Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 08:31:04 -0800 From: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> To: Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org> Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter. Message-ID: <3E11C648.F0C88A0B@mindspring.com> References: <200212311125.gBVBPG181119@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org>
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Dave Hayes wrote: > >> You are not allowed to place your hand on their jaw and close > >> their mouth. > > > > But I'm allowed to slam the door, right? > > It's your door. It's their mouth. The analogy doesn't apply in an > electronic medium. Controlling another's communication is not > honorable. Tuning out unwanted communication is honorable. The > distinction is obvious, even if you don't want it to be. Making my mail server not accept connections from their IP address is the same as locking my door. > > A blacklist is a just lock that you obtain from a third party, > > which will not open for people you don't want coming through > > your door. > > Nonsense. Blacklists are evil, most always generate false positives, > and have nothign to do with locks and doors. Locking your keys in your car is a false positive. Taking the wrong keys with you when you leave, and then coming back to find your spouse has locked you out is a false positive. Can you address these physical world false positives for us, so that we then have a model we can apply in the electronic world? Thanks... > > Hardly; people can make their own decisions as much as they > > want, particularly when it comes to blacklisting of SPAM'mers > > by their ISP: discontinue their ISP service, and obtain service > > from some other ISP. > > Exactly what I recommend when a blacklisting service includes > innocents in an attempt to force others to do their will. Then I don't see why it's a problem, if you already have a solution in hand. > Zealotry, even in the name of science, is a strong poison. As is any zealotry. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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