From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 4 20:47:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F040516A4CE; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 20:47:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.BAYAREA.NET [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D9B43D73; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 20:47:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.250]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i74KlOue005079; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 13:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i74KlOHZ009908; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 13:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i74KlOB2009907; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 13:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 13:47:24 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: John-Mark Gurney Message-ID: <20040804204724.GB9720@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <200408041803.i74I3hW3032824@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040804200237.GA9720@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> <20040804201627.GA991@funkthat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040804201627.GA991@funkthat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/tools/debugscripts README kgdb kld_deb.py X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:47:25 -0000 On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 01:16:27PM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Marcel Moolenaar wrote this message on Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 13:02 -0700: > > > add a set of scripts that I posted to -current last year. This makes > > [...] > > > They are mostly useless with gdb6, because support is already (partially) > > in kgdb(1) and what is not there yet is already planned. I don't mind > > that you commit these scripts, but the last sentence is crucial: it > > means that there's more unfinished stuff in the repository that needs > > attention to complete and thereby distracting attention away from where > > it's really needed. Your time would also be spent in a more focussed and > > constructive way if you would have add some of the features to kgdb(1). > > Umm.. I did all the work a year ago... I didn't "waste" my time as > you seem to imply since it only took three minutes or so to commit them.. But why commit in the first place? The scripts are old and as you say haven't been used with the current state of the world. Don't you think it behooves committers to make sure their commits are appropriate and in line with current affairs? What exactly did you think was the benefit to the project to commit these scripts now instead of when they were more applicable: a year ago? > > If you want to help out, make sure you help doing things that need to > > be done. > > Make sure you don't discourage people from working to improve FreeBSD. I don't think you improved FreeBSD with this commit. Au contraire... -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net