From owner-freebsd-tcltk@freebsd.org Tue Feb 19 11:12:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-tcltk@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7940B14ECC69 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC7E829C3 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E245214ECC5F; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: tcltk@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE15A14ECC5B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46C1E829B6; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from [10.0.2.26] ([118.210.27.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id x1JBBp3p080694 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 19 Feb 2019 21:41:57 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.2 \(3445.102.3\)) Subject: Re: No man pages by default From: "Daniel O'Connor" In-Reply-To: <20190219085859.tqltpq42i3tsppjl@ptrcrt.ch> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 21:41:50 +1030 Cc: "tcltk@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6B7FF9D6-E4F4-4FFD-BF87-6CC5A738A95C@gsoft.com.au> References: <20190219085859.tqltpq42i3tsppjl@ptrcrt.ch> To: Pietro Cerutti X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-Spam-Score: -0.022 () BAYES_00,HELO_MISC_IP,RDNS_NONE X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 203.31.81.10 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46C1E829B6 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.64 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.64)[-0.642,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-tcltk@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Tcl/Tk discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:12:20 -0000 > On 19 Feb 2019, at 19:28, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > On Feb 19 2019, 06:47 UTC, Daniel O'Connor = wrote: >> Oops a co-worker reminded me I asked this in the past :) >>=20 >> A suggestion then was to use MAN_SUFFIX to avoid collisions with = multiple Tcl versions being installed simultaneously so I'll see about = creating patches to do that. >=20 > Hi Daniel, >=20 > the Tcl/Tk ports already use MAN_SUFFIX to avoid conflicts when = installing multiple versions. Moreover, man pages don't imply any = additional dependencies and the additional disk space needed is in my = opinion reasonable (lang/tcl86 is 7.66MiB without vs. 8.74MiB with = manpages on my system). >=20 > Given these reasons, I have changed the default options of Tcl/Tk 85, = 86 and 87 so that man pages are installed by default. Well, that was easy, thanks :) > Additionally, I have also enabled the installation of TZ data by = default. OK, to be honest I have no idea what that does - I always assumed it = just used the base TZ data which was up to date anyway so it was not a = particularly valuable option. > The relevant commit is r493355. Thanks again! > Thanks, >=20 >>=20 >>> On 19 Feb 2019, at 17:02, Daniel O'Connor = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi, >>> We use Tcl/Tk on FreeBSD for a lot of work things (running radar = systems) and one annoying bug bear is the lack of man pages by default. >>>=20 >>> The commit to disable them = (https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=3Drevision&revision=3D229081) = doesn't say why so I was wondering if anyone knew, and if there would be = any objections to changing the default? >>>=20 >>> We would very much like to transition to using FreeBSD default = packages wherever possible and this would be very helpful. >>>=20 >>> I did have a look in bugzilla but I couldn't find anything (apart = from a few name conflicts which were fixed with some man page renames). >>>=20 >>> Any information / feedback much appreciated. >>>=20 >>> Thanks. >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer >>> for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au >>> "The nice thing about standards is that there >>> are so many of them to choose from." >>> -- Andrew Tanenbaum >>>=20 >=20 > --=20 > Pietro Cerutti -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum