Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 10:11:47 +0930 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com> Cc: brian@awfulhak.org, doconnor@Ist.flinders.edu.au, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Divert sockets.. Message-ID: <19970908101147.19775@lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <199709080020.RAA13169@usr08.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 12:20:58AM %2B0000 References: <19970908091046.29405@lemis.com> <199709080020.RAA13169@usr08.primenet.com>
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On Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 12:20:58AM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: >>> Sure. I just don't know what packets are triggering it. There's >>> almost nothing running at all (literally; no routed, named, >>> whatever). >> >> Who says it has to be at your end? > > It may not be. I have to run in debug mode first. Maybe later tonight > or tommorrow. Kinda stupid for an ISP to do that, though, and I > doubt PrimeNet is that stupid. I've seen plenty of stupid ISPs, though I don't know PrimeNet. But you don't need to run ppp in debug mode; you can run tcpdump on a tun interface. >>> And there's the annoying localhost DNS lookup, even though host.conf >>> has "hosts" first, and the name of the machine I'm rlogin'ing into >>> is in /etc/hosts (it's myself). It triggers the PPP dial anyway, >>> and I think that should only happen for non-local hosts. >> >> Well, why aren't you running named? It's faster than looking up >> /etc/hosts. And if you don't tell the world it's there, it's not >> going to get any external traffic. > > I will run named, once I get my HP345 stable enough that I want it > up most of the time. Until then, just having a hosts file that > I FTP around is enough. It's really a lot easier with a name daemon. Set cahcing only, and you'll have the added benefit of much reduced lookup time to the outside world. >>>> The thing I don't understand is how re-writing anything is going to >>>> solve a problem where people want the link to shutdown subliminally :-) >>> >>> Change the ground rules on the shutdown, for one... different issues >>> for SLIP/ISDN, for another. >> >> Why? > > Because of the shorter connect time, you can have a shorter idle time > for ISDN, for one. OK, that's reasonable. Anyway, you can specify the idle time per destination, which implies an interface as well. > A number of ISP's in the Seattle area will actually call *you* when > there are packets for you, Good for them! Publish their names, praise them openly. > so you are truly capable of running a server (mail, www, etc.). Right. > For SLIP, it depends. Some people actually still have NetBlazer's. I thought SLIP had emigrated to Russia. Greg
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