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Date:      Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:17:36 -0700
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
Cc:        Matt Wilbur <matt@efs.org>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Cheezy "SysAdmin" magazine article
Message-ID:  <3B29D2B0.7B48A2BF@mindspring.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0106140956430.63728-100000@sargon.photon.com> <3B29C722.5979824B@mindspring.com> <20010615104753.A61673@lpt.ens.fr>

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Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> 
> Terry Lambert said on Jun 15, 2001 at 01:28:18:
> > 15)   Creation and deletion of large numbers of files in a
> >       single directory is rather meaningless; witness the
> >       moronic 'postmark' "benchmark", and the resulting
> >       discussion on several FreeBSD lists.  The "benchmark"
> >       was clearly designed to put forth a political agenda
> >       (in the context of the list discussion, this agenda
> >       was the pro-ReiserFS position, despite Reiser's use
> >       of several USL/Novell patents on Delayed Ordered
> >       Writes, without the permission of the patent holders,
> >       which render a pro-ResierFS argument as meaningless
> >       as arguing about the number of angels which can dance
> >       on the head of a pin).
> 
> There was a thread on patented algorithms in FreeBSD on -hackers
> some days ago.  For Jordan's opinion on that, see
> 
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=346010+0+current/freebsd-hackers

Jordan is wrong.

AT&T/USL has been known to sue before.  USL has defended
these particular patents successfully twice already.

The "patented algorithm" thread in FreeBSD is based on an
indefensible patent: prior art dating to 1990 was demostrated,
making the patent invalid, if challenged in court.


Jordan is also wrong about the number of patent infringements
in FreeBSD.  According to a six month due-dilligence by IBM,
there are no infringements in the FreeBSD kernel, and the
FreeBSD user space is (relatively) clean as well.  This did
not include IBM patents, however, since they were unconcerned
about licensing them from themselves, so there may be some
lurking there.

-- Terry

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