From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 31 11:18:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F168E16A4CE for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:18:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av6-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av6-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D1343D5E for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:18:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av6-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id E38FC37E4B; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:18:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp2-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.177]) by av6-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D047437E4A for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:18:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp2-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 838E137E49 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:18:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 74539 invoked by uid 1001); 31 Aug 2004 11:18:40 -0000 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:18:40 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Message-ID: <20040831111840.GA74510@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= , Maxim Sobolev , current@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org References: <4133683A.3090201@portaone.com> <4134530C.6020309@portaone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Maxim Sobolev cc: current@freebsd.org cc: sos@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burncd(8) usability: why `-s max' isn't default? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:18:44 -0000 On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 12:50:31PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Maxim Sobolev writes: > > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > > > Maxim Sobolev writes: > > > > I wonder if there are any compelling reasons why `-s max' is not > > > > default behaviour of burncd(8). IMHO, there is no point to have > > > > default of 4. Usually, today's drives are smart enough to select the > > > > maximum speed supported both by drive and by the medium. > > > Plenty of drives aren't, especially with cheap media. > > Do you have any evidence? >=20 > Yes. My laptop's DVD/CD-RW drive (Hitachi something-or-other) turns > out coasters if I try to use -s max with no-brand CD-R media. >=20 > > You will have big problems finding any CD-R media (even very > > cheap one) with rating < 32 on the market today, so that chances to > > "overspeed" the media with those ancient burners are quite theoretical. >=20 > What planet do you live on? Back here on Earth, the most widely > available CD-R media is 16x or 24x, and prices rise steeply once you > cross that boundary. For CD-RW media, that boundary is even lower (8x > or 12x). He probably lives on the same planet as I, while you seem to live on some alternate Earth. =20 Around here the most widely available CD-R media is labelled as 48x, and you do have to look around a bit to find slower media (and CD-R media slower than 24x is almost impossible to find), and the slower media is usually not noticably cheaper anyway.=20 For CD-RW media it is true that most widely available media seem to be in the 4x-10x range, but again the faster ones (labelled as 24x or 32x) tends to be only slightly more expensive than the slower ones. --=20 Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se