From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 13 14:04:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F3816A41F for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:04:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christian.damm@diewebmaster.at) Received: from materva.diewebmaster.at (materva.diewebmaster.at [80.66.42.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D25343D46 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:04:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from christian.damm@diewebmaster.at) Received: from localhost (materva.diewebmaster.at [80.66.42.216]) by materva.diewebmaster.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545EBFBF239; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:06:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from materva.diewebmaster.at ([80.66.42.216]) by localhost (materva.diewebmaster.at [80.66.42.216]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 78575-07; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:06:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (da.diewebmaster.at [192.168.1.14]) by materva.diewebmaster.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7FFFBF20A; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:06:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43C7B308.9050109@diewebmaster.at> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:02:48 +0100 From: Christian Damm User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4.1 (Windows/20051006) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Anderson References: <375DD163B075E34EA3C10A6286E34A54C1D4B5@exhsto1.se.dataphone.com> <43C7A18D.8060904@centtech.com> In-Reply-To: <43C7A18D.8060904@centtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at diewebmaster.at Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, Alexander Subject: Re: FreeBSD as Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:04:54 -0000 hi all! Eric Anderson schrieb: > Patrik Forsberg wrote: >>> I am ISP admin. All my server work under Linux, but I want to try for >>> this function FreeBSD. Once I used server under FreeBSD 5.3. Now I >>> testing FreeBSD 6.0. >>> I liked functions such as dummy net, simple configuring, etc. But in >>> FreeBSD I don't have alternative FileSystems exclude UFS and UFS2. On >>> high-loaded FileServer is good idea to use XFS or ReiserFS, but this >>> FS don't supported as well as in Linux. How I can to solve this problem? >>> >> >> UFS2 scales very well on a havy loaded server so I see no reason to use >> RaiserFS or any other FS in FreeBSD ? >> > > One good reason, would be journaling, but that isn't necessarily > compelling. > >> I've ran, and is about to do so, a major newfeed machine, which use alot >> of disk i/o, on UFS2 without any trouble. >> With softupdate in UFS2 the fsck in case of a crash is very time >> limited. >> > > I don't believe softupdates changes the recovery time any significant > amount, but it does ensure meta-data consistency. With background fsck, > your startup time can be reduced, which is very nice. > >> As for XFS and ReiserFS support you do have the support in ports: >> >> Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/progsreiserfs >> Info: Utilities and library to manipulate ReiserFS partitions >> >> Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/xfsprogs >> Info: A set of utilities and library to manipulate an xfs filesystem > > Note that those are read-only support. > > I have many FreeBSD servers here, that are *VERY HEAVILY* used, and the > entire company depends on them. I have 100's of GB's to tens of TB's > hosted on FreeBSD servers, and I'm very happy to say it performs > incredibly well, and is very stable. Both 5.4(STABLE) and 6-STABLE are > very solid for serving. > > One thing to be warned about - the larger the single filesystem, the > more memory you will need for fsck's. Actually, it's more dependant on > number of files, but the relationship is there. Full 2Tb filesystems > (for me) require about 2.5GB of memory available for fsck use, YMMV. i too have some machines with large file systems (around 2TB (some of them "only" have 512mb ram)) an never had any memory related fsck issues in years now...just curious, but what could (should?) happen without enough memory available during fsck?! slower fsck? > > Eric > > > > -- mfg. christian damm technische leitung phone: dw 42 email: christian.damm@diewebmaster.at icq at work: 124464652 die webmaster - flötzerweg 156 - 4030 linz - austria phone: +43-732-381242, fax: +43-732-381242-22, isdn (leonardo): +43-732-381242-33 homepage: www.diewebmaster.at, public email: office@diewebmaster.at