From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 8 06:47:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA10900 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 06:47:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from phoenix.its.rpi.edu (dec@phoenix.its.rpi.edu [128.113.161.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA10895; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 06:47:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dec@phoenix.its.rpi.edu) Received: from localhost (dec@localhost) by phoenix.its.rpi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA06684; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:46:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dec@phoenix.its.rpi.edu) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:46:52 -0500 (EST) From: "David E. Cross" To: John Fieber cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Andrew Stesin , freebsd-hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: F00F patch problems for 2.2.5-RELEASE (incomplete patch.) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, John Fieber wrote: > I don't have an answer, but checking back in the file I was rather > stunned to notice that there is NO date information for any of the > updates. If you are applying the supplied patches, that is probably > okay, but a big problem for anyone being very conservative and/or > selective about tracking stable. As has been brought up recently, > blindly tracking a "stable" kernel without updating user-land utilities > can bite you--I learned this from personal experience. Yes, I would like to know how to see what the changelogs are for each version of a file... I know it is possible, I have seen excerpts posted from them here occasionally. Re: -stable kernel and userland conflicts... I always do a make world whenever I CVSUP-stable.... mostly to get possible security fixes to -stable in userland code. And with the ease that FreeBSD allows you to do make world, it is really a 'Good Idea'(tm) IMO. -- David Cross ACS Consultant