From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jul 26 18:55:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17299 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:55:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from superior.mooseriver.com (dynamic39.pm04.san-mateo.best.com [205.149.174.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17283 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:55:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by superior.mooseriver.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18968; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:55:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch) Message-ID: <19980726185504.A18569@mooseriver.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:55:04 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Brett Glass , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: O'Reilly still supporting FSF exclusively Reply-To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com References: <199807270004.SAA10226@lariat.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199807270004.SAA10226@lariat.lariat.org>; from Brett Glass on Sun, Jul 26, 1998 at 06:04:01PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 26, 1998 at 06:04:01PM -0600, Brett Glass wrote: >As of today, O'Reilly's Web page at > >http://opensource.oreilly.com/townmeet.html > >still says that all attendees at the company's "Open Source Town Hall" will >be required to donate $10 to the Free Software Foundation, an organization >that disparages all open source software efforts other than those which >support its specific philosophy and restrictive licensing terms. Some "Town >Hall!" > >If O'Reilly is not responsive, it may be time for us to -- however >reluctantly -- engage in some appropriate form of protest -- perhaps >buttons, literature, or refusal to pay the $10 "donation" at the event. >While I know that Jordan has always been conciliatory toward the Linux camp >as a whole, I think it's important that he speak out strongly against >forced support of a group that openly disparages the methodologies of other >open source development teams, including Apache, XFree86, and others. >Perhaps we can hand out 2.2.6 disks (which will now be obsolete) with an >appropriate message attached, indicating that the GPL is NOT the only way >and that this is an example of what can be done under a less restrictive >license. Walnut Creek people: What does WC CD-ROM do with its obsolete >disks? I can't think of a better use. Brett, I have been following the discussion over the last week about the Open Source Town Meeting. I understand you are unhappy with O'Reilly's choice of recipient of the funds raised by this meeting. I must say I do have a lot of sympathy for your position but I must urge caution and moderation. There is a lot of reason for the Linux, FreeBSD, GNU, FSF, OpenBSD, NetBSD (did I forget anybody) to snipe at each other. But I must remind you that these people are not the enemy. The enemy is microsoft. We got into a factional fight back in the 80's and 90's and in the end we, the Unix community, got fucked not billy gates. We would be better off organizing and finding common ground rather than fight amongst ourselves. Remember there is strength in numbers. I urge you to focus that good energy you have toward organizing and focusing on your common enemy. My $0.02 Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 2.2.7 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses LocalWords: Linux To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message