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Date:      Thu, 13 Jun 2002 21:11:31 -0400
From:      "Tommie \"TJ\" Fitzgerald, Jr." <mercury12@myrealbox.com>
To:        <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Who is this Charlie guy in /etc/passwd?
Message-ID:  <000201c21344$58776a00$0201a8c0@tjsbox>
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I never knew smileys could cause such controversy!  (aside) I wonder what
would happen if they knew my PC likes to dress up as a Mac and hang out on
the corner at night.....

yes, that was a joke

Tommie F

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Lambert" <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To: "Rahul Siddharthan" <rsidd@online.fr>
Cc: "Brett Glass" <brett@lariat.org>; "Ryan Thompson" <ryan@sasknow.com>;
<freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Who is this Charlie guy in /etc/passwd?


> Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > Brett Glass wrote:
> > > Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > > > Brett Glass wrote:
> > > > > Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > > > > > Brett Glass wrote:
> > > > > > > Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > > > > > > > Brett Glass wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Brett Glass wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Brett Glass wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brett Glass wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brett Glass wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
> > You forget that written language existed for millennia before smileys
> > became widespread.  Also, irony isn't the same thing as humour.  I
> > think a smiley is particularly inappropriate for true irony or
> > sarcasm, which is often meant to be cutting or insulting.  If it
> > wasn't meant to be cutting, the writer should make sure it doesn't
> > read that way in the first place, rather than tack on a smiley as an
> > afterthought...
>
> I tend to use smileys so that non-English speakers do not become
> unnecessarily offended when humor was intended, but the subtlety
> of the humor will not translate well, or even for native English
> speakers, when the humor is above average complexity, e.g. as in
> a triple or quadruple entendre, or when something like the right
> justification of the written text is meant to convey some covert
> message to the clever reader.
>
> 8-).
>
> -- Terry
>
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