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Date:      Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:21:05 +0100
From:      Rolf Nielsen <listreader@lazlarlyricon.com>
To:        Sagara Wijetunga <sagara@tomahawk.com.sg>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: malformed man pages
Message-ID:  <4B1B4D51.3050906@lazlarlyricon.com>
In-Reply-To: <4B1A20E6.7070300@tomahawk.com.sg>
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Sagara Wijetunga wrote:
> Charlie Kester wrote:
>> On Fri 04 Dec 2009 at 22:38:22 PST Sagara Wijetunga wrote:
>>> Michael Powell wrote:
>>>> Sagara Wijetunga wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>> We use /usr/bin/less from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/less, the
>>>>> less-382.tar.gz, unpatched.
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>>> Does the less need to be patched in FreeBSD? If so, is there such a
>>>>> patch exist?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Uhmm, this may sound a little strange, but why not use the one 
>>>> included as part of the system? In other words, there was no need to 
>>>> 'install' less. Remove whatever you installed and use the right one. 
>>>> It even has a man page, e.g., man less and you will see a man page 
>>>> for the included one unless you've made a total mess of your man pages.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect there may be a possibility of bringing "Linuxisms" to your 
>>>> approach to FreeBSD. While there may be some amount of crossover, 
>>>> FreeBSD is not Linux. Learn FreeBSD as if it were new to you and 
>>>> leave the Linuxisms aside.
>>>>
>>>> -Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> In Tomahawk Desktop, we try to make as much as possible all 
>>> components of the OS are separately installable by the user, 
>>> therefore, all components are separately upgradeable. We have a 
>>> really running well OS based on FreeBSD sources though there are some 
>>> hopefully minor issues to be resolved. We are about to release the OS
>>> for developer preview.
>>
>> In other words, you're only using the kernel from FreeBSD, but replacing
>> all or most of the userland stuff with your own versions? Not only the
>> stuff in /usr/local/bin but also stuff in /usr/bin?
>>
>> As Michael said, that's a Linuxism.
>>
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> Yes, mostly we use FreeBSD kernel and libs. Almost everything else is 
> installed separately, eg. gcc, binutils, etc. are patched and installed 
> under package users. We have so far installed about 550 packages, 
> FreeBSD is just one of them. You can list what is installed from FreeBSD 
> by running listpkg -s freebsd, -s is to get a sorted output.
> 
> But we still use a smaller number of FreeBSD userland stuff for the 
> moment but the objective is to drop that also in our future versions and 
> replace them with proper packages from original projects.
> 
> You may call it Linuxism but we have produced an user upgradeable 
> system, our users do not have wait till ports are ready, eg, Qt 4.6 is 
> not ready on FreeBSD ports tree, we are releasing Tomahawk Desktop with 
> Qt 4.6, OpenVG, etc. To install KDE 4.4, you just download the sources 
> and compile, that's all. We are not 100% ready but we are at least 99% 
> there. Hopefully many may appreciate our efforts.
> 
> Regards
> Sagara
> 
> 
> 
> 
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So basically you're trying to create a GNU/FreeBSD (GNU OS with a 
FreeBSD kernel, analogously to GNU/Linux being GNU OS with a Linux 
kernel)? Why not just stick with Linux?



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