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Date:      Sun, 16 Aug 2015 21:54:36 +0800
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>
To:        James Lott <james@lottspot.com>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Ethernet tunneling options under FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <55D0961C.7090107@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <3236701.dypBHjs8Lg@arch_project>
References:  <55CD1CE6.2010502@lottspot.com> <55CE0659.6050206@freebsd.org> <3236701.dypBHjs8Lg@arch_project>

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On 8/15/15 10:40 AM, James Lott wrote:
>> you haven't really described the network well enough..
>> try an ascii-art diagram (don't forget to set fixed width font :-)
>> a VPN required two ends.. one is FreeBSD... what's the other?
> The thing is, the "other" could be any number of operating systems. I'm
> looking for a tunneling protocol with good cross-platform representation, but
> the higher priority it enduring it tunnels ethernet frames.
>
> For the sake of example we can say the other end is a FreeBSD host, since
> FreeBSD is looking like the "lowest common denominator" on this topic.
>
>> if both ends are FreeBSD there are dozens of possibilities..
>> for example:
>> ng_eif->netgraph->ppp->ipsec->ppp->netgraph->ng_eif
>>
>> ng_eif->ng_ksock(udp)->IPsec->ng_ksock->ng_eif
>>
> I'm not overly concerned with the host side interfaces. What I'm really
> concerned with is the tunneling protocol since that's what will need support
> on all of my platforms. Thus, a solution requiring netgraph on both ends is
> not an option in my case.
>
>> tap->ppp->ppp->tap
> I have not found any ppp implementations under FreeBSD which support BCP.
> To my understanding, that's the only method by which ethernet frames can be
> tunneled over ppp... if I'm wrong, please do correct me! I would love nothing
> more than to be wrong about that :)

I have, in the past used UDP packets to encapsulate ethernet frames, 
and tunnelled them over a PPP link using mpd.
I don't have specifics any more. I think there may be support in 
Openvpn for what you want but I've never tried it.
>
> On Friday, August 14, 2015 23:16:41 Julian Elischer wrote:
>> On 8/14/15 6:40 AM, James Lott wrote:
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> I am in the process of planning a build out of a L2 VPN, in which
>>> I'd like to have my primary "switch" and DHCP server be a FreeBSD
>>> system. I would like to join each new host to the VPN by
>>> establishing an IP tunnel with the primary "switch" which transports
>>> ethernet frames over the tunnel.
>> you haven't really described the network well enough..
>> try an ascii-art diagram (don't forget to set fixed width font :-)
>> a VPN required two ends.. one is FreeBSD... what's the other?
>>
>>> So far, the only protocol I have found supported by FreeBSD which
>>> seems capable of this is EtherIP. As far as I can tell, it doesn't
>>> look like there is any support for L2TPv3, and none of the PPP
>>> implementations available appear to support BCP.
>>>
>>> I'm not completely opposed to using EtherIP, but if there is
>>> something more modern which will meet my needs, I would probably try
>>> that first. So my question becomes:
>>>
>>> * Does anyone know of a method supported under FreeBSD (other than
>>> EtherIP) for tunneling ethernet over IP that they may be able to
>>> suggest I check out?
>> if both ends are FreeBSD there are dozens of possibilities..
>> for example:
>> ng_eif->netgraph->ppp->ipsec->ppp->netgraph->ng_eif
>>
>> ng_eif->ng_ksock(udp)->IPsec->ng_ksock->ng_eif
>>
>> tap->ppp->ppp->tap
>>
>>> Thanks for any suggestions!
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