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Date:      Thu, 2 Mar 2000 20:08:15 +0100
From:      Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
To:        Jonathon McKitrick <jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>, Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-chat <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: any news on w2k in the world?
Message-ID:  <v04220828b4e46b180959@[195.238.1.121]>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003021850270.93707-100000@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003021850270.93707-100000@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>

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At 6:54 PM +0000 2000/3/2, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:

>  Setting security aside for the moment, what about other issues?
>  Overall stability, speed, hardware support, administration,
>  scalability, etc.

	Can you actually administer the bloody thing remotely, or are you 
stuck to putting a console on every machine?  How many users can you 
get on a single server -- is it more than 100?


	Have you ever had a network where you had 6,000 users and you 
tried to support them on servers where you had to have a keyboard, 
monitor, and mouse attached to each and every server, and each server 
could only support 100 users?  Talk about your nightmares....

	Let's not start on the subject of rebooting the server to install 
any new software, or fix even the most trivial of problems ("Damn. 
Exchange crashed again.  Now I have to reboot to get it to 
restart."), or re-installing the OS every five minutes if there is a 
serious problem.


	Yeah, right.

>  I am concerned about all this because i *just* got into Unix, and i
>  hoped pursuing a job in the field isn't a waste of time.  Now M$
>  appears with a 'Unix-slayer' OS, at least in their minds, and they put
>  enough time into development and testing to raise a few eyebrows.  And
>  unlike previous releases, this one is really getting good reviews.

	It's a demo.  Everyone rants and raves about demos.  Let them try 
to drive that carboard car with an aluminum foil engine, and they 
won't think so highly of the flashy demo.

>  I just heard from someone recently about several banks that switched
>  to NT from Unix.  I thought banks would stick to the most robust
>  systems.  Apparently i was wrong.

	Pay them enough money to take crap and they'll bite, just like 
everyone else.

-- 
  These are my opinions and should not be taken as official Skynet policy
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