From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 6 06:21:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D8A106566B for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 06:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from proxy1.bredband.net (proxy1.bredband.net [195.54.101.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224678FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 06:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (195.54.127.165) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4AD3E1C0017D4813 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:21:07 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgtEAKPbGktV44PPPGdsb2JhbACBS5dDglQBAQEBN7gwhDMEhWw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,349,1257116400"; d="scan'208";a="11948148" Received: from c-cf83e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO lazlar.kicks-ass.net) ([85.227.131.207]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 06 Dec 2009 07:21:06 +0100 Message-ID: <4B1B4D51.3050906@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:21:05 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091130) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sagara Wijetunga References: <4B18CD57.5090108@tomahawk.com.sg> <20091204193219.GA84026@dan.emsphone.com> <4B19EC94.8040901@tomahawk.com.sg> <4B19FFDE.2010709@tomahawk.com.sg> <20091205072615.GI4955@comcast.net> <4B1A20E6.7070300@tomahawk.com.sg> In-Reply-To: <4B1A20E6.7070300@tomahawk.com.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: malformed man pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:21:09 -0000 Sagara Wijetunga wrote: > Charlie Kester wrote: >> On Fri 04 Dec 2009 at 22:38:22 PST Sagara Wijetunga wrote: >>> Michael Powell wrote: >>>> Sagara Wijetunga wrote: >>>> >>>> [snip] >>>>> We use /usr/bin/less from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/less, the >>>>> less-382.tar.gz, unpatched. >>>> >>>> Why? >>>>> Does the less need to be patched in FreeBSD? If so, is there such a >>>>> patch exist? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Uhmm, this may sound a little strange, but why not use the one >>>> included as part of the system? In other words, there was no need to >>>> 'install' less. Remove whatever you installed and use the right one. >>>> It even has a man page, e.g., man less and you will see a man page >>>> for the included one unless you've made a total mess of your man pages. >>>> >>>> I suspect there may be a possibility of bringing "Linuxisms" to your >>>> approach to FreeBSD. While there may be some amount of crossover, >>>> FreeBSD is not Linux. Learn FreeBSD as if it were new to you and >>>> leave the Linuxisms aside. >>>> >>>> -Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> In Tomahawk Desktop, we try to make as much as possible all >>> components of the OS are separately installable by the user, >>> therefore, all components are separately upgradeable. We have a >>> really running well OS based on FreeBSD sources though there are some >>> hopefully minor issues to be resolved. We are about to release the OS >>> for developer preview. >> >> In other words, you're only using the kernel from FreeBSD, but replacing >> all or most of the userland stuff with your own versions? Not only the >> stuff in /usr/local/bin but also stuff in /usr/bin? >> >> As Michael said, that's a Linuxism. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Yes, mostly we use FreeBSD kernel and libs. Almost everything else is > installed separately, eg. gcc, binutils, etc. are patched and installed > under package users. We have so far installed about 550 packages, > FreeBSD is just one of them. You can list what is installed from FreeBSD > by running listpkg -s freebsd, -s is to get a sorted output. > > But we still use a smaller number of FreeBSD userland stuff for the > moment but the objective is to drop that also in our future versions and > replace them with proper packages from original projects. > > You may call it Linuxism but we have produced an user upgradeable > system, our users do not have wait till ports are ready, eg, Qt 4.6 is > not ready on FreeBSD ports tree, we are releasing Tomahawk Desktop with > Qt 4.6, OpenVG, etc. To install KDE 4.4, you just download the sources > and compile, that's all. We are not 100% ready but we are at least 99% > there. Hopefully many may appreciate our efforts. > > Regards > Sagara > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > So basically you're trying to create a GNU/FreeBSD (GNU OS with a FreeBSD kernel, analogously to GNU/Linux being GNU OS with a Linux kernel)? Why not just stick with Linux?