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Date:      Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:00:08 +0100
From:      John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>,  Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>, Alex Kozlov <ak@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r374800 - head/Mk/Uses
Message-ID:  <5492C1C8.6020308@marino.st>
In-Reply-To: <20141218111154.GA21894@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
References:  <201412161206.sBGC6fa5045717@svn.freebsd.org> <54902709.9090801@marino.st> <71EBD6FD6D89266B6651554A@ogg.in.absolight.net> <20141216133802.GA27647@ravenloft.kiev.ua> <5B209A4BD7689CD74744CFA7@ogg.in.absolight.net> <20141216141320.GA28332@ravenloft.kiev.ua> <20141216142422.GA38033@FreeBSD.org> <5490DFDB.5080000@FreeBSD.org> <20141218111154.GA21894@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>

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On 12/18/2014 12:11, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 07:43:55PM -0600, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>> On 12/16/2014 8:24 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 04:13:20PM +0200, Alex Kozlov wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 02:47:09PM +0100, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>>>> +--On 16 d'ecembre 2014 15:38:02 +0200 Alex Kozlov <ak@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>>>>> | Allow me to ask, why it should be 8 and not 4?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because a tabulation is 8 spaces.  It should be consistent over the whole
>>>>> ports tree.
>>>>
>>>> Well, 'Please view me with 4 column tabs!' line was added to bsd.port.mk
>>>> more than 20 year ago, in rev 69, because it's inconvenient to view it with
>>>> default tabulation value: many wrapped lines, indentation too deep, etc.
>>>
>>> I think I agree with Alex here.  While most of us prefer ts=8, I don't see
>>> the need to reindent some files, most notably b.p.m., as it will completely
>>> jeopardize its history and make 'svn blame' basically useless.
>>>
>>> Even with editors that cannot grok ex:ts=X hints, its not that hard to do it
>>> manually every time you need to view/edit these files.  I do it all the time
>>> with nvi(1).
>>>
>>> ./danfe
>>>
>>
>> As a vendor who maintains a forked ports tree, I despise this commit and
>> all of the ones below. It makes carrying out customizations very
>> difficult. Yes, it doesn't *look* good on the eyes, but reindenting on
>> such large files with large history maintained by > 1 person is a sin.
>>
>>
> Wow that makes impressive to quote that whole list of commits, among those
> changes a few are really changing things more than a few comments, and most of
> which are files that are either removed and/or heavily worked on at the time,
> there are yes 1 or 2 maybe controversial here but that is all.
> 

I'm a bit disappointed that "svn blame" output is considered more
important than doing the right thing, myself.  It's a tool, not a
constitutional by-law.  Just fix all the Mk files at once.

John



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