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Date:      Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:10:57 +0100
From:      "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
To:        <lonnie@outstep.com>
Cc:        "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD and restricting users
Message-ID:  <00f401c188ea$d0829c70$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
References:  <01C188B0.4CDDA3E0@VAIO> <20011219223131.GC30574@dan.emsphone.com> <1008800406.3c2112967d195@mail.outstep.com>

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What about virtual servers?  Rather high overhead, but it's practically like
giving them their own machine.  I don't know how well it would support X
applications, though, and I'm not sure that it actually allows you to lock
users out of the rest of the machine.

----- Original Message -----
From: <lonnie@outstep.com>
To: "Dan Nelson" <dnelson@allantgroup.com>
Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 23:20
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and restricting users


> Thanks Dan,
>
> This is the same solution that I have already found from the Linux side as
well
> and is currently not an option for our particular impolementation.
>
> We really need to be able to limit the users from navigaiting out of their
HOME
> directories for this particular SPECIAL project.
>
> I just saw something on the FreeBSD website about "sandboxes" that might
be
> interesting in this respect, but I am not sure if it would be possible to
put
> each user graphicl login session into a "sandbox".
>
> Best Regards,
> Lonnie
>
> Quoting Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com>:
>
> > In the last episode (Dec 19), Lonnie Cumberland said:
> > > The basic problem is this. It is very easy to keep a user from
> > > entering into a directory after they have logged in, but it is VERY
> > > hard to keep a user locked into their HOME directory.
> > >
> > > We have looked at chrooted solutions as well, but they fail when a
> > > user logs in through XDM and start up an application like Netscape
> > or
> > > StarOffice. Once that happens, they are free to navigate throughout
> > > the system.
> > >
> > > Can FreeBSD solve the problem of preventing a user from leaving
> > their
> > > HOME directory while still allowing them to run OpenOffice?
> >
> > If you really truly don't want them seeing anything outside their
> > $HOME, chroot is your only choice.  Create a minimal /etc, /lib, /bin
> > etc in each homedir and you should be set.  Note you'll have to
> > replicate most of /usr/X11R6 for any X app to work.
> >
> > What exactly are you trying to keep users from doing?  A standard
> > install should not expose any private info or leave directories
> > incorrectly writable.  Just because they can browse into /etc doesn't
> > mean they can do anything.
> >
> > --
> > Dan Nelson
> > dnelson@allantgroup.com
> >
>
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