1.starkville.ms.da.uu.net (1Cust228.tnt1.starkville.ms.da.uu.net [63.30.107.228]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03777; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104210304.UAA03777@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:05:56 CDT From: Dave Leimbach To: "Otter" , "'Tom Parquette'" , Subject: RE: Support for IDE CD writers? Reply-To: dleimbac@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Spruce 0.6.5 for X11 w/smtpio 0.7.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there an equivalent to the readcd tool from the cdrecord package that will read a byte for byte image from the cd to a file? I tried dd if=/dev/acd0a of=image.iso with no success. Are there some good parameters to make this work? Dave On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Otter wrote: > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:34:37 -0400 > To: "'Tom Parquette'" , > > From: "Otter" > Subject: RE: Support for IDE CD writers? > > So deal with the wife... ONCE. Kick in the extra cash for SCSI so you > won't hafta worry about fighting with the CD-R/RW on a regular basis. > -Otter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Tom > Parquette > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 11:11 AM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Support for IDE CD writers? > > > > > > Please CC me on any replies. TIA. > > > > I would like to install a CD burner in my FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE > machine. > > I have looked at the supported hardware list and it talks about > > SCSI-attached CD burners being supported. > > > > The price of the SCSI burner could be a hangup with the wife. > > > > Does FreeBSD support IDE-attached CD burners? > > As a point of reference, I'm looking at the HP 8250i or 9150i. > > Cheers... > > -- > > Try not. Do or do not. There is no try. -- Yoda > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 20: 7: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A882937B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:06:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@markemmanuel.org) Received: from [147.126.50.163] (unknown [147.126.50.163]) by smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A012A64D2 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:06:57 -0500 (CDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:08:45 +0800 Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD From: markemmanuel To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010420202209.35326.qmail@web13606.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm a newbie to this list and FreBSD. I'm also new to the whole linux thing too but it seems like that the BSD folks are more helpful and easy going. Some lists in the Linux world would have told all of you to knock it out and stay on topic. :) markemmanuel Quoted from the Book of Bzdik BSD Ch 6:7-13 on 4/21/01 4:22 AM: > hey, quite a few took it seriously. And I was told that BSD people > have better sense of humour than Linuxenians, Linuxists and other > Linuxoids. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 20: 7:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f24.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AB137B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:07:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicholas_valiarde@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:07:16 -0700 Received: from 64.229.24.27 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:07:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.229.24.27] From: "Jeremy Faulkner" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:07:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2001 03:07:16.0845 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BBCB9D0:01C0CA10] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 20: 7:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cybersurf.net (smtp1.cybersurf.net [209.197.145.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5931137B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:07:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 01031149@3web.net) Received: from 3web.net ([209.197.133.45]) by smtp1.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GC4GOG00.L2V for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:07:28 -0600 Received: by rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (EzMTS MTSAgent 1.22b Service) ; Fri, 20 Apr 01 21:06:35 -0600 for Received: from 3web.net (10.0.0.2) by rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (EzMTS MTSSmtp 1.23f Service) ; Fri, 20 Apr 01 17:26:07 -0600 for Received: by mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:25:40 -0600 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:25:38 -0600 From: Duke Normandin <01031149@3web.net> To: Alex Charalabidis Cc: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010420172538.A117031@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Alex Charalabidis , Freebsd Questions References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from "Alex Charalabidis" on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 03:41:24PM X-Envelope-Receiver: , Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 03:41:24PM -0500, Alex Charalabidis wrote: > > Could we please get this thread off freebsd-questions? Thanks. Amen... this one has been a long sucker! But NOT before someone writes an "executive" summary of the thread, outlining the "bottom-line" conclusions regarding the AMD CPUs. ;^) An "executive" summary --- guys -- NOT a bloody book! Who will be the brave volunteer? I've got 100 cyber$ that says Jeremiah will belly-up!!! S.O.B. -- this could turn into yet another bullshit session. Just kidding, guys.... ;) -- -duke Calgary, Alberta, Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 20:11:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.XtremeDev.com (xtremedev.com [216.241.38.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E4E37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@XtremeDev.com) Received: by mail.XtremeDev.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 08D0713632; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:11:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.XtremeDev.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCB0DA67; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:11:51 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:11:50 -0600 (MDT) From: FreeBSD To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Apache, Vhost, and Jail In-Reply-To: <20010420172402.F30960@everest.wananchi.com> Message-ID: <20010420211051.P57133-100000@Amber.XtremeDev.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > a bit out of topic but may I ask how you start your jail after a reboot of > the host system. I used a jail.sh script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d See: http://www.BSDpro.com/info.php?cat=security&fileid=00014 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 20:18:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B9437B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:18:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net) Received: from mark9.vladsempire.net (hutch-779.hutchtel.net [206.10.71.79]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA25479; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:18:03 -0500 (CDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Josh Paetzel To: "David Loszewski" , Subject: Re: releases Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:18:54 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042022185400.00954@mark9.vladsempire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 20 April 2001 21:24, David Loszewski wrote: > What is the recommended version to download? 4.3 or 4.2? > > > thx, > Dave > Get 4.3 Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 20:33:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nebula.anchoragerescue.org (cable-115-7-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.7.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA6737B43E for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:33:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akbeech@anchoragerescue.org) Received: from galaxy.anchoragerescue.org (galaxy.anchoragerescue.org [24.237.7.95]) by nebula.anchoragerescue.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2314DE2; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:33:30 -0800 (AKDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Beech Rintoul To: Dave Leimbach , "Otter" , "'Tom Parquette'" , Subject: Re: Support for IDE CD writers? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:33:29 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <200104210304.UAA03777@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <200104210304.UAA03777@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042019332900.28180@galaxy.anchoragerescue.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 20 April 2001 19:05, Dave Leimbach wrote: > Is there an equivalent to the readcd tool from the cdrecord package that > will read a byte for byte image from the cd to a file? > > I tried dd if=/dev/acd0a of=image.iso > with no success. > > Are there some good parameters to make this work? > > Dave > > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Otter wrote: > > So deal with the wife... ONCE. Kick in the extra cash for SCSI so you > > won't hafta worry about fighting with the CD-R/RW on a regular basis. > > -Otter > > > > > Subject: Support for IDE CD writers? > > > > > > > > > Please CC me on any replies. TIA. > > > > > > I would like to install a CD burner in my FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE > > > > machine. > > > > > I have looked at the supported hardware list and it talks about > > > SCSI-attached CD burners being supported. > > > > > > The price of the SCSI burner could be a hangup with the wife. > > > > > > Does FreeBSD support IDE-attached CD burners? > > > As a point of reference, I'm looking at the HP 8250i or 9150i. > > > Cheers... > > > -- > > > Try not. Do or do not. There is no try. -- Yoda Try this: dd bs=2048 if=/dev/acd0c of=image.iso also see: man mkisofs and man burncd Works for me, Beech ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - IT Manager - Instructor - akbeech@anchoragerescue.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Anchorage Gospel Rescue Mission \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | P.O. Box 230510 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99523-0510 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 20:42:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582AD37B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:42:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@markemmanuel.org) Received: from [147.126.50.163] (unknown [147.126.50.163]) by smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3FE65E4 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:42:42 -0500 (CDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:44:30 +0800 Subject: Gaming on FreeBSD... From: markemmanuel To: "Questions freebsd.org" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm slowly pulling myself off of Microsoft's control over my computing needs. I'm really interested in the state of gaming on FreeBSD. I'm aware of binary compatibility on for Linux but how much is the performance affected FreeBSD? I'm interested in games like SimCity 3000, Myth ii, and Unreal Tournament. How does it stack up? Thanks. markemmanuel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 21: 0:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709C437B43F for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3L408k48344; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:00:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" , "Bzdik BSD" , "Charles Burns" , , Cc: , , , Subject: RE: the AMD factor in FreeBSD Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:00:08 -0700 Message-ID: <000101c0ca17$8e4acfe0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <003b01c0c8e4$498f9860$015778d8@sherline.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How about making a nice core/pipeline AND ramping up the clock to insane speeds!! Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jeremiah Gowdy >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:21 AM >To: Bzdik BSD; Charles Burns; vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET; >lplist@closedsrc.org >Cc: kris@obsecurity.org; mwlist@lanfear.com; freebsd@sysmach.com; >questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD > > >> G4 stil runs without heatsink - doesn't qualify as a real CPU to me. >> end :)) > >Hell, seems like a 'realer' CPU to me ! Heatsinks are when we ran out of >ideas for making a nice core/pipeline design, so we had to >increase speed by >ramping up the clock to insane speeds. > >I'm no Mac lover, but you have to admire the design of the Motorola G4 > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 21: 3:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A79337B43F for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:03:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3L43Yk48355; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:03:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mikhail Kruk" , Subject: RE: share HP Printer with windows machine Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:03:34 -0700 Message-ID: <000201c0ca18$09201fe0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, this is correct - the FreeBSD system will simply pass jobs through unchanged from the Windows system. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mikhail Kruk >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 9:00 AM >To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: share HP Printer with windows machine > > >Hi, >I have an HP Desket (932) which is not fully supported on Unix. I havn't >tried it yet, but from what I read I get that I will be able to print on >it, but not with the best quality (no photo etc). >So now I'm thinking about sharing this printer with a Win95 machine >through Samba. I *assume* that if I put all the HP windows drivers on that >Win95 box it will be able to print high quality through the FreeBSD Samba >server. Is this correct? Will the printjob prepared by the Windows drivers >come through Samba and lpd unchanged and make this printer happy? > >TIA >mk > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 21:23: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC99D37B43E; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:22:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3L4Mtk48414; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Linh Pham" , "Patrick Calkins" Cc: "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:22:54 -0700 Message-ID: <001001c0ca1a$bca711c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This isn't true for Compaq - they sell preloaded Linux systems. Please check the following URL: http://www.compaq.com/products/workstations/software-platform/osmatrix.html They ALSO have at least one Intel-based system running FreeBSD in their testdrive center (although they do NOT sell preloaded FreeBSD systems) There is also the ida driver which supports the Compaq SmartRaid controllers. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Linh Pham >VA Linux and Penguin Computing servers are pretty good, but don't expect >to have FreeBSD installed on there by default. Compaq, Dell and the >other large companies don't (or at times, don't want to support) >FreeBSD or any non Microsoft or Linux operating system. If they support >Linux, it's either available on a limited configuration basis or on a >not-pre-installed basis. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 21:28: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFE637B440; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:27:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id AE79355407; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE7C51610; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:22:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Patrick Calkins , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <001001c0ca1a$bca711c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-04-20, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: # This isn't true for Compaq - they sell preloaded Linux systems. # Please check the following URL: # # http://www.compaq.com/products/workstations/software-platform/osmatrix.html What I meant is that not all of the Windows-based solutions are available for the servers that come with Linux pre-loaded. This is changing, some quicker than others... but it's not easy to get a quad-processor server with Linux pre-loaded... from Compaq anyways :) # They ALSO have at least one Intel-based system running FreeBSD # in their testdrive center (although they do NOT sell preloaded # FreeBSD systems) Unfortunately... nor do they have any Alpha based workstations pre-loaded with FreeBSD like one of their Alpha test-drive servers :( # There is also the ida driver which supports the Compaq SmartRaid # controllers. Do you know which versions of the SmartRAID controller is supported. I do have a fairly old Compaq server running FreeBSD, but I would like to get it on a DL380 or something as a hefty mail/DNS server for work. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 21:32:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from asmodean.nks.net (asmodean.nks.net [216.139.201.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B1737B43F for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:32:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joeo@cracktown.com) Received: from localhost (joeo@localhost) by asmodean.nks.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23582; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:31:33 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:31:33 -0400 (EDT) From: X-Sender: To: markemmanuel Cc: "Questions freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Gaming on FreeBSD... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The linux emulation layer isn't really an emualtor in the *BSD's. They are a minimal set of shims that allow syscalls made by a running linux binary to work. They are an alternate set of syscalls, which are wrappers arround the native freebsd ones. When a linux binary is executed the binary image "activator" recognizes it as a linux binary and sets up the process table/syscall table entries for this new process telling the kernel that for this process these shims are the entry points for any syscalls that happen, instead of the native bsd ones. There is really no overhead for using these shims. The main difference in gaming on a freebsd box instead of a linux box is that their are some differences in the way the schedulers on FreeBSD and Linux boxes behave, especially for multithreaded applications. Myth2 runs, as does Unreal Tournament and Quake3. The latter two may require a bit of work to get a 3d accelerator card running. On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, markemmanuel wrote: > I'm slowly pulling myself off of Microsoft's control over my computing > needs. I'm really interested in the state of gaming on FreeBSD. I'm aware > of binary compatibility on for Linux but how much is the performance > affected FreeBSD? I'm interested in games like SimCity 3000, Myth ii, and > Unreal Tournament. How does it stack up? Thanks. > > markemmanuel > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 21:42:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mp200-2.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mp200-2.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473F637B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:42:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from house@lvcm.com) Received: from neoone (cm082.44.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.44.82]) by 100m.mp200-2.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABF29585; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <05fb01c0ca1d$23d6b5b0$1616160a@neoone> From: "JannaDanRich" To: Subject: Please Help .. moron at wheel .. oops no, don't even have that acct Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:39:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_05F8_01C0C9E2.7314AAA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_05F8_01C0C9E2.7314AAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok, only one user configured, changing shell and I didn't double check my typing .. I have no shell for my root user now.. how do I get in to effect changes to passwd? =20 ------=_NextPart_000_05F8_01C0C9E2.7314AAA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_05F8_01C0C9E2.7314AAA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 21:47:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EAD37B424; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:47:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3L4lMk48506; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:47:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Linh Pham" Cc: "Patrick Calkins" , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:47:22 -0700 Message-ID: <005101c0ca1e$27416280$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We have found that all of the _pci_ versions are supported (Compaq decided to use the same register interface to make it easier to write drivers) Unfortunately, EISA raid controllers are a crapshoot - some work, some don't. I'd very much like to see more results of testing of that. Fortunately, used Compaq pci RAID controllers are plentiful on Ebay (the fools that buy used systems and part them out somehow think that the RAID card is this supervaluable card and so they are pretty cheap too) Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Linh Pham >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:22 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Patrick Calkins; Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail); Freebsd-Questions >(E-mail) >Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? > > >On 2001-04-20, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: > ># This isn't true for Compaq - they sell preloaded Linux systems. ># Please check the following URL: ># ># >http://www.compaq.com/products/workstations/software-platform/osmatrix.html > >What I meant is that not all of the Windows-based solutions are >available for the servers that come with Linux pre-loaded. This is >changing, some quicker than others... but it's not easy to get a >quad-processor server with Linux pre-loaded... from Compaq anyways :) > ># They ALSO have at least one Intel-based system running FreeBSD ># in their testdrive center (although they do NOT sell preloaded ># FreeBSD systems) > >Unfortunately... nor do they have any Alpha based workstations >pre-loaded with FreeBSD like one of their Alpha test-drive servers :( > ># There is also the ida driver which supports the Compaq SmartRaid ># controllers. > >Do you know which versions of the SmartRAID controller is supported. I >do have a fairly old Compaq server running FreeBSD, but I would like to >get it on a DL380 or something as a hefty mail/DNS server for work. > >-- >Linh Pham >[lplist@closedsrc.org] > >// 404b - Brain not found > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 21:52:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mp200-2.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mp200-2.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640F937B423; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:52:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from house@lvcm.com) Received: from neoone (cm082.44.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.44.82]) by 100m.mp200-2.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABF29843; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <060601c0ca1e$9454f800$1616160a@neoone> From: "JannaDanRich" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Linh Pham" Cc: "Patrick Calkins" , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" References: <005101c0ca1e$27416280$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:50:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG have read a lot of good things about vinum, and if you aren't really needing RAID V .. it is much much faster and, well, free ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Linh Pham" Cc: "Patrick Calkins" ; "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" ; "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:47 PM Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? > We have found that all of the _pci_ versions are supported > (Compaq decided to use the same register interface to make it > easier to write drivers) Unfortunately, EISA raid controllers > are a crapshoot - some work, some don't. I'd very much like to > see more results of testing of that. Fortunately, used > Compaq pci RAID controllers are plentiful on Ebay (the > fools that buy used systems and part them out somehow > think that the RAID card is this supervaluable card and so > they are pretty cheap too) > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Linh Pham > >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:22 PM > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >Cc: Patrick Calkins; Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail); Freebsd-Questions > >(E-mail) > >Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? > > > > > >On 2001-04-20, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: > > > ># This isn't true for Compaq - they sell preloaded Linux systems. > ># Please check the following URL: > ># > ># > >http://www.compaq.com/products/workstations/software-platform/osmatri x.html > > > >What I meant is that not all of the Windows-based solutions are > >available for the servers that come with Linux pre-loaded. This is > >changing, some quicker than others... but it's not easy to get a > >quad-processor server with Linux pre-loaded... from Compaq anyways :) > > > ># They ALSO have at least one Intel-based system running FreeBSD > ># in their testdrive center (although they do NOT sell preloaded > ># FreeBSD systems) > > > >Unfortunately... nor do they have any Alpha based workstations > >pre-loaded with FreeBSD like one of their Alpha test-drive servers :( > > > ># There is also the ida driver which supports the Compaq SmartRaid > ># controllers. > > > >Do you know which versions of the SmartRAID controller is supported. I > >do have a fairly old Compaq server running FreeBSD, but I would like to > >get it on a DL380 or something as a hefty mail/DNS server for work. > > > >-- > >Linh Pham > >[lplist@closedsrc.org] > > > >// 404b - Brain not found > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 21:53: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFE337B43F for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:53:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3L4qak48532; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:52:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Dru" , "green" Cc: Subject: RE: again pppd :) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:52:36 -0700 Message-ID: <005301c0ca1e$e2a57de0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is most likely Cisco Discovery Protocol. Tell your provider to put "no cdp enable" in the interface or subinterface description for your connection and the messages will go away. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dru >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 5:47 PM >To: green >Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: again pppd :) > > > > >On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, green wrote: > >> hi freebsd-questions ! >> >> hi ! >> >> i get these messages in /var/log/messages : >> Apr 21 02:29:25 mega pppd[2888]: Protocol-Reject for >unsupported protocol 0x41 >> >> what does this messages mean ? > > >That your service provider is using a Cisco router perhaps? If I'm >reading the protocol table correctly at: > >http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/default0301.htm > >PPP protocol 0x41 is Cisco Systems. I don't think you have to worry about >the messages, though. > >HTH, > >Dru > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 22: 3:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AAF437B424 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:03:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@tumbolia.com) Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57BC7D72; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:03:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:03:29 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt X-Sender: dscheidt@shell-3.enteract.com To: JannaDanRich Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please Help .. moron at wheel .. oops no, don't even have that acct In-Reply-To: <05fb01c0ca1d$23d6b5b0$1616160a@neoone> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, JannaDanRich wrote: :ok, only one user configured, changing shell :and I didn't double check my typing .. I have no :shell for my root user now.. how do I get in to effect :changes to passwd? CTRL-ALT-DELETE should reboot the machine cleanly. When you get the "Booting kernel in 10 seconds, press any key..." prompt, press a key. Type boot -s, which will boot you single user mode. It will prompt you for a shell, press return. Do this: # fsck # mount -a # vipw (and fix your shell problem. ) # exit (and the machine will boot multi-user David -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 22: 9:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nameserver.austclear.com.au (nameserver.austclear.com.au [192.83.119.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9597137B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:09:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahl@austclear.com.au) Received: from tungsten.austclear.com.au (tungsten.austclear.com.au [192.168.70.1]) by nameserver.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA68855; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:09:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from tungsten (tungsten [192.168.70.1]) by tungsten.austclear.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21077; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:09:10 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200104210509.PAA21077@tungsten.austclear.com.au> To: "default013" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: re-compiling sendmail In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:15:25 EST." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <21074.987829749.1@tungsten> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:09:10 +1000 From: Tony Landells Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yes, there is another makefile in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail, however, if > you use this, you will find that it builds some kind of sendmail includes in > that directory ... and not full sendmail... I wish that were the answer > though... > If theres something I missed, I'd love for it to be pointed out... > Theres also another makefile in /usr/src/share/sendmail (if i remember right > cause my server is down right now) ... not sure what that one does, but I > tried that one too, and I think it just re-created /usr/share/sendmail/cf > ... where you can make sendmail.cf files... The software builds under /usr/obj, so if you run make in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail you should finish up with a sendmail executable in the directory /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail. But I think you should also be able to do "make install" in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail to install the new executable from /usr/obj/... in /usr/sbin. Hopefully that's the last piece of the puzzle :-) Cheers, Tony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 22:12: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8C637B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:12:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from house@lvcm.com) Received: from neoone (cm082.44.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.44.82]) by 100m.mp200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABP82933; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <062801c0ca21$4fb99db0$1616160a@neoone> From: "JannaDanRich" To: "David Scheidt" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Please Help .. moron at wheel .. Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:09:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank You .. thank you .. and thank you ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Scheidt" To: "JannaDanRich" Cc: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: Re: Please Help .. moron at wheel .. oops no, don't even have that acct > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, JannaDanRich wrote: > > :ok, only one user configured, changing shell > :and I didn't double check my typing .. I have no > :shell for my root user now.. how do I get in to effect > :changes to passwd? > > CTRL-ALT-DELETE should reboot the machine cleanly. When you get the > "Booting kernel in 10 seconds, press any key..." prompt, press a key. > Type boot -s, which will boot you single user mode. It will prompt you for > a shell, press return. Do this: > > # fsck > # mount -a > # vipw (and fix your shell problem. ) > # exit (and the machine will boot multi-user > > > David > > -- > dscheidt@tumbolia.com > Bipedalism is only a fad. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 22:18: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429BE37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:18:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 38EBF66CE7; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:18:00 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Doug Young Cc: Gerry Freymann , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Message-ID: <20010420221800.A7521@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle>; from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 10:52:02AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 10:52:02AM +1000, Doug Young wrote: > I've been trying to figure out PPPoE too .... trying both FreeBSD & OpenBSD > & its starting to look like the native pppoe in OpenBSD might just be easier > to configure .... I'm not certain whats up with netgraph but I think it may > need a bit more work before its totally reliable. That sounds like FUD to me; I've never had Netgraph problems except for: * when I was using it as a KLD, and I forgot to rebuild the module when I updated my kernel. * when it was broken briefly in -current due to SMPng locking changes If you have problems with it, you should be talking to the developers. I'm using PPPoE right now, and all it took to configure was to kldload the relevant modules or add them to my kernel configuration (and set up the PPP information per the documentation). > OpenBSD doesn't use it (possibly a security related issue) I doubt it; probably just because no-one has yet ported NetGraph to OpenBSD. > the mailing list archives have a heap of postings about netgraph woes It's a very flexible system, therefore complicated. But not difficult to set up for PPPoE if you follow the directions. Kris --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64RgIWry0BWjoQKURAmEWAJ4rM2jFul9TcK41OG0AtWhqVwwx4gCgkF9M hX10mlNy+TCOk+7sDa7jsFY= =YC6y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 22:19: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EA637B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:19:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 47B4866B1C; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:19:01 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gerry Freymann Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Message-ID: <20010420221901.B7521@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jho1yZJdad60DJr+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from freymann@eagle.ca on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 08:38:57PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --jho1yZJdad60DJr+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 08:38:57PM -0400, Gerry Freymann wrote: > So I add NETGRAPH to the kernel, make a new kernal, reboot...=20 >=20 > set up the ppp.conf file... >=20 > but when I load ppp, the kernel panics! You can't even read what's on the > screen, nothing is logged...=20 >=20 > So I'm looking at it, and "optionally" it says you can add > options NETGRAPH_PPPOE If you don't have it statically compiled in, it tries to kldload the module. If you have an out of date module (i.e. not built from the same kernel sources), it can panic your machine. Kris --jho1yZJdad60DJr+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64RhEWry0BWjoQKURAl4kAJ9iE0AkYTWsPY/A6Qn7Lko9z3XYNwCg7eDE e+D9faB9QrxZ6GWyoUjVp6g= =H2DU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jho1yZJdad60DJr+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 22:20:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nova.sparklist.com (nova.sparklist.com [207.250.144.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C68D437B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sparklist-admin@nova.sparklist.com) Message-Id: X-sparklist-type: unsubscribed From: "SparkLIST.com" Reply-To: "SparkLIST.com" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your unsubscribe request Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:22:12 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As you requested, you have been unsubscribed from 'fwd-newswire'. --- Return-Path: Received: from nova.sparklist.com ([207.250.144.28]) by nova.sparklist.com with SMTP (SparkLIST.com WIN32 version 4.1); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:22:12 -0500 From: questions@freebsd.org (questions) To: fwd-newswire-request Subject: # Mail sent to leave-fwd-newswire was converted to these commands: unsubscribe end # This is the text of the message that triggered the action: Return-Path: Received: from nova.sparklist.com ([207.250.144.28]) by nova.sparklist.com with SMTP (SparkLIST.com WIN32 version 4.1); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:22:12 -0500 From: questions@freebsd.org (questions) To: leave-fwd-newswire@nova.sparklist.com Subject: your subscription request IP:209.96.179.83 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 22:20:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nova.sparklist.com (nova.sparklist.com [207.250.144.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FFF137B42C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:20:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sparklist-admin@nova.sparklist.com) Message-Id: X-sparklist-type: unsubscribed From: "SparkLIST.com" Reply-To: "SparkLIST.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your unsubscribe request Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:22:35 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As you requested, you have been unsubscribed from 'fwd-newswire'. --- Return-Path: Received: from nova.sparklist.com ([207.250.144.28]) by nova.sparklist.com with SMTP (SparkLIST.com WIN32 version 4.1); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:22:35 -0500 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (questions) To: fwd-newswire-request Subject: # Mail sent to leave-fwd-newswire was converted to these commands: unsubscribe end # This is the text of the message that triggered the action: Return-Path: Received: from nova.sparklist.com ([207.250.144.28]) by nova.sparklist.com with SMTP (SparkLIST.com WIN32 version 4.1); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:22:35 -0500 From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (questions) To: leave-fwd-newswire@nova.sparklist.com Subject: your subscription request IP:209.96.179.83 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 22:21: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC7E37B423; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3L5Knk48681; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "JannaDanRich" , "Linh Pham" Cc: "Patrick Calkins" , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:20:49 -0700 Message-ID: <006701c0ca22$d3ddc840$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <060601c0ca1e$9454f800$1616160a@neoone> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think you would find in a benchmark test that performance in disk systems is due to the hardware configuration, not the software. You could build a system where either approaches outperformed The other simply based on the hardware configuration. What hardware RAID V gives you is the ability to walk up to a running server, pull out a failed drive, replace it with a new one, and walk off without shutting down the server. Your probably not going to be able to do that with vinum. If you don't need that capability, then your correct in asking the question "why pay for it" Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of JannaDanRich >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:50 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Linh Pham >Cc: Patrick Calkins; Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail); Freebsd-Questions >(E-mail) >Subject: Re: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? > > >have read a lot of good things about vinum, and if you >aren't really needing RAID V .. it is much much faster > >and, well, free > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" >To: "Linh Pham" >Cc: "Patrick Calkins" ; "Freebsd-Hardware >(E-mail)" ; "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" > >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:47 PM >Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? > > >> We have found that all of the _pci_ versions are supported >> (Compaq decided to use the same register interface to make it >> easier to write drivers) Unfortunately, EISA raid controllers >> are a crapshoot - some work, some don't. I'd very much like to >> see more results of testing of that. Fortunately, used >> Compaq pci RAID controllers are plentiful on Ebay (the >> fools that buy used systems and part them out somehow >> think that the RAID card is this supervaluable card and so >> they are pretty cheap too) >> >> Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com >> Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide >> Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Linh Pham >> >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:22 PM >> >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> >Cc: Patrick Calkins; Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail); Freebsd-Questions >> >(E-mail) >> >Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? >> > >> > >> >On 2001-04-20, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: >> > >> ># This isn't true for Compaq - they sell preloaded Linux systems. >> ># Please check the following URL: >> ># >> ># >> >>http://www.compaq.com/products/workstations/software-platform/osmatri >x.html >> > >> >What I meant is that not all of the Windows-based solutions are >> >available for the servers that come with Linux pre-loaded. This is >> >changing, some quicker than others... but it's not easy to get a >> >quad-processor server with Linux pre-loaded... from Compaq anyways >:) >> > >> ># They ALSO have at least one Intel-based system running FreeBSD >> ># in their testdrive center (although they do NOT sell preloaded >> ># FreeBSD systems) >> > >> >Unfortunately... nor do they have any Alpha based workstations >> >pre-loaded with FreeBSD like one of their Alpha test-drive servers >:( >> > >> ># There is also the ida driver which supports the Compaq SmartRaid >> ># controllers. >> > >> >Do you know which versions of the SmartRAID controller is >supported. I >> >do have a fairly old Compaq server running FreeBSD, but I would >like to >> >get it on a DL380 or something as a hefty mail/DNS server for work. >> > >> >-- >> >Linh Pham >> >[lplist@closedsrc.org] >> > >> >// 404b - Brain not found >> > >> > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 22:36:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin10.bigpond.com (juicer35.bigpond.com [139.134.6.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B30637B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:36:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.54]) by mailin10.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GC4NSU00.26F; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:41:18 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-142-50.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.142.50]) by mail6.bigpond.com (Claudes-Macro-Economic-MailRouter V2.9c 11/5386728); 21 Apr 2001 15:36:33 Message-ID: <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "Gerry Freymann" , References: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle> <20010420221800.A7521@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:36:07 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As with virtually all documentation, the writers fail to provide ALL the information needed by someone unfamiliar with the subject. In this case there is insufficient said about any config files except ppp.conf. eg what happens with r.conf, what IP addresses are to be assigned to the two NICs, what goes in resolv.conf / ppp.linkup / etc ?? According to the official docs, all that needs to be added to the kernel config file is "options NETGRAPH" ... however that is a sure way to get error messages on boot "module_register: module netgraph already exists! linker_file_sysinit "netgraph.ko" failed to register! 17" I found what looks like the solution to these messages at freebsddiary.org "The above netgraph message can be eliminated by adding the following to your kernel file, eliminating the need to load the netgraph ether module, which you will need for pppoe to function anyway. NETGRAPH_ETHER In other words, these are the options that you will need to obviate the need to load any modules. options NETGRAPH options NETGRAPH_ETHER options NETGRAPH_PPPOE options NETGRAPH_SOCKET That sounds like FUD to me; I've never had Netgraph problems except for: * when I was using it as a KLD, and I forgot to rebuild the module when I updated my kernel. * when it was broken briefly in -current due to SMPng locking changes If you have problems with it, you should be talking to the developers. I'm using PPPoE right now, and all it took to configure was to kldload the relevant modules or add them to my kernel configuration (and set up the PPP information per the documentation). > OpenBSD doesn't use it (possibly a security related issue) I doubt it; probably just because no-one has yet ported NetGraph to OpenBSD. Whilst OpenBSD mailing list archives are a dogs breakfast, I stumbled across a posting from Brian Somers that suggested the OpenBSD developers didn't want netgraph. There wasn't any further explanation but it sorta sounded like it was a security issue. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 22:41:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 151CE37B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:41:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 8646 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 05:41:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpu563) (195.229.53.55) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 05:41:13 -0000 Message-ID: <010601c0ca25$879c44e0$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> From: "dotslash" To: , "Greg Lehey" References: <20010421000204.7BB2E37B43E@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: "The Complete FreeBSD", third edition: errata and addenda Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:08:40 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i keep seeing this book as one of the recommended books aside from the handbook but there are no sample chapters nor table of contents from which one can have an idea what is covered. is this book only basic fbsd or will it be usable for intermediate fbsd users? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lehey" To: Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 4:02 AM Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD", third edition: errata and addenda > > > > > > > > > Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition > > > > > Last revision: 2 August 1999 > > The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page > or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge > computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, > ``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut Creek, is no exception. In- > evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. > > The following is a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos. They > relate to the third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999. You'll find this > information on page iv (the page before the beginning of the Table of > Contents). See the end of this document for instructions on how to find the > errata for an older version. > > You can get the current document in four forms: > > o A PostScript version, suitable for printing out, at > ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ps. See page 302 of the third edition > to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all possible, please take > this document: it's closest to the original text. > > Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible to > reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. > > o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.txt. When > viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and > underlining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. > > o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ascii. This > version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Only > take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure > that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. > > o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-3.html. > > All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing source text of the > book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well. If you find a > > Page 1 > > > > > > > The Complete FreeBSD > > > bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at > > Page ii > _______ > > The instructions on page ii (opposite the title page) tell you to look at > ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2 for the errata list. That's wrong. > Look at this list. > > Pages 190 and 191 > _________________ > > The description is not very clear about which text appears when booting from > floppy for initial install, and which appears when booting normally. The > procedure is very similar, but there are some differences. Add the following > text after the heading Boot messages: > > You'll boot your system in at least two different ways: initially you'll boot > from floppy or CD-ROM in order to install the system. Later, after the system > is installed, you'll boot from hard disk. The procedure is almost identical, > so we'll look at both versions in the following examples. > > Replace the text from the middle of page 191 with: > > If you're booting from 1.44 MB floppies, you will then see: > > Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: > > When you insert the MFS root floppy and press Enter, you see more twirling > batons, then the UserConfig screen appears. > > UserConfig: Modifying the boot configuration > ____________________________________________ > > After the kernel has been loaded, the following screen will appear if you are > installing the system, or if you have requested it with the -c option to the > boot loader: > > Page 206 > ________ > > The bottom two lines on this page should be in bold constant font, indicating > that this is input for your /etc/rc.config file > > > Page 2 > > > > > > > Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition > > > nfs_client_enable="YES" # This host is an NFS client (or NO). > nfs_server_enable="YES" # This host is an NFS server (or NO). > > > Page 265 > ________ > > The example on the second half of the page refers to the old SCSI driver. The > scsi program is no longer available in FreeBSD 3.x. Instead, use the > camcontrol program. Replace the text with:. > > Modern disks make provisions for recovering from such errors by allocating an > alternate sector for the data. IDE drives do this automatically, but with SCSI > drives you have the option of enabling or disabling reallocation. Usually it > is turned on when you buy them, but occasionally it is not. When installing a > new disk, you should check that the parameters ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation > Enable) and AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enable) are turned on. For example, > to check and set the values for disk da1, you would enter: > > # camcontrol modepage da1 -m 1 -e -P 3 > # scsi -f /dev/rda1c -m 1 -e -P 3 > > This command will start up your favourite editor (either the one specified in > the EDITOR environment variable, or vi by default) with the following data: > > AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enbld): 0 > ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enbld): 1 > TB (Transfer Block): 0 > RC (Read Continuous): 0 > EER (Enable Early Recovery): 0 > PER (Post Error): 0 > DTE (Disable Transfer on Error): 0 > DCR (Disable Correction): 0 > Read Retry Count: 16 > Correction Span: 41 > Head Offset Count: 0 > Data Strobe Offset Count: 0 > Write Retry Count: 16 > Recovery Time Limit: 0 > > The values for AWRE and ARRE should both be 1. If they aren't, as in this > case, where AWRE is 0, change the data with the editor, save it, and exit. The > camcontrol program will write the data back to the disk and enable the option. > > > Page 3 > > > > > > > The Complete FreeBSD > > > Page 331 > ________ > > The description of the config refers to the SCSI drive sd0. This is the old > name; in FreeBSD version 3, SCSI drives are called da, so this reference should > be da0. > > Thanks to Francisco Reyes for pointing out this > problem. > > Page 362 > ________ > > Replace the text at the top of the page with: > > Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel: > > # cd ../../compile/FREEBIE > # make depend > # make > > The make depend is needed even if the directory has just been created: > apart from creating dependency information, it also creates some files > needed for the build. > Thanks to Mark Ovens for drawing this to my attention, > and to Francisco Reyes and Bill Fumerola > for pointing out that it still wasn't fixed in the > third edition. > > Page 409 > ________ > > The information on setting the default routers specified the wrong end of the > PPP links in some places. It should always be the ``far'' end of the link. > Replace the second example on page 409, and the text following it, with this > text: > > defaultrouter="139.130.136.129" # Set to default gateway (or NO). > static_routes="" # Set to static route list (or leave empty). > gateway_enable="YES" # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway. > > This is the normal way to set the default route on a point-to-point interface. > In fact, for PPP you don't need to specify the default address: the PPP > packages will set it for you when the link comes up. This makes it possible to > > Page 4 > > > > > > > Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition > > > set default routes when you're forced to use dynamic IP addresses, where you > don't know the address at this point. We'll see how PPP does this on page 446. > > In the first example on page 410, the sixth example on page 412 and the second > example on page 413, replace the defaultrouter definition with: > > > defaultrouter="139.130.237.65" # Set to default gateway (or NO). > > > Thanks to Andreas Longwitz for pointing out this error. > > Getting errata for older editions of the book > _____________________________________________ > > There have been a total of five different versions of ``The Complete FreeBSD''. > The most accurate way to distinguish them is by the format date, which you'll > find at the bottom of page iv (the page before the beginning of the Table of > Contents) in all versions of the book. > > 1. The first was titled ``Installing and running FreeBSD'', and was formatted > on 24 February 1996. No errata list exists for this book. > > 2. For the first edition (19 July 1996), get ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/er- > rata-1. This same file is also available via the web link > http://www.lemis.com/errata-1. I am no longer updating this errata list. > > 3. The list for the second edition (16 December 1997) is available in four > forms: > > o A PostScript version, suitable for printing out, at > ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the second > edition to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all possible, > please take this document: it's closest to the original text. > > Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible > to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. > > o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. > When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and > underlining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. > > o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This > version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Only > > Page 5 > > > > > > > Getting errata for older editions of the book > > > take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be > sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. > > o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html. > > 4. The revised second edition was formatted on 11 February 1999. As the name > suggests, it's not a complete new edition: in fact, only three chapters are > different: > > o The chapter ``Setting up X11'' has been brought up to date. > > o Appendix D (``Contents of the Ports Collection'') has been replaced by two > appendixes, ``Errata and Addenda'' (the errata list up to date at the time) > and ``FreeBSD 3.0'', which describes the differences between FreeBSD 2.x > and FreeBSD 3.x. > > There is no separate errata list for this book. Refer to the second edition > errata list. > > 5. The current, third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999. This is the correct > list for this edition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Page 6 > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 23: 0:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mp200-2.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mp200-2.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A670437B423; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:00:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from house@lvcm.com) Received: from neoone (cm082.44.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.44.82]) by 100m.mp200-2.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABF31662; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <063401c0ca28$1efacf30$1616160a@neoone> From: "JannaDanRich" To: "dotslash" , , "Greg Lehey" References: <20010421000204.7BB2E37B43E@hub.freebsd.org> <010601c0ca25$879c44e0$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> Subject: Re: "The Complete FreeBSD", third edition: errata and addenda Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:58:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is THE book .. it covers everything in general, really lets you get your hands dirty from the start .. from gen config of X to detailed, gen config of Apache, your shell, Samba, IPFIREWALL, natd, ppp .. if you are porting over so to speak from another flavor, maybe not, but it has a lot of good info ----- Original Message ----- From: "dotslash" To: ; "Greg Lehey" Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:08 PM Subject: Re: "The Complete FreeBSD", third edition: errata and addenda > i keep seeing this book as one of the recommended books aside from the > handbook but there are no sample chapters nor table of contents from which > one can have an idea what is covered. > > is this book only basic fbsd or will it be usable for intermediate fbsd > users? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Lehey" > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 4:02 AM > Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD", third edition: errata and addenda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition > > > > > > > > > > Last revision: 2 August 1999 > > > > The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web > page > > or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading > edge > > computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. > Unfortunately, > > ``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut Creek, is no exception. > In- > > evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. > > > > The following is a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos. > They > > relate to the third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999. You'll find > this > > information on page iv (the page before the beginning of the > Table of > > Contents). See the end of this document for instructions on how to find > the > > errata for an older version. > > > > You can get the current document in four forms: > > > > o A PostScript version, suitable for printing out, > at > > ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ps. See page 302 of the third > edition > > to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all possible, please > take > > this document: it's closest to the original text. > > > > Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often > impossible to > > reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. > > > > o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.txt. > When > > viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting > and > > underlining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. > > > > o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ascii. > This > > version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. > Only > > take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be > sure > > that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. > > > > o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-3.html. > > > > All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing source text of > the > > book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well. If you > find a > > > > > Page 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Complete FreeBSD > > > > > > bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at > > > > > Page ii > > _______ > > > > The instructions on page ii (opposite the title page) tell you to > look at > > ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2 for the errata list. That's > wrong. > > Look at this list. > > > > Pages 190 and 191 > > _________________ > > > > The description is not very clear about which text appears when booting > from > > floppy for initial install, and which appears when booting normally. > The > > procedure is very similar, but there are some differences. Add the > following > > text after the heading Boot messages: > > > > You'll boot your system in at least two different ways: initially you'll > boot > > from floppy or CD-ROM in order to install the system. Later, after the > system > > is installed, you'll boot from hard disk. The procedure is almost > identical, > > so we'll look at both versions in the following examples. > > > > Replace the text from the middle of page 191 with: > > > > If you're booting from 1.44 MB floppies, you will then see: > > > > Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: > > > > When you insert the MFS root floppy and press Enter, you see more > twirling > > batons, then the UserConfig screen appears. > > > > UserConfig: Modifying the boot configuration > > ____________________________________________ > > > > After the kernel has been loaded, the following screen will appear if > you are > > installing the system, or if you have requested it with the -c option to > the > > boot loader: > > > > Page 206 > > ________ > > > > The bottom two lines on this page should be in bold constant font, > indicating > > that this is input for your /etc/rc.config file > > > > > > Page 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third > edition > > > > > > nfs_client_enable="YES" # This host is an NFS client (or NO). > > nfs_server_enable="YES" # This host is an NFS server (or NO). > > > > > > Page 265 > > ________ > > > > The example on the second half of the page refers to the old SCSI driver. > The > > scsi program is no longer available in FreeBSD 3.x. Instead, > use the > > camcontrol program. Replace the text with:. > > > > Modern disks make provisions for recovering from such errors by > allocating an > > alternate sector for the data. IDE drives do this automatically, but with > SCSI > > drives you have the option of enabling or disabling reallocation. > Usually it > > is turned on when you buy them, but occasionally it is not. When > installing a > > new disk, you should check that the parameters ARRE (Auto Read > Reallocation > > Enable) and AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enable) are turned on. For > example, > > to check and set the values for disk da1, you would enter: > > > > # camcontrol modepage da1 -m 1 -e -P 3 > > # scsi -f /dev/rda1c -m 1 -e -P 3 > > > > This command will start up your favourite editor (either the one > specified in > > the EDITOR environment variable, or vi by default) with the following > data: > > > > AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enbld): 0 > > ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enbld): 1 > > TB (Transfer Block): 0 > > RC (Read Continuous): 0 > > EER (Enable Early Recovery): 0 > > PER (Post Error): 0 > > DTE (Disable Transfer on Error): 0 > > DCR (Disable Correction): 0 > > Read Retry Count: 16 > > Correction Span: 41 > > Head Offset Count: 0 > > Data Strobe Offset Count: 0 > > Write Retry Count: 16 > > Recovery Time Limit: 0 > > > > The values for AWRE and ARRE should both be 1. If they aren't, as in > this > > case, where AWRE is 0, change the data with the editor, save it, and exit. > The > > camcontrol program will write the data back to the disk and enable the > option. > > > > > > > Page 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Complete FreeBSD > > > > > > Page 331 > > ________ > > > > The description of the config refers to the SCSI drive sd0. This is the > old > > name; in FreeBSD version 3, SCSI drives are called da, so this reference > should > > be da0. > > > > Thanks to Francisco Reyes for pointing out > this > > problem. > > > > Page 362 > > ________ > > > > Replace the text at the top of the page with: > > > > Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel: > > > > # cd ../../compile/FREEBIE > > # make depend > > # make > > > > The make depend is needed even if the directory has just been > created: > > apart from creating dependency information, it also creates some > files > > needed for the build. > > Thanks to Mark Ovens for drawing this to my > attention, > > and to Francisco Reyes and Bill > Fumerola > > for pointing out that it still wasn't fixed > in the > > third edition. > > > > Page 409 > > ________ > > > > The information on setting the default routers specified the wrong end of > the > > PPP links in some places. It should always be the ``far'' end of the > link. > > Replace the second example on page 409, and the text following it, with > this > > text: > > > > defaultrouter="139.130.136.129" # Set to default gateway (or NO). > > static_routes="" # Set to static route list (or leave empty). > > gateway_enable="YES" # Set to YES if this host will be a > gateway. > > > > This is the normal way to set the default route on a point-to-point > interface. > > In fact, for PPP you don't need to specify the default address: the > PPP > > packages will set it for you when the link comes up. This makes it > possible to > > > > Page 4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third > edition > > > > > > set default routes when you're forced to use dynamic IP addresses, where > you > > don't know the address at this point. We'll see how PPP does this on page > 446. > > > > In the first example on page 410, the sixth example on page 412 and the > second > > example on page 413, replace the defaultrouter definition with: > > > > > > defaultrouter="139.130.237.65" # Set to default gateway (or NO). > > > > > > Thanks to Andreas Longwitz for pointing out this > error. > > > > Getting errata for older editions of the book > > _____________________________________________ > > > > There have been a total of five different versions of ``The Complete > FreeBSD''. > > The most accurate way to distinguish them is by the format date, which > you'll > > find at the bottom of page iv (the page before the beginning of the > Table of > > Contents) in all versions of the book. > > > > 1. The first was titled ``Installing and running FreeBSD'', and was > formatted > > on 24 February 1996. No errata list exists for this book. > > > > 2. For the first edition (19 July 1996), get > ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/er- > > rata-1. This same file is also available via the web > link > > http://www.lemis.com/errata-1. I am no longer updating this errata list. > > > > 3. The list for the second edition (16 December 1997) is available in > four > > forms: > > > > o A PostScript version, suitable for printing out, > at > > ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the > second > > edition to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all > possible, > > please take this document: it's closest to the original text. > > > > Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often > impossible > > to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. > > > > o An enhanced ASCII version at > ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. > > When viewed with more or less, this version will show some > highlighting and > > underlining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. > > > > o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. > This > > version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. > Only > > > > > Page 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting errata for older editions of the book > > > > > > take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I > can't be > > sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. > > > > o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html. > > > > 4. The revised second edition was formatted on 11 February 1999. As the > name > > suggests, it's not a complete new edition: in fact, only three chapters > are > > different: > > > > o The chapter ``Setting up X11'' has been brought up to date. > > > > o Appendix D (``Contents of the Ports Collection'') has been replaced > by two > > appendixes, ``Errata and Addenda'' (the errata list up to date at the > time) > > and ``FreeBSD 3.0'', which describes the differences between > FreeBSD 2.x > > and FreeBSD 3.x. > > > > There is no separate errata list for this book. Refer to the second > edition > > errata list. > > > > 5. The current, third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999. This is the > correct > > list for this edition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Page 6 > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 23:21:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from arena.delfi.lv (mail.parks.lv [195.2.96.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD9537B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:21:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwi@delfi.lv) Received: from themAn (rev-166.PLV01.delfi.lv [195.114.47.166] (may be forged)) by arena.delfi.lv (8.9.3/8.9.1/OL.cf-3.1) with SMTP id JAA17856 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:21:24 +0300 Message-ID: <001d01c0ca2b$4d508160$a62f72c3@themAn> From: "uwi mAn" To: Subject: release 4.3 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:21:28 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0CA44.720FD140" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0CA44.720FD140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable where can i get it? ftp.freebsd.org seems to be down for me. thanks ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0CA44.720FD140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0CA44.720FD140-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 0:48:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1467937B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:48:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3L7m6H64870 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:48:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3L7m4p64418; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:48:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.5.100] (may be forged)) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.3/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3L7lp020196; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:47:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <009f01c0ca37$8d375680$6405a8c0@neland.dk> From: "Leif Neland" To: "default013" , "Tony Landells" Cc: References: <200104210509.PAA21077@tungsten.austclear.com.au> Subject: Re: re-compiling sendmail Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:49:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by ns.internet.dk id f3L7m4p64418 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Landells" To: "default013" Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:09 AM Subject: Re: re-compiling sendmail > > Yes, there is another makefile in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail, however, if > > you use this, you will find that it builds some kind of sendmail includes in > > that directory ... and not full sendmail... I wish that were the answer > > though... > > > If theres something I missed, I'd love for it to be pointed out... > > > Theres also another makefile in /usr/src/share/sendmail (if i remember right > > cause my server is down right now) ... not sure what that one does, but I > > tried that one too, and I think it just re-created /usr/share/sendmail/cf > > ... where you can make sendmail.cf files... > > The software builds under /usr/obj, so if you run make in > /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail you should finish up with a sendmail executable > in the directory /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail. But I think you should > also be able to do "make install" in /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail to install > the new executable from /usr/obj/... in /usr/sbin. > > Hopefully that's the last piece of the puzzle :-) > Do a less `grep NO_SENDMAIL /usr/src/*/Makefile` This will hint what isn't done when sendmail isn't being built, so just reverse the negation and do it :-) Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 1: 6: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE2137B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:06:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E4B5466B1C; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:06:03 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Doug Young Cc: Kris Kennaway , Gerry Freymann , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Message-ID: <20010421010603.A9128@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle> <20010420221800.A7521@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle>; from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 03:36:07PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 03:36:07PM +1000, Doug Young wrote: > According to the official docs, all that needs to be added to the kernel > config file is "options Where does it say this? It's obviously wrong, as you point out. Kris --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64T9rWry0BWjoQKURAkTMAJ9ChoIHzyDxIlnDq21wERtm0SUC0QCfQTG2 zfpPUFB/fzb3Ex8+2l6V4XU= =3U0z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 1:14:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin10.bigpond.com (juicer35.bigpond.com [139.134.6.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C5037B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:14:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.50]) by mailin10.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GC4V4300.HKE; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:19:15 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-142-50.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.142.50]) by mail8.bigpond.com (Claudes-Coppertone-MailRouter V2.9c 17/5117384); 21 Apr 2001 18:14:34 Message-ID: <018201c0ca3b$080991e0$328e093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , "Gerry Freymann" , References: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle> <20010420221800.A7521@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle> <20010421010603.A9128@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:14:04 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 03:36:07PM +1000, Doug Young wrote: > According to the official docs, all that needs to be added to the kernel > config file is "options Where does it say this? It's obviously wrong, as you point out. See extract from handbook .... as I read it only "options NETGRAPH" is necessary, the other lines are "optional". Well I guess they are, but it sure caused me some lost sleep until I found out was was going on !! 16.4.2. Kernel Configuration You will need to set the following options in your kernel configuration file and then compile a new kernel. a.. options NETGRAPH Optionally, you can add a.. options NETGRAPH_PPPOE b.. options NETGRAPH_SOCKET although if this functionality is not available at runtime, ppp will load the relevant modules on demand To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 1:18:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4333437B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:18:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7D0F066B1C; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:18:21 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Doug Young Cc: Kris Kennaway , Gerry Freymann , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Message-ID: <20010421011820.A9328@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle> <20010420221800.A7521@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle> <20010421010603.A9128@xor.obsecurity.org> <018201c0ca3b$080991e0$328e093d@oracle> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <018201c0ca3b$080991e0$328e093d@oracle>; from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 06:14:04PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 06:14:04PM +1000, Doug Young wrote: > On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 03:36:07PM +1000, Doug Young wrote: >=20 > > According to the official docs, all that needs to be added to the kernel > > config file is "options >=20 > Where does it say this? It's obviously wrong, as you point out. >=20 > See extract from handbook .... as I read it only "options NETGRAPH" > is necessary, the other lines are "optional". Well I guess they are, but > it sure caused me some lost sleep until I found out was was going on !! Now that you've figured it out, please submit a PR clarifying the docs to save future generations the trouble. Kris --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64UJMWry0BWjoQKURAmnGAJwNTkxShIcGoamyFacx2utmxd3B8wCeO/Tw JyVO5L/8Kq/HvgAz9p1YN0I= =OBOr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 1:28:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin5.bigpond.com (juicer02.bigpond.com [139.134.6.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9546237B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:28:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.58]) by mailin5.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GC4VRZ00.FRR; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:33:35 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-142-50.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.142.50]) by mail1.bigpond.com (Claudes-Caring-MailRouter V2.9c 1/5393482); 21 Apr 2001 18:28:56 Message-ID: <019f01c0ca3d$08ba0b40$328e093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , "Gerry Freymann" , References: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle> <20010420221800.A7521@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle> <20010421010603.A9128@xor.obsecurity.org> <018201c0ca3b$080991e0$328e093d@oracle> <20010421011820.A9328@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:28:23 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG WTF is a "PR" ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kris Kennaway" To: "Doug Young" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" ; "Gerry Freymann" ; Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 1:29:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.oskarmobil.cz (smtp1.oskarmobil.cz [217.77.161.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C96637B423; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Milon.Papezik@oskarmobil.cz) Received: from wh01ex02.ceskymobil.cz (wh01ex02.ceskymobil.cz [172.20.128.42]) by smtp1.oskarmobil.cz (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3L8SKJ72589; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:28:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Milon.Papezik@oskarmobil.cz) Received: by wh01ex02.ceskymobil.cz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:29:14 +0200 Message-ID: <11CCE9D433CFD311B32A00508B95BCA005E4A1E1@wh01ex02.ceskymobil.cz> From: Milon Papezik To: "'Linh Pham'" , Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Patrick Calkins , "Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail)" , "Freebsd-Questions (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:29:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG DL 380 works great here (with release 4.2). The ida driver is in GENERIC kernel, so you can simply install from CD. Milon -- m.papezik@post.cz -----Original Message----- From: Linh Pham [mailto:lplist@closedsrc.org] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 6:22 To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Patrick Calkins; Freebsd-Hardware (E-mail); Freebsd-Questions (E-mail) Subject: RE: Which hardware vender for FreeBSD? On 2001-04-20, Ted Mittelstaedt scribbled: # This isn't true for Compaq - they sell preloaded Linux systems. # Please check the following URL: # # http://www.compaq.com/products/workstations/software-platform/osmatrix.html What I meant is that not all of the Windows-based solutions are available for the servers that come with Linux pre-loaded. This is changing, some quicker than others... but it's not easy to get a quad-processor server with Linux pre-loaded... from Compaq anyways :) # They ALSO have at least one Intel-based system running FreeBSD # in their testdrive center (although they do NOT sell preloaded # FreeBSD systems) Unfortunately... nor do they have any Alpha based workstations pre-loaded with FreeBSD like one of their Alpha test-drive servers :( # There is also the ida driver which supports the Compaq SmartRaid # controllers. Do you know which versions of the SmartRAID controller is supported. I do have a fairly old Compaq server running FreeBSD, but I would like to get it on a DL380 or something as a hefty mail/DNS server for work. -- Linh Pham [lplist@closedsrc.org] // 404b - Brain not found To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 1:33:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-27.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A675737B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6E08266B1C; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:33:05 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Doug Young Cc: Kris Kennaway , Gerry Freymann , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Message-ID: <20010421013304.A9560@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle> <20010420221800.A7521@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle> <20010421010603.A9128@xor.obsecurity.org> <018201c0ca3b$080991e0$328e093d@oracle> <20010421011820.A9328@xor.obsecurity.org> <019f01c0ca3d$08ba0b40$328e093d@oracle> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <019f01c0ca3d$08ba0b40$328e093d@oracle>; from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 06:28:23PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 06:28:23PM +1000, Doug Young wrote: > WTF is a "PR" ?? PR = Problem Report ("Change request") man send-pr(8) or use the form on the website. Kris --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64UXAWry0BWjoQKURAjtaAKCfpVBVZYjEfER3L4TWc34a3JTwjgCfaIds BkjBcyx3R8FxzzZgv3o/NaM= =Zp44 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 1:39:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17A037B42C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:39:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA65122; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:39:05 +0300 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:39:05 +0300 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: <<< 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [217.21.68.1] In-Reply-To: <018c01c0c9f6$a4f79280$6405a8c0@neland.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG it says cant find your hostname... it doesnt say the address doesnt match! I think there is another error for that! Evren On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Leif Neland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Evren Yurtesen" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 6:07 PM > Subject: <<< 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname, [217.21.68.1] > > > > can anybody explain what the hell is happening? > > > > bessel:/home2/240S99/eyurtese>nslookup 217.21.68.1 > > Server: ns.turkuamk.fi > > Address: 195.148.208.2 > > > > Name: finland.ispro.net.tr > > Address: 217.21.68.1 > > > > bessel:/home2/240S99/eyurtese> > > > arnold/home # host 217.21.68.1 > 1.68.21.217.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer finland.ispro.net.tr > > arnold/home # host finland.ispro.net.tr > finland.ispro.net.tr has address 212.174.120.1 > > Forward does not match reverse > > Leif > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 1:59:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D77C37B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fasi_74@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO client2) (202.87.102.168) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 08:59:30 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <008b01c0caa6$5249e410$a86657ca@client2> From: "faisal" To: , Cc: "FreeBSD" References: Subject: Re: [expert] Downloading mandrake 8 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:01:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks but tell me can the source files reside on a msdos ie FAT 16 or FAT32 if i start from a boot disk ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcel Pol" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:04 AM Subject: RE: [expert] Downloading mandrake 8 > > On 20-Apr-01 faisal wrote: > > I am downloadin this mandrake 8 from ftp its not an ISO image mainly > > because > > i dont have a CD burner & burning a CD is a though job for me ... > > So i am downloading this i586 directory in mandrake cuase i only want > > the base system not the srmps... am i right here ? > > also tell me that how to install from this directory when it is on a > > Windows system ..... ? > > What I did was download an iso, make a bootdisk (from the images > directory on the ftp), boot the bootdisk and install from the iso. > Went fine. > I guess you can do the same with the rpm's. > And no, you don't need the srpm's to install. > > -- > Marcel Pol > mpol@gmx.net > > ...my cow ate the CDs. > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 2:51:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0959337B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:51:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 9590 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 09:51:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpu563) (195.229.53.55) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 09:51:48 -0000 Message-ID: <002001c0ca48$8978df30$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> From: "dotslash" To: "faisal" , , Cc: "FreeBSD" References: <008b01c0caa6$5249e410$a86657ca@client2> Subject: Re: [expert] Downloading mandrake 8 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:50:08 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG so why are you posting in a fbsd list? ----- Original Message ----- From: "faisal" To: ; Cc: "FreeBSD" Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [expert] Downloading mandrake 8 > Thanks but tell me can the source files reside on a msdos ie FAT 16 or FAT32 > if i start from a boot disk ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marcel Pol" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:04 AM > Subject: RE: [expert] Downloading mandrake 8 > > > > > > On 20-Apr-01 faisal wrote: > > > I am downloadin this mandrake 8 from ftp its not an ISO image mainly > > > because > > > i dont have a CD burner & burning a CD is a though job for me ... > > > So i am downloading this i586 directory in mandrake cuase i only want > > > the base system not the srmps... am i right here ? > > > also tell me that how to install from this directory when it is on a > > > Windows system ..... ? > > > > What I did was download an iso, make a bootdisk (from the images > > directory on the ftp), boot the bootdisk and install from the iso. > > Went fine. > > I guess you can do the same with the rpm's. > > And no, you don't need the srpm's to install. > > > > -- > > Marcel Pol > > mpol@gmx.net > > > > ...my cow ate the CDs. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 3: 7: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from adakro.osowa.gda.osk.pl (adakro.osowa.gda.osk.pl [212.244.103.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F5E37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kontakt@poznajkraj.pl) Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by adakro.osowa.gda.osk.pl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07294 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:44:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200104202044.QAA07294@adakro.osowa.gda.osk.pl> Subject: Ogolnopolski Wortal Turystyczny Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Mime-version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: "www.poznajkraj.pl" Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:44 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OGÓLNOPOLSKI WORTAL KRAJOZNAWCZY HTTP://POZNAJKRAJ.PL TWÓJ PRZEWODNIK PO POLSCE Poznajkraj.pl najdynamiczniej rozwijaj±cy siê w Polsce profesjonalny wortal, prezentuj±cy kompleksow± bazê informacji o wypoczynku, rozrywce i kulturze w naszym kraju. 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------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0CA5E.C0089B60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 3:30:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A8937B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru) Received: from astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (astro.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.229.130]) by relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16743 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:30:10 +0400 (MSD) Received: by astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.3/Clnt-2.14-AS-eef) id OAA00847; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:29:26 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:29:26 +0400 (MSD) From: Alexey Koptsevich To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: opera and Russian Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have installed opera 5.0b7 from ports. It works OK but does not show Russian text but only question marks (although I see Russian text in the "sample" filed), and no Russian input is possibele. Opera shows also the following error message: QFontDialog::updateFamilies: Internal error, no character sets for family "courier" Would be grateful for help! Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 4: 5:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B070F37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:05:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from almuhairi@pop.softhome.net) Received: (qmail 27169 invoked by uid 417); 21 Apr 2001 10:44:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO m8q0k0.pop.softhome.net) (213.42.164.49) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 10:44:41 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.0.20010420145715.00a7d940@pop.softhome.net> X-Sender: almuhairi@pop.softhome.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:03:16 +0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: abdulla Subject: Patching Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I bought The Complete FreeBSD book with the 4 CDs ( my way of supporting them :) ) from what I read, I need to have a full copy of the source in order to update FreeBSD. I have seen security patches in the FTP sites, and all I want is to apply them. Do I have to do a one day compiling to apply these patches? Can't I just patch FreeBSD with a command similar to rpm -Uvh xxxx.rpm in linux? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 4:22:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bryden.apana.org.au (bryden.apana.org.au [203.3.126.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386D537B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@bryden.apana.org.au) Received: from localhost (dougy@localhost) by bryden.apana.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09686 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:21:45 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@bryden.apana.org.au) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:21:41 +1000 (EST) From: Doug Young To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ADSL / PPPoE configuration Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm attempting to configure a 4.2 RELEASE system as an ADSL gateway. Despite reading everything I can find on the subject I'm still confused about what to do with files like '/etc/rc.conf", "/etc/resolv.conf", "/etc/ppp.linkup" If a system has two network adaptors (one for ADSL modem & one for LAN), what settings are needed in rc.conf ?? Obviously I can't assign similar addresses to both ethernet interfaces when I have no way of knowing the what the DHCP one will be before connecting ... hopefully NAT is smart enough to send LAN packets to / from the right place (although there is a quite vague warning re ADSL / NAT in the handbook linking to a dead page) With dialup modem gateway setups using either fixed public IPs or NAT addresses its straightforward enough, so whats the problem here with nat'ting the first ethernet interface & using 192.168 addresses on the LAN side ?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 4:23: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2046137B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:22:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 10061 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 11:22:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpu563) (195.229.53.55) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 11:22:53 -0000 Message-ID: <002101c0ca55$43262c60$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> From: "dotslash" To: , "abdulla" References: <4.3.0.20010420145715.00a7d940@pop.softhome.net> Subject: Re: Patching Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:21:09 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG as i see it you can do it two ways: 1. have the complete sources tree and do a file by file patch or 2. use cvsup and get updated to the latest build either way you will need the complete source tree. the speed will be dependent on how fast your system is. ----- Original Message ----- From: "abdulla" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:03 PM Subject: Patching > I bought The Complete FreeBSD book with the 4 CDs ( my way of supporting > them :) ) from what I read, I need to have a full copy of the source in > order to update FreeBSD. I have seen security patches in the FTP sites, > and all I want is to apply them. Do I have to do a one day compiling to > apply these patches? Can't I just patch FreeBSD with a command similar to > rpm -Uvh xxxx.rpm in linux? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 4:27:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from omail2.emirates.net.ae (omail2.emirates.net.ae [194.170.168.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B1A37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:27:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maihadah@emirates.net.ae) Received: from pmail3.emirates.net.ae by omail2.emirates.net.ae (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.10.12.16.25.p8) with ESMTP id <0GC500B3J32Q3K@omail2.emirates.net.ae> for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:11:14 +0400 (GST) Received: from m8q0k0 (taa049.emirates.net.ae [213.42.164.49]) by pmail3.emirates.net.ae (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.10.12.16.25.p8) with SMTP id <0GC5000QX32PJ7@pmail3.emirates.net.ae> for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:11:14 +0400 (GST) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:09:10 +0400 From: Abdulla Subject: patching To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <000901c0c98a$53b4c6c0$31a42ad5@m8q0k0> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I bought The Complete FreeBSD book with the 4 CDs ( my way of supporting them :) ) from what I read, I need to have a full copy of the source in order to update FreeBSD. I have seen security patches in the FTP sites, and all I want is to apply them. Do I have to do a one day compiling to apply these patches? Can't I just patch FreeBSD with a command similar to rpm -Uvh xxxx.rpm in linux? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 4:33:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2DF37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:33:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3LBVOp30206; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:31:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <006201c0ca56$79b46e80$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Kris Kennaway" , "Doug Young" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , "Gerry Freymann" , References: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle> <20010420221800.A7521@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle> <20010421010603.A9128@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:30:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kris Kennaway" To: "Doug Young" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" ; "Gerry Freymann" ; Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 4:06 AM Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 04:06:06AM, Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 03:36:07PM +1000, Doug Young wrote: > According to the official docs, all that needs to be added to the kernel > config file is "options > >Where does it say this? It's obviously wrong, as you point out. How is this wrong? I've been running a firewall machine with PPPoE for some time configured this way. 'options NETGRAPH' needs to be present, but any component of netgraph that isn't statically linked in the kernel will be loaded dynamically from the set of modules in /modules. Furthermore, if you're missing a module, ppp should give you something like "Warning: kldload: ng_ether: No such file or directory" and return you to a ppp> prompt. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 4:34:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3169437B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:34:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from educatee2001@yahoo.com) Received: from co3018900-a.belrs1.nsw.optushome.com.au (HELO co3018900a) (203.164.78.30) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 11:34:27 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <000901c0ca57$2f9763b0$0100a8c0@co3018900a> From: "Educatee" To: "FreeBSD questions" , "ipfilter" Subject: suggestion to manage ipfilter Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:35:35 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was searching if there is any web base program to manage ipfilter. for instance to look at the input packat and output packat from a remote machine through perhaps a browser or perhaps a small Java interface tools. If there is none, will a small Java program be written to monitor or configure ipfilter better than a web based configuration method? What do you reckon? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 4:42:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web12002.mail.yahoo.com (web12002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B3AAA37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:42:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd2000au@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20010421114232.93992.qmail@web12002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.80.67.55] by web12002.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:42:32 EST Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:42:32 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Keith=20Spencer?= Subject: about how mail routing works To: freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I was wondering about m entries in dns tables. I know I can label several mail server entries in order of primacy smallest to largest number so if a machine is down the next m entry mail server will hold the mail for the primary, temporarily off-line machine. How on earth does this work? Signed intrigued Keith Spencer _____________________________________________________________________________ http://store.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Store - It's time you had your business online! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 4:49:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin8.bigpond.com (juicer39.bigpond.com [139.134.6.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E2A37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:49:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyoung6@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.55]) by mailin8.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GC553K00.D9Y; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:54:56 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-142-184.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.142.184]) by mail4.bigpond.com (Claudes-Detailed-MailRouter V2.9c 7/5594869); 21 Apr 2001 21:50:16 Message-ID: <001001c0ca59$296a0d10$b88e093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Matthew Emmerton" , "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , "Gerry Freymann" , References: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle> <20010420221800.A7521@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle> <20010421010603.A9128@xor.obsecurity.org> <006201c0ca56$79b46e80$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:49:43 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > How is this wrong? I've been running a firewall machine with PPPoE for some time configured this way. 'options NETGRAPH' needs to be present, but any component of netgraph that isn't statically linked in the kernel will be loaded dynamically from the set of modules in /modules. > As I stated in an earlier message, the non-inclusion of the additional lines results in error messages when pppoe starts. If the handbook specified that ALL the lines should be included then there wouldn't be a problem. I've sent in a PR ?? re the issue. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 4:55:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.a2000.nl (deviet-f.a2000.nl [62.108.1.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5B837B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 04:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bliekp@cable.a2000.nl) Received: from node1475b.a2000.nl ([24.132.71.91] helo=sisters.cable.a2000.nl) by smtp3.a2000.nl with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 14qvzK-0000J2-00 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:55:42 +0200 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010421112232.00a7ada0@192.168.2.1> X-Sender: bliekp@192.168.2.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:25:26 +0200 To: From: Pim Bliek Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD ........ Can someone please create a seperate list for this DISCUSSION? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, Maybe a nice discussion, but I feel it doesn't belong here. And I'm getting quite annoyed by opening my email program and finding that half of the new email is about this...... Maybe I'm wrong (please correct me if so), but I thought this list was about questions, and answers, and that you were going to be shot if you went of topic ;-) Pim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 5: 0:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF2C37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14qw2e-000Bmh-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:59:08 +0300 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:59:08 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-Q Subject: XWindows and Intel i810 Message-ID: <20010421145908.A42112@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 2:58PM up 4 days, 21:22, 4 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.05, 0.01 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Is there anyone who's successfully used X with this card - i810 ?? TX -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. Don't kiss an elephant on the lips today. --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64XYMn7LIsuxjem8RAgxaAKCMvGVjewas9NSJXerouGXBIgXwAwCeJCQb 6EVqVyQVKlNvZWyiApuKrPY= =n0xi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 5: 4:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEB737B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:04:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Sudsone@aol.com) Received: from Sudsone@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.9.) id n.27.1448ddf5 (4263) for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:04:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Sudsone@aol.com Message-ID: <27.1448ddf5.2812d15a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:04:42 EDT Subject: internet exployer script error To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_27.1448ddf5.2812d15a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --part1_27.1448ddf5.2812d15a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am on aol I have 5.0 and 6.0 every 25 seconds I get a message that reads( internet explorer script error syntax 421 or 521 then it reads would you like to continue I press yes and buy my time for 25 secs more its driving me crazy, I also cant open my wondows media player gary mazza --part1_27.1448ddf5.2812d15a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am on aol I have 5.0 and 6.0 every 25 seconds I get a message that reads(
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  gary mazza   --part1_27.1448ddf5.2812d15a_boundary-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 5: 9:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-02.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96BFE37B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from katinka@magestower.com) Received: (qmail 9805 invoked by uid 666); 21 Apr 2001 12:09:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO WSKATINKA) (203.59.103.81) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 12:09:18 -0000 Message-ID: <009701c0ca5b$3df86ea0$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> From: "Kathy Quinlan" To: , "Pim Bliek" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010421112232.00a7ada0@192.168.2.1> Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD ........ Can someone please create a seperate list for this DISCUSSION? Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:04:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I personally think this is a great discussion, some of us have to spec hardware, and reading reviews on sites are great, but what counts is how it preforms in the field. As for moving it to another list, what is the point, if we create another list people will get more confused about what goes where, and ppl will post stuff to the other list that is meant for here and then this lists archive will not contain all the answers... plus, how many ppl would subscribe to another list ?? not many in experience so why divide the community further. Some could use the same idea and suggest separate lists for dialup access and a separate one to broadband as both do not apply to all, but it defeats the purpose of this list, it might have gotten a bit off topic, but as I said earlier some of us have to spec hardware for work Regards, Kat. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pim Bliek To: Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 5:25 PM Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD ........ Can someone please create a seperate list for this DISCUSSION? > Hi All, > > Maybe a nice discussion, but I feel it doesn't belong here. > And I'm getting quite annoyed by opening my email program and finding that > half of the new email is about this...... > > Maybe I'm wrong (please correct me if so), but I thought this list was > about questions, and answers, and that you were going to be shot if you > went of topic ;-) > > Pim > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 5:11:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF5237B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:11:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([fec0::2e0:7dff:fe81:749d] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qw0h-000Ll4-00; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:57:07 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3LBv7107909; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:57:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:57:07 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: JannaDanRich Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please Help .. moron at wheel .. oops no, don't even have that acct Message-ID: <20010421125706.A42151@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <05fb01c0ca1d$23d6b5b0$1616160a@neoone> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <05fb01c0ca1d$23d6b5b0$1616160a@neoone> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG JannaDanRich wrote: > ok, only one user configured, changing shell > and I didn't double check my typing .. I have no > shell for my root user now.. how do I get in to effect > changes to passwd? Reboot into single user mode. See the FAQ entry about forgetting the root password in the System Administration section, the problem is similar. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 5:29:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6CF37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:29:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 10586A80B; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:29:15 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A65B5488 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:29:15 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:29:14 +1000 (EST) From: To: Subject: Duplicating Audio CDs Message-ID: <20010421221914.X40225-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I want to duplicate an audio CD. The CD burner is ATAPI based so I have to use burncd (is that still the case?). The CD in question doesn't have any banding (that is there are no gaps between the tracks) so from what I read I think I need to use DAO mode which burncd doesn't support. As this is a duplication (the original CD was burnt by a burning "machine" rather than a computer which supported all sorts of funny tricks including DAO) I can get a a cd image using dd but how do I burn the image to another CD? If I use "burncd -f /dev/cdrom -s 8 audio cd.image fixate" I'm guessing it will just write it as one track rather than the several on the origianl CD? As the file would be a CD image should I use data instead of audio? Am I going down the wrong track? Thanks for your time, Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 5:32:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E63137B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 10387 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 12:32:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpu563) (195.229.53.55) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 12:32:17 -0000 Message-ID: <006c01c0ca5e$f4d1f170$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> From: "dotslash" To: , "Pim Bliek" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010421112232.00a7ada0@192.168.2.1> Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD ........ Can someone please create a seperate list for this DISCUSSION? Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:30:04 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG what you can do, and some ppl here are already doing, is read the subject and if it doesn't interest you just ignore it. you can either have a script do this for you (procmail is great) or some filtering that Eudora (which is what your using) can do. my 2cents. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pim Bliek" To: Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 1:25 PM Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD ........ Can someone please create a seperate list for this DISCUSSION? > Hi All, > > Maybe a nice discussion, but I feel it doesn't belong here. > And I'm getting quite annoyed by opening my email program and finding that > half of the new email is about this...... > > Maybe I'm wrong (please correct me if so), but I thought this list was > about questions, and answers, and that you were going to be shot if you > went of topic ;-) > > Pim > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 5:33:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E363537B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:33:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([fec0::2e0:7dff:fe81:749d] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qwZo-0006wv-00; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:33:24 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3LCXNA92187; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:33:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:33:23 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: andrew@ugh.net.au Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Duplicating Audio CDs Message-ID: <20010421133323.B42151@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20010421221914.X40225-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010421221914.X40225-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: > As this is a duplication (the original CD was burnt by a burning "machine" > rather than a computer which supported all sorts of funny tricks including > DAO) I can get a a cd image using dd but how do I burn the image to > another CD? > > If I use "burncd -f /dev/cdrom -s 8 audio cd.image fixate" I'm guessing it > will just write it as one track rather than the several on the origianl > CD? As the file would be a CD image should I use data instead of audio? I'm sure there's an easier way, but I've used the attached kludgy script successfully. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=copycd #!/bin/sh set -e SRC=/dev/acd1 DST=/dev/cdr TMPDIR=`mktemp -d /tmp/copycd.XXXXXXXXXX` cd $TMPDIR tracks=`cdcontrol -f $SRC info | awk '$6 == "audio" {print $1}'` fifos="" for i in $tracks; do fifos="$fifos fifo$i" done mkfifo $fifos (sleep 3; burncd -q -s 2 -f $DST audio $fifos fixate) & for i in $tracks; do echo Copying track $i... dd if=${SRC}t$i of=fifo$i bs=2352 2>output || { cat output false } done echo Written tracks, fixating CD... wait test $? = 0 echo Done. rm $fifos output cd / rmdir $TMPDIR --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 5:42:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB74D37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:42:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 10436 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 12:42:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpu563) (195.229.53.55) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 12:42:41 -0000 Message-ID: <007e01c0ca60$69f61520$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> From: "dotslash" To: "fq" Subject: you are forced to 4.3-R Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:40:52 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well after trying for several days to update 4.2-R to 4.2-S i think i'll just forget about it and just use 4.3-R. why did i say that? using "tag=RELENG_4_2_0_RELEASE" just hangs there no matter which cvsup server i use but as soon as i change the tag to "RELENG_4" it's now updating my sources tree without let up! oh well, like they said in the faq, nobody's perfect (or something like that). on the side note, i've been checking the docs and there's no equivalent of the ports' refuse file for /usr/src. would be great to have one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 5:46:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2432037B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:46:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([fec0::2e0:7dff:fe81:749d] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qwmG-0008Zc-00; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:46:16 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3LCkGJ41248; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:46:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:46:16 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: dotslash Cc: fq Subject: Re: you are forced to 4.3-R Message-ID: <20010421134615.C42151@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <007e01c0ca60$69f61520$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <007e01c0ca60$69f61520$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dotslash wrote: > well after trying for several days to update 4.2-R to 4.2-S i think i'll > just forget about it and just use 4.3-R. why did i say that? using > "tag=RELENG_4_2_0_RELEASE" just hangs there no matter which cvsup server i > use but as soon as i change the tag to "RELENG_4" it's now updating my > sources tree without let up! I don't quite see the problem. If you use RELENG_4 what did you expect it to do? It's supposed to update your source tree. If you use RELENG_4_2_0_RELEASE when you've already got 4.2-R sources it obviously won't do much since there aren't many differences between 4.2-RELEASE and 4-2.RELEASE. > on the side note, i've been checking the docs and there's no equivalent of > the ports' refuse file for /usr/src. would be great to have one. The refuse file is a cvsup thing, there's no reason you can't use one for /usr/src. RTFM cvsup(1), there's a very good section in there about refuse files. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 5:52:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtpg.casema.net (smtpg.casema.net [195.96.96.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C91D37B43F for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:52:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from walter@binity.com) Received: (qmail 22875 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 2001 12:52:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO slash.b118.binity.net) (212.64.76.168) by smtpg.casema.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 12:52:21 -0000 Received: from tsunami.b118.binity.net (tsunami.b118.binity.net [172.18.3.10]) by slash.b118.binity.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BADA12B for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:51:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tsunami.b118.binity.net ([1.0.0.1]) by tsunami.b118.binity.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.1600); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:54:53 +0200 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:54:52 +0200 From: Walter Hop X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Educational X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <198826702.20010421145452@binity.com> To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Software router dimensions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2001 12:54:53.0061 (UTC) FILETIME=[42145B50:01C0CA62] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi *, I was wondering what the dimensions should be for a software router. For now, I would like to move around 400GB on a daily basis; this might double in a year. Would a FreeBSD software router be up to the task? thanks, w. -- Walter Hop | +31 6 24290808 | PGP key ID: 0x84813998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 5:55:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31A937B422; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:55:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0C009A81C; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:55:17 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F225488; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:55:17 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:55:16 +1000 (EST) From: To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Subject: Re: Duplicating Audio CDs In-Reply-To: <20010421133323.B42151@scientia.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20010421224351.F40225-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Ben Smithurst wrote: > I'm sure there's an easier way, but I've used the attached kludgy script > successfully. It didn't leave 2 second gaps between the tracks? It looks like it avoids having to copy the audio tracks but alas I only have on CD device so I have to do that anyway. I didn't know about the track devices (/dev/acd1t?) though...thats very cool. Thanks, Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 6: 0:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B255537B42C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:00:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 10515 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 13:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpu563) (195.229.53.55) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 13:00:35 -0000 Message-ID: <009801c0ca62$e9e94ac0$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> From: "dotslash" To: "Ben Smithurst" Cc: "fq" References: <007e01c0ca60$69f61520$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> <20010421134615.C42151@scientia.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: you are forced to 4.3-R Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:58:55 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Smithurst" To: "dotslash" Cc: "fq" Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 4:46 PM Subject: Re: you are forced to 4.3-R > I don't quite see the problem. If you use RELENG_4 what did you expect > it to do? It's supposed to update your source tree. If you use > RELENG_4_2_0_RELEASE when you've already got 4.2-R sources it obviously > won't do much since there aren't many differences between 4.2-RELEASE > and 4-2.RELEASE. RTFMail, it says there 4.2-R(elease) to 4.2-S(table). that's what i want to do. > The refuse file is a cvsup thing, there's no reason you can't use one > for /usr/src. RTFM cvsup(1), there's a very good section in there about > refuse files. > ok missed that FM. will do. :-P To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 6: 6:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491FD37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:06:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([fec0::2e0:7dff:fe81:749d] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qx5e-000ERd-00; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:06:18 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3LD6HI90939; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:06:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:06:17 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: dotslash Cc: fq Subject: Re: you are forced to 4.3-R Message-ID: <20010421140617.D42151@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <007e01c0ca60$69f61520$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> <20010421134615.C42151@scientia.demon.co.uk> <009801c0ca62$e9e94ac0$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <009801c0ca62$e9e94ac0$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dotslash wrote: > RTFMail, it says there 4.2-R(elease) to 4.2-S(table). that's what i want to > do. There isn't a 4.2-STABLE any more, it's 4.3-STABLE now, but now I'm splitting hairs.... If you just cvsup RELENG_4 you'll always get the latest 4.x, no matter what the version number and name is (it's called -RC just before a release). I'm still not quite sure what aspect of cvsupping the RELENG_4 branch is causing a problem for you though, perhaps I'm just being dense. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 6: 8: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC9937B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([fec0::2e0:7dff:fe81:749d] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qx78-000FEt-00; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:07:50 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3LD7om97156; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:07:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:07:50 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: andrew@ugh.net.au Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Duplicating Audio CDs Message-ID: <20010421140750.E42151@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20010421133323.B42151@scientia.demon.co.uk> <20010421224351.F40225-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010421224351.F40225-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: > It didn't leave 2 second gaps between the tracks? It looks like it > avoids having to copy the audio tracks but alas I only have on CD device > so I have to do that anyway. Oh, err, maybe not, but it worked well enough when I wanted to copy a CD for a friend at least. Or rather he hasn't come back complaining the end result isn't good enough. :-) I haven't actually used the script much to copy CDs for myself. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 6:16:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from david.i.communique.no (ppp235.uio.no [129.240.240.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D03DE37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:16:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from are.bryne@communique.no) Received: (qmail 6941 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Apr 2001 13:17:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 13:17:12 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:17:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Are Bryne To: FreeBSD questions list Cc: Are Bryne Subject: AIC-7880 on HP Vectra XU 6/150 not found Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am having problems getting an AIC-7880 SCSI chip discovered at installation of FreeBSD 4.3-RC3. The computer is an HP Vectra XU 6/150. The chip is simply not found during the probe. Does anyone know what the problem might be? Thanks in advance. Regards, Are To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 6:16:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C99637B42C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:16:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3LDE3p30401; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:14:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <002201c0ca64$d1567b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Doug Young" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , "Gerry Freymann" , References: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle> <20010420221800.A7521@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle> <20010421010603.A9128@xor.obsecurity.org> <006201c0ca56$79b46e80$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <001001c0ca59$296a0d10$b88e093d@oracle> Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:13:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > How is this wrong? I've been running a firewall machine with PPPoE for > some time configured this way. 'options NETGRAPH' needs to be present, but > any component of netgraph that isn't statically linked in the kernel will be > loaded dynamically from the set of modules in /modules. > > > > As I stated in an earlier message, the non-inclusion of the additional lines > results in error messages when pppoe starts. If the handbook specified that > ALL the lines should be included then there wouldn't be a problem. I've sent > in a PR ?? re the issue. But you only get a message when a) the appropriate modules aren't statically linked and b) the required modules aren't present. If you're not cutting corners when making a kernel (and installing it), then you should have all the modules, so you should never have a problem with this -- regardless of whether the "additional lines" are included in the kernel config or not. Because of this, I don't consider it to be a bug, but rather, it's similar to attempting to use sound devices without making the requisite entires in /dev -- you can't expect it to work properly with half of the pieces missing. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 6:19: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5EECE37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:19:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 10630 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 13:18:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpu563) (195.229.53.55) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 13:18:58 -0000 Message-ID: <00c601c0ca65$7b24a280$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> From: "dotslash" To: "Ben Smithurst" Cc: "fq" References: <007e01c0ca60$69f61520$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> <20010421134615.C42151@scientia.demon.co.uk> <009801c0ca62$e9e94ac0$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> <20010421140617.D42151@scientia.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: you are forced to 4.3-R Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:17:18 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG you're fine man. i'm just deep into releng4.freebsd.org so i think that's where i got confused. one has to use the floppies in releng4.freebsd.org and use *that* server for installation for 4.2-STABLE. what i did was installed from a 4.2-RELEASE CD and was trying to get to 4.2-STABLE using those tags i mentioned earlier. anyway, happy fbsd'ing! regards, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Smithurst" To: "dotslash" Cc: "fq" Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: Re: you are forced to 4.3-R > dotslash wrote: > > > RTFMail, it says there 4.2-R(elease) to 4.2-S(table). that's what i want to > > do. > > There isn't a 4.2-STABLE any more, it's 4.3-STABLE now, but now I'm > splitting hairs.... If you just cvsup RELENG_4 you'll always get the > latest 4.x, no matter what the version number and name is (it's called > -RC just before a release). I'm still not quite sure what aspect of > cvsupping the RELENG_4 branch is causing a problem for you though, > perhaps I'm just being dense. > > -- > Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 6:40: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC3537B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@uunet.co.za) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 14qxcI-0002fv-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:40:02 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id PAA02455 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:40:00 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 2341; Sat Apr 21 15:39:05 2001 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qxbM-000O51-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:39:04 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Detecting mail client capabilities Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:39:04 +0200 Message-ID: <92566.987860344@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> From: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I'm embarrassed to ask this, but the folks I'm doing some work for insist that it's possible, so here goes... Is there teechnology available that allows one to determine what the rendering capabilities of a customers e-mail client are without the customer having explicitly sent one mail from that client? My employer's confirmation process for their opt-in mailing list requires the customer to click on a web URL within their mail message. When they hit that URL, confirmation is registered. So there are many customers from whom we will never actually receive a mail message. Hence the question. Please don't flame me too much. In my mind, this is impossible, but I did undertake to confirm my suspicions. As I said, my employer insists that this is possible, mostly because the company that handled their mass-mailing for them before told them that this was part of the service they were paying for. Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 6:50:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bryden.apana.org.au (bryden.apana.org.au [203.3.126.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C2137B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:50:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@bryden.apana.org.au) Received: from oracle (CPE-61-9-140-184.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.140.184]) by bryden.apana.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA10052; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:46:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@bryden.apana.org.au) Message-ID: <003e01c0ca69$8e483e90$b88e093d@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Matthew Emmerton" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , "Gerry Freymann" , References: <001301c0c9fd$47740ab0$328e093d@oracle> <20010420221800.A7521@xor.obsecurity.org> <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle> <20010421010603.A9128@xor.obsecurity.org> <006201c0ca56$79b46e80$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <001001c0ca59$296a0d10$b88e093d@oracle> <002201c0ca64$d1567b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:46:59 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > But you only get a message when a) the appropriate modules aren't statically linked and b) the required modules aren't present. If you're not cutting corners when making a kernel (and installing it), then you should have all the modules, so you should never have a problem with this -- regardless of whether the "additional lines" are included in the kernel config or not. > > Because of this, I don't consider it to be a bug, but rather, it's similar > to attempting to use sound devices without making the requisite entires in > /dev -- you can't expect it to work properly with half of the pieces > missing. > > -- many of us wouldn't recognize a "statically linked module" if attacked by one in a dark street !!! ..... surely its better to explain things properly in the first place to stop this sort of error message happening ?? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 7:17:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp08.iafrica.com (smtp08.iafrica.com [196.2.51.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4C637B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ffkrz@iafrica.com) Received: from iafrica.com ([196.30.178.4]) by smtp08.iafrica.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0GC50005KBOIWR@smtp08.iafrica.com> for questions@freeBSD.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:17:07 +0200 (SAT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:17:34 +0200 From: Francois Kritzinger Subject: Setting up printer in freeBSD 4.2 To: freeBSD mailing list Message-id: <3AE1967E.EA67FB55@iafrica.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have read the freeBSD handbook, and followed their instructions. I have an HP deskjet 710C on freeBSD 4.2. I added the lines from the handbook into my kernel configuration file, but I got an error: "config: syntax error on line xx" which was obviously the line I added. When freeBSD boots up it sees the printer and also the fact that is is on ppbus0 and on lpt0. So in other words I don't know how to make my printer work... Any tips? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 7:22: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nic-naa.net (dt0b4n5b.maine.rr.com [24.95.12.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9526937B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:22:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Received: from nic-naa.net (localhost.maine.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by nic-naa.net (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3LELVL00834; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:21:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brunner@nic-naa.net) Message-Id: <200104211421.f3LELVL00834@nic-naa.net> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: brunner@nic-naa.net Subject: printcap (or something else) 4.2-STABLE, HP LaserJet 1100 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:21:31 -0400 From: Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I seem to have missed something in the handbook, help would be nice, and I've subscribed to freebsd-questions to keep response easy and list-directed. Anything else needed? Thanks in Advance, Eric uname 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD dmesg fragment ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: PRINTER MLC,PCL,PJL lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 plip0: on ppbus0 printcap fragment worm|lp|HP Laserjet 1100 printer:\ :sh:sd=/var/spool/lpd/worm:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ :if=/usr/local/libexec/if-simple:\ :lf=/var/log/worm.log:mx#0: spool dirs and perms: drwxr-xr-x 9 root wheel 512 Apr 21 09:51 /var/spool drwxr-xr-x 3 root daemon 512 Apr 19 16:15 /var/spool/lpd drwxrwx--- 2 daemon daemon 512 Apr 19 16:15 /var/spool/lpd/worm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 7:37:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.ny.otec.com (mx1.ny.otec.com [209.3.117.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34CF237B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:37:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelley@otec.com) Received: (qmail 27798 invoked by uid 8064); 21 Apr 2001 15:23:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 15:23:11 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:23:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Kelley X-Sender: dkelley@mx1.ny.otec.com To: Andrew Hesford Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: GCC and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20010420005012.A95149@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > Two questions, the second one a little off-topic, but bear with me: > > 1) If GCC didn't exist, what compiler would FreeBSD contain? > > 2) Since all my programming has been on UNIX systems with GCC, I have no > idea how GCC compares to other compilers. Is it a good one, a mediocre > one, or just the only thing we've got? on average, sacrifices some speed for consistency of interface across platforms. example: our SUNWspro cc compiled code runs about 10-12% faster on SPARCs than if we had compiled with gcc. > > Thanks. > -- > Andrew Hesford > ajh3@chmod.ath.cx > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 7:39:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mss.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au (ha1.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au [203.164.2.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFDA37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:39:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aussie123@optushome.com.au) Received: from co3033516a ([203.164.170.200]) by mss.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010421143909.LBPQ13554.mss.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au@co3033516a> for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:39:09 +1000 Message-ID: <005101c0ca70$9eb84c00$c8aaa4cb@randw1.nsw.optushome.com.au> From: "Harold" To: Subject: Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:37:41 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C0CAC4.704BF200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C0CAC4.704BF200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable when is 4.3 out? ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C0CAC4.704BF200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
when is 4.3 out?
 
------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C0CAC4.704BF200-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 7:43:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6962237B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:43:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@markemmanuel.org) Received: from [147.126.50.163] (unknown [147.126.50.163]) by smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DFF7812 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:43:15 -0500 (CDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 09:45:05 +0800 Subject: Re: Gaming on FreeBSD... From: markemmanuel To: "Questions freebsd.org" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any information on the FreeBSD site regarding this and is there info at other websites? Thanks. markemmanuel Quoted from the Book of joeo@cracktown.com Ch 6:7-13 on 4/21/01 12:31 PM: > Myth2 runs, as does Unreal Tournament and Quake3. The latter two may > require a bit of work to get a 3d accelerator card running. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 8:27:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from iteso.mx (iteso.mx [148.201.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707E237B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:27:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@iteso.mx) Received: from eric (customer11-181.telmex.net.mx [148.233.11.181] (may be forged)) by iteso.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id JAA00676; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:27:27 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: iteso.mx: Host customer11-181.telmex.net.mx [148.233.11.181] (may be forged) claimed to be eric Message-ID: <00e301c0ca6f$58c72280$4d011c0a@delacruz.avis.com.mx> Reply-To: "Eric De La Cruz Lugo" From: "Eric De La Cruz Lugo" To: "mamena@wol.es" , References: <001a01c0ca4e$05e49460$e93607d4@central> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_Esclavo_de_su_p=E1gina?= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:28:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C0CA45.6F2936A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C0CA45.6F2936A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Buenos d=EDas/tardes/noches: El mail que usted envi=F3 el d=EDa de hoy, fu=E9 recibido en una lista = de distribuci=F3n de correo electr=F3nico para usuarios del sistema = operativo FreeBSD, la lista en el 99% de sus lectores est=E1 en indioma = ingles americano, por lo que se puede observar en su mensaje, usted = tiene quizas menos de 4 a=F1os usando sistemas de correo electr=F3nico, = de lo contrario usted ya estar=EDa al tanto de que si le enviaron un = mensaje contienedo la pagina web del sitio de FreeBSD solo necesita = borrar ese mensaje de su sistema de correo electr=F3nico, evidentemente = usted tal vez no sepa que es FreeBSD (es un sistema operativo totalmente = diferente de Windows), como consecuencia l=F3gica usted es si no me = equivoco un usuario de un sistema Windows, un mensaje de correo = electr=F3nico conteniendo una pagina web lo unico que hace es abrir = dicha pagina en un browser como Internet Explorer, si no quiere ver esa = pagina simplemente borre el mail que contiene dicha referencia a la = p=E1gina, ah! una cosa mas, podria indicarnos quien fue el remitente que = le mando esa pagina web? seria de gran ayuda para determinar quien se la = envi=F3 originalmente y pueda emprender acciones contra esa persona en = particular y no contra los titulares de la p=E1gina web, que no tienen = ningun tipo de responsabilidad aqui, sin mencionar que el mail que usted = envi=F3 demuestra en gran medida su falta de conocimiento en cuanto como = funcionan los servicios b=E1sicos de comunicaci=F3n en Internet, le = recomendamos ampliamente que la proxima vez recurra al soporte tecnico = de su proveedor de acceso a Internet en espa=F1a antes de enviar este = tipo de mensajes a una lista de correo leida por mas de 100,000 personas = alrededor del mundo. De por sentado que a varios que conocen el idioma espa=F1ol en esta = lista les resultar=E1 sumamente ofensivo el tono de su mensaje. saludos! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mamena@wol.es=20 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 5:29 AM Subject: Esclavo de su p=E1gina Me han enviado por e mail su p=E1gina de internet, y desde que abr=ED = el correo electr=F3nico estoy esclavo de su p=E1gina, impidi=E9ndome = navegar por internet con normalidad. Espero que al recibir este mensaje, = me env=EDen la soluci=F3n del problema, reserv=E1ndome el derecho de = emprender acciones judiciales contra los titulares de la web. ------=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C0CA45.6F2936A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Buenos = d=EDas/tardes/noches:
 
El mail que usted envi=F3 el d=EDa de = hoy, fu=E9 recibido=20 en una lista de distribuci=F3n de correo electr=F3nico para usuarios del = sistema=20 operativo FreeBSD, la lista en el 99% de sus lectores est=E1 en indioma = ingles=20 americano, por lo que se puede observar en su mensaje, usted tiene = quizas menos=20 de 4 a=F1os usando sistemas de correo electr=F3nico, de lo contrario = usted ya=20 estar=EDa al tanto de que si le enviaron un mensaje contienedo la pagina = web del=20 sitio de FreeBSD solo necesita borrar ese mensaje de su sistema de = correo=20 electr=F3nico, evidentemente usted tal vez no sepa que es FreeBSD (es un = sistema=20 operativo totalmente diferente de Windows), como consecuencia l=F3gica = usted es si=20 no me equivoco un usuario de un sistema Windows, un mensaje de correo=20 electr=F3nico conteniendo una pagina web lo unico que hace es abrir = dicha pagina=20 en un browser como Internet Explorer, si no quiere ver esa pagina = simplemente=20 borre el mail que contiene dicha referencia a la p=E1gina, ah! una cosa = mas,=20 podria indicarnos quien fue el remitente que le mando esa pagina web? = seria de=20 gran ayuda para determinar quien se la envi=F3 originalmente y pueda = emprender=20 acciones contra esa persona en particular y no contra los titulares de = la p=E1gina=20 web, que no tienen ningun tipo de responsabilidad aqui, sin mencionar = que el=20 mail que usted envi=F3 demuestra en gran medida su falta de conocimiento = en cuanto=20 como funcionan los servicios b=E1sicos de comunicaci=F3n en Internet, le = recomendamos ampliamente que la proxima vez recurra al soporte tecnico = de su=20 proveedor de acceso a Internet en espa=F1a antes de enviar este tipo de = mensajes a=20 una lista de correo leida por mas de 100,000 personas alrededor del=20 mundo.
De por sentado que a varios que conocen = el idioma=20 espa=F1ol en esta lista les resultar=E1 sumamente ofensivo el tono de su = mensaje.
 
saludos!
 
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Me han enviado por e mail su p=E1gina = de internet,=20 y desde que abr=ED el correo electr=F3nico estoy esclavo de su = p=E1gina,=20 impidi=E9ndome navegar por internet con normalidad. Espero que al = recibir este=20 mensaje, me env=EDen la soluci=F3n del problema, reserv=E1ndome el = derecho de=20 emprender acciones judiciales contra los titulares de la=20 web.
------=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C0CA45.6F2936A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 8:27:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from earth.wnm.net (earth.wnm.net [208.246.240.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEC637B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:27:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@wnm.net) Received: from localhost (alex@localhost) by earth.wnm.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3LFTrB77257; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:29:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:29:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Alex Charalabidis To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Subject: Re: Detecting mail client capabilities In-Reply-To: <92566.987860344@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I'm embarrassed to ask this, but the folks I'm doing some work for > insist that it's possible, so here goes... > > Is there teechnology available that allows one to determine what the > rendering capabilities of a customers e-mail client are without the > customer having explicitly sent one mail from that client? > > My employer's confirmation process for their opt-in mailing list > requires the customer to click on a web URL within their mail message. > When they hit that URL, confirmation is registered. > From what I understand, there is an HTTP transaction involved before the subscription. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding. This has potential. I suppose you could extract user agent, system and display information from the HTTP request--all those javascript-enabled web browsers volunteer plenty of information--and use the data to make an educated guess which will be correct 98% of the time. That's the sort of "high technology" I suspect powers the miracle of modern computing this other company claims to have. But then I may be wrong and they could have found the Programmer's Stone. -ac -- =================================================================== Alex Charalabidis Worldspice Technologies 5050 Poplar Ave. Memphis, TN, USA +1 901 432 6000 Opinions expressed are mine alone but may be yours for a small fee. =================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 8:28:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D26D37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:28:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3LFPYn94342 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:25:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200104211525.f3LFPYn94342@fac13.ds.psu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mh comp not including .signature From: "Richard E. Hawkins" Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:25:34 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For some reason, mh no longer includes my signature when mailing from the command line with comp, repl, and forw. I've edited ~/Mail/components to include a From: line, if this makes a difference. I've also tried adding Signature: ~/.signature to this file. The full file is: To: Subject: From: Richard E. Hawkins -------- According to everything I'm reading, it should work. Using mail from the command line also fails to provide a sig, but exmh does include it. ideas? hawk, stumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 8:31:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB29937B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:31:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@uunet.co.za) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 14qzMB-0003Ix-00; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:31:31 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id RAA15723; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:31:29 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 15717; Sat Apr 21 17:31:25 2001 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qzM5-000F4D-00; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:31:25 +0200 To: Alex Charalabidis Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Detecting mail client capabilities In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:29:53 EST." Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:31:25 +0200 Message-ID: <57914.987867085@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> From: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:29:53 EST, Alex Charalabidis wrote: > I suppose you could extract user agent, system and display information > from the HTTP request--all those javascript-enabled web browsers > volunteer plenty of information--and use the data to make an educated > guess which will be correct 98% of the time. This is what I suggested to my employers, who're insisting that there's some other "e-mail sniffer" that you "send to the client" that isn't what I'm suggesting. :-) > That's the sort of "high technology" I suspect powers the miracle of > modern computing this other company claims to have. But then I may be > wrong and they could have found the Programmer's Stone. In the mass-mailing industry? ;-) Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 8:38: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (sirius-giga.rz.uni-ulm.de [134.60.246.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106A937B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:38:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from siegbert.baude@gmx.de) Received: from gmx.de (lilith.wohnheim.uni-ulm.de [134.60.106.64]) by mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22346 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:37:59 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <3AE1A969.B035E51E@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:38:17 +0200 From: Siegbert Baude X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: NO_X in /etc/defaults/make.conf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, in /etc/defaults/make.conf there is an option "NO_X". Do I want or need this, if I'm using the ports version of XFree 4.03 ? Would it destroy anything, if set to TRUE ? BTW, I already have XFREE86_VERSION=4 in /etc/make.conf . Ciao Siegbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 8:39:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from arena.delfi.lv (mail.parks.lv [195.2.96.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CBD37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from warrior@mailbox.riga.lv) Received: from themAn (rev-166.PLV01.delfi.lv [195.114.47.166] (may be forged)) by arena.delfi.lv (8.9.3/8.9.1/OL.cf-3.1) with SMTP id SAA24140 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:39:42 +0300 Message-ID: <001901c0ca79$4bf25480$a62f72c3@themAn> From: "uwi mAn" To: Subject: freebsd 4.3 iso Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:39:43 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0CA92.6ED40AC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0CA92.6ED40AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Post the links [working ones] please....! thanks ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0CA92.6ED40AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C0CA92.6ED40AC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 8:40:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BB137B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:40:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js43064n@pace.edu) Received: from darkstar.nyc.rr.com ([24.29.134.143]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:44:36 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jonathan M.Slivko To: "uwi mAn" , Subject: Re: freebsd 4.3 iso Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:40:47 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <001901c0ca79$4bf25480$a62f72c3@themAn> In-Reply-To: <001901c0ca79$4bf25480$a62f72c3@themAn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042111404700.05246@darkstar.nyc.rr.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ftp2.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/ should have them. -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Saturday 21 April 2001 10:39, uwi mAn wrote: > Post the links [working ones] please....! > > thanks ---------------------------------------- Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: ---------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 8:42:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA75C37B43C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:42:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from localhost (freymann@localhost) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3LFgXc64153; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:42:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:42:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerry Freymann To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic In-Reply-To: <20010420221901.B7521@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > So I'm looking at it, and "optionally" it says you can add > > options NETGRAPH_PPPOE > > If you don't have it statically compiled in, it tries to kldload the > module. If you have an out of date module (i.e. not built from the > same kernel sources), it can panic your machine. Naw, I cvsup'd the latest source on Thur or Fri and did a complete world and kernel build, so that shouldn't be the problem at all. Like you said, it should be a pretty simple thing, but alas, not for me :-( -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Gerry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 8:47: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F22537B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:47:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from localhost (freymann@localhost) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3LFlFa64706; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:47:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:47:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerry Freymann To: Doug Young Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic In-Reply-To: <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Doug Young wrote: > config files except ppp.conf. eg what happens with r.conf, what IP addresses > are to be > assigned to the two NICs, what goes in resolv.conf / ppp.linkup / etc ?? I was using other reference material for the config files. either at mostgraveconcern or the freebsddiary ;-) > According to the official docs, all that needs to be added to the kernel > config file is "options > NETGRAPH" ... however that is a sure way to get error messages on boot > "module_register: module netgraph already exists! > linker_file_sysinit "netgraph.ko" failed to register! 17" Yep, I've seen that one ;-) > In other words, these are the options that you will need to obviate the > need to load any modules. > > options NETGRAPH > options NETGRAPH_ETHER > options NETGRAPH_PPPOE > options NETGRAPH_SOCKET The first time I tried PPPoE I had all four of them in the kernel config and it still panicked. I've probably rolled at least 6 kernels trying to get this to work. I just may end up saying screw it. Almost a week later and I've yet to see PPPoE working. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gerry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 8:51: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3BB37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:51:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Received: from localhost (freymann@localhost) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3LFpJf65261; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:51:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freymann@eagle.ca) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:51:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerry Freymann To: Doug Young Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE causes a Kernel Panic In-Reply-To: <00a001c0ca24$f7354230$328e093d@oracle> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Doug Young wrote: > In other words, these are the options that you will need to obviate the > need to load any modules. > > options NETGRAPH > options NETGRAPH_ETHER > options NETGRAPH_PPPOE > options NETGRAPH_SOCKET Actually, upon checking, I only had 3 of the 4. So if I read the later replies correctly, I need all 4 of these in the kernel, and voila? Well, other than the config files.... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gerry -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 8:54: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nova.sparklist.com (nova.sparklist.com [207.250.144.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3ACC37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sparklist-admin@nova.sparklist.com) Message-Id: X-sparklist-type: unsubscribed From: "SparkLIST.com" Reply-To: "SparkLIST.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your unsubscribe request Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:55:57 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As you requested, you have been unsubscribed from 'fwd-newswire'. --- Return-Path: Received: from mailhost.sparknet.net ([207.67.22.123]) by nova.sparklist.com with SMTP (SparkLIST.com WIN32 version 4.1); 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Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi.. Im trying to install a Osprey 100 video capture card in a Linux BOx... Anybody know what kind of tuner has this card? and the kind of sound module? Thank you ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 9:24: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D1E37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:23:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3LGKun09926 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:20:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200104211620.f3LGKun09926@fac13.ds.psu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, dochawk@psu.edu Subject: a working irc server? From: "Richard E. Hawkins" Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:20:56 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to install a working irc server by this evening, and not having much luck. irc itself seems to be missign from the packages collection at the moment. In the ports collection, it doesn't build: it first reports that sed: /usr/ports/irc/irc/files/ircd.sh: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Not surpising; there shouldn't be anything there. So in desparation, I symlinked work to files, and it builds for a while, until cc -O -pipe -I/usr/local/v6/include -I. -I../ircd -I../common -c -o res.o ../ircd/res.c ../ircd/res.c: In function `proc_answer': ../ircd/res.c:591: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' ../ircd/res.c:591: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' ../ircd/res.c:591: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' ../ircd/res.c:592: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' ../ircd/res.c:670: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' ../ircd/res.c:670: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' ../ircd/res.c:671: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' ../ircd/res.c:672: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' *** Error code 1 help! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 9:25:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E70937B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js43064n@pace.edu) Received: from darkstar.nyc.rr.com ([24.29.134.143]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:29:40 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jonathan M.Slivko To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, dochawk@psu.edu Subject: Re: a working irc server? Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:25:51 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <200104211620.f3LGKun09926@fac13.ds.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200104211620.f3LGKun09926@fac13.ds.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042112255101.00774@darkstar.nyc.rr.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try getting the package? It's already compiled. That should solve the problem :) -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Saturday 21 April 2001 11:20, you wrote: > I'm trying to install a working irc server by this evening, and not > having much luck. irc itself seems to be missign from the > packages collection at the moment. In the ports collection, > it doesn't build: it first reports that > > sed: /usr/ports/irc/irc/files/ircd.sh: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > > Not surpising; there shouldn't be anything there. So in desparation, > I symlinked work to files, and it builds for a while, until > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/local/v6/include -I. -I../ircd -I../common -c -o res.o > ../ircd/res.c ../ircd/res.c: In function `proc_answer': > ../ircd/res.c:591: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' > ../ircd/res.c:591: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' > ../ircd/res.c:591: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' > ../ircd/res.c:592: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' > ../ircd/res.c:670: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' > ../ircd/res.c:670: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' > ../ircd/res.c:671: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' > ../ircd/res.c:672: structure has no member named `s6_addr32' > *** Error code 1 > > > help! > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 9:27:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1188737B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 73ADBA924; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:26:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:26:36 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: andrew@ugh.net.au Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Duplicating Audio CDs Message-ID: <20010421112635.A4847@cec.wustl.edu> References: <20010421221914.X40225-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010421221914.X40225-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au>; from andrew@ugh.net.au on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 10:29:14PM +1000 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 10:29:14PM +1000, andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: > Hi, > > I want to duplicate an audio CD. The CD burner is ATAPI based so I have to > use burncd (is that still the case?). The CD in question doesn't have any > banding (that is there are no gaps between the tracks) so from what I read > I think I need to use DAO mode which burncd doesn't support. > > As this is a duplication (the original CD was burnt by a burning "machine" > rather than a computer which supported all sorts of funny tricks including > DAO) I can get a a cd image using dd but how do I burn the image to > another CD? > > If I use "burncd -f /dev/cdrom -s 8 audio cd.image fixate" I'm guessing it > will just write it as one track rather than the several on the origianl > CD? As the file would be a CD image should I use data instead of audio? > > Am I going down the wrong track? > > Thanks for your time, > > Andrew Hey, another Andrew. :) I can tell most of you tend toward CS, making large, complicated scripts or other excessive solutions. :p Make an image of the audio CD in quesiton with dd, then write it as a data disc: burncd -f /dev/cdrom -s 8 data image.iso fixate I should think that would work, maintaining the perfect image of the audio CD. You may not be able to manipulate things, but you can copy. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 9:32:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tethys.valhalla.net (tethys.valhalla.net [195.26.32.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4E237B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:32:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@tethys.valhalla.net) Received: by tethys.valhalla.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id E3CFD32E80; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:32:08 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:32:08 +0100 From: Mark Drayton To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a working irc server? Message-ID: <20010421173208.A14242@tethys.valhalla.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200104211620.f3LGKun09926@fac13.ds.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104211620.f3LGKun09926@fac13.ds.psu.edu>; from dochawk@psu.edu on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 12:20:56PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Richard E. Hawkins (dochawk@psu.edu) wrote: > I'm trying to install a working irc server by this evening, and not > having much luck. irc itself seems to be missign from the > packages collection at the moment. In the ports collection, I've recently installed ircd-hybrid from the ports which built fine. /usr/ports/irc/ircd-hybrid/ Hope this helps -- Mark Drayton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 9:35:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190ED37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:35:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A7005A924; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:34:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:34:56 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: XWindows and Intel i810 Message-ID: <20010421113456.B4936@cec.wustl.edu> References: <20010421145908.A42112@everest.wananchi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010421145908.A42112@everest.wananchi.com>; from wash@wananchi.com on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 02:59:08PM +0300 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 02:59:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Is there anyone who's successfully used X with this card - i810 ?? > > TX > > -Wash > > -- > Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., > wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse > Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., > Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. > > Don't kiss an elephant on the lips today. Yes... use the ports version of XFree86 4.0.1. Newer versions do not work--switching consoles will cause X to crash, and in my case, it won't work right until reboot. Your best bet is grabbing a 4.2-RELEASE ports tree and building it there. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 9:37: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB37F37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:37:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3LGWmn10211; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:32:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200104211632.f3LGWmn10211@fac13.ds.psu.edu> To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a working irc server? Reply-To: dochawk@psu.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:25:51 CDT." <01042112255101.00774@darkstar.nyc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:32:48 -0400 From: "~/.signature" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John jabbered, > Try getting the package? It's already compiled. That should solve the problem > :) Except for one minor detail: it doesn't seem to be there: /pub/FreeBSD/branches/4.0-stable/packages/irc directory (p1 of 2) Current directory is /pub/FreeBSD/branches/4.0-stable/packages/irc [1]Up to packages Mar 23 11:59 Symbolic Link [2]BitchX-1.0c18.tgz Apr 1 2000 Symbolic Link [3]blackened-1.7.1.tgz Jun 1 2000 Symbolic Link [4]bnc-2.8.2.tgz Mar 15 12:32 Symbolic Link [5]dircproxy-1.0.0.tgz Apr 9 10:20 Symbolic Link [6]epic4-1.0.tgz Jan 30 08:28 Symbolic Link [7]ezbounce-0.99.11.tgz Feb 22 08:35 Symbolic Link [8]infobot-0.44.5.tgz Apr 9 10:20 Symbolic Link [9]irc-transport-0.1b-1.40.tgz Sep 15 2000 Symbolic Link [10]ircatlite-2000.03.08.tgz Jan 16 07:50 Symbolic Link [11]ircii-4.4Z.tgz Dec 4 08:51 Symbolic Link [12]iroffer-1.1.1.tgz Apr 1 13:42 Symbolic Link [13]irssi-0.7.98.3.tgz Apr 9 10:20 Symbolic Link [14]ja-epic4-1.0.tgz it should be between infobot and irc-transport, but it isn't :( hawk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 9:50:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spitfire.velocet.net (spitfire.velocet.net [209.167.225.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9799B37B50D for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:50:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ddavid_3@yahoo.com) Received: from david.thecafe.ca (H130.C193.tor.velocet.net [216.138.193.130]) by spitfire.velocet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 82FD919A015 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:50:12 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: David Reply-To: ddavid_3@yahoo.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPPOE &ADSL on FreeBSD Tutorial Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:42:06 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042112420600.00300@david.thecafe.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have not fully read the present thread on PPPOE on FreeBSD, so I'm not sure if this is completely relevant, but this Tutorial has all the help I have ever needed for connecting up with PPPOE: http://renaud.waldura.com/doc/freebsd/pppoe/ Cheers All, David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 10: 8: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31A237B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:08:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11343; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:08:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:08:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200104211708.TAA11343@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Duplicating Audio CDs In-Reply-To: <20010421112635.A4847@cec.wustl.edu> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.1-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew Hesford wrote: > Make an image of the audio CD in quesiton with dd, then write it as a > data disc: > > burncd -f /dev/cdrom -s 8 data image.iso fixate > > I should think that would work, maintaining the perfect image of the > audio CD. I'm afraid not. If you say "data", it will make a CD-ROM (2048 bytes/sector), not an audio CD (2352 bytes/sector). The best solution is, of course, to buy a SCSI CD recorder and use tosha + cdrecord from the ports. ;) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 10:15:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.dynamic-cast.com (r175-5-dsl.sea.lightrealm.net [216.122.5.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E96437B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:15:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from herveyw@dynamic-cast.com) Received: from chillipepper (chillipepper.dynamic-cast.com [192.168.1.1]) by matrix.dynamic-cast.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3LHFQC49522; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from herveyw@dynamic-cast.com) Message-ID: <004501c0ca86$be65b9a0$0101a8c0@chillipepper> From: "Hervey Wilson" To: , References: <01042112420600.00300@david.thecafe.ca> Subject: Re: PPPOE &ADSL on FreeBSD Tutorial Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:16:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good article, but there's something I just don't understand. I have been using ADSL for over 2 years now with an external modem connected to an ethernet card in my server. I have used Windows 2000 Server, Redhat Linux 5.2, 6.0, 6.2, 7.0 and now FreeBSD 4.2, 4.3 on the server. At no time have I *ever* consciously used PPPoE to make the connection to my ISP. For every one of the operating systems above, I have configured the ethernet adapter to simply use IP. For the first year, I used DHCP to assign IP address and now I have a static IP address. No PPPoE anywhere. What gives with all this PPPoE ? Is there something I'm missing here ? Is it only needed for some DSL setups ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" To: Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 9:42 AM Subject: PPPOE &ADSL on FreeBSD Tutorial > > I have not fully read the present thread on PPPOE on FreeBSD, so I'm > not sure if this is completely relevant, but this Tutorial has all the > help I have ever needed for connecting up with PPPOE: > > http://renaud.waldura.com/doc/freebsd/pppoe/ > > Cheers All, > > David > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 10:23:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FF637B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:23:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graywane@home.com) Received: from michael.example.net ([65.2.79.221]) by femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010421172352.OETY6845.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@michael.example.net> for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:23:52 -0700 Received: (from graywane@localhost) by michael.example.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3LHNpn20271 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:23:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from graywane) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:23:51 -0400 From: Graywane To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Duplicating Audio CDs Message-ID: <20010421132351.A20250@home.com> References: <20010421112635.A4847@cec.wustl.edu> <200104211708.TAA11343@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104211708.TAA11343@lurza.secnetix.de>; from olli@secnetix.de on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 07:08:03PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 07:08:03PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > I'm afraid not. If you say "data", it will make a CD-ROM > (2048 bytes/sector), not an audio CD (2352 bytes/sector). >=20 > The best solution is, of course, to buy a SCSI CD recorder > and use tosha + cdrecord from the ports. ;) The earlier poster who suggested reading the /dev/acd0t? devices was correct. You can easily grab the songs you want from your CD collection, save them as files, and use burncd to create your audio CD. It may not be as convenient as programs like tosha and cdrecord but it works just as well. --=20 Note: See http://www.members.home.net/graywane/ for PGP information. --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrhwicACgkQeHdFaBWUGN02kwCgqdCsxSB7I7hbE814qyYg2FTC MdEAnj9CJT8UYX6za0AkDnT7oeuuUymr =owgS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 10:30:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spitfire.velocet.net (spitfire.velocet.net [209.167.225.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4124637B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:30:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ddavid_3@yahoo.com) Received: from david.thecafe.ca (H130.C193.tor.velocet.net [216.138.193.130]) by spitfire.velocet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 87D9F19A015; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: David Reply-To: ddavid_3@yahoo.com To: "Hervey Wilson" , Subject: Re: PPPOE &ADSL on FreeBSD Tutorial Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:22:37 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01042112420600.00300@david.thecafe.ca> <004501c0ca86$be65b9a0$0101a8c0@chillipepper> In-Reply-To: <004501c0ca86$be65b9a0$0101a8c0@chillipepper> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042113223701.00300@david.thecafe.ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday 21 April 2001 13:16, Hervey Wilson wrote: > At no time have I *ever* consciously used PPPoE to make the > connection to my ISP. For every one of the operating systems above, I > have configured the ethernet adapter to simply use IP. For the first > year, I used DHCP to assign IP address and now I have a static IP > address. No PPPoE anywhere. > > What gives with all this PPPoE ? Is there something I'm missing here > ? Is it only needed for some DSL setups ? When I first began using *DSL it was indeed just plain old DHCP through an external "modem", at some point in time approx. 1.5 years ago, ISP's ( at this time Sympatico for me) began using a login system called PPPOE which of coarse required the neccessary program to login with. Indeed, now many different *DSL providers, do provide different connection setup's, DHCP ( very rare now) PPPOE and, as with your setup, a straight IP connection. My present ISP, DSL.CA, provides 3 different setups', PPPOE, PPPOE with a static IP, and a straight IP address setup. ( mind, it's a $5 ca extra charge for the static IP) Mind you, if i may "basically" state, PPPOE is just another form of DHCP, but other technically orientated people may have a better description for it. If anything, I would say you are quite fortunate in not have to deal with PPPOE at all, especially in the initial implimentation :) David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 10:33:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www3.pacific-pages.com (www3.pacific-pages.com [192.41.48.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E8337B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:33:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@www3.pacific-pages.com) Received: from d.tracker ([216.191.61.246]) by www3.pacific-pages.com (8.8.5) id LAA22348; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:32:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3LHSS400375; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:28:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:26:32 -0400 From: David Banning To: Kent Stewart Cc: David Banning , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world error Message-ID: <20010421132631.A305@www3.pacific-pages.com> Reply-To: David Banning References: <20010420150921.A665@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE08EF5.2FD89711@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AE08EF5.2FD89711@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 12:33:09PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK so I have been trying different memory / bios setting according to the suggestions on the site you reccommended. Here is another question; Since my error occured in; /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl I go there and do a make, and get the same errors I did during the make world. I am just wondering if the signal 11 error "message" results from some error earlier in the make world compile. If the make I do for a test utilizes earlier files that are bad because of memory error, I'll never get my problem fixed! If I go to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl and do a make to test whether the change I made works or not, is that a propper check of whether the memory is fixed or not? The main issue here is speed. The web site mentions a memory test, which takes 24 hours on a pentium 100. That takes a long time when trying this, trying that.. with my memory, bios etc.. > David Banning wrote: > > > > One thing I don;t understand about cvsupping and then making world > > is why there would be errors; if cvsup is insuring that > > every bit of code is up to date, then everybody's code is the same > > right? So how would I get errors different than the next guy? > > Well, it probably means you have some piece of hardware that is flaky. Read > http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ and see if you can figure out what is causing > it. > > Kent > > > > > That said here is the errors of my most recent attempt; > > > > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl; make _EXTRADEPEND > > echo miniperl: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libm.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypt.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libutil.a >> .depend > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > > Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) > > Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) > > Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) > > Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 3) configuration: > > Platform: > > osname=freebsd, osvers=4.0-current, archname=i386-freebsd > > uname='FreeBSD freefall.FreeBSD.org 4.0-current FreeBSD 4.0-current #0: $Date$' > > hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define > > usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef > > Compiler: > > cc='cc', optimize='', gccversion=2.95.2 19991024 (release) > > cppflags='' > > ccflags ='' > > stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=undef, usevfork=true > > intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8 > > d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12 > > alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define > > Linker and Libraries: > > ld='cc', ldflags ='-Wl,-E -lperl -lm ' > > libpth=/usr/lib > > libs=-lm -lc -lcrypt > > libc=, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so.3 > > Dynamic Linking: > > dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' -Wl,-R/usr/lib' > > cccdlflags='-DPIC -fpic', lddlflags='-Wl,-E -shared -lperl -lm ' > > > > *** Signal 11 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > -- Nothing is illegal if one hundred businessmen decide to do it. -- Andrew Young To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 10:39: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7059037B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:38:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3LHakp31028; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:36:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <008c01c0ca89$86ad79a0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Hervey Wilson" , References: <01042112420600.00300@david.thecafe.ca> <004501c0ca86$be65b9a0$0101a8c0@chillipepper> Subject: Re: PPPOE &ADSL on FreeBSD Tutorial Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:35:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Good article, but there's something I just don't understand. I have been > using ADSL for over 2 years now with an external modem connected to an > ethernet card in my server. I have used Windows 2000 Server, Redhat Linux > 5.2, 6.0, 6.2, 7.0 and now FreeBSD 4.2, 4.3 on the server. > > At no time have I *ever* consciously used PPPoE to make the connection to my > ISP. For every one of the operating systems above, I have configured the > ethernet adapter to simply use IP. For the first year, I used DHCP to assign > IP address and now I have a static IP address. No PPPoE anywhere. > > What gives with all this PPPoE ? Is there something I'm missing here ? Is it > only needed for some DSL setups ? Yes. Some DSL ISPs use PPPoE, some use a DHCP setup like most Cable providers do. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 10:41:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.dynamic-cast.com (r175-5-dsl.sea.lightrealm.net [216.122.5.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433DF37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:41:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from herveyw@dynamic-cast.com) Received: from chillipepper (chillipepper.dynamic-cast.com [192.168.1.1]) by matrix.dynamic-cast.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3LHfgC50185; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:41:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from herveyw@dynamic-cast.com) Message-ID: <007c01c0ca8a$68bfed00$0101a8c0@chillipepper> From: "Hervey Wilson" To: , References: <01042112420600.00300@david.thecafe.ca> <004501c0ca86$be65b9a0$0101a8c0@chillipepper> <01042113223701.00300@david.thecafe.ca> Subject: Re: PPPOE &ADSL on FreeBSD Tutorial Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:42:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "David" > > My present ISP, DSL.CA, provides 3 different setups', PPPOE, PPPOE with > a static IP, and a straight IP address setup. ( mind, it's a $5 ca > extra charge for the static IP) Mind you, if i may "basically" state, > PPPOE is just another form of DHCP, but other technically orientated > people may have a better description for it. > > If anything, I would say you are quite fortunate in not have to deal > with PPPOE at all, especially in the initial implimentation :) > Thanks, I was beginning to think that it must be ISP specific. And yes, I do consider myself fortunate - configuration of my ADSL interface has always been trivial, no different than adding the machine to an IP network. One other comment: We see an awful lot of traffic on -questions about ADSL and PPPoE so your document is an excellent reference for people trying to do this. I would suggest, however, one amendment: a block at the start of the document that notes that not all ADSL connections are made the same and that the user should be sure theirs requires PPPoE. Thanks again for the clarification, H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 10:42:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx3out.umbc.edu (mx3out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC55737B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:42:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu) Received: from irix2.gl.umbc.edu (gmiddl1@irix2.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.11]) by mx3out.umbc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21523 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:42:19 -0400 From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: Subject: qmail and MUA's Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since pine does not work with qamil without a little modification i wold like to switch to something that does support the maildir that qmail uses. Does anyone know which ones work with it? I know i could find this on the qmail homepage i just wanna see what other people are using on the list here. Regards, G. Jason Middleton _______________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 10:50:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from truemetal.org (truemetal.org [206.168.16.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0DCB737B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from universe@truemetal.org) Received: (qmail 18432 invoked by alias); 21 Apr 2001 17:46:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truemetal.org) (213.23.52.15) by truemetal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 17:46:46 -0000 Message-ID: <3AE1C7B7.F4D13C48@truemetal.org> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:47:35 +0200 From: universe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "G. Jason Middleton" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qmail and MUA's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mutt has native maildir support. http://www.mutt.org markus "G. Jason Middleton" wrote: > > Since pine does not work with qamil without a little modification i wold > like to switch to something that does support the maildir that qmail uses. > Does anyone know which ones work with it? > > I know i could find this on the qmail homepage i just wanna see what other > people are using on the list here. > > Regards, > > G. Jason Middleton > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 10:57: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx3out.umbc.edu (mx3out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD42337B43C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:57:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu) Received: from irix2.gl.umbc.edu (gmiddl1@irix2.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.11]) by mx3out.umbc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21729; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:56:57 -0400 From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: universe Cc: Subject: Re: qmail and MUA's In-Reply-To: <3AE1C7B7.F4D13C48@truemetal.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG great thanks...but does it leave the mail in the maildir? Because when i check my mail with pine it moves the mail....when i go to later retieve the mail via pop3 or webmail it is not there because pine moved it....will mutt leave the mail in the maildir? On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, universe wrote: > mutt has native maildir support. > http://www.mutt.org > > > markus > > > "G. Jason Middleton" wrote: > > > > Since pine does not work with qamil without a little modification i wold > > like to switch to something that does support the maildir that qmail uses. > > Does anyone know which ones work with it? > > > > I know i could find this on the qmail homepage i just wanna see what other > > people are using on the list here. > > > > Regards, > > > > G. Jason Middleton > > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > G. Jason Middleton _______________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 10:59:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.inwind.it (relay2.inwind.it [212.141.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095A437B496 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:59:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fcasadei@inwind.it) Received: from [62.98.194.93] (62.98.194.93) by relay2.inwind.it (5.5.025) id 3ADDAB460009D40B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:59:46 +0200 Received: (qmail 1491 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Apr 2001 17:58:59 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:58:58 +0200 From: Francesco Casadei To: "G. Jason Middleton" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qmail and MUA's Message-ID: <20010421195858.A1449@goku.kasby> Mail-Followup-To: "G. Jason Middleton" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 01:42:19PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 01:42:19PM -0400, G. Jason Middleton wrote: > Since pine does not work with qamil without a little modification i wold > like to switch to something that does support the maildir that qmail uses. > Does anyone know which ones work with it? >=20 >=20 > I know i could find this on the qmail homepage i just wanna see what other > people are using on the list here. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > G. Jason Middleton >=20 [...]=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >=20 > end of the original message Try mutt-1.2.5, is in the ports collection (/usr/ports/mail/mutt). Just put: set mbox_type =3D Maildir in your ~/.muttrc file. For more information: http://www.mutt.org/ man mutt man muttrc Francesco Casadei --=20 You can download my public key from http://digilander.iol.it/fcasadei/ or retrieve it from a keyserver (pgpkeys.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net, ...) Key fingerprint is: 1671 9A23 ACB4 520A E7EE 00B0 7EC3 375F 164E B17B --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64cpifsM3XxZOsXsRAhDeAJ4x3Cn9A/7FqU+wJ5qRGjWhPV50VQCfaZ9w 2gSthJMLOwKOUfHig/tFJ3I= =gYsW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 11: 0:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f154.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4BA37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from josh_gregory05@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:00:46 -0700 Received: from 64.210.248.135 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:00:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.210.248.135] From: "josh gregory" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: question about FreeBSD Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:00:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2001 18:00:46.0857 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDCB5F90:01C0CA8C] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG if one logged into a remote box and issued the command ---> yes '/.(++),\ 0123456789 @][<->*^% ABCDE FGHIJKLM NOPQRSTU VWXYZ :{}; abcdefghijklmn' what would one possibly be using this command for? Please reply soon. Thanks Ahead~ Josh _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 11: 8:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cgmd76206.chello.nl (d9168.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.9.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD13C37B43C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:08:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edwin@cgmd76206.chello.nl) Received: by cgmd76206.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B181E3AB; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:08:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:08:36 +0200 From: Edwin Groothuis To: uwi mAn Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd 4.3 iso Message-ID: <20010421200836.F504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , uwi mAn , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <001901c0ca79$4bf25480$a62f72c3@themAn> <01042111404700.05246@darkstar.nyc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01042111404700.05246@darkstar.nyc.rr.com>; from js43064n@pace.edu on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 11:40:47AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 11:40:47AM -0500, Jonathan M . Slivko wrote: > ftp2.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/ should have them. releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES that is. But there is no 4.3. Edwin, wondering why people will are so anxious for it... -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://FatalDimensions.nl.eu.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 11: 9:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.metrocon.com (metrocon.com [198.143.64.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA39137B42C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:09:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tzink@mail.metrocon.com) Received: from localhost (tzink@localhost) by mail.metrocon.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA86440; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:09:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tzink@mail.metrocon.com) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:09:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Zink To: Andrew Hesford Cc: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Subject: Re: XWindows and Intel i810 In-Reply-To: <20010421113456.B4936@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Im running x 4.x on that same chipset, all i needed to do was use that x windows, and add an agp line into my kernel conf... but... x rarely crashes switching consoles, i had it do it once, i rebooted, ever since then it worked fine. Go figure Regards, Terry Zink Metrocon Communications Phone: (212) 661-6800 ext. 1554 Fax: (212) 661-1229 On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 02:59:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Is there anyone who's successfully used X with this card - i810 ?? > > > > TX > > > > -Wash > > > > -- > > Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., > > wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse > > Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., > > Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. > > > > Don't kiss an elephant on the lips today. > > > Yes... use the ports version of XFree86 4.0.1. Newer versions do not > work--switching consoles will cause X to crash, and in my case, it won't > work right until reboot. > > Your best bet is grabbing a 4.2-RELEASE ports tree and building it > there. > > -- > Andrew Hesford > ajh3@chmod.ath.cx > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 11:11:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.metrocon.com (metrocon.com [198.143.64.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1497437B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:11:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tzink@mail.metrocon.com) Received: from localhost (tzink@localhost) by mail.metrocon.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA86514; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:11:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tzink@mail.metrocon.com) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:11:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Zink To: josh gregory Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: question about FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This causes a nice scroll of garbage on ytour screen that will flood off a modem user, Why does this remind me of user friendly... "This is not a unsolicited email..." "Whats going on with our server?" "We're being flooded. We received an email. "This is not a denial of service attack." Regards, Terry Zink Metrocon Communications Phone: (212) 661-6800 ext. 1554 Fax: (212) 661-1229 On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, josh gregory wrote: > if one logged into a remote box and issued the command ---> > > yes '/.(++),\ 0123456789 @][<->*^% ABCDE FGHIJKLM NOPQRSTU VWXYZ :{}; > abcdefghijklmn' > > what would one possibly be using this command for? > > Please reply soon. Thanks Ahead~ Josh > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 11:15:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from musique.teaser.fr (musique.teaser.net [213.91.2.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D1337B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:15:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jaco@teaser.fr) Received: from titine.fr.eu.org (Cour-N1D40-004.teaser.net [213.91.40.4]) by musique.teaser.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A6072513 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:15:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: by titine.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BFD5F3398; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:04:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Attribution: Jaco To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Duplicating Audio CDs References: <200104211708.TAA11343@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Eric Jacoboni Date: 21 Apr 2001 20:04:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200104211708.TAA11343@lurza.secnetix.de> (Oliver Fromme's message of "Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:08:03 +0200 (CEST)") Message-ID: <86snj2b03h.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) Emacs/21.0.102 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Oliver" == Oliver Fromme writes: Oliver> The best solution is, of course, to buy a SCSI CD recorder Oliver> and use tosha + cdrecord from the ports. ;) Grmmmmbl... or pray for a SCSI-emulation under FreeBSD ? Anyway, waiting for this holy day, i'm using dagrab (from the ports) to extract CD tracks and burncd to burn them. It works quite well. In fact, "mkdir /tmp/burn && cd /tmp/burn && dagrab -a && burncd -f /dev/graveur -s 12 audio *.wav fixate ; cd .. && rm -rf /tmp/burn" should do the trick. -- Éric Jacoboni, né il y a 1291240299 secondes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 11:16:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cgmd76206.chello.nl (d9168.upc-d.chello.nl [213.46.9.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9503537B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edwin@cgmd76206.chello.nl) Received: by cgmd76206.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AD9233AB; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:16:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:16:55 +0200 From: Edwin Groothuis To: josh gregory Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: question about FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010421201655.G504@cgmd76206.chello.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , josh gregory , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from josh_gregory05@hotmail.com on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 01:00:46PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 01:00:46PM -0500, josh gregory wrote: > if one logged into a remote box and issued the command ---> > > yes '/.(++),\ 0123456789 @][<->*^% ABCDE FGHIJKLM NOPQRSTU VWXYZ :{}; > abcdefghijklmn' > > what would one possibly be using this command for? If you look at the function for the yes command (man 1 yes), you'll see that it returns a lot of y's. Or the string you give on the commandline. So for this one, that string is returned. When doing this on my local LAN, I got about 1.7M kilobits per second of traffic. Imagine doing this from ten machines on my local lan, it would kill the total traffic towards this computer (it's only a 10Mb ethernet, that's enough for educational purposes here at home :-). So, I hack your computer (ISDN link maybe), go back to another hacked computer and start this program. That will completly saturate your link. If you have a fast link, I just use more of my hacked computers and you won't be able to do anything anymore over that link. So euh... see where he was coming from and what he was doing on your computer. Edwin, could be totally wrong about this. -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://FatalDimensions.nl.eu.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 11:23:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from calliope.cs.brandeis.edu (calliope.cs.brandeis.edu [129.64.3.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F44637B42C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:23:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from meshko@daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu) Received: from localhost (meshko@localhost) by calliope.cs.brandeis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22935 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:23:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: calliope.cs.brandeis.edu: meshko owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:23:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Kruk X-X-Sender: To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have the following simple setup: 4.3 box running as a gateway connected to a DSL modem, running ppp -nat Win2k laptop conencted to it on the second NIC. Laptop is 10.0.0.5, gateway is 10.0.0.1 Laptop has VP-1 SecuRemote software for authentication with a cirtain LAN, call it xxx.com When I try to open www.xxx.com in browser, the secureid window pops up and asks me for authentication. I enter the secure card number and it says that I'm successfully authenticated. However when it procedes to lookup www.xxx.com it fails. When I try tcpdumping all this on gateway, I get some results which seem strange to me (but it's more or less my first time with tcpdump) The communications between name server and laptop do not seem to have any mentions of the www.xxx.com in them, however I get a bunch of packets of this form: 12:24:30.139291 10.0.0.5 > pool-y-y.xxx.com: ip-proto-94 45 I suspect that the secureid is interfering with something since as I understand it, it is supposed to kick in when I talk to xxx.com network. But the stupid program doesn't let me see any settings, and when I tried to disable it, I got pretty much the same results: 14:08:12.782877 10.0.0.5.1054 > ns3.mindspring.com.domain: 1+ PTR? 187.188.69.207.in-addr.arpa. (45) 14:08:12.832639 ns3.mindspring.com.domain > 10.0.0.5.1054: 1 1/3/3 (204) 14:08:12.833946 10.0.0.5.1055 > 132.253.253.254.domain: 2+ A? www.xxx.com. (29) 14:08:14.836046 10.0.0.5.1056 > 132.253.253.254.domain: 3+ A? www.xxx.com. (29) The strange thing is that both A? queries appear at the same time and there is a big delay before they appear. Immediately after this it sent a bunch of netbios packets. I realize that it's starting to look like Windows question now, but since there is a chance that something is getting screwed up in the nat I decided to try here first. Besides I don't know any where to ask Windows questions. TIA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 11:24: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f89.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628BA37B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:23:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mauricio_avalos@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:23:55 -0700 Received: from 200.31.14.204 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:23:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.31.14.204] From: "Mauricio Avalos" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fwd: BSD send command source file. Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:23:54 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_2fc7_3b7e_6b58" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2001 18:23:55.0096 (UTC) FILETIME=[393FD580:01C0CA90] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_2fc7_3b7e_6b58 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: "Mauricio Avalos" >To: roam@orbitel.bg >CC: giovanni.gomez@sun.com, mauricio_avalos@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: BSD send command source file. >Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:08:03 > >Hi Peter, > >Thanks for your interest and kind help. > >'send()' is a UNIX c library. > >What we need exactly is the 'send command' that is used for users/servers >messaging system. > >Solaris SYSTEM V replaced this command with mailx and mail. > >We need the sources of this command to re-compile it in Solaris 7. > >Thanks again, > >P.D. If you want we can give you a phone call. > >I send you an example of how the customer uses the send command in True-64 >Digital. > > > >MAG. > > >>From: Peter Pentchev >>To: Mauricio Avalos >>CC: ports@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org >>Subject: Re: BSD send command source file. >>Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:44:00 +0300 >> >>On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 05:35:42PM +0000, Mauricio Avalos wrote: >> > Hi gurus, >> > >> > We need the source for the BSD 'send' command. >> > We tried the BSD web page but we don't know what is the name of the >>package >> > that contains this command to download it. >> > >> > Can you please help us out with the link we're looking for? >> >>There is no 'send' command in FreeBSD. Do you mean the send() syscall? >>If not, what exactly is the command you're referring to supposed to do? >> >>G'luck, >>Peter >> >>-- >From: "Mauricio Avalos" >To: ports@FreeBSD.org, www@FreeBSD.org >CC: mauricio_avalos@hotmail.com >Subject: BSD send command source file. >Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:35:42 > >Hi gurus, > >We need the source for the BSD 'send' command. >We tried the BSD web page but we don't know what is the name of the package >that contains this command to download it. > >Can you please help us out with the link we're looking for? > > >Thanks in advance, > > > >Mauricio Avalos >Enteprise Services >SUN Microsystems > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------=_NextPart_000_2fc7_3b7e_6b58 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="prueba" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="prueba" IyAqKiogc2hlbGwgdXRpbGl6YWRvIHBhcmEgbm90aWZpY2FyIGxhcyBhbGFy bWFzIGdlbmVyYWRhcyBkZSAgYXBsaWNhY2lvbgojICoqKiAlMSBpbmRpY2Eg bGEgbWFxdWluYSBxdWUgZ2VuZXJvIGVsIG1lbnNhamUKIyAqKiogJTIgaW5k aWNhIGVsIE5vbWJyZSBkZWwgcHJvZ3JhbWEKIyAqKiogJTMgaW5kaWNhIGVs IG51bWVybyBkZSBkZXBlbmRlbmNpYQoKCmVjaG8gInRvOk1vbmljYS5HYWxs ZWdvQHBvc3RvZmZpY2UgIiA+IG1haTMKZWNobyAic3ViamVjdDogUHJvYmxl bWFzIGNvbiBlbCBwcm9jZXNvIENWSU1QICBlbiAkMSAiID4+IG1haTMKZWNo byAiLS0tLS0tLS0iID4+IG1haTMKZGF0ZSArIiVyICVkICVoIiA+PiBtYWkz CmVjaG8gIk1lbnNhamUgZGUgYXBsaWNhY2lvbiBlbiBsYSBtYXF1aW5hICQx IC0gZGVwZW5kZW5jaWEgJDM6IiA+PiBtYWkzCmVjaG8gIkluZm9ybWF0aXZv ICQ0OiAkNSAiID4+IG1haTMKbXYgbWFpMyAvTWFpbAovdXNyL2Jpbi9taC9z ZW5kIG1haTMK ------=_NextPart_000_2fc7_3b7e_6b58-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 11:24:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E1837B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:24:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E94D3A926; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:23:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:23:33 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Terry Zink Cc: Andrew Hesford , Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Subject: Re: XWindows and Intel i810 Message-ID: <20010421132333.A80576@cec.wustl.edu> References: <20010421113456.B4936@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tzink@mail.metrocon.com on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 02:09:08PM -0400 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 02:09:08PM -0400, Terry Zink wrote: > Im running x 4.x on that same chipset, all i needed to do was use that x > windows, and add an agp line into my kernel conf... but... x rarely > crashes switching consoles, i had it do it once, i rebooted, ever since > then it worked fine. > Go figure There seems to be quite a bit of variability in this. Some people have no troubles, some can't get it working. I'm one of the people who can't get it working. I have the AGP driver builtin, and anything over 4.0.1 crashes every time I switch consoles. This is a testament to the variability of Intel hardware, I suppose. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 11:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from algonet.se (delenn.tninet.se [195.100.94.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F76C37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:29:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gus@algonet.se) Received: from laptop (sdu35-236.ppp.algonet.se [195.163.236.35]) by delenn.tninet.se (BLUETAIL Mail Robustifier 2.2.2) with ESMTP id 258342.877796.987delenn-s2 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:29:56 +0200 From: gus@algonet.se (Gustaf Tham) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Setting up printer in freeBSD 4.2 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:29:38 GMT Message-ID: <3ae1d161.3469458@smtp.algonet.se> References: <3AE1967E.EA67FB55@iafrica.com> In-Reply-To: <3AE1967E.EA67FB55@iafrica.com> X-Mailer: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Francois, I'm almost new to FreeBSD, but I think I can help you. If anyone more knowledgeable disagrees, please tell both of us. The lines in the kernel config that you need for a parallell printer are already there; just check that they are uncommented; ( I dont think I had to change anything in the kernel for this). device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer The simplest way to set up printing is probably to use apsfilter. You don't have to read the handbook, I think :-) 1. Install gs (ghostscript) from the ports collection 2. Install apsfilter 3. Run apsfilter's SETUP program in /usr/local/share/apsfilter (I think), select your printer, port, resolution etc; test printing. 4. I had to edit /etc/printcap, since the device lp was used twice. Comment out the one not belonging to apsfilter. 5. Check that /etc/rc.conf contains the line lpd_enable="YES" 5. Reboot. Now you can print most files by a simple lpr filename, without having to worry if they are plain text, PostScript, HTML etc. Good luck Gustaf Tham Sweden On 21 Apr 2001 16:17:27 +0200, ffkrz@iafrica.com (Francois Kritzinger) wrote: >I have read the freeBSD handbook, and followed their instructions. > >I have an HP deskjet 710C on freeBSD 4.2. > >I added the lines from the handbook into my kernel configuration file, >but I got an error: "config: syntax error on line xx" which was >obviously the line I added. >When freeBSD boots up it sees the printer and also the fact that is is >on ppbus0 and on lpt0. > >So in other words I don't know how to make my printer work... > >Any tips? > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > On 21 Apr 2001 16:17:27 +0200, in muc.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >I have read the freeBSD handbook, and followed their instructions. > >I have an HP deskjet 710C on freeBSD 4.2. > >I added the lines from the handbook into my kernel configuration file, >but I got an error: "config: syntax error on line xx" which was >obviously the line I added. >When freeBSD boots up it sees the printer and also the fact that is is >on ppbus0 and on lpt0. > >So in other words I don't know how to make my printer work... > >Any tips? > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 11:57:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from krondor.kih.net (krondor.kih.net [209.209.180.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5BE37B443 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:57:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from slipknot@kih.net) Received: from slipknot (ovfl2-213.kih.net [209.209.178.213]) by krondor.kih.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA10656 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000a01c0caae$3da64140$d5b2d1d1@slipknot> From: "slipknot" To: Subject: hi Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:58:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0CA73.9054CBE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0CA73.9054CBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello i was downloading FreeBSD 4.2-strable off of your ftp, ftp.freebsd.org. = then your ftp stopped working for like 2 days, now its back up and you = dont have any of the files that were there before so i cant finish = downloading it, i spent hours getting 530mb and it was almost done. can = you please tell me if you are going to fix it or just not let people = download 4.2 or what. if your operating system is so stable, why is the = ftp always down and why is everything gone? ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0CA73.9054CBE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello
i was downloading FreeBSD 4.2-strable = off of your=20 ftp, ftp.freebsd.org.  then = your ftp=20 stopped working for like 2 days, now its back up and you dont have any = of the=20 files that were there before so i cant finish downloading it, i spent = hours=20 getting 530mb and it was almost done.  can you please tell me if = you are=20 going to fix it or just not let people download 4.2 or what.  if = your=20 operating system is so stable, why is the ftp always down and why is = everything=20 gone?
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0CA73.9054CBE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 12: 2:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c0039.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B2837B43E for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA57403; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:02:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3AE1D94B.33D31D64@nisser.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:02:35 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: Nisser - Nr. 1 in Veiligheid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Starting JAIL References: <20010416134036.A2022@everest.wananchi.com> <3ADB6418.D9B96B6F@nisser.com> <20010420192407.A62988@everest.wananchi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > ... > > I am surprised that those users running jail are not responding to my > queries. I always search the archives 1st before I get to the list. i only > expose my ignorance when I MUST ;-) I haven't had the time yet to take jails for a spin. Believe Henk Wevers has, though, and has published some notes of his travails. They're at http://jailnotes.cg.nu/, maybe they'll be of some use. Roelof -- Nisser home -- http://nisse.Nisser.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 12: 5:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rm-rstar.sfu.ca (rm-rstar.sfu.ca [142.58.120.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367F537B42C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (tmchow@fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by rm-rstar.sfu.ca (8.10.1/8.10.1/SFU-5.0H) with ESMTP id f3LJ5Zl25930 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFU-5.0C) with ESMTP id MAA27876 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:05:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fraser.sfu.ca: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:05:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow To: Subject: Can't start Postgres Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just installed the Postgresql 7.1 port and I can't start it up using the script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/. Whenver I issue the start command, I'm getting this message: ----- mesg: /dev/ttyp1: Operation not permitted function: not found ls: not found function: not found Syntax error: "}" unexpected ----- The actual startup script is /usr/local/etc/rc.d/pgsql.sh: #!/bin/sh # $FreeBSD: ports/databases/postgresql7/files/pgsql.sh.tmpl,v 1.10 2001/04/21 11:34:33 vanilla Exp $ # # For postmaster startup options, edit $PGDATA/postgresql.conf PGBIN=/usr/local/bin case $1 in start) [ -d /usr/local/lib ] && /sbin/ldconfig -m /usr/local/lib [ -x ${PGBIN}/pg_ctl ] && { su -l pgsql -c \ 'exec /usr/local/bin/pg_ctl start -w -l ~pgsql/errlog' echo -n ' pgsql' } ;; stop) [ -x ${PGBIN}/pg_ctl ] && { exec su -l pgsql -c 'exec /usr/local/bin/pg_ctl stop -m fast' } ;; status) [ -x ${PGBIN}/pg_ctl ] && { exec su -l pgsql -c 'exec /usr/local/bin/pg_ctl status' } ;; *) echo "usage: `basename $0` {start|stop|status}" >&2 exit 64 ;; esac To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 12: 9:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f269.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.18.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC69237B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:09:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from josh_gregory05@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:09:17 -0700 Received: from 64.210.248.135 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:09:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.210.248.135] From: "josh gregory" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: another question about command Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:09:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2001 19:09:17.0597 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FFC84D0:01C0CA96] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Could this command possibly used to determine if line noise was causing characters to be dropped between me and a remote host? yes '/.(++),\ 0123456789 @][<->*^% ABCDE FGHIJKLM NOPQRSTU VWXYZ :{}; abcdefghijklmn' Thanks Ahead~ Josh _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 12:23: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [216.106.246.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9242837B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:23:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin0.westbend.net [216.106.246.17]) by mail.westbend.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3LJMxR90259 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:22:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <006d01c0ca98$3d106be0$11f66ad8@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: Subject: Restore Partition table Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:21:15 -0500 Organization: West Bend Interent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I accidentally wiped out the partition table on my system while trying to partition a new disk. How can I recover the data from this drive? Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 12:28:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from icc.cgu.chel.su (gw.csu.ru [195.54.14.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DA837B423; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:28:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: from mail.cgu.chel.su (mail.cgu.chel.su [195.54.14.68]) by icc.cgu.chel.su (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3LJSa914679 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:28:39 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.cgu.chel.su (8.11.2/8.11.2) with UUCP id f3LJSab37276; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:28:36 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Received: from localhost (localhost.cgu.chel.su [127.0.0.1]) by jane.poka.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3LJQHu01374; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:26:17 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from ilia@cgu.chel.su) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:26:17 +0600 (YEKST) From: Ilia Chipitsine X-Sender: ilia@jane.poka.net To: questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, sobomax@FreeBSD.org Subject: sysutils/cd9660_unicode problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It used to work for me when it was 4.2-STABLE, but it doesn't work with ... %uname -a FreeBSD jane.poka.net 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Sun Apr 22 01:08:56 YEKST 2001 ilia@jane.poka.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/JANE i386 % the error is ... kldload: can't load ./cd9660_koi8-r.ko: Exec format error link_elf: symbol cd9660_wchar2char undefined (I cvsup-ed everything and 'I made buildworld') Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 12:29:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC0337B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:29:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js43064n@pace.edu) Received: from darkstar.nyc.rr.com ([24.29.134.143]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:33:12 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jonathan M.Slivko To: "slipknot" , Subject: Re: hi Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:29:24 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <000a01c0caae$3da64140$d5b2d1d1@slipknot> In-Reply-To: <000a01c0caae$3da64140$d5b2d1d1@slipknot> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042115292400.80680@darkstar.nyc.rr.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ftp2.freebsd.org has the same files, it's a mirror. -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Saturday 21 April 2001 16:58, slipknot wrote: > hello > i was downloading FreeBSD 4.2-strable off of your ftp, ftp.freebsd.org. > then your ftp stopped working for like 2 days, now its back up and you dont > have any of the files that were there before so i cant finish downloading > it, i spent hours getting 530mb and it was almost done. can you please > tell me if you are going to fix it or just not let people download 4.2 or > what. if your operating system is so stable, why is the ftp always down > and why is everything gone? ---------------------------------------- Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: ---------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 12:37:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B515B37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:37:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f3LJb5H32707; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:37:05 +0200 (CEST) To: Siegbert Baude Subject: Re: NO_X in /etc/defaults/make.conf Message-ID: <987881825.3ae1e1610d198@webmail.neomedia.it> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:37:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. X-Originating-IP: 62.98.160.57 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > in /etc/defaults/make.conf there is an option "NO_X". Do I want or > need this, if I'm using the ports version of XFree 4.03 ? Would it > destroy anything, if set to TRUE ? > BTW, I already have XFREE86_VERSION=4 in /etc/make.conf . ^ ^ ^ ^ Me too! ^ I seem to understand that the NO_X option is used for removing X support from those ported programs which can function without X. I have always installed X -- most of my software, actually -- via the ports mechanism. I am not aware of any potential problems which might arise when X is installed otherwise . I appear to understand that some ports look for installed libraries & suchlike. Thus the installation method (ports or packages) should be immaterial. On my bloat^H^H^H^Hworkstation I want X, so... BTW, after setting XFREE86_VERSION=4 in /etc/make.conf, I was able to seamlessly compile the build-wise & resource-wise dreadful KDE2. Well, I perused a number of posts in the archives, in particular yours :-) On my 4.3 RC system (as of about one week ago), KDE2's antialiasing setting just doesn't work with TrueType fonts. Uncheking it in the KDE2 erm "control center" seems to produce acceptable results -- and QT_XFT IS 0 in the latter case. I was wondering whether I had missed something or whether these were simply the best results I could get out of KDE2 & XFree86-4. Sorry for replying with... another question :-) TIA, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 12:50:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07C0737B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 80286 invoked by uid 100); 21 Apr 2001 19:50:07 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15073.58479.640534.304448@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:50:07 -0500 To: abdulla Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Patching In-Reply-To: <76418464@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG abdulla types: > I bought The Complete FreeBSD book with the 4 CDs ( my way of supporting > them :) ) from what I read, I need to have a full copy of the source in > order to update FreeBSD. I have seen security patches in the FTP sites, > and all I want is to apply them. Do I have to do a one day compiling to > apply these patches? Can't I just patch FreeBSD with a command similar to > rpm -Uvh xxxx.rpm in linux? You already have a full copy of the sources - they are on the 4 CD set. You may need to install those. You can apply the source patches to each command, then rebuild and reinstall just that command. As far as I know, no one provides binary patches for FreeBSD. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 13: 5:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCF4337B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 80588 invoked by uid 100); 21 Apr 2001 20:05:14 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15073.59385.956164.312837@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:05:13 -0500 To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Detecting mail client capabilities In-Reply-To: <54218464@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sheldon Hearn types: > Hi folks, > > I'm embarrassed to ask this, but the folks I'm doing some work for > insist that it's possible, so here goes... > > Is there teechnology available that allows one to determine what the > rendering capabilities of a customers e-mail client are without the > customer having explicitly sent one mail from that client? No. There isn't even a technology that allows you to determine those capabilities with having explicit mail. Many people read mail with more than one mail reader, so you can't rely on them reading the mail using the same agent they sent the mail with the first time. > My employer's confirmation process for their opt-in mailing list > requires the customer to click on a web URL within their mail message. > When they hit that URL, confirmation is registered. As Alex suggested, you can sniff the browser in the HTTP transaction. For a lot of people, that will tell you what their mail reader can do. On the other hand, it'll be wrong for some of them. > Please don't flame me too much. In my mind, this is impossible, but I > did undertake to confirm my suspicions. As I said, my employer insists > that this is possible, mostly because the company that handled their > mass-mailing for them before told them that this was part of the service > they were paying for. If you could be more explicit about this, it would help. Exactly what did the mass-mailing service provide? Given the ethics involved in the mass-mailing industry, I'd be interested in why you trusted any information from them. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 13:11:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18EAE37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 80741 invoked by uid 100); 21 Apr 2001 20:11:36 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15073.59768.528318.769035@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:11:36 -0500 To: "G. Jason Middleton" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qmail and MUA's In-Reply-To: <47711896@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG G. Jason Middleton types: > Since pine does not work with qamil without a little modification i wold > like to switch to something that does support the maildir that qmail uses. > Does anyone know which ones work with it? Since you've got a pop server running, any mail reader that will talk to a pop server will work. That also solves the problem of whether the mail should be left on the pop server or not - you set your UMA to do whichever you want. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 13:15: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from omta01.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CA337B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ikram@linuxwaves.com) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta01.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEBE1C3FD7 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 91BF436F9; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:14:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Mohammad Ikram To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installation problem Reply-To: ikram@linuxwaves.com X-Originating-Ip: [64.110.83.4] Message-Id: <20010421201456.91BF436F9@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to install freeBSD and when it comes to extracting files from the CD drive it says can not extract /bin into directory. While i installed freeBSD a few days ago and it was fine, suddenly it is giving these problems can i have some help NEW TO freeBSD _____________________________________________________________ Get your spam-free, Linux email now --> http://www.LinuxWaves.com Join Linux discussions --> http://Community.LinuxWaves.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 13:15:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E65737B43E for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:15:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bartequi@neomedia.it) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f3LKEde14758; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:14:39 +0200 (CEST) To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Subject: Re: Restore Partition table Message-ID: <987884078.3ae1ea2ed7c17@webmail.neomedia.it> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:14:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4-cvs X-WebMail-Company: Neomedia s.a.s. X-Originating-IP: 62.98.160.57 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I accidentally wiped out the partition table on my system while trying to > partition a new disk. > How can I recover the data from this drive? > Scot AFAIR, there have been a number of woes^H^H^H^Hposts and suggestions on this subject. You may wish to search the archives. In this connection, "gpart", which can be found in /usr/ports/sysutils/gpart, may be an interesting tool. Best of luck, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 13:40:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182D037B43C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:40:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A03616B01D0; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:40:22 -0700 Message-ID: <3AE1F036.40065FB@urx.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:40:22 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Banning Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world error References: <20010420150921.A665@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE08EF5.2FD89711@urx.com> <20010421132631.A305@www3.pacific-pages.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Banning wrote: > > OK so I have been trying different memory / bios setting according > to the suggestions on the site you reccommended. > > Here is another question; > > Since my error occured in; > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > > I go there and do a make, and get the same errors I did during > the make world. > > I am just wondering if the signal 11 error "message" results from > some error earlier in the make world compile. If the make I do for a > test utilizes earlier files that are bad because of memory error, > I'll never get my problem fixed! I haven't tried to decipher the Makefile that far into it and don't have any idea. If you aren't upgrading from a 4.x version, pay close attention to /usr/src/UPDATING. The important stuff is located quite a ways in now. There are situations where people have to set NOPERL to get around problems with perl on the first build. > > If I go to /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl and do a make > to test whether the change I made works or not, is that a propper check > of whether the memory is fixed or not? You might "cd /usr/obj" and "rm -rf *" to get a clean obj. You might have problems with the chflags and have to noschg /usr/obj before you can remove it all. The rm will remove all it can first, which makes the chflags faster. The default /root shell has a history and you aren't retyping much. FWIW, I had an old SuperMicro mobo that wouldn't take additional memory. I could add 64MB in the 1st two slots and that was it. I eventually replaced it with a P2B-B. That took me from a P-133 to a Celeron 433a. Kent > > The main issue here is speed. The web site mentions a memory test, > which takes 24 hours on a pentium 100. That takes a long time > when trying this, trying that.. with my memory, bios etc.. > > > David Banning wrote: > > > > > > One thing I don;t understand about cvsupping and then making world > > > is why there would be errors; if cvsup is insuring that > > > every bit of code is up to date, then everybody's code is the same > > > right? So how would I get errors different than the next guy? > > > > Well, it probably means you have some piece of hardware that is flaky. Read > > http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ and see if you can figure out what is causing > > it. > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > That said here is the errors of my most recent attempt; > > > > > > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl; make _EXTRADEPEND > > > echo miniperl: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libm.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypt.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libutil.a >> .depend > > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > > > Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) > > > Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) > > > Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) > > > Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 3) configuration: > > > Platform: > > > osname=freebsd, osvers=4.0-current, archname=i386-freebsd > > > uname='FreeBSD freefall.FreeBSD.org 4.0-current FreeBSD 4.0-current #0: $Date$' > > > hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define > > > usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef > > > Compiler: > > > cc='cc', optimize='', gccversion=2.95.2 19991024 (release) > > > cppflags='' > > > ccflags ='' > > > stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=undef, usevfork=true > > > intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8 > > > d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12 > > > alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define > > > Linker and Libraries: > > > ld='cc', ldflags ='-Wl,-E -lperl -lm ' > > > libpth=/usr/lib > > > libs=-lm -lc -lcrypt > > > libc=, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so.3 > > > Dynamic Linking: > > > dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' -Wl,-R/usr/lib' > > > cccdlflags='-DPIC -fpic', lddlflags='-Wl,-E -shared -lperl -lm ' > > > > > > *** Signal 11 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Kent Stewart > > Richland, WA > > > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > > -- > Nothing is illegal if one hundred businessmen decide to do it. > -- Andrew Young > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 13:42:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ruby.he.net (ruby.he.net [216.218.187.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9A337B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:42:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from corten8.billschoolcraft.com (adsl-63-193-247-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.247.201]) by ruby.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with ESMTP id NAA12133; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:42:18 -0700 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:37:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-Sender: To: Roelof Osinga Cc: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Starting JAIL In-Reply-To: <3AE1D94B.33D31D64@nisser.com> Message-ID: System-ID: [en] (I; SunOS 5.8 i86pc) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Sat, 21 Apr 2001 it looks like Roelof Osinga composed: > Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > ... > > > > I am surprised that those users running jail are not responding to my > > queries. I always search the archives 1st before I get to the list. i only > > expose my ignorance when I MUST ;-) > > I haven't had the time yet to take jails for a spin. Believe Henk Wevers > has, though, and has published some notes of his travails. > > They're at http://jailnotes.cg.nu/, maybe they'll be of some use. > The May 2001 issue of SYS-ADMIN magazine has a step_by_step setup using FreeBSD, it really detailed too. http://www.sysadminmag.com/current/ -- Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ "UNIX, A Way Of Life." _\_v http://forwardslashunix.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 13:45:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f44.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD43037B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:45:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from merkury55@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:45:24 -0700 Received: from 63.24.96.145 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:45:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.24.96.145] From: "Nick Mazza" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ports Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:45:24 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2001 20:45:24.0694 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD71AF60:01C0CAA3] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am running 4.3rc2 and am having a problem installing packages froom ports. I login as root and go to my desired port and type make install and it starts to try and connect to the ftp sites and I get Permission denied several times then an error 1. Is this common or am i doing something wrong. please help Nick Mazza _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 13:48: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nwark.net (nwark.net [208.136.254.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DC137B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:47:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jshenry@net-noise.com) Received: from guinevere (adsl29.nwark.net [216.63.158.30]) by nwark.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f3LKllc13449 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:47:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "J. Seth Henry" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: FBSD 4.2 security settings Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:46:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I recently upgraded to 4.2-RELEASE, and I accepted the default "medium" security. All was well until I tried loading a kernel module, and running X. I discovered that medium security implies a kernel security level of 1, instead of 0. Does anyone know where this is stored? I changed the value in rc.conf from 1 to 0, and now I get two messages (almost sequentially) Changing kern.securelevel from -1 -> 0 Changing kern.securelevel from 0 -> 1 If I turn the setting off, it stays at -1. I thought about just leaving it disabled and writing a script that runs from rc.d that sets it explicitly, but I would like to know how to fix it the "right" way. Thanks, Seth Henry jshenry@net-noise.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 13:49:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [194.205.134.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7519737B5AF for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:49:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waynep@zaphod.realtime.co.uk) Received: from zaphod.realtime.co.uk ([194.205.134.208]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14r4Ju-0005Gv-01 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:49:30 +0100 Received: from waynep by zaphod.realtime.co.uk with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14r4Jj-00048v-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:49:19 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Perl versions Reply-To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Date: 21 Apr 2001 21:49:19 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Couple of questions... 1. When is perl 5.6.x due to be included in the FreeBSD system ? 2. I have installed perl 5.6.1 from source. This is because using perl -MCPAN -e shell kept trying to install it when I tried to update things like CPAN. How can I change ports like p5-MIME-Base64 so that they install for perl 5.6.1 and into perl 5.6.1's @INC path? I can't install this module from CPAN. It looks like there are patches being applied for FreeBSD when you install from ports. TIA, -- - Wayne Pascoe E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 14: 2:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c0039.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBFF37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:02:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA57827; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:02:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3AE1F56F.F7E8F8BB@nisser.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:02:39 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: Nisser - Nr. 1 in Veiligheid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Schoolcraft Cc: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Starting JAIL References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > > ... > The May 2001 issue of SYS-ADMIN magazine has a step_by_step setup > using FreeBSD, it really detailed too. > > http://www.sysadminmag.com/current/ Talking about magazines, when is issue 3 of daemonnews due? That's a zine I've subscribed too ;). Looks interesting, though. Will see if I can lay my grubby little fingers on it. Roelof To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 14:10:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yoda.fmi.uni-passau.de (yoda.fmi.uni-passau.de [132.231.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3C037B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:10:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schlenke@yoda.fmi.uni-passau.de) Received: from bender.fmi.uni-passau.de (bender [132.231.1.103]) by yoda.fmi.uni-passau.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18726 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:09:44 +0200 (MEST) Received: from localhost (schlenke@localhost) by bender.fmi.uni-passau.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA24747 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:12:44 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: bender.fmi.uni-passau.de: schlenke owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:12:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Schlenker To: Subject: Direct PPP connection with Psion Revo? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks! Since some days I'm proud owner of a Psion Revo. I just installed Win9x on a small Harddisk just to install the Webbrowser and an FTP-Client on the Psion. With Win the direct serial connection works (I can even browse the web through a proxy :-|). The Psion is set to 8 Databits, no parity, 1 Stopbit. When I try to login to FreeBSD I just see _very_ weird symbols in the log-window until the connection breaks. Has anyone out there tried to set up direct ppp with a Psion Revo (I think this is not very different on a Palm or with any direct serial connection)? Which files do I have to edit? Should I use getty or mgetty? How would my mgetty.conf have to look like? Here are the changes to the related files I made: /etc/ttys: ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty psion" dialup on secure ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty psion" dialup on secure /etc/ppp/ppp.conf: psion: set ifaddr 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.101 255.255.255.0 set device /dev/cuaa0 set speed 57600 enable passwdauth allow users mattias enable pap enable lqr /usr/local/bin/ppplogin: #! /bin/sh exec /usr/sbin/ppp -direct psion /etc/gettytab: psion:\ :pp=/usr/local/bin/ppplogin:\ :np:sp#57600: Thank you! Mattias -- Mattias Schlenker / Tel 0851 9441369 oder 0173 8149735 Freyunger Str. 42 / http://www.webweaver.de 94034 Passau / http://www.fmi.uni-passau.de/~schlenke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 14:26:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.total.net (rossine.total.net [154.11.89.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51C7737B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:26:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cckok00@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 12675 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 21:26:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (154.20.96.108) by smtp.total.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 21:26:35 -0000 Message-ID: <3AE1FB1A.D39B36C2@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:26:50 -0400 From: Peter Kok X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: what is this meaning from log Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I discovered the following from log messages from different servers What are those meaning? mail.nik.com kernel log messages: > arp: 00:d0:59:36:db:fe is using my IP address 192.168.0.3! > arp: 00:d0:59:36:db:fe is using my IP address 192.168.0.3! > arp: 00:d0:59:36:db:fe is using my IP address 192.168.0.3! peter.im.nik.com kernel log messages: > arp: 192.168.0.3 moved from 00:d0:59:36:db:fe to 00:a0:24:71:9f:1a on fxp0 > arp: 192.168.0.3 moved from 00:a0:24:71:9f:1a to 00:d0:59:36:db:fe on fxp0 Tks regads Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 14:33:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B4237B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:33:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js43064n@pace.edu) Received: from darkstar.nyc.rr.com ([24.29.134.143]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:37:20 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jonathan M.Slivko To: Peter Kok , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: what is this meaning from log Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:33:32 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <3AE1FB1A.D39B36C2@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3AE1FB1A.D39B36C2@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042117333201.81544@darkstar.nyc.rr.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That means that someone with the ethernet address of 00:d0:59:36:db:fe is using the IP address that is slated to be on that machine. If you find the machine with that NIC, you'll have found the problem. After that, it's just a matter of unbinding that IP address from one machine or the other. -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Saturday 21 April 2001 16:26, Peter Kok wrote: > Hi all > > I discovered the following from log messages from different servers > What are those meaning? > > mail.nik.com kernel log messages: > > arp: 00:d0:59:36:db:fe is using my IP address 192.168.0.3! > > arp: 00:d0:59:36:db:fe is using my IP address 192.168.0.3! > > arp: 00:d0:59:36:db:fe is using my IP address 192.168.0.3! > > peter.im.nik.com kernel log messages: > > arp: 192.168.0.3 moved from 00:d0:59:36:db:fe to 00:a0:24:71:9f:1a on > > fxp0 > > > arp: 192.168.0.3 moved from 00:a0:24:71:9f:1a to 00:d0:59:36:db:fe on > > fxp0 > > > > Tks > > regads > Peter > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 14:47:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97FC37B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:47:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from suleyman@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (suleyman@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3LLlYt13333 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:47:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Seggerman To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: using dd to copy a DOS partition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Somebody at an Open Source OS install fest suggested that I could copy an > entire DOS partition to a file on a remote a UNIX file system by using dd. > > dd if=/dev/ad0s1 of=/mnt/backups/windows/filename.iso > 1644993+0 records in It works! This seems to be a viable drive to drive backup method. I tried a safer version of the above experiment using a smaller logical partition on another machine, filling it with copies of real data and executables. # dd if=/dev/ads05 of=/usr/backups/nt_d.backup I then rebooted into NT, deleted the contents of the D:\ drive, rebooted into FreeBSD and did: # dd if=/usr/backups/nt_d.backup of=/dev/ads05 and rebooted into NT. My D:\ drive was there as if it had never been deleted. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 14:56:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f3.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB9037B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:56:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from josh_gregory05@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:56:17 -0700 Received: from 206.65.190.134 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:56:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [206.65.190.134] From: "josh gregory" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: question Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:56:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2001 21:56:17.0463 (UTC) FILETIME=[E44ABC70:01C0CAAD] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If one logged into a remote box and issue the command ---> yes '/.(++),\ 0123456789 @][<->*^% ABCDE FGHIJKLM NOPQRSTU VWXYZ :{}; abcdefghijklmn' what would i possibly be using this command for? Could that command be used to determine if line noise was causing characters to be dropped between me and a remote host? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 15: 0:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from schmoo.tclme.org (schmoo.tclme.org [208.24.53.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 040DF37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:00:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgreene@tclme.org) Received: (qmail 28687 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 21:55:31 -0000 Received: from dialup23.austintx.com (HELO tclme.org) (rgreene@208.24.53.25) by mail.tclme.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 21:55:31 -0000 Message-ID: <3AE204FD.2DBFDB82@tclme.org> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:09:01 -0500 From: Bob Greene Organization: tclme.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: slipknot Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hi References: <000a01c0caae$3da64140$d5b2d1d1@slipknot> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > slipknot wrote: > > hello > i was downloading FreeBSD 4.2-strable off of your ftp, > ftp.freebsd.org. then your ftp stopped working for like 2 days, now > its back up and you dont have any of the files that were there before > so i cant finish downloading it, i spent hours getting 530mb and it > was almost done. can you please tell me if you are going to fix it or > just not let people download 4.2 or what. if your operating system is > so stable, why is the ftp always down and why is everything gone? If all you want is the 4.2 iso, send me a postal address within the US and I'll mail a CD to you. -- Bob Greene rgreene@TclMe.org Pull my finger for my public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 15:27:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA88237B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A8807A924; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:26:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:26:55 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Eric Jacoboni Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Duplicating Audio CDs Message-ID: <20010421172655.A894@cec.wustl.edu> References: <200104211708.TAA11343@lurza.secnetix.de> <86snj2b03h.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <86snj2b03h.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org>; from jaco@teaser.fr on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 08:04:50PM +0200 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 08:04:50PM +0200, Eric Jacoboni wrote: > Grmmmmbl... or pray for a SCSI-emulation under FreeBSD ? SCSI emulation is not the solution. If you want to use cdrecord, push the developers to support ATAPI hardware. I've never been fond of having hardware masquerade as something else. The only reason I used SCSI emulation in Linux is because nobody over there has their act together enough to make an ATAPI writing program. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 15:52:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from killermartian.com (usr3-20.pacificnet.net [207.171.38.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CF837B43C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:52:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephenk@killermartian.com) Received: from beelzebub.inside.killermartian.com (beelzebub.inside.killermartian.com [10.0.69.10]) by killermartian.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27178 for <>; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:52:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephenk@killermartian.com) Received: by beelzebub.inside.killermartian.com; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:52:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Stephen Krauth X-Sender: stephenk@beelzebub.inside.killermartian.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: info on 4.3 & 5.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm just curious about what new things are coming in 4.3 and 5.0, but can't seem to find any info on the main freebsd.org website. Is there any info out there, like todo lists or just a summary of works in progress? I've been wondering what's going on with 5.0 for quite a while... And it would be REALLY nice if this kind of info could be found easily from the main page. :) Steve K. U.F.O. - "For the feeler gauge in you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 17:28:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from musique.teaser.fr (musique.teaser.net [213.91.2.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A870737B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jaco@teaser.fr) Received: from titine.fr.eu.org (Cour-N1D40-126.teaser.net [213.91.40.126]) by musique.teaser.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C27772548 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 02:28:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by titine.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0556033AD; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 02:26:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Attribution: Jaco To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Duplicating Audio CDs References: <200104211708.TAA11343@lurza.secnetix.de> <86snj2b03h.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> <20010421172655.A894@cec.wustl.edu> From: Eric Jacoboni Date: 22 Apr 2001 02:26:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20010421172655.A894@cec.wustl.edu> (Andrew Hesford's message of "Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:26:55 -0500") Message-ID: <86vgnx93ul.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) Emacs/21.0.102 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Hesford writes: Andrew> SCSI emulation is not the solution. If you want to use Andrew> cdrecord, push the developers to support ATAPI hardware. Yes, that's a solution too but it seems that the cdrecord developers ask themselves for a SCSI emulation on FreeBSD. So a endless cycle is beginning. In fact, it seems that the cdrecord developpers cannot be aware of all the subtelties of the different OS and that it's very difficult for them to provide a common ATAPI interface (as far it could be done). That's not an issue for SCSI, if i believe what i read. Andrew> I've never been fond of having hardware masquerade as Andrew> something else. I spoke about masquerade because some people complains about lack of cdrecord under FreeBSD with ATAPI devices. Sure, the solution is to buy SCSI devices but, sure also, ATAPI devices are cheaper and more common on low end boxes. Masquerading don't hurt me in such a situation: i use it every day to print postscript on my non postcript printer (even if it's only a matter of translation). Andrew> The only reason I used SCSI emulation in Linux is because Andrew> nobody over there has their act together enough to make an Andrew> ATAPI writing program. I'm very happy with burncd, but i think it's a pity to not be able to use such a well known program as cdrecord with FreeBSD as it's possible with other OS, that's all: i'm not a FreeBSD developer so i have to respect the team choice. I don't know if cdrecord with SCSI-emulation under Linux is better or not than burncd under FreeBSD but i never heard complains about that. -- Éric Jacoboni, né il y a 1291262516 secondes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 18:12: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtppop3pub.verizon.net (smtppop3pub.gte.net [206.46.170.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BCE37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:12:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cool.fox@verizon.net) Received: from localhost (lsanca1-ar8-040-035.dsl.gtei.net [4.35.40.35]) by smtppop3pub.verizon.net with ESMTP for ; id UAA1745016 Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:07:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200104220107.UAA1745016@smtppop3pub.verizon.net> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:12:04 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v387) From: Carl Peterson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.387) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD And OS X Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You may have gotten this question before, but it seems to me that BSD software would run in Apple's OS X. I just don't know wether this is a true assumption or not. Any help? Sincerely, Carl "Pete" Peterson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 18:15: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pop3.ids.net (pop3.ids.net [155.212.1.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE9537B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:14:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bobread@ids.net) Received: from ids.net (dialup175f.egr-ri.ids.net [155.212.222.175]) by pop3.ids.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f3M1EnN18558; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3AE23088.15F6C744@ids.net> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:14:48 -0400 From: Bob Read Reply-To: bobread@ids.net Organization: Church Of The Master [Baptist] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,el,Hebrew,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dotslash Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Pim Bliek Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD ........ Can someone please create a seperate list for this DISCUSSION? References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010421112232.00a7ada0@192.168.2.1> <006c01c0ca5e$f4d1f170$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems like a great discussion and of much value to this list. If it's annoying, select one of these posts, sort by subject, highlight all these posts together and do a delete on them all at once. It takes less time than reading this. Bob -- Bob Read Soli Deo Gloria-Solus Christus-Sola Gratia-Sola Fide-Sola Scriptura ____________________________________________________________ The Church of The Master [Baptist] Providence, Rhode Island http://users.ids.net/~bobread/cotm.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 18:16: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from truemetal.org (truemetal.org [206.168.16.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D073937B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:16:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from universe@truemetal.org) Received: (qmail 22577 invoked by alias); 22 Apr 2001 01:12:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO truemetal.org) (213.23.52.15) by truemetal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 2001 01:12:01 -0000 Message-ID: <3AE23012.A8573F50@truemetal.org> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:12:50 +0200 From: universe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carl Peterson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD And OS X References: <200104220107.UAA1745016@smtppop3pub.verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG doesn't matter, because running such a divine OS like FreeBSD (or its software packages respectively) under a macintosh environment/on a macintosh machine is just... BLASPHEMY! :) markus Carl Peterson wrote: > > You may have gotten this question before, but it seems to me that BSD > software would run in Apple's OS X. I just don't know wether this is a > true assumption or not. > > Any help? > > Sincerely, > Carl "Pete" Peterson > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 18:40:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (dav61.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.22.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8E637B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:40:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from want_2_learn_freebsd@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:40:56 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.144.200.55] From: "Doug Wilson" To: Subject: Apache - 403 Forbidden Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:40:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2001 01:40:56.0158 (UTC) FILETIME=[46385FE0:01C0CACD] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi list, I feel like a total failure lately because I cannot for the life of me get my virtual server under apache working. I installed apache and webmin from the ports (webmin to admin apache). I also put MRTG on it (the main reason to put apache). I got everything installed right (so it seems) and MRTG is updating it's logs, but S_IT, I consistently am unable to connect to the virtual server I have mrtg file running from. It's default server works great, but not the virtual server. I thought it was the underlying file permission, but have set all the files to 777, and any other number of schemes--don't think it is that. I have searched apache's site, and it talks about a malformed character in the httpd.conf file, but I don't have that malformed. If anyone has any quick ideas, I'd be glad to hear! Sorry if this is lame, but it is. Doug. PS: The critical thing here is, that I must get this up soon as my company has been ok with my toying around with FreeBSD, but if I don't present something useful--actually working--to them, their view with no doubt change. I know what will happen, they'll ask me to setup mrtg on win2k (which I can do like falling off a log it is so easy). I know that I could just put the files of mrtg into apache's default directory, but would rather not do that if I can prevent it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 18:55:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BF237B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:55:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3M32uT13255; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:02:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:02:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: Doug Wilson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache - 403 Forbidden In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Doug Wilson wrote: > Hi list, > > I feel like a total failure lately because I cannot for the life of me get > my virtual server under apache working. > > I installed apache and webmin from the ports (webmin to admin apache). I > also put MRTG on it (the main reason to put apache). I got everything > installed right (so it seems) and MRTG is updating it's logs, but S_IT, I > consistently am unable to connect to the virtual server I have mrtg file > running from. It's default server works great, but not the virtual server. > > I thought it was the underlying file permission, but have set all the files > to 777, and any other number of schemes--don't think it is that. I have > searched apache's site, and it talks about a malformed character in the > httpd.conf file, but I don't have that malformed. > > If anyone has any quick ideas, I'd be glad to hear! Sorry if this is lame, > but it is. Look at the Apache ErrorLog, I believe the default is /var/log/httpd-error.log. It will tell you exactly what the problem is. Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 19: 0:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from binky.de.uu.net (binky.de.uu.net [192.76.144.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223CB37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:00:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from CHUETTL@ahorn-Net.de) Received: from Marduk (pec-55-222.tnt2.b2.uunet.de [149.225.55.222]) by binky.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id EAA11608 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 04:00:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from Spooler by Marduk (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MO000087; 22 Apr 01 04:00:14 +0100 Received: from spooler by ahorn.sgh.uunet.de (Mercury/32 v3.21c); 21 Apr 01 23:13:21 +0100 From: "Carsten Huettl" Organization: ahorn.Net To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:10:18 +0200 Subject: mysql installation fails X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-ID: <5473B9A75D1@ahorn.sgh.uunet.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, here comes the next problem: I tried to install mysql but get the following msg: bash-2.04# pkg_add mysql-server-3.23.36.tgz Sorry, the host 'tiamat' could not be looked up. Please configure the 'hostname' command to return a correct hostname. If you want to solve this at a later stage, restart this script with the --force option pkg_add: command '/usr/local/bin/mysql_install_db' failed Added group "mysql". Added user "mysql". chown: /var/db/mysql: No such file or directory pkg_add: install script returned error status bash-2.04# How can I solve this problem? TIA C. ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- Carsten Huettl - pgp-key on request To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 19: 0:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from binky.de.uu.net (binky.de.uu.net [192.76.144.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFE537B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from CHUETTL@ahorn-Net.de) Received: from Marduk (pec-55-222.tnt2.b2.uunet.de [149.225.55.222]) by binky.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id EAA11614 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 04:00:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from Spooler by Marduk (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MO000085; 22 Apr 01 04:00:15 +0100 Received: from spooler by ahorn.sgh.uunet.de (Mercury/32 v3.21c); 21 Apr 01 23:11:20 +0100 From: "Carsten Huettl" Organization: ahorn.Net To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:09:18 +0200 Subject: (Fwd) Re: mysql installation fails X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-ID: <54565337AC4@ahorn.sgh.uunet.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ReHi Andreas, > What does > hostname > return? bash-2.04$ hostname tiamat.ahorn-Net.de > Do you have a line like > hostname="myhost.mydomain.com" > in your /etc/rc.conf file? hostname="tiamat.ahorn-Net.de" and in /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.ahorn-Net.de tiamat.ahorn- Net.de 192.168.10.20 tiamat tiamat.ahorn-Net.de C. ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- Carsten Huettl - pgp-key on request To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 19: 0:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from binky.de.uu.net (binky.de.uu.net [192.76.144.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BC937B42C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from CHUETTL@ahorn-Net.de) Received: from Marduk (pec-55-222.tnt2.b2.uunet.de [149.225.55.222]) by binky.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id EAA11618 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 04:00:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from Spooler by Marduk (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MO000089; 22 Apr 01 04:00:17 +0100 Received: from spooler by ahorn.sgh.uunet.de (Mercury/32 v3.21c); 21 Apr 01 23:41:37 +0100 From: "Carsten Huettl" Organization: ahorn.Net To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:37:47 +0200 Subject: pine says incomplete maildomain X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-ID: <5611F4C2AA3@ahorn.sgh.uunet.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, When I start pine it complains about: incomplete maildomain "localhost" Return adress in mail you sent my be incorrect. Where/How do I configure the maildomain for pine? TIA C. -- Carsten Huettl - pgp-key on request To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 19:12:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8A237B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:12:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@everest.wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14r9LW-0008rg-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 05:11:30 +0300 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 05:11:29 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-Q Subject: Moving Mail servers Message-ID: <20010422051129.A33555@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD everest.wananchi.com 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 5:06AM up 7:32, 4 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.06, 0.01 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Here is one for the scripting gurus - yes, like you ;-) I am changing servers but I have users mails amounting to 3GB on the old server. The mail is in /var/mail/$user. My new server is siting next to the old. Is there someone who knows a way to tell sendmail to send the mails out again????? I'll have changed my primary MX to point to the new server so that these emails are delivered into the new server. I know I can use formail -s sendmail user@domain < /var/mail/user but here is a case where I have over 2000 users!!!! Urgent help greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286, 00100-NAIROBI,KE. USER, n.: The word computer professionals use when they mean "idiot." -- Dave Barry, "Claw Your Way to the Top" --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE64j3Rn7LIsuxjem8RAjV+AKClo56tLXrmnwgHUn3dxLdCpJozCQCgo02b 8dhDh6cW/7ABcb36PG+1LJs= =aW0X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 19:18: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B303E37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:18:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5505C6ACBA; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:48:05 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:48:05 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Carl Peterson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD And OS X Message-ID: <20010422114805.H51968@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200104220107.UAA1745016@smtppop3pub.verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104220107.UAA1745016@smtppop3pub.verizon.net>; from cool.fox@verizon.net on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 06:12:04PM -0700 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 21 April 2001 at 18:12:04 -0700, Carl Peterson wrote: > You may have gotten this question before, but it seems to me that BSD > software would run in Apple's OS X. I just don't know wether this is a > true assumption or not. It's not clear just what you want to do. OS X and FreeBSD are both (related) operating systems. It should be possible to port FreeBSD programs to OS X, if that's what you mean. Note that the display system is *not* X, so X-based programs will probably not work. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 19:47:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-861.charter-stl.com [24.217.115.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F3137B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:47:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 291ADA834; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:46:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:46:38 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Carl Peterson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD And OS X Message-ID: <20010421214638.B20279@cec.wustl.edu> References: <200104220107.UAA1745016@smtppop3pub.verizon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104220107.UAA1745016@smtppop3pub.verizon.net>; from cool.fox@verizon.net on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 06:12:04PM -0700 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 06:12:04PM -0700, Carl Peterson wrote: > You may have gotten this question before, but it seems to me that BSD > software would run in Apple's OS X. I just don't know wether this is a > true assumption or not. > > Any help? > > Sincerely, > Carl "Pete" Peterson You will probably get more satisfying results if you ask this question on a Mac OS X related mailing list. Remember, the people who build software and maintain FreeBSD ports generally aren't concerned with making it work on OS X. Plus, I'll bet a good majority of users on this list haven't touched OS X... I suggest you find an OS X mailing list, get a list of programs you want to build, and post it there. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 19:54: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [216.106.246.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7B637B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin0.westbend.net [216.106.246.17]) by mail.westbend.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3M2rvR07354 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:53:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <01cc01c0cad7$3c5d49e0$11f66ad8@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: References: <987884078.3ae1ea2ed7c17@webmail.neomedia.it> Subject: Re: Restore Partition table Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:52:13 -0500 Organization: West Bend Interent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I accidentally wiped out the partition table on my system while trying to > > partition a new disk. > > > How can I recover the data from this drive? > I figured out a way to recover the drive: 1. You will need the following: 1 spare hard drive (daX) (same model and size as the one your restoring (daY)) Information on the size of each partition (root, swap, var, usr) that was on the drive (daY) Was the drive (daY) setup as "Dangerously Dedicated"? 2. Using sysinstall, fdisk and Label the spare drive (daX) with the same configuration as the drive (daY) you are restoring NOTE: When specifying the mount points for the spare drive (daX) use /, /mnt/usr, & /mnt/var. Then change the / mount point to /mnt ( This is to assign / to daXs1a). 3. Use dd to create a back up MBR for daX & daY: dd if=/dev/daY of=mbr-daY bs=512 count=1 dd if=/dev/daX of=mbr-daX bs=512 count=1 4. Use fdisk on daX to destroy the MBR (as a test) and then restore the MBR: fdisk -I daX dd if=mbr-daX of=/dev/daX bs=512 count=1 5. Check that /, /usr, & /var can be mounted from daX, and then unmount them. 6. Put daX's MBR on the drive to be restored (daY). dd if=mbr-daX of=/dev/daY bs=512 count=1 7. Check that /, /usr, & /var can be mounted from daY, and then unmount them. NOTE: If this doesn't work, then restore daY's MBR and try another way to restore the drive (try sysutils/gpart). Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 20: 9:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f253.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.16.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273B037B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:09:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnscharlesn@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:09:12 -0700 Received: from 64.20.170.234 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:09:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.20.170.234] From: "Charles Burns" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Remote "make world" safe? Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:09:12 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2001 03:09:12.0666 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B2F5BA0:01C0CAD9] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it generally safe to do a remote "make world" and reboot? I know that the handbook recommends switching to single user mode, but that is pretty tough to do when the server is across the country. :-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 20:24:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from forrie.net (forrie.net [216.67.14.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D871137B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:24:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from boom.forrie.com (forrie.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.132.133]) by forrie.net with id f3M3OlH13443 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010421232401.01e9aa20@216.67.14.69> X-Sender: forrie@216.67.14.69 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:24:05 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Forrest Aldrich Subject: Linux emulation problem with LD_LIBRARY_PATH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have FSAV (from F-Prot) running on FreeBSD-4.3RC. Every time I run it, it works fine... but when I go to run a standard FreeBSD binary, I get problems. For example: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc-client4.so.8" not found Connection closed by foreign host The solution has been to reboot and not run the linux binary. Has anyone else seen this problem... is there a workaround. _F To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 20:30:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cat.acs.sk (cat.acs.sk [212.89.228.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C46C37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:30:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomas@hodan.sk) Received: from th ([212.89.228.98]) by cat.acs.sk (8.11.3/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3M3WEF09649 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 05:32:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tomas@hodan.sk) From: "Tomas Hodan" To: Subject: Zcom LANEscape WL2420 driver Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 05:30:06 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi all, is in freebsd driver for zcom lanescape wl2420 ? thx tomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 20:32:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www3.pacific-pages.com (www3.pacific-pages.com [192.41.48.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4965A37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@www3.pacific-pages.com) Received: from d.tracker ([216.191.60.125]) by www3.pacific-pages.com (8.8.5) id VAA06020; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:31:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3M3RLB88761; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:27:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:25:04 -0400 From: David Banning To: Kent Stewart Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world error Message-ID: <20010421232503.A38198@www3.pacific-pages.com> Reply-To: David Banning References: <20010420150921.A665@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE08EF5.2FD89711@urx.com> <20010421132631.A305@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE1F036.40065FB@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AE1F036.40065FB@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 01:40:22PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At lease I am further down the track on fixing this. It appears from the web site that l am _not_ dealing with a memory problem, as the error always happens in the same place. The recommended "Signal 11" website suggests that the problem may be with cpp or the libraries. I recompiled the libraries and that did not help. > You might "cd /usr/obj" and "rm -rf *" to get a clean obj. You might have > problems with the chflags and have to noschg /usr/obj before you can remove > it all. OK - this is a good idea. I _did_ in fact find some files that had the chflags set: I am doing this now. > The rm will remove all it can first, which makes the chflags faster. > The default /root shell has a history and you aren't retyping much. > > FWIW, I had an old SuperMicro mobo that wouldn't take additional memory. I > could add 64MB in the 1st two slots and that was it. I eventually replaced > it with a P2B-B. That took me from a P-133 to a Celeron 433a. > > Kent > > > > > The main issue here is speed. The web site mentions a memory test, > > which takes 24 hours on a pentium 100. That takes a long time > > when trying this, trying that.. with my memory, bios etc.. > > > > > David Banning wrote: > > > > > > > > One thing I don;t understand about cvsupping and then making world > > > > is why there would be errors; if cvsup is insuring that > > > > every bit of code is up to date, then everybody's code is the same > > > > right? So how would I get errors different than the next guy? > > > > > > Well, it probably means you have some piece of hardware that is flaky. Read > > > http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ and see if you can figure out what is causing > > > it. > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > That said here is the errors of my most recent attempt; > > > > > > > > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl; make _EXTRADEPEND > > > > echo miniperl: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libm.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypt.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libutil.a >> .depend > > > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > > > > Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) > > > > Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) > > > > Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) > > > > Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 3) configuration: > > > > Platform: > > > > osname=freebsd, osvers=4.0-current, archname=i386-freebsd > > > > uname='FreeBSD freefall.FreeBSD.org 4.0-current FreeBSD 4.0-current #0: $Date$' > > > > hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define > > > > usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef > > > > Compiler: > > > > cc='cc', optimize='', gccversion=2.95.2 19991024 (release) > > > > cppflags='' > > > > ccflags ='' > > > > stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=undef, usevfork=true > > > > intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8 > > > > d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12 > > > > alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define > > > > Linker and Libraries: > > > > ld='cc', ldflags ='-Wl,-E -lperl -lm ' > > > > libpth=/usr/lib > > > > libs=-lm -lc -lcrypt > > > > libc=, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so.3 > > > > Dynamic Linking: > > > > dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' -Wl,-R/usr/lib' > > > > cccdlflags='-DPIC -fpic', lddlflags='-Wl,-E -shared -lperl -lm ' > > > > > > > > *** Signal 11 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 20:38:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9084537B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:38:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@tumbolia.com) Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23DF5EB2; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:37:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:37:59 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt X-Sender: dscheidt@shell-1.enteract.com To: Charles Burns Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote "make world" safe? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: :Is it generally safe to do a remote "make world" and reboot? I know that the :handbook recommends switching to single user mode, but that is pretty tough :to do when the server is across the country. :-) Of course, it's a really long drive to go fix things when they blow up, too. It's not a good idea to do this. It's possible, but it's not a good idea. Much better to get someone onsite to do it. If there's no one on site, why don't you have a serial console? -- dscheidt@tumbolia.com Bipedalism is only a fad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 20:50:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8394037B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:50:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A50F3BD01D0; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:50:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3AE2550F.115D79FA@urx.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:50:39 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Banning Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world error References: <20010420150921.A665@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE08EF5.2FD89711@urx.com> <20010421132631.A305@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE1F036.40065FB@urx.com> <20010421232503.A38198@www3.pacific-pages.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What are you version of FreeBSD are you trying to upgrade? Kent David Banning wrote: > > At lease I am further down the track on fixing this. It appears from the > web site that l am _not_ dealing with a memory problem, as the > error always happens in the same place. > > The recommended "Signal 11" website suggests that the problem may be > with cpp or the libraries. > I recompiled the libraries and that did not help. > > > You might "cd /usr/obj" and "rm -rf *" to get a clean obj. You might have > > problems with the chflags and have to noschg /usr/obj before you can remove > > it all. > OK - this is a good idea. > I _did_ in fact find some files that had the chflags set: > I am doing this now. > > > The rm will remove all it can first, which makes the chflags faster. > > The default /root shell has a history and you aren't retyping much. > > > > FWIW, I had an old SuperMicro mobo that wouldn't take additional memory. I > > could add 64MB in the 1st two slots and that was it. I eventually replaced > > it with a P2B-B. That took me from a P-133 to a Celeron 433a. > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > The main issue here is speed. The web site mentions a memory test, > > > which takes 24 hours on a pentium 100. That takes a long time > > > when trying this, trying that.. with my memory, bios etc.. > > > > > > > David Banning wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One thing I don;t understand about cvsupping and then making world > > > > > is why there would be errors; if cvsup is insuring that > > > > > every bit of code is up to date, then everybody's code is the same > > > > > right? So how would I get errors different than the next guy? > > > > > > > > Well, it probably means you have some piece of hardware that is flaky. Read > > > > http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ and see if you can figure out what is causing > > > > it. > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That said here is the errors of my most recent attempt; > > > > > > > > > > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl; make _EXTRADEPEND > > > > > echo miniperl: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libm.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypt.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libutil.a >> .depend > > > > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > > > > > Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) > > > > > Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) > > > > > Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) > > > > > Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 3) configuration: > > > > > Platform: > > > > > osname=freebsd, osvers=4.0-current, archname=i386-freebsd > > > > > uname='FreeBSD freefall.FreeBSD.org 4.0-current FreeBSD 4.0-current #0: $Date$' > > > > > hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define > > > > > usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef > > > > > Compiler: > > > > > cc='cc', optimize='', gccversion=2.95.2 19991024 (release) > > > > > cppflags='' > > > > > ccflags ='' > > > > > stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=undef, usevfork=true > > > > > intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8 > > > > > d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12 > > > > > alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define > > > > > Linker and Libraries: > > > > > ld='cc', ldflags ='-Wl,-E -lperl -lm ' > > > > > libpth=/usr/lib > > > > > libs=-lm -lc -lcrypt > > > > > libc=, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so.3 > > > > > Dynamic Linking: > > > > > dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' -Wl,-R/usr/lib' > > > > > cccdlflags='-DPIC -fpic', lddlflags='-Wl,-E -shared -lperl -lm ' > > > > > > > > > > *** Signal 11 > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 21: 5:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (dav60.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.22.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7AA37B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:05:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from want_2_learn_freebsd@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:05:09 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.144.200.55] From: "Doug Wilson" To: Subject: Re: Apache - 403 Forbidden - Resolution! Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:05:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2001 04:05:09.0018 (UTC) FILETIME=[6BBA07A0:01C0CAE1] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After much helpful input, I have now got virtual hosts working, and the meat of that is here: NameVirtualHost 10.7.1.112 DocumentRoot /home/wwwroot/mrtg ServerName mrtg.apc.net DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data ServerName kelly.apc.net I'd like to thank all who helped out--it really meant a lot, and this wasn't happening on my own! Doug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 21:14:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www3.pacific-pages.com (www3.pacific-pages.com [192.41.48.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E594537B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:14:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@www3.pacific-pages.com) Received: from d.tracker ([207.245.46.131]) by www3.pacific-pages.com (8.8.5) id WAA09548; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:13:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3M4AMT92956; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:10:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:09:00 -0400 From: David Banning To: Kent Stewart Cc: David Banning , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world error Message-ID: <20010422000900.A92059@www3.pacific-pages.com> Reply-To: David Banning References: <20010420150921.A665@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE08EF5.2FD89711@urx.com> <20010421132631.A305@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE1F036.40065FB@urx.com> <20010421232503.A38198@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE2550F.115D79FA@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AE2550F.115D79FA@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 08:50:39PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What are you version of FreeBSD are you trying to upgrade? I had successfully upgraded to 4.2 Stable. Then I attempted to load -current. The make world went OK, but I could not compile a new kernel. I realized that -current was putting me over my head, so I decided to go back to 4.2 - Initially I got all the way through the buildworld, but got errors 3/4 way through installworld. So I guess I'm using a 4.2 kernel with a 1/2 and 1/2 4.2/-current world right now. My goal is to get me back to a complete 4.2 world. > > Kent > > David Banning wrote: > > > > At lease I am further down the track on fixing this. It appears from the > > web site that l am _not_ dealing with a memory problem, as the > > error always happens in the same place. > > > > The recommended "Signal 11" website suggests that the problem may be > > with cpp or the libraries. > > I recompiled the libraries and that did not help. > > > > > You might "cd /usr/obj" and "rm -rf *" to get a clean obj. You might have > > > problems with the chflags and have to noschg /usr/obj before you can remove > > > it all. > > OK - this is a good idea. > > I _did_ in fact find some files that had the chflags set: > > I am doing this now. > > > > > The rm will remove all it can first, which makes the chflags faster. > > > The default /root shell has a history and you aren't retyping much. > > > > > > FWIW, I had an old SuperMicro mobo that wouldn't take additional memory. I > > > could add 64MB in the 1st two slots and that was it. I eventually replaced > > > it with a P2B-B. That took me from a P-133 to a Celeron 433a. > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > The main issue here is speed. The web site mentions a memory test, > > > > which takes 24 hours on a pentium 100. That takes a long time > > > > when trying this, trying that.. with my memory, bios etc.. > > > > > > > > > David Banning wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing I don;t understand about cvsupping and then making world > > > > > > is why there would be errors; if cvsup is insuring that > > > > > > every bit of code is up to date, then everybody's code is the same > > > > > > right? So how would I get errors different than the next guy? > > > > > > > > > > Well, it probably means you have some piece of hardware that is flaky. Read > > > > > http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ and see if you can figure out what is causing > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That said here is the errors of my most recent attempt; > > > > > > > > > > > > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl; make _EXTRADEPEND > > > > > > echo miniperl: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libm.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypt.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libutil.a >> .depend > > > > > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > > > > > > Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) > > > > > > Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) > > > > > > Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) > > > > > > Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 3) configuration: > > > > > > Platform: > > > > > > osname=freebsd, osvers=4.0-current, archname=i386-freebsd > > > > > > uname='FreeBSD freefall.FreeBSD.org 4.0-current FreeBSD 4.0-current #0: $Date$' > > > > > > hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define > > > > > > usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef > > > > > > Compiler: > > > > > > cc='cc', optimize='', gccversion=2.95.2 19991024 (release) > > > > > > cppflags='' > > > > > > ccflags ='' > > > > > > stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=undef, usevfork=true > > > > > > intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8 > > > > > > d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12 > > > > > > alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define > > > > > > Linker and Libraries: > > > > > > ld='cc', ldflags ='-Wl,-E -lperl -lm ' > > > > > > libpth=/usr/lib > > > > > > libs=-lm -lc -lcrypt > > > > > > libc=, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so.3 > > > > > > Dynamic Linking: > > > > > > dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' -Wl,-R/usr/lib' > > > > > > cccdlflags='-DPIC -fpic', lddlflags='-Wl,-E -shared -lperl -lm ' > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Signal 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 21:18: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13702.mail.yahoo.com (web13702.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ACE5E37B43E for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:18:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_stuff@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010422041801.82366.qmail@web13702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.111.2.246] by web13702.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:18:01 PDT Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:18:01 -0700 (PDT) From: - - Subject: Can't start X To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I just downloaded and installed "XFree86 4.0.2 Released". Here is what I did... 1) Downloaded the following files: Xinstall.sh, extract, Xdoc.tgz, Xfenc.tgz, Xlib.tgz, mod.tgz, Xxserv.tgz, Xbin.tgz, Xetc.tgz, Xfnts.tgz, Xman.tgz, and Xvar.tgz 2) installed using the below command: #sh ./Xinstall.sh 3) then, I ran xf86configurator. 4) startx After running 'startx', a while later, it comes back to the console with the following errors: ... /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found How can I fix this problem? Can I just get the file from another FreeBSD box and place it in the right directory? Any comments or ideas would be greatly appreciated! TIA, kero __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 21:59:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www3.pacific-pages.com (www3.pacific-pages.com [192.41.48.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2528537B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:59:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@www3.pacific-pages.com) Received: from d.tracker ([207.245.46.131]) by www3.pacific-pages.com (8.8.5) id WAA13183; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:58:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by d.tracker (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3M4ilD95285; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:44:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:43:45 -0400 From: David Banning To: Kent Stewart Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world error Message-ID: <20010422004345.A94814@www3.pacific-pages.com> Reply-To: David Banning References: <20010420150921.A665@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE08EF5.2FD89711@urx.com> <20010421132631.A305@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE1F036.40065FB@urx.com> <20010421232503.A38198@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE2550F.115D79FA@urx.com> <20010422000900.A92059@www3.pacific-pages.com> <3AE25D69.F5ECDBDC@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AE25D69.F5ECDBDC@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 09:26:17PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK. Thanks for your ear anyway. But if I do make a clean install, I will be using 4.0 cdroms. I am worried that doing a fresh install will wipe certain files I need, or worse... Do you have any pointers? > > > > > What are you version of FreeBSD are you trying to upgrade? > > I had successfully upgraded to 4.2 Stable. Then I attempted to load > > -current. The make world went OK, but I could not compile a new > > kernel. I realized that -current was putting me over my head, so I decided > > to go back to 4.2 - Initially I got all the way through the buildworld, > > but got errors 3/4 way through installworld. So I guess I'm using a > > 4.2 kernel with a 1/2 and 1/2 4.2/-current world right now. > > > > My goal is to get me back to a complete 4.2 world. > > I had thought about many possible combinations but this was not one of them. > Backing up to version 4.2 may not be possible using source code. The usual > comment is that a clean install is required. > > You will have to depend on someone with more knowledge about this than I > have. > > Kent > > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > David Banning wrote: > > > > > > > > At lease I am further down the track on fixing this. It appears from the > > > > web site that l am _not_ dealing with a memory problem, as the > > > > error always happens in the same place. > > > > > > > > The recommended "Signal 11" website suggests that the problem may be > > > > with cpp or the libraries. > > > > I recompiled the libraries and that did not help. > > > > > > > > > You might "cd /usr/obj" and "rm -rf *" to get a clean obj. You might have > > > > > problems with the chflags and have to noschg /usr/obj before you can remove > > > > > it all. > > > > OK - this is a good idea. > > > > I _did_ in fact find some files that had the chflags set: > > > > I am doing this now. > > > > > > > > > The rm will remove all it can first, which makes the chflags faster. > > > > > The default /root shell has a history and you aren't retyping much. > > > > > > > > > > FWIW, I had an old SuperMicro mobo that wouldn't take additional memory. I > > > > > could add 64MB in the 1st two slots and that was it. I eventually replaced > > > > > it with a P2B-B. That took me from a P-133 to a Celeron 433a. > > > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The main issue here is speed. The web site mentions a memory test, > > > > > > which takes 24 hours on a pentium 100. That takes a long time > > > > > > when trying this, trying that.. with my memory, bios etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Banning wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One thing I don;t understand about cvsupping and then making world > > > > > > > > is why there would be errors; if cvsup is insuring that > > > > > > > > every bit of code is up to date, then everybody's code is the same > > > > > > > > right? So how would I get errors different than the next guy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, it probably means you have some piece of hardware that is flaky. Read > > > > > > > http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ and see if you can figure out what is causing > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That said here is the errors of my most recent attempt; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl; make _EXTRADEPEND > > > > > > > > echo miniperl: /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libc.a /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl/libperl.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libm.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypt.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libutil.a >> .depend > > > > > > > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > > > > > > > > Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) > > > > > > > > Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) > > > > > > > > Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) > > > > > > > > Summary of my perl5 (5.0 patchlevel 5 subversion 3) configuration: > > > > > > > > Platform: > > > > > > > > osname=freebsd, osvers=4.0-current, archname=i386-freebsd > > > > > > > > uname='FreeBSD freefall.FreeBSD.org 4.0-current FreeBSD 4.0-current #0: $Date$' > > > > > > > > hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define > > > > > > > > usethreads=undef useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef > > > > > > > > Compiler: > > > > > > > > cc='cc', optimize='', gccversion=2.95.2 19991024 (release) > > > > > > > > cppflags='' > > > > > > > > ccflags ='' > > > > > > > > stdchar='char', d_stdstdio=undef, usevfork=true > > > > > > > > intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8 > > > > > > > > d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12 > > > > > > > > alignbytes=4, usemymalloc=n, prototype=define > > > > > > > > Linker and Libraries: > > > > > > > > ld='cc', ldflags ='-Wl,-E -lperl -lm ' > > > > > > > > libpth=/usr/lib > > > > > > > > libs=-lm -lc -lcrypt > > > > > > > > libc=, so=so, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.so.3 > > > > > > > > Dynamic Linking: > > > > > > > > dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' -Wl,-R/usr/lib' > > > > > > > > cccdlflags='-DPIC -fpic', lddlflags='-Wl,-E -shared -lperl -lm ' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Signal 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. > > > > > > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. > > > > > > -- > > > Kent Stewart > > > Richland, WA > > > > > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > > > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > -- In 1915 pancake make-up was invented but most people still preferred syrup. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 22:14:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4C7B37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:14:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 14185 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2001 05:14:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpu563) (195.229.53.40) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 2001 05:14:49 -0000 Message-ID: <00b601c0caeb$031ea840$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> From: "dotslash" To: "Nick Mazza" , References: Subject: Re: ports Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:59:35 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG that shouldn't be happening. what's your ports-supfile like? did you double checked it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Mazza" To: Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:45 AM Subject: ports > I am running 4.3rc2 and am having a problem installing packages froom ports. > I login as root and go to my desired port and type make install and it > starts to try and connect to the ftp sites and I get Permission denied > several times then an error 1. Is this common or am i doing something > wrong. please help > > Nick Mazza > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 22:14:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from linif.org (www.linif.org [204.228.204.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AC5C37B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:14:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dotslash@linif.org) Received: (qmail 14188 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2001 05:14:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cpu563) (195.229.53.40) by www.linif.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 2001 05:14:52 -0000 Message-ID: <00b701c0caeb$050c4770$2903010a@atg.altayer.com> From: "dotslash" To: , References: <20010421201456.91BF436F9@sitemail.everyone.net> Subject: Re: Installation problem Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 09:02:42 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i too find that fbsd installation even from cd is temperamental. in my installation, i get a media error of sorts after reinstalling for the Nth time. funny thing is the first few installs where fine. maybe it's the cd. maybe it's my drive. *shrugs*. what i suggested you can do is try again and make sure your hw are not faulty. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mohammad Ikram" To: Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:14 AM Subject: Installation problem > I am trying to install freeBSD and when it comes to extracting files from the CD drive it says can not extract /bin into directory. > While i installed freeBSD a few days ago and it was fine, suddenly it is giving these problems can i have some help > NEW TO freeBSD > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get your spam-free, Linux email now --> http://www.LinuxWaves.com > Join Linux discussions --> http://Community.LinuxWaves.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 22:19: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D13537B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:19:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3M5Isk54814; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Sheldon Hearn" , "Alex Charalabidis" Cc: Subject: RE: Detecting mail client capabilities Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:18:54 -0700 Message-ID: <00a301c0caeb$b944e800$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <57914.987867085@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Sheldon Hearn > > >On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:29:53 EST, Alex Charalabidis wrote: > >> I suppose you could extract user agent, system and display information >> from the HTTP request--all those javascript-enabled web browsers >> volunteer plenty of information--and use the data to make an educated >> guess which will be correct 98% of the time. > >This is what I suggested to my employers, who're insisting that there's >some other "e-mail sniffer" that you "send to the client" that isn't >what I'm suggesting. :-) > There is a way to extract the e-mail address from a Microsoft browser, if you search around on the net you will find a website put up by some guy that demonstrates the technique. Extraction takes place without the user's knowledge, of course. Only problem is that the method only works on Microsoft browsers, and it only retrieves the e-mail address that the user has typed into their Outlook Express (Or Outlook) if they are using Eudora or any other mail client then that e-mail address can be bogus, of course. Also I believe that there is a way to disable the "feature" if your a MS browser user and you don't wish to get your e-mail address extracted without your knowledge. In my opinion there's serious privacy and ethical issues with obtaining information without the consent of the user. Think long and hard before you implement something like this for your employers - would you really like this to be done to you when you surf the net? Frankly, in my opinion, networking types (like most of the folks that read this mailing list) have a moral responsibility that is over and above that of anyone else to keep the Internet from being abused by those who don't appear to have any scruples about invading people's privacy. The facts are that 99% of the managers that are this morally bankrupt are unable to implement privacy-invading techniques on their network - so they usually attempt to pay someone like us to do it for them. It is not that hard for you or I to implement these sorts of things, and if we do then we are helping to bring the day closer when the people revolt and demand tight governmental regulation of the Internet to stop this sort of thing. I know that I couldn't look myself in the mirror every morning nor expect my children to hold me in any kind of respect if I implemented these sorts of things so I do not. I hope you feel the same. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 22:35:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8BE37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:35:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3M5ZDk54855; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:35:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Eric Jacoboni" , Subject: RE: Duplicating Audio CDs Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:35:13 -0700 Message-ID: <00b801c0caee$00f41fc0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <86vgnx93ul.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Eric Jacoboni > >I spoke about masquerade because some people complains about lack of >cdrecord under FreeBSD with ATAPI devices. Sure, the solution is to >buy SCSI devices but, sure also, ATAPI devices are cheaper and more >common on low end boxes. Masquerading don't hurt me in such a I have heard that the ATAPI standard for CDROM's basically is the SCSI standard - the ATAPI developers stole most of the SCSI commands from SCSI-2 and put it on ATAPI. I would suspect that an emulation layer would not be tremendously difficult to write - for at least a basic CDROM. Of course the devil is in the details and it would rapidly get more complicated as more and more oddball devices were supported. > >I'm very happy with burncd, but i think it's a pity to not be able to >use such a well known program as cdrecord with FreeBSD as it's >possible with other OS, that's all: i'm not a FreeBSD developer so i >have to respect the team choice. I don't know if cdrecord with The FreeBSD core team has not made any kind of a decision to DENY an emulation layer that I have heard of. If someone wants to write one I would guess that they would include it. >SCSI-emulation under Linux is better or not than burncd under FreeBSD >but i never heard complains about that. > Then it seems that the task before you is clear - write such an emulation layer. We would all be happy to see it. I myself thought about writing an emulation layer for about 20 microseconds once. I decided that my time was worth enough that I could spend the extra $100 bucks on a SCSI burner, rather than the 200 hours or so it would take me to do a project like this. Also, by spending the $100 bucks I was guarenteed to have a solution that worked - whereas if I attempted to write one then I had no guarentee that I could ever produce a working piece of code. I think that everybody else have made the same decision in FreeBSD which is why there is no emulation layer. Apparently, over in the Linux camp, there is a developer who actually could produce a working emulation layer that didn't come to the same cost-benefit conclusion that we did over here. This just goes to show that no matter how unprofitable an idea is, there is always someone who will do it. Too bad that guy doesen't work on FreeBSD. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 22:47:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE1137B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:47:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graywane@home.com) Received: from michael.example.net ([65.2.79.221]) by femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010422054706.OKEE17191.femail9.sdc1.sfba.home.com@michael.example.net> for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:47:06 -0700 Received: (from graywane@localhost) by michael.example.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f3M5l5G04330 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:47:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from graywane) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:47:04 -0400 From: Graywane To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Duplicating Audio CDs Message-ID: <20010422014704.A4309@home.com> References: <86vgnx93ul.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> <00b801c0caee$00f41fc0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00b801c0caee$00f41fc0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>; from tedm@toybox.placo.com on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 10:35:13PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 10:35:13PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > I myself thought about writing an emulation layer for about 20 microsecon= ds > once. I decided that my time was worth enough that I could spend the ext= ra > $100 bucks on a SCSI burner, rather than the 200 hours or so it would take > me to do a project like this. Whereas I found taking a few extra seconds to type dd/burncd commands rather than having a program do it for me was well worth a $100 savings. --=20 Note: See http://www.members.home.net/graywane/ for PGP information. --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjricFcACgkQeHdFaBWUGN1/rgCfcpvs6E02wkkrKy1AlL1URLET FrYAn0MV7LL9gm7sh0PHS3XVBkNpSQvg =GDA2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 22:56:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kitkat.hotpop.com (kitkat.hotpop.com [204.57.55.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C414D37B424; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:56:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from softlandindia@hotpop.com) Received: from hotpop.com (unknown [204.57.55.31]) by kitkat.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CF983043A; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 05:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from a8h5k4.hotpop.com (unknown [61.1.220.196]) by zagnut.hotpop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D321750013; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 05:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010422111750.009ea5d0@pop.hotpop.com> X-Sender: softlandindia@pop.hotpop.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:28:02 +0530 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Murali Kumar Subject: FreeBSD 4.3 Cc: asami@FreeBSD.org;, dg@FreeBSD.org;, jkh@FreeBSD.org;, grog@FreeBSD.org;, imp@FreeBSD.org;, dfr@FreeBSD.org;, msmith@FreeBSD.org;, rwatson@FreeBSD.org;, peter@FreeBSD.org; Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_8951661==_.ALT" X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=====================_8951661==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear Sir, Congratulations on Your Successful Release of FreeBSD 4.3 . 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Kulraj ----- Original Message ----- From: Murali Kumar To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: asami@FreeBSD.org ; dg@FreeBSD.org ; jkh@FreeBSD.org ; grog@FreeBSD.org ; imp@FreeBSD.org ; dfr@FreeBSD.org ; msmith@FreeBSD.org ; rwatson@FreeBSD.org ; peter@FreeBSD.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:58 PM Subject: FreeBSD 4.3 Dear Sir, Congratulations on Your Successful Release of FreeBSD 4.3 . Please Check this Page: http://www.softlandindia.com/Linux/BSDDistributions.htm We would like to REVIEW Full set for our "SOFTWARE OF THIS WEEK" Feature. So Please Send US Complimentary FreeBSD 4.3 CDs Pack with Manuals. Please Mention as GIFT in Customs Declaration Form. Please acknowledge and Send You SUGGESTIONS. Our Mailing Address: SOFTLANDINDIA.COM K.Murali Kumar, 184 - J, HIGHWAYS COLONY, SALEM - 636005, TAMILNADU, INDIA. PHONE Nos: +91-427-441441 and +91-427-332020 Thanking You, With Kind Regards K.Murali Kumar Webmaster http://www.softlandindia.com/Linux/ Email Ids: linuxsoftlandindia@hotpop.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, send email to: linuxsoftlandindia@hotpop.com SubJect: Unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 23:28: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13607.mail.yahoo.com (web13607.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B6E737B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:27:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bzdik@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010422062757.82453.qmail@web13607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.122.12.184] by web13607.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:27:57 PDT Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:27:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: RE: Duplicating Audio CDs To: Ted Mittelstaedt , Eric Jacoboni , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <00b801c0caee$00f41fc0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After fighting with ATAPI issues + CDRWIN/Nero + "foreign file format" on the 7 billion Win2K, I also surrended and bought a nice SCSI burner. Over a year after, I still can't understand why I was so ...ahem... to resist. This SCSI emulation looks like backward language translation contest: the result rarely gets as good as original. Sometimes dragon wins :-). I guess I was more agreeable to put up with the "issues" on *nix platforms. "It's Psychology, stupid... " I told myself yet another time. --- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Eric > Jacoboni > > > >I spoke about masquerade because some people complains about lack of > >cdrecord under FreeBSD with ATAPI devices. Sure, the solution is to > >buy SCSI devices but, sure also, ATAPI devices are cheaper and more > >common on low end boxes. Masquerading don't hurt me in such a > > I have heard that the ATAPI standard for CDROM's basically is the > SCSI standard - the ATAPI developers stole most of the SCSI commands > from SCSI-2 and put it on ATAPI. I would suspect that an emulation > layer > would not be tremendously difficult to write - for at least a basic > CDROM. Of course the devil is in the details and it would rapidly > get > more complicated as more and more oddball devices were supported. > > > > >I'm very happy with burncd, but i think it's a pity to not be able > to > >use such a well known program as cdrecord with FreeBSD as it's > >possible with other OS, that's all: i'm not a FreeBSD developer so i > >have to respect the team choice. I don't know if cdrecord with > > The FreeBSD core team has not made any kind of a decision to DENY > an emulation layer that I have heard of. If someone wants to write > one > I would guess that they would include it. > > >SCSI-emulation under Linux is better or not than burncd under > FreeBSD > >but i never heard complains about that. > > > > Then it seems that the task before you is clear - write such an > emulation > layer. We would all be happy to see it. > > I myself thought about writing an emulation layer for about 20 > microseconds > once. I decided that my time was worth enough that I could spend the > extra > $100 bucks on a SCSI burner, rather than the 200 hours or so it would > take > me to do a project like this. Also, by spending the $100 bucks I was > guarenteed > to have a solution that worked - whereas if I attempted to write one > then > I had no guarentee that I could ever produce a working piece of code. > > I think that everybody else have made the same decision in FreeBSD > which is > why there is no emulation layer. Apparently, over in the Linux camp, > there > is a developer who actually could produce a working emulation layer > that > didn't come to the same cost-benefit conclusion that we did over > here. This > just goes to show that no matter how unprofitable an idea is, there > is > always someone who will do it. Too bad that guy doesen't work on > FreeBSD. > > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 23:53:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.carracing.com (mail.carracing.com [12.24.160.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131EF37B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:53:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@carracing.com) Received: from localhost (bill@localhost) by mail.carracing.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA66584 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 02:53:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 02:53:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Desjardins To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD as a hi-perf router Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am looking to setup a FreeBSD based router running a bunch of 4 port 100Mbit cards. The machine I have slated for this is a Compaq 2500 running dual Pentium Pro's (200Mhz/512k). I am planning to use this as a co-lo router running dummynet for customers on their own network segments. My question is...is anyone using FreeBSD under these conditions and what type of performance may I expect out of it? I eventually plan to get another 100Mbit from another provider and run BGP4 via GateD. Is this reasonably feasable? I expect bandwidth to easily exceed 40Mbit up to 60Mbit possibly. By then I hope to have saved enough for a large cisco, but until then I am very cost limited As for reliability, the compaq has a raid which I plan to run raid 0/1 for the best reliability. I have also thought about using pico BSD, but havent researched it enough to see if it is feasable. Suggestions,Comments tips & pointers, greatly appreciated. regards, Bill -- Bill Desjardins - bill@carracing.com - (USA) 305.205.8644 Unix/Network Consulting - perl/mod_perl/SQL development http://www.CarRacing.com - Powered by FreeBSD/mod_perl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 23:59:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mr200.netcologne.de (mr200.netcologne.de [194.8.194.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C604937B42C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pherman@frenchfries.net) Received: from husten.security.at12.de (dial-213-168-91-143.netcologne.de [213.168.91.143]) by mr200.netcologne.de (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AEC90179; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:59:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.security.at12.de [127.0.0.1]) by husten.security.at12.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3M6x4q71959; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:59:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pherman@frenchfries.net) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:59:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Paul Herman To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FBSD-Q Subject: Re: Moving Mail servers In-Reply-To: <20010422051129.A33555@everest.wananchi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Wash, On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I am changing servers but I have users mails amounting to 3GB on > the old server. The mail is in /var/mail/$user. My new server is > siting next to the old. Is there someone who knows a way to tell > sendmail to send the mails out again????? If the users are the same, it's easy. First, copy the mailboxes over to the new machine (with tar/ftp, or NFS, etc...) into a temporary directory, say /tmp/mail. Then do something like: umask 077 cd /tmp/mail for mailbox in *; do if [ -e /var/mail/${mailbox}.lock ] then echo "Mailbox for ${mailbox} busy, please do by hand" else touch /var/mail/${mailbox}.lock cat ${mailbox} >> /var/mail/${mailbox} chown ${mailbox} /var/mail/${mailbox} > /dev/null 2>&1 rm /var/mail/${mailbox}.lock fi done There might be a race condition on very busy servers, but this should be OK for most. If for some reason an old user doesn't exist on the new machine, you can "find /var/mail -type f -user root" and deal with them accordingly. If the usernames are different, then this is more difficult. :-) -Paul. 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