From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 20:55:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29261106566B for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:55:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from earonesty@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F478FC08 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwr19 with SMTP id 19so1656808iwr.13 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:55:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vcVx+fgLfJtQqoGvYqujGTSemxLig4vtPmtC1dmXgA0=; b=D+uuwTnUDVqOYiE9tzrMprrmFGaPCxdN/rwhJ8UPjm4WmBS3al8uNUo6dVI2c1QHYT kHYNpYX1V2XUsDtZjObgkEsUHOXCnTAud2qCmgy61rMP8U/012m3YlxaUriWLs9Eub1D KNn5bwAO1OVAZT4xzlDBjU/VHpL0zcrzTsey4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.91.16 with SMTP id k16mr559668ibm.124.1311279987420; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Sender: earonesty@gmail.com Received: by 10.42.239.194 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:26:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E286D7D.7020706@gmail.com> References: <24466_1311199850_4E27526A_24466_7987_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521866E@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <4e28160e.bVryeJCK1esNt615%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20110721141534.GC59455@guilt.hydra> <20110721170233.GE69370@guilt.hydra> <4E286D7D.7020706@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:26:27 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xmsc1f2jifi5-PF0QGuuTjbLnI8 Message-ID: From: Erik Aronesty To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:55:31 -0000 I work at a biotech lab. All our compute nodes/grid engines run ubuntu. If you count the computers at our office, there are 50 windows desktops, 4 windows servers and 40 linux servers. The windows desktops are basically only for web browsing... the backend web servers and compute nodes are all linux, with 1 big postgres db on a 16-processor freebsd box that we're not going to change...hopefully ever, since it's been reliably running with no performance issues for years. Anything that has to be reliable, we stick on freeBSD or linux. We use AD to manage our desktops, but really, the custom cloud and data-base driven apps are pushing out the Windows/AD "it department managed" apps. Lightweight clients still aren't an option because people do pretty complex work locally (excel/powerpoint, etc.), and switching to Open Office might never be an easy sell around here. Mac's do work (BSD), and people use them as clients instead of windows pretty freely... they integrate well enough with AD. Managing a workplace without Windows desktops and Active Directory still isn't realistic... think a $45K/year junior IT guy at a small business... he should be able to do everything. Windows/Mac have the advantage of being able to force their model on all users, and therefore make it simple. When it comes to managing users & permissions, email, file serving, etc and basic office stuff ... you need top town authority... even with its limitations. The difficults of a unified "copy paste" protocol comes to mind. Probably there should be the POSIX for Directory & Office Required UniX Standards DORXS! - Erik