Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:29:40 +0800 From: "jan gestre" <freebsd.ph@gmail.com> To: "Giorgos Keramidas" <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Message-ID: <a25afc300607270829n6575615cu8c2e63e8803c4f99@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20060726231555.GB19000@gothmog.pc> References: <20060726164622.Q17979@ganymede.hub.org> <20060726201933.GH5284@jeeves.stilyagin.local> <20060726185018.BB70.GERARD@seibercom.net> <20060726231555.GB19000@gothmog.pc>
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On 7/27/06, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote: > > On 2006-07-26 18:59, Gerard Seibert <gerard@seibercom.net> wrote: > >Darrin Chandler wrote: > >> Do you see that if support in 4.x had been based on open specs from > >> Adaptec that this issue would not exist? Adaptec is controlling your > >> ability to use their product, and that's the real problem. It's > >> consumer-hostile, unless you fit their perfect picture of > >> "consumer." You don't, so you're left in the cold. > > > > I think you are missing the point here. It is 'THEIR PRODUCT'. They > > can do with it as they wish. If you are unhappy with their product, > > then don't use it. > > Darrin is not missing the point. He is just making a different point, > which is (for many people, including me) quite valid. > > > Most corporation are primarily interested in profits. Nothing wrong > > with that. I like making money, as I assume you do. Obviously they > > have weight the cost of producing FSBD compatible products and > > concluded that it would not be profitable to do so. Unless you could > > produce enough evidence to show them otherwise, I fear that you are > > simply beating a dead horse here. > > If the technical specifications are open, there is *zero* support cost > for the hardware vendor. They don't even _have_ to make a driver for > their hardware. What they *can* do though is reply to requests for an > open source driver with: ``Piss off! We have you the technical specs, > so you can write your own. Our development and support costs would not > be justified, but here's the spec... give it your best shot.'' > > *This* is the point Darrin is trying to make :) > > and if i may add, if they don't provide FreeBSD drivers for their > products, its their loss, they won't earn anything from FreeBSD users coz we > won't buy or stay away from their products. and i also think the reason they > are discontinuing support for FreeBSD 6 onwards coz they feel we are just > few and won't make a significant increase in their profit driven company, > one way of making us heard is by letting them know how many we are, why not > bombard them with request for support, IMO once they notice how many we are, > i'm pretty sure they'll give in. just my 2 cents worth.
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