From owner-cvs-all Fri Oct 4 16:51:52 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E19537B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 16:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C82A43E4A; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 16:51:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g94NpR20339830; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:51:31 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200210041840.36226.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> References: <200210041120.g94BKJmn001334@freefall.freebsd.org> <200210041840.36226.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:51:26 -0400 To: Mikhail Teterin , Poul-Henning Kamp From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libexpat Makefile libbsdxml.3 Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.3 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 6:40 PM -0400 10/4/02, Mikhail Teterin wrote: >On Friday 04 October 2002 07:20 am, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >= Ok, concensus was to install libexpat under a "private >= brandname", and after some deliberation the name "libbsdxml" >= was chosen since it conveys the two most important attributes: >= "Private to FreeBSD" and "XML". > >I tried searching for this discussion, but can not find. Can anyone >post a URL? This "privatizing" looks similar to the -lmd vs. OpenSSL, >and the magnitude of the different -liberty-s. Why make the third >party software install expat, if the functionality already comes >with FreeBSD? The discussion was on the public lists (current and ports), under the subject of "expat2 in the base system?". I do not have a URL handy, but there were a many messages on the topic, coming from a variety of developers. Third-party software should install whatever expat2 it needs. This expat2 is in the base system for use by the base system. Ie, we want to avoid any big argument when the next great version of expat2 comes along. This one is for use in the base system, and that use (and that use alone) will determine which version it is. If we want the base system to include a stripped-down expat2, then it will be stripped down. If we later decide to drop expat2 from the base system, it will be dropped. This consensus was reached based on the experiences with perl in the base system. Note that this name can be changed in the future, if we do decide to do more with expat and if a name change seems appropriate. We just wanted to get expat2 in the system right now, while keeping plenty of options open for what we may decide to do in the future. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message