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Date:      Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:06:13 +0100 (BST)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, ed@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r193734 - in head: lib/libusb sys/amd64/amd64 sys/i386/i386 sys/i386/xen sys/sys
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.0906091204360.62661@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <20090608.164518.-1264106964.imp@bsdimp.com>
References:  <200906081823.n58INhX8038125@svn.freebsd.org> <20090608.164518.-1264106964.imp@bsdimp.com>

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On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, M. Warner Losh wrote:

> In message: <200906081823.n58INhX8038125@svn.freebsd.org>
>            Ed Schouten <ed@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> :   It turns out our compiler in stable/7 can't build this code anymore.
> :   Even though my opinion is that those people should just run `make
> :   kernel-toolchain' before building a kernel, I am willing to wait and
> :   commit this after we've branched stable/8.
>
> As a matter of policy, the project has always supported a RELENG_X -> 
> CURRENT upgrade with a simple buildworld.  The issue of building a kernel by 
> hand across releases has been targeted as one of those areas that can break, 
> but only if there's a really good reason to do so.
>
> Just FYI to everybody..

As compared to building 7.x kernels on 6.x, we got significantly farther 
through the release process before bumping into a problem, FWIW.  I certainly 
appreciate the ability to short-cut builds by doing them incrementally with 
existing toolchains, and while there are good reasons to break that (such as 
taking advantage of new syntax to improve the kernel -- for example, C99 
structure initialization) my hope is generally to avoid breaking it unless 
such a good reason turns up.  Usually, in the past, it's been share/mk 
incompatibility that's broken the build rather than C syntax, though.

Robert N M Watson
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge



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