Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:00:13 GMT From: Nicolas Gieczewski <nicolas@nixsoftware.com> To: freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/114611: [NEW PORT] net-p2p/freenet05: An anonymous censorship-resistant peer-to-peer network Message-ID: <200708291400.l7TE0D5g010147@freefall.freebsd.org>
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The following reply was made to PR ports/114611; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nicolas Gieczewski <nicolas@nixsoftware.com> To: Volker Stolz <vs@FreeBSD.org> Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/114611: [NEW PORT] net-p2p/freenet05: An anonymous censorship-resistant peer-to-peer network Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 8:24:27 -0500 On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:50:53 +0800, Volker Stolz <vs@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > PR ports/110535 indicates why Freenet 0.5 has been removed before: Thanks for the follow-up. I'm aware of the reason why this port was removed before, and I'm afraid it's not valid. Unfortunately, I found out the port had been deleted when it was already too late to comment. Let's see: > Lioux long ago dropped maintainership and the the Freenet > development team has dropped all support for Freenet 0.5 Correct. This is however, IMHO, not grounds for removal of a port that still works and is in use (see below). > and has moved to make the 0.5 network unusable to force 0.7 > migration. This is total misinformation. There has been no such move. To the contrary, the 0.5 network is working better than ever due to the low churn rate. Because the download link to 0.5 on the official site has been moved to the bottom of the page and is no longer being actively promoted, the 0.5 network gets fewer new users, but those it does get are people who, being disappointed with the _unstable_ 0.7 branch, have specifically decided to switch to 0.5 and _remain_ there. Because Freenet uses distributed stor age, the network suffers with every new user who joins the network just to give it a try and then leaves shortly thereafter, taking a lot of storage with them. Because this rarely happens on 0.5 these days, it has become quite fast--even faster than 0.7 according to people who are on both networks. > Freenet 0.7 is incompatbile with 0.5 and doesn't have stable > releases yet (hence unable to make a port for it). Correct, which is precisely why I think the 0.5 port should not have been removed in the first place. It is also why I renamed this port to freenet05 in preparation for a potential future stable release of 0.7 under the name of "freenet". Note however that 0.7 is still in its alpha stages, and it may be a long time before a stable, portable build is released. > I don't think the 0.5 version should be resurrected. I don't think it should have ever been removed based on the misleading assertions of one individual. Freenet 0.5 is still _the_ stable branch of Freenet, it still works, it works very well, and it is still being used by many people. In addition to bringing the port back from the attic, I updated it to the latest build (yes, two newer builds were released after the port was last updated) and improved the Makefile and the rc scripts. Again, thank you for the follow-up, and I look forward to hearing what you think. Nick
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