From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 03:02:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBF116A41A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [202.89.146.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E302A13C457 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:02:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C885328438; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:02:41 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:02:41 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20080217030241.GA34692@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <200802161142.53044.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <20080216215521.GB12555@osiris.chen.org.nz> <18359.26373.750798.755610@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18359.26373.750798.755610@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Steven Friedrich Subject: Re: Shutdown anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:02:43 -0000 On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 05:43:17PM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > Jonathan Chen writes: > > > > I am seeing the following messages, which appear to indicate a memory > > > overwrite: > > > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'vnlru' to stop...done > > > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'bufdaemon' to stop...done > > > a > > > iStyinncgi n(gm adxi s6k0s ,s evcnoonddess) rfeomra isnyisntge.m. .pr0o > > > cess 'syncer' to stop...0 0 done > > > All buffers synced. > > > Uptime: 8m9s > > > > It's an interleaved buffer messages on SMP systems. The problem is > > known, but I haven't heard of a proposed solution yet. > > There is no fix. > The workaround is to increase the size of the kernel printf() > buffer. I don't remember how you do that ... but this is not a new > issue - chech the archives for details. The PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128 workaround doesn't work on the few systems I've seen the issue on; but if you're interested, one way to do it is: include GENERIC ident GENERIC-1 options PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128 Cheers -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything's under control, you're going too slow" - Mario Andretti From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 03:48:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B654E16A41B for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfalang@twcny.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-05.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-05.nyroc.rr.com [24.24.2.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6EC13C469 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfalang@twcny.rr.com) Received: from bobscomputer (cpe-74-71-175-136.twcny.res.rr.com [74.71.175.136]) by ms-smtp-05.nyroc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1H3GTVF012937 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:16:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:17:49 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Robert Falanga" Organization: Association of Baptist for World Evangelism Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.25 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: question about xwindows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:48:43 -0000 First let me say that I am quite new at freebsd or any other unix type system. My son helped me set up the xwindows (KDE) on this system. It has worked OK for quite a while and then yesterday I was trying to install a printer. Evidently I messed something up and now I get the following: hostname: not found dd: not found Couldn't create cookie I haven't a clue as to what is wrong, would someone help PLEASE? Thank you, Bob -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 04:00:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C812D16A468 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1FFC13C455 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 12184 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2008 04:00:10 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 17 Feb 2008 04:00:10 -0000 Message-ID: <47B7B142.2030202@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:00:02 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Falanga References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about xwindows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:00:14 -0000 Hi, first of all, you used that bad letter. Just call it X. Never add an s at the end of the other word. Some people are real allergic to this. Robert Falanga wrote: > First let me say that I am quite new at freebsd or any other unix type > system. > My son helped me set up the xwindows (KDE) on this system. It has worked > OK for quite a while and then yesterday I was trying to install a > printer. Evidently I messed something up and now I get the following: You must have some printing system installed on the machine. I would recommend CUPS for this purpose. Go to a console and enter this: pkg_info | grep cups You should get then some output like this: cups-base-1.3.3 Common UNIX Printing System libgnomecups-0.2.2_4,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration This error messages are too general for me. > hostname: not found > dd: not found > Couldn't create cookie > > I haven't a clue as to what is wrong, would someone help PLEASE? If you have CUPS, you can use a web browser to administer the printer. What kind of rpinter do you have installed? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 05:10:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46B716A417 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:10:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02B913C459 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:10:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6F050985 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:10:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R1vhsQBqOZs0 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:10:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AAE5750902; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:10:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080217051001.AAE5750902@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-01-27 - 2008-02-16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:10:08 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 08:16:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208D616A417 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0550D13C43E for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:16:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1H8FakR001626; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:15:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1H8FQ38001623; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:15:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:15:26 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Robert Falanga In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080217091511.T1622@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about xwindows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:16:23 -0000 > system. > My son helped me set up the xwindows (KDE) on this system. It has worked OK what is xwindows? > for quite a while and then yesterday I was trying to install a printer. > Evidently I messed something up and now I get the following: > hostname: not found > dd: not found deleted too much? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 08:17:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E638016A421 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AC013C461 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1H8Gtej001654; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:16:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1H8GqsA001651; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:16:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:16:52 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Erich Dollansky In-Reply-To: <47B7B142.2030202@pacific.net.sg> Message-ID: <20080217091554.K1622@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47B7B142.2030202@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Falanga Subject: Re: question about xwindows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:17:38 -0000 > first of all, you used that bad letter. Just call it X. Never add an s at the > end of the other word. Some people are real allergic to this. no allergic, just matter of proper naming. X Window System is not a kind of windows. KDE is not a kind of X Window System too.. > > Robert Falanga wrote: >> First let me say that I am quite new at freebsd or any other unix type >> system. >> My son helped me set up the xwindows (KDE) on this system. It has worked OK >> for quite a while and then yesterday I was trying to install a printer. >> Evidently I messed something up and now I get the following: > > You must have some printing system installed on the machine. > > I would recommend CUPS for this purpose. > > Go to a console and enter this: > > pkg_info | grep cups > > You should get then some output like this: > > cups-base-1.3.3 Common UNIX Printing System > libgnomecups-0.2.2_4,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration > > This error messages are too general for me. > >> hostname: not found >> dd: not found >> Couldn't create cookie >> >> I haven't a clue as to what is wrong, would someone help PLEASE? > > If you have CUPS, you can use a web browser to administer the printer. > > What kind of rpinter do you have installed? > > Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 10:31:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEB116A417 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pluijzer@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E02F13C4CE for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pluijzer@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so2183758waf.3 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:31:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=fyXrAUJyq7UW0Hdtt+tSxu5F59WWVfYNtezO9kV6zI0=; b=GoVd5uxLqLH7RjuVsXBdvJa9ywUEG7I4D8Z0nYmwerakuex4g0totSd/zCIwoIW9uiKfO/ZrTPCMWOnNpJXMDa9MYdPRuNVsHruvOstaOrgmae1svg208beNQ/3F5g6x1HJ1yMM61kglnVuETEWw8RfUxJiVDUtSNZkkacFtmvg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=sQ4e0zditc3sQIkDmLRLb3fR+A61FJmrQQhlY105Ef/v1K8XALii86+q5XjEcGal37X7T8iLYqD6FSPPSqJ/UjLss6DvuoVa6MK1Be41vfLzE2XsVitdptg+E42lLm/fzqTqoHH8dJwSVomIVlXAgnMwG/3VmoTSrCOlQ9vyzok= Received: by 10.114.190.6 with SMTP id n6mr44457waf.51.1203242556938; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:02:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.107.15 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:02:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3a90ad3e0802170202w342ac214o7734e4aebad59eee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:02:36 +0200 From: "Righard van Roy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FTP installation problem. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:31:15 -0000 Hello, I was planning stepping over from Linux to BSD. I trying to install FreeBSD using the minimal boot cd over FTP. In the installation menu I select that I do not wish to use IPv6, and that I do wish to use DHCP. I sure I have selected the correct Network card. Although after this my DHCP settings have bin found correctly the installation program reports me that it cannot resolve the name of the server (I ve tried more than one) I did not find anything special on the second console nor scrolling up with scroll lock. My internet connection is working. Does anybody have a solution to my problem? Thank you, Righard P.S. is there a way to go to a console during installation to tweak some settings like I used doing in Archlinux? Maybe then I can get the connection working by hand. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 10:46:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896C416A41A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB9713C46B for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:46:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1HAjuST013244; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:45:57 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m1HAjuST013244 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47B81064.4060606@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:45:56 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Righard van Roy References: <3a90ad3e0802170202w342ac214o7734e4aebad59eee@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a90ad3e0802170202w342ac214o7734e4aebad59eee@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:45:57 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5845/Sun Feb 17 05:22:12 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP installation problem. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:46:02 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Righard van Roy wrote: > Hello, > > I was planning stepping over from Linux to BSD. I trying to install FreeBSD > using the minimal boot cd over FTP. In the installation menu I select that I > do not wish to use IPv6, and that I do wish to use DHCP. I sure I have > selected the correct Network card. Although after this my DHCP settings have > bin found correctly the installation program reports me that it cannot > resolve the name of the server (I ve tried more than one) > > I did not find anything special on the second console nor scrolling up with > scroll lock. My internet connection is working. > > Does anybody have a solution to my problem? Sounds like your DHCP server is not telling you the IP numbers of some usable DNS servers. Alternatively, you can just tell the installer not to use DHCP and fill in the IP, netmask, gateway, hostname and DNS server manually in the network settings screen. > P.S. is there a way to go to a console during installation to tweak some > settings like I used doing in Archlinux? Maybe then I can get the connection > working by hand. Sure. Alt+F4 will take you to the 'emergency holographic shell' where you should[*] be able to edit the /etc/resolv.conf file used during installation. However, be aware that editing that file won't automatically affect the /etc/resolv.conf you get once everything is installed -- in fact, if you're using DHCP, that file will be overwritten at each reboot. Cheers, Matthew [*] Possibly with some difficulty, as you'll be in a memory file system with very limited contents. - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHuBBk8Mjk52CukIwRCPo5AJ9f6qHi6DCS4oRI/+/aq6rLe6DacwCeLLWl 9+rmas/3swWmRBZVsW4Hzvg= =VBJC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 11:20:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9303A16A418 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s3.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s3.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E2F13C43E for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:20:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY143-W34 ([65.55.154.69]) by bay0-omc1-s3.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:17:46 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.172.126.254] From: Da Rock To: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:17:46 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3a90ad3e0802170202w342ac214o7734e4aebad59eee@mail.gmail.com> References: <3a90ad3e0802170202w342ac214o7734e4aebad59eee@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Feb 2008 11:17:46.0775 (UTC) FILETIME=[B92A6A70:01C87156] Subject: RE: FTP installation problem. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:20:27 -0000 ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:02:36 +0200 > From: pluijzer@gmail.com > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: FTP installation problem. >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I was planning stepping over from Linux to BSD. I trying to install FreeB= SD > using the minimal boot cd over FTP. In the installation menu I select tha= t I > do not wish to use IPv6, and that I do wish to use DHCP. I sure I have > selected the correct Network card. Although after this my DHCP settings h= ave > bin found correctly the installation program reports me that it cannot > resolve the name of the server (I ve tried more than one) >=20 > I did not find anything special on the second console nor scrolling up wi= th > scroll lock. My internet connection is working. >=20 > Does anybody have a solution to my problem? >=20 > Thank you, > Righard >=20 > P.S. is there a way to go to a console during installation to tweak some > settings like I used doing in Archlinux? Maybe then I can get the connect= ion > working by hand. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" I have had a similar problem. I believe it depends on the release you are i= nstalling- some newer ones aren't supported on older EOL mirrors I think. W= hat release are you trying? _________________________________________________________________ New music from the Rogue Traders - listen now! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=3Dclick&clientID=3D832&r= eferral=3DhotmailtaglineOct07&URL=3Dhttp://music.ninemsn.com.au/roguetrader= s= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 11:39:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F06616A418; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [217.20.163.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4701C13C448; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035A743E0A7; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:39:55 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at falcon.cybervisiontech.com Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id 8kNWJUcDSl5H; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:39:54 +0200 (EET) Received: from [10.74.70.239] (unknown [193.138.145.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6393443E068; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:39:54 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47B81D07.7090208@icyb.net.ua> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:39:51 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071208) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: newfs_msdos and dvd-ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:39:56 -0000 Should newfs_msdos be able to work on "whole" cdX/acdX device ? [ufs/ffs] newfs can do it. But with newfs_msdos I had to run disklabel first and then I could create a filesystem on cdXa, but I couldn't do it on the whole disk. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 13:38:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026E416A419; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A018B13C465; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20080217132318.QQDR27223.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@corinth.polands.org>; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:23:18 +0000 Received: from ammon.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1HDNHec075150; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:23:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from ammon.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ammon.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1HDNHhN072533; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:23:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@ammon.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by ammon.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m1HDNHbi072532; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:23:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:23:17 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080217132317.GC72400@polands.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/5840/Sat Feb 16 17:35:57 2008 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: apache 2.2.8 authdbm woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:38:24 -0000 Hello, For the past few days, I've been migrating a bunch of apache-1.3.41 vhosts to apache-2.2.8 (on the same machine, 6.3-RELEASE i386). Many of directories are protected with AuthType directives and I want to reuse the existing .dat files. After working successfully for more than a day with the original .dat files, apache-2.2.8 suddenly decides that format is not supported. Here's what the error log says: This function has not been implemented on this platform: could not open dbm (type DB) auth file: /usr/local/etc/apache22/auth/admin-passwords.dat I'm fairly certain that the beginning of the error messages coincided with the first modifications I made to the .dat files after copying them from /usr/local/etc/apache to /usr/local/etc/apache22. The syntax I used to modify the files were: dbmmanage admin-groups.dat add newAdminUser newAdminGroup dbmmanage admin-passwords.dat adduser newAdminUser I compiled apache-2.2.8 with the following options: make -DWITH_BDB -DWITH_BDB_BASE And have the following directives in the conf file: AuthType Basic AuthName "Authorized Users" AuthBasicProvider dbm AuthDBMType DB AuthDBMUserFile etc/apache22/auth/admin-passwords.dat AuthDBMGroupFile etc/apache22/auth/admin-groups.dat require group newAdminGroup In the apache-1.3.41 httpd.conf file, I used: AuthName "Authorized Users" AuthType Basic AuthDBUserFile /usr/local/etc/apache/admin-passwords.dat AuthDBGroupFile /usr/local/etc/apache/admin-groups.dat require group newAdminGroup This change in apache's behavior is very strange indeed. I tried copying the original .dat files and restarting apache, but to no avail. I also must admit that I'm a little confused between AuthDBM/AuthDB and and all the DBM/BDB options in FreeBSD's Make infrastructure Many thanks for your consideration and assistance. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 13:40:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894CA16A419 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb7:ef56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0743813C448 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (vpn180155.student.utwente.nl [130.89.180.155]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1HDebnt024153; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:40:40 +0100 Message-ID: <47B83959.4040300@student.utwente.nl> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:40:41 +0000 From: "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <47B7B142.2030202@pacific.net.sg> <20080217091554.K1622@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080217091554.K1622@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Robert Falanga , Erich Dollansky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about xwindows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:40:53 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> first of all, you used that bad letter. Just call it X. Never add an s >> at the end of the other word. Some people are real allergic to this. > no allergic, just matter of proper naming. X Window System is not a kind > of windows. > > KDE is not a kind of X Window System too.. Oh come on people... Someone new to UNIX asks about adding a printer and in response we start bickering about the above? What kind of arrogant, know-it-all pedants must the OP think we are? Alphons -- All right, that does it Bill [Donahue]. I'm pretty sure that killing Jesus is not very Christian. -- pope Benedict XVI, South Park episode #158 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 13:41:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B5416A41A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from blacksidemoon@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA5A13C465 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from blacksidemoon@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so422324uge.37 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:41:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8KmLgEmJOAf0n/nKPzPJKvVvC242CRmNJv33xxA9ZA4=; b=Hz9ej7eSqC5IfNGxOmnwKoXEFUEG6JbyS2/fyPCbkokvbhRYaJn0mSPaGsEKTGx8wTdzoUx5daugu3ZMSxDgUVm6rWDWT79oc4ABzZvhOPhus3HBklBbtpTzFlsesOZVn8x8PPcccaQlS+LJEy8qvUWYZ6vcKgcCeUU6jJNMyTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RfIz9yG3dnnDT8h/tZXnSO/v1v8Wf/pdH+JGUMV5kAI//3uxS24BzVFksxpEhh+nEfNL5nTESkkPdhy4E+bS7wTJTMYYTpnjXXdlCgwQ8f+ldJaXMDFchGXM61Ml3LZ8Ovv345ijrwwsIed0VqhmHvtP6ppPlFDTg9K/fwkR3TA= Received: by 10.67.116.11 with SMTP id t11mr1880990ugm.61.1203253937883; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.11? ( [83.26.252.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o24sm2807121ugd.41.2008.02.17.05.12.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:12:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47B8330F.1010409@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:13:51 +0100 From: BlackSideMoon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: "Unkown username haldaemon in message bus configuration file" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:41:25 -0000 Hi when i add into /etc/rc.conf line gdm_enable="YES" (freebsd6.3) and my system start I see line "Unkown username haldaemon in message bus configuration file". I think that's little problem (for newbies big problem) because I have to myself add haldaemon user (I did it accidentally and it's now probably ok) Can you fix this problem in next relases? Sorry. 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( [68.35.151.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm13622121wff.7.2008.02.17.06.11.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:11:28 -0800 (PST) From: James To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <20080216120406.f4f80c07.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <000a01c87073$9da5fc30$d8f1f490$@net> <1203178935.6099.1.camel@pclmills> <20080216120406.f4f80c07.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:11:29 -0700 Message-Id: <1203257489.5760.3.camel@pclmills> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lubomir Matousek , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) rmuser error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: oscartheduck@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:11:30 -0000 On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 12:04 -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > James wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 09:11 +0100, Lubomir Matousek wrote: > > > Dear list, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the following problem when using rmuser (freebsd 6.2) > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > rmuser -v hana ^^^^ says hana > > > > > > Matching password entry: > > > > > > > > > > > > hana:*:1091:1092::0:0:/usr/home/hana:/usr/sbin/nologin ^^^^ says hana ^^^^^ says /usr/home/hana > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this the entry you wish to remove? yes Remove user's home directory > > > (/usr/home/hanka)? yes Removing crontab for (hana):. ^^^^^ Notice that the username has been changed -- there's a k inserted. The kernel error is "no such file or directory", which makes sense, as we have seen no references thus far to a directory named hanka. > > > > > > Removing at(1) jobs owned by (hana): 0 removed. > > > > > > Removing IPC mechanismsipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or > > > directory > > > > > > ipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory > > > > > > ipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory . > > > > > > Terminating all processes owned by (hana): -KILL signal sent to 0 processes. > > > > > > Removing files owned by (hana) in /tmp: 0 removed. > > > > > > Removing files owned by (hana) in /var/tmp: 0 removed. > > > > > > Removing mail spool(s) for (hana): /var/mail/hana. > > > > > > Removing user (hana) (including home directory) from the system: Done. > > > > > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem started, when I accidentaly deleted /usr/home directory and I > > > had to create a new one. I checked /etc/password file and the direcory > > > existed before using rmuser. Can anybody help please? As I said, /etc/passwd is generated from /etc/master.passwd. So make sure there's no extra k in there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lubos > > > > > > Looks like the problem is that somewhere within there it's expected that > > the home directory isn't /usr/home/hana, it's /usr/home/hanka > > > > Have you checked /etc/master.passwd to make sure that there's no > > mis-entry in there? Or just try creating /usr/home/hanka and see if it > > works itself out. > > Personally, I'm unsure where the "problem" is. The only suspicious thing > I see is the inability to remove shared memory segments, which is a bit > strange but not wholly unexpected. Did you build a kernel without shared > memory? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 14:13:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C63516A418 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:13:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7505413C459 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:13:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 24679 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2008 14:13:09 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 17 Feb 2008 14:13:09 -0000 Message-ID: <47B840EE.4040708@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:13:02 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" References: <47B7B142.2030202@pacific.net.sg> <20080217091554.K1622@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47B83959.4040300@student.utwente.nl> In-Reply-To: <47B83959.4040300@student.utwente.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Falanga Subject: Re: question about xwindows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:13:13 -0000 Hi, Alphons "Fonz" van Werven wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>> first of all, you used that bad letter. Just call it X. Never add an >>> s at the end of the other word. Some people are real allergic to this. > >> no allergic, just matter of proper naming. X Window System is not a >> kind of windows. >> >> KDE is not a kind of X Window System too.. > > Oh come on people... > > Someone new to UNIX asks about adding a printer and in response we start > bickering about the above? What kind of arrogant, know-it-all pedants must > the OP think we are? > he will then be well prepared. Joke aside, there was some help at the end of the original posting. His question was just a bit to unspecific for me to be able to understand his real problem. It seems that his son installed him FreeBSD plus KDE without a printer or he installed a printer and did tell the father how to use it. Just check his original post, you might can help him. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 14:14:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BBB16A41B for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscartheduck@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9BB13C4DB for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscartheduck@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 25so296913wfa.7 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:14:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1yZfOoUB5RqHo8i6AD0t4llUyl2CQERA/+tpt0s97m0=; b=qAYMO5PDjqcnX83RYivIh0MBiijElgQBAOqC36GW59bPFlckx5KYOIQEsM0lWDzJa6PY9lXKAcityD4KVWMePAoxkK/k4U0rJswQNeZkQbtqy3Dgz7fv972aWwSRp1SWgQRD4BXvL4Fu/z5wgCRkudlI9BSITs1ZxwoFEZYjr/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=dda4qkKajjUdkR3jVspicC6pI2Vq6LsgAB/uA4Cf5yzn4/Z9KrVU/Q2Lu8b4WzCdLnkkuLijFrkWZKImKwFS7yHeIYoA9GmuPt90Wptm9bixJZxvKeEjH+HMYLqJETF8nwccSuFdJK6LCsoMaX4aIIJpODzRfVzm0wEHPldsh6s= Received: by 10.143.157.10 with SMTP id j10mr3560278wfo.229.1203257643433; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.104? ( [68.35.151.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm14943326wff.11.2008.02.17.06.14.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:14:02 -0800 (PST) From: James To: Andrew Falanga In-Reply-To: <200802161041.08346.af300wsm@gmail.com> References: <200802161041.08346.af300wsm@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:14:04 -0700 Message-Id: <1203257644.5760.7.camel@pclmills> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IPv4 loopback address is missing, why? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: oscartheduck@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:14:04 -0000 On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 10:41 -0700, Andrew Falanga wrote: > HI, > > On my father's computer there isn't an IPv4 loopback address being assigned to > the lo0 interface. What would cause this? I've looked at his configs and > they're the same as on my system (obviously something is different, but I > don't know what). I see in his /etc/defaults/rc.conf the "ifconfig_lo0" line > is *NOT* commented out or otherwise altered and his file looks the same as > mine (at least on this point, I haven't contrasted the two entirely). > > So, why would his system not be configuring an IPv4 loopback address? After > bootup, I can add the address manually using ifconfig. > > Andy I don't know, but the first place I'd look is /etc/hosts and make sure it's configured correctly there. It's also configured in /etc/network.subr Did you do a make buildworld recently and not complete it entirely? James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 14:22:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB7B16A419 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA11B13C465 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1HEIEIw023084; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:18:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1HEIELm023083; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:18:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:18:14 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Robert Falanga Message-ID: <20080217141814.GA23040@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about xwindow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:22:11 -0000 On Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 10:17:49PM -0500, Robert Falanga wrote: > First let me say that I am quite new at freebsd or any other unix type > system. > My son helped me set up the xwindows (KDE) on this system. It has worked > OK for quite a while and then yesterday I was trying to install a printer. > Evidently I messed something up and now I get the following: > hostname: not found > dd: not found > Couldn't create cookie Hmmm. Sounds like something in a path or a link somewhere got hosed. That is the only reason dd could not be found. Try checking your path and also running some other basic commands such as ls and pwd and cd. To check your path, just type path by itself as a command. Then post what it says. This is just a start at poking around to see what is happening. I could be way off here. I don't use KDE (though I have with no trouble). My printer setup is basic and just uses a simple /etc/printcap -- none of the cups setup or other stuff that seems to confound people. Of course, I print to a network attached printer that handles postscript so I don't have to do much. ////jerry > > I haven't a clue as to what is wrong, would someone help PLEASE? > > Thank you, > Bob > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 14:38:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FBC16A417 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386A913C448 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 062E11CC038; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:19:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:19:25 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Doug Poland Message-ID: <20080217141925.GA51665@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <20080217132317.GC72400@polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080217132317.GC72400@polands.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache 2.2.8 authdbm woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:38:37 -0000 On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 07:23:17AM -0600, Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, You're likely suffering from this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=119711 There were some recent changes to www/apache22 which specifically addressed the above: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/www/apache22/Makefile -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 15:03:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C3916A41A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lauasanf@wilderness.homeip.net) Received: from mtai04.charter.net (mtai04.charter.net [216.33.127.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D88613C458 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lauasanf@wilderness.homeip.net) Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mtai04.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20080217150257.SRUW10302.mtai04.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net> for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:57 -0500 Received: from angel.cotharyus.net ([71.87.188.55]) by aarprv06.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080217150257.JRXB14098.aarprv06.charter.net@angel.cotharyus.net> for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:02:57 -0500 Message-ID: <47B84CA0.2010509@wilderness.homeip.net> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:02:56 -0600 From: Drew Sanford User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chzlrs: 0 Cc: Subject: PHP cli segfaults X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:03:08 -0000 Command line programs for php seem to segfault on a 7.0RC1 box (yes, I know, I should update to RC2) - for example: root@colossus(~/bin)$ php -v PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 9 2008 13:03:20) Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) php -v Any pointers? Just update and see if that fixes it? Thanks in advance. uname output: FreeBSD colossus.cotharyus.net 7.0-RC1 FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 #0: Sat Feb 9 11:43:37 CST 2008 root@colossus.cotharyus.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 #0: Sat Feb 9 11:43:37 CST 2008 root@colossus.cotharyus.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (2010.32-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x20fb1 Stepping = 1 Features=0x178bfbff Features2=0x1 AMD Features=0xe2500800 AMD Features2=0x3 Cores per package: 2 real memory = 2147418112 (2047 MB) avail memory = 2091855872 (1994 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Feb 9 2008 11:43:18) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 7fef0000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 powernow0: on cpu0 device_attach: powernow0 attach returned 6 cpu1: on acpi0 powernow1: on cpu1 device_attach: powernow1 attach returned 6 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 1.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 1.1 (no driver attached) ohci0: mem 0xdd003000-0xdd003fff irq 21 at device 2.0 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ohci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 10 ports with 10 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfeb00000-0xfeb000ff irq 22 at device 2.1 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb1: EHCI version 1.0 usb1: companion controller, 4 ports each: usb0 usb1: on ehci0 usb1: USB revision 2.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 10 ports with 10 removable, self powered pci0: at device 4.0 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xf000-0xf00f at device 6.0 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: port 0x9f0-0x9f7,0xbf0-0xbf3,0x970-0x977,0xb70-0xb73,0xd400-0xd40f mem 0xdd001000-0xdd001fff irq 21 at device 7.0 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] atapci2: port 0x9e0-0x9e7,0xbe0-0xbe3,0x960-0x967,0xb60-0xb63,0xc000-0xc00f mem 0xdd000000-0xdd000fff irq 22 at device 8.0 on pci0 atapci2: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci2 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: on atapci2 ata5: [ITHREAD] pcib1: at device 9.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib1 dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0xa000-0xa0ff mem 0xdc045000-0xdc0450ff irq 16 at device 6.0 on pci5 miibus0: on dc0 bmtphy0: PHY 1 on miibus0 bmtphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto dc0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:40:93:80 dc0: [ITHREAD] em0: port 0xa400-0xa43f mem 0xdc000000-0xdc01ffff,0xdc020000-0xdc03ffff irq 17 at device 7.0 on pci5 em0: Ethernet address: 00:0e:0c:2f:00:ba em0: [FILTER] fwohci0: mem 0xdc044000-0xdc0447ff,0xdc040000-0xdc043fff irq 16 at device 11.0 on pci5 fwohci0: [FILTER] fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:11:d8:00:00:86:18:47 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 dcons_crom0: on firewire0 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x1368000 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:11:d8:86:18:47 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:11:d8:86:18:47 fwip0: on firewire0 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:11:d8:00:00:86:18:47 @ 0xfffe00000000, S400, maxrec 2048 sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: BUS reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode pcib2: at device 11.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 12.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: at device 13.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib4 pcib5: at device 14.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib5 vgapci0: mem 0xd8000000-0xd8ffffff,0xd0000000-0xd7ffffff,0xd9000000-0xd9ffffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci1 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: [ITHREAD] psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcefff,0xd0000-0xd3fff,0xdb000-0xdc7ff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ppc0: [ITHREAD] sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert enabled,firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging disabled hptrr: no controller detected. ad0: 43979MB at ata0-master UDMA100 ad2: 38166MB at ata1-master UDMA100 acd0: DVDR at ata1-slave UDMA66 ad4: 381554MB at ata2-master SATA300 ad6: 381554MB at ata3-master SATA300 ad8: 76319MB at ata4-master SATA150 ad10: 76319MB at ata5-master SATA150 ar0: 763108MB status: READY ar0: disk0 READY using ad4 at ata2-master ar0: disk1 READY using ad6 at ata3-master ar1: 152638MB status: READY ar1: disk0 READY using ad8 at ata4-master ar1: disk1 READY using ad10 at ata5-master SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 15:37:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E1716A468 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) Received: from smtpout-1.iphouse.net (smtpout-1.iphouse.net [216.250.188.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7DF13C4CC for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) Received: from smtpout-1.iphouse.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outbound-clamsmtpd.iphouse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2614B2AC5D3 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:21:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from ziemel.erje.net (erje.net [80.126.62.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpout-1.iphouse.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2F22AC5C3 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:21:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from ismet.erje.net (ismet.erje.net [IPv6:2001:888:1f33::8e45:5e]) by ziemel.erje.net (PostFix 2.5.0) with ESMTP id 1867ECA0B28 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:20:05 +0100 (CET) Received: (from robert@localhost) by ismet.erje.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m1HFK4mk000821 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:20:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from robert@ml.erje.net) X-Authentication-Warning: ismet.erje.net: robert set sender to robert@ml.erje.net using -f Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:20:04 +0100 From: Robert Joosten To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080217152003.GA708@iphouse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-ziemel.erje.net-MailScanner: Ok, found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: upcoming version 7.0 live disc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:37:06 -0000 Hi list, a friend visited my place yesterday bringing his HP netserver LH3 with him, 3 9GB's scsi discs in it. Dual pentium II 450. 512 RAM. No hardware raid though. Given the fact 7.0 is near including ZFS. Given the fact, as I understand, freebsd can boot of ZFS I wanna make raid1 on/with ZFS. Now my question: does the version 7 livedisc understands ZFS ootb ? So I can create pools etc, format, label, etc etc. All the things that now are possible with UFS2. And even better: is the installer able to deal with ZFS ? I plan to make this box doing sql and it would be great if, in case of disaster, I can perform a bare metal recovery. Any insights are welcome. Cheers, Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 16:01:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EC616A41A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:01:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@adminlife.net) Received: from mx.adminlife.net (mx.adminlife.net [89.149.221.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5081F13C459 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@adminlife.net) Received: from [192.168.0.52] (p5488F7CB.dip.t-dialin.net [84.136.247.203]) by mx.adminlife.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BD3AB19D for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:57:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47B85A51.6020201@adminlife.net> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:01:21 +0100 From: Matthias Kellermann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions List X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=85F1B9F5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig032E0E43FE793CCAAF7078D9" Subject: issues with serial console output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:01:36 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig032E0E43FE793CCAAF7078D9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi list, I'm trying to install a FreeBSD system on a remote server I can only access via a serial console with 57600 baud. There is a Linux rescue system that I use for copying a FreeBSD HDD image via dd to the harddisk. To access the FreeBSD installation via remote serial console I've done the following things: /boot/loader.conf: console=3D"vidconsole,comconsole" boot_multicons=3D"YES" comconsole_speed=3D"57600" /boot.config: -S57600 -Dh /etc/ttys: # only changed the following line ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.57600" vt100 on secure I can see the loader and can choose between the different choices to boot. After choosing the default entry all I get is this: /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=3D0x44a7c data=3D0x24c0+0x1b8c syms=3D[0x4+0x7d50+0x4+0xaae0] lots of lines of question marks I don't get a login prompt nor the kernel messages. The console does not response on my keyboard. Any ideas whats wrong? Matthias --------------enig032E0E43FE793CCAAF7078D9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHuFpUGSi/LIXxufURAs5MAKC6F8SM6yFbLKi1XBean/YjILdqSwCfd0K3 zFXCHDUDu0KMwKi4z4LEizQ= =cP95 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig032E0E43FE793CCAAF7078D9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 16:04:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E8716A475 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E473713C4E3 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:04:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so342687anc.13 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 08:04:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=62oJ7vG1Bd6HqmsdlMeUnIrX56p7WFu5Y+989rV2uF8=; b=pnAJXnRASzn0g+mRp2Jrwf5vfB9ZiOHSKqNd/kaoSQgJ/Tg+oWE8m0Wyib+CJhgTpHd1KT/uw6aWHPWvDGJKT1E9OOh8HUe0l6540b47lDZH8O3+5Kx7gDMB69sjusEwuavfTbHlLmGSa+h/UogeYsAJ3cOKQ0l2ZLlVAJzZ+8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=U6HkhKR78TlIjM1yGd7tfo7Ki5qFF22vTGEMugpTfuCVS7zlsoaLKpS8tZQFmQdqIATb70G9mDKR8HzNHOF5odd/AKQ4yiKa64NaLZYkiXsNA4A2hfmyQ/LdXy8/Ne9vZR4xzjYWb6m5afi2ELNJrXMtqRF4jplL0GTh1iCNcPs= Received: by 10.100.138.4 with SMTP id l4mr8944359and.110.1203262771035; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.229.13 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:39:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:39:30 -0300 From: luizbcampos@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_4749_18915145.1203262771022" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: unable to upgrade to 6.3-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:04:15 -0000 ------=_Part_4749_18915145.1203262771022 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Trying to upgrade my FreeBSD-6.1-R to 6.3-R, I followed the schema of Colin Percival at FreeBSD site. The matter is that when I type "sh freebsd-update.sh -f freebsd-update.conf -r 6.3-RELEASE upgrade", as root I got "freebsd-update.sh: Directory does not exist or it is not writable: /var/db/freebsd-update" My FreeBSD-6.1-R runs some important libraries and just one interface is installed (X window system) I left out Gnome and KDE, i. e, not all the 0S is installed. Would it be necessary to install everything? 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Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Falanga Subject: Re: question about xwindows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:05:05 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Just check his original post, you might can help him. Actually, I've read the post. But just like the person who's trying to help now, I can only guess because I don't use KDE and don't know much about it. I just found it kinda disturbing how some people were being smartasses about the X(-)Window(s) thingy in what I consider the wrong thread for doing so. Alphons -- All right, that does it Bill [Donahue]. I'm pretty sure that killing Jesus is not very Christian. -- pope Benedict XVI, South Park episode #158 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 16:20:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E3A16A418 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F8513C46B for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1HGDnYQ003196; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:13:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1HGD69m003192; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:13:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:13:06 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: luizbcampos@gmail.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080217171257.O3191@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unable to upgrade to 6.3-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:20:50 -0000 On Sun, 17 Feb 2008, luizbcampos@gmail.com wrote: > Trying to upgrade my FreeBSD-6.1-R to 6.3-R, I followed the schema > of Colin Percival at FreeBSD site. The matter is that when I type "sh > freebsd-update.sh -f freebsd-update.conf -r 6.3-RELEASE upgrade", as > root I got "freebsd-update.sh: Directory does not exist or it is not > writable: /var/db/freebsd-update" mkdir /var/db/freebsd-update From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 16:46:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD73116A468 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8407A13C468 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20080217164612.KPXE7178.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@corinth.polands.org>; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:46:12 +0000 Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1HF7hR4075460; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:07:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 172.16.1.8 (proxying for 172.16.1.47) (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:07:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <62450.172.16.1.8.1203260863.squirrel@email.polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20080217141925.GA51665@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <20080217132317.GC72400@polands.org> <20080217141925.GA51665@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:07:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Doug Poland" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/5847/Sun Feb 17 05:26:12 2008 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache 2.2.8 authdbm woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:46:13 -0000 On Sun, February 17, 2008 08:19, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 07:23:17AM -0600, Doug Poland wrote: >> Hello, > > You're likely suffering from this: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=119711 > > There were some recent changes to www/apache22 which specifically > addressed the above: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/www/apache22/Makefile > Thanks for the quick response. I've read the pr description (119711) but am still a little confused. I used the new Makefile options: make -DWITH_BDB -DWITH_BDB_BASE as mentioned in my OP. The really weird thing is apache-2.2.8 worked with AuthDBM for many tests, but then suddenly stopped working. Perhaps my base install of Berkeley DB is having issues reading .dat files generated from an earlier version? How would one diagnose this? Again, thanks for the help. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 18:24:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B6716A41B for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dyioulos@firstbhph.com) Received: from mail1.firstbhph.com (mail1.firstbhph.com [67.108.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B40113C4CC for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dyioulos@firstbhph.com) X-First1-MailScanner-Watermark: 1203876389.14291@UcpZxOOoGb/tdHUfIbz/Pg Received: from mail1.firstbhph.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.firstbhph.com (8.14.2/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1HI6SQN028887 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:06:28 -0500 From: "Dimitri Yioulos" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:06:28 -0500 Message-Id: <20080217180601.M82827@firstbhph.com> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 24.91.150.12 (dyioulos) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Synonym: Copied by Synonym (http://www.modulo.ro/synonym) to: archive@firstbhph.com X-First1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact First 1 Financial Corporation for more information X-First1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-First1-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 1) X-MailScanner-From: dyioulos@firstbhph.com X-MailScanner-To: archive@firstbhph.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:24:28 -0000 Hello to all. I'm not sure whether to have posted this here or on a VMware list; apologies if I'm in the wrong place. The other day, I did a fresh install of v. 7RC2 from the minimal CD on a CentOS 5.1 box running VMware server 1.0.4. I had previously successfully installed v. 6.2, and upgraded to 6.3 on the same box. All has gone well, except for the installation of VMware Tools. Getting the Tools tarball and extracting the requisite files was trivial. However, when I try to run Vmware-Config-Tools.pl, I get a message saying that the program must be run on a virtual machine. Well, it is. Is there a needed FBSD package I'm missing (the Tools install program doesn't complain about it). A known issue, or bug, maybe? Or is VMware support not yet enabled? Help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Dimitri -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 19:44:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBCF16A41A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE0E13C45E for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from [10.1.11.1] ([10.1.11.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1HJa931003059 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:36:10 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:44:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(HkaQ*`!?YOK?Y!'M`C aP\9nVPF8Q}CilHH8l; ~!42HK6'3lg4J}az@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@k#0 54XDRg=Yn_F-etwot4U$bdTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.362 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: fdisk from fixit CD: geom not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:44:05 -0000 As part of our disaster recovery planning, I'm working up a bare-metal recovery sequence that can be followed by someone who's used Linux (easier to find here than a FreeBSD admin). My initial outline sequence was along the lines of: Boot install CD and choose Fixit fdisk -BI extract saved disklabel from tape and install with bsdlabel Initialise filesystems using stored output of dumpfs -m (from tape) Restore filesystems from tape I'm tripping up on the first step, which although it appears to create the slice, throws a ``Geom not found'' message - which is potentially worrying to someone blindly following a recovery script. Is there a way to avoid this message, or would I be better off using the Configure option of sysinstall (and the W option to write the new slice table) before switching to Fixit mode to recover the disklabel (which is the next bit I need to test ``under lab conditions'')? Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 19:52:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4CB16A418 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D486613C46B for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1HJpfld004221; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:51:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1HJpWAY004218; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:51:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:51:32 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jonathan McKeown In-Reply-To: <200802172144.36924.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Message-ID: <20080217204908.D4208@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200802172144.36924.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fdisk from fixit CD: geom not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:52:31 -0000 > > Boot install CD and choose Fixit get live CD, it's better for this. > fdisk -BI > extract saved disklabel from tape and install with bsdlabel > Initialise filesystems using stored output of dumpfs -m (from tape) > Restore filesystems from tape good you have such i plan. this is rare case today;) > > I'm tripping up on the first step, which although it appears to create the you forgot to bsdlabel -B ad0a (or da0s1a whatever you have) after restore > slice, throws a ``Geom not found'' message - which is potentially worrying to > someone blindly following a recovery script. no idea, i don't use slices (just disklabel) maybe kernel module not loaded? is slice actually created? as far as i remember i've got this message with bsdlabel -B, but i ignored it as everything worked fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 20:07:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AD216A417 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1F213C44B for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from [192.168.1.29] (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153025C22; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:08:10 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <47B893F6.4010507@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:07:18 -1000 From: NetOpsCenter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061211 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <200802172144.36924.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <20080217204908.D4208@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080217204908.D4208@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan McKeown Subject: Re: fdisk from fixit CD: geom not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:07:19 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> Boot install CD and choose Fixit > > get live CD, it's better for this. > >> fdisk -BI >> extract saved disklabel from tape and install with bsdlabel >> Initialise filesystems using stored output of dumpfs -m (from tape) >> Restore filesystems from tape > > good you have such i plan. this is rare case today;) > >> >> I'm tripping up on the first step, which although it appears to >> create the > > you forgot to bsdlabel -B ad0a (or da0s1a whatever you have) after > restore > >> slice, throws a ``Geom not found'' message - which is potentially >> worrying to >> someone blindly following a recovery script. > no idea, i don't use slices (just disklabel) > > maybe kernel module not loaded? > > is slice actually created? > > as far as i remember i've got this message with bsdlabel -B, but i > ignored it as everything worked fine. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Aloha, I get that response with many of the large hard drives I install. I dont think it means anything because once you just carry on FreeBSD doesn't seem to care. I think somebody posted that it was either bios or drive size related at one time. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 20:31:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC5E16A421 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A8313C455 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from ecerejo.netgear.com (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JWE00CG2H0DHQA0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:31:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:31:23 -0500 From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-id: <47B8999B.6010501@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031) Subject: I'm trying to run a tighvnc (xvnc) server but... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:31:27 -0000 I'm getting xdm on the other remote machine, I'm running gnome and that's what I want to get? I see an option for desktop on the Xvnc manpage but how do I find out the name of my desktop? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 20:41:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB0416A41A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:41:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C230013C45B for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dominique.goncalves@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so1662597fka.11 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:41:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=tpS45QPagPeZwLA/LsRO+1PPP3N/UdJALo80YWtM2D4=; b=aMYrAtMWT7efm5qe0IrfkYCN4wNzfNCwZV61GS/fwtfnWRa+g2HLwYQzuvHf7WK8KJknYvwUk7OQTJUe33UvU+mFq4vsoGob92FPUzG3MCEjqv7ZU6qsyUEa6+dBRh4rI9SWPnBq9mtf1k86QCYh0vAZPS7VfrSzWpBw2kKaGMo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U9I00I1pbOUGnWkRIF3x6mvzRRFRBnQoQiF/Wzw67+ljmbygKi6yzvcjax6zHgz0ePstjIwY2l8uPVrN5En6bOeoEijrURGEp7Zj0lZAtMVOt/Mp0yns2DdnIP4QSbBoVg6I/4JrWDgvJqpobWd37Ugzv5FBoL+E5cjNt/eXK/o= Received: by 10.78.161.4 with SMTP id j4mr7677815hue.25.1203279274026; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.156.2 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:14:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7daacbbe0802171214t129d2945l8c035c15c242f95e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:14:34 +0100 From: "Dominique Goncalves" To: "Andrew Falanga" In-Reply-To: <200802161041.08346.af300wsm@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200802161041.08346.af300wsm@gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IPv4 loopback address is missing, why? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:41:21 -0000 Hi, On Feb 16, 2008 6:41 PM, Andrew Falanga wrote: > HI, > > On my father's computer there isn't an IPv4 loopback address being assigned to > the lo0 interface. What would cause this? I've looked at his configs and > they're the same as on my system (obviously something is different, but I > don't know what). I see in his /etc/defaults/rc.conf the "ifconfig_lo0" line > is *NOT* commented out or otherwise altered and his file looks the same as > mine (at least on this point, I haven't contrasted the two entirely). > > So, why would his system not be configuring an IPv4 loopback address? After > bootup, I can add the address manually using ifconfig. Do you have network_interfaces="something" in your /etc/rc.conf ? If so you need also to add lo0. Hope this helps > Andy > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- There's this old saying: "Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 20:53:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E576316A41A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CAD813C474 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1239416fgg.35 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:53:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=4PnMCTvOuKzrPQJ4b6l2Kp2AJE94XPpM6ws9+4JyWkE=; b=eSzed3Cniq6CgomuPhSvuEzfQTbwxAeL22V2/lw3HoPdUw8ugQF/78j7ApHO8G8avt5UTXJa2rIXmNDta//9ntGnwO1fVnGh9hXzWenspU2oqz0Jom6iTAsuwrfF98jTmLPa/788Yjs6f+RWmI7xtb3HB1ogH8jtzSe/q16aI4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HkdCsY7rvWmqRU8IzQhQLtPqgWENY5cEl/+y9kkR4ZJcyXkLJ8hRmlBIzlRriCOrt9PAxGEK841XT9lOiMXK56gV1nPlW3em4dZceewxxWghrkkO0waeWkfOCiGEu3LUGelN/cSrfLaBYD+i1n3nRe0nOStu1rRWRZMILPnEu7c= Received: by 10.82.148.7 with SMTP id v7mr10244432bud.10.1203281602550; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:53:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.120.14 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:53:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:53:22 +0200 From: "Deian Popov" To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com In-Reply-To: <1203124919.7130.215.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.0.22.2.20080215160016.024cfc50@mail.computinginnovations.com> <1203124919.7130.215.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derek Ragona Subject: Re: freebsd dead after attempt on upgrade from 6.2 to 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:53:25 -0000 During my struggle to get my machine up and running without loosing files/settings I made the stupid mistake to rebuild kernel twice without rebooting, which completely made my system unbootable, and couldn't go to loader prompt to boot kernel.old. I have tested numerous times both 6.3 and 7 and the ata driver would not detect my hdd. Here is output of dmesg on 6.2system: FreeBSDGW# dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p11 #0: Sun Feb 17 01:02:10 EET 2008 root@FreeBSDGW:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ACPI APIC Table: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz (2996.81-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4400> Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 1073676288 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1041674240 (993 MB) ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff,0x1000-0x10bf on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe7ffffff at device 0.0o n pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0xbc00-0xbc1f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xb800-0xb81f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xf4100000-0xf41003ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 rl0: port 0xa000-0xa0ff mem 0xf3100000-0xf31000ff ir q 22 at device 2.0 on pci2 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto rl0: Ethernet address: 00:02:44:6b:53:39 fxp0: port 0xa400-0xa41f mem 0xf4000000-0xf4000ff f,0xf3000000-0xf30fffff irq 16 at device 3.0 on pci2 miibus1: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus1 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:08:c7:b3:4e:00 pci2: at device 4.0 (no driver attached) fxp1: port 0xa800-0xa83f mem 0xf31020 00-0xf3102fff irq 20 at device 8.0 on pci2 miibus2: on fxp1 inphy1: on miibus2 inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp1: Ethernet address: 00:0d:61:1a:f0:2e isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 *atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x37 6,0xf000-0xf00f irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0* *ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0* pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 31.5 (no driver attached) fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xd0000-0xd07ff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2996811260 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec *ad1: 76319MB at ata0-slave SATA150* Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a On Feb 16, 2008 3:21 AM, Brian A. Seklecki < bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com> wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 16:03 -0600, Derek Ragona wrote: > > >the prompt has "?" command which shows available boot devices. The > > only > > >device present there is my floppy (fd0) > > Your new kernel is hosed. Its not probing the mass storage device of > your root disk. > > Show us your original dmesg(8), your new dmesg(8), and original > fstab(5). > > > -- > Brian A. Seklecki > Collaborative Fusion, Inc. > > > > > IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended > only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an > intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this > message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, > dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please > notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by > mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 21:09:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E580516A41A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E5E13C4DD for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from [172.16.156.151] (pool-71-182-130-225.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [71.182.130.225]) (AUTH: LOGIN seklecki, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:09:27 -0500 id 0005645E.47B8A287.00012836 From: "Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile)" To: Deian Popov In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.0.22.2.20080215160016.024cfc50@mail.computinginnovations.com> <1203124919.7130.215.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:09:18 -0500 Message-Id: <1203282559.7981.14.camel@new-host.l33tsdal3.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derek Ragona Subject: Re: freebsd dead after attempt on upgrade from 6.2 to 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:09:29 -0000 On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 22:53 +0200, Deian Popov wrote: > I have tested numerous times both 6.3 and > 7 and the ata driver would not detect my hdd. Here is output of dmesg > on 6.2system: File a bug for sure! Here are the relevant lines from the working 6.2 system: atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x37 6,0xf000-0xf00f irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0* ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0* *ad1: 76319MB at ata0-slave SATA150* Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a Can you boot a 6.3/7.x kernel and either FTP the /var/run/dmesg somewhere or boot w/ serial console? Either that or screenshot using camera-phone, works too. ~BAS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 21:45:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F124C16A46D for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B30A13C4E5 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so1689401fka.11 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:45:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qs7rtUap83RdmxYaqK7X4Ktyjl7q+L4H158Tzijsgoc=; b=nWXFuRhGKuF/5N2KD4Aw8TN08F1Hcg+PXcbA9Fb1qoatkMpUb1zh8dKaSY/XGPVKlNBiI4dRB8nkLMbgFKkdCxNivw3m19r05xRhhGzCaPmFGgePGSTVWDF0AjkrvJ8ysnorICVf8fTd21QBtxOP6NULrX1jT9UYceGNjxZWpIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kzgXUM7FdCxo3pQ6ji38oamAuz+2geHNOvNUxGqQsulsQ4tBfvOERYxYrsa6p77VXotds167Jt/Rax/svdS3JomVeZZFlJfl5Kxrh3yRi5CXzLl06TFL6wuOJnDt9z2Evk578JAHX1WLF5oXW5nWHWGkuwG3aM3AHC7duGBVizI= Received: by 10.82.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr10318323bud.13.1203284716578; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.120.14 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:45:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:45:16 +0200 From: "Deian Popov" To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com In-Reply-To: <1203282559.7981.14.camel@new-host.l33tsdal3.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.0.22.2.20080215160016.024cfc50@mail.computinginnovations.com> <1203124919.7130.215.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <1203282559.7981.14.camel@new-host.l33tsdal3.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derek Ragona Subject: Re: freebsd dead after attempt on upgrade from 6.2 to 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:45:20 -0000 I will most definitely do, but this would happen after few days (don't have time to fix the system before that). The output of 6.3 and 7 is the same, so I will provide one from 6.3. Should I use http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html to file the report ? On Feb 17, 2008 11:09 PM, Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile) < bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 22:53 +0200, Deian Popov wrote: > > I have tested numerous times both 6.3 and > > 7 and the ata driver would not detect my hdd. Here is output of dmesg > > on 6.2system: > > File a bug for sure! > > Here are the relevant lines from the working 6.2 system: > > atapci0: port > 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x37 > 6,0xf000-0xf00f irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0* > ata0: on atapci0 > ata1: on atapci0* > > *ad1: 76319MB at ata0-slave SATA150* > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a > > Can you boot a 6.3/7.x kernel and either FTP the /var/run/dmesg > somewhere or boot w/ serial console? Either that or screenshot using > camera-phone, works too. > > ~BAS > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 21:50:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93AE16A417 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39A613C458 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:50:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from [10.1.11.1] ([10.1.11.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1HLgxxp006725 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:42:59 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:51:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200802172144.36924.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <20080217204908.D4208@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080217204908.D4208@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.363 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: fdisk from fixit CD: geom not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:50:52 -0000 On Sunday 17 February 2008 21:51, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Boot install CD and choose Fixit > > get live CD, it's better for this. To be honest, if I'm not using an install CD (which will do the job) I may as well look at making a custom recovery disk which just needs to be booted - but see below. > > fdisk -BI > > extract saved disklabel from tape and install with bsdlabel > > Initialise filesystems using stored output of dumpfs -m (from tape) > > Restore filesystems from tape > > good you have such i plan. this is rare case today;) > > > I'm tripping up on the first step, which although it appears to create > > the > > you forgot to bsdlabel -B ad0a (or da0s1a whatever you have) after restore Well spotted. I did say I hadn't tested this bit yet! > > slice, throws a ``Geom not found'' message - which is potentially > > worrying to someone blindly following a recovery script. > > no idea, i don't use slices (just disklabel) > > maybe kernel module not loaded? > > is slice actually created? Yes. > as far as i remember i've got this message with bsdlabel -B, but i ignored > it as everything worked fine. I'd still rather there wasn't an ``error'' message at all unless there's a genuine error: I'm planning for the case of an operator with limited skills doing a ``monkey see, monkey do'' restore (not trying to be rude, but experienced FreeBSD admins seem to be hard to come by here and I'd rather insult someone's intelligence than give them instructions which don't make sense without years of FreeBSD experience). Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 21:56:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A7F16A417 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C8B13C457 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1HLtSOu004498; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:55:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1HLtRCV004495; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:55:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:55:27 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jonathan McKeown In-Reply-To: <200802172351.27467.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Message-ID: <20080217225355.V4472@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200802172144.36924.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <20080217204908.D4208@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200802172351.27467.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fdisk from fixit CD: geom not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:56:14 -0000 >> is slice actually created? > > Yes. so it's all right. just ignore it. > >> as far as i remember i've got this message with bsdlabel -B, but i ignored >> it as everything worked fine. > > I'd still rather there wasn't an ``error'' message at all unless there's a > genuine error: I'm planning for the case of an operator with limited skills > doing a ``monkey see, monkey do'' restore (not trying to be rude, but monkey can do ifconfig, route and /etc/rc.d/sshd start then you do the rest From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 22:04:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2787416A41A for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) Received: from nlpi043.prodigy.net (nlpi043.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.36.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C491013C4CE for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@chrismaness.com) X-ORBL: [76.238.148.150] Received: from Leticia-B-Desrochers-Computer.local (adsl-76-238-148-150.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net [76.238.148.150]) by nlpi043.prodigy.net (8.13.8 out.dk.spool/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1HM46o3001353 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:04:06 -0600 Message-ID: <47B8AF56.3040706@chrismaness.com> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:04:06 -0800 From: Chris Maness User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to Recover Audio CD /w cdparanoia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:04:11 -0000 Is it possible to recover a audio CD with a corrupt TOC (table of contents) with cdparanoia? I have a little proprietary window app that does this, but in my quest for open source solutions, I was wondering if cdparanoia could handle this job. Any ideas? Thanks, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 22:12:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC4016A417 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8CA13C469 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from [172.16.156.151] (pool-71-182-130-225.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [71.182.130.225]) (AUTH: LOGIN seklecki, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:12:38 -0500 id 0005646D.47B8B156.00013299 From: "Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile)" To: Deian Popov In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.0.22.2.20080215160016.024cfc50@mail.computinginnovations.com> <1203124919.7130.215.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <1203282559.7981.14.camel@new-host.l33tsdal3.biz> Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:12:29 -0500 Message-Id: <1203286349.7981.16.camel@new-host.l33tsdal3.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derek Ragona Subject: Re: freebsd dead after attempt on upgrade from 6.2 to 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:12:40 -0000 On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 23:45 +0200, Deian Popov wrote: > I will most definitely do, but this would happen after few days (don't > have time to fix the system before that). The output of 6.3 and 7 is > the same, so I will provide one from 6.3. Should I use > http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html to file the report ? > Be sure to include the output of: $ sudo pciconf -lv You checked your BIOS for strange IDE settings, rights? ~BAS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 22:26:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A3C16A419 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug.cross@mamaraeng.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312B213C467 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug.cross@mamaraeng.com) Received: from Foxx (c-67-169-49-52.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.169.49.52]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1JQrlz02N8-0007Nx; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:14:12 -0500 From: "Doug C" To: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:14:03 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c871b2$68f73d10$6701a8c0@Foxx> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AchxsmdYahBmHam8SBq4vuZnPs4fkA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19jkdAw8M4Ld11zV2+mI9ziOhM/aaR0RZ54o6s tj0GAlBHf4JByh4Tmb9I419JOH5Bux9Aq7zrOemUf5snUn3q8Z zqvLevkygdowukljrhhnLhfkGgh0/Yd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: X86 cpu without a FPU - Vortex86sx X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:26:47 -0000 I am trying to build FreeBSD 5.5 or 6.3 to run on a board that uses the DMP Vortex86sx SOC. This chip looks like a 486sx, no FPU. Is there a way to make a build that uses software emulation for the FPU, like the old days? I do not see anything in the .cong file that helps. I am trying to end up using pfSense with it. Or what old version could work with this chip? Thanks for any help. Doug Cross Mamara Engineering, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 22:49:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA2B16A418 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:41c8:1:548a::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EC813C457 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:e182:aabd:b390:9889] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:e182:aabd:b390:9889]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13ADF30162; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:49:43 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47B8B9F1.1060701@cran.org.uk> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:49:21 +0000 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug C References: <000001c871b2$68f73d10$6701a8c0@Foxx> In-Reply-To: <000001c871b2$68f73d10$6701a8c0@Foxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: X86 cpu without a FPU - Vortex86sx X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:49:45 -0000 Doug C wrote: > I am trying to build FreeBSD 5.5 or 6.3 to run on a board that uses the DMP > Vortex86sx SOC. This chip looks like a 486sx, no FPU. Is there a way to make > a build that uses software emulation for the FPU, like the old days? I do > not see anything in the .cong file that helps. I am trying to end up using > pfSense with it. Or what old version could work with this chip? > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > Doug Cross > There was a thread about this last month - see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2008-January/022935.html I think the outcome was that it's certainly possible to get the userland built with FPU emulation but there's more work required in the kernel since the MATH_EMULATE/GPL_MATH_EMULATE options were removed in 2003. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 23:12:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A56416A417 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darek@nyi.net) Received: from m.nyi.net (m.nyi.net [66.111.12.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91C5B13C447 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darek@nyi.net) Received: (qmail 66952 invoked by uid 89); 17 Feb 2008 22:45:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (24.184.49.86) by 0 with SMTP; 17 Feb 2008 22:45:35 -0000 Message-ID: <47B8B90D.4060609@nyi.net> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:45:33 -0500 From: "Darek M." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Theil Nielsen References: <8f82c35c0802131110l7c678965qe6d0c3432f008254@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8f82c35c0802131110l7c678965qe6d0c3432f008254@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LDAP user authentication? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:12:19 -0000 Jon Theil Nielsen wrote: > I have googled for a very long time, but I haven't found any useful > howto on this issue. Well, there is > http://www.cultdeadsheep.org/FreeBSD/docs/Quick_and_dirty_FreeBSD_5_x_and_nss_ldap_mini-HOWTO.html > but that seems to be a bit confusing an not up-to-date. I guess it > _should_ be possible - and indeed very useful (especially combinde > with Samba PDC and an easily maintainlable mail server). So please, if > you have any experiences or knowledge of a useful description..! > > Regards, > Jon Theil Nielsen At the risk of a thread-jack... how are home directories handled? Will 'user' have a home dir on the local system? I suppose once LDAP is set up properly, you can then create the home dir, then chown it 'user', with 'user' not being a local user and not in passwd/master.passwd files. So when you chown/chgrp, those commands go through pam/nss/ldap to retrieve the proper id and name from the LDAP server? For anyone that runs such a system, is there a delay when logging in or 'ls -l'ing an LDAP user's files, etc? Or is it unnoticeable if the network between them is resonably responsive? - Darek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 23:21:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A542216A420 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D20E713C44B for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:21:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 31688 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2008 22:54:58 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 17 Feb 2008 22:54:56 -0000 Message-ID: <47B8BB3A.8080704@pacific.net.sg> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:54:50 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug C References: <000001c871b2$68f73d10$6701a8c0@Foxx> In-Reply-To: <000001c871b2$68f73d10$6701a8c0@Foxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: X86 cpu without a FPU - Vortex86sx X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:21:40 -0000 Hi, you might look for older version which have had support for a plain 386. 4.x and maybe 5.2 still have had it. Erich Doug C wrote: > I am trying to build FreeBSD 5.5 or 6.3 to run on a board that uses the DMP > Vortex86sx SOC. This chip looks like a 486sx, no FPU. Is there a way to make > a build that uses software emulation for the FPU, like the old days? I do > not see anything in the .cong file that helps. I am trying to end up using > pfSense with it. Or what old version could work with this chip? > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > Doug Cross > > > > Mamara Engineering, Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 00:49:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A637B16A41A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [202.89.146.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FB013C461 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CB63728438; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:49:27 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:49:27 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: "Darek M." Message-ID: <20080218004927.GA48691@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <8f82c35c0802131110l7c678965qe6d0c3432f008254@mail.gmail.com> <47B8B90D.4060609@nyi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47B8B90D.4060609@nyi.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Jon Theil Nielsen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LDAP user authentication? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:49:29 -0000 On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 05:45:33PM -0500, Darek M. wrote: > Jon Theil Nielsen wrote: > >I have googled for a very long time, but I haven't found any useful > >howto on this issue. Well, there is > >http://www.cultdeadsheep.org/FreeBSD/docs/Quick_and_dirty_FreeBSD_5_x_and_nss_ldap_mini-HOWTO.html > >but that seems to be a bit confusing an not up-to-date. I guess it > >_should_ be possible - and indeed very useful (especially combinde > >with Samba PDC and an easily maintainlable mail server). So please, if > >you have any experiences or knowledge of a useful description..! > > > >Regards, > >Jon Theil Nielsen > > At the risk of a thread-jack... > > how are home directories handled? Will 'user' have a home dir on the > local system? I suppose once LDAP is set up properly, you can then > create the home dir, then chown it 'user', with 'user' not being a local > user and not in passwd/master.passwd files. So when you chown/chgrp, > those commands go through pam/nss/ldap to retrieve the proper id and > name from the LDAP server? There's security/pam_mkhomedir, which should do what you want. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "We laugh in the face of danger, we drop icecubes down the vest of fear" - Edmond Blackadder III From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 02:21:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF60516A46D for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB85113C4CE for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY143-W5 ([65.55.154.40]) by bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:21:44 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.172.126.254] From: Da Rock To: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:21:44 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2008 02:21:44.0446 (UTC) FILETIME=[015639E0:01C871D5] Subject: Still looking for a calendar server... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:21:45 -0000 I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that will w= ork with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server, but they are n= ot going to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means evolution can't use it, = and evolution won't budge either- so a mexican stand-off and I'm caught in = the middle (probably with others). So that brings me back to the Apache module under construction (mod_caldav)= , but nothing seems to be happening with it. I've requested support on the = forum their at sourceforge, but I have had no response for over a week, and= no responses have been issued since april 2006. So now I'm wondering where to start: is it possible to build on this code t= o achieve what I want? Does anyone know where to get help developing an Apa= che module? (especially seeing as this will be my first attempt at c++ prog= ramming) Current issues with this module atm is a missing xattr.h file. I'm wonderin= g if it can be changed to support the extended attributes natively in freeb= sd ufs2. I'd also like to consider using mysql or other db as a backend. I'm scouring the script as of now, and I figure that an Apache module will = be more stable and easier to administer. Any help would be appreciated here= . 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:53:00 -0000 On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 02:21:44AM +0000, Da Rock wrote: > > I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that will work with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server, but they are not going to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means evolution can't use it, and evolution won't budge either- so a mexican stand-off and I'm caught in the middle (probably with others). > You could try Bedework http://www.bedework.org/ and see if that fits with what you want. However, it requires Java Web container to live in. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "In mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them." - Johann von Neumann From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 03:16:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286D716A41A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@default.co.yu) Received: from smtp1.default.co.yu (bv.default.co.yu [87.237.201.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E5E913C448 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@default.co.yu) Received: (qmail 30249 invoked by uid 89); 18 Feb 2008 03:15:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.5.7.109?) (bc@default.co.yu@213.198.226.187) by smtp1.default.co.yu with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 03:15:59 -0000 Message-ID: <47B8F86F.5040604@default.co.yu> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:15:59 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?Qm9nZGFuIMSGdWxpYnJr?= Organization: Default Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47B85A51.6020201@adminlife.net> In-Reply-To: <47B85A51.6020201@adminlife.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: issues with serial console output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:16:02 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Kellermann wrote: | Hi list, | | I'm trying to install a FreeBSD system on a remote server I can only | access via a serial console with 57600 baud. | | There is a Linux rescue system that I use for copying a FreeBSD HDD | image via dd to the harddisk. | | To access the FreeBSD installation via remote serial console I've done | the following things: | | /boot/loader.conf: | console="vidconsole,comconsole" | boot_multicons="YES" | comconsole_speed="57600" | | /boot.config: | -S57600 -Dh | | /etc/ttys: | # only changed the following line | ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.57600" vt100 on secure | | I can see the loader and can choose between the different choices to | boot. After choosing the default entry all I get is this: | | /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=0x44a7c data=0x24c0+0x1b8c | syms=[0x4+0x7d50+0x4+0xaae0] | lots of lines of question marks | | I don't get a login prompt nor the kernel messages. The console does not | response on my keyboard. Any ideas whats wrong? | | Matthias | Hi there, try using standard (also minimal) way, and that's 1. unplug your keyboard/monitor (if any) 2. -P in /boot.config 3. std.9600 in your /etc/ttys That worked for me dozens of times. It also gives you flexibility in case you decide to use keyboard/monitor at some point in future. Hope that helps -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAke4+G8ACgkQo6C4vAhYtCBVjwCZAQ8d8YXKfBYmojSetVedrlQr XxcAnRlFQVkm9t3kEnFcrGklh0+Rdpha =c661 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 03:28:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106BC16A41A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:28:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@default.co.yu) Received: from smtp1.default.co.yu (bv.default.co.yu [87.237.201.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5636E13C455 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:28:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@default.co.yu) Received: (qmail 30045 invoked by uid 89); 18 Feb 2008 03:02:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.5.7.109?) 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User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Sanford References: <47B84CA0.2010509@wilderness.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <47B84CA0.2010509@wilderness.homeip.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP cli segfaults X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:28:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Drew Sanford wrote: | Command line programs for php seem to segfault on a 7.0RC1 box (yes, I | know, I should update to RC2) - for example: | | root@colossus(~/bin)$ php -v | PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 9 2008 13:03:20) | Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group | Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies | zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) php -v | | Any pointers? Just update and see if that fixes it? Thanks in advance. | | | uname output: | FreeBSD colossus.cotharyus.net 7.0-RC1 FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 #0: Sat Feb 9 | 11:43:37 CST 2008 Hi, do you use precompiled port or you built your own? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAke49TUACgkQo6C4vAhYtCDrYwCdFF5CzPr2D9f7bSYJR9kwY3fP v44AnitccXGi4uQQpbKyzmFdjjLCwpPn =aL8h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 03:31:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D2916A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D1B13C45E for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from ecerejo.netgear.com (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JWF00E0T0H5RBO0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:31:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:31:53 -0500 From: "E. J. Cerejo" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-id: <47B8FC29.6000309@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031) Subject: The configuration could not be loaded --- Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:31:55 -0000 Hello I'm running FreeBSD and gnome and when I noticed that when I try to run System->administration->Network, Services, Shared Folders, Time and Date or User and Groups I get this error window: The configuration could not be loaded You are not allowed to access the system configuration. If I run network-admin from terminal I get these messages on the terminal: (network-admin:51013): Liboobs-WARNING **: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory (network-admin:51013): Liboobs-WARNING **: OobsSession object hasn't connected to the bus, cannot register OobsObject (network-admin:51013): Liboobs-WARNING **: could send message, OobsSession hasn't connected to the bus (network-admin:51013): Liboobs-WARNING **: OobsSession object hasn't connected to the bus, cannot register OobsObject (network-admin:51013): Liboobs-WARNING **: could send message, OobsSession hasn't connected to the bus (network-admin:51013): Liboobs-CRITICAL **: oobs_session_get_platform: assertion `priv->connection != NULL' failed If I run services-admin from terminal I get this: (services-admin:51138): Liboobs-WARNING **: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory (services-admin:51138): Liboobs-WARNING **: OobsSession object hasn't connected to the bus, cannot register OobsObject (services-admin:51138): Liboobs-WARNING **: could send message, OobsSession hasn't connected to the bus (services-admin:51138): Liboobs-CRITICAL **: oobs_session_get_platform: assertion `priv->connection != NULL' failed If I run users-admin I get this: (users-admin:51143): Liboobs-WARNING **: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory (users-admin:51143): Liboobs-WARNING **: OobsSession object hasn't connected to the bus, cannot register OobsObject (users-admin:51143): Liboobs-WARNING **: could send message, OobsSession hasn't connected to the bus (users-admin:51143): Liboobs-WARNING **: OobsSession object hasn't connected to the bus, cannot register OobsObject (users-admin:51143): Liboobs-WARNING **: could send message, OobsSession hasn't connected to the bus (users-admin:51143): Liboobs-CRITICAL **: oobs_session_get_platform: assertion `priv->connection != NULL' failed Has anyone experienced this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 03:44:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30D316A419 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2BC13C442 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) Received: from [192.168.5.128] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1I3iIm6014907; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:44:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from john@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:44:17 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080217180601.M82827@firstbhph.com> In-Reply-To: <20080217180601.M82827@firstbhph.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802172244.17932.john@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Dimitri Yioulos Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:44:56 -0000 On Sunday 17 February 2008 01:06:28 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > I'm not sure whether to have posted this here or on a VMware list; > apologies if I'm in the wrong place. > > The other day, I did a fresh install of v. 7RC2 from the minimal CD on > a CentOS 5.1 box running VMware server 1.0.4. I had previously > successfully installed v. 6.2, and upgraded to 6.3 on the same box. > All has gone well, except for the installation of VMware Tools. > Getting the Tools tarball and extracting the requisite files was > trivial. However, when I try to run Vmware-Config-Tools.pl, I get a > message saying that the program must be run on a virtual machine. > Well, it is. Is there a needed FBSD package I'm missing (the Tools > install program doesn't complain about it). A known issue, or bug, > maybe? Or is VMware support not yet enabled? Help would be greatly > appreciated. I just went through almost the same thing, installing FreeBSD 7 under VMware Workstation on Windows. The config-tools script has a hard-coded version check which looks for libc.so.6 under /lib only. Rather than mess with the script, I just hard-linked the library from /usr/local/lib/compat (where it was installed by the compat6x port). Seemed to work fine after that. You'll need to be careful not to erase it if you ever run "make delete-old-libs", though. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 06:21:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2920716A46C for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s16.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s16.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1237A13C45A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY127-W5 ([65.55.132.40]) by bay0-omc1-s16.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:21:04 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [203.129.255.178] From: dhaneshk k To: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:21:03 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2008 06:21:04.0165 (UTC) FILETIME=[70657550:01C871F6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Default named issues in FreeBSD-6.2:Any hints most welcome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:21:04 -0000 People: i have a strange issue with named services in my freeBSD-6.2-Releas= e Box (I have installed the OS from the ISO image from which I installed another = box there named is running fine , but unfortunately in this box its not run= ning ), I can't trace it what went wrong ? Named is not starting , named forcestart I tried but no use , =20 later I found that ther is no executables as /usr/sbin/named =20 && rndc also not found=20 whats went wrong with this box ?all named dirs & files there but no /usr/= sbin/named executables :!!!! So how can I rebuild/reinstall this named services in this FreeBSd6.2 box = ,=20 Expecting your valuable comments to fix this issue : thanks in advance=20 Dhanesh The following informations may be useful for you to judge whats wrong with = my installation=20 [root@sun /usr/sbin]# find / -name named /var/named /var/named/var/run/named /var/run/named /etc/rc.d/named [root@sun /usr/sbin] Here you can see it not lissting the /usr/sbin/named ,= but in my desktop pc it is listing ; 4 [root@sun /usr/sbin]# locate named /etc/namedb /etc/periodic/daily/470.status-named /etc/rc.d/named /usr/include/pcap-namedb.h /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/pcap-namedb.ph /usr/local/lib/python2.5/email/test/test_email_codecs_renamed.py /usr/local/lib/python2.5/email/test/test_email_codecs_renamed.pyc /usr/local/lib/python2.5/email/test/test_email_codecs_renamed.pyo /usr/local/lib/python2.5/email/test/test_email_renamed.py /usr/local/lib/python2.5/email/test/test_email_renamed.pyc /usr/local/lib/python2.5/email/test/test_email_renamed.pyo /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dns/namedict.py /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dns/namedict.pyc /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dns/namedict.pyo /usr/local/lib/python2.5/test/test_email_renamed.py /usr/local/lib/python2.5/test/test_email_renamed.pyc /usr/local/lib/python2.5/test/test_email_renamed.pyo /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/xsd/namedelements.rb /usr/local/man/man3/pcre_copy_named_substring.3.gz /usr/local/man/man3/pcre_get_named_substring.3.gz /usr/local/share/doc/pcre/html/pcre_copy_named_substring.html /usr/local/share/doc/pcre/html/pcre_get_named_substring.html /usr/local/share/python2.4/Tools/pynche/namedcolors.txt /usr/local/share/python2.5/Tools/pynche/namedcolors.txt /usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/formlib/namedtemplate.py /usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/formlib/namedtemplate.pyc /usr/local/www/Zope29/lib/python/zope/formlib/namedtemplate.txt /usr/ports/misc/renamedlgplugins /usr/ports/misc/renamedlgplugins/Makefile /usr/ports/misc/renamedlgplugins/distinfo /usr/ports/misc/renamedlgplugins/pkg-descr /usr/ports/misc/renamedlgplugins/pkg-plist /usr/sbin/named.reconfig /usr/sbin/named.reload /usr/share/man/man8/named.reconfig.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/named.reload.8.gz /var/named /var/named/dev /var/named/etc /var/named/etc/namedb /var/named/etc/namedb/PROTO.localhost-v6.rev /var/named/etc/namedb/PROTO.localhost.rev /var/named/etc/namedb/dynamic /var/named/etc/namedb/make-localhost /var/named/etc/namedb/master /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf /var/named/etc/namedb/named.root /var/named/etc/namedb/slave /var/named/etc/namedb/slave/mydomain.net.slave /var/named/var /var/named/var/dump /var/named/var/log /var/named/var/run /var/named/var/run/named /var/named/var/stats /var/run/named /var/run/named/pid [root@sun /usr/sbin]# 5 [root@sun /var]# cat /etc/rc.d/named #!/bin/sh # # $FreeBSD: src/etc/rc.d/named,v 1.22.2.2 2006/02/24 09:38:36 dougb Exp $ # # PROVIDE: named # REQUIRE: SERVERS cleanvar # KEYWORD: shutdown . /etc/rc.subr name=3D"named" rcvar=3Dnamed_enable command=3D"/usr/sbin/named" extra_commands=3D"reload" start_precmd=3D"named_precmd" start_postcmd=3D"make_symlinks" reload_cmd=3D"named_reload" stop_cmd=3D"named_stop" stop_postcmd=3D"named_poststop" # If running in a chroot cage, ensure that the appropriate files # exist inside the cage, as well as helper symlinks into the cage # from outside. # # As this is called after the is_running and required_dir checks # are made in run_rc_command(), we can safely assume ${named_chrootdir} # exists and named isn't running at this point (unless forcestart # is used). # chroot_autoupdate() { # Create (or update) the chroot directory structure # if [ -r /etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist ]; then mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist \ -p ${named_chrootdir} else warn "/etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist missing," warn "chroot directory structure not updated" fi # Create /etc/namedb symlink # if [ ! -L /etc/namedb ]; then if [ -d /etc/namedb ]; then warn "named chroot: /etc/namedb is a directory!" elif [ -e /etc/namedb ]; then warn "named chroot: /etc/namedb exists!" else ln -s ${named_chrootdir}/etc/namedb /etc/namedb fi else # Make sure it points to the right place. ln -shf ${named_chrootdir}/etc/namedb /etc/namedb fi # Mount a devfs in the chroot directory if needed # umount ${named_chrootdir}/dev 2>/dev/null devfs_domount ${named_chrootdir}/dev devfsrules_hide_all devfs -m ${named_chrootdir}/dev rule apply path null unhide devfs -m ${named_chrootdir}/dev rule apply path random unhide # Copy local timezone information if it is not up to date. # if [ -r /etc/localtime ]; then cmp -s /etc/localtime "${named_chrootdir}/etc/localtime" || cp -p /etc/localtime "${named_chrootdir}/etc/localtime" fi } # Make symlinks to the correct pid file # make_symlinks() { checkyesno named_symlink_enable && ln -fs "${named_chrootdir}${pidfile}" ${pidfile} } named_reload() { rndc reload } named_stop() { echo -n "Stopping named" if rndc stop 2>/dev/null; then echo . else echo -n ": rndc failed, trying killall: " if killall named; then echo . fi fi } named_poststop() { if [ -n "${named_chrootdir}" -a -c ${named_chrootdir}/dev/null ]; t= hen umount ${named_chrootdir}/dev 2>/dev/null || true fi } named_precmd() { # Is the user using a sandbox? # if [ -n "$named_chrootdir" ]; then rc_flags=3D"$rc_flags -t $named_chrootdir" checkyesno named_chroot_autoupdate && chroot_autoupdate else named_symlink_enable=3DNO fi # Create an rndc.key file for the user if none exists # if [ -s "${named_chrootdir}/etc/namedb/rndc.conf" ]; then return 0 fi confgen_command=3D"rndc-confgen -a -b256 -u $named_uid \ -c ${named_chrootdir}/etc/namedb/rndc.key" if [ -s "${named_chrootdir}/etc/namedb/rndc.key" ]; then if [ ! `stat -f%Su ${named_chrootdir}/etc/namedb/rndc.key` = =3D \ "$named_uid" ]; then $confgen_command fi else $confgen_command fi } load_rc_config $name # Updating the following variables requires that rc.conf be loaded first # required_dirs=3D"$named_chrootdir" # if it is set, it must exist pidfile=3D"${named_pidfile:-/var/run/named/pid}" command_args=3D"-u ${named_uid:=3Droot}" run_rc_command "$1" [root@sun /var]# _________________________________________________________________ Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=3D219= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 07:25:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B1216A420 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CC313C459 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m1I7PZ2C057803 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:25:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m1I7PZ0g057802 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:25:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA11351; Sun, 17 Feb 08 23:10:15 PST Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:05:28 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <47b92e38.PPjllqvtMAVuJE1V%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Mounting a read-only md FS as read-only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:25:36 -0000 I'm trying to mount an ext2fs image (in a file), following sec. 17.13.2 of the Handbook and the mdconfig(8) manpage. Since I don't want to change the image, just examine it, I specified -o readonly to mdconfig and the equivalent to mount. Is there some reason why this should not work? The backing file, and the mountpoint, do exist. # ls -ld [filename] -rw-r--r-- 1 perryh perryh 104857600 Mar 16 2007 [filename] # mdconfig -a -t vnode -f [filename] -o readonly md0 # ls -ld /dev/md0 /[mountpoint] crw-r----- 1 root operator 1, 15 Nov 24 21:17 /dev/md0 drwxr-xr-x 2 perryh perryh 512 Feb 17 21:57 /[mountpoint] # mount -r -o noexec -t ext2fs /dev/md0 /[mountpoint] mount_ext2fs: /dev/md0: Read-only file system # mount -o ro,noexec -t ext2fs /dev/md0 /[mountpoint] mount_ext2fs: /dev/md0: Read-only file system # /sbin/mount_ext2fs -o ro,noexec /dev/md0 /[mountpoint] mount_ext2fs: /dev/md0: Read-only file system # mdconfig -l -u 0 md0 vnode 100M /[mountpoint] # uname -a FreeBSD fbsd61 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #30: Mon Jan 1 23:01:34 PST 2007 perryh@fbsd61:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 08:04:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC64A16A418 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s3.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s3.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E1913C457 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY143-W41 ([65.55.154.76]) by bay0-omc1-s3.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:04:21 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.172.126.254] From: Da Rock To: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:04:21 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20080218025258.GB75951@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20080218025258.GB75951@osiris.chen.org.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Feb 2008 08:04:21.0650 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE629F20:01C87204] Subject: RE: Still looking for a calendar server... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:04:22 -0000 ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:52:58 +1300 > From: jonc@chen.org.nz > To: rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server... >=20 > On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 02:21:44AM +0000, Da Rock wrote: >>=20 >> I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that wil= l work with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server, but they ar= e not going to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means evolution can't use i= t, and evolution won't budge either- so a mexican stand-off and I'm caught = in the middle (probably with others). >>=20 >=20 > You could try Bedework http://www.bedework.org/ and see if that fits > with what you want. However, it requires Java Web container to live > in. >=20 > Cheers. > --=20 > Jonathan Chen=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > "In mathematics you don't understand things. > You just get used to them." > - Johann von Neumann > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" It looks almost perfect, but once again I have been stumbled. I need to set= up tomcat to get it working, and tomcat is now installed, but the apache co= nnector is the tough point again- I'm trying to install mod_webapp as per i= nstructions here (http://www.osnews.com/story/3558), but the port breaks wi= th missing includes. It appears FreeBSD just doesn't want to be a calendar server! I am chasing = either the developer or another poor soul trying to get the mod_dav_acl (wh= ich is required by mod_caldav) to work on anything other than linux. Once t= his hurdle is worked out then the caldav module might work very well. As for bedework I'll keep on that track- I have to get somewhere eventually= ! One way or the other.... At the end I'll post the result, and maybe I'll work on a port or something= . _________________________________________________________________ New music from the Rogue Traders - listen now! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=3Dclick&clientID=3D832&r= eferral=3DhotmailtaglineOct07&URL=3Dhttp://music.ninemsn.com.au/roguetrader= s= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 08:14:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561F516A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:14:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9E013C447 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1I8DHpr001571; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:13:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1I8D3d0001564; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:13:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:13:03 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <47b92e38.PPjllqvtMAVuJE1V%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: <20080218091206.M1189@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47b92e38.PPjllqvtMAVuJE1V%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting a read-only md FS as read-only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:14:49 -0000 > want to change the image, just examine it, I specified -o readonly > to mdconfig and the equivalent to mount. Is there some reason why > this should not work? The backing file, and the mountpoint, do > exist. does mount_ext2fs support readonly at all? try -o readonly before -f filename in mdconfig but i don't know if it does matter. > > # ls -ld [filename] > -rw-r--r-- 1 perryh perryh 104857600 Mar 16 2007 [filename] > # mdconfig -a -t vnode -f [filename] -o readonly > md0 > # ls -ld /dev/md0 /[mountpoint] > crw-r----- 1 root operator 1, 15 Nov 24 21:17 /dev/md0 > drwxr-xr-x 2 perryh perryh 512 Feb 17 21:57 /[mountpoint] > # mount -r -o noexec -t ext2fs /dev/md0 /[mountpoint] > mount_ext2fs: /dev/md0: Read-only file system > # mount -o ro,noexec -t ext2fs /dev/md0 /[mountpoint] > mount_ext2fs: /dev/md0: Read-only file system > # /sbin/mount_ext2fs -o ro,noexec /dev/md0 /[mountpoint] > mount_ext2fs: /dev/md0: Read-only file system > # mdconfig -l -u 0 > md0 vnode 100M /[mountpoint] > # uname -a > FreeBSD fbsd61 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #30: Mon Jan 1 23:01:34 PST 2007 perryh@fbsd61:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 08:16:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3D316A41A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165FC13C478 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1I8G4Iu070421 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:16:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:16:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:16:04 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080218081555.GA23698@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: question and a comment..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:16:09 -0000 People, When I discovered that KDE was missing OpenOffice, I built it, and voila! it showed up in the menu. Then I decided to add all of Gnome tools becase I like both. Question: how do I get my new Gnome suite to show up in my KDE menus? I'm happy that the two managers are inter-operable, but there could be even more integration. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 08:29:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F25416A419 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A8313C458 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1I8Liaw026545 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:21:45 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:41:35 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <200802172144.36924.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <200802172351.27467.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <20080217225355.V4472@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080217225355.V4472@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802181041.36332.jonathan@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Score: -4.38 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: fdisk from fixit CD: geom not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:29:40 -0000 On Sunday 17 February 2008 23:55, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > I'd still rather there wasn't an ``error'' message at all unless there's > > a genuine error: I'm planning for the case of an operator with limited > > skills doing a ``monkey see, monkey do'' restore (not trying to be rude, > > but > > monkey can do ifconfig, route and /etc/rc.d/sshd start > > then you do the rest Except this is a disaster recovery plan: it must not rely on me being available. I'm looking at a scenario in which the survivors of the disaster have bought replacement hardware, hired someone who's done a bit of Linux, and handed them a set of offsite backup tapes and a ring-binder. (I can get most sites tapes offsite by 60+km on a daily basis: if a disaster simultaneously takes out, for example, the city of Durban - at sea level, population 3.5 million - and Pietermaritzburg, 80km inland and 750 metres above sea level, I'm not sure restoring our backups is going to be the biggest worry.) Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 08:30:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3418A16A419 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:30:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kkchn.gw@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D612D13C45B for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kkchn.gw@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so407025anc.13 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:30:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=VIZvPFHXWDsUJkELeKXzIgDY05Cech4qym5wOKbYE1o=; b=viJqwnDK3tQnORNFh6z1bV5gBuAZFvRDMzIA1gGxZb5bqUSi+NJvYFhhqWZIm6PAjfyG0wPocsqrXcdgn3yMzUu5XCRcIjj3YnfNnyZdZvLCOhuu5j3Utb7gs0ZmQhvwoa4aVKnK0B3hl4MD1hVZOPqWJRrAVGOq2sxPDgICTrY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=nPpUV3izR02RHarzn/IJnNEN/5lzVjtQt6Fy7PdqlqQPfWYuaKTqXebbTAyottidjqk2dyaC+QQ/wKyAkDrFu0eBBAcXC0soQmo6IMwT75P6AJoBc6Uz/ALzYrgLqPWbBiCOlk9Mb3TsndVBhu9PLOgzgWf6/BjV4x9i8roZMeA= Received: by 10.100.202.9 with SMTP id z9mr10773655anf.42.1203321728748; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:02:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.12.16 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:02:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8d5c61660802180002m42791c2fpa3fb4a788b67a7d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:32:08 +0530 From: "kkchn sms" To: bind-users@isc.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ngharibyan@arm.synisys.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: named executables not found in my box ; (Copied it from another machine)ut few Questions : X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:30:13 -0000 People: please excuse me , but I tried another attempt to fix the issue (I have installed the OS from the ISO image from which I installed another box there named is running fine , but unfortunately in this box its not running ), I can't trace it what went wrong ? Named is not starting , named forcestart I tried but no use , later I found that ther is no executables as /usr/sbin/named && /usr/sbin/rndc & rndc-confgen also not found in this server box whats went wrong with this box ?all named dirs & files there execpt /usr/sbin/named & rndc executables :!!!! So how can I rebuild/reinstall this named services in this FreeBSd6.2 box , Expecting your valuable comments to fix this issue : Your Kind attention to the following section : most important ( After a few days effort to fix this issue , I became desperate and done an attempt as follows ) : I made an attempt(Foolish ?I dont know if so please tell me :) ) to make named running in this box : what I did was I copied the /usr/sbin/named executables from my freeBSD-6.2 Desktop-PC to this slave DNS server machines's /usr/sbin dir and done the following [root@sun /home/dhanesh]# /etc/rc.d/named forcestart rndc-confgen: not found ///// (HERE it compalined about r n d c : I haven't copied rndc & rndc-confgen from my Desktop -PC ;what they will do ? I mean both rndc & rndc-confgen? is rndc & rndc-confgen necessary for a DNS server ? then I can copy these two files also) ////// Starting named. [root@sun /home/dhanesh]# sockstat -4p 53 /// here after copying named exe & and doing named forcestart I found its started working output as follows ) ///// USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS bind named 71340 20 udp4 2xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:53 *:* bind named 71340 21 tcp4 2xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:53 *:* bind named 71340 22 udp4 127.0.0.1:53 *:* bind named 71340 23 tcp4 127.0.0.1:53 *:* [root@sun /home/dhanesh]# cd /etc/namedb /// here this machine I configued as a slave DNS and found that its pulled out the zone file form master zone file from my primary DNS server ) /// [root@sun /etc/namedb]# ls PROTO.localhost-v6.rev make-localhost named.root PROTO.localhost.rev master slave dynamic named.conf [root@sun /etc/namedb]# cd slave/ [root@sun /etc/namedb/slave]# ls db-kL66bE3v mysite.net.slave //here I found a new file(db-kL66bE3v) created !!! what this new file ? it is an emty file too :) and [root@sun /etc/namedb/slave]#vi my.net.slave //shows me that my primary zone file automatically pulled here , I think now this machine is working as a slave DNS Server : /// A Few Questions I have to clarify : Let me ask them to you But my questiona are the follows Q no : Did you think this setup will work well as a slave DNS Server without any issues ( I havn't copied rndc & rndc-confgen) ? Q no. 2 : The step I followed (copying /usr/sbin/named ) from another machine to this server box , is it a right way ? will it make any issues in future ? Q no: 3 : I havn't copied /usr/sbin/rndc & /usr/sbin/rndc-confgen from the other machine to this slave DNS server machine ? what the siginificance og rndc and rndc-confgen ? I f I am not copying these 2 files will make any issues in the working of this server as a slave DNS ? Q no:4 : Whats your advice copy the rndc & rndc executables also to this machine and restart named service ? OR what I did was absolutely wrong , so remove what I have done so far , go for a port installation of bind9 and try again? thanks in advance Dhanesh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 08:32:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5091916A41A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C08B13C4CE for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1I8VKLc001674; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:31:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1I8VEJh001671; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:31:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:31:14 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20080218081555.GA23698@thought.org> Message-ID: <20080218092921.Q1647@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080218081555.GA23698@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: question and a comment..... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:32:53 -0000 please ask on KDE or Gnome mailing lists. while FreeBSD ports install files for openoffice needed by kde (as you've said, icon showed up), but KDE and Gnome it's completely not FreeBSD specific. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 09:45:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4528916A418 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@boldra.com) Received: from hapkido.dreamhost.com (hapkido.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D1613C447 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@boldra.com) Received: from looneymail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (lax-green-bigip-5.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by hapkido.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAAA17A88E for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:20:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (stgt-4dbdab35.pool.einsundeins.de [77.189.171.53]) by looneymail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D19C125EA3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:20:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47B94EAE.3050002@boldra.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:23:58 +0100 From: Boldra Organization: boldra.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: network not performing - where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:45:40 -0000 Hi I'm running 6.2 as a fileserver and sambaPDC on a home network, and I'm having problems with network performance. The machine is an old laptop with a pcmcia 10/100 network card but it seems that I'm not getting better than a 10Mbit connection. This number is based largely on observations copying large files to and from windows, I'm sure there's a better way to test this from BSD. I believe I've eliminated everything outside the network card by doing some tests with a crossover cable and checking the switch and cable. I believe I've eliminated problems inside the machine with various "time dd if= of=" tests. I think ifconfig -a is saying that the os thinks the card is 100Mbit: ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:a0:0c:40:32:a3 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active So my questions are: How do I check the network performance from within freebsd? What other tools can I use to check for network problems? How can I check the network card is configured and working correctly? Thanks for any help! Paul Boldra From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 09:57:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB4D16A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5449E13C455 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from Home.local (32.Red-80-37-158.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.37.158.32]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35DF39822; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:57:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47B9567F.2080803@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:57:19 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boldra References: <47B94EAE.3050002@boldra.com> In-Reply-To: <47B94EAE.3050002@boldra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: network not performing - where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:57:28 -0000 Boldra wrote: > I think ifconfig -a is saying that the os thinks the card is 100Mbit: > > ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.1.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > ether 00:a0:0c:40:32:a3 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > > > So my questions are: > How do I check the network performance from within freebsd? > What other tools can I use to check for network problems? > How can I check the network card is configured and working correctly? It is not irrelevant which protocol you use to copy large files. Some protocols has less overhead. Also, you may experience better performance between bsd stations, if you can try set up two bsd stations to test performance on different protocols, ftp, http, tftp, whatever. I think the best I have had on a 10Mbit/s was 1Mbyte/s - that is about 80% is actually effective payload. Another thing you can do to get more correct numbers is to use the packet filtering statistics. Cheers, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 10:25:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EBC16A418 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A495413C4D3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:25:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1IAPdrL095309 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:25:39 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id m1IAPdHc060834; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:25:39 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:25:39 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200802181025.m1IAPdHc060834@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Get the empty space on a file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:25:44 -0000 Hi, I am writing a C application that would store files in a directory. Before it starts storing files, I would like the application to check is there is enough space in the file system. How to: 1) knowing the name of the directory, how toknow the file system it belongs to (not considering symbolic links, I can decide that the directory is always a real path); 2) knowing the file system from 1), how to check the remaining space in the file system? Thanks in advance, olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 10:29:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CDF16A474 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:29:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84D113C4E3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.38] (a89-182-91-221.net-htp.de [89.182.91.221]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC34A44529 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:29:45 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:29:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200802181025.m1IAPdHc060834@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200802181025.m1IAPdHc060834@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802181129.56727.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: Get the empty space on a file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:29:48 -0000 Am Montag, 18. Februar 2008 11:25:39 schrieb Olivier Nicole: > How to: > > 1) knowing the name of the directory, how toknow the file system it > belongs to (not considering symbolic links, I can decide that the > directory is always a real path); > > 2) knowing the file system from 1), how to check the remaining space > in the file system? man 2 statfs man 2 statvfs The former is freebsd-specific, though (AFAIK); the latter is portable (i.e., POSIX), but might return garbage (which is also indicated in the man-page for it). -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 10:35:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3861616A41A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8E513C44B for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46E8405478; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:35:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47B95F78.2060604@bsdforen.de> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:35:36 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <200802181025.m1IAPdHc060834@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200802181025.m1IAPdHc060834@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Get the empty space on a file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:35:39 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > I am writing a C application that would store files in a directory. > > Before it starts storing files, I would like the application to check > is there is enough space in the file system. > > How to: > > 1) knowing the name of the directory, how toknow the file system it > belongs to (not considering symbolic links, I can decide that the > directory is always a real path); > > 2) knowing the file system from 1), how to check the remaining space > in the file system? > > Thanks in advance, > > olivier You normally just start writing and deal with the errors that come from full file systems when they show up. The C functions set errno accordingly. The reason is that the system lies about the remainig space. Weather there is any space left you may use, depends on the user you're running your program as. It would be kinda stupid if your program didn't work because the disk was full, even when you're running as root and are permitted to use the remaining safety space (8% by default). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 11:48:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE6516A41B for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@farnborough.darq.net) Received: from farnborough.darq.net (fab.darq.net [82.136.41.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760DE13C50A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@farnborough.darq.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by farnborough.darq.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1A21D084 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:22:44 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at darq.net Received: from farnborough.darq.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (farnborough.darq.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qn-OGPRC50TS for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:22:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: by farnborough.darq.net (Postfix, from userid 1057) id 37E5C1D061; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:22:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:22:40 +0000 From: Andrew Von Cid To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080218112239.GA85792@farnborough.darq.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: rc.diskless2 on FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:48:36 -0000 Hey, I'm currently setting up a system that runs off a compact flash disk. I'd like to have memory filesystems for /var, /tmp & /dev to minimise the amount of writes to the cf. I read an article[1] that recommends the use of /etc/rc.diskless2, however I don't have /etc/rc.diskless2 on 6.3 nor on 5.4, 6.1, 6.2 or 7.0. I guess it must have been removed somewhere around 5.x Is there an alternative script in newer versions of FreeBSD? I can create the mfs partitions in fstab and write a simple script that will populate them with the necessary files on boot. However this seems like more work than using something standard like rc.diskless2. Many thanks, Andrew. [1]http://www.feebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/solid-state/ro-fs.html -- accidents happen... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 11:57:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C3116A41A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lubos.matousek@lubnet.net) Received: from webhosting.internets.cz (webhosting.internets.cz [87.236.198.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E694013C500 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lubos.matousek@lubnet.net) Received: from webhosting.internets.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webhosting.internets.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3375C2DE85; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:57:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from gateway (lubnet.net [62.245.82.226]) by webhosting.internets.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D80B2DE66; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:57:03 +0100 (CET) From: "Lubomir Matousek" To: "'Bill Moran'" , "'James'" References: <000a01c87073$9da5fc30$d8f1f490$@net> <1203178935.6099.1.camel@pclmills> <20080216120406.f4f80c07.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20080216120406.f4f80c07.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:56:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000301c87225$52123320$f6369960$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AchwvfkTlhRl+KfCQuOak44aH9lk0wBYRaCA Content-Language: cs X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: rmuser error - shared memory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:57:07 -0000 Thanks very much Bill and James. Hana vs hanka is only typo at this mail (hana is correct, as it is in my box). I apologize for this incorrect information. Bill, you are right, the kernel was build without shared memory support. Option SYSVSHM is not included in the kernel. As I cannot recompile the kernel on this production server now, can be there any impact on instability of my system with missing SYSVSHM option? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Bill Moran Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:04 PM To: oscartheduck@gmail.com Cc: Lubomir Matousek; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) James wrote: > > > On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 09:11 +0100, Lubomir Matousek wrote: > > Dear list, > > > > > > > > I have the following problem when using rmuser (freebsd 6.2) > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > rmuser -v hana > > > > Matching password entry: > > > > > > > > hana:*:1091:1092::0:0:/usr/home/hana:/usr/sbin/nologin > > > > > > > > Is this the entry you wish to remove? yes Remove user's home directory > > (/usr/home/hanka)? yes Removing crontab for (hana):. > > > > Removing at(1) jobs owned by (hana): 0 removed. > > > > Removing IPC mechanismsipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or > > directory > > > > ipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory > > > > ipcs: sysctlbyname: kern.ipc.shmmax: No such file or directory . > > > > Terminating all processes owned by (hana): -KILL signal sent to 0 processes. > > > > Removing files owned by (hana) in /tmp: 0 removed. > > > > Removing files owned by (hana) in /var/tmp: 0 removed. > > > > Removing mail spool(s) for (hana): /var/mail/hana. > > > > Removing user (hana) (including home directory) from the system: Done. > > > > ----------- > > > > > > > > The problem started, when I accidentaly deleted /usr/home directory and I > > had to create a new one. I checked /etc/password file and the direcory > > existed before using rmuser. Can anybody help please? > > > > > > > > > > > > Lubos > > > Looks like the problem is that somewhere within there it's expected that > the home directory isn't /usr/home/hana, it's /usr/home/hanka > > Have you checked /etc/master.passwd to make sure that there's no > mis-entry in there? Or just try creating /usr/home/hanka and see if it > works itself out. Personally, I'm unsure where the "problem" is. The only suspicious thing I see is the inability to remove shared memory segments, which is a bit strange but not wholly unexpected. Did you build a kernel without shared memory? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 12:16:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C1616A420 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@default.co.yu) Received: from smtp1.default.co.yu (anarki.default.co.yu [87.237.201.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DFF313C447 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@default.co.yu) Received: (qmail 40048 invoked by uid 89); 18 Feb 2008 12:16:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.5.7.109?) 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User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dhaneshk k References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default named issues in FreeBSD-6.2:Any hints most welcome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:16:30 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 dhaneshk k wrote: | | People: i have a strange issue with named services in my freeBSD-6.2-Release Box | | | (I have installed the OS from the ISO image from which I installed another box there named is running fine , but unfortunately in this box its not running ), I can't trace it what went wrong ? | | Named is not starting , named forcestart I tried but no use , | | later I found that ther is no executables as /usr/sbin/named | | && rndc also not found | | whats went wrong with this box ?all named dirs & files there but no /usr/sbin/named executables :!!!! | | | So how can I rebuild/reinstall this named services in this FreeBSd6.2 box , | | Expecting your valuable comments to fix this issue : | | | thanks in advance | Dhanesh | | | The following informations may be useful for you to judge whats wrong with my installation | | | [root@sun /usr/sbin]# find / -name named [...] | /usr/sbin/named.reconfig | /usr/sbin/named.reload Hi there, I'm not sure what kind of third party software of administrator you have there, but seems to me that your named binary is missing. However you can reinstall your binary from source tree located in: /usr/src/usr.sbin/named -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAke5dxoACgkQo6C4vAhYtCCWfgCfQv4VWZYw1rySGIwcI1Uis1xA cL4AniojXemkoPH8Ylz1QC+n3nFlePhi =StWc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 12:22:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343ED16A46D for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:22:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@boldra.com) Received: from looneymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (lax-green-bigip-5.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F26E13C478 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:22:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@boldra.com) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (stgt-4dbdab35.pool.einsundeins.de [77.189.171.53]) by looneymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DB316EF12 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:22:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47B979A6.9040901@boldra.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:27:18 +0100 From: Boldra Organization: boldra.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47B94EAE.3050002@boldra.com> <47B9567F.2080803@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <47B9567F.2080803@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: network not performing - where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:22:34 -0000 Thanks for your suggestions Erik, I had only been speed testing with smb. I just did a quick test with wget under cygwin and I'm still getting around 1.5MB/second, which is about the same as I get with smb. scp peaked at around 900KB/second, which also seems to suggest the hardware is only working at 10% capacity. Can you point me to a man page or something for your suggestion "use packet filtering statistics" ? Where do I start? Paul Boldra Erik Norgaard wrote: > Boldra wrote: > >> I think ifconfig -a is saying that the os thinks the card is 100Mbit: >> >> ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 >> inet 192.168.1.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 >> ether 00:a0:0c:40:32:a3 >> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) >> status: active >> >> >> So my questions are: >> How do I check the network performance from within freebsd? >> What other tools can I use to check for network problems? >> How can I check the network card is configured and working correctly? > > It is not irrelevant which protocol you use to copy large files. Some > protocols has less overhead. Also, you may experience better > performance between bsd stations, if you can try set up two bsd > stations to test performance on different protocols, ftp, http, tftp, > whatever. > > I think the best I have had on a 10Mbit/s was 1Mbyte/s - that is about > 80% is actually effective payload. Another thing you can do to get > more correct numbers is to use the packet filtering statistics. > > Cheers, Erik > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 12:37:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BF816A418 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lauasanf@wilderness.homeip.net) Received: from mtai05.charter.net (mtai05.charter.net [209.225.8.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8249A13C442 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lauasanf@wilderness.homeip.net) Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mtai05.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20080218123749.DCQ26788.mtai05.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net>; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:37:49 -0500 Received: from angel.cotharyus.net ([71.87.188.55]) by aarprv06.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080218123749.ROYS14098.aarprv06.charter.net@angel.cotharyus.net>; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:37:49 -0500 Message-ID: <47B97C1D.7070203@wilderness.homeip.net> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:37:49 -0600 From: Drew Sanford User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?Qm9nZGFuIMSGdWxpYnJr?= References: <47B84CA0.2010509@wilderness.homeip.net> <47B8F535.9050405@default.co.yu> In-Reply-To: <47B8F535.9050405@default.co.yu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Chzlrs: 0 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP cli segfaults X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:37:51 -0000 Bogdan Ćulibrk wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Drew Sanford wrote: > | Command line programs for php seem to segfault on a 7.0RC1 box (yes, I > | know, I should update to RC2) - for example: > | > | root@colossus(~/bin)$ php -v > | PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 9 2008 13:03:20) > | Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group > | Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies > | zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) php -v > | > | Any pointers? Just update and see if that fixes it? Thanks in advance. > | > | > | uname output: > | FreeBSD colossus.cotharyus.net 7.0-RC1 FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 #0: Sat Feb 9 > | 11:43:37 CST 2008 > > Hi, > do you use precompiled port or you built your own? Built from ports, as opposed to using a binary package, if that's what you're asking. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 12:44:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53FD16A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A39013C442 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:44:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from Home.local (32.Red-80-37-158.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.37.158.32]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9183982D; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:44:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47B97DBB.7090406@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:44:43 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boldra References: <47B94EAE.3050002@boldra.com> <47B9567F.2080803@locolomo.org> <47B979A6.9040901@boldra.com> In-Reply-To: <47B979A6.9040901@boldra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: network not performing - where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:44:45 -0000 Boldra wrote: > Can you point me to a man page or something for your suggestion "use > packet filtering statistics" ? Where do I start? If you have a firewall enabled this usually creates statistics on the packets sent and received. If not, you can create a simple filter that just passes everything. With packet filter something like pass on ed1 all should do, where ed1 is the name of you interface. It can show you just how much data is actually sent when you transfer that 100Mbyte file. I'm a bit outdated on the current situation, it's been a long time since I've had anything but FreeBSD to worry about - that is, I don't care about optimal performance for those who choose to use windows :) You will always loose something due to overhead in protocols on different levels, for example tcp send back ACK packets, using scp your system will also do encryption and decryption, etc. I recall once also experiencing performance issues when transfering data between linux and freebsd - that was more than 5 years ago, but I would always assume performance to be best between to equivalent systems. I don't know your brand of interface, but while the interface may formally support 100Mbit/s, in reality other things also affect performance, particularly cheap NICs perform bad in peak load, although they do communicate at 100Mbit. Don't ask me about details, but buffering is one of the issues AFAIK. Also, check MTU on the windows machines, that can be a killer if it forces fragmentation. I recall once that some set the MTU to 1492 or some other value. It can have significant impact on performance if MTUs differ and packets are fragmented. There is the MTU ping test: DOS> ping ip.n.u.m -f -l 1492 see http://help.expedient.com/broadband/mtu_ping_test.shtml Cheers, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 12:53:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C0616A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C5813C461 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m1ICrrMX006450; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:53:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jonathan McKeown" , Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:55:01 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <200802140919.29899.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:53:56 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:53:57 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jonathan > McKeown > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:19 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin? > > > On Thursday 14 February 2008 00:14, Erik Osterholm wrote: > > > IMHO, for an individual to state that Flash is not a relevant issue > > > simply because they choose not to employ it, is similar to patient > > > claiming that cancer research is a waste of time simply because they > > > are not afflicted with the condition. > > > > Bad analogies are like a leaky screwdriver. > > > > All throughout this thread, there have been people mixing up issues. > > It's true that Flash is used on many, many websites, but one of the > > earliest "complaints" I saw regarded Flash-only sites--sites which > > require Flash in order to navigate.  These sites seem fairly rare.  It > > is manipulative and misleading to argue that because so many sites > > /make use of Flash/, then /Flash has become an integral part of the > > web/.  I browse with Flash disabled all of the time, only enabling it > > specifically when I need it to use the web site.  It certainly > > happens--but it's not a constant thing.  I'm aware that Flash content > > exists on the pages I view, but most of the time it's supplemental, > > and the page degrades quite nicely without it. > > This is the best summary of the issues I've seen in this thread. > > One last time, because we're going round in circles: > > I don't have a problem with people putting in the effort to get > Flash working: > I'd be even happier if Adobe would do it themselves; but there's not much > that Flash is essential for, and to claim that ``half the entire Web'' is > unusable without Flash, seems somewhat overstated. There are many > sites which > degrade, more or less gracefully, in the absence of Flash, but, > like Erik, I > don't come across many that are completely unusable. > I agree. My experience is that most of the advertising sites use Flash. My guess is with the sourceforge thing that what is requiring it is not Sourceforge itself, but rather some 3rd party advertising site that their page is liked to. I see this quite a lot on cnn.com and so on. Not being able to see those sites is no loss, in my opinion. I don't, however, put any credibility into the conspiracy theories that Flash has code to disable it on BSD. MacOS X runs flash just fine and MacOS X is just as BSD as FreeBSD is. The thing is that you can easily run Remote Desktop on your FreeBSD system and remote-term into a headless Windows XP system you have kicked under your desk, so I don't see that even if Flash was Windows-Only it would be a great problem. Or, you can SSH into a convenient MacOS X system and run Firefox as a client on the MacOS X system and display it's output on your FreeBSD desktop. So please explain to me how exactly FreeBSD not being able to run Flash is a huge problem? > > I still haven't seen any comeback on the accessibility issue: is > it really the > case that banks in the USA (for example) have websites that are not > accessible to a section of the population, and that this isn't > covered by the > ADA? (I'm not trying to score points here: I'm genuinely interested). > There is a court case right now that's wending it's way though the US courts that addresses this. If you google around for it you can come up with it. As I recall some blind person sued a public website because of this. My guess however is that it won't pan out. In the US the law allows for alternative access for disabled. For example, if you build a building with a big impressive staircase leading up to the front entrance for architectural asthetic reasons, you don't have to make it wheelchair accessible if you have a ramp to a door around the side that leads to the same interior entrance. The fact is in building construction, most of what disabled people want (lack of stairs, wide doors, etc.) actually reduce your liability with normal people from tripping and such, which is why with new construction it's usually stupid to not design it ADA-compliant, aside from the building code requirements which require it anyway. With websites, if an organization's only portal to the public is the web, I think they probably are going to have to make their site readable by blind people. Which means flash isn't going to be compatible. But an organization could sidestep this by publishing an 800 number going to some call center in India, and most banks have pretty extensive telephone banking whereby you call the bank's 800 number and use a touch-tone phone to key in your account number and such to do your banking. As a matter of fact I routinely use the 800 number voice response unit of my bank to check bank balances rather than logging into the website - it's faster. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 13:04:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FE416A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3F613C44B for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 3516A2290A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:03:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315B92290A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:03:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from lisa.esiee.fr (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC6FE7927 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:04:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47B98251.5040000@esiee.fr> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:04:17 +0100 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: lagg driver at 6.3-R ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:04:25 -0000 Hello I plan to migrate my mailhub to 6.3-R soon, the machine ( IBM X3650) has two giga-ethernet interfaces and I really would like to use the LAGG driver as the machine is connected to a Cisco 3750 switch. Is this driver OK for an email production environement ? Thanks a lot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 13:42:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E1916A420 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@default.co.yu) Received: from smtp1.default.co.yu (bv.default.co.yu [87.237.201.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 455CB13C44B for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc@default.co.yu) Received: (qmail 41935 invoked by uid 89); 18 Feb 2008 13:42:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.5.7.109?) (bc@default.co.yu@213.198.226.187) by smtp1.default.co.yu with SMTP; 18 Feb 2008 13:42:46 -0000 Message-ID: <47B98B55.20301@default.co.yu> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:42:45 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?Qm9nZGFuIMSGdWxpYnJr?= Organization: Default Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47B84CA0.2010509@wilderness.homeip.net> <47B8F535.9050405@default.co.yu> <47B97C1D.7070203@wilderness.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <47B97C1D.7070203@wilderness.homeip.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PHP cli segfaults X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:42:49 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Drew Sanford wrote: |> Hi, |> do you use precompiled port or you built your own? | | Built from ports, as opposed to using a binary package, if that's what | you're asking. Hi, same thing happened to me couple of times and caused by: 1. Userland and kernel was out of sync 2. Dependencies that PHP relies on were cause of segfaults. Recursive portupgrade helps. 3. Messing with libmap.conf or CFLAGS, don't use -pthread nor high optimization flags. It's really hard to tell out of the bloom what might be causing it, but that's the price you need to pay if you are tracking unstable branch. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAke5i1UACgkQo6C4vAhYtCAu7ACffvs4sxfGnewYFfOmEqQW4+AW 7fgAnjJt3lWZio6e+J5t+39bIbf653En =GIYe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 14:17:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAD416A4A0; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE7F13C504; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB13405478; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:17:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47B9938B.2020708@bsdforen.de> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:17:47 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman References: <20080208231403.B52464500E@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20080208231403.B52464500E@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, flz@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to mount partition with ntfs-3g X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:17:53 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: >> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:11:37 +0100 >> From: Dominic Fandrey >> >> Kevin Oberman wrote: >>> I would love to be able to mount my NTFS partition R/W, but the FreeBSD >>> NTFS support is read-only (or almost read-only), so I installed >>> fusefs-ntfs which I thought would allow this. >>> >>> After installation (which also pulled in fusefs-kmod, fusefs-libs, and >>> libublio), I added fusefs_enable="yes" to my rc.conf. Then, after >>> starting fusefs (which means loading the fuse kernel module), I tried: >>> # mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /C >>> mount: /dev/ad0 : Operation not supported by device >>> >>> I got the same message for a USB drive on /dev/da0. >>> >>> Documentation on ntfs-3g is pretty limited. Did I miss something? I >>> really rather not convert my new USB disk to FAT32 if I don't have to. >> mount only calls a couple of file systems in the old fashioned way. One of >> them is ntfs. What I did to be able to mount NTFS systems with mount -t >> (obligatory if you want to use fstab to mount), I did the following: >> >> # mv /sbin/mount_ntfs /sbin/mount_ntfs.bak >> # ln -s /usr/sbin/mount_ntfs-3g /sbin/mount_ntfs >> >> This is one of my /etc/fstab entries >> /dev/ntfs/2vault /mnt/vault ntfs rw,late,gid=5,umask=113,dmask=002 0 0 >> > > Cool! This is exactly what I was looking for. Since mount_ntfs-3g was > installed, I assumed that it would work with nmount, but I guess not. > > Thanks very much! I think that this will solve all of my ntfs issues for > a while. I have a fix now that I like better: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=120784 You can apply it in the following way: # cd /usr/src # fetch -o mount.patch \ 'http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?prp=120784-1-diff&n=/patch-1.diff' # patch < mount.patch # cd sbin/mount # make all install clean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 15:02:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F423116A41B for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC0313C45D for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j2so747862tid.3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:02:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=PDBs7kYJ+Y0P44YbFJQdOzx+x/EfrSOhnHO0wHh6qeY=; b=Z0UuS23dqBZNp8TOo7CxCc1ZdEOtVv8XqxtEZkvGcvRgGrMR/iIr7oZr2yEYbISBIOB2DQe+7j3aCVrHs1GzNPk9Folu+vlXc08QIlpqO+B6Nsul8lMqIkeFYQDC24d2k/TesoWX7PN8Cy1BVaCSgMjJOQbqyfW15jfzWUd41U4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=nd3o0U5lzf/irWCoAqwJazTp7Vt47KnnHg94j6sjP1qN0CiwZJKOYeb3l6lkjydN1DDT7bULeeA3EzpdwFYD4r24QXt4lLXlIdHMAUODgT7+2MMB8XYiozrA7D2df21I9E1hE5BEgOCwtpvK4qOMrrHRuWTyCrbWWXCLtsSllpY= Received: by 10.150.230.2 with SMTP id c2mr2043397ybh.161.1203346955003; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.148.8 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:02:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1563a4fd0802180702y439a9fb1k6eaa059051f667d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:32:34 +0530 From: "navneet Upadhyay" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: make not working gmake works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:02:39 -0000 Hi, I have a Makefile . It works well with Linux versions when i use make command.The make command fails on FreeBSD but gmake works fine. Any clues on this behavior? Thanks, Navneet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 15:06:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56D516A418 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D10E13C468 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so2857199waf.3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:06:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zhCF5qQ7+0CxX1G7nDbN/HQUp2U1jpYCSRW9xkXlpGQ=; b=MwL5fdQr0UZpcTN+IbYhj9SD0cOYL1jfqnRXkrN2IzE/p7hBi31jkU2A9zg603PnZnCBu8C1HpRRtWCr1QcIYQmbhif1JkwM3LR7k4kwy4MERB0lwIeaPp+G3NJeLO2bzbkzTzD5U7gvRjltdnaqKEspwTT+AQF8dOq+HUrYzT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jPrmV5qAgiUcmF/i9CObm4R72Fbxk4LwFezgQZ/OMJL2KnmYqRai4RtOnAs430LuJMjaHC+iaXFjKfb808UOSRWRS24XpYrwdZKJ7V1oa/VXJ/VpAAvRqtmjKPz4rzxTh/jqB9DOHyl2HKJPUzZ2N+hk9HEqRWgPFZ4YpyK1QR8= Received: by 10.114.200.2 with SMTP id x2mr242764waf.19.1203347209028; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.13.16 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:06:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8d23ec860802180706j5ec2d338jebba78e7ce6191aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:06:48 -0500 From: Schiz0 To: "navneet Upadhyay" In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802180702y439a9fb1k6eaa059051f667d1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1563a4fd0802180702y439a9fb1k6eaa059051f667d1@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make not working gmake works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:06:54 -0000 On Feb 18, 2008 10:02 AM, navneet Upadhyay wrote: > Hi, > I have a Makefile . It works well with Linux versions when i use make > command.The make command fails on FreeBSD but gmake works fine. > > Any clues on this behavior? > > Thanks, > Navneet The FreeBSD "make" is different than linux's "make." Linux uses GNU's make. BSD has it's own version. "gmake" is the command of GNU make for bsd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 15:09:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E55916A46D for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:09:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D2C13C458 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:09:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.38] (a89-182-91-221.net-htp.de [89.182.91.221]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24393A44531 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:09:37 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:09:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1563a4fd0802180702y439a9fb1k6eaa059051f667d1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802180702y439a9fb1k6eaa059051f667d1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802181609.47086.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: make not working gmake works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:09:38 -0000 Am Montag, 18. Februar 2008 16:02:34 schrieb navneet Upadhyay: > I have a Makefile . It works well with Linux versions when i use make > command.The make command fails on FreeBSD but gmake works fine. > > Any clues on this behavior? make != gmake on *BSD. BSD-make (i.e., make) is a completely different beast from GNU-make (i.e., gmake). Generally, Makefiles written for one (except for very simple ones) won't run under the other, and vice-versa. man make should get you started on the BSD-make syntax and its featureset. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 15:10:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD97116A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B65113C468 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F325D40592F; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:10:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47B99FCA.9090408@bsdforen.de> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:10:02 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: navneet Upadhyay References: <1563a4fd0802180702y439a9fb1k6eaa059051f667d1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802180702y439a9fb1k6eaa059051f667d1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make not working gmake works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:10:04 -0000 navneet Upadhyay wrote: > Hi, > I have a Makefile . It works well with Linux versions when i use make > command.The make command fails on FreeBSD but gmake works fine. > > Any clues on this behavior? > > Thanks, > Navneet Linux Distributions normally have GNU-Make installed as make. GNU-Make ist what you're running if you run gmake under FreeBSD. If you run make on FreeBSD you're running a variant of pmake, which has an entirely different syntax from GNU-Make. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 15:12:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EACD16A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBD513C457 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j2so751617tid.3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:12:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=+viBwtGKTDmV6DKtG/LLgWDpoZaMQ3oLGBBUiCZ3M0c=; b=vvFB5PorXJAiCR2B89Z3RkiVjUdMBVhEdDppINoKfrHu/Bq7bXA6rrnu8IrnBOTrrUTD7TFPS21pQgIVyEi89HWwDJbXemuIp0uYdMloB21GP/NNFaPRWbaxkLmL7pZkUurxqq3/dZyQnhcqrms2NRhu7yoPdWL4lEPYcySi3sE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Uxp31eJgV7IhB/KI9mrR3AW9bJkHQe7m/TSL7N2iwsTvHBjLxmxTtMwmh8qORwQyIq6nGEnjlK4140f1RR8pYzswVEYUxmjtFmuPc89sjqOITzrcd45ptVwJn+JeYmq1L1M3euUtegcGQlDd9zuwphdrEiGSEEfb6Ph/CNIRP2c= Received: by 10.150.200.8 with SMTP id x8mr2046296ybf.149.1203347555913; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:12:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.148.8 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:12:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:42:35 +0530 From: "navneet Upadhyay" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:12:39 -0000 Hi , For our product we generally compile the binaries on 32 bit systems and use them for both 32 and 64 bit systems. like we have same binaries for 32 bit and 64 bit RHEL. We are porting the product to FreeBSD and when we tried the same, i.erunning binaries compiled on 32 bit FreeBSD 6.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD system they produce *core dump.* Any known reasons, do we have to compile binaries on 64 bit machine. Thanks, Navneet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 15:21:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD0916A41A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norman@apache.org) Received: from vs159071.vserver.de (hiphopcorner.de [62.75.159.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8970B13C4DB for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norman@apache.org) Received: from [10.99.0.2] (unknown [213.188.107.182]) by vs159071.vserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5260EBE855C; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:21:01 +0000 (UTC) From: Norman Maurer To: navneet Upadhyay In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:20:54 +0100 Message-Id: <1203348054.24973.2.camel@norman-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:21:03 -0000 Am Montag, den 18.02.2008, 20:42 +0530 schrieb navneet Upadhyay: > it and 64 bit RHEL. > > We are porting the product to FreeBSD and when we tried the same, > i.erunning binaries compiled on 32 bit FreeBSD > 6.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD system they produce *core dump.* > > > Any known reasons, do we have to compile binaries on 64 bit machine. > > Thanks, Do you have the lib32's installed ? bye Norman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 15:24:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080D016A4C1 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:24:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEAF13C442 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE7A405478; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:24:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47B9A31B.7060602@bsdforen.de> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:24:11 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: navneet Upadhyay References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:24:14 -0000 navneet Upadhyay wrote: > Hi , > For our product we generally compile the binaries on 32 bit systems > and use them for both 32 and 64 bit systems. like we have same binaries for > 32 bit and 64 bit RHEL. > > We are porting the product to FreeBSD and when we tried the same, > i.erunning binaries compiled on 32 bit FreeBSD > 6.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD system they produce *core dump.* > > > Any known reasons, do we have to compile binaries on 64 bit machine. This should not happen. I would blindly guess at a linking problem. Are you using any shared libraries that do not belong to the base system? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 16:00:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727CD16A46B for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonylabarbara@aol.com) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9A413C465 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:00:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonylabarbara@aol.com) Received: from tonylabarbara@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id n.c19.2f3bf347 (34919) for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from WEBMAIL-MA05 (webmail-ma05.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.69]) by cia-da03.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA034-886747b9ab811a8; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:00:01 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:00:01 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 190.166.0.62 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: tonylabarbara@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34032-STANDARD Received: from 190.166.0.62 by WEBMAIL-MA05.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.69) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:00:01 -0500 Message-Id: <8CA405E73C8956B-9DC-24CB@WEBMAIL-MA05.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: My Rebuild Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:00:16 -0000 Hi: I wrote earlier, got one response. It was way off course, so I=C2=B4m rewrit= ing. No, I can rebuild X11 if I can solve the following problem: Strange problem here. /usr/local got wiped for no reason I can think of. Eve= rything. Nothing there at all. I can=C2=B4t=20 even change the pw. Nothing on this build anyway. But went to rebuild (6.2)=20= and=20 got caught in a loop -- note, that=C2=B4s a loop -- in these steps: -- Select Drive -- FDISK Partition Editor ("Q") -- Install Boot Manager I would prefer to rebuild (note: rebuild) because I want to add X Windows (t= hat=C2=B4s ADD X) and I=C2=B4d rather not=20 have to rebuild the kernel. How can I wipe the drive? If I cannot rebuild, c= an I=20 just add the ports? What about changing pw? TIA, Tony ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.= aol.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 16:04:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859FB16A419 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1374F13C4E8 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j2so765853tid.3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:04:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=IEL+1K/YvhWUV5W1FwDBwmDV+Vzqwypq/Pel29vCUoQ=; b=VZMiXK72H79SUm2v+A6qfqvH0cgPaQGqztJBCIYBe4PtgsXlOC35Y1NFuGQVckFwOc+U86AuHsTZ/ty+fx38YzI1E9jnwWtyyJTeBtEV/Y+C878ntYN64IjF/qEEKRxMdZiaVhf2UkJk6ovnueOv7i0100jwImDII/S2wE38bWc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WBGv1W2+83mSSUdXBY3SJ00RIx6Xr/YjFedfspxJTg3qjZwJfV8psYRXUtJrST+9qRL5hOMx4fLqiip6mu+yAmoFWS8LPCD0w0cfQot+eBsP9WKL+V0EGsmCb7MlmqQQ5H9EbINJ/SCJXW2AqZJQYelwJxwgSvY2IFkfNPrYEPo= Received: by 10.150.58.5 with SMTP id g5mr2075526yba.89.1203350660189; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.148.8 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:04:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1563a4fd0802180804y168d7c84pc15d2cd4e71e9023@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:34:20 +0530 From: "navneet Upadhyay" To: "Norman Maurer" In-Reply-To: <1203348054.24973.2.camel@norman-laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> <1203348054.24973.2.camel@norman-laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:04:23 -0000 I checked in usr/local/ and didnt find the lib32 folder, so i guess they are nt installed . Why do i need them ? can u put some light on it ? On 2/18/08, Norman Maurer wrote: > > > Am Montag, den 18.02.2008, 20:42 +0530 schrieb navneet Upadhyay: > > it and 64 bit RHEL. > > > > We are porting the product to FreeBSD and when we tried the same, > > i.erunning binaries compiled on 32 bit FreeBSD > > 6.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD system they produce *core dump.* > > > > > > Any known reasons, do we have to compile binaries on 64 bit machine. > > > > Thanks, > > Do you have the lib32's installed ? > > bye > Norman > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 16:13:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C7116A419 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0EC13C478 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j2so769243tid.3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:13:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=9/ZlcRmAGQy7/l4JWaCBVgw00+necD4dzZ3ZzVdbTmI=; b=rQrsiG5oiDnCwBD+PibRqc+6YgOQxFfF3GWqk7JPXCzX3fZN83A4SFk4U8PZNwtGV3zBk5QGIqiWBY+blvG8KH2kUeCUdriomJIq74EbEk5Wv7ndk3Wju/zHbA7ThJhuE/hCxCvdgQUGXOaqmfZeuKv7WWM2MLj7PtsedHZ4byI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pMXGaKgUcmzOncRFtuNJw/YE109cmfcdYZJFsxZeEOp0JEauaOhOaJO+eZHBKYJiWgcshz3HybC9Ow0llAg4bTauRo9BdxudiSRvyPQanx6/aaGEeDeirIyBPs63MDuXIyxzK0y4q17CdEiHZqFtVHiDaxzw+Xi5WLi44pR+LY4= Received: by 10.150.198.14 with SMTP id v14mr2075394ybf.134.1203351224895; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:13:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.148.8 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:13:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1563a4fd0802180813l7d80cb4en9adfd838f4591712@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:43:44 +0530 From: "navneet Upadhyay" To: "Dominic Fandrey" In-Reply-To: <47B9A31B.7060602@bsdforen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> <47B9A31B.7060602@bsdforen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:13:48 -0000 Yes i am using few libs not built on FreeBSD but they work fine on 32 bit freeBSD , so in principle they shud have the same behavior on 64 one. On 2/18/08, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > > navneet Upadhyay wrote: > > Hi , > > For our product we generally compile the binaries on 32 bit > systems > > and use them for both 32 and 64 bit systems. like we have same binaries > for > > 32 bit and 64 bit RHEL. > > > > We are porting the product to FreeBSD and when we tried the same, > > i.erunning binaries compiled on 32 bit FreeBSD > > 6.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD system they produce *core dump.* > > > > > > Any known reasons, do we have to compile binaries on 64 bit machine. > > This should not happen. I would blindly guess at a linking problem. Are > you > using any shared libraries that do not belong to the base system? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 16:23:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DA916A418 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:23:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2612913C45A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from Home.local (32.Red-80-37-158.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.37.158.32]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620AA39822; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:23:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47B9B118.3060402@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:23:52 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tonylabarbara@aol.com References: <8CA405E73C8956B-9DC-24CB@WEBMAIL-MA05.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CA405E73C8956B-9DC-24CB@WEBMAIL-MA05.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My Rebuild Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:23:55 -0000 tonylabarbara@aol.com wrote: > Hi: > I wrote earlier, got one response. It was way off course, so I´m rewriting. No, I can rebuild X11 if I can solve the following problem: > > Strange problem here. /usr/local got wiped for no reason I can think of. Everything. Nothing there at all. I can´t > even change the pw. Nothing on this build anyway. But went to rebuild (6.2) and > got caught in a loop -- note, that´s a loop -- in these steps: > -- Select Drive > > -- FDISK Partition Editor ("Q") > > -- Install Boot Manager > > I would prefer to rebuild (note: rebuild) because I want to add X Windows (that´s ADD X) and I´d rather not > have to rebuild the kernel. How can I wipe the drive? If I cannot rebuild, can I > just add the ports? What about changing pw? 1) I'm not sure what you mean about "rebuild" - I wouldn't ever need fdisk or install boot manager for that - are you reinstalling? Are you using sysinstall for recovery? 2) Are you having an error that gets you into single user or similar? Maybe you can't change the password because your root partition is mounted read only. Post the output of this command: # mount For example, when my root partition is read-only, I get /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local, read-only) and also post output from, # df Cheers, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 16:26:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1C416A41A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F8C13C455 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1IGMwCs002234; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:22:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1IGMaFE002221; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:22:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:22:36 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: navneet Upadhyay In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080218172118.L2179@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:26:08 -0000 > and use them for both 32 and 64 bit systems. like we have same binaries for > 32 bit and 64 bit RHEL. > > We are porting the product to FreeBSD and when we tried the same, > i.erunning binaries compiled on 32 bit FreeBSD > 6.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD system they produce *core dump.* no idea. i use it but rarely, having no problems. consider adding extra logs (printfs, etc.) to get know when it crashes and fill a problem report > > > Any known reasons, do we have to compile binaries on 64 bit machine. > you should, as is it not a problem but performance is much better. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 16:49:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E865116A418 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC71913C459 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C7EEBC3B; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:49:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:49:22 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: "navneet Upadhyay" Message-Id: <20080218114922.3b7e1328.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802180804y168d7c84pc15d2cd4e71e9023@mail.gmail.com> References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> <1203348054.24973.2.camel@norman-laptop> <1563a4fd0802180804y168d7c84pc15d2cd4e71e9023@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Norman Maurer Subject: Re: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:49:25 -0000 In response to "navneet Upadhyay" : > I checked in usr/local/ and didnt find the lib32 folder, so i guess they are > nt installed . > > Why do i need them ? can u put some light on it ? I'm not sure of the details why you need them, but no ia32 program that I've seen runs properly on amd64 without. If you're running a release version, you can run sysinstall, then go to configuration -> distributions and select to install. You can also build/install world and this should grab them by default. > > > On 2/18/08, Norman Maurer wrote: > > > > > > Am Montag, den 18.02.2008, 20:42 +0530 schrieb navneet Upadhyay: > > > it and 64 bit RHEL. > > > > > > We are porting the product to FreeBSD and when we tried the same, > > > i.erunning binaries compiled on 32 bit FreeBSD > > > 6.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD system they produce *core dump.* > > > > > > > > > Any known reasons, do we have to compile binaries on 64 bit machine. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Do you have the lib32's installed ? > > > > bye > > Norman > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 18:05:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B20416A476 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D9D13C4CC for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5907740547A; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:05:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47B9C8D8.5060807@bsdforen.de> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:05:12 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: navneet Upadhyay References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> <47B9A31B.7060602@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802180813l7d80cb4en9adfd838f4591712@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802180813l7d80cb4en9adfd838f4591712@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:05:21 -0000 navneet Upadhyay wrote: > On 2/18/08, Dominic Fandrey wrote: >> navneet Upadhyay wrote: >>> Hi , >>> For our product we generally compile the binaries on 32 bit >> systems >>> and use them for both 32 and 64 bit systems. like we have same binaries >> for >>> 32 bit and 64 bit RHEL. >>> >>> We are porting the product to FreeBSD and when we tried the same, >>> i.erunning binaries compiled on 32 bit FreeBSD >>> 6.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD system they produce *core dump.* >>> >>> >>> Any known reasons, do we have to compile binaries on 64 bit machine. >> This should not happen. I would blindly guess at a linking problem. Are >> you >> using any shared libraries that do not belong to the base system? >> > > Yes i am using few libs not built on FreeBSD but they work fine on 32 bit > freeBSD , so in principle they shud have the same behavior on 64 one. I suppose you are aware that they have to be 32-Bit libraries as well, for your 32-Bit application to work? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 18:47:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF82416A418 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dyioulos@firstbhph.com) Received: from mail1.firstbhph.com (mail1.firstbhph.com [67.108.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A924813C468 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dyioulos@firstbhph.com) X-First1-MailScanner-Watermark: 1203965237.88318@g3aKsC9weT91NLlETIupjg Received: from mail1.firstbhph.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.firstbhph.com (8.14.2/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1IIlEak006364 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:47:14 -0500 From: "Dimitri Yioulos" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:47:14 -0500 Message-Id: <20080218183700.M56906@firstbhph.com> In-Reply-To: <200802181329.29457.john@jnielsen.net> References: <20080217180601.M82827@firstbhph.com> <200802172244.17932.john@jnielsen.net> <20080218172746.M31404@firstbhph.com> <200802181329.29457.john@jnielsen.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 24.91.150.12 (dyioulos) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Synonym: Copied by Synonym (http://www.modulo.ro/synonym) to: archive@firstbhph.com X-First1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact First 1 Financial Corporation for more information X-First1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-First1-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 1) X-MailScanner-From: dyioulos@firstbhph.com X-MailScanner-To: archive@firstbhph.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:47:29 -0000 On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:29:28 -0500, John Nielsen wrote > On Monday 18 February 2008 12:31:37 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:44:17 -0500, John Nielsen wrote > > > > > On Sunday 17 February 2008 01:06:28 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > > > > I'm not sure whether to have posted this here or on a VMware list; > > > > apologies if I'm in the wrong place. > > > > > > > > The other day, I did a fresh install of v. 7RC2 from the minimal CD > > > > on a CentOS 5.1 box running VMware server 1.0.4. I had previously > > > > successfully installed v. 6.2, and upgraded to 6.3 on the same box. > > > > All has gone well, except for the installation of VMware Tools. > > > > Getting the Tools tarball and extracting the requisite files was > > > > trivial. However, when I try to run Vmware-Config-Tools.pl, I get a > > > > message saying that the program must be run on a virtual machine. > > > > Well, it is. Is there a needed FBSD package I'm missing (the Tools > > > > install program doesn't complain about it). A known issue, or bug, > > > > maybe? Or is VMware support not yet enabled? Help would be > > > > greatly appreciated. > > > > > > I just went through almost the same thing, installing FreeBSD 7 under > > > VMware Workstation on Windows. The config-tools script has a > > > hard-coded version check which looks for libc.so.6 under /lib only. > > > Rather than mess with the script, I just hard-linked the library > > > from /usr/local/lib/compat (where it was installed by the compat6x > > > port). Seemed to work fine after that. You'll need to be careful not > > > to erase it if you ever run "make delete-old-libs", though. > > > > Thanks for the response! > > > > A symlink won't do for the above? > > Try it and see! I think I decided on a hard link since the script uses > something like "if [ -f /lib/libc.so.6 ]" so it's looking only for a > regular file and not a symlink. > > JN > > -- Hmm, when I try to hard-link ("ln /usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 libc.so.6"), I get "ln: ./libc.so.6: Cross-device link". But, when I do a symlink, which takes, I get "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "ld-linux.so.2" not found, required by "libc.so.6"" when i run vmware-config-tools.pl. So, I symlink ld-linux.so.2, and run tools. Then, I get "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Undefined symbol "__stdoutp" referenced from COPY relocation in /usr/local/sbin/vmware-checkvm". Arrgh. Any other ideas? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 19:01:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9FB16A41A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A05A13C442 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1559609fgg.35 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:01:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=TmiuY5ODTJRG1EO47nJOY+EGrkznqdeJuO+10tYpX00=; b=siYtRUIU7LWCYhX0pe2agzPPFt74mFhr30xITQ4rjP5PhodR/dH4q6IYYuTuPBg8jKlIF/V1Io/gTWOD3Xay7g6KGvaKOhbvebfue1YVh+9EWt3c+m1OAGgrorV/+iUJVC9cGh2ZYutyqTfs2Xk/uvo8MH7stqtGyt2CRGP7f9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Prat4vX4Elh1oV1NTJvUDXWBWnOp8/hDP73h1nrCTobT61Ue9RO8a4jZiZLxWGT95YpywzJnxN9xb6HMmqEOgESHl94aLtmzOW++h8ISnWTusFwoVMR/DvEh4u6LM8kQc1io83y1ucabPDw841VWy2QVmXAo5uxJUK11Xqi6m0c= Received: by 10.82.168.2 with SMTP id q2mr10736038bue.25.1203361260595; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.120.14 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:01:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:01:00 +0200 From: "Deian Popov" To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com In-Reply-To: <1203286349.7981.16.camel@new-host.l33tsdal3.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6.0.0.22.2.20080215160016.024cfc50@mail.computinginnovations.com> <1203124919.7130.215.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <1203282559.7981.14.camel@new-host.l33tsdal3.biz> <1203286349.7981.16.camel@new-host.l33tsdal3.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derek Ragona Subject: Re: freebsd dead after attempt on upgrade from 6.2 to 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:01:02 -0000 No strange IDE settings, it has been that way for years. Regards, Deian On Feb 18, 2008 12:12 AM, Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile) < bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 23:45 +0200, Deian Popov wrote: > > I will most definitely do, but this would happen after few days (don't > > have time to fix the system before that). The output of 6.3 and 7 is > > the same, so I will provide one from 6.3. Should I use > > http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html to file the report ? > > > > Be sure to include the output of: > > $ sudo pciconf -lv > > You checked your BIOS for strange IDE settings, rights? > > ~BAS > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 19:04:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9CD16A419 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juancr@dsa.es) Received: from llca513-a.servidoresdns.net (llca513-a.servidoresdns.net [217.76.128.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0185E13C45A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juancr@dsa.es) Received: from mail.dsa.es (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by llca513-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD9B110402F for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:44:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from 84.18.15.128 (SquirrelMail authenticated user faf352c) by mail.dsa.es with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:44:12 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3254.84.18.15.128.1203360252.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:44:12 -0000 (GMT) From: "DSA - JCR" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: NDIS and wifi doesnt work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:04:27 -0000 Hi all Freebsd 6.3 RC2 (DesktopBSD 1.6) Laptop: Samsung Q35 WIFI: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG ADSL with WIFI working In order to use the wifi included in this laptop i use NDIS with the MS Windows drivers and produced the file "w39n51_sys.ko". The MS driver has one INF and one SYS files and also one DLL files. I have used only the INF and SYS files. must I use the DLL file also? I copied to "/boot/modules" and in "/boot/loader.conf" put the line w39n51_sys_load="YES" as the handbook says, but this does not work, my laptop hungs at boot time. Then I tried to load manually the module kldload w39n51_sys.ko then ifconfig shows the ndis0 with NO carrier, and my laptop works fine. But I can not detect any WIFI with "ifconfig ndis0 scan" Maybe I am doing something wrong, what? Is there a driver for this wireless device? where? thanks in advance Juan Coruña Desarrollo de Software Atlantico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 19:05:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B3916A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADD013C461 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so606733nfb.33 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:05:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=ZRzu/zgF8K0e93CL2kiaS8+e0215J5INxiWpNfEq7gs=; b=nI+6RtElNiUQWsznwUP1nE7Vs9ZJmA6DtOdRh2l6npttoxQpVrnI5+INv7vC1MIectaEW+fhGJaFlOTQ8GY7V3e66AT3scval61zAMq2Eq2Mb9ELR7LL9+O/zid9f7RWpibjJejh+B8zkXxeQcS6myhC3g4SgpiJ46Kz8VKFrkQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=tGiAngiEFhdeiPlbGrWeynt5/OrNZWB8XugGYUjyUmrKof+3YGW338TkGUlOOZAG4OoLouqHAerZy2Prs+VRHgAWd5oQszt37eJoDhaNe2KqPFykMLj1JSFsp4///uVYYcN9dvMWCPxaRNRutUpXnUtjlOzQELrOzDZqN/5HRSg= Received: by 10.78.97.7 with SMTP id u7mr9717449hub.50.1203361538141; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.5 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:05:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802181105k41452f1br4322bcceb907923a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:05:38 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: UPS / USB / system reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:05:40 -0000 Hello, I am running apcupsd. Toady we had several power failures. One of them lasted longer than the UPS was able to sustain. So: Mon Feb 18 15:21:06 CET 2008 Power failure. Mon Feb 18 15:21:12 CET 2008 Running on UPS batteries. Mon Feb 18 16:40:19 CET 2008 Battery power exhausted. Mon Feb 18 16:40:19 CET 2008 Initiating system shutdown! Mon Feb 18 16:40:19 CET 2008 User logins prohibited Mon Feb 18 16:40:19 CET 2008 Attempting to kill the UPS power! Mon Feb 18 16:40:25 CET 2008 UPS will power off after 180 seconds ... Mon Feb 18 16:40:25 CET 2008 Please power off your UPS before rebooting your computer ... Mon Feb 18 16:40:57 CET 2008 apcupsd exiting, signal 15 Mon Feb 18 16:40:57 CET 2008 apcupsd shutdown succeeded First of all, I am not really sure why it says to power off UPS before reboot. It often happens that with power failuers there's no one around. Secondly, the system was unable to reboot, not sure but the culprit seems to be this entry in fstab: /dev/ad3s1d /backup ufs rw 2 2 ad3s1d is a USB hard drive. It is normally unmounted and I think it was unmounted while power failure occured. Why would it cause problem while system is resuming operation? Feb 18 16:40:25 lists apcupsd[493]: Please power off your UPS before rebooting your computer ... Feb 18 16:40:25 lists shutdown: halt by root: apcupsd initiated shutdown Feb 18 16:40:57 lists rc.shutdown: 30 second watchdog timeout expired. Shutdown terminated. Feb 18 16:40:57 lists init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc.shutdown terminated abnormally, going to single user mode Feb 18 16:40:57 lists syslogd: exiting on signal 15 The result was I had to come to the site and fsck, then comment out the /backup line in fstab. Only then the system was able to start. Otherwise it complained about not being able to find /backup or the like but I cannot now find the precise message in logs. Your advice is greatly appreciated! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 19:17:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91C516A418 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F3813C459 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1IJE4Mb012913; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:14:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1IJE0ps012910; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:14:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:14:00 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Zbigniew Szalbot In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0802181105k41452f1br4322bcceb907923a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080218201348.O12909@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <94136a2c0802181105k41452f1br4322bcceb907923a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: UPS / USB / system reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:17:11 -0000 > > /dev/ad3s1d /backup ufs rw 2 2 > > ad3s1d is a USB hard drive. It is normally unmounted and I think it so add noauto after rw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 19:19:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C63616A478 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7AE13C469 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so1268196mue.6 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:19:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=R0XJkeULW0A/jujNtyn2vtVVTzJzYTxVe5P1rufk1cI=; b=RIYXq7J9SHaprfZHzSFXjdWaUqCTzcrTmqRTeHWqoj/xsCCJAxDPt2N6cR0rQTe4t4gSlTRqijrV+aLl6aN3AEFV/cCn9HMgP8ouqqLXHAxZ/1M8oKDVrixy/IgCc4yqKIckwRMFLj3gWPE6rahH2GU4aVh+23zrY+7zHY86ov8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=InGVpH/P3R7bOnT2p/q6942nPOx68tKAremsl/sJJcRTqI9Tz/h0c/Q61tYSy0c1a2460zEvkLmR6TC5sR1OAC1XG0sajD8vKa44R3Ilc+pFjCU+++bvT9d7Qkn7970T/g1DXF5MJERlm8FUlwkDOuilp0SMo6pShbUU6ZuOnk4= Received: by 10.78.206.14 with SMTP id d14mr9749595hug.9.1203362381473; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.5 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:19:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802181119j565b20a8ldea1ba75ff000b56@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:19:41 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20080218201348.O12909@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <94136a2c0802181105k41452f1br4322bcceb907923a@mail.gmail.com> <20080218201348.O12909@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Subject: Re: UPS / USB / system reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:19:44 -0000 Hello, 2008/2/18, Wojciech Puchar : > > > > /dev/ad3s1d /backup ufs rw 2 2 > > > > ad3s1d is a USB hard drive. It is normally unmounted and I think it > > so add noauto after rw Thanks! A lot! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 20:33:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCB216A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robby57@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0A913C474 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robby57@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so1295247wri.3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:33:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=YgcRbsY143QvovsJaW/6YVq6z0sk4mrFqj+iTxexnoY=; b=IPiAL7Az8X/WUYbIb8toqSGavFOJZhs5oBJOzXndjASsGcveGVk9dYI9yU104KDZFscAf3qB4FDbPDdW50zEV/9bsedW6jhtI1zhJ9ho3PAQoLynaogtNsFowGl1iSKDiMkRTyinNidO1Oo254U7YxaCUeW7zvVUO0Gz6/SO5OU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Eo+claIB3EljNKJRg7Jj+/QIwLXVyvlWhjYLe0pouZprnwtuZ3yg2rlxIzu7PCvThIGl2KVXOZy4F1neqLdjIHqx3QYmCAUQkBkA3tOsUs8M48HLIbwn57veYBdWbG5c4K+H0rmzC/2kslMg8vl+M5bzEi5Jp5ajGk3IAl/xmq8= Received: by 10.142.148.7 with SMTP id v7mr4650400wfd.218.1203365268868; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.124.3 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:07:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:07:48 +0100 From: "Olivier Robert" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 6.3 as guest: vmware-config.pl problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:33:21 -0000 Hi, I try to install FreeBSD 6.3 64 bits in a Fedora VMware Workstation 6.0..2. I have done the install by choosing ALL + no extra packages (but bash). Xorg is 1.4.0 I can have a working X with vesa drivers. When running ./vmware-config-tools.pl, I get the following: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Stopping VMware Tools services in the virtual machine: Guest operating system daemon: done Guest memory manager: done Detected X.org version 0.0.0. No drivers for X.org version: 0.0.0. Do you want to change the display size that X starts with? (yes/no) [no] Starting VMware Tools services in the virtual machine: Switching to guest configuration: done Guest memory manager: done Guest operating system daemon: done The configuration of VMware Tools 6.0.2 build-59824 for FreeBSD for this running kernel completed successfully. You must restart your X session before any mouse or graphics changes take effect. You can now run VMware Tools by invoking the following command: "/usr/local/bin/vmware-toolbox" during an X server session. Enjoy, --the VMware team --------------------------------------------------------------------- It replaced the vesa driver in xorg.conf as it should do, but X wouldn't start anymore because the vmware module does not exist. I was expecting to see some compilation going on here to build the necessary stuff, but as it doesn't detect Xorg, it doesn't build the appropriate module (I guess) Anyone encountered this problem? Any help greatly appreciated. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 20:59:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7581316A563 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BFD13C44B for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [192.168.3.245] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1IKwQm4091524; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:58:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:58:26 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080217180601.M82827@firstbhph.com> <200802181329.29457.john@jnielsen.net> <20080218183700.M56906@firstbhph.com> In-Reply-To: <20080218183700.M56906@firstbhph.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802181558.27096.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Dimitri Yioulos Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:59:03 -0000 On Monday 18 February 2008 01:47:14 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:29:28 -0500, John Nielsen wrote > > > On Monday 18 February 2008 12:31:37 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:44:17 -0500, John Nielsen wrote > > > > > > > On Sunday 17 February 2008 01:06:28 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > > > > > I'm not sure whether to have posted this here or on a VMware > > > > > list; apologies if I'm in the wrong place. > > > > > > > > > > The other day, I did a fresh install of v. 7RC2 from the > > > > > minimal CD on a CentOS 5.1 box running VMware server 1.0.4. I > > > > > had previously successfully installed v. 6.2, and upgraded to > > > > > 6.3 on the same box. All has gone well, except for the > > > > > installation of VMware Tools. Getting the Tools tarball and > > > > > extracting the requisite files was trivial. However, when I try > > > > > to run Vmware-Config-Tools.pl, I get a message saying that the > > > > > program must be run on a virtual machine. Well, it is. Is > > > > > there a needed FBSD package I'm missing (the Tools install > > > > > program doesn't complain about it). A known issue, or bug, > > > > > maybe? Or is VMware support not yet enabled? Help would be > > > > > greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > I just went through almost the same thing, installing FreeBSD 7 > > > > under VMware Workstation on Windows. The config-tools script has > > > > a hard-coded version check which looks for libc.so.6 under /lib > > > > only. Rather than mess with the script, I just hard-linked the > > > > library from /usr/local/lib/compat (where it was installed by the > > > > compat6x port). Seemed to work fine after that. You'll need to be > > > > careful not to erase it if you ever run "make delete-old-libs", > > > > though. > > > > > > Thanks for the response! > > > > > > A symlink won't do for the above? > > > > Try it and see! I think I decided on a hard link since the script > > uses something like "if [ -f /lib/libc.so.6 ]" so it's looking only > > for a regular file and not a symlink. > > Hmm, when I try to hard-link ("ln /usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 > libc.so.6"), I get "ln: ./libc.so.6: Cross-device link". But, when I > do a symlink, which takes, I get "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared > object "ld-linux.so.2" not found, required by "libc.so.6"" when i run > vmware-config-tools.pl. So, I symlink ld-linux.so.2, and run tools. > Then, I get "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Undefined symbol "__stdoutp" > referenced from COPY relocation in /usr/local/sbin/vmware-checkvm". > Arrgh. Any other ideas? You have /usr on a different partition than / in your VM, so you can't do a hard link. I would just copy the file back to /lib and not worry about it. Linking in other random libraries will cause problems, as you've observed. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 21:05:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAEA16A418 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaco@videoafrica.co.za) Received: from ctb-mesg8.saix.net (ctb-mesg8.saix.net [196.25.240.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513C413C4D5 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaco@videoafrica.co.za) Received: from jacolaptop (dsl-243-173-209.telkomadsl.co.za [41.243.173.209]) by ctb-mesg8.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945912A76 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:29:23 +0200 (SAST) From: "Jaco le Roux" To: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:29:18 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c8726c$f105c220$d3114660$@co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AchyTccZfiL3MKMnR+GNEG/vdRJYpAAHrUwA Content-Language: en-za x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AVuA A1yt BSBt CO78 CuG7 C+5M D9o0 EkUK HrDF H7Iy InlO JSTX Kdbq KoAw Lj4Q MIW0; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {9F501694-80E1-4645-A0FC-276C85959276}; agBhAGMAbwBAAHYAaQBkAGUAbwBhAGYAcgBpAGMAYQAuAGMAbwAuAHoAYQA=; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:29:10 GMT; UwB1AHAAcABvAHIAdAAgAGYAbwByACAAQQBzAHUAcwAgAFAANABTADgAMAAwAEQALQBFAA== x-cr-puzzleid: {9F501694-80E1-4645-A0FC-276C85959276} Subject: Support for Asus P4S800D-E X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:05:27 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.3 on a system with a Asus P4S800D-E motherboard. I believe it uses the SiS 955TX chipset to control the hard disks. When I enter the sysinstall utility to do a Standard Install, sysinstall does not recognise my hard disk. This is because the SATA hard drive runs off its SATA controller and is not normally seen by OS's unless 3rd party software/drivers is loaded. There is no FreeBSD support on the SiS website, however I found another thread: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2004-06/2737.html in which the guy clearly states he got the same motherboard working in FreeBSD. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'll appreciate any help, thanks. PS: I'm using MS outlook to write this message, and tried to format everything as plain text. If it still comes out whack on UNIX systems, please advise me and I'll try something better next time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 21:18:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3076616A473 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D4D13C45B for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [192.168.3.245] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1ILIqm4001350; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:18:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:18:52 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802181618.52525.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Olivier Robert Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.3 as guest: vmware-config.pl problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:18:53 -0000 On Monday 18 February 2008 03:07:48 pm Olivier Robert wrote: > I try to install FreeBSD 6.3 64 bits in a Fedora VMware Workstation > 6.0..2. I have done the install by choosing ALL + no extra packages > (but bash). > > Xorg is 1.4.0 > I can have a working X with vesa drivers. > > When running ./vmware-config-tools.pl, I get the following: > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Stopping VMware Tools services in the virtual machine: > Guest operating system daemon: > done Guest memory manager: > done > > > Detected X.org version 0.0.0. > > > No drivers for X.org version: 0.0.0. > > It replaced the vesa driver in xorg.conf as it should do, but X > wouldn't start anymore because the vmware module does not exist. > I was expecting to see some compilation going on here to build the > necessary stuff, but as it doesn't detect Xorg, it doesn't build the > appropriate module (I guess) > > Anyone encountered this problem? > Any help greatly appreciated. The script is too old to know what to do with a modular X.org so the version detection breaks. Fortunately, X.org ships with the vmware (video) and vmmouse (input) drivers these days. If they are not installed in your VM then you can install them by hand from ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware and ports/x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse respectively. Alternatively you can do something like "cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers-xorg-drivers && make config", select the vm drivers from the list, and then upgrade the xorg-drivers port ("portupgrade -f xorg-drivers" if you use portupgrade). You can install and use these drivers without ever installing the VMware tools, although the guestd and memctl components of the tools are useful. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 21:42:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD75316A4FB for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBA013C46B for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) X-Sent-To: Received: from [192.168.2.5] (c-71-238-82-210.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [71.238.82.210]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1ILg1Sw053382 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:42:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) From: Mark Moellering Organization: Psyberation To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:41:54 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802181641.54562.mark@msen.com> Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=71.238.82.210; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=71.238.82.210; helo=[192.168.2.5] X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: shell.msen.com; Sender-ip: 71.238.82.210; Sender-helo: [192.168.2.5]; ) Subject: compiling 32 bit port on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark@msen.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:42:03 -0000 Is there a way I can specify a port to be compiled in 32 bit mode on an amd64 installation? I have compat_ia32 in kernel. Thanks Mark Moellering From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 21:53:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182D716A41A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB94513C4D3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) X-Sent-To: Received: from [192.168.2.5] (c-71-238-82-210.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [71.238.82.210]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1ILr2Mk055713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:53:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) From: Mark Moellering Organization: Psyberation To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:52:54 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802181652.55054.mark@msen.com> Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=71.238.82.210; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=71.238.82.210; helo=[192.168.2.5] X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: shell.msen.com; Sender-ip: 71.238.82.210; Sender-helo: [192.168.2.5]; ) Subject: compiling 32 bit port on amd64 - Rephrase X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark@msen.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:53:04 -0000 Is there a way to compile the 32 bit version (i386) of a port on an amd64 installation? I am running FreeBSD 7.0 RC2 amd64 Thanks Mark Moellering From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 22:02:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7BE16A419 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6338813C4F4 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so2278616pyb.10 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:02:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hl2C8XgGLEOKopPS+rj3cmoI3yBem8Sf/TXkYYImqIs=; b=bVurekeJM+dAMufuNLLmTQqiU3FnN6y6Mx/M6XHpWsIRF9ijpoK48mMHaY5dWkcHdCV/UOtxJQVh11NQy7Vdr/MGu97sFo8hO9HpSnyYla9YqUyf58fjKErNlLlPq+A5R9dBHmTaHri9jVdkfvvCAEp32EjuFd/Js4T79Q/ptt8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CTNGl0zbAMd2/l+H5e/XYWRvhz2FOo/bJp71/Taz7Ph1qh4HwW4V3Gt24y22T/JbfzLftyE57NUXJn3oHTj9qorweLv4h2xsNisRGAqujXXv1wKbt8Z/3MNQ8D7opgEyLeQl7mot7QtFopO+9uMov8tVv+4fK1s7Y76gVK3pgWI= Received: by 10.65.52.1 with SMTP id e1mr11631856qbk.78.1203372152360; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.209.16 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:02:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <82f916c90802181402o7bf20286j657d7cd7e8cec38d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:02:32 +0000 From: "Kemian Dang" To: "DSA - JCR" In-Reply-To: <3254.84.18.15.128.1203360252.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3254.84.18.15.128.1203360252.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NDIS and wifi doesnt work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:02:33 -0000 I can not get response from "ifconfig ndis0 up scan", neither. But as I know my wireless network's ssid, I just "ifconfig ndis0 ssid xxx", which make the status change to "associate" and "dhclient ndis0" can get IP from dhcp. Kemian On 18/02/2008, DSA - JCR wrote: > Hi all > > Freebsd 6.3 RC2 (DesktopBSD 1.6) > Laptop: Samsung Q35 > WIFI: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG > ADSL with WIFI working > > > In order to use the wifi included in this laptop i use NDIS with the MS > Windows drivers and produced the file "w39n51_sys.ko". The MS driver has > one INF and one SYS files and also one DLL files. I have used only the IN= F > and SYS files. must I use the DLL file also? > > I copied to "/boot/modules" and in "/boot/loader.conf" put the line > > w39n51_sys_load=3D"YES" > > as the handbook says, but this does not work, my laptop hungs at boot tim= e. > > Then I tried to load manually the module > > kldload w39n51_sys.ko > > then ifconfig shows the ndis0 with NO carrier, and my laptop works fine. > But I can not detect any WIFI with "ifconfig ndis0 scan" > > Maybe I am doing something wrong, what? > > Is there a driver for this wireless device? where? > > > > thanks in advance > > Juan Coru=F1a > Desarrollo de Software Atlantico > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 22:03:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A60316A46E for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dyioulos@firstbhph.com) Received: from mail1.firstbhph.com (mail1.firstbhph.com [67.108.218.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3414513C506 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dyioulos@firstbhph.com) X-First1-MailScanner-Watermark: 1203976981.01338@v7f1A0nYfv7kACFvU6SANw Received: from mail1.firstbhph.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.firstbhph.com (8.14.2/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1IM2xXl031819 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:02:59 -0500 From: "Dimitri Yioulos" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:02:59 -0500 Message-Id: <20080218215649.M25552@firstbhph.com> In-Reply-To: <200802181558.27096.lists@jnielsen.net> References: <20080217180601.M82827@firstbhph.com> <200802181329.29457.john@jnielsen.net> <20080218183700.M56906@firstbhph.com> <200802181558.27096.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 24.91.150.12 (dyioulos) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Synonym: Copied by Synonym (http://www.modulo.ro/synonym) to: archive@firstbhph.com X-First1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact First 1 Financial Corporation for more information X-First1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-First1-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 1) X-MailScanner-From: dyioulos@firstbhph.com X-MailScanner-To: archive@firstbhph.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7RC2 and VMware tools X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:03:12 -0000 On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:58:26 -0500, John Nielsen wrote > On Monday 18 February 2008 01:47:14 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:29:28 -0500, John Nielsen wrote > > > > > On Monday 18 February 2008 12:31:37 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > > > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:44:17 -0500, John Nielsen wrote > > > > > > > > > On Sunday 17 February 2008 01:06:28 pm Dimitri Yioulos wrote: > > > > > > I'm not sure whether to have posted this here or on a VMware > > > > > > list; apologies if I'm in the wrong place. > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day, I did a fresh install of v. 7RC2 from the > > > > > > minimal CD on a CentOS 5.1 box running VMware server 1.0.4. I > > > > > > had previously successfully installed v. 6.2, and upgraded to > > > > > > 6.3 on the same box. All has gone well, except for the > > > > > > installation of VMware Tools. Getting the Tools tarball and > > > > > > extracting the requisite files was trivial. However, when I try > > > > > > to run Vmware-Config-Tools.pl, I get a message saying that the > > > > > > program must be run on a virtual machine. Well, it is. Is > > > > > > there a needed FBSD package I'm missing (the Tools install > > > > > > program doesn't complain about it). A known issue, or bug, > > > > > > maybe? Or is VMware support not yet enabled? Help would be > > > > > > greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > I just went through almost the same thing, installing FreeBSD 7 > > > > > under VMware Workstation on Windows. The config-tools script has > > > > > a hard-coded version check which looks for libc.so.6 under /lib > > > > > only. Rather than mess with the script, I just hard-linked the > > > > > library from /usr/local/lib/compat (where it was installed by the > > > > > compat6x port). Seemed to work fine after that. You'll need to be > > > > > careful not to erase it if you ever run "make delete-old-libs", > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the response! > > > > > > > > A symlink won't do for the above? > > > > > > Try it and see! I think I decided on a hard link since the script > > > uses something like "if [ -f /lib/libc.so.6 ]" so it's looking only > > > for a regular file and not a symlink. > > > > Hmm, when I try to hard-link ("ln /usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 > > libc.so.6"), I get "ln: ./libc.so.6: Cross-device link". But, when I > > do a symlink, which takes, I get "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared > > object "ld-linux.so.2" not found, required by "libc.so.6"" when i run > > vmware-config-tools.pl. So, I symlink ld-linux.so.2, and run tools. > > Then, I get "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Undefined symbol "__stdoutp" > > referenced from COPY relocation in /usr/local/sbin/vmware-checkvm". > > Arrgh. Any other ideas? > > You have /usr on a different partition than / in your VM, so you can't do > a hard link. I would just copy the file back to /lib and not worry about > it. Linking in other random libraries will cause problems, as you've > observed. > > JN If I copy libc.so.6 to /lib, then tools complains about ld-linux.so.2. If I copy ld-linux.so.2, it then complains about "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Undefined symbol "__stdoutp" referenced from COPY relocation in /usr/local/sbin/vmware-checkvm". This is pretty much the same as if I symlink the two files. Even though I'm a "glass half-full" guy, this is beginning to look dire (but it's the worst thing to happen to me, I'm sure I'll live). Still, it would be nice to get this working. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 22:27:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE3016A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:27:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069FC13C46A for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:27:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1IMOMQw013560; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:24:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1IMOGQS013557; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:24:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:24:16 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mark Moellering In-Reply-To: <200802181652.55054.mark@msen.com> Message-ID: <20080218232122.C13453@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200802181652.55054.mark@msen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compiling 32 bit port on amd64 - Rephrase X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:27:40 -0000 > Is there a way to compile the 32 bit version (i386) of a port on an amd64 > installation? I am running FreeBSD 7.0 RC2 amd64 very stupid (i don't know better) way but will work. unpack all freebsd disto to say /i386, use install.sh from installation CD this way DESTDIR=/i386 ./install.sh in every dir (exclude sys and sources). unpack port directories in /i386/usr/ports (if you use portsnap, portsnap -d /i386/usr/ports extract) make empty /i386/etc/fstab cp /etc/resolv.conf /i386/etc/resolv.conf mount_devfs devfs /i386/dev cd /i386 chroot . bin/your_favourite_shell cd /usr/ports compile as usual. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 22:35:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C4B16A420 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:35:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb7:ef56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1056B13C45B for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from lux.student.utwente.nl (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.170.81]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1IMYrnr030104; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:34:53 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, mark@msen.com Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:34:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200802181652.55054.mark@msen.com> In-Reply-To: <200802181652.55054.mark@msen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802182334.52906.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Subject: Re: compiling 32 bit port on amd64 - Rephrase X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:35:01 -0000 On Monday 18 February 2008, Mark Moellering wrote: > Is there a way to compile the 32 bit version (i386) of a port on an amd64 > installation? I am running FreeBSD 7.0 RC2 amd64 > > Thanks > > Mark Moellering The only way I know of is to create a 32bit jail/chroot and compile the port from withing the jail. To create such a jail or chroot follow the instructions from the jail(8) manpage, but add TARGET_ARCH=i386 to make's command line. -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 23:03:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BDE16A419 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C723A13C4F4 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1IN3sgA075906 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:03:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:03:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:03:54 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: is there an easier way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:03:59 -0000 To my fellow C nerds, It's been a great manny years since I wrote this appended snippet. Now I can't remember why (of if ) I need all the strcpy() calls. Is there a simpler, more logical way of printing a bunch of string by snipping off the left-most? In short,, can anyone 'splain why strtok needs all this? tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org #include #include main() { char *bp, buf[512], *tok, tstr[512]; static char *delim=" ", s1[256]="abc def ghi jkl mno."; bp = strcpy(buf, tstr); strcpy(bp, s1); /* bp filled with writable mem works like this, too */ while ((tok = strtok(bp, delim)) != NULL) { bp = NULL; printf("tok = [%s]\n", tok); } } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 23:19:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882E816A419 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:19:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (marcuscom-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B31513C458 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:19:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1INJA40010592; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:19:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> References: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-LIi0OgAAiJXzGTs5nffo" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:19:07 -0500 Message-Id: <1203376747.32200.21.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there an easier way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:19:11 -0000 --=-LIi0OgAAiJXzGTs5nffo Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-uqBPJIhpwgUmcjToi5jn" --=-uqBPJIhpwgUmcjToi5jn Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 15:03 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > To my fellow C nerds, >=20 > It's been a great manny years since I wrote this appended > snippet. Now I can't remember why (of if ) I need all the > strcpy() calls. Is there a simpler, more logical way of=20 > printing a bunch of string by snipping off the left-most? >=20 > In short,, can anyone 'splain why strtok needs all this? Here are two examples, one with dynamically allocated memory, and one with static memory. You need the copy so that you allocate writable space for strtok() to fill in the NUL bytes. I imagine there are even better/easier ways, but both of these work okay. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-uqBPJIhpwgUmcjToi5jn-- --=-LIi0OgAAiJXzGTs5nffo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAke6EmcACgkQb2iPiv4Uz4cLhwCdFBIBWFZ3cQJQ4tPPXZvccC3N FT4AnjBH/DS6qXdi6uSK93LqUyt4rF8o =LwIz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-LIi0OgAAiJXzGTs5nffo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 23:20:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E01E16A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (penna-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173F513C46B for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1INKvTh010616; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:20:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <1203376747.32200.21.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> References: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> <1203376747.32200.21.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-lXjXtbXt6hp/Mu7osSjH" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:20:55 -0500 Message-Id: <1203376855.32200.23.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there an easier way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:20:58 -0000 --=-lXjXtbXt6hp/Mu7osSjH Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 18:19 -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 15:03 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > To my fellow C nerds, > >=20 > > It's been a great manny years since I wrote this appended > > snippet. Now I can't remember why (of if ) I need all the > > strcpy() calls. Is there a simpler, more logical way of=20 > > printing a bunch of string by snipping off the left-most? > >=20 > > In short,, can anyone 'splain why strtok needs all this? >=20 > Here are two examples, one with dynamically allocated memory, and one > with static memory. You need the copy so that you allocate writable > space for strtok() to fill in the NUL bytes. I imagine there are even > better/easier ways, but both of these work okay. Posted to http://www.marcuscom.com/downloads/strtokeg.c as the attachment didn't make it. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-lXjXtbXt6hp/Mu7osSjH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAke6EtYACgkQb2iPiv4Uz4cmTwCglFtzFUTT0f+9ZsOpKrUsNoGX ep0An0K+yDBn0rmwWmAq35upoG0pkxWn =b8nv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-lXjXtbXt6hp/Mu7osSjH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 23:23:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7644E16A419 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3879013C474 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1INNWu9016996 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:23:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <47BA1375.2010108@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:23:33 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there an easier way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:23:39 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > To my fellow C nerds, > > It's been a great manny years since I wrote this appended > snippet. Now I can't remember why (of if ) I need all the > strcpy() calls. Is there a simpler, more logical way of > printing a bunch of string by snipping off the left-most? > > In short,, can anyone 'splain why strtok needs all this? > > tia, > > gary > > I don't think you need the copies. This works just as well: #include #include main() { char *bp, *tok; char *delim=" ", s1[256]="abc def ghi jkl mno."; bp = s1; /* Now both point to the literal string to be tokenized */ while ((tok = strtok(bp, delim)) != NULL) { bp = NULL; printf("tok = [%s]\n", tok); } } -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 23:30:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FDC16A421 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065E913C4CE for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1INU0lI017144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:30:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <47BA14F8.4060109@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:30:00 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> <47BA1375.2010108@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <47BA1375.2010108@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there an easier way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:30:09 -0000 Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: >> To my fellow C nerds, >> >> It's been a great manny years since I wrote this appended >> snippet. Now I can't remember why (of if ) I need all the >> strcpy() calls. Is there a simpler, more logical way of >> printing a bunch of string by snipping off the left-most? >> >> In short,, can anyone 'splain why strtok needs all this? >> >> tia, >> >> gary >> >> > > I don't think you need the copies. This works just as well: > > #include > #include > > main() > { > char *bp, *tok; > char *delim=" ", s1[256]="abc def ghi jkl mno."; > > bp = s1; /* Now both point to the literal string to be tokenized */ > > while ((tok = strtok(bp, delim)) != NULL) > { > bp = NULL; > printf("tok = [%s]\n", tok); > } > } > Ooops ... wasn't paying attention. While the printed output is the same, doing it this way is destructive to the original s1 string - which may matter (or not)... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 23:41:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9E516A417 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C4F13C459 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1INfg72017360 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:41:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <47BA17B6.20906@tundraware.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:41:42 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tundra@tundraware.com References: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> <47BA1375.2010108@tundraware.com> <47BA14F8.4060109@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <47BA14F8.4060109@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there an easier way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:41:46 -0000 Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> Gary Kline wrote: >>> To my fellow C nerds, >>> >>> It's been a great manny years since I wrote this appended >>> snippet. Now I can't remember why (of if ) I need all the >>> strcpy() calls. Is there a simpler, more logical way of >>> printing a bunch of string by snipping off the left-most? >>> >>> In short,, can anyone 'splain why strtok needs all this? >>> >>> tia, >>> >>> gary >>> >>> >> >> I don't think you need the copies. This works just as well: >> >> #include >> #include >> >> main() >> { >> char *bp, *tok; >> char *delim=" ", s1[256]="abc def ghi jkl mno."; >> >> bp = s1; /* Now both point to the literal string to be tokenized */ >> >> while ((tok = strtok(bp, delim)) != NULL) >> { >> bp = NULL; >> printf("tok = [%s]\n", tok); >> } >> } >> > > > Ooops ... wasn't paying attention. While the printed output is the > same, doing > it this way is destructive to the original s1 string - which may matter > (or not)... So, to protect the original string, you do have to copy the original string to a new buffer: #include #include main() { char *bp, *tok, buf[256]; const char *delim=" ", s1[256]="abc def ghi jkl mno."; bp = strcpy(buf, s1); while ((tok = strtok(bp, delim)) != NULL) { bp = NULL; printf("tok = [%s]\n", tok); } } So, at least we eliminated the first strcpy in your code: char *bp, buf[512], *tok, tstr[512]; static char *delim=" ", s1[256]="abc def ghi jkl mno."; bp = strcpy(buf, tstr); This accomplishes nothing and may not even be safe - strcpy() copies until it hits \0. I do not recall if the declaration of tstr[512] intializes it to \0. If not, then the strcpy() is going to keep running until it finds one, overwriting the end of buf[] and probably causing core dumps or other evil... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 23:54:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1881416A420 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:54:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan.h.zab@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A123D13C458 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan.h.zab@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so1183026uge.37 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:54:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H+JCIRfCwYf8poUSvflQFIZSNAxKWzz50N+nH5iBuHM=; b=yIbLvzVhze7sTkDpusZ+h903JfBD/nr/dYbh/VTLS28m8anAynkg0cZ8cwomDPtDvY4kMVDIqxGm/sd3TBZUQeNSfZWxhagfMPInsNzqQzcpNscPWMUKOdlM3PAirwUvu+5Or3cvqZdPz6CkfoL9llcLWcHi7tV45vVtrNKyBCE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CBH/Gx2lShF+ZMy1Y3fv0OHJPWorDP561KMsTylmyyIJBkIbJOtcxEu05rwfoKJLFlUzcgiAOHzAVN8e7BI6NaW23K6x+KuuoIjB5HE4jnRR/TdvVl6XnUml+azT2z+MqNjJiEh/E0QGI/DWmRwhNHoiWQpsKLjOcvDFIWQ9dFE= Received: by 10.67.92.4 with SMTP id u4mr3773581ugl.85.1203377165908; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:26:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ( [91.4.110.232]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm14981631fkt.14.2008.02.18.15.26.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:26:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:26:00 +0100 From: Jan-Hendrik Zab To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219002600.05d87274@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.12.8; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:54:30 -0000 On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:21:44 +0000 Da Rock wrote: Hey, > I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that > will work with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server, > but they are not going to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means > evolution can't use it, and evolution won't budge either- so a > mexican stand-off and I'm caught in the middle (probably with others). I'm currently looking for a caldav/calendar server myself. There are actually quite a few, but I guess a lot won't met your specific requirements. To name a few: caldav: - bedework - davical - zimbra - cosmo webdav: - horde - phpcalendar Bedework seems to be a nice choice, I haven't found a way to integrate tomcat into LDAP yet. But I'm not familiar with tomcat, so that's to be expected. Davical doesn't seem to care about the access rights I configured in the web interface, a bug I guess. > So that brings me back to the Apache module under construction > (mod_caldav), but nothing seems to be happening with it. I've > requested support on the forum their at sourceforge, but I have had > no response for over a week, and no responses have been issued since > april 2006. I didn't know that such a module existed, I'll look into it! :) Jan-Hendrik Zab From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 00:10:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5768816A473 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:10:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F66113C442 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so1405255wri.3 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:10:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=ojSuWTz+oXK8UTtE9YxbcNOuRn8jSiupSapYLFDlgBc=; b=gqG7w98/7fKhp4l9MkPyvSInthiIBFpVqjUwvsyhqAdXrug9QG8j3yaDnbPm4xVeo2BB38LawxRtJGko2BBxofwVR9jQf2f2jjPeU5Kf8+nBeAVc2iw0kFWNfXd2SWuqlv9A4psuJelDTUZ+KMxxnAe6fxHMrgAhb9y4WaPaxN4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=j6pKKrju5+3/BjhreJxESDyhQrsc56h3tA7PeE88l6PR/6cjiVoTH5HblLELApFxKODBAWvKKm9n4X4Xn1mgsk5vMi1pwe6pK/4xE0GouaHYWfWkvcHqq61CotiMInNpSMWCAVaP6Jf5grZnKr6WBX67dFJ0Te1pgYPhk/2Lp7Y= Received: by 10.151.8.8 with SMTP id l8mr2246515ybi.123.1203379800071; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.85.17 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:10:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <14989d6e0802181610l7c4c7a91u44f597679d60ec87@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:10:00 +0000 From: "Christian Walther" To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Building Xorg as 32 Bit binaries on 64 Bit system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:10:02 -0000 Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 7 on an Athlon64 based machine with a 64 bit kernel. The machine is supposed to be a server (at home) so there's basically no Xorg involved. Now I want to monitor what the system is doing and I decided to install sysutils/conky from ports. The problem is that conky crashes with a "BadDrawable error". I searched the net for some time and found evidence that conky might not work in 64 bit mode. I tried to recompile it - the entire Xorg packages - but every time I end up having 64 bit binaries. I have CPUTYPE and CFLAGS commented out in /etc/make.conf, but the problem seems to arise from the configure scripts used by Xorg. For example during "make install clean" on xproto configure states: checking build system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd7.0 checking host system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd7.0 checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking for amd64-portbld-freebsd7.0-gcc... cc I wonder if it's possible to somehow override the build system type information? Christian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 00:14:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1874116A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB9213C442 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:14:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m1J0E0ma013713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:14:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m1J0E0Xe013712; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:14:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA13671; Mon, 18 Feb 08 16:11:19 PST Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:06:31 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Message-Id: <47ba1d87.uMROZvMpGo8ssjFs%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <47b92e38.PPjllqvtMAVuJE1V%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20080218091206.M1189@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080218091206.M1189@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting a read-only md FS as read-only X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:14:02 -0000 > does mount_ext2fs support readonly at all? The manpage implies that it does: The options are as follows: -o Options are specified with a -o flag followed by a comma sepa- rated string of options. See the mount(8) man page for possible options and their meanings. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 00:17:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E73B16A420 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjenkins@centurygaming.biz) Received: from cns1.transaria.net (cns1.transaria.net [IPv6:2001:1940:1:1::24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D0913C447 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjenkins@centurygaming.biz) Received: from RyanPC ([69.51.117.66]) by cns1.transaria.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m1J0Hus6020299 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:17:56 GMT From: "Ryan Jenkins" To: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:20:12 -0700 Message-ID: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01C87252.85237F80" X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Importance: Low Thread-Index: AchyjTFJD/W7z9suQrWJ9OaUrEWnqA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:17:59 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C87252.85237F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD Operating System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. Right now I am having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture that can make a system that uses FreeBSD. I currently have found a product from MPC or Micron/Gateway that creates systems with no Operating System, but my programmers are having a hard time with getting the software loaded on the system. 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The network on which my servers reside does not have direct internet connectivity. Is it possible to use freebsd-update through a http proxy on a Linux box that does have the connectivity? 2. My servers have their kernels compiled with the SMP Kernel and Polling support only. Can I use freebsd-update with these systems or are they too far removed from GENERIC kernel. Will using freebsd-update in such a case trash system, leave it unaffected or update it, but to a GENERIC version of the errata branch selected? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Freebsd-update-questions-tp15550808p15550808.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 00:28:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AAFD16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE1B13C448 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1J0GPv0085796 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:16:30 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080219002600.05d87274@googlemail.com> References: <20080219002600.05d87274@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:16:18 +1000 Message-Id: <1203380178.6470.13.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.578, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.22, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:28:31 -0000 On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 00:26 +0100, Jan-Hendrik Zab wrote: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:21:44 +0000 > Da Rock wrote: > > Hey, > > I've brought this up before, I know, but I need a caldav server that > > will work with evolution. I've checked out Darwin Calendar Server, > > but they are not going to solve an issue (as of 2006) that means > > evolution can't use it, and evolution won't budge either- so a > > mexican stand-off and I'm caught in the middle (probably with others). > > I'm currently looking for a caldav/calendar server myself. There are > actually quite a few, but I guess a lot won't met your specific > requirements. To name a few: > > caldav: > - bedework > - davical > - zimbra > - cosmo > > webdav: > - horde > - phpcalendar > > Bedework seems to be a nice choice, I haven't found a way to integrate > tomcat into LDAP yet. But I'm not familiar with tomcat, so that's to be > expected. Davical doesn't seem to care about the access rights I > configured in the web interface, a bug I guess. > > > So that brings me back to the Apache module under construction > > (mod_caldav), but nothing seems to be happening with it. I've > > requested support on the forum their at sourceforge, but I have had > > no response for over a week, and no responses have been issued since > > april 2006. > > I didn't know that such a module existed, I'll look into it! :) > > Jan-Hendrik Zab I'm currently looking into bedework now- it seems ideal, but getting tomcat to work with apache is becoming a challenge. I'm using mod_jk but it doesn't appear to be cooperating yet. What is your experience in building apache modules? The problem is mainly in the mod_dav_acl module which needs xattr.h. I'm wondering if we can "borrow" the headers from another source. I haven't checked zimbra or cosmo properly yet, but at first glance it appeared they didn't quite have what I wanted. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 00:31:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7816716A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C4413C458 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JRGOm-0006uX-33 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:31:52 -0800 Message-ID: <15550810.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:31:52 -0800 (PST) From: yar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: owensr57@gmail.com Subject: Freebsd-update questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:31:52 -0000 1. The network on which my servers reside does not have direct internet connectivity. Is it possible to use freebsd-update through a http proxy on a Linux box that does have the connectivity? 2. My servers have their kernels compiled with the SMP Kernel and Polling support only. Can I use freebsd-update with these systems or are they too far removed from GENERIC kernel. Will using freebsd-update in such a case trash system, leave it unaffected or update it, but to a GENERIC version of the errata branch selected? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Freebsd-update-questions-tp15550810p15550810.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 00:45:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A75816A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-out-04.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1D713C45E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-04.forthnet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1J0j66W032110; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:45:06 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (mx-in-05.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.32]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m1J0j5ux028317; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:45:05 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl48-14.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.175.14]) by MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1J0j3fB020652; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:45:05 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; sender-id=neutral Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1J0j3d5005545; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:45:03 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m1J0iwEv005541; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:44:58 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:44:58 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080219004458.GC5362@kobe.laptop> References: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is there an easier way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:45:09 -0000 On 2008-02-18 15:03, Gary Kline wrote: > > To my fellow C nerds, > > It's been a great manny years since I wrote this appended > snippet. Now I can't remember why (of if ) I need all the > strcpy() calls. Is there a simpler, more logical way of > printing a bunch of string by snipping off the left-most? > > In short,, can anyone 'splain why strtok needs all this? > #include > #include > > main() > { > char *bp, buf[512], *tok, tstr[512]; > static char *delim=" ", s1[256]="abc def ghi jkl mno."; > > bp = strcpy(buf, tstr); > strcpy(bp, s1); /* bp filled with writable mem works like this, too */ > while ((tok = strtok(bp, delim)) != NULL) > { > bp = NULL; > printf("tok = [%s]\n", tok); > } > } I don't know about `simpler', but the hardcoded `magic' numbers above, like 256 and 512, make me nervous. Another point which is worth noting is that you don't need to copy the string at all, for one thing. If you have a string defined like this: const char *s = "hello world"; Then you can use a second pointer to point somewhere within that string and print from that point: const char *point = s + 7; printf("%s\n", point); So if you want to strip the first 'word' from a C string, you can do this in the following steps: [0] Get the initial string in your s1[] buffer, i.e.: const char s1[] = "abc def ghi jkl mno."; Note that if you use `s1[]' to define the string, the compiler is smart enough to grab enough space for it. This way you don't need all the `magic' numbers, like 256 and 512 in the original code. [1] Find the first whitespace character in the string, using strcspn() to match everything *except* a whitespace: const char *p; size_t num_chars; num_chars = strcspn(s1, " \t"); p = s1 + num_chars; [2] If the character pointed at by the new value of `p' is the terminating '\0' character of the original string, you are done; the original string contains a single word, so you can skip it entirely. if (*p == '\0') { printf("\n"); return; } [3] Now you can use strspn(), which is the *inverse* operation, to skip the whitespace characters you just found: num_chars = strspn(p, " \t"); p += num_chars; [4] If the character pointed at by the new value of `p' is the terminating '\0' character of the original string, then you hit the end of the string again, so there is no `second' word; you can move on again: if (*p == '\0') { printf("\n"); return; } [5] If you are still around, then `p' now points right at the beginning of the second word. printf("%s\n", p); return; A sample function which returns a pointer to the second word of the string you pass to it, could be something like this: #include #include #define SPACECHARS " \t" char * secondword(char *s) { size_t num_chars; char *p; if (s == NULL) return NULL; /* * Skip any non-whitespace chars first. */ num_chars = strcspn(s, SPACECHARS); p = s + num_chars; if (*p == '\0') return p; /* * Then skip whitespace, until we hit the end of the * string, or we find the second word. */ num_chars = strspn(p, SPACECHARS); p += num_chars; /* * Even if we just hit '\0' or a non-space, we can * simply return whatever our next match character is. * It's either going to end up being the start of an * empty string, or the second word we wanted to find. */ return p; } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 00:47:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D7816A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973A713C45D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-av-04.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1J0kx5G015573; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:46:59 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (mx-in-05.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.32]) by mx-av-04.forthnet.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m1J0kx1i029149; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:46:59 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl48-14.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.175.14]) by MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1J0kucN024002; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:46:59 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; sender-id=neutral Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1J0ktKX005558; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:46:55 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m1J0kqv9005557; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:46:52 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:46:52 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <20080219004652.GD5362@kobe.laptop> References: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> <47BA1375.2010108@tundraware.com> <47BA14F8.4060109@tundraware.com> <47BA17B6.20906@tundraware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47BA17B6.20906@tundraware.com> Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is there an easier way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:47:02 -0000 On 2008-02-18 17:41, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> Ooops ... wasn't paying attention. While the printed output is the >> same, doing it this way is destructive to the original s1 string - >> which may matter (or not)... > > So, to protect the original string, you do have to copy the original > string to a new buffer: ... or use strcspn() and strspn() which are non-destructive (see my other post in the same thread about an example). I tend to prefer avoiding strtok() if possible, precisely because of its destructive behavior. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 00:48:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BF516A46B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D47113C46B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 11827 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 00:48:40 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 19 Feb 2008 00:48:37 -0000 Message-ID: <47BA275C.7030006@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:48:28 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz References: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> In-Reply-To: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:48:43 -0000 Hi, Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, HP, IBM, Lenovo, Toshiba plus all the PC built around standard components will do. If you would be a bit more specific about price, speed and function of the machine, we could help you better. You might will have problems getting certain machines without operating system. Erich Ryan Jenkins wrote: > Hello, > > I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD Operating > System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. Right now I am > having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture that can make a system > that uses FreeBSD. I currently have found a product from MPC or > Micron/Gateway that creates systems with no Operating System, but my > programmers are having a hard time with getting the software loaded on the > system. Can you please help me find a supplier that builds Desktop or > All-in-One computers that will operate FreeBSD. > > > > Ryan Jenkins > > P.O. Box 21138 > P: 406 896-9900 > F: 406 896-0045 > C: 406 208-8193 > Email: > rjenkins@centurygaming.biz > > > > Confidentiality Statement: > This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. > Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), > you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail message or any > information contained in the message. If you have received this e-mail > message in error, please advise the sender by replying to this message or by > telephone and then promptly delete it. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 00:57:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B108216A420 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5574B13C465 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1J0sNmK030664 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:54:25 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:54:18 +1000 Message-Id: <1203382458.6470.32.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.549, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.25, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Configuring mod_jk for Apache and Tomcat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:57:14 -0000 I'm trying to setup a tomcat server using Apache as the frontend. As usual, I'm having trouble (which is why I haven't bothered before, and given Tomcat apps a wide berth). Can someone let me know where I'm going wrong? I have setup inclusions in the httpd.conf file to use similar settings to other modules, etc. Therefore my worker.properties and mod_jk.conf is under /extras. I know something works because they are reflected when I navigate to /webapps on the Apache server. mod_jk.conf: # Replace jsp-hostname with the hostname of your JSP server, as # specified in workers.properties. # JkWorkersFile etc/apache22/extra/workers.properties JkLogFile /var/log/jk.log JkShmFile /var/log/jk-runtime-status JkLogLevel error # Sample JkMounts. Replace these with the paths you would # like to mount from your JSP server. JkMount /*.jsp localhost JkMount /servlet/* localhost JkMount /examples/* localhost # Map encoded urls SetHandler jakarta-servlet # Map subdirectory SetHandler jakarta-servlet workers.properties: # Incredibly simple workers.properties file, intended for connecting # to one host, via AJP13. See the tomcat documentation for # information on more exotic configuration options. # # Change jsp-hostname to the hostname of your JSP server. # worker.list=localhost workers.tomcat_home=/usr/local/apache-tomcat6.0 workers.java_home=/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0 worker.localhost.port=8009 worker.localhost.host=localhost worker.localhost.type=ajp13 worker.localhost.lbfactor=1 I figured I didn't need to worry about the setenv variable as I'm only testing currently and only need one connector atm. Any ideas why I shouldn't be seeing the index.jsp found in the Tomcat directories? I also tried navigating directly using port 8009 with no result either (And yes, Tomcat has been started- I checked the port using nmap). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 01:02:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69B216A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FF913C447 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1J0waqh042520; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:58:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1J0wZu3042519; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:58:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:58:35 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Erich Dollansky Message-ID: <20080219005835.GA42481@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> <47BA275C.7030006@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47BA275C.7030006@pacific.net.sg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:02:39 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:48:28AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, HP, IBM, Lenovo, Toshiba plus all the PC built > around standard components will do. > > If you would be a bit more specific about price, speed and function of > the machine, we could help you better. Yes. Any servers from those vendors will work. Plus, there are a couple of companies that claim to produce systems expecially for running FreeBSD servers. Some are: http://www.freedomtc.com/ http://www.ixsystems.com/ http://www.ironsystems.com/index.asp They don't limit themselves to FreeBSD, but they claim support for it. ////jerry > > You might will have problems getting certain machines without operating > system. > > Erich > > Ryan Jenkins wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD Operating > >System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. Right now I am > >having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture that can make a system > >that uses FreeBSD. I currently have found a product from MPC or > >Micron/Gateway that creates systems with no Operating System, but my > >programmers are having a hard time with getting the software loaded on the > >system. Can you please help me find a supplier that builds Desktop or > >All-in-One computers that will operate FreeBSD. > > > > > > > > Ryan Jenkins > > > > P.O. 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( [68.35.151.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm18554339wfg.17.2008.02.18.17.07.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:07:13 -0800 (PST) From: James To: Da Rock In-Reply-To: <1203382458.6470.32.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <1203382458.6470.32.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:07:12 -0700 Message-Id: <1203383232.5883.2.camel@pclmills> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuring mod_jk for Apache and Tomcat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: oscartheduck@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:07:17 -0000 On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 10:54 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > I'm trying to setup a tomcat server using Apache as the frontend. As > usual, I'm having trouble (which is why I haven't bothered before, and > given Tomcat apps a wide berth). Can someone let me know where I'm going > wrong? I have setup inclusions in the httpd.conf file to use similar > settings to other modules, etc. Therefore my worker.properties and > mod_jk.conf is under /extras. > > I know something works because they are reflected when I navigate > to /webapps on the Apache server. > > mod_jk.conf: > # Replace jsp-hostname with the hostname of your JSP server, as > # specified in workers.properties. > # > > JkWorkersFile etc/apache22/extra/workers.properties > JkLogFile /var/log/jk.log > JkShmFile /var/log/jk-runtime-status > JkLogLevel error > > # Sample JkMounts. Replace these with the paths you would > # like to mount from your JSP server. > JkMount /*.jsp localhost > JkMount /servlet/* localhost > JkMount /examples/* localhost > > > # Map encoded urls > > SetHandler jakarta-servlet > > > # Map subdirectory > > SetHandler jakarta-servlet > > > > > workers.properties: > # Incredibly simple workers.properties file, intended for connecting > # to one host, via AJP13. See the tomcat documentation for > # information on more exotic configuration options. > # > # Change jsp-hostname to the hostname of your JSP server. > # > worker.list=localhost > workers.tomcat_home=/usr/local/apache-tomcat6.0 > workers.java_home=/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0 > worker.localhost.port=8009 > worker.localhost.host=localhost > worker.localhost.type=ajp13 > worker.localhost.lbfactor=1 > > > I figured I didn't need to worry about the setenv variable as I'm only > testing currently and only need one connector atm. > > Any ideas why I shouldn't be seeing the index.jsp found in the Tomcat > directories? > > I also tried navigating directly using port 8009 with no result either > (And yes, Tomcat has been started- I checked the port using nmap). > The two things I always screw up: permissions and DNS. If your /etc/hosts isn't set up properly, and/or hosts.conf's URL entries aren't correct, weird weird errors can happen. If something is set to 444 instead of 755 (as appropriate), other weirdnesses occur. Are you using a www user? Make sure they're added as appropriate for the file. I know *none* of this may be helpful, but I always check those and I've usually screwed one up. Otherwise, is there anything in /var/log/httpd-error? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 01:14:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD0116A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C514113C43E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from [192.168.1.29] (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4635C22; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:15:11 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <47BA2D68.9080007@hdk5.net> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:14:16 -1000 From: NetOpsCenter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061211 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz References: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> In-Reply-To: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:14:18 -0000 Ryan Jenkins wrote: > Hello, > > I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD Operating > System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. Right now I am > having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture that can make a system > that uses FreeBSD. I currently have found a product from MPC or > Micron/Gateway that creates systems with no Operating System, but my > programmers are having a hard time with getting the software loaded on the > system. Can you please help me find a supplier that builds Desktop or > All-in-One computers that will operate FreeBSD. > > > > Ryan Jenkins > > P.O. Box 21138 > P: 406 896-9900 > F: 406 896-0045 > C: 406 208-8193 > Email: > rjenkins@centurygaming.biz > > > > Confidentiality Statement: > This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. > Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), > you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail message or any > information contained in the message. If you have received this e-mail > message in error, please advise the sender by replying to this message or by > telephone and then promptly delete it. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Aloha, I have built FreeBSD on several HP models and on 2 Dell boxes in the past. I now use Bio Star mother boards and build them from scratch into ATA cases. I have also used ASUS mother boards but 2 of them have start and boot after power off hardware issues. Nothing to do with FreeBSD bing the OS. -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 01:33:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309ED16A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2E613C4D3 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:33:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1J1Xr2A076757; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:33:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:33:45 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802181733.45990.kline@thought.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: java decoder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:33:58 -0000 Guys, I doubt this but is there anything that will take a foo.jar and turn in back into java? Or at least assembler? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 01:39:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D2F16A468 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimbow@darq.net) Received: from farnborough.darq.net (fab.darq.net [82.136.41.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B797E13C50E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimbow@darq.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by farnborough.darq.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B590D1D0A1 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:43:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at darq.net Received: from farnborough.darq.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (farnborough.darq.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3n+kV9QLydSK for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:42:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from troop.darq.net (hackney.darq.net [78.86.112.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zygis@darq.net) by farnborough.darq.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329C41D04E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:42:58 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47BA334F.8050301@darq.net> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:39:27 +0000 From: Jim Bow User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080218) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <200802181733.45990.kline@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <200802181733.45990.kline@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: java decoder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:39:35 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > I doubt this but is there anything that will take a foo.jar and turn in back > into java? Or at least assembler? This really isn't the place for such questions. As to the question itself, Im no java man, but I think a jar is an archive of classes, meaning you can extract them and then use a java decompiler to decompile the classes to get the source. Good luck. JimBow From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 01:41:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE2516A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [204.127.217.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC0E13C455 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.2] (adsl-157-33-205.bna.bellsouth.net[70.157.33.205]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with ESMTP id <20080219014101H0600cpn8oe>; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:41:02 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [70.157.33.205] Message-ID: <47BA33A6.30004@datapipe.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:40:54 -0600 From: "Paul A. Procacci" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <200802181733.45990.kline@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <200802181733.45990.kline@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: java decoder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:41:02 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, > > I doubt this but is there anything that will take a foo.jar and turn in back > into java? Or at least assembler? > > gary > > http://java.sun.com/developer/Books/javaprogramming/JAR/basics/ I went to google and typed: 'unpack jar'. There are many other results that you may be interested it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 01:41:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CAF16A420 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-out-05.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E28813C47E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-05.forthnet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1J1f3me019832; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:41:03 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (mx-in-01.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.23]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m1J1f3Kp019132; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:41:03 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl48-14.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.175.14]) by MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1J1evOW026319; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:40:59 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; sender-id=neutral Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1J1ev8w008028; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:40:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m1J1eufS008027; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:40:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:40:56 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080219014056.GA7936@kobe.laptop> References: <200802181733.45990.kline@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200802181733.45990.kline@thought.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: java decoder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:41:05 -0000 On 2008-02-18 17:33, Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, > I doubt this but is there anything that will take a foo.jar and turn in back > into java? Or at least assembler? JAR files are usually ZIP archives [1], so you can extract them easily with archivers/unzip or similar tools. [1] But care must be taken to avoid `filename case folding', see [2] [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAR_%28file_format%29 The tricky part is then to find a "Java decompiler". I've used `Mocha' in the past with limited success, but you should probably Google for more options. The homepage of `Mocha' is: http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/software/mocha/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 01:57:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAB516A421 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E041513C478 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1J1sXq5051981 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:54:47 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1203383232.5883.2.camel@pclmills> References: <1203382458.6470.32.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1203383232.5883.2.camel@pclmills> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:54:26 +1000 Message-Id: <1203386066.6470.38.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.535, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.26, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: Configuring mod_jk for Apache and Tomcat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:57:04 -0000 On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 18:07 -0700, James wrote: > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 10:54 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > I'm trying to setup a tomcat server using Apache as the frontend. As > > usual, I'm having trouble (which is why I haven't bothered before, and > > given Tomcat apps a wide berth). Can someone let me know where I'm going > > wrong? I have setup inclusions in the httpd.conf file to use similar > > settings to other modules, etc. Therefore my worker.properties and > > mod_jk.conf is under /extras. > > > > I know something works because they are reflected when I navigate > > to /webapps on the Apache server. > > > > mod_jk.conf: > > # Replace jsp-hostname with the hostname of your JSP server, as > > # specified in workers.properties. > > # > > > > JkWorkersFile etc/apache22/extra/workers.properties > > JkLogFile /var/log/jk.log > > JkShmFile /var/log/jk-runtime-status > > JkLogLevel error > > > > # Sample JkMounts. Replace these with the paths you would > > # like to mount from your JSP server. > > JkMount /*.jsp localhost > > JkMount /servlet/* localhost > > JkMount /examples/* localhost > > > > > > # Map encoded urls > > > > SetHandler jakarta-servlet > > > > > > # Map subdirectory > > > > SetHandler jakarta-servlet > > > > > > > > > > workers.properties: > > # Incredibly simple workers.properties file, intended for connecting > > # to one host, via AJP13. See the tomcat documentation for > > # information on more exotic configuration options. > > # > > # Change jsp-hostname to the hostname of your JSP server. > > # > > worker.list=localhost > > workers.tomcat_home=/usr/local/apache-tomcat6.0 > > workers.java_home=/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0 > > worker.localhost.port=8009 > > worker.localhost.host=localhost > > worker.localhost.type=ajp13 > > worker.localhost.lbfactor=1 > > > > > > I figured I didn't need to worry about the setenv variable as I'm only > > testing currently and only need one connector atm. > > > > Any ideas why I shouldn't be seeing the index.jsp found in the Tomcat > > directories? > > > > I also tried navigating directly using port 8009 with no result either > > (And yes, Tomcat has been started- I checked the port using nmap). > > > > > The two things I always screw up: permissions and DNS. If > your /etc/hosts isn't set up properly, and/or hosts.conf's URL entries > aren't correct, weird weird errors can happen. If something is set to > 444 instead of 755 (as appropriate), other weirdnesses occur. > > Are you using a www user? Make sure they're added as appropriate for the > file. > > I know *none* of this may be helpful, but I always check those and I've > usually screwed one up. Otherwise, is there anything > in /var/log/httpd-error? You could be right with that, but I think its in my setup somewhere. What shows up if I navigate to /webapps is it recognises Apache-Tomcat but gives me a 404. I can't navigate directly to Tomcat, but I'm not sure I've got it right. 8009 seems to be just for the connector, and 8443 does nothing. It appears to me that I haven't got a directory on Tomcat setup but I haven't a clue where to set it. Web.xml seems right, but then I'm not sure... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 02:18:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A0E16A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:18:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iamdxy@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E90013C4D3 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:18:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iamdxy@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so2369864pyb.10 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:18:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=qKN/qHOgr8s+6k5a7X0ld6moG/U9cwuiQQGrWPV1gGk=; b=QoD1t82KRza5zsqXVUrpNG9nnwLyYRpJEKH/P0gBkQxmYEcM/5iOdNm8vqyKitKXFGYhCWK0wwrR25/jmlt/H6Dl7KRXGYfalrAhqfiBIXxctAtmeNDcqGY/cTWGif+MGUuXQ4Ob7Ai6RVi1Q+ccf9ZIjTc/9zpXJQwoOcH5SMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Q2aUPfPvTRTaL7HEstCPfLyDkJtaQ8QdWaKLFM+N8qFqLnS8PVuUbFJjgqGHXE5hOy8rwcrWk/klVqhCCTuSSz69w2d74I8QaKcwKrSnd8p+72mLgq55r26GNWCpLDUz9jfeNXNR4/1WQlZc2uf05B8rS5xbzkoZYtJ0XdrajsE= Received: by 10.140.126.14 with SMTP id y14mr4344119rvc.96.1203387506284; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.78.1 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:18:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9c2955e10802181818y1f8b67c4jcb4d36364c250353@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:18:26 +0800 From: "Xinyu Dong" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: md-disk as root file system,size limit!? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:18:27 -0000 I want use md-disk as root file system. OS: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE Environment = VMWare (Version 5) and Computer (CPU=Intel P4 2.4G, Memory=Kingston 1G DDR400, Storage=2G CF) create a less-than 100MB of image (image for ramdisk, mfs root) The loader.rc { load kernel // The kernel used 6.2 GENERIC load -t mfs_root /image // dd if=/dev/zero of=/image bs=1k count=95k } above config can boot normal. create a greater than 100MB of image (image for ramdisk, mfs root) The loader.rc { load kernel // The kernel used 6.2 GENERIC load -t mfs_root /image // dd if=/dev/zero of=/image bs=1k count=128k } above config can't boot normal, reboot immediately. create a equal 100MB or equal 99MB of image (image for ramdisk, mfs root) The loader.rc { load kernel // The kernel used 6.2 GENERIC load -t mfs_root /image // dd if=/dev/zero of=/image bs=1k count=100k (or count=99k) } above config can't boot normal, kernel panic. [TEST] system up normally [GENERIC KERNEL]: My Step: 1. dd if=/dev/zero of=/image bs=1k count=128k 2. mdconfig -a -t vnode -f /image -u 0 3. bsdlabel -Bw /dev/md0 auto 4. newfs /dev/md0a 5. mount /dev/md0a /mnt df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 23G 1.5G 20G 7% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/md0a 124M 4.0K 114M 0% /mnt system not panic. but config loader.rc, add "load -t mfs_root /image" or "load -t md_image /image" will panic. I tried configuring the kernel, change MD_ROOT_SIZE and MAXDSIZ=(1024UL*1024*1024); MAXSSIZ=(512UL*1024*1024); DFLDSIZ=(1024UL*1024*1024), panic still. Can I use 128MB mddisk? Who can help me~~ Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 02:39:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0105F16A46C for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takhoos@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s39.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s39.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E4113C447 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:39:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takhoos@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY124-W14 ([207.46.11.177]) by bay0-omc1-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:25:21 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [75.127.192.172] From: To: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:25:21 -0500 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Feb 2008 02:25:21.0954 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD651020:01C8729E] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 6.3 Xorg issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:39:20 -0000 Anyone else having issues getting Xorg working with 6.3? I get a pcidata = error when trying to startx. Used to work great on 6.2. Do I have to in= stal Xorg manually with 6.3? --Joe=20 _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!=A0Play the word scramble challenge with sta= r power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=3Dstarshuffle_wlmailtextlink_ja= n= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 02:41:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C0D16A41B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEA313C458 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1J2fr9b077162; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:41:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:41:52 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> <47BA1375.2010108@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <47BA1375.2010108@tundraware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802181841.53221.kline@thought.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Subject: Re: is there an easier way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:41:58 -0000 On Monday 18 February 2008 15:23:33 Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > To my fellow C nerds, > > > > It's been a great manny years since I wrote this appended > > snippet. Now I can't remember why (of if ) I need all the > > strcpy() calls. Is there a simpler, more logical way of > > printing a bunch of string by snipping off the left-most? > > > > In short,, can anyone 'splain why strtok needs all this? > > > > tia, > > > > gary > > I don't think you need the copies. This works just as well: > > #include > #include > > main() > { > char *bp, *tok; > char *delim=" ", s1[256]="abc def ghi jkl mno."; > > bp = s1; /* Now both point to the literal string to be tokenized */ > > while ((tok = strtok(bp, delim)) != NULL) > { > bp = NULL; > printf("tok = [%s]\n", tok); > } > } I'll try this and compare it to what Joe sent. Also looking at publib.0.39 that LIW started years back. Ideally, I think it's better to malloc space because given my intended use, the strings could be relatively few ... or run into the thousands. Parenthetically, I'm trying to get use to kmail, and evolution, both of which are hard to save the attachment-of. mutt is so much easier. Thanks for the feedback. much appreciated, -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 03:28:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0E916A421 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenny@edpausa.com) Received: from skywalker.edpausa.com (mail.edpausa.com [67.88.41.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBD913C45A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenny@edpausa.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.edpausa.com [127.0.0.1]) by skywalker.edpausa.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C8EC9618 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:17:26 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at edpausa.com Received: from skywalker.edpausa.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (skywalker.edpausa.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J4HB3spdTa00 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:17:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.edpausa.com (localhost.edpausa.com [127.0.0.1]) by skywalker.edpausa.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FE1C9615 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:17:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.254.116.226 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lenny) by mail.edpausa.com with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:17:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <51345.216.254.116.226.1203391042.squirrel@mail.edpausa.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:17:22 -0500 (EST) From: lenny@edpausa.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: libc5 on freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:28:05 -0000 after several years of relatively trouble free system ( 5 > 6.3 ) and port upgrades, I started having some issues with timesieved daemon of cyrus imap. nothing in the software configuration has changed, but the cyrus port was recently upgraded ( around the same time that the system was upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 ) the only thing that looks suspicious is the fact that most ( or all ) cyrus binaries are linked to both libc5 and libc6. in fact, after some digging around, I discovered that many other binaries on the system seem be linked to both libraries. I suspect that libc5 is the remnant of 5x installation. What's the safest thing to do ? remove libc5 and link libc5 to libc6 ? rebuild affected software ? ( couldn't find a relevant make.conf option, so what might a flag like that look like ? WITH_LIBC_VER=6 ? or is there something else that can be done ? also, it would be helpful to learn how to avoid this in the future. Thanks a lot in advance. /usr/local/cyrus/bin/timsieved: libsasl2.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 (0x8814b000) libgssapi.so.8 => /usr/lib/libgssapi.so.8 (0x88162000) libkrb5.so.8 => /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.8 (0x88171000) libasn1.so.8 => /usr/lib/libasn1.so.8 (0x881ab000) libroken.so.8 => /usr/lib/libroken.so.8 (0x881d3000) libcrypt.so.3 => /lib/libcrypt.so.3 (0x881e0000) libcom_err.so.3 => /usr/lib/libcom_err.so.3 (0x881f9000) libdb-4.2.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libdb-4.2.so.2 (0x881fb000) libssl.so.4 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.4 (0x882d0000) libcrypto.so.4 => /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x88302000) libmd.so.3 => /lib/libmd.so.3 (0x8840f000) libwrap.so.4 => /usr/lib/libwrap.so.4 (0x8841e000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x88425000) libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x8851c000) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 03:33:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BD916A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@kajs.co.nz) Received: from mx5.orcon.net.nz (mx5.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257EE13C447 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@kajs.co.nz) Received: from Debian-exim by mx5.orcon.net.nz with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRIxn-0004XJ-P0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:16:11 +1300 Received: from [60.234.135.124] (helo=[192.168.1.222]) by mx5.orcon.net.nz with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRIxn-0004Wp-9r for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:16:11 +1300 Message-ID: <47BA49DA.1090003@kajs.co.nz> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:15:38 +1300 From: Josh User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000301c86e5f$b72b5d00$0200a8c0@satellite> <39613.195.50.100.20.1202921363.squirrel@www.superhero.nl> In-Reply-To: <39613.195.50.100.20.1202921363.squirrel@www.superhero.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DSPAM-Check: by mx5.orcon.net.nz on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:16:11 +1300 X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 19 16:16:11 2008 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.6175 X-DSPAM-Improbability: 1 in 162 chance of being spam X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 Subject: Re: accessing a jailed samba server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:33:41 -0000 I am having dramas with samba in a 6.3 jail Basically the part that is not working, is I cant ping/resolve the netbios name of the samba box from any windows machine. There is a linux samba box here, and I tried the same config as that, and no go. Baiscally if I try and ping it from a windows box, I get this: >ping bytecart Ping request could not find host bytecart. Please check the name and try again. Nothing in nbtstat -c relating to the samba box. The weird thing is that I can see the samba box in windows explorer in the network places. Clicking on it obvious says 'network path not found' or such. I can manually map the network drive by going \\1.2.3.4\username though. Also, this seems odd (from netstat -an): udp4 0 0 192.168.94.9.138 *.* udp4 0 0 192.168.94.9.137 *.* udp4 0 0 192.168.94.9.138 *.* udp4 0 0 192.168.94.9.137 *.* So yeah, any ideas? Cheers, Josh Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD wrote: > On Wed, February 13, 2008 17:44, Dave wrote: >> Hello, >> Has anyone got samba running in a jail? And if so, is it possible to >> access that server from outside this jail? I'm implementing some items in >> a >> jailed environment and now have to test samba before going production. >> If any workarounds are needed i'd appreciate knowing them. >> Thanks. >> Dave. >> > > Running Samba within a jail on Freebsd 7-RC2 serving data from a ZFS pool. > No issues or anything special required. > > Rgds, > > Patrick > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 04:10:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5FA16A469 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4A0513C469 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 28456 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 04:10:23 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 19 Feb 2008 04:10:20 -0000 Message-ID: <47BA56A6.6080603@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:10:14 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: takhoos@hotmail.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.3 Xorg issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:10:25 -0000 Hi, takhoos@hotmail.com wrote: > Anyone else having issues getting Xorg working with 6.3? I get a pcidata error when trying to startx. Used to work great on 6.2. Do I have to instal Xorg manually with 6.3? --Joe I upgraded by accident to 6.3 and did not even notice any difference. I started csup with the intent to patch 6.2 but upgraded the sources to 6.3, compiled, installed and rebooted without any problems. I know, but it happend this way. X kept on working. Erich > _________________________________________________________________ > Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. > http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 04:30:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325E516A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (penna-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0BDC13C457 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:30:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1J4UZ8O012639; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:30:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <200802181733.45990.kline@thought.org> References: <200802181733.45990.kline@thought.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-t0xUO3HC8xNJjpYIXD6Z" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:30:32 -0500 Message-Id: <1203395432.32200.38.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: java decoder? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:30:36 -0000 --=-t0xUO3HC8xNJjpYIXD6Z Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 17:33 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, >=20 > I doubt this but is there anything that will take a foo.jar and turn in b= ack=20 > into java? Or at least assembler? =20 A jar is an archive which contains multiple Java class files. So you will need to extract the class files first (e.g. jar -xf foo.jar). Once you have a class file or files you can use java/jad to decompile the byte code back to .java source code. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-t0xUO3HC8xNJjpYIXD6Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAke6W2cACgkQb2iPiv4Uz4fxVwCdFlAE5C31J2tirSJQLBLEzUNX sdoAn1fFeORDV95rQl++8KIg4I02efDG =2UNc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-t0xUO3HC8xNJjpYIXD6Z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 04:34:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B439616A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F62913C455 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1J4Xeij036981 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:33:42 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1203388082.5883.6.camel@pclmills> References: <1203382458.6470.32.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1203383232.5883.2.camel@pclmills> <1203386041.6470.36.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1203388082.5883.6.camel@pclmills> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:33:35 +1000 Message-Id: <1203395615.6470.45.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.507, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.29, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: Configuring mod_jk for Apache and Tomcat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:34:12 -0000 On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 19:28 -0700, James wrote: > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 11:54 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 18:07 -0700, James wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 10:54 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > I'm trying to setup a tomcat server using Apache as the frontend. As > > > > usual, I'm having trouble (which is why I haven't bothered before, and > > > > given Tomcat apps a wide berth). Can someone let me know where I'm going > > > > wrong? I have setup inclusions in the httpd.conf file to use similar > > > > settings to other modules, etc. Therefore my worker.properties and > > > > mod_jk.conf is under /extras. > > > > > > > > I know something works because they are reflected when I navigate > > > > to /webapps on the Apache server. > > > > > > > > mod_jk.conf: > > > > # Replace jsp-hostname with the hostname of your JSP server, as > > > > # specified in workers.properties. > > > > # > > > > > > > > JkWorkersFile etc/apache22/extra/workers.properties > > Is this line right? Shouldn't it be /etc/apache22 etc, or am I just > misthinking? > > > > > > > JkLogFile /var/log/jk.log > > > > JkShmFile /var/log/jk-runtime-status > > > > JkLogLevel error > > > > > > > > # Sample JkMounts. Replace these with the paths you would > > > > # like to mount from your JSP server. > > > > JkMount /*.jsp localhost > > > > JkMount /servlet/* localhost > > > > JkMount /examples/* localhost > > > > > > > > > > > > # Map encoded urls > > > > > > > > SetHandler jakarta-servlet > > > > > > > > > > > > # Map subdirectory > > > > > > > > SetHandler jakarta-servlet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > workers.properties: > > > > # Incredibly simple workers.properties file, intended for connecting > > > > # to one host, via AJP13. See the tomcat documentation for > > > > # information on more exotic configuration options. > > > > # > > > > # Change jsp-hostname to the hostname of your JSP server. > > > > # > > > > worker.list=localhost > > > > workers.tomcat_home=/usr/local/apache-tomcat6.0 > > > > workers.java_home=/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0 > > > > worker.localhost.port=8009 > > > > worker.localhost.host=localhost > > > > worker.localhost.type=ajp13 > > > > worker.localhost.lbfactor=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > I figured I didn't need to worry about the setenv variable as I'm only > > > > testing currently and only need one connector atm. > > > > > > > > Any ideas why I shouldn't be seeing the index.jsp found in the Tomcat > > > > directories? > > > > > > > > I also tried navigating directly using port 8009 with no result either > > > > (And yes, Tomcat has been started- I checked the port using nmap). > > > > > > > > > > > > > The two things I always screw up: permissions and DNS. If > > > your /etc/hosts isn't set up properly, and/or hosts.conf's URL entries > > > aren't correct, weird weird errors can happen. If something is set to > > > 444 instead of 755 (as appropriate), other weirdnesses occur. > > > > > > Are you using a www user? Make sure they're added as appropriate for the > > > file. > > > > > > I know *none* of this may be helpful, but I always check those and I've > > > usually screwed one up. Otherwise, is there anything > > > in /var/log/httpd-error? > > > > You could be right with that, but I think its in my setup somewhere. > > What shows up if I navigate to /webapps is it recognises Apache-Tomcat > > but gives me a 404. I can't navigate directly to Tomcat, but I'm not > > sure I've got it right. 8009 seems to be just for the connector, and > > 8443 does nothing. > > > > It appears to me that I haven't got a directory on Tomcat setup but I > > haven't a clue where to set it. Web.xml seems right, but then I'm not > > sure... > > > > OK. Tomcat is working- I managed to find out how to get direct access to it (had to uncomment a line in server.xml, web.xml). Still no Apache / Tomcat connector though. If I navigate to /webapps it says 404 - although this says the error comes from Apache Tomcat6. Is it the connector config I need to play with or the Tomcat? In either case, what do I need to change? I found through a search that older versions of Tomcat need to have a listener line in the server.xml. Is this true for Tomcat6? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 04:34:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D5916A49A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B6D13C4DB for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1J4YdJ9077764; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:34:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:34:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:34:39 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <20080219043438.GA32855@thought.org> References: <20080218230351.GA28000@thought.org> <47BA1375.2010108@tundraware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47BA1375.2010108@tundraware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there an easier way? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:34:51 -0000 On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 05:23:33PM -0600, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > To my fellow C nerds, > > > > It's been a great manny years since I wrote this appended > > snippet. Now I can't remember why (of if ) I need all the > > strcpy() calls. Is there a simpler, more logical way of > > printing a bunch of string by snipping off the left-most? > > > > In short,, can anyone 'splain why strtok needs all this? > > > > tia, > > > > gary > > > > > > I don't think you need the copies. This works just as well: > > #include > #include > > main() > { > char *bp, *tok; > char *delim=" ", s1[256]="abc def ghi jkl mno."; > > bp = s1; /* Now both point to the literal string to be tokenized */ > > while ((tok = strtok(bp, delim)) != NULL) > { > bp = NULL; > printf("tok = [%s]\n", tok); > } > } > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com > PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ Giving up kmail..... this works too, thanks. But only with a fixed buffer --obv'ly 256 in this case. still pondering... . > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 05:15:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA5D16A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BF813C45E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:15:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so1668322wxd.7 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:15:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=bI3U6qW3NXgAiSVgmCi5ljr/H6RiQX87XoB3vYM5NbY=; b=FW8v8oZWaj5+kc8Xw04Smw2dtnQ982Uy3ZF4IuusB7aecZYqgf6KL09zannKH6mcl9WQ538lYZRv1WOhAl1ocN9sn0o3O9QMpKCve9LP0mu9z7i5I837t6hmINKxvTHnZQRtJTxs2inRzUPpwn7uvuMeKyfclmThVPu96PB8Wv8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=vUoPUxtq5fqSqtRlRHhUimor/cDTs6N2rIyi9XSO1qFCCS68Bz/u0AuqoH1sMET7uMH6PAttzn8/RHwOIbfN6N3NrHa3FGy9uZjJHwuMMSsNeBnGoY5jBOr19H9KeN2KH27mruE5hpfIc+owUIt7bv1rE/AjP7cviv803RBubqs= Received: by 10.150.58.5 with SMTP id g5mr2340527yba.89.1203398150906; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:15:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.148.8 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:15:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1563a4fd0802182115xf64b634yd361a78ba0c8ff68@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:45:50 +0530 From: "navneet Upadhyay" To: "Dominic Fandrey" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47B9C8D8.5060807@bsdforen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> <47B9A31B.7060602@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802180813l7d80cb4en9adfd838f4591712@mail.gmail.com> <47B9C8D8.5060807@bsdforen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:15:58 -0000 I didnt get what do you mean. Do you mean : I should install lib32 on freeBSD and then rebuild my applications in order to make it work on 32 and 64 bit systems . rite now I have built my app on 32 bit system (which is not having lib32 installed), it works on 32 bit freebsd but fails on 64 bit system. On 2/18/08, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > > navneet Upadhyay wrote: > > On 2/18/08, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > >> navneet Upadhyay wrote: > >>> Hi , > >>> For our product we generally compile the binaries on 32 bit > >> systems > >>> and use them for both 32 and 64 bit systems. like we have same > binaries > >> for > >>> 32 bit and 64 bit RHEL. > >>> > >>> We are porting the product to FreeBSD and when we tried the same, > >>> i.erunning binaries compiled on 32 bit FreeBSD > >>> 6.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD system they produce *core dump.* > >>> > >>> > >>> Any known reasons, do we have to compile binaries on 64 bit machine. > >> This should not happen. I would blindly guess at a linking problem. 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Best Regards, Mrs. Lindiwe Zuma. lindiwezumaa@satellite-email.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 05:46:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD2416A41B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3040E13C465 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1J5kNqD078131 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:46:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:46:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:46:23 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080219054620.GA33050@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: thankee, thankee! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:46:28 -0000 Giorgos, Joe, Paul , and Tim, Thanks for your insights today, gentlemen. I began on what may be a very worthwhile [ and reasonably small, *thankfully*] program that may benefit everybody who reads text online. Or off, for that matter. I was using a shareware version that kept annoying me to shovel $$$ their way when I finally got PO'd enough to do my own version. The algorithm comes first, naturally. Then the data structs|classes|. ---I do prelim coding while I'm planning; helps me figure things out. GUI: yes, I will need help with eventually; for now, going back and forth from that tts app, KTTSmgr(?) and the other shareware, I kept improving the dickens out of my thesis. Soooo.... see what happens. No offense to those of us who have hacked out man pages or other docs, but I'm pretty sure that using these tools will inddeed help improve the online documentation _considerably_. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 06:44:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778C316A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C60A13C448 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1276405480; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:44:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BA7A91.8060707@bsdforen.de> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:43:29 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: navneet Upadhyay References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> <47B9A31B.7060602@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802180813l7d80cb4en9adfd838f4591712@mail.gmail.com> <47B9C8D8.5060807@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802182115xf64b634yd361a78ba0c8ff68@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802182115xf64b634yd361a78ba0c8ff68@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:44:39 -0000 navneet Upadhyay wrote: > On 2/18/08, Dominic Fandrey wrote: >> navneet Upadhyay wrote: >>> On 2/18/08, Dominic Fandrey wrote: >>>> navneet Upadhyay wrote: >>>>> Hi , >>>>> For our product we generally compile the binaries on 32 bit >>>> systems >>>>> and use them for both 32 and 64 bit systems. like we have same >> binaries >>>> for >>>>> 32 bit and 64 bit RHEL. >>>>> >>>>> We are porting the product to FreeBSD and when we tried the same, >>>>> i.erunning binaries compiled on 32 bit FreeBSD >>>>> 6.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD system they produce *core dump.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Any known reasons, do we have to compile binaries on 64 bit machine. >>>> This should not happen. I would blindly guess at a linking problem. Are >>>> you >>>> using any shared libraries that do not belong to the base system? >>>> >>> Yes i am using few libs not built on FreeBSD but they work fine on 32 >> bit >>> freeBSD , so in principle they shud have the same behavior on 64 one. >> I suppose you are aware that they have to be 32-Bit libraries as well, for >> your 32-Bit application to work? >> > I didnt get what do you mean. > > Do you mean : > > I should install lib32 on freeBSD and then rebuild my applications in order > to make it work on 32 and 64 bit systems . > > rite now I have built my app on 32 bit system (which is not having lib32 > installed), it works on 32 bit freebsd but fails on 64 bit system. The app needs 32-Bit libraries tu run on 64 Bit. I suggest you link your program statically against libraries that are not part of the base system. That way everything should run just fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 06:49:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10C216A41B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maryyengeniz77@yahoo.co.jp) Received: from web2903.mail.tnz.yahoo.co.jp (web2903.mail.tnz.yahoo.co.jp [203.216.249.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 155F813C45A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maryyengeniz77@yahoo.co.jp) Received: (qmail 11955 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Feb 2008 06:22:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=yj20050223; d=yahoo.co.jp; h=Message-ID:Received:X-RocketDSI:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bMBwpnxQRCpkZFvUEDc3qUfBlRLn20DWXT7pj03Gq3j+gztEjOlgAO951JiM/Mbwk11TYuIrKuG77M7u1+Qa95qroCHpiOJHLvXSKClrDRwpsPqr4ZUAb1o+LtG/9sHh ; Message-ID: <20080219062227.11953.qmail@web2903.mail.tnz.yahoo.co.jp> Received: from [41.210.24.232] by web2903.mail.tnz.yahoo.co.jp via HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:22:27 JST X-RocketDSI: i=203.216.249.188;s=w Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:22:27 +0900 (JST) From: "Mrs.Mary Yengeni" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mary_yengeni_4@gawab.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:49:09 -0000 $B?7$7$$%a!<%k%"%I%l%9$r$*CN$i$;$7$^$9?7$7$$%a!<%k%"%I%l%9!'(B maryyengeniz77@yahoo.co.jp I am Mary Yengeni. from south African a Parliamentarian Wife i contacted you to be my project partner and stand as my Husband foriegn partner for transfer of US$15 million into your account for investment 1) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2756861.stm Sincerely, - Mrs.Mary Yengeni From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 07:12:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3054516A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:12:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA9213C45A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m1J7ClCo076430 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:12:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m1J7Clwt076427 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:12:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA14593; Mon, 18 Feb 08 23:03:27 PST Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:58:39 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <47ba7e1f.UDwudqHevRDrsQ8d%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: wine: notepad OK, others not X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:12:48 -0000 I have installed wine-0.9.20 from ports, and there's a Win98 FAT32 slice mounted on /windoze % grep -w windoze /etc/fstab /dev/ad0s1 /windoze msdosfs ro 0 0 If I run Notepad, like this, it seems to work % wine /windoze/WIN98/NOTEPAD.EXE but if I then try to run Write: % wine /windoze/WIN98/WRITE.EXE the window title bar says Wordpad and several capabilities (like Save) don't work. Meanwhile the *real* Wordpad doesn't even start: % wine /windoze/PROGRA~1/ACCESS~1/WORDPAD.EXE err:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL (which is needed by L"Z:\\windoze\\PROGRA~1\\ACCESS~1\\WORDPAD.EXE") not found err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\windoze\\PROGRA~1\\ACCESS~1\\WORDPAD.EXE" failed, status c0000135 but MFC42.DLL does exist, in what I think is the usual place: % find /windoze -name MFC42.DLL -ls 3536377 1948 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 995383 Apr 23 1999 /windoze/WIN98/SYSTEM/MFC42.DLL How do I fix this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 07:19:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA6E16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C9413C465 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m1J7Iu0Y020508; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:18:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:19:57 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:18:57 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:19:00 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Ryan Jenkins > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:20 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!!!! > Importance: Low > > > Hello, > > I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD Operating > System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. Right now I am > having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture that can make a system > that uses FreeBSD. Hi Ryan, Please go here: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html Several of the hardware vendors on this list can supply you with ready-to-run FreeBSD workstations and servers, loaded to your specifications. Ted Mittelstaedt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 07:24:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361DC16A46C for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@bounces.jaxtr.com) Received: from smtp152.sv.jaxtr.com (smtp152.sv.jaxtr.com [74.201.86.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A3F13C45B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:24:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@bounces.jaxtr.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=jaxtr.com; s=dkim1024; c=simple/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@jaxtr.com; t=1203405895; h=From:Sender; bh=MD66DbaXO1u4q0ZZRhgzhRLmPdk=; b=DUj3Y8w0hCRE10EhHv8e8W/rgT/iJFSVTriJhEup6ANSX29zhJA4CVesMp60m/6G pKpCSnFWBElcDqu2/f5MctwLX5r2awK+ch1RL6pGklJMWJwP0SIw+WFXC4TH31UE nKLQPwZA8oc2qJLoJc5gy6y7Ub0aiGrc3csUtHKLoR8=; DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=dk1024; d=jaxtr.com; h=Received:Date:From:Sender:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Sysflow; b=P+7yrQH/I/rB/7CTNRHTWZ8wfQd89U10GGcDKOTIm5UDvjBoKFcjyt5DvDn5Mvf9 WhAgFp4ERHJ5TTDwofX5FpraL0dewSjNm+tsbcJhUOYUPM6yRmiZvR23FwjJ5Pud UIBfvCRhwt/v7KzmHzXGYsCbYtjqCFw/fbuTlx8Ab08= Received: from [74.201.86.160] ([74.201.86.160:46271] helo=que1.sv.jaxtr.com) by smtp1.sv.jaxtr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.1.23 r(20421)) with ESMTP id 9F/76-16206-7448AB74; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:24:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:24:55 +0000 (GMT) From: jaxtr Invitation Sender: bounces@jaxtr.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1230490603.401461203405895872.JavaMail.tomcat@que1.sv.jaxtr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sysflow: cv,20080215t2355,nbemov.9mxzqv,219693156 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Your invitation from harikrishna jalamanchili is about to expire X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:24:56 -0000 Hello, On Feb 04, 2008, harikrishna jalamanchili sent you an invitation to get jaxtr. 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Follow this link to get jaxtr: http://www.jaxtr.com/user/ticket?n=T1n2xu2560yal7&type=joininvite Signing up is free and takes less than a minute. -------------- This is a one-time courtesy notification from jaxtr about the expiration of this invitation from harikrishna jalamanchili From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 07:39:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D6C16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458B313C461 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m1J7cwuw020691; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Da Rock" , Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:40:00 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <1203380178.6470.13.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:38:59 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: Still looking for a calendar server... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:39:09 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Da Rock > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:16 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server... > > > > I'm currently looking into bedework now- it seems ideal, but getting > tomcat to work with apache is becoming a challenge. I'm using mod_jk but > it doesn't appear to be cooperating yet. > > What is your experience in building apache modules? The problem is > mainly in the mod_dav_acl module which needs xattr.h. I'm wondering if > we can "borrow" the headers from another source. > You can borrow whatever headers you need to get the code to compile. You may find that it would work a lot better though if you change the xattr.h include to: include The problem will be in the link stage. If the libraries that you have linked in do not contain the functions that are defined in xattr.h then you will get link failures. However I don't really understand why your having problems. The SF page for this, here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/moddavacl claims: "Operating System: All POSIX (Linux/BSD/UNIX-like OSes)" This would indicate a configure script that understands FreeBSD is present. It sounds to me like you are not following the instructions included with the mod_dav_acl module to build it properly. What exactly are you doing? Could you post the steps your going through to build this? I had thought Mirosoft deprecated all the webdav stuff in future IIS servers - maybe there is a lack of interest in the industry now? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 08:15:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BDA16A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:15:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (freebsd.alaskaparadise.com [208.79.80.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C43D13C458 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:15:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from 137-42-178-69.gci.net (137-42-178-69.gci.net [69.178.42.137]) by freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F8723836D9; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:59:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:59:36 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802182259.40619.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Da Rock , Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Beech Rintoul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:15:28 -0000 On Monday 18 February 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt said: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Da Rock > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:16 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server... > > > > > > > > I'm currently looking into bedework now- it seems ideal, but > > getting tomcat to work with apache is becoming a challenge. I'm > > using mod_jk but it doesn't appear to be cooperating yet. > > > > What is your experience in building apache modules? The problem > > is mainly in the mod_dav_acl module which needs xattr.h. I'm > > wondering if we can "borrow" the headers from another source. > > You can borrow whatever headers you need to get the code to > compile. You may find that it would work a lot better though if you > change the xattr.h include to: > > include > > The problem will be in the link stage. If the libraries that you > have linked in do not contain the functions that are defined in > xattr.h then you will get link failures. > > However I don't really understand why your having problems. The > SF page for this, here: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/moddavacl > > claims: > > "Operating System: All POSIX (Linux/BSD/UNIX-like OSes)" > > This would indicate a configure script that understands > FreeBSD is present. It sounds to me like you are not > following the instructions included with the mod_dav_acl module > to build it properly. What exactly are you doing? Could you > post the steps your going through to build this? > > I had thought Mirosoft deprecated all the webdav stuff in > future IIS servers - maybe there is a lack of interest in the > industry now? > > Ted He also might want to look at Horde. You can install from=20 www/horde-meta and choose the kronolith module.=20 =46rom their website: "The Kronolith calendar provides a robust web-based calendar for any=20 number of users or groups, with the ability to show any number of=20 calendars in a single overlaid view. Users can create any number of=20 calendars and grant read, edit, or full permissions to any user,=20 group, or any combination thereof." Beech =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.3R/announce.html =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 08:21:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D811C16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8932B13C44B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JRNjN-0002v5-T6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:21:37 +0000 Received: from cairn.ints.net ([194.44.58.121]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:21:37 +0000 Received: from c.kworr by cairn.ints.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:21:37 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:21:26 +0200 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <8327AD78-3C25-4E5C-80C5-183436A286AB@tca-cable-connector.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cairn.ints.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20080123 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 In-Reply-To: <8327AD78-3C25-4E5C-80C5-183436A286AB@tca-cable-connector.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: QEMU Windows and X forwarding X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:21:44 -0000 David Schulz wrote: > Hello, > > my Goal is to setup a FreeBSD Server that hosts about 5 Images of > (licensed) Windows XP, which i made either using QEMU or Win4BSD. Those > Images then i want to make accessible to old Macintosh PowerPC Machines, > so the Users can access one or two Applications that only run under > Windows XP. I would like to know from anyone in a similar situation how > to accomplish this best. > > Currently, I pretty much have it setup for myself, so when i open X11 on > my PowerPC Machine, and type in ssh -X server_address windows_xp , i do > get an instance of Windows XP on my PowerPC Machine. > > The trouble here for now is server and network performance. I would like > to know if anyone of you has any suggestions for me on how i can make > the network load as little as possible. I read that freenx is offering > really good responsiveness, but unfortunately it is marked as broken on > my System using FreeBSD Version 6.3. I'm using net/rdesktop for that. It's native to win, easy to setup, easy to work. qemu bla-bla-bla -redir tcp:3389::3389 -nographic You can use different outside ports for different virtual machines. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 08:34:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189C116A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitrovi58@yahoo.com) Received: from web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0ED913C4CE for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:34:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitrovi58@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 99768 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Feb 2008 08:34:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=LmpNeebsH1A+d+3TyeZVozYyKMzoZ4LfKlvCQuwf0buSyMuP7Uzai3xfl59lIpsOL3d3WtMCGS8Ygc7JHELbzF8j5gSyge0WYhnJrtDHKevcFVJjFJOvrZOTZsEhD7jup25dtGlPwIreiODbUH+NTgq8OLMaZ9MXSjz11I0T/DA=; X-YMail-OSG: 9saMEcoVM1k19k7i.JLkntVg2VUlktngd3mFNhgK Received: from [82.199.200.112] by web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:34:23 PST Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:34:23 -0800 (PST) From: ivan dimitrov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <904190.99482.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: what is the meaning of "optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:34:25 -0000 After upgrading from freebsd-5.5-R to 6.3-R, I get the following message in dmesg: "/storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" I use a ram disk via the md driver. Here is the line from my fstab file: md /storage/pub/www/ram mfs rw,-s4m 2 0 Does this mean that there is some sort of error? ...and is there anything that can be done, so that I don't get this message in dmesg? Any help will be greatly appreciated :) --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 08:35:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAA316A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4282C13C461 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:35:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JRNwE-0003TO-8y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:34:54 +0000 Received: from cairn.ints.net ([194.44.58.121]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:34:54 +0000 Received: from c.kworr by cairn.ints.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:34:54 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:34:46 +0200 Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <4797917B.4020600@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cairn.ints.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20080123 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 In-Reply-To: <4797917B.4020600@gmail.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: VM Options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:35:03 -0000 Jack Barnett wrote: > > Are there any good VM Options for FreeBSD? > > There is VMWare in ports; which I really like - but it's a few years old > and still stuck on version 3 the last time I tried it. > > Are there any other options available? One more word for qemu. Works much faster with kqemu-kmod. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 08:43:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D05616A41B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DF313C4E7 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1J4WVUs045926 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:32:31 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id m1J4WTgW080030; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:32:29 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:32:29 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200802190432.m1J4WTgW080030@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: kamikaze@bsdforen.de In-reply-to: <47B95F78.2060604@bsdforen.de> (message from Dominic Fandrey on Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:35:36 +0100) References: <200802181025.m1IAPdHc060834@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <47B95F78.2060604@bsdforen.de> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Get the empty space on a file system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:43:26 -0000 > > 2) knowing the file system from 1), how to check the remaining space > > in the file system? > > You normally just start writing and deal with the errors that come from full > file systems when they show up. The C functions set errno accordingly. > > The reason is that the system lies about the remainig space. Weather there > is any space left you may use, depends on the user you're running your > program as. It would be kinda stupid if your program didn't work because the > disk was full, even when you're running as root and are permitted to use the > remaining safety space (8% by default). In my case, I am writing log files, so I would start with removing older logs to make space for the newer ones. That is why I refer to know before hand how much space is available, to allow some cleaning, rather than waiting for a problem. It seems that statfs is the answer. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 08:48:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E5A16A46D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFBB13C4E7 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1J8ktIm006223 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:46:57 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200802182259.40619.beech@freebsd.org> References: <200802182259.40619.beech@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:46:49 +1000 Message-Id: <1203410809.6470.72.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.404, required 4, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.40, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:48:11 -0000 On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 22:59 -0900, Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Monday 18 February 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt said: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Da Rock > > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:16 PM > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: Still looking for a calendar server... > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm currently looking into bedework now- it seems ideal, but > > > getting tomcat to work with apache is becoming a challenge. I'm > > > using mod_jk but it doesn't appear to be cooperating yet. > > > > > > What is your experience in building apache modules? The problem > > > is mainly in the mod_dav_acl module which needs xattr.h. I'm > > > wondering if we can "borrow" the headers from another source. > > > > You can borrow whatever headers you need to get the code to > > compile. You may find that it would work a lot better though if you > > change the xattr.h include to: > > > > include > > > > The problem will be in the link stage. If the libraries that you > > have linked in do not contain the functions that are defined in > > xattr.h then you will get link failures. > > > > However I don't really understand why your having problems. The > > SF page for this, here: > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/moddavacl > > > > claims: > > > > "Operating System: All POSIX (Linux/BSD/UNIX-like OSes)" > > > > This would indicate a configure script that understands > > FreeBSD is present. It sounds to me like you are not > > following the instructions included with the mod_dav_acl module > > to build it properly. What exactly are you doing? Could you > > post the steps your going through to build this? > > > > I had thought Mirosoft deprecated all the webdav stuff in > > future IIS servers - maybe there is a lack of interest in the > > industry now? > > > > Ted > > He also might want to look at Horde. You can install from > www/horde-meta and choose the kronolith module. > > >From their website: > > "The Kronolith calendar provides a robust web-based calendar for any > number of users or groups, with the ability to show any number of > calendars in a single overlaid view. Users can create any number of > calendars and grant read, edit, or full permissions to any user, > group, or any combination thereof." > > Beech > I understand what you're saying about the usability of the code acroos platforms, however, the code will only work on systems which support extended attributes, it must have that header file, and the developer has refused to build for anything beyond debian (God knows why!). It has been pointed out in the forums there (Only 3 postings and that includes myself... hmmm. What does that tell you?) that while the sourceforge system says its cross platform that it doesn't work cross platforms, and so should be corrected- and that person was building for bsd too. So, where does that leave us? Incidentally, since when do we care what BS Microcrap is doing with their toy servers? (I've had plenty of crap go on with MS and their systems, my laptop manufacturer only supports them and gives me curry every time I ask for warranty, and MS cancelled my hotmail account to boot. Apparently I transgressed, but I haven't, I have important emails I can't access now, and their system has no way to contact me with a reply as to what I've done- life is wonderful!) The question remains is does kronolith provide caldav access for evolution, and does it connect via apache? I'm currently trying to get bedework working, but I'm having trouble linking Tomcat 6 and Apache (Bedework appears to fit all these criteria that I require). I can access Tomcat directly, and Apache is ok, I checked the config for the mod_jk and I think its working, but when I try to navigate to Tomcat via Apache I get a 404 from Tomcat. Does anyone know how to fix this? It seems I have the connector working and there is something in Tomcat to configure but I don't know what. Thanks for the feedback guys- its all been helpful. I hope I'll have an answer soon which I'll post back, and maybe make up a how-to, package or port. Keep it all coming... Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 08:57:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B3B16A4C1 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:57:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grigorian@theconcept.ru) Received: from geiser.theconcept.ru (geiser.theconcept.ru [62.141.91.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3E613C447 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:57:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grigorian@theconcept.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by geiser.theconcept.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5F83F407; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:41:21 +0300 (MSK) X-Virus-Scanned: Redeemer AV Received: from geiser.theconcept.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (geiser.theconcept.ru [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7tRvyvDiWjpi; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:41:18 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (ppp91-77-167-251.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [91.77.167.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by geiser.theconcept.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64543F406 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:41:18 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <47BA962E.5060504@theconcept.ru> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:41:18 +0300 From: "s.g." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: GELI encryption and HDD critical temperature X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:57:44 -0000 Guys, I notice occasional overheating of my GELI-encrypted hard drives followed by the reboot. This happens when there is heavy activity on the drive - eg when trying to dump partitions. There are 4 drives i have, three encrypted and fourth is plaintext. According to smartctl -a, the temperature of the encrypted drives is ~59C. The temperature of the unencrypted drive is, however, ~41C, according to the same smartctl -a. All the four drives in question are Seagate ST3400620AS/3.AAC, GELI encryption is default AES, no data authentication. This is on 6.2-RELEASE-p8. Am I right assuming GELI encryption is the reason for such a "global warming"? Thanks in advance, Grigorian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 09:05:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC2116A421 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hubaghdadi@yahoo.ca) Received: from web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D2F013C45A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hubaghdadi@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 32156 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Feb 2008 08:39:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=LjzpjpxKUcPe1PDxJythAwqDZncYT20LwoZQgtenRKpOJAgO4Vj9BfPs0INbLWtnYABcLDtMkKbYy4pFnF28bn6cZ9UMzMViYIGBQYBSG7mOA/yqp7Z4W6Ih8HKYb40O+H1UcHjfiesM6VI1+vX1KiRVwVEpVCFnJd89jb0f3lw=; X-YMail-OSG: F3zpa7gVM1n2LrbAEDY.inFwpzVV3KOj3XzGrwT30F.3rtiR7Gakkj12OonsZwhe9U_rsRdz0eZ1h._bXqcOiPE76wOM_P3o2.zy8VNeXNrda_jBo7l6_cf3dhHJneYI6ETksXWH_NfZkQ-- Received: from [82.137.247.10] by web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:39:03 PST Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:39:03 -0800 (PST) From: Lone Wolf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <832931.30894.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:05:45 -0000 Hi. I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Thanks. Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 09:13:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FFA16A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D929113C4CC for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1J9DYpK058341 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:13:34 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id m1J9DYW6083802; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:13:34 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:13:34 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200802190913.m1J9DYW6083802@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: hubaghdadi@yahoo.ca In-reply-to: <832931.30894.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> (message from Lone Wolf on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:39:03 -0800 (PST)) References: <832931.30894.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:13:37 -0000 > I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. > --- > Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH > RAM: 192 MB > --- > Is my hard ware sufficient? Sufficient to do what? Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 09:13:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2B816A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8241113C4D5 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:57208 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JROXg-0000vA-5N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:13:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 26815 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 10:13:32 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 19 Feb 2008 10:13:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 7396 invoked by uid 1001); 19 Feb 2008 10:13:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:13:32 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Lone Wolf Message-ID: <20080219091332.GA7383@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Lone Wolf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <832931.30894.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <832931.30894.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JROXg-0000vA-5N. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JROXg-0000vA-5N 04a1b019c346caf5693a8a171352af7b Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:13:37 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:39:03AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: > Hi. > I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. > --- > Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH > RAM: 192 MB > --- > Is my hard ware sufficient? > Thanks. Yes, that is more than enough to run FreeBSD. Depending on what you want to do you might want to invest in more RAM, but unless you intend to run several memory-hungry applications at the same time you should not have a problem. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 09:19:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED81416A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C338813C4EA for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1J9HS92002306; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:17:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1J9HOtY002303; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:17:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:17:24 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lone Wolf In-Reply-To: <832931.30894.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080219101645.D2264@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <832931.30894.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:19:13 -0000 > Hi. > I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. > --- > Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH > RAM: 192 MB > --- > Is my hard ware sufficient? pentium 75 with 32MB RAM is sufficient for FreeBSD to work well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 09:19:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D38416A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hubaghdadi@yahoo.ca) Received: from web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36ED513C458 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hubaghdadi@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 44892 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Feb 2008 09:19:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=uYR48+LF6D3HVj+PNgQCEjw4lt+r/nBngfviFrPiHFjE64OauYpU8VCY3wNEc6VBwW4XaSDtg/p+iHrgDnLyYAfyb3Lv96pfsUBUz90cxdCDJV7wZooDrRZ0toW2GRNqwaNvLO7LEBB0pAaPxX9U5pbo/JWqi4H/9NrALF8gM8M=; X-YMail-OSG: ZEnVBr4VM1ncCT7uOgWTOUHKrRhu8x_fn9FDggFBGre9YPHuxdkOPEM3W6lsybSHlg-- Received: from [82.137.247.10] by web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:19:51 PST Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:19:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lone Wolf To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200802190913.m1J9DYW6083802@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <212671.41590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:19:52 -0000 I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive with FreeBSD . Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? Thanks demons! Olivier Nicole wrote: > I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. > --- > Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH > RAM: 192 MB > --- > Is my hard ware sufficient? Sufficient to do what? Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. Olivier Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 09:21:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0148616A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:21:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CA313C4E8 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JROee-0007er-24 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:21:03 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JROea-0007eY-UE; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:20:45 -0700 Message-ID: <47BA9F69.5000707@math.arizona.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:20:41 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lone Wolf References: <832931.30894.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <832931.30894.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:21:04 -0000 Lone Wolf wrote: > Hi. > I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. > --- > Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH > RAM: 192 MB > --- > Is my hard ware sufficient? > Thanks. > Sufficient for what? What do you want to run on that computer? A workstation? A firewall? A mail server? Apache? Assuming you want to run a work station I would recommend at least 256Mb or RAM. The more is the better. Your BIOS would probably see up to 512Mb RAM. CPU speed is more than enough . I would use at lest 6Gb HD for a work station. You computer would with above specifications would make a great thin client, firewall, home made router or DNS server. Cheers, Predrag > Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. > E.A Poe > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 09:29:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9038016A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu (math051.cs.arizona.edu [150.135.82.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB0C13C4D1 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JROnI-0003Rq-Mw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:29:45 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JROk8-0003RW-5g; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:26:28 -0700 Message-ID: <47BAA0B3.4040408@math.arizona.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:26:11 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lone Wolf References: <212671.41590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <212671.41590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:29:46 -0000 Lone Wolf wrote: > I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive with FreeBSD . > Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? > Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? > Vanilla FreeBSD doesn't come bundled with anything. But, yes you may install GNOME, KDE, Xfce or any of the light window manager for X. Unless you have at least 256 Mb of RAM and 10Gb HD I would not think about the GNOME. > Thanks demons! > > Olivier Nicole wrote: > I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. > >> --- >> Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH >> RAM: 192 MB >> --- >> Is my hard ware sufficient? >> > > Sufficient to do what? > > Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with > something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. > > I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. > > Olivier > > > > Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. > E.A Poe > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 09:30:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185E916A46C for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 741E513C46B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Feb 2008 09:30:06 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO bobcat.edu) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp048) with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 10:30:06 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/OdppelXTOViT4fXrZ8qyKb094K+9fGvJWd+cdpe tI/4ZCcVkNZ20a Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:34:01 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080219103401.f850dee7.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <212671.41590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <200802190913.m1J9DYW6083802@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <212671.41590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Organization: private X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:30:09 -0000 Should be more then enough with the graphic card. My desktop comp is an AMD Duron 1,2Ghz, 512MB ram and the graphic card has 32MB. X11 makes 1280x1024 in truecolor mode without much effort (is a good graphic card what is integrated in the mainboard, SIS-chip). Can watch videos and dragging windows without delay and so on. So nothing to worry about.. Cheers herbs On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:19:51 -0800 (PST) Lone Wolf wrote: > I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive with FreeBSD . > Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? > Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? > Thanks demons! > > Olivier Nicole wrote: > I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. > > --- > > Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH > > RAM: 192 MB > > --- > > Is my hard ware sufficient? > > Sufficient to do what? > > Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with > something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. > > I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. > > Olivier > > > > Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. > E.A Poe > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 09:32:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD12B16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C76113C4F2 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 17565 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 09:32:49 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 19 Feb 2008 09:32:47 -0000 Message-ID: <47BAA234.5020300@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:32:36 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lone Wolf References: <212671.41590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <212671.41590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:32:52 -0000 Hi, Lone Wolf wrote: > I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive with FreeBSD . I run it on a smaller machine than this but with more RAM. > Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? This sounds like an overkill. I would say anything from 4MB onwards will be fine. > Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? Not in that sense. But you can choose to install GNOME during the first installation. I would recommend to install a plain FreeBSD without X first. If you have a good Internet connection, just add the ports than as binary packages. If your Internet connection is not this good, install whatever you want from CD. Install only the missing pieces in the third step via Internet. Erich > Thanks demons! > > Olivier Nicole wrote: > I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. >> --- >> Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH >> RAM: 192 MB >> --- >> Is my hard ware sufficient? > > Sufficient to do what? > > Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with > something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. > > I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. > > Olivier > > > > Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. > E.A Poe > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 09:35:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0DF16A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9319313C43E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 22074 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 09:35:35 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 19 Feb 2008 09:35:32 -0000 Message-ID: <47BAA2DE.9080008@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:35:26 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "s.g." References: <47BA962E.5060504@theconcept.ru> In-Reply-To: <47BA962E.5060504@theconcept.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GELI encryption and HDD critical temperature X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:35:38 -0000 Hi, this problem is caused by how the drives are installed in the machine. Can you add a fan? Erich s.g. wrote: > Guys, > I notice occasional overheating of my GELI-encrypted hard drives > followed by the reboot. > This happens when there is heavy activity on the drive - eg when trying > to dump partitions. > There are 4 drives i have, three encrypted and fourth is plaintext. > According to smartctl -a, the temperature of the encrypted drives is > ~59C. The temperature of the unencrypted drive is, however, ~41C, > according to the same smartctl -a. > All the four drives in question are Seagate ST3400620AS/3.AAC, GELI > encryption is default AES, no data authentication. This is on > 6.2-RELEASE-p8. > Am I right assuming GELI encryption is the reason for such a "global > warming"? > Thanks in advance, > > Grigorian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 10:04:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E2516A46B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDCC13C46E; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <47BAA996.1000501@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:04:06 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lenny@edpausa.com References: <51345.216.254.116.226.1203391042.squirrel@mail.edpausa.com> In-Reply-To: <51345.216.254.116.226.1203391042.squirrel@mail.edpausa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libc5 on freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:04:08 -0000 lenny@edpausa.com wrote: > after several years of relatively trouble free system ( 5 > 6.3 ) and port > upgrades, I started having some issues with timesieved daemon of cyrus > imap. > nothing in the software configuration has changed, but the cyrus port was > recently upgraded ( around the same time that the system was upgraded from > 6.2 to 6.3 ) > > the only thing that looks suspicious is the fact that most ( or all ) > cyrus binaries are linked to both libc5 and libc6. in fact, after some > digging around, I discovered that many other binaries on the system seem > be linked to both libraries. I suspect that libc5 is the remnant of 5x > installation. > > What's the safest thing to do ? > > remove libc5 and link libc5 to libc6 ? > > rebuild affected software ? ( couldn't find a relevant make.conf option, > so what might a flag like that look like ? WITH_LIBC_VER=6 ? You have to recompile all your installed ports as part of your upgrade to a new version of FreeBSD (e.g. 5.x -> 6.x, 6.x -> 7.x, etc). The only reason this is necessary is to prevent this kind of problem from creeping in as you incrementally rebuild your ports over time. Binaries linked to incompatible or inconsistent sets of libraries like two different versions of libc will behave unpredictably and may crash. No special care needs to be taken when recompiling, just make sure to recompile everything (portupgrade -fa or -faPP or similar). Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 10:04:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B689F16A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:04:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F312A13C46A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1JA2EMG002463; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:02:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1JA27dT002459; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:02:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:02:07 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Erich Dollansky In-Reply-To: <47BAA234.5020300@pacific.net.sg> Message-ID: <20080219110045.F2445@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <212671.41590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <47BAA234.5020300@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Lone Wolf , Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? 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I get a pcidata error when trying = to startx. Used to work great on 6.2. Do I have to instal Xorg manually wit= h 6.3? --Joe > > I upgraded by accident to 6.3 and did not even notice any = difference.> > I started csup with the intent to patch 6.2 but upgraded the= sources to > 6.3, compiled, installed and rebooted without any problems.> = > I know, but it happend this way.> > X kept on working.> > Erich I'm having trouble with a fresh build of 6.3. When I try to Xorg -configu= re I get an error stating that the module pcidata is missing. this is ind= ependent of the hardware I try this on. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 10:43:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC0D16A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valerio.daelli@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF1B13C45E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valerio.daelli@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so3358159waf.3 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:43:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=Fyc5vpKvyR9e35bQVItGLRRqNzr4259y1n3as4GvFmY=; b=gOq8x2WDgOHGTqVmPQG3OxoVEspaB0ojpps1SoN2vChypjuDsZGfVW7dAFW1mQCHR9KlVVBa6Kwlnekh4JtblGoxUK1qwH++v5kxyNx+O6KPylpNphLWO3X5GWmz7g5M+TQBZOj5JVgNpgTz6Ztj7LMj3dT7UWGi+XK0c9aIiBQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=gaOemS+kY5cghk5cQ1YnlCubV9t1a0HvgtGRmLF5X3SmEs0vtB3onWPUndet1ncNbZZsRLytOusLfM9MqAuZ0CsidN+5eXFPQz6NcViRJVN6B3qCndQpBOL2TiRa27j1PvZBQfrfgeEsuaxD7SqNqlS1lmQ8VubnUaPng9zXQPY= Received: by 10.114.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr4403462wae.127.1203417786450; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.113.14 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:43:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <27dbfc8c0802190243y113d3059yd0c602850a4dbd6b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:43:06 +0100 From: "Valerio Daelli" To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Bad performance of 7.0 nfs client with Solaris nfs server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:43:07 -0000 Hi list we have a FreeBSD 7.0 NFS client (csup today, built world and kernel). It mounts a Solaris 10 NFS share. We have bad performance with 7.0 (3MB/s). We have tried both UDP and TCP mounts, both sync and async. This is our mount: nest.xx.xx:/data/export/hosts/bsd7.xx.xx/ /mnt/nest.xx.xx nfs noatime,async,-i,rw,-T,-3 Both our server (7.0 and Solaris 10) are Gigabit Ethernet, both are HP Proliant DL360 i386 (NIC bge0): --- FreeBSD 7.0: [eldon@bsd7 ~]$ uname -a FreeBSD bsd7.xx.xx 7.0-RC2 FreeBSD 7.0-RC2 #1: Mon Feb 18 17:46:46 CET 2008 root@bsd7.xx.xx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BSD7 i386 --- This is our performance with iozone: command line: iozone -+q 1 -i 0 -i 1 -n 2048 -g 2G -Raceb iozone.xls -f /mnt/nest.xx.xx/iozone.bsd7/iozone.tmp FreeBSD 7: File stride size set to 17 * record size. random random bkwd record stride KB reclen write rewrite read reread read write read rewrite read fwrite frewrite fread freread 2048 1024 109883 101289 769058 779880 2048 2048 3812 3674 760479 767066 4096 1024 111156 106788 724692 728040 4096 2048 3336 2241 157132 733417 4096 4096 2829 3364 699351 699807 As you can see, while with record length less than 1024KB the speed is 'fast', with record of 2048 or more (I've tried with record much bigger) we get only 3 MB/s. Is this a known issue? If you need more details please contact me, I am willing to do more tests to risolve this problem. Thanks Valerio Daelli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 10:50:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DF516A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6497B13C45E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:50:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1JAmcB9002691; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:48:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1JAmTGW002688; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:48:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:48:29 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lone Wolf In-Reply-To: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:50:25 -0000 > Hi. > How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu? by not being linux at all. 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To unsubscribe click here: http://e.swearch.com/t/380703/10097909/63/0/?u= =3DaHR0cDovL2Uuc3dlYXJjaC5jb20vdT9pZD0xMDA5NzkwOS4wYjM4MDEwMWEyZTU4ZTE5ZDc4O= TkxOGI5ZTkxYzJlNiZuPVQmbD1zdy0yJm89MzgwNzAz&x=3D0678a696 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 11:20:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9434F16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D2613C43E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1JBIRIa065424 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:18:29 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:18:22 +1000 Message-Id: <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.399, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.40, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:20:03 -0000 On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 11:48 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Hi. > > How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu? > > by not being linux at all. FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is more of a desktop. That said, because it is a server its a hell of a lot more stable. I know of an old server that was up for over a year and half without rebooting. That has its drawbacks in that the fancy software like in some multimedia takes longer to become available, but as an X box it'll run better than others. For reference, FreeBSD doesn't run linux software- it uses different software distributions. But it can run some using a built in emulator- but not off the bat, it has to be installed the "BSD way". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 11:21:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4741C16A420 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91A5113C4D9 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 25799 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 11:21:22 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 19 Feb 2008 11:21:20 -0000 Message-ID: <47BABBA6.2060303@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:21:10 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: takhoos@hotmail.com References: <47BA56A6.6080603@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.3 Xorg issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:21:25 -0000 Hi, what happens if you simply start X without any configuration? My X runs only if I do not specify a mouse in the configuration file. I also have had to create the file by hand. Erich takhoos@hotmail.com wrote: >> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:10:14 +0800> From: oceanare@pacific.net.sg> = To: takhoos@hotmail.com> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: = FreeBSD 6.3 Xorg issues> > Hi,> > takhoos@hotmail.com wrote:> > Anyone el= se having issues getting Xorg working with 6.3? I get a pcidata error whe= n trying to startx. Used to work great on 6.2. Do I have to instal Xorg m= anually with 6.3? --Joe > > I upgraded by accident to 6.3 and did not eve= n notice any difference.> > I started csup with the intent to patch 6.2 b= ut upgraded the sources to > 6.3, compiled, installed and rebooted withou= t any problems.> > I know, but it happend this way.> > X kept on working.= > > Erich > I'm having trouble with a fresh build of 6.3. When I try to Xorg -con= figure I get an error stating that the module pcidata is missing. this = is independent of the hardware I try this on. I will try to load Xorg m= anually tonight to see if this fixes anything... =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail=AE-ge= t your "fix". > http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx_______________________________= ________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg" >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 11:46:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB8F16A47D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:46:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scupikidyanzt@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7852A13C566 for ; 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[1]L+X+Zj K+#N%! #M% L+# R+#J+T+ #T+ ShR+W+N% M+T+#R+X+T+ B+T+W+K+N+J+T+H+ ShL+ S+J+G+L+ ShX+M+W+N% B+E+R+W+Zj 2 - H+T+W+K+N+J+T+ T+E+L+H+ B+Q+R+W+B+ L+#T+R+. K+T+B+H+ ShL+M+H+ E+L+ ShR+W+N% R+W+B+J+N+ShTjJ+J+N% W+P+R+W+J+Q+Tj B+J+J+B+M+#S+TjR+ B+M+G+Z+J+N% "E+W+L+M% H+#J+ShH+" - G+J+L+J+W+N% X+G+. W+G+M%, #M% #T+H+ K+W+T+B+ B+P+W+R+W+M% ShL+N+W+, J+T+K+N% W+ShR+W+N+J+ E+N+T+H+ E+L+ Sh#L+T+K% B+TjW+R+ H+Q+B+W+E+ ShL+H+ B+M+G+Z+J+N% L+G+B+R+J+M% - MAXIM L+H+R+ShM+H+ L+S+M+J+N+R+ "J+E+D+J+M% W+T+Q+ShW+R+T+" L+Q+B+J+E+T+ #J+M+W+N%/J+J+E+W+Zj #J+ShJ+ #W+ B+K+L+ Sh#L+H+ #X+R+T+, N+J+T+N% L+H+T+Q+ShR+ #L+J+N+W+ J+ShJ+R+W+T+ L+M+ShR+D+ - 03.6912699 / 077.2070600 B+J+N% H+ShE+W+T+ 11:00 W+E+D+ 19:30 B+E+R+B+ / L+#X+R+ ShE+W+T+ H+M+ShR+D+ - N+J+J+D+J+M%- L+W+R+J+N% - 050.4905070 #W+R+J+#L+ - 050.3905070 M+B+ZJE+ L+B+W+G+R+J+ S+M+J+N+R+ "J+E+D+J+M% W+T+Q+ShW+R+T+" - [2]L+X+Zj K+#N% N+ShL+X+ B+#M+ZJE+W+T+ M+E+R+K+T+ [3]R+B+-M+S+R+ [4]L+P+R+J+D+H+ M+H+R+ShJ+M+H+ #W+ E+D+K+W+N% P+R+TjJ+M% References 1. http://www.allbiz.co.il/babemaster/Page26369.asp?cat=1115&id=8348 2. http://www.allbiz.co.il/babemaster/Page26369.asp?cat=1115&id=6010 3. http://responder.co.il/ 4. http://cp.responder.co.il/responder.php?id=c1b7fdb78fb5dd3dbb8433e019326898&lang=he&mid=12884 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 11:53:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E869116A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:53:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBD513C4E3 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1JBpHLY002858; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:51:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1JBpDPZ002855; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:51:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:51:13 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Da Rock In-Reply-To: <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Message-ID: <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:53:34 -0000 >> >> by not being linux at all. > > FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it is just unix - it depends from the user how it's being used. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 12:14:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C284216A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548D113C467 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1JCDiS5023004 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:13:49 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:13:39 +1000 Message-Id: <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.395, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.41, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:14:02 -0000 On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 12:51 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> > >> by not being linux at all. > > > > FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is > FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it is just unix - it depends > from the user how it's being used. True. But looking at it from a newbie point of view the statement helps give it perspective. I have to translate for people all the time and I know this works. We all know that FreeBSD whoops linux's ass, but as to how it does this is beyond most newer users. :P From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 12:21:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E7616A421 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:21:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wouter@fizzyflux.nl) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9B713C4E5 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:21:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wouter@fizzyflux.nl) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id h53so1826519hsh.11 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:21:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.249.20 with SMTP id w20mr4625048rvh.225.1203423658325; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.133.15 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:20:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:20:58 +0100 From: "Wouter Oosterveld" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <904190.99482.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: what is the meaning of "optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:21:01 -0000 > "/storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" This is not an error. It probably means the ramdisk changed it's allocation policy from preserving time to conserving space. Something what would happen if the data on it gets relatively (against available mem) big. I guess. Regards, Wouter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 12:26:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CE716A474 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenny@edpausa.com) Received: from skywalker.edpausa.com (mail.edpausa.com [67.88.41.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6696413C469 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenny@edpausa.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.edpausa.com [127.0.0.1]) by skywalker.edpausa.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1292C966A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:26:29 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at edpausa.com Received: from skywalker.edpausa.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (skywalker.edpausa.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yKOlLzKU7i5k for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:26:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.edpausa.com (localhost.edpausa.com [127.0.0.1]) by skywalker.edpausa.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D63C963D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:26:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.254.116.226 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lenny) by mail.edpausa.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:26:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <50020.216.254.116.226.1203423985.squirrel@mail.edpausa.com> In-Reply-To: <47BAA996.1000501@FreeBSD.org> References: <51345.216.254.116.226.1203391042.squirrel@mail.edpausa.com> <47BAA996.1000501@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:26:25 -0500 (EST) From: lenny@edpausa.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: libc5 on freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:26:30 -0000 Thank you for your response, but it doesn't really help with the situation, besides the software I'm talking about has been recompiled many time over since the upgrade. Just to make sure, I recompiled again and it linked to both libc5 and libc6 right away. That's my issue. > lenny@edpausa.com wrote: >> after several years of relatively trouble free system ( 5 > 6.3 ) and >> port >> upgrades, I started having some issues with timesieved daemon of cyrus >> imap. >> nothing in the software configuration has changed, but the cyrus port >> was >> recently upgraded ( around the same time that the system was upgraded >> from >> 6.2 to 6.3 ) >> >> the only thing that looks suspicious is the fact that most ( or all ) >> cyrus binaries are linked to both libc5 and libc6. in fact, after some >> digging around, I discovered that many other binaries on the system seem >> be linked to both libraries. I suspect that libc5 is the remnant of 5x >> installation. >> >> What's the safest thing to do ? >> >> remove libc5 and link libc5 to libc6 ? >> >> rebuild affected software ? ( couldn't find a relevant make.conf option, >> so what might a flag like that look like ? WITH_LIBC_VER=6 ? > > You have to recompile all your installed ports as part of your upgrade > to a new version of FreeBSD (e.g. 5.x -> 6.x, 6.x -> 7.x, etc). The > only reason this is necessary is to prevent this kind of problem from > creeping in as you incrementally rebuild your ports over time. Binaries > linked to incompatible or inconsistent sets of libraries like two > different versions of libc will behave unpredictably and may crash. No > special care needs to be taken when recompiling, just make sure to > recompile everything (portupgrade -fa or -faPP or similar). > > Kris > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 12:27:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38D116A496 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:27:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@ono.com) Received: from resmaa05.ono.com (smtp.ono.com [62.42.230.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5044913C4D1 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@ono.com) Received: from 62.43.33.212.dyn.user.ono.com (62.43.33.212) by resmaa05.ono.com (7.3.118.8) id 47BA0B3D0009B0FC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:27:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c872f1-c0ac6980-d4212b3e@ono.com> From: ben@low.mv.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:20:02 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Sendmail 8.12.11/8.12.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: =?windows-1251?b?8eDz7eAg4u7x8u737eD/?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:27:43 -0000 - Kruglosutochnaya on-lajn konsul'taciya u professional'nyh vrachej, po vsem interesuyuschim Vas voprosam - V udobnoj i legkoj forme, Vy smozhete poluchit' informaciyu o lyuboj interesuyuschej Vas bolezni - U nas sobrana polnaya informaciya o vseh suschestvuyuschih lekarstvennyh preparatah - Smozhete bystro opredelit' svoyu bolezn' po simptomam .... vsya interesuyuschaya Vas informaciya po zabolevaniyam i ih profilaktiki teper' sobrana na nashem [1]portale "Zdorovaya Tema". 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[3]www.ztema.ru References 1. http://ztema.ru/ 2. http://ztema.ru/ 3. http://ztema.ru/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 12:59:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8E016A49C for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arek@wup-katowice.pl) Received: from poczta.wup-katowice.pl (poczta.wup-katowice.pl [195.39.216.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD9313C442 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arek@wup-katowice.pl) Received: from poczta.wup-katowice.pl (localhost.wup-katowice.pl [127.0.0.1]) by poczta.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04E37E81D; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:41:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (gw1.wup-katowice.pl [195.39.216.231]) by poczta.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3AB7E81B; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:41:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BACD6B.6010106@wup-katowice.pl> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:36:59 +0100 From: Arek Czereszewski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lone Wolf , Liste FreeBSD References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for MailServers 5.5.33/RELEASE, bases: 19022008 #530381, status: clean Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: arek@wup-katowice.pl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:59:28 -0000 Lone Wolf pisze: > Hi. > How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu? > Thanks. > If you'd like use FreeBSD on desktop, try DesktopBSD[1]. I use FBSD on server last 8 years. On workstations also, but last time I tried DesktopBSD and I really like it :) If you would like try Freebsd without installation get Freesbie[2] (Live CD with FreeBSD) [1] http://www.desktopbsd.net/ [2] http://www.freesbie.org/ Regards Arek -- Arek Czereszewski "UNIX allows me to work smarter, not harder." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 13:14:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEC416A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hubaghdadi@yahoo.ca) Received: from web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4CBC13C44B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:14:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hubaghdadi@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 76128 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Feb 2008 13:14:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=PwgpmZDqUfYknZ8G7Rh3IZX6GC4kYEfjWixtC/DNyTCgcwaFvAHhn1q0pqT1FNIGOYgd1A/Y2pYE6oslrRIyUxPk5Qokhp11d0DbJp/S+AT0wunP7e2/R19Vsu6H4yBo+BtF2fEALJCdGk5eX+JBdMxBaXvxFoVZv4MU0gcJiic=; X-YMail-OSG: Hh.m.a0VM1mkif6sFGMFkZBgT0bqejPSV6V7EKWuKD5c0KiQG4t8p3KYcf5GPtBgXTva0M9hw6DIzxY84Bmfoo4pWhP7hD9GikeDLXaVbIXNkyI- Received: from [82.137.247.10] by web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:14:45 PST Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:14:45 -0800 (PST) From: Lone Wolf To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:14:47 -0000 But according to Wikipedia, FreeBSD is able to run Linux compatible software without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6) I can't run Linux software on FreeBSD? Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Hi. > How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu? by not being linux at all. NTG Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 13:24:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CCC16A41B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BF113C447 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.38] (a89-182-73-80.net-htp.de [89.182.73.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA692A44529 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:24:21 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:24:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802191424.33132.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:24:24 -0000 Am Dienstag, 19. Februar 2008 14:14:45 schrieb Lone Wolf: > But according to Wikipedia, FreeBSD is able to run Linux compatible > software without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6) I can't > run Linux software on FreeBSD? _Running_ Linux software and _being_ Linux(-based) are two completely different things. FreeBSD runs (most) Linux (and glibc based) software, but is a completely different (and mostly unrelated) codebase wrt. to the libc and the kernel. The distinction is pretty much the same with Wine: Wine can run Windows binaries (mostly), but because of that it still isn't Windows. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 13:26:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1DF16A474 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F99C13C468 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC4E405480; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:26:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BAD8DA.1060900@bsdforen.de> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:25:46 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lone Wolf References: <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:26:22 -0000 Lone Wolf wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Hi. >>> How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu? >> >> by not being linux at all. > > But according to Wikipedia, FreeBSD is able to run Linux compatible software without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6) > I can't run Linux software on FreeBSD? You need to install a minimal Linux environment that contains the libraries your Linux software is linked to emulators/linux_base-fc4. You also need to load the Linux compatibility module: # kldload linux or for permanent use add: linux_load="YES" to your /boot/loader.conf file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 13:35:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F48D16A46C for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A1213C4D9 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Feb 2008 08:35:09 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id OLA95929; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Feb 2008 08:33:59 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18362.56078.951095.162984@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:35:10 -0500 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <47ba7e1f.UDwudqHevRDrsQ8d%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <47ba7e1f.UDwudqHevRDrsQ8d%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: wine: notepad OK, others not X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:35:09 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com writes: > I have installed wine-0.9.20 from ports, and > there's a Win98 FAT32 slice mounted on /windoze > How do I fix this? I would start by upgrading and re-installing wine. You have 0.9.20; the current version is 0.9.55 and I believe there have been substantial improvements. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 13:38:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8595A16A46C for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brrab@yandex.ru) Received: from smtp11.yandex.ru (smtp11.yandex.ru [213.180.223.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38E013C474 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brrab@yandex.ru) Received: from 70-204-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net ([92.113.204.70]:16542 "EHLO brom.homemachine.homemachine" smtp-auth: "brrab" TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S1246485AbYBSNGR (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:06:17 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp11 X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1203426377 X-MsgDayCount: 1 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp11.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: brrab Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:06:17 +0200 From: brom To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219150617.5ee21d7b@brom.homemachine.homemachine> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: version of syslogd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:38:16 -0000 Hello, I have a short question, how I can determinate version of syslogd? FreeBSD 6.2 I need version for resolve some issues. Thanks in advance! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 13:46:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F3316A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02D013C45B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:46:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from [147.87.128.108] (helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRSo4-0004Fh-Da; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:46:48 +0100 Message-ID: <47BADDB2.3080008@gahr.ch> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:46:26 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080208) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brom References: <20080219150617.5ee21d7b@brom.homemachine.homemachine> In-Reply-To: <20080219150617.5ee21d7b@brom.homemachine.homemachine> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://www.gahr.ch/pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF9DC70A8DB2CE7E2689A9C3F" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: version of syslogd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:46:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF9DC70A8DB2CE7E2689A9C3F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable brom wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have a short question, how I can determinate version of syslogd? > FreeBSD 6.2 By looking at the source code, just below the copyright note: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c?rev=3D= 1.144.2.3;content-type=3Dtext%2Fx-cvsweb-markup;only_with_tag=3DRELENG_6_= 2 >=20 > I need version for resolve some issues. > Thanks in advance! Hope this helps, --=20 Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --------------enigF9DC70A8DB2CE7E2689A9C3F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAke63bYACgkQwMJqmJVx9470tgCgkmnsmqnPabX/TCyyT94HJR5m RZEAoNeTqkvbWuKz7wzxEYx6Rk3P6Bfz =+58O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF9DC70A8DB2CE7E2689A9C3F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 13:55:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B904316A420 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkp@mtmary.edu) Received: from fear.mtmary.edu (mailinglist.mtmary.edu [208.24.226.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D10A13C45D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:55:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkp@mtmary.edu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (war.mtmary.edu [172.16.0.200]) by fear.mtmary.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D02B834BA; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:55:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <47BADFCC.5020603@mtmary.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:55:24 -0600 From: Peter Clark User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz References: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> In-Reply-To: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:55:28 -0000 Ryan Jenkins wrote: > Hello, > > I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD Operating > System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. Right now I am > having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture that can make a system > that uses FreeBSD. I currently have found a product from MPC or > Micron/Gateway that creates systems with no Operating System, but my > programmers are having a hard time with getting the software loaded on the > system. Can you please help me find a supplier that builds Desktop or > All-in-One computers that will operate FreeBSD. > > > > Ryan Jenkins > > P.O. Box 21138 > P: 406 896-9900 > F: 406 896-0045 > C: 406 208-8193 > Email: > rjenkins@centurygaming.biz > > > I have had very good experiences with FreeBSD Systems (now called freedomtc). http://www.freedomtc.com/ Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 13:58:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E5E16A46B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D7613C465 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so668866nfb.33 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:58:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qp0lNyA9Am4kZMUX3yDjGukhWMnyTS5jxkABBbEKBeI=; b=iUJtOLmDxGcp0QyYe8gS2DzotA7MremthtHHGnbFFEbh3tlYud3Z1Zg4lOHe72ytoOzQ/WFcHph75XM5YPRVs3Iedo1F/z/7/96obAV3kBN5sXHqmMdJc7fZcT/QsNup0wDH7/ZEVr1vV06i5PXdqw1Fy1OP+w/zZPbrptDeM6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Fl5CpGqiUnYhS8i06wDPdO4HOWdMMB3+FKJ5cFeYKBql8m4nfyrFaNeDDVR4iRfWaqi/4TOg1lo9rFf0qhC9nFGPZBQaGQ/LOE3J6jSnzbB3aRxb9CvPOrcjJgikQw+4DPIFccFp/TjONAMWJJo48jEP5yWMIs4awt48zTfGyP0= Received: by 10.150.138.8 with SMTP id l8mr2511048ybd.72.1203429479892; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:57:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.148.8 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:57:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1563a4fd0802190557l46bd6984x29e8f04b1ceed311@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:27:59 +0530 From: "navneet Upadhyay" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Dominic Fandrey" In-Reply-To: <47BA7A91.8060707@bsdforen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> <47B9A31B.7060602@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802180813l7d80cb4en9adfd838f4591712@mail.gmail.com> <47B9C8D8.5060807@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802182115xf64b634yd361a78ba0c8ff68@mail.gmail.com> <47BA7A91.8060707@bsdforen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:58:02 -0000 Binary compiled on 32 bit not running on 64 bit machine. Actually i am using *sysctl* call and the *kinfo_proc* structure from user.hin include/sys , size of structure on 32bit is 768 and on 64 bit is around 1180 and thats why the call is failing and application coredumping. Can anyone tell how do we handle this situation??? Is there any way or i have to compile my code on 64 bit machine?? Keep in mind there can be many such structure.. Thanks, Navneet On 2/19/08, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > > navneet Upadhyay wrote: > > On 2/18/08, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > >> navneet Upadhyay wrote: > >>> On 2/18/08, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > >>>> navneet Upadhyay wrote: > >>>>> Hi , > >>>>> For our product we generally compile the binaries on 32 bit > >>>> systems > >>>>> and use them for both 32 and 64 bit systems. like we have same > >> binaries > >>>> for > >>>>> 32 bit and 64 bit RHEL. > >>>>> > >>>>> We are porting the product to FreeBSD and when we tried the same, > >>>>> i.erunning binaries compiled on 32 bit FreeBSD > >>>>> 6.2 on 64 bit FreeBSD system they produce *core dump.* > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Any known reasons, do we have to compile binaries on 64 bit machine. > >>>> This should not happen. I would blindly guess at a linking problem. > Are > >>>> you > >>>> using any shared libraries that do not belong to the base system? > >>>> > >>> Yes i am using few libs not built on FreeBSD but they work fine on 32 > >> bit > >>> freeBSD , so in principle they shud have the same behavior on 64 one. > >> I suppose you are aware that they have to be 32-Bit libraries as well, > for > >> your 32-Bit application to work? > >> > > I didnt get what do you mean. > > > > Do you mean : > > > > I should install lib32 on freeBSD and then rebuild my applications in > order > > to make it work on 32 and 64 bit systems . > > > > rite now I have built my app on 32 bit system (which is not having lib32 > > installed), it works on 32 bit freebsd but fails on 64 bit system. > > The app needs 32-Bit libraries tu run on 64 Bit. I suggest you link your > program statically against libraries that are not part of the base system. > That way everything should run just fine. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 14:10:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D7916A46E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300B113C468 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1JE8JFe003584; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:08:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1JE8CLu003581; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:08:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:08:12 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: navneet Upadhyay In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802190557l46bd6984x29e8f04b1ceed311@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080219150754.M3580@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> <47B9A31B.7060602@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802180813l7d80cb4en9adfd838f4591712@mail.gmail.com> <47B9C8D8.5060807@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802182115xf64b634yd361a78ba0c8ff68@mail.gmail.com> <47BA7A91.8060707@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802190557l46bd6984x29e8f04b1ceed311@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Dominic Fandrey , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:10:45 -0000 > > Can anyone tell how do we handle this situation??? > > Is there any way or i have to compile my code on 64 bit machine?? what's a problem to compile on 64-bit machine? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 14:14:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5B716A421 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:14:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7257413C442 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1JECpex003601; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:12:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1JECnIL003598; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:12:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:12:49 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: brom In-Reply-To: <20080219150617.5ee21d7b@brom.homemachine.homemachine> Message-ID: <20080219151223.H3580@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080219150617.5ee21d7b@brom.homemachine.homemachine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: version of syslogd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:14:29 -0000 > > I have a short question, how I can determinate version of syslogd? > FreeBSD 6.2 it is part of FreeBSD 6.2, there are no versions for it's components From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 14:16:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C68E16A469 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:16:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A994E13C4DB for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1JEDqjC003608; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:13:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1JEDoW0003605; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:13:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:13:50 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" In-Reply-To: <200802191424.33132.wundram@beenic.net> Message-ID: <20080219151335.E3580@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200802191424.33132.wundram@beenic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:16:11 -0000 >> software without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6) I can't >> run Linux software on FreeBSD? > > _Running_ Linux software and _being_ Linux(-based) are two completely > different things. FreeBSD runs (most) Linux (and glibc based) software, but > is a completely different (and mostly unrelated) codebase wrt. to the libc > and the kernel. > > The distinction is pretty much the same with Wine: Wine can run Windows > binaries (mostly), but because of that it still isn't Windows. fortunately it isn't both windows and linux. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 14:17:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A92E16A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9EE13C4CE for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JRTHz-0002hm-Qa for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:17:43 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:17:43 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:17:43 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:19:57 +0100 Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <20080219150617.5ee21d7b@brom.homemachine.homemachine> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7703C0CB398D9B46983C488F" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) In-Reply-To: <20080219150617.5ee21d7b@brom.homemachine.homemachine> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: version of syslogd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:17:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7703C0CB398D9B46983C488F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable brom wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have a short question, how I can determinate version of syslogd? > FreeBSD 6.2 >=20 > I need version for resolve some issues. > Thanks in advance! For the binary: > ident /usr/sbin/syslogd | grep syslogd /usr/sbin/syslogd: $FreeBSD: src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c,v 1.144.2.3 2006/06/29 21:22:30 julian Exp $ the version on this system is 1.144.2.3 --------------enig7703C0CB398D9B46983C488F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHuuWNldnAQVacBcgRAo8iAJ47qHKDuoYhQhYTON4QvqUiaTVAAwCgytpt OaqF+lnJeMuLyoZwGScv3/s= =3DSV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7703C0CB398D9B46983C488F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 14:18:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C323816A421 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7868B13C447 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1JEIS0M099270 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:18:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <47BAE536.70002@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:18:30 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20080219054620.GA33050@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20080219054620.GA33050@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: thankee, thankee! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:18:36 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Giorgos, Joe, Paul , and Tim, > > Thanks for your insights today, gentlemen. I began on what may be a very > worthwhile [ and reasonably small, *thankfully*] program that may benefit > everybody who reads text online. Or off, for that matter. I was using > a shareware version that kept annoying me to shovel $$$ their way when I > finally got PO'd enough to do my own version. The algorithm comes first, > naturally. Then the data structs|classes|. ---I do prelim > coding while I'm planning; helps me figure things out. > > GUI: yes, I will need help with eventually; for now, going back and forth > from that tts app, KTTSmgr(?) and the other shareware, I kept improving > the dickens out of my thesis. Soooo.... see what happens. No offense > to those of us who have hacked out man pages or other docs, but I'm > pretty sure that using these tools will inddeed help improve the online > documentation _considerably_. > > > gary > > > Before you go down this road too far, you should take a look at Python as an implementation language. If what you're doing involves text and string manipulation, Python is loaded with good modules that will make your task a snap. Having coded extensively in many assemblers, C, BASIC, ... I now find myself reaching exclusively for Python when writing applications and utilities unless the task at hand must have the performance of native C. Try it ... you'll be shocked how fast your program comes together. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 14:22:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8FA16A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A98913C45A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: FROM dell1 (Unknown [141.211.15.39]) BY hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 47BAE632.B877A.20826 ; 19 Feb 2008 09:22:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:20:47 -0500 From: William Bulley To: Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <20080219142047.GB27411@dell1> Mail-Followup-To: Tim Daneliuk , Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: thankee, thankee! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:22:46 -0000 According to Tim Daneliuk : > > Before you go down this road too far, you should take a look at Python > as an implementation language. If what you're doing involves text and > string manipulation, Python is loaded with good modules that will make > your task a snap. Having coded extensively in many assemblers, C, > BASIC, ... I now find myself reaching exclusively for Python when > writing applications and utilities unless the task at hand must have > the performance of native C. Try it ... you'll be shocked how fast > your program comes together. Might the same not be said for Perl? Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 14:23:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0A916A474 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5834F13C45B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRTNT-0001wQ-U3; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:23:26 +0000 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.184.33]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRTNT-0001oQ-7R; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:23:23 +0000 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1JEMsWI077255; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:22:54 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m1JEMsuc077254; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:22:54 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:22:54 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219142254.GA77217@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, leoz.2005@gmail.com References: <20080201111805.GA7580@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080201111805.GA7580@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: leoz.2005@gmail.com Subject: port net/acx100 for usr5410 pcmcia wireless FBSD 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:23:27 -0000 I tried to contact the port maintainer, but haven't heard anything back. I'd like to use US Robotics usr5410 wireless pcmcia card on my FBSD 6.3 laptop. I understand this card is (was?) supported by port net/acx100. However, the net/acx100/Makefile has: BROKEN= Does not compile on FreeBSD >= 6.x In addition the port maintainer's website, dev.kewl.org, states that acx100 is obsolete, and was replaced by acx100+111. However, there is no FBSD port for acx100+111. Is anybody using net/acx100? On what version of FBSD? Is anybody using acx100+111? What is the best way to install it? Is anybody using usr5410? With what driver? And what version of FBSD? Any other advice on getting usr5410 working on FBSD 6.3? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 14:29:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEFF16A421 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A416513C4E9 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1JETHV7031100 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:29:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <47BAE7BF.3060602@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:29:19 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20080219142047.GB27411@dell1> In-Reply-To: <20080219142047.GB27411@dell1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: thankee, thankee! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:29:23 -0000 William Bulley wrote: > According to Tim Daneliuk : >> Before you go down this road too far, you should take a look at Python >> as an implementation language. If what you're doing involves text and >> string manipulation, Python is loaded with good modules that will make >> your task a snap. Having coded extensively in many assemblers, C, >> BASIC, ... I now find myself reaching exclusively for Python when >> writing applications and utilities unless the task at hand must have >> the performance of native C. Try it ... you'll be shocked how fast >> your program comes together. > > Might the same not be said for Perl? > > Regards, > > web... > > -- > William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu You bet, Perl is terrific. But, Perl is also harder to maintain and less readable in the long run (IMHO and many others' too). Language wars are silly, of course, one uses the right tools for the right job. But as I said, having programmed fairly widely over the years, I find Python the single most productive language I've ever used. I never ceased to be amazed at how quickly I get to a correct and finished program. I am further amazed when I pick it up a year later and it still is crystal clear and understandable. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 14:30:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2CC16A420 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB5313C45B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.38] (a89-182-73-80.net-htp.de [89.182.73.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA037A44529 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:30:16 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:30:27 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> <1563a4fd0802190557l46bd6984x29e8f04b1ceed311@mail.gmail.com> <20080219150754.M3580@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080219150754.M3580@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802191530.28256.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:30:18 -0000 Am Dienstag, 19. Februar 2008 15:08:12 schrieb Wojciech Puchar: > > Can anyone tell how do we handle this situation??? > > > > Is there any way or i have to compile my code on 64 bit machine?? > > what's a problem to compile on 64-bit machine? Ugh, there can be lots of problems, at least if the original programmers weren't careful enough to avoid the many pitfalls of "inter-architecture" development. For example, in C, the long type is 32-bits wide on i386, and 64-bits wide on amd64, whereas int is 32-bits wide on both. Take the following code: #include int main(int argc, char** argv) { int x; unsigned long y = (unsigned long)&x; printf("%x\n",y); return 0; } The formatting code "%x" expects an unsigned integer, but is given an unsigned long (which is always big enough to fit an address, that's mandated by the C standard, and so will contain the memory address of x). gcc only warns about the non-matching format-string argument when run with -Wall. On i386, this doesn't matter, as sizeof(int)==sizeof(long). On amd64, this does matter, as printing a %x will only print the low-order four bytes of the memory address, and not the upper four bytes, so that the output string will no longer be unique for object x, depending on how the virtual memory space is partitioned. Now, I've seen quite a good deal of software who do stuff similar to this (at least in spirit, by casting an address to an unsigned integer) to build (hash) tables, and they all miserably fail when compiled on amd64, simply because they presume that sizeof(int) == sizeof(long), which isn't true on amd64 anymore. If the OP's development team haven't taken care to avoid these pitfalls from the start (which I guess they didn't, simply because they are only used to developing on i386), they can be in for a real treat when trying to compile _and run_ their application on amd64. I know I've had my fair share of (re-)learning to do when initially compiling my (personal use) C++ programs on amd64. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 14:12:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DC816A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonylabarbara@aol.com) Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com (imo-m20.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C7F13C459 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonylabarbara@aol.com) Received: from tonylabarbara@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.c28.2bbebeff (37033); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail-dd20 (webmail-dd20.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.20]) by cia-db02.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB023-90a947bae3da241; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:12:42 -0500 References: <8CA405E73C8956B-9DC-24CB@WEBMAIL-MA05.sysops.aol.com> <47B9B118.3060402@locolomo.org> To: norgaard@locolomo.org Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:12:42 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 190.166.0.125 In-Reply-To: <47B9B118.3060402@locolomo.org> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI Received: from 190.166.0.125 by webmail-dd20.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.20) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:12:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: tonylabarbara@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34032-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CA4118A04B3CF8-E90-5D9@webmail-dd20.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:37:41 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My Rebuild Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:12:50 -0000 In line... -----Original Message----- From: Erik Norgaard To: tonylabarbara@aol.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:23 pm Subject: Re: My Rebuild Problem tonylabarbara@aol.com wrote:=C2=A0 > Hi:=C2=A0 > I wrote earlier, got one response. It was way off course, so I=C2=B4m rewr= iting. No, I can rebuild X11 if I can solve the following problem:=C2=A0 > > Strange problem here. /usr/local got wiped for no reason I can think of.= Everything. Nothing there at all. I can=C2=B4t > even change the pw. Nothin= g on this build anyway. But went to rebuild (6.2) and > got caught in a loop= -- note, that=C2=B4s a loop -- in these steps:=C2=A0 > -- Select Drive=C2=A0 > > -- FDISK Partition Editor ("Q")=C2=A0 > > -- Install Boot Manager=C2=A0 > > I would prefer to rebuild (note: rebuild) because I want to add X Window= s (that=C2=B4s ADD X) and I=C2=B4d rather not > have to rebuild the kernel.=20= How can I wipe the drive? If I cannot rebuild, can I > just add the ports? W= hat about changing pw?=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > 1) I'm not sure what you mean about "rebuild" - I wouldn't ever need fdisk= or install boot manager for that - are you reinstalling? Are=20 > you using sysinstall for recovery?=C2=A0 I was=C2=A0just going to reinstall. There is nothing important on the hd. =C2=A0 > 2) Are you having an error that gets you into single user or similar? Mayb= e you can't change the password because your root partition is=20 > mounted read only.=C2=A0 No. I can log in. I just can't change pw. =C2=A0 > Post the output of this command:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > # mount=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > For example, when my root partition is read-only, I get=C2=A0 > /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local, read-only)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > and also post output from,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 > # df=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I can do this at home...not now. I can post the output next time I'm online,= which could be tomorrow or as late as Saturday. Thanks, Tony ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.= aol.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 15:09:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C77616A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:09:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5D013C459 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so1496249uge.37 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:09:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=dDYtf1UvRe6qNHC8EHI5nLMt4ltJF09nCxhpvx266Fk=; b=nf7cW2YYEe3TwTU3YezwWT7GCAGPbPOiInopEYM48HmYlDInJgnmXt4IAQCgapuFkDFEPDb8FuIyXDIS+Re0ZzYt1YX7wG0mlWGfHBOkGk+4c1+lTDz80kDwG9wdQ6P64Za1tkYBrCn6pzpMfKPf4B075lE16MHGS7pX6X7ZH8A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nsqGAQo9kjNACzYFII2ERGVHVVdwIs2AFOibhj/6DWpOCH4mMM2mYoNcrnBfpnLsJqIz8+0biiUIMBWFw+Fu5QcATO2DRPt8v7fdnP+9ldPLoEh3Qpg86EyL3C3llpU7/NqqsbKmQ0yY3uG/2atVJTspBc2tFEw88FHacN+zUqg= Received: by 10.150.230.2 with SMTP id c2mr2523772ybh.161.1203433746104; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.148.8 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:09:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1563a4fd0802190709x101c3cc8rc1910aa5b6958ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:39:06 +0530 From: "navneet Upadhyay" To: "Wojciech Puchar" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080219150754.M3580@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1563a4fd0802180712w476125a4x229cc38509016b94@mail.gmail.com> <47B9A31B.7060602@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802180813l7d80cb4en9adfd838f4591712@mail.gmail.com> <47B9C8D8.5060807@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802182115xf64b634yd361a78ba0c8ff68@mail.gmail.com> <47BA7A91.8060707@bsdforen.de> <1563a4fd0802190557l46bd6984x29e8f04b1ceed311@mail.gmail.com> <20080219150754.M3580@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: 32 bit and 64 bit freebsd binary compatiblty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:09:11 -0000 a machine will be required (always) , i think i figured it out , ineed to compile them using *amd64 *instead of i386 . On 2/19/08, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > > Can anyone tell how do we handle this situation??? > > > > Is there any way or i have to compile my code on 64 bit machine?? > > what's a problem to compile on 64-bit machine? > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 15:14:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5223616A41B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21ECA13C45D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cele.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.172]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1JFET5Q018178 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:14:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <47BAF276.2050809@brianwhalen.net> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:15:02 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <904190.99482.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <904190.99482.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: what is the meaning of "optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:14:39 -0000 ivan dimitrov wrote: > After upgrading from freebsd-5.5-R to 6.3-R, I get the following message in dmesg: > > "/storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" > > I use a ram disk via the md driver. > Here is the line from my fstab file: > > md /storage/pub/www/ram mfs rw,-s4m 2 0 > > Does this mean that there is some sort of error? ...and is there anything that can be done, so that I don't get this message in dmesg? > > Any help will be greatly appreciated :) > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > When I have seen this error in the past, the partition in question is near or at capacity. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 15:21:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F5516A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B4813C45E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA77EBC3B; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:21:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:21:18 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Brian Message-Id: <20080219102118.45e8b5d4.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <47BAF276.2050809@brianwhalen.net> References: <904190.99482.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <47BAF276.2050809@brianwhalen.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is the meaning of "optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:21:20 -0000 In response to Brian : > ivan dimitrov wrote: > > After upgrading from freebsd-5.5-R to 6.3-R, I get the following message in dmesg: > > > > "/storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" > > > > I use a ram disk via the md driver. > > Here is the line from my fstab file: > > > > md /storage/pub/www/ram mfs rw,-s4m 2 0 > > > > Does this mean that there is some sort of error? ...and is there anything that can be done, so that I don't get this message in dmesg? > > > > Any help will be greatly appreciated :) UFS normally optimizes file placement for performance. Unfortunately, in order to do this it has to write files in such a way that it sometimes wastes some space. When the partition gets close to full, FreeBSD automatically switches to "space optimization" which doesn't waste any space, but doesn't perform as well. The short answer is, "This is happening because your partition is too close to full. It's not an error, but you should clean up some files or add space." It also has nothing to do with the difference between 5.5 and 6.3. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 15:24:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CAD16A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BBB13C4E9 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id h53so1873378hsh.11 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:24:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=jxYyW/D5h2jO80OonciskZLLhb644qGJcc1iDU3GFYs=; b=XnswD/QeAnhb0OmSjiA0urgvDp6JZ1S4/ft9GBIPpK3g9O019DihuD+ShefCydsudjXkcIwnq1MJ+l2rG56D3xVJyjCi4CryG2xYlhC1ciyUMAaGRqIcQAf6HR0T/A5Atba14QuMsDOmWPcYMHO7iP1XmHxX9eGV5roioE5XNSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=Hol14CiyU5sJOEbezyMo/I3QM7Kmp0td4got1PnN9zdfcG1NTFxHR/3VyQBHKG8drsvMmHDjiqQ3MboCBVDylLetpTLnGS16XXwVoU6KLwknCVfm0o570lNz+OqL2C1zWm5rrLReCTFZ9e4tcmq0Jxgu7AyqVQXIQHQ7SQ+t3X8= Received: by 10.141.163.12 with SMTP id q12mr4743789rvo.190.1203433097560; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.madambakam.org ( [59.92.86.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b21sm3974308rvf.34.2008.02.19.06.58.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.madambakam.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 58C7839FF5C; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:28:12 +0530 (IST) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:28:12 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219145812.GB26569@saraswathy.madambakam.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080219142047.GB27411@dell1> <47BAE7BF.3060602@tundraware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47BAE7BF.3060602@tundraware.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: Re: thankee, thankee! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:24:02 -0000 On 08:29:19 Feb 19, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > You bet, Perl is terrific. But, Perl is also harder to maintain and > less readable in the long run (IMHO and many others' too). Language > wars are silly, of course, one uses the right tools for the right > job. But as I said, having programmed fairly widely over the years, > I find Python the single most productive language I've ever used. > I never ceased to be amazed at how quickly I get to a correct and > finished program. I am further amazed when I pick it up a year later > and it still is crystal clear and understandable. Couldn't resist saying that I plan to take a stab at lua. It seems to be a wonderfully agile and powerful language - the new kid off the block. :) http://www.lua.org However I do not have any experience with it to say anything further. Hopefully that will change one day soon. -Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 15:26:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5C016A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (aleph.cepheid.org [72.232.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9FC13C4EA for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:26:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 410DA9B4003; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:26:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:26:42 -0600 From: Erik Osterholm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219152642.GA48858@aleph.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:26:43 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 02:39:26AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: > Hi. > How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu? > Thanks. Others have answered this sufficiently, but I wonder if this shouldn't be made into a FAQ item. It's certainly asked enough. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 15:33:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E01516A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:33:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E69E13C44B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:33:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1JFTlco045873; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:29:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1JFTlNK045872; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:29:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:29:47 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20080219152947.GA45840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:33:51 -0000 On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 11:19:57PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Ryan Jenkins > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:20 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!!!! > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD Operating > > System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. Right now I am > > having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture that can make a system > > that uses FreeBSD. > > Hi Ryan, > > Please go here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html > > Several of the hardware vendors on this list can supply you with > ready-to-run FreeBSD workstations and servers, loaded to your > specifications. Very good link. Covers all the ones I know of and a lot more. ////jerry > > Ted Mittelstaedt > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 15:38:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0109A16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscartheduck@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F51C13C458 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oscartheduck@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so1510455uge.37 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:38:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GBuMeAWn5QfMSn5JV03w5Yyhsl60BuGz/GcVJ6zB3UA=; b=aBHi4fOEn9m99fonVdAged5GG4KQWAn1BpeIdhoZU8CRs0QFP628QQhwkHAsL1VMCqv8M0J16DsOCzf6euBtOOxE1MFaH0VEPl7f6hdVeQZQ7dWduWd0p5xlNAXmX3jNmurtXkdf7YOEL+8as63X7DMlErWxs10N8hkscTsuE3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=nbmrVP3ydQPByxPL7TEizo820WIrjfKJP+jHyitSZwnI7ud2T91dGYnLx/03NTW+YI5IqK9mQ4OGw7y1Cqzm9DLBcOlPAisuN43NjzZTO9FAfztiYlk1c081mkbZXxKXcf/SxEiRend/9ry4wn3h66MeW2iQP/ybimLtfc4x2fk= Received: by 10.142.237.20 with SMTP id k20mr5417166wfh.112.1203435478710; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.104? ( [68.35.151.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 29sm18455846wfg.9.2008.02.19.07.37.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:37:57 -0800 (PST) From: James To: Erik Osterholm In-Reply-To: <20080219152642.GA48858@aleph.cepheid.org> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219152642.GA48858@aleph.cepheid.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:37:56 -0700 Message-Id: <1203435476.6209.0.camel@pclmills> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: oscartheduck@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:38:05 -0000 On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 09:26 -0600, Erik Osterholm wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 02:39:26AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: > > Hi. > > How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu? > > Thanks. > > Others have answered this sufficiently, but I wonder if this shouldn't > be made into a FAQ item. It's certainly asked enough. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/funnies.html#VERY-VERY-COOL Seems pretty authoritative. > Erik > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 15:40:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1920F16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+TI=b5960406@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE34913C458 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+TI=b5960406@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB67164690 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:20:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7C623E4C9 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:20:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:20:43 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219152043.35556e9a@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:40:25 -0000 On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:14:45 -0800 (PST) Lone Wolf wrote: > But according to Wikipedia, FreeBSD is able to run Linux compatible > software without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6) I > can't run Linux software on FreeBSD? Linux emulation is for running Linux binaries - it's mostly used for proprietary closed-source software. Most so-called Linux software is really UNIX software and will run natively on FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 15:49:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEE416A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-107.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-107.bluehost.com [69.89.22.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FD4213C46B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 14797 invoked by uid 0); 19 Feb 2008 15:49:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by xmail.bluehost.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 15:49:30 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRUio-00054C-GL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:49:30 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:49:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:49:29 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:49:31 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 10:13:39PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 12:51 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >> > > >> by not being linux at all. > > > > > > FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is > > FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it is just unix - it depends > > from the user how it's being used. > > True. But looking at it from a newbie point of view the statement helps > give it perspective. I have to translate for people all the time and I > know this works. > > We all know that FreeBSD whoops linux's ass, but as to how it does this > is beyond most newer users. :P The way you phrased it makes it sound like FreeBSD is simply unsuited to use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this from a Thinkpad laptop with FreeBSD on it, and it's by far the best "desktop" OS I've ever had the pleasure to use. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Thomas McCauley: "The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he would never be found out." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 15:57:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225F916A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb5:7e66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90A0B13C461 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from lux.student.utwente.nl (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.170.81]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1JFvq3x016857; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:57:53 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:57:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080219142047.GB27411@dell1> <47BAE7BF.3060602@tundraware.com> <20080219145812.GB26569@saraswathy.madambakam.org> In-Reply-To: <20080219145812.GB26569@saraswathy.madambakam.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802191657.52685.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Subject: Re: thankee, thankee! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:57:59 -0000 On Tuesday 19 February 2008, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On 08:29:19 Feb 19, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > > You bet, Perl is terrific. But, Perl is also harder to maintain and > > less readable in the long run (IMHO and many others' too). Language > > wars are silly, of course, one uses the right tools for the right > > job. But as I said, having programmed fairly widely over the years, > > I find Python the single most productive language I've ever used. > > I never ceased to be amazed at how quickly I get to a correct and > > finished program. I am further amazed when I pick it up a year later > > and it still is crystal clear and understandable. > > Couldn't resist saying that I plan to take a stab at lua. It seems to be > a wonderfully agile and powerful language - the new kid off the block. It is indeed, however that power comes at a price. Especially when working with classes lua is more like a meta programming language. Also, lua lacks support for integer data types, as everything numeric is a double. Lua will excel as an addon language for scripting other programs. IMO writing complete standalone programs is better done with one of the more complete (library wise) languages like python, perl or java. > > :) > > http://www.lua.org > > However I do not have any experience with it to say anything further. > > Hopefully that will change one day soon. > > -Girish -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 15:59:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6174416A420 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DA813C46E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1JFt3Ys046020; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:55:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1JFt3RI046019; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:55:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:55:03 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Lone Wolf Message-ID: <20080219155503.GC45840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <832931.30894.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <832931.30894.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:59:06 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:39:03AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: > Hi. > I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. > --- > Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH > RAM: 192 MB > --- > Is my hard ware sufficient? > Thanks. Sure. How much disk do you have available? You might want to look at the hardware compatibility page for the version you intend to install, on the FreeBSD web site ////jerry > > Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. > E.A Poe > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 16:02:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2943916A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6BA13C469 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1JFwAwa046048; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:58:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1JFwASk046047; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:58:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:58:10 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Lone Wolf Message-ID: <20080219155810.GD45840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200802190913.m1J9DYW6083802@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <212671.41590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <212671.41590.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:02:29 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:19:51AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: > I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive > with FreeBSD . > Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? I suppose it depends on the graphics card model, but probably. Check that hardware compatibility list. In this case it would be compatibility with Xorg since that is the display/graphics system. > Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the special options during a standard installtion. > Thanks demons! That is daemon, not demon. There is a big difference. ////jerry > > Olivier Nicole wrote: > I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. > > --- > > Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH > > RAM: 192 MB > > --- > > Is my hard ware sufficient? > > Sufficient to do what? > > Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with > something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. > > I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. > > Olivier > > > > Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. > E.A Poe > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 16:06:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207AF16A420 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA4B13C4E9 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1JG2cHR046092; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:02:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1JG2c84046091; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:02:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:02:38 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ken Palm Message-ID: <20080219160238.GE45840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <0300.0326.8743.0454.7726@securethatdomain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0300.0326.8743.0454.7726@securethatdomain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: We've discounted the freebsdnewbie.com domain name for you... 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Main Street > Davenport, IA 52801 > > The above message is an ad > > [6]http://www.securethatdomain.com/mailer/unsubscribe.php?Email=questi > ons@FreeBSD.org > > References > > 1. https://secure.securethatdomain.com/buy.php?domain=freebsdnewbie.com&type=3&tld=org&flags=sp > 2. https://secure.securethatdomain.com/buy.php?domain=freebsdnewbie.com&type=3&tld=org&flags=sp > 3. https://secure.securethatdomain.com/buy.php?domain=freebsdnewbie.com&type=3&tld=org&flags=sp > 4. https://secure.securethatdomain.com/buy.php?domain=freebsdnewbie.com&type=3&tld=org&flags=sp > 5. https://secure.securethatdomain.com/buy.php?domain=freebsdnewbie.com&type=3&tld=org&flags=sp > 6. http://www.securethatdomain.com/mailer/unsubscribe.php?Email=questions@FreeBSD.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 16:11:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346EE16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B184313C4DD for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1JG7S7G046117; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:07:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1JG7SEA046116; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:07:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:07:28 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Erik Osterholm , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219160727.GF45840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219152642.GA48858@aleph.cepheid.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080219152642.GA48858@aleph.cepheid.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:11:35 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:26:42AM -0600, Erik Osterholm wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 02:39:26AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: > > Hi. > > How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu? > > Thanks. > > Others have answered this sufficiently, but I wonder if this shouldn't > be made into a FAQ item. It's certainly asked enough. There have been extensive articles on this subject. I don't have my links conveniently available at the moment, but a brief search should turn up several There are links on the FreeBSD site and Onlamp and other places have extensive notes - both from pro FreeBSD perspectives and even some more pro Linux. But most are pretty neutral, just giving information. So, do a little searching. ////jerry > > Erik > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 16:14:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D784316A420 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-107.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-107.bluehost.com [69.89.22.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE66513C45D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 22725 invoked by uid 0); 19 Feb 2008 16:14:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by xmail.bluehost.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 16:14:05 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRV6b-0004ZY-0j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:14:05 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:14:04 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:14:04 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219161404.GB91805@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:14:05 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 05:14:45AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: > But according to Wikipedia, FreeBSD is able to run Linux compatible software without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6) > I can't run Linux software on FreeBSD? > "Linux" is technically the name of an OS kernel. FreeBSD has a different kernel -- the FreeBSD kernel. Various Linux distributions include different lineups of default basic userland software and OS infrastructure, but they tend to have a lot of the core stuff in common (in particular the GNU toolset). FreeBSD shares a few tools in common with most Linux systems (GCC, for instance), but many of the basic userland and other core system tools are developed in tandem with the FreeBSD kernel, and are specific to FreeBSD. Both Linux distributions and FreeBSD aspire (to varying degrees and in different ways) to a generalized Unix system design. FreeBSD is very much a descendant of the BSD Unix design (obviously) while Linux distributions tend more toward the SysV family of Unix. Because there is sort of a common Platonic ideal of Unix, however, they do tend to share a lot in common. Also, because Linux systems are not strictly descended from either the BSD Unix family or the SysV Unix family of operating systems, it differs from both approaches, and borrows a bit from both. It borrows a lot of code from the various BSD Unix systems, too, since three of the four major modern branches of BSD Unix are released under the BSD license. In my experience: FreeBSD tends to be more stable than Linux distributions. I'm sure some of this is attributable to the fact that the core OS is all developed as part of a greater whole, with exceptions for only a few of the core tools (like GCC). If those tools could be replaced with FreeBSD specific equivalents, or at least non-GNU equivalents, this might even improve further over Linux distributions, which are put together from collections of available software developed with no significant cooperation (other than the GNU toolset itself, whose development isn't even coordinated with Linux kernel development). FreeBSD tends to be easier to work with "under the hood" than Linux distributions. This is in large part due to the more unified design process of FreeBSD, but also seems to be a result of some other forces at work, since there are characteristics of FreeBSD system configuration and design that do not seem related to the fact it's more of a coordinated effort, but still contribute to greater ease of use. Most Linux distributions default to bash as the shell, while FreeBSD's default is (t)csh. This is a difference that occasionally catches new immigrants to FreeBSD from the Linux world off-guard. It's not a bad thing, though. For one thing, as far as I'm aware there are fewer dependencies for tcsh than for bash, so it's less likely to break if some underlying piece of software gets a bad update. Linux distributions, because they're basically just a kernel and a bunch of disparate pieces of software collected into a running whole, tend to include everything outside the kernel in a single software management system. FreeBSD differentiates between a "core" or "base" system and the ports system, which is the general software management system equivalent to the software management systems of Linux distributions. Because of this, your choice of software management system isn't so much a part of the identity of the OS you are using with FreeBSD, whereas with a Linux-based OS (aka "distribution"), your OS is differentiated from others of the same family by default install configuration, distribution project management of software archives, and the software management system. The FreeBSD community tends to be more knowledgeable and professional, and less crazy in its approach to OS advocacy, than the communities for most Linux distributions. FreeBSD documentation is some of the best OS documentation in the world. One of the reasons I made the switch is that I noticed I was actually using official FreeBSD documentation for working with my Linux-based systems as often as I was using the official documentation that came with, or from, my Linux distribution. The distro-specific documentation wasn't as good as the FreeBSD-specific documentation, and the distro-agnostic Linux-based system documentation wasn't as coherent as similar FreeBSD documentation -- even though the distro-agnostic documentation and FreeBSD's equivalent OS-nonspecific documentation was almost identical in terms of the sort of software it covered. Once in a while I miss the slightly greater manpage coverage of Debian, but for the most part FreeBSD's documentation wins without breaking a sweat. The single most stable software management system in the Linux world that I've ever used was Debian's APT. It's slightly less stable than the FreeBSD ports system, and the software tends to be a step behind FreeBSD's in terms of version numbers available, too. Hopefully that helps. It's probably more than you wanted to read. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Rudy Giuliani: "You have free speech so I can be heard." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 16:17:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF5716A468 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-107.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-107.bluehost.com [69.89.22.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEAC213C447 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 26322 invoked by uid 0); 19 Feb 2008 16:16:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by xmail.bluehost.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 16:16:59 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRV9P-0005V9-Bl; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:16:59 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:16:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:16:57 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080219161657.GC91805@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List , Tim Daneliuk , Gary Kline References: <20080219142047.GB27411@dell1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080219142047.GB27411@dell1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Cc: Tim Daneliuk , Gary Kline Subject: Re: thankee, thankee! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:17:00 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:20:47AM -0500, William Bulley wrote: > According to Tim Daneliuk : > > > > Before you go down this road too far, you should take a look at Python > > as an implementation language. If what you're doing involves text and > > string manipulation, Python is loaded with good modules that will make > > your task a snap. Having coded extensively in many assemblers, C, > > BASIC, ... I now find myself reaching exclusively for Python when > > writing applications and utilities unless the task at hand must have > > the performance of native C. Try it ... you'll be shocked how fast > > your program comes together. > > Might the same not be said for Perl? Yes . . . and Ruby. I prefer both over Python, for different reasons, personally. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Rudy Giuliani: "You have free speech so I can be heard." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 16:20:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904F216A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD3C13C442 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n40so248601gve.39 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:20:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Mgxi4t0LoCzQDg03t3V8TsoQ2zX7j6WuCQQFNK58Qc0=; b=sP1vESFw3UyVAm/qQBhRlK3pcH02WCcAzmC0ihvJfKcgJd2JaRkfkVSDsceTI/xGpxnN34ZzXs+TgGBP5yKR4DYYzysljzMAB7whABV0NTq0m9bHSu5hGb03LhV9mWs+UFhwxF9L8YEpNuDw0HUMuH9fiylteUXdw7nM2sSuR8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=t73GVasxvN3YW+8tazGVFMlPigkBA1uJpHf157JE/K9NsAzRmkbZMc1vSxEFAMEUeoIVy/F8Ts47BprXMXrPWqSUwlv4V2HlC/uFK4l/moGy0DrmI5wO1FJGR64aaor156Wv6fVTM/inwYVs4dqZiLJmddG4v8GtFBP1U4r8vpU= Received: by 10.142.174.8 with SMTP id w8mr5493738wfe.5.1203438039144; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:20:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.194.10 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:20:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90802190820k7b2358bfp74f3a08365063aef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:20:39 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 07c9bdb8419fae48 Subject: Realtek RTL8100C no drivers? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:20:45 -0000 Just got a new motherboard, which is always painful. For once, everything *but* the NIC works. NIC is supposedly a Realtek RTL8100C, but it says 1000T all over the manual, and that chip is 100T. Who knows. All the 8100 references I can find in the mailing lists are OT about snd_hda. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 16:20:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB4E16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Received: from mail.callooh.com (chello062178170039.13.14.vie.surfer.at [62.178.170.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4266E13C457 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Received: from jadzia.intern.creative.co.at (fw2.creative.co.at [193.81.98.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.callooh.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1JFgDJZ003134 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:42:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) X-Authentication-Warning: lyekka.home.callooh.com: Host fw2.creative.co.at [193.81.98.66] claimed to be jadzia.intern.creative.co.at Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:42:12 +0100 From: tequnix@frogmi.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219164212.3e6e6fdf@jadzia.intern.creative.co.at> In-Reply-To: <1203395615.6470.45.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <1203382458.6470.32.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1203383232.5883.2.camel@pclmills> <1203386041.6470.36.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1203388082.5883.6.camel@pclmills> <1203395615.6470.45.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5886/Tue Feb 19 09:09:14 2008 on lyekka.home.callooh.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.callooh.com [62.178.170.39]); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:42:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Configuring mod_jk for Apache and Tomcat X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:20:49 -0000 Am Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:33:35 +1000 schrieb Da Rock : > OK. Tomcat is working- I managed to find out how to get direct access to > it (had to uncomment a line in server.xml, web.xml). Still no Apache / > Tomcat connector though. If I navigate to /webapps it says 404 - > although this says the error comes from Apache Tomcat6. Is it the > connector config I need to play with or the Tomcat? In either case, what > do I need to change? > > I found through a search that older versions of Tomcat need to have a > listener line in the server.xml. Is this true for Tomcat6? There are two separate things to do: * configure the connector in tomcats server.xml * make apache aware of tomcats contexts (how this needs to be done depends on which connector you use) here is the relevant snippet from my server.xml (works with tomcat6 and tomcat5.*): [..] somename [..] for the httpd.conf and with mod_jk you need something like that: [..] JkMount /a_wepapp/* ajp13 [..] (if you have mappings in your web.xml. if you want to use the "invoker" servlet and skip mappings in your web.xml, you may remove the comments around that part in the tomcat/config/web.xml and use JkMount /a_wepapp/servlet/* ajp13 instead) some time ago i switched from mod_jk to apaches proxy_ajp modul (as i find it easier to maintain), the part for the httpd.conf would look like: [..] LoadModule proxy_ajp_module libexec/apache22/mod_proxy_ajp.so ProxyPass /a_wepapp ajp://127.0.0.1:8009/a_wepapp [..] HTH, reinhard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 16:39:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0019F16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander.renn@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFEC13C45D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander.renn@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so2689139pyb.10 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:39:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=LtNmtl/OglEj8cBBNtTkovViPQX+vKKwGhkCOmDGfTI=; b=FiOIGw9QlyT0rFbuX168kGomsM0P+oPtYXhfD9S18e8CEcTK0t4SNrNW0psSqJ94KcBKeIwEBUGkcNvVHT72HOoI3V/buHMqHG6vHxCQcmLvS3mqnZTCvK4hIjkLrBDVYVJG/C4WPVVq2jDToyfU/ewUNfwWZCkUAtFMEVPCDi4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=DLHROljYbXtCku66GRoBjf2w/nJVMmJ1RzIwzo6E7Y6IGTMjFZkah8Qa5lb2tWMvMfTMrs6AEb1Twu2hQ8jyBurMR7T9IVBFe+PYDz2FZYUCN5D/B39anqrfvBp8P76zSmr9guQWVS49ShnrlZask1tjG1v77vqH5MLUc7sRTVs= Received: by 10.65.40.16 with SMTP id s16mr11472401qbj.52.1203437594413; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:13:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.204.2 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:13:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:13:14 +0200 From: "Alexander Renn" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: /dev files default permissions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:39:05 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to find how to change the default permissions of files created in /dev. I want /dev/bpf* to be created with 660 permissions instead of 600. Is there another way to do this instead of: # touch /dev/bpf[n] and then # chmod /dev/bpf[n] ? -- Best regards, Zander From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 16:40:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756FB16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C32913C44B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1JGaYSI046247; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:36:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1JGaY9b046246; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:36:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:36:34 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219163634.GA46198@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219161404.GB91805@demeter.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080219161404.GB91805@demeter.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:40:37 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: Chad, A good rundown of some of the differences. Maybe you can put this on a web page and get it added to lists of comparrisons. ////jerry > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 05:14:45AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: > > But according to Wikipedia, FreeBSD is able to run Linux compatible software without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6) > > I can't run Linux software on FreeBSD? > > > > "Linux" is technically the name of an OS kernel. FreeBSD has a different > kernel -- the FreeBSD kernel. > > Various Linux distributions include different lineups of default basic > userland software and OS infrastructure, but they tend to have a lot of > the core stuff in common (in particular the GNU toolset). FreeBSD shares > a few tools in common with most Linux systems (GCC, for instance), but > many of the basic userland and other core system tools are developed in > tandem with the FreeBSD kernel, and are specific to FreeBSD. > > Both Linux distributions and FreeBSD aspire (to varying degrees and in > different ways) to a generalized Unix system design. FreeBSD is very > much a descendant of the BSD Unix design (obviously) while Linux > distributions tend more toward the SysV family of Unix. Because there is > sort of a common Platonic ideal of Unix, however, they do tend to share a > lot in common. Also, because Linux systems are not strictly descended > from either the BSD Unix family or the SysV Unix family of operating > systems, it differs from both approaches, and borrows a bit from both. > It borrows a lot of code from the various BSD Unix systems, too, since > three of the four major modern branches of BSD Unix are released under > the BSD license. > > In my experience: > > FreeBSD tends to be more stable than Linux distributions. I'm sure > some of this is attributable to the fact that the core OS is all > developed as part of a greater whole, with exceptions for only a few of > the core tools (like GCC). If those tools could be replaced with > FreeBSD specific equivalents, or at least non-GNU equivalents, this > might even improve further over Linux distributions, which are put > together from collections of available software developed with no > significant cooperation (other than the GNU toolset itself, whose > development isn't even coordinated with Linux kernel development). > > FreeBSD tends to be easier to work with "under the hood" than Linux > distributions. This is in large part due to the more unified design > process of FreeBSD, but also seems to be a result of some other forces > at work, since there are characteristics of FreeBSD system > configuration and design that do not seem related to the fact it's more > of a coordinated effort, but still contribute to greater ease of use. > > Most Linux distributions default to bash as the shell, while FreeBSD's > default is (t)csh. This is a difference that occasionally catches new > immigrants to FreeBSD from the Linux world off-guard. It's not a bad > thing, though. For one thing, as far as I'm aware there are fewer > dependencies for tcsh than for bash, so it's less likely to break if > some underlying piece of software gets a bad update. > > Linux distributions, because they're basically just a kernel and a > bunch of disparate pieces of software collected into a running whole, > tend to include everything outside the kernel in a single software > management system. FreeBSD differentiates between a "core" or "base" > system and the ports system, which is the general software management > system equivalent to the software management systems of Linux > distributions. Because of this, your choice of software management > system isn't so much a part of the identity of the OS you are using > with FreeBSD, whereas with a Linux-based OS (aka "distribution"), your > OS is differentiated from others of the same family by default install > configuration, distribution project management of software archives, > and the software management system. > > The FreeBSD community tends to be more knowledgeable and professional, > and less crazy in its approach to OS advocacy, than the communities for > most Linux distributions. > > FreeBSD documentation is some of the best OS documentation in the > world. One of the reasons I made the switch is that I noticed I was > actually using official FreeBSD documentation for working with my > Linux-based systems as often as I was using the official documentation > that came with, or from, my Linux distribution. The distro-specific > documentation wasn't as good as the FreeBSD-specific documentation, and > the distro-agnostic Linux-based system documentation wasn't as coherent > as similar FreeBSD documentation -- even though the distro-agnostic > documentation and FreeBSD's equivalent OS-nonspecific documentation was > almost identical in terms of the sort of software it covered. Once in > a while I miss the slightly greater manpage coverage of Debian, but for > the most part FreeBSD's documentation wins without breaking a sweat. > > The single most stable software management system in the Linux world > that I've ever used was Debian's APT. It's slightly less stable than > the FreeBSD ports system, and the software tends to be a step behind > FreeBSD's in terms of version numbers available, too. > > Hopefully that helps. It's probably more than you wanted to read. > > -- > CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] > Rudy Giuliani: "You have free speech so I can be heard." > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 16:41:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BB916A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECB113C4E7 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89917405493; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:41:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BB06CF.7040205@bsdforen.de> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:41:51 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Renn References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /dev files default permissions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:41:54 -0000 Alexander Renn wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to find how to change the default permissions of files created in > /dev. > I want /dev/bpf* to be created with 660 permissions instead of 600. > > Is there another way to do this instead of: > # touch /dev/bpf[n] > and then > # chmod /dev/bpf[n] > ? You want to read the devfs.rules(5) manual page. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 17:35:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5BE16A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB1913C455 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B69C65502 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:35:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:35:29 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Shell scripting question - incrementing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:35:30 -0000 I could do this in perl easily, but I'm trying to force myself to learn shell scripting better. :-) I'm parsing a file to extract some elements from it, then writing the results, embeded in long strings, into an output file. Here's the script: cat file.1 | cut -d',' -f9 | sort | uniq > file.nicks (read line; echo "alert ip \$HOME_NET any -> \$EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:\"JOIN $line detected\"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:\"JOIN\"; content:$line; sid:2000001; rev:1;)"; while read line; do echo "alert ip \$HOME_NET any -> \$EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:\"JOIN $line detected\"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:\"JOIN\"; content:$line; sid:2000001; rev:1;)"; done) < file.nicks > file.rules The result is a file with a bunch of snort rules in it (I can't provide the actual data because it's sensitive.) The rules look like this: alert ip $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:"JOIN "channel" detected"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:"JOIN"; content:"channel"; sid:2000001; rev:1;) alert ip $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:"JOIN "channel2" detected"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:"JOIN"; content:"channel2"; sid:2000001; rev:1;) Once this file is created (or ideally *while* it's being created!) I need to increment the sid numbers. The first one is 2000001. The second needs to be 2000002, and so forth. I don't know the total number of lines ahead of time, but it's easy enough to get after the file is created. (wc -l file.rules | awk '{print $1}') Is there a way to do this in shell scripting? In perl I'd use a for loop and vars, but I'm not sure how to solve this problem in shell scripting. In pseudo code I would do: COUNT=`wc -l file.rules | awk '{print $1}'` LAST_SID=$((2000000 + COUNT)) for (i=2000001; i >= ${LAST_SID}; i++) { sed 's/2000001/${i}/g < file.rules > rules.new' } -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 17:46:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD4216A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:46:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83CD13C442 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:46:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB2C405486; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:46:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BB15E7.1000907@bsdforen.de> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:46:15 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Shell scripting question - incrementing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:46:18 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > I could do this in perl easily, but I'm trying to force myself to learn > shell scripting better. :-) > > ... > > Once this file is created (or ideally *while* it's being created!) I > need to increment the sid numbers. The first one is 2000001. The > second needs to be 2000002, and so forth. I don't know the total > number of lines ahead of time, but it's easy enough to get after the > file is created. (wc -l file.rules | awk '{print $1}') > > Is there a way to do this in shell scripting? In perl I'd use a for > loop and vars, but I'm not sure how to solve this problem in shell > scripting. You can do simple integer arithmetics using expr. You'll have to realize this in a while loop: i=2000001 while [ $i -le $largest_i ]; do # insert code here i=`expr $i + 1` done From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 17:54:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C186B16A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:54:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BD813C461 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:54:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C74C228473; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:54:53 -0500 (EST) To: lenny@edpausa.com References: <51345.216.254.116.226.1203391042.squirrel@mail.edpausa.com> <47BAA996.1000501@FreeBSD.org> <50020.216.254.116.226.1203423985.squirrel@mail.edpausa.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:54:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: <50020.216.254.116.226.1203423985.squirrel@mail.edpausa.com> (lenny@edpausa.com's message of "Tue\, 19 Feb 2008 07\:26\:25 -0500 \(EST\)") Message-ID: <448x1g3k7m.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libc5 on freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:54:54 -0000 lenny@edpausa.com writes: > Thank you for your response, but it doesn't really help with the situation, > besides the software I'm talking about has been recompiled many time over > since the upgrade. Just to make sure, I recompiled again and it linked to > both libc5 and libc6 right away. That's my issue. Yes, but did you recompile all of the ports libraries that the application links to? Any of *them* could be the problem too. >> lenny@edpausa.com wrote: >>> after several years of relatively trouble free system ( 5 > 6.3 ) and >>> port >>> upgrades, I started having some issues with timesieved daemon of cyrus >>> imap. >>> nothing in the software configuration has changed, but the cyrus port >>> was >>> recently upgraded ( around the same time that the system was upgraded >>> from >>> 6.2 to 6.3 ) >>> >>> the only thing that looks suspicious is the fact that most ( or all ) >>> cyrus binaries are linked to both libc5 and libc6. in fact, after some >>> digging around, I discovered that many other binaries on the system seem >>> be linked to both libraries. I suspect that libc5 is the remnant of 5x >>> installation. >>> >>> What's the safest thing to do ? >>> >>> remove libc5 and link libc5 to libc6 ? >>> >>> rebuild affected software ? ( couldn't find a relevant make.conf option, >>> so what might a flag like that look like ? WITH_LIBC_VER=6 ? >> >> You have to recompile all your installed ports as part of your upgrade >> to a new version of FreeBSD (e.g. 5.x -> 6.x, 6.x -> 7.x, etc). The >> only reason this is necessary is to prevent this kind of problem from >> creeping in as you incrementally rebuild your ports over time. Binaries >> linked to incompatible or inconsistent sets of libraries like two >> different versions of libc will behave unpredictably and may crash. No >> special care needs to be taken when recompiling, just make sure to >> recompile everything (portupgrade -fa or -faPP or similar). >> >> Kris >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 18:00:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FB816A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1829013C467 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@gahr.ch) Received: from 80-218-191-236.dclient.hispeed.ch ([80.218.191.236] helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRWlF-00079f-Kw; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:00:09 +0100 Message-ID: <47BB1913.6070500@gahr.ch> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:59:47 +0100 From: Pietro Cerutti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080208) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://www.gahr.ch/pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF7AC71CE7BBE9E41F3299013" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gahr.ch X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Shell scripting question - incrementing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:00:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF7AC71CE7BBE9E41F3299013 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul Schmehl wrote: > I could do this in perl easily, but I'm trying to force myself to learn= > shell scripting better. :-) >=20 > I'm parsing a file to extract some elements from it, then writing the > results, embeded in long strings, into an output file. >=20 > Here's the script: >=20 > cat file.1 | cut -d',' -f9 | sort | uniq > file.nicks >=20 > (read line; echo "alert ip \$HOME_NET any -> \$EXTERNAL_NET any > (msg:\"JOIN $line detected\"; classtype:trojan-activity; > content:\"JOIN\"; content:$line; sid:2000001; rev:1;)"; while read line= ; > do echo "alert ip \$HOME_NET any -> \$EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:\"JOIN $lin= e > detected\"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:\"JOIN\"; content:$line;= > sid:2000001; rev:1;)"; done) < file.nicks > file.rules >=20 > The result is a file with a bunch of snort rules in it (I can't provide= > the actual data because it's sensitive.) >=20 > The rules look like this: > alert ip $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:"JOIN "channel" > detected"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:"JOIN"; content:"channel"= ; > sid:2000001; rev:1;) > alert ip $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:"JOIN "channel2" > detected"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:"JOIN"; > content:"channel2"; sid:2000001; rev:1;) >=20 > Once this file is created (or ideally *while* it's being created!) I > need to increment the sid numbers. The first one is 2000001. The > second needs to be 2000002, and so forth. I don't know the total > number of lines ahead of time, but it's easy enough to get after the > file is created. (wc -l file.rules | awk '{print $1}') >=20 > Is there a way to do this in shell scripting? In perl I'd use a for > loop and vars, but I'm not sure how to solve this problem in shell > scripting. >=20 > In pseudo code I would do: >=20 > COUNT=3D`wc -l file.rules | awk '{print $1}'` > LAST_SID=3D$((2000000 + COUNT)) > for (i=3D2000001; i >=3D ${LAST_SID}; i++) { > sed 's/2000001/${i}/g < file.rules > rules.new' > } >=20 for i in `jot $COUNT 2000001`; do # foo bar done --=20 Pietro Cerutti PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp --------------enigF7AC71CE7BBE9E41F3299013 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAke7GRcACgkQwMJqmJVx944QHACfaaXaSMTMobA9t0C5c0Of6Pu6 5+YAoOMbdCpcA1wBv/mSwesJId7y93ac =RJrS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF7AC71CE7BBE9E41F3299013-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 18:00:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9382216A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA4C13C46A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j2so917019tid.3 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:00:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=0qN6/AdFfubHDcJBHOw7/0Uz4pQBQCOXhXrecCqZP1Q=; b=b/L/ctKolgX06fYifsGRsCRmcqKf+NJ3S1OU1YKeZZRiY20PDqA9ecnMsBTNJWKANVg1laIxFCOxrwfDk9Ue15Pi5v4WkRtwwavlpbxmrZZeC3rWoUqSWsZyoJDnA7d/e1osa7h8jzQMTt8SwDz5GTQrFxv/C75A3PA+N6ca1Y4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=sBc9POfYOz4VgbIPHtcwKK24+pPNeHrWb0m1tpcokw4RBszMDsjRJnQJXcH6LWGbeRUT8P03ngOH9yb0JtImb+VHYshFlfRZtci87kgUOVU1WfAbnRnmulFO7nrumG3jH+mPlxMz8Ng7J2yqkLTg/LQe1nyUZXg6FENxymjZoxU= Received: by 10.110.63.6 with SMTP id l6mr4634749tia.36.1203444020372; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.70.2 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:00:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <64c038660802191000n5372e1eew73bfe9d485d36c06@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:00:20 -0700 From: Modulok To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Propagate changes to /etc/group to logged-in users? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:00:22 -0000 Assume I have users logged in and I edit /etc/group... How do I propagate the changes to /etc/group to affect currently-logged-in users? I do not want to force users to logout, just to change group memberships. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 18:08:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44C016A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omer@faruk.net) Received: from ns1.ballihost.com (ns1.ballihost.com [69.57.158.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B37613C469 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omer@faruk.net) Received: (qmail 2054 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 17:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO TRISTN0TR0573.ad5.ad.alcatel.com) (127.0.0.1) by bsd.ev1servers.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 17:55:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:07:53 +0200 From: Omer Faruk SEN X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.25) Professional Organization: FARUK.NET X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1886503997.20080219200753@faruk.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: esx 3.0.2 update1 BTX Halted issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:08:38 -0000 =0D=0A Hi, I am trying to install amd64 version of the freebsd 6.2 (also 6.3 gives the= same error). After options presented in the loader whatever I choose ( safe mode, wo acp= i...) it directly goes to BTX Halted mode. Has anyone in this list installed fbsd 6.2 or 6.3 to esx 3.0.2 update 1 ?(I= have also tried esx 3.0.2 without update 1 and has taken the same error me= ssage). If yes have you done anything special for this system ? BTW: This system is upgraded from first 2.5.4=20 Regards. --=20 Omer Faruk Sen http://www.faruk.net --=20 Best regards, Omer mailto:omer@faruk.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 18:20:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A3216A420 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omer@faruk.net) Received: from ns1.ballihost.com (ns1.ballihost.com [69.57.158.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A67C13C457 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omer@faruk.net) Received: (qmail 1898 invoked by uid 80); 19 Feb 2008 17:39:51 -0000 Received: from 85.105.4.81 (SquirrelMail authenticated user omer@faruk.net); by secure.ballihost.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:39:51 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <58126.85.105.4.81.1203442791.squirrel@85.105.4.81> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:39:51 +0200 (EET) From: "Omer Faruk Sen" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: esx 3.0.2 Update 1 and BTX halted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: omer@faruk.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:20:08 -0000 Hi, I am trying to install amd64 version of the freebsd 6.2 (also 6.3 gives the same error). After options presented in the loader whatever I choose ( safe mode, wo acpi...) it directly goes to BTX Halted mode. Has anyone in this list installed fbsd 6.2 or 6.3 to esx 3.0.2 update 1 ?(I have also tried esx 3.0.2 without update 1 and has taken the same error message). If yes have you done anything special for this system ? BTW: This system is upgraded from first 2.5.4 Regards. -- Omer Faruk Sen http://www.faruk.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 18:41:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120AA16A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9907913C4E1 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1JIf1PU061459; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:41:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 85267B8FD; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:41:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:41:01 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Alexander Renn Message-ID: <20080219184101.GA28174@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Alexander Renn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /dev files default permissions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:41:04 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 06:13:14PM +0200, Alexander Renn wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I'm trying to find how to change the default permissions of files created= in > /dev. > I want /dev/bpf* to be created with 660 permissions instead of 600. See devfs.conf(5) and devfs.rules(5). Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHuyK9EnfvsMMhpyURAuiJAJ0fm1GJquhQ5toP7aqxm1ADkXZm1QCePqei BSaRGGjWfvVPmyNnRdETo+Q= =xu8s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 18:42:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9D216A421 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C58413C4E7 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1JIfwum089161; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:41:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080219123428.02425ec8@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:41:43 -0600 To: Paul Schmehl , FreeBSD Questions From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Shell scripting question - incrementing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:42:10 -0000 At 11:35 AM 2/19/2008, Paul Schmehl wrote: >I could do this in perl easily, but I'm trying to force myself to learn >shell scripting better. :-) > >I'm parsing a file to extract some elements from it, then writing the >results, embeded in long strings, into an output file. > >Here's the script: > >cat file.1 | cut -d',' -f9 | sort | uniq > file.nicks > >(read line; echo "alert ip \$HOME_NET any -> \$EXTERNAL_NET any >(msg:\"JOIN $line detected\"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:\"JOIN\"; >content:$line; sid:2000001; rev:1;)"; while read line; do echo "alert ip >\$HOME_NET any -> \$EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:\"JOIN $line >detected\"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:\"JOIN\"; content:$line; >sid:2000001; rev:1;)"; done) < file.nicks > file.rules > >The result is a file with a bunch of snort rules in it (I can't provide >the actual data because it's sensitive.) > >The rules look like this: >alert ip $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:"JOIN "channel" >detected"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:"JOIN"; content:"channel"; >sid:2000001; rev:1;) >alert ip $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET any (msg:"JOIN "channel2" >detected"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:"JOIN"; content:"channel2"; >sid:2000001; rev:1;) > >Once this file is created (or ideally *while* it's being created!) I need >to increment the sid numbers. The first one is 2000001. The second needs >to be 2000002, and so forth. I don't know the total number of lines >ahead of time, but it's easy enough to get after the file is created. (wc >-l file.rules | awk '{print $1}') > >Is there a way to do this in shell scripting? In perl I'd use a for loop >and vars, but I'm not sure how to solve this problem in shell scripting. > >In pseudo code I would do: > >COUNT=`wc -l file.rules | awk '{print $1}'` >LAST_SID=$((2000000 + COUNT)) >for (i=2000001; i >= ${LAST_SID}; i++) { > sed 's/2000001/${i}/g < file.rules > rules.new' >} Similar to what other's have offered: for i in `cat file.rules`;do sed 's/2000001/${i}/g >> rules.new; done -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. 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References 1. 3D"http://www.elitexpo.com/RepEstimates/estimateTom.htm" 2. 3D"http://www.elitexpo.com/RepEstimates/WebEstimate-Tom.pdf" 3. 3D"mailto:tomn@elitexpo.com" 4. 3D"http://www.elitexpo.com/" 5. 3D"mailto:gregm@elitexpo.com?subject=3DEmail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 19:46:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0524616A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jester@panix.com) Received: from l2mail1.panix.com (l2mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D458013C4F9 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jester@panix.com) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by l2mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E0E5C09C for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:27:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.1.2]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9E83480B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:27:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jester@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.11.6p3/8.8.8/PanixN1.1) id m1JJR2M28819 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:27:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:27:01 -0500 From: Jesse Sheidlower To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219192701.GA28728@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Subject: Hardware RAID diagnostics (Dell PERC 6/i) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:46:40 -0000 I'm in the process of getting a new server, and have been planning on a Dell PowerEdge 1950. I see from this thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-January/039675.html That the PERC 6/i RAID controller seems to work fine with the mfi(4) driver; I was planning on a 4 x 73GB RAID5 setup, so the problems about addressing > 1TB don't seem to apply. My straightforward question is just wondering about how you get diagnostics from this device. My server will be in a remote location, so I'm curious how I would even know if a disk has failed. There wasn't anything about this in the mfi(4) manpage, nor in the RAID section of the Handbook. My current server is in a 2 x 18GB RAID1 setup, but I pretty much plugged it in and it Just Worked, and I never thought about it any more; this time I'd like to know more about how to manage it. Thanks. Jesse Sheidlower From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 19:53:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C443216A420; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8CA13C4E1; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <47BB33AD.1050005@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:53:17 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valerio Daelli References: <27dbfc8c0802190243y113d3059yd0c602850a4dbd6b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <27dbfc8c0802190243y113d3059yd0c602850a4dbd6b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-performance@freebsd.org" , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Bad performance of 7.0 nfs client with Solaris nfs server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-performance@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:53:20 -0000 Valerio Daelli wrote: > Hi list > > we have a FreeBSD 7.0 NFS client (csup today, built world and kernel). > It mounts a Solaris 10 NFS share. > We have bad performance with 7.0 (3MB/s). > We have tried both UDP and TCP mounts, both sync and async. > This is our mount: > > nest.xx.xx:/data/export/hosts/bsd7.xx.xx/ /mnt/nest.xx.xx nfs > noatime,async,-i,rw,-T,-3 > > Both our server (7.0 and Solaris 10) are Gigabit Ethernet, both are HP > Proliant DL360 i386 (NIC bge0): > > --- > FreeBSD 7.0: > > [eldon@bsd7 ~]$ uname -a > FreeBSD bsd7.xx.xx 7.0-RC2 FreeBSD 7.0-RC2 #1: Mon Feb 18 17:46:46 CET > 2008 root@bsd7.xx.xx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BSD7 i386 > > --- > This is our performance with iozone: > command line: > > iozone -+q 1 -i 0 -i 1 -n 2048 -g 2G -Raceb iozone.xls -f > /mnt/nest.xx.xx/iozone.bsd7/iozone.tmp > > FreeBSD 7: > > File stride size set to 17 * record size. > random > random bkwd record stride > KB reclen write rewrite read reread read > write read rewrite read fwrite frewrite fread freread > 2048 1024 109883 101289 769058 779880 > 2048 2048 3812 3674 760479 767066 > 4096 1024 111156 106788 724692 728040 > 4096 2048 3336 2241 157132 733417 > 4096 4096 2829 3364 699351 699807 > > > As you can see, while with record length less than 1024KB the speed is > 'fast', with record of 2048 or more (I've tried with record much > bigger) we get only > 3 MB/s. > Is this a known issue? If you need more details please contact me, I > am willing to do more tests to risolve this problem. Can you characterize what is different about the NFS traffic when FreeBSD and Solaris are the clients? Does other network traffic to the server perform well? 2048 bytes records are > the 1500 byte MTU, so you will be invoking packet fragmentation and reassembly. Maybe you are getting packet loss for some reason. What does netstat say about interface errors on the bge, and for the protocol layers? Follow-ups set to performance@ Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 20:10:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE7816A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mla@nasreddine.com) Received: from server1.nasreddine.com (server1.nasreddine.com [82.225.70.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCD313C45A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mla@nasreddine.com) Received: from localhost (server.nasreddine.info [127.0.0.1]) by server1.nasreddine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4888C2347B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:10:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at nasreddine.com Received: from server1.nasreddine.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.nasreddine.info [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id LUwKV19P2feO for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:09:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from phoenix.nasreddine.info (phoenix.nasreddine.info [192.168.1.3]) by server1.nasreddine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5702347A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:09:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:09:58 +0100 From: Wael Nasreddine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219200958.GA7193@phoenix.nasreddine.info> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080214021958.GA11647@phoenix.nasreddine.info> <47B3B61C.5080701@ongame.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47B3B61C.5080701@ongame.com.br> X-OS: Linux 2.6.24-tuxonice-r2 i686 X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.1 (2007 May 12, compiled Feb 4 2008 15:13:47) X-PGP-Key: http://wael.nasreddine.com/files/Wael_Nasreddine.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: Re: Fwd: [ Unable to compile sysutils/e2fsprogs ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:10:14 -0000 --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This One Time, at Band Camp, Vinicius Vianna said, On Th= u, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:31:40AM -0200: > Hi, > > I think something is broken with your compiler/libs, try to reinstall the= =20 > developer packages with sysinstall, or maybe a "make buildworld" to make= =20 > sure everything is ok with your system. > If someone can please help more, your logs show that basically nothing=20 > could be compiled in the ./configure section. > > HTH Hello, I tried 'make buildworld', following the comments at the beginning of this script[1], everything went smoothly during buildworld, but I still have the same issue... [1]: http://www.unixadmin.cc/freebsd_buildworld/ > Wael Nasreddine wrote: >> Hello, I have sent this email to freebsd-ports but I haven't got an >> answer could you please help me out, I need e2fsprogs because I have 3 >> External HDDs (USB, a 160, 500 and 750 Gb) and they are ext3 ( The >> reason that they are ext3 not UFS or other, is because They are USB >> Hdds, and I sometime connect them to a Linux or Windows box, and ext3 >> works nicely on windows using http://www.fs-driver.org/ if you know >> something better please do tell me... >> >> Please don't forget to read the forwarded message below which is what >> this e-mail is all about lol. >> >> ----- Forwarded message from Wael Nasreddine ----- >> >> =20 >>> From: Wael Nasreddine >>> Subject: Unable to compile sysutils/e2fsprogs >>> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org >>> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:05:52 +0100 >>> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) >>> X-OS: Linux 2.6.24-tuxonice i686 >>> X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.1 (2007 May 12, compiled Feb 4 2008=20 >>> 15:13:47) >>> X-PGP-Key: http://wael.nasreddine.com/files/Wael_Nasreddine.asc >>> Message-ID: <20080211020552.GB19613@phoenix.nasreddine.info> >>> =20 >> >> =20 >>> Hello, >>> =20 >> >> =20 >>> I'm having a problem installing e2fsprogs, as you can see in the build >>> log[1] there's something wrong with the headers... >>> =20 >> >> >> =20 >>> Thank you. >>> =20 >> >> =20 >>> [1]: http://nopaste.nasreddine.com/64acab1275.html >>> =20 >> >> ----- End forwarded message ----- >> >> =20 > --=20 Wael Nasreddine http://wael.nasreddine.com PGP: 1024D/C8DD18A2 06F6 1622 4BC8 4CEB D724 DE12 5565 3945 C8DD 18A2 =2E: An infinite number of monkeys typing into GNU emacs, would never make a good program. (L. Torvalds 1995) :. --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHuzeWVWU5RcjdGKIRAo1BAKCFrFwIX3ufOAUs9iwxHDi3GnOJkgCfewMs jHda4JIih18wRZd+F76uEGs= =DLkY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 20:15:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312E916A473 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu (math051.cs.arizona.edu [150.135.82.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CCC13C45B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JRYsM-00049w-VR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:15:39 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JRYsI-00049d-C2; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:15:34 -0700 Message-ID: <47BB38E4.9040201@math.arizona.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:15:32 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: takhoos@hotmail.com References: <47BA56A6.6080603@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.3 Xorg issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:15:40 -0000 takhoos@hotmail.com wrote: >> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:10:14 +0800> From: oceanare@pacific.net.sg> To: takhoos@hotmail.com> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.3 Xorg issues> > Hi,> > takhoos@hotmail.com wrote:> > Anyone else having issues getting Xorg working with 6.3? I get a pcidata error when trying to startx. Used to work great on 6.2. Do I have to instal Xorg manually with 6.3? --Joe > > I upgraded by accident to 6.3 and did not even notice any difference.> > I started csup with the intent to patch 6.2 but upgraded the sources to > 6.3, compiled, installed and rebooted without any problems.> > I know, but it happend this way.> > X kept on working.> > Erich >> > I'm having trouble with a fresh build of 6.3. When I try to Xorg -configure I get an error stating that the module pcidata is missing. this is independent of the hardware I try this on. I will try to load Xorg manually tonight to see if this fixes anything... > > They didn't include drivers on iso immages. Do fresh minimal installation and then add xorg with pkg_add utility. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". > http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 20:22:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0346716A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA7313C44B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 15:22:01 -0500 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1199900526.5046.132.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> References: <1199900526.5046.132.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:22:01 -0500 Message-Id: <1203452521.20967.155.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PowerEdge 860 (Resend) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:22:22 -0000 All: Here's an update on the PE860 w/ FBSD. See dmesg(8) for FreeBSD 6.3/amd64 (RC2) on PowerEdge 860 w/ Xeon & SATA: http://www.nycbug.org/?NAV=dmesgd;f_dmesg=;f_bsd=;f_nick=;f_descr=;dmesgid=1935#1935 Note that the ICH7 (Yes, still ICH7, not 8-9) is a SATA300 but the WDC Caviar run at 150 :~{ Broadcom ethernet has not changed -- is a "Broadcom BCM5750 B1, ASIC rev. 0x4101" (same as 850) The 860 is an 850 in just about every measurable aspect. At least they're shipping WDC instead of Maxtor. ~BAS On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 12:42 -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > [Sorry if this is a resend to some -- I do not see that it made it > through the first time --- possibly spam filtered due to a DNS problem > with my personal domain.] > > -- > > Hi all: > > There are scattered reports in late 2006 / early 2007 of success using > the PE 860 w/ the SAS RAID, but not w/o the RAID (normally paired with a > non-Xeon). > > Would anyone be willing to share some dmesg(8) output? W/ or w/o the > RAID PERC SAS5iR mfi(4)? RELENG_6 or RELENG_7? Post your dmesg(8) to > dmesgd at NYCBUG? > > Here's an 850 w/o RAID: > http://www.nycbug.org/?NAV=dmesgd;f_dmesg=;f_bsd=;f_nick=;f_descr=poweredge;dmesgid=1724#1724 > > I'm curious how far the 860 is from the 850? > > Presumably they replaced with bge(4) with bce(4) (They offer both add on > "BC NetXtreme II 5708 1-Port" as well as "NetXtreme 5721") and also > replaced ICH7 with ICH8 or ICH9, but I'd like to check with other > satisfied customers. > > An OpenBSD dmesg(8) suggests "Intel 82801GB IDE" > http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2007-02/0571.html > ...But that's in a model with a SAS5iR installed where the optical disk > is attache. > > The IDE controller may be different with no RAID. > > The lower-end 850 w/ the Core2 or genuine P4 non-Xeon is essentially > desktop-class hardware, so I don't imagine anything too exotic. > > TIA, > ~BAS -- Brian A. Seklecki Collaborative Fusion, Inc. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 20:26:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6DD16A420 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:26:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41B413C46E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1JKQU7c083900; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:26:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List , Tim Daneliuk Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:26:16 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080219142047.GB27411@dell1> <20080219161657.GC91805@demeter.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20080219161657.GC91805@demeter.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802191226.17164.kline@thought.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: Re: thankee, thankee! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:26:39 -0000 On Tuesday 19 February 2008 08:16:57 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:20:47AM -0500, William Bulley wrote: > > According to Tim Daneliuk : > > > Before you go down this road too far, you should take a look at Python > > > as an implementation language. If what you're doing involves text and > > > string manipulation, Python is loaded with good modules that will make > > > your task a snap. Having coded extensively in many assemblers, C, > > > BASIC, ... I now find myself reaching exclusively for Python when > > > writing applications and utilities unless the task at hand must have > > > the performance of native C. Try it ... you'll be shocked how fast > > > your program comes together. > > > > Might the same not be said for Perl? > > Yes . . . and Ruby. I prefer both over Python, for different reasons, > personally. Gotta laugh at most of this considering that I understand that we tend to favor what we're most familiar with. I've been lazing along for several years since I've gone back to school--sort of. During my last lifetime I was trapped into learning perl and forced myself to get into C++ because much of my work required these languages. Can you guys, or anybody else, point me to some comparison sites for python and ruby? I just found one abandoned freeware suite in ruby that may be just what I'm trying to do. The deal is: do I want to invest months (from 2 to 3) in learning another language/ or port from ruby to C? or take the Java functions and re-write or translate them to C? 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:45:28 -0000 I am attempting to partition a disk non-interactively using sysinstall, but I don't seem to be getting this right. I use the following script on an 80G drive: debug=true ufs=/6.2-RELEASE mediaSetUFS disk=ad0 partition=all bootManager=boot diskPartitionEditor diskPartitionWrite ad0s1a=ufs 1048576 / ad0s1b=swap 4194304 none ad0s1d=ufs 2097152 /tmp ad0s1e=ufs 16777216 /usr ad0s1f=ufs 0 /var 1 diskLabelEditor diskLabelCommit shutdown This runs without any evident error, but the relevant contents of /dev change from just ad0 to ad0, ad0s1 and ad0s1c. The first two make sense but ad0s1c is the only device I didn't request. None of the ones I did seem to appear. A boot loader does seem to have been installed but when I select "F1" for FreeBSD it says "Invalid partition" and complains that there's "No /boot/loader" to be found. So I guess the first stage got installed but not the next one? Can anyone explain why this doesn't work? I skipped the 'c' partition because that's what sysinstall wants to do when I run it interactively, but renaming the devices to include the 'c' makes no difference. There is still an s1c and nothing else. Also, I tried the syntax in the man page (ad0s1-1 instead of ad0s1a) but that -- perversely -- gives me a bunch of errors about being unable to mount partitions with the other style names. Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 20:51:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DEB16A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE20D13C46A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 798B26194; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:51:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7986187 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:51:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by torus.slightlystrange.org (8.14.2/8.13.4/Submit) id m1JKpA9x037882 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:51:10 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:51:09 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219205109.GA37705@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <64c038660802191000n5372e1eew73bfe9d485d36c06@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <64c038660802191000n5372e1eew73bfe9d485d36c06@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RC2 i386 Subject: Re: Propagate changes to /etc/group to logged-in users? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:51:14 -0000 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:00:20AM -0700, Modulok wrote: > Assume I have users logged in and I edit /etc/group... > How do I propagate the changes to /etc/group to affect currently-logged-in > users? I do not want to force users to logout, just to change group membe= rships. So far as I know, that's the only way. Any new shells they start up after your changes should pick up the new values, but I don't think it's possible to force changes out to existing sessions. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHu0E9ixf5fBYiFmoRAkRCAJ9ymopQSfvcoDfAUl8SQaClNmyCvQCeNBEb jdMClA50/UGnNqdfs2Qwsy0= =LRQY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 21:07:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E081D16A417 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F67513C467 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1JL724R045733 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:07:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <47BB44F8.6030307@tundraware.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:07:04 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20080219142047.GB27411@dell1> <20080219161657.GC91805@demeter.hydra> <200802191226.17164.kline@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <200802191226.17164.kline@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: thankee, thankee! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:07:10 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Tuesday 19 February 2008 08:16:57 Chad Perrin wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:20:47AM -0500, William Bulley wrote: >>> According to Tim Daneliuk : >>>> Before you go down this road too far, you should take a look at Python >>>> as an implementation language. If what you're doing involves text and >>>> string manipulation, Python is loaded with good modules that will make >>>> your task a snap. Having coded extensively in many assemblers, C, >>>> BASIC, ... I now find myself reaching exclusively for Python when >>>> writing applications and utilities unless the task at hand must have >>>> the performance of native C. Try it ... you'll be shocked how fast >>>> your program comes together. >>> Might the same not be said for Perl? >> Yes . . . and Ruby. I prefer both over Python, for different reasons, >> personally. > > Gotta laugh at most of this considering that I understand that we tend to > favor what we're most familiar with. I've been lazing along for several > years since I've gone back to school--sort of. During my last lifetime I > was trapped into learning perl and forced myself to get into C++ because > much of my work required these languages. > > Can you guys, or anybody else, point me to some comparison sites for python > and ruby? I just found one abandoned freeware suite in ruby that may be just > what I'm trying to do. The deal is: do I want to invest months (from 2 to 3) > in learning another language/ or port from ruby to C? or take the Java > functions and re-write or translate them to C? > > Still, first thing is to get the algorithm down and tested. > http://blog.ianbicking.org/ruby-python-power.html Basically, you'll discover that Python and Ruby do many of the same things in similar, but different ways. The OO purists like Ruby because it tends (as I understand it) to be more academically pure as an OO language. Many web apps folk also like Ruby because of the well-received Ruby-On-Rails framework. OTOH, Python is highly regarded because of its very rich library support, excellent cross-platform consistency, and ability to switch programming paradigms in mid-program. The last bears a bit of explanation. Most languages have you programing in one paradigm: imperative/procedural (Algol-derived), functional (Haskell), list processing (LISP), Object Oriented (C++, Java), etc... But here in the Real World, a single paradigm is not always a good idea. (With slight modesty, may I suggest a read of something I did a while back on this subject: http://www.tundraware.com/Technology/Bullet/ One of Python's great virtues is that it lets you "switch gears" paradigmatically in the middle of a program to use the model that best suits your problem. So for, instance, you can be doing OO programming, but quickly switch to procedural programming when the code needs to do DBMS access - a place where there has always been an OO/DBMS "impedance mismatch" in the past. As to the learning curve. If you are an experienced programmer in any decent language (C, BASIC, Java, Perl, Ruby, ...), you can learn the essence of Python in an afternoon, not weeks or months. As I said, I've been doing this for a while. Moreover, my graduate work was in languages and automata. This means I am a language dork. In several decades of fiddling around with languages, I have *never* seen one as elegant, expressive, maintainable, and efficient for the programmer as Python. No, it's not as fast as native C, but unless you're doing real time or systems programming, with good programming style and design modern hardware doesn't require you to write applications in C. In any case, you can profile Python code, figure out the small portions of it that are slow and replace them with callouts to C functions. In short, and IMHO, Python is an (almost) perfect applications/utility programming language. And I'm not alone in thinking so. The Python community is full of people who were/are C/C++, Perl, Java, LISP, ... experts who wouldn't go back to their old languages under any circumstance - Python is that good. Having said this, there is, and always will be a place for many kinds of programming languages because there are many kinds of problems and even more kinds of people. Again, with slight modesty, may I suggest this: http://www.tundraware.com/Technology/How-To-Pick-A-Programming-Language/ Cheers, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 21:27:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D79D16A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB2C13C459 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from shrimp.unsane.co.uk ([10.0.0.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m1JLSBpE034227 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:28:13 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <47BB49A3.4090206@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:26:59 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071007) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesse Sheidlower References: <20080219192701.GA28728@panix.com> In-Reply-To: <20080219192701.GA28728@panix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware RAID diagnostics (Dell PERC 6/i) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:27:03 -0000 Jesse Sheidlower wrote: > I'm in the process of getting a new server, and have been > planning on a Dell PowerEdge 1950. > > I see from this thread: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-January/039675.html > > That the PERC 6/i RAID controller seems to work fine with the > mfi(4) driver; I was planning on a 4 x 73GB RAID5 setup, so > the problems about addressing > 1TB don't seem to apply. > > My straightforward question is just wondering about how you > get diagnostics from this device. My server will be in a > remote location, so I'm curious how I would even know if a > disk has failed. There wasn't anything about this in the > mfi(4) manpage, nor in the RAID section of the Handbook. I've no experience of the 6/i but have a look at the results given by cd /usr/ports make search key=megaraid The megarc util certainly worked on older LSI megaraid controllers and I've used the linux megarc util on recent megaraid sas controllers (MegaRAID SAS 8708ELP) under centos linux Vince > > My current server is in a 2 x 18GB RAID1 setup, but I pretty > much plugged it in and it Just Worked, and I never thought > about it any more; this time I'd like to know more about how > to manage it. > > Thanks. > > Jesse Sheidlower > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 21:36:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4036F16A475 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:36:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF34613C465 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1JLWs0B047303; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:32:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1JLWs2n047302; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:32:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:32:54 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jeff Gold Message-ID: <20080219213254.GB47232@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4bded9640802191245q20832a83j31723763ab21a940@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4bded9640802191245q20832a83j31723763ab21a940@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:36:58 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 03:45:25PM -0500, Jeff Gold wrote: > I am attempting to partition a disk non-interactively using > sysinstall, but I don't seem to be getting this right. I use the > following script on an 80G drive: > > debug=true > ufs=/6.2-RELEASE > mediaSetUFS > disk=ad0 > partition=all > bootManager=boot > diskPartitionEditor > diskPartitionWrite > > ad0s1a=ufs 1048576 / > ad0s1b=swap 4194304 none > ad0s1d=ufs 2097152 /tmp > ad0s1e=ufs 16777216 /usr > ad0s1f=ufs 0 /var 1 > diskLabelEditor > diskLabelCommit > shutdown > > This runs without any evident error, but the relevant contents of /dev > change from just ad0 to ad0, ad0s1 and ad0s1c. The first two make > sense but ad0s1c is the only device I didn't request. None of the > ones I did seem to appear. A boot loader does seem to have been > installed but when I select "F1" for FreeBSD it says "Invalid > partition" and complains that there's "No /boot/loader" to be found. > So I guess the first stage got installed but not the next one? > > Can anyone explain why this doesn't work? I skipped the 'c' partition > because that's what sysinstall wants to do when I run it > interactively, but renaming the devices to include the 'c' makes no > difference. There is still an s1c and nothing else. Also, I tried > the syntax in the man page (ad0s1-1 instead of ad0s1a) but that -- > perversely -- gives me a bunch of errors about being unable to mount > partitions with the other style names. I don't know about all you ask, but the 'c' partition should always be there and be set to identify the whole slice eg start at 0 and the size be the size of the slice. The system uses it to identify some internal information about the slice. Sysinstall should handle that correctly just fine. I don't know why you do not get ad0s1a, swap, ad0s1d, etc. Maybe, if you deleted that special 'c' partition, it made the rest of the process screw up. ////jerry > > Jeff > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 21:49:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E1C16A419 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.gold@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4BA13C45D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.gold@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so785712nfb.33 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:49:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=64WI8D/CEJ6QsDQYBn2QZnNIXlApYScKvtn7pSI6wME=; b=FL/1GGKoRTJoeZsvobJTTztDbOzegof9XNfpJ2P6XZz2JSkm5/0CLluOpuaMVVxZQzAF1+FKWZosPjHnPI71pB1i03Nw3iPdOGaUcjeyMIHbei/ia7AtIBEWLrJMd1L7m51z165Ln+CjevoBrjFQGW9u19V4UVqCLpc2LiRYz0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TRw2XbOM0QPnSqVTEDx48XTmZm4uG6nY8SxS43W4ogk5MTPNeuJKyktSYcotcLTRux02UntEzyATHC4kd7Fi7MLw3qtG15wFGIHNhfrXhAzEa69CE0+uutX9eWgbBglm47J0pdPRmhk99EeOhqfEaDbhsZZeeowyTMxEKPZgM1s= Received: by 10.78.51.9 with SMTP id y9mr12311366huy.79.1203457765382; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:49:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.19.19 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:49:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4bded9640802191349p2e0f4839p52b35f94f1457ba5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:49:25 -0500 From: "Jeff Gold" To: "Jerry McAllister" In-Reply-To: <20080219213254.GB47232@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4bded9640802191245q20832a83j31723763ab21a940@mail.gmail.com> <20080219213254.GB47232@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:49:27 -0000 On Feb 19, 2008 4:32 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > Maybe, if you deleted that special 'c' partition, it made > the rest of the process screw up. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give that a try. Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 22:04:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B34D16A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AC313C455 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6372665504 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:04:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:04:51 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20080219123428.02425ec8@mail.computinginnovations.com> References: <6.0.0.22.2.20080219123428.02425ec8@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Shell scripting question - incrementing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:04:53 -0000 --On Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:41:43 -0600 Derek Ragona wrote: Thanks to all who offered suggestions. Here's a working script that creates snort rules *and* a sid-msg.map file: #!/bin/sh cat file.1 | cut -d',' -f9 | sort | uniq > file.nicks i=2000002 j=`wc -l file.nicks | awk '{print $1}'` k=$(( i + j - 1 )) (read line; echo "alert ip \$HOME_NET any -> \$EXTERNAL_NET any ( sid:2000001; msg:\" JOIN $line detected\"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:\"JOIN\"; content:$line; rev:1;)"; while read line && [ $i -le $k ]; do echo "alert ip \$HOME_NET any -> \$EXTERNAL_NET any (sid:$i; msg:\" JOIN $line detected\"; classtype:trojan-activity; content:\"JOIN\"; content:$line; rev:1;)"; i=`expr $i + 1`; done) < file.nicks > file.rules cat file.rules | cut -d':' -f2,3 | cut -d';' -f1,2 | sed 's/; msg:/ || /g' > file-sid-msg.map -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 22:29:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB99716A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@peterk.org) Received: from poshta.pknet.net (poshta.pknet.net [216.241.167.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7722113C448 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@peterk.org) Received: (qmail 68386 invoked by uid 98); 19 Feb 2008 22:29:47 -0000 Received: from 216.241.167.213 by poshta.pknet.net (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.91.2/5145. spamassassin: 3.2.3. Clear:RC:1(216.241.167.213):. Processed in 0.035707 secs); 19 Feb 2008 22:29:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.pknet.net) (216.241.167.213) by poshta.pknet.net with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 22:29:47 -0000 Received: from 63.65.46.186 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fbsdq@peterk.org) by webmail.pknet.net with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:29:47 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <1928.63.65.46.186.1203460187.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:29:47 -0700 (MST) From: "Peter" To: "Drew Sanford" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: PHP cli segfaults X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:29:51 -0000 > Drew Sanford wrote: > | Command line programs for php seem to segfault on a 7.0RC1 box (yes, I > | know, I should update to RC2) - for example: > | > | root@colossus(~/bin)$ php -v > | PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 9 2008 13:03:20) > | Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group > | Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies > | zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) php -v > | > | Any pointers? Just update and see if that fixes it? Thanks in advance. > | > | > | uname output: > | FreeBSD colossus.cotharyus.net 7.0-RC1 FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 #0: Sat Feb 9 > | 11:43:37 CST 2008 > Getting same thing, fresh install of 7.0 [cvsupped to rc2?], latest or not latest portsnap, I found it was the 'mhash.so' extension that was causing php to segfault - did portsnap update, and rebuilt all php stuff, still does same thing - have not tried it for last several weeks, so could be fixed by now...I did cvsup to latest sources... my emails were subjected "apache coredump with 'mhash' php extension enabled" - with mhash disabled, php works fine now. Will try and buildworld/reinstall php with the latest 7 sometime soon. ]Peter[ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 22:37:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8156816A418 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5689713C45D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so3651216waf.3 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:37:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=2oQrlpaDUeCHpFSEOQ9hcEwiSgQTlFjqeryzVukL3Fw=; b=g4b5J/7pCAzRgmF8iuKeoG6+3dIlzDgaPsNQ3yWP9ZMdxLeS5p9xgH3ktWW0KN7ydH/p4UiGAQWjq1zxgwOiGbiT/BgHWAgG07UgZ/qroeJUSBSjiMGA5PvYUZkDQScdKPVN7YugzvfIlKHLMFFSEufHvQE/ypREzyr2V3ylwmo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IobDbES5xfaWIuod5FrX6XoN2yEbl2gkuqb2jiVl1BZT3MZely174okoWp9b7t2Hxlmyl5e/Rfvx0+vlGzyQYsY0smuNjVmoyfR5RdeKU+ZetqvmNt7GY9Enjzm0FKj7Bjg45p7APHSsqlEV5Bf3KXsjxAuePk1O+AnF/gz384w= Received: by 10.115.49.16 with SMTP id b16mr2154059wak.65.1203460626473; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.198.3 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:37:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <340a29540802191437m557b8e02w91fb96b3b4fe7aa8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:37:06 -0700 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "Dominique Goncalves" In-Reply-To: <7daacbbe0802171214t129d2945l8c035c15c242f95e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200802161041.08346.af300wsm@gmail.com> <7daacbbe0802171214t129d2945l8c035c15c242f95e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: IPv4 loopback address is missing, why? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:37:07 -0000 On Feb 17, 2008 1:14 PM, Dominique Goncalves wrote: > Hi, > > On Feb 16, 2008 6:41 PM, Andrew Falanga wrote: > > HI, > > > > On my father's computer there isn't an IPv4 loopback address being > assigned to > > the lo0 interface. What would cause this? I've looked at his configs > and > > they're the same as on my system (obviously something is different, but > I > > don't know what). I see in his /etc/defaults/rc.conf the "ifconfig_lo0" > line > > is *NOT* commented out or otherwise altered and his file looks the same > as > > mine (at least on this point, I haven't contrasted the two entirely). > > > > So, why would his system not be configuring an IPv4 loopback address? > After > > bootup, I can add the address manually using ifconfig. > > Do you have > network_interfaces="something" in your /etc/rc.conf ? > If so you need also to add lo0. > > Hope this helps > > His machine does have it in /etc/defaults/rc.conf (I assume this is where it's supposed to be because my /etc/rc.conf file doesn't have it either but I do have it in /etc/defaults/rc.conf), but not in /etc/rc.conf. Basically, his rc.conf files look nearly identical to mine (mine works). I didn't look closely at this /etc/hosts file as the other respondent mentioned but I will. Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 22:37:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A4E16A4CA for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:37:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE51013C4CC for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1JMXGLj047716; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:33:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1JMXG6E047714; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:33:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:33:16 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jeff Gold Message-ID: <20080219223316.GB47651@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4bded9640802191245q20832a83j31723763ab21a940@mail.gmail.com> <20080219213254.GB47232@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4bded9640802191349p2e0f4839p52b35f94f1457ba5@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4bded9640802191349p2e0f4839p52b35f94f1457ba5@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:37:20 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 04:49:25PM -0500, Jeff Gold wrote: > On Feb 19, 2008 4:32 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > Maybe, if you deleted that special 'c' partition, it made > > the rest of the process screw up. > > Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give that a try. Just to be clear; I am not suggesting deleting that 'c' partition. I am saying that if that was something you have done, it could possibly cause the other errors. In addition to being there in bsdlabel and specifying the whole size of the slice, it should have an fstype of 'unused' ////jerry > > Jeff > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 23:24:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0CC16A41A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA4313C4CE for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1JNO08m005518; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:24:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1JNNuuQ005515; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:23:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:23:56 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> Message-ID: <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:24:57 -0000 > use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this what is "desktop system" and "server system"? AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 23:27:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D7E16A41B for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-19.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-19.bluehost.com [69.89.20.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43FA213C448 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:27:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 6319 invoked by uid 0); 19 Feb 2008 20:27:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 20:27:50 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRZ4A-0006Sl-Gf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:27:50 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:27:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:27:49 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219202749.GE92559@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219161404.GB91805@demeter.hydra> <20080219163634.GA46198@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080219163634.GA46198@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:27:29 -0000 > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: [ snip a bunch of stuff ] On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:36:34AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > A good rundown of some of the differences. > Maybe you can put this on a web page and get it added to lists > of comparrisons. Sure. I'll polish it up and post it somewhere in that polished form, then reply here. If not today, I'll aim to get it done tomorrow. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Paul Graham: "Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to build programs out of the wrong concepts." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 23:31:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CDD16A420 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE2613C461 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:31:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1JNRO42047951; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:27:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1JNROKs047950; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:27:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:27:24 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080219232724.GA47934@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Chad Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:31:30 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:23:56AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this > > what is "desktop system" and "server system"? > > AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both.. Yup. That be the case. I think the poster just meant that FreeBSD tends to get software loaded on it for server purposes more and Lunix tends to come bundled to be used as a desktop more. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 00:08:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3490816A41B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lauasanf@wilderness.homeip.net) Received: from que03.charter.net (que03.charter.net [209.225.8.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C274A13C45A for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lauasanf@wilderness.homeip.net) Received: from aarprv04.charter.net ([10.20.200.74]) by mta12.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20080219232314.CMT22287.mta12.charter.net@aarprv04.charter.net>; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:23:14 -0500 Received: from angel.cotharyus.net ([71.87.188.55]) by aarprv04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20080219232314.MWJG17353.aarprv04.charter.net@angel.cotharyus.net>; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:23:14 -0500 Message-ID: <47BB64E1.3060405@wilderness.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:23:13 -0600 From: Drew Sanford User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter References: <1928.63.65.46.186.1203460187.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> In-Reply-To: <1928.63.65.46.186.1203460187.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chzlrs: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP cli segfaults X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:08:21 -0000 Peter wrote: >> Drew Sanford wrote: >> | Command line programs for php seem to segfault on a 7.0RC1 box (yes, I >> | know, I should update to RC2) - for example: >> | >> | root@colossus(~/bin)$ php -v >> | PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 9 2008 13:03:20) >> | Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group >> | Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies >> | zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) php -v >> | >> | Any pointers? Just update and see if that fixes it? Thanks in advance. >> | >> | >> | uname output: >> | FreeBSD colossus.cotharyus.net 7.0-RC1 FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 #0: Sat Feb 9 >> | 11:43:37 CST 2008 >> > > Getting same thing, fresh install of 7.0 [cvsupped to rc2?], latest or > not latest portsnap, I found it was the 'mhash.so' extension that was > causing php to segfault - did portsnap update, and rebuilt all php > stuff, still does same thing - have not tried it for last several weeks, > so could be fixed by now...I did cvsup to latest sources... > my emails were subjected "apache coredump with 'mhash' php extension > enabled" - with mhash disabled, php works fine now. Will try and > buildworld/reinstall php with the latest 7 sometime soon. > > ]Peter[ > > Good find Peter, I've got exactly the same system config at this point, and disabling mhash fixed it as well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 00:46:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A02316A41A for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1AA13C45A for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:46:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1K0ig8W078508 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:44:44 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:44:37 +1000 Message-Id: <1203468277.6470.114.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.386, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.41, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:46:39 -0000 On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 08:49 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 10:13:39PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 12:51 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >> > > > >> by not being linux at all. > > > > > > > > FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is > > > FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it is just unix - it depends > > > from the user how it's being used. > > > > True. But looking at it from a newbie point of view the statement helps > > give it perspective. I have to translate for people all the time and I > > know this works. > > > > We all know that FreeBSD whoops linux's ass, but as to how it does this > > is beyond most newer users. :P > > The way you phrased it makes it sound like FreeBSD is simply unsuited to > use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this > from a Thinkpad laptop with FreeBSD on it, and it's by far the best > "desktop" OS I've ever had the pleasure to use. > Me too. But you have to be more enabled to get a lot of the software the is wanted on a desktop system working. Case in point: Gnome is not automatically installed (or kde or any other wm). Web browsing can be tricky because you have to get wrappers for plugins and so on. For you and me- we don't mind because we know the result will be fantastic, but others who just want to get on with it it can be a pain. Therefore, I'd say a desktop version of FreeBSD would be better described as a workstation. Considering we're comparing to Ubuntu, I'd say thats a fair statement. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 06:04:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D3816A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcin.polewski@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904C113C4DD for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcin.polewski@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so1946659rvb.43 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:04:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=+qvBXTeI5EVyWeUV/w6T72DEuwHxxq6zsRNDwxf0kV8=; b=XqKlD7F7SY7A4Xtodur4FgZ35BrVx8spl6BJvJXNN7As1wzc/7w2SzWUG1cYfDi2OZFvctlH8Jw35Wr4V9rsL8TZEpQC0Q3OWhBPgqEny/E1x/MDySBmhDN1D4l0mpsOfcgaHV+ZzJHRAPxkvAHfyc1Qb7Xu3g/MMKJV4ypXsY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=QspSBthNHR6TLEy9W/9oimbC/GSbw5pqv8u0wfsA6xfmShYcwnMmI5vsER35uS6WScP1asIPdx8ksd58A2wqgBAg6x1LVPwGXc9qlEHMzIHKL6pnrm7KJg6WYdJKj49WWZnENuJV6oQBfc3P2bSSYHnZd6KtFYLS5vwCc4fVlgI= Received: by 10.141.20.7 with SMTP id x7mr5391951rvi.34.1203485901973; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.189.11 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:38:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <37a72e270802192138x7911c088pf899225b6fd9de8d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:38:21 -0600 From: "Marcin Polewski" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Firewall that supports Port triggering X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:04:11 -0000 Hello, I am trying to implement a FreeBSD firewall but with support for port triggering. Which firewall package that is available for FreeBSD supports port triggering? Currently I am trying to use PF with no success. I am open to trying other firewall products (IPF, IPFW, etc). Thanks, --Marcin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 06:17:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A29816A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A0813C455 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j2so1061087tid.3 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:17:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=hTTXKg53+8o3p32juq5TLCje3IRjoTlUMBe5Ku+EJlU=; b=tnQBhZvw+dGf8ozdkTgpm/vfzmRj5DrorxLB6NfIMZi4DhMplmWBZTHbrX9HpwOpOTOLWpdildkmiq6SGansBEpg9CxhNFVS5fxZOr6iuC1c94cUK1V5dHziiNNXUKDOZUmCBz6nnXBZj7lLrUif9IIzaolstnKlbvFJA0avmts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=J3PZFuyDkQ4UKSM0As/hN0NxGT90M7swLEhEqEPXDOe7hOH8kRxCZtNgrIHiekJgX5BeW05zbBY95oDFeFkPkY518V3932eMljs5074/Kkonba+MYoegG8J6kxp0trs13UkgLeWg/piNzydyHRp5g1DQ4SuBdqoBtndOjfnIMSU= Received: by 10.110.28.2 with SMTP id b2mr5134684tib.41.1203488250647; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:17:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.185.7 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:17:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1563a4fd0802192217v2776fd50hf299ee7d86d9fb5c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:47:30 +0530 From: "navneet Upadhyay" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: 32 bit FreeBSD compiled binary coredumps on 64 bit(amd) FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:17:32 -0000 Hi, I am compiling the binary on 32 bit FreeBSD and running it on 64 (amd64)bit FreeBSD . FreeBSD says it is possible to do so. But my application core dumps . I investigated the reason which is as follows : The problem is in the call retval = sysctl(mib, 4, &kp, &sz, NULL, 0); where sz is size of kp and where kp is a structure of type kinfo_proc. The size of this structure on 32bit system is 768 and on 64 bit system is 1088. The call works on 32 bit system but when run on 64 bit system it coredumps , because of the size mismatch of kinfo_proc . If i hardcode the sz to 1088 then it works on amd64 systems , how do i deal with it. I am anticipating lot of coredumps like that, what is a generic solution for such kinds of problems. Do Anyone has any clues ? Thanks, navneet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 07:06:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E2916A401 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loc.hello@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910EE13C467 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from loc.hello@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so3027543pyb.10 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:06:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=zuNppu4NjHYcPYf7B8W930r70OW+FubL+VpaNlP0JFw=; b=xEfGdv15PJnphwaqYUZWDod4PPIuC4Nn065ewwYXimUQcgsjyj2eEeC8gKZ+6yn5IwvRtjUBM0yIw1HnJnxaQIh3miyqqJvBXTdVCX/yhhIfKuqjCefOI7oI8Z4daG2xSGP5yL3D9tyQxT1DI4qMDJWFkcBWkEY7jE0XnyNI8bY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=GIs2uTqHsAbm0YT4+ccKYuPpGNic2TGSQbWBcxwmOdKtf1KiN0oNp5C65eC2QpVIcauolaVlZiw11tpafQ59FITdd95SNpBNwTG80NViRU5kdHlXush00dIMes2/W91TtytTgx1kAtSqAXl2WrMrABLkHONelQReK86YkuJ/450= Received: by 10.65.218.15 with SMTP id v15mr15617773qbq.15.1203491212244; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.96.2 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:06:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7d4569950802192306q74a742b6i9edfee63e0441d6b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:36:52 +0530 From: "lokesh babu" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: problem while creating a package X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:06:53 -0000 hi, i am facing a problem while extracting a package 1)i created a package using pkg_create command used is : *pkg_create -f cwd/filelist -p cwd/avamar -c cwd/comments -d cwd/desc* package is getting created and it is in cwd 2)extracting it using pkg_add command used is :*pkg_add packagename.tbz* here package is getting extracted but it is extracted into cwd/avamar now what i want is i want to extract it into a default location /usr/local/avamar can u please help me in doing this 3)using *pkg_add -p /usr/local/avamar packagename.tbz* we can extract it into /usr/local/avamar but i do't want to do it in that format after package is craeted if i give the command *pkg_add packagename.tbz* it should be extracted into /usr/lcoal/avamar. how to do this? i shall be thank full to u if u can help me out in this issue.. *cwd : current working directory* Thanks, Lokesh. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 07:49:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91C716A405 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norman@apache.org) Received: from vs159071.vserver.de (hiphopcorner.de [62.75.159.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C9A13C459 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norman@apache.org) Received: from [10.99.0.2] (unknown [213.188.107.182]) by vs159071.vserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAB8BE8558; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:49:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Norman Maurer To: shinny knight In-Reply-To: <971676.88429.qm@web44805.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <971676.88429.qm@web44805.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:49:26 +0100 Message-Id: <1203493766.6674.6.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CARP and FreeBSD 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:49:35 -0000 Am Donnerstag, den 24.01.2008, 22:45 -0800 schrieb shinny knight: > Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have two machines. Each have two interfaces, xl0 and fxp0. And each have > > two carp interfaces -- carp1 (xl0 of both) and carp2 (fxp0 of both). One of > > the machines is master, the other is backup. > > > > I also have the following sysctl set: net.inet.carp.preempt -> 1 > > > > My understanding is that if I down one of the interfaces on the master > > machine (say ''ifconfig xl0 down''), then both carp interfaces on the master > > will be marked as down. And the backup will become the new master. Later, > > when the interface is marked up (''ifconfig xl0 up''), the old master will > > resume control. This is my understanding and that's how things were till > > yesterday (when I was on FreeBSD 6.2/i386 with both machines). > > > > Today morning I upgraded both machines to FreeBSD 6.3 and that does not seem > > to be the case any more. > > > > Now, on the master machine when I down the xl0 interface, only carp1 (the > > group containing xl0) goes into init state (and the other machine's carp1 > > interface becomes the new master). Ditto for fxp0 and carp2. So in essence, > > the net.inet.carp.preempt=1 sysctl does not seem to be working as expected > > which is unlike how things were in FreeBSD 6.2. > > > > Has something changed with regards to carp between FreeBSD 6.2 and 6.3? Any > > one else encountering a similar problem? > > I happened to reboot the machines now while sitting at the console. And I > noticed that the master machine emits an error like ''carp2: incorrect > hash'' while booting up. Checking the console logs showed me that the > errors have been appearing ever since I upgraded the machine. Most of the > times it was to do with carp2, once it was to do with carp1. > > Here's the relevant bits of my rc.conf file from the master machine. > > ---8<-- > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 192.168.10.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 polling" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet 192.168.10.11 netmask 255.255.255.255" > > ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.20.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 polling" > > cloned_interfaces="carp1 carp2" > ifconfig_carp1="vhid 1 pass password advskew 0 192.168.10.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_carp2_alias0="vhid 2 pass password advskew 0 192.168.20.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_carp2_alias1="vhid 2 pass password advskew 0 192.168.20.2 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ---8<-- > > Its the same on the backup machine, except for the different IPs for fxp0 > and xl0. > > Thanks, > Rakhesh > > --- > http://rakhesh.net/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello Rakhesh, > > I never had hash errors on startup for CARP, but for demote, promote you should try /usr/ports/net/ifstated. It's working fine for me. > > > > Best Regards, > Catalin Any news on this ? I see the same problem on our freebsd + pf + carp installation... Cheers, Norman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 08:02:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE31816A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E36E13C45D for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1K82PvX087648 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:02:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:02:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:02:25 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:02:29 -0000 Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. Circa '01 or '02 I figured my olden DJ500 had cost ~$45/year. Not counting the ink. It kept chugging around until a month or so ago and by now it really is worm out. It makes it's old, clunking, grinding sounds when I power dowwn, but nothing when I boot up. And a friend stopped by this afternoon and checked. Cabling is fine; printer has power. None of the buttons respond; no reset, no formfeed, nada. Only two of the usual three LED's are lit, so it's probably broken, burn-out, or worn out wires somewhere. The problem with buying New---and my wife is threatening me if I buy some older, junker printer---the problem is getting any of these printers that do everything but shine your shoes is: are there drivers to make them work with FreeBSD? I don't care about fax, or features like scanning and copying. About the same with color since most files are code or essays. Nutshell, I'd like anyone's ideas/experiences with some of these new HP/<<< or whateverbrand>>> printers. I wouldn't *mind* if I could scan in text from a techy paper into HTML or PDF or text. But mostly, like 99.44% plain black text. My old deskjet used gs as a filter to print PostScript. Do we have any such plugin support, or are printers still roll-your-own? [FWIW, I can't seem to get CUPS working... altho it maay be my misssing /dev/lpt0.] gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 08:09:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CF516A40B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185F313C44B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:09:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so1937851mue.6 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:09:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=0PXsuFenM4nIEx17sNIPy9bihq8pqEaCIXK7gU+Yv7I=; b=OEHRQt5N5kZ3Q0pNCw2GFsjkBRtADahg+KHVhyQ2azw6uPaAc+0hMCO/8pp06GNUg7kmYJTtMRpUYmuhxj2OwjA2haRpPvYkht3P+QTb87xusVKcRu/fcoIKRH9knWNjGZM9rGlL1Xb3PibuI1BPG+tz3wpn48vz2ezXwKTC+GE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JFR0B7UXsrqZ9DhL/RQKzrwQB3aCZ3qnPuFdErfcVT3WH909+w/Mm05mEg6seGKGVLxJL31z0cqZ1nEuoecw6eJf4ZcBCnvbeCYGZMy5KHnIR5TDzF6kpV4Ow6JZ2dmRJKnkc/sMMWuu+j81SZbSpQTKgOe151WnRXsxwZY/WlM= Received: by 10.65.225.7 with SMTP id c7mr11384199qbr.1.1203494993639; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:09:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.120.14 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:09:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:09:53 +0200 From: "Deian Popov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: DNS /etc/namedb owner hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:09:56 -0000 Hello, I have the following problem with bind: it is configured to run as bind:bind and after every reboot of the system all files and directories under /etc/namedb become owned by root:wheel so bind is unable is unable to update it's zone files after dhcpd leases IP to any given client. How to fix either owner, or set somewhere that the owner of this folder, subfolder and files is my DNS server? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 08:12:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09BC16A403 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E33E13C4E3 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.38] (a89-182-73-80.net-htp.de [89.182.73.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2AFA44529 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:12:07 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:12:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1563a4fd0802192217v2776fd50hf299ee7d86d9fb5c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802192217v2776fd50hf299ee7d86d9fb5c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802200912.21515.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: 32 bit FreeBSD compiled binary coredumps on 64 bit(amd) FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:12:09 -0000 Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2008 07:17:30 schrieb navneet Upadhyay: > I am compiling the binary on 32 bit FreeBSD and running it on 64 > (amd64)bit FreeBSD . FreeBSD says it is possible to do so. > But my application core dumps . I investigated the reason which is > as follows : > > The problem is in the call retval = sysctl(mib, 4, &kp, &sz, NULL, 0); > where sz is size of kp and where kp is a structure of type kinfo_proc. The > size of this structure on 32bit system is 768 and on 64 bit system is 1088. > > The call works on 32 bit system but when run on 64 bit system it coredumps > , because of the size mismatch of kinfo_proc . > > If i hardcode the sz to 1088 then it works on amd64 systems , how do i deal > with it. I am anticipating lot of coredumps like that, what is a generic > solution for such kinds of problems. Without investigating further whether the structure up to byte 768 is different (wrt. structure member offsets, and thus wrt. to hardcoded constants in the binary file), which would be a real showstopper for the i386"-emulation" on amd64 (and thus I can't see it being that way), see the documentation of sysctl: RETURN VALUES Upon successful completion, the value 0 is returned; otherwise the value -1 is returned and the global variable errno is set to indicate the error. ERRORS [ENOMEM] The length pointed to by oldlenp is too short to hold the requested value. So, basically, you should check in the call whether sysctl returned -1 (with errno set to ENOMEM), and enlarge the buffer if so, until it doesn't return -1 anymore. This should handle i386 and amd64 transparently (if the offsets up to byte 768 are equal/similar). In case you're trying to recompile the application on 64-bit, you should use sizeof() anyway to automatically adapt the initial buffer size reserved for the output buffer depending on the definition of the structure (which will also spare you pain if a FreeBSD upgrade changes the structure). -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 08:25:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76C616A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from mx2.itu.dk (unknown [130.226.142.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB6413C43E for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from wimac.littlebit.dk (unknown [85.233.238.191]) by mx2.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7933F648001 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:25:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BBE3D7.3020104@cederstrand.dk> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:24:55 +0100 From: Erik Cederstrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:25:44 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > > Nutshell, I'd like anyone's ideas/experiences with some of these > new HP/<<< or whateverbrand>>> printers. I wouldn't *mind* if I > could scan in text from a techy paper into HTML or PDF or text. > But mostly, like 99.44% plain black text. My old deskjet used > gs as a filter to print PostScript. Do we have any such plugin > support, or are printers still roll-your-own? [FWIW, I can't > seem to get CUPS working... altho it maay be my misssing > /dev/lpt0.] I suggest getting a network printer. Most of them support the IPP printing protocol, and if it eats PostScript then it's pretty much guaranteed to work on every operating system under the sun. Saves you from fiddling with drivers for FreeBSD and setting up CUPS. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 08:35:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D6516A405 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C3513C45D for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1K8XoQS001535; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:33:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1K8XefU001532; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:33:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:33:40 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20080219232724.GA47934@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: <20080220093127.A1495@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080219232724.GA47934@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Chad Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:35:28 -0000 >> AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both.. > > Yup. That be the case. > I think the poster just meant that FreeBSD tends to get software FreeBSD DOES NOT TEND to install anything more than a base system, doesn't start any services than minimum too. everything else is up to user, which i OK that's all. FreeBSD is just an operating system. and fortunately nothing more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 08:35:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C66816A468 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFED13C442 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:35:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1K8ZO46001546; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:35:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1K8ZGQ5001543; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:35:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:35:16 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: navneet Upadhyay In-Reply-To: <1563a4fd0802192217v2776fd50hf299ee7d86d9fb5c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080220093508.M1495@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1563a4fd0802192217v2776fd50hf299ee7d86d9fb5c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 32 bit FreeBSD compiled binary coredumps on 64 bit(amd) FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:35:46 -0000 > If i hardcode the sz to 1088 then it works on amd64 systems , how do i deal > with it. I am anticipating lot of coredumps like that, what is a generic > solution for such kinds of problems. to compile both versions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 10:33:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011EA16A404 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:33:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.bzerk.org [82.95.223.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8548713C46E for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1KAXxsT014533; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:33:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m1KAXw8t014532; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:33:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:33:58 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Deian Popov Message-ID: <20080220103358.GA14370@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Deian Popov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_44,J_CHICKENPOX_45 autolearn=no version=3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on ei.bzerk.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS /etc/namedb owner hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:33:09 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:09:53AM +0200, Deian Popov typed: > Hello, > > I have the following problem with bind: > > it is configured to run as bind:bind and after every reboot of the system > all files and directories under /etc/namedb become owned by root:wheel so > bind is unable is unable to update it's zone files after dhcpd leases IP to > any given client. How to fix either owner, or set somewhere that the owner > of this folder, subfolder and files is my DNS server? Try setting named_chroot_autoupdate to NO in your rc.conf Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 10:33:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47FB16A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from klerfe@stereo.lt) Received: from mail.elpastas.lt (mail.elpastas.lt [212.122.77.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7505813C4DD for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from klerfe@stereo.lt) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.elpastas.lt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCD31146F for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:14:43 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at elpastas.lt Received: from mail.elpastas.lt ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.elpastas.lt [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rZtMhHIsvl8R for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:14:41 +0200 (EET) Received: from junior (82-135-201-204.ip.zebra.lt [82.135.201.204]) by mail.elpastas.lt (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E5C1146E for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:14:41 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <001c01c873a9$7b82dc20$2601a8c0@junior> From: "klerfe [Bodegas]" To: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:15:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FTPD and IExplore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:33:36 -0000 Hi. My problem is i cannot connect to my ftp server (started from inetd) = via IExplore or any other web browser. I've added user ftp to enable anonymous logins = on my ftp server and it works when connecting via ftp client such as Total = Commander. But it doesn't work via any web browser. My OS is FreeBSD 6.2. I had 5.4 = before, and i didn't had this problem on previous machine. The problem appeared when = i freshly reinstalled the operating system. Any suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 10:49:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DDE16A409 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D14013C4D3 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1KAnV3t001906; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:49:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1KAnSwp001903; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:49:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:49:28 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "klerfe [Bodegas]" In-Reply-To: <001c01c873a9$7b82dc20$2601a8c0@junior> Message-ID: <20080220114831.H1900@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <001c01c873a9$7b82dc20$2601a8c0@junior> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTPD and IExplore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:49:45 -0000 > Hi. My problem is i cannot connect to my ftp server (started from inetd) via IExplore > or any other web browser. I've added user ftp to enable anonymous logins on my ftp > server and it works when connecting via ftp client such as Total Commander. But it > doesn't work via any web browser. no it's not because of freebsd version. it's just internet explorer. it's ftp client may work. or may not ;) that's it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 11:06:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F2916A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:06:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B2713C4FA for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so3112421pyb.10 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:06:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=e0KmJr9RnCX9ziZ5edJo/ytGX/scQ90kuhBAU9jPLMM=; b=pND2vY4I0Hh8J0b2ujMLI1nQdvlGnmSzFIXdxguBLtyn4ILQPE/rZENbxIPgxNLf3hYn4xqkkE1hEBEuxs+kF+Z7Z5mEFyp3Ctj4rXwb42Gn0HIq4tOOXXgHhK44kTfDZ3Pi44pjt9Lhe50+GBqoSWyCcq+bGrOHCaQAdsr9a+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=BiL/85+a0Rc35FzBENVbisAu/kykCDKtAOdRA03veEFvDmrtYjJRgAdHle/q1NuaUkrhALGUeda/AyCR1O/rZMPfx9gYsPsIS7bubWNUPtaq+fq0WP6yFHGkcfDWtK1Swt/U++YItInB60D+Q4bjXkI6TjE4oarYzcy5d/Seleo= Received: by 10.65.211.16 with SMTP id n16mr16307977qbq.94.1203505590327; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.232.17 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:06:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:06:30 +0200 From: "David Naylor" Sender: naylor.b.david@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: a40880a39a81adb3 Subject: Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:06:32 -0000 Hi, I am currently replacing my defunct motherboard, I am unable to test the hardware before purchase and I am seeking advice on which motherboard to get. Upon review I have selected a Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4, does FreeBSD work with this board. It does have a nForce 650i (and I am not sure FreeBSD works with it?) If anyone has an alternative suggestion please let me know. The motherboard will have to support (my budget is about < ZAR2000 ~ USD275): o) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 o) 4x 800Mhz DDR2 Ram o) 2x SATA HDD o) 2x IDE CDROM Drive o) 2x nVidia 7600 GT Thank you all for your help David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 11:11:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C6916A403 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFF313C4F8 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:10:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99D6405486; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:10:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BC0AC1.5020004@bsdforen.de> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:10:57 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "klerfe [Bodegas]" References: <001c01c873a9$7b82dc20$2601a8c0@junior> In-Reply-To: <001c01c873a9$7b82dc20$2601a8c0@junior> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTPD and IExplore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:11:00 -0000 klerfe [Bodegas] wrote: > Hi. My problem is i cannot connect to my ftp server (started from inetd) via IExplore > or any other web browser. I've added user ftp to enable anonymous logins on my ftp > server and it works when connecting via ftp client such as Total Commander. But it > doesn't work via any web browser. My OS is FreeBSD 6.2. I had 5.4 before, and > i didn't had this problem on previous machine. The problem appeared when i freshly > reinstalled the operating system. Any suggestions? You probably just have to activate passive ftp in your browsers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 11:34:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A407516A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:34:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hubaghdadi@yahoo.ca) Received: from web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 490E313C448 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:34:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hubaghdadi@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 60067 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Feb 2008 11:34:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=I3IfJMuFWVyYLt3s4QQBoprxCHDa7rcsz/CK90IlW9bdfq4v+FiyaxMofNBZ+HDVwwJ84uGEXJLf8PwQvNdx/9XCSIhJ0P5JruanXd8YjuqmUOtvgQKdb5vl0BmMuxO+t2sbMXWpWSXMlnXZ9oGSJzOW5BAgb0p0aso5LAq0rjM=; X-YMail-OSG: 0u5cwwgVM1lGrO8hvvWHtVKbTt3125YpuILvAEch1viaa_gu07qsCltXSa_3tmH0bOkXmgrfspUGF5RO7bUIhDskoAIgDPvmSzEkUmTJbbUY_1pfQlSX1phcqfmorA-- Received: from [82.137.247.10] by web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:34:31 PST Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:34:31 -0800 (PST) From: Lone Wolf To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20080219155810.GD45840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <361971.54402.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:34:32 -0000 >>It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the special options during a standard installtion. Please correct me if I'm wrong: GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed by default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to. If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during FreeBSD installation? Thanks. Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:19:51AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: > I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive > with FreeBSD . > Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? I suppose it depends on the graphics card model, but probably. Check that hardware compatibility list. In this case it would be compatibility with Xorg since that is the display/graphics system. > Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the special options during a standard installtion. > Thanks demons! That is daemon, not demon. There is a big difference. ////jerry > > Olivier Nicole wrote: > I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. > > --- > > Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH > > RAM: 192 MB > > --- > > Is my hard ware sufficient? > > Sufficient to do what? > > Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with > something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. > > I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. > > Olivier > > > > Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. > E.A Poe > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 11:37:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D804C16A401 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb7:ef56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590CC13C4D9 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from lux.student.utwente.nl (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.170.81]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1KBbMnr011658; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:37:22 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:37:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <001c01c873a9$7b82dc20$2601a8c0@junior> <20080220114831.H1900@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080220114831.H1900@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802201237.22193.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Wojciech Puchar , "klerfe \[Bodegas\]" Subject: Re: FTPD and IExplore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:37:31 -0000 On Wednesday 20 February 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Hi. My problem is i cannot connect to my ftp server (started from inetd) > > via IExplore or any other web browser. I've added user ftp to enable > > anonymous logins on my ftp server and it works when connecting via ftp > > client such as Total Commander. But it doesn't work via any web browser. > > no it's not because of freebsd version. it's just internet explorer. it's > ftp client may work. or may not ;) > that's it. This answer leaves a lot to be desired. If you have something useful to add please do, but otherwise leave it up to other people to answer such questions. -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 11:46:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834D116A401 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BEB8F13C4D3 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 15517 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2008 11:46:54 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 20 Feb 2008 11:46:54 -0000 Message-ID: <47BC131D.3010106@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:46:37 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lone Wolf References: <361971.54402.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <361971.54402.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:46:57 -0000 Hi, Lone Wolf wrote: >>> It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. > But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the > special options during a standard installtion. > it is an option depending on your installation menthod. > Please correct me if I'm wrong: > GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed by default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to. > If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during FreeBSD installation? > Thanks. There are several ways to install FreeBSD. The simplest would be the download of an ISO image of for the first CD, burn it and boot the machine with it. You can then install all packages from the CD without an Internet connection. Normally, all the things needed to have a decent computer are on this CD. GNOME was earlier always included. After FreeBSD is up and running, you can install the ports system and install any program from the ports collection via an Internet connection. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 11:53:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8F516A407 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hubaghdadi@yahoo.ca) Received: from web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26B7C13C4F0 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hubaghdadi@yahoo.ca) Received: (qmail 36673 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Feb 2008 11:53:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=BRozH7+07IJO5V5XyBvyEC1DkrQE8cjx0iPtG+q40fQdXYe63yuWgGJHUum7ghWv9rWJcVn+IFnALd0L7iVOQ+xns0fn5h/Vee8hQzvYe7qKhNIuC8R6RVCVxNjRo752xLIC7VIFuAWqpXJKNL0Voj9NYGAEGJ7OM3BT2bMkkZo=; X-YMail-OSG: MSM8g6oVM1ld0UUL.cRG4wqHfppdZ3qfcdNeutx4IcupZ1Y6OWxbkQseP985F_rcjzXSZf618QLyxsilH16fK1Seot5dcswITHAo9xTA7FL5SHSvn5EPzjYmD1jKDVcZOpG01osilMlaxNg- Received: from [82.137.247.10] by web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:53:48 PST Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:53:48 -0800 (PST) From: Lone Wolf To: Erich Dollansky In-Reply-To: <47BC131D.3010106@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <88000.36666.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:53:50 -0000 Thank you for explanation :) So, if GNOME/KDE can be installed on FreeBSD, what are the advantages of BSD-based desktop systems like DesktopBSD/PC-BSD over FreeBSD? just the graphical installer? Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, Lone Wolf wrote: >>> It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. > But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the > special options during a standard installtion. > it is an option depending on your installation menthod. > Please correct me if I'm wrong: > GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed by default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to. > If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during FreeBSD installation? > Thanks. There are several ways to install FreeBSD. The simplest would be the download of an ISO image of for the first CD, burn it and boot the machine with it. You can then install all packages from the CD without an Internet connection. Normally, all the things needed to have a decent computer are on this CD. GNOME was earlier always included. After FreeBSD is up and running, you can install the ports system and install any program from the ports collection via an Internet connection. Erich Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 12:07:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5AD16A402 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1DF13C43E for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([193.31.10.34]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:09:50 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m1KC7VQs005985 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:07:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:07:31 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080220120731.GA5960@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Feb 2008 12:09:51.0100 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EA5D3C0:01C873B9] Subject: npviewer.bin.core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:07:35 -0000 Hello, From time to time I see in my HOME a file: $ ls -l npviewer.bin.core -rw------- 1 guru wheel 12320768 19 feb 15:09 npviewer.bin.core it seems that it's a core file from some nspluginwrapper: # find /usr -name npviewer.bin -print /usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin Is it worth to file a bug report or just remove it by cron job? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 12:21:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B831216A402 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F43713C468 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so3137100pyb.10 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:21:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=og9cC5JgBEAudf9DGbZ4tDu3UMIicOa+bnuEnTp/iS8=; b=WvV6wnNnlEb4iXGLTj6vsps7hkVlVhi8mXTpmnZjmSFYoINWX9jmvT9X2sva7dTqTU4kzSdT5FMyS+1awfDS82TeEZAv/CTgsjN30+voxeCtBX3rRaUOptyyj5IY7j3HGt15gi1AjUThG5yBfi2I1Quj4hWrOu3fwARcP38cPfU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DhECEEw1qDxCA1F5r+55pYk4slwIjZxDU0z91ExBDjxdQ+2Nxa2lGPhU7A0NNMpxcj56KaRDOMEC5nWOG3831vFxTLCDKviuIAdeoKsRSrr3bLSFo1btkG85cPR3NL/aIW4uMxlqb81ysXWfWEnh360ayoF4o+zxGQd1zGNOL9c= Received: by 10.65.239.14 with SMTP id q14mr16260958qbr.66.1203510082510; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.209.16 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:21:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <82f916c90802200421n2b22229alc9e40f64373c4b45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:21:22 +0000 From: "Kemian Dang" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, leoz.2005@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20080219142254.GA77217@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080201111805.GA7580@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <20080219142254.GA77217@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: port net/acx100 for usr5410 pcmcia wireless FBSD 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:21:23 -0000 Try ndis, it works for my broadcom wireless adapter. Kemian On 19/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I tried to contact the port maintainer, but haven't heard anything back. > > I'd like to use US Robotics usr5410 wireless pcmcia card on my FBSD 6.3 > laptop. I understand this card is (was?) supported by port net/acx100. > However, the net/acx100/Makefile has: > > BROKEN= Does not compile on FreeBSD >= 6.x > > In addition the port maintainer's website, dev.kewl.org, states that > acx100 is obsolete, and was replaced by acx100+111. However, there > is no FBSD port for acx100+111. > > Is anybody using net/acx100? On what version of FBSD? > > Is anybody using acx100+111? What is the best way to install it? > > Is anybody using usr5410? With what driver? And what version of FBSD? > > Any other advice on getting usr5410 working on FBSD 6.3? > > many thanks > anton > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 12:29:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A496016A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from diri.bris.ac.uk (diri.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A62A13C46B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by diri.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRo54-0004z2-U6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:29:52 +0000 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.184.33]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRo54-0004Hm-3z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:29:46 +0000 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1KCT9eg081531 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:29:09 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m1KCT9kX081530 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:29:09 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:29:09 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080220122909.GA81481@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: porting acx driver from dragonfly to fbsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:29:53 -0000 I note DragonFly have acx(4) driver, which supports some acx100 and acx111 wireless chips: http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/cgi/web-man?command=acx§ion=ANY There is a FBSD port for acx100, which is broken for versions > 6: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/net/acx100/ but no FBSD port for acx111, though one can presumably start it from http://dev.kewl.org/acx100+111/ Questions: 1. Any reason why acx driver exists on DragonFly but not on FBSD? 2. Is it possible and practical to port the dragonfly acx(4) driver to FBSD? 3. What is easier - to port acx driver from DragonFly to FBSD, or to develop a port for acx100+111? 4. Provided the acx100+111 FBSD port is available and working, what is more efficient - using a kernel acx module or acx built from ports? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 12:31:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB0A16A401 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C77C813C44B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 2212 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2008 12:31:18 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 20 Feb 2008 12:31:18 -0000 Message-ID: <47BC1D8E.70105@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:31:10 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lone Wolf References: <88000.36666.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <88000.36666.qm@web51101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:31:21 -0000 Hi, Lone Wolf wrote: > Thank you for explanation :) > So, if GNOME/KDE can be installed on FreeBSD, what are the advantages of BSD-based desktop systems like DesktopBSD/PC-BSD over FreeBSD? > just the graphical installer? those projects make FreeBSD easier to install and administer. I never tried one of them. Friends did but faced later smaller problems. They all could be solved the FreeBSD way. So, staying with FreeBSD gives the advantage of working with the real thing and the disadvantage of handling more complex matters in real strange ways. It is all so simple for people working with FreeBSD since years but it looks strange for people coming from different professions ... Erich > > Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, > > Lone Wolf wrote: >>>> It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. >> But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the >> special options during a standard installtion. >> > it is an option depending on your installation menthod. > >> Please correct me if I'm wrong: >> GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed by default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to. >> If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during FreeBSD installation? >> Thanks. > > There are several ways to install FreeBSD. > > The simplest would be the download of an ISO image of for the first CD, > burn it and boot the machine with it. > > You can then install all packages from the CD without an Internet > connection. > > Normally, all the things needed to have a decent computer are on this > CD. GNOME was earlier always included. > > After FreeBSD is up and running, you can install the ports system and > install any program from the ports collection via an Internet connection. > > Erich > > > > Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. > E.A Poe > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 12:35:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D691B16A408 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBEC13C4D9 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so3142888pyb.10 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:35:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=habmANXrZQZHpIey1WhFQMB8fNR6+OhJF8MEFgTyibM=; b=CLeiZm4pyexvTSIaNBIJRVcUa6wdQb2dpil0UFCI9S9bbYHfaR4ezXvo6V9hkhJnTKkGN95Je1UjuZ7H2iyFqSQFVOdUQ6HoTtcC+N+5CMAxAxUysuXLXan7V1aEXR0yEQFvruXKoDDSL5GrJsbDD5cSWdFNTSBGie4H0OQ1aVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fMRx94Rw1/eTcMuxW6ReN/PIh9DG04l41T8Re0nTE2esBbSlvJubi06oafux3gLPN/2eDN+OYJCtuqKVfKicdJrvhS0My3hCW6nhN8qkKnsyhH0UIl14fv2MeRYjGDsz5DGiFuXUlkrqTC+2XheVQJfRzwY356dyoqDHdjfq4R8= Received: by 10.65.23.7 with SMTP id a7mr16203169qbj.79.1203509389048; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:09:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.83.4 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:09:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:09:48 +0100 From: "Claus Guttesen" To: "freebsd-performance@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <47BB33AD.1050005@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <27dbfc8c0802190243y113d3059yd0c602850a4dbd6b@mail.gmail.com> <47BB33AD.1050005@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-questions , Valerio Daelli Subject: Re: Bad performance of 7.0 nfs client with Solaris nfs server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:35:27 -0000 > > we have a FreeBSD 7.0 NFS client (csup today, built world and kernel). > > It mounts a Solaris 10 NFS share. > > We have bad performance with 7.0 (3MB/s). > > We have tried both UDP and TCP mounts, both sync and async. > > This is our mount: > > > > nest.xx.xx:/data/export/hosts/bsd7.xx.xx/ /mnt/nest.xx.xx nfs > > noatime,async,-i,rw,-T,-3 > > > > Both our server (7.0 and Solaris 10) are Gigabit Ethernet, both are HP > > Proliant DL360 i386 (NIC bge0): I have a solaris 9 nfs-server (on sparc) with som TB on HDS attached to it with two qlogic-hba's. These partitions are shared to our webservers via nfs, according to my mrtg-graph I get approx. 8 MB/s at peak. I can probably get more but the requirement is not there. With four-way-servers and FreeBSD 6.2 I had a read- and write-size of 8192. I ended up with this size by copying to and from the nfs-server until I didn't get "nfs server not responding; is alive again" message. Then I upgraded to FreeBSD 7.0 in October 2007 on a new eight-way-server I started to get "not responding; alive again" during load. So I decreased rw-size to the current 2048. When I decreased the size I also avoided another problem (by accident :-) ). When uploading images I sometimes saw ImageMagick's convert went into an (almost) infinite loop, comsuming 100 % cpu (on one core) until killed. Reducing the rw-size eliminated this issue. fstab-entry: my.nfs.server:/archive /archive nfs rw,nfsv3,-w=2048,-r=2048 0 0 I'm using udp-mounts, does not appear to change performance for my part. HTH. -- regards Claus When lenity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentlest gamester is the soonest winner. Shakespeare From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 13:17:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6B816A404 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E1C13C4DB for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 20 Feb 2008 08:17:05 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id OLD40789; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:17:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 20 Feb 2008 08:16:00 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18364.10350.642689.920407@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:17:34 -0500 To: Ruben de Groot In-Reply-To: <20080220103358.GA14370@ei.bzerk.org> References: <20080220103358.GA14370@ei.bzerk.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Deian Popov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS /etc/namedb owner hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:17:07 -0000 Ruben de Groot writes: > > I have the following problem with bind: > > > > it is configured to run as bind:bind and after every reboot of the system > > all files and directories under /etc/namedb become owned by root:wheel so > > bind is unable is unable to update it's zone files after dhcpd leases IP to > > any given client. How to fix either owner, or set somewhere that the owner > > of this folder, subfolder and files is my DNS server? > > Try setting named_chroot_autoupdate to NO in your rc.conf Does this still work if you don't run chrooted? To the OP: does this happen every reboot, or when you update the system? I used to have tha latter problem, and fixed it by adding NO_BIND_ETC= true # Do not install files to /etc/namedb to /etc/make.conf. Upsides: no permission mangling, and no automatic file update. Downside: no automatic file update, though you can deal with this using mergeaster. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 13:40:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D3816A403 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Received: from ns.trinitel.com (186.161.36.72.static.reverse.ltdomains.com [72.36.161.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D3A13C43E for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Received: from proton.storspeed.com (209-163-168-124.static.tenantsolutions.net [209.163.168.124] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by ns.trinitel.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m1KD8RIP070335; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:08:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <47BC264B.8010308@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:08:27 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Claus Guttesen References: <27dbfc8c0802190243y113d3059yd0c602850a4dbd6b@mail.gmail.com> <47BB33AD.1050005@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on ns.trinitel.com Cc: "freebsd-performance@freebsd.org" , freebsd-questions , Valerio Daelli Subject: Re: Bad performance of 7.0 nfs client with Solaris nfs server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:40:52 -0000 Claus Guttesen wrote: >>> we have a FreeBSD 7.0 NFS client (csup today, built world and kernel). >>> It mounts a Solaris 10 NFS share. >>> We have bad performance with 7.0 (3MB/s). >>> We have tried both UDP and TCP mounts, both sync and async. >>> This is our mount: >>> >>> nest.xx.xx:/data/export/hosts/bsd7.xx.xx/ /mnt/nest.xx.xx nfs >>> noatime,async,-i,rw,-T,-3 >>> >>> Both our server (7.0 and Solaris 10) are Gigabit Ethernet, both are HP >>> Proliant DL360 i386 (NIC bge0): > > I have a solaris 9 nfs-server (on sparc) with som TB on HDS attached > to it with two qlogic-hba's. These partitions are shared to our > webservers via nfs, according to my mrtg-graph I get approx. 8 MB/s at > peak. I can probably get more but the requirement is not there. > > With four-way-servers and FreeBSD 6.2 I had a read- and write-size of > 8192. I ended up with this size by copying to and from the nfs-server > until I didn't get "nfs server not responding; is alive again" > message. Then I upgraded to FreeBSD 7.0 in October 2007 on a new > eight-way-server I started to get "not responding; alive again" during > load. So I decreased rw-size to the current 2048. > > When I decreased the size I also avoided another problem (by accident > :-) ). When uploading images I sometimes saw ImageMagick's convert > went into an (almost) infinite loop, comsuming 100 % cpu (on one core) > until killed. Reducing the rw-size eliminated this issue. > > fstab-entry: > > my.nfs.server:/archive /archive nfs > rw,nfsv3,-w=2048,-r=2048 0 0 > > I'm using udp-mounts, does not appear to change performance for my part. > > HTH. If FreeBSD is your NFS server, you should increase the number of nfsd threads to help with the "not responding" error. I usually run one nfsd thread per active client. Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 14:02:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8548616A418 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitrovi58@yahoo.com) Received: from web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BD2113C4D1 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:02:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitrovi58@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 56255 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Feb 2008 14:02:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=uIWFsmlCOWUD7QXiYFzPvL+OvITjCR/dyJ6lsDWgYa2NcTkY9znXo/FLdIcKvmQ9Evn7Iv6ELEnQx7F+OkqyE4ck+/zYtXMQ1KR3QrX0Rl7/5k8W6fd6dzcWTCC3YCb/99u56pMMBKtW5K83BGhQJnRTnmBzNKtkaA5kCCyr7Tc=; X-YMail-OSG: hMfK4hIVM1kdqyx4mXgkh3fzloGXda.ZtYDVVgT4csRJefLUI6cDJ8VORcQ6FglJfidF1l5iy8_BTevwgvOaFKr8aCGsCxfGJMSjTocB5P7H5tphdnxzMSO0P8aZuQ-- Received: from [82.199.200.112] by web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:02:16 PST Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:02:16 -0800 (PST) From: ivan dimitrov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080219102118.45e8b5d4.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <219569.56089.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: what is the meaning of "optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:02:18 -0000 OK, but maybe this is not my case. I am using about 10% ... "/dev/md0 3.6M 318K 3.0M 9% /storage/pub/www/ram" But dmesg reports continuously: /storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE /storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from SPACE to TIME about 10 times per sec. so, how can i stop this optimization rock-and-roll? Bill Moran wrote: In response to Brian : > ivan dimitrov wrote: > > After upgrading from freebsd-5.5-R to 6.3-R, I get the following message in dmesg: > > > > "/storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" > > > > I use a ram disk via the md driver. > > Here is the line from my fstab file: > > > > md /storage/pub/www/ram mfs rw,-s4m 2 0 > > > > Does this mean that there is some sort of error? ...and is there anything that can be done, so that I don't get this message in dmesg? > > > > Any help will be greatly appreciated :) UFS normally optimizes file placement for performance. Unfortunately, in order to do this it has to write files in such a way that it sometimes wastes some space. When the partition gets close to full, FreeBSD automatically switches to "space optimization" which doesn't waste any space, but doesn't perform as well. The short answer is, "This is happening because your partition is too close to full. It's not an error, but you should clean up some files or add space." It also has nothing to do with the difference between 5.5 and 6.3. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 14:16:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14AC16A402 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb5:7e66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E3813C448 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (vpn180155.student.utwente.nl [130.89.180.155]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1KEG141025288; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:16:03 +0100 Message-ID: <47BC3621.2070001@student.utwente.nl> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:16:01 +0000 From: "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <20080220120731.GA5960@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20080220120731.GA5960@rebelion.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: npviewer.bin.core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:16:11 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > $ ls -l npviewer.bin.core > -rw------- 1 guru wheel 12320768 19 feb 15:09 npviewer.bin.core [snip] > # find /usr -name npviewer.bin -print > /usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin > > Is it worth to file a bug report or just remove it by cron job? I would first try to investigate a little more WHY it dumps core. Perhaps you just have a symlink or permission wrong somewhere, are missing a dependency or who knows what else could be causing this. Hell, it might even be a known problem already. If you can't find the cause - and nobody here can either - there's always time for a bug report. But those are just my thoughts, Alphons -- All right, that does it Bill [Donahue]. I'm pretty sure that killing Jesus is not very Christian. -- pope Benedict XVI, South Park episode #158 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 14:21:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5A016A40A for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB4713C4EB for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A06EBC3B; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:21:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:19:39 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: ivan dimitrov Message-Id: <20080220091939.9a684ec3.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <219569.56089.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20080219102118.45e8b5d4.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <219569.56089.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is the meaning of "optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:21:38 -0000 In response to ivan dimitrov : > OK, but maybe this is not my case. I am using about 10% ... > "/dev/md0 3.6M 318K 3.0M 9% /storage/pub/www/ram" > > But dmesg reports continuously: > /storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE > /storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from SPACE to TIME > > about 10 times per sec. > > so, how can i stop this optimization rock-and-roll? You didn't mention that it was flipping back and forth before. I expect that some program is creating files, then deleting them shortly after, resulting in the partition filling up, switching to space opt, then it's not full so it switches back to time opt. However, unless you look at the partition at exactly the right moment, you don't see those files. For example, was the optimization at space at the moment you took that df? You've got a 3.6M partition. I could fill that up accidentally in less than a second. I stand by my original advice to add space. Bump it up to 16M or 32M and see if the problem goes away. Alternately, if you're _really_ worried about what's taking up an unexpected 3.0M of space, you could enable audit and track what programs are creating files there. > Bill Moran wrote: In response to Brian > : > > > ivan dimitrov wrote: > > > After upgrading from freebsd-5.5-R to 6.3-R, I get the following message in dmesg: > > > > > > "/storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE" > > > > > > I use a ram disk via the md driver. > > > Here is the line from my fstab file: > > > > > > md /storage/pub/www/ram mfs rw,-s4m 2 0 > > > > > > Does this mean that there is some sort of error? ...and is there anything that can be done, so that I don't get this message in dmesg? > > > > > > Any help will be greatly appreciated :) > > UFS normally optimizes file placement for performance. Unfortunately, > in order to do this it has to write files in such a way that it > sometimes wastes some space. When the partition gets close to full, > FreeBSD automatically switches to "space optimization" which doesn't > waste any space, but doesn't perform as well. > > The short answer is, "This is happening because your partition is too > close to full. It's not an error, but you should clean up some files > or add space." > > It also has nothing to do with the difference between 5.5 and 6.3. > > -- > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 14:37:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5421616A405 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:37:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291EA13C45A for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:37:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JRoyg-000Cm4-4y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:27:14 -0500 Message-ID: <013601c873c4$4e223cb0$6501a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:27:13 -0500 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: Root User logged in at terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:37:19 -0000 Hi all, I installed a new server this weekend and it appears I did not log out befor disconnection the keyboard and monitor. Is the a way through ssh to force a logout of the root user? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 14:43:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8A116A402 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE98613C459 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19C9405BAD; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:43:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BC3CA0.5010709@bsdforen.de> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:43:44 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <013601c873c4$4e223cb0$6501a8c0@GRANT> In-Reply-To: <013601c873c4$4e223cb0$6501a8c0@GRANT> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root User logged in at terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:43:47 -0000 Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > I installed a new server this weekend and it appears I did not log out > befor disconnection the keyboard and monitor. > > Is the a way through ssh to force a logout of the root user? > > -Grant You can hijack the terminal using "watch -W". After taking over a terminal, hit CTRL-C to provoke some output and remove any commands that might be left standing. Then you can simply logout. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 14:52:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD47B16A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb5:7e66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CB813C457 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (vpn180155.student.utwente.nl [130.89.180.155]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1KEps41001451; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:51:56 +0100 Message-ID: <47BC3E8A.8050309@student.utwente.nl> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:51:54 +0000 From: "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <013601c873c4$4e223cb0$6501a8c0@GRANT> In-Reply-To: <013601c873c4$4e223cb0$6501a8c0@GRANT> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root User logged in at terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:52:01 -0000 Grant Peel wrote: > Is the a way through ssh to force a logout of the root user? Can't you login (over SSH) as a mortal user (must be in wheel), su to root and kill the offending login session? Alphons -- All right, that does it Bill [Donahue]. I'm pretty sure that killing Jesus is not very Christian. -- pope Benedict XVI, South Park episode #158 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 14:57:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC0C16A402 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CFD13C467 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:57:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 16E07619A; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:57:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3357B6167 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:57:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by torus.slightlystrange.org (8.14.2/8.13.4/Submit) id m1KEvfmi048004 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:57:41 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:57:40 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080220145740.GA41552@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <013601c873c4$4e223cb0$6501a8c0@GRANT> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <013601c873c4$4e223cb0$6501a8c0@GRANT> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RC2 i386 Subject: Re: Root User logged in at terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:57:45 -0000 --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:27:13AM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > I installed a new server this weekend and it appears I did not log out=20 > befor disconnection the keyboard and monitor. >=20 > Is the a way through ssh to force a logout of the root user? Sure. Find out the pid of the shell running on the tty, and kill it. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHvD/kixf5fBYiFmoRAmPxAKDQ6/x1CDKKGcArwDgGU+d1SJOMxACeIMRp W8k/u3dmEopfhspkEevt3f4= =E3kv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 15:27:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131E416A400; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:27:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mythtv@logic-q.nl) Received: from viefep23-int.chello.at (viefep18-int.chello.at [213.46.255.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F4E13C43E; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mythtv@logic-q.nl) Received: from mail.logic-q.nl ([77.249.130.138]) by viefep31-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.02 201-2186-121-104-20070414) with ESMTP id <20080220151039.UHGP21497.viefep31-int.chello.at@mail.logic-q.nl>; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:10:39 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.logic-q.nl [127.0.0.1]) by mail.logic-q.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D02F176A5; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:10:37 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at logic-q.nl Received: from mail.logic-q.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.logic-q.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r2+s7rWIxRH7; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:10:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from kotsbak (kotsbak.logic-q.loc [192.168.0.199]) by mail.logic-q.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F96217694; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:10:34 +0100 (CET) From: "Hansa" To: , Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:10:24 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Cc: Subject: Upgrading from FreeBSD 6.2 to FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:27:15 -0000 Hi, On a test system, I'm trying to upgrade FreeBSD 6.2 to 7.0 using the instructions from Ralf Engelschall. http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/upgrade/freebsd-upgrade-6x-7x.txt I'm stuck at compiling the new kernel. Here are the steps I took: - install backward compatibility files localedata-5.4.tbz compat6x-i386-6.x.xxxxxx.yyyymm.tbz from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-current/All also tried upgrading with the files from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/All Same result however - install latest FreeBSD Upgrade Toolkit http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/dist/freebsd-adm-1.2.2.tar.gz - upgrade /usr/src $ cd /usr/src && make cleandir reports an error if there is nothing to clean $ cd /usr/adm && make update runs just fine. - upgrade kernel configuration I've added/checked if the options with ">>" in rse's howto are in /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC (or in my case 'hostname -s' /sys/i386/conf/TESTRABIT) I've removed/checked that the options with "<<" are not in TESTRABIT - prepare the upgrade $ mergemaster -p - build new system $ cd /usr/adm && make world-build runs without problems $ make kernel-build ==== PROBS ==== Building kernel+modules (TESTRABIT) -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for TESTRABIT started on Wed Feb 20 16:03:46 CET 2008 -------------------------------------------------------------- ===> TESTRABIT mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/sys -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bi n:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/o bj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/ usr/bin config -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TESTRABIT /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TESTRABIT /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TESTRABIT: unknown option "IPSEC_ESP" *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. kernel build duration: 00:00:00 ==== STUCK ==== My guess is that the ipsec (crypto?) source code is missing? Is this correct? If so, where can I find it and where should I put it? Best regards, Hansa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 15:34:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC96016A404; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999FF13C455; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from lava.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [199.212.134.18]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1KFYJXY033296; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:34:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from mdt-xp.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [192.168.43.27]) by lava.sentex.ca (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m1KFYJfx016149 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:34:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <200802201534.m1KFYJfx016149@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:34:19 -0500 To: "Hansa" , , From: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 6.2 to FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:34:22 -0000 At 10:10 AM 2/20/2008, Hansa wrote: >/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TESTRABIT: unknown option "IPSEC_ESP" >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src. >kernel build duration: 00:00:00 >==== STUCK ==== > >My guess is that the ipsec (crypto?) source code is missing? Is this >correct? If so, where can I find it and where should I put it? Hi, The options for IPSEC are different in RELENG_7. The KAME implementation is no longer there as its just FAST_IPSEC. So get rid of IPSEC_ESP and just have options IPSEC device crypto in your kernel. ---Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 15:35:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11EC16A47B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDBF13C448 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 21599 invoked by uid 0); 20 Feb 2008 15:35:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp5.knology.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 15:35:54 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id A807E2840A; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:35:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:35:54 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080220153554.GA23312@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:35:56 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:02:25AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Nutshell, I'd like anyone's ideas/experiences with some of these > new HP/<<< or whateverbrand>>> printers. I wouldn't *mind* if I > could scan in text from a techy paper into HTML or PDF or text. > But mostly, like 99.44% plain black text. My old deskjet used > gs as a filter to print PostScript. Do we have any such plugin > support, or are printers still roll-your-own? [FWIW, I can't > seem to get CUPS working... altho it maay be my misssing > /dev/lpt0.] I have been pleased with my purchase of a Brother HL-5250DN several years ago. Was $250 at the time, usually can be found on sale now for under $200. Refurbished HL-5240's under $100. This is a 30 ppm (rated) laser with ethernet, USB, HPL-6 and Brother's Postscript-3 clone. Also prints duplex. 3rd party toner refills are $20 for roughly 7,000 pages. Drum is rated at 25,000 pages. If it doesn't last that long a new or refurbished printer is cheaper than a replacement drum. Have fond memories of old HP-4000N, HP-4050N, and HP-5000N printers but nothing used was available as inexpensive as the Brother was. The Brother is better suited for my uses as its very quick to warm up from sleep, maybe as fast as my DJ-990. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 15:36:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC37716A419; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A08B13C45D; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m1KFaYR4092986; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:36:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m1KFaY1C092985; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:36:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:36:34 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200802201536.m1KFaY1C092985@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, mythtv@logic-q.nl In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-current User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:36:35 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 6.2 to FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, mythtv@logic-q.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:36:37 -0000 Crossposting to -current and -questions is usually not a good idea. This question belongs to -questions only. Hansa wrote: > On a test system, I'm trying to upgrade FreeBSD 6.2 to 7.0 using the > instructions from Ralf Engelschall. > http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/upgrade/freebsd-upgrade-6x-7x.txt > I'm stuck at compiling the new kernel. > [...] > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TESTRABIT: unknown option "IPSEC_ESP" The option IPSEC_ESP was removed when KAME was replaced with the FAST_IPSEC implementation. Please remove that line from your kernel config file. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "I learned Java 3 years before Python. It was my language of choice. It took me two weekends with Python before I was more productive with it than with Java." -- Anthony Roberts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 15:37:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6066016A401 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060FD13C457 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 20 Feb 2008 10:37:53 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id OLD73456; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:37:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 20 Feb 2008 10:36:44 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18364.18797.376746.641314@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:38:21 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47BC3621.2070001@student.utwente.nl> References: <20080220120731.GA5960@rebelion.Sisis.de> <47BC3621.2070001@student.utwente.nl> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: npviewer.bin.core X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:37:54 -0000 "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" writes: > > -rw------- 1 guru wheel 12320768 19 feb 15:09 npviewer.bin.core > > > > Is it worth to file a bug report or just remove it by cron job? > > I would first try to investigate a little more WHY it dumps > core. Perhaps you just have a symlink or permission wrong > somewhere, are missing a dependency or who knows what else could > be causing this. Hell, it might even be a known problem > already. If you can't find the cause - and nobody here can either > - there's always time for a bug report. There are no PRs - open or otherwise - with "npviewer.bin" or "nsplugginwrapper". I'm also having a issue, which may or may not be related. huff@> ps -cjx | grep viewer huff 7087 7077 7045 7045 0 S ?? 47:42.51 seamonkey-bin huff 39430 7087 7045 7045 0 Z ?? 0:04.23 npviewer.bin huff 49304 7087 7045 7045 0 Z ?? 0:00.64 npviewer.bin huff 71938 7087 7045 7045 0 Z ?? 0:03.01 npviewer.bin Multiple instances, each consuming resources and slowing down the browser. Sometimes there are as any as 20 copies. Killing then doesn't always work, and sometimes crashes X or even the machine. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 15:50:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2078F16A403 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:50:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8D713C469 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1KFnbq3003468; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:49:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1KFnXnU003465; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:49:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:49:33 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Grant Peel In-Reply-To: <013601c873c4$4e223cb0$6501a8c0@GRANT> Message-ID: <20080220164843.U3460@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <013601c873c4$4e223cb0$6501a8c0@GRANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root User logged in at terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:50:10 -0000 yes ps axt|grep bash (or sh or csh or what shell you use as root) and find what is on local terminal (these beginning with "v") and then kill -HUP process number On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > I installed a new server this weekend and it appears I did not log out befor > disconnection the keyboard and monitor. > > Is the a way through ssh to force a logout of the root user? > > -Grant > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 15:52:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C25816A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212EE13C455 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so1271864ele.3 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:52:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=2mSyNS3yEFd0JHpTond7+1JCm/6iaM0c9+WI1gbVb7E=; b=Bzx4RfVBApMZHy6VwOgI2Ji2+mwk7pZjg0pYacOfEZt4IyUXNnMh0WbZ02B6wPXA776s8JeS0Anb6AcDzweRGIGN9CcyjZewjnGyz160sMKaIbUfAkfFYhPC7CZNynNaX+I75UjYhEZmYYMxYvg0a3JfNJkLv86YvTmAQxBPbc0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=WOz43EMW2JQm9fVyDdgNmW1x84kAStDxlW+xT1r9BYESwzvLRoQoZzHClah8m2zP3qXNb512+o0ys1MhoaYlT2JB4h+p6z9/ESD7SKlLPn/ZhQhA2JbdplMzGZohNSVpQ2n5q6lzbKAeW/6MCAmSljWHOY8Tial+gxCQbPEkP0I= Received: by 10.142.76.4 with SMTP id y4mr6629346wfa.31.1203522726490; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.143.10 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:52:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90802200752h21d0547bmde5ccd6d5f43222d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:52:06 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6885d981094b1499 Subject: mouse works on console, not in Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:52:08 -0000 I thought my mouse was toast, until I ctrl-alt-F2'd back to a console, and it works fine there. I don't see this covered in the handbook. I've got two other FreeBSD systems: one 6.3 and one 7.0-RC1, and with both of those you plug the usb mouse in and 'it just works'. I've tried the new system with both no xorg.conf, as well as an xorg.conf that points at /dev/sysmouse and one that points at /dev/ums0, and I'm having no luck here. My brand-new 1680x1050 monitor 'just works', surprisingly! I didn't even have to do the ModeLine in the handbook until I made a new xorg.conf file. Thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 15:52:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CBB16A46B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B107B13C461 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRrFN-00020u-Iy; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:52:39 +0000 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.184.33]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JRrFM-0006yc-6t; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:52:37 +0000 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1KFn1PN001699; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:49:01 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m1KFn1Kk001698; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:49:01 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:49:01 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Kemian Dang Message-ID: <20080220154901.GA1674@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Kemian Dang , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080201111805.GA7580@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <20080219142254.GA77217@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <82f916c90802200421n2b22229alc9e40f64373c4b45@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <82f916c90802200421n2b22229alc9e40f64373c4b45@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port net/acx100 for usr5410 pcmcia wireless FBSD 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:52:41 -0000 > On 19/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I tried to contact the port maintainer, but haven't heard anything back. > > > > I'd like to use US Robotics usr5410 wireless pcmcia card on my FBSD 6.3 > > laptop. I understand this card is (was?) supported by port net/acx100. > > However, the net/acx100/Makefile has: > > > > BROKEN= Does not compile on FreeBSD >= 6.x > > > > In addition the port maintainer's website, dev.kewl.org, states that > > acx100 is obsolete, and was replaced by acx100+111. However, there > > is no FBSD port for acx100+111. > > > > Is anybody using net/acx100? On what version of FBSD? > > > > Is anybody using acx100+111? What is the best way to install it? > > > > Is anybody using usr5410? With what driver? And what version of FBSD? > > > > Any other advice on getting usr5410 working on FBSD 6.3? > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:21:22PM +0000, Kemian Dang wrote: > Try ndis, it works for my broadcom wireless adapter. I added ndis to the kernel and built the kernel module using http://www.linuxant.com/usr11gv40q.zip driver. However, when I load the module: # kldstat -vn usr* Id Refs Address Size Name 2 1 0xc216c000 3d000 usr11g_sys.ko Contains modules: Id Name 180 pci/usr11g_sys 181 cardbus/usr11g_sys 182 pccard/usr11g_sys 183 uhub/usr11g_sys # I get errors. From dmesg: cardbus1: Expecting link target, got 0xed cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=2000 cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=14, size=20000 ndis0: mem 0x88020000-0x88021fff,0x88000000-0x8801ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus1 ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 ndis0: init handler failed device_attach: ndis0 attach returned 6 What am I doing wrong? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 15:55:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544AE16A407 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BE813C46B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1KFrS1h003532; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:53:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1KFrOrk003523; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:53:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:53:24 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Pieter de Goeje In-Reply-To: <200802201237.22193.pieter@degoeje.nl> Message-ID: <20080220165301.G3522@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <001c01c873a9$7b82dc20$2601a8c0@junior> <20080220114831.H1900@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200802201237.22193.pieter@degoeje.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "klerfe \[Bodegas\]" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTPD and IExplore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:55:15 -0000 >> that's it. > This answer leaves a lot to be desired. If you have something useful to add > please do, but otherwise leave it up to other people to answer such > questions. > > -- > Pieter de Goeje > > already added - it is not FreeBSD FTPD's fault. so what else? ask microsoft for more From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 15:55:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5981B16A534 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A74A13C459 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2155561fgg.35 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:55:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=kH0LpZ7vlzriJAVdwbSwsMSzoRKi7XuGCBAC0D43ovE=; b=om13y85nCQ+1xHs3CJlSIZWMetCLzK/MzBb1KUybmuLpk87jCwUghVm8j2d4Dp4qO12SYa8OsxiKcRA+oXze2YZu8xIjolPASa7NQxv76Vo2mQzvQ+xvNbmj272ZyHR3GdQbZmI29sskPZ/rK5UxBcrQLJhcqWrIq5uBJ0f5hg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=srMU/+JO3DrD5zmR1A+sJoUbGVCXc8SdveA10++tuDlT5TrDjfC7g3UD+m32z/L6JQMuRJaG66QXHfa+AcjPHswnQlJh7LlFSQfPf1UpezaAwaQDDA5AIYAr59zkIUGZbV+FO5gI5Nr7u3CSCZTRLsl7RMDEaK1h9oHpPsaDTdw= Received: by 10.82.187.2 with SMTP id k2mr16556693buf.19.1203522922815; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.120.14 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:55:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:55:22 +0200 From: "Deian Popov" To: "Robert Huff" In-Reply-To: <18364.10350.642689.920407@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080220103358.GA14370@ei.bzerk.org> <18364.10350.642689.920407@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ruben de Groot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS /etc/namedb owner hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:55:25 -0000 Thank you both, you solved the problem! On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > Ruben de Groot writes: > > > > I have the following problem with bind: > > > > > > it is configured to run as bind:bind and after every reboot of the > system > > > all files and directories under /etc/namedb become owned by > root:wheel so > > > bind is unable is unable to update it's zone files after dhcpd leases > IP to > > > any given client. How to fix either owner, or set somewhere that the > owner > > > of this folder, subfolder and files is my DNS server? > > > > Try setting named_chroot_autoupdate to NO in your rc.conf > > Does this still work if you don't run chrooted? > To the OP: does this happen every reboot, or when you update the > system? I used to have tha latter problem, and fixed it by adding > > NO_BIND_ETC= true # Do not install files to /etc/namedb > > to /etc/make.conf. Upsides: no permission mangling, and no > automatic file update. Downside: no automatic file update, though > you can deal with this using mergeaster. > > > Robert Huff > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 15:58:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2381816A406 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB3A13C465 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:58:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1KFsR8R055916; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:54:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1KFsRPo055915; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:54:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:54:27 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Lone Wolf Message-ID: <20080220155427.GB55837@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080219155810.GD45840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <361971.54402.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <361971.54402.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:58:34 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 03:34:31AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: > >>It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. > But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the > special options during a standard installtion. > > Please correct me if I'm wrong: > GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed > by default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to. > If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during > FreeBSD installation? > Thanks. This depends on which ISO you use and your method of installation. I normally just use the cd to load the installation programs - sysinstall - and download everything over the net during installation. But, you can install from the stuff on the CD set and Gnome and KDE are in that set as well as many other things. Note that ports are continuously updated, so the one you install over the net could be newer than the one from the CD. ////jerry > > Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:19:51AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: > > > I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive > > with FreeBSD . > > Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? > > I suppose it depends on the graphics card model, but probably. > Check that hardware compatibility list. In this case it would > be compatibility with Xorg since that is the display/graphics system. > > > Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? > > It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. > But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the > special options during a standard installtion. > > > Thanks demons! > > That is daemon, not demon. > There is a big difference. > > ////jerry > > > > > Olivier Nicole wrote: > I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. > > > --- > > > Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH > > > RAM: 192 MB > > > --- > > > Is my hard ware sufficient? > > > > Sufficient to do what? > > > > Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with > > something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. > > > > I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. > > > > Olivier > > > > > > > > Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. > > E.A Poe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. > E.A Poe > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 16:02:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98F216A407 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A9B13C467 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so862022nfb.33 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:02:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=0ON4vC2J4qoP+XqTJblhWY4L4gSHAgNbyaDK6o3Knck=; b=Kt9t3GivoKkZvBrMhHlpNkcO7lm4FvVFdpqvSFzsUvEPgcJmeZvE8z5izDj6Ofo81vKvZzwTIj9fEqTihACEdFz8I6tS8DjXltYj70PAKqlbQB33YApw1OPyFnIeh/W6bIMXYuNvGHS7H7dFlxx3FLFHEZERQUeA/Qu5Y8v9gJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=DYvk+ga9iTQZXlgqCMG3OX0DA+WQvgMXVRQhz0fUzQYUWEpwk57oWE+oQJQHbAB6DFFps6Ps1f6PDgOm1mt3KwX5zr4E4pJXYyds+j4UMuKjrVBBCqMXov8J7MHrMjdmVMbkRS39Zx1Hse9TMJJekJxmaWZ2PBD25A6L8krNbiY= Received: by 10.78.181.13 with SMTP id d13mr13701802huf.52.1203523342595; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:02:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.5 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:02:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802200802r790ea5b1ye6f1a331b15ed6f4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:02:22 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: security of a new installation / steps to take X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:02:25 -0000 Dear all, In a matter of weeks we will be moving our office "server" replacing it with a dedicated server machine functioning at an ISP's location. I have spoken to them and they use Fedora so they won't be able to help me much (besides we're not really prepared to pay them for administrative work). Obviously, I want to keep using FreeBSD so they promised to set up a basic installation so that I can remotely connect to the server, configure it, install userland, etc. So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc. Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some advice from you re the basic steps. For example, I guess I will need to make friends with pf firewall (I did use it but not extensively due to the hardware router in place). I will need to disallow direct (3306) access to mysql database (again pf thing?) and the like. In any case, many thanks for your hints, tips, links to get started (I actually plan to use an old box in office to test-install everything and only then do the same remotely). I have been using FreeBSD for 1,5 year but I know how little I know so I'm ready to learn. Thanks for FreeBSD and your help! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 16:06:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B7016A410 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EBF13C467 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deianp@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so2986820fka.11 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:06:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=YjcF/LWzvch6X88V4mTzHbTd0xdTMVwA3XxOcJx6Vjc=; b=xxe2wsDd9Mm6/D+BGrMRTwhB0yzseD3D++aqBlNvrz/179yRAJWg6qEXJbeNo3RPnFVbiCEfPB+c4Yy+0DJiL2TeJP4BlSgbjHCn24wwM+yCRDpHbihA5z1239e1dQhTPCW/hEM8FHRj4D+DWnHEtAvkBxA0lPsh5PY6wT+7XOc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=BksgmO6nHC6C3QJrn8VcUSRy8LPrvpzx+eqwpB3GHKRkCUNH9pkayRFLWlN4UIWIia4io/P8rM9610M6JVPSH6XG82PS+gZlM3+8ZN0R95/8Eb20RhadJjuUcueqnD+rO48GThDIYmFTTbJAvVGYDgzbfWpbGoSefRCgQr/mruU= Received: by 10.82.112.3 with SMTP id k3mr16608164buc.15.1203523583933; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.120.14 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:06:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:06:23 +0200 From: "Deian Popov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: PF connection pool + squid 3 oddity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:06:26 -0000 Hello, I have very odd problem with pf connection pool(2 ISPs) and squid 3. Just to mention, I support 3 other networks without connection pool. All of them work using squid and pf but do not use connection pool. If I setup my browser to use proxy (e.g. gateway port 3128), all traffic passes through squid. If I use rdr rule (as I should) I am unable to browse web. My question is what is the difference between the request from browser instructed to use proxy, and the rdr rule of pf. Why are my requests dying? I will not attach squid.conf since I have changed just the allowed network and have added "transparent".Here is my sample pf.conf: lan_net = "192.168.0.0/24" int_if = "rl0" ext_if1 = "dc0" ext_if2 = "rl1" ext_gw1 = "X1" ext_gw2 = "X2" local_host = "127.0.0.1" # define ports ports_in = "{9000}" ports_out = "{21, 25, 53, 80, 110, 443, 1863, 1194, 5190, 5222, 9000}" # define allowed hosts table persist file "/etc/allowed" # skip l0 set skip on lo0 # default block policy set block-policy drop # normalize packets scrub in all fragment reassemble # squid it #rdr on $int_if inet proto tcp to port 80 -> $local_host port 3128 # nat outgoing connections on each internet interface # nat on $ext_if1 from $lan_net to any -> ($ext_if1) # nat on $ext_if2 from $lan_net to any -> ($ext_if2) nat on $ext_if1 from to any -> ($ext_if1) nat on $ext_if2 from to any -> ($ext_if2) # spoof protection antispoof quick for {$int_if, $ext_if1, $ext_if2} # default deny block in log from any to any block out log from any to any # pass all outgoing packets on internal interface pass out on $int_if from any to $lan_net # pass in quick any packets destined for the gateway itself pass in quick on $int_if from $lan_net to $int_if pass out quick on $int_if from $int_if to $lan_net # load balance outgoing tcp traffic from internal network. pass in on $int_if route-to \ { ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1), ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) } round-robin \ proto tcp from $lan_net to any flags S/SA modulate state # load balance outgoing udp and icmp traffic from internal network pass in on $int_if route-to \ { ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1), ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) } round-robin \ proto { udp, icmp } from $lan_net to any keep state # general "pass in" rules for external interfaces pass in on $ext_if1 proto tcp from any to $ext_if1 port $ports_in pass in on $ext_if2 proto tcp from any to $ext_if2 port $ports_in # general "pass out" rules for external interfaces pass out on $ext_if1 proto tcp from any to any port $ports_out flags S/SA modulate state pass out on $ext_if1 proto udp from any to any port $ports_out keep state pass out on $ext_if1 proto icmp from any to any keep state pass out on $ext_if2 proto tcp from any to any port $ports_out flags S/SA modulate state pass out on $ext_if2 proto udp from any to any port $ports_out keep state pass out on $ext_if2 proto icmp from any to any keep state # route packets from any IPs on $ext_if1 to $ext_gw1 and the same for # $ext_if2 and $ext_gw2 pass out on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from $ext_if2 to any pass out on $ext_if2 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from $ext_if1 to any Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 16:10:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820A116A401 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E54913C457 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so3982346waf.3 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:10:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=TdYTmeqEkbQRkYrec7qQVxmiYDSNzQk2V65y+YZ0Ypg=; b=J14VI6iG+7/LX9swnbmzuHv7+yPmKVTO5Zc/T+vVtPJ9g9iexOcCE7t/vUco3wZvPwpqG5vEthU6m4cbeMoe+3TSj/TStZfyOeOZbMZTVYF7vNC9sZe2hfbqUtfgXIis4Jm2TEMxBMNJhHNrPwbBbuzx55EDK8HuDRdkE+fvkJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WdGW886G/3RmbL7ZFLfwn0U9TaGOC0tb02c5PFUgAFfXLrRt141JLuwInnku45bTSLaCOTPxXzcnZkwMw959fJC7PIiMfWHB5xc1Q02FmuxdHjIOw3WEMLh2cqwAvLGRPijdEy+Xq5djqbtsvvPkMFbVqn3JfpIyeJytW74LJrY= Received: by 10.114.106.1 with SMTP id e1mr8069651wac.95.1203523800450; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.13.16 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:10:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8d23ec860802200810yb6d0d37t5f13edb18669054b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:10:00 -0500 From: Schiz0 To: "Zbigniew Szalbot" In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0802200802r790ea5b1ye6f1a331b15ed6f4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <94136a2c0802200802r790ea5b1ye6f1a331b15ed6f4@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: security of a new installation / steps to take X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:10:01 -0000 On Feb 20, 2008 11:02 AM, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Dear all, > > In a matter of weeks we will be moving our office "server" replacing > it with a dedicated server machine functioning at an ISP's location. I > have spoken to them and they use Fedora so they won't be able to help > me much (besides we're not really prepared to pay them for > administrative work). Obviously, I want to keep using FreeBSD so they > promised to set up a basic installation so that I can remotely connect > to the server, configure it, install userland, etc. > > So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware > firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc. > Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot > more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of > steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install > applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some > advice from you re the basic steps. > > For example, I guess I will need to make friends with pf firewall (I > did use it but not extensively due to the hardware router in place). I > will need to disallow direct (3306) access to mysql database (again pf > thing?) and the like. > > In any case, many thanks for your hints, tips, links to get started (I > actually plan to use an old box in office to test-install everything > and only then do the same remotely). I have been using FreeBSD for 1,5 > year but I know how little I know so I'm ready to learn. > > Thanks for FreeBSD and your help! > > -- > Zbigniew Szalbot For PF, see: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-pf.html and http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 16:12:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E91516A402 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:12:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E8313C447 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:12:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA35405486; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:12:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BC5155.8070605@bsdforen.de> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:12:05 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90802200752h21d0547bmde5ccd6d5f43222d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802200752h21d0547bmde5ccd6d5f43222d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: mouse works on console, not in Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:12:07 -0000 Steve Franks wrote: > I thought my mouse was toast, until I ctrl-alt-F2'd back to a console, > and it works fine there. I don't see this covered in the handbook. > I've got two other FreeBSD systems: one 6.3 and one 7.0-RC1, and with > both of those you plug the usb mouse in and 'it just works'. I've > tried the new system with both no xorg.conf, as well as an xorg.conf > that points at /dev/sysmouse and one that points at /dev/ums0, and I'm > having no luck here. My brand-new 1680x1050 monitor 'just works', > surprisingly! I didn't even have to do the ModeLine in the handbook > until I made a new xorg.conf file. If it works on the console, /dev/sysmouse aught to be the right one. Please post the InputDevice section for your mouse. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 16:15:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3217916A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail2arthur@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F8F13C458 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail2arthur@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id h53so2246097hsh.11 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:14:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=BTho4+LvYrWnULYXh6VWsJ4UVBTsvsHjRq/KjRJ8xQQ=; b=RQl9TVbNfbgQe2SKvFa0zMDyP+gUR3LkABRHtbeDZJPRZiS+f8ISn0J9C3UdIdn/9E6PexzpmBsn55/e5xtRR2MFofr2f8y981GNhKnavtGf7SSN5HXUHCYk/rHCvm6OF/yNR3R4lwK44WPxj1WMyLUhlQz7ZFI7mi5FT5zmqyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=otu5VrqkOuniIufdAa5McBPuWwJJGDetesdw2B4ZnKMeDTfTllwRFtlpeFT6Bj39w5kL06wTSlzYSvn5uPF7XMj9EEFu2YkQPXxW7NetVqNHlLJiFY/1nVQ4vBk7oukvJSATciCGbOGNIhRhdpOGc8qdqWQlC74OfG9eKNYFt5g= Received: by 10.100.208.11 with SMTP id f11mr17419935ang.92.1203524099221; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from cawnpr20310 ( [207.219.14.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a29sm9059217qbd.4.2008.02.20.08.14.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:14:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001301c873db$bcf9d1e0$9b080f0a@usr.ingenico.loc> From: "arthur" To: "Jerry McAllister" , "Lone Wolf" , References: <20080219155810.GD45840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu><361971.54402.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080220155427.GB55837@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:14:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:15:00 -0000 > I normally just use the cd to load the installation programs - sysinstall - > and download everything over the net during installation. I have v6.2 cd but I am going to try 7.0, but I don't mind if the KDE/app is latest. So do you think I can: 1. boot with 6.2CD, run sysinstall, then install v7.0 over the network 2. install kde or other app to v7.0 installation from a 6.2 CD Thanks. Arthur From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 16:18:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B9516A402 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8411B13C46B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1KGDudu056048; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:13:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1KGDuln056047; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:13:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:13:56 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: arthur Message-ID: <20080220161356.GA56028@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080220155427.GB55837@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <001301c873db$bcf9d1e0$9b080f0a@usr.ingenico.loc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001301c873db$bcf9d1e0$9b080f0a@usr.ingenico.loc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , Lone Wolf , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:18:02 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:14:52AM -0500, arthur wrote: > > I normally just use the cd to load the installation programs - > sysinstall - > > and download everything over the net during installation. > > I have v6.2 cd but I am going to try 7.0, but I don't mind if the KDE/app is > latest. > > So do you think I can: > > 1. boot with 6.2CD, run sysinstall, then install v7.0 over the network > > 2. install kde or other app to v7.0 installation from a 6.2 CD No. You really want to download the 7.0 ISO and burn it and install the applications intended for that level. You could make it work, but you don't want to. ////jerry > > Thanks. > > Arthur > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 16:32:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F6516A40B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7236B13C465 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from localhost (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D602BEBC3B; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:32:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:33:13 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: "Zbigniew Szalbot" Message-Id: <20080220113313.334d852d.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0802200802r790ea5b1ye6f1a331b15ed6f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <94136a2c0802200802r790ea5b1ye6f1a331b15ed6f4@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: security of a new installation / steps to take X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:32:15 -0000 On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:02:22 +0100 "Zbigniew Szalbot" wrote: > > In a matter of weeks we will be moving our office "server" replacing > it with a dedicated server machine functioning at an ISP's location. I > have spoken to them and they use Fedora so they won't be able to help > me much (besides we're not really prepared to pay them for > administrative work). Obviously, I want to keep using FreeBSD so they > promised to set up a basic installation so that I can remotely connect > to the server, configure it, install userland, etc. > > So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware > firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc. > Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot > more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of > steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install > applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some > advice from you re the basic steps. > > For example, I guess I will need to make friends with pf firewall (I > did use it but not extensively due to the hardware router in place). I > will need to disallow direct (3306) access to mysql database (again pf > thing?) and the like. Build a "deny by default" firewall. There are lots of advantages to it. See my explanation of my personal server: http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/16 Don't apply that technique blindly, the policy I use there is not appropriate for everyone. Rather, read through that to understand more about how to create a deny by default ruleset and adjust the details to meet your needs. Another thing that's extremely powerful is integrity monitoring using something like Tripwire or Samhain. If you're building a firewall remotely, create a cron job that disables the firewall every 30 minutes. (i.e. pfctl -d). Then, if you tweak your firewall rules in such a way that you lock yourself out, you just need to wait 30 minutes before you can get back in. Once you're sure your rules are working as you want, disable the cron job. Always leave yourself a back door (see the whitelist rule I have in the link above) so you don't accidentally get locked out. If your hosting provider can give you a serial console into the machine, that's the best option, but it's getting less commonly available these days. And don't be afraid to ask specific questions if you get stuck on details while you're setting it up. > In any case, many thanks for your hints, tips, links to get started (I > actually plan to use an old box in office to test-install everything > and only then do the same remotely). I have been using FreeBSD for 1,5 > year but I know how little I know so I'm ready to learn. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 16:39:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9A116A403 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E23713C46A for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so3250878pyb.10 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:39:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=cd88xYnR0Apun8E9ZNL/LA0oZtpXhI8jLppfi8w4sDw=; b=d5iR3oWu99fDXpUcuo1IMgLpGKnZfJ5LV6mEPj10jUo/Qp7PV7sQpzd5LrHH8YkafS3/9s5isPaiJTP7181q2Hh6qbcvoZRWeh8fpRQV6T2QWo1GagNtq0ze4yFAHUXd623tqaSOcIjcfW4syZUozXK+VBq1iMpz35KdcNVEiiE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=I+lcTSwf4js3T8ovSylxiffiPg7sQWp3YUvJePI9XGYGCFV5Xig/CNCR66AtY4CE3v/VTONNCLEOrlg2wO25HOhiptP11OCqu2dzdRTfRck7E3XUfJZvPTh+TtA2FF0Z7+x4T/YwIH4CEteAWctNIyCwV2a/5KHYZrjhFimze38= Received: by 10.65.54.9 with SMTP id g9mr16839469qbk.30.1203525562378; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:39:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.209.16 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:39:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <82f916c90802200839j3580ca15i7ab59bedbd17f1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:39:22 +0000 From: "Kemian Dang" To: "Kemian Dang" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080220154901.GA1674@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080201111805.GA7580@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <20080219142254.GA77217@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <82f916c90802200421n2b22229alc9e40f64373c4b45@mail.gmail.com> <20080220154901.GA1674@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: port net/acx100 for usr5410 pcmcia wireless FBSD 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:39:23 -0000 Try add it to the /boot/loader.conf and restart to see whether it works. My ndis0 can not get response from "ifconfig ndis0 scan", but I can give it the ssid manually and make it work. kemian On 20/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On 19/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > I tried to contact the port maintainer, but haven't heard anything back. > > > > > > I'd like to use US Robotics usr5410 wireless pcmcia card on my FBSD 6.3 > > > laptop. I understand this card is (was?) supported by port net/acx100. > > > However, the net/acx100/Makefile has: > > > > > > BROKEN= Does not compile on FreeBSD >= 6.x > > > > > > In addition the port maintainer's website, dev.kewl.org, states that > > > acx100 is obsolete, and was replaced by acx100+111. However, there > > > is no FBSD port for acx100+111. > > > > > > Is anybody using net/acx100? On what version of FBSD? > > > > > > Is anybody using acx100+111? What is the best way to install it? > > > > > > Is anybody using usr5410? With what driver? And what version of FBSD? > > > > > > Any other advice on getting usr5410 working on FBSD 6.3? > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:21:22PM +0000, Kemian Dang wrote: > > Try ndis, it works for my broadcom wireless adapter. > > I added ndis to the kernel and built the kernel module using > http://www.linuxant.com/usr11gv40q.zip driver. > > However, when I load the module: > > # kldstat -vn usr* > Id Refs Address Size Name > 2 1 0xc216c000 3d000 usr11g_sys.ko > Contains modules: > Id Name > 180 pci/usr11g_sys > 181 cardbus/usr11g_sys > 182 pccard/usr11g_sys > 183 uhub/usr11g_sys > # > > I get errors. From dmesg: > > cardbus1: Expecting link target, got 0xed > cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=2000 > cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=14, size=20000 > ndis0: mem 0x88020000-0x88021fff,0x88000000-0x8801ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus1 > ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 > ndis0: init handler failed > device_attach: ndis0 attach returned 6 > > > What am I doing wrong? > > -- > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 16:49:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A7416A40D for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail2arthur@gmail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D68513C459 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail2arthur@gmail.com) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n40so395084gve.39 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:49:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=WsAvuF8MKB+9s+C86CxZZgiqlmQxm/+z7NSD1yvRlDY=; b=jBE3rxgNLsVHiXhM56EqulYWcN3Kp3YTDxRlx0JgU4i1RzkVX4R3zV03jYoR3EOpPfvcnCNJ5opArLRzxywMkWchTeD+ayveGVVl0c1m3+3b2Z5f6CUrdzYftbR876M1I8FjQrDDnzT1HRGxi8CsxU/0xIRkTp4EBje9LJ5hWrI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=SS4sYbSrXUjN9SEL1iwWToXKKKEbCL5JAg0y9yYYGMuo8R9wHbirHah9uGpbw9zcvshlcLdFhPahak4SM2RUnYU1o88Kj7ZrgfnBrpprTskRKbkuNYCB7yGvsSPCl1A+/M0Cl48kY/+sr2bRFUDtuMS3GZwDm43LD5xyoKWW5NQ= Received: by 10.150.58.5 with SMTP id g5mr2817135yba.20.1203526142471; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from cawnpr20310 ( [207.219.14.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f13sm9041894qba.20.2008.02.20.08.49.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:49:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001f01c873e0$7ecb9980$9b080f0a@usr.ingenico.loc> From: "arthur" To: "Jerry McAllister" , "Lone Wolf" , References: <20080220155427.GB55837@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <001301c873db$bcf9d1e0$9b080f0a@usr.ingenico.loc> <20080220161356.GA56028@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:48:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Cc: Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:49:05 -0000 Got it. Looks I will go with the floppy boot (don't want burn too many CD's, and burning CDRW is slower than boot from floppy). Thank you for the quick response. Arthur ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry McAllister" To: "arthur" Cc: "Jerry McAllister" ; "Lone Wolf" ; Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:14:52AM -0500, arthur wrote: > > > > I normally just use the cd to load the installation programs - > > sysinstall - > > > and download everything over the net during installation. > > > > I have v6.2 cd but I am going to try 7.0, but I don't mind if the KDE/app is > > latest. > > > > So do you think I can: > > > > 1. boot with 6.2CD, run sysinstall, then install v7.0 over the network > > > > 2. install kde or other app to v7.0 installation from a 6.2 CD > > No. You really want to download the 7.0 ISO and burn it > and install the applications intended for that level. > You could make it work, but you don't want to. > > ////jerry > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Arthur > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 17:15:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE1F16A404 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C152E13C45A for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1KHBbI2056362; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:11:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1KHBb00056361; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:11:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:11:37 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ryan Jenkins Message-ID: <20080220171137.GA56305@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> <20080219152947.GA45840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <001101c87315$d1a9e920$39c8a8c0@cg.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001101c87315$d1a9e920$39c8a8c0@cg.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:15:45 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:38:12AM -0700, Ryan Jenkins wrote: > Jerry, > > The function of the machines we are looking for is a Tower and an All-in-One > computer that will run a tracking software and only tracking software. The > software is based off the FreeBSD operating system. The software is a > general program and doesn't really have any fancy to it. For instance a > customer uses an i-Button to log into a machine and from there the software > tracks the customers time and allocates promotion points to the Customer > based on time spend on the machines. > > I have attached a sheet to this email that shows the basic components of the > current systems we are using right now. The Software Programmers have told > me that this program will run on a machine with components from at least 8 > years ago, so the system is fancy. > > The peripherals that are connected to these systems are POS Thermal Printer, > i-Button Reader, 15" ELo Touch Screen Monitor, Simple Laser Printer and a > Keyboard with a mouse if needed. First of all, always keep the list in the reply. Don't just continue asking one person or responder, unless you and they have some side thing to discuss and agree to take it off list. This is both the polite thing and has a very big practical aspect. The person responding to one part of the question, may not be the one who can respond to the rest of it. You want the whole list to see and be able to respond. Also, the list is archived in a number of places and if a solution is posted, it can assist persons in the future who can search one of the archives. Second, I don't know anything about the applications you are interested in running. If they run under FreeBSD now, then they will run on a new machine as long as it has the needed connectors perripherals and drivers. Almost any of the machines that are currently made can be configured with most peripherals and connectors. Since you want a tower, then just look at the vendors listed in that great URL Ted posted and pick an appropriately configured tower model. Any of them will work. Just get enough memory and disk and components to suit your applications. ////jerry > > > Ryan Jenkins > > P.O. Box 21138 > P: 406 896-9900 > F: 406 896-0045 > C: 406 208-8193 > Email: > rjenkins@centurygaming.biz > > Confidentiality Statement: > This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. > Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), > you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail message or any > information contained in the message. If you have received this e-mail > message in error, please advise the sender by replying to this message or by > telephone and then promptly delete it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:30 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!!!! > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 11:19:57PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Ryan > > > Jenkins > > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:20 PM > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!!!! > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD > > > Operating System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. > > > Right now I am having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture > > > that can make a system that uses FreeBSD. > > > > Hi Ryan, > > > > Please go here: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html > > > > Several of the hardware vendors on this list can supply you with > > ready-to-run FreeBSD workstations and servers, loaded to your > > specifications. > > Very good link. Covers all the ones I know of and a lot more. > > ////jerry > > > > > Ted Mittelstaedt > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 17:17:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FFF16A402 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.gold@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDEC13C469 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.gold@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so880362nfb.33 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:17:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=3X4A/mIahaWSW0wNpI4PmHxZ9TaCRY/okskBl01Ine8=; b=fTat+AiNyR1va84XPPSCuSrlf9DQzMvg5sJDdYCDPMkEZprJQHuBHihG5IPkJgLFhiaaSH4fL5V8o81mvndGm9e9/ris/mIWbvziWHbJLW71+ntBYEn5hPr8tBVbZTgBZHDBQxudLZ0Ul8d2KlDmYKNyDIjC6KAhBffI8J22PrI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=u7Ue2RF+r2QQaVYunNy7NNv2xJ4JCCzn5rEb0sIoSGKVdprIyBvXoZk7Vtvtdm7qYvQHJ8K+QyOLayTOwN8pCdgCyb5G0wsBV8GqC+ipWRR4pR5Wv59XvmjAxZE5H2C52UFGFzaMS4luzCnEJSgU3/TA5zrYVD2YaZEvNQCzx9Q= Received: by 10.78.137.7 with SMTP id k7mr13908754hud.7.1203527869170; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.19.19 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:17:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4bded9640802200917y607f87d6td6b878e62a5743bc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:17:49 -0500 From: "Jeff Gold" To: "Jerry McAllister" In-Reply-To: <20080219223316.GB47651@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4bded9640802191245q20832a83j31723763ab21a940@mail.gmail.com> <20080219213254.GB47232@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4bded9640802191349p2e0f4839p52b35f94f1457ba5@mail.gmail.com> <20080219223316.GB47651@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:17:51 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > Just to be clear; I am not suggesting deleting that 'c' partition. Thanks for the warning. I never manually delete the ad0s1c partition, but I'm using Qemu so I do usually rebuild the underlying image to clear previous state. That doesn't make things work. (I also tried *not* doing so, but the results aren't any different.) How would I check what the fstype of a bsdlabel partition is? Something I've just noticed is that even invoking sysinstall interactively doesn't change the outcome. I believe this means the FreeSBIE environment I've got set up is bad in some way. I don't understand why sysinstall would care but apparently it does. Does anyone else use mediaSetUFS or equivalent for installation? Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 17:22:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6450216A405 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5D413C4D5 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1KHM3j2032578; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:22:03 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m1KHM3j2032578 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47BC61BA.60103@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:22:02 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <94136a2c0802200802r790ea5b1ye6f1a331b15ed6f4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0802200802r790ea5b1ye6f1a331b15ed6f4@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:22:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5893/Wed Feb 20 08:07:36 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: security of a new installation / steps to take X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:22:12 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware > firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc. > Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot > more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of > steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install > applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some > advice from you re the basic steps. The important mantra to remember when securing a machine that is exposed to the internet is: What does not listen on the network cannot be used to compromise you. In practice, this means run sockstat and look for all the processes that are listening for connections on your external network interfaces. If you don't need it, then don't run it. If you don't need external access to it, then bind it to the loopback interface[1] or use it via a Unix domain socket (eg. 'skip-networking' in MySQL configuration) If you do need it, then strongly prefer encrypted versions of network protocols: IMAPS rather than IMAP, HTTPS instead of HTTP. This is particularly important if people are using password based authentication - -- otherwise you'ld be transmitting those passwords over the net in plain, where they are vulnerable to snooping. Ensure that any software that does listen on the network runs as an unprivileged UID. Ensure that the login accounts used for such daemons do not have real shells (/usr/sbin/nologin is a good choice) and preferably either have a non-existent home directory, or a home directory that the process does not own and cannot write to. The current working directory of the process (frequently /, but you can use 'fstat -p pid' and look for the 'wd' entry to find this) should similarly be unwritable by the process. If the process can run chrooted or jailed then it's a good idea to make it so. Be very wary of many web based applications, particularly those written in PHP. Sad to say, but many web developers just don't have a clue about security and commit some enormous howlers. They also love writing web- accessible configuration scripts, which you should take care to disable by changing filesystem permissions once you've done the configuring parts and also block or severely restrict access to by your webserver configuration. If anyone proposes running any PHP code that requires you to set 'register_globals' to 'on' in php.ini; well, suffice it to say, no sensible jury would convict should that person come to an ... unfortunate ... end. Make sure you track freebsd-announce@freebsd.org and apply any system patches in a timely manner. Also make full use of portaudit(1) and generally ensure that you are running up to date versions of any ported software. If you can do all the above effectively, then your machine should be pretty secure as is, even without running any severe filtering through the built in firewalls. Cheers, Matthew [1] People that understand the implications of the weak routing model as commonly seen in Unix servers (and certainly those that cannot control access to the same layer-2 network their server is on) will want to protect the loopback against spoofing attacks. The following 3-line pf.conf will do the trick: scrub in pass all antispoof log quick for lo0 - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHvGG68Mjk52CukIwRCNfQAJ9yaAXQzhNgfF31V+AtArEyDvdPigCffAuG afcraoWgVfPnUlSj4S8Zswk= =uZ1e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 17:36:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B982F16A406 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:36:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjenkins@centurygaming.biz) Received: from cns1.transaria.net (cns1.transaria.net [IPv6:2001:1940:1:1::24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5930213C442 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:36:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjenkins@centurygaming.biz) Received: from RyanPC ([69.51.117.66]) by cns1.transaria.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m1KHaqJH011191; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:36:52 GMT From: "Ryan Jenkins" To: "'Jerry McAllister'" References: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> <20080219152947.GA45840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <001101c87315$d1a9e920$39c8a8c0@cg.local> <20080220171137.GA56305@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:39:26 -0700 Message-ID: <004301c873e7$8a1068f0$39c8a8c0@cg.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Achz5DnUi88LxNGMRUKYqqQtTDQVoQAAu92w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <20080220171137.GA56305@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Importance: Low Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:36:54 -0000 Jerry, The first section you have below. I am a little confused because I am not sure what you refer to? In my emails to you I have just done Reply's instead of Reply to All, but I think that is what you may be talking about. Where are you located, I see your email is MSU.edu, what University are you with? Ryan Jenkins P.O. Box 21138 P: 406 896-9900 F: 406 896-0045 C: 406 208-8193 Email: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz Confidentiality Statement: This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:12 AM To: Ryan Jenkins Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!! On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:38:12AM -0700, Ryan Jenkins wrote: > Jerry, > > The function of the machines we are looking for is a Tower and an > All-in-One computer that will run a tracking software and only > tracking software. The software is based off the FreeBSD operating > system. The software is a general program and doesn't really have any > fancy to it. For instance a customer uses an i-Button to log into a > machine and from there the software tracks the customers time and > allocates promotion points to the Customer based on time spend on the machines. > > I have attached a sheet to this email that shows the basic components > of the current systems we are using right now. The Software > Programmers have told me that this program will run on a machine with > components from at least 8 years ago, so the system is fancy. > > The peripherals that are connected to these systems are POS Thermal > Printer, i-Button Reader, 15" ELo Touch Screen Monitor, Simple Laser Printer and a > Keyboard with a mouse if needed. First of all, always keep the list in the reply. Don't just continue asking one person or responder, unless you and they have some side thing to discuss and agree to take it off list. This is both the polite thing and has a very big practical aspect. The person responding to one part of the question, may not be the one who can respond to the rest of it. You want the whole list to see and be able to respond. Also, the list is archived in a number of places and if a solution is posted, it can assist persons in the future who can search one of the archives. Second, I don't know anything about the applications you are interested in running. If they run under FreeBSD now, then they will run on a new machine as long as it has the needed connectors perripherals and drivers. Almost any of the machines that are currently made can be configured with most peripherals and connectors. Since you want a tower, then just look at the vendors listed in that great URL Ted posted and pick an appropriately configured tower model. Any of them will work. Just get enough memory and disk and components to suit your applications. ////jerry > > > Ryan Jenkins > > P.O. Box 21138 > P: 406 896-9900 > F: 406 896-0045 > C: 406 208-8193 > Email: > rjenkins@centurygaming.biz > > Confidentiality Statement: > This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. > Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the > addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail > message or any information contained in the message. If you have > received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by > replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:30 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!!!! > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 11:19:57PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Ryan > > > Jenkins > > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:20 PM > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!!!! > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD > > > Operating System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. > > > Right now I am having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture > > > that can make a system that uses FreeBSD. > > > > Hi Ryan, > > > > Please go here: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html > > > > Several of the hardware vendors on this list can supply you with > > ready-to-run FreeBSD workstations and servers, loaded to your > > specifications. > > Very good link. Covers all the ones I know of and a lot more. > > ////jerry > > > > > Ted Mittelstaedt > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 17:41:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2961C16A402 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kjayaram@syr.edu) Received: from mx5.syr.edu (mx5.syr.edu [128.230.18.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6CF13C44B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kjayaram@syr.edu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (syru70-207.syr.edu [128.230.70.207]) by mx5.syr.edu (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m1KHJdge009255 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:19:41 -0500 Message-ID: <47BC612B.2070004@syr.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:19:39 -0500 From: Karthick Jayaraman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: InterScan AntiVirus for Sendmail Cc: Subject: Getting FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:41:48 -0000 Hello, I would like to get the FreeBSD 5.2.1 iso image for PowerPC. Please let me know where I can get them. -- Thank you, Karthick Jayaraman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 17:42:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75FC16A413 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C73D13C468 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so3022930fka.11 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:42:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GI0kODf7X1kq1z+kTsC1oh+A0+4pfTLbrqzCsunzHhA=; b=s9jxyo5n+fyGy3wWYCJPCshZLm9XykBUYBLfX3V5aXnqvI3eV3pLxMW/FrSZVF70UBCZN3DsQRE+JqE4R/sgWVq9l4wntaz9PMHDRwGPW204CCUv1i27+KRbZ+Ox0d2b402wwkTzuzmVmacIJ/iUXztWRVj4WkjOWD8IAyOltU4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=llkuxG8zIxFMHA0Sn7AGB9OfaZlgmbufq1/Wxw9VOMiCXoylysTKLyG0ofB90TGMUpwREKPYrELYsMFKQCGutITV12ZniserRRJgKNde+itD6d1tjivI5itz+KfDUxUCiOiQ89pWFv3O6aEk55cViLWh12uDY8j2QuLzPNt2nt0= Received: by 10.78.20.13 with SMTP id 13mr13842922hut.70.1203529318612; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.130.5 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:41:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <94136a2c0802200941h1f8ffd26n7c4164c51c760918@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:41:58 +0100 From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <47BC61BA.60103@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <94136a2c0802200802r790ea5b1ye6f1a331b15ed6f4@mail.gmail.com> <47BC61BA.60103@infracaninophile.co.uk> Subject: Re: security of a new installation / steps to take X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:42:04 -0000 Hello, 2008/2/20, Matthew Seaman : > Make sure you track freebsd-announce@freebsd.org and apply any system patches > in a timely manner. Also make full use of portaudit(1) and generally ensure > that you are running up to date versions of any ported software. Thaaanks! Ah... this brings me to one more question. I love 6.3 but should I wait to install 7.0? I mean I'd hate having to update a few months after the server is up and running. Especially, that any updates will be remotely handled (fortunately the ISP promises to help if need be - they are excellent and very responsive in this respect). -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 17:42:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFB216A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2287813C45D for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1KHcBx6056476; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:38:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1KHcBLi056475; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:38:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:38:11 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jeff Gold Message-ID: <20080220173811.GB56435@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4bded9640802191245q20832a83j31723763ab21a940@mail.gmail.com> <20080219213254.GB47232@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4bded9640802191349p2e0f4839p52b35f94f1457ba5@mail.gmail.com> <20080219223316.GB47651@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4bded9640802200917y607f87d6td6b878e62a5743bc@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4bded9640802200917y607f87d6td6b878e62a5743bc@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:42:21 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:17:49PM -0500, Jeff Gold wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > Just to be clear; I am not suggesting deleting that 'c' partition. > > Thanks for the warning. I never manually delete the ad0s1c partition, > but I'm using Qemu so I do usually rebuild the underlying image to > clear previous state. That doesn't make things work. (I also tried > *not* doing so, but the results aren't any different.) How would I > check what the fstype of a bsdlabel partition is? > > Something I've just noticed is that even invoking sysinstall > interactively doesn't change the outcome. I believe this means the > FreeSBIE environment I've got set up is bad in some way. I don't > understand why sysinstall would care but apparently it does. Does > anyone else use mediaSetUFS or equivalent for installation? You are beyond my experience here. And I have never tried FreeSBIE [yet]. ////jerry > > Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 17:58:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C9D16A405 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D3013C4E1 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1KHspDe056566; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:54:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1KHspu2056565; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:54:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:54:51 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20080220175451.GA56513@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <94136a2c0802200802r790ea5b1ye6f1a331b15ed6f4@mail.gmail.com> <47BC61BA.60103@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47BC61BA.60103@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Zbigniew Szalbot , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: security of a new installation / steps to take X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:58:57 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 05:22:02PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: This is a very nice summary. I will steal it and post it on the wall in our cube-maze hallway. Thanks, ////jerry > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > > So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware > > firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc. > > Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot > > more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of > > steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install > > applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some > > advice from you re the basic steps. > > The important mantra to remember when securing a machine that is exposed > to the internet is: > > What does not listen on the network cannot be used to compromise you. > > In practice, this means run sockstat and look for all the processes > that are listening for connections on your external network interfaces. > > If you don't need it, then don't run it. > > If you don't need external access to it, then bind it to the loopback > interface[1] or use it via a Unix domain socket (eg. 'skip-networking' in > MySQL configuration) > > If you do need it, then strongly prefer encrypted versions of network > protocols: IMAPS rather than IMAP, HTTPS instead of HTTP. This is > particularly important if people are using password based authentication > - -- otherwise you'ld be transmitting those passwords over the net in plain, > where they are vulnerable to snooping. > > Ensure that any software that does listen on the network runs as an > unprivileged UID. Ensure that the login accounts used for such daemons do > not have real shells (/usr/sbin/nologin is a good choice) and preferably > either have a non-existent home directory, or a home directory that the > process does not own and cannot write to. The current working directory > of the process (frequently /, but you can use 'fstat -p pid' and look > for the 'wd' entry to find this) should similarly be unwritable by > the process. If the process can run chrooted or jailed then it's a good > idea to make it so. > > Be very wary of many web based applications, particularly those written > in PHP. Sad to say, but many web developers just don't have a clue about > security and commit some enormous howlers. They also love writing web- > accessible configuration scripts, which you should take care to disable by > changing filesystem permissions once you've done the configuring parts > and also block or severely restrict access to by your webserver configuration. > If anyone proposes running any PHP code that requires you to set 'register_globals' > to 'on' in php.ini; well, suffice it to say, no sensible jury would > convict should that person come to an ... unfortunate ... end. > > Make sure you track freebsd-announce@freebsd.org and apply any system patches > in a timely manner. Also make full use of portaudit(1) and generally ensure > that you are running up to date versions of any ported software. > > If you can do all the above effectively, then your machine should be pretty > secure as is, even without running any severe filtering through the built in > firewalls. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [1] People that understand the implications of the weak routing model > as commonly seen in Unix servers (and certainly those that cannot control > access to the same layer-2 network their server is on) will want to protect > the loopback against spoofing attacks. The following 3-line pf.conf > will do the trick: > > scrub in > pass all > antispoof log quick for lo0 > > - -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHvGG68Mjk52CukIwRCNfQAJ9yaAXQzhNgfF31V+AtArEyDvdPigCffAuG > afcraoWgVfPnUlSj4S8Zswk= > =uZ1e > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 18:04:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EFE16A406 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:04:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D1E13C4DB for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1KI41hx033145; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:04:01 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m1KI41hx033145 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47BC6B90.8010106@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:04:00 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zbigniew Szalbot References: <94136a2c0802200802r790ea5b1ye6f1a331b15ed6f4@mail.gmail.com> <47BC61BA.60103@infracaninophile.co.uk> <94136a2c0802200941h1f8ffd26n7c4164c51c760918@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0802200941h1f8ffd26n7c4164c51c760918@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:04:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5893/Wed Feb 20 08:07:36 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: security of a new installation / steps to take X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:04:07 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > 2008/2/20, Matthew Seaman : >> Make sure you track freebsd-announce@freebsd.org and apply any system patches >> in a timely manner. Also make full use of portaudit(1) and generally ensure >> that you are running up to date versions of any ported software. > > Thaaanks! Ah... this brings me to one more question. I love 6.3 but > should I wait to install 7.0? I mean I'd hate having to update a few > months after the server is up and running. Especially, that any > updates will be remotely handled (fortunately the ISP promises to help > if need be - they are excellent and very responsive in this respect). Well, the 7.0 release candidates available now seem to run very stably wherever I've tried them. The make a big difference to performance, especially if you're running highly contended, multi-threaded applications. On the other hand, I've done a number of remote 6.x -> 7.0 upgrades without any huge difficulty. You run a risk of thinks screwing up if your 7.0 kernel doesn't boot properly, for which you'ld need remote hands to get you unstuck. Also, you /will/ need to recompile everything you've installed on the machine -- applications compiled under 6.x will run just fine so long as you don't do the 'delete-old-libs' step of the upgrade procedure too soon, and you can install the compat6x libs to survive even that. However having a lot of 6.x software installed will make it exceeding difficult to maintain your ports, plus the new compiler in 7.0 can get you some useful performance enhancements. That mega-recompilation step does tend to lead to some non-neglible periods of service downtime, but apart from the time consumption it's pretty routine stuff. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHvGuQ8Mjk52CukIwRCA1hAJ4jvOra+2jdgpOp9zS/DSNMOYjkDwCfYWRN HEQws1mEcw5DOsMx7ofsL8k= =i1jL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 18:01:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B4916A409 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: from ws2.cnweb.com (ws2.cnweb.com [69.50.194.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FABB13C45B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darryl@osborne-ind.com) Received: (qmail 9129 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2008 12:01:26 -0600 Received: from p245n23.ruraltel.net (HELO Europa) (24.225.23.245) by ws2.cnweb.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 12:01:26 -0600 From: "Darryl Hoar" To: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:02:30 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:19:35 +0000 Subject: Ports question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: darryl@osborne-ind.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:01:33 -0000 Greetings, I am looking to install a CMS system (something like postnuke) and want to have a blog component. Anybody have any recommendations ? If it is in the ports, it would be even better. thanks, Darryl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 18:29:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1B916A404 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [204.121.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1612213C51E for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935AE540215; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:29:54 -0700 (MST) X-CTN-5-Virus-Scanner: amavisd-new at mailwasher.lanl.gov Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80159540335; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:29:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDD1540215; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:29:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from oppie-mail.lanl.gov (oppie-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.123]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id m1KITs9q018218; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:29:54 -0700 Received: from [128.165.86.60] (p25dual1.lanl.gov [128.165.86.60]) by oppie-mail.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66D41F8005; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:29:43 -0700 (MST) From: James Harrison To: darryl@osborne-ind.com In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Los Alamos National Labs Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:29:43 -0700 Message-Id: <1203532183.2479.22.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 (2.8.0-33.0.1.el5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: jamesh@lanl.gov X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jamesh@lanl.gov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:29:55 -0000 On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 12:02 -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote: > Greetings, > I am looking to install a CMS system (something like postnuke) and want to > have a blog component. > > Anybody have any recommendations ? If it is in the ports, it would be even > better. > > thanks, > Darryl I've been using git a fair bit; it's fast as all hell. It's what the linux kernel guys use, though I'm considering moving over to bazaar because it archives more metadata. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bazaar_(software) The BSDs traditionally use CVS, so at the very least you know that's good over long term for a lot of files. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 18:37:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8870416A410 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607F913C509 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F4265502 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:37:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:37:34 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <47BC61BA.60103@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <94136a2c0802200802r790ea5b1ye6f1a331b15ed6f4@mail.gmail.com> <47BC61BA.60103@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: security of a new installation / steps to take X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:37:35 -0000 --On Wednesday, February 20, 2008 17:22:02 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > >> So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware >> firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc. >> Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot >> more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of >> steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install >> applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some >> advice from you re the basic steps. > > The important mantra to remember when securing a machine that is exposed > to the internet is: > > What does not listen on the network cannot be used to compromise you. > > In practice, this means run sockstat and look for all the processes > that are listening for connections on your external network interfaces. > > If you don't need it, then don't run it. > What an outstanding answer. Matthew has covered all the correct bases. I can only add one further suggestion. Consider using /etc/hosts.allow to protect daemons that must listen on ports to restrict access even further. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 18:43:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB9916A409 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from mx2.itu.dk (unknown [130.226.142.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C1013C43E for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from wimac.littlebit.dk (unknown [85.233.238.191]) by mx2.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC718F48072; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:43:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BC74A6.6050602@cederstrand.dk> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:42:46 +0100 From: Erik Cederstrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jamesh@lanl.gov References: <1203532183.2479.22.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> In-Reply-To: <1203532183.2479.22.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:43:38 -0000 James Harrison wrote: > On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 12:02 -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote: >> Greetings, >> I am looking to install a CMS system (something like postnuke) and want to >> have a blog component. >> >> Anybody have any recommendations ? If it is in the ports, it would be even >> better. >> >> thanks, >> Darryl > > I've been using git a fair bit; it's fast as all hell. It's what the > linux kernel guys use, though I'm considering moving over to bazaar > because it archives more metadata. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bazaar_(software) > > The BSDs traditionally use CVS, so at the very least you know that's > good over long term for a lot of files. Uhh, CMS != CVS. The OP needs to give more information. What are the requirements? Is it just a blog and a couple of static pages, and very few users? Go with Wordpress. If you're building a community site or a company site with lots of pages, customers. editors etc? Drupal is great for that. $100.000 government site with customizations galore? Use Plone. All three are in the ports tree. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 18:49:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C98E16A405 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED53B13C45D for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) with SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 13:48:58 -0500 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20080219213254.GB47232@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4bded9640802191245q20832a83j31723763ab21a940@mail.gmail.com> <20080219213254.GB47232@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:48:53 -0500 Message-Id: <1203533333.10391.49.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jeff Gold , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:49:00 -0000 On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 16:32 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > I don't know about all you ask, but the 'c' partition should always > be there and be set to identify the whole slice eg start at 0 and > the size be the size of the slice. The system uses it to identify its a damn shame that this is still the case. defeats / undermines the whole purpose of /dev/[as][d##][s#][a-z] /dev/[as][d##][s#] alone can represent entire BIOS partitions /dev/[as][d##] alone can represent entire disk Not sure why we still need a 'c' slice for legacy ?! -- Brian A. Seklecki Collaborative Fusion, Inc. IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 19:05:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CC516A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb7:ef56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD02213C461 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:05:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (vpn180155.student.utwente.nl [130.89.180.155]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1KJ5Ont010506; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:05:26 +0100 Message-ID: <47BC79F4.2060303@student.utwente.nl> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:05:24 +0000 From: "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karthick Jayaraman References: <47BC612B.2070004@syr.edu> In-Reply-To: <47BC612B.2070004@syr.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting FreeBSD 5.2.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:05:34 -0000 Karthick Jayaraman wrote: > I would like to get the FreeBSD 5.2.1 iso image for PowerPC. Please let > me know where I can get them. Are you sure that 5.2.1 even exists for the PowerPC? The FTP-archive starts with 6.0 and according to the release announcement back then (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2.1R/announce.html): [begin quote] FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE supports the i386, pc98, alpha, sparc64, amd64, and ia64 architectures [end quote] It doesn't mention powerpc. Just a thought, I could be way off though. Alphons -- All right, that does it Bill [Donahue]. I'm pretty sure that killing Jesus is not very Christian. -- pope Benedict XVI, South Park episode #158 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 19:07:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C1016A404 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7774413C461 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E2F40548C; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:07:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BC7A3C.9070002@bsdforen.de> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:06:36 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <200802161142.53044.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <20080216215521.GB12555@osiris.chen.org.nz> <18359.26373.750798.755610@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18359.26373.750798.755610@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Steven Friedrich , Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: Shutdown anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:07:45 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > Jonathan Chen writes: > >> > I am seeing the following messages, which appear to indicate a memory >> > overwrite: >> > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'vnlru' to stop...done >> > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'bufdaemon' to stop...done >> > a >> > iStyinncgi n(gm adxi s6k0s ,s evcnoonddess) rfeomra isnyisntge.m. .pr0o >> > cess 'syncer' to stop...0 0 done >> > All buffers synced. >> > Uptime: 8m9s >> >> It's an interleaved buffer messages on SMP systems. The problem is >> known, but I haven't heard of a proposed solution yet. > > There is no fix. > The workaround is to increase the size of the kernel printf() > buffer. I don't remember how you do that ... but this is not a new > issue - chech the archives for details. I would like to propose a fix. Care to test it? Just apply this patch and add the following line to your /etc/rc.conf file. shutdown_clean_enable="YES" --- rc.shutdown 2008-02-20 19:28:45.000000000 +0100 +++ /etc/rc.shutdown 2008-02-20 19:59:03.000000000 +0100 @@ -43,10 +43,21 @@ PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin export HOME PATH +# The next three lines belong into /etc/defaults/rc.conf. +shutdown_clean_enable="NO" # Set to YES to stop all but the first CPU + # core to prevent mixed buffer output + # upon shutdown. + . /etc/rc.subr load_rc_config 'XXX' +# Fall back to single core mode to guarantee clean output. +if checkyesno shutdown_clean_enable; then + bitmask="$(jot -s '' -b1 $(expr $(sysctl -n hw.ncpu) - 1))0" + sysctl machdep.hlt_cpus=$bitmask +fi + # reverse_list list # print the list in reverse order # From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 19:09:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AC416A403 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:09:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from mail.digitalfreaks.org (arbitor.digitalfreaks.org [216.151.95.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF87813C469 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:09:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.digitalfreaks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A7F17C71 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.digitalfreaks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.digitalfreaks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 50076-09 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.161] (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.digitalfreaks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DD917C58 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:09:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:09:35 -0500 Message-Id: <1203534575.10391.60.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 Subject: _devname in src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/devices.c X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:09:39 -0000 All: Does anyone know the relationship between this structure (major, minor, delta, etc.) and real device IDs? Obviously devd(8) isn't running in the MFS install kernel, but I assume the magic still happens. Also, I don't see that major/minors indexed here actually matching a booted SMP kernel? $ ls /dev/mfi* crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 32 Dec 14 13:16 /dev/mfi0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 85 Dec 14 13:16 /dev/mfid0 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 87 Dec 14 13:16 /dev/mfid0s1 crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 95 Dec 14 13:16 /dev/mfid0s1a [...snip...] crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 101 Dec 14 13:16 /dev/mfid0s1g crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 86 Dec 14 13:16 /dev/mfid1 But devices.c lists the major as: { DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, "mfid%d", "LSI MegaRAID SAS", 254, 65538, 8, 4 }, I'm pretty sure neither 254 and/or 32/85 are match the major on the boot/install MFS kernel. They don't seem to be related, yet when i screw with struct{} _devname, I break device detection, so it is still used in some way. I'm fuzzy on how these M/M are used in FreeBSD -- I missed the whole auto-magic assignment period during the 5x days. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 19:14:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CC216A403 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:14:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1273613C4DB for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1KJAHOa056974; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:10:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1KJAHxC056973; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:10:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:10:17 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Brian A. Seklecki" Message-ID: <20080220191017.GA56942@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4bded9640802191245q20832a83j31723763ab21a940@mail.gmail.com> <20080219213254.GB47232@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1203533333.10391.49.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1203533333.10391.49.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , Jeff Gold , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:14:31 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 01:48:53PM -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 16:32 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > I don't know about all you ask, but the 'c' partition should always > > be there and be set to identify the whole slice eg start at 0 and > > the size be the size of the slice. The system uses it to identify > > its a damn shame that this is still the case. defeats / undermines the > whole purpose of /dev/[as][d##][s#][a-z] > > /dev/[as][d##][s#] alone can represent entire BIOS partitions > /dev/[as][d##] alone can represent entire disk > > Not sure why we still need a 'c' slice for legacy ?! Probably. I don't really know how it gets used, but the system still seems to expect it somewhere. ////jerry > -- > Brian A. Seklecki > Collaborative Fusion, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 19:21:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4353716A410 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA12B13C478 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 20 Feb 2008 14:21:23 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id OLE25139; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 20 Feb 2008 14:20:20 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18364.32215.660145.662502@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:21:59 -0500 To: Dominic Fandrey In-Reply-To: <47BC7A3C.9070002@bsdforen.de> References: <200802161142.53044.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <20080216215521.GB12555@osiris.chen.org.nz> <18359.26373.750798.755610@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47BC7A3C.9070002@bsdforen.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan Chen , Steven Friedrich Subject: Re: Shutdown anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:21:23 -0000 Dominic Fandrey writes: > >> It's an interleaved buffer messages on SMP systems. The problem is > >> known, but I haven't heard of a proposed solution yet. > > > > There is no fix. > > The workaround is to increase the size of the kernel printf() > > buffer. I don't remember how you do that ... but this is not a new > > issue - chech the archives for details. > > I would like to propose a fix. Care to test it? Me personally? No. Don't have an SMP machine available. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 19:28:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F20116A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFBC513C457 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) with SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 14:28:34 -0500 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20080220191017.GA56942@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4bded9640802191245q20832a83j31723763ab21a940@mail.gmail.com> <20080219213254.GB47232@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1203533333.10391.49.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <20080220191017.GA56942@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:28:34 -0500 Message-Id: <1203535714.10391.62.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jeff Gold , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:28:36 -0000 > > > > /dev/[as][d##][s#] alone can represent entire BIOS partitions > > /dev/[as][d##] alone can represent entire disk > > > > Not sure why we still need a 'c' slice for legacy ?! > > Probably. I don't really know how it gets used, but the system > still seems to expect it somewhere. That kind of uncertainly is likely why the other projects haven't adopted the new model, which is a shame, but pragmatically speaking... I'll be happy when they do, either way. > > ////jerry > > > -- > > Brian A. Seklecki > > Collaborative Fusion, Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Brian A. Seklecki Collaborative Fusion, Inc. IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 19:33:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C384416A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4DE13C4D3 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:33:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) with SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 14:33:18 -0500 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, 'Lowell Gilbert' In-Reply-To: <1201184242.3015.6.camel@new-host> References: <1201184242.3015.6.camel@new-host> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:33:18 -0500 Message-Id: <1203535998.10391.65.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: RELENG_6_3 build fail -- signal 13 consistently X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:33:20 -0000 On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 09:17 -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > This is 6.3/amd64 release as a guest inside a vmware server (free) host: > It happens randomly. First time I've seen it. amd64 and i386 under vmware 1.x "server" (Free Version). I guess I'll use physical hardware for build farms. ~BAS IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 19:42:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C10D16A402 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgordeev@dir.bg) Received: from dir.bg (mail.dir.bg [194.145.63.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB30213C45A for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgordeev@dir.bg) Received: from [78.90.113.14] (account jgordeev@dir.bg [78.90.113.14] verified) by srv.dir.bg (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.14) with ESMTPSA id 20491393; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:11:56 +0200 Message-ID: <47BC7B71.2060500@dir.bg> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:11:45 +0200 From: Jordan Gordeev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20070606 X-Accept-Language: bg, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Deian Popov References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS /etc/namedb owner hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:42:00 -0000 Deian Popov wrote: > Hello, > > I have the following problem with bind: > > it is configured to run as bind:bind and after every reboot of the system > all files and directories under /etc/namedb become owned by root:wheel so > bind is unable is unable to update it's zone files after dhcpd leases IP to > any given client. How to fix either owner, or set somewhere that the owner > of this folder, subfolder and files is my DNS server? See /etc/rc.d/named and /etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist. And please, next time don't be so quick on mailing freebsd-questions@. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 19:54:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D7E16A404 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB19813C469 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) with SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 14:54:01 -0500 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1203535998.10391.65.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> References: <1201184242.3015.6.camel@new-host> <1203535998.10391.65.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:54:01 -0500 Message-Id: <1203537241.10391.70.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'Lowell Gilbert' , Bill Moran Subject: Re: RELENG_6_3 build fail -- signal 13 consistently X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:54:03 -0000 On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 14:33 -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 09:17 -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: > > This is 6.3/amd64 release as a guest inside a vmware server (free) > host: > > > > It happens randomly. First time I've seen it. amd64 and i386 under > vmware 1.x "server" (Free Version). > > I guess I'll use physical hardware for build farms. > This could have been two things: 1) The VM was originally "FreeBSD 32bit" -- so it emulated lnc(4), it was then switched to "FreBSD64" -- em(4), then back to 32 -- who knows -- it's commercial software. 2) The VM had a non exponent/power of 2 sized RAM allocation (it was set to 216mb -- probably a GUI blooper) -- although this generally hasn't been a problem for 10 years since video cards started arbitrarily stealing physical DRAM for their frame-buffer. lnc(4) problem originates from this error: kernel: lnc0: Missed packet -- no receive buffer ~BAS IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 19:55:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991DA16A468 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:55:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D350613C4F3 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.126]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89F539822 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:55:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BC8595.9000407@locolomo.org> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:55:01 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <47B60620.4040307@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <47B60620.4040307@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Solved: Problem building loader in RELENG_7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:55:04 -0000 Erik Norgaard wrote: > Just updated my source tree, I'm on FreeBSD bifrost 7.0-PRERELEASE > FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #1: Tue Feb 12 09:52:32 CET 2008. Then I did > > # cd /usr/src > # make -DLOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES I have just updated my source tree and the loader builds nicely again. Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 20:25:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E15016A407 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu (math051.cs.arizona.edu [150.135.82.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642F213C4EF for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JRvVs-0005rP-QV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:25:57 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JRvVI-0005qv-Fl; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:25:20 -0700 Message-ID: <47BC8CAE.8010200@math.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:25:18 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Kelly References: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> <20080220153554.GA23312@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> In-Reply-To: <20080220153554.GA23312@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:25:58 -0000 David Kelly wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:02:25AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > >> Nutshell, I'd like anyone's ideas/experiences with some of these >> new HP/<<< or whateverbrand>>> printers. I wouldn't *mind* if I >> could scan in text from a techy paper into HTML or PDF or text. >> But mostly, like 99.44% plain black text. My old deskjet used >> gs as a filter to print PostScript. Do we have any such plugin >> support, or are printers still roll-your-own? [FWIW, I can't >> seem to get CUPS working... altho it maay be my misssing >> /dev/lpt0.] >> > > Why don't you check http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting for the most comprehensive information available. Just couple a comments. I would keep native LPD spooling system instead installing CUPS unless you need to use something like HPLIP drivers. To stay on the same note, you should ask yourself firstly what is printer for. If you are doing intensive black and white document printing like in an academic environment Laser Printers will give you the greatest millage and cost per copy ratio. In that case you should definitely try to buy a printer that speaks Post Script language and avoid any drivers. The mentioned Brother HL series is wonderful. I have just good words for Lexmark Optra series. HP Laser jet above the 1300 do speak full Post Script. Always a good decision. Be careful with HP 1000-1200 they might be problematic as they do not even speak PCL. See above link for the full explanation. If you are using printing at home and need occasional color printing I would suggest you go with the HP deskjet/officejest or even better with all-in-one device. HPLIP http://hplip.sourceforge.net/ will unlock full functionality of all-in-one devices including scanning via hpaio scanner drivers included in HPLIP. There are couple Epson all-in-one devices that are fully supported with Gutenprint for the printer driver and sane-backhands for the printing. Something like CX-3800 or similar. Check the SANE web-site for full list. Note that SANE has released new backhands two weeks ago and I am not sure if the FreeBSD port has been updated to 1.19 version. If you decide that you do NOT need scanner stick with the printer that speak full PCL and which are listed in the foomatic-db or/and ghostscript. Personally, I have HP laser jet 4L. Speaks PCL and listed in foomatic-db. I have Office Jet R60 all-in-one speaks PCL and listed in foomatic -db. In order to unlock scanning it has to be attached separately to network as HPLIP doesn't support parallel port devices despite their claims that they do. It does but over the network. Photosmart C5250 all-in-one. This is my wife printer for her photos but is also a scanner and copier. Full functionality unlocked with HPLIP drivers. I hope that this helps Predrag P. S. You may also check the following couple articles. How to edit printcap file and use foomatic filter http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/07/08/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 How to use apsfilter http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/11/06/Big_Scary_Daemons.html How to use ghostscript as a input filter and lots of other goodies by our own Ted http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/index.html How to set up HPLIP on FreeBSD http://dsteinbrook.googlepages.com/hpliponfreebsd Note that the Handbook is more than enough to set up Post Script printer. You may also want to read man pages for printcap. Nice info. If you > I have been pleased with my purchase of a Brother HL-5250DN several years > ago. Was $250 at the time, usually can be found on sale now for under > $200. Refurbished HL-5240's under $100. > > This is a 30 ppm (rated) laser with ethernet, USB, HPL-6 and Brother's > Postscript-3 clone. Also prints duplex. 3rd party toner refills are $20 > for roughly 7,000 pages. Drum is rated at 25,000 pages. If it doesn't > last that long a new or refurbished printer is cheaper than a > replacement drum. > > Have fond memories of old HP-4000N, HP-4050N, and HP-5000N printers but > nothing used was available as inexpensive as the Brother was. The > Brother is better suited for my uses as its very quick to warm up from > sleep, maybe as fast as my DJ-990. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 20:33:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DB616A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A588913C45A for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j2so1243359tid.3 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:32:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=UzvsBb0C/c3I+4A6uoDEqjPLxX04URKdUe/I1/iqXw4=; b=YWZ0wS1GC25/2OtwmyZJeppRu/XMNb8RUFdcOXLPClJ0TyVSWnhP5gZj1k2/yHFyjSYkok1K0Jvg/StYlkxCvKhiYNy7xykFratRLRh2OyP8NpbuRAkadR7SQUeSxBGMqSqkLptoJV6271a3yY9GswuvF9njTk7cvhaNG1bkZvU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JJTYVvVBujipL5VIEfj2DbpPBnXcTMFA/jpeb2C29qMdBo/W/NIi9uXbPHXYNJcZzht5oCg+jiPt1bM5kY0aGn7VmZEEGXRKyIecw14I6HsWV1sSQ+Hv9y/q0rRip+lBZihknpow1EEGF7HgmD3xrsOoXZbvaJuWnTg21O+PQ7U= Received: by 10.110.28.2 with SMTP id b2mr6151150tib.39.1203539578219; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:32:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.85.17 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:32:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <14989d6e0802201232s3bb18fe9h2795570f5e8d6195@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:32:58 +0000 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Jordan Gordeev" In-Reply-To: <47BC7B71.2060500@dir.bg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47BC7B71.2060500@dir.bg> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS /etc/namedb owner hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:33:01 -0000 Hi there, On 20/02/2008, Jordan Gordeev wrote: [...] > See /etc/rc.d/named and /etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist. > And please, next time don't be so quick on mailing freebsd-questions@. IMO questions is exactly dedicated for this purpose. Of course the OP could've solved the problem on his own, but maybe he just came across FreeBSD recently and does not now all of FreeBSDs specialties. Maybe the OP isn't used to reading shell scripts (not everyone dealing with Unix system is capable of reading or even writing scripts). I think discouraging a user of asking questions he/she is unable to solve on his/her own is not that usefull. Just my $0.02 Christian PS: I had to deal with this "problem" and it took me longer than expected. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 20:33:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C06016A403 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail46.e.nsc.no (mail46.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17E513C478 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [62.16.243.102] (062016243102.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.243.102]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail46.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m1KKXAip003517; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:33:11 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <47BC8E53.1010508@netscape.net> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:32:19 +0100 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Friedrich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200802161142.53044.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> In-Reply-To: <200802161142.53044.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Shutdown anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:33:14 -0000 Steven Friedrich wrote: > I am seeing the following messages, which appear to indicate a memory > overwrite: > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'vnlru' to stop...done > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'bufdaemon' to stop...done > a > iStyinncgi n(gm adxi s6k0s ,s evcnoonddess) rfeomra isnyisntge.m. .pr0o > cess 'syncer' to stop...0 0 done > All buffers synced. > Uptime: 8m9s I don't know if this is relevant. Anyway, I used to see this error on 7.0-RC1, at any rate when using xdm. I no longer see it on 7.0-RC2. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 20:34:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2F316A406 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:34:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [202.89.146.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D6613C45E for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:34:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 28A0E28494; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:34:51 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:34:51 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Dominic Fandrey Message-ID: <20080220203451.GA99077@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <200802161142.53044.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <20080216215521.GB12555@osiris.chen.org.nz> <18359.26373.750798.755610@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47BC7A3C.9070002@bsdforen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47BC7A3C.9070002@bsdforen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org, Steven Friedrich Subject: Re: Shutdown anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:34:52 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:06:36PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > Robert Huff wrote: > >Jonathan Chen writes: > > > >> > I am seeing the following messages, which appear to indicate a memory > >> > overwrite: > >> > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'vnlru' to stop...done > >> > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'bufdaemon' to stop...done > >> > a > >> > iStyinncgi n(gm adxi s6k0s ,s evcnoonddess) rfeomra isnyisntge.m. > >> .pr0o > cess 'syncer' to stop...0 0 done > >> > All buffers synced. > >> > Uptime: 8m9s > >> > >> It's an interleaved buffer messages on SMP systems. The problem is > >> known, but I haven't heard of a proposed solution yet. > > > > There is no fix. > > The workaround is to increase the size of the kernel printf() > >buffer. I don't remember how you do that ... but this is not a new > >issue - chech the archives for details. > > I would like to propose a fix. Care to test it? > > Just apply this patch and add the following line to your /etc/rc.conf file. > shutdown_clean_enable="YES" I'm not too keen on the fix, as it only pushes the problem under the carpet just for the sake of nice output on shutdown. There's still tons of mangled output in the logs (esp. if you run a logging firewall). Here's hoping for a kernel-fix sometime in the future. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Beer. Now there's a temporary solution." - Homer Simpson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 20:37:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E820E16A404 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent.jones@otago.ac.nz) Received: from mailhub2.otago.ac.nz (mailhub2.otago.ac.nz [139.80.64.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632AC13C47E for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent.jones@otago.ac.nz) Received: from its-ex-p04.registry.otago.ac.nz (its-ex-p04.registry.otago.ac.nz [10.4.15.133]) by mailhub2.otago.ac.nz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1KKbULe007694; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:37:30 +1300 Received: from its-ex-p05.registry.otago.ac.nz ([10.4.15.134]) by its-ex-p04.registry.otago.ac.nz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:37:30 +1300 Received: from MAIL1.registry.otago.ac.nz ([10.4.15.129]) by its-ex-p05.registry.otago.ac.nz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:37:30 +1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:37:29 +1300 Message-ID: <31AE442CCBC1094ABC40CE85B0149F06523840@MAIL1.registry.otago.ac.nz> In-Reply-To: <47BC8E53.1010508@netscape.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Shutdown anomaly Thread-Index: Achz//fENOWh78oxT0K0OuXdi6qqLQAAB3Qg References: <200802161142.53044.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <47BC8E53.1010508@netscape.net> From: "Brent Jones" To: "Tore Lund" , "Steven Friedrich" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Feb 2008 20:37:30.0517 (UTC) FILETIME=[69E00450:01C87400] X-PMX-Version: 5.4.0.320885, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2008.2.20.122359 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='BODY_SIZE_700_799 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __IMS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Cc: Subject: RE: Shutdown anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:37:34 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Tore Lund > Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2008 9:32 a.m. > To: Steven Friedrich; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Shutdown anomaly >=20 > Steven Friedrich wrote: > > iStyinncgi n(gm adxi s6k0s ,s evcnoonddess) rfeomra=20 > isnyisntge.m. .pr0o=20 > > cess 'syncer' to stop...0 0 done > > All buffers synced. > > Uptime: 8m9s >=20 > I don't know if this is relevant. Anyway, I used to see this error on > 7.0-RC1, at any rate when using xdm. I no longer see it on 7.0-RC2. I see it on my RC2 machine. It comes and goes on my machine, and isn't always present on shutdown. Not running xdm, just a plain vanilla box with no X. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 20:47:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74ACD16A400 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omer@faruk.net) Received: from ns1.ballihost.com (ns1.ballihost.com [69.57.158.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DDCB13C458 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omer@faruk.net) Received: (qmail 52394 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2008 20:34:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO TRISTN0TR0573.ad5.ad.alcatel.com) (127.0.0.1) by bsd.ev1servers.net with SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 20:34:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:47:06 +0200 From: Omer Faruk SEN X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.25) Professional Organization: FARUK.NET X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1751319124.20080220224706@faruk.net> To: Omer Faruk SEN In-Reply-To: <1886503997.20080219200753@faruk.net> References: <1886503997.20080219200753@faruk.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: esx 3.0.2 update1 BTX Halted issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:47:53 -0000 Hello It was my bad not to enable the VT feature of the CPU so esx wasn't support= ing the 64 bit systems. This error is taken just because of that. Fixed th= e issue and now I can happily install fbsd amd64 to esx3.0.2 update1=20 Tuesday, February 19, 2008, 8:07:53 PM, you wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to install amd64 version of the freebsd 6.2 (also 6.3 gives t= he same error). > After options presented in the loader whatever I choose ( safe > mode, wo acpi...) it directly goes to BTX Halted mode. > Has anyone in this list installed fbsd 6.2 or 6.3 to esx 3.0.2 > update 1 ?(I have also tried esx 3.0.2 without update 1 and has > taken the same error message). If yes have you done anything special for = this system ? > BTW: This system is upgraded from first 2.5.4=20 > Regards. > --=20 > Omer Faruk Sen > http://www.faruk.net --=20 Best regards, Omer mailto:omer@faruk.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 21:50:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5781116A401 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Edgar_Soto@ryder.com) Received: from atlsmtp01.ryder.com (atlsmtp01.ryder.com [168.218.5.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224D413C478 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Edgar_Soto@ryder.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,382,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="77068812" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0.2 September 26, 2006 Message-ID: From: Edgar_Soto@ryder.com Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:13:40 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on LNHUB03/SERVER/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US(Release 6.5.5FP3|March 22, 2007) at 02/20/2008 04:21:52 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Cambio de DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:50:27 -0000 Como puedo cambiar o dar de alta DNS en FreeBSD Saludos Edgar ****************************************************************************** The information contained in this electronic communication and any accompanying document is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. 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El DNS que usas como usuario se utiliza en el file de /etc/resolv.conf Aqui pondrias los DNS servers que utilizaz para hacer tus queries o si =20 estas implementando tu propio server tienes que usar los files dentro =20 /var/named/etc/named Que es lo que quieres hacer? David Alanis Quoting Edgar_Soto@ryder.com: > > Como puedo cambiar o dar de alta DNS en FreeBSD > > Saludos > > Edgar > > **************************************************************************= **** > > The information contained in this electronic communication and any > accompanying document is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, > and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of > Ryder System, Inc. Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this > communication, or any part of it, is strictly prohibited and may be > unlawful. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 22:02:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE3C16A402 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E07A13C45E for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 25so797417wfa.7 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.222.21 with SMTP id u21mr6942765wfg.231.1203544954537; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 43sm16136214wri.3.2008.02.20.14.02.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:02:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:02:23 -0500 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080220170223.55316dcf@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <001c01c873a9$7b82dc20$2601a8c0@junior> References: <001c01c873a9$7b82dc20$2601a8c0@junior> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q User-Agent: Claws Mail 3.3.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/GE1MPRyA24YQriQ22mAe7UA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: FTPD and IExplore X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:02:35 -0000 --Sig_/GE1MPRyA24YQriQ22mAe7UA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:15:13 +0200 "klerfe [Bodegas]" wrote: > Hi. My problem is i cannot connect to my ftp server (started from > inetd) via IExplore or any other web browser. I've added user ftp to > enable anonymous logins on my ftp server and it works when connecting > via ftp client such as Total Commander. But it doesn't work via any > web browser. My OS is FreeBSD 6.2. I had 5.4 before, and i didn't had > this problem on previous machine. The problem appeared when i freshly > reinstalled the operating system. Any suggestions? I run pure-ftpd for my FTP server, and it has no problems with IE or Firefox. Then again, it is not started from 'inetd' so that might have something to to with it. Since you stated that no web browser can make a connection, that kind of rules out IE as the culprit. Do you receive any type of error message? What does it say? I just tried accessing ftp.stereo.lt, I hope that is your FTP site, and it asked for log-in credentials. --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net PARTY: A gathering where you meet people who drink so much you can't even remember their names. --Sig_/GE1MPRyA24YQriQ22mAe7UA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAke8o28ACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMkoNACeN9orYJ9845Fck3DiI5oUN+Z1 e9EAoJNcDsCukq3ZIv7jC3whtQr5Aoh7 =ZeuI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/GE1MPRyA24YQriQ22mAe7UA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 22:36:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1714116A407 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B0913C461 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D6A1CC8B; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:36:43 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:36:42 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <51345.216.254.116.226.1203391042.squirrel@mail.edpausa.com> In-Reply-To: <51345.216.254.116.226.1203391042.squirrel@mail.edpausa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802202336.42543.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: lenny@edpausa.com Subject: Re: libc5 on freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:36:45 -0000 On Tuesday 19 February 2008 04:17:22 lenny@edpausa.com wrote: > /usr/local/cyrus/bin/timsieved: > libdb-4.2.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libdb-4.2.so.2 (0x881fb000) > libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x8851c000) There's your problem. Rebuild databases/db42. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 23:15:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCA916A474 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5404713C4E9 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703671CC8B; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:15:48 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:15:46 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47B94EAE.3050002@boldra.com> In-Reply-To: <47B94EAE.3050002@boldra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802210015.47114.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Boldra Subject: Re: network not performing - where to start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:15:53 -0000 On Monday 18 February 2008 10:23:58 Boldra wrote: > ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.1.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > ether 00:a0:0c:40:32:a3 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active It takes two to tango: is the other nic running 100Mbit? > So my questions are: > How do I check the network performance from within freebsd? Excellent tool: http://www.freshports.org/net/bmon/ -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 23:20:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E4516A40B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B01D13C4D3 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4914E1CC8B; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:20:57 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:20:55 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47B8FC29.6000309@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <47B8FC29.6000309@optonline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802210020.56050.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "E. J. Cerejo" Subject: Re: The configuration could not be loaded --- Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:20:58 -0000 On Monday 18 February 2008 04:31:53 E. J. Cerejo wrote: > (users-admin:51143): Liboobs-WARNING **: Failed to connect to socket > /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory echo 'dbus_enable="YES"' >>/etc/rc.conf && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus start -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 23:45:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEDE16A406 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9C613C455 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582AE1CC8B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:45:47 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:45:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802210045.45991.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: KQueue and EVFILT_TIMER question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:45:48 -0000 Hi, I'm using a kqueue(2) that installs a timer into the queue when a certain condition has happened. This timer waits for another condition at intervals (specifically, it watches for a file to be created). Every 500ms it does a stat(2) for a given filename and when stat succeeds, I do the following: changes[0].flags |= EV_ONESHOT; changes[0].udata = (void*)1; changes[0].flags |= EV_ADD; Problem is, that this timer now never disappears, even if I replace changes[0] with a completely different event (specifically, EVFILT_VNODE on the file we now know is created). I suspect that: "This filter automatically sets the EV_CLEAR flag internally." is the culprit. So how would I go about terminating the timer? Or is the only way to initialize it as EV_ONESHOT and keep reinstalling a new one when required? Or close the kq all together and start a new one? EV_DELETE? On a related note, is the ident for a timer really used and should I increment it (all examples I've seen simply set ident to 1). -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 20 23:50:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054F016A401 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-28.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-28.bluehost.com [69.89.17.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEA5213C45B for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 24313 invoked by uid 0); 20 Feb 2008 23:50:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2008 23:50:20 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRyhf-0006VA-PM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:50:19 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:50:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:50:19 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080220235019.GF97072@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <1203468277.6470.114.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1203468277.6470.114.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:50:21 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:44:37AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 08:49 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > The way you phrased it makes it sound like FreeBSD is simply unsuited to > > use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this > > from a Thinkpad laptop with FreeBSD on it, and it's by far the best > > "desktop" OS I've ever had the pleasure to use. > > Me too. But you have to be more enabled to get a lot of the software the > is wanted on a desktop system working. Case in point: Gnome is not > automatically installed (or kde or any other wm). Web browsing can be > tricky because you have to get wrappers for plugins and so on. For you > and me- we don't mind because we know the result will be fantastic, but > others who just want to get on with it it can be a pain. More enabled . . . ? You have to be "more enabled" to use *anything* that isn't preinstalled by the hardware vendor. That basically means anything that isn't MS Windows or MacOS X. After all, Linux, FreeBSD, Plan 9 . . . none of them are "automatically installed" on any computer, with rare exceptions. > > Therefore, I'd say a desktop version of FreeBSD would be better > described as a workstation. Considering we're comparing to Ubuntu, I'd > say thats a fair statement. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] McCloctnick the Lucid: "The first rule of magic is simple. Don't waste your time waving your hands and hopping when a rock or a club will do." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 00:27:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DEE16A407 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D87113C4CE for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JRzH9-00034Q-Fy; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:26:59 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m1L0Qw0I001611; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:26:58 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1A287FCA4B3; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:26:53 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:26:53 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: David Naylor Message-ID: <20080221002653.GA93965@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:26:59 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:27:05 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 01:06:30PM +0200, David Naylor wrote: > > Hi, > > I am currently replacing my defunct motherboard, I am unable to test > the hardware before purchase and I am seeking advice on which > motherboard to get. > > Upon review I have selected a Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4, does FreeBSD > work with this board. It does have a nForce 650i (and I am not sure > FreeBSD works with it?) I just built a workstation with a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L (P35/ICH9) board and am running a core 2 duo on it with AMD 7.0RC1. Everything works including ACPI which is very important if you want to run more than 1 core. > > If anyone has an alternative suggestion please let me know. The > motherboard will have to support (my budget is about < ZAR2000 ~ > USD275): > o) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Mine supports that with up to 1333MHz FSB. > o) 4x 800Mhz DDR2 Ram Yep. I've got 4GB, don't know whether it will go to 8, the handbook is no help. > o) 2x SATA HDD Yep. 4 Channels. > o) 2x IDE CDROM Drive Yes. Only 1 IDE channel but supports 2 devices > o) 2x nVidia 7600 GT I guess that's SLI which I don't know a lot about or whether FreeBSD (X) can make any use of it. Only 1 PCI-E x 16 on my board so I guess not for me. > > Thank you all for your help I don't know anything about your nForce650i chipset but as a rule of thumb, if the technology is more than 6 months old, it's likely to work unless there's non-disclosure by the manufacturer (I think Nvidia are quite good in that respect). May be somebody else can comment on whether it will work. Or if you can drop one of the video cards you can use the same motherboard as me since I've tested it (apart from sound). And it's probably cheaper! About 65 quid (130 USD). -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 00:34:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B12B16A407 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1454913C467 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1L0WP4j055777 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:32:28 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080220235019.GF97072@demeter.hydra> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <1203468277.6470.114.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080220235019.GF97072@demeter.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:32:20 +1000 Message-Id: <1203553940.3455.6.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.439, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.36, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:34:15 -0000 On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 16:50 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:44:37AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 08:49 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > > > The way you phrased it makes it sound like FreeBSD is simply unsuited to > > > use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this > > > from a Thinkpad laptop with FreeBSD on it, and it's by far the best > > > "desktop" OS I've ever had the pleasure to use. > > > > Me too. But you have to be more enabled to get a lot of the software the > > is wanted on a desktop system working. Case in point: Gnome is not > > automatically installed (or kde or any other wm). Web browsing can be > > tricky because you have to get wrappers for plugins and so on. For you > > and me- we don't mind because we know the result will be fantastic, but > > others who just want to get on with it it can be a pain. > > More enabled . . . ? > > You have to be "more enabled" to use *anything* that isn't preinstalled > by the hardware vendor. That basically means anything that isn't MS > Windows or MacOS X. After all, Linux, FreeBSD, Plan 9 . . . none of them > are "automatically installed" on any computer, with rare exceptions. > > Considering the original question of the OP wouldn't you agree that this might be their background? > > > > Therefore, I'd say a desktop version of FreeBSD would be better > > described as a workstation. Considering we're comparing to Ubuntu, I'd > > say thats a fair statement. > > I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 00:37:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E1716A406 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2DA13C4D5 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.2] (adsl-157-33-205.bna.bellsouth.net[70.157.33.205]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with ESMTP id <20080221003708H0200ao3pce>; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:37:09 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [70.157.33.205] Message-ID: <47BCC7B6.4050108@datapipe.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:37:10 -0600 From: "Paul A. Procacci" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Shute References: <20080221002653.GA93965@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20080221002653.GA93965@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: David Naylor , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:37:10 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 01:06:30PM +0200, David Naylor wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am currently replacing my defunct motherboard, I am unable to test >> the hardware before purchase and I am seeking advice on which >> motherboard to get. >> >> Upon review I have selected a Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4, does FreeBSD >> work with this board. It does have a nForce 650i (and I am not sure >> FreeBSD works with it?) >> > > I just built a workstation with a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L (P35/ICH9) > board and am running a core 2 duo on it with AMD 7.0RC1. Everything works > including ACPI which is very important if you want to run more than 1 > core. > > >> If anyone has an alternative suggestion please let me know. The >> motherboard will have to support (my budget is about < ZAR2000 ~ >> USD275): >> > > >> o) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 >> > > Mine supports that with up to 1333MHz FSB. > > >> o) 4x 800Mhz DDR2 Ram >> > > Yep. I've got 4GB, don't know whether it will go to 8, the handbook is no > help. > > >> o) 2x SATA HDD >> > > Yep. 4 Channels. > > >> o) 2x IDE CDROM Drive >> > > Yes. Only 1 IDE channel but supports 2 devices > > >> o) 2x nVidia 7600 GT >> > > I guess that's SLI which I don't know a lot about or whether FreeBSD > (X) can make any use of it. Only 1 PCI-E x 16 on my board so I guess > not for me. > > >> Thank you all for your help >> > > I don't know anything about your nForce650i chipset but as a rule of > thumb, if the technology is more than 6 months old, it's likely to > work unless there's non-disclosure by the manufacturer (I think Nvidia > are quite good in that respect). > > May be somebody else can comment on whether it will work. Or if you > can drop one of the video cards you can use the same motherboard as > me since I've tested it (apart from sound). And it's probably cheaper! > About 65 quid (130 USD). > > Just to add additional information for the OP. I too have a Gigabyte P35-DS3R (slight difference in model, but nearly the same) rev. 2.1 board, and it works like a champ. My specs (whether relavant or not to you): o) Core 2 Q6600 Quad Core OC'd to 1333 FSB. o) 4x 1066Mhz DDR2 Ram o) IDE channel(s) not in use. o) 4 SATA drives in raid 0+1 in use, 1 SATA CDROM drive in use o) Floppy Controller / Drive in use. o) nVidia 8800 GTX obviously in use. Like Frank mentioned, my video card doesn't run in Sli mode, however I've had nothing but luck thus far. I hope this little bit helps. Maybe next time if otherwise. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 00:42:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B2016A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E9B13C45B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1L0dhud064751 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:39:44 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:39:33 +1000 Message-Id: <1203554373.3455.15.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.435, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.36, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Is there any print enabled graphic design software? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:42:43 -0000 I'm trying to get away from Adobe products (which are becoming rather agressive towards OSS), but I need to find a graphic software that can handle CMYK properly. I've tried GIMP (which has great tools) but it doesn't handle CMYK files- it only uses sRGB. I've tried Krita, but it doesn't work as well as GIMP tool wise, and I can't specify images sizes very well at all- it only works on pixel size, not inches or dpi/ppi. Therefore both are great for designing screen images, but not printed images. I even tried using GIMP to design (using CMYK colours here), and reformatting to a CMYK file with Krita. Problem with this is that the image size doesn't work once reformatted, plus I need to export to pdf which neither do and so printing to pdf means the final image size is an A4 and god knows what dpi. Anything better out there? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 00:46:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213E016A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-103.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-103.bluehost.com [69.89.22.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D680F13C458 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 26513 invoked by uid 0); 21 Feb 2008 00:46:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundmail3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 00:46:57 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JRzaT-0000ZE-Ap for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:46:57 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:46:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:46:56 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080221004656.GG97072@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219161404.GB91805@demeter.hydra> <20080219163634.GA46198@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080219202749.GE92559@demeter.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080219202749.GE92559@demeter.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:46:58 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > [ snip a bunch of stuff ] > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:36:34AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > A good rundown of some of the differences. > > Maybe you can put this on a web page and get it added to lists > > of comparrisons. > > Sure. I'll polish it up and post it somewhere in that polished form, > then reply here. If not today, I'll aim to get it done tomorrow. Okay, posted: http://arc.apotheon.org/freebsd/vs_linux.html If anyone has suggestions for how to fix it up further, let me know. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Paul Graham: "Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to build programs out of the wrong concepts." 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If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: https://my.binhost.com/lists/confirm/aacc-ccgen-div/8b424798d41f8f0879d9cc1ceb47c42ddc83b416 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 01:45:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3FB16A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a-bb@gmx.net) Received: from pd2mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678F113C447 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:45:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a-bb@gmx.net) Received: from pd2mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr6so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.9]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JWK006NZCQX6740@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:44:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml3so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.147]) by pd2mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JWK00IBLCQXA170@pd2mr6so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:44:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([24.68.224.245]) by l-daemon (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JWK00K4KCQW5V20@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:44:57 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:45:58 -0800 From: Andrew Bradford To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <47BCC9C6.9050501@gmx.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) Subject: Mounting FS read-only for specific user (or root) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:45:51 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to set up a mounted filesystem that is read-write for root, but read-only for anyone else. It will be mounted as a backup directory, so files listed in that directory will be owned by current users on the system but can't be writeable, regardless of the file permissions. Example hd2 mounted rw in /root/backup-rw hd2 mounted ro in /backups Only root should be able to write to anything under /root/backup-rw/ even though normal users will own files in that directory. Normal users should be able to read anything that permissions allow in /backups so that they can restore files from the backup. I was planning on using the nullfs fs type to achieve the second mountpoint for the fs. Is this possible? Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 01:48:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AF216A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net) Received: from Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net (Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net [64.251.15.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C9513C4CE for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net) Received: from cpe-24-243-189-26.hot.res.rr.com ([24.243.189.26] helo=MrSmith.RawFedDogs.net) by Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JS0Bq-000F50-7c for Questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:25:38 -0600 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:28:52 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Monceaux X-X-Sender: dokpm0@MrSmith.RawFedDogs.net To: Questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (LNX 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1463811491-1395612127-1203557339=:9101" Sender: dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net Cc: Subject: Unicode Console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:48:53 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---1463811491-1395612127-1203557339=:9101 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Fellow FreeBSD Fans, I've been running FreeBSD on a web/mail server, which I only have remote=20 access to, for a while now. At home I've been running Linux since the=20 1.xx kernel days but am considering switching my desktop box to FreeBSD. I never given much thought to my locale setting until recently. I'm about= =20 to start participating in an online Spanish study group, via e-mail, and=20 might also be following along with an Old English study group. I'm an old= =20 fashioned kinda user and prefer to do as much as I can via the text=20 console. I compose/read e-mail via Alpine. After some trial and error I= =20 finally convinced my Linux box, currently running Arch Linux, to handle=20 all of the "special" characters I need via the console. In the end, it=20 amounted to: 1. Add "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" to /etc/locale.gen 2. run locale-gen 3. set LANG to en_US.UTF-8 4. Switch to a font that contains the symbols I need. I'm currently using one of the Terminus console fonts. For some reason I had to switch to a framebuffer console otherwise after executing unicode_start the font was way too dim. 5. run unicode_start(added to my .cshrc file) After the above I'm able to display various accented characters such as =E1= ,=20 =E9, =EC, =F6, =FB, =E7, etc. along with the Spanish =F1, inverted punctuat= ion marks =A1,=20 =BF, Old English thorn(=FE), eth(=F0), ash(=E6), etc. Also, from reading m= ail=20 from various mailing lists I've noticed that it also handles the Cyrillic= =20 alphabet and part of the Greek alphabet. From=20what I've seen of FreeBSD I'd expect it to have console capabilities= =20 that are superior to those of Linux. But, I haven't managed to figure out= =20 how to achieve similar functionality via the FreeBSD text consoles. I'm=20 currently testing FreeBSD(7.0-RC2) under VMware. Can anyone point me in=20 the right direction? Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!! ---1463811491-1395612127-1203557339=:9101-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 01:54:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C6916A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (darklight.org.ru [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:aa::dead:c0de]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF4813C442 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (yuri@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1L1s1g8069628; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:54:01 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m1L1s1AY069627; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:54:01 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.org.ru: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:54:00 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov To: Kevin Monceaux Message-ID: <20080221015400.GA69621@darklight.org.ru> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unicode Console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:54:03 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 07:28:52PM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > Fellow FreeBSD Fans, > > I've been running FreeBSD on a web/mail server, which I only have remote > access to, for a while now. At home I've been running Linux since the 1.xx > kernel days but am considering switching my desktop box to FreeBSD. > > I never given much thought to my locale setting until recently. I'm about > to start participating in an online Spanish study group, via e-mail, and > might also be following along with an Old English study group. I'm an old > fashioned kinda user and prefer to do as much as I can via the text > console. I compose/read e-mail via Alpine. After some trial and error I > finally convinced my Linux box, currently running Arch Linux, to handle all > of the "special" characters I need via the console. In the end, it > amounted to: > > 1. Add "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" to /etc/locale.gen > > 2. run locale-gen > > 3. set LANG to en_US.UTF-8 > > 4. Switch to a font that contains the symbols I need. I'm currently > using one of the Terminus console fonts. For some reason I had to > switch to a framebuffer console otherwise after executing > unicode_start the font was way too dim. > > 5. run unicode_start(added to my .cshrc file) > > After the above I'm able to display various accented characters such as á, > é, ì, ö, û, ç, etc. along with the Spanish ñ, inverted punctuation > marks ¡, ¿, Old English thorn(þ), eth(ð), ash(æ), etc. Also, from > reading mail from various mailing lists I've noticed that it also handles > the Cyrillic alphabet and part of the Greek alphabet. > > From what I've seen of FreeBSD I'd expect it to have console capabilities > that are superior to those of Linux. But, I haven't managed to figure out > how to achieve similar functionality via the FreeBSD text consoles. I'm > currently testing FreeBSD(7.0-RC2) under VMware. Can anyone point me in > the right direction? > > > > > Kevin > http://www.RawFedDogs.net > http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org > Bruceville, TX > > Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. > Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!! Unicode isn't supported in syscons at all (AFAIK). Check http://opal.com/jr/freebsd/unicode/ for more complete overview. HTH, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 01:56:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E76416A403 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333F613C465 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (c-71-60-127-199.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.127.199]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B62EBC3B; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:56:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:56:13 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Da Rock Message-Id: <20080220205613.b5b48f86.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <1203554373.3455.15.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <1203554373.3455.15.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there any print enabled graphic design software? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:56:15 -0000 Da Rock wrote: > > I'm trying to get away from Adobe products (which are becoming rather > agressive towards OSS), but I need to find a graphic software that can > handle CMYK properly. > > I've tried GIMP (which has great tools) but it doesn't handle CMYK > files- it only uses sRGB. > > I've tried Krita, but it doesn't work as well as GIMP tool wise, and I > can't specify images sizes very well at all- it only works on pixel > size, not inches or dpi/ppi. > > Therefore both are great for designing screen images, but not printed > images. I even tried using GIMP to design (using CMYK colours here), and > reformatting to a CMYK file with Krita. Problem with this is that the > image size doesn't work once reformatted, plus I need to export to pdf > which neither do and so printing to pdf means the final image size is an > A4 and god knows what dpi. > > Anything better out there? Might Scribus suit your needs? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 02:20:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6963716A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net) Received: from Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net (Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net [64.251.15.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4163E13C467 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net) Received: from cpe-24-243-189-26.hot.res.rr.com ([24.243.189.26] helo=MrSmith.RawFedDogs.net) by Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JS0vM-000FAv-1L for Questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:12:37 -0600 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:15:54 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Monceaux X-X-Sender: dokpm0@MrSmith.RawFedDogs.net To: Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20080221015400.GA69621@darklight.org.ru> Message-ID: References: <20080221015400.GA69621@darklight.org.ru> User-Agent: Alpine 1.00 (LNX 882 2007-12-20) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: dokpm0@Phideaux.RawFedDogs.net Cc: Subject: Re: Unicode Console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:20:06 -0000 Yuri, On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Yuri Pankov wrote: > Unicode isn't supported in syscons at all (AFAIK). Check > http://opal.com/jr/freebsd/unicode/ for more complete overview. Thanks for the info. According to the info at the above URL the FreeBSD syscons doesn't currently support unicode, but work is in progress. That page was last updated on 07/06/2007, so perhaps there has been some progress since then. I'll be watching for updates. Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 02:24:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBAD16A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu (math051.cs.arizona.edu [150.135.82.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DB413C45D for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JS16U-0006el-3p for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:24:06 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JS16R-0006eS-HO; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:24:03 -0700 Message-ID: <47BCE0C1.80502@math.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:24:01 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chad Perrin , questions@freebsd.org References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219161404.GB91805@demeter.hydra> <20080219163634.GA46198@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080219202749.GE92559@demeter.hydra> <20080221004656.GG97072@demeter.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20080221004656.GG97072@demeter.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:24:08 -0000 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > >>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: >>> >> [ snip a bunch of stuff ] >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:36:34AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> >>> A good rundown of some of the differences. >>> Maybe you can put this on a web page and get it added to lists >>> of comparrisons. >>> >> Sure. I'll polish it up and post it somewhere in that polished form, >> then reply here. If not today, I'll aim to get it done tomorrow. >> > > Okay, posted: > > http://arc.apotheon.org/freebsd/vs_linux.html > > If anyone has suggestions for how to fix it up further, let me know. > > Hi Chad, Here is my honest opinion. I hope it will help you improve the post :-) I didn't like very much the tone of the article as well as some pejorative conclusion. If you are going to post something even as a FreeBSD advocacy the tone of the article should be neutral and all claims verifiable. Do not get me wrong. I do not like Linux and more over I have never used it in my life but I would have hard time to swallow some of your claims. How would you feel if I tell you that I use mostly OpenBSD because it is easier for work than FreeBSD and in my experience much more stable than FreeBSD. Those are my subjective feelings and probably have little to do with the reality. If anything statement like that are irritating and have no value to a person who is deciding between using OpenBSD or FreeBSD. Try to find on the internet couple of advocacy articles by Greg Lehey. They are very well-written. Example: Statement of the type BSD appears more stable than Linux is non-verifiable. Statement of the type FreeBSD is direct decedent of the BSD flavor of Unix started in mid seventies at the University of California Berkley while the Linux kernel is Unix clone started in 1993 based on the mixture of System V and BSD Unix is verifiable. Or 80% of all servers with longest up time run FreeBSD is something that can be verified. You should definitely address the following things 1. FreeBSD is longer in the development than Linux. 2. Probably 80% of the servers with the longest UP time run FreeBSD. Give a link. Easy to find. 3. FreeBSD is a COMPLETE operating system GNU/Linux is not. 4. It has different development and engineering process than Linux. 5. It has better quality control at least because Linux has no quality control at all. 6. The Largest FTP sever on the world run FreeBSD (your beloved freebsd.org) 7. FreeBSD has one of the best systems for the installation of the third party software (ports and do not forget packages as some people will jump at you and make a claim that Debian has better packaging system as it is more efficient than compiling things from ports) 8. Most extensive collection of third party software (over 18000 ) only second to Debian. 9. One of the best documented systems 10. Mention the advantage of the BSD license comparing to GPL for the commercial use. 11. It is philosophically different than most Linux distros as all services are turned of by default. 12. Unlike Linux it doesn't claim that is the best and most suitable for everything. If you need security then Open is better choice. If you need something for embedded devices probably Net is better choice. 13. More secure than Linux if for no other reason but for PF which is ported from OpenBSD. Note that PF is not ported for Linux. 14. Kernel security level concept doesn't exist in Linux. Try to disperse common myth that BSD doesn't support hardware but do not be shy to admit that lack support for things like video conferencing. Do not be shy to admit that virtualization is poor and maybe intensionally as quite of few people do not believe that putting somebody's else cra*p on the top of FreeBSD will not make that cra*p working better or be more secure. If you need Window's application run Windows. Does it make a good Desktop system? Depends what do you mean by that. If you need everything working out of box for your grandmother Mily probably not. If you need Flash and Java plug-ins probably not. But if you need ROCK solid workstation for academic work, occasional multimedia and want to be 100% in control of your computer like me it is the best desktop OS around. 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( [68.35.151.186]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l21sm2360260rvb.26.2008.02.20.18.38.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:38:21 -0800 (PST) From: James To: Predrag Punosevac In-Reply-To: <47BCE0C1.80502@math.arizona.edu> References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219161404.GB91805@demeter.hydra> <20080219163634.GA46198@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080219202749.GE92559@demeter.hydra> <20080221004656.GG97072@demeter.hydra> <47BCE0C1.80502@math.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:38:19 -0700 Message-Id: <1203561499.6023.8.camel@pclmills> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Chad Perrin , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: oscartheduck@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:38:23 -0000 On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 19:24 -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > >>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > >>> > >> [ snip a bunch of stuff ] > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:36:34AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > >> > >>> A good rundown of some of the differences. > >>> Maybe you can put this on a web page and get it added to lists > >>> of comparrisons. > >>> > >> Sure. I'll polish it up and post it somewhere in that polished form, > >> then reply here. If not today, I'll aim to get it done tomorrow. > >> > > > > Okay, posted: > > > > http://arc.apotheon.org/freebsd/vs_linux.html > > > > If anyone has suggestions for how to fix it up further, let me know. > > > > > Hi Chad, > > Here is my honest opinion. I hope it will help you improve the post :-) > > I didn't like very much the tone of the article as well as some > pejorative conclusion. If you are going to post something even > as a FreeBSD advocacy the tone of the article should be neutral and all > claims verifiable. Do not get me wrong. I > do not like Linux and more over I have never used it in my life but I > would have hard time to swallow some of your claims. > > How would you feel if I tell you that I use mostly OpenBSD because it is > easier for work than FreeBSD and in my experience much more stable than > FreeBSD. Those are my subjective feelings and probably have little to > do with the reality. If anything statement like that are irritating and > have no value to a person who is deciding between using OpenBSD or FreeBSD. > > Try to find on the internet couple of advocacy articles by Greg Lehey. > They are very well-written. > > Example: Statement of the type BSD appears more stable than Linux is > non-verifiable. > Statement of the type FreeBSD is direct decedent of the BSD flavor of > Unix started in mid seventies at the University of California Berkley > while the Linux kernel is Unix clone started in 1993 based on the > mixture of System V and BSD Unix is > verifiable. Or 80% of all servers with longest up time run FreeBSD is > something that can be verified. > > You should definitely address the following things > > 1. FreeBSD is longer in the development than Linux. > > 2. Probably 80% of the servers with the longest UP time run FreeBSD. > Give a link. Easy to find. Just a note -- linux is often not included in the lists of longest uptime because it has a feature whereby the uptime counter resets itself after a period of time. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#hz1000 > > 3. FreeBSD is a COMPLETE operating system GNU/Linux is not. > > 4. It has different development and engineering process than Linux. > > 5. It has better quality control at least because Linux has no quality > control at all. > > 6. The Largest FTP sever on the world run FreeBSD (your beloved freebsd.org) > > 7. FreeBSD has one of the best systems for the installation of the third > party software (ports and do not forget packages > as some people will jump at you and make a claim that Debian has better > packaging system as it is more efficient than compiling things from ports) > > 8. Most extensive collection of third party software (over 18000 ) only > second to Debian. > > 9. One of the best documented systems > > 10. Mention the advantage of the BSD license comparing to GPL for the > commercial use. > > 11. It is philosophically different than most Linux distros as all > services are turned of by default. > > 12. Unlike Linux it doesn't claim that is the best and most suitable for > everything. If you need security then Open is better choice. If you > need something for embedded devices probably Net is better choice. > > 13. More secure than Linux if for no other reason but for PF which is > ported from OpenBSD. Note that PF is not ported for Linux. > > 14. Kernel security level concept doesn't exist in Linux. > > Try to disperse common myth that BSD doesn't support hardware but do not > be shy to admit that lack support for things like > video conferencing. > > Do not be shy to admit that virtualization is poor and maybe > intensionally as quite of few people do not believe that putting > somebody's else cra*p on the top of FreeBSD will not make that cra*p > working better or be more secure. If you need Window's application run > Windows. > > > Does it make a good Desktop system? Depends what do you mean by that. If > you need everything working out of box > for your grandmother Mily probably not. If you need Flash and Java > plug-ins probably not. But if you need ROCK solid > workstation for academic work, occasional multimedia and want to be 100% > in control of your computer like me it is the best desktop OS around. > > > Most Kind Regards, > > Predrag > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 03:14:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954B916A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA0E13C469 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1L3EliF001696; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:14:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id AvrDB6fx1ffm; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:14:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1L3Edqg001692; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:14:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <47BCEC9A.2010602@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:14:34 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070418 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lone Wolf References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:14:53 -0000 Lone Wolf wrote: > Hi. > How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu? > Thanks. > > > Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, > dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. > E.A Poe http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php kk -- I do desire we may be better strangers. -- William Shakespeare, As You Like It From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 05:24:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0309116A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE9A13C459 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m1L5OfoD035800 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:24:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m1L5OfMQ035799; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:24:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA20950; Wed, 20 Feb 08 21:12:32 PST Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:07:40 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: kline@thought.org Message-Id: <47bd071c.l1X4zL211zZ5iyza%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:24:42 -0000 > Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy > for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; > my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr (so you don't need to bother with CUPS). I am still on the original 1000-page starter cartridge. Replacements are rated 3000 sheets; I haven't priced them. That's black only. The cheapest color-capable networked PostScript printer I've found so far is the Xerox 6130N, for which I've been quoted $375 including $380 worth of cartridges (C, M, Y, K @ $95 each) -- Xerox seems to have some promotional pricing this month. IIRC the color cartridges are rated 1900 sheets and the black 2500. This one is also supposed to handle lpr natively. While I haven't got one (yet), I figure it is almost guaranteed to be good -- Xerox do not make junk. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 05:26:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0418C16A406 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s7.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s7.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD1713C45E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY126-DS2 ([65.55.131.29]) by bay0-omc1-s7.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:14:03 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [69.243.79.11] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com><20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au><20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au><20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra><1203468277.6470.114.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au><20080220235019.GF97072@demeter.hydra> <1203553940.3455.6.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> From: "Sean Cavanaugh" To: X-Unsent: 1 References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com><20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au><20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au><20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra><1203468277.6470.114.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au><20080220235019.GF97072@demeter.hydra> <1203553940.3455.6.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:13:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2008 05:14:03.0636 (UTC) FILETIME=[9336AB40:01C87448] Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:26:04 -0000 Easy way to describe the differences between UNIX, Linux and BSD http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php -Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 06:03:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6063516A403 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu (math051.cs.arizona.edu [150.135.82.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FAB13C45A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JS4X0-0006q4-Sf for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:03:43 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JS4Ws-0006pm-NL; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:03:34 -0700 Message-ID: <47BD1434.90006@math.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:03:32 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com, questions@freebsd.org References: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> <47bd071c.l1X4zL211zZ5iyza%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <47bd071c.l1X4zL211zZ5iyza%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Cc: Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:03:44 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy >> for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; >> my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. >> > > A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at > Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network > port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr What is lpr? Usually printers speak Post Script or PCL printer command language in which case you need a driver. LPD, LPRng, and CUPS are different spooling systems. Did you attach the printer to a computer or is acting as a free standing printer server. The driver for that particular printer is just a "generic postscript" driver included in the ghostscript. However the recommended post script description file is *ML-2570ps-ppd *which is included on the CD that comes with the printer. According to Linux Printing the printer is NOT included in the foomatic-db. According to same source OpenOffice which I do not use has a problem with ML-2570ps-ppd. It looks to me as an excellent choice. I liked the fact that the printer can get IP address as DHCP or via web-interface. That means that it can act as a free standing printer server. Printer server alone cost $100-150. Thank you so much for the info as the price is really great. Best, Predrag > (so you don't > need to bother with CUPS). > > I am still on the original 1000-page starter cartridge. Replacements > are rated 3000 sheets; I haven't priced them. > > That's black only. The cheapest color-capable networked PostScript > printer I've found so far is the Xerox 6130N, for which I've been > quoted $375 including $380 worth of cartridges (C, M, Y, K @ $95 each) > -- Xerox seems to have some promotional pricing this month. IIRC the > color cartridges are rated 1900 sheets and the black 2500. This one > is also supposed to handle lpr natively. While I haven't got one (yet), > I figure it is almost guaranteed to be good -- Xerox do not make junk. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 06:32:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410C616A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9159013C44B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:32:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1L6VvGV044019; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:31:58 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m1L6VvGV044019 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47BD1ADD.5050503@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:31:57 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: oscartheduck@gmail.com References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219161404.GB91805@demeter.hydra> <20080219163634.GA46198@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080219202749.GE92559@demeter.hydra> <20080221004656.GG97072@demeter.hydra> <47BCE0C1.80502@math.arizona.edu> <1203561499.6023.8.camel@pclmills> In-Reply-To: <1203561499.6023.8.camel@pclmills> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:31:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5904/Thu Feb 21 04:36:41 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Predrag Punosevac , questions@freebsd.org, Chad Perrin Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:32:07 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 James wrote: > On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 19:24 -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: >> 2. Probably 80% of the servers with the longest UP time run FreeBSD. >> Give a link. Easy to find. > Just a note -- linux is often not included in the lists of longest > uptime because it has a feature whereby the uptime counter resets itself > after a period of time. > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#hz1000 So do some recent versions of FreeBSD. It depends on what the HZ setting is. Besides, any server that is left running continually for that length of time is a neglected, unmaintained server and nothing to boast about. If you want something to brag about, look at the availability stats for hosting companies. It's a much better indicator of overall reliability, and companies running FreeBSD are generally very well represented in the top 10 each month. http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2008/02/12/swishmail_is_the_most_reliable_hosting_company_in_january_2008.html Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHvRrd8Mjk52CukIwRCKanAJ9wLnzsZyJhignCF1FmSOJn9dlOjgCbBcK2 TY2+Ghj9mbNQiVEqsq7K4LQ= =HDfk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 06:36:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D354A16A405 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12BC13C4EB for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JS52K-0001n2-0o for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:36:05 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JS52C-0001mj-Vo; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:35:57 -0700 Message-ID: <47BD1BC7.4000609@math.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:35:51 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com, questions@freebsd.org References: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> <47bd071c.l1X4zL211zZ5iyza%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <47BD1434.90006@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <47BD1434.90006@math.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Cc: Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:36:06 -0000 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>> Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy >>> for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; >>> my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. >>> >> >> A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at >> Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network >> port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr > What is lpr? Usually printers speak Post Script or PCL printer command > language in which case you need a driver. > LPD, LPRng, and CUPS are different spooling systems. > Did you attach the printer to a computer or is acting as a free > standing printer server. > There is a lpr driver by Brother for Linux. Brother and Canon have binary blob drivers. Did you use that driver may be? Does anyone know if those binary blobs can be useful for anything on FreeBSD. They appear to be wrappers for standard Ghost Script drivers. I noticed also that some drivers for older Brother printers are removed from Ghost Script 7.0 and 8.0. It appears that they are useful for some of the newest and very solid monochromatic laser Brother printers which go for less than $50 on the NewEgg. Maybe the port maintainer should edit make file so that they compile. Cheers, Predrag > The driver for that particular printer is just a "generic postscript" > driver included in the ghostscript. However the recommended post > script description file is *ML-2570ps-ppd *which is included on the > CD that comes with the printer. > According to Linux Printing the printer is NOT included in the > foomatic-db. According to same source OpenOffice > which I do not use has a problem with ML-2570ps-ppd. > > It looks to me as an excellent choice. I liked the fact that the > printer can get IP address as DHCP or via web-interface. > That means that it can act as a free standing printer server. Printer > server alone cost $100-150. > > > Thank you so much for the info as the price is really great. > > Best, > Predrag > > > >> (so you don't >> need to bother with CUPS). >> >> I am still on the original 1000-page starter cartridge. Replacements >> are rated 3000 sheets; I haven't priced them. >> >> That's black only. The cheapest color-capable networked PostScript >> printer I've found so far is the Xerox 6130N, for which I've been >> quoted $375 including $380 worth of cartridges (C, M, Y, K @ $95 each) >> -- Xerox seems to have some promotional pricing this month. IIRC the >> color cartridges are rated 1900 sheets and the black 2500. This one >> is also supposed to handle lpr natively. While I haven't got one (yet), >> I figure it is almost guaranteed to be good -- Xerox do not make junk. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 06:49:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8866916A404 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C61D13C457 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A328C405493; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:49:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BD1F14.9030903@bsdforen.de> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:49:56 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Monceaux References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Unicode Console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:49:59 -0000 Kevin Monceaux wrote: > Fellow FreeBSD Fans, > > I've been running FreeBSD on a web/mail server, which I only have remote > access to, for a while now. At home I've been running Linux since the > 1.xx kernel days but am considering switching my desktop box to FreeBSD. > > I never given much thought to my locale setting until recently. I'm > about to start participating in an online Spanish study group, via > e-mail, and might also be following along with an Old English study > group. I'm an old fashioned kinda user and prefer to do as much as I > can via the text console. I compose/read e-mail via Alpine. After some > trial and error I finally convinced my Linux box, currently running Arch > Linux, to handle all of the "special" characters I need via the > console. In the end, it amounted to: > > 1. Add "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" to /etc/locale.gen > > 2. run locale-gen > > 3. set LANG to en_US.UTF-8 > > 4. Switch to a font that contains the symbols I need. I'm currently > using one of the Terminus console fonts. For some reason I had to > switch to a framebuffer console otherwise after executing > unicode_start the font was way too dim. > > 5. run unicode_start(added to my .cshrc file) All this is not necessary. Just set the encoding in "/etc/login.conf" and run cap_mkdb on it afterwards. This is from my login.conf: :charset=UTF-8:\ :lang=en_GB.UTF-8:\ You can also set this on a per-user basis in the file "~/.login_conf". It won't work for the console, but in a terminal emulator (I prefer rxvt-unicode, but uxterm should also work.) it works fine. My FreeBSD system uses UTF-8 and I never encountered problems because of this. You just have to remember to mount fat devices with "-L $LANG". The only thing to take care of is that the machine you're SSHing from uses the same charset. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 06:58:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4AC16A407 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-13.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-13.bluehost.com [69.89.18.113]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC54C13C459 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 21077 invoked by uid 0); 21 Feb 2008 06:58:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 06:58:47 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JS5OJ-0000jU-05 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:58:47 -0700 Received: by demeter.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:58:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:58:46 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080221065846.GB98271@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219161404.GB91805@demeter.hydra> <20080219163634.GA46198@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080219202749.GE92559@demeter.hydra> <20080221004656.GG97072@demeter.hydra> <47BCE0C1.80502@math.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47BCE0C1.80502@math.arizona.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.9.123.251 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:58:48 -0000 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 07:24:01PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Chad Perrin wrote: > > > >If anyone has suggestions for how to fix it up further, let me know. > > > > > Hi Chad, > > Here is my honest opinion. I hope it will help you improve the post :-) I do too. > > I didn't like very much the tone of the article as well as some > pejorative conclusion. If you are going to post something even > as a FreeBSD advocacy the tone of the article should be neutral and all > claims verifiable. Do not get me wrong. I > do not like Linux and more over I have never used it in my life but I > would have hard time to swallow some of your claims. > > How would you feel if I tell you that I use mostly OpenBSD because it is > easier for work than FreeBSD and in my experience much more stable than > FreeBSD. Those are my subjective feelings and probably have little to > do with the reality. If anything statement like that are irritating and > have no value to a person who is deciding between using OpenBSD or FreeBSD. Frankly, I might be inclined to believe you with regard to stability, based on what I know of OpenBSD. I'd also be likely to think your "easier for work" was either purely personal preference or based on a specific set of working conditions that might favor OpenBSD in particular. > > Try to find on the internet couple of advocacy articles by Greg Lehey. > They are very well-written. > > Example: Statement of the type BSD appears more stable than Linux is > non-verifiable. > Statement of the type FreeBSD is direct decedent of the BSD flavor of > Unix started in mid seventies at the University of California Berkley > while the Linux kernel is Unix clone started in 1993 based on the > mixture of System V and BSD Unix is > verifiable. Or 80% of all servers with longest up time run FreeBSD is > something that can be verified. Good point, re: uptime numbers. On the other hand, because of the limited uptime number problem with Linux, that doesn't really mean anything. There's no verifiable and useful uptime comparison I'm aware of. > > You should definitely address the following things > > 1. FreeBSD is longer in the development than Linux. > > 2. Probably 80% of the servers with the longest UP time run FreeBSD. > Give a link. Easy to find. > > 3. FreeBSD is a COMPLETE operating system GNU/Linux is not. That's not much of an argument. A Linux distribution is a complete OS, even if the Linux kernel isn't. Saying something like "FreeBSD is a complete OS, Linux isn't," would just sound like verbal trickery. I think I'll avoid that approach. > > 4. It has different development and engineering process than Linux. I addressed some of that. > > 5. It has better quality control at least because Linux has no quality > control at all. Untrue -- unless you have different definitions of "quality control" or "no" than I have. > > 6. The Largest FTP sever on the world run FreeBSD (your beloved freebsd.org) > > 7. FreeBSD has one of the best systems for the installation of the third > party software (ports and do not forget packages > as some people will jump at you and make a claim that Debian has better > packaging system as it is more efficient than compiling things from ports) I started discussing this in my original, and I intend to get into more detail at some point with an update of the page. > > 8. Most extensive collection of third party software (over 18000 ) only > second to Debian. Looking back at it, I'm surprised I didn't mention that. > > 9. One of the best documented systems I'm pretty sure I mentioned that. > > 10. Mention the advantage of the BSD license comparing to GPL for the > commercial use. That's a matter that should be addressed separately, in a philosophical sense. On the other hand, it might be relevant for purposes of discussing commercial use. I'll have to consider whether that's something I want to include on that page. > > 11. It is philosophically different than most Linux distros as all > services are turned of by default. That's something that needs to be handled carefully -- but I think it's worth mentioning. > > 12. Unlike Linux it doesn't claim that is the best and most suitable for > everything. If you need security then Open is better choice. If you > need something for embedded devices probably Net is better choice. I don't think Linux claims such, either. Rather, some Linux advocates claim that -- as do some FreeBSD advocates. The fact that dramatically fewer FreeBSD advocates make claims like that, however, is part of the reason I referred to the fact that the FreeBSD community tends to be "less crazy in its approach to OS advocacy, than the communities for most Linux distributions." > > 13. More secure than Linux if for no other reason but for PF which is > ported from OpenBSD. Note that PF is not ported for Linux. . . . yet. I seem to recall reading about plans for such a thing, though now I can't find any mention of it. > > 14. Kernel security level concept doesn't exist in Linux. > > Try to disperse common myth that BSD doesn't support hardware but do not > be shy to admit that lack support for things like > video conferencing. > > Do not be shy to admit that virtualization is poor and maybe > intensionally as quite of few people do not believe that putting > somebody's else cra*p on the top of FreeBSD will not make that cra*p > working better or be more secure. If you need Window's application run > Windows. As far as I'm concerned, this is just a net lose. Virtualization is handy when you want to be able to run two different OSes on only one box at the same time, for instance. That doesn't mean I won't mention it, though, since the point of the page is more to mention differences between FreeBSD and Linux -- not just to make FreeBSD sound good. > > Does it make a good Desktop system? Depends what do you mean by that. If > you need everything working out of box > for your grandmother Mily probably not. If you need Flash and Java > plug-ins probably not. But if you need ROCK solid > workstation for academic work, occasional multimedia and want to be 100% > in control of your computer like me it is the best desktop OS around. All in all, I think your email has given me some ideas for things to add to the page, possible ways to modify what's already there, and stuff to think about in general. Thanks. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Phillip J. Haack: "Productivity is not about speed. It's about velocity. You can be fast, but if you're going in the wrong direction, you're not helping anyone." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 08:19:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEC416A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laa@hyp.ru) Received: from relay.hyp.ru (relay.hyp.ru [194.186.216.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FC013C46A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laa@hyp.ru) Received: from " laa" by relay.hyp.ru with local (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1JS689-0008x2-T4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:46:09 +0300 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:46:09 +0300 From: Lystopad Oleksandr To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080221074609.GN79704@laa.zp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: Mutt Sender: Lystopad Oleksandr X-Bounce-ID: relay.hyp.ru Subject: wi0 (4.11) <=> rum0 (7.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:19:19 -0000 Hi! I have two FreeBSD boxes. One with 4.11 and wi0 device, and another with 7.0-PRE with rum0 device. I need to connect wi0 and rum0 via adhoc mode. 7.0 cant find wi0 device with ifconfig rum0 scan. Please, help me to connect this two networks together. ifconfig rum0: rum0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:c0:a8:f4:53:18 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet DS/11Mbps mode 11b status: no carrier ssid MYNET channel 1 (2412 Mhz 11b) bssid 00:02:2d:30:2d:22 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpower 50 scanvalid 60 bgscan bgscanintvl 300 bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi11b 7 roam:rate11b 1 roaming MANUAL ifconfig wi0: wi0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.xx.xx.10 netmask 0xfffffffc broadcast 10.xx.xx.11 ether 00:02:2d:30:2d:22 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps ) status: associated ssid MYNET 1:RS stationname my-name channel 1 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 Thanks -- Oleksandr Lystopad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 08:45:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D278916A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA6B13C4EE for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from Home.local (32.Red-80-37-158.staticIP.rima-tde.net [80.37.158.32]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1D53982D; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:45:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BD3A0B.2030806@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:44:59 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Bradford References: <47BCC9C6.9050501@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <47BCC9C6.9050501@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting FS read-only for specific user (or root) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:45:09 -0000 Andrew Bradford wrote: > I'm trying to set up a mounted filesystem that is read-write for root, > but read-only for anyone else. It will be mounted as a backup > directory, so files listed in that directory will be owned by current > users on the system but can't be writeable, regardless of the file > permissions. > > hd2 mounted rw in /root/backup-rw > hd2 mounted ro in /backups > > Is this possible? Have you tried? ;) I assume the reasoning for this is you want to preserve permissions and attributes on your backup, so you can't solve this simply by setting permissions appropriately. But then, do users need frequent access to their backup? Then you could simply mount it on a mount point which only has root access. Cheers, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 09:40:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE65B16A409 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E12013C4EA for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m1L9eacV069955 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:40:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m1L9eaog069954; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA21580; Thu, 21 Feb 08 01:31:22 PST Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:26:29 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: punosevac@math.arizona.edu Message-Id: <47bd43c5.1179RhaITzzeGoJP%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> <47bd071c.l1X4zL211zZ5iyza%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <47BD1434.90006@math.arizona.edu> <47BD1BC7.4000609@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <47BD1BC7.4000609@math.arizona.edu> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:40:37 -0000 > >>> Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy > >>> for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; > >>> my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. > >> > >> A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at > >> Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network > >> port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr > > > > What is lpr? see "man lpr" and its "see also" entries. > > Usually printers speak Post Script or PCL printer command > > language As I said, this one speaks PostScript. > > in which case you need a driver. Not in this case :) > > LPD, LPRng, and CUPS are different spooling systems. > > Did you attach the printer to a computer or is acting as a free > > standing printer server. It is freestanding. > There is a lpr driver by Brother for Linux. Brother and Canon have > binary blob drivers. Did you use that driver may be? I didn't install any drivers, just added it to printcap and hosts: lp|Samsung ML-2571N PostScript network printer:\ :sh:\ :rm=ml2571n:sd=/var/spool/output/ml2571n:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: 192.168.200.201 ml2571n and it Just Works (TM). I suppose apps like OpenOffice might need to be told it is a PostScript printer. If I needed to do that, and didn't have anything more specific handy, I would just configure it as a LaserWriter NTX. I have yet to find a monochrome PostScript printer for which that does not work well enough. > Does anyone know if those binary blobs can be useful for anything > on FreeBSD. They appear to be wrappers for standard Ghost Script > drivers. I noticed also that some drivers for older Brother > printers are removed from Ghost Script 7.0 and 8.0. AFAIK GS is only needed if you want to print PostScript files on a printer that does not contain a PostScript interpreter. It's not needed when dealing with a PostScript printer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 10:39:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E28F16A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C0113C465 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite ([24.166.217.200]) by hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20080221103907.BCMN7178.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@satellite> for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:39:07 +0000 Message-ID: <000301c87475$e2cc61e0$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "Dave" To: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:38:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: mount_msdosfs options with mp3 player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:39:08 -0000 Hello, I've got a Zen Stone mp3 player that i plugged in to my freebsd 6.2 machine. It was detected fine as da0 and i mounted it with: mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt I'm wanting to make modifications, add/remove files and directories under fbsd, as opposed to windows. My question is with this mp3 player or a player in general with the msdosfs filesystem is there any special mount options i have to pass and failing to do so will corrupt the unit? I'd also like this player to always show up as da0 no matter which port i plug it in to. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 10:41:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EAE16A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2862313C44B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3D4DB487; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:41:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:41:41 -0700 From: cpghost To: "s.g." Message-ID: <20080221104141.GA80437@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <47BA962E.5060504@theconcept.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47BA962E.5060504@theconcept.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GELI encryption and HDD critical temperature X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:41:44 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:41:18AM +0300, s.g. wrote: > According to smartctl -a, the temperature of the encrypted drives is ~59C. > The temperature of the unencrypted drive is, however, ~41C, according to > the same smartctl -a. The CPU has to work extra hard to encrypt/decrypt, and it is possible that the extra heat this generates is absorbed by the HDDs. But since the only drive that's overheating is the encrypted one, it seems to be something else. > Am I right assuming GELI encryption is the reason for such a "global > warming"? I don't know. But I've noticed that when drives access GBDE-encrypted partitions (I didn't try with GELI yet), they are much louder (head seeking). It seems they seek more often on encrypted than non-encrypted partitions. Perhaps caching is turned off at some point up the chain? If that's the case, it is no wonder that encrypted partitions tend to result in higher drive temps (and faster drive wear). Is there a way to measure the number of head seeks in near real-time to confirm or disprove this? > Grigorian -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 11:21:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7898616A408 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5148113C442 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667761CC8B; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:21:08 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Dave Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:17:51 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <000301c87475$e2cc61e0$0200a8c0@satellite> In-Reply-To: <000301c87475$e2cc61e0$0200a8c0@satellite> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802211217.51946.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: mount_msdosfs options with mp3 player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:21:09 -0000 On Thursday 21 February 2008 11:38:23 Dave wrote: > I'd also like this player to always show up as da0 no matter which port > i plug it in to. No can do, but there is glabel(8). Label the disk with whatever tool you want as for example "ZEN_STONE" and it will always be available as: /dev/msdosfs/ZEN_STONE. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 12:07:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FFB16A406 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siraj.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EAB413C474 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siraj.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so7512pyb.10 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:07:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=UwZDWih37X7noA9MXKXBrr+WhQ6yqw+jxN9tnxrBDNM=; b=Pwt7zBJGaarNTKGlQyNOq8YrvVNTal+O8q3LrG06VJ0ekXTYOe/+AzuudOpp14hQ5Z4HB8KkL9m/WME3br6x+CYXSVlk3rShqBfyW5z7smTpByn24q5wYEJ5uwj1vC/pe86M6biIbCJiOMOGwqCFwsap0Ogox8T+w9KaIoQNAYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=J46fgs1Z676Hy6Z9Ths0iONJKmxcvPXtfM9SggrPs1RhmgWZKWTMksbxzj4DoXZdqsWyRzbQ0MW7sxyMp3qHU5eJGN17cPFw3UhFUwiVg/MI5tuOWO10JZZ4y+K/80+7v1GKsFPc8VNtLkqNHLX0IExOmNdSqALzW5+tvGx8+K8= Received: by 10.141.37.8 with SMTP id p8mr6619754rvj.150.1203595628669; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:07:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.162.17 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:07:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3b2ddd940802210407j7b83059duabadeccaec53a26c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:07:08 +0000 From: "Siraj Shaikh" To: "Olivier Nicole" In-Reply-To: <200801290234.m0T2YtLn074403@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3b2ddd940801280627m6d747cd1g27682bcd9e50ceb7@mail.gmail.com> <200801290234.m0T2YtLn074403@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP Aliasing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:07:11 -0000 On 29/01/2008, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > 1) is there an upper limit to configuring a number of alias addresses? > > I have a machine with 200+ IP without any problem. > > > 2) if an interface is configured with an alias address, then what > > address is shown on the traffic leaving this interface? So, for > > example, if I were to ping this machine on its primary address, I > > expect to get a response from the primary address of the interface. > > What happens if I ping an alias address, would I get a response from > > By default exiting traffic is using the primary address (the one > defined with no keyword alias in the ifconfig). I think there is a way > to choose the exiting IP. > > When a paket is responding, it use the same IP that was used in the > query (else any firewall would be confused in the way). > > > > 3) In the above scenario, all traffic leaving the interface > > (regardless of the source IP on it) will have the same MAC address > > (the one of the interface) - is that right? > > > Right except maybe some NIC that allow several MAC addresses? That > could be used in hi availability? > > > > 4) Does anyone know if there are there any other network > > characteristics or behaviour by which we can distinguish a machine > > having more than one IP address (primary plus alias) configued on one > > of its interface? > > > Once you cross a router, you don't see the MAC of the machine anymore, > MAC is local to your LAN anyway. > > Olivier > > > One last thing I wanted to know (sorry to email after a long delay), in order for me to add aliases that I want to remain configured on the machine at every boot, I can simply add, for exmaple, the following lines to the rc.conf file? ifconfig_ed0_alias0="inet 127.0.0.251 netmask 0xffffffff" ifconfig_ed0_alias1="inet 127.0.0.252 netmask 0xffffffff" ifconfig_ed0_alias2="inet 127.0.0.253 netmask 0xffffffff" Just want to know, as I want to configure about 253 addresses as an alias on a single machine (along with the primary address, this will be 254 address, a whole C-class subnet) - and would like these entries to hold when I boot. Also, is there any shortcut to adding a range of net/host address or would I have to add a line for each address? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 12:33:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D008916A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:33:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F24013C457 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:33:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC90F1CD55; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:33:37 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:33:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <3b2ddd940801280627m6d747cd1g27682bcd9e50ceb7@mail.gmail.com> <200801290234.m0T2YtLn074403@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <3b2ddd940802210407j7b83059duabadeccaec53a26c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3b2ddd940802210407j7b83059duabadeccaec53a26c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802211333.36144.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Olivier Nicole , Siraj Shaikh Subject: Re: IP Aliasing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:33:38 -0000 On Thursday 21 February 2008 13:07:08 Siraj Shaikh wrote: > ifconfig_ed0_alias0="inet 127.0.0.251 netmask 0xffffffff" > ifconfig_ed0_alias1="inet 127.0.0.252 netmask 0xffffffff" > ifconfig_ed0_alias2="inet 127.0.0.253 netmask 0xffffffff" > > Just want to know, as I want to configure about 253 addresses as an > alias on a single machine (along with the primary address, this will > be 254 address, a whole C-class subnet) - and would like these entries > to hold when I boot. Also, is there any shortcut to adding a range of > net/host address or would I have to add a line for each address? Yes and yes. Yes it needs one line per alias and yes, there's a shortcut: for i in $(jot - 0 254); do echo ifconfig_ed0_alias${i}="\"inet 127.0.0.$((i+1)) netmask 0xffffffff\"" done >>/etc/rc.conf Wouldn't do this with 127.0.0 btw, but I figured you wouldn't. You'd also have to make a provision for the main IP, but then again, it's easier to remove the specific line by hand. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 12:35:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3259C16A403 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:35:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siraj.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083DB13C469 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from siraj.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so8275rvb.43 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:35:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=krsvJzBtMuuPcplL/GFqVXaZGihVqk9VRjv2wutcw5Y=; b=ScL1P0h/1PwTT2d1p58O7d1EaacIHsxNxQUuTl0a+/X1rCXjqlCyxuHRMqf8KLbfTyiaHiVlk80/yMrgnyKK685O4z6VoxbE4xiXbeSauF+WWQv4dUV1qbLvq/AxLxV00mgryRu7CofVUolgq0eNNyeRHtVbMUeZ8r1tM2HErVo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jwb1l3JlouLk/R6GoX0z7YupfmO8AVfz+rOVMZBKcMQmDZPoEaqEm1GpA8rN7E1sXaxsxB6RtCracuzDHI9sFhCSra1hA2njxogJjppE6TMnufID8XYIXJZn7z6Xie/KHrH5DueogEfD1fqtdIOrVdOPDymIdHj7RVoX+VEx+ag= Received: by 10.141.169.9 with SMTP id w9mr6665996rvo.77.1203597323149; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.162.17 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:35:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3b2ddd940802210435n5d460dc1l82615e927255e2a6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:35:23 +0000 From: "Siraj Shaikh" To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200802211333.36144.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3b2ddd940801280627m6d747cd1g27682bcd9e50ceb7@mail.gmail.com> <200801290234.m0T2YtLn074403@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <3b2ddd940802210407j7b83059duabadeccaec53a26c@mail.gmail.com> <200802211333.36144.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP Aliasing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:35:24 -0000 On 21/02/2008, Mel wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2008 13:07:08 Siraj Shaikh wrote: > > > ifconfig_ed0_alias0="inet 127.0.0.251 netmask 0xffffffff" > > ifconfig_ed0_alias1="inet 127.0.0.252 netmask 0xffffffff" > > ifconfig_ed0_alias2="inet 127.0.0.253 netmask 0xffffffff" > > > > Just want to know, as I want to configure about 253 addresses as an > > alias on a single machine (along with the primary address, this will > > be 254 address, a whole C-class subnet) - and would like these entries > > to hold when I boot. Also, is there any shortcut to adding a range of > > net/host address or would I have to add a line for each address? > > > Yes and yes. Yes it needs one line per alias and yes, there's a shortcut: > > for i in $(jot - 0 254); do > echo ifconfig_ed0_alias${i}="\"inet 127.0.0.$((i+1)) netmask 0xffffffff\"" > done >>/etc/rc.conf > > Wouldn't do this with 127.0.0 btw, but I figured you wouldn't. You'd also have > to make a provision for the main IP, but then again, it's easier to remove > the specific line by hand. > -- > > Mel > Thanks Mel - very helpful indeed Siraj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 12:56:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DF316A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@bounces.jaxtr.com) Received: from smtp146.sv.jaxtr.com (smtp146.sv.jaxtr.com [74.201.86.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E6113C469 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@bounces.jaxtr.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=jaxtr.com; s=dkim1024; c=simple/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@jaxtr.com; t=1203598616; h=From:Sender; bh=hOcrHWLHwbekqg7GR4x5/qN04KM=; b=tYhP1A37C3DeBaeBTNZgZwrFcp9Pre50NfylDEy3ZWua5qDL56iIjaosg2GcNV9V DGElDMhaZSR/e2CrkQ7uJuuibSKfij59E45RWEzdUM9pRBQKWSJxRzfSSUR1aijC wSnO7IYSODjiydZ7xGojhpRoafs9Qc7BGt4+I1BN2j0=; DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=dk1024; d=jaxtr.com; h=Received:Date:From:Sender:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Sysflow; b=L7tkZk9G/sPgCRpa6e+bzZ2SKHYhPtpMeyPpoOJ/ueqK/otNVk7ZRq8qSb7n8JOX u3Pyhm+AobMdsRbp+VA2isNeeem/q98aKQ8MQjpaci7YHf53GpRZb6zazcToiDhJ PMmAi6Q6BIo96qqwx3EdDNFx01T3gjcgebh51CfjcPg= Received: from [74.201.86.160] ([74.201.86.160:51601] helo=que1.sv.jaxtr.com) by smtp1.sv.jaxtr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.1.23 r(20421)) with ESMTP id 28/77-16206-8157DB74; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:56:56 +0000 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:56:56 +0000 (GMT) From: tatusar ranjan Sender: bounces@jaxtr.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1556652075.660121203598616811.JavaMail.tomcat@que1.sv.jaxtr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sysflow: cv,20080215t2349,yct6bx.x4iqme,220636772 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Take a look at jaxtr! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:56:57 -0000 I am using jaxtr, and if you also sign up, we can talk for free on the phone at any time. -tatusar P.S. Here is the link to sign up: http://www.jaxtr.com/user/ticket?n=T1u3zdqantrd5j&type=joininvite --- Delivered by jaxtr, Inc., 855 Oak Grove Avenue, Suite 100, Menlo Park, California 94025. To stop receiving messages from this sender go to http://www.jaxtr.com/user/reportabuse.jsp?it=T1u3zdqantrd5j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 13:51:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EE116A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.belair@rogers.com) Received: from web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com [216.39.53.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05D0013C4F3 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.belair@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 15951 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Feb 2008 13:24:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=B9gsSYfeai11lMBJu0kO26BX0WelVETSyknV54rNuissoNt3wQ3NZkMu+jDLskH9Hyb+P6RhsZo0KyifgFYkLcpEFgSMaIcKGGXy8vf8pixAbpmuJ4rZBKzvvYbQfmFsIWkiie4vpzHzq/BqPpxt2adu+QL2E3yGayXQ37QV6iY=; X-YMail-OSG: gC..Ie4VM1mBUYS1S4jKE47mPlTIl0pqaZj5dNX7MW4Yf93W Received: from [99.245.244.139] by web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:24:31 EST Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:24:31 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Belair To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <884285.14864.qm@web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: HP LaserJet not uploading firmware permission denied ulpt0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:51:13 -0000 I'm using 6.3 FreeBSD Is there a fix that works. I have a hp laserjet 1000 printer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 14:22:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151FD16A403 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DC413C459 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so77960wri.3 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:22:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=VkVWnf7PymTwtOC+V2AIWZlcdNGvJeRng3+4QsEJVjY=; b=Sn+frIyhNMWpVgOb3GWgeUKL786PPcAfyVpgl53yCuag2yHBehtpl2YriTZoXKEgPBRLOHxLzl8uS9Ch5XdExAFE7K5g8LR66Jr1WOSNzaI0Hc79vdhe1Y4YIegE1i9YviQ0LqA6ghLn7gHDyZTz5K3dQfg8YqyirAcIPasm7jA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=BRVx4TZnP3qSq6Z6u0HDk9GXvIrxRsNZlXPd+0oEQg3Pzd4UTXwR1W5z9rIftag02QF/ViyP10eDemSDgG2/MESrj8a3Ph4DEU+Prsi3Lzo1OeTSUfGNyOUJSZSppgxggFKhre3tKj0tJQSsmRuM7upV2SlXB+q0vy7fWfj1FMU= Received: by 10.115.90.1 with SMTP id s1mr3817485wal.50.1203602268673; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.235.7 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:57:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2949641c0802210557r6320d48bva4315e0511a19c8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:57:48 -0300 From: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 6.3 on PowerMac G5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:22:18 -0000 Hi guys, does the release for the powerpc arch. runs fine in a PowerMac G5 box? Anyone have already tried this? Cheers, Alaor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 14:37:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66CE16A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:37:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C7A13C469 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LEZIPe001819; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:35:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1LEZD9a001816; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:35:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:35:13 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dave In-Reply-To: <000301c87475$e2cc61e0$0200a8c0@satellite> Message-ID: <20080221153446.D1306@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <000301c87475$e2cc61e0$0200a8c0@satellite> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mount_msdosfs options with mp3 player X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:37:49 -0000 > Hello, > I've got a Zen Stone mp3 player that i plugged in to my freebsd 6.2 > machine. It was detected fine as da0 and i mounted it with: > > mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt yes it is enough. or mtools are ok too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 14:47:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F9616A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE71E13C4E3 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 21 Feb 2008 09:47:11 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id JSJ52750; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 21 Feb 2008 09:45:37 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18365.36615.911448.294035@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:47:35 -0500 To: Dominic Fandrey In-Reply-To: <47BD1F14.9030903@bsdforen.de> References: <47BD1F14.9030903@bsdforen.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Kevin Monceaux , Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unicode Console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:47:16 -0000 Dominic Fandrey writes: > It won't work for the console, but in a terminal emulator (I > prefer rxvt-unicode, but uxterm should also work.) it works > fine. My FreeBSD system uses UTF-8 and I never encountered > problems because of this. Have I missed the announcement, or is it still the case the filesystem is not UTF compatible? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 14:57:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB0716A408 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A4113C448 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (dsl092-075-097.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.75.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LEYBuT076490 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:34:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:34:11 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5915/Thu Feb 21 07:36:26 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:57:59 -0000 I recently recomplied the apache20 port (updated) with no compile-time changes. Since that time, I noticed it was hogging 98% of the CPU and hanging. I adjusted the various Max/Min server levels and that seemed to fix it - except at midnight when the logs are rotated and the server is sent a HUP signal. When that happens, all the processes die except one and it hangs at 90% CPU. I kill it off, restart it manually and it behaves fine. Here's a recent output of "top" : PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 94711 www 1 117 0 41036K 13852K RUN 0 1:43 98.69% httpd The only thing that has changed on the system is an upgrade from MySQL-4.1 to MySQL-5.1, which I wouldn't expect httpd to be affected by, but I could be wrong. To be sure, I recompiled it, PHP and any dependencies that PHP has, but I'm still seeing the same result. I tried compiling MySQL-5.1 with and without pthreads and see the same CPU consumption issue. I wonder if I've hit a bug or if I've possibly messed something up (as careful as I've been anyway). Thanks, Forrest From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 14:58:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2968316A408 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [204.121.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C9513C4F6 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:58:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E0D540446; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:58:57 -0700 (MST) X-CTN-5-Virus-Scanner: amavisd-new at mailwasher.lanl.gov Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4597454044D; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:58:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from mailrelay3.lanl.gov (mailrelay3.lanl.gov [128.165.4.104]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4370754044A; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:58:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from oppie-mail.lanl.gov (oppie-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.123]) by mailrelay3.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id m1LEwuu4030386; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:58:56 -0700 Received: from [128.165.86.60] (p25dual1.lanl.gov [128.165.86.60]) by oppie-mail.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B3C1F8007; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:58:52 -0700 (MST) From: James Harrison To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20080221065846.GB98271@demeter.hydra> References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219161404.GB91805@demeter.hydra> <20080219163634.GA46198@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080219202749.GE92559@demeter.hydra> <20080221004656.GG97072@demeter.hydra> <47BCE0C1.80502@math.arizona.edu> <20080221065846.GB98271@demeter.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Los Alamos National Labs Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:58:51 -0700 Message-Id: <1203605931.2479.49.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 (2.8.0-33.0.1.el5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: jamesh@lanl.gov X-Spam-Status: No Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jamesh@lanl.gov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:58:58 -0000 > > > > > 8. Most extensive collection of third party software (over 18000 ) only > > second to Debian. > > Looking back at it, I'm surprised I didn't mention that. > Gentoo has over 24 thousand ebuilds, where an ebuild is their equivalent of a port: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebuild http://packages.gentoo.org/categories/ is the page that lists the current number of ebuilds. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 15:10:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCA716A405 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A235A13C4E3 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.38] (a89-182-158-149.net-htp.de [89.182.158.149]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED89CA44529; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:10:14 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: jamesh@lanl.gov Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:10:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080221065846.GB98271@demeter.hydra> <1203605931.2479.49.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> In-Reply-To: <1203605931.2479.49.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802211610.29520.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:10:17 -0000 Am Donnerstag, 21. Februar 2008 15:58:51 schrieb James Harrison: > > > 8. Most extensive collection of third party software (over 18000 ) only > > > second to Debian. > > > > Looking back at it, I'm surprised I didn't mention that. > > Gentoo has over 24 thousand ebuilds, where an ebuild is their equivalent > of a port: Err, don't confuse ebuilds with packages. A package is a piece of software (which is the equivalent of a port), whereas an ebuild is an install script for a specific version of a package. Normally, there's more than one version of a package (more than one ebuild) available for a package, which makes the ebuild count higher than the FreeBSD ports count, but the package count lower (somewhere above 12000). This doesn't count slotted ebuilds: for example, Gentoo has just one gtk package, which contains several ebuilds for slot 12 which is gtk-1.2.x and several ebuilds for slot 20, which is gtk-2.x (different slots are treated as different packages by the system internally), whereas FreeBSD has a gtk12 and a gtk20 port, which installs the respective versions. So, basically whatever numbers you take, they can't be compared directly anyway, but I guess that the number of ports is still higher than the Gentoo amortized package count would be. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 15:21:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF9516A403 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A53213C4DD for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (vpn-cl-166-141.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [141.3.166.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731BA405488; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:21:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BD9711.8070404@bsdforen.de> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:21:53 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <47BD1F14.9030903@bsdforen.de> <18365.36615.911448.294035@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18365.36615.911448.294035@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Kevin Monceaux , Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unicode Console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:21:56 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > Dominic Fandrey writes: >=20 >=20 >> It won't work for the console, but in a terminal emulator (I >> prefer rxvt-unicode, but uxterm should also work.) it works >> fine. My FreeBSD system uses UTF-8 and I never encountered >> problems because of this. >=20 > Have I missed the announcement, or is it still the case the > filesystem is not UTF compatible? >=20 >=20 > Robert Huff UFS works fine with any kind of 8-Bit Encoding. UTF-8 is not an exception= =2E=20 I'm using this since 5.3, when I started using FreeBSD. # touch Fran=C3=A7ais # touch =E6=97=A5=E6=9C=AC=E8=AA=9E # ls Fran=C3=A7ais =E6=97=A5=E6=9C=AC=E8=AA=9E # rm * # ls # From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 15:33:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6E916A403 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF00113C468 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F4965500 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:33:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:33:11 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <9922D43C5E8BF58214D7434E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: 7.0 RC2 usb problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:33:12 -0000 I just installed 7.0 RC2 on a brand new Dell - dual processor dual core Intel (so four processors), and I'm losing the keyboard and mouse after taking certain actions. For example, I started setting up X (Xorg --configure) and then launched it (X -config /root/xorg.conf-new), and when I get to the GUI the mouse and keyboard are gone. Sometimes I can restore functionality by unplugging the devices and then plugging them back in. This is happening in the console as well, not just in the GUI. I've fetched the latest sources using cvsup. Will rebuilding the kernel solve this problem? Is this a known issue? usbhidctl shows ums0, ums1, ukbd0 and ukbd1 to be busy. [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ums0 usbhidctl: /dev/ums0: Device busy [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ums1 usbhidctl: /dev/ums1: Device busy [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ukbd ukbd0 ukbd1 [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ukbd0 usbhidctl: /dev/ukbd0: Device busy [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ukbd1 usbhidctl: /dev/ukbd1: Device busy This is what I see after unplugging both devices and plugging them in to different usb receptacles. usbdevs addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel addr 2: product 0x2105, vendor 0x413c addr 3: product 0x4d15, vendor 0x0461 addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel addr 3: product 0x2105, vendor 0x413c addr 2: product 0x4d15, vendor 0x0461 addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel FreeBSD utd65257.utdallas.edu 7.0-RC2-p1 FreeBSD 7.0-RC2-p1 #0: Tue Feb 12 22:23:33 UTC 2008 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 grep usb /var/run/dmesg.boot usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 usb2: waiting for BIOS to give up control usb2: EHCI version 1.0 usb2: wrong number of companions (3 != 2) usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2: on ehci0 usb2: USB revision 2.0 uhub2: on usb2 usb3: on uhci2 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: on usb3 usb4: on uhci3 usb4: USB revision 1.0 uhub4: on usb4 usb5: on uhci4 usb5: USB revision 1.0 uhub5: on usb5 usb6: waiting for BIOS to give up control usb6: timed out waiting for BIOS usb6: EHCI version 1.0 usb6: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb3 usb4 usb5 usb6: on ehci1 usb6: USB revision 2.0 uhub6: on usb6 Any clues or help would be appreciated. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 15:36:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F07716A410 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F5113C442 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1LFVcLN061044; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:31:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1LFVce2061043; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:31:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:31:37 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Siraj Shaikh Message-ID: <20080221153137.GC60811@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <3b2ddd940801280627m6d747cd1g27682bcd9e50ceb7@mail.gmail.com> <200801290234.m0T2YtLn074403@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <3b2ddd940802210407j7b83059duabadeccaec53a26c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3b2ddd940802210407j7b83059duabadeccaec53a26c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP Aliasing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:36:04 -0000 On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 12:07:08PM +0000, Siraj Shaikh wrote: > On 29/01/2008, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > > 1) is there an upper limit to configuring a number of alias addresses? > > > > I have a machine with 200+ IP without any problem. > > > > > 2) if an interface is configured with an alias address, then what > > > address is shown on the traffic leaving this interface? So, for > > > example, if I were to ping this machine on its primary address, I > > > expect to get a response from the primary address of the interface. > > > What happens if I ping an alias address, would I get a response from > > > > By default exiting traffic is using the primary address (the one > > defined with no keyword alias in the ifconfig). I think there is a way > > to choose the exiting IP. > > > > When a paket is responding, it use the same IP that was used in the > > query (else any firewall would be confused in the way). > > > > > > > 3) In the above scenario, all traffic leaving the interface > > > (regardless of the source IP on it) will have the same MAC address > > > (the one of the interface) - is that right? > > > > > > Right except maybe some NIC that allow several MAC addresses? That > > could be used in hi availability? > > > > > > > 4) Does anyone know if there are there any other network > > > characteristics or behaviour by which we can distinguish a machine > > > having more than one IP address (primary plus alias) configued on one > > > of its interface? > > > > > > Once you cross a router, you don't see the MAC of the machine anymore, > > MAC is local to your LAN anyway. > > > > Olivier > > > > > > > > One last thing I wanted to know (sorry to email after a long delay), > in order for me to add aliases that I want to remain configured on the > machine at every boot, I can simply add, for exmaple, the following > lines to the rc.conf file? > > ifconfig_ed0_alias0="inet 127.0.0.251 netmask 0xffffffff" > ifconfig_ed0_alias1="inet 127.0.0.252 netmask 0xffffffff" > ifconfig_ed0_alias2="inet 127.0.0.253 netmask 0xffffffff" > Looks right. The main nasty thing is in the aliasnn, the nn must start at 0 and be sequential - like you have it here. But, you can't just take one out of the middle without moving the others up to fill in. > Just want to know, as I want to configure about 253 addresses as an > alias on a single machine (along with the primary address, this will > be 254 address, a whole C-class subnet) - and would like these entries > to hold when I boot. Also, is there any shortcut to adding a range of > net/host address or would I have to add a line for each address? Not that I know of. But, maybe someone has written something. ////jerry > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 15:41:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C978E16A406 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EBB13C45E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LFepeS039668; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:40:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080221094221.0253fe28@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:42:47 -0600 To: Forrest Aldrich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:41:17 -0000 At 08:34 AM 2/21/2008, Forrest Aldrich wrote: >I recently recomplied the apache20 port (updated) with no compile-time >changes. Since that time, I noticed it was hogging 98% of the CPU and >hanging. I adjusted the various Max/Min server levels and that seemed to >fix it - except at midnight when the logs are rotated and the server is >sent a HUP signal. When that happens, all the processes die except one >and it hangs at 90% CPU. I kill it off, restart it manually and it >behaves fine. > >Here's a recent output of "top" : > >PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND >94711 www 1 117 0 41036K 13852K RUN 0 1:43 98.69% httpd > >The only thing that has changed on the system is an upgrade from MySQL-4.1 >to MySQL-5.1, which I wouldn't expect httpd to be affected by, but I could >be wrong. To be sure, I recompiled it, PHP and any dependencies that PHP >has, but I'm still seeing the same result. > >I tried compiling MySQL-5.1 with and without pthreads and see the same CPU >consumption issue. > >I wonder if I've hit a bug or if I've possibly messed something up (as >careful as I've been anyway). > > > >Thanks, > >Forrest What is showing in the apache logs when this happens? -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 15:57:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32AB16A406 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E6213C457 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [192.168.3.245] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1LFvem4037878; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:57:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:56:59 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080221074609.GN79704@laa.zp.ua> In-Reply-To: <20080221074609.GN79704@laa.zp.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802211056.59969.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Lystopad Oleksandr Subject: Re: wi0 (4.11) <=> rum0 (7.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:57:41 -0000 On Thursday 21 February 2008 02:46:09 am Lystopad Oleksandr wrote: > Hi! > > I have two FreeBSD boxes. One with 4.11 and wi0 device, and another > with 7.0-PRE with rum0 device. I need to connect wi0 and rum0 via > adhoc mode. 7.0 cant find wi0 device with ifconfig rum0 scan. > > Please, help me to connect this two networks together. > > ifconfig rum0: > rum0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 ether 00:c0:a8:f4:53:18 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet DS/11Mbps mode 11b > status: no carrier > ssid MYNET channel 1 (2412 Mhz 11b) bssid 00:02:2d:30:2d:22 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpower 50 scanvalid 60 bgscan > bgscanintvl 300 bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi11b 7 roam:rate11b 1 > roaming MANUAL > > ifconfig wi0: > wi0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 10.xx.xx.10 netmask 0xfffffffc broadcast 10.xx.xx.11 > ether 00:02:2d:30:2d:22 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps > ) status: associated > ssid MYNET 1:RS > stationname my-name > channel 1 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 > wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 I'm pretty sure you only want one of the adapters in ad-hoc mode. The other one can just be in station mode. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 16:13:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B566116A409 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:13:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: from web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.176.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15A5913C46E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 85806 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Feb 2008 15:46:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.es; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Oz9FFWgApH5SXfJtUawU34laEzpNzfI5bDL3f/WcGmYBrV7hCE/IZBJEI6zW999vtR28PnkfpK71Qj/sLtDQoto27i4hUb1KtWD52MAVGf1weCslceM3yNWZgnjmTjDReqjewfRqjeH76e5/fL8VlKk8h2KpHQM+zRJ2W2JqGic=; X-YMail-OSG: _yaPWRAVM1mh5mP.Ys5oucm5pGXsx_iIst6XE8nj7v96HAUz9lxh3uNpzzJjBuECz99OU6Zf8L8bR7oNWwWKuMGHL38nQFgHGm_39cWQ3TvaiDnUAoSZfmThWUg- Received: from [200.55.168.195] by web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:46:46 CET Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:46:46 +0100 (CET) From: Efren Bravo To: freeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <170656.67148.qm@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Subject: where is the new kernel(GENERIC) file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:13:28 -0000 Hi there. I downloaded the sources of freebsd 6.3 via cvsup. Where the new kernel file is copied? I've checked into /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ and the GENERIC file has the old date. Thanks in advance. ______________________________________________ ¿Con Mascota por primera vez? Sé un mejor Amigo. Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 16:14:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A0B16A405 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from mxgf1.ezo.net (mxgf1.ezo.net [12.156.78.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9CF13C46E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from ezo.net (mbox.ezo.net [12.156.78.21]) by mxgf1.ezo.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1LG27HP016444 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:02:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) From: "Jim Flowers" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:04:47 -0500 Message-Id: <20080221155416.M53150@ezo.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 65.25.65.37 (jflowers@ezo.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-MXSentry-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MXSentry-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MXSentry-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.604, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 1.79, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MXSentry-MailScanner-From: jflowers@ezo.net X-Spam-Status: No Subject: ipfw pipe show X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jflowers@ezo.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:14:48 -0000 I'm struggling to understand pipes. Most of it I get or know how to find the answer but there is one thing that is still a puzzle. I have a pipe configured as: ipfw pipe 2 config bw 768Kbit/s queue 20Kbytes When I use `ipfw -s 4 pipe 2 show, one bucket is shown: 00002: 768.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 20 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp 0 tcp 12.###.##.77/80 88.###.##.175/2200 10565 8421549 0 0 103 I understand that there is only one bucket but how are the source and destination ip addresses and ports chosen to be displayed from all that are routed to the pipe? Do they have any significance? While I'm at it this pipe has a 768 Kbps bw limit and is currently running at less than 250 Kbps. Why are packets still being dropped at the rate of about 1%, fairly consistently? Thanks. -- Jim Flowers -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 16:57:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2EE16A404 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4D613C478 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LGrxKv002352; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:53:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1LGrtnt002349; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:53:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:53:55 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jim Flowers In-Reply-To: <20080221155416.M53150@ezo.net> Message-ID: <20080221173851.D2250@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080221155416.M53150@ezo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw pipe show X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:57:23 -0000 > answer but there is one thing that is still a puzzle. > > I have a pipe configured as: > > ipfw pipe 2 config bw 768Kbit/s queue 20Kbytes > > When I use `ipfw -s 4 pipe 2 show, one bucket is shown: > > 00002: 768.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 20 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail > mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 > BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp > 0 tcp 12.###.##.77/80 88.###.##.175/2200 10565 8421549 0 0 103 > > I understand that there is only one bucket but how are the source and > destination ip addresses and ports chosen to be displayed from all that are yes. use queues through this pipe for implementing smart traffic control (best of a kind i must say). > > While I'm at it this pipe has a 768 Kbps bw limit and is currently running at what kind of traffic is it? single or lots of tcp connections? looks like a single connection > less than 250 Kbps. Why are packets still being dropped at the rate of about > 1%, fairly consistently? turn off the pipe and check the traffic again. it looks like your pipe is setup correctly. are other rules ok? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 16:57:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CAF16A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:57:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A10513C455 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:57:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20080221165725.RYTW19547.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@corinth.polands.org> for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:57:25 +0000 Received: from omnihp.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LGvOxx093982 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:57:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Message-ID: <47BDAD75.50801@polands.org> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:57:25 -0600 From: Doug Poland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/5918/Thu Feb 21 09:33:07 2008 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: ionCube PHP Encoder / Loader on FreeBSD 6 / 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:57:26 -0000 Hello, I'm having problems getting ionCube's PHP loader working on either 6.3-RELEASE or 7.0-RC2 (both i386). I've followed the install instructions, edited php.ini, installed compat5x and compat6x libraries, but just cannot get the loader to work. Both boxes are running PHP 5.2.5. Have googled and read the ioncube forums. I must be missing something obvious. Thanks in advance... -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 17:07:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7421E16A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5B5D13C448 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 20345 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 17:07:12 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 21 Feb 2008 17:07:10 -0000 Message-ID: <47BDAFA8.50204@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:06:48 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Efren Bravo References: <170656.67148.qm@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <170656.67148.qm@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freeBSD Subject: Re: where is the new kernel(GENERIC) file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:07:15 -0000 Hi, if nothing has changed, the file stayed the same. You can make a simple test. Delete or rename it and start csup again. If it reappears, it has to be the old file. Erich Efren Bravo wrote: > Hi there. =20 > =20 > I downloaded the sources of freebsd 6.3 via > cvsup. =20 > =20 > Where the new kernel file is copied? I've checked > into /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ and the GENERIC file > has the old date. =20 > =20 > Thanks in advance. >=20 >=20 > =20 > ______________________________________________=20 > =BFCon Mascota por primera vez? S=E9 un mejor Amigo. Entra en Yahoo! Re= spuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg" >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 17:08:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399A416A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf09.insightbb.com (mxsf09.insightbb.com [74.128.0.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E940D13C459 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@insightbb.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,387,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="267877291" Received: from unknown (HELO asav02.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.124]) by mxsf09.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 21 Feb 2008 12:08:29 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAM8+vUfQLicL/2dsb2JhbAAIsBY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,387,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="206950894" Received: from 208-46-39-11.dia.static.qwest.net (HELO [10.7.44.150]) ([208.46.39.11]) by asavout02.manage.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 21 Feb 2008 12:08:27 -0500 From: Steven Friedrich To: Brent Jones Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:08:04 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200802161142.53044.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <47BC8E53.1010508@netscape.net> <31AE442CCBC1094ABC40CE85B0149F06523840@MAIL1.registry.otago.ac.nz> In-Reply-To: <31AE442CCBC1094ABC40CE85B0149F06523840@MAIL1.registry.otago.ac.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802211208.04692.freebsd@insightbb.com> Cc: Tore Lund , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shutdown anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:08:29 -0000 On Wednesday 20 February 2008 03:37:29 pm Brent Jones wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Tore Lund > > Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2008 9:32 a.m. > > To: Steven Friedrich; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Shutdown anomaly > > > > Steven Friedrich wrote: > > > iStyinncgi n(gm adxi s6k0s ,s evcnoonddess) rfeomra > > > > isnyisntge.m. .pr0o > > > > > cess 'syncer' to stop...0 0 done > > > All buffers synced. > > > Uptime: 8m9s > > > > I don't know if this is relevant. Anyway, I used to see this error on > > 7.0-RC1, at any rate when using xdm. I no longer see it on 7.0-RC2. > > I see it on my RC2 machine. It comes and goes on my machine, and isn't > always present on shutdown. Not running xdm, just a plain vanilla box > with no X. The previously suggested kernel config option PRINTF_BUFR_SIZE=128 appears to "work around" the issue on my machine, an HP zd8215us. I'm running 7.0-RC3 (no, really, that's what it sez), built Wed Feb 20. I could RELIABLY reproduce it with single-user mode, mergemaster -p, make installworld, mergemaster, halt, before I added the kernel option. I'm not using xdm. I do use kdm, but it's the FIRST thing I turn off before troubleshooting. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 17:20:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68A716A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david4731@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s8.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s8.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF49213C448 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david4731@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY137-W21 ([64.4.48.56]) by bay0-omc1-s8.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:08:32 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [66.229.167.199] From: David T To: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:08:31 -0500 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2008 17:08:32.0261 (UTC) FILETIME=[62E7BB50:01C874AC] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: amd64 kernel installed on i386 machine? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:20:32 -0000 I am worried that I installed the 64 bit version of FreeBSD with an amd ker= nel on an Intel i386 box. =20 =20 Is there something wrong when I see the following: =20 [root@web1 /usr/local]# uname -aFreeBSD web1.machine.net 6.2-RELEASE FreeBS= D 6.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Jan 6 22:37:33 CST 2008 root@web1:/usr/obj/usr/s= rc/sys/web1 amd64 =20 [root@web1 /usr/local]# grep -i cpu /var/run/dmesg.bootCPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R= ) CPU E5345 @ 2.33GHz (2333.43-MHz K8-class CPU)FreeBSD/SMP: Mul= tiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC= ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3cpu0: on ac= pi0acpi_throttle0: on cpu0cpu1: on acpi0ac= pi_throttle1: on cpu1cpu2: on acpi0acpi_th= rottle2: on cpu2cpu3: on acpi0acpi_throttl= e3: on cpu3SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!SMP: AP CPU #3 Lau= nched!SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! =20 =20 When I install new packages from ports, do I install the i386 versions of = these packages or the amd versions of these packages?Quite confused and wou= ld appreciate any concrete help, =20 David =20 _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 17:20:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A27816A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FED013C46B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from [192.168.1.29] (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3315C22; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:21:45 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <47BDB2EC.8060803@hdk5.net> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:20:44 -1000 From: NetOpsCenter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061211 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, LUAU , buug@weak.org, San Diego's BSD Users Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Did Microsoft give up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: noc@hdk5.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:20:45 -0000 Aloha, I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening its code for development of its operating system. Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way to go? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 17:31:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D77316A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from mxgf1.ezo.net (mxgf1.ezo.net [12.156.78.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB24013C45B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:31:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from ezo.net (mbox.ezo.net [12.156.78.21]) by mxgf1.ezo.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1LHVguG021453; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:31:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) From: "Jim Flowers" To: Wojciech Puchar Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:34:22 -0500 Message-Id: <20080221171951.M86258@ezo.net> In-Reply-To: <20080221173851.D2250@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080221155416.M53150@ezo.net> <20080221173851.D2250@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 65.25.65.37 (jflowers@ezo.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-MXSentry-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MXSentry-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MXSentry-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.567, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 1.75, BAYES_00 -2.60, TW_PF 0.08) X-MXSentry-MailScanner-From: jflowers@ezo.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw pipe show X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jflowers@ezo.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:31:27 -0000 On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:53:55 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote > > answer but there is one thing that is still a puzzle. > > > > I have a pipe configured as: > > > > ipfw pipe 2 config bw 768Kbit/s queue 20Kbytes > > > > When I use `ipfw -s 4 pipe 2 show, one bucket is shown: > > > > 00002: 768.000 Kbit/s 0 ms 20 KB 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail > > mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 > > BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp > > 0 tcp 12.###.##.77/80 88.###.##.175/2200 10565 8421549 0 0 103 > > > > I understand that there is only one bucket but how are the source and > > destination ip addresses and ports chosen to be displayed from all that are > > yes. use queues through this pipe for implementing smart traffic > control > (best of a kind i must say). I'll get to queues eventually. Right now I precede this pipe with a pipe that reports overall statistics for tcp/udp/other and one that develops statistics and applies 128kbps bw limits on a per source host basis. All pipes are sequential. > > > > > While I'm at it this pipe has a 768 Kbps bw limit and is currently running at > > what kind of traffic is it? single or lots of tcp connections? looks > like a single connection Traffic is multiple simultaneous connections (outbound http from 20 to 30 webservers). > > > less than 250 Kbps. Why are packets still being dropped at the rate of about > > 1%, fairly consistently? > > turn off the pipe and check the traffic again. it looks like your > pipe is setup correctly. Yes, when I do this with an 8 sec delay to reading, I sometimes catch a dropped packet. Calculated bw is ~200kbps. After some minutes it goes to the 1% level and stays there. > > are other rules ok? Yes, everything seems to be consistent and counts match closely. It's not so much a problem but that I am curious. And, I still don't understand the significance of the ip addresses/ports shown in the single bucket pipe? Thanks for the response. -- Jim Flowers -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 17:34:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C727B16A405 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0723413C4E5 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 8461 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 17:34:47 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 21 Feb 2008 17:34:47 -0000 Message-ID: <47BDB62D.5090503@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:34:37 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: noc@hdk5.net References: <47BDB2EC.8060803@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <47BDB2EC.8060803@hdk5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: buug@weak.org, San Diego's BSD Users Group , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, LUAU Subject: Re: Did Microsoft give up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:34:49 -0000 Hi, NetOpsCenter wrote: > Aloha, > > I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening > its code for development of its operating system. > Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way > to go? they use this just as another form of outsourcing. As long as they get the work done and still can charge for their programs, why not? Isn't Microsoft doing some kind of open source stuff since some time? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 17:49:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214D016A405 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE5F13C4E1 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JSFY6-0005oV-PE; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:49:39 +0000 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.184.33]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JSFY4-0004YL-Mm; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:49:34 +0000 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1LHB7r6003106; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:11:07 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m1LHB7dQ003105; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:11:07 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:11:06 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Kemian Dang Message-ID: <20080221171106.GA3062@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Kemian Dang , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080201111805.GA7580@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <20080219142254.GA77217@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <82f916c90802200421n2b22229alc9e40f64373c4b45@mail.gmail.com> <20080220154901.GA1674@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <82f916c90802200839j3580ca15i7ab59bedbd17f1d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <82f916c90802200839j3580ca15i7ab59bedbd17f1d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Score: -1.3 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port net/acx100 for usr5410 pcmcia wireless FBSD 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:49:41 -0000 > > > > On 19/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > Is anybody using usr5410? With what driver? And what version of FBSD? > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:21:22PM +0000, Kemian Dang wrote: > > > Try ndis, it works for my broadcom wireless adapter. > > > > On 20/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I added ndis to the kernel and built the kernel module using > > http://www.linuxant.com/usr11gv40q.zip driver. > > > > However, when I load the module: > > I get errors. From dmesg: > > > > cardbus1: Expecting link target, got 0xed > > cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=2000 > > cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=14, size=20000 > > ndis0: mem 0x88020000-0x88021fff,0x88000000-0x8801ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus1 > > ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 > > ndis0: init handler failed > > device_attach: ndis0 attach returned 6 > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 04:39:22PM +0000, Kemian Dang wrote: > Try add it to the /boot/loader.conf and restart to see whether it works. > My ndis0 can not get response from "ifconfig ndis0 scan", but I can > give it the ssid manually and make it work. thanks, it seems to be detected now, from dmesg: cardbus1: Expecting link target, got 0xfd cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=2000 cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=14, size=20000 ndis0: mem 0x88020000-0x88021fff, 0x88000000-0x8801ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus1 ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 ndis0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:49:a9:22:59 I still cannot connect to the wireless network, but this is probably another problem.. # ifconfig ndis0 up scan SSID BSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS UoB-Wireless 00:16:c7:71:9d:63 1 52M 18:0 100 E # # tail /etc/rc.conf ifconfig_ndis0="DHCP" # /etc/rc.d/netif start ndis0: no link .............. giving up ndis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 ether 00:c0:49:a9:22:59 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid "" channel 1 authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 bmiss 7 # I also tried # ifconfig ndis0 ssid UoB-Wireless but that didn't help. I'll try to update the driver version from 4.0q to 6.0b15, but the latter is not working fine yet. I think it is because I mixed different versions of inf, sys and firmware. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 17:53:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C5D16A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:53:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1204046398.2a2eed@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2026313C447 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1204046398.2a2eed@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LHK1RS001831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:20:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david+dated+1204046398.2a2eed@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.14.1/Submit) id m1LHK0Jr001799 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:20:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david+dated+1204046398.2a2eed@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1204046398.2a2eed@skytracker.ca using -f Received: by 3s1.com (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1000); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:19:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:19:57 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080221171955.GA213@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: David Banning X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/5918/Thu Feb 21 10:33:07 2008 on 3s1.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on 3s1.com Cc: Subject: command df just hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:53:39 -0000 I first noticed that I was not able to access a windows box mounted using mount_smbfs. While checking the drive status with the 'df' command I noticed that the command just hangs. I could probably resolve this by simply rebooting, but I don't like to use that solution if I don't have to. Any ideas to resolve this without a reboot? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 17:55:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D22C16A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremiah@freedomvoice.com) Received: from mailbox.freedomvoice.com (mailbox.freedomvoice.com [69.43.168.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D39113C501 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremiah@freedomvoice.com) Received: (qmail 57371 invoked by uid 89); 21 Feb 2008 17:29:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO OFFICE-SERVICES.FVOFFICE) (192.168.0.25) by 192.168.1.9 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 17:29:07 -0000 Received: from JEREMIAH ([192.168.5.5]) by OFFICE-SERVICES.FVOFFICE with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:29:07 -0800 From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: , "'San Diego's BSD Users Group'" , , "'LUAU'" , References: <47BDB2EC.8060803@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <47BDB2EC.8060803@hdk5.net> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:29:07 -0800 Message-ID: <004201c874af$432cafc0$c9860f40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: Ach0rjo4A7VXX+xjT2qRhX10qTXmzwAAOWlw Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2008 17:29:07.0515 (UTC) FILETIME=[432C88B0:01C874AF] Cc: Subject: RE: [SDBUG] Did Microsoft give up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:55:48 -0000 Super massive cross-post activate! -----Original Message----- From: sdbug-bounces@sdbug.org [mailto:sdbug-bounces@sdbug.org] On Behalf Of NetOpsCenter Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:21 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; LUAU; buug@weak.org; San Diego's BSD Users Group Subject: [SDBUG] Did Microsoft give up? Aloha, I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening its code for development of its operating system. Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way to go? ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol _______________________________________________ SDBUG mailing list SDBUG@sdbug.org http://lists.sdbug.org/mailman/listinfo/sdbug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 17:57:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9773716A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E7A13C4D5 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from dhcp-103-0-64.de-dhcp.harvard.edu (dce-gw.harvard.edu [140.247.198.51]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LHvdoC084090 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:57:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BDBB92.4070505@forrie.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:57:38 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Ragona References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20080221094221.0253fe28@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20080221094221.0253fe28@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5918/Thu Feb 21 10:33:07 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:57:58 -0000 Derek Ragona wrote: > At 08:34 AM 2/21/2008, Forrest Aldrich wrote: >> I recently recomplied the apache20 port (updated) with no >> compile-time changes. Since that time, I noticed it was hogging 98% >> of the CPU and hanging. I adjusted the various Max/Min server levels >> and that seemed to fix it - except at midnight when the logs are >> rotated and the server is sent a HUP signal. When that happens, all >> the processes die except one and it hangs at 90% CPU. I kill it off, >> restart it manually and it behaves fine. >> >> Here's a recent output of "top" : >> >> PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND >> 94711 www 1 117 0 41036K 13852K RUN 0 1:43 98.69% httpd >> >> The only thing that has changed on the system is an upgrade from >> MySQL-4.1 to MySQL-5.1, which I wouldn't expect httpd to be affected >> by, but I could be wrong. To be sure, I recompiled it, PHP and any >> dependencies that PHP has, but I'm still seeing the same result. >> >> I tried compiling MySQL-5.1 with and without pthreads and see the >> same CPU consumption issue. >> >> I wonder if I've hit a bug or if I've possibly messed something up >> (as careful as I've been anyway). >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Forrest > > What is showing in the apache logs when this happens? > > -Derek The only thing I see are multiple lines of these errors in error_log: [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63633 still did not exit, sending a SIGKILL [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63634 still did not exit, sending a SIGKILL [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63635 still did not exit, sending a SIGKILL [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63636 still did not exit, sending a SIGKILL [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63637 still did not exit, sending a SIGKILL [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63983 still did not exit, sending a SIGKILL [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 64048 still did not exit, sending a SIGKILL Which is correct, as the process is not exiting. For some reason it's hanging. The old binary did not do this. I could try another system update today (make/build/install world and recompile the apache executable and dependencies) to see if this solves the problem... Thanks, Forrest From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 18:11:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2719416A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4107C13C46A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LI8pjN002728; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:08:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1LI8fMC002725; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:08:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:08:41 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: NetOpsCenter In-Reply-To: <47BDB2EC.8060803@hdk5.net> Message-ID: <20080221190734.U2724@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47BDB2EC.8060803@hdk5.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: buug@weak.org, San Diego's BSD Users Group , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, LUAU Subject: Re: Did Microsoft give up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:11:19 -0000 > I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening its > code for development of its operating system. > Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way to > go? yes. look at linux as an example. this will make windows even slower, even more buggy - thats exactly what hardware producers like. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 18:13:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD6916A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+TK=d6d308e4@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4007E13C45D for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+TK=d6d308e4@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8821916467D for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC91223E3E8 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:55:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:55:40 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080221175540.6f6652a8@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: amd64 kernel installed on i386 machine? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:13:44 -0000 On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:08:31 -0500 David T wrote: > > I am worried that I installed the 64 bit version of FreeBSD with an > amd kernel on an Intel i386 box. > Is there something wrong when I see the following: Intel produce CPUs that are compatible with amd64. If yours wasn't one of these you wouldn't have got this far. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 18:25:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982CE16A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from osolano@diveo.net.mx) Received: from mail.diveo.net.mx (mail.diveo.net.mx [200.57.36.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C75913C455 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from osolano@diveo.net.mx) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:06:34 -0600 Message-ID: <83108B46C1417345A476FC703A4C0D22FA5FD9@diveomxnt06> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Question urgent!!! Thread-index: Ach0tH5/0pq64AhDQpa3pq2ngMcOvg== From: "Odeth Solano" To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:25:57 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Omar Garcia Razo Subject: Question urgent!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:25:07 -0000 Hi Can you suggest us, what kind of servers are supported to run if Free = Free BSD 6.2? HP? Dell? ]IBM? Could you suggest a model of this servers and processors please? Thanks Odeth Ver=F3nica Solano P. Clientes Estrat=E9gicos Diveo Internet de M=E9xico Tel.: 5093-8058 Cel.: 04455-5506-3474 E-mail: osolano@diveo.net.mx=20 =20 ** Este mensaje contiene informaci=F3n privilegiada/confidencial. 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Las = opiniones, conclusiones y otra informaci=F3n en este mensaje que no se = relacione al negocio oficial de esta empresa se entender=E1 como no dado = ni endosado** =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 18:31:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F39A16A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF1913C459 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LISrFf002790; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:28:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1LISnB7002787; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:28:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:28:49 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: David T In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080221192800.E2761@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: amd64 kernel installed on i386 machine? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:31:30 -0000 > [root@web1 /usr/local]# uname -aFreeBSD web1.machine.net 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Sun Jan 6 22:37:33 CST 2008 root@web1:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/web1 amd64 you did all right. you installed 64-bit kernel on 64-bit capable machine. amd64 is just a standard for 64-bit extension of x86, not AMD processors. i run FreeBSD/amd64 on core2 duo for example From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 18:34:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8A116A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8270713C447 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so213685pyb.10 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:34:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=gIbLCZdddJtohQSwHprvUEc/ii19tjrmvUyUbRJPXQg=; b=gyMAibWePdLlDd3QboGq+jFeRJpo3lHM15hZCXDx21lGWnde+RmCqgVgMZZUUrUFkVx7/1pkZ04+Cxck+cljRiY/Zk+UV/njuEzORgUdtCpU+xT6DaHjqY9haGOk767zAR4TX1F5N/vTUpevQ2cysM4WfcdZrOuV+7+MogIR+4A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UZngnDejbaN0ESsotUpVlJzlVVZsztl4vZctAN1Vrh10HAjS/2bl3gXCy2HHHkKTS2Sur6pgt7/NczJO9qKET9jQiaFdaLj3oZnQ8VsucDASrauF4ZZ0EvjYDgtHYbOy1O/+u9/RoysUp1xhkQGzu49TbXNwOYY2uDoIugIflgg= Received: by 10.65.192.19 with SMTP id u19mr20060354qbp.81.1203618851362; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.209.16 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:34:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <82f916c90802211034i39bb477cx68233c018bfabff1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:34:11 +0000 From: "Kemian Dang" To: "Kemian Dang" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080221171106.GA3062@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080201111805.GA7580@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <20080219142254.GA77217@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <82f916c90802200421n2b22229alc9e40f64373c4b45@mail.gmail.com> <20080220154901.GA1674@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <82f916c90802200839j3580ca15i7ab59bedbd17f1d@mail.gmail.com> <20080221171106.GA3062@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: port net/acx100 for usr5410 pcmcia wireless FBSD 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:34:13 -0000 Is your wireless network a non-authentication one, if it is wpa, wep, you may want to try follow the handbook[1]. I am not using rc.conf to start my wireless, but I think give the ssid in rc.conf may help, because there may be more wireless network in your area if it is a non-authentication one. ifconfig_ath0="ssid your_ssid_here DHCP" After you give the ssid, what the ifconfig output? Does the status change to associate? If yes, you can try: #dhclient ndis0 to get the ip from DHCP. Kemian [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html On 21/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > On 19/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > > > Is anybody using usr5410? With what driver? And what version of FBSD? > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:21:22PM +0000, Kemian Dang wrote: > > > > Try ndis, it works for my broadcom wireless adapter. > > > > > > > On 20/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > I added ndis to the kernel and built the kernel module using > > > http://www.linuxant.com/usr11gv40q.zip driver. > > > > > > However, when I load the module: > > > > I get errors. From dmesg: > > > > > > cardbus1: Expecting link target, got 0xed > > > cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=2000 > > > cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=14, size=20000 > > > ndis0: mem 0x88020000-0x88021fff,0x88000000-0x8801ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus1 > > > ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 > > > ndis0: init handler failed > > > device_attach: ndis0 attach returned 6 > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 04:39:22PM +0000, Kemian Dang wrote: > > Try add it to the /boot/loader.conf and restart to see whether it works. > > My ndis0 can not get response from "ifconfig ndis0 scan", but I can > > give it the ssid manually and make it work. > > > thanks, it seems to be detected now, from dmesg: > > cardbus1: Expecting link target, got 0xfd > > cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=2000 > cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=14, size=20000 > ndis0: mem 0x88020000-0x88021fff, > 0x88000000-0x8801ffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus1 > ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 > > ndis0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:49:a9:22:59 > > I still cannot connect to the wireless network, but this > is probably another problem.. > > # ifconfig ndis0 up scan > SSID BSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS > UoB-Wireless 00:16:c7:71:9d:63 1 52M 18:0 100 E > # > > # tail /etc/rc.conf > ifconfig_ndis0="DHCP" > > # /etc/rc.d/netif start > ndis0: no link .............. giving up > ndis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > ether 00:c0:49:a9:22:59 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect > status: no carrier > ssid "" channel 1 > authmode OPEN privacy OFF txpowmax 100 bmiss 7 > # > > I also tried > > # ifconfig ndis0 ssid UoB-Wireless > > but that didn't help. > > I'll try to update the driver version from 4.0q to 6.0b15, but > the latter is not working fine yet. I think it is because I mixed > different versions of inf, sys and firmware. > > many thanks > anton > > > -- > > Anton Shterenlikht > Room 2.6, Queen's Building > Mech Eng Dept > Bristol University > University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK > Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 > Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 18:37:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F42E16A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6D513C455 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LIb6PG043353; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:37:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080221123805.0252b0b8@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:39:01 -0600 To: Forrest Aldrich From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <47BDBB92.4070505@forrie.com> References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20080221094221.0253fe28@mail.computinginnovations.com> <47BDBB92.4070505@forrie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:37:32 -0000 At 11:57 AM 2/21/2008, Forrest Aldrich wrote: >Derek Ragona wrote: >>At 08:34 AM 2/21/2008, Forrest Aldrich wrote: >>>I recently recomplied the apache20 port (updated) with no compile-time >>>changes. Since that time, I noticed it was hogging 98% of the CPU and >>>hanging. I adjusted the various Max/Min server levels and that seemed >>>to fix it - except at midnight when the logs are rotated and the server >>>is sent a HUP signal. When that happens, all the processes die except >>>one and it hangs at 90% CPU. I kill it off, restart it manually and it >>>behaves fine. >>> >>>Here's a recent output of "top" : >>> >>>PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND >>>94711 www 1 117 0 41036K 13852K RUN 0 1:43 98.69% httpd >>> >>>The only thing that has changed on the system is an upgrade from >>>MySQL-4.1 to MySQL-5.1, which I wouldn't expect httpd to be affected by, >>>but I could be wrong. To be sure, I recompiled it, PHP and any >>>dependencies that PHP has, but I'm still seeing the same result. >>> >>>I tried compiling MySQL-5.1 with and without pthreads and see the same >>>CPU consumption issue. >>> >>>I wonder if I've hit a bug or if I've possibly messed something up (as >>>careful as I've been anyway). >>> >>> >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Forrest >> >>What is showing in the apache logs when this happens? >> >> -Derek > >The only thing I see are multiple lines of these errors in error_log: > >[Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63633 still did not exit, >sending a SIGKILL >[Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63634 still did not exit, >sending a SIGKILL >[Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63635 still did not exit, >sending a SIGKILL >[Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63636 still did not exit, >sending a SIGKILL >[Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63637 still did not exit, >sending a SIGKILL >[Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63983 still did not exit, >sending a SIGKILL >[Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 64048 still did not exit, >sending a SIGKILL > > >Which is correct, as the process is not exiting. For some reason it's >hanging. The old binary did not do this. > >I could try another system update today (make/build/install world and >recompile the apache executable and dependencies) to see if this solves >the problem... > > >Thanks, > >Forrest I would try to see if there's an update, otherwise you might need to post a bug report to apache. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 18:40:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0085B16A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C199713C44B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FE9EBC3B; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:39:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:39:58 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: "Odeth Solano" Message-Id: <20080221133958.24bc4146.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <83108B46C1417345A476FC703A4C0D22FA5FD9@diveomxnt06> References: <83108B46C1417345A476FC703A4C0D22FA5FD9@diveomxnt06> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Omar Garcia Razo , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hardware compatability. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:40:01 -0000 In response to "Odeth Solano" : > Hi > > Can you suggest us, what kind of servers are supported to run if Free Free BSD 6.2? > HP? Dell? ]IBM? http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.3R/hardware-i386.html > Could you suggest a model of this servers and processors please? We've had mostly good experiences with Dell's servers. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 18:43:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728F616A403 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from canito@dalan.us) Received: from netbits.us (ptr-89.fastconcepts.net [209.18.107.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2483E13C45E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from canito@dalan.us) Received: (qmail 22991 invoked by uid 65534); 21 Feb 2008 18:43:54 -0000 Received: from 64.122.68.138 ([64.122.68.138]) by mail.dalan.us (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:43:54 -0600 Message-ID: <20080221124354.wmfwk2xx4w088soo@mail.dalan.us> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:43:54 -0600 From: David Alanis To: Odeth Solano References: <83108B46C1417345A476FC703A4C0D22FA5FD9@diveomxnt06> In-Reply-To: <83108B46C1417345A476FC703A4C0D22FA5FD9@diveomxnt06> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Cc: Omar Garcia Razo , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Question urgent!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:43:55 -0000 Veronica: Tu pregunta viene siendo un poquitito muy general. Por la mayoria Dell =20 y HP son conocidos por ser estables. Claro que hay problemas que se =20 conocen pero por la mayoria Dell tienes mejor servicio ahorita =20 corremos freeBSD 7.0 amd64 en un Dell y FreeBSD 7.0 i686 en un Dell. Lo que yo recomiendo que de que compares los precios de Dell y HP en =20 mente con el tipo de RAM, processor, espacio de disco, pero lo mas =20 importante va ser el tipo de aplicacion que este server va servir. A bueno, si tu pregunta entonce FreeBSD 6.2 es el mas estable pero 7.0 =20 incluye mas opciones por esto tenemos que saber que aplicacion va a =20 servir to server. David Alanis Quoting Odeth Solano : > Hi > > Can you suggest us, what kind of servers are supported to run if =20 > Free Free BSD 6.2? > HP? Dell? ]IBM? > Could you suggest a model of this servers and processors please? > > Thanks > > > Odeth Ver=F3nica Solano P. > Clientes Estrat=E9gicos > Diveo Internet de M=E9xico > Tel.: 5093-8058 > Cel.: 04455-5506-3474 > E-mail: osolano@diveo.net.mx > > > ** Este mensaje contiene informaci=F3n privilegiada/confidencial. Si =20 > usted no es el destinatario indicado en este mensaje (o responsable =20 > para entregarlo a tal persona), usted no puede copiar, difundir o =20 > entregar este mensaje a cualquier otra persona, dado que esta =20 > prohibido y se puede considerar ilegal. En tal caso, usted debe =20 > destruir este mensaje y amablemente notifique al remitente por =20 > e-mail el error existente. Las opiniones, conclusiones y otra =20 > informaci=F3n en este mensaje que no se relacione al negocio oficial =20 > de esta empresa se entender=E1 como no dado ni endosado** > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:04:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451C616A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:04:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C2F13C459 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:04:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so2596169uge.37 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:04:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=GqtG1JHE6YZ0eazseZtwA9WCWC3Af3wUVCSc7Hx9CEk=; b=fFCv/2hEoG9GJdfUATMZaf+m7HvB5l0tHW5hXTGpusgnY1gU01UvP/UX1HHDWMp/LfkPcSxvyM/3LiNtjDy6+sB6iUohJCRmiK6kCu2VdVgB9tmt3PMd4spoYAwgC5Wi4k97ILx6UhvpeZHOXubstI6UjnqnETadRNohW8z92uI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=orHAc+IdDgSSyCMAH+vw8yKnO0RaoJ0JqhG2zFS7SM5Guyh7FUgttnP0wlzeY+TreNBPEhjZhMdb/1DFI3M/T5RRNd6Sc2WyGSqQZmzO+FP5FCXC7rz7nEYfdC4Cgfnk4texX4UmIsyvcHrwIxzQ7C5aq5LBg26dh1jcQAx/9IY= Received: by 10.142.158.17 with SMTP id g17mr7910534wfe.234.1203620688044; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:04:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.143.10 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:04:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90802211104n750028bai934d1e5e630a309d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:04:48 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 79fbc927018c9460 Subject: qemu coredumps on any network activity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:04:51 -0000 The only relevant info in dmesg is that "pid exitied on signal 11 (core dump)". It runs fine until I access the network (either with ftp or iexplore), then cores. Just built from source 2 days ago (qemu 0.9.0_3). System is a vanilla amd64 7.0-RC2. Ssytem network access is fine. Thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:10:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF1216A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: from web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.176.207]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 024FB13C46A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efrenba@yahoo.es) Received: (qmail 9270 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Feb 2008 19:10:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.es; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=xUoELM5vuYIIsEE4RnXDwakuCprCbAHTmeP30ueyAK9SeijqyO/IRy+jP5TxJwY+KBdi6tiwsSL8aBsKQGp42jbGvx24PK3dcp6XZqHxGxAF9L+VBzOztE6TNuMYJhWVbUHydeTzTZf7prdvfaj26ZpOgM5IACsrznzkgNLEXRI=; X-YMail-OSG: D79uspMVM1lugJxEt4Uqk_cyLtE8AEGrkkkL7e0aASEi5BQ8sHyaxybOnio8JAX5WXatLBaH5zDeUj3PUj.88ZT1jGhmDhB3vEiA6VPsBFrK8VdzLc7QvFSVQjU- Received: from [200.55.168.195] by web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:10:08 CET Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:10:08 +0100 (CET) From: Efren Bravo To: freeBSD In-Reply-To: <47BDAFA8.50204@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <425203.5443.qm@web25221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: where is the new kernel(GENERIC) file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:10:12 -0000 I did it and worked as you told me. Thanks... > Hi, > > if nothing has changed, the file stayed the > same. > > You can make a simple test. Delete or rename it > and start csup again. > > If it reappears, it has to be the old file. > > Erich > > Efren Bravo wrote: > > Hi there. > > > > I downloaded the sources of freebsd 6.3 via > > cvsup. > > > > Where the new kernel file is copied? I've > checked > > into /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ and the GENERIC > file > > has the old date. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > ¿Con Mascota por primera vez? Sé un mejor > Amigo. Entra en Yahoo! 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Respuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:17:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9DD16A481 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (gw.tensor.gdynia.pl [213.192.64.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B0713C4EE for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LJAF7v002973; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:10:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1LJ9e7S002970; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:10:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:09:40 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <20080221133958.24bc4146.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Message-ID: <20080221200826.I2880@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <83108B46C1417345A476FC703A4C0D22FA5FD9@diveomxnt06> <20080221133958.24bc4146.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Odeth Solano , Omar Garcia Razo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware compatability. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:17:08 -0000 > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.3R/hardware-i386.html > >> Could you suggest a model of this servers and processors please? > > We've had mostly good experiences with Dell's servers. > while i have one IBM and 2 self-assembled servers recently, both works fine. just check the hardware (by chipset, embedded devices etc) if it's supported. most are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:17:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FB216A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5560013C50A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1LJHlxU001245 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:17:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:17:46 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> <47bd071c.l1X4zL211zZ5iyza%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <47bd071c.l1X4zL211zZ5iyza%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802211117.46912.kline@thought.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:17:57 -0000 On Wednesday 20 February 2008 21:07:40 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy > > for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; > > my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. > > A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at > Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network > port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr (so you don't > need to bother with CUPS). > > I am still on the original 1000-page starter cartridge. Replacements > are rated 3000 sheets; I haven't priced them. > > That's black only. The cheapest color-capable networked PostScript > printer I've found so far is the Xerox 6130N, for which I've been > quoted $375 including $380 worth of cartridges (C, M, Y, K @ $95 each) > -- Xerox seems to have some promotional pricing this month. IIRC the > color cartridges are rated 1900 sheets and the black 2500. This one > is also supposed to handle lpr natively. While I haven't got one (yet), > I figure it is almost guaranteed to be good -- Xerox do not make junk. Great; another printer heard about. SO far the Brother at <= $200 with 7000 pages at a $30 cartridge sounds better. I've done mostly the "academic", plain b&w over the years. Hm, well, then I have had some papers returned with feedback marked in blue in OOo. There is a fancy Brother color printer [on sale] at Costco for like $700. (!) After my heart was shocked back to life, I double-checked. I can't imagine what it does for 700 clams, but don't have room for it here anyway. Can you use any paper with the laser printers, or does it have to meet a certain spec? I heard a severe warning about using junk paper. Okay, so far, you guys have talked about the Brother and the Samsung. [[ By default Xerox is a ++quality brand. ]] I'm looking at the OpenPrinting site that Predrag mentioned. Anybody else?? As much of a computer geek as I've been, I *still* can't stand too much reading online. That's why I'll quit tearing my hair left out, get a hardcopy and go to some far corner and just enjoy ink+paper :-) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:18:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC93416A408 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from EXHUB015-4.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-4.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9408613C442 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.240.5; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:18:44 -0800 Message-ID: <47BDCE92.9020905@ridecharge.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:18:42 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Ridecharge User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:18:44 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy > for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; > my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. We have a HP3005n, HP2605dn, Xerox Phasermfp8650 all network printers that I print to with CUPS from freebsd flawlessly. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:20:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1362F16A413 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (gw.tensor.gdynia.pl [213.192.64.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C709F13C4E3 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LJGtg8003066; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:16:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1LJGGhO003061; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:16:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:16:16 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Steve Franks In-Reply-To: <539c60b90802211104n750028bai934d1e5e630a309d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080221201545.N2984@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <539c60b90802211104n750028bai934d1e5e630a309d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: qemu coredumps on any network activity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:20:49 -0000 > The only relevant info in dmesg is that "pid exitied on signal > 11 (core dump)". > > It runs fine until I access the network (either with ftp or iexplore), > then cores. Just built from source 2 days ago (qemu 0.9.0_3). System > is a vanilla amd64 7.0-RC2. Ssytem network access is fine. what type of qemu network do you use? the default one or something else? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:21:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B8716A473 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (gw.tensor.gdynia.pl [213.192.64.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5489B13C457 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LJDveK002994; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:13:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1LJDOdg002985; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:13:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:13:24 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: David Alanis In-Reply-To: <20080221124354.wmfwk2xx4w088soo@mail.dalan.us> Message-ID: <20080221201154.C2984@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <83108B46C1417345A476FC703A4C0D22FA5FD9@diveomxnt06> <20080221124354.wmfwk2xx4w088soo@mail.dalan.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Odeth Solano , Omar Garcia Razo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: OT - was Re: Question urgent!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:21:31 -0000 is that list multilanguage? i think it's main function is to support other users, that could read all posts and archives from that list, so it would be good to keep it english only and use native languages on private posts :) or am i wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:28:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948F616A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philipkthompson@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491A913C46A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philipkthompson@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so239214pyb.10 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:28:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=293YdC/sHPeqrKoWOXQvFAj/urTmjw+2iktq8ZBOTjE=; b=ku33t9YA9fzld/JiB7E/jDJ5KSngpVMxsH1EMAE6oLC6ohWoWEi3JIEBoFTQsCU+wAPJZrxG8doV0iIodjVZeRBqyb6y6FVS53JinZrmu1ptZxwKyZwmiSypdiVP7npw83eDuOpxm2+qXSBm2I+TCfguIBoYduad43nnRty9baE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=n0F6+ZJALPLI6rwQyhUrJ9B1fZwiOI6MU6dCPh+CMTmpy7sOJJajgZn3luEsW8jHRaIIPgZkpv77yH4w+n3Rtlj7ZiaiokZwhsD8rQw+xV49W4rWjMalbHrNsm4SQTnmO/Q3027p62H4CeZMKqkq1aXaUYry+N9Q09k+eMFn2cY= Received: by 10.35.47.10 with SMTP id z10mr11808488pyj.15.1203620542769; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:02:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.119.18 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:02:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:02:22 +0000 From: "carlos duarte" To: "San Diego's BSD Users Group" In-Reply-To: <004201c874af$432cafc0$c9860f40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47BDB2EC.8060803@hdk5.net> <004201c874af$432cafc0$c9860f40$@com> Cc: buug@weak.org, LUAU , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, noc@hdk5.net Subject: Re: [SDBUG] Did Microsoft give up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:28:17 -0000 no fucking way!! where's the link when you need it? On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > Super massive cross-post activate! > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sdbug-bounces@sdbug.org [mailto:sdbug-bounces@sdbug.org] On Behalf Of > NetOpsCenter > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:21 AM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; LUAU; buug@weak.org; San Diego's BSD > Users Group > Subject: [SDBUG] Did Microsoft give up? > > Aloha, > > I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening > its code for development of its operating system. > Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way > to go? > > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 > + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + noc@hdk5.net + > + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol > > > _______________________________________________ > SDBUG mailing list > SDBUG@sdbug.org > http://lists.sdbug.org/mailman/listinfo/sdbug > > _______________________________________________ > SDBUG mailing list > SDBUG@sdbug.org > http://lists.sdbug.org/mailman/listinfo/sdbug > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:31:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EFB16A416 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:31:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (gw.tensor.gdynia.pl [213.192.64.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F7A13C45E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LJB6vP002980 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:11:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1LJB6R5002977 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:11:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:11:06 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080221201027.N2880@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: 6.2+update and 6.3 difference X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:31:17 -0000 is there a difference between my 6.2 system updated to 6.2p11 by freebsd-update and 6.3? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:33:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BE516A408 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a-bb@gmx.net) Received: from pd2mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4467813C45A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a-bb@gmx.net) Received: from pd4mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr5so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.50]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JWL009MESY3HCHC@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:32:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml1so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.145]) by pd4mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JWL002T4SY2BT90@pd4mr5so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:32:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([24.108.85.74]) by l-daemon (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JWL0067BSXO8X60@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:32:17 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:32:37 -0800 From: Andrew Bradford In-reply-to: <47BD3A0B.2030806@locolomo.org> To: Erik Norgaard Message-id: <47BDD1D5.6060003@gmx.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <47BCC9C6.9050501@gmx.net> <47BD3A0B.2030806@locolomo.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting FS read-only for specific user (or root) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:33:05 -0000 Erik Norgaard escribió: > Andrew Bradford wrote: > >> I'm trying to set up a mounted filesystem that is read-write for >> root, but read-only for anyone else. It will be mounted as a backup >> directory, so files listed in that directory will be owned by current >> users on the system but can't be writeable, regardless of the file >> permissions. >> >> hd2 mounted rw in /root/backup-rw >> hd2 mounted ro in /backups >> >> Is this possible? > > Have you tried? ;) Yes, and it seems to almost work (but not quite). I can set the mount point to have 700 permissions, which excludes everyone from accessing the mounted filesystem but root. If I then mount it again using nullfs, it inherits the permissions of the original mountpoint, and is unreadable by everyone. > > I assume the reasoning for this is you want to preserve permissions > and attributes on your backup, so you can't solve this simply by > setting permissions appropriately. Yes, exactly. Users need to be able to see their own backups, and nobody else's. > > But then, do users need frequent access to their backup? Then you > could simply mount it on a mount point which only has root access. It would be preferable to not require root access to restore backups. Looks like nullfs isn't the answer. How hard would it be to write a nullfs-clone that allowed different permissions on the destination mount point than the source mount point? > > Cheers, Erik > Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:34:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD2116A407 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fgarcia@systeamusa.com) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [204.127.217.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973A813C4CC for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fgarcia@systeamusa.com) Received: from fide (adsl-074-246-021-235.sip.mia.bellsouth.net[74.246.21.235]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20080221192120H0400abh0de>; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:21:20 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [74.246.21.235] From: "Fidel Garcia" To: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:18:56 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c874be$9ae0c850$d0a258f0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ach0tR3sQjDuqX9SSpC0SY0IeARMxwACVPdA Content-Language: en-us Subject: FW: Did Microsoft give up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:34:43 -0000 Why do you think hardware producers will like that? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:09 PM To: NetOpsCenter Cc: buug@weak.org; San Diego's BSD Users Group; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; LUAU Subject: Re: Did Microsoft give up? > I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening its > code for development of its operating system. > Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way to > go? yes. look at linux as an example. this will make windows even slower, even more buggy - thats exactly what hardware producers like. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:35:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B8B16A494 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from canito@dalan.us) Received: from netbits.us (ptr-89.fastconcepts.net [209.18.107.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 797BF13C47E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from canito@dalan.us) Received: (qmail 18901 invoked by uid 65534); 21 Feb 2008 19:35:26 -0000 Received: from 64.122.68.138 ([64.122.68.138]) by mail.dalan.us (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:35:26 -0600 Message-ID: <20080221133526.4hzvptfu3kg0s0wk@mail.dalan.us> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:35:26 -0600 From: David Alanis To: Wojciech Puchar References: <83108B46C1417345A476FC703A4C0D22FA5FD9@diveomxnt06> <20080221124354.wmfwk2xx4w088soo@mail.dalan.us> <20080221201154.C2984@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080221201154.C2984@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Cc: Odeth Solano , Omar Garcia Razo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT - was Re: Question urgent!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:35:28 -0000 Got it. Sorry I am not trying to offend anyone. I will no longer reply all. Thank you, David Alanis Quoting Wojciech Puchar : > is that list multilanguage? i think it's main function is to support > other users, that could read all posts and archives from that list, so > it would be good to keep it english only and use native languages on > private posts :) > > or am i wrong? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:38:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A3416A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:38:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CE613C4CE for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.126]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E53139822 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:38:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BDD337.4060002@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:38:31 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Which version of berkeley DB? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:38:33 -0000 Hi: So far I have managed to keep all on version 43 of Berkeley DB, I see there is now 4.4, 4.5 and 4.6. - Is there any way to find out which is the latest version all ports will build against? - Is there any reason to upgrade? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:40:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1D916A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@netgate.com) Received: from netgate.com (mail.netgate.com [64.62.194.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A429713C45A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jim@netgate.com) Received: from [192.168.3.199] (cpe-66-91-82-78.hawaii.res.rr.com [66.91.82.78]) by netgate.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8377280109; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:12:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <84B65469-37D3-43B0-9962-07956606900D@netgate.com> From: Jim Thompson To: noc@hdk5.net, LUAU In-Reply-To: <47BDB2EC.8060803@hdk5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:12:32 -1000 References: <47BDB2EC.8060803@hdk5.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: buug@weak.org, San Diego's BSD Users Group , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [LUAU] Did Microsoft give up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:40:36 -0000 On Feb 21, 2008, at 7:20 AM, NetOpsCenter wrote: > Aloha, > > I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is =20 > opening its code for development of its operating system. > Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best =20= > way to go? No. Its more "get the EU off our backs" and "control the message". here are the key, tangible actions Microsoft details in their =20 announcement: * Ensuring open connections to Microsoft=92s high-volume products, where = =20 high-volume means: Windows Vista (including the .NET Framework), Windows Server = 2008, =20 SQL Server 2008, Office 2007, Exchange Server 2007, and Office =20 SharePoint Server 2007, and future versions of all these products. Note that you'll need 'new software' to get the "open connections". * Documenting how Microsoft supports industry standards and extensions * Enhancing Office 2007 to provide greater flexibility of document =20 formats * Launching the Open Source Interoperability Initiative * Expanding industry outreach and dialogue. Looking deeper into the announcement, much of what Microsoft=92s doing =20= is providing a more accessible platform for third-party developers to =20= tap into their ecosystem of multi-billion dollar software franchises. =20= For example, the company is launching APIs for Word, Excel, and =20 Powerpoint, and publishing tens of thousands of pieces of =20 documentation to its MSDN site. They're playing the same game with a new mask. They'll license their patented protocols to all comers "at low, =20 reasonable rates". They have stated that they won't sue open source developers that make =20= products that connect to theirs. They have also stated that they won't sue open source developers or =20 non-commercial distributors of software that uses their protocols. =20= If you're RedHat, or a company that uses Debian or Ubuntu, you still =20 have to license their patents. They did not "vet' Open Source as a development process. They did =20 not vet Free Software in any way, shape or form. Don't believe anything you see on TV. Here is the actual PR from =20 MSFT: = Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:46:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5EB16A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2151B13C459 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so98256nfb.33 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:46:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Rd1I5cFddiWtVHUQiXU0FZxQW4LALyT6wkyIG/H11z0=; b=q/qa8Kbdr3dcL4zkoXbV0jSYOeSlRTXAVQY1GZ/OOn3tah5qfBCj8Q8BIiukXq3wbmAGXaBIPEgHWipT+sRd2+VtI/vnkdatIfHg2IREUpmPMUjZ1vp4h//i1hCDMiDslAxWZ0d277irzNOc/Gqxsu8zo5lL+0VWPqbN9M+eDQI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=lWkfk3rl9dUCZ4qn+PEgvE/FQYB4/OfDJ6ZzkzCtyhkXZbV86kYSs/295SCkOVQvCB7xshapO0c8CQoGMbpnls2ZXbgFaJ5rdcxFaxCu/NoD2+E5BhvSjFy5M3a6kgnAjnln3ZsNrr5U/qGnKuST/2hmHIzJVrg5njkFKpcqKrA= Received: by 10.142.79.15 with SMTP id c15mr7989288wfb.105.1203623169382; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.143.10 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:46:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90802211146o50990b6fw4de0490b18aecb60@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:46:09 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Wojciech Puchar" In-Reply-To: <20080221201545.N2984@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90802211104n750028bai934d1e5e630a309d@mail.gmail.com> <20080221201545.N2984@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8b51c1fb52e5c0ce Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: qemu coredumps on any network activity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:46:12 -0000 Sorry, forgot to mention that. Haven't tweaked the network at all. Just using the defaults. Steve On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > The only relevant info in dmesg is that "pid exitied on signal > > 11 (core dump)". > > > > It runs fine until I access the network (either with ftp or iexplore), > > then cores. Just built from source 2 days ago (qemu 0.9.0_3). System > > is a vanilla amd64 7.0-RC2. Ssytem network access is fine. > > what type of qemu network do you use? the default one or something else? > -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:48:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB3216A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74CE13C448 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADBB654F2 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:48:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:48:46 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <3E6E8DF90F5BC59E01E992E1@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <47BDD407.6080009@diamondbox.dk> References: <9922D43C5E8BF58214D7434E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47BDD407.6080009@diamondbox.dk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: 7.0 RC2 usb keyboard and mouse problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:48:47 -0000 --On Thursday, February 21, 2008 20:41:59 +0100 Nikolaj Thygesen wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: >> I just installed 7.0 RC2 on a brand new Dell - dual processor dual >> core Intel (so four processors), and I'm losing the keyboard and mouse >> after taking certain actions. For example, I started setting up X >> (Xorg --configure) and then launched it (X -config >> /root/xorg.conf-new), and when I get to the GUI the mouse and keyboard >> are gone. Sometimes I can restore functionality by unplugging the >> devices and then plugging them back in. This is happening in the >> console as well, not just in the GUI. >> >> I've fetched the latest sources using cvsup. Will rebuilding the >> kernel solve this problem? Is this a known issue? >> >> usbhidctl shows ums0, ums1, ukbd0 and ukbd1 to be busy. >> >> [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ums0 >> usbhidctl: /dev/ums0: Device busy >> [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ums1 >> usbhidctl: /dev/ums1: Device busy >> [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ukbd >> ukbd0 ukbd1 >> [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ukbd0 >> usbhidctl: /dev/ukbd0: Device busy >> [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ukbd1 >> usbhidctl: /dev/ukbd1: Device busy >> >> This is what I see after unplugging both devices and plugging them in >> to different usb receptacles. >> >> usbdevs >> addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel >> addr 2: product 0x2105, vendor 0x413c >> addr 3: product 0x4d15, vendor 0x0461 >> addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel >> addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel >> addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel >> addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel >> addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel >> addr 3: product 0x2105, vendor 0x413c >> addr 2: product 0x4d15, vendor 0x0461 >> addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel >> >> FreeBSD utd65257.utdallas.edu 7.0-RC2-p1 FreeBSD 7.0-RC2-p1 #0: Tue >> Feb 12 22:23:33 UTC 2008 >> root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >> >> grep usb /var/run/dmesg.boot >> usb0: on uhci0 >> usb0: USB revision 1.0 >> uhub0: on usb0 >> usb1: on uhci1 >> usb1: USB revision 1.0 >> uhub1: on usb1 >> usb2: waiting for BIOS to give up control >> usb2: EHCI version 1.0 >> usb2: wrong number of companions (3 != 2) >> usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 >> usb2: on ehci0 >> usb2: USB revision 2.0 >> uhub2: on usb2 >> usb3: on uhci2 >> usb3: USB revision 1.0 >> uhub3: on usb3 >> usb4: on uhci3 >> usb4: USB revision 1.0 >> uhub4: on usb4 >> usb5: on uhci4 >> usb5: USB revision 1.0 >> uhub5: on usb5 >> usb6: waiting for BIOS to give up control >> usb6: timed out waiting for BIOS >> usb6: EHCI version 1.0 >> usb6: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb3 usb4 usb5 >> usb6: on ehci1 >> usb6: USB revision 2.0 >> uhub6: on usb6 >> >> Any clues or help would be appreciated. >> > > Hi Paul > > I just spent about a week solving that very same issue. The thing is that in > order for the usb mouse and keyboard to work during the initial boot > sequence, ps/2 style devices are needed, so your bios is probably configured > for simulating ps/2 (legacy) devices on usb. Keep it that way! > As the kernel boots, usb devices are suddenly supported, but present ps/2 > devices (even the simulated legacy ones) will hide the usb devices from the > kernel, so in order to get access to these the following lines must be added > to "/boot/device.hints": > > hint.atkbd.0.disable="1" > hint.atkbdc.0.disable="1" > > > I understand that only one of them is needed, but I have no idea which one. > It supposedly differs from machine to machine. > The last crucial point (and the one I really fought with) is the fact that > not all usb ports are created equal! If the above doesn't work, try switching > usb ports. It seems some usb ports/hubs are preferred over others. On my > machine the two front ports work, but the six ports on the rear of the > machine don't :o( > At least it works now, and I no longer need to have two keyboards attached. > > br - N :o) > I found a post in stable describing the exact same issue. The OP "solved" it by connecting a hub to a port on the back of the machine and then connecting the keyboard and mouse to the hub. So, I plugged in one of my monitors and then connected the keyboard and mouse to the monitor, and they work fine. I joined the stable list so I can report this and possibly help troubleshoot it. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:52:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC6F16A40E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A935B13C461 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B562D1CC8B; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:52:36 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:52:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20080221094221.0253fe28@mail.computinginnovations.com> <47BDBB92.4070505@forrie.com> In-Reply-To: <47BDBB92.4070505@forrie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802212052.34336.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Forrest Aldrich , Derek Ragona Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:52:38 -0000 On Thursday 21 February 2008 18:57:38 Forrest Aldrich wrote: > >> Here's a recent output of "top" : > >> > >> PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND > >> 94711 www 1 117 0 41036K 13852K RUN 0 1:43 98.69% httpd > >> Is this memory rising? If the below suggestion doesn't narrow down the problem, could you look into ktrace(1) and see what it's doing all this time? You could also try to narrow down the problem, by looking at what request was served last by that child. Enable mod_info for that. > The only thing I see are multiple lines of these errors in error_log: > > [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63633 still did not > exit, sending a SIGKILL > [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63634 still did not > exit, sending a SIGKILL > [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63635 still did not > exit, sending a SIGKILL > [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63636 still did not > exit, sending a SIGKILL > [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63637 still did not > exit, sending a SIGKILL > [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63983 still did not > exit, sending a SIGKILL > [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 64048 still did not > exit, sending a SIGKILL > > > Which is correct, as the process is not exiting. For some reason it's > hanging. The old binary did not do this. > > I could try another system update today (make/build/install world and > recompile the apache executable and dependencies) to see if this solves > the problem... I doubt it would help. I've seen this lots of times when the php module exit code is hanging. At the same time, the php CLI binary should be crashing on exit. Re-order your modules, there's a thread about it in the archives. If it wasn't for that useless piece of crap ht-dig, I'd have a link for you. :p Anyway, to test if it's this problem, run php -v and see if you get coredump. If you don't have CLI available, you could try disabling php in apache and see if the problem persists. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:53:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF6116A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1204053840.0eaf2c@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (3s1.com [209.161.205.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB8013C47E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david+dated+1204053840.0eaf2c@skytracker.ca) Received: from 3s1.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LJOXUC038945 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:24:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david+dated+1204053840.0eaf2c@skytracker.ca) Received: (from david@localhost) by 3s1.com (8.13.8/8.14.1/Submit) id m1LJO88n038754 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:24:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david+dated+1204053840.0eaf2c@skytracker.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: 3s1.com: david set sender to david+dated+1204053840.0eaf2c@skytracker.ca using -f Received: by 3s1.com (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1000); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:24:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:23:59 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080221192357.GA37269@skytracker.ca> References: <20080221171955.GA213@skytracker.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080221171955.GA213@skytracker.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: David Banning X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/5918/Thu Feb 21 10:33:07 2008 on 3s1.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on 3s1.com Cc: Subject: Re: command df just hangs - answered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:53:32 -0000 As it turns out, my windows box was already mounted. Since my windows firewall was turned on - df was hanging probably because it was trying to read info on the windows drive mounted, but couldn't. Disabling the win firewall fixed the problem - now I have to open up a port in that firewall before re-enabling it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:57:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B48816A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:57:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb7:ef56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F9C13C4D3 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:57:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (vpn180155.student.utwente.nl [130.89.180.155]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1LJv8nt016232; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:57:12 +0100 Message-ID: <47BDD794.8010501@student.utwente.nl> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:57:08 +0000 From: "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Alanis References: <83108B46C1417345A476FC703A4C0D22FA5FD9@diveomxnt06> <20080221124354.wmfwk2xx4w088soo@mail.dalan.us> <20080221201154.C2984@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080221133526.4hzvptfu3kg0s0wk@mail.dalan.us> In-Reply-To: <20080221133526.4hzvptfu3kg0s0wk@mail.dalan.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT - was Re: Question urgent!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:57:27 -0000 David Alanis wrote: > Got it. Sorry I am not trying to offend anyone. I will no longer reply all. Thanks. By the way, I'm not sure what language that was, but becuase it seemd like Spanish or Portuguese, I'd like to point out that there's probably a FreeBSD mailing list in that language, see http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html Not all of those lists are equally active, but they might be a nice addition to this one. I'm on the Dutch list as well and although it's kind of dead now, it has been quite useful in the past. Alphons -- All right, that does it Bill [Donahue]. I'm pretty sure that killing Jesus is not very Christian. -- pope Benedict XVI, South Park episode #158 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 19:57:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965D216A407 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CEB13C46A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from dhcp-103-0-64.de-dhcp.harvard.edu (dce-gw.harvard.edu [140.247.198.51]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LJvX7b087405 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:57:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BDD7AC.5080701@forrie.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:57:32 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20080221094221.0253fe28@mail.computinginnovations.com> <47BDBB92.4070505@forrie.com> <200802212052.34336.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802212052.34336.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5918/Thu Feb 21 10:33:07 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derek Ragona Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:57:54 -0000 Mel wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2008 18:57:38 Forrest Aldrich wrote: > > >>>> Here's a recent output of "top" : >>>> >>>> PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND >>>> 94711 www 1 117 0 41036K 13852K RUN 0 1:43 98.69% httpd >>>> >>>> > > Is this memory rising? If the below suggestion doesn't narrow down the > problem, could you look into ktrace(1) and see what it's doing all this time? > You could also try to narrow down the problem, by looking at what request was > served last by that child. Enable mod_info for that. > > >> The only thing I see are multiple lines of these errors in error_log: >> >> [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63633 still did not >> exit, sending a SIGKILL >> [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63634 still did not >> exit, sending a SIGKILL >> [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63635 still did not >> exit, sending a SIGKILL >> [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63636 still did not >> exit, sending a SIGKILL >> [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63637 still did not >> exit, sending a SIGKILL >> [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 63983 still did not >> exit, sending a SIGKILL >> [Thu Feb 21 00:00:12 2008] [error] child process 64048 still did not >> exit, sending a SIGKILL >> >> >> Which is correct, as the process is not exiting. For some reason it's >> hanging. The old binary did not do this. >> >> I could try another system update today (make/build/install world and >> recompile the apache executable and dependencies) to see if this solves >> the problem... >> > > I doubt it would help. I've seen this lots of times when the php module exit > code is hanging. At the same time, the php CLI binary should be crashing on > exit. > Re-order your modules, there's a thread about it in the archives. If it wasn't > for that useless piece of crap ht-dig, I'd have a link for you. :p > > Anyway, to test if it's this problem, run php -v and see if you get coredump. > If you don't have CLI available, you could try disabling php in apache and > see if the problem persists. > THANK YOU. I think this is definitely a good lead to where the problem exists. I am including the output of "php -v" here. [root]# php -v PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/fileinfo.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/fileinfo.so" in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imagick.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imagick.so" in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/fileinfo.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/fileinfo.so" in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imagick.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imagick.so" in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'zip' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/wddx.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/wddx.so" in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/sqlite.so' - /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/sqlite.so: Undefined symbol "spl_ce_Countable" in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/dba.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/dba.so" in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/bcmath.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/bcmath.so" in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/shmop.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/shmop.so" in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/readline.so' - Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/readline.so" in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'gmp' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'bz2' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'calendar' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'ctype' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'curl' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'pcre' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'SimpleXML' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'dom' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'exif' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'ftp' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'gd' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'gettext' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'gmp' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'iconv' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'imap' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'mcrypt' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'mhash' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'ncurses' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'openssl' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'PDO' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'posix' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'session' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'soap' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'sysvmsg' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'sysvsem' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'sysvshm' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'tidy' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'tokenizer' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'xml' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'xmlreader' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'xmlrpc' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'xmlwriter' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'xsl' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'zip' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'zlib' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'mbstring' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: Module 'sockets' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 18 2008 19:47:06) Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies with eAccelerator v0.9.5.2, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by eAccelerator with Suhosin v0.9.18, Copyright (c) 2002-2006, by Hardened-PHP Project Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 20:00:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B1216A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent.jones@otago.ac.nz) Received: from mailhub2.otago.ac.nz (mailhub2.otago.ac.nz [139.80.64.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A6813C455 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent.jones@otago.ac.nz) Received: from its-ex-p05.registry.otago.ac.nz (its-ex-p05.registry.otago.ac.nz [10.4.15.134]) by mailhub2.otago.ac.nz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LK0Stf017601; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:00:29 +1300 Received: from its-ex-p04.registry.otago.ac.nz ([10.4.15.133]) by its-ex-p05.registry.otago.ac.nz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:00:29 +1300 Received: from MAIL1.registry.otago.ac.nz ([10.4.15.129]) by its-ex-p04.registry.otago.ac.nz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:00:28 +1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:00:27 +1300 Message-ID: <31AE442CCBC1094ABC40CE85B0149F06523858@MAIL1.registry.otago.ac.nz> In-Reply-To: <20080221104141.GA80437@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: GELI encryption and HDD critical temperature Thread-Index: Ach0dnO6mRV3St7hR7qv8HXPTJz7bQATSKgg References: <47BA962E.5060504@theconcept.ru> <20080221104141.GA80437@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> From: "Brent Jones" To: "cpghost" , "s.g." X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2008 20:00:28.0618 (UTC) FILETIME=[67EEE2A0:01C874C4] X-PMX-Version: 5.4.0.320885, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2008.2.21.114651 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __IMS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: GELI encryption and HDD critical temperature X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:00:39 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of cpghost > Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2008 11:42 p.m. > To: s.g. > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: GELI encryption and HDD critical temperature >=20 > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:41:18AM +0300, s.g. wrote: > > According to smartctl -a, the temperature of the encrypted=20 > drives is ~59C.=20 > > The temperature of the unencrypted drive is, however, =20 > ~41C, according to=20 > > the same smartctl -a. >=20 > I don't know. But I've noticed that when drives access GBDE-encrypted > partitions (I didn't try with GELI yet), they are much louder (head > seeking). It seems they seek more often on encrypted than=20 > non-encrypted > partitions. Perhaps caching is turned off at some point up the chain? > If that's the case, it is no wonder that encrypted partitions tend to > result in higher drive temps (and faster drive wear). It was explained by another poster, I don't remember when or by whom, that GBDE writes sectors to disk in a pseudorandom fashion to make cryptanalysis more difficult. This would explain the seeking/noise on a GBDE disk. A question I have which is related to all of this: Does GELI write sectors in this pseudorandom fashion as well? And, if so is there a way to turn this off so that things are written contiguously? This could be useful for those wishing to encrypt things for most "normal" threats, such as your teenage neighbour breaking into your house and stealing your bitchin computer, while minimising the performance hit of pseudorandom sector writes. Cheers, Brent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 20:01:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FF316A403 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) Received: from csmtp3.b-one.net (csmtp3.one.com [195.47.247.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E0B13C4D5 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) Received: from diamond.tele2.dk (83.73.227.166.ip.tele2adsl.dk [83.73.227.166]) by csmtp3.b-one.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D80100B217; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:42:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BDD407.6080009@diamondbox.dk> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:41:59 +0100 From: Nikolaj Thygesen Organization: diamondbox.dk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080216) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <9922D43C5E8BF58214D7434E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <9922D43C5E8BF58214D7434E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 7.0 RC2 usb keyboard and mouse problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:01:38 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > I just installed 7.0 RC2 on a brand new Dell - dual processor dual > core Intel (so four processors), and I'm losing the keyboard and mouse > after taking certain actions. For example, I started setting up X > (Xorg --configure) and then launched it (X -config > /root/xorg.conf-new), and when I get to the GUI the mouse and keyboard > are gone. Sometimes I can restore functionality by unplugging the > devices and then plugging them back in. This is happening in the > console as well, not just in the GUI. > > I've fetched the latest sources using cvsup. Will rebuilding the > kernel solve this problem? Is this a known issue? > > usbhidctl shows ums0, ums1, ukbd0 and ukbd1 to be busy. > > [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ums0 > usbhidctl: /dev/ums0: Device busy > [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ums1 > usbhidctl: /dev/ums1: Device busy > [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ukbd > ukbd0 ukbd1 > [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ukbd0 > usbhidctl: /dev/ukbd0: Device busy > [root@utd65257 ~]# usbhidctl -a -f /dev/ukbd1 > usbhidctl: /dev/ukbd1: Device busy > > This is what I see after unplugging both devices and plugging them in > to different usb receptacles. > > usbdevs > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > addr 2: product 0x2105, vendor 0x413c > addr 3: product 0x4d15, vendor 0x0461 > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel > addr 3: product 0x2105, vendor 0x413c > addr 2: product 0x4d15, vendor 0x0461 > addr 1: EHCI root hub, Intel > > FreeBSD utd65257.utdallas.edu 7.0-RC2-p1 FreeBSD 7.0-RC2-p1 #0: Tue > Feb 12 22:23:33 UTC 2008 > root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > grep usb /var/run/dmesg.boot > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: on usb0 > usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: on usb1 > usb2: waiting for BIOS to give up control > usb2: EHCI version 1.0 > usb2: wrong number of companions (3 != 2) > usb2: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 > usb2: on ehci0 > usb2: USB revision 2.0 > uhub2: on usb2 > usb3: on uhci2 > usb3: USB revision 1.0 > uhub3: on usb3 > usb4: on uhci3 > usb4: USB revision 1.0 > uhub4: on usb4 > usb5: on uhci4 > usb5: USB revision 1.0 > uhub5: on usb5 > usb6: waiting for BIOS to give up control > usb6: timed out waiting for BIOS > usb6: EHCI version 1.0 > usb6: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb3 usb4 usb5 > usb6: on ehci1 > usb6: USB revision 2.0 > uhub6: on usb6 > > Any clues or help would be appreciated. > Hi Paul I just spent about a week solving that very same issue. The thing is that in order for the usb mouse and keyboard to work during the initial boot sequence, ps/2 style devices are needed, so your bios is probably configured for simulating ps/2 (legacy) devices on usb. Keep it that way! As the kernel boots, usb devices are suddenly supported, but present ps/2 devices (even the simulated legacy ones) will hide the usb devices from the kernel, so in order to get access to these the following lines must be added to "/boot/device.hints": hint.atkbd.0.disable="1" hint.atkbdc.0.disable="1" I understand that only one of them is needed, but I have no idea which one. It supposedly differs from machine to machine. The last crucial point (and the one I really fought with) is the fact that not all usb ports are created equal! If the above doesn't work, try switching usb ports. It seems some usb ports/hubs are preferred over others. On my machine the two front ports work, but the six ports on the rear of the machine don't :o( At least it works now, and I no longer need to have two keyboards attached. br - N :o) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 20:02:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C973316A408 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F8913C448 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1CF1CC8B; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:02:07 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:02:05 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47BDD337.4060002@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <47BDD337.4060002@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802212102.05770.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Which version of berkeley DB? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:02:08 -0000 On Thursday 21 February 2008 20:38:31 Erik Norgaard wrote: > So far I have managed to keep all on version 43 of Berkeley DB, I see > there is now 4.4, 4.5 and 4.6. > > - Is there any way to find out which is the latest version all ports > will build against? No, cause there's reasons there's so many db4* ports. Some interfaces changed along the way and depending software needs time to conform to it. However: You can set WITH_BDB_VER in /etc/make.conf and pick one. If you grep BDB /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.databases.mk you can quickly see that a portmaintainer has more power then you. > - Is there any reason to upgrade? Other then diskspace and clutter, there is no reason to remove older versions as they are properly separated by the ports. But as said you can specify a default to be used when the port does not care which version 4 it needs. In Utopia this should slowly migrate out ancient versions. In the real world, there will be this one unmaintained app you really like that won't work with anything over 42 :p -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 20:03:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA38916A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6592113C44B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so202941fka.11 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:03:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition; bh=le9R8JtazC7KgvFCx4L0EkS9IWcL/cC/Fr0io1W6exs=; b=Q8mLNY5nnmj8t74fNe37Lg6L9bGZyBb9OdWDJoL+fcY8TpRxDQJPGM+xWYegUGciUOODgkS4RnpZ9aVsfg1HqQ1S/cJwmqC8XzBAVP8uKXDWWuwa/ERo+ANZhdHmENaKXOzlOZCJdkp7SqPpBSbD224meszMoBOOqFrNhQhXWWA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition; b=xRX0GI3fsNzXP/DoBK4IGKMxnetLzsNckoUQ4cQCKXlN6Jb7KFPorFQcOvYz0a6FDGjpbKd3YxDF8qYR85Rrqt5SLEspvwCv8BMA9TrQo8UH7I1PwGr5yDNEicX6VGrAgOXYaz4NYMIEYEyPx6oOIpZ2Rei5WnkjpWjvCveGMn8= Received: by 10.82.161.19 with SMTP id j19mr17702182bue.29.1203622606707; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from logik.internal.network ( [81.86.41.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b30sm686154ika.11.2008.02.21.11.36.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by logik.internal.network (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 83B1A5C29; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:38:13 +0000 From: xorquewasp@googlemail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080221193813.GA75203@logik.internal.network> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: binat problem with loopback jail addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:03:35 -0000 Hi. I'm trying to set up a jail running on a loopback IP connected to the outside world with pf and binat. My interfaces are configured like this: ifconfig lo1 inet 127.1.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 up ifconfig lo1 alias 127.1.0.2 netmask 0xff000000 ifconfig lo1 alias 127.1.0.3 netmask 0xff000000 ifconfig fxp0 inet 192.168.2.5 netmask 0xffffff00 up ifconfig fxp0 alias 192.168.2.9 netmask 0xffffff00 $ jls JID IP Address Hostname Path 5 127.1.0.3 wwwproxy /usr/jail/wwwproxy The idea is to have wwwproxy running on 127.1.0.3, with an externally visible IP of 192.168.2.9 using pf binat. Now, I have a pf ruleset like this: #----------------------------------------------------------------------# nic0 = "fxp0" lo0 = "lo0" lo1 = "lo1" dns = "192.168.3.10" me = "192.168.2.5" wwwproxy = "127.1.0.3" wwwproxy_e = "192.168.2.9" table { 192.168.2.0/24 } table { 192.168.3.0/24 } table { $me, $wwwproxy_e } #----------------------------------------------------------------------# binat on $nic0 from $wwwproxy to any -> $wwwproxy_e #----------------------------------------------------------------------# block in log all block out log all # allow loopback pass log quick on $lo0 from 127.0.0.1 to 127.0.0.1 modulate state # allow wwwproxy to connect out and allow some connections in pass out log quick proto udp from $wwwproxy_e to $dns port 53 keep state pass out log quick proto tcp from $wwwproxy_e to any modulate state pass in log quick proto tcp from to $wwwproxy_e port 8080 modulate state # allow me to connect out pass out log quick on $nic0 proto udp from $me to any keep state pass out log quick on $nic0 proto tcp from $me to any modulate state #----------------------------------------------------------------------# I have an HTTP proxy running inside the jail: $ netstat -f inet -na Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp4 0 0 127.1.0.3.8080 *.* LISTEN Inside the jail, I can connect to external sites: wwwproxy% nc -z -v www.google.com 80 Connection to www.google.com 80 port [tcp/http] succeeded! 000000 rule 8/0(match): pass out on fxp0: 192.168.2.9.62735 > 192.168.3.10.53: UDP, length 32 001253 rule 8/0(match): pass out on fxp0: 192.168.2.9.61723 > 192.168.3.10.53: UDP, length 32 000955 rule 9/0(match): pass out on fxp0: 192.168.2.9.64134 > 66.249.91.104.80: tcp 0 Outside the jail (on the host machine), however, I cannot connect to the HTTP proxy, despite pflog showing the connection being allowed: $ nc -z -v 192.168.2.9 8080 nc: connect to 192.168.2.9 port 8080 (tcp) failed: Connection refused 3. 680214 rule 9/0(match): pass out on lo0: 192.168.2.9.60606 > 192.168.2.9.8080: tcp 0 000060 rule 10/0(match): pass in on lo0: 192.168.2.9.60606 > 192.168.2.9.8080: tcp 0 It appears that binat isn't actually doing what I think it should (a connection to 192.168.2.9:8080 should connect to 127.1.0.3:8080). What am I doing wrong? XW (ps: please CC, I'm not subscribed) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 20:04:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B631A16A405 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDA013C4D5 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xorquewasp@googlemail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so252174wri.3 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:04:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=jZHSRe5Xj/9lLBujs0GvPKTM0xgu379O6YhKk5ZlGGg=; b=VPhO2tl3H0LkyFpFr9ji5GoH1CcG6+Qe65GbVrWWwzwaHQ7UDJq0jaHoWEnzdtfGzQZlaPgQb5V7FF1TVm++MHRs63vHGnKY8GhKgkojIe9KHQzCxu7m/WOkDjavPUIv9Y6dGk9AZATSo968HCylN0FwYg/aomIqDLF9iA1AMsQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=FPDdM8nhWICOYqjvjpa6CyrNcBmtmKpjD3gWgS/9yQBsebFv1hOou6o7O+Co4FmMQcoXneSEm2mxJOo3n61ustsoYaFrqGwwjZlFpZ1qERY4vPmI70x3IVr0iLQq4PhP0mFmBBmfnaCajcbFmTmUJwiQmPPa0r/klrbdr4LvuhI= Received: by 10.115.54.1 with SMTP id g1mr4955898wak.132.1203624276317; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.33.6 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:04:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5a08be760802211204j6c7268ack2a0d931951d3aa19@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:04:36 +0100 From: "cali clarke" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: binat problem with jail loopback addresses X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:04:38 -0000 Hi. I'm trying to set up a jail running on a loopback IP connected to the outside world with pf and binat. My interfaces are configured like this: ifconfig lo1 inet 127.1.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 up ifconfig lo1 alias 127.1.0.2 netmask 0xff000000 ifconfig lo1 alias 127.1.0.3 netmask 0xff000000 ifconfig fxp0 inet 192.168.2.5 netmask 0xffffff00 up ifconfig fxp0 alias 192.168.2.9 netmask 0xffffff00 $ jls JID IP Address Hostname Path 5 127.1.0.3 wwwproxy /usr/jail/wwwproxy The idea is to have wwwproxy running on 127.1.0.3, with an externally visible IP of 192.168.2.9 using pf binat. Now, I have a pf ruleset like this: #----------------------------------------------------------------------# nic0 = "fxp0" lo0 = "lo0" lo1 = "lo1" dns = "192.168.3.10" me = "192.168.2.5" wwwproxy = "127.1.0.3" wwwproxy_e = "192.168.2.9" table { 192.168.2.0/24 } table { 192.168.3.0/24 } table { $me, $wwwproxy_e } #----------------------------------------------------------------------# binat on $nic0 from $wwwproxy to any -> $wwwproxy_e #----------------------------------------------------------------------# block in log all block out log all # allow loopback pass log quick on $lo0 from 127.0.0.1 to 127.0.0.1 modulate state # allow wwwproxy to connect out and allow some connections in pass out log quick proto udp from $wwwproxy_e to $dns port 53 keep state pass out log quick proto tcp from $wwwproxy_e to any modulate state pass in log quick proto tcp from to $wwwproxy_e port 8080 modulate state # allow me to connect out pass out log quick on $nic0 proto udp from $me to any keep state pass out log quick on $nic0 proto tcp from $me to any modulate state #----------------------------------------------------------------------# I have an HTTP proxy running inside the jail: $ netstat -f inet -na Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp4 0 0 127.1.0.3.8080 *.* LISTEN Inside the jail, I can connect to external sites: wwwproxy% nc -z -v www.google.com 80 Connection to www.google.com 80 port [tcp/http] succeeded! 000000 rule 8/0(match): pass out on fxp0: 192.168.2.9.62735 > 192.168.3.10.53: UDP, length 32 001253 rule 8/0(match): pass out on fxp0: 192.168.2.9.61723 > 192.168.3.10.53: UDP, length 32 000955 rule 9/0(match): pass out on fxp0: 192.168.2.9.64134 > 66.249.91.104.80: tcp 0 Outside the jail (on the host machine), however, I cannot connect to the HTTP proxy, despite pflog showing the connection being allowed: $ nc -z -v 192.168.2.9 8080 nc: connect to 192.168.2.9 port 8080 (tcp) failed: Connection refused 3. 680214 rule 9/0(match): pass out on lo0: 192.168.2.9.60606 > 192.168.2.9.8080: tcp 0 000060 rule 10/0(match): pass in on lo0: 192.168.2.9.60606 > 192.168.2.9.8080: tcp 0 It appears that binat isn't actually doing what I think it should (a connection to 192.168.2.9:8080 should connect to 127.1.0.3:8080). What am I doing wrong? XW (ps: please CC, I'm not subscribed) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 20:19:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2C416A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9CC13C46E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0CE1CC8B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:19:56 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:19:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802212052.34336.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BDD7AC.5080701@forrie.com> In-Reply-To: <47BDD7AC.5080701@forrie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802212119.53961.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:19:57 -0000 On Thursday 21 February 2008 20:57:32 Forrest Aldrich wrote: > Mel wrote: > > I doubt it would help. I've seen this lots of times when the php module > > exit code is hanging. At the same time, the php CLI binary should be > > crashing on exit. > > Re-order your modules, there's a thread about it in the archives. If it > > wasn't for that useless piece of crap ht-dig, I'd have a link for you. :p > > > > Anyway, to test if it's this problem, run php -v and see if you get > > coredump. If you don't have CLI available, you could try disabling php in > > apache and see if the problem persists. > > THANK YOU. I think this is definitely a good lead to where the problem > exists. I am including the output of "php -v" here. > > > [root]# php -v > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/fileinfo.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/fileinfo.so" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imagick.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imagick.so" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/fileinfo.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/fileinfo.so" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imagick.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imagick.so" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'zip' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/wddx.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/wddx.so" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/sqlite.so' - > /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/sqlite.so: Undefined symbol > "spl_ce_Countable" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/dba.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/dba.so" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/bcmath.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/bcmath.so" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/shmop.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/shmop.so" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/readline.so' - Cannot open > "/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/readline.so" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'gmp' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'bz2' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'calendar' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'ctype' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'curl' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'pcre' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'SimpleXML' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'dom' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'exif' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'ftp' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'gd' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'gettext' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'gmp' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'iconv' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'imap' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'mcrypt' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'mhash' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'ncurses' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'openssl' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'PDO' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'posix' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'session' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'soap' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'sysvmsg' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'sysvsem' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'sysvshm' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'tidy' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'tokenizer' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'xml' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'xmlreader' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'xmlrpc' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'xmlwriter' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'xsl' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'zip' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'zlib' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'mbstring' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 > PHP Warning: Module 'sockets' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 Your extensions.ini has duplicate and non-existing modules. Start here: mv /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp sort -u /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp |while read MOD; do if test -f /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/${MOD##extension=}; then echo $MOD fi done >/usr/local/etc/extensions.ini php -v -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 20:24:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F2C16A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:24:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net (pih-relay04.plus.net [212.159.14.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C196E13C4D1 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=kestrel.milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1JSHyR-0002D9-CK; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:24:55 +0000 Received: by kestrel.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JSHyN-0009mu-QY; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:24:52 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:24:50 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200802151103.22663.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200802151103.22663.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802212024.51723.jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on kestrel.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 945942cc57abc41fabc3499d8a0099fb Subject: Re: Buildworld failure with 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:24:55 -0000 On Friday 15 February 2008, Mike Clarke wrote: I recently posted about my problem with buildworld failing in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/ with the message: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../libi386/libi386.a(biosdisk.o) (.text+0x9ff): In function `bd_opendisk': undefined reference to `uuid_is_nil' I've since tried to update the src directory by re-running csup but still got the same errors but did get things working again by recovering /usr/src from an earlier backup and running csup to bring it up to date. I assume that something in the source tree had become corrupted but somehow wasn't being replaced by csup. This has made me start wondering about the best way to diagnose the problem if it should arise again. Is there any utility which can easily check the integrity of the src directory to identify the offending file(s)? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 20:31:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0A716A408 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A346813C457 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96291CC8B; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:31:18 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:31:15 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47BCC9C6.9050501@gmx.net> <47BD3A0B.2030806@locolomo.org> <47BDD1D5.6060003@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <47BDD1D5.6060003@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802212131.16581.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Andrew Bradford Subject: Re: Mounting FS read-only for specific user (or root) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:31:20 -0000 On Thursday 21 February 2008 20:32:37 Andrew Bradford wrote: > Erik Norgaard escribi=F3: > > I assume the reasoning for this is you want to preserve permissions > > and attributes on your backup, so you can't solve this simply by > > setting permissions appropriately. > > Yes, exactly. Users need to be able to see their own backups, and > nobody else's. Isn't this what acl's are for? See setfacl(8). I haven't looked into it in= =20 great detail but seems to me that if you make a subdir owned by the user fo= r=20 each backup root for that user and set the acl to only be accessible by use= r,=20 it should work. =2D-=20 Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 20:32:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0D416A408 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from qsmtp4.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A612413C45A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: (qmail 31704 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 12:31:42 -0800 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 31676, pid: 31679, t: 3.3570s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on qsmtp4.surewest.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7-deb X-Spam-CMAE-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=41jxIN_Am77-M86Uf5YA:9 a=TyV5tZj4aPfkMjJHwEIA:7 a=-3DAw8JMlplxvQvV5W_UVmSgYSIA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 Received: from unknown (HELO blacklamb.mykitchentable.net) (69.62.230.77) by qsmtp4 with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 12:31:38 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.9] (tagalong.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.9]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941D1164AFD; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:32:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47BDDFC2.20708@mykitchentable.net> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:32:02 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080221065846.GB98271@demeter.hydra> <1203605931.2479.49.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> <200802211610.29520.wundram@beenic.net> In-Reply-To: <200802211610.29520.wundram@beenic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jamesh@lanl.gov, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:32:08 -0000 Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 21. Februar 2008 15:58:51 schrieb James Harrison: > >>>> 8. Most extensive collection of third party software (over 18000 ) only >>>> second to Debian. >>>> >>> Looking back at it, I'm surprised I didn't mention that. >>> >> Gentoo has over 24 thousand ebuilds, where an ebuild is their equivalent >> of a port: >> > > Err, don't confuse ebuilds with packages. A package is a piece of software > (which is the equivalent of a port), whereas an ebuild is an install script > for a specific version of a package. Normally, there's more than one version > of a package (more than one ebuild) available for a package, which makes the > ebuild count higher than the FreeBSD ports count, but the package count lower > (somewhere above 12000). > > This doesn't count slotted ebuilds: for example, Gentoo has just one gtk > package, which contains several ebuilds for slot 12 which is gtk-1.2.x and > several ebuilds for slot 20, which is gtk-2.x (different slots are treated as > different packages by the system internally), whereas FreeBSD has a gtk12 and > a gtk20 port, which installs the respective versions. > > So, basically whatever numbers you take, they can't be compared directly > anyway, but I guess that the number of ports is still higher than the Gentoo > amortized package count would be. > And also be aware that many utilities included in the FreeBSD base system are ebuilds in the Gentoo world. tcpdump and top are just two examples I can think of off the top of my head. Cheers, Drew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 20:37:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6360216A404 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (gw.tensor.gdynia.pl [213.192.64.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DA413C46B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LKX7FN003706; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:33:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1LKWsGV003702; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:33:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:32:54 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Fidel Garcia In-Reply-To: <000001c874be$9ae0c850$d0a258f0$@com> Message-ID: <20080221213217.S3608@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <000001c874be$9ae0c850$d0a258f0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: Did Microsoft give up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:37:23 -0000 > Why do you think hardware producers will like that? slowest system, and frequent new versions even slower, requiring constant buying new hardware From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 21:03:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F59516A469 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donald.teed@gmail.com) Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D6313C465 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donald.teed@gmail.com) Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n40so112346gve.39 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:03:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=9/diAzCBgbGkWzIVA1ue/3YAJsVwvYskVlBHN+J0QqQ=; b=mfoJmQWJPtr4ufAo5zCV8f0Tb3ZtFIQ15lbhofH+ciYd8jCsEUVr98DSR6ZPfSDDGGG7uCIJrazmAvpUw11/jLT9VGbJRZyOheBi6eFOSQ7q5fBa9bGElm5zSz0vGePza1Y/8H5OxAn1ZWbdYgsZdhc1Rs7fm2jC3B4lyBTGtjE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SwCwlXBRVBF6zX6kSiuY1wTJWBxAhro3ufPStienPLydvxjYHpX1aeFLKAg3qARXeRsRI5yW+Vuv5Sc+C8P9FybmBlpha1/s1solpBcfvz/y7YKR7+oYuP2sA8sDVNFnaVDo+9e7iakpQNyknnFnGtsJcbhPfpHvJJA40Nif2mE= Received: by 10.143.33.19 with SMTP id l19mr6846715wfj.18.1203627820473; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.226.21 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:03:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:03:40 -0400 From: "D G Teed" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47BDDFC2.20708@mykitchentable.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080221065846.GB98271@demeter.hydra> <1203605931.2479.49.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> <200802211610.29520.wundram@beenic.net> <47BDDFC2.20708@mykitchentable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:03:44 -0000 As a Sysadmin I have 2 cents to add to this discussion. I think the whole chest beating, king of the hill, stand taking, mantra repeating is juvenile. There is no superior OS. As I do my job I don't start out figuring how I can slide my favorite distro into the equation. The OS is not at the center of decision making. What we want to get done is at the center. The beginning point is typically the application or service, and sometimes the application and service combined with the given hardware. Given these requirements, then we find an OS which supports them. As far as stability is concerned, I can't remember the last time something konked out on me because of a kernel bug. If something goes weird these days I'm most often to find hardware is the problem. We currently run over a dozen of each of Redhat Linux, Solaris, and FreeBSD, and two Debian servers. If someone has high uptimes they just don't believe in kernel security updates - it is nothing to be proud of. I'd like to see a resource which promotes intelligent decision making coming from the point of view of supporting the application or hardware, as this is essentially the angle I believe a sysadmin is coming from. For example, no where in this have I heard a peep about backup software. Anyone serious about IT is serious about backup. Yet there is no support for EMC (Legato) Networker in FreeBSD, and this is why our organization is migrating away from this FreeBSD. So for example, you can outline what backup options are available compared to Linux. --Donald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 21:10:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001F216A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C930F13C455 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSIgW-0004I1-Or for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:10:29 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSIgU-0004HZ-GI; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:10:26 -0700 Message-ID: <47BDE8BF.9060604@math.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:10:23 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: D G Teed References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080221065846.GB98271@demeter.hydra> <1203605931.2479.49.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> <200802211610.29520.wundram@beenic.net> <47BDDFC2.20708@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:10:30 -0000 D G Teed wrote: > As a Sysadmin I have 2 cents to add to this discussion. > > I think the whole chest beating, king of the hill, stand taking, > mantra repeating is juvenile. There is no superior OS. > As I do my job I don't start out figuring how I can slide my > favorite distro into the equation. The OS is not at the center of > decision making. What we want to get done is at the center. > > The beginning point is typically the application or service, > and sometimes the application and service combined with > the given hardware. Given these requirements, then we find > an OS which supports them. > > As far as stability is concerned, I can't remember the last time > something konked out on me because of a kernel bug. If something > goes weird these days I'm most often to find hardware is the > problem. We currently run over a dozen of each of Redhat Linux, > Solaris, and FreeBSD, and two Debian servers. > > If someone has high uptimes they just don't believe in kernel > security updates - it is nothing to be proud of. > > I'd like to see a resource which promotes intelligent decision > making coming from the point of view of supporting the application > or hardware, as this is essentially the angle I believe a sysadmin > is coming from. For example, no where in this have I heard a peep > about backup software. Anyone serious about IT is serious > about backup. Yet there is no support for EMC (Legato) > Networker in FreeBSD, and this is why our organization is > migrating away from this FreeBSD. So for example, you can > outline what backup options are available compared to Linux. > > DTrace is in current 8.0 at least in the restricted version:-) I do not think that the kind of the people who are getting information from his web-site need DTrace, ZFS, or ULE. But it is good to have it. And of course you are right. Even Windows is an excellent OS if you need to run CAD and keep your computer away from the Internet:-) > --Donald > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 21:23:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A2216A400 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a-bb@gmx.net) Received: from pd4mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A652413C46E for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a-bb@gmx.net) Received: from pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.177]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JWL008WUY117C80@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:22:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.148]) by pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JWL004HVY11GU70@pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:22:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([24.108.85.74]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JWL00JFPY0XU0P0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:22:13 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:22:34 -0800 From: Andrew Bradford In-reply-to: <200802212131.16581.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> To: Mel Message-id: <47BDEB9A.80207@gmx.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <47BCC9C6.9050501@gmx.net> <47BD3A0B.2030806@locolomo.org> <47BDD1D5.6060003@gmx.net> <200802212131.16581.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting FS read-only for specific user (or root) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:23:37 -0000 Mel escribió: > On Thursday 21 February 2008 20:32:37 Andrew Bradford wrote: > >> Erik Norgaard escribió: >> >>> I assume the reasoning for this is you want to preserve permissions >>> and attributes on your backup, so you can't solve this simply by >>> setting permissions appropriately. >>> >> Yes, exactly. Users need to be able to see their own backups, and >> nobody else's. >> > > Isn't this what acl's are for? See setfacl(8). I haven't looked into it in > great detail but seems to me that if you make a subdir owned by the user for > each backup root for that user and set the acl to only be accessible by user, > it should work. > I can't test it on my system at the moment, but wouldn't acls make the files writable for general users? The backup filesystem needs to be mounted read-write for root only, and read-only for general users, yet maintain ownership and permissions. Is it possible to use acls to revoke normal UNIX permissions on a directory hierarchy? I.e. use acls to limit users from writing to the read-write backup filesystem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 21:27:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364E616A406 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:27:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (gw.tensor.gdynia.pl [213.192.64.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79D613C4F7 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LLKlAQ003979; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:20:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1LLJG8I003972; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:20:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:19:16 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Predrag Punosevac In-Reply-To: <47BDE8BF.9060604@math.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <20080221221833.L3944@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080221065846.GB98271@demeter.hydra> <1203605931.2479.49.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> <200802211610.29520.wundram@beenic.net> <47BDDFC2.20708@mykitchentable.net> <47BDE8BF.9060604@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: D G Teed , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:27:57 -0000 > > And of course you are right. Even Windows is an excellent OS if you need to > run CAD and keep your computer away from > the Internet:-) probably because CAD software you use are windows only ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 21:59:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B6016A403 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AC113C45D for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6321CC8B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:59:48 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:59:45 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47BCC9C6.9050501@gmx.net> <200802212131.16581.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BDEB9A.80207@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <47BDEB9A.80207@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802212259.46294.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Subject: Re: Mounting FS read-only for specific user (or root) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:59:49 -0000 On Thursday 21 February 2008 22:22:34 Andrew Bradford wrote: > Mel escribi=F3: > > On Thursday 21 February 2008 20:32:37 Andrew Bradford wrote: > >> Erik Norgaard escribi=F3: > >>> I assume the reasoning for this is you want to preserve permissions > >>> and attributes on your backup, so you can't solve this simply by > >>> setting permissions appropriately. > >> > >> Yes, exactly. Users need to be able to see their own backups, and > >> nobody else's. > > > > Isn't this what acl's are for? See setfacl(8). I haven't looked into it > > in great detail but seems to me that if you make a subdir owned by the > > user for each backup root for that user and set the acl to only be > > accessible by user, it should work. > > I can't test it on my system at the moment, but wouldn't acls make the > files writable for general users? The backup filesystem needs to be > mounted read-write for root only, and read-only for general users, yet > maintain ownership and permissions. Yeah, you're right. It applies to files only. Sorry for the noise. However, you can still do it with normal permissions, if the users can't se= e=20 the real directory. So I guess the solution would be to either jail it and= =20 mount it ro with nullfs into the jail and root would use the host system, o= r=20 if it's on a different machine to nfs mount it ro and root would use the nf= s=20 host machine. The jail/nullfs trick I use with a template jail and standard ports that I= =20 don't want the jails to screw with. =2D-=20 Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 22:09:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EB916A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:09:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from april@presentationexhibits.com) Received: from e-zine-factory.com (smtp5.e-zine-factory.com [65.110.76.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6689A13C45B for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from april@presentationexhibits.com) Received: from ( [74.234.165.94]) by e-zine-factory.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:09:23 MST X-Abuse: This message has been transmitted by 4OfficeAutomation's RapidDelivery Server on behalf of a client. 4OfficeAutomation prohibits sending unsolicited email (UCE) through its servers and networks. 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X-Sender: peter.piggybox@virgin.net X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: POP3 recommendations... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:22:24 -0000 I've not run a POP3 server before, but now I'm getting tired of confusing myself pulling my email down from my ISP across my laptop, desktop, and home server. Could someone recommend a solution for me? The situation is that I have a home server (running NFS, Samba, FTP, Apache, Mysql), plus a desktop and laptop (which generally gets used just around the house). The desktop and laptop both run fetchmail to collect my email from my ISP - but obviously this means some of my email ends up on the laptop, and some on the desktop. I'm after something like using fetchmail on the server to collect the mail, then probably sort it with procmail before making it available to my home network. The aim is for the mail to remain on the home server - Ie. In one central location on my network. Any recommendations for a POP3 server that would fit into a home network and make this easy to understand for the newbie? Thanks for your help. Peter Harrison Peter, Deb, Jessica, & Alex Visit us online at www.4harrisons.blogspot.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 22:40:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA7A16A407 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjenkins@centurygaming.biz) Received: from cns1.transaria.net (cns1.transaria.net [IPv6:2001:1940:1:1::24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306AE13C4E7 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjenkins@centurygaming.biz) Received: from RyanPC ([69.51.117.66]) by cns1.transaria.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m1LMeb32005481; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:40:37 GMT From: "Ryan Jenkins" To: "'Jerry McAllister'" , "'Erich Dollansky'" References: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> <47BA275C.7030006@pacific.net.sg> <20080219005835.GA42481@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:42:52 -0700 Message-ID: <001501c874db$184e8cc0$39c8a8c0@cg.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Importance: Low Thread-Index: Achykx4NcgB6u+YXTtq0mgHI6J7ltQCR89Hg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <20080219005835.GA42481@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:40:40 -0000 Jerry, or Erich, I am wondering how I could Download the FreeBSD OS to a disk, so I could try and install it on the computers I am trying to get to work? Could you give me some pointers on the process? Ryan Jenkins P.O. Box 21138 P: 406 896-9900 F: 406 896-0045 C: 406 208-8193 Email: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz Confidentiality Statement: This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:59 PM To: Erich Dollansky Cc: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!! On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:48:28AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, HP, IBM, Lenovo, Toshiba plus all the PC built > around standard components will do. > > If you would be a bit more specific about price, speed and function of > the machine, we could help you better. Yes. Any servers from those vendors will work. Plus, there are a couple of companies that claim to produce systems expecially for running FreeBSD servers. Some are: http://www.freedomtc.com/ http://www.ixsystems.com/ http://www.ironsystems.com/index.asp They don't limit themselves to FreeBSD, but they claim support for it. ////jerry > > You might will have problems getting certain machines without > operating system. > > Erich > > Ryan Jenkins wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD > >Operating System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. > >Right now I am having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture that > >can make a system that uses FreeBSD. I currently have found a > >product from MPC or Micron/Gateway that creates systems with no > >Operating System, but my programmers are having a hard time with > >getting the software loaded on the system. Can you please help me > >find a supplier that builds Desktop or All-in-One computers that will operate FreeBSD. > > > > > > > > Ryan Jenkins > > > > P.O. Box 21138 > > P: 406 896-9900 > > F: 406 896-0045 > > C: 406 208-8193 > > Email: > >rjenkins@centurygaming.biz > > > > > > > >Confidentiality Statement: > >This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. > >Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the > >addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail > >message or any information contained in the message. If you have > >received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by > >replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >--- > > > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 22:46:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407F716A407 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:46:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD9213C4E3 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73706895000A; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:46:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bOBIrAUEL+BT; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id AC7F76862C1ED; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:46:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:46:08 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080221224608.GB22991@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000001c874be$9ae0c850$d0a258f0$@com> <20080221213217.S3608@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080221213217.S3608@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Subject: Re: FW: Did Microsoft give up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:46:10 -0000 On Thu, Feb 21, 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>Why do you think hardware producers will like that? > >slowest system, and frequent new versions even slower, requiring constant >buying new hardware Much the same reason IBM like[ds] JCL on main frames. Every time somebody messed it up, it required more computer time on their iron. The army of ``systems engineers'' required to feed the beasts also benefit from the unnecessary complexity. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 The cry has been that when war is declared, all opposition should therefore be hushed. A sentiment more unworthy of a free country could hardly be propagated. If the doctrine be admitted, rulers have only to declare war and they are screened at once from scrutiny ... In war, then, as in peace, assert the freedom of speech and of the press. Cling to this as the bulwark of all our rights and privileges. -- William Ellery Channing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 22:47:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C685E16A40D for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A922513C4D9 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY126-W44 ([65.55.131.79]) by bay0-omc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:47:04 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [204.249.77.1] From: Sean Cavanaugh To: , 'Jerry McAllister' , 'Erich Dollansky' Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:47:04 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001501c874db$184e8cc0$39c8a8c0@cg.local> References: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> <47BA275C.7030006@pacific.net.sg> <20080219005835.GA42481@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <001501c874db$184e8cc0$39c8a8c0@cg.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2008 22:47:04.0819 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE221C30:01C874DB] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:47:04 -0000 not to sound condescending, but just download the ISO ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ =20 the installer is very easy to walk through but if you need more help, the d= ocumentation is very nice. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/install.html =20 -Sean > From: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz> To: jerrymc@msu.edu; oceanare@pacific.n= et.sg> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:42:52 -0700> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd= .org> Subject: RE: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!> > Jerry, or Erich,>= > I am wondering how I could Download the FreeBSD OS to a disk, so I could= try> and install it on the computers I am trying to get to work? Could you= give> me some pointers on the process?> > > > Ryan Jenkins> > P.O. Box 211= 38> P: 406 896-9900> F: 406 896-0045> C: 406 208-8193> Email:> rjenkins@cen= turygaming.biz> > Confidentiality Statement:> This e-mail contains confiden= tial information which also may be privileged.> Unless you are the addresse= e (or authorized to receive for the addressee),> you may not copy, use, dis= close, or distribute the e-mail message or any> information contained in th= e message. If you have received this e-mail> message in error, please advis= e the sender by replying to this message or by> telephone and then promptly= delete it.> > -----Original Message-----> From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:j= errymc@msu.edu] > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:59 PM> To: Erich Dollan= sky> Cc: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject= : Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:48:= 28AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:> > > Hi,> > > > Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, HP,= IBM, Lenovo, Toshiba plus all the PC built > > around standard components = will do.> > > > If you would be a bit more specific about price, speed and = function of > > the machine, we could help you better.> > Yes. Any servers = from those vendors will work.> Plus, there are a couple of companies that c= laim to produce systems> expecially for running FreeBSD servers.> > Some ar= e: http://www.freedomtc.com/> http://www.ixsystems.com/> http://www.ironsys= tems.com/index.asp> > They don't limit themselves to FreeBSD, but they clai= m support for it.> > ////jerry> > > > > > You might will have problems gett= ing certain machines without > > operating system.> > > > Erich> > > > Ryan= Jenkins wrote:> > >Hello,> > > > > >I currently have a Computer System tha= t is based off the FreeBSD > > >Operating System and I am trying to find a = new supplier of hardware. > > >Right now I am having a hard time finding a = Computer Manufacture that > > >can make a system that uses FreeBSD. I curre= ntly have found a > > >product from MPC or Micron/Gateway that creates syst= ems with no > > >Operating System, but my programmers are having a hard tim= e with > > >getting the software loaded on the system. Can you please help = me > > >find a supplier that builds Desktop or All-in-One computers that wi= ll> operate FreeBSD.> > > > > > > > >> > > Ryan Jenkins> > > > > > P.O. Box= 21138> > > P: 406 896-9900> > > F: 406 896-0045> > > C: 406 208-8193> > > = Email:> > >rjenkins@centurygaming.biz> > >> > > > > >> > >Confidentiality S= tatement:> > >This e-mail contains confidential information which also may = be> privileged.> > >Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive = for the > > >addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the= e-mail > > >message or any information contained in the message. If you ha= ve > > >received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by = > > >replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it.>= > >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > >---------------------------------------------= ------------------------> > >---> > >> > >_________________________________= ______________> > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >http://l= ists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions> > >To unsubscribe, sen= d any mail to> > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"> > __________= _____________________________________> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mail= ing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions> >= To unsubscribe, send any mail to> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg"> > _______________________________________________> freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org mailing list> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-= questions> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@= freebsd.org" _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_0120= 08= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 23:01:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DC316A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5EC13C45D for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: (qmail 10583 invoked by uid 0); 21 Feb 2008 22:34:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.187?) (216.186.148.249) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 22:34:21 -0000 In-Reply-To: <200802211117.46912.kline@thought.org> References: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> <47bd071c.l1X4zL211zZ5iyza%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <200802211117.46912.kline@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:34:31 -0600 To: Gary Kline X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:01:04 -0000 On Feb 21, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > Great; another printer heard about. SO far the Brother at <= > $200 with 7000 > pages at a $30 cartridge sounds better. I've done mostly the > "academic", > plain b&w over the years. Hm, well, then I have had some papers > returned > with feedback marked in blue in OOo. The Genuine Brother TN-580 cartridge is about $75. A quick search finds "remanufactured" cartridges for $22, or do-it-yourself reload kits for under $20. I had to buy my first replacement as reloads were not yet available. I got just under 2,000 sheets on the 3,500 rated sheet TN-550 cartridge which came with the printer. Just over 4,000 on the 7,000 rated TN-580. Then nearly 7,000 using a $20 reload kit. Printing essentially the same thing, a membership flyer packed full of text on one side and a JPEG on the other. The $20 Meritline.com reload kit I used smells a lot different than the original Brother toner. Amazon.com seems to have the best reputable prices on the HL-5250DN at the moment. $190 new, or $155 refurbished, free shipping. > There is a fancy Brother color printer [on sale] at Costco for like > $700. (!) > After my heart was shocked back to life, I double-checked. I > can't imagine > what it does for 700 clams, but don't have room for it here anyway. If you need it, then you need it. But watch for operational costs. > Can you use any paper with the laser printers, or does it have to > meet a > certain spec? I heard a severe warning about using junk paper. Can use as nice of a paper as you want. Paper prices are rising. I have been buying $3.50 paper from Staples but this last time simply bought an entire case for whatever they demanded. Something between 20 and 24 pound is best. 20 is great for printing manuals, 24 is better if you are mailing a flyer that is folded and taped without an envelope. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 23:07:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7647D16A404 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B533C13C458 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [80.217.75.150] (c80-217-75-150.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.75.150]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m1LN77Pd073424; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:07:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <47BE0399.1030406@bah.homeip.net> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:04:57 +0100 From: B H User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD-6.2-STABLE; sv-SE) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: noc@hdk5.net References: <47BDB2EC.8060803@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <47BDB2EC.8060803@hdk5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: buug@weak.org, San Diego's BSD Users Group , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, LUAU Subject: Re: Did Microsoft give up? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:07:14 -0000 NetOpsCenter 48799160 %m: > Aloha, > > I just saw on TV news that Micro$oft has announced that it is opening > its code for development of its operating system. God. > Does this mean the Open Source Community has proved itself the best way > to go? Yes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 23:29:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAAB16A404 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.belair@rogers.com) Received: from smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D30FA13C448 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.belair@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 71329 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 23:03:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HQuoDVfkOEQPKG6Ih9vW/5I/hJV7cMwIM1wF/H4xaQP4wpZH2r/Lk8WRqM5Xl0XcehE4UubCsObW5F2huTWIiRkZEn4M2BTKDdpwmAXDyJcDA/1LYDeiD72osqU9iMyz8aTUQMbYjHY/bP9XeIaURTcvoIYDbXzL1ggJ47zXmEs= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.186?) (paul.belair@rogers.com@99.245.244.139 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 23:03:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: zRNO43IVM1kYgPVu_VZbU3N6iV11JLzTuK25xuBrjGVHu7kYkTh1W3Zy6IIV3qQxKw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: paulfromottawa To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:55:56 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802211755.56311.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: My printer isn't working with freebsd I have a hp laserjet1000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:29:54 -0000 My printer isn't working with freebsd I have a hp laserjet1000 "/usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed" So I have tried building the kernel without ulpt, and uploader the firmware but then cups would have local printers selection greyed out. using boot loader.conf to load ulpt corected that but still no test prints worked. I built again and again. I have FreeBSD 6.3 using a printer that needs firmware everytime its boot up. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 23:40:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606DB16A401 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwan@rail.eu.org) Received: from postfix2-g20.free.fr (postfix2-g20.free.fr [212.27.60.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E736313C465 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erwan@rail.eu.org) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by postfix2-g20.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B622398EC6 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:20:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE263EA0CF for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:21:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from depot.rail.eu.org (bievres.rail.eu.org [82.227.34.188]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FCC3EA0AC for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:21:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from depot.rail.eu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by depot.rail.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E6081BC3A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:21:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from ratagaz.depot.rail.eu.org (radio.depot.rail.eu.org [10.0.0.254]) by depot.rail.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E5BF281BC03 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:20:59 +0100 (CET) Received: by ratagaz.depot.rail.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 9A6DDA8C15D; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:20:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:20:59 +0100 From: Erwan David To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080221232059.GB305@rail.eu.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4769770500B2FB0C@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4769770500B2FB0C@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> X-Republicain: 3 =?iso-8859-1?Q?vent=F4s?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?e?= an CCXVI (Violier) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Subject: Re: POP3 recommendations... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:40:55 -0000 Le Thu 21/02/2008, Peter Harrison disait > I've not run a POP3 server before, but now I'm getting tired of confusing myself pulling my email down from my ISP across my laptop, desktop, and home server. Could someone recommend a solution for me? > > The situation is that I have a home server (running NFS, Samba, FTP, Apache, Mysql), plus a desktop and laptop (which generally gets used just around the house). The desktop and laptop both run fetchmail to collect my email from my ISP - but obviously this means some of my email ends up on the laptop, and some on the desktop. > > I'm after something like using fetchmail on the server to collect the mail, then probably sort it with procmail before making it available to my home network. The aim is for the mail to remain on the home server - Ie. In one central location on my network. > > Any recommendations for a POP3 server that would fit into a home network and make this easy to understand for the newbie? > > Thanks for your help. I'd rather use an IMAP server on the central server : imap is made for keeping the mailboxes centrally and consulting them remotely. Thus your mail stays on the servers, but you can treat it from your laptop as well. I have a similar setting, with courier imap, and procmail delivering to the underlying maildir. But when I find time I'll investigate maildrop as mail delivery agent with filtering capabilities. -- Erwan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 21 23:56:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0197316A402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nepbabucxspamfree@yahoo.ca) Received: from n7.bullet.mud.yahoo.com (n7.bullet.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.100.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A1B613C467 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nepbabucxspamfree@yahoo.ca) Received: from [68.142.194.244] by n7.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 23:43:01 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.69] by t2.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 23:43:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp421.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2008 23:43:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 780553.89607.bm@omp421.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 54623 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2008 23:43:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:X-pubkey-ID:X-pubkey-URL:User-Agent; b=x3PPNLcrPcWTbBtz3q8ob7eH42x74AYRXJCSQOHrxqSfHqiEUbFnEUbSgcBVS17sld9pI2ddjmjkTg+q/kNV1q0ji7eretep+8qCrEY1iLL+3CGOOnJ8WKtvuImuo2znt6mvcuY5SBW0O/X7pu5vjCWw+KS8Vqhq1uWKxNSnY0Q= ; Received: from unknown (HELO everest.volcano.com) (nepbabucxspamfree@203.192.95.61 with login) by smtp107.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2008 23:42:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: bU3q_AUVM1lJ18o0kG11GkNyRw.xPxG5ZCYvxEiKFvUZQH4qNzxp76BPOSRFhCmk3oZHJ7I5LtvYKrVKCHKPZgWqpQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: by everest.volcano.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:12:50 +1030 From: "nepbabu" Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:12:50 +1030 To: Predrag Punosevac Message-ID: <20080221234250.GA7073@everest.volcano.com> References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <786348.74605.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219161404.GB91805@demeter.hydra> <20080219163634.GA46198@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080219202749.GE92559@demeter.hydra> <20080221004656.GG97072@demeter.hydra> <47BCE0C1.80502@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47BCE0C1.80502@math.arizona.edu> X-pubkey-ID: 1024D/5DAE3BE5 X-pubkey-URL: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=nepbabu User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Chad Perrin , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:56:33 -0000 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thus spoke Predrag Punosevac on Wednesday, 20 February 2008 at 19:24:01 -07= 00: > Chad Perrin wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > Try to find on the internet couple of advocacy articles by Greg Lehey. = =20 > They are very well-written.=20 Greg's a legend! :P --=20 Cheers, Bikal KC (Please use: nepbababucxspamfree_at_yahoo DOT ca) Journal: http://nepbabu.livejournal.com || pubkey: see header "Rule 6: There is no Rule 6." - Rob Pike "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities= =2E" - Fran=C3=A7ois-Marie Arouet --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.fossnepal.org iD8DBQFHvgx6cd1dCF2uO+URAlStAJ0TL84m+N50775Ia6sjYs90QexRagCdGjXT CPAKc0mRMYRfV5StpMYia2w= =Vjjk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 00:09:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70B216A40D for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.ross@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CDE613C442 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.ross@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Feb 2008 00:09:06 -0000 Received: from e176190233.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO localhost) [85.176.190.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 22 Feb 2008 01:09:06 +0100 X-Authenticated: #11429267 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18wL3oOaUwwD/DrocQE3+cMaCwfhrKUHmBT5HT8GX xeeDjlyHGA/82l Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:09:05 +0100 To: paulfromottawa , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Michael Ross" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200802211755.56311.> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200802211755.56311.> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.26 (FreeBSD) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: My printer isn't working with freebsd I have a hp laserjet1000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:09:09 -0000 Am 21.02.2008, 23:55 Uhr, schrieb paulfromottawa : > My printer isn't working with freebsd I have a hp laserjet1000 > > "/usr/local/libexec/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed" > > So I have tried building the kernel without ulpt, and uploader the > firmware > but then cups would have local printers selection greyed out. > > using boot loader.conf > to load ulpt corected that but still no test prints worked. Loading ulpt via the loader has the same effect as compiling it into the kernel. Don't do that. You need your printer as a ugen device. You do have hplip installed? It is in the ports and comes with a ``hp-setup'' program. Use filter /usr/local/share/ppd/HP/HP-LaserJet_1010-hpijs.ppd.gz Maybe this helps: http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/INSTALL Look for the section "FREEBSD NOTES". It is about uploading firmware to a Laserjet 1018. You probably need to be root to upload. If your printer is detected by cups, you will still need to replace /usr/bin/lpr with /usr/local/bin/lpr for your applications to print. Check out ``hp-toolbox'', too. HTH Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 00:14:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6921516A400 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:14:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colin.brace@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED54713C455 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:14:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from colin.brace@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so287570fka.11 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:14:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=FXjh9Rpy66jOIxSyRxxzwELVk8LNUpIPY6/cbCBENYE=; b=hSjDqU6i32Dx6zsrC0Ofu38zNhrBr66NLKDjwxV0rxW0ONME5sumBpfuPvQRQ2ztuZu3r16UiqBlMLluct53jXwS89ZjjlCXO3cm9RvZvd2XTG/HST25Wj3f+qofkms5wbcytBsTHuiz0f3s2q1sqz1298F9xS3vI/10yZiexM8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=Q6u7ChMerXMeLkgpUnW5Z3VlcKNnAba4R+rqfIjul2iRkhCHqmUG9wvm4iMRM23TAOurbrvht9OzzqU2GQXiMSQXpwHRbJKcPqkekavBlO9snq6/qLc7UYBgrbMl08xitrWYX/HC6X99D93BU1Nol58seMWlCmaL7X1rqwR/Ltk= Received: by 10.82.113.6 with SMTP id l6mr19873255buc.22.1203639295558; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:14:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.108.2 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:14:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:14:55 +0100 From: "Colin Brace" Sender: colin.brace@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 87fa1b1543c271fa Subject: PF vs. ping6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:14:57 -0000 Hi all, I am trying to set up a IPv6 tunnel following the instructions in the handbook . aiccu starts ok: # sixxs-aiccu start Tunnel Information for T14342: POP Id : nlams05 IPv6 Local : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx2/64 IPv6 Remote : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx1/64 Tunnel Type : 6in4-heartbeat Adminstate : enabled Userstate : enabled I can ping6 localhost, I can ping6 the tunnel begin point (local), but I can't ping6 the (remote) end point. Firing up tcpdump, I see that the firewall is blocking the ping packets. I have these (provisional) rules at the top of the filter section in PF: pass quick on fxp0 inet6 # ext if pass quick on gif0 inet6 to no avail; PF is still blocking ping6. Am I missing something here? -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 00:36:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8A216A401 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (hal.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6812313C447 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: by hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id 4A2E53C042D; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:36:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:36:01 -0800 From: Christopher Cowart To: Colin Brace Message-ID: <20080222003601.GN88015@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Colin Brace , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yK/6QRnH3Zanb0EF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: RSSP-IT, UC Berkeley User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PF vs. ping6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:36:01 -0000 --yK/6QRnH3Zanb0EF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 01:14:55AM +0100, Colin Brace wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > I am trying to set up a IPv6 tunnel following the instructions in the > handbook . > aiccu starts ok: >=20 > # sixxs-aiccu start > Tunnel Information for T14342: > POP Id : nlams05 > IPv6 Local : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx2/64 > IPv6 Remote : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx1/64 > Tunnel Type : 6in4-heartbeat > Adminstate : enabled > Userstate : enabled >=20 > I can ping6 localhost, I can ping6 the tunnel begin point (local), but > I can't ping6 the (remote) end point. Firing up tcpdump, I see that > the firewall is blocking the ping packets. >=20 > I have these (provisional) rules at the top of the filter section in PF: >=20 > pass quick on fxp0 inet6 # ext if I don't use pf, but I'm guessing from the man page that you may need to try: pass quick on fxp0 proto 41 You might be able to substitue 41 with the symbolic name in /etc/protocols (ipv6). Note that you're trying to match the "protocol" field of an IPv4 address which, for the majority of internet traffic, is tcp, udp, or icmp; in this case its ipv6, because the contents of your IPv4 packets are the tunneled v6 packets. I think 'pass quick on fxp0 inet6' is checking against the type of the outer packet, which is actually an IPv4 packet. Good luck, --=20 Chris Cowart Network Technical Lead Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley --yK/6QRnH3Zanb0EF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBR74Y8SPHEDszU3zYAQK6/A/+MSxC5jJUBKg57HDp9sywz9hFSffm2tAX DTi8Byp7/PVIj95tIBYFtB96zJyNs2QMcs9lVDCzNUSltN29+K0W2dnOAys+fnZX GMoNZTsBPdF5fJ9ADBv6RQRV+mcHqomJl1pzSR+/i9tI17HL5Kf/8O729ToeyEI+ lCSRLAKB4F87Yk2m4BSHBtU2fJGrlOVLWZldmwnIGiqErFgvrKTQQWkv0Sf2tXYH kpcU9wugWYw0bUa8QQ12zzv/JoNSMpI2hOAlYuUn3cT7ie4tIblbdrCA43zR+1Wu uqqVGqESvvH7lfoiTYHQE1QfqrMkf5eFVJWy0FqnYx2hG1qv7swbhjX0jt7nSeIj rkLLlF47RQ0QDTBE+xrJB+BxWDKYrRuXiWnMWij51WGYlNS+C9WK+de6sYUN1n48 mdMPwoktDDh5h7eHKJiO8jm5Jw7atgeD4My09LIWNw5nJyX+Of05ZxDZNDhJc3gV mJlN0XsSgkadohrUcprBqgLEQ93lgH4wns3Ov4c3fSvjU+gErbl3Y07lpONTklWK Dz5V8SBeK9avuiR6POhUVWR87Rnau98mONOAvGu66d2xG5QKJ6HsjZxPM25hojpt ypmoivALg7TlhMFkUmxMydG4Y6q9Patl7Sn0DK+csb2WN4GK9+Nlafrn/D1LjluR SOhexGwv4Cs= =zPtS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yK/6QRnH3Zanb0EF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 00:55:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA8116A401 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB8313C442 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:55:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1M0os5m063341; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:50:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1M0osrq063340; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:50:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:50:54 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ryan Jenkins Message-ID: <20080222005053.GA63304@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> <47BA275C.7030006@pacific.net.sg> <20080219005835.GA42481@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <001501c874db$184e8cc0$39c8a8c0@cg.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001501c874db$184e8cc0$39c8a8c0@cg.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: 'Jerry McAllister' , 'Erich Dollansky' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:55:06 -0000 On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 03:42:52PM -0700, Ryan Jenkins wrote: > Jerry, or Erich, > > I am wondering how I could Download the FreeBSD OS to a disk, so I could try > and install it on the computers I am trying to get to work? Could you give > me some pointers on the process? This is well documented in the FreeBSD Handbook which you can see online by going to the FreeBSD web site. It you are going to install from CD, then you can download the ISO[s] using anonymous ftp from ftp.freebsd.org You will need to fish around (cd) in their directories a bit to find the ISOs, but what you want is disc1 for version 6.3. Download it to a machine with a CD burner. Then burn the image as it is. Don't try to convert it to an ISO. It is already an ISO. If you do not have network access, then you will need to download the first two CD ISOs and use them. Plug in the CD and boot it and the adventure begins. If you must boot from floppies, then download the two floppy images and write them to formatted floppies as per the handbook instructions. Boot them and go from there. You will need network access. ////jerry > > Ryan Jenkins > > P.O. Box 21138 > P: 406 896-9900 > F: 406 896-0045 > C: 406 208-8193 > Email: > rjenkins@centurygaming.biz > > Confidentiality Statement: > This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. > Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), > you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail message or any > information contained in the message. If you have received this e-mail > message in error, please advise the sender by replying to this message or by > telephone and then promptly delete it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:59 PM > To: Erich Dollansky > Cc: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!! > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:48:28AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, HP, IBM, Lenovo, Toshiba plus all the PC built > > around standard components will do. > > > > If you would be a bit more specific about price, speed and function of > > the machine, we could help you better. > > Yes. Any servers from those vendors will work. > Plus, there are a couple of companies that claim to produce systems > expecially for running FreeBSD servers. > > Some are: http://www.freedomtc.com/ > http://www.ixsystems.com/ > http://www.ironsystems.com/index.asp > > They don't limit themselves to FreeBSD, but they claim support for it. > > ////jerry > > > > > > You might will have problems getting certain machines without > > operating system. > > > > Erich > > > > Ryan Jenkins wrote: > > >Hello, > > > > > >I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD > > >Operating System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. > > >Right now I am having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture that > > >can make a system that uses FreeBSD. I currently have found a > > >product from MPC or Micron/Gateway that creates systems with no > > >Operating System, but my programmers are having a hard time with > > >getting the software loaded on the system. Can you please help me > > >find a supplier that builds Desktop or All-in-One computers that will > operate FreeBSD. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ryan Jenkins > > > > > > P.O. Box 21138 > > > P: 406 896-9900 > > > F: 406 896-0045 > > > C: 406 208-8193 > > > Email: > > >rjenkins@centurygaming.biz > > > > > > > > > > > >Confidentiality Statement: > > >This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be > privileged. > > >Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the > > >addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail > > >message or any information contained in the message. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:58:50 -0000 On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 12:06:34PM -0600, Odeth Solano wrote: > Hi > > Can you suggest us, what kind of servers are supported to run if Free > Free BSD 6.2? > HP? Dell? ]IBM? > Could you suggest a model of this servers and processors please? This was just discussed a couple of days ago on the FreeBSD Questions list. Go and look at the archives. FreeBSD has a website with vendors listed. http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/ Go there and click on the hardware link. Besides saying that, I would add that we have had good luck with Dell and HP servers running FreeBSD and a few others. Almost any normally configured machine should be good. ////jerry > > Thanks > > > Odeth Verónica Solano P. > Clientes Estratégicos > Diveo Internet de México > Tel.: 5093-8058 > Cel.: 04455-5506-3474 > E-mail: osolano@diveo.net.mx > > > ** Este mensaje contiene información privilegiada/confidencial. Si usted no es el destinatario indicado en este mensaje (o responsable para entregarlo a tal persona), usted no puede copiar, difundir o entregar este mensaje a cualquier otra persona, dado que esta prohibido y se puede considerar ilegal. En tal caso, usted debe destruir este mensaje y amablemente notifique al remitente por e-mail el error existente. 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Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:59:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.108.2 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:59:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:59:13 +0100 From: "Colin Brace" Sender: colin.brace@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080222003601.GN88015@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080222003601.GN88015@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2c79f2e498f56b83 Subject: Re: PF vs. ping6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:59:15 -0000 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:36 AM, Christopher Cowart > I don't use pf, but I'm guessing from the man page that you may need to > try: > pass quick on fxp0 proto 41 Ah, finally, this works: pass quick on $ext_if proto 41 pass quick on gif0 inet6 which PF "interprets" as: pass quick on fxp0 proto ipv6 all keep state pass quick on gif0 inet6 all flags S/SA keep state Thanks Christopher, I really appreciate it. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 01:49:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB84F16A403 for ; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:49:24 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this > > what is "desktop system" and "server system"? > > AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both.. > _______________________________________________ FreeBSD as a desktop compared to other OS's? I think there are technical, community and attitude differences which prevent FreeBSD from competing as a desktop. For some time I ran a small suite of FreeBSD desktops for general passing users (community center for alternative type people) and sometimes it was quite difficult to defend FreeBSD against requests for Linux. Some desktop functionality that is available for other OS's is simply not available to FreeBSD. Recent Debian, Windows and Mac all do hotplug USB for instance. The key point is that if you unplug without unmounting you don't get system crashes. I've read some of the threads that say it's not at all easy to write it into FreeBSD but it is an important difference and it shows up some community and attitude differences. Imagine if computers were cars. FreeBSD would be a super reliable car or maybe truck that gets built and maintained and used by people who like to spend most of their time hanging out in the workshop. You have to lift the bonnet and press a button to get it going but they see that as trivial. But the person who has to get the kids down to the supermarket and get the shopping done before hubby comes home for tea is really not going to understand that there is any comparison with the system where a key is within easy reach of the drivers seat. Nobody in the FreeBSD workshop can see the point of doing a quite intricate rewiring task because the truck works so fantastically well in other respects. Support for USB devices seems better in Linux too. The number of times people would come in and say why don't you use Linux and I would say FreeBSD is better and they would say well plug this USB ethernet adapter in and see if it works then, and it wouldn't. If you want to do video editing on FreeBSD you can't use the main free software application, Cinelerra. It's not ported to FreeBSD and from what I've read it won't be - something to do with ALSA drivers I believe. Also multimedia functionality generally is far more developed on Mac and windows. I would be really interested to know how the FreeBSD kernel compares to the Linux realtime kernel. Are there any recent benchmarks? Something like Kris Kennaway's fantastic mySQL benchmarks presentation? I'm sure none of these things are impossible, simply I get the impression they are not very interesting to the people who decide the direction of FreeBSD. There are other differences which I think come down to the overall size of the development community. I'm sure FreeBSD has all the components to allow a nice icon and directory window appear automagically on the desktop when you plug your removeable drive or camera in. I guess there must be some sort of similarity between the number of people doing Debian development and the number of people doing FreeBSD development. The difference with Linux is that there are hundreds of other dev communities taking Debian or whatever as a starting point and configuring it for different out-of-the-box use. Hence ubuntu and all the others. There are comparatively very few desktop development projects that take FreeBSD as a starting point. Hence rolling your own X and desktop setup in FreeBSD let alone automounter and a hundred other things. This is not meant to be an anti-FreeBSD rant, I love FreeBSD, it has some sort of quality and ease of use which I find hard to define, which is different to the 'ease of use' of windows or ubuntu (see I can't even give them capital letters) and which I wouldn't swap for anything. But I do think there is also some refusal or maybe just lack of resource to engage with a completely different view of what computers are for that the vast majority of the computer population has, an attitude exemplified by the comment that started me off on this rant. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 02:08:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AE816A401 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8A413C447 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so175194rvb.43 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:08:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=BveKtERdLQ9r+cdjg4mF2EnNgy/pN0wxwzwQX9g0JQU=; b=aiDp0hNyrWlSRBeoHCoGrRtZ/OpeJjnszAoEfHtByaxs5JHkZyTe3wyhy3V+FMU39AZwy2QnDxzoU0VhoHi2+erCCXkGf3wny2hZk2u86sBcsPOBvyGQpUsDrBoJ9L8M8TzrcTHLoAKQ70qFYxmjYkOYo5ywCIFxCRuza04gsko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T+l4NeZd44Z4q2qvjSun0+7mPGkIUD5VbdsoiTU5bwOJ0Ew9/kmLkH16tr0V/w/G3MYiKz3nl/wp9qI/P0eZOLeg+7ouKSR20ILeKGaZtAKJnone/ngSTn5VpGUpnZfu6aV1Diqr77wkyLmFMLPnovnt1fmo86diw7wtEbjm1VU= Received: by 10.141.88.3 with SMTP id q3mr7273628rvl.94.1203646138924; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.70.2 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:08:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <64c038660802211808r42475b16p1e68fc11bbf21500@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:08:58 -0700 From: Modulok To: "Paul Belair" In-Reply-To: <884285.14864.qm@web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <884285.14864.qm@web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP LaserJet not uploading firmware permission denied ulpt0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:08:59 -0000 On 2/21/08, Paul Belair wrote: > I'm using 6.3 FreeBSD > > Is there a fix that works. > > I have a hp laserjet 1000 printer. You've got to be logged in as the 'root' user, (or a user who has write-access to /dev/ulpt0, which by default is only 'root'). 1. Ensure you are the root user. You can check this by executing the command: id 2. If you are the root user and it still does not work, what is the output of the command: ls -l /dev/ulpt0 3. What is the exact command you're executing to upload the firmware and what is the exact error it reports? -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 02:29:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3038016A408 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:29:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu (math051.cs.arizona.edu [150.135.82.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096AC13C455 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSNer-0008Ek-MF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:29:06 -0700 Received: from math050.cs.arizona.edu ([150.135.82.50] helo=squirrelmail.math.arizona.edu) by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSNds-0008EZ-FR; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:28:04 -0700 Received: from 150.135.84.71 (SquirrelMail authenticated user punosevac) by squirrelmail.math.arizona.edu with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:28:04 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <2072.150.135.84.71.1203647284.squirrel@squirrelmail.math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:28:04 -0700 (MST) From: punosevac@math.arizona.edu To: "Chris Whitehouse" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:29:07 -0000 > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this >> >> what is "desktop system" and "server system"? >> >> AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both.. >> _______________________________________________ > > > > FreeBSD as a desktop compared to other OS's? I think there are > technical, community and attitude differences which prevent FreeBSD from > competing as a desktop. There is at least very strong consensus in the OpenBSD community and much less in FreeBSD community that the systems are developed by developers for the developer and alike on the base of the technical merit not cheap tricks. I am as a non-developer just getting a free ride. FreeBSD is a free system and doesn't have customers to please. It is developed by the people in their spare time to the best possible for their needs. (They are not necessary the same as yours and mine) Those Desktop users that you want to attract would not benefit from FreeBSD nor FreeBSD community would benefit from them. > Support for USB devices seems better in Linux too. The number of times > people would come in and say why don't you use Linux and I would say > FreeBSD is better and they would say well plug this USB ethernet adapter > in and see if it works then, and it wouldn't. If you knew how to alter permissions and do auto-mount you would see too. > If you want to do video editing on FreeBSD you can't use the main free > software application, Cinelerra. It's not ported to FreeBSD and from > what I've read it won't be - something to do with ALSA drivers I > believe. Please, do not even go there. ALSA vs OSS story is one of the darkest chapters in the Linux development. Read this before we go any further http://4front-tech.com/hannublog/?p=5 > Also multimedia functionality generally is far more developed > on Mac and windows. yes. So what? OS X is life style operating system. My friends in Apple are making living by pleasing their customers. > I would be really interested to know how the FreeBSD > kernel compares to the Linux realtime kernel. Are there any recent > benchmarks? Something like Kris Kennaway's fantastic mySQL benchmarks > presentation? > What is your point? Your desktop computer is faster than mine? That is irrelevant for the discussion about FreeBSD on the desktop. By the way, I proudly say as mostly OpenBSD user that OpenBSD scales the worst out of all *nix operating systems. > I'm sure none of these things are impossible, simply I get the > impression they are not very interesting to the people who decide the > direction of FreeBSD. > > There are other differences which I think come down to the overall size > of the development community. I'm sure FreeBSD has all the components to > allow a nice icon and directory window appear automagically on the > desktop when you plug your removeable drive or camera in. It does on mine. You have to know how to configure the damn thing. >I guess there > must be some sort of similarity between the number of people doing > Debian development and the number of people doing FreeBSD development. > The difference with Linux is that there are hundreds of other dev > communities taking Debian or whatever as a starting point and > configuring it for different out-of-the-box use. Hence ubuntu and all > the others. Hence the PC-BSD, DekstopBSD, TrueBSD, RuFreeSBIE, MidnightBSD and all the others. There are in total over 40 distros based on FreeBSD. At least 10 of them that I know of have as a stated goal to be customized easy to use FreeBSD installation on the Desktop. >There are comparatively very few desktop development > projects that take FreeBSD as a starting point. With all due respect you are just ill informed. Look the above. Sorry to burst your bubble but PC-BSD is much easier to install and run than your Ubuntu. If PC-BSD/FreeBSD had a native Flash supports and if they succeed to automatic creation of PBI for all 18000 ports PC-BSD would smoke the Ubuntu as the number one Grand Ma Milly OS by a mile. Cheers, Predrag P.S. I am not trying to participate in a flame war or a troll so this is going to be my last message on this thread. >Hence rolling your own X > and desktop setup in FreeBSD let alone automounter and a hundred other > things. > > This is not meant to be an anti-FreeBSD rant, I love FreeBSD, it has > some sort of quality and ease of use which I find hard to define, which > is different to the 'ease of use' of windows or ubuntu (see I can't even > give them capital letters) and which I wouldn't swap for anything. But I > do think there is also some refusal or maybe just lack of resource > > > to engage with a completely different view of what computers are > for that the vast majority of the computer population has, an attitude > exemplified by the comment that started me off on this rant. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 02:36:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A4116A402 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5336113C442 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1M2YGds073219 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:34:17 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:34:09 +1000 Message-Id: <1203647649.4297.19.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.436, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.36, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:36:32 -0000 On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 01:48 +0000, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this > > > > what is "desktop system" and "server system"? > > > > AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both.. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > FreeBSD as a desktop compared to other OS's? I think there are > technical, community and attitude differences which prevent FreeBSD from > competing as a desktop. For some time I ran a small suite of FreeBSD > desktops for general passing users (community center for alternative > type people) and sometimes it was quite difficult to defend FreeBSD > against requests for Linux. > > Some desktop functionality that is available for other OS's is simply > not available to FreeBSD. Recent Debian, Windows and Mac all do hotplug > USB for instance. The key point is that if you unplug without unmounting > you don't get system crashes. I've read some of the threads that say > it's not at all easy to write it into FreeBSD but it is an important > difference and it shows up some community and attitude differences. > > Imagine if computers were cars. FreeBSD would be a super reliable car or > maybe truck that gets built and maintained and used by people who like > to spend most of their time hanging out in the workshop. You have to > lift the bonnet and press a button to get it going but they see that as > trivial. But the person who has to get the kids down to the supermarket > and get the shopping done before hubby comes home for tea is really not > going to understand that there is any comparison with the system where a > key is within easy reach of the drivers seat. > > Nobody in the FreeBSD workshop can see the point of doing a quite > intricate rewiring task because the truck works so fantastically well in > other respects. > > Support for USB devices seems better in Linux too. The number of times > people would come in and say why don't you use Linux and I would say > FreeBSD is better and they would say well plug this USB ethernet adapter > in and see if it works then, and it wouldn't. > > If you want to do video editing on FreeBSD you can't use the main free > software application, Cinelerra. It's not ported to FreeBSD and from > what I've read it won't be - something to do with ALSA drivers I > believe. Also multimedia functionality generally is far more developed > on Mac and windows. I would be really interested to know how the FreeBSD > kernel compares to the Linux realtime kernel. Are there any recent > benchmarks? Something like Kris Kennaway's fantastic mySQL benchmarks > presentation? > > I'm sure none of these things are impossible, simply I get the > impression they are not very interesting to the people who decide the > direction of FreeBSD. > > There are other differences which I think come down to the overall size > of the development community. I'm sure FreeBSD has all the components to > allow a nice icon and directory window appear automagically on the > desktop when you plug your removeable drive or camera in. I guess there > must be some sort of similarity between the number of people doing > Debian development and the number of people doing FreeBSD development. > The difference with Linux is that there are hundreds of other dev > communities taking Debian or whatever as a starting point and > configuring it for different out-of-the-box use. Hence ubuntu and all > the others. There are comparatively very few desktop development > projects that take FreeBSD as a starting point. Hence rolling your own X > and desktop setup in FreeBSD let alone automounter and a hundred other > things. > > This is not meant to be an anti-FreeBSD rant, I love FreeBSD, it has > some sort of quality and ease of use which I find hard to define, which > is different to the 'ease of use' of windows or ubuntu (see I can't even > give them capital letters) and which I wouldn't swap for anything. But I > do think there is also some refusal or maybe just lack of resource > > > to engage with a completely different view of what computers are > for that the vast majority of the computer population has, an attitude > exemplified by the comment that started me off on this rant. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I'd agree with nearly all that is said here- for my 2c. It neatly epitomizes what I attempted to present. When defining the differences to my clients as to windows, Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows, a tank for Linux, and Fort Knox for BSD systems... The reason for this is that I find BSD systems are hard to break, stable as hell, may never need to reboot if setup correctly and used right, and just do what they're told to do. Linux is secure- but not as much, will go for months without reboot, and does what its supposed to do most of the time. Windows you're lucky to get what you can out of it! :P From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 02:47:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC07316A401 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frzburn@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A758813C45A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frzburn@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so401105wri.3 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:47:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=jaHTGLFidY9MPBvHGuj/Lvuafm1LdrfnbcvDTaah1jk=; b=J2ciX5JFhMs6jC/4JddsIR7Q4mb2dlS7pXPrdaTbI7nZjZJo6TxM44wEknWYTOr/+oK4gGTj+hfXGJ/fHc5M0KURnU4wrn9fNTlhljz+7nh2nH/brOHOSyB7lZst3/9p0hC8SSIZdsnUEu4jIoD+P0vHQH6cnX7mF47B8VdzR/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=bCH1S56UlCT4MGXfkekhhz/SQpmcIopYX4lLEc95UXP/d+FSh3kGXf+17cXnD/HqmbEWYKUe9ZlBuUvkshHmKolJlsRWLxis8VxhXjYoFw94yJqjn1ZQWwH25qlIscRDHMEF7U8BZmzWTvGtkTLzvDWh+qigi0zigQ8VEVwn6q4= Received: by 10.114.61.1 with SMTP id j1mr7337614waa.62.1203648441891; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.134.18 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:47:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2942dae0802211847o480195dft9aff5c03707e6466@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:47:21 -0500 From: "Martin Boulianne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Clearchains wpi and apm/acpi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:47:24 -0000 Hi, I successfully installed wpi driver and it works great. I'm using acpi. But my screen doesn't go off when I close the lid, and I read that apm could do the trick. So I disabled acpi and enabled apm. Woohoo! The screen shutdowns as predicted. BUT, the wpi driver won't work anymore! I guess that it somehow depends on acpi. Do you guys have seen anything alike? Is it possible to make wpi work with apm? I'm running 7.0-current i386, on a Dell Inspiron 6400. Thanks!! Martin Boulianne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 03:25:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6670616A403 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C24013C45B for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so187172rvb.43 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:25:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=E5OFHETTLCn7NgWI8RnUzU7YYOSYo8Ctshx2kUTzwI0=; b=NPxE7OiMVxIDodxtydx1mYF/vRs20ZuV8sM+N6HI+NIxt/2pZ0q8omCTFzPxzCe0zh6MftCpjdQQR4+YsoZ3h08aSpvlC5IR5e7Kuc/S7ifKa5MqAhGmKnQk1vBS3dZjAmPH2BgpDCvTE4w1gLo6bVnpz0p1vzDQa6mCdGAfSZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TQ5Kf45Zj4Xo58c9MBibHX63wXzE8LHlLonZ5Xl5l04u5pyajYjZ44Ti/O6xaQo3pOiYQ79jOsbDZMm5PaTpLKFMBJXTEfGPEfZXI4QSBdHOArhjVdjfZtJodCe1/Osxjd8reHA8T6qmMQg2ELGWeLyuCXjxXkidAyuVACBib2w= Received: by 10.141.113.6 with SMTP id q6mr7271683rvm.249.1203650717828; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.185.19 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:25:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:25:17 -0800 From: patrick To: "FreeBSD Questions Mailing List" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <42b497160704021026w1be0c59dvf83467f89ae87214@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Multiple versions of PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:25:19 -0000 I've got a new problem... While I was able to install PHP 5 into a separate location than PHP 4 (both from ports), I'm now trying to add a PHP 5 extension (/usr/ports/graphics/php5-gd). The built-in version checking is saying: ===> php5-gd-5.2.5 cannot install: doesn't work with PHP version : 4 (Doesn't support PHP 4). *** Error code 1 ... which would be an issue if my PREFIX was the same, but it's not. Is there a way I can trick the ports system into thinking I don't have PHP 4 installed? Patrick On Tue, Apr 3, 2007 at 8:36 AM, patrick wrote: > Thanks, that worked really well. For those searching the archive for > an easy answer, you just need to do: > > make PREFIX=/path/to/where/you/want all install clean > > Patrick > > > > > On 4/2/07, Kimi Ostro wrote: > > On 02/04/07, patrick wrote: > > > I have a FreeBSD 6.2 server with Apache 1.3.x and PHP 4.4.x built from > > > ports. I'd like to install PHP 5 from the ports tree, but target its > > > install location to /usr/local/php5 to keep it separate from the PHP 4 > > > stuff. (I'll be running PHP through fastcgi.) I'm wondering if there's > > > a way to do built a port where the install root is different from the > > > default? If not, I'll hand-build PHP5, but I'd much rather take > > > advantage of ports. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > % man 7 ports > > > > look for PREFIX > > > > HTH, > > > > -- > > Kimi > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 03:26:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C52A16A401 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A1C13C45B for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (dsl092-075-097.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.75.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1M3QCVd043912 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:26:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BE40D4.2030308@forrie.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:26:12 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20080221094221.0253fe28@mail.computinginnovations.com> <47BDBB92.4070505@forrie.com> <200802212052.34336.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802212052.34336.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5922/Thu Feb 21 21:32:23 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:26:19 -0000 Mel wrote: > >Your extensions.ini has duplicate and non-existing modules. Start here: > >mv /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp >sort -u /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp |while read MOD; do > if test -f /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/${MOD##extension=}; then > echo $MOD > fi >done >/usr/local/etc/extensions.ini >php -v I've done this and still have a problem with PHP5 dumping core: root@mail /usr/ports/lang/php5]# php -v PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 21 2008 21:51:01) Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies with eAccelerator v0.9.5.2, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by eAccelerator with Suhosin v0.9.18, Copyright (c) 2002-2006, by Hardened-PHP Project Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) I tried compiling this without eAccelerator, got the same problem. I'm now trying it without the Suhosin enhancements to see if that's the problem - sent a copy of this to the PHP5 port maintainer. Thanks again, Forrest From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 03:38:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A365116A405 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2660D13C465 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1M3cEk6044032 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:38:14 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id m1M3cC5t051862; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:38:12 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:38:12 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200802220338.m1M3cC5t051862@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: jerrymc@msu.edu In-reply-to: <20080220175451.GA56513@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> (message from Jerry McAllister on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:54:51 -0500) References: <94136a2c0802200802r790ea5b1ye6f1a331b15ed6f4@mail.gmail.com> <47BC61BA.60103@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20080220175451.GA56513@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: zszalbot@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security of a new installation / steps to take X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:38:17 -0000 Hi, To all the things that follow (sorry about top reply) I'd add a clever configuration of tcpwrapper (/etc/hosts.allow) whenever it is possible: allows to open a service to a list of given clients only. It is just another layer of security. Olivier > > So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware > > firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc. > > Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot > > more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of > > steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install > > applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some > > advice from you re the basic steps. > > The important mantra to remember when securing a machine that is exposed > to the internet is: > > What does not listen on the network cannot be used to compromise you. > > In practice, this means run sockstat and look for all the processes > that are listening for connections on your external network interfaces. > > If you don't need it, then don't run it. > > If you don't need external access to it, then bind it to the loopback > interface[1] or use it via a Unix domain socket (eg. 'skip-networking' in > MySQL configuration) > > If you do need it, then strongly prefer encrypted versions of network > protocols: IMAPS rather than IMAP, HTTPS instead of HTTP. This is > particularly important if people are using password based authentication > - -- otherwise you'ld be transmitting those passwords over the net in plain, > where they are vulnerable to snooping. > > Ensure that any software that does listen on the network runs as an > unprivileged UID. Ensure that the login accounts used for such daemons do > not have real shells (/usr/sbin/nologin is a good choice) and preferably > either have a non-existent home directory, or a home directory that the > process does not own and cannot write to. The current working directory > of the process (frequently /, but you can use 'fstat -p pid' and look > for the 'wd' entry to find this) should similarly be unwritable by > the process. If the process can run chrooted or jailed then it's a good > idea to make it so. > > Be very wary of many web based applications, particularly those written > in PHP. Sad to say, but many web developers just don't have a clue about > security and commit some enormous howlers. They also love writing web- > accessible configuration scripts, which you should take care to disable by > changing filesystem permissions once you've done the configuring parts > and also block or severely restrict access to by your webserver configuration. > If anyone proposes running any PHP code that requires you to set 'register_globals' > to 'on' in php.ini; well, suffice it to say, no sensible jury would > convict should that person come to an ... unfortunate ... end. > > Make sure you track freebsd-announce@freebsd.org and apply any system patches > in a timely manner. Also make full use of portaudit(1) and generally ensure > that you are running up to date versions of any ported software. > > If you can do all the above effectively, then your machine should be pretty > secure as is, even without running any severe filtering through the built in > firewalls. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [1] People that understand the implications of the weak routing model > as commonly seen in Unix servers (and certainly those that cannot control > access to the same layer-2 network their server is on) will want to protect > the loopback against spoofing attacks. The following 3-line pf.conf > will do the trick: > > scrub in > pass all > antispoof log quick for lo0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 03:38:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA4F16A501 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: from smtpout09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A3D213C448 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from e.schuele@computer.org) Received: (qmail 4086 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 03:11:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (96.226.32.9) by smtpout09-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.17) with ESMTP; 22 Feb 2008 03:11:41 -0000 Message-ID: <47BE3D6C.7060300@computer.org> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:11:40 -0600 From: Eric Schuele User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Harrison References: <4769770500B2FB0C@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) In-Reply-To: <4769770500B2FB0C@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 OpenPGP: url=http://www.ravenlock.us/files/pub_schuele.pgp Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig114CD922DB175EB8451D48F7" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POP3 recommendations... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:38:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig114CD922DB175EB8451D48F7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/21/2008 15:55, Peter Harrison wrote: > I've not run a POP3 server before, but now I'm getting tired of confusi= ng myself pulling my email down from my ISP across my laptop, desktop, an= d home server. Could someone recommend a solution for me? >=20 > The situation is that I have a home server (running NFS, Samba, FTP, Ap= ache, Mysql), plus a desktop and laptop (which generally gets used just a= round the house). The desktop and laptop both run fetchmail to collect my= email from my ISP - but obviously this means some of my email ends up on= the laptop, and some on the desktop. IMHO... You don't need to run your own mailserver to solve this. Simply have one of your machines only download the mail. Have the other, download and *remove* the mail from the server. Or possibly, have them both only remove mail that is older than x-days from the server. This will allow you to get the mail onto both machines, assuming you use each machine within the given time. >=20 > I'm after something like using fetchmail on the server to collect the m= ail, then probably sort it with procmail before making it available to my= home network. The aim is for the mail to remain on the home server - Ie.= In one central location on my network. >=20 > Any recommendations for a POP3 server that would fit into a home networ= k and make this easy to understand for the newbie? If you must use one... I'm not sure it gets any easier than qpopper. >=20 > Thanks for your help. >=20 >=20 > Peter Harrison >=20 > Peter, Deb, Jessica, & Alex > Visit us online at www.4harrisons.blogspot.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg" >=20 >=20 --=20 Regards, Eric --------------enig114CD922DB175EB8451D48F7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHvj1sngSDRM3IXUoRAgIeAJ9coeZAUFc39pxJEwMQ0/C+BW1vvQCg0bF+ AzM65i/Eh8yToEF0orDrMvQ= =4DF4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig114CD922DB175EB8451D48F7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 03:40:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D10816A403 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A480313C44B for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1M3aYJt046968 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:36:39 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2072.150.135.84.71.1203647284.squirrel@squirrelmail.math.arizona.edu> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> <2072.150.135.84.71.1203647284.squirrel@squirrelmail.math.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:36:29 +1000 Message-Id: <1203651389.4297.25.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.432, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.37, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:40:28 -0000 On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 19:28 -0700, punosevac@math.arizona.edu wrote: > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>> use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this > >> > >> what is "desktop system" and "server system"? > >> > >> AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both.. > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > FreeBSD as a desktop compared to other OS's? I think there are > > technical, community and attitude differences which prevent FreeBSD from > > competing as a desktop. > > There is at least very strong consensus in the OpenBSD community and much > less in FreeBSD community that the systems are developed by developers for > the developer and alike on the base of the > technical merit not cheap tricks. I am as a non-developer just getting a > free ride. FreeBSD is a free system and doesn't have customers to please. > It is developed by the people in their spare time to the best possible for > their needs. (They are not necessary the same as yours and mine) > > > Those Desktop users that you want to attract would not benefit from FreeBSD > nor FreeBSD community would benefit from them. > > > > Support for USB devices seems better in Linux too. The number of times > > people would come in and say why don't you use Linux and I would say > > FreeBSD is better and they would say well plug this USB ethernet adapter > > in and see if it works then, and it wouldn't. > > If you knew how to alter permissions and do auto-mount you would see too. > > > > If you want to do video editing on FreeBSD you can't use the main free > > software application, Cinelerra. It's not ported to FreeBSD and from > > what I've read it won't be - something to do with ALSA drivers I > > believe. > > Please, do not even go there. > ALSA vs OSS story is one of the darkest chapters in the Linux development. > Read this before we go any further > > http://4front-tech.com/hannublog/?p=5 > > > > Also multimedia functionality generally is far more developed > > on Mac and windows. > > yes. So what? OS X is life style operating system. My friends in Apple are > making living by pleasing their customers. > > > I would be really interested to know how the FreeBSD > > kernel compares to the Linux realtime kernel. Are there any recent > > benchmarks? Something like Kris Kennaway's fantastic mySQL benchmarks > > presentation? > > > > What is your point? Your desktop computer is faster than mine? That is > irrelevant for the discussion about FreeBSD on the desktop. > By the way, I proudly say as mostly OpenBSD user that OpenBSD scales the > worst out of all *nix operating systems. > > > > > I'm sure none of these things are impossible, simply I get the > > impression they are not very interesting to the people who decide the > > direction of FreeBSD. > > > > There are other differences which I think come down to the overall size > > of the development community. I'm sure FreeBSD has all the components to > > allow a nice icon and directory window appear automagically on the > > desktop when you plug your removeable drive or camera in. > > It does on mine. You have to know how to configure the damn thing. > > > >I guess there > > must be some sort of similarity between the number of people doing > > Debian development and the number of people doing FreeBSD development. > > The difference with Linux is that there are hundreds of other dev > > communities taking Debian or whatever as a starting point and > > configuring it for different out-of-the-box use. Hence ubuntu and all > > the others. > > Hence the PC-BSD, DekstopBSD, TrueBSD, RuFreeSBIE, MidnightBSD and all the > others. There are in total over 40 distros based on FreeBSD. At least 10 > of them that I know of have as a stated goal to be customized easy to use > FreeBSD installation on the Desktop. > > > > > >There are comparatively very few desktop development > > projects that take FreeBSD as a starting point. > > > With all due respect you are just ill informed. Look the above. > Sorry to burst your bubble but PC-BSD is much easier to install and run > than your Ubuntu. If PC-BSD/FreeBSD had a native Flash supports and if > they > succeed to automatic creation of PBI for all 18000 ports PC-BSD would > smoke the Ubuntu as the number one Grand Ma Milly OS by a mile. > > > > Cheers, > Predrag I agree with that, but there in lies the point- they don't. Its a shame that the definition of systems revolves around piece of crap software that everyone else has, but there you have it. So by desktop we mean easy to use, off the shelf that does what people want which they can get elsewhere- a home system. Workstation is a machine for the office with "real" IT people administering them. Which is primarily what FreeBSD stands for atm. And I don't believe it should change either. > > P.S. I am not trying to participate in a flame war or a troll so this is > going to be my last message on this thread. > > > >Hence rolling your own X > > and desktop setup in FreeBSD let alone automounter and a hundred other > > things. > > > > This is not meant to be an anti-FreeBSD rant, I love FreeBSD, it has > > some sort of quality and ease of use which I find hard to define, which > > is different to the 'ease of use' of windows or ubuntu (see I can't even > > give them capital letters) and which I wouldn't swap for anything. But I > > do think there is also some refusal or maybe just lack of resource > > > > > > to engage with a completely different view of what computers are > > for that the vast majority of the computer population has, an attitude > > exemplified by the comment that started me off on this rant. > > > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 03:59:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259C716A401 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5EF9613C448 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 2360 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 03:59:07 -0000 Received: from adsl246.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.246) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 22 Feb 2008 03:59:05 -0000 Message-ID: <47BE487F.9050108@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:58:55 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Harrison References: <4769770500B2FB0C@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) In-Reply-To: <4769770500B2FB0C@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POP3 recommendations... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:59:10 -0000 Hi, in addition to the IMPA server, you could run your favorite application at the server and log on remotely. Erich Peter Harrison wrote: > I've not run a POP3 server before, but now I'm getting tired of confusing myself pulling my email down from my ISP across my laptop, desktop, and home server. Could someone recommend a solution for me? > > The situation is that I have a home server (running NFS, Samba, FTP, Apache, Mysql), plus a desktop and laptop (which generally gets used just around the house). The desktop and laptop both run fetchmail to collect my email from my ISP - but obviously this means some of my email ends up on the laptop, and some on the desktop. > > I'm after something like using fetchmail on the server to collect the mail, then probably sort it with procmail before making it available to my home network. The aim is for the mail to remain on the home server - Ie. In one central location on my network. > > Any recommendations for a POP3 server that would fit into a home network and make this easy to understand for the newbie? > > Thanks for your help. > > > Peter Harrison > > Peter, Deb, Jessica, & Alex > Visit us online at www.4harrisons.blogspot.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 04:36:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E8316A407 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209A213C468 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:36:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m1M4aYSM062178 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:36:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m1M4aYOP062177; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:36:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA24191; Thu, 21 Feb 08 20:28:02 PST Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:23:07 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Message-Id: <47be4e2b.vQK8DB3ioXE6GzW+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> <1203647649.4297.19.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1203647649.4297.19.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:36:45 -0000 > When defining the differences to my clients as to windows, > Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ... Sheesh! What did VW do to you to deserve an insult like that? I still see the occasional beetle on the roads. I doubt that would be the case if they had to be "rebooted" a couple of times a day. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 04:48:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07ED916A404 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E2A13C457 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1M4klZL029050 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:46:48 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47be4e2b.vQK8DB3ioXE6GzW+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> <1203647649.4297.19.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be4e2b.vQK8DB3ioXE6GzW+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:46:39 +1000 Message-Id: <1203655600.4297.36.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.443, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.36, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:48:12 -0000 On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 20:23 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > When defining the differences to my clients as to windows, > > Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ... > > Sheesh! What did VW do to you to deserve an insult like that? > > I still see the occasional beetle on the roads. I doubt that would > be the case if they had to be "rebooted" a couple of times a day. Do you have a better suggestion? I'd be happy to use it ;) Maybe a Sigma? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 04:49:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7C816A404 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:49:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8374F13C469 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:49:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (dsl092-075-097.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.75.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1M4naLe019246 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:49:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BE5460.8070606@forrie.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:49:36 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20080221094221.0253fe28@mail.computinginnovations.com> <47BDBB92.4070505@forrie.com> <200802212052.34336.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802212052.34336.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5922/Thu Feb 21 21:32:23 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:49:47 -0000 Mel, I did the recompile (including php5 and php5-extensions) and still get this: # php -v PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so' - /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so: Undefined symbol "spl_ce_RuntimeException" in Unknown on line 0 PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 21 2008 22:45:11) Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies with eAccelerator v0.9.5.2, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by eAccelerator Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) Though, I'm able to at least get my website running (which uses PHP) -- it will inevitably crash again when the logs are rotated. Maybe I should consider upgrading to apache22? _F From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 05:02:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDED16A400 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:02:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96E113C45E for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so201782rvb.43 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:02:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xhIwUV99xF+fb907cZ76ddL/rHqQ7+i+B+ih9/AxC5k=; b=xK/8aL/ynjdrY/WIEMHwJDGhaf52yC4O+o3CX99w4GbT+ML7FQMyEsze20Iwe2kddb9dyzDusA8UyThA9a8z9D4tBMeY9R4UF0lQWlYboNIZZz1+hu9+XNuK8WSdBz3QaBix1pkM/rSYzMiKvflZaFEdHY3PPBF+kaUjnP4Fj74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Vs2soh54BdE4xDU/Q6MLkbFBkUbWrzHd5iTKA7x0dYoK40o7HR3bKQL2MFvEUojsRPV5z0OROvKRnKpxy/8fehi5rOYw3oZJFljZVHwtgOiFW/ssKGfxEXmBTFu9elI86ZfD+GSMV9emqUjnclDZPilUYGek9+wKP7HBVNht4/s= Received: by 10.141.198.9 with SMTP id a9mr2043566rvq.123.1203656525574; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:02:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.185.19 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:02:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:02:05 -0800 From: patrick To: "FreeBSD Questions Mailing List" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <42b497160704021026w1be0c59dvf83467f89ae87214@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Multiple versions of PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:02:07 -0000 Okay, I got it installed, but I had to make temporary changes to /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.php.mk. My first idea was to build with: make PREFIX=/usr/local/php5 LOCALBASE=/usr/local/php5 but that didn't work because other things expect LOCALBASE to be /usr/local (or rather, expect that whatever LOCALBASE is set to will contain various other supporting build utilities). It would be nice if bsd.php.mk used ${LOCALPHPBASE} which would by default be set to ${LOCALBASE}. This would allow for multiple installations of PHP in different locations. Patrick On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 7:25 PM, patrick wrote: > I've got a new problem... > > While I was able to install PHP 5 into a separate location than PHP 4 > (both from ports), I'm now trying to add a PHP 5 extension > (/usr/ports/graphics/php5-gd). The built-in version checking is > saying: > > ===> php5-gd-5.2.5 cannot install: doesn't work with PHP version : 4 > (Doesn't support PHP 4). > *** Error code 1 > > ... which would be an issue if my PREFIX was the same, but it's not. > Is there a way I can trick the ports system into thinking I don't have > PHP 4 installed? > > Patrick > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2007 at 8:36 AM, patrick wrote: > > Thanks, that worked really well. For those searching the archive for > > an easy answer, you just need to do: > > > > make PREFIX=/path/to/where/you/want all install clean > > > > Patrick > > > > > > > > > > On 4/2/07, Kimi Ostro wrote: > > > On 02/04/07, patrick wrote: > > > > I have a FreeBSD 6.2 server with Apache 1.3.x and PHP 4.4.x built from > > > > ports. I'd like to install PHP 5 from the ports tree, but target its > > > > install location to /usr/local/php5 to keep it separate from the PHP 4 > > > > stuff. (I'll be running PHP through fastcgi.) I'm wondering if there's > > > > a way to do built a port where the install root is different from the > > > > default? If not, I'll hand-build PHP5, but I'd much rather take > > > > advantage of ports. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > % man 7 ports > > > > > > look for PREFIX > > > > > > HTH, > > > > > > -- > > > Kimi > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 05:30:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C4C16A400 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743D613C461 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so206281rvb.43 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:30:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FWVeb3Dyho+JU/JVFtiLbHhIzEWm7K7NlstFi7JdihE=; b=RLemcfpqUuiBaKmJRvkmylKDjs24LzpZ8K1rFQ00Go0smCze53aKYo6p98aDtCJwJD/J5jHltA+j094Ksot2xyxTJKhOdYdIpXJBPdey0Q5mKfrQGFUaRXIYiymYwm8MNiA52dDo+sIrXFd52i+GO6EE/f4GrSW5mvmaVpVdL9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IyuAi1zXKJSFQMpoCT3KqsXx321VkQCF0K9TAbS5Lc1tfsgWahFq6zRy1ciVEPf2Moa55OXtnu3dScIkL8SuF6sLAhff1wbLa3eCE2b0eE+AsgjDbdvd37zR/s+x0dxj07aYHVufDHfFeTGdGAefITSAZku+fLWt+S+6jvkBMqY= Received: by 10.141.211.13 with SMTP id n13mr7390059rvq.12.1203658218907; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:30:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.141.7 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:30:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:30:18 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Da Rock" In-Reply-To: <1203655600.4297.36.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> <1203647649.4297.19.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be4e2b.vQK8DB3ioXE6GzW+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1203655600.4297.36.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:30:19 -0000 On 21/02/2008, Da Rock wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 20:23 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > When defining the differences to my clients as to windows, > > > Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ... > > > > Sheesh! What did VW do to you to deserve an insult like that? > > > > I still see the occasional beetle on the roads. I doubt that would > > be the case if they had to be "rebooted" a couple of times a day. I've driven a 1967 1300. Rebooting would have been a pleasure. Upsides: never needed an oil change. Downsides: Kyoto protocols. > > > Do you have a better suggestion? I'd be happy to use it ;) Maybe a > Sigma? > H2 with a "Go C-hocks" flag on the half-retracted FM antenna: Dan Ackroyd's mum being chauffeured by Gary Busey in a leo-pard print camisole. Obligatory Kerry/Edwards bumber(sic) stickon partially covering the "rn Broke: Watch 4 Finger". A bit of everything to everyone, really. The Ho was left out in the interest of good taste and conformance to the Bishop Don Magic Juan standard. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 05:32:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D6816A403 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA6513C448 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so287697wxd.7 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:32:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pC15iqowHTbKxJFzzNu7TNJIxhSMC/1AW7YWvOFU7pM=; b=ZcQ04NO6v/0dwKcCySoQ8UjoYJpI01qgWsO3pWGhraJWFDhuGhG/oN+1eNEThRehSZAFB6XQx1+xWlHdY2O43CuoDfmQzsseWYxe3DgMZimOe5LDeeCrkXRVEKIIdu6663au2+8+BZf4EDQ83gsffPSodLN+aO284tdqpCUKk1Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oxPrpdUobWiuLznWDGkH3QAB7m0MFMlg5JlKmTYSgvJGlNVRu2AqYtYX5dQ4BcW0vzxLRKBtHdeRdYwnMBFY5oEf/qHnkIkCItlx7yNfUscRTjuQhcLSjTTqH7wBaRfaAm51KwmwfCksdQAROZlfSZMOL32gBmJrvSwKDXE9CyQ= Received: by 10.141.206.13 with SMTP id i13mr7333256rvq.211.1203656736466; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.185.19 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:05:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:05:36 -0800 From: patrick To: "Doug Poland" In-Reply-To: <47BDAD75.50801@polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47BDAD75.50801@polands.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ionCube PHP Encoder / Loader on FreeBSD 6 / 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:32:46 -0000 Hi Doug, You may get more help if you provide some more details like log messages or specifics about what is not working. Patrick On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having problems getting ionCube's PHP loader working on either > 6.3-RELEASE or 7.0-RC2 (both i386). I've followed the install > instructions, edited php.ini, installed compat5x and compat6x libraries, > but just cannot get the loader to work. Both boxes are running PHP 5.2.5. > > Have googled and read the ioncube forums. I must be missing something > obvious. > > Thanks in advance... > > -- > Regards, > Doug > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 05:58:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172F516A400 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:58:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B3013C442 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1M5uwjG009025 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:56:59 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47be5fb2.jZZIZJkadZ96YrS7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> <1203647649.4297.19.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be4e2b.vQK8DB3ioXE6GzW+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1203655600.4297.36.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be5fb2.jZZIZJkadZ96YrS7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:56:52 +1000 Message-Id: <1203659812.4297.40.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.445, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.35, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:58:25 -0000 On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 21:37 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > > When defining the differences to my clients as to windows, > > > > Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ... > > > > > > Sheesh! What did VW do to you to deserve an insult like that? > > > > > > I still see the occasional beetle on the roads. I doubt that would > > > be the case if they had to be "rebooted" a couple of times a day. > > > > Do you have a better suggestion? I'd be happy to use it ;) Maybe a > > Sigma? > > [dropping the list] > > Never heard of Sigma as a vehicle. > > You need something that costs too much, breaks down a lot, and > never uses standard parts if they can help it. > Mercedes? :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 06:13:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A7316A402 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:13:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09E113C448 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m1M6DACx052856; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:13:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Gary Kline" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:14:11 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20080220080221.GA1947@thought.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:13:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:13:13 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:02 AM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. > > > Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy > for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; > my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. > > Circa '01 or '02 I figured my olden DJ500 had cost ~$45/year. > Not counting the ink. It kept chugging around until a month or > so ago and by now it really is worm out. It makes it's old, > clunking, grinding sounds when I power dowwn, but nothing when I > boot up. And a friend stopped by this afternoon and checked. > Cabling is fine; printer has power. None of the buttons respond; > no reset, no formfeed, nada. Only two of the usual three LED's > are lit, so it's probably broken, burn-out, or worn out wires > somewhere. > > The problem with buying New---and my wife is threatening me > if I buy some older, junker printer---the problem is getting any > of these printers that do everything but shine your shoes is: > are there drivers to make them work with FreeBSD? I don't care > about fax, or features like scanning and copying. About the same > with color since most files are code or essays. > Yes, there are for most printers, but it takes some juggling for some. Start at http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting and look up the printer in the database. It will tell you a tremendous amount as to whether the printer will work. Naturally, if your budget can afford it, a PostScript printer is the way to go. The one thing I would caution is that anything that uses the PC to rasterize the page requires a lot of CPU power. For example I have an Epson Stylus C84 (I bought it mainly because it uses separate ink cartridges for all the colors so when the printer runs out of ink in one color, your not throwing away perfectly good ink in the remaining chambers) This printer uses a complex series of filters, gimpprint, ghostscript and so on to take the PostScript page and convert it into whatever nasty proprietary junk the printer speaks. It worked perfectly once I figured everything out. The problem is that when I first set it up I used a 300Mhz Pentium II and it took at least 3-4 minutes to digest a complex page and send it to the printer. > Nutshell, I'd like anyone's ideas/experiences with some of these > new HP/<<< or whateverbrand>>> printers. I wouldn't *mind* if I > could scan in text from a techy paper into HTML or PDF or text. > But mostly, like 99.44% plain black text. My old deskjet used > gs as a filter to print PostScript. Do we have any such plugin > support, or are printers still roll-your-own? Here's an interesting story. On my desk at work I have a Mac running MacOS 10.4 We have an HP 3550 color laserjet that does not have postscript. When I setup the Mac I downloaded the driver from HP and it did not work - the printer merely printed out raw postscript code - obviously the driver was for the postscript version of this printer. Well, Macs run cups and it took me a couple hours of downloading some code packages and compiling them on the Mac and doing various things but I did eventually end up with a similar thing on the Mac - the print jobs are passed to ghostscript on the mac then to a special driver someone wrote that converts the gs output to something the printer can understand. The thing that really irked me about the whole thing was that in all of the documentation from both HP and Apple, the HP 3550 is listed as a supported printer, and no mention of a need for a postscript chip is made anywhere. We aren't the only ones screwed over by the printer manufacturers. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 06:40:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE2D16A400 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (gw.tensor.gdynia.pl [213.192.64.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7716713C45B for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1M6YheP001615; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:34:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1M6Ydh8001612; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:34:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:34:39 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Forrest Aldrich In-Reply-To: <47BE5460.8070606@forrie.com> Message-ID: <20080222073428.V1601@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20080221094221.0253fe28@mail.computinginnovations.com> <47BDBB92.4070505@forrie.com> <200802212052.34336.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BE5460.8070606@forrie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:40:58 -0000 > > # php -v > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so' - > /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so: Undefined symbol > "spl_ce_RuntimeException" in Unknown on line 0 > PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 21 2008 22:45:11) > Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group > Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies > with eAccelerator v0.9.5.2, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by > eAccelerator > Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) > > > Though, I'm able to at least get my website running (which uses PHP) -- it > will inevitably crash again when the logs are rotated. > > Maybe I should consider upgrading to apache22? or 1.3... but you show it's PHP problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 06:42:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3051816A403 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (gw.tensor.gdynia.pl [213.192.64.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8206713C46E for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LMlaX5008995; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:47:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1LMlYcr008992; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:47:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:47:34 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Peter Harrison In-Reply-To: <4769770500B2FB0C@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) Message-ID: <20080221234707.H8991@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4769770500B2FB0C@n064.sc1.he.tucows.com> (added by postmaster@bouncemessage.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POP3 recommendations... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:42:19 -0000 > I've not run a POP3 server before, but now I'm getting tired of confusing myself pulling my email down from my ISP across my laptop, desktop, and home server. Could someone recommend a solution for me? while i use dovecot for imap, it works for pop3 too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 07:13:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B16816A402 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:13:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3334F13C46A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:13:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m1M7D3DQ089992 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:13:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m1M7D3ww089987 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA24527; Thu, 21 Feb 08 23:12:23 PST Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:07:29 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <47be74b1.pGW9HajDXl3VC5wx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: setting X11BASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:13:04 -0000 After updating with portsnap, I am getting an insufficiently-helpful error message: On FreeBSD before 6.2 ports system unfortunately can not set default X11BASE by itself so please help it a bit by setting X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} in make.conf. On the other hand, if you do wish to use non-default X11BASE, please set variable USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE. * Am I correct in *guessing* that "make.conf" refers to /etc/make.conf? * What is the value of LOCALBASE? I'm not finding any definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf. * How do I figure out whether I should set USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE? * Why does it even need this? The port I am trying to install ATM (portmaster, to get a handle on the dependency maze) has nothing to do with X11. In case it matters, I have not upgraded to the modular Xorg, and would prefer not to go through all that. "It ain't broke ..." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 07:17:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3A416A403 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89F913C4D1 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m1M7H7Hp053940; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:17:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Predrag Punosevac" , "David Kelly" Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:18:08 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <47BC8CAE.8010200@math.arizona.edu> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:17:09 -0800 (PST) Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: RE: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:17:10 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Predrag > Punosevac > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:25 PM > To: David Kelly > Cc: Gary Kline; FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. > > > David Kelly wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:02:25AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >> Nutshell, I'd like anyone's ideas/experiences with some of these > >> new HP/<<< or whateverbrand>>> printers. I wouldn't *mind* if I > >> could scan in text from a techy paper into HTML or PDF or text. > >> But mostly, like 99.44% plain black text. My old deskjet used > >> gs as a filter to print PostScript. Do we have any such plugin > >> support, or are printers still roll-your-own? [FWIW, I can't > >> seem to get CUPS working... altho it maay be my misssing > >> /dev/lpt0.] > >> > > > > > Why don't you check http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting for > the most comprehensive information available. > > Just couple a comments. I would keep native LPD spooling system instead > installing CUPS unless you need to use something > like HPLIP drivers. You do not need CUPS for the hplip drivers, you can use lpd if you want. To be perfectly clear on this, all that CUPS is, is 4 things: Spool manager - LPD does this Speaks IPP protocol - LPD also does this except it speaks LPR protocol Easy user interface for the options needed by some of the more complex filters. - lpd does NOT do this BUT, you can do it by writing your own filter script and coding the options you want into it. Note that most options are set once and forget, so CUPS really doesen't add much here. CUPS uses Postscript PPD files to automagically generate the webpage the user fills out to select these options. web-interface for job mangement - well who needs this for a personal printer attached to a workstation? The reason CUPS is used so much is that it dummifies the chain of hooking together programs into a black box. So, people who don't understand what is going on can setup a printer by clicking buttons. That is fine if your printer model is supported. But if it doesen't work or if the model is a new one that the cups people haven't quite yet got around to testing with, or nobody has written a .PPD file for it, you have to understand what is going on then. I've posted the following before, but here's the instructions I use for setting up my C84 without CUPS, so you can see how this kind of thing works. They are just a bit old but still work if you change the version #s. The setup uses the IJS output from Ghostscript and feeds it into gimpprint. The HPLIP scheme works exactly the same way except that instead of gimpprint, you use the hpijs driver along with the required options: 1) setup print queue Add the following to the end of /etc/printcap: lp-epson|Epson C84 Color printer:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/output/lp-epson:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:mx=0:\ :of=/usr/local/bin/epsonfilter:rw: lp-epson-raw|Epson C84 Color Printer - raw for Windows systems:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/output/lp-epson-raw:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :mx#0:rw: Create the print queues: cd /var/spool/output mkdir lp-epson mkdir lp-epson-raw Add in access for the local systems cat /etc/hosts.lpd # $FreeBSD: src/etc/hosts.lpd,v 1.4 1999/08/27 23:23:42 peter Exp $ # # See lpd(8) #machine.domain tedwin2k.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com 192.168.1.60 tedsdesk.ipinc.net ip-port-rtr1.ipinc.net sunrise.ipinc.net nat-rtr# Run some test prints through the queues: cd /etc ls -l | lpr -P lp-text Send a test print page from the Windows 2K workstation via lpr to the print queue on the BSD box (do a chmod 664 on the lock file in the lp-epson-raw queue, since network LPR doesen't set the mask up properly per submitted bug) 2) Install the tools to image a printjob for the Epson, as follows: cd /usr/ports/print/gimp-print make WITHOUT_CUPS=yes cd work/gimp-print-4.2.7/src/escputil ./escputil -i -u -r /dev/lpt0 (checks ink levels) ./escputil -n -u -r /dev/lpt0 (prints nozzle alignment) (try some other commands to see if the level of support is better) cd ../../../../ make WITHOUT_CUPS=yes install cd ../ghostscript-gnu make install Deselect all the printers, leave in stp and ijs driver, as well as all the X-windows drivers and the jpg and other image drivers. test the ghostscript install: cd /root man -t which > which.ps gs -dBATCH -sDEVICE=jpeg -sOutputFile=test.jpg which.ps open test.jpg in a browser and see if the page is there Now test gimpprint and ghostscript: first manually with the command, gs -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=/usr/local/bin/ijsgimpprint -sDeviceManufacturer =EPSON -sDeviceModel=escp2-c84 -sIjsParams=Quality=720x360sw,InkType=CMYK ,MediaType=Plain -dIjsUseOutputFD -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sOutputFile=test.out /usr/local/share/ghostscript/7.07/examples/colorcir.ps lpr -P lp-epson-raw test.out Create the file /usr/local/bin/epsonfilter with the following contents: #!/bin/sh # # Script that runs gimp-print for the Epson # /usr/local/bin/gs -q -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=/usr/local/bin/ijsgimpprint -s DeviceManufacturer=EPSON -sDeviceModel=escp2-c84 -sIjsParams=Quality=720x 360sw,InkType=CMYK,MediaType=Plain -dIjsUseOutputFD -dNOPAUSE -dNOBATCH -dSA FER -sOutputFile=- - test with firefox and use the printer lpr -P lp-epson test PS file: /usr/local/share/ghostscript/7.07/examples/colorcir.ps Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 08:52:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88E716A403 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F8813C47E for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:52:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m1M8qDE1055017; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:52:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Predrag Punosevac" , , Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:53:15 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <47BD1BC7.4000609@math.arizona.edu> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:52:15 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:52:15 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Predrag > Punosevac > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:36 PM > To: perryh@pluto.rain.com; questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. > > > Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > >>> Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy > >>> for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; > >>> my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. > >>> > >> > >> A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at > >> Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network > >> port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr > > What is lpr? Usually printers speak Post Script or PCL printer command > > language in which case you need a driver. > > LPD, LPRng, and CUPS are different spooling systems. > > Did you attach the printer to a computer or is acting as a free > > standing printer server. > > > There is a lpr driver by Brother for Linux. Brother and Canon have > binary blob drivers. Did you use that driver may be? > Does anyone know if those binary blobs can be useful for anything on > FreeBSD. They appear to be wrappers for standard > Ghost Script drivers. They aren't wrappers. The binary drivers generally take the intermediate output from the Ghostscript ijs driver and convert it into whatever the printer understands. If the binary driver is statically built then it likely can be run by the linuxulator under FreeBSD. Most of the time the binary drivers are wrapped in an install script that sets all this up. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 09:03:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594BC16A402 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E10813C467 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1M8sgGY073850 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:54:49 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:15:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BDDFC2.20708@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802221115.00835.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Score: -4.364 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:03:02 -0000 On Thursday 21 February 2008 23:03, D G Teed wrote: > For example, no where in this have I heard a peep about backup > software. Anyone serious about IT is serious about backup. Yet there > is no support for EMC (Legato) Networker in FreeBSD, and this is why > our organization is migrating away from this FreeBSD. Petty quibble: I suspect that you mean ``there is no support for FreeBSD in EMC Networker'' rather than the other way round. Picking a backup solution that can't back up some of your servers, and opting to fix the problem by getting rid of the servers, seems to me to be doing things the wrong way round - irrespective of which OS you're forcing yourself to get rid of. Of course, EMC Networker may be so much better than any other backup solution as to justify the work involved in moving working services to a different platform - I don't know Networker so I can't really comment, although I agree with most of what you said about making sure you pick a platform which supports what you're trying to do. I say most because my own feeling as a sysadmin is that you must have a very good reason to run more than the bare minimum range of operating systems you can - which is an argument for moving away from some platforms if you're already running several. I am in the process of moving from multiple platforms, ranging from Windows NT4, through e-smith (server-in-a-box based on Red Hat), Debian, and FreeBSD, from 4.8 up to date. We are aiming to end up with a bunch of FreeBSD boxes, all using a standard build from a central buildserver, plus one or two boxes running Windows Server 2003 supporting users, who are all running Windows desktops and applications, including apps which run on the server, with clients connecting over the network. It's taken a while but every time we get rid of an old box my workload in supporting the rest of the system drops a little. Note: I'm not saying everyone should standardise on FreeBSD - that's just what I'm most familiar with at the moment, and when I started to move things round we had more FreeBSD servers than anything else, so it made sense to pick that and bring the rest into line, where we were able to, especially because the other OSes were mainly running on hardware which was due for replacement soon anyway, so that the migration could be seen as being in the ordinary course of maintenance and not extra load on busy systems staff. (Sorry: when I realised I'd started my reply with a few lines which by accident were tapering off at the ends I couldn't resist trying to see how long I could keep it up. It's foolish, I know, but it is a fun exercise in picking your words carefully and yet still trying to make sense. If you aren't reading with a fixed width font, you may not be getting the effect of the layout anyway: so if you can't see it, I'm sorry for taking up yet more of your time, just to play about with line lengths and make up pretty patterns in your mail reader. I'll stop now or at least once I can taper down to the length of the given name I sign off with). Jonathan (Whew!) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 09:03:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2BA16A400 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7305F13C4DD for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1M93cJ6059468 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:03:38 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id m1M93cgJ057097; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:03:38 +0700 (ICT) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:03:38 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200802220903.m1M93cgJ057097@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: [OT] PC starter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:03:42 -0000 Automatically turn on your PC. It's a common problem, when using desktop hardware to run a server: after a power failure, the machine needs human action to restart. High-end desktops and server hardware often have a BIOS setting to automatically start when power comes back. Using a low-end, older PC hardware to run some low demanding services is very tempting, but what to do when the UPS runs out of battery, or when there are no UPS at all (for security reason, like a system that controls a door, it may be prefered to avoid using a UPS). The rest at http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/laboratory/door/pcstarter.shtml Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 09:05:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8840516A402 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver@akephalos.de) Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com (mailout06.sul.t-online.de [194.25.134.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0F713C4CC for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oliver@akephalos.de) Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1JRScB-0001op-02; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:34:31 +0100 Received: from localhost (r9F6jaZJotYFHyaXF1CVdYHtb0T3rFEu8X7j91kPTsfyKhq6mv10-LLA7IUXVV0Noqjviag9YN@[91.21.99.78]) by fwd35.t-online.de with esmtp id 1JRSc2-0ErSt60; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:34:22 +0100 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:34:23 +0100 From: Oliver Herold To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080219133423.GA44172@asgard.home> Mail-Followup-To: Oliver Herold , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-PGP-Key: http://www.fixmbr.de/wp-content/uploads/oliver-gpg-key.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-ID: r9F6jaZJotYFHyaXF1CVdYHtb0T3rFEu8X7j91kPTsfyKhq6mv10-LLA7IUXVV0Noqjviag9YN X-TOI-MSGID: 1221f0dc-8023-4a51-9eac-7d57431a8dff Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:05:38 -0000 --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes! This is the best answer to this question so far. Just UNIX nothing mor= e :-) --Oliver Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>=20 >>> by not being linux at all. >>=20 >> FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is > FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it is just unix - it depends= =20 > from the user how it's being used. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Every four seconds a woman has a baby. Our problem is to find this woman and stop her. --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAke62t4ACgkQbZFSiGSuUEh7BACffsd+E+S7yX15RFuJKHXOBB9p hesAn0fxWso2Ao4EVSPl1xKe1MxiRRHb =u8ya -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fUYQa+Pmc3FrFX/N-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 09:08:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363BB16A400 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu (math051.cs.arizona.edu [150.135.82.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CAF13C43E for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSTta-0008SJ-6M for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:08:46 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSTtS-0008S0-Hf; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:08:35 -0700 Message-ID: <47BE910E.2050404@math.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:08:30 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt , questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Cc: Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:08:47 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Predrag >> Punosevac >> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:25 PM >> To: David Kelly >> Cc: Gary Kline; FreeBSD Mailing List >> Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. >> >> >> David Kelly wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:02:25AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Nutshell, I'd like anyone's ideas/experiences with some of these >>>> new HP/<<< or whateverbrand>>> printers. I wouldn't *mind* if I >>>> could scan in text from a techy paper into HTML or PDF or text. >>>> But mostly, like 99.44% plain black text. My old deskjet used >>>> gs as a filter to print PostScript. Do we have any such plugin >>>> support, or are printers still roll-your-own? [FWIW, I can't >>>> seem to get CUPS working... altho it maay be my misssing >>>> /dev/lpt0.] >>>> >>>> >>> >> Why don't you check http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting for >> the most comprehensive information available. >> >> Just couple a comments. I would keep native LPD spooling system instead >> installing CUPS unless you need to use something >> like HPLIP drivers. >> > > You do not need CUPS for the hplip drivers, you can use lpd if you > want. > > To be perfectly clear on this, all that CUPS is, is 4 things: > > Spool manager - LPD does this > > Speaks IPP protocol - LPD also does this except it speaks LPR protocol > > Easy user interface for the options needed by some of the more complex > filters. - lpd does NOT do this BUT, you can do it by writing > your own filter script and coding the options you want into it. > Note that most options are set once and forget, so CUPS really > doesen't add much here. CUPS uses Postscript PPD files to automagically > generate the webpage the user fills out to select these options. > > web-interface for job mangement - well who needs this for a > personal printer attached to a workstation? > > The reason CUPS is used so much is that it dummifies the > chain of hooking together programs into a black box. So, > people who don't understand what is going on can setup a > printer by clicking buttons. That is fine if your printer > model is supported. But if it doesen't work or if the model > is a new one that the cups people haven't quite yet got around > to testing with, or nobody has written a .PPD file for it, > you have to understand what is going on then. > > I've posted the following before, but here's the instructions > I use for setting up my C84 without CUPS, so you can see > how this kind of thing works. They are just a bit old but > still work if you change the version #s. The setup uses the IJS output > from Ghostscript and feeds it into gimpprint. The HPLIP > scheme works exactly the same way except that instead of > gimpprint, you use the hpijs driver along with the required > options: > > 1) setup print queue > > Add the following to the end of /etc/printcap: > > lp-epson|Epson C84 Color printer:\ > :sh:\ > > :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/output/lp-epson:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:mx=0:\ > :of=/usr/local/bin/epsonfilter:rw: > lp-epson-raw|Epson C84 Color Printer - raw for Windows systems:\ > :sh:\ > > :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/output/lp-epson-raw:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > :mx#0:rw: > > Create the print queues: > > cd /var/spool/output > > mkdir lp-epson > mkdir lp-epson-raw > > Add in access for the local systems > > cat /etc/hosts.lpd > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/hosts.lpd,v 1.4 1999/08/27 23:23:42 peter Exp $ > # > # See lpd(8) > #machine.domain > tedwin2k.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > 192.168.1.60 > tedsdesk.ipinc.net > ip-port-rtr1.ipinc.net > sunrise.ipinc.net > nat-rtr# > > Run some test prints through the queues: > > cd /etc > ls -l | lpr -P lp-text > > Send a test print page from the Windows 2K workstation > via lpr to the print queue on the BSD box > > (do a chmod 664 on the lock file in the lp-epson-raw queue, since network > LPR doesen't set the mask up properly per submitted bug) > > 2) Install the tools to image a printjob for the Epson, as follows: > > cd /usr/ports/print/gimp-print > make WITHOUT_CUPS=yes > cd work/gimp-print-4.2.7/src/escputil > ./escputil -i -u -r /dev/lpt0 (checks ink levels) > ./escputil -n -u -r /dev/lpt0 (prints nozzle alignment) > (try some other commands to see if the level of support is better) > cd ../../../../ > make WITHOUT_CUPS=yes install > cd ../ghostscript-gnu > make install > Deselect all the printers, leave in stp and ijs driver, as well > as all the X-windows drivers and the jpg and other image drivers. > > test the ghostscript install: > > cd /root > man -t which > which.ps > gs -dBATCH -sDEVICE=jpeg -sOutputFile=test.jpg which.ps > open test.jpg in a browser and see if the page is there > > Now test gimpprint and ghostscript: > > first manually with the command, > > gs -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=/usr/local/bin/ijsgimpprint -sDeviceManufacturer > =EPSON -sDeviceModel=escp2-c84 -sIjsParams=Quality=720x360sw,InkType=CMYK > ,MediaType=Plain -dIjsUseOutputFD -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sOutputFile=test.out > /usr/local/share/ghostscript/7.07/examples/colorcir.ps > > lpr -P lp-epson-raw test.out > > Create the file /usr/local/bin/epsonfilter with the following contents: > > #!/bin/sh > # > # Script that runs gimp-print for the Epson > # > /usr/local/bin/gs -q -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=/usr/local/bin/ijsgimpprint -s > DeviceManufacturer=EPSON -sDeviceModel=escp2-c84 -sIjsParams=Quality=720x > 360sw,InkType=CMYK,MediaType=Plain -dIjsUseOutputFD -dNOPAUSE -dNOBATCH -dSA > FER -sOutputFile=- - > > test with firefox and > use the printer lpr -P lp-epson > > test PS file: /usr/local/share/ghostscript/7.07/examples/colorcir.ps > > This is now a real thing!!! Thank you so much for this how to! I was wondering myself why would one need CUPS to use HPLIP but I never had the gut to ask anybody as I didn't want to look like an idiot. In reality the only semi-serious document about setting HPLIP I have seen for FreeBSD is Daniel W. Steinbrook's how to which walks you through but doesn't explain how the things really work and why does he need CUPS. I learned a lot from your The FreeBSD Corporate Network's Guide. I would really love to see you personally updating chapter about printing in the Handbook. Chapter is well written but seems that it lacks details about filters and drivers necessary to set printers which speak only PCL. Most users including the University where I work do have some if not most printers which do NOT speak Post Script. The knowledge to edit the printcap file and how to utilize various filters seems to me as paramount importance. However, like probably on many other places the system administrators choose "easy" route which is using CUPS and buying printers that are documented to work with PPD files they can get from Linux Printing web-site. I do not think that they have every used foomatic rip to get PPD for a printer. Even worse they use Ubuntu for Printer Server and they are clueless what is really going on. At some point I was contemplating to buy http://www.amazon.com/CUPS-Common-Printing-System-White/dp/0672321963 and try to learn how really CUPS does work. The problem with that is that the more I learn about Unix Printing it is less clearly to me why the hack do we need CUPS anyway. For a really novice user I find apsfilter and running ./SETUP script far easier than using idiotic CUPS web-tool. Native LPD system is easy to trouble shoot, including network printing and I am not a system administrator by profession. Whole that mambo-jambo thing about security problems with LPD in the past seems absurd as even my home printer servers and stations are behind two layers of firewalls deep behind in the LAN zone. I would really love to see you writing a book about Unix printing as except the above book about CUPS I have not seen a single book entirely dedicated to Unix printing. I would love to learn from you advantages and disadvantages of common spooling systems LPD, LPRng, CUPS, and PDQ. I would love to see comprehensive paper explaining in the details printing process on the printers which speak PostScript or PCL. And trust me I did read blue and green book for Post Scrip language and are read through HP technical notes regarding CPL release. I would love to see comprehensive compassion of various auxiliary filters a2ps, apsfilter, magicfilter, ifhp, foomatic and explanation how they work. I would love to see driver comparation ghostscrip vs gutenprint vs hplip. I would love to see lots of examples of the printcap files which were used on real *BSD machines in various situations network situation including heavy network printing with various groups, priorities, and quotas. Maybe most people who use computers want them just to work but I personally love to know how they do it. In detail:-) Most Kind Regards, Predrag Punosevac > Ted > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 09:19:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C54216A404 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:19:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE2813C4E7 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:19:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSU3b-00068L-5X for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:19:17 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSU3V-000682-PD; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:18:57 -0700 Message-ID: <47BE937F.5090201@math.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:18:55 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt , questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) Cc: Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:19:17 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Predrag >> Punosevac >> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:36 PM >> To: perryh@pluto.rain.com; questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. >> >> >> Predrag Punosevac wrote: >> >>> perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>> >>>>> Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy >>>>> for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; >>>>> my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at >>>> Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network >>>> port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr >>>> >>> What is lpr? Usually printers speak Post Script or PCL printer command >>> language in which case you need a driver. >>> LPD, LPRng, and CUPS are different spooling systems. >>> Did you attach the printer to a computer or is acting as a free >>> standing printer server. >>> >>> >> There is a lpr driver by Brother for Linux. Brother and Canon have >> binary blob drivers. Did you use that driver may be? >> Does anyone know if those binary blobs can be useful for anything on >> FreeBSD. They appear to be wrappers for standard >> Ghost Script drivers. >> > > They aren't wrappers. The binary drivers generally take the > intermediate output from the Ghostscript ijs driver and convert > it into whatever the printer understands. If the binary driver > is statically built then it likely can be run by the linuxulator > under FreeBSD. > > Most of the time the binary drivers are wrapped in an install script > that sets all this up. > > I will actually try to do that as soon as I get my hands on one of those Brother printers and see if I can get it to work on FreeBSD and OpenBSD. Of course, I will definitely try to set up my wife's Photosmart C5250 with only using LPD:-) Thanks one more time Tad! Predrag > Ted > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 09:28:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588F916A404 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68E513C46A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1M9QA12033312 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:26:11 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <47be8013.1vzfbmuRdzsgw+40%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> <1203647649.4297.19.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be4e2b.vQK8DB3ioXE6GzW+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1203655600.4297.36.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be5fb2.jZZIZJkadZ96YrS7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1203659785.4297.38.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be8013.1vzfbmuRdzsgw+40%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:26:04 +1000 Message-Id: <1203672364.5367.5.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.442, required 4, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.36, BAYES_00 -15.00) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:28:06 -0000 On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 23:56 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > You need something that costs too much, breaks down a lot, > > > and never uses standard parts if they can help it. > > > > Mercedes? :) > > Fits the first, dunno about the third. Certainly not the second -- > Benz are some of the best-engineered and built cars in existence. > > Maybe BMW, aka Bunch-a Money Wasted or Bite My Wallet. > I wouldn't insult a quality car like that. Ive heard nothing but good stories about them and it's something I'd buy myself. Very safe to drive... Ok. How about the new VW beetle? I've heard they're crap- not as good as the original, expensive, poorly designed, break down a lot, and driven by little teeny boppers with money to waste buying just for the frilly stuff. Does that fit the bill? We'll take a vote- all in favor say aye... :P From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 09:52:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4316316A400 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A2313C4E8 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m1M9qKBI055338; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:52:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Gary Kline" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:53:22 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <200802211117.46912.kline@thought.org> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:52:21 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:52:23 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:18 AM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. > > > On Wednesday 20 February 2008 21:07:40 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy > > > for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; > > > my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. > > > > A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at > > Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network > > port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr (so you don't > > need to bother with CUPS). > > > > I am still on the original 1000-page starter cartridge. Replacements > > are rated 3000 sheets; I haven't priced them. > > > > That's black only. The cheapest color-capable networked PostScript > > printer I've found so far is the Xerox 6130N, for which I've been > > quoted $375 including $380 worth of cartridges (C, M, Y, K @ $95 each) > > -- Xerox seems to have some promotional pricing this month. IIRC the > > color cartridges are rated 1900 sheets and the black 2500. This one > > is also supposed to handle lpr natively. While I haven't got one (yet), > > I figure it is almost guaranteed to be good -- Xerox do not make junk. > > > Great; another printer heard about. SO far the Brother at <= > $200 with 7000 > pages at a $30 cartridge sounds better. I've done mostly the > "academic", > plain b&w over the years. Hm, well, then I have had some papers > returned > with feedback marked in blue in OOo. > > There is a fancy Brother color printer [on sale] at Costco for > like $700. (!) > After my heart was shocked back to life, I double-checked. I > can't imagine > what it does for 700 clams, but don't have room for it here anyway. > > Can you use any paper with the laser printers, or does it have to meet a > certain spec? Yes it has to meet a certain spec However, that spec is so widely known and has been so widely known for something like the last 15 years that any paper you buy today will meet it. You literally now would have to special-order copy paper that -wouldn't- meet spec in a laser printer. You probably wouldn't do well with something like newsprint in a laser printer, for example. Also, these days you can get transparencies that won't melt in a laser printer. Of course, it's a little too late for that as overhead projectors have mostly vanished. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 11:53:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6475A16A406 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:53:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@kuhl.co.uk) Received: from queueout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (queueout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CB313C455 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@kuhl.co.uk) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080222114119.DQXI19530.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:41:19 +0000 Received: from [10.2.2.25] (really [81.110.245.249]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080222114013.GNJJ17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[10.2.2.25]> for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:40:13 +0000 Message-ID: <47BEB442.3080709@kuhl.co.uk> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:38:42 +0000 From: Rob User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6vUJrUEqJkYA:15 a=XIDpl3lyf+3fM9R4nCsc9Q==:17 a=5i0yB9Yk-0MScF4HHqUA:9 a=QZqLZY9VCUpaKhi8ImYA:7 a=zrekhfSaAqjt-_iL9Muei1QBzoAA:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 Subject: SMP interrupt problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:53:44 -0000 Hi, I have a system with two dual core CPUS. I have installed 6.3 release and have the SMP kernel running. FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #0: Wed Jan 16 04:45:45 UTC 2008 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2799.22-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4400 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 1073676288 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1037307904 (989 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Jan 16 2008 04:43:12) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 29.0 on pci2 pci4: on pcib2 .. .. .. Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. ad0: 76319MB at ata0-master UDMA100 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Once it is running it seems to just be busy doing interrupts. When "idle" top -C -S shows: last pid: 811; load averages: 1.00, 0.67, 0.31 up 0+00:04:24 07:32:53 65 processes: 6 running, 43 sleeping, 16 waiting CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 43.6% interrupt, 56.4% idle Mem: 7376K Active, 4768K Inact, 18M Wired, 8336K Buf, 963M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME CPU COMMAND 13 root 1 171 52 0K 8K RUN 0 3:43 99.02% idle: cpu0 23 root 1 -52 -171 0K 8K CPU2 2 2:51 85.11% irq9: acpi0 11 root 1 171 52 0K 8K RUN 2 0:55 12.89% idle: cpu2 37 root 1 171 52 0K 8K pgzero 0 0:00 0.00% pagezero 15 root 1 -32 -151 0K 8K WAIT 0 0:00 0.00% swi4: clock s 0 root 1 96 0 0K 0K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% swapper 4 root 1 -8 0 0K 8K - 0 0:00 0.00% g_down 3 root 1 -8 0 0K 8K - 0 0:00 0.00% g_up If anyone has an idea what the problem is I would be grateful for any advice. Regards, Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 12:11:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E4016A400 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.belair@rogers.com) Received: from smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B8CE13C46A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.belair@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 24073 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2008 12:11:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=YWr14QKleXT3bgBilPw5y+TjJ32SG8HRSd4vyT5HfML4SMj8o+U6vMtexDtCtJJnMrgZoip6vllp25hDFh18VXKlvFGIJV3XBlJqwXNyv5FnDbs4CshKHugJfjKyjYC06wQqUm5Gp9VAk8Ej6tXiqpuzpsVzp49u/BBqivYQsgI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.186?) (paul.belair@rogers.com@99.245.244.139 with plain) by smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2008 12:11:53 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cODqA3EVM1lJFz_tboClZI_faXDm39ySBdiYvqSq9DhaMxPO1OdEXN32_zPTtZ60nA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Charlie & To: Modulok , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:09:08 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <884285.14864.qm@web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <64c038660802211808r42475b16p1e68fc11bbf21500@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660802211808r42475b16p1e68fc11bbf21500@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802220709.08391.> Cc: Subject: Re: HP LaserJet not uploading firmware permission denied ulpt0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:11:55 -0000 On February 21, 2008 09:08:58 pm you wrote: > On 2/21/08, Paul Belair wrote: > > I'm using 6.3 FreeBSD > > > > Is there a fix that works. > > > > I have a hp laserjet 1000 printer. > > You've got to be logged in as the 'root' user, (or a user who has > write-access to /dev/ulpt0, which by default is only 'root'). > > 1. Ensure you are the root user. You can check this by executing the > command: id 2. If you are the root user and it still does not work, what is > the output of the command: ls -l /dev/ulpt0 > 3. What is the exact command you're executing to upload the firmware > and what is the exact error it reports? > > -Modulok- Thanks in advance, since you replied I did a fresh install and use kde. I'm awaiting instructions for this machine. crw-r--r-- 1 root operator 0, 129 Feb 22 06:22 /dev/ulpt0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 12:22:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD32216A402 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59F113C447 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1MCM3Yf001298; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:22:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:22:03 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200802221222.m1MCM3aL001297@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: Rob , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: SMP interrupt problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:22:25 -0000 On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:38:42 +0000 Rob wrote: >I have a system with two dual core CPUS. I have installed 6.3 release and have >the SMP kernel running. > >FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #0: Wed Jan 16 04:45:45 UTC 2008 > root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP >Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 >CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2799.22-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 > >Features=0xbfebfbff > Features2=0x4400 > Logical CPUs per core: 2 Actually, the above says you have two *single-core* CPUs with hyperthreading enabled. >real memory = 1073676288 (1023 MB) >avail memory = 1037307904 (989 MB) >ACPI APIC Table: >FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 >MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI >ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard >ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard >ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard >kbd1 at kbdmux0 >ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) >hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Jan 16 2008 04:43:12) >acpi0: on motherboard >acpi0: Power Button (fixed) >Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 >acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 >cpu0: on acpi0 >acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 >cpu1: on acpi0 >cpu2: on acpi0 >cpu3: on acpi0 >pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 >pci0: on pcib0 >pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 >pci2: on pcib1 >pcib2: at device 29.0 on pci2 >pci4: on pcib2 >.. >.. >.. >Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec >hptrr: no controller detected. >ad0: 76319MB at ata0-master UDMA100 >SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! >SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! >SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! > >Once it is running it seems to just be busy doing interrupts. > >When "idle" top -C -S shows: > >last pid: 811; load averages: 1.00, 0.67, 0.31 up 0+00:04:24 07:32:53 >65 processes: 6 running, 43 sleeping, 16 waiting >CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 43.6% interrupt, 56.4% idle >Mem: 7376K Active, 4768K Inact, 18M Wired, 8336K Buf, 963M Free >Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free > > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME CPU COMMAND > 13 root 1 171 52 0K 8K RUN 0 3:43 99.02% idle: cpu0 > 23 root 1 -52 -171 0K 8K CPU2 2 2:51 85.11% irq9: acpi0 Have you looked to see which device(s) you have at IRQ 9? Is there some problem with the device(s)? > 11 root 1 171 52 0K 8K RUN 2 0:55 12.89% idle: cpu2 > 37 root 1 171 52 0K 8K pgzero 0 0:00 0.00% pagezero > 15 root 1 -32 -151 0K 8K WAIT 0 0:00 0.00% swi4: clock s > 0 root 1 96 0 0K 0K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% swapper > 4 root 1 -8 0 0K 8K - 0 0:00 0.00% g_down > 3 root 1 -8 0 0K 8K - 0 0:00 0.00% g_up > >If anyone has an idea what the problem is I would be grateful for any advice. > You deleted part of the startup messages, so we can't see what you have at IRQ 9. Go back and look at either dmesg(1) output or /var/log/messages to find out what device(s) interrupt(s) at IRQ 9. Then check for anything weird about the device activity. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 12:28:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C6E16A407 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3822013C458 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194191CC8B; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:28:36 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:07:43 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47be74b1.pGW9HajDXl3VC5wx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <47be74b1.pGW9HajDXl3VC5wx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802221307.43940.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com Subject: Re: setting X11BASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:28:37 -0000 On Friday 22 February 2008 08:07:29 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > After updating with portsnap, I am getting an insufficiently-helpful > error message: > > On FreeBSD before 6.2 ports system unfortunately can not set > default X11BASE by itself so please help it a bit by setting > X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} in make.conf. On the other hand, if > you do wish to use non-default X11BASE, please set variable > USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE. > > * Am I correct in *guessing* that "make.conf" refers to > /etc/make.conf? Yes. > * What is the value of LOCALBASE? I'm not finding any > definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf. Just set it to ${LOCALBASE} verbatim. Not what you think is the value of the variable LOCALBASE but the word ${LOCALBASE}. > * How do I figure out whether I should set USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE? You don't have to. > * Why does it even need this? The port I am trying to install > ATM (portmaster, to get a handle on the dependency maze) has > nothing to do with X11. Because portmaster checks the status of your ports installation for sanity. > In case it matters, I have not upgraded to the modular Xorg, and > would prefer not to go through all that. "It ain't broke ..." True, but your portstree is now 'broken', because support for how it used to work is being phased out, like the whole X11BASE thing. I think if you upgrade anything that depends on xorg, you'll find dependencies being pulled in that are part of the modular xorg, unless you really know what you're doing. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 12:45:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCAE16A405 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C5F13C447 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376341CC8B; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:45:23 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:45:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802212052.34336.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BE40D4.2030308@forrie.com> In-Reply-To: <47BE40D4.2030308@forrie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802221345.21927.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Forrest Aldrich Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:45:24 -0000 On Friday 22 February 2008 04:26:12 Forrest Aldrich wrote: > Mel wrote: > >Your extensions.ini has duplicate and non-existing modules. Start here: > > > >mv /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp > >sort -u /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp |while read MOD; do > > if test -f /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/${MOD##extension=}; then > > echo $MOD > > fi > >done >/usr/local/etc/extensions.ini > >php -v > > I've done this and still have a problem with PHP5 dumping core: > > root@mail /usr/ports/lang/php5]# php -v > > PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 21 2008 21:51:01) > Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group > Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies > with eAccelerator v0.9.5.2, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by > eAccelerator > with Suhosin v0.9.18, Copyright (c) 2002-2006, by Hardened-PHP Project > Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) > > I tried compiling this without eAccelerator, got the same problem. I'm now > trying it without the Suhosin enhancements to see if that's the problem - > sent a copy of this to the PHP5 port maintainer. Sorry, the internet is global and my pumpkin time was up. Suhosin isn't the problem. What the above did is make sure you have no non-existing modules loading and no modules twice. But the sort order was alphabetic and that's why it still dumps core. Some modules depend on eachother and one needs to be loaded before the other or it goes to hell. Nothing else you can do then figure out the correct order. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 13:05:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706BA16A403 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4095913C4DB for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCFD1CC8B; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:05:09 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:05:07 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802221405.08113.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: patrick Subject: Re: Multiple versions of PHP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:05:10 -0000 On Friday 22 February 2008 04:25:17 patrick wrote: > I've got a new problem... Nope, you've got a shoot yourself in the foot problem. > While I was able to install PHP 5 into a separate location than PHP 4 > (both from ports), See? There's a reason ports use CONFLICTS: the ports are conflicting. I don't know why people advise using prefixes on conflicting ports - it's not a good thing. Actually, it's a bad thing. A really bad thing. This is what jails are for. If the maintainer of the php ports would support having both 4 and 5 installed, he could do it by renaming the CLI binary to php4 and php5 respectively and in the process break many other ports depending on the fact that the cli is called 'php' and more importantly that the pecl-* ports depend on phpize giving them the right information. In short: you'll create a mess. Here's what you do: * Add an IP alias to your network card * Find some free space on the disk * read the instructions in jail(8) * and install php5 (or php4) in the jail. Now you'll have cleanly seperated php installations and no more prefixing, worries about dependencies etc etc. Costs: 400-500M extra diskspace and an alias IP, 2-3 hours of work including the build of dependencies. Gains: too many to mention. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 13:05:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B4316A401 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A743213C4DD for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20080222130530.LYVP19547.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@corinth.polands.org>; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:05:30 +0000 Received: from omnihp.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MD5Txq097996; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:05:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Message-ID: <47BEC899.9030109@polands.org> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:05:29 -0600 From: Doug Poland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: patrick References: <47BDAD75.50801@polands.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/5934/Fri Feb 22 05:34:29 2008 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ionCube PHP Encoder / Loader on FreeBSD 6 / 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:05:31 -0000 patrick wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Doug Poland wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm having problems getting ionCube's PHP loader working on either >> 6.3-RELEASE or 7.0-RC2 (both i386). I've followed the install >> instructions, edited php.ini, installed compat5x and compat6x libraries, >> but just cannot get the loader to work. Both boxes are running PHP 5.2.5. >> >> Have googled and read the ioncube forums. I must be missing something >> obvious. >> >> Thanks in advance... >> > Hi Doug, > > You may get more help if you provide some more details like log > messages or specifics about what is not working. > > Patrick > Hi Patrick, Thank you for the response. My error was in the details, as you suggested. I was using this statement for the loader: zend_extension_ts = /usr/local/www/OllaCart/includes/ioncube/ioncube_loader_fre_5.2_ts.so On my boxes, PHP was built without thread support, so I should have said this: zend_extension = /usr/local/www/OllaCart/includes/ioncube/ioncube_loader_fre_5.2.so Note the (_ts). Now everything is working great. Attention to detail... -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 14:35:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AAD16A400 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chess@chessgriffin.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1915D13C448 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chess@chessgriffin.com) Received: from [192.168.1.40] (unknown [24.199.214.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1982D23E4B4; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:35:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <47BEDDA5.9010504@chessgriffin.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:35:17 -0500 From: Chess Griffin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Da Rock References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> <1203647649.4297.19.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be4e2b.vQK8DB3ioXE6GzW+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1203655600.4297.36.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be5fb2.jZZIZJkadZ96YrS7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1203659785.4297.38.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be8013.1vzfbmuRdzsgw+40%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1203672364.5367.5.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1203672364.5367.5.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig31922E107C72940E2F90D3C2" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:35:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig31922E107C72940E2F90D3C2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Da Rock wrote: > On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 23:56 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>>> You need something that costs too much, breaks down a lot, >>>> and never uses standard parts if they can help it. >>> Mercedes? :) >> Fits the first, dunno about the third. Certainly not the second -- >> Benz are some of the best-engineered and built cars in existence. >> >> Maybe BMW, aka Bunch-a Money Wasted or Bite My Wallet. >> >=20 > I wouldn't insult a quality car like that. Ive heard nothing but good > stories about them and it's something I'd buy myself. Very safe to > drive... >=20 > Ok. How about the new VW beetle? I've heard they're crap- not as good a= s > the original, expensive, poorly designed, break down a lot, and driven > by little teeny boppers with money to waste buying just for the frilly > stuff. Does that fit the bill? >=20 > We'll take a vote- all in favor say aye... :P >=20 Might I suggest a 1983 Renault Alliance? The first car I ever owned and = it was ... what's the word I'm looking for ... ah yes: horrible! i=20 would have traded it for a VW Beetle any day. :-) --=20 Chess Griffin GPG Key: 0x0C7558C3 http://www.chessgriffin.com --------------enig31922E107C72940E2F90D3C2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHvt2oKzd9mAx1WMMRApAXAJ46k9l//FdWHxkdqtuY8q8fB0OvPgCggFJJ KkNrk/ZbqmzWvQtgwMUmy8k= =G0Sg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig31922E107C72940E2F90D3C2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 15:30:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C53216A41A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AF213C468 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3ED565504 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:30:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:30:19 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <56A674D3D7DD31DDC580680D@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <47be74b1.pGW9HajDXl3VC5wx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <47be74b1.pGW9HajDXl3VC5wx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: setting X11BASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:30:21 -0000 --On Thursday, February 21, 2008 23:07:29 -0800 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > After updating with portsnap, I am getting an insufficiently-helpful > error message: > > On FreeBSD before 6.2 ports system unfortunately can not set > default X11BASE by itself so please help it a bit by setting > X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} in make.conf. On the other hand, if > you do wish to use non-default X11BASE, please set variable > USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE. > > * Am I correct in *guessing* that "make.conf" refers to > /etc/make.conf? > Yes. > * What is the value of LOCALBASE? I'm not finding any > definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf. > LOCALBASE is /usr/local unless you've changed it (but then you would already know what it was if you had.) You can find its value in /usr/ports/Mk/ grep "LOCALBASE?=" /usr/ports/Mk/* /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk:LOCALBASE?= /usr/local > * How do I figure out whether I should set USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE? See below. > > * Why does it even need this? The port I am trying to install > ATM (portmaster, to get a handle on the dependency maze) has > nothing to do with X11. > It needs it because there are ports in the x11/xorg system that are dependencies for ports that have nothing to do with a GUI. Libraries are frequently used to incorporate certain functionalities without having to reinvent an already well vetted wheel. > In case it matters, I have not upgraded to the modular Xorg, and > would prefer not to go through all that. "It ain't broke ..." You're going to regret that decision more and more over time. In fact, if you want to stay with the old system, you're probably going to need to put USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE?=/usr/X11R6 in your make.conf file to keep your ports from breaking in interesting ways. All the ports are now being built with the assumption that X11BASE==LOCALBASE. Read /usr/ports/UPDATING carefully before proceeding. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 16:00:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9DD16A403 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.bethere.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B6E13C465 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:00:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (78-86-169-223.zone2.bethere.co.uk [78.86.169.223]) by smtp1.bethere.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id D8AECD023E; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:59:41 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47BEF16D.7090001@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:59:41 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080214) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: punosevac@math.arizona.edu References: <276406.27436.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> <2072.150.135.84.71.1203647284.squirrel@squirrelmail.math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <2072.150.135.84.71.1203647284.squirrel@squirrelmail.math.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:00:57 -0000 punosevac@math.arizona.edu wrote: >> Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>> use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this >>> what is "desktop system" and "server system"? >>> >>> AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both.. >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> FreeBSD as a desktop compared to other OS's? I think there are >> technical, community and attitude differences which prevent FreeBSD from >> competing as a desktop. > > There is at least very strong consensus in the OpenBSD community and much > less in FreeBSD community that the systems are developed by developers for > the developer and alike on the base of the > technical merit not cheap tricks. I am as a non-developer just getting a > free ride. FreeBSD is a free system and doesn't have customers to please. > It is developed by the people in their spare time to the best possible for > their needs. (They are not necessary the same as yours and mine) > > > Those Desktop users that you want to attract would not benefit from FreeBSD > nor FreeBSD community would benefit from them. I wasn't trying to attract users or change anything, just point out that in the context of FreeBSD the difference is not just the different software. It's the difference between what interests the FreeBSD developers and what the average computer user expects. The OP should be aware of this aspect of FreeBSD. Someone else suggested that 'workstation' would be a better word than 'desktop' for FreeBSD. > > >> Support for USB devices seems better in Linux too. The number of times >> people would come in and say why don't you use Linux and I would say >> FreeBSD is better and they would say well plug this USB ethernet adapter >> in and see if it works then, and it wouldn't. > > If you knew how to alter permissions and do auto-mount you would see too. No this is driver support. But yes if it was usb pen drive then devfs.rules, automounter, idesk etc does it. > > >> If you want to do video editing on FreeBSD you can't use the main free >> software application, Cinelerra. It's not ported to FreeBSD and from >> what I've read it won't be - something to do with ALSA drivers I >> believe. > > Please, do not even go there. > ALSA vs OSS story is one of the darkest chapters in the Linux development. > Read this before we go any further > > http://4front-tech.com/hannublog/?p=5 > > >> Also multimedia functionality generally is far more developed >> on Mac and windows. > > yes. So what? OS X is life style operating system. My friends in Apple are > making living by pleasing their customers. That is exactly it - it seems FreeBSD people are not generally interested in multimedia, whereas many 'general public' are. Which is not a complaint, just to let the OP know what to expect from a FreeBSD desktop. > >> I would be really interested to know how the FreeBSD >> kernel compares to the Linux realtime kernel. Are there any recent >> benchmarks? Something like Kris Kennaway's fantastic mySQL benchmarks >> presentation? >> > > What is your point? Your desktop computer is faster than mine? That is > irrelevant for the discussion about FreeBSD on the desktop. Realtime refers to the ability of the computer to present an audio stream and a video stream synchronised in real time and apparently depends on how the kernel does processing, not just how fast your or my computer works. It's very relevant to people who want to work with music or video. > By the way, I proudly say as mostly OpenBSD user that OpenBSD scales the > worst out of all *nix operating systems. :) > > > >> I'm sure none of these things are impossible, simply I get the >> impression they are not very interesting to the people who decide the >> direction of FreeBSD. >> >> There are other differences which I think come down to the overall size >> of the development community. I'm sure FreeBSD has all the components to >> allow a nice icon and directory window appear automagically on the >> desktop when you plug your removeable drive or camera in. > > It does on mine. You have to know how to configure the damn thing. Yeah. I personally can't be bothered but many people would be completely lost if it didn't. And the size of the development community in Linux and probably Microsoft and Apple allows that and all the other configuration to be done for you. > > >> I guess there >> must be some sort of similarity between the number of people doing >> Debian development and the number of people doing FreeBSD development. >> The difference with Linux is that there are hundreds of other dev >> communities taking Debian or whatever as a starting point and >> configuring it for different out-of-the-box use. Hence ubuntu and all >> the others. > > Hence the PC-BSD, DekstopBSD, TrueBSD, RuFreeSBIE, MidnightBSD and all the > others. There are in total over 40 distros based on FreeBSD. At least 10 > of them that I know of have as a stated goal to be customized easy to use > FreeBSD installation on the Desktop. > > > > >> There are comparatively very few desktop development >> projects that take FreeBSD as a starting point. > > > With all due respect you are just ill informed. Look the above. > Sorry to burst your bubble but PC-BSD is much easier to install and run > than your Ubuntu. If PC-BSD/FreeBSD had a native Flash supports and if > they > succeed to automatic creation of PBI for all 18000 ports PC-BSD would > smoke the Ubuntu as the number one Grand Ma Milly OS by a mile. > > > > Cheers, > Predrag > > P.S. I am not trying to participate in a flame war or a troll so this is > going to be my last message on this thread. As you say, enough :) > > >> Hence rolling your own X >> and desktop setup in FreeBSD let alone automounter and a hundred other >> things. >> >> This is not meant to be an anti-FreeBSD rant, I love FreeBSD, it has >> some sort of quality and ease of use which I find hard to define, which >> is different to the 'ease of use' of windows or ubuntu (see I can't even >> give them capital letters) and which I wouldn't swap for anything. But I >> do think there is also some refusal or maybe just lack of resource >> >> >> to engage with a completely different view of what computers are >> for that the vast majority of the computer population has, an attitude >> exemplified by the comment that started me off on this rant. >> >> Chris >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 16:17:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF3B16A409 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [217.20.163.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FC613C44B for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D805543FA1B; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:17:29 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at falcon.cybervisiontech.com Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id DPeE+GrE7wjn; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:17:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from [10.74.70.239] (unknown [193.138.145.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C33E43F86B; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:17:28 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47BEF597.9070503@icyb.net.ua> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:17:27 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071208) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, multimedia-list freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: sbc: isa plug-n-play X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:17:31 -0000 I have an older hardware system with a newer OS on it :-) It's i386 7.0-RC1 on 440BX / Pentium III. I have the following soundcard in ISA slot on the system: sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 pnpid CTL00b2 on isa0 sbc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sbc0: [ITHREAD] pcm0: on sbc0 I believe that the soundcard supports ISA Plug-n-Play. Everything works great. But recently I had an itch to go trough BIOS settings. I spotted one named "Plug-n-Play OS" and it was set to disabled. I thought "what the heck" FreeBSD is a Plug-n-Play OS for a long time, so flipped it to enabled. After that no joy, the soundcard stopped to work. It was detected as before, there is no difference in dmesg whatsoever, but it did not generate any interrupts (verified with vmstat -i). And any playback attempt resulted in zero sound and the following message on console: pcm0:virtual:dsp0.vp0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead So I disabled the option again and everything is fine. Practical conclusion: don't do it. Question of curiosity: what is it that BIOS can do with this card that our driver can not ? -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 16:33:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C322316A404 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9307E13C4FF for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (host243.72.248.152.conversent.net [72.248.152.243]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MGXEfR024493 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:33:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BEF948.8070401@forrie.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:33:12 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802212052.34336.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BE40D4.2030308@forrie.com> <200802221345.21927.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802221345.21927.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5936/Fri Feb 22 09:12:40 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:33:25 -0000 Mel wrote: > On Friday 22 February 2008 04:26:12 Forrest Aldrich wrote: > >> Mel wrote: >> >>> Your extensions.ini has duplicate and non-existing modules. Start here: >>> >>> mv /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp >>> sort -u /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp |while read MOD; do >>> if test -f /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/${MOD##extension=}; then >>> echo $MOD >>> fi >>> done >/usr/local/etc/extensions.ini >>> php -v >>> >> I've done this and still have a problem with PHP5 dumping core: >> >> root@mail /usr/ports/lang/php5]# php -v >> >> PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 21 2008 21:51:01) >> Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group >> Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies >> with eAccelerator v0.9.5.2, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by >> eAccelerator >> with Suhosin v0.9.18, Copyright (c) 2002-2006, by Hardened-PHP Project >> Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) >> >> I tried compiling this without eAccelerator, got the same problem. I'm now >> trying it without the Suhosin enhancements to see if that's the problem - >> sent a copy of this to the PHP5 port maintainer. >> > > Sorry, the internet is global and my pumpkin time was up. > > Suhosin isn't the problem. > What the above did is make sure you have no non-existing modules loading and > no modules twice. But the sort order was alphabetic and that's why it still > dumps core. > Some modules depend on eachother and one needs to be loaded before the other > or it goes to hell. Nothing else you can do then figure out the correct > order. Experience teaches spl, session and mysqli are common culprits. > > spl before sqlite before pdo_sqlite before session before mysqli before > xmlreader > > *usually* works. > I tried this and still having core dumps. This seems like an odd problem that the PHP folk might need to solve somehow. There must be a way to use the php.core file to determine what's causing it to crash... not something I've had much experience with. If I can determine where it's crashing, then I can have a better sense of what needs to be re-ordered. I noticed over time as I upgraded php modules that it did put in duplicate entries... seems like a bug. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it ;-) Forrest From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 16:37:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2939616A401 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AA913C458 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1MGWxJY073397; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:32:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1MGWxfb073396; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:32:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:32:59 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Da Rock Message-ID: <20080222163259.GA73248@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203419902.6470.80.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219125031.R2835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203423219.6470.86.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20080219154929.GA91805@demeter.hydra> <20080220002315.R5514@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BE2A01.5000402@onetel.com> <1203647649.4297.19.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <47be4e2b.vQK8DB3ioXE6GzW+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <1203655600.4297.36.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1203655600.4297.36.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:37:35 -0000 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 02:46:39PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 20:23 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > When defining the differences to my clients as to windows, > > > Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ... > > > > Sheesh! What did VW do to you to deserve an insult like that? > > > > I still see the occasional beetle on the roads. I doubt that would > > be the case if they had to be "rebooted" a couple of times a day. > > Do you have a better suggestion? I'd be happy to use it ;) Maybe a > Sigma? > How about that Trabant (I don't know the seplling) that was made in some eastern bloc country before the wall went down? You were lucky to get from the house to the store in one of those, especially if there was a stop along the way that would require restarting the dead engine because they would not idle. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 16:41:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908D116A404 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA1413C457 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1MGau7D073433; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:36:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1MGasA0073432; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:36:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:36:54 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jonathan McKeown Message-ID: <20080222163654.GB73248@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BDDFC2.20708@mykitchentable.net> <200802221115.00835.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200802221115.00835.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:41:09 -0000 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:15:00AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2008 23:03, D G Teed wrote: > > > For example, no where in this have I heard a peep about backup > > software. Anyone serious about IT is serious about backup. Yet there > > is no support for EMC (Legato) Networker in FreeBSD, and this is why > > our organization is migrating away from this FreeBSD. > > Petty quibble: I suspect that you mean ``there is no support for FreeBSD in > EMC Networker'' rather than the other way round. Picking a backup solution > that can't back up some of your servers, and opting to fix the problem by > getting rid of the servers, seems to me to be doing things the wrong way > round - irrespective of which OS you're forcing yourself to get rid of. > > Of course, EMC Networker may be so much better than any other backup > solution as to justify the work involved in moving working services > to a different platform - I don't know Networker so I can't really > comment, although I agree with most of what you said about making > sure you pick a platform which supports what you're trying to do. > I say most because my own feeling as a sysadmin is that you must > have a very good reason to run more than the bare minimum range > of operating systems you can - which is an argument for moving > away from some platforms if you're already running several. I > am in the process of moving from multiple platforms, ranging > from Windows NT4, through e-smith (server-in-a-box based on > Red Hat), Debian, and FreeBSD, from 4.8 up to date. We are > aiming to end up with a bunch of FreeBSD boxes, all using > a standard build from a central buildserver, plus one or > two boxes running Windows Server 2003 supporting users, > who are all running Windows desktops and applications, > including apps which run on the server, with clients > connecting over the network. It's taken a while but > every time we get rid of an old box my workload in > supporting the rest of the system drops a little. > Note: I'm not saying everyone should standardise > on FreeBSD - that's just what I'm most familiar > with at the moment, and when I started to move > things round we had more FreeBSD servers than > anything else, so it made sense to pick that > and bring the rest into line, where we were > able to, especially because the other OSes > were mainly running on hardware which was > due for replacement soon anyway, so that > the migration could be seen as being in > the ordinary course of maintenance and > not extra load on busy systems staff. > > (Sorry: when I realised I'd started > my reply with a few lines which by > accident were tapering off at the > ends I couldn't resist trying to > see how long I could keep it up. > It's foolish, I know, but it is > a fun exercise in picking your > words carefully and yet still > trying to make sense. If you > aren't reading with a fixed > width font, you may not be > getting the effect of the > layout anyway: so if you > can't see it, I'm sorry > for taking up yet more > of your time, just to > play about with line > lengths and make up > pretty patterns in > your mail reader. > I'll stop now or > at least once I > can taper down > to the length > of the given > name I sign > off with). > > Jonathan > (Whew!) I'm impressed. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 16:44:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7492F16A405 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F10613C43E for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:44:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366F91CC8B; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:44:07 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:44:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802221345.21927.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BEF948.8070401@forrie.com> In-Reply-To: <47BEF948.8070401@forrie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802221744.05717.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Forrest Aldrich Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:44:08 -0000 On Friday 22 February 2008 17:33:12 Forrest Aldrich wrote: > Mel wrote: > > On Friday 22 February 2008 04:26:12 Forrest Aldrich wrote: > >> Mel wrote: > >>> Your extensions.ini has duplicate and non-existing modules. Start here: > >>> > >>> mv /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini > >>> /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp sort -u > >>> /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp |while read MOD; do if test -f > >>> /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/${MOD##extension=}; then echo $MOD > >>> fi > >>> done >/usr/local/etc/extensions.ini > >>> php -v > >> > >> I've done this and still have a problem with PHP5 dumping core: > >> > >> root@mail /usr/ports/lang/php5]# php -v > >> > >> PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 21 2008 21:51:01) > >> Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group > >> Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies > >> with eAccelerator v0.9.5.2, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by > >> eAccelerator > >> with Suhosin v0.9.18, Copyright (c) 2002-2006, by Hardened-PHP > >> Project Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) > >> > >> I tried compiling this without eAccelerator, got the same problem. I'm > >> now trying it without the Suhosin enhancements to see if that's the > >> problem - sent a copy of this to the PHP5 port maintainer. > > > > Sorry, the internet is global and my pumpkin time was up. > > > > Suhosin isn't the problem. > > What the above did is make sure you have no non-existing modules loading > > and no modules twice. But the sort order was alphabetic and that's why it > > still dumps core. > > Some modules depend on eachother and one needs to be loaded before the > > other or it goes to hell. Nothing else you can do then figure out the > > correct order. Experience teaches spl, session and mysqli are common > > culprits. > > > > spl before sqlite before pdo_sqlite before session before mysqli before > > xmlreader > > > > *usually* works. > > I tried this and still having core dumps. > > This seems like an odd problem that the PHP folk might need to solve > somehow. > > There must be a way to use the php.core file to determine what's causing > it to crash... not something I've had much experience with. If I can > determine where it's crashing, then I can have a better sense of what > needs to be re-ordered. You can, if you see this: (gdb) bt #0 0x28e4fe5c in ?? () #1 0x2855bb83 in pthread_mutex_destroy () from /lib/libc.so.6 ====> #2 0x285e74fd in __tcf_1 () from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 #3 0x2855a97a in __cxa_finalize () from /lib/libc.so.6 ====> #4 0x285e6e4a in __do_global_dtors_aux () from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 #5 0x2867a204 in _fini () from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 In this case, it was the pspell module. __do_global_dtors_aux is usually the problem - destroying the globals it created. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 16:52:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0148716A403 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A3513C455 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (host243.72.248.152.conversent.net [72.248.152.243]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MGqQos024651 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:52:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BEFDCA.4000202@forrie.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:52:26 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802221345.21927.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BEF948.8070401@forrie.com> <200802221744.05717.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802221744.05717.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5936/Fri Feb 22 09:12:40 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:52:35 -0000 Mel wrote: > > You can, if you see this: > (gdb) bt > #0 0x28e4fe5c in ?? () > #1 0x2855bb83 in pthread_mutex_destroy () from /lib/libc.so.6 > ====> #2 0x285e74fd in __tcf_1 () from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 > #3 0x2855a97a in __cxa_finalize () from /lib/libc.so.6 > ====> #4 0x285e6e4a in __do_global_dtors_aux () > from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 > #5 0x2867a204 in _fini () from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 > > In this case, it was the pspell module. __do_global_dtors_aux is usually the > problem - destroying the globals it created. > Seems I cannot use GDB on this due to : This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"..."/usr/local/etc/php/php.core": not in executable format: File format not recognized I tried doing a "strings -a" to peek around, but it doesn't tell you much. Thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 16:55:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B45016A400 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FA713C469 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (host243.72.248.152.conversent.net [72.248.152.243]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MGtcI4024699 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:55:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BEFE8A.4050501@forrie.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:55:38 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802221345.21927.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BEF948.8070401@forrie.com> <200802221744.05717.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802221744.05717.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5936/Fri Feb 22 09:12:40 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:55:48 -0000 Sorry Mel, I should have looked at the manpage before replying. Here is the output I got: # gdb /usr/local/bin/php php.core GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"...(no debugging symbols found)... Core was generated by `php'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypt.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypt.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/eaccelerator.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/eaccelerator.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/bz2.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/bz2.so Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libbz2.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libbz2.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/calendar.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/calendar.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pcre.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pcre.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/ctype.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/ctype.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/spl.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/spl.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/curl.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/curl.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libssl.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libssl.so.4 Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypto.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypto.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/dom.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/dom.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/exif.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/exif.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/filter.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/filter.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/ftp.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/ftp.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/gd.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/gd.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libt1.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libt1.so.5 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXpm.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXpm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. 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Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/gmp.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libgmp.so.7...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libgmp.so.7 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/hash.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/hash.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/iconv.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/iconv.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/imap.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libc-client4.so.9...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libc-client4.so.9 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpam.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpam.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/simplexml.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/simplexml.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mhash.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mhash.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libmhash.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libmhash.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mcrypt.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mcrypt.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libmcrypt.so.8...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libmcrypt.so.8 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libltdl.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libltdl.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/ncurses.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/ncurses.so Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpanel.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpanel.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/libncurses.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libncurses.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/json.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/json.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/openssl.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/openssl.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/sqlite.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/sqlite.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pdo.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pdo.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pdo_sqlite.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pdo_sqlite.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/session.so...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/session.so Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #0 0x28f027c3 in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0x28f027c3 in ?? () #1 0x285418fe in _UTF8_init () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x285c6060 in _thread_autoinit_dummy_decl_stub () from /lib/libc.so.6 #3 0x00000000 in ?? () #4 0x28253d91 in free () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #5 0x0814ee1a in zend_hash_apply_deleter () #6 0x0814ee91 in zend_hash_graceful_reverse_destroy () #7 0x081442d0 in zend_shutdown () #8 0x08104d70 in php_module_shutdown () #9 0x081c8e4c in main () (gdb) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 17:02:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 36ECD16A406; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:02:02 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20080222170202.36ECD16A406@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:02:02 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:02:02 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 17:02:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 3CA8016A408; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:02:02 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20080222170202.3CA8016A408@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:02:02 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:02:02 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 17:04:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0BA16A406 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97A213C478 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MH15xY004449; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:01:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1MH0x9P004446; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:01:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:00:59 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Brian A. Seklecki" In-Reply-To: <1203698632.10391.130.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Message-ID: <20080222180044.D4445@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47A6287C.9040902@gmail.com> <20080203233311.X7800@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203698632.10391.130.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Gunther Mayer , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: automatic fsck on gmirror failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:04:41 -0000 > > $ grep -i fsck /etc/defaults/rc.conf > fsck_y_enable="NO" # Set to YES to do fsck -y if the initial preen > fails. > > gmirror(8) / geom(8) should automatically remove (degrade) components > with bad I/O operations after a certain threshold, but I'm pretty sure > it doesn't. yes it does From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 17:09:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF9116A409 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from mail.digitalfreaks.org (arbitor.digitalfreaks.org [216.151.95.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF8313C4EA for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:09:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.digitalfreaks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3115E1824B; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:52:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.digitalfreaks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.digitalfreaks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 99703-01-13; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:52:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.161] (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.digitalfreaks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E568182A4; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:44:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080203233311.X7800@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47A6287C.9040902@gmail.com> <20080203233311.X7800@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:43:52 -0500 Message-Id: <1203698632.10391.130.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2 Cc: Gunther Mayer , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: automatic fsck on gmirror failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:09:44 -0000 On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 23:39 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > it failed while rebuilding with badly written data on the disk that was > used, while other rebuild. > > now it can't read it. > > if you are sure that it doesn't pass through fsck before second reboot, do > the following. > > 1) turn off gmirror > > 2) clear gmirror header on both providers > > 3) run fsck the other drive (not ad6, but the other used on mirror). > Also don't forget about: $ grep -i fsck /etc/defaults/rc.conf fsck_y_enable="NO" # Set to YES to do fsck -y if the initial preen fails. gmirror(8) / geom(8) should automatically remove (degrade) components with bad I/O operations after a certain threshold, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't. ~BAS > 4) pray > > 5) after fsck will end it successfully (it should), create gmirror with > the disk you checked > > gmirror label gmirror-name /dev/thedisk > > 6) reboot and start the system. should go well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 17:21:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B8E16A406 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2AC13C44B for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC12F1CC8B; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:21:13 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:21:12 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802221744.05717.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BEFE8A.4050501@forrie.com> In-Reply-To: <47BEFE8A.4050501@forrie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802221821.12561.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Forrest Aldrich Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:21:14 -0000 On Friday 22 February 2008 17:55:38 Forrest Aldrich wrote: > Sorry Mel, I should have looked at the manpage before replying. Here is > the output I got: > > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/eaccelerator.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/bz2.so...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > #0 0x28f027c3 in ?? () > #1 0x285418fe in _UTF8_init () from /lib/libc.so.6 > #2 0x285c6060 in _thread_autoinit_dummy_decl_stub () from /lib/libc.so.6 ===> > #3 0x00000000 in ?? () ===> > #4 0x28253d91 in free () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > #5 0x0814ee1a in zend_hash_apply_deleter () > #6 0x0814ee91 in zend_hash_graceful_reverse_destroy () > #7 0x081442d0 in zend_shutdown () > #8 0x08104d70 in php_module_shutdown () > #9 0x081c8e4c in main () Could you disable the accelerator? Can't say I've seen this one before. Just add a semi colon ';' in front of the module, leave the order in tact. If it still dumps core, then the imap one. You might have to recompile php and all the modules with debugging support to find out what's being free'd there. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 17:24:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0485716A408 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A155E13C47E for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MHKgvQ004458; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:20:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1MHKc9t004455; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:20:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:20:38 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Brian A. Seklecki" In-Reply-To: <1203698632.10391.130.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Message-ID: <20080222181417.F4445@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47A6287C.9040902@gmail.com> <20080203233311.X7800@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203698632.10391.130.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Gunther Mayer , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: automatic fsck on gmirror failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:24:16 -0000 > gmirror(8) / geom(8) should automatically remove (degrade) components > with bad I/O operations after a certain threshold, but I'm pretty sure > it doesn't. but i'm absolutely sure it does because it did several times for me From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 17:26:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571A916A404 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2771913C468 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (host243.72.248.152.conversent.net [72.248.152.243]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MHQiS5055416 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:26:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BF05D4.6010203@forrie.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:26:44 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802221744.05717.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BEFE8A.4050501@forrie.com> <200802221821.12561.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802221821.12561.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5937/Fri Feb 22 10:13:41 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:26:51 -0000 Mel wrote: > [ .. ] > Could you disable the accelerator? Can't say I've seen this one before. Just > add a semi colon ';' in front of the module, leave the order in tact. If it > still dumps core, then the imap one. > > You might have to recompile php and all the modules with debugging support to > find out what's being free'd there. > Interesting, the extension=eaccelerator.so line went missing in /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini, so I added it. NOW all I get is this: # php -v PHP Fatal error: [eAccelerator] eAccelerator 0.9.5.2 can not be loaded twice in Unknown on line 0 but it's not listed twice there. I'll keep looking around.... do you know where it might be reloading this? Thanks, Forrest From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 17:31:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA3816A406 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799F713C469 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (host243.72.248.152.conversent.net [72.248.152.243]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MHVENm063644 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:31:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BF06E2.1090208@forrie.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:31:14 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802221744.05717.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BEFE8A.4050501@forrie.com> <200802221821.12561.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802221821.12561.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5937/Fri Feb 22 10:13:41 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:31:20 -0000 Mel, I found the duplicate entry, which was in /usr/local/etc/php.ini: ; Zend Extensions zend_extension="/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/eaccelerator.so" eaccelerator.shm_size="16" eaccelerator.cache_dir="/var/eaccelerator" eaccelerator.enable="1" eaccelerator.optimizer="1" eaccelerator.check_mtime="1" eaccelerator.debug="0" eaccelerator.filter="" eaccelerator.shm_max="0" eaccelerator.shm_ttl="0" eaccelerator.shm_prune_period="0" eaccelerator.shm_only="0" eaccelerator.compress="1" eaccelerator.compress_level="9" I commented out the zend_extension, leaving it in /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini. I'll try commenting out imap next. Still getting: # php -v PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 21 2008 22:45:11) Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies with eAccelerator v0.9.5.2, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by eAccelerator Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 17:37:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E780E16A401 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5462C13C46A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (host243.72.248.152.conversent.net [72.248.152.243]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MHax1c080259 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:37:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BF083B.2050405@forrie.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:36:59 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802221744.05717.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BEFE8A.4050501@forrie.com> <200802221821.12561.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802221821.12561.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5937/Fri Feb 22 10:13:41 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:37:12 -0000 I took a shortcut and decided to comment out all extensions but these: extension=mysql.so extension=mysqli.so extension=eaccelerator.so Now I run php -v and get this: # php -v PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so' - /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so: Undefined symbol "spl_ce_RuntimeException" in Unknown on line 0 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/eaccelerator.so: Undefined symbol "php_session_register_module" The mysqli.so is there: -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 116892 Feb 21 23:45 /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so Could be I need to enable another extension to satisfy the last issue with the variable, though I wonder if this is a hint at what might be wrong... Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 17:47:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CEB16A402 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from mail.digitalfreaks.org (arbitor.digitalfreaks.org [216.151.95.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061FD13C442 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: by mail.digitalfreaks.org (Postfix, from userid 1022) id 222FA182DF; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.digitalfreaks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F56182D7; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:46:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:46:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian A. Seklecki" X-X-Sender: lavalamp@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080222180044.D4445@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Message-ID: <20080222124538.J83174@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org> References: <47A6287C.9040902@gmail.com> <20080203233311.X7800@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203698632.10391.130.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <20080222180044.D4445@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Gunther Mayer , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: automatic fsck on gmirror failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:47:01 -0000 On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> $ grep -i fsck /etc/defaults/rc.conf >> fsck_y_enable="NO" # Set to YES to do fsck -y if the initial preen >> fails. >> >> gmirror(8) / geom(8) should automatically remove (degrade) components >> with bad I/O operations after a certain threshold, but I'm pretty sure >> it doesn't. > > yes it does Maybe my experiences didn't his the threshold. I'm checking the code now. The threshold is likely compile-time adjusable. ~BAS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 17:54:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFAD16A416 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:54:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjenkins@centurygaming.biz) Received: from cns1.transaria.net (cns1.transaria.net [IPv6:2001:1940:1:1::24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55AEE13C4E1 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:54:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjenkins@centurygaming.biz) Received: from RyanPC ([69.51.117.66]) by cns1.transaria.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m1MHsPIW025380; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:54:25 GMT From: "Ryan Jenkins" To: "'Jerry McAllister'" References: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> <47BA275C.7030006@pacific.net.sg> <20080219005835.GA42481@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <001501c874db$184e8cc0$39c8a8c0@cg.local> <20080222005053.GA63304@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:57:03 -0700 Message-ID: <000701c8757c$55524a70$39c8a8c0@cg.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Importance: Low Thread-Index: Ach07Y/gdwsuARqdT26LYjVOgheZdgAjr4qA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <20080222005053.GA63304@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Cc: 'Erich Dollansky' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:54:27 -0000 Hello, Thanks for all of the Help!!! Ryan Jenkins P.O. Box 21138 P: 406 896-9900 F: 406 896-0045 C: 406 208-8193 Email: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz Confidentiality Statement: This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:51 PM To: Ryan Jenkins Cc: 'Jerry McAllister'; 'Erich Dollansky'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!! On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 03:42:52PM -0700, Ryan Jenkins wrote: > Jerry, or Erich, > > I am wondering how I could Download the FreeBSD OS to a disk, so I > could try and install it on the computers I am trying to get to work? > Could you give me some pointers on the process? This is well documented in the FreeBSD Handbook which you can see online by going to the FreeBSD web site. It you are going to install from CD, then you can download the ISO[s] using anonymous ftp from ftp.freebsd.org You will need to fish around (cd) in their directories a bit to find the ISOs, but what you want is disc1 for version 6.3. Download it to a machine with a CD burner. Then burn the image as it is. Don't try to convert it to an ISO. It is already an ISO. If you do not have network access, then you will need to download the first two CD ISOs and use them. Plug in the CD and boot it and the adventure begins. If you must boot from floppies, then download the two floppy images and write them to formatted floppies as per the handbook instructions. Boot them and go from there. You will need network access. ////jerry > > Ryan Jenkins > > P.O. Box 21138 > P: 406 896-9900 > F: 406 896-0045 > C: 406 208-8193 > Email: > rjenkins@centurygaming.biz > > Confidentiality Statement: > This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. > Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the > addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail > message or any information contained in the message. If you have > received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by > replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:59 PM > To: Erich Dollansky > Cc: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!! > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:48:28AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, HP, IBM, Lenovo, Toshiba plus all the PC built > > around standard components will do. > > > > If you would be a bit more specific about price, speed and function > > of the machine, we could help you better. > > Yes. Any servers from those vendors will work. > Plus, there are a couple of companies that claim to produce systems > expecially for running FreeBSD servers. > > Some are: http://www.freedomtc.com/ > http://www.ixsystems.com/ > http://www.ironsystems.com/index.asp > > They don't limit themselves to FreeBSD, but they claim support for it. > > ////jerry > > > > > > You might will have problems getting certain machines without > > operating system. > > > > Erich > > > > Ryan Jenkins wrote: > > >Hello, > > > > > >I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD > > >Operating System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. > > >Right now I am having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture > > >that can make a system that uses FreeBSD. I currently have found a > > >product from MPC or Micron/Gateway that creates systems with no > > >Operating System, but my programmers are having a hard time with > > >getting the software loaded on the system. Can you please help me > > >find a supplier that builds Desktop or All-in-One computers that > > >will > operate FreeBSD. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ryan Jenkins > > > > > > P.O. Box 21138 > > > P: 406 896-9900 > > > F: 406 896-0045 > > > C: 406 208-8193 > > > Email: > > >rjenkins@centurygaming.biz > > > > > > > > > > > >Confidentiality Statement: > > >This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be > privileged. > > >Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the > > >addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the > > >e-mail message or any information contained in the message. If you > > >have received this e-mail message in error, please advise the > > >sender by replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >-- > > >--- > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 17:56:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C4F16A402 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:56:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from mail.digitalfreaks.org (arbitor.digitalfreaks.org [216.151.95.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5EF13C45A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:56:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: by mail.digitalfreaks.org (Postfix, from userid 1022) id 7B0A618260; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:56:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.digitalfreaks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0013F1820A; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:56:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:56:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian A. Seklecki" X-X-Sender: lavalamp@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080222181417.F4445@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Message-ID: <20080222124909.Q83174@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org> References: <47A6287C.9040902@gmail.com> <20080203233311.X7800@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1203698632.10391.130.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <20080222181417.F4445@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Gunther Mayer , questions@freebsd.org, Bill Moran , Chad Ziccardi Subject: Re: automatic fsck on gmirror failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:56:39 -0000 On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> gmirror(8) / geom(8) should automatically remove (degrade) components >> with bad I/O operations after a certain threshold, but I'm pretty sure >> it doesn't. > > but i'm absolutely sure it does because it did several times for me > Finally I had some time to research. 939 of geom_mirror -- kern.geom.mirror.disconnect_on_failure -- It's a newer 6.x thing apparently: Behavior is not tunable. It happens on a single failure. I ask about tunable behavior because some cheap IDE (Maxtor) disks can fail, then recover. 6.3/amd64: [root@violenjiger-vm /usr/src-RELENG_6_3]# sysctl -a|grep -i kern.geom.mirror kern.geom.mirror.sync_requests: 2 kern.geom.mirror.disconnect_on_failure: 1 kern.geom.mirror.idletime: 5 kern.geom.mirror.timeout: 4 kern.geom.mirror.debug: 0 But: FreeBSD wingspan 5.5-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE-p10 #0: Fri Jan 12 seklecki@wingspan:/home/seklecki$ sysctl -a|grep -i kern.geom.mirror kern.geom.mirror.debug: 0 kern.geom.mirror.timeout: 0 kern.geom.mirror.idletime: 5 kern.geom.mirror.reqs_per_sync: 5 kern.geom.mirror.syncs_per_sec: 1000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 18:10:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE9316A400 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC4013C478 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1MI8dCE018452; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:08:40 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.4 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m1MI8dCE018452 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dkim=hardfail (SSP) header.i=unknown Message-ID: <47BF0FA7.4080107@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:08:39 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Forrest Aldrich References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802221744.05717.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BEFE8A.4050501@forrie.com> <200802221821.12561.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BF083B.2050405@forrie.com> In-Reply-To: <47BF083B.2050405@forrie.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:08:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/5937/Fri Feb 22 15:13:41 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:10:02 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Forrest Aldrich wrote: > I took a shortcut and decided to comment out all extensions but these: > > extension=mysql.so > extension=mysqli.so > extension=eaccelerator.so > > Now I run php -v and get this: > > # php -v > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so' - > /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so: Undefined symbol > "spl_ce_RuntimeException" in Unknown on line 0 > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/eaccelerator.so: > Undefined symbol "php_session_register_module" > > The mysqli.so is there: > > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 116892 Feb 21 23:45 > /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so > > Could be I need to enable another extension to satisfy the last issue > with the variable, though I wonder if this is a hint at what might be > wrong... Hmmm... I've been thinking about methods to make sure the load order of PHP modules avoids this sort of problem. Can you try the following and see if it helps? # cp /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini{,.bak} # cd /usr/local/lib/php/20060613 # lorder *.so | tsort | tail -r | sed -e 's/^/extension=/' > /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini Oh, and yes, you do need the php5-spl module to be installed. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHvw+n8Mjk52CukIwRCEbjAJ9EUwIAJ9m9Y8riNvZd/EHIBbt+0wCfat7r /CMlt9c6goJwWKUwIspr1pE= =Oke5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 18:10:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C417116A405 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBAC13C4FF for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A261CD38; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:10:22 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:10:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802221821.12561.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BF083B.2050405@forrie.com> In-Reply-To: <47BF083B.2050405@forrie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802221910.21532.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Forrest Aldrich Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:10:23 -0000 On Friday 22 February 2008 18:36:59 Forrest Aldrich wrote: > I took a shortcut and decided to comment out all extensions but these: > > extension=mysql.so > extension=mysqli.so > extension=eaccelerator.so > > Now I run php -v and get this: > > # php -v > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library > '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so' - > /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so: Undefined symbol > "spl_ce_RuntimeException" in Unknown on line 0 ^^^ Mysqli needs spl. It uses it's exception code among others. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 18:14:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF3D16A4A0 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09EC13C4D1 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (dsl092-075-097.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.75.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MIE9E3044408 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:14:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BF10F1.8080202@forrie.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:14:09 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802221821.12561.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BF083B.2050405@forrie.com> <200802221910.21532.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802221910.21532.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5937/Fri Feb 22 10:13:41 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:14:19 -0000 Mel wrote: > On Friday 22 February 2008 18:36:59 Forrest Aldrich wrote: > >> I took a shortcut and decided to comment out all extensions but these: >> >> extension=mysql.so >> extension=mysqli.so >> extension=eaccelerator.so >> >> Now I run php -v and get this: >> >> # php -v >> PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library >> '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so' - >> /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so: Undefined symbol >> "spl_ce_RuntimeException" in Unknown on line 0 >> > ^^^ > Mysqli needs spl. It uses it's exception code among others. > I'm going to remove all of the PHP5 code and extensions and start all over again and see what happens.... Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 19:14:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EE016A502 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:14:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a-bb@gmx.net) Received: from pd2mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E71313C46A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a-bb@gmx.net) Received: from pd3mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr4so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.180]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JWN009PZMRDHC4R@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:14:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd3mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JWN00J1SMRA8O00@pd3mr4so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:14:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([24.68.224.245]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JWN00FG4MQY3030@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:13:46 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:14:56 -0800 From: Andrew Bradford In-reply-to: <200802212131.16581.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> To: Mel Message-id: <47BF1F30.4020103@gmx.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <47BCC9C6.9050501@gmx.net> <47BD3A0B.2030806@locolomo.org> <47BDD1D5.6060003@gmx.net> <200802212131.16581.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting FS read-only for specific user (or root) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:14:04 -0000 Mel wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2008 20:32:37 Andrew Bradford wrote: > >> Erik Norgaard escribió: >> >>> I assume the reasoning for this is you want to preserve permissions >>> and attributes on your backup, so you can't solve this simply by >>> setting permissions appropriately. >>> >> Yes, exactly. Users need to be able to see their own backups, and >> nobody else's. >> > > Isn't this what acl's are for? See setfacl(8). I haven't looked into it in > great detail but seems to me that if you make a subdir owned by the user for > each backup root for that user and set the acl to only be accessible by user, > it should work. > > After playing around with this for a bit, I took Erik's suggestion of mounting the backup directory rw in a root-specific area. I didn't think it would work, but my understanding of the permission structure in UNIX is flawed, and it does work :) The setup, for those interested, is as follows: disk2 mounted read-write in /root/.backup /root/.backup mounted using nullfs read-only in /backups drwx------ root wheel /root drwxr-xr-x root wheel /root/.backup drwxr-xr-x root wheel /backups This way, the permissions on /root prevents normal users from writing to the backup mount underneath it, even though they may own files and have write permissions on those files. The permissions of the mount point allow users to view the contents and restore files, but not write to it because the nullfs mount (/backups) is read-only. General users are unable to write to the read-write mount point (/root/.backup) because the permission of the parent directory (/root) is 700. This allows the backup process to write to the backup filesystem, yet still prevents normal users from writing to it. I think this setup could be improved as I'm simply relying on file permissions to keep the backup filesystem read-only for normal users. The problem is not having the ability to mount a filesystem read-write for a specific user -- regardless of the permissions of files on that filesystem. Thanks Erik and Mel for the help with this! Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 19:14:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE66C16A408 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B9913C442 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (dsl092-075-097.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.75.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MJEAIo008774 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:14:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BF1F02.5020200@forrie.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:14:10 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802221821.12561.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BF083B.2050405@forrie.com> <200802221910.21532.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802221910.21532.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5938/Fri Feb 22 13:08:07 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:14:21 -0000 Mel, I recompiled php5 with debugging enabled; but it seems the FreeBSD php5-extensions build ignores this flag and compiles the extensions as-is. No option in their makefile. Anyway, here's the output... I don't think it really says much than before. Thanks, Forrest # php -v PHP Warning: PHP Startup: pdf: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: session: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: bz2: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: calendar: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: ctype: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: curl: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: pcre: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: SimpleXML: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: SPL: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: dom: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: exif: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: filter: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: ftp: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: gd: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: gettext: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: gmp: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: hash: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: iconv: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: imap: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: json: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: mcrypt: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: mhash: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: mysql: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHP compiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) [root@mail /usr/local/lib/php]# gdb /usr/local/bin/php php.core GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"... Core was generated by `php'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypt.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypt.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #0 0x2870a7c3 in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0x2870a7c3 in ?? () #1 0x285698fe in _UTF8_init () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x285ee060 in _thread_autoinit_dummy_decl_stub () from /lib/libc.so.6 #3 0xbfbfe8d4 in ?? () #4 0x2828fd3e in elf_hash () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #5 0x0813aa97 in php_error_cb (type=32, error_filename=0x827fb03 "Unknown", error_lineno=0, format=0x8262067 "%s", args=0xbfbfe4e8 "L\235*\b") at /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.5/main/main.c:822 #6 0x0818e12d in zend_error (type=32, format=0x8262067 "%s") at /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.5/Zend/zend.c:1048 #7 0x0813a821 in php_verror (docref=0x0, params=0x8261ac1 "", type=32, format=0x8254848 "Unable to load dynamic library '%s' - %s", args=0xbfbfe58c "\230¡*\b\200\a+( \224*\b") at /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.5/main/main.c:723 #8 0x0813a886 in php_error_docref0 (docref=0x0, type=32, format=0x8254848 "Unable to load dynamic library '%s' - %s") at /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.5/main/main.c:735 #9 0x080c64b0 in php_dl (file=0x82a2f08, type=1, return_value=0xbfbfe5f0, start_now=0) at /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.5/ext/standard/dl.c:152 #10 0x081426e5 in php_load_function_extension_cb (arg=0x82a2f08) at /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.5/main/php_ini.c:235 #11 0x08183b5f in zend_llist_apply (l=0x829ee1c, func=0x81426b7 ) at /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.5/Zend/zend_llist.c:375 #12 0x081433e1 in php_ini_register_extensions () at /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.5/main/php_ini.c:590 #13 0x0813cabb in php_module_startup (sf=0x829d620, additional_modules=0x0, num_additional_modules=0) at /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.5/main/main.c:1839 #14 0x081ff825 in php_cli_startup (sapi_module=0x829d620) at /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.5/sapi/cli/php_cli.c:358 #15 0x082004f1 in main (argc=2, argv=0xbfbfe8c8) at /usr/ports/lang/php5/work/php-5.2.5/sapi/cli/php_cli.c:717 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 19:23:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905A216A47C for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B99513C564 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MJN83B004868 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:23:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1MJN5kW004865 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:23:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:23:05 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080222202127.K4838@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: tape splitter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:23:19 -0000 anybody know program to split data (from stdin) on tapes like that something|splittotapes /dev/sa0 and then concattapes /dev/sa0 |something i know dump do this, but i need other thing to be written to more than 1 tape. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 20:22:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F4216A407 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8210E13C4F4 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (dsl092-075-097.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.75.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MKM3fX001376 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:22:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BF2EEA.7070505@forrie.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:22:02 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080220) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47BD8BE3.8070209@forrie.com> <200802221821.12561.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47BF083B.2050405@forrie.com> <200802221910.21532.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802221910.21532.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92/5938/Fri Feb 22 13:08:07 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:22:14 -0000 Mel, etc., I downgraded my system back to MySQL-4.1 (where I had updated to MySQL-5.1) and this has solved the problem. Lesson: don't upgrade your FreeBSD-6.3/Apache-2.0 system to MySQL-5.x without making sure it works first ;-) Of course, there was no way I could have predicted this problem. I suspect it would work fine on Linux, however. I didn't really "solve" the problem specifically - in terms of the error, but this worked. Thanks for your help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 22:15:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B276A16A402 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjenkins@centurygaming.biz) Received: from cns1.transaria.net (cns1.transaria.net [IPv6:2001:1940:1:1::24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CECC13C442 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjenkins@centurygaming.biz) Received: from RyanPC ([69.51.117.66]) by cns1.transaria.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m1MMFZFg030939; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:15:35 GMT From: "Ryan Jenkins" To: "'Jerry McAllister'" References: <007501c8728d$31825780$39c8a8c0@cg.local> <47BA275C.7030006@pacific.net.sg> <20080219005835.GA42481@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <001501c874db$184e8cc0$39c8a8c0@cg.local> <20080222005053.GA63304@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:17:58 -0700 Message-ID: <001c01c875a0$c80d9690$39c8a8c0@cg.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Importance: Low In-Reply-To: <20080222005053.GA63304@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Thread-Index: Ach07Y/gdwsuARqdT26LYjVOgheZdgAstg7Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Cc: 'Erich Dollansky' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0000 Jerry or Erich, Do you know if FreeBSD will support the following Chipset and Soft Bridge Controller? Chipset: Intel Q965 Soft Bridge Controller: Intel ICH8DO Ryan Jenkins P.O. Box 21138 P: 406 896-9900 F: 406 896-0045 C: 406 208-8193 Email: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz Confidentiality Statement: This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:51 PM To: Ryan Jenkins Cc: 'Jerry McAllister'; 'Erich Dollansky'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!! On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 03:42:52PM -0700, Ryan Jenkins wrote: > Jerry, or Erich, > > I am wondering how I could Download the FreeBSD OS to a disk, so I > could try and install it on the computers I am trying to get to work? > Could you give me some pointers on the process? This is well documented in the FreeBSD Handbook which you can see online by going to the FreeBSD web site. It you are going to install from CD, then you can download the ISO[s] using anonymous ftp from ftp.freebsd.org You will need to fish around (cd) in their directories a bit to find the ISOs, but what you want is disc1 for version 6.3. Download it to a machine with a CD burner. Then burn the image as it is. Don't try to convert it to an ISO. It is already an ISO. If you do not have network access, then you will need to download the first two CD ISOs and use them. Plug in the CD and boot it and the adventure begins. If you must boot from floppies, then download the two floppy images and write them to formatted floppies as per the handbook instructions. Boot them and go from there. You will need network access. ////jerry > > Ryan Jenkins > > P.O. Box 21138 > P: 406 896-9900 > F: 406 896-0045 > C: 406 208-8193 > Email: > rjenkins@centurygaming.biz > > Confidentiality Statement: > This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. > Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the > addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail > message or any information contained in the message. If you have > received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by > replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu] > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:59 PM > To: Erich Dollansky > Cc: rjenkins@centurygaming.biz; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!! > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:48:28AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, HP, IBM, Lenovo, Toshiba plus all the PC built > > around standard components will do. > > > > If you would be a bit more specific about price, speed and function > > of the machine, we could help you better. > > Yes. Any servers from those vendors will work. > Plus, there are a couple of companies that claim to produce systems > expecially for running FreeBSD servers. > > Some are: http://www.freedomtc.com/ > http://www.ixsystems.com/ > http://www.ironsystems.com/index.asp > > They don't limit themselves to FreeBSD, but they claim support for it. > > ////jerry > > > > > > You might will have problems getting certain machines without > > operating system. > > > > Erich > > > > Ryan Jenkins wrote: > > >Hello, > > > > > >I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD > > >Operating System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. > > >Right now I am having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture > > >that can make a system that uses FreeBSD. I currently have found a > > >product from MPC or Micron/Gateway that creates systems with no > > >Operating System, but my programmers are having a hard time with > > >getting the software loaded on the system. Can you please help me > > >find a supplier that builds Desktop or All-in-One computers that > > >will > operate FreeBSD. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ryan Jenkins > > > > > > P.O. Box 21138 > > > P: 406 896-9900 > > > F: 406 896-0045 > > > C: 406 208-8193 > > > Email: > > >rjenkins@centurygaming.biz > > > > > > > > > > > >Confidentiality Statement: > > >This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be > privileged. > > >Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the > > >addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the > > >e-mail message or any information contained in the message. If you > > >have received this e-mail message in error, please advise the > > >sender by replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >-- > > >--- > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 22:59:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3525F16A405 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from new2xen@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD54213C45A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from new2xen@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 28so930636hub.8 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:59:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=+D6Xs0sgHl/s5P7gwRhDeV3V32KzdgR9KivBrIXnWmY=; b=mNEvuPqhZMMvir0wEyABvzFePhjjO70N7Zu33BR0JeHPtwA7InSjqVadFG7Etp0+neqbwqYO70NpSoSt3Sl68Jx0fzxAQLTR6LyiBSNs4bVVpJnYsnj0UeCNxEyYsZTiQff7nj5GK75rLSK2yIdJXahmiZ42VDomf59g1FGzGCA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=L2e2xZSpRsrzGvKiW46uUA4Hpucj6rDxXuX4yeHek6ZQ/E49cwfqfMi1RGeYdp0HeXLKDL070rC2jQ8ljleaO7DAQuA3htIyjkiz0kKRcFV2T/Zdh5/cw+e26F2vlBbiTuJ0mZlA4QpBHMIInwKI3uqZFnjZ6NghbFd2QbKenNU= Received: by 10.150.155.1 with SMTP id c1mr199081ybe.155.1203720229060; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.57.15 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:43:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <13d67a800802221443w11fa3755wa0db0c09d07b4d48@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:43:49 -0800 From: "vincenzo romero" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD diskless workstation and over the network installation via PXE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:59:53 -0000 Hello, Am new to FreeBSD and relatively new to linux; I have a CentOS 5.1 PXE/tftpd/dhcpd server; I'd like it to be the build/PXE server where a bunch of 1U clients could PXE boot and run: 1. diskless over NFS-Root In googling, seems like there is a clone script that preps and lets you generate a root file system structure and let your clients boot off the network. I checked the Free BSD Handbook (Chapter 29) where extensive documentation on setup is outlined, but it assumes that the PXE/TFTP/NFS/DHCPd servers are FreeBSD; mine is a CentOS; just want to support diskless PXE boot for my clients. Section 29.7.2.9.2 9Usning a Non-FreeBSD server - just indicates that do a tar/cpio of root; but ensure that special files in /dev are taken care of ... my question - - does anyone have this type of scenario setup? if so, can you please share with me your insights/cheat-sheet-how to? - i'd be interested in understanding the setup of how you handled copying the /dev files into your exported ROOT directorty ... Are there any other recommendations ? thanks in advance! -- best, Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 23:07:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA82916A401 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935F913C45A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1MN6j5K014457; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:06:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080222170409.0259b4f0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:08:38 -0600 To: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20080222202127.K4838@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080222202127.K4838@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: tape splitter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:07:06 -0000 At 01:23 PM 2/22/2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >anybody know program to split data (from stdin) on tapes like that > >something|splittotapes /dev/sa0 > >and then > >concattapes /dev/sa0 |something > > >i know dump do this, but i need other thing to be written to more than 1 tape. Well sonny in the old days we would create a volume with tar or cpio, then uuencode it, then run it through split. You could then move the split pieces onto removable media and reassemble it on another system. To put split piece back together you just cat them: cat split2 split2 > total.uu then uudecode it to restore the original file. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 23:52:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3752016A401 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvegac@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1E613C478 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cvegac@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so25146uge.37 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:52:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=ttP/4pAScSHqJYXrYNUeSshU03cdPSIdv+Avs/X/huw=; b=uv6g5Z73w6VBxirTT3QnZ04tRwHmJ+0Cwq+0H3k6rSnQOxWcYPeVPrDj4hA9gh9RPQPKSlZHEMv1CNBaYtGPZuLr3YvcsYrn0d6lRBhX8dmr8UXCxU/vOZhKrh25ap+IvVA8TULjQ5uU23u7H7TLXDXW/BA9Yns5NRL3WjETe2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=NJL//diGtaYqZPh8AkhbBMRV3m+WwGog7nRVUaZVbEDwKofGVBdAxPyLHAvNsu0+aUce7tXUSEwdZr77FpevVdd69hbuu5IIwhR5MMUr0/F+bk0gS510BnStUbS5oin/PvsedehSEGpQUcBNKQGNExb5KPy0GUIkD9QeqIIl7Xg= Received: by 10.66.222.9 with SMTP id u9mr72633ugg.55.1203722620761; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.237.12 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:23:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:23:40 -0600 From: "Cesar Vega Calderon" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: StorEdge L8+FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:52:40 -0000 Hi everybody, I need to configure a Sun Storedge L8 tape library in a box running FreeBSD 6.2, could you please point me to some links or how-to's to be able to start? Please answer directly to my e-mail address because I'm not (yet) subscribed to this list. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 23:56:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309C416A401 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from smtpoutm.mac.com (smtpoutm.mac.com [17.148.16.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256E013C4E8 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from webmail036 (webmail036-s [10.13.128.36]) by smtpoutm.mac.com (Xserve/smtpout003/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id m1MNf9PM008488; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:41:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:41:09 -0800 From: Peter Giessel To: Derek Ragona Message-ID: <88863638-0118-1000-C245-84C9BC6E990B-Webmail-10021@mac.com> in-reply-to: <6.0.0.22.2.20080222170409.0259b4f0@mail.computinginnovations.com> references: <20080222202127.K4838@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <6.0.0.22.2.20080222170409.0259b4f0@mail.computinginnovations.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 69.178.5.90 Received: from [69.178.5.90] from webmail.mac.com with HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:41:09 -0800 Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tape splitter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:56:25 -0000 On Friday, February 22, 2008, at 02:07PM, "Derek Ragona" wrote: >At 01:23 PM 2/22/2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>anybody know program to split data (from stdin) on tapes like that >> >>something|splittotapes /dev/sa0 >> >>and then >> >>concattapes /dev/sa0 |something >> >> >>i know dump do this, but i need other thing to be written to more than 1 tape. > >Well sonny in the old days we would create a volume with tar or cpio, then >uuencode it, then run it through split. I believe gtar ( /usr/ports/archivers/gtar if I recall correctly) can do this directly. See the manual for more details: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/tar.html#SEC153 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 00:41:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098FD16A403 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AA213C447 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (dsl092-075-097.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.75.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1N0ewbm078312 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:41:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47BF6B99.6050009@forrie.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:40:57 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080222) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/5941/Fri Feb 22 17:18:46 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Compiling SoGo on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:41:08 -0000 Has anyone had luck compiling the SoGo calendaring server on FreeBSD-6.3? I've found it quite involved and difficult, especially with the GNUstep dependencies. http://www.inverse.ca/english/contributions/sogo.html. Thanks in advance. _F From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 02:27:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C089416A400 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donald.teed@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782D813C47E for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donald.teed@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so608888ele.3 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:27:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=QLzSv0YqhQbLKBmJ5Z3M6pGLHyj2DyPJnUJpErEhidU=; b=Msh4hE+ucYEHxE1kWSCb7qzw8XZLW5J4p9tuLvcmppkBM4+fDVGitHPpLW7/f0Cqe223/IyrkyV1J/29a01uvYBSOCdYwRdXbE9i9/VsxaFjpy1JZx5h8HwAGyrlKIl47y5+zAqDiW0q0gcYUACrgvMfobh2eOmWjCbxaNXmrnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Bf0IoQ9uanavXrMrwjQ2xP2SkTbMOnlW8Ph0qfxZdjkAL3knWEWnYeA4Hi+VlzB17KI6w+01X0Fi7eK51F7TIqdDcmQhNwDI9fO2xJwFHz8NbgNQZAFm9Fx2d7mOg5drbjkTaUUklEVXt8OZ2x1T/f38mbmlUme2MgUsfYwLQ9w= Received: by 10.143.187.2 with SMTP id o2mr620764wfp.239.1203733650906; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.226.21 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:27:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:27:30 -0400 From: "D G Teed" To: "Jonathan McKeown" In-Reply-To: <200802221115.00835.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BDDFC2.20708@mykitchentable.net> <200802221115.00835.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:27:32 -0000 On 2/22/08, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > Petty quibble: I suspect that you mean ``there is no support for FreeBSD in > EMC Networker'' rather than the other way round. Picking a backup solution > that can't back up some of your servers, and opting to fix the problem by > getting rid of the servers, seems to me to be doing things the wrong way > round - irrespective of which OS you're forcing yourself to get rid of. Well, we are not going to ditch the Windows Servers, nor run 2 backup solutions, so FreeBSD must go. We do have the client that someone made for Legato 6.0 some time ago and we are using that. A bug report appeared that the default configure for the client was insecure. It wasn't fixed after a year and the FBSD resolution was to drop the client from FBSD packages. Legato didn't make that FBSD legato 6.0 client package. Someone clever from within the FreeBSD developers made it based on how the package for Linux worked. From the pattern that followed, it seems that developer or contributor didn't maintain it afterward. So from our perspective, FreeBSD dropped something we have relied on to make FreeBSD doable in our server room. I know, there are always people who will say: "you can't complain, you go fix it", but I'm sorry I'm not able to spend the time on it. After all, not everyone who flies is a pilot, and no one builds a plane only for pilots. I don't hate BSD - at home I run a sparcstation with NetBSD. --Donald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 02:39:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260A116A400 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from conn-smtp.mc.mpls.visi.com (conn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBCE13C457 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from mail.tcbug.org (mail.tcbug.org [208.42.70.163]) by conn-smtp.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A271879CA for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:16:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from build64.tcbug.org (unknown [208.42.70.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.tcbug.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE5F6D9E29 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:16:37 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Paetzel To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:16:21 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2038978.HKCc5MmmrM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200802222016.27466.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: Subject: usb4bsd vs. stock ucom/umodem drivers and pantech px-500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:39:27 -0000 --nextPart2038978.HKCc5MmmrM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline So in 6.3-RELEASE-p1 both amd64 and i386 I am getting 25K/sec off my sprint= =20 EVDO pcmcia card. This is an order of magnitude drop vs. 6.2-R and 7.0-RC1= =20 7.0 had a habit of panicing after a few minutes of heavy transfer, so I end= ed=20 up downgrading to 6.3-R. In a search for a solution I gave usb4bsd a try and am back to normal speed= s=20 (250K/sec) I'm not sure there is a question here, more just something for other people= to=20 google. =2D-=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5A8C 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB --nextPart2038978.HKCc5MmmrM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHvy2bJvkB8SevrssRAkMhAJ0ZtHS1I7ecmWM1/iEl1K3lV3EBzwCgl8zk FBeBKG9QEi1EUrFUjde2n5Q= =vNWc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2038978.HKCc5MmmrM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 04:13:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A0616A401 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888D113C457 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSllE-0001rA-AH for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:13:17 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JSllA-0001qr-TE; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:13:13 -0700 Message-ID: <47BF9D55.9080204@math.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:13:09 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt , questions@freebsd.org References: <47BE937F.5090201@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <47BE937F.5090201@math.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Cc: Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:13:17 -0000 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Predrag >>> Punosevac >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:36 PM >>> To: perryh@pluto.rain.com; questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after >= 16 years. >>> >>> >>> Predrag Punosevac wrote: >>> >>>> perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy >>>>>> for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; >>>>>> my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. >>>>>> >>>>> A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at >>>>> Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network >>>>> port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr >>>> What is lpr? Usually printers speak Post Script or PCL printer >>>> command language in which case you need a driver. >>>> LPD, LPRng, and CUPS are different spooling systems. >>>> Did you attach the printer to a computer or is acting as a free >>>> standing printer server. >>>> >>>> >>> There is a lpr driver by Brother for Linux. Brother and Canon have >>> binary blob drivers. Did you use that driver may be? >>> Does anyone know if those binary blobs can be useful for anything on >>> FreeBSD. They appear to be wrappers for standard >>> Ghost Script drivers. >>> >> >> They aren't wrappers. The binary drivers generally take the >> intermediate output from the Ghostscript ijs driver and convert >> it into whatever the printer understands. If the binary driver >> is statically built then it likely can be run by the linuxulator >> under FreeBSD. >> >> Most of the time the binary drivers are wrapped in an install script >> that sets all this up. >> >> > I will actually try to do that as soon as I get my hands on one of > those Brother printers and see if I can get it to work on FreeBSD and > OpenBSD. Of course, I will definitely try to set up my wife's > Photosmart C5250 with only using LPD:-) > > Thanks one more time Tad! > > Predrag > > > Ted, Would you be so kind to comment on something. According to HPLIP web-site in order to unlock the FULL functionality of all-in-one device one has to use CUPS? quote: *Question: How are HPLIP and HPIJS related?* Answer: HPIJS is a subcomponent of HPLIP. HPIJS provides basic printing support for non-postscript printers. HPIJS can operate in any spooler environment (including no spooler). HPIJS provides no I/O. HPLIP provides I/O for bi-directional communication, scanning, photo card access, and toolbox functionality. HPLIP requires the CUPS spooler. end of quote. Call me stupid but I do not understand the above. I have used probably as you and many other people HPIJS with LPD. HPIJS are included in HPLIP so I would guess that I could use even the same printcap file with HPLIP and it should work. If I want to unlock scanning I need the hpaio backhands for SANE and they are included in HPLIP. Now why the hack do we need the CUPS. Is it possible that idiotic HP-toolbox talks only IPP so that one can not actually get the status of the toner, paper, and other "advanced" functions unless use CUPS? I really apologize for bothering you but I really want to understand how HPLIP works. Best, Predrag >> Ted >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 07:12:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48E916A404 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:12:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C76313C448 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1N7AQRi001317; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:10:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1N7A9us001314; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:10:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:10:09 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20080222170409.0259b4f0@mail.computinginnovations.com> Message-ID: <20080223080953.O1238@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080222202127.K4838@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <6.0.0.22.2.20080222170409.0259b4f0@mail.computinginnovations.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tape splitter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:12:33 -0000 > uuencode it, then run it through split. You could then move the split pieces > onto removable media and reassemble it on another system. > > To put split piece back together you just cat them: > cat split2 split2 > total.uu > then uudecode it to restore the original file. > i know this but it makes temporary files i would like to avoid. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 07:24:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E0416A400 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B1813C468 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1N7N6P6001336 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:23:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1N7N6lx001333 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:23:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:23:06 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080223081622.T1326@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: CRASH:sleeping thread owns a non-sleepable lock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:24:35 -0000 i'm running my program (bash script to be exact), that does process URL list by fetching each one with curl and then process etc.. to make it faster i run 30-40 of them in parallel to maximize speed, as often there are network stalls and doing many transfers in parallel speed it up. all is run with nice -n 20 to not interfere too much with other tasks. it runs on Core2Duo SMP system with 6.2p11/amd64 the script takes some CPU time so system it's quite loaded. when i first start it it takes about 25% user time and 20% system time. after half a day doing exactly the same thing, network having same load, after processing few millions URL, system time jumps to over 50%, idle gets close to zero, system load goes up. that's strange but it goes on, after about next half a day system crashes with "sleeping thread owns a non-sleepable lock". no core dump, after panic kernel hangs. is there a fix for that? unix is for running multiple parallel tasks, so it should not cause crashes! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 08:11:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CC416A400 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CBE13C45A for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m1N8BMYn037743 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:11:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m1N8BMPF037742; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA27527; Sat, 23 Feb 08 00:01:37 PST Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:56:40 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: pauls@utdallas.edu Message-Id: <47bfd1b8.dTF4G+JwEKsyIPMx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <47be74b1.pGW9HajDXl3VC5wx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <56A674D3D7DD31DDC580680D@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <56A674D3D7DD31DDC580680D@utd59514.utdallas.edu> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting X11BASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:11:23 -0000 > LOCALBASE is /usr/local unless you've changed it (but then you > would already know what it was if you had.) You can find its > value in /usr/ports/Mk/ > > grep "LOCALBASE?=" /usr/ports/Mk/* > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk:LOCALBASE?= /usr/local Aha! > > In case it matters, I have not upgraded to the modular Xorg, and > > would prefer not to go through all that. "It ain't broke ..." > > ... if you want to stay with the old system, you're probably going > to need to put USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE?=/usr/X11R6 in your make.conf > file to keep your ports from breaking in interesting ways ... Aha! again. > Read /usr/ports/UPDATING carefully before proceeding. I did, but only as far back as the last time I updated, and I skipped entries which were identified as affecting ports I haven't installed or don't use ... including the modular xorg which I'm trying to avoid. (I figure it can wait until I do a clean install, on a different machine, using 7.0 when it comes out.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 08:11:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3F116A405 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A551913C45D for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m1N8BN9o037751 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:11:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m1N8BNsa037750; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:11:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA27550; Sat, 23 Feb 08 00:06:24 PST Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:01:26 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net Message-Id: <47bfd2d6.EvwzDqmqdVQnRjs8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <47be74b1.pGW9HajDXl3VC5wx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <200802221307.43940.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802221307.43940.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting X11BASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:11:23 -0000 > > * What is the value of LOCALBASE? I'm not finding any > > definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf. > > Just set it to ${LOCALBASE} verbatim. Not what you think is the > value of the variable LOCALBASE but the word ${LOCALBASE}. Academic interest :) I'm finding it especially "interesting" that /etc/make.conf, which to judge from its location is part of the base, depends on a setting from something in the /usr/ports tree. > > In case it matters, I have not upgraded to the modular Xorg, and > > would prefer not to go through all that. "It ain't broke ..." > > True, but your portstree is now 'broken', because support for how > it used to work is being phased out, like the whole X11BASE thing. > I think if you upgrade anything that depends on xorg, you'll find > dependencies being pulled in that are part of the modular xorg, > unless you really know what you're doing. ... which is why I am trying to install portmaster before doing anything else. I may try pkg_tree also, if it doesn't lead into a dependency maze of its own. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 08:18:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B214316A405 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634DC13C43E for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.72.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED13440548C; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:18:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BFD6D1.3020506@bsdforen.de> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:18:25 +0100 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080205) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <47be74b1.pGW9HajDXl3VC5wx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <200802221307.43940.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47bfd2d6.EvwzDqmqdVQnRjs8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <47bfd2d6.EvwzDqmqdVQnRjs8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting X11BASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:18:28 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>> * What is the value of LOCALBASE? I'm not finding any >>> definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf. >> Just set it to ${LOCALBASE} verbatim. Not what you think is the >> value of the variable LOCALBASE but the word ${LOCALBASE}. > > Academic interest :) > > I'm finding it especially "interesting" that /etc/make.conf, which > to judge from its location is part of the base, depends on a setting > from something in the /usr/ports tree. > Well, actually it doesn't. What gives you this impression? 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If you are not in the product or purchasing department, please forward my information to the relevant department.Thks. -- Thks & Best regards, Grace TEL:86-755-28532658 28532458 Fax:86-755-89518848 MSN: gracegreat@hotmail.com Email:gracegreat01@gmail.com sales@valor-wave.com www.valor-wave.com CHINA factory Add. : SHANGXUE INDUSTRIAL ZONE, BUJI, SHENZHEN, CHINA TEL: 00852-30628889 30602868 FAX: 00852-35902333 HK Add. : RM1002, 10/F, RICKEY CENTRE, 36 CHONG YIP STREET,KWUN TONG, KOWLOON, HK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 10:45:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CC016A401 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FB213C45D for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.126]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20D339828; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:45:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47BFF963.10604@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:45:55 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vincenzo romero References: <13d67a800802221443w11fa3755wa0db0c09d07b4d48@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <13d67a800802221443w11fa3755wa0db0c09d07b4d48@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD diskless workstation and over the network installation via PXE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:45:58 -0000 vincenzo romero wrote: > Hello, > > Am new to FreeBSD and relatively new to linux; I have a CentOS 5.1 > PXE/tftpd/dhcpd server; I'd like it to be the build/PXE server where a > bunch of 1U clients could PXE boot and run: > > 1. diskless over NFS-Root > > In googling, seems like there is a clone script that preps and lets > you generate a root file system structure and let your clients boot > off the network. I found the docs I could find on the internet way obsolete back in 2005 when I played with it, and I am not aware that these has been updated. I wrote my own guide to make up for this, however, this may now also be obsolete as it's been some time since I played with this. My main problem with diskless is that FreeBSD mounts memory backed filesystems for /var and /tmp which waste a lot of precious RAM if you have restricted memory. And a feature, useless in diskless operation, prevents mounting /var and /tmp from a server. > I checked the Free BSD Handbook (Chapter 29) where extensive > documentation on setup is outlined, but it assumes that the > PXE/TFTP/NFS/DHCPd servers are FreeBSD; mine is a CentOS; just want > to support diskless PXE boot for my clients. > > Section 29.7.2.9.2 9Usning a Non-FreeBSD server - just indicates that > do a tar/cpio of root; but ensure that special files in /dev are taken > care of ... There is no problem serving files from a non-FreeBSD server, however things are easier, as you need to build all applications served via NFS for FreeBSD. This mainly affects you if you want diskless clients, you need to keep these updated. For installation this is not a concern. The /dev is not a problem, the diskless client mounts a /dev locally, it is not a real file system. > - does anyone have this type of scenario setup? if so, can you please > share with me your insights/cheat-sheet-how to? http://www.locolomo.org/pub/pxeboot/index.html > - i'd be interested in understanding the setup of how you handled > copying the /dev files into your exported ROOT directorty ... > > Are there any other recommendations ? If you want to do network installation rather than diskless, avoid NFS, it is much easier to set up installation over ftp. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 10:48:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BC016A406 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DCA13C465 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from [87.114.70.100] (helo=[192.168.0.3]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1JSrgQ-0008DP-L6 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:32:42 +0000 Message-ID: <47BFF649.9060104@jessikat.plus.net> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:32:41 +0000 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Plusnet-Relay: 0d32aa94894852a79989012ec2b061bc Cc: Subject: duplicate message removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:48:42 -0000 We have a bunch of FreeBSD 6.x servers which we administer remotely. As part of that we get the normal root job mails emailed to a mailing list which the admins(mostly me) can inspect at leisure and also use for historical purposes. Trouble is many of the emails get huge because of repeated messages typically stuff like xxx.yyy.com login failures: Feb 22 20:07:54 app3 sshd[56886]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for 216-194-26-66.ny.ny.metconnect.net failed - POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT! etc etc All these servers are running denyhosts, but we still see lots of these messages. I was wondering if there's any simple compression script which notices the repetitions (apart from timestamp) and can remove the many duplicates etc etc. -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 11:59:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCC716A400 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B9213C45B for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FF41CC8B; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:59:41 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:59:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47be74b1.pGW9HajDXl3VC5wx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <200802221307.43940.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47bfd2d6.EvwzDqmqdVQnRjs8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <47bfd2d6.EvwzDqmqdVQnRjs8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802231259.39783.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com Subject: Re: setting X11BASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:59:42 -0000 On Saturday 23 February 2008 09:01:26 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > * What is the value of LOCALBASE? I'm not finding any > > > definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf. > > > > Just set it to ${LOCALBASE} verbatim. Not what you think is the > > value of the variable LOCALBASE but the word ${LOCALBASE}. > > Academic interest :) > > I'm finding it especially "interesting" that /etc/make.conf, which > to judge from its location is part of the base, depends on a setting > from something in the /usr/ports tree. No, the ports tree uses make(1), a base utility and the global configuration file for make is /etc/make.conf. So the ports tree depends on a base utility. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 12:24:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E4C16A401 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFDB13C4E1 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF4A1CC8B; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:24:03 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:24:01 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47BFF649.9060104@jessikat.plus.net> In-Reply-To: <47BFF649.9060104@jessikat.plus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802231324.02203.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Robin Becker Subject: Re: duplicate message removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:24:04 -0000 On Saturday 23 February 2008 11:32:41 Robin Becker wrote: > Trouble is many of the emails get huge because of repeated messages > typically stuff like > > xxx.yyy.com login failures: > Feb 22 20:07:54 app3 sshd[56886]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo > for 216-194-26-66.ny.ny.metconnect.net failed - POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT! > > etc etc > > All these servers are running denyhosts, but we still see lots of these > messages. > > I was wondering if there's any simple compression script which notices > the repetitions (apart from timestamp) and can remove the many > duplicates etc etc. Well, there's two things you can do: Attack the problem: Install sysutils/grok on the machines and start it with following config: file "/var/log/auth.log" { type "ssh-illegal-user" { match = "Invalid user %USERNAME% from %IP%"; threshold = 5; # 5 hits ... key = "%IP%"; # from a single ip ... interval = 60; # in 1 minutes reaction = "/sbin/pfctl -t sshscan -Tadd %IP%"; }; type "ssh-scan-possible" { match = "Did not receive identification string from %IP%"; threshold = 3; interval = 60; reaction = "/sbin/pfctl -t sshscan -Tadd %IP%"; }; }; If you replace: my $TAIL = "tail -0f"; with my $TAIL = "/usr/bin/tail -0F"; # capital F in grok, you will never have to look at it again. Else you will have to restart it whenever newsyslog(8) rotates the auth.log. Note that this uses pf, and assumes the table is blocking table. I'm sure it can be done with other firewalls as well. Attack the report: daily_status_security_loginfail_enable="NO" >>/etc/periodic.conf Then write your own and put it in /usr/local/etc/periodic/security/. I've written something similar with php for mail rejects, that groups sender or hostname and error message together, but any scripting language that you're comfy with should work. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 12:35:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B175A16A406 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B0113C45D for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu ([151.77.252.33]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1NCZI04032926 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:35:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m1NCZW4o011105 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:35:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <47C012EE.6090006@netfence.it> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:34:54 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 212.31.247.179 Subject: 6.3 DHCP and static_routes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:35:05 -0000 Hello. This is part of my rc.conf: ifconfig_vr0="DHCP" static_routes="a b c" route_a="192.168.101.0/24 xxx" route_b="192.168.103.0/24 yyy" route_c="192.168.106.0/24 xxx" This used to work fine with 6.2, with the default route set up by the DHCP servers. After I upgraded to 6.3, I get no default route anymore. This is the relevant part of my logfile: Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: DHCPDISCOVER on vr0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6 Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: DHCPOFFER from 10.1.2.15 Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: DHCPREQUEST on vr0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: DHCPACK from 10.1.2.15 Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: bound to 10.1.2.18 -- renewal in 1800 seconds. Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: vr0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: options=8 Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: inet 10.1.2.18 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.1.2.255 Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: ether 00:50:8d:63:65:ce Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: status: active Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: add net 192.168.101.0: gateway xxx Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: route: Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: writing to routing socket Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: : Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: File exists Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: add net 192.168.103.0: gateway yyy: route already in table Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: add net 192.168.106.0: gateway xxx Feb 23 11:16:38 zzz kernel: Additional routing options: Has anything changed? Anyone else experiencing a similar problem? Any suggestion? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 14:15:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98C316A401 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from virtual.micronet.sk (smtp.micronet.sk [84.16.32.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA1113C45B for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E7810E5E0 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:14:16 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at virtual.micronet.sk Received: from virtual.micronet.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virtual.micronet.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8pTXEXilUBYs for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:14:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from DANGER-PC (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6C410E8EA for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:14:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:17:20 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.3) Professional Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13610129926.20080223151720@rulez.sk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gmirror on slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:15:26 -0000 Hello people, I'm trying to set up a gmirror on two slices, but I am stuck somewhere. I am unable to find out what is wrong. Here's what I have done so far: I have 2 disks in the box. I have created 2 slices on both of them (ad{4,6}s1 and ad{4,6}s2) through sysinstall. (btw, http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=72895&cat= is really annoying, lucky I had a remote console :-)) Now I want to initialize gmirror on slice 1: ha-db1# gmirror label -v -b round-robin gm0 /dev/ad4s1 gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/ad4s1: Operation not permitted. ha-db1# sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 kern.geom.debugflags: 0 -> 16 ha-db1# gmirror label -v -b round-robin gm0 /dev/ad4s1 gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/ad4s1: Operation not permitted. for additional information, I am including the following: ha-db1# fdisk -vp ad4 # /dev/ad4 g c1453521 h16 s63 p 1 0xa5 63 72340632 a 1 p 2 0xa5 72340695 1392803370 ha-db1# disklabel /dev/ad4s1 # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1048576 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 b: 25165824 1048576 swap c: 72340632 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 25165824 26214400 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 e: 20960408 51380224 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 Any ideas will be much appreciated. -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 15:14:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE6F16A407 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonylabarbara@aol.com) Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8E313C455 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonylabarbara@aol.com) Received: from tonylabarbara@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id r.cb0.24d515ce (37544); Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:14:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail-md07 (webmail-md07.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.145]) by cia-mb02.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB025-92a847c03869138; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:14:49 -0500 To: norgaard@locolomo.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:14:49 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 190.166.0.112 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: tonylabarbara@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34032-STANDARD Received: from 190.166.0.112 by webmail-md07.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.145) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:14:49 -0500 Message-Id: <8CA4445F7AA44A9-730-2E26@webmail-md07.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: My Rebuild Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:14:55 -0000 Now I get this when I try and log on: no /boot/loader All I want to do is rebuild the silly FBSD! Again, I fell into this silly lo= op when I tried to rebuild: -- Select Drive -- FDISK Partition Editor ("Q") -- Install Boot Manager and it just goes round, and round, and round. Can I just wipe the disk and s= tart over? And why these strange problems? I=C2=B4m not connected to the Int= ernet, so no possibility of virus. Never had this problem before. Help! Tony ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.= aol.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 16:16:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E8F16A400; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7592A13C459; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1NGFGEo002953; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:15:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1NGFEjj002950; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:15:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:15:14 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Daniel Gerzo In-Reply-To: <13610129926.20080223151720@rulez.sk> Message-ID: <20080223171450.G2920@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <13610129926.20080223151720@rulez.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror on slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:16:48 -0000 > Now I want to initialize gmirror on slice 1: > > ha-db1# gmirror label -v -b round-robin gm0 /dev/ad4s1 > gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/ad4s1: Operation not permitted. > ha-db1# sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 you try to make a mirror on used slice or some partition of that > kern.geom.debugflags: 0 -> 16 > ha-db1# gmirror label -v -b round-robin gm0 /dev/ad4s1 > gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/ad4s1: Operation not permitted. > > for additional information, I am including the following: > > ha-db1# fdisk -vp ad4 > # /dev/ad4 > g c1453521 h16 s63 > p 1 0xa5 63 72340632 > a 1 > p 2 0xa5 72340695 1392803370 > > ha-db1# disklabel /dev/ad4s1 > # /dev/ad4s1: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 1048576 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 > b: 25165824 1048576 swap > c: 72340632 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit > d: 25165824 26214400 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > e: 20960408 51380224 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 > > > Any ideas will be much appreciated. > > -- > Best regards, > Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 16:18:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC94816A405 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE0A13C468 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1NGGUwr002960; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:16:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1NGGOQI002957; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:16:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:16:24 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: =?koi8-r?Q?=E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C1=CE=C4=D2_=E4=C5=D2=C5=D7=D1=CE=CB=CF?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080223171607.W2920@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derek Ragona Subject: Re: Re: tape splitter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:18:43 -0000 > 2. Outputs chunks in specified directory. You can configure it to write directly to tape, but it's not the best solution. > 3. Can be configured to write only N chunks and after that wait for SIGUSR1 to write next. > 4. Can be configured to write MD5-digest of every piece in separate file. > > I use it to make 45Gb backup on the DVD's every week at Friday. It takes approximatelly 30 minutes of my time and 6 hours of real time (i need to replace DVD's and write labels on them). It takes 12 DVD's and cost 6$. > > If you tapes is not very huge (< 4Gb) you will be better to use DVD's. Write once DVD is available ~0.5$ is you bought 100 at once. > DVD is more reliable then tapes, and you can just put old backups on the shelf for long storage. > For daily delta-backups you can use few DVD-RW. > > i have 100GB tape drive. thanks for your program! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 16:44:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC9E16A405 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8452B13C442 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1JSwzL-0004by-SD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:12:35 +0000 Received: from [82.45.71.254] (helo=atlantis) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1JSwzL-0001h4-17 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:12:35 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c87636$c6ef9240$0200010a@atlantis> From: "Jasvinder S. Bahra" To: Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:11:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Subject: Unable to compile anything from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:44:09 -0000 Hi, I have installed FreeBSD 6.3 onto a new machine. I cvsup'd ('src-all' and 'ports-all', RELENG_6_3). I then set some /etc/make.conf parameters (CPUTYPE=c3, CFLAGS= -O2 -pipe, COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe), rebuilt both world and kernel (no changes were made to the kernel file GENERIC), and installed both of them. I have a fully working system. If I do a "uname -a", I get something like the following... FreeBSD watchtower.XXXXXXXXX.org 6.3-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p1 #0: Fri Feb 22 07:45:19 GMT 2008 root@watchtower.XXXXXXXXX.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 All indications suggested everything was fine. I then intended to install a number of packages from ports, so I switched to root. I usually use portupgrade, so I then tried the following... cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade make install clean As part of the install, it tried to install lang/ruby18, but it failed. This is the error I was presented with... ======================================================== checking minix/config.h presence... no checking for minix/config.h... no checking for special C compiler options needed for large files... no checking for _FILE_OFFSET_BITS value needed for large files... unknown checking for _LARGE_FILES value needed for large files... unknown checking for long long... yes checking for off_t... yes checking for int... yes checking size of int... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (int) See `config.log' for more details. ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to stas@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.6-p111/config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade. ======================================================== I was surprised - I was tracking the security branch after all. I examined the config.log it mentions above, but i'm not a C programmer and I couldn't really make sense of it. I performed a "make clean", and mentally shrugging, went on to try and install the other packages in my list. Portaudit successfully installed, but the other two packages (security/aide and net/isc-dhcp3-server) did not... ===== security/aide ========================================== config.status: creating po/Makefile config.status: creating build.sh ===> Building for gmake-3.81_2 make all-recursive Making all in glob if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/include -O2 -pipe -march=c3 -MT glob.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/glob.Tpo" -c -o glob.o glob.c; then mv -f ".deps/glob.Tpo" ".deps/glob.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/glob.Tpo"; exit 1; fi glob.c:150: warning: conflicting types for built-in function 'malloc' glob.c: In function `globfree': glob.c:1075: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction: 4 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake/work/make-3.81/glob. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake/work/make-3.81. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake/work/make-3.81. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/aide. ======================================================== ===== net/isc-dhcp3-server ==================================== Making links in server ===> Building for isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.5_2 Making all in common cc -O2 -pipe -march=c3 -D_PATH_DHCPD_CONF=\"/usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf\" -D_P ATH_DHCPD_DB=\"/var/db/dhcpd.leases\" -D_PATH_DHCPD_PID=\"/var/run/dhcpd.pid \" -D_PATH_DHCRELAY_PID=\"/var/run/dhcrelay.pid\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_CONF=\"/u sr/local/etc/dhclient.conf\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_SCRIPT=\"/usr/local/sbin/dhcli ent-script\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_DB=\"/var/db/dhclient.leases\" -D_PATH_DHCLIEN T_PID=\"/var/run/dhclient.pid\" -Dwarn=dhcp_warn -DNOMINUM -DPARANOIA -DJAIL -I/usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5 -I/usr/ports/net/isc-d hcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5/includes -O -Wall -Wno-unused -c raw.c cc -O2 -pipe -march=c3 -D_PATH_DHCPD_CONF=\"/usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf\" -D_P ATH_DHCPD_DB=\"/var/db/dhcpd.leases\" -D_PATH_DHCPD_PID=\"/var/run/dhcpd.pid \" -D_PATH_DHCRELAY_PID=\"/var/run/dhcrelay.pid\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_CONF=\"/u sr/local/etc/dhclient.conf\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_SCRIPT=\"/usr/local/sbin/dhcli ent-script\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_DB=\"/var/db/dhclient.leases\" -D_PATH_DHCLIEN T_PID=\"/var/run/dhclient.pid\" -Dwarn=dhcp_warn -DNOMINUM -DPARANOIA -DJAIL -I/usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5 -I/usr/ports/net/isc-d hcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5/includes -O -Wall -Wno-unused -c parse.c parse.c: In function `parse_numeric_aggregate': parse.c:516: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction: 4 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5/work.freebsd/common. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5/work.freebsd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server. ======================================================== I'm more or less stumped, so i'm hoping for suggestions or some advice. Can anyone help? Regards, Mr. J. S. Bahra From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 16:49:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA7B16A401 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrwebedit@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF3113C4D1 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrwebedit@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so452637nfb.33 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:49:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=EskfTP2dQ4eG9Ye6cTfmJZe8lv+/xmG4iCMeA6kjlKg=; b=ZTII6a1KbedNeItEV/oZelk0xX/JfQIUKwzoe0vH7+kM6nUTGcg8AR1Yv2EdGhaRpd7HYjr39FG1nJ/JKEbiVZ/H/f5ceYhrGOYl3U6GMegWTPIaao2Tk8aCIWYZatbUjC/RNvHXv0GrpUJOeFeumcdywgHjjvwsRNR0wprQ24w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=WO1I0gsDsbGOG9Sqy6Z9KANcGIihe9OsDuAFB6sGa4piZMCf3ftkBtVE24P02+owuumbLs833GUlnsMQp4/WhYh61mlo1MuH/z3eshghQSlnD7lQUGJqI8kaltpx8N/LcRXRHyRCdKqTQN07Ii/Gf/ekNkxMWwuQMOO7Qytt4BI= Received: by 10.150.134.7 with SMTP id h7mr225722ybd.34.1203783687488; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:21:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.196.21 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:21:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9e6750ca0802230821x360d8aadqc6c8307a6fa61fc1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:21:27 +0400 From: www.mrwebedit.com To: questions@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Outsourcing Your Book Editing Jobs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:49:20 -0000 ** *Dear Sir / Madam, * *We are an on-line service provider for all *journalism and publishing related activities - original articles, ghost writing, editing, magazine management etc. Kindly *visit us at:* * * *www.mrwebedit.com* Reliability, maintaining confidentiality and strict adherence to delivery dates is sacrosanct to the organization. *We look forward to working with you.* *Regards,* *Manjula Ramakrishnan* *CEO* *www.mrwebedit.com* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 16:58:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0966E16A401 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE39113C448 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrest-aldrichs-macbook-pro.local (host243.72.248.152.conversent.net [72.248.152.243]) (authenticated bits=0) by forrie.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1NGwEef024904 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:58:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Message-ID: <47C050A6.3040801@forrie.com> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:58:14 -0500 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Macintosh/20080222) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/5947/Sat Feb 23 10:40:48 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Apache-2.0+PHP5 does not like MySQL-5.x ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:58:22 -0000 After a long process of figuring out what went wrong, httpd was using a ton of resources when it received a HUP signal (log rotation at midnight). Subsequently, php -v was dumping core.... things pointed to mysqli.so. Long story short, I downgraded to mysql-4.10, recompiled php5 and dependencies and walla, no more problems. Though I didn't specifically figure out the problem, I'm pretty sure it's MySQL related as that was the only thing that was changed on this system (apart from recompiling dependencies to support the new API). I wonder if someone has run across this and if so, have you found a bug or a solution. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 17:10:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC94016A402 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D9F13C447 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A731CC8B; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:10:11 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:10:09 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <000901c87636$c6ef9240$0200010a@atlantis> In-Reply-To: <000901c87636$c6ef9240$0200010a@atlantis> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802231810.10285.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Unable to compile anything from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:10:12 -0000 On Saturday 23 February 2008 17:11:41 Jasvinder S. Bahra wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed FreeBSD 6.3 onto a new machine. > > I cvsup'd ('src-all' and 'ports-all', RELENG_6_3). > > I then set some /etc/make.conf parameters (CPUTYPE=c3, It has a Via CPU? Comment that option and try again. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 17:49:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6DC16A400 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@kuhl.co.uk) Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA3B13C44B for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@kuhl.co.uk) Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080223175141.ZXIE16169.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:51:41 +0000 Received: from [10.2.2.25] (really [81.110.245.249]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080223174945.QFGK29112.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[10.2.2.25]>; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:49:45 +0000 Message-ID: <47C05CB3.6010606@kuhl.co.uk> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:49:39 +0000 From: Rob User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Bennett , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200802221222.m1MCM3aL001297@mp.cs.niu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200802221222.m1MCM3aL001297@mp.cs.niu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=XIDpl3lyf+3fM9R4nCsc9Q==:17 a=9Zkq6vJHhhFIqHgfy10A:9 a=-fMCPLB-wTDe61PlM8kA:7 a=1w1EQUJUmxzYzQCFkczxwfElClYA:4 a=6BEIpMDiMxIA:10 Cc: Subject: Re: SMP interrupt problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:49:44 -0000 Scott Bennett wrote: >> >> Once it is running it seems to just be busy doing interrupts. >> >> When "idle" top -C -S shows: >> >> last pid: 811; load averages: 1.00, 0.67, 0.31 up 0+00:04:24 07:32:53 >> 65 processes: 6 running, 43 sleeping, 16 waiting >> CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 43.6% interrupt, 56.4% idle >> Mem: 7376K Active, 4768K Inact, 18M Wired, 8336K Buf, 963M Free >> Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free >> >> PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME CPU COMMAND >> 13 root 1 171 52 0K 8K RUN 0 3:43 99.02% idle: cpu0 >> 23 root 1 -52 -171 0K 8K CPU2 2 2:51 85.11% irq9: acpi0 > > Have you looked to see which device(s) you have at IRQ 9? Is there some > problem with the device(s)? > >> 11 root 1 171 52 0K 8K RUN 2 0:55 12.89% idle: cpu2 >> 37 root 1 171 52 0K 8K pgzero 0 0:00 0.00% pagezero >> 15 root 1 -32 -151 0K 8K WAIT 0 0:00 0.00% swi4: clock s >> 0 root 1 96 0 0K 0K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% swapper >> 4 root 1 -8 0 0K 8K - 0 0:00 0.00% g_down >> 3 root 1 -8 0 0K 8K - 0 0:00 0.00% g_up >> >> If anyone has an idea what the problem is I would be grateful for any advice. >> > You deleted part of the startup messages, so we can't see what you have > at IRQ 9. Go back and look at either dmesg(1) output or /var/log/messages > to find out what device(s) interrupt(s) at IRQ 9. Then check for anything > weird about the device activity. > Thanks for the reply, I didn't post the whole dmesg as I couldn't see an irq 9 in the listing - sorry, I should have mentioned that. I have pasted the whole dmesg output below again though in case there are any other clues in there: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #0: Wed Jan 16 04:45:45 UTC 2008 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2799.21-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x4400 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 1073676288 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1037307904 (989 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Jan 16 2008 04:43:12) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 29.0 on pci2 pci4: on pcib2 em0: port 0xd800-0xd83f m em 0xfe9e0000-0xfe9fffff irq 48 at device 1.0 on pci4 em0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:27:63:93 pcib3: at device 31.0 on pci2 pci3: on pcib3 uhci0: port 0xe800-0xe81f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib4: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib4 fxp0: port 0xc400-0xc43f mem 0xfe7fe000-0xfe7feff f,0xfe7a0000-0xfe7bffff irq 17 at device 1.0 on pci1 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:27:63:92 pci1: at device 2.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x37 6,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi 0 fdc0: [FAST] ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xc97ff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ukbd0: DELL DELL USB Keyboard, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 kbd2 at ukbd0 uhid0: DELL DELL USB Keyboard, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. ad0: 76319MB at ata0-master UDMA100 SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 18:13:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACC816A401 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C698813C4D3 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:13:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m1NIDDp9034165 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:13:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m1NIDDEs034164; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA28858; Sat, 23 Feb 08 10:03:21 PST Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:58:22 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: kamikaze@bsdforen.de Message-Id: <47c05ebe.Mgeup+ojPdtp/pFj%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <47be74b1.pGW9HajDXl3VC5wx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <200802221307.43940.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47bfd2d6.EvwzDqmqdVQnRjs8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <47BFD6D1.3020506@bsdforen.de> In-Reply-To: <47BFD6D1.3020506@bsdforen.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting X11BASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:13:17 -0000 > >>> * What is the value of LOCALBASE? I'm not finding any > >>> definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf. > >> > >> Just set it to ${LOCALBASE} verbatim. Not what you think is the > >> value of the variable LOCALBASE but the word ${LOCALBASE}. > > > > Academic interest :) > > > > I'm finding it especially "interesting" that /etc/make.conf, > > which to judge from its location is part of the base, depends > > on a setting from something in the /usr/ports tree. > > Well, actually it doesn't. What gives you this impression? Paul Schmehl reported where LOCALBASE is set: in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk Now I'm being told to add this: X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} to /etc/make.conf, so that /etc/make.conf needs LOCALBASE to be set in order to set X11BASE correctly. Is that not a dependency? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 18:15:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DEB16A402 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from mo-p07-fb.rzone.de (mo-p07-fb.rzone.de [81.169.146.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5611613C45B for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from mo-p07-ob.rzone.de (mrclete-mo-p07-ob.mail [192.168.63.176]) by gibbsson-fb-01.store (RZmta 16.9) with ESMTP id W066e8k1NEu3DY for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:44:58 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from: ) X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 X-RZG-AUTH: l30WrtbrzmfyRJtZ7/TtK2qIdZIgjE9K4Q55TXGhenj8TX/T1uwXx72N6AvH Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([91.66.27.4]) by post.webmailer.de (mrclete mo3) (RZmta 16.8) with ESMTP id g047d7k1NEYCwl for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:43:37 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from: ) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840B757C00A for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:43:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24569-08 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:43:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 23E2D57C009; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:43:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:43:36 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080223174336.GA24755@laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <58126.85.105.4.81.1203442791.squirrel@85.105.4.81> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <58126.85.105.4.81.1203442791.squirrel@85.105.4.81> Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Subject: Re: esx 3.0.2 Update 1 and BTX halted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:15:56 -0000 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 07:39:51PM +0200, Omer Faruk Sen wrote: > Has anyone in this list installed fbsd 6.2 or 6.3 to esx 3.0.2 update 1 > ?(I have also tried esx 3.0.2 without update 1 and has taken the same > error message). If yes have you done anything special for this system ? Yes, I have installed 6.2/amd64 and 6.3/amd64 on esx 3.0.x and esx 3.5, no special adjustments needed. As guest operating system I choose "Other (64bit)". On esx 3.0.2 I manually change "Advanced Settings/Misc/Misc.Timer/MinHardPeriod" from 400 to 100 (default on 3.5) and set kern.hz="100" on the guest machines. Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 18:33:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C670F16A402 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAD713C448 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D931A1CC8B; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:33:03 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:33:01 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47be74b1.pGW9HajDXl3VC5wx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <47BFD6D1.3020506@bsdforen.de> <47c05ebe.Mgeup+ojPdtp/pFj%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <47c05ebe.Mgeup+ojPdtp/pFj%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802231933.02656.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: kamikaze@bsdforen.de, perryh@pluto.rain.com Subject: Re: setting X11BASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:33:05 -0000 On Saturday 23 February 2008 18:58:22 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > >>> * What is the value of LOCALBASE? I'm not finding any > > >>> definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf. > > >> > > >> Just set it to ${LOCALBASE} verbatim. Not what you think is the > > >> value of the variable LOCALBASE but the word ${LOCALBASE}. > > > > > > Academic interest :) > > > > > > I'm finding it especially "interesting" that /etc/make.conf, > > > which to judge from its location is part of the base, depends > > > on a setting from something in the /usr/ports tree. > > > > Well, actually it doesn't. What gives you this impression? > > Paul Schmehl reported where LOCALBASE is set: in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > > Now I'm being told to add this: > > X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} > > to /etc/make.conf, so that /etc/make.conf needs LOCALBASE to be set > in order to set X11BASE correctly. Is that not a dependency? You assume make(1)'s variable assignment is done on encounter base at runtime. It isn't: # echo LOCALBASE=/usr/local >/tmp/foo.mk # echo 'X11BASE=${LOCALBASE}' >>/etc/make.conf # make -f /tmp/foo.mk -V X11BASE /usr/local # echo LOCALBASE=/tmp >/tmp/foo.mk # make -f /tmp/foo.mk -V X11BASE /tmp For your academic interest: gzcat /usr/share/doc/psd/12.make/paper.ascii.gz|$PAGER -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 18:35:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953E716A401 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804EC13C50C for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:35:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (unknown [24.175.90.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1201465502 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:35:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:35:09 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <05E49C593C4BF6198C574305@Macintosh.local> In-Reply-To: <47c05ebe.Mgeup+ojPdtp/pFj%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <47be74b1.pGW9HajDXl3VC5wx%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <200802221307.43940.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47bfd2d6.EvwzDqmqdVQnRjs8%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <47BFD6D1.3020506@bsdforen.de> <47c05ebe.Mgeup+ojPdtp/pFj%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: setting X11BASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:35:10 -0000 --On February 23, 2008 9:58:22 AM -0800 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> > >> > I'm finding it especially "interesting" that /etc/make.conf, >> > which to judge from its location is part of the base, depends >> > on a setting from something in the /usr/ports tree. >> >> Well, actually it doesn't. What gives you this impression? > > Paul Schmehl reported where LOCALBASE is set: in > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > > Now I'm being told to add this: > > X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} > > to /etc/make.conf, so that /etc/make.conf needs LOCALBASE to be set > in order to set X11BASE correctly. Is that not a dependency? You're looking at it in the reverse of what it really is. LOCALBASE is set in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk so that *ports* know where to install stuff. And X11BASE needs to be set to ${LOCALBASE} in /etc/make.conf because *ports* need to know that X11BASE has changed from the previous default of /usr/X11R6. A dependency is a program that a *port* requires to function properly, not a *location* where ports install their files. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 19:01:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F070316A400; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from virtual.micronet.sk (smtp.micronet.sk [84.16.32.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B282713C44B; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE09B10E88C; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:00:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at virtual.micronet.sk Received: from virtual.micronet.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virtual.micronet.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C0h6FWmJf9lg; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:00:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from DANGER-PC (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A66410E864; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:00:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:03:12 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.3) Professional Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <216928338.20080223200312@rulez.sk> To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080223171450.G2920@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <13610129926.20080223151720@rulez.sk> <20080223171450.G2920@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Gerzo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: gmirror on slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:01:17 -0000 Hello Wojciech, Saturday, February 23, 2008, 5:15:14 PM, you wrote: >> Now I want to initialize gmirror on slice 1: >> >> ha-db1# gmirror label -v -b round-robin gm0 /dev/ad4s1 >> gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/ad4s1: Operation not permitted. >> ha-db1# sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 > you try to make a mirror on used slice or some partition of that and what's wrong with that, actually? how do I create gmirror-ed slice then? I have also tried the above commands on system that has ad4s1 and its partitions unmounted, still getting the same error. -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 19:12:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC55616A404 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C46213C447 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1JSznA-0000LQ-Eq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:12:12 +0000 Received: from [82.45.71.254] (helo=atlantis) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1JSzn9-00075F-QB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:12:11 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01c8764f$de52ee50$0200010a@atlantis> From: "Jasvinder S. Bahra" To: References: <000901c87636$c6ef9240$0200010a@atlantis> <200802231810.10285.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:11:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Subject: Re: Unable to compile anything from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:12:14 -0000 > It has a Via CPU? > Comment that option and try again. Mel, It does indeed have a Via cpu. The box is running on a "VIA EPIA EK 8000EG" motherboard (which has a CPU integrated into it). If I run "cat /var/log/dmesg.today | grep CPU", I get... CPU: VIA C3 Nehemiah+RNG+AES (800.03-MHz 686-class CPU) Regardless, I commented out all three settings in /etc/make.conf (CPUTYPE, CFLAGS and COPTFLAGS), and tried the 'make install clean' routine again. Unfortunately, Portupgrade, Aide and ISC-DHCP3-Server still fail, though at a different point... ===== Portupgrade ====================================== config.status: creating Makefile ===> Building for ruby-1.8.6.111_1,1 cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -c array.c array.c: In function `rb_ary_modify': array.c:72: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction: 4 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.6-p111. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade. ==================================================== ===== Aide =========================================== config.status: creating po/Makefile config.status: creating build.sh ===> Building for gmake-3.81_2 make all-recursive Making all in glob if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/include -O2 -fno-strict-ali asing -pipe -MT glob.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/glob.Tpo" -c -o glob.o glob.c; then mv -f ".deps/glob.Tpo" ".deps/glob.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/glob.Tpo"; exit 1; fi glob.c:150: warning: conflicting types for built-in function 'malloc' glob.c: In function `prefix_array': glob.c:1162: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction: 4 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake/work/make-3.81/glob. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake/work/make-3.81. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake/work/make-3.81. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/security/aide. ==================================================== ===== Aide =========================================== Making links in server ===> Building for isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.5_2 Making all in common cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -D_PATH_DHCPD_CONF=\"/usr/local/etc/dhcp d.conf\" -D_PATH_DHCPD_DB=\"/var/db/dhcpd.leases\" -D_PATH_DHCPD_PID=\"/var/ run/dhcpd.pid\" -D_PATH_DHCRELAY_PID=\"/var/run/dhcrelay.pid\" -D_PATH_DHCLI ENT_CONF=\"/usr/local/etc/dhclient.conf\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_SCRIPT=\"/usr/loc al/sbin/dhclient-script\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_DB=\"/var/db/dhclient.leases\" -D _PATH_DHCLIENT_PID=\"/var/run/dhclient.pid\" -Dwarn=dhcp_warn -DNOMINUM -DPA RANOIA -DJAIL -I/usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5 -I/usr/po rts/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5/includes -O -Wall -Wno-unused -c raw.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -D_PATH_DHCPD_CONF=\"/usr/local/etc/dhcp d.conf\" -D_PATH_DHCPD_DB=\"/var/db/dhcpd.leases\" -D_PATH_DHCPD_PID=\"/var/ run/dhcpd.pid\" -D_PATH_DHCRELAY_PID=\"/var/run/dhcrelay.pid\" -D_PATH_DHCLI ENT_CONF=\"/usr/local/etc/dhclient.conf\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_SCRIPT=\"/usr/loc al/sbin/dhclient-script\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_DB=\"/var/db/dhclient.leases\" -D _PATH_DHCLIENT_PID=\"/var/run/dhclient.pid\" -Dwarn=dhcp_warn -DNOMINUM -DPA RANOIA -DJAIL -I/usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5 -I/usr/po rts/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5/includes -O -Wall -Wno-unused -c parse.c parse.c: In function `convert_num': parse.c:635: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction: 4 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5/work.freebsd/common. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5/work.freebsd. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server. ==================================================== Jazz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 19:23:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BD416A401 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:23:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4449413C505 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1NJN2ie080828; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:23:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080223132315.0255eb90@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:24:54 -0600 To: "Jasvinder S. Bahra" , From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <003c01c8764f$de52ee50$0200010a@atlantis> References: <000901c87636$c6ef9240$0200010a@atlantis> <200802231810.10285.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <003c01c8764f$de52ee50$0200010a@atlantis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Unable to compile anything from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:23:14 -0000 At 01:11 PM 2/23/2008, Jasvinder S. Bahra wrote: > > It has a Via CPU? > > Comment that option and try again. > >Mel, > >It does indeed have a Via cpu. The box is running on a "VIA EPIA EK 8000EG" >motherboard (which has a CPU integrated into it). If I run "cat >/var/log/dmesg.today | grep CPU", I get... > >CPU: VIA C3 Nehemiah+RNG+AES (800.03-MHz 686-class CPU) > >Regardless, I commented out all three settings in /etc/make.conf (CPUTYPE, >CFLAGS and COPTFLAGS), and tried the 'make install clean' routine again. > >Unfortunately, Portupgrade, Aide and ISC-DHCP3-Server still fail, though at >a different point... > >===== Portupgrade ====================================== >config.status: creating Makefile >===> Building for ruby-1.8.6.111_1,1 >cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -c array.c >array.c: In function `rb_ary_modify': >array.c:72: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction: 4 >Please submit a full bug report, >with preprocessed source if appropriate. >See for instructions. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/work/ruby-1.8.6-p111. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade. >==================================================== > > > >===== Aide =========================================== >config.status: creating po/Makefile >config.status: creating build.sh >===> Building for gmake-3.81_2 >make all-recursive >Making all in glob >if >cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/include -O2 -fno-strict-ali >asing -pipe -MT glob.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/glob.Tpo" -c -o glob.o glob.c; >then mv -f ".deps/glob.Tpo" ".deps/glob.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/glob.Tpo"; >exit 1; fi >glob.c:150: warning: conflicting types for built-in function 'malloc' >glob.c: In function `prefix_array': >glob.c:1162: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction: 4 >Please submit a full bug report, >with preprocessed source if appropriate. >See for instructions. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake/work/make-3.81/glob. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake/work/make-3.81. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake/work/make-3.81. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gmake. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/security/aide. >==================================================== > > > >===== Aide =========================================== >Making links in server >===> Building for isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.5_2 >Making all in common >cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -D_PATH_DHCPD_CONF=\"/usr/local/etc/dhcp >d.conf\" -D_PATH_DHCPD_DB=\"/var/db/dhcpd.leases\" -D_PATH_DHCPD_PID=\"/var/ >run/dhcpd.pid\" -D_PATH_DHCRELAY_PID=\"/var/run/dhcrelay.pid\" -D_PATH_DHCLI >ENT_CONF=\"/usr/local/etc/dhclient.conf\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_SCRIPT=\"/usr/loc >al/sbin/dhclient-script\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_DB=\"/var/db/dhclient.leases\" -D >_PATH_DHCLIENT_PID=\"/var/run/dhclient.pid\" -Dwarn=dhcp_warn -DNOMINUM -DPA >RANOIA -DJAIL -I/usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5 -I/usr/po >rts/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5/includes -O -Wall -Wno-unused -c >raw.c >cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -D_PATH_DHCPD_CONF=\"/usr/local/etc/dhcp >d.conf\" -D_PATH_DHCPD_DB=\"/var/db/dhcpd.leases\" -D_PATH_DHCPD_PID=\"/var/ >run/dhcpd.pid\" -D_PATH_DHCRELAY_PID=\"/var/run/dhcrelay.pid\" -D_PATH_DHCLI >ENT_CONF=\"/usr/local/etc/dhclient.conf\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_SCRIPT=\"/usr/loc >al/sbin/dhclient-script\" -D_PATH_DHCLIENT_DB=\"/var/db/dhclient.leases\" -D >_PATH_DHCLIENT_PID=\"/var/run/dhclient.pid\" -Dwarn=dhcp_warn -DNOMINUM -DPA >RANOIA -DJAIL -I/usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5 -I/usr/po >rts/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5/includes -O -Wall -Wno-unused -c >parse.c >parse.c: In function `convert_num': >parse.c:635: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction: 4 >Please submit a full bug report, >with preprocessed source if appropriate. >See for instructions. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5/work.freebsd/common. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5/work.freebsd. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server/work/dhcp-3.0.5. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server. >==================================================== > >Jazz > > It looks like your c compiler is bad. You may want to try a binary upgrade from CD to the same version you are running. Then try the ports again. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 19:31:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE68916A401 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B7D13C447 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1NJUktv080936; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:30:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080223132508.024980a8@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:32:38 -0600 To: tonylabarbara@aol.com, norgaard@locolomo.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <8CA4445F7AA44A9-730-2E26@webmail-md07.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA4445F7AA44A9-730-2E26@webmail-md07.sysops.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: My Rebuild Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:31:08 -0000 At 09:14 AM 2/23/2008, tonylabarbara@aol.com wrote: >Now I get this when I try and log on: > > >no /boot/loader > >All I want to do is rebuild the silly FBSD! Again, I fell into this silly= =20 >loop when I tried to rebuild: > >-- Select Drive >-- FDISK Partition Editor ("Q") >-- Install Boot Manager > >and it just goes round, and round, and round. Can I just wipe the disk and= =20 >start over? And why these strange problems? I=C2=B4m not connected to the= =20 >Internet, so no possibility of virus. Never had this problem before. >Help! >Tony Tony, You don't mention what version you installing. Be sure your BIOS is not set to not allow boot sector writes. Some BIOS=20 have this set to thwart boot sector viruses. A few things you can try: You can boot FreeDOS and run booteasy from the tools folder on the FreeBSD= =20 install CD to install the boot-manager. Boot the FreeBSD install CD and use the emergency shell to check the hard= =20 drive for the correct creation of the folders and kernel. If all else fails you can reformat and start over. -Derek --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 19:36:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7012216A405 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6101813C44B for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.144] (helo=anti-virus03-07) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1JT0AT-0007jp-HD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:36:17 +0000 Received: from [82.45.71.254] (helo=atlantis) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1JT0AT-0003Lh-3x for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:36:17 +0000 Message-ID: <004401c87653$3be8ba10$0200010a@atlantis> From: "Jasvinder S. Bahra" To: References: <000901c87636$c6ef9240$0200010a@atlantis> <200802231810.10285.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <003c01c8764f$de52ee50$0200010a@atlantis> <6.0.0.22.2.20080223132315.0255eb90@mail.computinginnovations.com> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:35:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Subject: Re: Unable to compile anything from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:36:20 -0000 > It looks like your c compiler is bad. You may want to try a binary upgrade > from CD to the same version you are running. Then try the ports again. Derek, I did a make world from the RELENG_6_3 security branch. Wouldn't that suggest theres a problem with the compiler code in RELENG_6_3? How on earth could the compiler have broken? Jazz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 19:36:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724C416A406 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: from server1.grabweb.com (split.grabweb.net [67.15.22.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3419713C442 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 5865 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2008 13:09:34 -0600 Received: from batv-01-192.dsl.netins.net (HELO Sabrina.US-Webmasters.com) (207.199.193.192) by uswdns.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 23 Feb 2008 13:09:34 -0600 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:09:06 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "W. D." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20080223193619.3419713C442@mx1.freebsd.org> Cc: shigeaki@f.csce.kyushu-u.ac.jp, yongari@freebsd.org Subject: Nightmare on FreeBSD Street: NIC Drivers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:36:20 -0000 Compiled, built kernel, and world per: Still getting timeout errors. Seems like more of them with this "nfe" driver. =20 FreeBSD 6.2, Asus M2NPV-VM, nVidia Ethernet. Can anyone help me debug this problem or suggest a solid, reliable, and compatible PCI NIC to use instead? Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 19:41:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA34116A400 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA2C13C4E9 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732B71CC8B; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:41:51 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:41:49 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <000901c87636$c6ef9240$0200010a@atlantis> <200802231810.10285.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <003c01c8764f$de52ee50$0200010a@atlantis> In-Reply-To: <003c01c8764f$de52ee50$0200010a@atlantis> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802232041.50283.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Unable to compile anything from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:41:52 -0000 On Saturday 23 February 2008 20:11:18 Jasvinder S. Bahra wrote: > > It has a Via CPU? > > Comment that option and try again. > > Mel, > > It does indeed have a Via cpu. The box is running on a "VIA EPIA EK > 8000EG" motherboard (which has a CPU integrated into it). If I run "cat > /var/log/dmesg.today | grep CPU", I get... > > CPU: VIA C3 Nehemiah+RNG+AES (800.03-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Regardless, I commented out all three settings in /etc/make.conf (CPUTYPE, > CFLAGS and COPTFLAGS), and tried the 'make install clean' routine again. > > Unfortunately, Portupgrade, Aide and ISC-DHCP3-Server still fail, though at > a different point... > > ===== Portupgrade ====================================== > config.status: creating Makefile > ===> Building for ruby-1.8.6.111_1,1 > cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -I. -c > array.c array.c: In function `rb_ary_modify': > array.c:72: internal compiler error: Illegal instruction: 4 > Please submit a full bug report, > with preprocessed source if appropriate. > See for instructions. > *** Error code 1 This clearly points at a compiler bug, with the VIA cpu, but since world/kernel build cleanly and anything else bugs out quite early, I would suspect an optimization bug. Could you set the following in /etc/make.conf: CFLAGS=-pipe -O0 # capital O, number zero As a shortcut, you could go to the ruby workdir: cd `make -f /usr/ports/lang/ruby18/Makefile -V WRKSRC` then type: cc -pipe -O0 -fPIC -DRUBY_EXPORT -I. -c array.c Then again, it could be the compiler you built yourself is broken. Easy to test if you can rebuild world again now. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 19:42:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FF416A403; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10FA13C474; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:42:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1NJfvPi004248; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:41:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1NJftHh004245; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:41:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:41:55 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Daniel Gerzo In-Reply-To: <216928338.20080223200312@rulez.sk> Message-ID: <20080223204141.P4237@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <13610129926.20080223151720@rulez.sk> <20080223171450.G2920@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <216928338.20080223200312@rulez.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re[2]: gmirror on slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:42:22 -0000 >>> gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/ad4s1: Operation not permitted. >>> ha-db1# sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 > >> you try to make a mirror on used slice or some partition of that > > and what's wrong with that, actually? > how do I create gmirror-ed slice then? > > I have also tried the above commands on system that has ad4s1 and its > partitions unmounted, still getting the same error. swap off? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 19:50:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB3216A405 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:50:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb7:ef56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26BB13C45E for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (vpn180017.student.utwente.nl [130.89.180.17]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1NJo1nt002427 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:50:02 +0100 Message-ID: <47C078EC.4020907@student.utwente.nl> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:50:04 +0000 From: "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: [Wireless] Can't connect to wlan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:50:10 -0000 Howdy, I've been trying to connect my laptop, running 7.0-RC3, to my wireless network but It Isn't Working. Wpa_supplicant can find the network ok and ifconfig shows the correct SSID, authentication mode, protocol, BSSID etc. However, it also says "no carrier". So needless to say DHCP cries "no link" and fails. Any idea what the problem could be here? If you need more information, let me know and I'll cook up a more elaborate message, but I thought I'd keep it short at first, so as not to swamp the list with lots of output right away. Any help will be greatly appreciated because at the moment I'm stuck with Vista if I need the Internet and I don't like Windows... Alphons -- All right, that does it Bill [Donahue]. I'm pretty sure that killing Jesus is not very Christian. -- pope Benedict XVI, South Park episode #158 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 19:50:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C404016A402 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::5e5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6A213C46A for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com ([208.45.246.58]) (authenticated bits=0) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m1NJoKGD031232; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:50:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1NJoIjT014436; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:50:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id m1NJoI3d014434; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:50:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tbohml) From: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" Message-Id: <200802231950.m1NJoI3d014434@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net (Mel) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:50:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <200802232041.50283.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Re: Unable to compile anything from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:50:21 -0000 > > This clearly points at a compiler bug, with the VIA cpu, but since > world/kernel build cleanly and anything else bugs out quite early, I would > suspect an optimization bug. > This may have nothing to do with it, but little story... We used to buy whiteboxed machines, and as a test we would build world and compile perl. One time world was fine, perl failed, and would always seem to fail in the same spot. The company replaced every part and narrowed it down to the power supply. Once they changed that out, perl compiled fine. The next box had the same problems, perl stopped compiling in the same place, and found out they re-used the power supply. Changed it out, perl compiled. We convinced them to throw away the power supply (I'm sure someone else ended up with it). May be nothing of the sort, but just wanted to relay a weird experience we ran into. Tuc/TBOH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 20:02:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BB116A407; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from virtual.micronet.sk (smtp.micronet.sk [84.16.32.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9882213C45E; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8382810E8C9; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:01:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at virtual.micronet.sk Received: from virtual.micronet.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virtual.micronet.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 99cHpW-RtPRv; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:01:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from DANGER-PC (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2448510E88F; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:01:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:04:24 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.3) Professional Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <367339908.20080223210424@rulez.sk> To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080223204141.P4237@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <13610129926.20080223151720@rulez.sk> <20080223171450.G2920@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <216928338.20080223200312@rulez.sk> <20080223204141.P4237@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Gerzo , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re[3]: gmirror on slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:02:29 -0000 Hello Wojciech, Saturday, February 23, 2008, 8:41:55 PM, you wrote: >>>> gmirror: Can't store metadata on /dev/ad4s1: Operation not permitted. >>>> ha-db1# sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 >> >>> you try to make a mirror on used slice or some partition of that >> >> and what's wrong with that, actually? >> how do I create gmirror-ed slice then? >> >> I have also tried the above commands on system that has ad4s1 and its >> partitions unmounted, still getting the same error. > swap off? no swap being used. -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 20:10:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C437916A402 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F2E13C4E5 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992C31CC8B; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:10:24 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:10:22 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47C078EC.4020907@student.utwente.nl> In-Reply-To: <47C078EC.4020907@student.utwente.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802232110.23317.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" Subject: Re: [Wireless] Can't connect to wlan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:10:25 -0000 On Saturday 23 February 2008 20:50:04 Alphons "Fonz" van Werven wrote: > Howdy, > > I've been trying to connect my laptop, running 7.0-RC3, to my wireless > network but It Isn't Working. > > Wpa_supplicant can find the network ok and ifconfig shows the correct SSID, > authentication mode, protocol, BSSID etc. However, it also says "no > carrier". So needless to say DHCP cries "no link" and fails. First cause to check is authentication keys. I'm going to assume you're using WEP, in which case the nr.1 cause with wpa_supplicant is that you're trying to use wepkey1 rather then wepkey0. It should look like this: wep_key0=FE0lblablablehexkey wep_tx_keyidx=0 If it's not wep you're using, now would be a good time to mention what you are using :) -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 20:56:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84ED916A403 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5412E13C45D for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JT1QG-000P3R-PN; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:56:40 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JT1Rl-0001hy-3E; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:58:13 +0300 To: "Jasvinder S. Bahra" References: <000901c87636$c6ef9240$0200010a@atlantis> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:58:13 +0300 In-Reply-To: <000901c87636$c6ef9240$0200010a@atlantis> (Jasvinder S. Bahra's message of "Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:11:41 -0000") Message-ID: <60952986@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to compile anything from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:56:42 -0000 On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:11:41 -0000 Jasvinder S. Bahra wrote: > I have installed FreeBSD 6.3 onto a new machine. > I cvsup'd ('src-all' and 'ports-all', RELENG_6_3). Did you set a tag RELENG_6_3 for ports? I'm not sure what you may get but RELENG_6_3_0 is for the release tag and "." (i.e. a dot) for up-to-date ports. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 21:05:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C652116A405 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:610:1908:1000:204:23ff:feb5:7e66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5363B13C467 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (vpn180017.student.utwente.nl [130.89.180.17]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m1NL5b41014554; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:05:38 +0100 Message-ID: <47C08AA4.80009@student.utwente.nl> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:05:40 +0000 From: "Alphons \"Fonz\" van Werven" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel References: <47C078EC.4020907@student.utwente.nl> <200802232110.23317.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200802232110.23317.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Wireless] Can't connect to wlan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:05:45 -0000 Mel wrote: > If it's not wep you're using, now would be a good time to mention what you > are using :) Okay. I was hoping that the "no carrier" thing indicated some trivial mistake on my part but since it's WPA2 I'm using I'll post a more elaborate message. It may take a while to gather all the data, commands, output, dmesg greps etc. though. To be continued, Alphons -- All right, that does it Bill [Donahue]. I'm pretty sure that killing Jesus is not very Christian. -- pope Benedict XVI, South Park episode #158 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 21:14:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A7816A403 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu (math051.cs.arizona.edu [150.135.82.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C95913C44B for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JT1h4-0001cx-St for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:14:03 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-220.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.220] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp-gs.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JT1h4-0001cp-OT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:14:02 -0700 Message-ID: <47C08C98.50905@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:14:00 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47C078EC.4020907@student.utwente.nl> <200802232110.23317.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47C08AA4.80009@student.utwente.nl> In-Reply-To: <47C08AA4.80009@student.utwente.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Subject: Re: [Wireless] Can't connect to wlan X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:14:04 -0000 Alphons "Fonz" van Werven wrote: > Mel wrote: > >> If it's not wep you're using, now would be a good time to mention >> what you >> are using :) > > Okay. I was hoping that the "no carrier" thing indicated some trivial > mistake on my part but since it's WPA2 I'm using I'll post a more > elaborate > message. It may take a while to gather all the data, commands, output, > dmesg > greps etc. though. > > To be continued, > > Alphons > Did you read the handbook about wireless support. The chapter is very well written. The first thing I would make sure is that you have proper drivers loaded into the kernel. Generic kernel doesn't contain drivers for wpa support. wpa supplicant file looks good. Other things to notice is that some Wi cards do not support WPA or/and WPA2:-( if I remember correctly. Make sure your WiFi router is in Wi mode. We had people trouble shooting WiFi network for hours just to realize that they use WEP. Do not use WPE unless you set up IPsec or OpenVPN. I would definitely set IPsec even with WAP or WAP2. You might want to turn off the PF until you configure thins. Other than that much more info is needed to trouble shoot Best, Predrag Best From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 22:34:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08DB16A404; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B99413C442; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1NMYPif004828; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:34:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m1NMYOhI004825; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:34:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:34:24 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Daniel Gerzo In-Reply-To: <367339908.20080223210424@rulez.sk> Message-ID: <20080223233311.I4822@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <13610129926.20080223151720@rulez.sk> <20080223171450.G2920@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <216928338.20080223200312@rulez.sk> <20080223204141.P4237@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <367339908.20080223210424@rulez.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re[3]: gmirror on slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:34:38 -0000 >>> >>> and what's wrong with that, actually? >>> how do I create gmirror-ed slice then? >>> >>> I have also tried the above commands on system that has ad4s1 and its >>> partitions unmounted, still getting the same error. >> swap off? > > no swap being used. sorry i can't help you more :( but check with gmirror status if it isn't created ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 22:56:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C089016A401 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E42513C448 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.136] (helo=anti-virus01-07) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1JT3IT-0003m8-O2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:56:45 +0000 Received: from [82.45.71.254] (helo=atlantis) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1JT3IT-00067q-BG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:56:45 +0000 Message-ID: <005701c8766f$3d3af2e0$0200010a@atlantis> From: "Jasvinder S. Bahra" To: References: <000901c87636$c6ef9240$0200010a@atlantis> <200802231810.10285.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <003c01c8764f$de52ee50$0200010a@atlantis> <200802232041.50283.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:55:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Subject: Re: Unable to compile anything from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:56:46 -0000 > Could you set the following in /etc/make.conf: > CFLAGS=-pipe -O0 # capital O, number zero Mel, You've cracked it. I set CFLAGS as above, and lang/ruby18 installed successfully. What does this mean? The package did install, so the compiler isn't broken. Maybe an optimisation bug as you mentioned? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 22:58:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199B716A406 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1AC13C45A for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.144] (helo=anti-virus03-07) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1JT3Jy-0004Bq-8A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:58:18 +0000 Received: from [82.45.71.254] (helo=atlantis) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1JT3Jx-0005OX-SP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:58:17 +0000 Message-ID: <005801c8766f$74620f10$0200010a@atlantis> From: "Jasvinder S. Bahra" To: References: <000901c87636$c6ef9240$0200010a@atlantis> <60952986@bs1.sp34.ru> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:57:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Subject: Re: Unable to compile anything from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:58:19 -0000 > Did you set a tag RELENG_6_3 for ports? I'm not sure what you may get > but RELENG_6_3_0 is for the release tag and "." (i.e. a dot) for > up-to-date ports. Boris, Yes, I did indeed use the "." tag in my cvsup supfile... ===== supfile ====================== *default host=cvsup.uk.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_3 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress *default umask=022 src-all ports-all tag=. ================================= In any case, thanks to Mel, i've successfully managed to install portupgrade. Thanks for your help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 23:32:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE27D16A409 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19A213C442 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76ACC1CC8B; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:32:07 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:32:05 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <000901c87636$c6ef9240$0200010a@atlantis> <200802232041.50283.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <005701c8766f$3d3af2e0$0200010a@atlantis> In-Reply-To: <005701c8766f$3d3af2e0$0200010a@atlantis> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200802240032.06108.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Unable to compile anything from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:32:09 -0000 On Saturday 23 February 2008 23:55:51 Jasvinder S. Bahra wrote: > > Could you set the following in /etc/make.conf: > > CFLAGS=-pipe -O0 # capital O, number zero > > Mel, > > You've cracked it. I set CFLAGS as above, and lang/ruby18 > installed successfully. > > What does this mean? The package did install, so the compiler > isn't broken. Maybe an optimisation bug as you mentioned? Yes. Not many use VIA cpu's, so I think it would help a lot if you'd do a send-pr. Include a full dmesg so the CPU flags can be seen. The default on FreeBSD is to compile with -O2 now, so either cc should disable the specific optimization for which there is no matching CPU instruction internally, or via CPUTYPE or similar constructs, the optimization flag for this should be turned off. -O2 is a collection of optimizations that can be turned on/off individually. -O = -O1 is a smaller set, -O0 turns it off entirely. -- Mel