From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Fri Jan 17 12:58:55 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4A922DC41 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47zh2k2LJXz4SlS for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1isRD9-0004Pe-7b; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:58:51 +0300 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:58:51 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Eugene Grosbein Cc: "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: svn commit: r356758 - in head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall: . scripts Message-ID: <20200117125851.GK38096@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20200117000333.GI38096@zxy.spb.ru> <3b4b4bda-75a3-3019-bc02-ecd6acacd77f@grosbein.net> <20200117112151.GJ38096@zxy.spb.ru> <0f117603-d995-b32d-68fb-36cc319d9b79@grosbein.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0f117603-d995-b32d-68fb-36cc319d9b79@grosbein.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47zh2k2LJXz4SlS X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of slw@zxy.spb.ru has no SPF policy when checking 195.70.199.98) smtp.mailfrom=slw@zxy.spb.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.81 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[zxy.spb.ru]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.22)[0.219,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.60)[0.604,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5495, ipnet:195.70.192.0/19, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.09)[asn: 5495(0.42), country: RU(0.01)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:58:55 -0000 On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 07:35:02PM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 17.01.2020 18:21, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > >> Considering /usr/ports, /usr/src and /usr/obj and amount of RAM > >> needed to keep metadata in ZFS ARC > > > > /usr/ports, /usr/src and /usr/obj don't need be exist on low-RAM > > install -- use poudriere and release build on dedicated build host and > > applay binary update. > > Poudriere itself has its disadvantages. It's heavy and it's unable to produce minimal set of target packages > suitable for "pkg install -U *.txz" command without build-only dependencies. Can you do it by /usr/ports way? No. And what you point? > I'd like to stick with poudriere but could not. Its supposed work-style does not worth it. > > Real Work (TM) sometimes presents the need to apply patches, so > /usr/src and /usr/obj may become are unavoidable. I am do w/ dedicated builhost, produce custom build of base.txz/kernel.txz/kernel.CUSTOM.txz and applay binary updates w/ BE. What you point? > 1GB-RAM UFS system runs just fine with such trees being stand-alone and does not require extra build system and nor its overhead. clang very hard to compile in 1GB RAM. Anyway, my 1GB ZFS system run just fine.