Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 19:00:21 +0000 From: "Sergey A. Osokin" <osa@FreeBSD.org> To: Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> Cc: Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>, v@fatpipi.com, Jochen Neumeister <joneum@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r458000 - head/www/nginx Message-ID: <20180109190021.GC9882@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <5ACC5441-B3B1-41CB-8E95-5D430BDF84E1@adamw.org> References: <201801031933.w03JXLGa033758@repo.freebsd.org> <CAB_qb6_q=ZQdu5Mc3ynSDXycFZdzBy62wf20iZuBcXR2rMr1wQ@mail.gmail.com> <a521343e-219a-340e-5e21-e65277ca8ede@FreeBSD.org> <20180106134130.GA39725@FreeBSD.org> <DFEBB38E-4DB0-4190-B078-B94C2F442EA5@adamw.org> <20180106182537.GA78102@FreeBSD.org> <20180109123546.GA9882@FreeBSD.org> <825D5BD5-38D0-4F96-AEEE-2FA483F9D2BC@adamw.org> <20180109183323.GB9882@FreeBSD.org> <5ACC5441-B3B1-41CB-8E95-5D430BDF84E1@adamw.org>
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On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 11:49:11AM -0700, Adam Weinberger wrote: > > On 9 Jan, 2018, at 11:33, Sergey A. Osokin <osa@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 11:03:35AM -0700, Adam Weinberger wrote: > >>> On 9 Jan, 2018, at 5:35, Sergey A. Osokin <osa@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> is there any update? > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >> > >> Hi Sergey, > >> > >> Sorry, but I can't give you a good answer on why the change was or wasn't > >> discussed, and why people were or weren't notified about it in advance. It > >> was policy long before it was written into the PHB, and that occurred in > >> r43772, 3 years 11 months ago. > >> > >> At the end of the day, it's simply the only mechanism we have to ensure > >> that users' installations match what we have in the repo. Past that I'm > >> not > >> really sure how to give you a satisfactory answer your question. If the > >> policy were enacted a few months ago, I could provide insight, but we're > >> talking about something that's been policy for 5+ years. > > > > Adam, > > > > thanks for the update. > > > > Since this new policy never been discussed, we had no public plans to > > enact this policy in our roadmap, the developers have never been notified > > about this major change, I'd recommend to postpone it and start new > > discussion. > > Personally I don't see big value of it, also I think this new policy > > potentially can bring more harmful than positive effects for the project. > > Come on, Sergey. We cannot postpone something that's been active policy for > OVER FIVE YEARS. So we didn't here about that for so long period of time? :-) Could please explain this. > Users need to rebuild a port when it changes. It doesn't matter which set > of options they're using, they must rebuild it. If you'd like to have a > discussion about changing the policy, then that's great and we should have > that discussion. But in the meantime, you MUST follow the policy. Fortunately I'm not on a position to follow an dictate like this, so I'm going to avoid to use this policy as I did for all of those years. -- Sergey Osokin
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