Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:14:41 +0100 From: Johan Bucht <jbucht@gmail.com> To: by <free7by@yahoo.com> Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Erich Dollansky <erich@alogt.com> Subject: Re: Something related to C and C++ Message-ID: <CABze5AD6STPLfriTJJazM%2BqhHJkVtBMgMzNWsQi%2B6vMkWox_0g@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <611B8DE5-F593-4574-96AB-0965CA7EDF33@yahoo.com> References: <B2051FAA-63AA-4F96-90BA-84157CE1F7AB@yahoo.com> <20140317103830.53c42ade@X220.alogt.com> <611B8DE5-F593-4574-96AB-0965CA7EDF33@yahoo.com>
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Working in higher level languages like Java, Ruby, Python and C++ does have some advantages to C and some disadvantages. There are always trade offs and there will always be languages closer to the domain that will be more elegant to solve specific problems. If you're mainly doing programming close to the hardware the abstractions from those higher level languages doesn't add much value and the runtime with garbage collection and more is something you probably need to be able to turn off. It's of course possible to implement a lot of the features in higher level languages in lower level ones, but the syntax will not be that suitable for it and you need to impose restrictions on yourself instead of the language doing it for you. For some tasks C is too high level and Assembler is needed but for most of the tasks any language will do and it's a matter of personal taste. /Johan On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:50 AM, by <free7by@yahoo.com> wrote: > Well, I think C++'s popular has something related to C's popular use, but > it contains too much, I prefer simple tool, do one thing, and do it well, > no more extras, and build a system with their combinations, at least the > base system. > > - by > > > On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:38, Erich Dollansky <erich@alogt.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:20:55 +0800 > > by <free7by@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > as C++ is C plus 'some' extras, just start with C. When you know C - > > which you have to know anyway to write C++ programs - you can add C++ > > to your knowledge. > > > > Never forget that object orientated programming is much older than C++ > > and can be done in most languages. I did my first steps in object > > orientated programming in 8080 assembler without even knowing that > > what I did will be later be known as object orientated programming. > > > > The little programming I still do is all done in C but using some of > > the 'addons' of C++. So, all my sources are .cpp files. > > > > Erich > >> Hi, > >> At first, I would say, I do not want to lead to a holy war between > >> programming languages, and I am a newbie in this field, but I am > >> confused about this, so I want get some answers or discusses from > >> here to help me thinking about this. I found that in IT industry, C++ > >> has more and more users, I can understand why they do this, C++ can > >> make them build system more easy than C does. okay, I just know a > >> little about C++, but in my feeling, C++ can make you do things in a > >> higher place. Yes, C++ is great, but for me, it is too difficult, or > >> I would say, it is too complicated. I got two books in my hand, one > >> is <<The C Programming Language>>, another is <<The C++ Programming > >> Language>>. Just consider from the weight : ) You can find something. > >> Language>>In the past, GCC use C, but now it turn to C++, and LLVM is > >> Language>>written by C++. Yes I prefer C now, and you may say, you > >> Language>>have not use these two languages deeply, how could you > >> Language>>judge them? Yes, I know I should not judge them, but as a > >> Language>>newbie, this is my very feeling, just like a kid first > >> Language>>looking at this world! Simple, but confused. At last, I am > >> Language>>not lead to a holy war between programming languages, I > >> Language>>just confused and want some related answers. This is it. : ) > >> > >> - by > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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