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Date:      Sat, 03 Nov 2018 17:24:17 -0600
From:      Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
To:        ticso@cicely.de, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>, Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely7.cicely.de>
Subject:   Re: GENERICSD images?
Message-ID:  <1541287457.52306.13.camel@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20181103225543.GH79858@cicely7.cicely.de>
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On Sat, 2018-11-03 at 23:55 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 03:18:21PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 1:11 PM Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely7.cicely.d
> > e> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 11:51:38AM -0700, Russell Haley wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 8:28 AM Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely7.cice
> > > > ly.de>
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > When and how would you use the GENERICSD images?
> > > > > I assume they have a generic kernel, but do they need a
> > > > > specific u-boot
> > > > > installed before they can get used?
> > > > > What systems are supported?
> > > > > 
> > > > Hi Bernd,
> > > > 
> > > > I could be mistaken, but I think you are referring to the SD
> > > > images that
> > > > can be downloaded for various Arm boards found here:
> > > > https://www.freebsd.org/where.html
> > > > 
> > > > See the SD Image column for each currently supported FreeBSD
> > > > version.
> > > These
> > > > 
> > > > images are for "well supported" Arm boards and are an easy way
> > > > to get up
> > > > and running. To apply an image to an SD card, I typically use
> > > > xzcat <img-name-here>.img.xz | dd of=/dev/da0 bs=1M
> > > > 
> > > > where ./dev/da0 is whatever device your SD card is found at
> > > > (check dmesg
> > > if
> > > > 
> > > > you're not sure. "geom part list /dev/da0" can also be helpful
> > > > )
> > > > 
> > > > UFS will automatically grow the partition to the size of the SD
> > > > card on
> > > > first boot.
> > > > 
> > > > If you wish to create your own image, you can look at crochet
> > > > (a build
> > > too
> > > > 
> > > > written in bash) or there is an excellent write up by Udit on
> > > > building
> > > > custom images here:
> > > > 
> > > http://uditagarwal.in/index.php/2018/04/17/building-freebsds-sdio
> > > -driver-for-beaglebone-black/
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hope that helps?
> > > No, I didn't ask about those images in general, I specifically
> > > asked about
> > > the use case of the GENERICSD image.
> > > AFAIK crochet isn't advised anymore.
> > > But the link is interesting, although unrelated to my question
> > > and it is
> > > specifically about beaglebones - Allwinner based boards have to
> > > be handled
> > > differently as they expect their bootcode at a specific media
> > > location.
> > > 
> > We now have a GENERIC kernel. This image is built with that kernel.
> > You're
> > expected to roll your own u-boot into this image for the board you
> > are
> > using. There are several u-boot ports that are known to work (or
> > worked at
> > one time).
> That's a good simplification.
> I already had known about the GENERIC kernel, but this image was new
> for
> me as I wondered how it is handling the board specific boot code.
> 
> > 
> > There's a script that will add u-boot for the board based on
> > metadata the
> > port installs, but I'm having trouble finding it at the moment to
> > give you
> > more specifics...
> Would be cool to know when you or someone else find it.
> So far searching for GENERICSD only showed several fileservers.
> 

A cool thing that could come of this is a website where you choose your
board type and it creates on the fly a burnable image for you to
download from the GENERICSD plus the board-specific boot stuff.

-- Ian



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