From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 14:32:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC0081CB; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.server1.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [82.193.243.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF4B366; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AprilRyan.norad (iz-aix-213a.HS-Karlsruhe.DE [193.196.64.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.server1.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8768F8618E; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:32:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <544FA907.4070003@bsdforen.de> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:32:39 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith Subject: Re: File system issues References: <544BC863.2040607@bsdforen.de> <20141025183600.GG66862@home.opsec.eu> <50056B15-83F4-4524-995E-6486959C027C@orthanc.ca> <20141026170011.M74058@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <544CB063.3020002@bsdforen.de> <20141027042350.M74058@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <544D6628.60904@bsdforen.de> <20141027214537.X74058@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20141027214537.X74058@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Adrian Chadd , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:33:00 -0000 Hello, On 27/10/2014 15:07, Ian Smith wrote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:22:48 +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > > On 26/10/2014 18:37, Ian Smith wrote: > > > On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 09:27:15 +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > > > > On 26/10/2014 07:36, Ian Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > But then, the general expectation that new users will want a linux-style > > > > > single / directory - sure, fine for VM use - cruels the potential to use > > > > > dump and restore anyway. It's a bit sad that this is still outstanding. > > > > > > > > You can use dump from anywhere in the file system by way of nullfs > > > > mounts. > > > > > > Thanks Dominic, I wasn't aware of that. Not that it makes up for not > > > being able to not newfs filesystems you want to keep, and in fstab, but > > > it's definitely worth exploring as a workaround. > > > > I have to withdraw my statement. I thought I had done it before, but I > > cannot get it to work. I suppose that leaves us with tar. > > I spent some time exploring trying to dump a nullfs-mounted (copy of) > /etc last night, to no avail. I finally managed to make a snapshot of > that with mksnap_ffs, mounted it as an md, but it turned out to be just > a snapshot of / and not dumpable anyway. I'm sorry for the false hope. :( -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?