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Date:      Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:17:06 -0800
From:      Maksim Yevmenkin <maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com>
To:        Sam Leffler <sam@freebsd.org>
Cc:        usb@freebsd.org, Gavin Atkinson <gavin@freebsd.org>, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HEADSUP usb2/usb4bsd to become default in GENERIC
Message-ID:  <bb4a86c70902081917r7085e867r776606c52f3d9d8c@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <498F2EBA.9000106@freebsd.org>
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On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Sam Leffler <sam@freebsd.org> wrote:

[...]

>>>>>     - Update GENERIC to use usb2 device names.
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't there a plan to rename usb2 devices to match oldusb names (where
>>>> applicable) once oldusb had been killed? I don't see it in the list.
>>>
>>> Probably, although coming from the other side as a user I find it pretty
>>> annoying when there's somewhat gratuitous changes to the kernel config
>>> files that I don't really care about that cause my kernels to break.
>>
>> The vast majority of our users do not run -CURRENT, and so haven't had
>> to change config files yet.
>>
>> One day, those users will be migrating from 7.x to 8.x, and shouldn't
>> need to change their kernel config for a "somewhat gratuitous change".
>>
>> Your argument only works if people had already had to change their
>> config files once (usb -> usb2), and that by renaming these back they
>> will have to change their kernel config back.  Only people running
>> -CURRENT will end up having to do this twice (or indeed at all) if the
>> rename takes place, end users will not need to do it at all.
>>
>>> Basically, calling it usb2 isn't as bad as renaming it back to "usb"
>>> as it's less disruptive in my book.
>>
>> Again, I disagree.
>
> I agree with your comments.  And, as I've said previously, any name changes
> from usb1 will require _all_ documentation (manual pages, handbook, etc) to
> change; not a good idea.

i second that. i would really like to see old module names to be
preserved as much as possible.

thanks,
max



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